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Host Dot Arida highlights AVID students and teachers and discusses the advantages of the AVID program for students planning to attend college. This month, Dot is joined by Kellie Goforth, AVID Site Coordinator at North County High School, and Brad Bittinger, AVID Sited Coordinator at Southern High School, to talk about what happens after you apply to college.
November 2022
A
Hello
and
welcome
to
Avid
Achievers
I'm,
your
host.orita
coordinator
of
avid
today
on
Avid
Achievers.
We
will
talk
with
two
Avid
site
coordinators,
Kelly
Goforth
from
North
County,
High,
School
and
Brad
pittinger
from
Southern
High
School.
You
may
remember
them
on
a
previous
show
about
the
college
application
process
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
what
happens
after
those
acceptances
start
coming
in.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
Thanks.
B
B
I
mean
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
sometimes
months,
the
application
the
acceptances
will
start
coming
in.
Sometimes
they
have
financial
aid
attached
to
them.
Sometimes
they'll
come
a
little
bit
later,
but
really
it's
just
a
matter
of
collecting
everything,
all
the
acceptances
and
seeing
what
what
offers
come
from,
which
schools
and
making
the
best
decision.
C
And
acceptances
can
come
in
a
lot
of
different
forms.
Now
it
used
to
be
that
you
would
expect
that
really
big
envelope
in
the
mail,
but
now
the
envelope
might
be
a
lot
smaller
or
they
might
be
getting
their
acceptances
in
an
email
or
they
might
need
to
log
into
the
portal
on
the
school's
website
and
they
can
see
whether
they've
been
accepted
or
they're
missing
pieces
of
their
application.
Oh.
A
A
A
B
So
the
schools
are
going
to
offer
financial
aid
packages
depending
on
what
site
or
if
it's,
a
public
or
private
school.
Most
of
the
time,
private
schools
are
going
to
give
a
lot
more
money,
whereas
Public
Schools,
their
tuition
is
already
pretty
low,
so
they
don't
give
a
whole
lot
more
money.
On
top.
Some
schools
also
will
wait
until
you
file
the
FAFSA
and
they'll
they'll
come
out
with
more
financial
aid
offers
in
the
spring.
So
it
all
depends
on
the
school
and
the
timing
of
when
you
apply
as
well
and.
C
When
you
get
that
letter
from
your
schools
with
acceptances,
there's
need-based,
Aid
and
merit-based
Aid
and
a
lot
of
acceptances,
maybe
not
a
lot,
but
a
few
acceptances
will
come
with
a
letter
that
has
Instant
merit-based
Aid
on
it,
where
it's
like
you've
been
accepted
to
so
and
so
college
and
here's
your
merit
scholarship
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
and
that
would
be
based
on
a
student's
GPA
or
their
SAT
scores.
C
Because
if
you
have
a
certain
GPA
and
SAT
score
combination,
some
schools
will
take
a
certain
amount
off
of
that
tuition
and
that'll
come
in
that
initial
letter.
And
then
when
Brad
was
talking
about
the
FAFSA,
sometimes
or
oftentimes,
there's
an
additional
letter
that
comes
out
later,
even
months
after
the
acceptance
that
has
the
official
like
outline
of
the
student's
full
student
aid
with
the
FAFSA
on
it
and
with
the
merit-based
scholarships.
A
B
B
B
We
want
to
push
kids
to
apply
early,
but
not
necessarily
make
a
decision
about
where
they
want
to
go
until
the
spring,
because
they
don't
know
what
their
aid
packages
look
like
and
if
you're
saying
that
you're
going
to
commit
to
a
school
in
December
or
January,
very
early
they're
not
going
to
give
you
anything
else
because
they
know
you're
already
committed.
So
if
you
wait
a
little
bit,
wait
for
your
FAFSA
wait
for
a
little
bit
more
Aid
and
you
can
really
compare
what
the
you
know.
C
And
I
would
say
that
that
letter
comes
around
february-ish,
that
official
award
letter
and
what's
really
cool,
is
that
then,
once
you
have
all
of
your
award
letters
in
you
can
call
the
school
and
say:
hey
School
a
is
giving
me
this
much
money,
but
I'm,
really
interested
in
your
school.
Would
you
be
willing
to
match
it
and
I've
heard
students
that
have
had
have
gotten
yeses
from
that
and
students
that
have
gotten
those
and
then
the
worst
thing
that
can
happen?
A
C
A
So
I
know,
as
a
parent
I,
keep
telling
my
senior
like
you
have
to
feel
like
you're,
going
to
be
at
home,
where,
where
you're
going
to
end
up.
So
when
we
talk
about,
you
know
that
social
fit.
That's
that's
the
piece
right
like
when
you
show
up
on
campus.
Are
you
going
to
be
comfortable
living
there,
and
this
is
going
to
become
your
new
community
and
you
have
to
make
sure
that
that's
going
to
be
a
comfortable
fit
for
you
and.
C
Sometimes
the
trade-off
is
the
the
higher
price
is
worth
that
social
fit.
I
would
never
say
to
a
student
to
compromise
on
the
academic
fit
because
that's
the
main
goal
is
that
you're
getting
the
major
for
the
career
that
you
want
to
have,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
school
has
our
major,
but
also
is
a
good
Financial
fit
right.
B
And
if
we're
talking
like
most
of
the
time,
we
spend
fall
semester
applying
and
waiting
for
acceptances
in
the
spring,
they
have
a
good
four
to
five
months
before
they
need
to
make
that
final
decision
and
there's
no
penalty
for
waiting.
So
if
they
push
it
all
the
way
until
May
1st,
that's
okay,
the
best
thing
they
can
do
in
that
time
is
go
visit
the
schools,
because
now
it's
real
now
they've
they
can
be
a
student
they've,
gotten
an
acceptance
letter
to
the
schools
and
they
have
a
finite
list
of
schools.
B
They
want
to
see
you
know
and
junior
year
and
even
early
senior
year,
any
school
was
a
possibility.
So
there's
so
many
things
to
consider.
But
now
they've
applied
to
these
three
to
five
schools
and
they've
got
acceptances
from
these
three
to
five
schools.
So
these
are
the
ones
that
we're
actually
going
to
see
and
narrow
it
down,
and
once
you
step
foot
on
campus
a
lot
of
times,
you
just
know
you
just
feel
it.
You
just
know
you
know
so
having
it
be.
B
A
I
really
do
like
that
idea
of
now
you
can
do
this
and
how
does
it
feel
now
now
that
it's
really
real
and
you
can
really
make
that
choice?
I
I,
like
that
advice,
and
what
are
some
of
the
things
you
tell
the
kids
to
investigate
when
they
go
back
for
that
new
visit
right,
so
I've
I've
been
here,
I've
seen
the
buildings
I've
talked
about,
you
know
what
campus
life
is
like,
but
what
are
some
of
the
things
you
tell
them
to
look
at
now
with
a
new
lens.
B
Yeah
absolutely
I
mean
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
that
we've
done
in
junior
year
include
like
looking
for
majors
and
stuff,
so
the
schools
they've
applied
to
already
have
all
the
things
that
they
want
academically
now
it's
time
to
see
like
this
is
where
I'm
actually
going
to
live
for
the
next.
However
many
years
or
semesters
or
whatever,
so
getting
that
real
feel
I
mean
absolutely
all
those
things
for
sure
and.
A
A
So
I
know
at
one
of
the
schools
that
my
son
was
Contin,
considering
we
actually
went
and
met
with
the
academic
chair
for
his
major
and
I
found
that
to
be
pretty
beneficial
right,
so
you're,
actually
in
the
building,
where
most
of
their
classes
are
going
to
happen,
we
actually
got
to
see
some
classes
in
progress
and
that
academic
advisor
got
to
give
us
like
very
specific
examples,
like
you
know,
when
you're
student
teaching,
if
you
play
on
a
sports
team,
this
is
how
we
accommodate
for
that.
A
So
things
like
that
I
think
are
really
important
too,
like
actually
getting
to
meet
some
of
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
in
the
department
where
you're
going
to
be
spending
your
time
right,
awesome.
So
all
right,
so
we
we've
got
our
offers
from
our
colleges.
We
we,
we
know
we're
in
that
decision
making
time
so
now,
it's
time
to
start
looking
for
scholarships
right
well,.
C
We
you
can
start
looking
for
scholarships
at
any
point.
There
are
scholarships
available
to
ninth
grade
students,
8th
grade
students,
it's
really
a
numbers
game
and
the
more
scholarships
you
apply
to
the
more
likely
you
are
to
receive
one.
So
there's
no
reason
to
wait
until
you
get
your
first
acceptance
to
start
thinking
about
those
scholarships.
Yeah.
B
If
you're,
if
you're
applying
early
to
scholarships,
it
really
gives
you
a
sense
of
what
they
are
looking
for
and
then
by
the
time
you
are
a
junior
or
a
senior
you,
hopefully
you've,
you've
kind
of
curated
your
resume
to
to
be
more
well-rounded
or
to
fit
more
things.
You
know,
if
I
have
a
lot
of
students
that
that
realize
that
certain
scholarships
or
even
schools
are
looking
for.
You
know
sports,
but
also
service
and
also
you
know
getting
involved
or
getting
a
job.
So
they
can.
B
They
can
think
about
that
as
they
go
from
being
a
14
year
old,
freshman,
all
the
way
up
to
being
you
know
a
senior
and
they
can
kind
of
do
things
that
are
going
to
build
their
resume
and
give
them
a
way
better
chance
of
paying
for
college
right.
So
a
kid
who
has
very
little
on
their
resume
strong
academically.
Maybe
but
their
resume
is
is
pretty
pointed.
Let's
say
it's
not
very
well-rounded.
They
might
not
have
as
many
opportunities
as
a
kid
who's
who's
branched
out
and
tried
a
lot
of
things.
B
I
think
the
best
opportunity
is
the
local,
the
more
the
more
local
the
scholarship,
the
better
opportunity
they
have
to
to
earn
money.
There
are
big
National
scholarships,
but
that
means
that
there's
a
lot
of
applicants,
so
you
really
have
to
be
at
the
top
of
the
at
the
top
of
the
the
food
chain
on
those
to
win.
B
So
you
know
the
the
more
local
they
are
the
better
and
if
they
fit
a
student's
criteria
or
demographics
or
background
or
you
know,
sometimes
they
have
scholarships
that
are
for
kids,
who
have
overcome
a
specific
obstacle
right.
So
if
you
can
find
those,
that's
really
your
best
bet,
because
you're
really
narrowing
down
the
applicant
pool,
you
know
I'd
rather
buy
a
lottery
ticket
against
10
people
versus
a
lottery
ticket
against
a
million
people,
because
I
have
better
chances
of
winning.
B
C
North
County
has
a
our
community,
has
a
women
of
limthicum
scholarship.
So
it's
really
great
to
get
all
of
our
female
students
to
apply
to
that
women
of
Linthicum
scholarship
I
think.
Actually
they
just
recently
opened
it
up
to
male
students
as
well.
C
But
again
you
have
to
be
from
that
community
and
live
in
that
community,
and
so
it
Narrows
down
that
pool
in
my
11
years
of
teaching
Avid
I've
only
had
one
or
two
students
win
one
of
those
scholarships
that
you
can
find
on
those
big
scholarship
websites
like
unigo
or
fastweb
or
scholarships.com
I.
Think
I've
had
about
two
kids
win
that
500
scholarship
from
there,
but
our
kids
win
the
local
scholarships
very
often
and
our
counseling
departments
in
aacps
house
all
of
those
scholarships
and
they
keep
them
up
to
date
on
Naviance
as
well.
B
Yeah,
each
Community
usually
has
their
own
community
centers,
like
roratan
or
Knights
of
Columbus
Elks
moose
other
animals
right.
So
they
have
these
lodges.
They
always
have.
You
know
these
are
service
organizations
that
give
money
to
kids
who
have
similar
interests
right.
So
there's
in
every
Community
pretty
much
across
the
country,
there's
those,
but
they
only
serve
the
local
community.
B
Anne
Arundel
County
like
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
things
like
that
they
have
their
own
scholarships
as
well.
So
looking
around
at
different
government
organizations,
different
private
organizations,
they
usually
have
have
money
to
to
provide
to
students.
So.
A
C
College
and
Career
advisor
has
been
working
with
students
individually
on
feedback
on
their
resumes.
She
has
read
college
essays
for
the
students
and
it's
really
easy
to
get
in
and
get
an
appointment
with
them
to
get
that
one-on-one
feedback
that,
when
you're
sitting
in
the
classroom,
you
might
not
be
able
to
get
as
in-depth
as
a
one-on-one
meeting
with
the
College
and
Career
advisor.
B
Yeah
and
to
piggyback
off
of
that
one,
one
of
the
things
that
kids
can
really
help
themselves
to
have
is
an
essay
or
two
when
it
comes
to
scholarships.
If
they
have
a
strong
essay
that
they've
written
for
college
applications,
they
can
use
that
for
a
lot
of
different
scholarships
as
well.
Some
kids
really
really
put
off
the
writing
process
when
it
comes
to
that.
B
But
if
they
have,
you
know
just
if
they
can
get
two
or
three
done
just
completely
done
most
of
the
time
they're
between
life
experiences
and
whatever
they
write
about,
they
can
fit
that
into
other
scholarships.
So
it's
not
like
they
have
to
write
something
brand
new
from
scratch
for
every
scholarship
they
apply
to,
but
just
a
side
note
most
of
the
time.
The
the
scholarships
that
are
worth
your
time
are
the
ones
that
require
some
amount
of
work.
B
So
for
us,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
about
Kelly,
but
for
me,
I,
don't
accept
anything,
a
scholarship,
that's
not
that
doesn't
require
an
essay
or
sometimes
a
blog
post
or
some
type
of
work
right.
They
want
to
know
about
the
kid
if
the
S,
if
the,
if
the
scholarship
just
asks
for
name
phone
number
and
email
address,
I
mean
what
do
they
really
they're,
not
asking
for
anything
they're,
just
looking
for
information,
so
that's.
B
A
scholarship
basically
like
yes,
it'd,
be
better
serving
your
time
to
just
buy
a
lottery
ticket
at
that
point
right
so
anytime.
They
have
that
they
ask
for
a
specific
essay
or
something
you
actually
have
to
do.
You
want.
They
want
to
know
more
about
you
as
a
student
or
a
person.
Those
are
worth
worth
your
time.
A
C
C
B
I
think
also,
what
kids
don't
expect
is
how
to
meet
new
people
that
they're,
that
are
like
I,
mean
you're,
going
to
a
place
where
everybody's,
a
stranger
so
meeting
new
people
is
something
they
haven't
ever
had
to
do
right.
So
just
practicing
that
introducing
yourself
it's
weird,
it's
really
weird,
but
I
think
it
really
helps
kids
to
be
able
to
do
that
because
the
first
time
you
do,
it
obviously
is
really
really
awkward
right.
A
B
The
more
they
practice
it
and
having
that
time
to
practice-
and
they
also
have
time
in
between
when
they
get
accepted
or
when
they
make
their
final
decision
and
when
they
go,
they
have
a
few
months
in
there
to
try
to
get
to
know
their
roommate,
possibly
even
if
it's
through
social
media
or
or
virtually
or
whatever,
but
if
they
can
meet
up
with
that
person,
maybe
establish
some
some
rules
for
the
room
or
whatever
they
have
whatever
they
can
do
just
establishing
that
relationship
before
day.
One
of
school
is
really
beneficial
too
I.
C
Always
tell
my
students
that
a
compliment
and
an
open-ended
question
work
really
nicely
for
meeting
someone
new
for
the
first
time,
because
it
sets
them
kind
of
at
ease,
and
then
it
allows
the
person
to
respond
and
do
a
follow-up
and
so
a
compliment.
Then
an
open-ended
question
is
a
good
way
to
meet
somebody
that
you're
sitting
next
to
yeah.
B
B
Meet
new
people
sit
with
somebody
different
in
the
cafeteria,
just
little
things
that
really
make
a
difference,
because
when
you
get
to
College,
it's
going
to
be
that
all
day
every
day
right,
so
you
got
to
get
over
the
awkwardness
you
got
to
get
over
the
the
uncomfortableness
of
of
being
you
know,
sometimes
by
yourself
or
sometimes
with
strangers
or
whatever
so
practicing.
That
is
helpful.
A
B
Yeah
for
sure
I
think
every
student
leaves
with
their
own
style
of
taking
notes,
which
I
think
they
hone
in
on
when
they
get
to
college,
and
they
can.
They
can
really
put
it
to
use
when
they're,
when
they're
expected
to
organization
I
have
multiple
kids
that
were
very
much
against
using
an
agenda
in
high
school
that
are
very
much
for
using
an
agenda
in
college
because
they
need
it
because
they're
balancing
a
lot
of
different
things
and
a
lot
of
different
assignments.
B
Communication
as
well
I
mean
they're,
constantly
communicating
with
professors,
so
we're
taking
time
in
class
to
teach
them
how
to
write
professional
emails
and
talk
to
talk
to
their
professors
about
what
they
need
and
just
practicing
those
skills
as
well.
My.
C
Favorite
text
is,
you
were
right,
Miss
go
forth,
a
tutorial
is
really
just
a
study
group
and
I've
gotten
that
one
last
week
I
got
a
text
from
a
student
who's
applying
to
grad
school
right
now
and
she
had
said
I
wish.
I
was
back
in
Avid
so
that
you
could
help
me
with
my
grad
school
application,
and
that
was
pretty
cool
yeah.
A
Yeah
so
I
think
for
you
know
for
students
that
the
value
of
that
agenda,
because
we
we
try
to
tell
them
in
middle
school
and
high
school.
Like
you
know,
you
need
to
use
this
agenda.
You
need
to
keep
track
of
your
assignments,
but
I
think
what
they
really
need
to
realize
is
that
on
that
first
day,
you're
going
to
get
a
syllabus
in
your
class
and
then
it
is
your
job
to
go
and
put
those
dates
somewhere
and
then
not
miss
them.
A
So
your
professor
isn't
going
to
send
you
an
email
and
say:
hey,
remember
you
have
that
paper
due
on
Wednesday,
like
they've,
given
you
that
information
and
now
you
have
to
meet
it
and
then
teaching
them.
You
know
to
put
Sports
practices
or
movie
night,
or
you
know,
I'm
going
home
this
weekend
and
teaching
kids
to
look
at
you
know,
weeks
and
months
at
a
time
instead
of
days
at
a
time.
B
C
C
B
A
B
My
first
I
have
two
things:
one
of
them
is:
don't
go
home,
get
involved
in
everything
that
you
can
that's
positive
and
those
first
in
that
first
month
of
school,
the
school
puts
on
as
much
as
they
can
for
the
kids,
because
they
know
homesickness
is
real,
even
though
every
High,
School,
Junior
and
senior
denies
that
they'll
ever
be
homesick.
It
is
a
real
thing
when
your
parents
drive
away
and
they
leave
you
there.
C
B
You're,
you
know
it's
like
it's
summer
camp
for
for
four
months,
but
it's
hard.
You
know
it's,
it's
really
difficult.
So
getting
involved
and
meeting
new
people,
the
more
connections
that
you
can
make
to
professors,
students
Ras
anybody
right.
Those
are
those
are
great
things
because
you're
you're,
very
much
anchored
to
where
you
come
from
you're,
very
much
anchored
to
your
to
your
high
school.
You
played
Sports
there
you
played
music,
you
did
drama,
you
did
all
the
things
and
now
you're
you're.
You
have
no
roots
at
all
at
this
new
place.
B
So
the
way
you
make
those
routes
the
way
way
you
make
connections
is
to
be
there
and
to
get
involved
in
things
right
on
all
these
positive
things,
but
going
home.
Won't
it's
it's
like
you
know:
you're,
not
you're,
not
allowing
yourself
to
establish
any
Roots
there.
So
as
much
as
you
want
to
go
home
as
much
as
your
parents
will
allow
it,
you
don't
want
to
do
that.
C
Brad
and
just
making
sure
that
students
know
that
it's
going
to
happen
and
it's
okay
and
in
the
age
of
social
media,
everyone
is
posting,
you
know
their
very
best
selves,
and
so
you
might
be
looking
at
your
high
school
friends
online
and
saying,
like
everybody,
is
having
a
way
better
college
experience
than
I
am.
But
you
have
to
remember
that
it's
not
the
100
percent,
truth
of
the
story
and
just
being
okay
with
knowing
that
you're
in
a
new
situation
and
that
eventually,
it
will
feel
like
a
different
home
right.
B
And
I
think
that
some
kids,
they
forget,
that
my
friends
from
back
home
and
my
family
is
they're
going
to
be
there
right.
So
even
if
you
were
back
home,
it's
still
not
the
same,
though,
because
you're
not
in
high
school
anymore.
You
know
what
I
mean
you're
you're.
Your
friends
have
also
moved
on
and
they're
doing
their
own
thing
as
well.
So
it's
not
the
same
as
it
was
even
though
you're
in
a
different
place,
and
you
can't
see
it.
B
B
A
B
You
could
almost
argue
that
the
most
important
things
that
you'll
learn
at
College
happen,
probably
within
the
first
two
months
and
right.
Those
things
aren't
learned
in
the
classroom.
Those
things
are
learned
by
detaching
yourself
from
one
situation
and
putting
yourself
and
trying
to
survive
in
a
different
situation.
You
know
not
only
survive,
I
guess
but
Thrive.
You
know
making
friends
and
doing
things.
You've
never
had
to
do
before.
B
A
So
one
last
question,
then:
so
what
about
our
kids?
We
have
a
lot
more
kids
that
are
going
to
live
at
home
and
commute
to
college,
whether
it's
to
a
community
college
college
or
a
four-year
school,
but
to
save
a
little
bit
of
money,
they're
going
to
stay
home.
What
recommendations
do
you
have
for
those
kids
to
make
connections
so.
C
There's
still
community
activities
at
the
schools,
and
they
do
have
things
for
specifically
for
commuter
students
and
the
it's
just.
Click
on
that
search
bar
in
your
college
website
and
type
in
commuter
student
and
a
bunch
of
resources
will
come
up
that
are
tailored
specifically
to
that
type
of
student
and
thinking
about
you
know
how
they're
spending
their
free
time
is.
It
are
they
also
working
and
having
a
job
and
going
to
school
and
driving
back
and
forth,
and
thinking
about
the
cost
of
gas
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
consider.
C
But
you
can
still
have
that
college
experience
while
living
at
home
just
putting
yourself
out
there
it's
a
it
can
be
a
little
bit
more
challenging
because
you
don't
have
the
dorms
and
living
where
everybody
else
is
living,
but
maybe
doing
your
homework
on
campus.
Doing
your
homework
in
the
library
doing
your
homework
in
a
coffee
shop
just
hanging
out
on
campus,
maybe
purposefully
planning
your
classes.
So
it
gives
you
two
hours
on
campus
if
you
can
to
try
new
things
and
meet
different
people.
Yeah.
B
I
think
it's
a
big
mindset
thing
because
I
think
kids,
sometimes
when
they
commute,
they
don't
feel
like
they
are
a
part
of
the
community
when
they
really
are
or
they
could
be.
They
could
have
the
opportunity
to
so
just
viewing
it
as
not
just
a
place
where
I
go
to
class
and
do
these
things
academically,
but
also
this
is
like
a
kind
of
like
a
second
home,
even
though
I'm
not
living
here
I
spend
these
I
spend
my
time
here.