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A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
Anne
Arundel
County
Public
Schools
2018
Tuesday
summer
series
in
an
effort
to
address
and
provide
information
on
topics
of
concern
to
residents
across
the
county.
Inaudible,
County,
Public
Schools
is
hosting
six
summer
series
sessions
and
tonight
being
the
first.
Our
session
will
end
no
later
than
7
o'clock.
Please
be
advised
that
the
session
is
being
recorded
and
will
be
posted
on
the
website
for
public
reference.
A
A
Personnel
and
private
issues
can
be
discussed
with
our
staff
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting
this
evening
session
topic
is
transportation
specifically
transporting
your
children
to
school
parent
concerns
and
safe
bus.
Stop
habits
our
supervisor
of
transportation.
Mr.
les
Douglas
will
provide
an
overview
of
transportation.
B
Thank
you.
It's
it's
a
pleasure
to
speak
with
you
tonight
and
hopefully
I'll
give
you
some
information.
That's
useful
and
again,
we'll
have
questions
at
the
end.
Purpose
of
tonight's
presentation
is
twofold:
first,
is
to
address
several
common
parent
concerns
regarding
transportation
procedures
and
policies,
and,
second,
is
to
discuss
bus,
stop
habits
that
parents
and
students
should
use
to
ensure
safe
boarding
and
discharge
from
the
bus,
but
first
a
few
facts.
The
Transportation
Department
spends
approximately
58
million
dollars
to
transport
approximately
60,000
students
to
and
from
school
on,
600
school
buses.
B
B
Also
inclement
weather
procedures
and
collector
stops
for
magnet
schools,
so
who's
eligible
and
who's
not
eligible
for
transportation.
To
and
from
school
transportation
from
established
bus
stops
shall
be
provided
to
pre-kindergarten
and
kindergarten
students
who
live
over
1/2
mile
from
the
school
to
the
nearest
accessible
route,
all
using
the
nearest
accessible
route.
B
Excuse
me
all
other
elementary
school
students
who
live
more
than
one
mile
from
the
school
buy
the
nearest
accessible
route
and
all
middle
and
high
school
students
who
live
more
than
a
mile
and
a
half
from
their
assigned
school
buy
the
nearest
accessible
route.
Now
there
are
exceptions:
if
there's
no
suitable
walkway
between
the
home
and
the
school,
then
they
will
get
transportation.
In
some
cases,
students
live
very,
very
close
to
the
school,
but
because
they
would
have
to
cross
major
highway
a
major
arterial
roadway
without
a
crossing
guard.
We
would
provide
transportation.
B
So
those
those
are
exceptions
when
our
jobs
are
when
our
routes
adjusted.
When
do
we
add
a
stop
on
a
bus
or
in
bus
rota,
consideration
will
be
given
to
the
extension
of
an
existing
bus
route
when
one
or
more
students
walk
more
than
a
mile
to
the
bus.
Stop
other
factors
that
will
be
considered
are
time
available
to
make
the
extension
suitability
of
the
roads
for
the
school
bus,
operation
and
availability
of
an
appropriate
turnaround
area.
B
B
This,
if
an
audit
of
a
walk
area
indicates
that
they're
students
who
are
within
the
half
mile
mile
or
a
mile
and
a
half
and
they're
acceptable
walkways,
then
we
will
add
those
students
to
the
to
the
walk
area
and
again,
there
has
to
be
an
acceptable,
walk
path.
New
residence
within
the
prescribed
walk
distance.
If,
if
a
new
residence
is
added
a
new
subdivision
and
it's
within
the
mile
mile
and
a
half
or
in
the
case
of
pre-k
1/2
mile,
then
we
will
add
them
to
the
acceptable
to
the
to
the
walk
area.
B
And
then
something
has
been
happening
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
it
will
continue,
and
that
is
that
the
County
Transportation
Office
has
been
looking
into
where
to
put
sidewalks
in
the
county
and
our
department.
The
Transportation
Office
of
the
school
system
has
been
cooperating
with
them
to
give
them
maps
of
our
various
walk
areas
so
that
they
can
identify
areas
where
a
sidewalk
will
be
of
most
most
use,
so
we're
coordinating
with
the
County
Transportation
Office
to
identify
where
new
sidewalks
would
be
put
in
so
as
they
put
in
these
new
walk
paths.
B
Are
there
exceptions
to
the
element
eligibility
rules?
Students
are
to
use
one
designated
bus
stop
for
both
to
and
from
school
transportation
request
for
services
at
other
than
one
designated
bus.
Stop
must
be
evaluated
based
on
the
exceptional
transportation
request
form
provided
by
the
school
and
completed
by
the
parent.
Following
the
guidelines
outlined
on
the
form,
there
are
also
exceptions
for
the
eligibility
rule
for
IEP
s
and
504
plans.
In
some
cases,
this
exceptional
transportation
will
be
established
for
students
through
the
IEP
process
or
by
directive
of
a
504
plan
for
students
with
disabilities.
B
The
Transportation
Office
will
implement
these
exceptions
based
on
specific
directions
from
the
special
ed
Department.
These
exceptions
are
never
implemented
by
the
Transportation
Office
through
direct
requests
from
parents
now
who's
responsible
for
the
students
before
they
get
on
the
bus
in
the
morning
and
after
they
get
off
the
bus.
B
If,
if
we're
going
to
close
school,
you
have
either
a
code
red
or
a
code
blue
most
of
those
deal
with
what
happens
with
school
system
employees
as
the
general
public
as
parents
of
students.
You
have
to
understand
that
if,
if
the
code,
red
or
code,
blue
and
schools
are
closed,
that
it
will
affect
evening
high
school
and
alternative
programs,
let
me
go
through
the
list
code.
B
High
school
and
the
alternative
programs
are
canceled
when
Anne
Arundel
County
public
schools
are
closed
for
inclement
weather
after
school
and
evening
activities
at
schools,
including
practices,
performances
clubs
and
athletic
events
are
canceled
when
schools
are
closed
for
inclement
weather
Code
Red
is,
is
the
same
other
than
the
fact
that
the
staff
at
the
school
doesn't
have
to
go
into
school,
but
it
is
important
that
when
schools
are
closed,
it
means
all
evening.
Activities
are
closed.
B
Also,
let's
discuss
a
two-hour
delayed
opening,
and
this
this
sounds
obvious
to
say,
but
we
get
quite
a
few
calls
that
say
if
schools
are
delayed
by
two
hours,
when
will
the
bus
come?
Ok,
buses
will
arrive
at
their
regular
stops
two
hours
later
than
the
usual
time.
So
if
school
starts
at
7:30,
it'll
start
at
9:30.
If
the
bus
comes
at
6:45,
it'll
come
at
8:45,
so
it's
the
bus.
B
The
bus
also
will
be
two
hours
later
and
then
the
normal
pickup
full-day
kindergarten
is
in
session,
but
it
will
open
two
hours
late
half-day
morning
sessions
in
preschool
ECI
and
Developmental
Center
centers
are
canceled
half-day
afternoon
sessions
of
preschool
ECI
and
developmental
centers
operate
on
normal
hours,
Center
for
Applied
Technology
morning
sessions
are
canceled
and
afternoon
sessions
operate
as
normal
schools
closed
at
regular
time.
Walking.
Students
should
use
extreme
caution.
B
Details
for
in
Anne,
Arundel,
County
Schools
will
dismiss
two
hours
early.
Our
half-day
afternoon.
Sessions
of
preschool
ECI
and
developmental
centers
are
canceled
half-day
morning.
Sessions
of
pre-kindergarten,
ECI
and
developmental
centers
will
dismiss
at
regular
time
or
11:20
a.m.
whichever
is
earlier.
B
B
This
is
of
necessity,
something
you
might
not
under
any
of
you
might
know,
but
some
donuts
what
we
have
the
we
have
the
longest
coastline
of
any
County
in
the
United
States,
and
what
what
that
means
is
is
that
you
might
be
at
the
end
of
of
one
peninsula
and
you
have
to
go
to
school
at
the
end
of
the
next
Peninsula
and
because
it's
a
countywide
program,
it
takes
you
forever
to
get
there.
We
also
have
two
military
bases:
Fort
Meade
and
also
the
Naval
Academy
and
in
the
case
of
Fort
Meade.
B
Getting
on
and
off
base
is
very,
very
difficult.
So
you
have
to
add
those
factors
to
the
fact
that
you're,
the
students
in
a
lot
of
cases
are
miles
away
from
the
school
they
attend.
So
all
of
these
factors
really
combine
to
make
to
make
for
very
long
bus
rides
in
an
attempt
to
keep
the
routes
from
being
even
longer.
Yet
the
transportation
office
uses
collector
stops
for
these
programs.
These
stops,
in
most
cases,
are
located
in
libraries,
are
central
locations
within
communities
and
are
not
within
the
walking
distance
for
most
students.
B
It's
the
responsibility,
the
parents
or
guardians
to
transport
students
to
these
stops.
One
reason
why
libraries
are
used
is
because
libraries
will
stay
open
and
it
gives
kids
an
opportunity
to
go
inside,
get
shelter,
warmth,
they
have
a
place
to
study
until
mom
and
dad
could
possibly
pick
them
up
if,
in
fact,
that's
an
issue
for
the
parents.
B
B
First
of
all,
students
should
arrive
at
the
bus
stop
at
least
10
minutes
before
the
bus
is
scheduled
to
arrive
for
two
reasons,
and
one
of
these
most
people
don't
think
about,
but
it
keeps
the
driver
from
being
distracted
by
pedestrian
movement
around
the
bus.
The
most
common
cause
of
student
injury
at
bus
stops,
yes,
showing
up
early
is
a
safety
factor.
If
a
bus
driver
is
driving
down
the
road-
and
you
see
pedestrians
moving
around
as
the
bus
is
approaching,
it's
much
more
difficult
for
the
bus
driver
to
take
account
of
all
pedestrians.
B
B
B
If
kids
are
around
the
bus,
it's
much
more
difficult
for
the
driver
to
maintain
a
safe
situation.
If
your
child
must
cross
the
street
in
front
of
the
bus,
so
they're
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street,
and
there
there
are
times
when
the
bus
comes
down,
the
road
extends
its
stop
arm
out
in
front
of
the
bus.
B
You
need
to
tell
the
students
to
walk
on
a
sidewalk
along
the
side
of
the
street
to
a
place
at
least
five
giant
steps
in
front
of
the
bus
before
crossing.
You
want
to
that.
Middle
diagram
shows
that
you
should
cross
far
enough
in
front
of
the
bus,
so
the
bus
driver
can
see
you
very
short.
Students
who
walk
right
in
front
of
the
front.
Bumper
are
invisible
to
the
driver,
and
that
causes
a
safety
issue.
B
Your
child
should
also
make
eye
contact
with
the
bus
driver
before
crossing
to
make
sure
the
driver
can
see
him
or
her.
There
is
nothing
that
prevents
these
kinds
of
issues
more
or
more
effectively
than
keep
an
eye
contact
with
the
bus
driver
if
your
child
dropped
something
near
the
school
bus
like
a
ball
or
book.
The
safe
thing
is
for
your
child
to
tell
the
bus
driver
right
away.
B
B
Some
people-
don't
don't
understand
this,
but
parents
also
parents,
please
note
if
you
walk
up
to
the
window,
the
bus
to
say
one
last
goodbye
to
your
child
you're
in
the
danger
zone
and
I've
watched
bus
stops,
the
ones
I
know
most
most
clearly
are
in
apartment
complexes,
where
a
bus
comes
in.
All
of
the
parents
converge
on
the
bus,
they're
right
up
next
to
the
bus
saying
goodbye
to
their
student.
It's
a
very
dangerous
thing
to
do
whether
you're
a
student
or
a
parent.
You
need
to
stay
out
of
that
danger
zone.
This
will.
B
This
will
keep
a
safe
environment
around
the
bus.
The
one
safe
pathway
to
the
bus
is
directly
perpendicular
to
the
service
door
and
again
in
the
larger
diagram.
You
see
that
yellow
arrow
that
says
walking
area
you
walk
out
ten
feet
away
from
the
bus
and
then
go
either
right
or
left,
and
then
the
diagram
in
the
upper
left-hand
corner.
B
Needless
to
say,
distracted,
pedestrians
much
like
distracted
drivers,
increase
the
potential
for
danger.
Please
please,
please
teach
your
students
not
to
be
smartphone
zombies,
walking,
tour
from
or
standing
at
the
bus
stop.
That
would
be
good
advice
for
moms
and
dads.
Also
I
read
just
a
couple
of
days
ago
that
the
state
of
Hawaii
now
is
making
it
a
ticket
able
offense
to
walk
across
an
intersection
doing
what
this
child
is
doing.
It's
so
so
we're
beginning
to
see
actual
laws
that
say
you
shouldn't
be
distracted.
A
Thank
you
so
much
mr.
Douglas.
At
this
point,
we
will
take
a
5-minute
break
to
allow
you
to
reflect
upon
the
presentation
and
to
formulate
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
and
we
will
answer
those
questions
in
order,
a
reminder
to
our
audience.
Questions
posed
and
answers
will
be
given
if
you
feel
that
your
question
was
not
fully
answered,
our
staff
will
be
available
at
the
conclusion
of
the
program
to
provide
a
more
in-depth
response
to
your
question.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
great
now
that
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
reflect
upon
the
presentation
again
a
reminder
we
will
reap
dr.
McMahon
will
read
the
questions
that
are
posed.
Mr.
Douglas
will
provide
an
answer
and
again
it
will
be
a
one-way
at
this
point,
but
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
at
the
conclusion
of
our
presentation
today,
if
there
are
questions
that
were
remain
unanswered
or
if
there
are
personal
questions
in
relationship
to
either
your
school
personally
or
your
child
personally
will
be
certainly
glad
to
continue
to
stay.
A
C
You
mrs.
Jackson,
so
mr.
Douglass
this
first
one
is
a
bit
long,
so
let
me
get
through
it
and
and
give
you
a
chance
to
think
about
it.
I'm
sure.
So
this
is
about
students
who
are
walking
quite
a
distance
from
from
their
homes
to
their
schools,
just
over
the
1.5
miles
right,
so
a
series
of
questions.
So
what
is
considered
a
suitable
walkway
and
what
are
the
safety
issues
that
are
taken
into
consideration
when
determining
that
walkway
and
along
those
same
lines?
C
What
are
the
criteria
that
you
look
at
to
deem
a
path
acceptable
or
not
for
walking?
And
then
what
about
the
areas,
the
residential
areas
that
have
no
sidewalks
or
private
roads?
Poor
lighting,
perhaps
speeding
cars
on
narrow
roads
with
no
sidewalks
and
other
issues.
Really,
the
question
is
all
about:
what's
deemed
acceptable
path,
to
walk
that
one
and
a
half
miles.
B
There
are
a
lot
of
roads,
a
lot
of
residential
roads
in
Anne,
Arundel
County
without
sidewalks,
now
that
that
in
any
community
they'll
have
some
of
that.
But
but
it
seems
to
be
an
issue
with
quite
a
few
communities
in
Anne,
Arundel,
County
and
and
again
I'm
gonna
sort
of
go
here
and
there
before
being
direct
and
answering
the
question.
B
But
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they,
the
County
Transportation
Office,
is
looking
very
seriously
about
adding
sidewalks,
because
because,
obviously
the
sidewalk
is
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
safe
place
to
walk
it's
it's
a
no-brainer!
You
have
a
sidewalk,
you
say
it's
a
safe
place
to
walk
quite
a
few
kids
and
this
this
goes
back
for
years
and
years
and
years
I've
been
in
Anne
Arundel
County
for
three
years,
but
I
worked
in
an
adjacent
County
for
20
years
19
and
was
was
aware
of
that
period
of
time.
B
What
was
going
on
in
Anne,
Arundel
County,
that's
transportation.
Folks,
we
talked
to
each
other
quite
a
bit
and
it
really
is
determined
in
almost
every
County
that
there
are
their
roads
residential
roads
without
sidewalks.
If
the
traffic
is
not
of
an
arterial
kind
of
traffic,
where
you
have
you
know
just
really
really
heavy
traffic
going
through,
it's
determined
that
the
residential
roads
are
safe.
If
kids
are
walking
on
the
road-
and
they
know
other.
B
Issues
say
it's
an
arterial
road
or
whatever,
so
so
we
we
have
quite
a
few
roads
where
kids
are
asked
to
walk
on
the
sidewalk.
Some
of
them
have
cars
parked
on
both
sides,
and
they
have
we've
had
a
very,
very
good
safety
record
with
those.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
situation
where,
where
they're
they're
near
misses
all
the
time,
but
it's
determined
that
those
roads
where,
where
the
traffic
is
light
enough,
are
safe
for
kids
to
walk
along
along
the
road
pathways.
B
There
is
something
very
specific
in
the
regulation
that
says:
if
there's
a
wooded
area,
that's
more
than
three
tenths
of
a
mile
long
that
we
that's
not
considered
to
be
a
safe
area
to
walk.
Now
we
do
have
some.
We
do
have
some
places
where
there's
a
wooded
area
of
1/10
or
or
shorter
or
2/10,
where
you
can
see
the
communities
on
either
side.
B
It's
not
like
you're
you're
out
of
vision
of
a
subdivision
that
that
we
do
ask
kids
to
walk
along,
and
it
has
been
that
way
traditionally
for
many
many
many
years
the
walk
areas
in
the
county
have
been
well
established.
Now,
we've
we've
just
gone
through
a
pretty
extensive
audit
of
all
the
walk
areas,
just
to
make
sure
that
they're
correct
and
we
did
find
a
couple
that
that
are
just
not
not
reflective
of
either
the
half
mile
with
a
mile
of
the
mile
and
a
half
and
that
we've
we've
looked
at.
B
B
Would
be
the
parents
we're
we're
responsible
if
they're
getting
on
a
school
bus,
the
minute
they
walk
on
the
school
bus?
Let
me
let
me
use
a
lifeline
here
if
mister
scheck,
no,
if
a
student's
walking
to
school
the
school's
responsibility
starts
when
they
arrive
on
school
property.
Is
that
correct,
yeah,
so
I
so.
C
This
question
is
a
little
different.
This
is
about
when
a
school
bus
is
late
and
I
know
routinely.
We
don't
like
to
have
a
school
bus
late,
but
occasionally
that
happens
when
a
school
bus
is
possibly
routinely
late.
What's
the
alternative
for
the
parents,
especially
those
parents
that
have
work
to
get
to
right.
B
It
pains
us
when
we
have
late
buses
and
because
of
the
driver,
shortages
and
various
situations
we
have
more
of
those
than
we
want,
where
bus
shows
up
late
as
a
parent,
myself
and
I
have
to
ones
in
college
and
ones
that
go
postgraduate
work,
but
I
still
very
much
remember
when
they
were
young
and
and
those
those
years
are
very
vivid
and
one
of
them
walked
to
school.
The
other
one
actually
caught
the
bus
and.
B
We
we
had
to
make
decisions
sometimes
and
say
we
don't
want
to
standing
out
there
that
long,
we're
gonna
come
by
and
pick
you
up
and
drive
you
to
school.
Sometimes
I
was
convenient
other
times
it's
not
very
convenient
and
we
do
recognize
the
fact
that
when
we
have
a
late
bus,
not
everyone
calls.
But
it's
it
causes
inconvenience.
B
B
B
And
about
notifying
our
office?
Obviously
we
we
get.
We
get
various
types
of
phone
calls.
We
might
get
a
phone
call
10
minutes
after
a
bus
was
supposed
to
be
there
where
we
have
a
crack
at
at
solving
the
problem.
We
also
make
it
calls
5
hours
after
it's
saying
you
know
it
was
very
inconvenient
for
us
and
and
and
obviously
a
call
it's
five
hours
after
the
fact.
B
C
B
B
We
would
look
at
it
if,
if
it's
something
that
we
know
is
going
on
for
six
months
or
a
year
or
whatever
we
get
notification
of
those
prior
to
them
happening,
and
there
have
been
times
when
we
have
added
buses
on
a
short
term
basis
for
for
situations
like
that,
if
it's
pothole
repair
where
they're
there
for
two
days,
it's
it's
difficult,
I
mean
you've,
but
by
the
time
the
the
machinery
of
the
administration
has
found
a
solution
that
the
construction
is
gone.
So
we
really
do
with
them
on
a
base
case
by
case
basis,.
C
C
That
makes
sense,
so
these
view
are
all
about
the
new
software.
Okay
and
basically,
can
you
give
us
a
little
information
about
the
status
of
the
new
software
and
are
there
being
any?
Are
there
any
bus
stops
being
consolidated
this
coming
year
because
of
the
software
and
if
so,
when
might
families
be
notified?
I.
B
Presented
a
presentation
and
I
think
it
was
April
that
that
mentioned
that
we
would
be
consolidating
stops.
Quite
frankly,
as
as
we
as
we
go
into
this
implementation,
we
find
that
certain
portions
of
the
implementation
are
much
more
involved
than
people
recognized,
so
so
that
the
answer
is
we're
we're
not
at
a
point
where
we're
going
to
be
consolidating
a
lot
of
stops
right
now.
B
Let
me
tell
you
what
we're
what
we're
really
working
with
me
now,
because
we
implemented
the
software
for
the
summer
school,
so
we're
actually
using
it
right
now,
and
we
wanted
to
do
it
for
summer
school
prior
to
the
opening,
because,
as
as
hectic
as
summer,
school
opening
is
and-
and
it
is
because
you
have
very
very
little
time
to
prepare
for
it-
the
the
the
students
are
identified
through
May
and
into
June,
and
then
we
have
to
add
them
on
a
bus
by
the
first
week
of
July.
So
it's
it's
a
very
hectic
time.
B
But
what
we're
finding
is,
is
that
and
and
with
we
knew.
This
was
coming
from
the
literature
because
there
are
certain
counties
who
have
implemented
where
they
found
that
the
times
are
so
off
and
we're
finding
that
there
are.
There
are
some
routes
that
the
the
the
computer
is
much
too
optimistic
about
how
much
work
you
can
do
in
a
certain
period
of
time,
but
we
do
have
other
routes
that
are
right
on
now.
This
is
the
program
are
using
and
I've
used.
B
Several
is
one
of
the
more
complex
programs
it's
with
its
robust
power
and
and
and
utility
it's
there
also
some
aspects
of
it
that
are
not
very
user-friendly,
so
staff
really
has
to
has
to
work
at
getting
up
to
speed
and
they
are
and
they're
they're
doing
all
of
the
general
operations
very
well,
but
in
in
any
sophisticated
program
there,
their
tricks
and
and
workarounds
that
you
know
I
work
around
is
a
bad.
It's
it's
a
bad
phrase
for
IT
people.
B
So
let
me
use
something
else:
tricks
and
and
adjustments
that
you
learn
over
time
to
be
able
to
tweak
and
to
make
these
the
rods
better.
The
staff
is
doing
that
right
now.
Our
our
goal,
right
now
in
the
next
six
to
eight
weeks
is,
is
to
move
it
such
a
pace
that
we
get.
We
get
more
of
those
times
correctly,
as
opposed
to
having
a
route
where
the
times
are
off.
So.
B
Know
just
it's
your
first
option,
but
you
know
people
don't
realize
that
between
the
first
day
of
school
and
about
mid-october
we're
making
hundreds
of
changes
and
the
process
the
way
it
should
work
and
and
I'm
not
saying
that
that
there
is
an
a
mistake
here
made
here
they're
in
communication.
But
the
way
it
should
work
is
that
you
identify
what
you're
going
to
do.
B
You
you
identify
or
you
you
contact
the
bus
driver,
the
contractor
notify
them
of
the
change,
and
then
you
notify
the
parents
so
that
they're
not
surprised
by
it
and
that's
that's
the
way
it
should
work
now.
The
the
advantage
to
using
this
software
is
that
for
years
and
years
and
years,
the
staff
at
Millersville
did
everything
by
hand
and
I
am
I'm
here
to
say
that
the
staff
at
Millersville
did
that
as
well
as
anyone.
They
were
their
consummate
professionals
at
routing
buses
at
tearing
buses
and
putting
trips
together
so
that
they're
very
efficient.
B
But
they
work
when
you
don't
have
as
many
kids
as
we
do,
and
over
the
years
and
Roanoke
County
has
grown
and
grown
and
grown,
and
they
have
really
outgrown
the
ability
to
do
that
by
hand.
So,
even
though
the
staff
is
extremely
competent
at
doing
it
by
hand,
the
county
really
has
outgrown
that
process
and,
and
we
really
need
to
move
to
a
more
automated
system,
as
as
we
become
very
fluent
in
using
the
automated
system.
Those
communications
are
going
to
improve,
because
we
also
understand
that.
B
We're
not
satisfied
with
the
way
would
communicate
with
the
public.
We
understand
that
there
are
times
when
it's
not
as
efficient
or
is
not
as
as
effective
as
it
should
be,
and
we're
very,
very
mindful
of
that
and
in
use
in
getting
the
technology
up
to
speed,
we'll
be
able
to
improve
on
how
we
communicate.
Because
really
you
know
you
talk
about
routing
programs,
one
of
their
best
or
one
of
their
biggest
advantages
is,
is
that
we
can
deal
with
data
more
effectively.
B
What
we're
doing
with
the
County,
Transportation,
Office
and
I,
know
I'm
getting
a
little
off
subject,
but
what
we're
doing
with
the
County
Transportation
Office
with
identifying
potential
sidewalks
is
really
incredible
and
we're
being
able
to
give
them
quite
a
bit
of
information.
Countywide,
that's
going
to
be
meaningful
to
where
they
can
target
areas.
That
said,
if
we
put
a
200-yard
sidewalk
right
here,
we
can
affect
400
kids
as
opposed
to
putting
a
200-yard
sidewalk
someplace
else,
where
you're
affecting
to
students
more.
B
C
B
B
The
good
news
is
we're
finding
and-
and
this
can
be
corroborated
with
other
counties.
You
know
the
Montgomery
County
has
found
the
same
thing.
Howard
County
found
the
same
thing
when
I
there,
and
that
is
of
all
of
the
functions
that
you
asked
this
program
to
do.
The
one
that's
done
best
by
human
beings
is
tearing
the
trips
and,
and
one
reason
why
is
because?
Can
you
hear
me
when
I'm
away
from
the
microphone
can
you
can
you
hear
no
stay
here?
Yeah.
B
B
When
a
human
being
tears
buses,
first
of
all,
they
don't
start
from
scratch.
They
don't
throw
of
hang
up
in
the
air
and
then
start
building
again
what
they
do
is
they
go
from
what
worked
the
year
before
and
and
when
it
worked
the
year
before
part
of
it
was
halfway
through
the
year
they
said
ooh.
We
have
a
tight
situation
here.
How
can
we
it's
it's
a
constant,
constant,
constant
adjusting
of
routes,
and
you
may
have
a
student
who
who
has
never
had
a
bus
change
mid-year
and
go?
Oh
I
didn't
know
that
happened.
B
There
are
other.
There
are
other
folks
that
you
know
in
January.
We
notify
them
that
two
weeks
from
now,
you
have
a
different
bus
because
we
community
came
in.
We
need
to
put
twenty
more
kids
on
that
bus,
which
means
we
have
to
juggle
some
other
students
around
and
and
the
staff.
It
is
very,
very
good
at
tweaking
those,
and
then
they
start
the
next
year
by
going
okay,
where
the
holes,
what
can
I
put
in
the
hole?
B
B
The
computer
generates
these
times
and
if
any
two
of
those
trips
overlap
by
as
much
as
a
minute
they'll
say
you
need
another
bus
but
which
it
actually
does.
I
mean
it,
and
we've
been
we've
been
going
through
this
over
the
past
six
months
and
doing
some
of
these
scenarios,
where
we
say
okay,
computer
tell
us
how
these
should
be
tiered
and
the
minute
two
of
those
trips
overlap
by
as
much
as
a
minute
they'll
say:
oh,
you
can't
do
this
with
14
buses.
B
You
need
15
and
and
if
you
check
with
other
transportation
offices,
they'll
all
give
you
the
same
information
now
Baltimore
City
won't
I
was
in
Baltimore
City
last
week
and
part
there
is
there
they're
looking
at
tearing
more
tightly,
they
only
have
three
trips
on
a
bus
instead
of
four
or
five.
The
way
we
do
so
when,
when
you
do
have
large
gaps,
yes,
the
machine
can
fill
in
those
gaps.
B
Excuse
me,
you
have
to
understand
that
we
we
tear
on
the
afternoon
because
that's
where
you
need
the
most
time,
if
you
have
a,
if
you
have
a
50-minute
high
school
run
and
then
a
40-minute
middle
school
run
and
two
20-minute
elementary
school
runs.
What
happens
in
the
morning
is
that
that
high
school,
where
you
need
fifty
minutes,
you
start
earlier
in
the
morning,
you
drop
them
off,
and
then
you
have
a
gap
before
you
take
in
your
middle
school
in
the
afternoon
once
it
starts
rolling
from
that
high
school.
B
It
takes
50
minutes
in
the
afternoon.
If
you
tighten
it
up
by
tearing
on
the
morning
you're
not
going
to
have
time
in
the
afternoon,
it'll
always
get
to
subsequent
schools
late.
So
that's
why
we
tear
on
the
afternoon
instead
of
the
morning
and
then
this
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
study
and
we
we
do
it
ourselves.
I
mean
we.
We
don't
we're
not
blind
to
the
fact
that
they're
their
issues
with
school
start
times
and
one
if
you,
if
you
move
those
times
around
it.
B
It
has
ramifications
where
you
take
your
longest
route,
which
is
a
high
school,
put
it
in
the
middle
of
the
tier
or
at
the
end.
But
well,
let's,
let's
take
the
middle
in
the
middle,
and
you
have
to
account
for
50
minutes
before
the
school
time
and
50
minutes
after
which
means
that
you
can't
pack
them
in
it's
tight.
So
it
isn't.
B
But
let
me
go
back
to
one
point
about
the
good
news
and
bad
news.
The
good
news
is
those
who
were
expecting
a
large
cache
of
efficiency
to
be
found
by
the
tearing
the
bad
news.
Is
it's
not
there.
The
good
news
is
the
staff
has
been
using
their
skills
to
route
those
buses
as
efficiently
as
possible
for
years
and
years
and
years.
So
that's
the
good
news.
B
The
bad
news
is:
there's
not
a
cache
of
efficiency
out
there
to
be
had
now
to
continue
with
that
answer,
I'm
sorry
to
go
on
too
long,
but
the
efficiencies
we
are
going
to
find
will
be
routing
within
the
trips,
not
combining
the
trips
but
routing
within
the
trips
we
will
be
able
to
find
efficiencies.
The
other
thing
is
that
you
can.
You
can
write
a
bus
to
three
schools
and
pack
the
bus
tight,
so
you
have
let's.
B
Let's
say
we
have
50
students
on
three
different
trips
and
the
bus
is
fairly
full,
so
so
that
bus
is
serving
150
kids
a
day.
Okay,
if
you
take
four
trips
at
40,
kids,
you
serving
160
so
sometimes
not
loading.
The
bus
is
tight.
If
you
look
at
the
big
picture
of
how
many
kids
is
this
bus
serving
each
day,
you
can
increase
that
number
by
increasing
the
number
of
trips
and
decreasing
the
number
of
students
on
the
bus.
These
are
complex
issues.
Yes,
sorry.
C
B
They
well,
they
can
I
think
they
just
need
to
do
it
through
the
IEP
process,
we're
downstream
from
the
IEP
process.
It's
the
IEP
team.
That's
going
to
determine
what's
appropriate.
What's
an
appropriate
service
based
on
the
needs
of
the
student,
when
that
IEP
is
then
developed
and
finalized,
then
we
get
our
marching
orders
from
special
ed.
We
people
don't
come
right
to
transportation.
For
those
exceptions
it
has
to
go
through
that
IEP
process
and
then
we
got
our
marching
orders.
B
C
A
So,
first
and
foremost,
thank
you
to
mr.
Douglass
and
tobacco
McMahon
for
your
participation
this
evening
for
the
sake
of
programming,
we're
going
to
at
this
time
conclude
the
formal
portion
of
our
program.
But
we
realize
that
you
have
other
questions
and
you
need
clarification
on
some
of
the
questions
that
you
have
already
answered.
And
so
therefore,
mr.
A
Douglass
and
some
of
our
other
staff
will
be
available
to
answer
your
questions
or
to
provide
clarification,
a
reminder
to
the
public
that
the
video
of
this
evening
will
be
posted
online
and
again,
my
sincerest
thanks
on
behalf
of
dr.
otto
and
the
entire
internal
County
Public
Schools,
and
we
invite
you
to
join
us
next
Tuesday
here
in
the
board
room
at
6
o'clock.
July
17th,
when
our
office
of
safe
and
orderly
schools
will
present
an
overview
of
the
Student
Code
of
Conduct.
Thank
you
and
again
have
a
great
and
safe
evening
and
mr.