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From YouTube: BOE Special Session: Transportation, October 11, 2021
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A
A
Welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
board
of
education.
This
meeting,
this
special
meeting
is
being
televised,
live
on
aacps
tv
and
streamed
on
aacps's
youtube,
channel
general
information
and
protocols
for
the
meeting
are
posted
on
the
sign
by
the
doorway
as
you
enter
the
room.
So
please
make
sure
you
read
those
if
you
have
not
already
and
now
for
the
invocation.
A
A
Okay,
the
agenda
has
been
adopted
and
now
for
public
comment,
as
ms
schalheim
goes
back
to
to
begin
the
virtual
portion
of
our
public
comment.
I
will
remind
everyone
here
that
speakers
will
be
allotted
two
minutes
each
and
may
not
allocate
their
time
to
others.
Ms
howe
will
in
or
the
buzzer
will
indicate
when
your
time
has
expired.
A
The
board
asks
the
comments
remain
civil
and
appropriate
for
various
audiences
that
may
be
watching
or
viewing
students.
Specific
and
personal
matters
are
confidential
and
cannot
be
discussed
in
this
forum.
It
is
not
the
board's
general
practice
to
engage
in
question
and
answer
session
with
speakers
for
the
record.
Please
give
your
name
before
speaking
and
any
handouts
should
be
given
to
the
board
assistant.
D
Good
evening,
everyone
I'm
going
to
read
this
one
more
time,
just
in
case
online
in
the
stream.
Speakers
will
be
a
lot
of
the
two
minutes
each
you
may
not
allocate
your
time
to
others,
as
hell
will
indicate
when
your
time
has
expired.
The
board
asks
that
comments
remain
civil
and
appropriate
for
the
various
audiences
that
may
be
watching
or
viewing
this
meeting
and
must
only
address
the
topic
on
which
they
were
signed
up
to
speak
student,
specific
and
personnel
matters
are
confidential
and
cannot
be
discussed
in
this
form.
D
E
E
I
know
this
is
an
urgent
response
to
an
urgent
situation
and
we
are
grateful.
We
do
have
three
specific
concerns
about
dr
alana's
plan
number
one
with
the
very
same
end
goal
of
giving
every
driver
a
five
dollar
an
hour
raised,
which
we
fully
support.
We
ask
that
it
be
done
to
a
percentage
increase
or
a
driver
pay
category
of
our
contracts.
E
This
is
how
you
structure
the
one
percent
increase
you
gave
drivers
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
it
was
a
better
way
to
implement
a
flat.
Five
dollar
raise
would
cost
contractors
more
than
that
to
implement
by
increasing
our
workman's
comp
insurance
and
federal
and
social
security,
since
they
are
all
based
on
our
payroll.
We
are
by
no
means
seeking
to
make
any
more
money
here.
E
We
are
just
seeking
to
cover
our
costs
the
same
as
we
do
currently
number
two
pay
increases
will
also
affect
any
additional
school
sponsor
activities
outside
of
regular
routes,
which
we
must
consider,
since
most
of
them
have
already
been
booked
and
priced
for
the
school
year
number
three.
By
making
this
a
supplemental
budget,
what
happens
when
the
federal
dollars
run
out?
E
F
Hello,
my
name
is
kurt
svenson.
I
live
in
arnold
maryland,
despite
the
superintendent's
assertions
to
the
contrary.
The
school
bus
transportation
problem
is
most
definitely
the
responsibility
of
the
anne
arundel
county,
public
schools
and
a
situation
of
their
own
making
the
school
system's
own
january.
8,
2020,
school
bus
transportation,
consultant
report
reveals
this
fact.
Specific
quotations
pulled
from
that
report
are
provided
in
my
written
testimony,
all
of
which
support
one
of
the
consultants.
F
F
What's
the
status
of
this
reports
many
recommendations,
rather
than
just
throw
money
at
the
problem?
Why
not
actually
use
the
transportation
system
that
was
purchased
back
in
2015
to
design
a
smaller
number
of
more
efficient
bus
routes
that
are
based
on
policy
guidance
and
design
build
criteria
such
as
walking
distance
to
stops?
F
F
F
D
G
G
I
would
like
to
highlight
that
a
salary
increase
could
lead
to
increased
availability
of
bus
drivers,
but
that
we
should
not
expect
the
service
to
resume
back
to
normal
directly
after
this
measure,
the
shortage
of
drivers
is
a
global
challenge,
not
just
for
school
bus
operators.
Public
transit
agencies
across
the
world
are
dealing
with
similar
issues.
G
This
is
why
I
would
like
to
stress
the
importance
of
building
a
resilient
network.
This
can
be
done
in
several
ways
where
I
would
like
to
highlight
three
opportunities
for
the
county
to
evaluate
these
in
the
next
future
near
future.
The
first
one
is
that
the
approved
move.
Anne
arundel
plan
recommends
an
emphasis
on
safe
biking
and
walking
for
the
county
in
general,
as
also
for
school
children.
G
It
recommends
that
aacps
create
and
staff
a
full-time
position
for
a
safe,
walk
bike,
school
position
to
measure
and
increase
the
number
of
safe
routes
and
the
number
of
children
walking
and
biking
to
school.
This
is
the
most
effective
and
least
cost
way
to
alleviate
the
school
bus
issues,
traffic,
environmental
protection
and
most
important
student
health.
Also,
the
county
office
of
transportation
has
secured
a
safe
routes
to
school
grant
and
aacps
must
assign
a
point
person
to
work
with
oot
on
this
initiative
that
includes
both
safe
routes
and
bike
safety
programs.
G
G
This
means
that
there's
no
or
little
availability
for
people
with
special
needs
to
get
to
their
destination,
but
on
top
of
that,
there
is
no
resilience
in
this
system
to
provide
assistance
in
case
of
emergencies.
Like
we
see
today
at
the
anne
arundel
county
public
schools,
a
budget
increase
similar
to
the
currently
proposed
school
bus
increase
would
triple
the
available
public
transportation
services
in
the
county,
benefiting
not
only
those
in
need,
but
also
our
school
children.
G
That
brings
me
to
the
last
suggestion.
Many
cities
and
counties
across
the
nation
provide
alternative
options
for
middle
schoolers
and
high
schoolers
to
travel
to
and
from
school.
This
can
be
in
the
form
of
bike
and
pedestrian
access,
as
earlier
mentioned,
but
can
also
be
in
the
form
of
general
public
transportation
options,
as
also
previously
mentioned.
These
alternatives
will
reduce
the
need
for
costly
transportation
services
in
the
future
and
create
more
resiliency
across
the
county.
It
will
also
stimulate
healthier,
behavior,
reduced
emissions
and
reduced
congestion
in
the
county.
G
H
Good
evening,
dr
arlato
and
members
of
the
board,
I'm
julia
walls,
parent
of
aacps
student.
First,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
your
work
towards
resolving
the
transportation
issues
here
in
anne
arundel
county,
despite
our
county
executives.
Obnoxious
attempts
to
make
this
appear
as
though
he
is
responsible
for
these
negotiations.
I
know
that
you
started
working
on
this
before,
and
the
annapolis
drivers
went
on
strike
and
long
before
stewart
pittman
jumped
at
the
opportunity
to
take
credit.
I
am
excited
to
see
some
hopeful
solutions.
However,
with
that
excitement,
I
also
have
some
concerns.
H
If
we
are
going
to
throw
close
to
10
million
dollars
at
this
problem,
we
should
be
damn
sure
that
it
not
only
solves
it,
but
that
we
also
don't
find
ourselves
in
a
similar
situation
down
the
road.
As
I
read
through
the
press
release
a
few
things
come
to
mind
why
five
dollars,
where
is
it
going?
Can
we
be
sure
that
this
money
makes
it
into
the
hands
of
drivers
and
attendants,
and
not
just
extra
profit
for
contractors?
H
Will
drivers
in
attendance
actually
be
working
a
full
eight
hour
day?
Are
there
any
other
positions
within
aacps
that
drivers
and
attendance
could
be
utilized
to
earn
this?
This
income,
whether
it
be
within
nutritional
services,
substituting
custodial
work,
school
operation
teams
or
possibly
assisting
with
the
continuity
of
learning
during
these
excessive
quarantines?
H
Three,
while
signing
and
retention
bonuses
sound
great
to
attract
more
drivers?
What
about
all
the
other
people
who
showed
up
each
and
every
day
throughout
this
pandemic?
Those
who
showed
up
to
feed
our
children
address
ventilation
in
our
buildings,
clean
between
cohorts
and
completely
reinvent
education?
Can
they
also
expect
to
receive
receive
incentives?
H
Four,
my
biggest
concern
is
that
with
rewarding
those
who
decided
to
capitalize
on
this
shortage,
I
have
two
issues
with
this
one.
The
drivers
that
intentionally
stranded
kids
at
bus
stops
did
not
act
within
the
best
interest
of
aacps
students
that
was
reckless
and
endangered.
Many
children,
including
the
child,
who
was
almost
abducted,
trying
to
access
a
city,
bus
for
transportation,
two
allowing
those
drivers
to
keep
their
jobs
and
rewarding
them
opens
too
many
doors
for
others
to
use
our
kids
as
pawns
for
their
own
personal
gain.
This
may
be
a
quick
fix
for
this.
H
A
A
Okay,
that
concludes
our
public
comment,
and
so
now
we
are
moving
on
to
the
main
item
on
the
agenda.
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
the
agenda
in
front
of
me,
but
thank
you.
It
is.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
ordered
it
right.
The
fiscal
year,
22
recurring
supplemental
operating
budget
request
and
before
I
turn
this
over
to
dr
alato.
I
would
like
to
welcome
and
thank
our
county
executive,
stuart
pittman
for
attending
this
evening
and
dr
alato
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
I
A
A
So,
dr
lotto,
I
mean
you
have
released
this
plan.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
explain
about
it,
or
would
you
like
me
to
start
with
the
county
executive.
I
I
think
you
should
start
with
county
executive.
You
you
have
a
document
in
front
of
you
showing
the
unrestricted
budget
when
it's
appropriate.
Mr
czech
novice
will
come
forward
and
present,
so
you
have
a
better
understanding
of
where
those
numbers
are
coming
from
and
then
we're
glad
to
take
questions.
Okay,.
A
J
All
right:
well,
thank
you.
You
know
you
get
what
you
asked
for,
and
we
asked
for
a
proposal.
We
got
a
proposal
and
I
was
pleased
to
see
it.
The
the
county
council
will
have
a
lot
of
questions.
I
know
that
our
our
budget
analysts
will
are
eager
to
to
look
at
this
and
crunch
some
numbers
and
and
figure
out.
You
know
how
to
how
to
pay
for
this,
whether
it's
the
right
number,
whether
or
not
we
can
or
should
be
using
our
money
for
the
retention
and
hiring
bonuses.
J
Obviously,
when
we
talk
about
a
large
recurring
budget
item,
that's
that's
got
nothing
to
do
with
federal
money
and
that's
that's
on
the
taxpayers
of
anne
arundel
county
and
to
do
this
requires
us
to
make
some
tough
decisions.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
before
we.
We
prepare
our
county
council
for
this.
Assuming
that
you,
you
move
forward
with
it,
and
I
was
glad
to
hear
mr
job.
I
think
his
name
was
one
of
the
contractors
talking
about
it.
J
J
And
you
know
my
assessment
was
that
we
we
needed
to
do
something
and
do
something
quickly,
so
that
drivers
would
get
us
a
feeling
that
we
will
act,
that
we,
the
the
future,
will
look
better
so
that
we
can
hang
on
to
the
ones
we
have
and
get
going
recruiting.
None
of
us
know
how
quickly
these
companies
can
fill
their
vacant
positions
and
that's
the
big
question
we
don't.
J
J
People
are
raising
raising
pay,
especially
for
workers
at
the
low
end
of
the
wage
scale,
and
these
folks
are
are
we're,
told,
averaging,
take
home
averaging
about
25
000
a
year,
and
and
so
they
are
at
the
low
end
of
the
wage
scale,
so
they're
they're
responsible
for
getting
our
kids
to
school
and
from
school,
and
I
think
all
of
us
in
this
room
you
know
we're
one
team.
We
deal
with
the
same
source
of
money,
which
is
the
taxpayers.
J
We
get
some
federal,
we
get
some
state,
but
we
basically
have
to
to
make
wise
decisions
and
and
get
our
kids
to
school
so
that
they
can
can
learn.
So
thank
you
for
everything
you
do
and
thank
you
for
this
proposal.
A
And
if
you
don't
mind,
county
executive
I'll
go
around
as
often
you
members
from
your
team
come
here
to
the
board
and
it
gives
us
an
unusual
opportunity
to
be
able
to
interact
and
ask
questions.
So
if
that's
good
with
you,
I
assume
that's
why
you
brought
mr
trumbauer
with
you.
M
M
We
know
that,
obviously
we're
not
functioning
well
in
the
market
right
now.
As
you
said,
this
is
a
market-driven
economy,
but
that
doesn't
just
go
for
bus
drivers,
unfortunately,
and
so
to
be
blunt,
we've
been
playing
whack-a-mole
in
our
budget
for
the
last
few
years.
You
know
we
there's
a
crisis
point
and
we've
in
some
cases,
robbed
peter
to
pay
paul
to
increase,
and
there
is
concern,
I
think,
not
about
the
bus
drivers
receiving
additional
money.
M
I
think
most
people
are
understand
why
that
should
be
and
what's
important
about
it,
but
that
we
have
other
groups
who
have
you
know
who
are
going
to
be
looking
at
that
and
asking
why
they're
not
on
that
list
and,
as
you
said,
we're
a
team
and
we
deal
ultimately
with
the
same
funding
source
and
so
what?
What
are
your
thoughts
around?
That
I
mean
that's
a
it's
a.
M
J
It's
true:
if
we
do
this,
it
makes
it
harder
for
us
to
do
this.
For
others,
you
know,
there's
a
limited
amount
of
money,
and
so
it's
that's.
What
makes
it
a
hard
decision,
and
but
we
are
doing
this
in
my
view,
because
we
have
to
get
kids
to
school
and
home
and
and
that's
that's
just
a
necessity,
I
don't
believe
we're
rewarding
bad
behavior.
J
Yes,
there
was
one
company
that
that
struck
for
two
days
and
and
I,
but
I
think
we
would
have
been
in
this
place,
regardless
of
whether
they
had
because
we
have
all
these
these
vacancies
and
routes
that
are
not
operating.
So
this
did
not
start
with
the
strike
and-
and
that's
not
what
brought
us
here.
A
D
Shalham
good
evening,
thank
you
for
being
here,
so
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
that
you're
not
sure
if
we
can
do
all
three
items,
but
when
I,
when
I
hear
what's
been
said
over
the
last,
certainly
over
the
last
week
and
what
we
know
that
we
need,
how
are
you
going
to?
How
are
you
going
to
be
all
in
and
then
not
be
all
all
in
if
that
makes
sense,
and
as
a
sidebar
to
that
we
have
american
rescue
plan
money
right.
J
J
The
I
guess
the
question
is:
what's
the
right
number
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
do-
if
we
do
a
five
dollar
an
hour
increase,
which
is
a
pretty
significant
increase?
Do
we
then
is
that
a
retention
bonus?
Does
that
serve
that
purpose?
I
don't
know
it's
a
it's
a
worthwhile
question
to
ask
so
so
or
do
we
do
more
in
retention,
bonus
and
less
an
hourly,
or
can
we
do
the
whole
thing
I
mean
really.
This
is
a
conversation
that
the
whole
county
council
has
to
have.
J
Our
budget
analysts
have
to
take
a
look
at
it.
We
have
to
see
if
that
7.5
or
7.4
million
is,
is
the
right
number
if
there's
a
if,
if
we're
you
know,
we
started
with
looking
at
at
bus
drivers
and
cdl
licenses,
and
now
we're
talking
about
aids
as
well
and-
and
I
don't
know
the
situation
with
the
ones
that
work
for
aacps
versus
the
contractors
and-
and
you
know
how
wide
do
we
spread
the
net.
Those
all
impacted
the
the
total
number.
J
C
Thank
you,
president
ellis.
You
mentioned
that
we
have
120
million
dollars,
I'm
not
sure
we
do
have
120
million
dollars.
If
we're
talking
about
the
esser
funds,
those
funds
have
not
been
we've
applied
for
the
grants,
but
we
have
not
received
those
funds
and
I
just
need
it.
The
public
needs
to
know
that
we're
not
sitting
on
108
or
120
million
dollars.
C
C
For
instance,
I'd
suggest
that
the
cost
of
housing,
whether
owned
or
rented,
is
in
my
mind
kind
of
out
of
control.
It
costs
someone
1200
1500,
2,
000
and
wages
have
not
kept
up
with
that.
So
and
many
of
our
employees
are
working.
You
talked
about
25
000
and
I
happen
to
be
one,
and
I
know
everyone
in
this
room.
We
all
value
all
of
our
employees.
Every
single
one
of
them
for
their
dedication
and
most
of
our
employees
in
spite
of
their
financial
woes,
they
stay
with
us
and
they
continue
to
help
our
children.
C
C
At
the
same
time,
I
would
like
to
thank
you
and
mr
trumbauer
and
all
of
our
county
council
for
you.
Over
the
past
few
years.
You
have
shown
that
you're
willing
to
make
some
tough
decisions
to
make
sure
that
we
do
get
monies,
but
I'm
here
to
tell
you
we
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
and
the
only
way
our
kids
are
going
to
benefit
is
if
we
continue
to
build
relationships
with
one
another
collaborate
with
one
another,
so
that
we
can
help
fix
this
together.
So
thank
you
for
being
here.
J
Yeah,
I
I
agree
with
everything
that
you've
said.
I
mean
we
are
like.
I
said
earlier,
one
team
with
one
source
of
money
and
and
it's
it's
just
absolutely
essential
that
that
we
address
the
kids
in
the
school
and
their
families.
I
mean.
I
I
think
you
probably
heard
me
talk
about
the
kindergarten
readiness
issue.
When
I
was
talking.
J
We
were
talking
about
the
opportunity
gap,
commission
launching-
and
you
know,
we're
at
47
and
it's
a
much
higher
higher
because
55
for
white,
kids
and
and
down
in
the
30s
for
black
and
hispanic,
kids
and
and
that
has
to
do
with
families
and
and
how
they
are
doing
before
their
kids
come
to
school
and
trauma
and
all
those
things,
particularly
as
you
said,
affordable
housing.
And
so
when
we
look
at
our
arpa
funds,
we're
we're
considering
a
lot
of
proposals
for
housing.
J
Even
100
million
dollars
is
a
drop
in
the
bucket
in
the
housing
market,
but
we
have
hard
work
to
do
there
to
improve
the
lives
of
the
families
and
the
kids
so
that
when
they
come
to
school,
they're
ready-
and
I
mean
there's
no
question
in
my
mind-
that
all
of
us
share
the
same
values,
whether
it's
you
know
and
and
that
we're
basically
we're
one
team.
So.
B
Thank
you,
petty
executive
fitment.
You
stated
in.
G
B
I
asked
in
advance
of
this
meeting
if
any
county
executive
had
ever
interfered
in
the
board's
negotiation
process
and
in
recent
memory
that
was
a
no
while.
I
know
that
the
arpa
funds
are
at
your
discretion.
The
7.4
million,
as
a
recurring
budget
request,
would
have
to
be
approved
by
the
county
council
and
in
your
letter
you
seemed
very
confident
in
your
comments
that
this
would
be
approved.
B
J
Right
so
so
doing
that
may
or
may
not
mean
approving
100
of
the
supplemental
request
and
and
doing
that
may
not
happen
in
one
year.
So
I'm
speaking
for
myself
when
I
say
that
we
stand
ready
to
step
up,
nobody
else
is
going
to
step
up
because
the
budget
for
this
we
do
69
million
in
transportation
now
from
the
county
and
we're
talking
about
raising
it,
another
seven
plus
and-
and
so
it
is
I
and
the
county
council.
But
I
was
speaking
for
myself
there
when
I
said
that
we
stand
ready.
J
With
the
funding
that
the
contractors
have
said
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
fulfill
the
terms
of
their
contracts,
money,
and
so
so
in
terms
of
interference
with
with
all
of
this,
it's
it's
what
budgets
it's!
What
the
budget
process
requires
is
that
we
have
these
conversations
about
where
the
money
goes
and
how
much
money
is
needed.
A
B
N
Thank
you,
president
ellis,
thank
you
county,
executive,
pittman
and
mr
trumbauer,
so
I
guess
I'm
coming
in.
Admittedly,
a
little
gun
shy,
so
to
speak
as
it
relates
to
some
of
the
funding
commitments
so,
but
not
to
I'm
not
reiterating
what
miss
frank
said.
I
just
you
know
when
we
negotiated
with
some
of
our
our
contracts
with
some
of
our
employee
units.
N
In
most
recent,
as
the
last
budget
approval,
there
was
a
commitment
on
our
end,
an
agreement
and
conversations
of
support.
Yet
when
the
budget
was
adopted,
we
had
to
do
what
got
us
in
this
position.
In
the
first
place,
we
had
to
reassign
money
that
one
priority
was
counting
on
in
order
to
fulfill
that
contractual
obligation,
and
it
was
built
on
that
collaboration.
N
So
I
guess
my
question
is
in
in
this
particular
instance
and
moving
forward.
Is
there
anything
that
should
be
done
getting
done
different
in
order
to
build
that
trust
that
significantly
eroded
come
july?
1
in
the
budget,
you
know
ownership
when
we
were
shy,
the
mid-step
or
the
mid.
N
The
midterm
raises
for
some
of
our
employee
units
that
we
had
requested
and
already
had
negotiated
from
the
previous
year,
so
we
are
now
obliged.
Likewise,
when
we
renegotiate
these
contracts,
even
in
amidst
the
council
approval,
there
is
going
to
be
an
ownership
for
recurrence,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
just
maybe
discuss
about
how
what
we
could
be
doing
differently
together
to
get
us
to
a
place
of
a
little
bit
more
confidence
and
assurance.
N
N
J
N
Referring
more
to
the
relationship-
and
I
just
say
that,
because
I
know
we've
been
working
with
you,
guys
left
and
right
every
single
day,
all
hands
on
deck
and
some
incredible
people
on
both
sides
who
are
not
in
this
room
right
now.
That
probably
deserve
more
credit
than
either
you
or
I
do,
and
making
some
of
the
these
things
materialize
in
such
a
good
positive
way,
not
just
with
this,
but
with
others.
N
However,
the
council
has
not
been
part
of
the
table
and
I
I
gotta
say
I'm
planning
on
moving
forward
with
this,
but
I'm
wondering
what
we
should
be
doing
different
in
regards
to
or
could
be
doing,
different
regards
to
working
with
you
and
also
working
with
our
council
to
to
get
a
better
foundation
in
some
of
these
challenges
that
we
encounter
from
time
to
time.
I'm.
J
Going
to
let
chris
talk
about
the
conversations
that
happen
at
budget
time
between
our
team
and
your
team,
because
I
think
that
it's
very
constructive
in
terms
of
the
board
talking
to
the
county
council,
to
try
to
get
the
county
council
to
contribute
more
toward
the
budget.
I
think
that's
good,
old-fashioned
lobbying
and
you're
all
free
to
do
it
and-
and
I
think
you
do
but
but
they
have
priorities
that
they
have
to
balance.
So
that's
that's
the
way
our
democracy
works.
But
if,
if
you
want
to
talk
to
the
process,
staff-wise.
K
Well
sure,
and
thank
you
miss
crocodile
chris
trump,
our
budget
officer,
leading
up
to
the
introduction
of
the
proposed
budget.
Of
course
we
speak
to
mr
shaknovich
and
mr
sansky.
K
The
whole
budget
team
does
and
we've
had.
I
would
I
would
characterize
it
as
an
extraordinarily
collaborative
relationship
and
as
the
county
exec
said,
and
I
think
the
the
board
knows
you
guys
propose
what
you
think
is
is
needed
for
the
best
possible
school
system,
it's
our
job,
to
balance,
what
resources
we
have
and
mix
and
match
and
prioritize,
and
we
do
that
on
a
day-to-day
basis
using
mr
shaknovich
and
his
team
as
as
point
people.
K
Our
presumption
is
that
they're
in
touch
with
the
superintendent
and
and
the
board,
much
as
I'm
in
touch
with
the
county,
exec
and
members
of
the
council
and
that
that
process
over
the
last
three
years.
Again,
I
think
has
has
been
extraordinary,
and
I
say
that
as
someone
who
was
a
legislator
on
the
county
council
for
eight
years
and
saw
it
when
the
relationship
maybe
wasn't
as
good
as
it
is
now,
so
I'm
very
appreciative
of
that.
K
Having
seen
both
sides
of
it,
I'm
not
I'm
not
entirely
sure
what
you
are
referencing
in
in
the
comments
about
what
happened
after
july
1st,
so
I
I
may
be
a
little
slow
on
the
uptake
on
a
monday
evening.
I.
N
Is
there
been
engagement
in
these
moments
where,
where,
when
we
get
in
front
of
them
that
there's
going
to
be
an
understand,
you
know
that
you
guys
are
sharing
adequate
enough
information,
because
I
know
that's
challenging
between
the
legislative
and
executive
branch
and
that's
why
I'm
asking
because
I
I
think
for
our
public
and
our
families
they're
not
seeing
that
engagement,
and
so
I
I'm
just
trying
to
provide
that
opportunity
for
you
guys
to
maybe
elaborate
so
yeah.
J
I
mean
this
has
moved
awfully
fast.
I
have
had
some
conversations
with
some
council
members.
They
won't
like
getting
a
seven
plus
million
dollar
budget
request:
supplemental
budget
request.
We
don't
like
it,
nobody
likes
it.
I
also
know
that
they
want
to
get
kids
to
school
and
they
want
these
these
these
companies
to
fulfill
their
contracts,
so
we
certainly
will
be
talking
to
them
and
and
they'll
be
tough
conversations,
but
I
think
the
relationships
are
good
there
as
well,
and-
and
I
I
you
know,
the
public
will
probably
be
talking
to
them
as
well.
A
A
We.
I
appreciate
what
you
said.
We
all
want
to
get
these
kids
to
school.
There
is
absolutely
no
doubt
we
all
have
the
same
goal
in
mind
and.
A
I'm
very
frustrated
with
where
we're
sitting
right
now,
I'm
going
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
really
wish
all
the
creative
solutions
that
we've
been
working
on
over
the
last
several
weeks
had
that
work
had
begun
sooner.
I
really
do.
I
think
we
would
have
been
in
a
better
place
than
we
are
right
now,
but.
A
A
Except
that's
when
you
reacted.
That's
when
you
jumped
on
social
media,
pinning
this
on
aucps,
this
nationwide
problem
and
demanding
a
plan,
and
this
this
is
a
business
decision.
This
dissolve.
This
requires
business
solutions.
A
You
stated
moments
ago,
your
your
team
will
now
take
this
plan
and
analyze
it
and
and
along
with
the
county
council,
determine
what
makes
sense,
and
my
understanding
is
that's
what
we
were
doing
together
or
at
least
aecps
and
and
your
team
were
doing,
and
now
we
have
numbers
out
there,
because
a
plan
was
called
for
and
so
now
there's
expectations
out
there
that
are
that
are
tied
to
tied
to
specific
numbers.
A
I
just
can't
help
but
wonder
if
a
better
outcome
would
have
been.
Maybe
a
joint
statement
between
you
and
dr
arlatto
and
this
board
just
sending
the
message
out.
There
look,
I
know
you're
waiting
for
for
a
plan
and
solutions,
and
I
promise
you
we
are
working
together
on
this
and
and
as
soon
as
we
have
it
worked
out
again
this
this
nationwide
problem.
This
is
not
unique
to
aacps
that
you
know
just
giving
that
message
out
there
together
jointly.
A
I
I
just
feel
would
not
have
put
us
in
a
place
where
now
we
have
a
again,
we
got
some
hard
numbers
out
there
and
and
everyone's
watching
now
to
see
what
this
board's
going
to
do
with
it
see
what
you're
going
to
do
it
see
what
the
county
council
is
going
to
do
with
it,
and
that
includes
our
food
service
workers
and
maintenance
staff
and
everyone
else
throughout
the
system.
J
Transparency
is
difficult.
Democracy
is
difficult.
You
know
my
view
is
that
it's
a
positive
thing
that
we
have
some
numbers
out
there
and
that
we
have
a
proposal
on
the
table
and
so
now
we're
we're
hearing
from
the
contractors
about
that
we'll
hear
from
drivers.
J
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
from
parents
we'll
hear
from
others
as
well
as
we'll
hear
from
other
folks
who
want
to
raise
and
and
it's
it's
uncomfortable,
but
I
think
it's
it's
where
we
have
to
be,
and
I
think
we
have
no
choice
but
to
work
together
and
we
will
work
together.
L
I
think
I'm
I'm
pretty
much
going
to
echo
what
everyone
has
said,
but
primarily
president
ellis,
as
you
said,
the
public
is
watching,
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
parents
who
have
the
right
to
be
upset,
whether
that's
the
contractors,
whether
that's
the
board,
whether
that's
the
county,
they
have
the
right
to
be
upset
that
their
child
can't
get
to
school,
and
since
the
public
is
watching,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
I
feel
like
it
puts
us
at
a
very,
very
large
and
significant
disadvantage.
L
If
our
relationship
board
and
county
is
seen
as
adversarial,
which
is
why
I
was
disappointed
in
some
of
the
things
I
saw
from
your
office
in
relation
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
solve
this
problem,
that,
to
be
quite
frank
with
you,
I'll
speak
as
the
student
on
the
board,
it
affects
me.
You
know
it
affects
me
when
buses
get
cancelled
when
students
have
to
rush
out,
because
their
bus
is
going
to
take
two
extra
routes.
L
What
have
you
and
so
all
I
can
say
I
guess
I
don't
particularly
have
a
question,
but
all
I
can
say
is
that
I
hope
in
the
future
this
collaborative
you
know
camaraderie
that
we
are
showcasing
right
now
is
given
in
the
space
of
the
benefit
of
the
doubt
that
we
don't
go
straight
to.
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
blaming,
but
go
straight
to
you
know.
L
Painting
one
side
is
negative
and
focusing
on
the
we're
teammates,
not
combatants
when
it
comes
to
this,
but
I
think
president
ellis
pretty
much
summed
it
up
perfectly.
I'm
glad
that
she
was
able
to
speak
before.
I
did
because
she
pretty
much
hit
the
nail
on
the
head,
but
that's
all
I
can
say
for
this
and
I'm
glad
that
we
are
reaching
at
least
I'll
say
we're
reaching
towards
a
resolution
that
gets
my
peers
students
back
in
school,
which
is
all
that
we
want.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
tonight.
K
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
to
reiterate
something
I
think
the
county
executive
was
trying
to
get
across
and
first
let
me
just
say
I
believe,
and
he
can
kick
me
under
the
table.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
mean
he's
here
in
support
of
your
action
today,
so
when
he
says
we
need
to
check
the
numbers.
What
we're
talking
about
is
the
process.
The
process
that's
set
up
is
you
all
will
take
your
action
today
that
will
get
then
given
over
to
the
county.
K
We
will
then
need
to
introduce
a
bill
to
the
county
council
at
that
point,
just
like
any
legislation,
the
budget
office
will
analyze
it.
The
county
auditor's
office
will
analyze
it
just
like
anything
else.
So
we're
not
attaching
a
specific
new
scrutiny
to
this
proposal.
What
we're
saying
is
we're
glad
that
you
took
action.
The
next
step
would
be.
K
We
will
get
the
request
to
introduce
legislation
that
will
go
through
our
normal
county
process
and
then,
as
the
county
executive
said,
constituents
will
weigh
in
others,
will
weigh
in
and
numbers
will
be
vetted
just
like
anything
else.
So
I
just
wanted
to
echo
what
I'm
hearing
from
from
several
of
you,
which
is
we're
we're
on
the
same
team.
I
know
the
county
executive
thinks
that
too.
A
I
O
Good
evening
for
director
alex
checkmate
chief
operating
officer,
it
is
in
reference
to
item
4.01,
that's
in
action
item
regarding
a
second
quarter
operating
budget,
supplemental
request
for
fiscal
year,
2022.
O
the
operating
budget
request.
As
you
see
an
exhibit
before
you
would
ask
for
a
mid-year
supplemental
operating
budget
allocation
towards
the
board
of
education.
It
would
be
a
figure
that
would
be
inside
of
the
confines
of
maintenance
of
effort,
because
there'll
be
conventional
operating
monies
on
a
recurring
basis
and
the
two
state
categories
that
would
be
affected
are
the
transportation
state
category
and
and
we'll
go
deeper
into
this
in
terms
of
both
funding
for
contracted
employees
as
well
as
in-house
employees,
and
then
there's
a
very
small
fixed
charges
element
in
the
fixed
charges.
O
Element
is
strictly
associated
with
aacps
employed
individuals,
so
we'll
sort
of
take
a
step
back
and
and
sort
of
walk
our
way
into
that.
So,
let's
begin
first
by
talking
about
the
numbers
that
aren't
up
there
on
the
board
we
have
had-
and
some
of
you
alluded
to
it-
and
I
know
the
administration
alluded
to.
We've
had
a
number
of
of
extremely
productive
conversations
with
with
members
of
the
county
with
our
contracting
community
other
subject
matter.
O
So
we've
covered
some
of
this
material
with
the
last
two
board
meetings
so
to
some
extent,
I'm
repeating
myself,
but
I
want
you
to
understand
that
there's
a
foundational
basis
for
this.
It's
not
sort
of
a
unilateral
proposal
in
that
regard.
So,
with
respect
to
the
recruitment
and
retention
bonuses,
I
want
to
tackle
those
one
at
a
time,
although
they
are
interrelated,
so
recruitment
or
attention
bonuses
bonuses
by
their
very
nature,
are
essentially
one
time
in
nature.
O
Right,
that's
that's
what
we're
talking
about
here,
and
I
know
that
the
you
know,
through
our
own
observations
and
some
of
the
preliminary
work
that
the
workforce
development
corporation
has
already
done.
You
know
there's
a
range
out
in
the
market
space.
I
know
that
they
are
sort
of
polishing
the
end
of
their
their
homework,
to
determine
what
that
is,
but
but
a
2
000
figure
seemed
supportable.
At
least
preliminarily
figured
supportable
based
on
observations
out
in
the
market
space
and
the
market.
O
Space
is
not
just
in
the
public
sector,
but
very
much
in
the
private
sector
as
well,
and
this
really
is
a
private
sector
dominated
conversation
we're
having
here
so
recruitment
and
retention
bonuses
are
not
one
of
the
same,
so
a
recruitment
bonus
is
associated
with
essentially
getting
somebody
in
the
door
the
first
time,
so
they
are
currently
not
an
employee,
not
a
bus
driver,
a
bus
attendant
a
bus
driver
in
this
case
for
a
company,
it's
getting
them
in
the
door,
incentivizing
them
to
make
application,
go
through
the
process
of
becoming
certificated,
to
drive
a
bus
and
then
being
able
to
be
fielded
and
put
out
into
service
in
terms
of
driving
the
students.
O
So
in
a
in
a
recruitment
type
scenario
that
typically,
the
disbursement
of
those
funds,
is
a
little
bit
front
loaded.
So
I'm
really
just
making
up
a
hypothetical
example,
because
none
of
this
is
in
stone.
But
if
you
took
a
two
thousand
000
number
right
in
a
recruitment
kind
of
scenario,
you
would
want
that
to
be
a
little
bit
more
front
loaded.
O
You
know
one
sort
of
mid-span
when,
when
somebody
has
attained
some
other
milestones,
longevity
milestones,
etc
and
then
likely
one
at
the
end
of
the
academic
calendar
year
to
make
sure
that
they
stayed
all
the
way
through
and
filter
obligations
through.
Essentially,
the
midpoint
of
june
retention.
Bonus
is
the
little
bit
of
the
opposite
right,
they're,
already
employed
in
some
capacity
driving
a
bus
in
this
scenario.
O
So
it's
not
as
important
to
have
it
front
loaded
because
you're
not
attracting
somebody
in
a
door,
you're
incentivizing
them
to
stay,
and
so,
while
it
is
important
to
have
some
monochrome
of
those
funds
distributed
early
and
then
also
some
of
it
mid
mid
span
right,
mid
mid
year,
mid
performance
period,
but
in
all
likelihood
that
would
be
more
heavier
back
loaded
because
you,
while
they're
already
here,
you
want
to
incentivize
them
to
finish
out
their
entire
contract
period
and
perform
fully
to
the
end.
O
The
natural
question
would
be
well
why,
although
the
distribution
schedule
may
look
different,
why
would
the
number
not
be
different?
And
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
the
thinking
on
that
right?
So
if
you,
if
you
only
did
a
recruitment
bonus,
you
could
create
a
sort
of
a
an
adverse
or
a
negative
situation
in
which
you'd
have
drivers
that
would
be
jumping
from
contractor
a
to,
b
or
b
to
c
simply
to
get
a
a
bonus,
a
sign
on
sort
of
a
recruitment
bonus,
but
it
really
doesn't
help
build
or
stabilize
the
industry.
O
It
just
moves
the
problem
from
contractor
a
to
contractor
b,
but
in
reality,
problem
still
remains.
There's
still
a
bus
that
doesn't
have
a
driver,
and
so
you
know
the
dynamic
is
you
don't
really
want
to
set
up
a
competition
between
attracting
new
drivers
or
retaining
existing
drivers,
because
both
are
equally
important
and
because
they're
equally
important?
O
But
that's
the
rationale
in
that
regard
because
they
are
kind
of
one-time
funds
to
write,
there's
no
obligation
or
or
promise
that
they're
to
continue
on
in
perpetuity.
Those
are
the
kind
of
funds
that
are
are
one-time
funds
that
are
ready,
ready
or
able
to
be
paid
by,
for
example,
a
grant
or
some
sort
of
unique
funding
structure
that
does
not
have
to
be
recurring
in
nature.
O
So
with
that
I'll
kind
of
briefly
set
aside
the
recruitment
and
retention
side
of
the
equation
and
sort
of
migrate,
our
way
over
to
the
the
operating
element-
oh
I'm
sorry,
and
with
respect
to
recruitment
and
retention
that
is
not
subject
to
a
in,
in
essence,
not
subject
to
a
vote
by
this
board.
O
Okay,
it
is
part
of
the
the
plan
that
is
being
pondered
and
put
forward,
but
that
does
not
in
effect
take
an
action
of
this
board.
That
is
actually
a
a
decision
that
can
be
made
on
the
part
of
the
administration
and
economic
development
workforce
development
corporation,
more
specifically,
in
all
likelihood
here.
O
So
that
is
not
what's
before
you
this
evening,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
a
complete
picture
what's
before
you
this
evening
is
a
request
for
a
supplemental
operating
budget
allocation
that
it
will
be
a
mid-year
adjustment
to
your
already
adopted
fy
22
budget
you're
talking
about
a
compensation
and
there's
some
fixed
charges,
but
we'll
set
that
aside
temporarily
talking
about
a
compensation
enhancement
to
employees
that
is
contemplated
to
essentially
have
permanency
right,
because
we're
not
contemplating
providing
them
an
x
dollar
per
hour,
compensation
enhancement
and
then
that's
going
to
disappear
in
x,
months
or
y
months
or
even
next
fiscal
year.
O
So
it
needs
to
have
some
permanency
right.
It
needs
to
be
recurring
with
the
thought
that
it
would
continue
and
essentially
create
a
new
baseline
or,
in
effect,
create
a
new
point
from
which
future
negotiations,
future
bids
etc
would
continue
to
occur,
and
so
traditionally,
things
that
are
already
occurring
in
that
nature
typically
are
funded
with
paygo
right.
It's
a
it's
an
ongoing
operating
budget
type
of
scenario,
not
that
grant
funding
can
be
used
as
a
bridging
strategy,
but
eventually
it's
something
that
you
know.
O
Most
budgeteers
would
look
to
to
make
permanent
right
to
primatize
the
the
structure
we
have.
A
combination
here
in
our
county
of
partially
contracted,
mostly
contracted
over
90
percent
contracted,
and
we
self-perform
a
little
bit
of
that
in-house.
O
We
have
585
routes
that
are
outsourced
at
a
contract
right
now,
so
585
contracted
routes
that
require
a
driver.
Our
contract
with
the
with
the
companies
basically
requires
that
they
have
a
10
spare
capacity.
A
bench.
We've
talked
about
a
bench
in
this
in
this
forum,
but
it
is
not
contemplated
that
the
entire
10
of
their
spare
capacity,
their
bench,
really
be
frontline
substitute
drivers.
O
So
five
percent
is
probably
the
the
natural
break
point
there
in
terms
of
having
subs,
because
beyond
that
they
have
the
ability
to
do
what
they
already
are
doing.
They
can
employ
supervisory
personnel
on
the
front
line.
They
can
put
mechanics
on
the
front
line.
There
are
other
personnel
within
a
bus
company
that
could
be
pressed
into
service,
so
really
we're
talking
in
terms
of
the
contracted
workforce.
O
Those
585
principal
routes
which
take
585
drivers
and
then
a
5
spare
capacity
and
a
5
spare
capacity
is
about
is
29.
If
you
run
the
math
out
same
thing
with
aids.
O
On
the
contracted
side,
we
have
258
attendants
aids
that
are
assigned
specifically
dedicated
towards
routes
and
then
that
same
five
percent
spare
capacity
logic
they
elaborated
on
earlier
is
also
in
essence
applicable.
So
if
you
have
258
aids,
you
need
about
13
additional
spares
amongst
the
contractors
to
cover
times
when
somebody
is
on
leave.
You
know
calls
out
for
whatever
reason
or
there's
a
transition
window
between
somebody
departing
and
somebody
coming
back.
O
I
think
we
talked
earlier
that
the
drivers
do
not.
In
fact,
you
know,
work
work
a
full
hour
a
day.
Eight
hour
day,
they
work
the
drivers
typically
work
a
6.75
hour
a
day
and
the
attendance
or
aids
work
about
a
6.5
hour
a
day
and
that's
an
average
right.
Some
some
work
more.
Some
work
a
little
bit
less,
but
that's
kind
of
an
average.
O
O
If
you
were
to
apply
a
a
five
dollar
an
hour
gross.
This
is
gross
compensation
enhancement
times
those
driver
and
attendant
figures
that
I
shared
earlier.
That's
about
just
under
5.4
million
dollars,
5.375.
O
P
O
O
The
concept
would
be
to
provide
that
same
level
of
the
playing
field
in
a
way
five
dollar
an
hour
compensation
increase
again,
that's
a
gross
number
that
can
be
distributed
differently,
depending
on
negotiations,
etc,
but
with
those
58
aacps
drivers
and
with
the
46
aacps
aids
at
that
five
dollar,
an
hour
compensation
increase
together.
O
O
Aid
window
or
a
tenant
window
and
again
this
would
be
on
a
contracted
side
only
because
aacps,
employee
drivers
and
aides
already
work
in
eight
hour
schedule,
so
that
would
not
really
affect
the
math
on
that
running.
The
the
differentials
through
would
be
approximately
about
another
one
and
a
quarter
million
dollars
to
do
that.
O
Pull
those
numbers
together.
The
the
five
dollar
an
hour
compensation
increase
for
in-house
and
contracted
personnel
and
the
extension
of
their
duty
day
is
how
you
arrive
at
that
7.45
operating
budget
figure
backing
up
the
train
just
a
little
bit.
I
did
want
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
about
the
the
bonus
issue
and
just
explain
some
of
the
the
net
on
the.
L
O
Numbers
on
that,
we
currently-
and
I
think,
we've
had
those
conversations
here.
We
currently
are
about
60
drivers
short,
that's
kind
of
like
the
the
headline
figure.
Right
and
again,
we
talked
about
sort
of
a
in
our
honor
about
a
two
thousand
dollar
kind
of
number,
being
the
right
number
potentially
for
a
recruitment
scenario.
O
We
also
know
that
there
is
going
to
be
some
attrition
going
on
so
instead
of
calculating
it
at
60,
which
is
kind
of
the
number
we're
looking
at
this
model
is
built
for
70..
So
70
is
the
n
right,
so
70
70
recruitment
bonuses
at
two
thousand
dollars.
Each
is
140
thousand
dollars
and
then
on
the
retention
side
of
the
equation
with
the
614
drivers,
which
is
the
primary
spares
and
the
271
attendance,
which
is
the
primaries
plus
spares
at
two
thousand
dollars.
O
Each
the
drivers
would
be
about
1.2
million
dollars
and
the
attendance
would
be
about
542
thousand,
so
those
numbers
all
added
together,
the
140,
the
one
and
a
quarter
and
the
542
gets
you
to
10.91,
I'm
sorry,
1.91
million
dollars,
so
1.91
million
dollars.
Again,
that's
not
subject
to
your
vote,
but
just
so
you
understand,
the
numbers
would
be
embedded
within
the
recruitment
and
retention
arena
and
then
the
7.454
number
before
you
would
be
embedded
within
a
supplemental
request
in
terms
of
operating
dollars.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chignovich.
Dr
aladdin,
should
I
move
on
to
questions?
Do
you
have
anything
else
to
add?
Okay,
miss
schelheim.
D
Yes,
I
just,
I
think
this
question
is
probably
for
for
dr
alato,
going
back
to
what
we
heard
in
testimony
about
how
this
this
pot
of
money
could
be
structured.
D
It
seems
to
me
that
that
that
it's
either
you
know
an
hourly
a
per
hour
increase
or
it
could
be
structured
in
other
ways.
So
is
this,
like
any
other
bucket
of
money
that
we
receive
in
your
recommended
budgets
every
year,
where
it's
a
placeholder
subject
to
negotiation
with
the
contractors
or
is?
Are
we
hard
on
the
on
on
the
five
dollar
an
hour
model,
as
opposed
to
a
percentage
increase
like
what
we
heard
in
testimony.
I
That's
all
subject
to
negotiations
and
not
yet
negotiations.
Let
me
clarify
not
yet
negotiations
with
the
contractors
negotiations
with
the
county
government.
We
have
to
sit
down
and
have
conversations
as
the
county
executive
said
appropriately.
This
is
a
starting
point.
I
don't
know
that
it's
going
to
be
five
dollars
an
hour.
I
don't
know
that
it's
gonna
be
two
thousand
dollars
for
a
signing
bonus
or
retention
bonus,
but
that's
the
plan
that
we
move
forward,
we
think
is
appropriate.
I
D
M
M
O
Me
start
with
the
intent
piece
and
then
maybe
maybe
send
it
over
to
the
administration,
but
but
I
think
we're
going
to
be
pretty
close
on
our
answer.
What
mr
trumbauer
told
you
is
is
factually
correct.
I
think
we,
you
know,
we
almost
become
you
know
siamese
twins
during
budget
season,
so
the
the
intention
missed
open,
dr
turban,
I'm
sorry
is,
is
that
this
would
be
a
permanent
compensation
enhancement
not
to
be
withdrawn
or
neutered
at
some
point
in
time
into
the
future.
O
The
funding
source
and
its
totality
being
within
maintenance
of
effort
would
be
there
the
the
risk
if
there
is
a
risk-
and
this
is
where
I'm
going
to
pass
it
off,
though,
is
in
in
any
year
ultimately
you're
subject
to
the
budget.
Ordinance
right
and
our
budgets
are
dispensed
within
those
state
categories.
B
J
Chris
can
talk
to
you
about
the
jerusalem
recurring
and-
and
you
know
one
year,
but
it's
the
things
that
we
expect.
I
mean
a
recession
comes
along.
There's
left
less
revenue
for
whatever
reason
you
know
we
have
to
make
cuts
even
in
recurring
expenses,
then
that's
painful,
but
but
it's
the
things
that
we
expect
to
recur.
You
have
12
year
contracts
with
these
companies.
So
so
you
know
that
this
is
going
to
recur.
Yeah.
J
K
Of
this
process,
if
you
all
pass
your
action
and
then
the
county
council
passes
the
appropriation
bill,
there's
only
two
things
that
will
happen:
transportation
will
be
increased
by
7.634
million,
and
fixed
charges
would
be
increased
by
91
201
dollars.
That's
the
only
action
the
county
takes,
we
put
more
money
into
those
two
buckets.
What
happens
after
that
is
entirely
on
the
board's
purview.
So
the
negotiations,
how
it's
structured,
all
we
do
is,
is
the
money
and
you
like
we
discussed
before
you,
you
all-
will
submit
this
request.
It'll
go
through
our
process.
K
We
can't
guarantee
here
at
the
table
tonight
that
it
will
emerge
exactly
as
you
request,
but
something
will
happen,
I'm
fairly
confident
and
then
again,
if
it's
different
from
what
you
all
requested,
you
will
get
the
end
product
and
then
you
will
decide
what
you
know,
what
changes
to
make
or
how
to
negotiate
that
or
what
have
you
next
year?
As
mr
shaknovic
said,
every
every
new
budget
on
in
some
sense
is
a
blank
slate.
So
you,
the
board,
will
have
its
request.
The
administration
will
put
our
proposed
budget
together.
K
The
county
council
has
ultimate
fiscal
authority
on
that,
but
if
you
take
out
the
pandemic
year
of
the
previous
fiscal
year
and
you
look
at
fy,
20
and
fy
22,
I
mean
this
administration
has
funded
well
above
maintenance
of
effort.
So
that's
not
the
constraint.
The
constraint
is
what
resources
we
have
to
dedicate
to
the
board
and
then
working
collaboratively
with
you
all
where
we
prioritize
those.
So
I
can
say
with
relative
confidence
we
we
would
not
put
this
in
one
year
and
then
completely
unfunded
the
next
year.
K
That's
just
bad
budgeting
but,
as
I
hope
you
all
would
agree,
we're
always
interested
in
looking
at
the
budget
to
see
where
there
might
be
savings
or
changes
or
something
year
over
year,
and
that's
that's
what
I
think
mr
shaknovich
and
and
myself
excel
at
is
all
that
behind
the
scenes
work
to
get
to
the
final
product
that
gets
there.
So
I
hope
I
hope
that
helped
answer
your
question,
which
I
thought
was
a
good
one.
M
It
does
thank
you
and
just
to
say,
though,
as
has
been
noted,
we're
now
in
a
very
public
position
of
making
very
public
promises
essentially-
and
I
think
I
take
that
very
seriously-
I
think
we
all
do-
and
it's
well
known,
I
think,
to
anybody
who's
been
following
us
following
this.
We
didn't
get
here
overnight.
N
N
So
in
other
words,
if
mr
burge's
team
comes
back
with
a
number
that
requires
an
additional
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
there,
let's
say
as
in
order
to
make
it
play
and
that's
the
objective
or
comes
back
and
says
actually
that's
a
little
overshot,
and
I
think,
or
in
the
course
of
restructuring
between
the
incentivization
and
retention
promotions,
that
the
recommendation
comes
down
and
you
all
are
in
concurrence.
N
O
I'm
using
decided
exactly,
I
think
I
understand
I
think
I
understand
your
question.
So
let
me
let
me
parse
out
the
answer
to
begin
with,
with
respect
to
recruitment
or
attention
bonuses,
you
are
taking
no
action,
correct.
O
Wanted
to
I
wanted
to
answer
that,
so
we
can
set
that
aside
now
on
the
operating
budget.
Side
of
the
equation
in
the
general
premise
is
that
the
the
a
unit
of
county
government
essentially
cannot
fund
you
at
a
level
greater
than
what
you
asked
for.
O
So
if,
for
whatever
reason,
new
information
came
to
light
and
said
that
it
was
it,
it
should
have
should
have
been
a
number
higher
than
this.
That
would
require
this
board
to
take
that
action
to
hypothetically,
to
increase
your
ask,
and
that
would
then
facilitate
the
administration,
ultimately,
the
legislative
body,
the
county
council,
to
final
fiscal
authority
to
consider
that
higher
number.
O
Conversely,
if
it
comes
in
lower
your
you
likely,
would
you
likely
would
not
need
to
take
any
action
immediately,
as
as
mr
pittman
and
mr
trumbauer
said
it
is,
it
is
subject
just
like
your
regular
budget
right.
It's
going
to
be
subject
to
a
lot
of
sort
of
I'll,
say
scrutiny
in
the
correct
way,
because
budgeteers
and
auditors
apply
scrutiny
right,
so
they're
going
to
apply
scrutiny
in
the
right
way
and
ultimately
they
will
approve
a
figure
within
a
state
category.
O
N
It
does
just
as
a
quick
follow
up.
If
I
may,
president
ellis
then,
since
some
of
my
under
I,
I
thought
our
transit
that
we
typically
are
drawing
on
that
off
of
our
per
pupil
allocation
from
the
state.
Some
of
those
funds
for
transportation
are
covered
under
that
not
the
ftes
per
se,
but
the
other.
N
O
So
I'll
say
in
general,
no
at
the
at
the
top
level.
No
because
the
trend,
the
state
funding
formulas
are
extremely
formulaic,
they're,
they're,
very
rigid
and
kind
of
prescriptive,
formulaic,
so
essentially
it's
a
math
equation
and
that
they
apply
essentially
across
the
state.
Now
I
will
say
that
you
know
the
whether
it's
the
you
know
what
you
may
have
seen
or
heard
from
the
governor.
You
know
being
interested
in
this.
O
But
that's
you
know,
that's
not
really
something
that
that
you've
got
much
control
over,
but
certainly
within
your
circle
of
influences.
Talking
to
the
decision
makers
at
the
state
level
is
is
never
harmful.
I
always
encourage
you
to
do
that.
That's
that
advocacy
is
part
of
your
role.
It's
part
of
what
you
were
elected
to
do
as
the
county
executive
pointed
out
earlier,
but
but
no
I
would
not
it's
not
the
same
type
of
action
on
the
part
of
the
state
because
it
is
sort
of
very
rigid
and
and
formulaic.
O
N
Thank
you
for
that
comprehensive
commonalities
for
the
benefit
of
my
colleagues.
It's
my
understanding
that
there
is
talk
about
during
the
special
session
of
specifically
on
the
formula,
and
that's
why
I
was
asking
like.
Is
this
something
we
we
need
to
be
considering
separate
from
tonight
up
on
the
radar
for.
O
Consideration
again
we're
monitoring
it
and,
I
think
exactly
the
opportunity
as
well.
Yes,
we're
monitoring
to
the
extent
that
the
opportunity
would
arise.
We
would
certainly
weigh
in
right.
We
would
work
with
with
you,
ms
ortiz,
you
would
work
with
me.
The
superintendent
would
work
with
zam
etc,
but
you
know.