Apache Mesos Containerization Working Group, 8 Feb 2018

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Notes for the working group: https://docs.google.com/a/mesosphere.io/document/d/1z55a7tLZFoRWVuUxz1FZwgxkHeugtc2nHR89skFXSpU/edit?usp=drive_web

A

All right: let's wait for 2 min two more minutes and then Kai started.

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A

Okay, um I think, let's get started since we have a bunch of stuff to do today. So so the agenda today is trying to oh by the way, can you guys hear me hello, hello, yes, okay, cool yeah, so, okay, so the Jenna today is trying to do a grooming on all the container related bugs um juror Wilbur create this filter, which has 94 unresolved book that has either component containerization container Iser or context like relevant label.

A

So I think I go to the is trying to do a triage on that and instead and close whatever. We think it's not relevant anymore and and then make sure that's properly groomed so that we can start working on those things, because I don't think we spend too much time on looking on those books as people reporting those books and it'll be nice to to get a sense. How many bugs we have and what's the priority of fixing those books.

A

Besides that anything else that you guys wants to discuss. I think Andre mentioned that that you wants to discuss some of the arms, the the composing container, riser improvement, stuff so Andrew before we go to the the goonies part like. If you want to talk about that, that would be great. If not, we can move to the next time. If you think, when do you think it's ready to to present it's up to you.

B

A

Okay, maybe move to next time once you have a like a more concrete proposal so that we can reviewing this meeting.

B

C

B

A

Okay sounds good, um okay, so then, let's just do the triarii right now, this time, okay, I'm gonna, just go by one by one, so I know this one mom DevOps I, think James peach just opened that one.

A

Yeah, so that's a real issue, I think he's working on that prepare mountain mesas, containerize er is flaky, so Cheney opened this.

C

Yeah I think you saw this like you, try to do this and we haven't figured.

A

Out, oh yes, yet.

C

A

I think we know the root cause, but we don't know the solution. Yeah.

C

Because there's a note on ik way to do.

C

D

What's the root cause of that one, can you explain briefly? Yes,.

A

The root cause for this one is so there is a race between so basically what we do is we scan the round table and mark each mount in the mountain table as a slave mount, but there's a race. It's like time to check time to use race for once you do the scanning and then and for each of those mount entry trying to mark them.

A

It's possible that when the time doing the mark, the mount entry is gone already and then, if you, if, if the mount entry is gone when you're doing the mark, you will see this error invalid argument, because the mount system call cannot find the target anymore because unmount it by someone else. So we will see this error. It used it's not an issue previously, because we do. We do mark that the slash the route has recursively slave and the kernel handle that, but things we need to support is mount propagations of.

A

We cannot do this recursively marking the route as slave. We have to do that one by one, because some of the mounts might be shared and then does this issue. Is that clear? Ok, it's like yeah.

D

A

To time to check time to use bug, yeah.

D

So does it make sense in that so like in the one, so this happens in the launch path when we prepare mounts, and so are we failing like? Does the launch fail in that case, then? Yes,.

A

The launch fails in that case. It's so yeah I think like the unmount can be something that the assistant administrator or some other container, that that control the host mount table is doing nice. It's not some system administrator, just a mountain mount entries. It's.

D

So it sounds like it's a spurious launch. Failure like the lot should succeed in that case, right.

A

Yeah I think it should be par is that the system called don't give you a special error code when the mount target is no exists, but.

D

Does that make sense, so we scan the mount table mm-hmm attempt to mark it as a slave? Does it make sense if that fails the first time just to check if the mount exists one more time and if it doesn't, we have a sitting this race, yeah.

A

That's a good idea, that's a mitigation that we can do for sure. That's a good idea, yeah, okay, Kay I, actually dragged. Can you comment on this ticket yeah.

D

A

Sure ah so yeah doesn't think that we can do um that's a good idea, although it didn't like completely eliminate the issue, but I think it will mitigate the issue. Sure I'll comment on the chicken sounds good all right, so this one we're gonna fix that yeah I can't send our patch for this one I, don't know how to fake yeah anyway, I'm doing some cleanup there. So I might just take what what Gregg suggested okay. So this one is a lot sounds like a real bug.

A

All curved parameter name does not work with docker container Arizer yeah by the way, I always to myself.

A

Yeah I know this one, it's very unfortunate that since we love this darker parameters and if someone say hey I launched a talker can hey. This is marathon I think if they specify a parameter called like name that will override the name of the docker container, but the may I think the Mesa stalker integration, assuming that the mesas will generate a darker container name rather than asking user to specify that and user override that and will cause the issues, because mazes can no longer find that docker container anymore.

A

So that sounds like a pretty bad thing that we should add a validation, yeah, I think so Gilbert any plan to fix that I think this is something that would fix. Otherwise they were called like very hard to chew. Ag issues, Oh.

A

Goober is not online.

A

Okay, I'm gonna, just assigned to it over I think this, something that should fix.

E

Once do you want to mark them as accepted yeah.

A

That's testicle area I.

E

Think there's a related bug here that I think I was talking to Chan the other day, which was. We also should not allow our restart policy I, don't know if you file a ticket for that or not, but there is a policy in docker where you can say restart, always.

F

E

That as a docker parameter that screws up our docker container and docker exacta semantics, so we should disallow that one too okay.

A

I think he asked Chen to create secure for our yeah.

E

A

I haven't seen that secure, I remembered that discussion somewhere, okay anyway, so I just assigned to Gilbert and I, think we should fix that one. That sounds pretty bad.

A

It's a simple fix this one Andre!

A

Okay! So it's that sounds like it's reviewable. It sounds. Okay, it's been taken care of check, failure.

A

If trying to recover NASA contemporary mature Pony is not enabled.

A

You mean stirs no slave state checkpoint, but continuous reach a point in the runtime dirt. That means for Korean desiccant would cause a chip failure.

A

And you remember, like I, think this is kind of related to.

C

I mean this really.

F

Impacts change, no item.

C

F

You guys talk about the the this fermentation frog issue, yeah, so so, what's that I mean yes, sorry I was just chopped right because never issues so this one. So if we, if people like I, think this is, we need to add a check. It is a big behavior issues. If people like the user does not enable the the check pointing from the penguin info nah, we should at least have the check to avoid this. This chapter, ABA and.

A

Yeah I see so there's that's just like adding a validation somewhere yeah.

F

A

Okay and and this behavior is expected, yeah Rama don't enable okay, yeah, okay, okay, that sounds like how do you have cycle by the way I think I sign one ticket to you, which is the darker containerized name, thing that which approach at a validation I think that's pretty critical, that which is fixed at any of annotation. This.

E

A

You have psycho flow for either finding someone to to work on this or you can work on that. I can work on this book, but I need Shepherd. Okay, yeah I can't Shepherd that one yeah but I think this is not like a super hot party, stuff, I'll, Marcus minor part. I! Go you talk about that later.

A

It's nervous because I think it's very uncommon that people turn off this very much appointing stuff, yeah, okay, external water, yeah, this one- yes, I, know this one, so external volume right now, basically like, even if you have a friend P users, that's you fool, but we don't that the volume created by that is still owned by roots will never change owner of that. So so that calls the issues you've, someone long to task using like nobody or some ran user. It's this one on the earliest reader.

A

When he's you know, this is like especially to talk about in isolator yeah.

F

But in his in so he could kaput JIRA stuck together, which has the same issue with the permission yeah. It involves a couple isolator, including the landings Linux file system, isolated and some others.

A

Yeah but I think we should have a quick fix for that. One I think that's kind of we have some like metal sphere. Has this request to fix that I think that we should fix that one.

A

Yeah, temporary, just I think we should accept this one yeah I, probably like writing some patch for this, because I think it's affecting us the the external support yeah. You can also decide to be if you don't have cycle, but.

F

A

Should be a sinkhole change and just should we change the priority if you think that's important for laces no yeah, it's important for mesosphere, but I. Don't think it's important for like that. The homemakers projects, which just keep the major thing just one I, had a no enforced isolation option.

A

So changed is that a bug.

G

Or a feature that would be a feature so I guess various Isolators are able to do. You know enforce, but when you do that, you have to do it in each isolate individually with a specific flag for that specific isolator. The idea here was to support it. As you know, a feature of the meat sauce container Iser, so it would go. Oh basically, the container Iser would get the enforcement limitation from the isolator. We go well you're in no enforce mode, so you don't worry about it. I see.

A

I see got it's okay right then, like one flapper I should have a unifier fly for that exactly: okay, yeah, okay,.

B

A

Yeah, okay, all right! So let's move for it's not a bug, except that one document.

D

A mess are you thinking that that would replace this the per isolator flag or add to it.

G

I guess it would replace it if you I mean if you were able to if they flag did no enforce, was able to specify a list of Isolators, then I think I. Don't think you need a pure isolator flagon.

D

Yeah, so you supply a list of Isolators to that place. That makes sense.

G

D

A

Let's move forward have a lot of one like document. That sounds like another bug.

A

Known as the contain HCL's are documented. Yes, that's true: do we have the documentation? Oh yeah I. Think we haven't? Okay, that's the documentation.

A

You yeah that sounds like.

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And names for my.

A

Yeah so Jane so James this one I, look at darker I. Also look at one thread that they discussed this inside talker and the conclusion they came up with is not you used to have temper fest for slash tab inside the container, because they want to explicit control which device show up in the container. I did the device path throughout the in the container yeah.

G

That's one point of you so, but anyway I guess it's why this talks about the utility in conjunction with the devices Seberg so yeah. So when you, if you're using the devices, see group, then maybe you do want, maybe you do want things to automatically show up because you're already restricting the device access to the container using its using the see.

A

Group, but does the kernel support the fact that if the device is blocked, you won't show up inside this? The devs hamper us I. Think that's not true. No I.

G

Think the head would be that it would show up inside the unit.

A

If the senior say hey, you don't have access.

G

To this, but you wouldn't have back so.

A

You cannot access to okay, okay, okay, so I think you move forward. This is this sounds like a novel bug, but it's like more I can improve my all feature.

A

Okay, this one already accepted.

H

A

I think that's acceptance, so Jason you're working on that right, yeah.

H

I'm working all day already, okay,.

A

Yeah, so this is a pretty oh, that's critical, yep.

H

I've got a question now also um so do we need to fix it for the previous versions, with only the exact men's, or you want to only target like a lot of the later versions? What socks on again so computers, the implementations? We only use them a pre, exact commands and later we have the container mount info yeah.

H

So do do Anna. Also backport, like changes for those Lamar, you know know the ones using a pre exactly yeah.

A

Okay, so I think, let's try to I'll keep my like to fix on master first and I think about its. If it's hard to back poor because I think it it will be.

E

A

To backwards so we will see, but let's fix on the master first yeah.

H

We've got extra like my discussions, you know on this and now capture those in the comments or okay.

A

I'll mark the target version has won six I. Think because I think this is a pretty cool, pretty critical thing. That was your fix. Yeah.

H

Fair enough.

A

Gilbert, since you're assigned to this one Mesa say Jane talk or neglect to retry this covering tasks. Docker containers.

A

Do you have a context for this? One.

F

Nope, it's just like it's in so it's Windows 10 issue and yeah I turn the outside to me. Okay,.

A

So for enzyme, so you're not working on this right, yeah.

F

I'm, no, it's a little I.

A

Tried to launch make searching exact talker containing such a way that agent Walker can be replaced and recover and project has some snacks okay. So this is trying to run down missus agent inside talker container windows on Windows, really, okay, yeah I. Don't think we support that, but um I'm not sure andrew is on the line, because it's really two windows on.

A

Maybe our King hug.

A

Apart need to take notes on this, one I don't have the context, the create some.

F

Label for those issue which we might need more charging.

A

Yeah, so so that's why I'm singing like what should we do here so.

F

Maybe just a label, so we have better idea in the future and filter that out very quick yeah. So.

E

A

I think that's a good idea. Sorry, how do I revert that.

F

You have to go through to the end and then go back what okay.

E

E

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Fixed angle, that.

E

A

Okay: okay, stop progress; okay, so yeah I can keep that Holborn sounds like do that. Yeah.

A

Okay, why it's a sign to me: okay, not working on this, where any loss would come in the same time, each community some execute occur, are unable to get a secure kid after launch, really, instead talking to hanging or exit around pit. What any reason me, okay,.

A

Is that related to okay? This is so. You don't have.

A

Okay, so this sounds like we have to follow up, um might be related to something else.

A

How do I make an open for that I.

E

Guess you start and then stop.

E

A

Okay, so I'm fixing that one so I said are patched so James. If you have time I think that's part of the chain, the system D stuff, that's one patch. It's just like something that we missed during the implementation.

A

Okay, I can review that. Okay, thanks um Gilbert this one.

H

A

So they're using a special toy version that cannot understand this. Shall we mark that, as won't fix, the yeah I think we should fix this four one: six, no wait! What so? Why do you think that? How do you fix that one like you're using an otar hmm I guess we could also decompress the dock earlier image where use version your works, the bug effects you see are containerization I think we should eat a document that the minimum version of tar or fixed at yeah I'm, not sure it.

F

Comes with some like option to make it compatible yeah.

A

I think, let's just document this first okay does that make sense? Yes,.

C

That we don't specify Z but I, think they are feeding some Z. They you're right, I'm, sorry that Jesus paid.

G

Yeah, do we doc you don't in general, it'd, probably be helpful for us to document all the little command-line things that makes us depends on at runtime yeah, because there's like half a dozen of them yeah.

A

I think curl, tar-like, gzip, probably I, don't know okay, yeah I, think yeah I think so Gilbert can we talk about this like I think we should add the content documentation for this english' yeah.

F

I think I think forfeit our patron crew and it's CP those we need for UCR. We should like document a minimal version on the documentation. Okay, it's assigned to you so I'm gonna keep that way. So we should tell them okay,.

A

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Okay, so this well definitely not working.

A

Okay, um this one I think we might just want to close down one there's a stack full okay anyway. I'll follow up with this one. Just sign to me. This one sounds like storage related.

A

Yeah, so this one I thought I think I purchased I think I might just fixed that one I.

H

Think they already had had a patch and I was done doing with you, but not not merged or no I.

A

Think so, Jason I think I might just fixed that one just like I think I just haven't closed the tickets. Okay,.

H

Do you have like Mahdi the fixing air for the later version with a communal info yeah.

A

I think that I think that's I think I remember I fixed that along the way of doing that, refactor. Well, okay,.

H

That's awesome, yeah.

A

All assigned to me, I all fixed now I'll close to take it once once I confirm this all.

H

Right, you know I I checked with the mo Chou's offline and he said liking my if there's some newer fixed well for that, and that would be great, otherwise them yeah, no he's not. He also has other priorities. Okay,.

A

Yeah I think I might I just need to confirm I'm, pretty sure fixed our cool thanks.

A

Ucr cannot read our image contain long trail pass. Yes, that's a real issue.

C

Like it's because we depend some darker, let's use a look Oh. What is the current version of doctor like what they were using the newer top go then yeah.

A

I, so so that something that we might want to confirm. But this is a real.

C

A

Okay, so chunky like it either. Eichmann is like document that we should talk him in this okay, okay,.

A

That's a pretty bad issue.

A

Some container launch failure mistakenly tree has error. I think it's been reviewable, so that's been taken care of.

F

Yeah I think for this. We should we should reach out to the reporter if this is still an issue, because we fix something last summer, yeah all right.

C

Well, we can try to just try out your lab and see what happens. Yeah.

A

So so Gilbert, that's why I'm saying I can't have this see how it's? Yes, it's not a side to me. I know a lot. Okay,.

A

Allow a server to specify a secret environment. What what's this one?

A

So that's done, there's no description. So we know. Do you know what's going on with this one.

E

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D

Guessing like now that we have secret support in the environment, proto's I'm, guessing that that hasn't been implemented and the Isolators. So maybe he was planning I.

A

See I'll just close this one and ask him to reopen if that's in the issue and.

F

This is not Broadway.

A

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There's a lot of stuff.

E

Yeah incomplete is fine.

A

Yeah this one I still see that being flaky.

A

If your lawn chicken here was calling in the sandbox pass, you will Chris sent me to that past Natsume. No, we just restarting to nature.

A

I thought we fixed down, not sure, stood on the issue. How to spin yourself.

A

For preparing containerized can test works. You can prepare a possum.

A

Yeah, this is not a buck. That's like improvements.

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A

Okay, so sounds like.

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Agents will validate and NASA contain, not exceed certain length.

A

Okay be valid or not, that important.

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F

So we probably won't then.

A

The how we fix this one I just don't send the mode, but the only share is being fixed, so should.

F

We close this one and there are neither.

C

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A

The goal or do you have any context for this one ignore faster sign, search and what protocol facing malformed.

F

Yeah I think this is a validation on put above, we can add validation. Is that.

A

E

F

Issue should be something we can meditation on the master. Okay.

F

Yeah I would say, are you working on that one or you know not actively? It has been there for a while, like one year, okay,.

B

A

Yeah, this is still an issue.

H

So gee I think Lamar. Also, this could be related to like ma the ordering of the battle ponies. Yeah are.

A

Just assigned to you I think that's the same issue. I thought you're you're, trying to fix our right. Okay, yeah.

H

It's more more of the sophisticated fix for that yeah. That's.

A

Okay, thanks yeah! That's why I figured enable now are isolated. What is that.

F

You is this something.

A

Microsoft might be interesting. No, but there's no description, I just closed. Our nasty container can be unkillable regret. You have contacts for this one.

D

You have, to be honest, there have been I've been looking at several like unkillable task issues lately, so I need to look at this one to see which one it is.

A

Okay, I'll mark that as oh well,.

A

Look father here, Santa bug. Oh.

A

Okay, so it's all nice due to this book.

A

Okay, so that's why I remember.

D

Yeah, if you want you could assign that to me. I can verify that fix address. Is it that.

A

Was later yeah dad sorry.

A

Okay, I'll send to you I think that should be close. I think if yeah, it would be nicely came back, verified that enclosed our okay.

A

Namespace mount is not supported.

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A

Yeah I'll, just close down, sounds like you see.

G

Did you consider doing like an agent startup check to make sure that to fail fast, if we don't support required, no spaces will.

A

It make sense here: yeah, ok, yeah, I, think that makes sense. It's it's amazing already happening. Yeah I, don't think we kept that we always assume mounts available. It's amazing that they have these Nam Mountain. Ok, ok, yeah,.

H

I've seen Colonel some with some others compiled. That's.

A

A fair suggestion is that a deviance thing that mount might not be you know me like full point always like 4.1, is a pretty like new current I. Don't know why I did not.

H

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H

Of their kennels yeah or like they didn't powered with the mod in the proper in no new spaces, ok.

A

Ok, yep I think ya can show SN checks if that's possible.

A

So who wants to work on this one yeah? Let me talk about this.

G

You can send it to me or am I looking at it, but I. It's not gonna, be for a while. Ok.

A

Ok, oh thanks. Thanks James.

A

Okay, I'm not sure you're gonna access on the line, but let me pin home.

A

Set home for me tasks yeah. We should do that.

A

So Gilbert I mean uh or someone who wants to work on that I think there's something that we should fix. What should we sit home to unspecified rights? Unspecified it breaks them? The Python thing. Can we set home to the the sandbox directory? Is that a reasonable? We already have an environment variable for sandbox, with.

H

That actually needs to be done inside of inside of the launcher. So when you are in the launcher like space and you actually read that from the target system, not to isolators yeah.

A

But I think that I think like it. It's not a question like how do we do that I think we can definitely do that. I just like what's the default home should be should be like? Is that gonna be the sandbox um Tomatoes sandbox? It.

H

Won't save you use some other user home instead using.

A

F

G

That's the whole conundrum. It's doesn't seem at all obvious what home should be because the user might not be there, but the user might not have a home yeah. Okay,.

H

Yeah I mean there's an implementation, but you could fall back to sandbox if that's not there, anyway. Okay,.

A

We shall mata is like open, because I think we don't really know what to do there. You.

D

Guys know if other container runtimes have a pattern. Yeah I think darker set the home to be yeah.

A

I, remember talking to a friend at home, I mean quickly check because.

D

To some extent, it might just make sense for us to follow a pattern that other runtimes use for developer convenience, yeah.

A

That's a good idea.

A

Yeah conquer set the home to /root by default because tastes. Okay, let me try to okay I think we will I'm gonna follow up on this. One I'll just comment: my work show me too.

C

Normally in Unix Linux, if the user, that's on your home, what would that be I? Think it's read on set right. Sorry, I.

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C

If the user doesn't have a home defining they're, not in the password file, then what would the home.

A

Environment will be yeah, I, don't know, that's something we should verify: okay, yeah, okay, yeah, let's move forward default worker is not route.

F

V like this is not an issue.

A

Okay, Gilbert: do you wanna comment and close this one yeah.

F

I could follow up on that chip. A sign denied.

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F

Said to me, yeah.

A

My star measures contain darker image. It doesn't work.

A

Yeah, this is a pretty 01.00 chef's doing the issue.

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C

You oh I, comment on this. They just didn't didn't, add cause I. Think, okay,.

F

So, okay, this one's I remember it was fixed. Okay,.

C

Well, it's just I, don't think it's a is a problem.

D

So, regarding that last ticket about the worker, is that a case where we intentionally differ from the doctor, runtime behavior.

A

Yes, this is just so governing on a comment on this.

F

I think I add comment, so so the default would do. It depends on like with orbital image and then, if an image, where that what there is specified by the image I think it's not an issue for us, because no rule should not always be the water, and witnesses has made a song semantic. The work there should be the sandbox is if it is not specified.

D

Okay, so in if the worker is unspecified and darker, it goes to root and we set it to sandbox, tur yeah.

F

Yeah, that's the old Mesa semantics we have to give it. They were compared to go and okay. That.

D

Makes sense I wondered, do we have any documentation that kind of lists operational differences between using the darker runtime and you see? Are we.

F

Did have the documentation to to saying that default work. There is under the sandbox, but we don't have magic to compare those differences with dr. Dino.

D

Okay yeah, it just occurred to me looking at this issue that that might be really useful documentation for developers to have the list of things. I think Oh differ between the two runtimes yeah.

A

Yeah yeah, so gobo I would suggest it's like you create a different ticket for that documentation like creating a documentation for the differences between doctor in the UCR yeah, and in close this one and link the tickets, yeah and I.

F

Really started to have like a table to show you those differences, yeah.

D

F

Maybe not really to use this yeah.

D

Do you want to create that ticket or do you want me to Gilbert either way.

F

Yeah yeah I can create that ticket thanks man thanks.

H

Also, out of curiosity, so do we have formality sandbox? There are trees for skin oil containers. Yes,.

A

We do ok, yes, ok, so this one I think it's no longer than the issue, because we.

A

Yes, I'm pretty sure.

G

We fixed our that seems also related to the containerized supervisor yeah our linked our.

A

Do you remember a ticket number.

G

No I remember the ticket number it does have supervisor in its name, though,.

A

Yeah anyway, so um how try to find out that ticket? If you checked me that ticket I'll.

G

A

That would be great.

A

Yep thanks James.

A

In the meantime, I'll just also James K King can also just resolve that ticket I think we haven't fixed that okay.

A

Okay, balling container past should be forbidden to the container sandbox.

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F

Oh, this one might be already resolved by the amount infinitely cuz I can explain briefly what I think I think this one it is like. Is someone like host volume to host volume and then contain the past to be the same bounce it? Might it might override the continued sandbox.

A

Okay: okay, take a look and close down. If not only issue yeah.

F

A

Spice I'm try to reproduce it to sleep issue: okay, I'll, keep it open and still assigned to you. Yeah. Take a look: what's up the triage attorney to follow up on that stuff yeah, so missus directory is sent to a host path. Using docker image was unified, continue, Reiser father just said to this, which is a host pass. Okay,.

F

I think that they I think we change the document. We update the documentation about the basis under Scott directory is it is. It should be already deprecated.

F

Yeah, we did I think the documentation. I remember.

A

Okay, yeah I, think I. Remember this one should be closed.

A

Okay, this one is this thing.

A

Show image information about containers that sounds like not a bug.

A

Yeah, so this for your life.

A

Yeah, that's still in yes sure.

A

Are you working on this one I thought we cannot do this change.

F

This but it is not doable because we have to do a compatibility issue, so you don't need the oboe.

A

Get out of black, we can add a flag to the agent to to to to be backwards compatible. If people wants that feature, but.

F

The people could already like work around it by parameters.

A

Okay, anyway, I think this is a valid issue. Just keep that there I, just like people, have worked around I constantly report on people for this issue. Yeah.

F

I saw a couple ties yeah. This test failure.

A

Yeah I just don't have time to fix those something we're always so so James I thought I thought you were running. Those tests on fedora is that's doing the issue or, or you never run those tests.

G

um They still file on the Dora, okay,.

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G

Them expected file, I, think, okay or at least some of the port mapping oscillator tests yeah.

A

Okay, yeah, it's very specific to the tournament I think I.

G

Think it depends on having some xx.

A

And lightly specific.

G

Versions of tea seeds and other other tools, yeah.

A

Transition document, why out deletion from FPS to something windows compatible.

A

Yeah I think this is knocking buck.

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A

James is that still an issue I.

G

Think this is unfixable in general, because my sauce can't, if you actually enforce not writing to the sandbox, when you don't have any disk, then can't launch any tasks.

A

Okay, then, do you want to do our closed? Our just say: won't fix yeah, okay, okay, yeah I'll, just like unite against so.

G

It's not clear to me what the missile semantics are supposed to be. I think whether it was supposed to be that no disk meant disk was unconstrained or no disk meant it was zero. Yeah.

A

Yeah I yeah, yeah I, don't know to me I think I'll. It no text means like zero, but I break a lot of people right.

G

Cuz, if you have.

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G

The problem is, you can't actually have no idea, you can't actually have a task with no disk. Well.

A

Yes, that's true, but I think like a lot of the schedulers to use that, like the default behavioral marathon, just like not specify any disk yeah, that's one reason that we cannot turn on those isolating in product. Anything in GC us to okay, yeah I would say like let's just comment on this and then forget fix because I think we're not actually actively working on this one and we're just closed our say. One fix.

A

That's why I suggest that's fine with me: I'm not likely to work on it anyway, yeah, okay, dr. Vaughn, I, think we have. We probably don't get to everything. I think we get to like if you like, 2/3 of the tickets, I think I'll, maybe like half more than half of the tickets. We will continue empower next time if we don't have any other agenda. But if we do have an agenda I think we can do that later, but I do want to finish the all the tree-hugging dr. von diesen, I.

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A

Can you what's this Gilbert.

F

Gerber, are you still there? Oh I was melted okay, so this one this one should be I, think the title was changed by edits are, and basically this is the. This is the issue from the dr. Walden API uh-huh and we might need to add some retry logic to do. If the reference counting book well poker issue can.

A

Be brought by the first clinical, oh, oh yeah, I. Remember this one yeah yeah this! The the new cosine of the apiary.

A

That's doing the issue, but I don't think that anyone is gonna. Yeah I'm gonna just accept that one, but I don't have any working on that. It's the real issue yeah this one should be minor expected.

A

Single CPU share isolator, don't take effect. All this. Oh.

A

That's interesting: okay,.

F

Is he is he still actively working on this? I? Can.

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G

Is it a conversion thing like the Colonel's preowned.

A

Yeah but I think's 3.0, which I have colonel death stout, but.

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A

Control see Volken processes, okay, yeah, that's some tax issue am I need to fix.

A

How Sixtus isolated um allows understand most usage if netiquette does specify? Okay, that's ready to the xs-1x fsy.

A

So James, like I, think we should probably I think it's the same issue. I.

G

Guess it's not gonna fix this, maybe if we, which I don't know that we can yeah I, don't think we can fix down. That sounds like maybe she just document it somehow and say that absent absence of a discourse also means is cuz I'm, restricted. Okay,.

A

Okay, can't help do that well, I think like I, exactly that ticket to I think it straight to the excess XFS one too, so maybe just close those and then adding in documentation says this is something that we cannot do right into semantics.

A

um Do you have cycle for that or I should be able to put together a documentation patch? Okay, that's that's great thanks, James I slack who the tickets, okay, I, think we are over time. This won't be the last and I will continue next time. I'll remember which one we which I remember like what? How many take that we go through today.

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F

Yeah I can also help to do some charging on the rest of them and need to seg fault.

A

I don't know if this is doing issue. We haven't seen this for a long time, but this is pretty old, I'm neat or just close down one, because I haven't seen this for a long time.

F

What, if fixed already is, is it the center specific issue.

A

Yeah I, don't know, I mean but I think it's pretty old and that we haven't seen that for a long time. Our just neat or just closed that one.

A

Okay, I think we are overtired. I want to like too many times and thanks everyone for joining. We will probably continue the triaging next time. If there is, you know, agenda I, think Andre has some agenda items who talk about the composing continue arising arising.

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F

Jason, you do, you have.

A

Anything that you want to discuss next also.

H

Next one I didn't have much event went from, like you know, write some initial thoughts, small for the it's just space. Isolation like in my anything and now for the next one I was on started like mark, you know preparing or some talks, and then you can discuss about it. So no solution. Okay,.

A

Yeah, it will be nice to talk about the things that you wants to do in the next release, like one-sixth release, timeframe, I think you have a bunch of stuff that wants to do. It would be nice to talk about those things here, also that we have transparency, sure all right. Okay, so sounds good um and thanks. Everyone for joining I'll see you guys next time. Thank.

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