Apache Mesos Community Working Group, 18 Dec 2017

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Agenda and Notes:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vgi434dYkkZHs49EK4F4eMmM-3JG4f3qg-N5En-4ubg/edit?usp=sharing

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What's on the agenda so.

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The first thing on the agenda is release improvement listed, who.

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Wrote that I.

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Think maybe we wrote it last time. Somebody had something to say about it: Clark.

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Was no discussion about that's a process Laurel yeah.

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I think it was just about like really Shepherd and who, whether that works very good um Ben. Do you remember, were you here last meeting? Do you know what this was about.

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No I, don't all.

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Right, let's skip it and wait for Greg, because I think he probably so. The next thing is the Apache cable project, which I think. Then you sent out an email to the list saying we should sign up for it, um I'm not sure how to sign us up, but it looks really cool. It's basically a project that collects metrics about open source projects. Yes, when.

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I looked at that it wasn't that useful I felt like I mean the page. Look weari, not even shiny I, mean look pretty I, guess pretty basic and I, don't know if it was giving any metrics that we heard all the already colored things. I didn't find it like that useful, but maybe I was looking at a count or something that can you open up that real, quick yeah.

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So it just has this.

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You think that ghast account it's just a cable, not relying on yeah.

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I look at brief.

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People at 10, 15 minutes are then find it really exciting, but maybe they're still in it. Yes,.

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I think what they're doing is they're looking for projects to help them decide what metrics they should be. Collecting yeah.

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Like this one, like I, think if you go to views.

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Maybe we should screen share this yeah.

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Mean I'm looking at it too, but I don't really know where to look, because it's not really seeing any yeah.

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It wasn't very good. Even data points maybe like here.

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Are you looking at ice cream on.

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My trans language breakdown tops like contributors. Let me taste me all the stuffing it from github.

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Is it that you know what yeah.

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I mean this stuff is like it's.

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But even the things that they're looking at that you don't already get from github, for example, so yeah this I.

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Mean this is across projects, I, guess right, yeah! It's wonder what happens when you take into one particular. Yes,.

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And the same thing yeah: well, what are the views you selectively here to use is that.

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Language breakdown top five time. It is yeah.

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Yeah I was hoping they collected everything from mailing list, slack like IRC conversations and trivia board and got all of them at one place. But this looks pretty just looking at the ball looks like.

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Looks like issue tracker is this here.

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So it looks like it's breaking them down into different and.

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It has not a reward matrix.

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Issue so they are mailing list issue, yeah Sally could start against them. They have JIRA and a mailing list and they have yet yeah.

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Maybe we can ask them to see if they can I'd like review board stats as well or even review. Both stats will be nice, okay, cool, so maybe can email them and add anything. We need to change I just tell them.

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They said just they said, join the email list and there's already kinda yeah I think on the email they sent out. They said like join the list and then Oh Harry.

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Yeah join the list and let us know if your project is interested in joining a demo, so I can easily do that. But then, if they want me to give them any information about having.

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Yeah I mean it sounds like they want suggestions on what yeah.

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I do want to actually probably make is like what stats.

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Anything else I can think of man I.

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Mean I, don't know the a lot of these individual things, provide stats like JIRA and get via github, but.

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The things that don't provide stats, it's nice to have something like I, don't know how to look at mailing list stats or review word stats or yes,.

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Google Groups: that's a leak impossible to find like.

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Google Groups yeah I guess, but they have mailing list ads for us yeah, it's like. So that's good. There.

C

They exist somewhere because I, remember people showing me some graph or something but I, don't know where it is. There's also the slack stats which are I mean hosted by slack independently right. Some. Some people have access to it. Yeah.

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Yeah but it's not comprehensive. Okay, I get one because I'm Redmond, but it's like basic.

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Need to pay for the stats yeah.

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I feel like the problem with these things is you kind of need to know a dashboard is nice, but you kind of want to know what specifically you're interested in measuring and might need to write your own queries and stuff to figure that out, like these things, aren't gonna understand that we have a contributors file that says which companies people work for during which time frames and things like that.

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That kubernetes well, it might be CN CF, published some stats thing that they had mm-hm.

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Like some website, where, for each kubernetes or each CN CF project, you can see like which companies are driving the contributions and stuff like that, I, don't know how they're doing that, but I assume it's like metadata's, and because this is a format or something I, don't know.

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Yeah, okay, so you do do under the children. If they ask information again, yeah perfect.

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Then you had stuff about blog posts.

C

Yeah I would love to get just some logistical help to just kind of I guess manage like a regular cadence of blog posts and just encouraging people to to write them. So.

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How you send experience writing that blog post, that you wrote about performance.

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It's good I mean: what do you mean.

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Did you get any help I.

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Got some some help from focused on just proofreading? It.

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But I think if we're gonna restore of a regular cadence of blog post, we probably want to also just make sure that the, for example like if we write a technical blog post. We probably just want to make sure that it's sound right and it's not sloppy or things like that.

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Just so that you know we're showcasing that we're we're a technically competent project and things like that right.

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Yeah I, just I feel like we've done a not so good. We've done a really terrible job at this and I. Think myself, at least I was kind of you know in this denial mode of oh well. Our tech is so good that people should just recognize it right, but that that's not how the world works, and we really have to do. Pr I mean even myself right. I'll see you like, oh wow, the rest community is doing interesting. Stuff I know that other projects are doing just as interesting stuff and.

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Not writing about it, but just from the fact that I see it talked about I feel you know biases myself, even though I'm kind of aware of this right so I'd like to try to change this and- and you know, do this more regularly.

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And do is that I guess well.

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I mean I, guess that depends on what the blocker is like. Do you think that people aren't motivated to do it or do you think that they just like, haven't really thought of it or they could use because, like what Ben mentioned was just logistical help, which I could definitely help with just like hey but.

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I guess some people, for example, or not, for example, writing.

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So they probably want some writer to help them and they're, probably yeah.

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The editing Montag move on once the structure is laid out by someone. Maybe that will make it easy. So one.

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Of the things that we can produce, Els is well like interview. People recorded on zoom and I can write up the interview and then just run it by the person. I interviewed and say, like hey, is this all correct for.

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Interview style of the dreaded with G and stuff, but for more like technical blog posts, we need to figure out I.

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Think I mean I think if you look at what people have done for features in the past, they've often already created a talk or some slides that they've shown it a meet up or something like that, and that content is fairly easily translatable into a blog post and so I feel, like the people would make the effort of doing this. If they were asked, you know or encouraged to do it. It's just. We haven't made any blog post for a very long time and we've instead been giving talks and things like that.

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That's kind of the main reason that's not happening and I feel like if we just do a good job like keeping an eye on why people are building when it's getting released and what might be interesting things to blog about. We can kind of courage. People in.

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Yes, lights and stuff there, so there's a forcing function right that there's a conference and you need to submit to get accepted, yeah go and give a talk for I guess for blog there's! No such forcing function. I mean we. We are having our women. Hang people write user Docs about you, not even writing.

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So how do we incentivize people to write them because they're already needed writing technical stuff and then, finally, to finish it and there's a move on, take a break and come back and do something else, and they don't really feel like it's a lot more work to spend on writing a blog unless it is like I.

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Mean I I think it's an opportunity for them to showcase their work right for one thing, which is good for them. It's good for their career and I think that's something that was kind of hopefully self motivating for people. But culturally we were trying to have people write those user, docs right we're trying to have that be part of a project yeah. You have to do that before you wrap it up. Yeah.

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Something like should we have I guess more, for example, should we have something like a blog athon.

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I mean it, it might be good to generate ideas with something like that, but I think for the blog I personally would just rather see kind of like a regular cadence I wouldn't want a blog say, ten things yeah.

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Once we once we have, we can spread them out and especially forcing functions for people to I should say, and how do we incentivize them to do? I think, for example, if if for documentation, team atmosphere or or blog wedding team here comes and works with them to write most of the stuff, and they just provide technical details to them, that's probably easier because they're, probably more comfortable, just saying hey, this is the layout. This is a structure. Can you fill in the proto?

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Can you fill in the code snippets and stuff like that, and can you work with me to to style it? That's probably easier. I would imagine most engineers.

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To a story to tell, and all that I mean.

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I don't know if you're gonna get a good technical, blog post out of that personally, but that sounds like that's.

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Like a start, I mean you should at least frame give them a structure. I'll.

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Give you my experience in the performance working group if.

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Don't if I don't ask anyone to do anything mmm-hmm.

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Not maybe, unsurprisingly, nothing, nothing really was getting done, but what I was like? Hey guys, there's a meeting next week, I'd really like to wrap these three things up and like Dimitri. Can you finish this for next week and and so on?

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People were people were kind of picking up the work and doing it I feel, like part of it, it's just kind of giving some structure to people and and organizing them a little bit. You know yeah.

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So I mean I think that this could happen in steps right like we could just make the ask say like hey, we think it would be awesome like you've, been you already put suggestions of who could write what?

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So we should ask those people to write those things and ask what we can do to help and then, if they have things that they say, they need help with we'll help them and then, if it doesn't get done, we can start thinking about trying to incentivize people in other ways, but um I mean I, think making the app might get some people to write blogs and then the people who really have strong hesitations. We can give them a little more support or incentive.

C

Sure look Vinod. You just gave a talk right on domains. I would hope that having given that it's not at large a large leap to think about how to write a technical, blog, post form ASOS for the mesas blog kind of highlighting it provides.

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You some of that content, which is a content for me, so that way a little easier, yeah and I. Guess it just terms of time as well like how much time can I.

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Time, yes, have to make time.

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Least, for the demo the forcing function was we had to do a demo for the government.

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One of her customers right so that was the forcing function and had help from couple.

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Folks, here for.

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The company to try to write the scripts and I was just can directing them on helping them on how to write them on stuff. I was, for example, doing it and doing myself so I guess.

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Similarly, for blog I.

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Would see if I can get help, someone writing it and I will.

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Help them correct.

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That and frame it and stuff or maybe half.

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Time I can do it myself just.

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Question of time, and what kind of help I get in someone to either writing a blog post on it takes like a.

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You know what kind of incentives do you think, like aside from having a blog upon where people just sit down and bang one out what other kinds of incentives do you think would help people like? Do you think people would be incentive if we paid them for blog posts like doing sending.

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Be good for sure I mean some kind of recognition. I feel like for conferences. Talks, instructors, recognition there. Thank you. There's.

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On the website.

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There videos out on YouTube and stuff for it and people can you likes and comments and stuff like that, and then you get to tweet it and stuff like that, and maybe we to more of that publicity.

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We have commenting function on the blog now or liking. No.

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Example of a good thing to have our like our blog page is a very very good thing. Passing is to kind of make it more appealing.

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Do we get metrics on the readership of the website or the blogs like? Could we say, like hey a hundred people read your blog or like hey.

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Can you see it like in terms of the blog sub page, how many people have access and stuff like that yeah.

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I'm sure you can but like.

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A medium or something I, don't know like to be more that.

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Would be trendy yeah.

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I mean that one has like metrics right on there, I'd like claps or clicks, or whatever share mmediately to a hacker news, for example, and stuff like that, like all of that modern blog functionality with honor is like basically well formatted page, that's it it's not a live blog, so I think if you make it more, like blog good family, like how those metrics have people ability to comment and stuff like that, I think we should all think about the basics, how to make it appealing for both writers and readers. Yeah.

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The kubernetes blogpost I guess later they end up going. Do they end up going on like, for example, Google's website or something or do you know, I, don't.

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Let's see looks.

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Like looks like, there were 326 views of the blog post, nice.

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That's great, which one the performance, one yeah.

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That's really cool yeah.

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And there's no way for us to show legs yeah.

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Kind of burying like no, neither writer knows it, may not. The readers know it.

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Base 20 of comments either RSS.

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Feed subscribe.

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Proper blogger for a year, yeah.

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I, don't know I wouldn't I. If we were gonna move to a different format, I would definitely like to do medium or something that's more managed. Yeah like already built I, don't know what the approval process is like on medium or, if you just have to give your blog, which isn't that yummy posted for you it it.

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Used to be like anyone can post it, but I think they changed it recently to be subscription or something I, don't know what it is, but most blogs that I read these days are on. Video seems to be like where most unit technical blog posts are being written, so I think we should try to click into it like just like you move the slack. Doesn't that help quite a bit in terms of conversation, I think we should try to figure out modern ways to engage I will.

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Look into medium.

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Children migrate all our old blog posts to that or right.

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Yeah, we should probably will see how easy that is. Yeah.

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I guess one thing that might be unfortunate is breaking links for people, but maybe that's not a big problem. I.

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Keep doing all the.

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I can maybe keep the old ones and then new ones who put there and say that block what has mold or whatever, at the top and our blog page something yeah I think you should probably evaluate that. I think that would be something that will be really cool, I. Think that will definitely incentivize people to write.

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Looks like Bloggie.

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Yeah regarding the particular that you had for me, yeah I, think I'd love to have some blog post written preserves, half time how the question um there's another thing that we didn't add here, which is a blog post about the agent recovery like agent, reconfiguration that reason recently added and maybe can ask denno to write that one been on me together.

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That would be cool one right and first thing: I want this to write our user duck yeah.

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That's been my big concern about it. Actually is that I don't want people to me. I would rather have dogs and blogs yeah.

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I mean a man for.

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The biggest one is a user duck, I mean in terms of other than the code documentation and just the APA documentation. I think the biggest issue is er, Doc's and sometimes really hard for me to figure out what should we go and use what should go in a blog, yeah.

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Probably, probably don't want a blog before the user, toxic air yeah.

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Looking for in it like.

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Blog is more like a story, but even the user duck is also kind of yeah. I mean for me, is I came I, did the slavery, Tory blogposts back in the day, and you know or it go in the user dark what should go in the blog first, like a lot.

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Of overlapping.

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Content there and like the phrasing of a dozen different blog, is like.

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Point to each other, so I would love to have blogs on all these things. That kind of give the higher level design of the feature like the architecture of it. The thought behind it, you use case and then say like if you want to learn more about this feature, go to the docs and then you see like all of the like. How do you use it step by step.

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Yeah I think the important thing to communicate to people, though about this is just that, like we've got to do more of our own PR for the project yeah.

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If we don't, it's really I mean it's really hurting us that we're not yeah.

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Like it just has to, we have to make it happen,.

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So I'm gonna look into.

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Medium and I'm also gonna look into getting the people on this list. You know unless you guys cuz a lot of these people. I. Don't really know that. Well, like alia, I, don't know this identity, I know I, know I, don't know. So do you guys want to reach out to people.

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I was trying to pick a specific one to focus on and I was thinking. Maybe the partition aware stuff just because auroria has just implemented stuff for it, and marathon already has stuff for it, and helium might be able to write that or or co-author it I think, might.

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A little easier yeah.

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I also picked it because I thought it was a cool piece of tech that I don't think I'm, actually not sure if other projects have implemented that yet maybe they have now. But we certainly did it quite a ways ahead of yeah.

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The project's yeah.

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Well and I think that the advantage of having done it quite aways ahead of other projects, is like we've got our bugs worked out and other projects might not which, like you know, I, think a lot of the time we talk about like oh, my soz has been around for a long time, but we're not really explicit about like how that translates into.

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Like maturity, yeah, so yeah I think that would be a great one to start with. um So it looks like Ilya did comment on this. He.

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Said he can call out quickly? Okay,.

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So what do you guys need for the next steps time? Okay, um what else lucky? What can I do for you.

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I guess, for example, if you figure out the medium stuff, I'd be really excited to was there as a forcing function for me to try out a new new thing. That'll push me sure.

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Do you know what Ilyas hesitation was with writing me because it sounds like he was like? Oh I, don't know. Maybe we should call.

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I, don't think he has as much context and background okay I. Don't he doesn't know the history around and.

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Yeah I mean I would hope that this could be written kind of independently of the medium transition. Just because that's kind of yeah.

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I mean if we're getting high readership on the on the blog that we have now I would say that the transitions in a platform is really secondary. If people are already seeing the blog's that are going up there, um you know like they don't.

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Know I just I, just wouldn't Roenick.

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Want to block it on that in case that that is more difficult than we anticipate yeah yeah.

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Yeah, it's talking about forcing one kiss for me.

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Yeah I'll have to make time for that.

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Anything else about this is there a second vlog that we should get, because in my experience, what happens is you approach somebody about a blog and they're like yeah? This should happen. It should totally happen and then it gets bogged down. Yeah.

C

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It's time you kind of don't come out with a good cadence that too early.

C

Yeah I think I think a second one is maybe Kevin's GPU stuff he's got a lot of content in ease.

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I think yeah I think he'll make the time to write something up. Maybe.

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Oh, you already said it: it's just not.

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Is something we.

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Added back and I think one dot, oh, but we could maybe say that accordingly right, like we're just we're highlighting something that was built, yeah back then, or something like that. Mm-Hm.

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And I think Kevin can highlight a lot of the stuff that he's been able to build on top of it like the tensorflow yeah.

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And I also have already blogs on the mesosphere blog about this stuff, and so um there's probably he can probably just take content from what he's already written and adapted for a Mesa yeah.

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But yeah I mean I would love for people to think of other other posts. This is just kind of a list that I came up with in a few minutes. Yeah.

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um Was there like I, didn't understand this technically at all? That was their move. Support that we wanted to talk about. Everybody was really excited about that.

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You talked about it in the performance blog a little bit, yeah.

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Think, that's probably fine. What I was maybe gonna do is highlight to the devilís that they can start using this stuff Wow.

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I, don't know if it's it's more I think telling our developers that they can use it than being a blog post, Wow.

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Like we didn't really innovate, they're.

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Cool nothing else.

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I mean one thing we could do is just maybe ask the dev list if they have other blog post ideas or figure out a way to kind of crowdsource. The ideas here, mm-hmm.

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Yeah send that email. Do you understand that one man sure.

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I guess I point them to this yeah.

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For more blogs, interesting writing, Plus reach out to us yeah and we'll help you I can.

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Good nice to get from the community for sure yeah.

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I can kind of give the context to why this is important and yeah.

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Yeah, hopefully,.

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That helps warm.

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That was all of our topics. Exactly we're not gonna get great to talk about.

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I'm just gonna look over last week's notes to make sure that.

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Not missing any or last times no scripts for evaluating the award.

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Is all something we haven't asked? The kibble came right about tell you Boyd.

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Yeah yeah yeah, but I think this um there's.

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Something dental scripts that are dumb had that I was trying to find no dinos yeah.

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I think right found them, but and only that I think we were trying to figure out like.

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A more meaningful way the doctor phone is coming out sign.

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Up for that, looking, oh.

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We have a you know: free, okay,.

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Meetup event and we got.

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12 people so far.

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So we've got 12 people so far. We were gonna identify easy faces in the docs so that you forget to come in and work on. It.

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So that was our like kind of next step, but I hadn't gotten around to doing that, and we didn't really make plan for how we're gonna ID those new fixes or easy fixes other than put them in the agenda, so I would um yeah. So we still I guess need to go identify those as best we can.

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Easy tweaks for new contributors link to new binaries and download pages move the roadmap from repeated Docs. um Those aren't super easy, but.

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Yeah, so we're gonna need more more easy fixes bit. Okay,.

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Do we need many, do you think.

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I can also read through.

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And just like fine English in clarity's, it could just use easy rewording and that expenditure.

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For example, oh.

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I mean I I, just thought of one and the the b1 operator, API Docs I think it might be useful to turn the existing examples at the curl command. We.

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Had it in the last bucket on yeah.

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Existing operators existing.

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Examples into cronuts yeah that would be pretty straightforward.

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I will go through and just find some things that are oddly worded I'm sure there must be some.

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Cool so I think that's fine.

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And I'm gonna email users at D cos heyo.

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The release blog I need or for the Dilbert on he didn't reach out to me so Holly.

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Golightly's hasn't happened yet so yeah.

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That happens in Polish man. He, oh, is.

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He gonna do it after the release not like at least.

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Yeah I mean you've.

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Probably swamped.

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With the release, I can imagine Millie it's time to blog about it now, but.

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Swamped but yeah it'll take some time to yeah.

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Newsletter run out.

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Yes, send an email, yeah yeah, we I guess we could tweet about it to something. I didn't do.

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But we could write more tweets about.

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It um so we're gonna, do the organ yeah.

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But actually now that you're here, maybe 8 I, don't think any of the rest of them are very pressing um now that you're here, maybe without further release stuff cause I, think you added something to it under this time. Without a doubt, police improvement process, I think you added it and we wanted.

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If you have what it was.

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Vinod, there's something: let's see what was I thinking, yeah I think we were yeah I think we were just wanting to continue to inspect our review process. The way that we even.

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These classes I'm sorry release process in the.

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We release how we decide when to cut, because I think that you know our current one is behind schedule according to time based so.

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Think that was the intention of those action items yeah.

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Yeah I think that's probably met it's a longer discussion. We.

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Should probably talk.

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About it in the next one, exam self, like time-based releases and feature based click order, the rules of engagement um yeah, how we do it I think we had some discussion before one setting in the developer community sink, but don't think we had any concrete things that came out that people are following things. People still say a bit of doing it without in the proper, like formal rules around what the block or what should not.

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Be blocker when to cut.

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It and not a cut it and stuff like that. Alex was going to send an email if I remember correctly about that was harassing he circular on to do that either destructor with some other stuff yeah escape our sample, email.

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So yeah I think probably worth discussing and one of the meetings for sure or maybe even the commuters meeting. If not this one I am not fit to plan that everyone agrees for complete agreement.

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Hasta que digo and and for some things, yeah.

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Because I think we can, as we have before, we continue to delay releases to get in features that we really want. So.

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I feel like the question.

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Is is that acceptable, I think.

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That would be discussion, I. Think most people aren't really super I mean it happens on the list, but I don't think those people are really followed their release process yeah.

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I think it's the communit, it's good to get community input yeah to know if the current process is working for people, but I write in terms of the actual discussion process.

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In the training.

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Do we have any action item plan of that I think.

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You should discuss not going to come in quarters, everything I think and then I'll come back to this one to time. Once we have a proposal there, we should come back and see.

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Do we have anything else to talk about well,.

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Soon, now that we sometimes the first newsletter anything about the next one and so I'll definitely talk.

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Release it should be at that point, but I think I'd like to highlight a particular area of things we've been working on my the first thing that came into my mind was the chat with Gilbert about containerization efforts exactly like a lot of improvements of going in there. So I wanted to see what you guys thought about that Q&A yeah.

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Maybe an interview, or maybe just.

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Talk to them and write something yeah. What.

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Think of the interview format. Should we do that.

A

Told me that it interview blog posts, don't get as many beers like reading them all the way through. It's.

C

A

Synthesis so when she suggested doing is conducting the interview and then instead of typing it up in interview format, you type it up as like a kind of a story. Yeah.

F

Yeah and then like quote them here and there exactly.

B

Is there something they can get help with like once we do the interview yeah.

A

If you want me to interview him and record it, I could watch it and write it up.

D

F

And yeah and I will try to get some austin blast out some emails to committers.

G

B

C

The boundary between newsletter and blog posts is kind unclear to me like do we want to do a blog post about an agent reconfiguration and then highlight it in the newsletter yeah like.

B

Yes, newsletters.

C

Like hey, there's been a release: there's these blog posts uh that sort of thing ok, yeah,.

F

What's happening.

C

F

Seems like the newsletter constitutes the email and then that references, a blog yeah.

C

I mean I feel like maybe the newsletter is kind of just helping people keep up with the project right these. You can read more about them here. I'm just curious.

B

Probably but there's a thing works in progress, for example, that we wandered into all community that has been completed.

G

Going ok conference coming up mixes these these.

C

Newsletters themselves shouldn't people understand right or I, don't.

A

B

F

I mean they could be email, yeah.

F

C

I feel like if I was a community member, what I would get out of it. It's just it helps me keep up with keep up with. What's going on, it's kind of hard to to do that right now, yeah.

A

A

Yeah I wonder if we should point people to you know what we could do is make a series of tweets out of each newsletter point, so we could say like Oh, doc, Tom's coming up or like oh we're.

C

Looking for help on this project and.

A

Just play to the game every mile or so then each bullet point would be like a tweet, and that would give more exposure. Yeah.

B

How's our tweets: how are they do, how.

A

Do they do I, don't know, Mises has a huge Twitter following, but when.

B

Our tweets them songs I feel like they don't get that many likes or retweets or replies.

C

I mean look, I looked at my activity, tab after that blog post it it's pretty. It seems pretty good like I doubt it's the same level as another project, but.

A

I'm, not we just new Twitter platforms, I'm, not really sure.

A

C

A

Twitter, better I didn't.

B

Really know, there's analytics there.

A

Is analytics in the luminary.

B

A

B

They just in terms of the likes and consonants, don't like views. You probably can't see their like if you just.

B

But then you're saying in your notification, you got stuff and that's because you got CCD on the Twitter. We.

A

Retweeted it we retweeted one of them streets once from.

B

A

Guy too late, it's got one retweeting six likes. These are the later tweets right excited like wrote, a bunch of tweets about each one of them, so the earlier ones got more reactions, cause more people. So.

B

For this was the first one right.

A

B

Like consecutive.

A

Days so this one got ten heart, someone retweet, that some got five hearts and for retweeting but they're all it's like. Basically, oh ten, retweets and 25 hearts for for.

B

A

Over 3.0, initially.

B

Some latex way.

A

Late clicks, 41 likes 25, retweets, 10, detail, expands, turn profile, click, 6 and replies 1.

E

A

That's pretty okay,.

A

C

Mean it tells me impressions 2,400, total engagements 195 link, clicks 88, nice.

C

Retweets 13 likes 12 I, think a lot of people don't interact with it. Mm-Hmm or even they'll, go to the blog they just kind of read in and that's it they don't necessarily come back and like it, you know, yeah.

B

What if they didn't question itself like people reading, it shows high number? That's probably good hundred people ready, that's probably yeah.

A

I don't know I might like to see higher numbers just because me, so it has such high weight.

B

A

Thousand followers like.

F

A

F

A

F

Prototype and performance that I think.

A

F

A

This guy liked was because we just gave people a piece of information right away and people like information and.

F

They don't like.

A

F

Yeah and it's like an interesting technical read so engineers are interested and just like want to want to read about it. I feel yeah.

A

Calvin, it.

F

Feels like tweets are going up pretty often actually.

A

I've been trying to schedule more, but there's not a lot of content that I've been so.

F

It's kind of repeat.

A

Like a lot of repeated content yeah, and we can.

F

Spend a few months like just trying to get more content going out and advertising it on Twitter I bet we can get those numbers yeah.

A

I think if they're no more technical blog posts, it would be. You know people would get used to going to Twitter it'll find that little get the visit traffic going a little bit better, but yeah.

E

A

Got it surrounding the tweet from that account.

A

Yeah we should yeah.

F

I'll see ya.

B

Start writing what people to engage my.

F

B

Isn't maybe motor medium.

F

Our site, so people might in Canada rather.

B

Smaller Bloggie.

B

Try some traffic.

C

Will you have time to look into that or like miss.

B

C

That gonna happen. I guess is my question. Yeah time, I I.

A

Will look into it yeah before our next meeting I'll definitely look into it. um I can't guarantee that it's gonna happen, rhythmic beeping, but they.

C

A

See what it would take to do it yeah Cory.

B

So you don't think your time anyway, okay.