Apache Mesos Developer Meetings, 3 Nov 2016

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I saw that couple guys wants to join as well.

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Tonight class, so let's.

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Okay, so um I'm gonna demo, a new feature we adding to my cells 1.1. Well, my release yeah, but it's about to be released. It's called arm park pass group mystic container, um so I'm gonna show you some demo on that share. My screen.

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Okay, you got here you guys to see my three.

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Okay, whenever you talk, we can't see it. So just don't talk.

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All right, so what I'm gonna do here is I'm gonna launch a master first.

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Little bigger, okay.

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Let's hit it up, oh.

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All right looks good.

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Yeah so actually I'm going to start a master first on my local machine. So um actually let me switch to fool me.

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So I start a master, so I'm gonna connect to after using UI and I, see the master yourself. I'm gonna go back to the command line. I'm going to start the agent.

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Do you know how to fix this? One.

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Sorry I should have run this um four hands that I don't need to do this start the agent. If you go back to the UI, it won't work for most basic.

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Spaces are three.

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Times, yeah extra space is ok, so uh so I the agent is connected. I'm going to show you one command on the run, which is the soil to go to I'm going to use the metro sketch execute to rent a catch group. So that's the definition of the task group.

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So I'm going to launch two tasks. What is called producer? One is called consumer, so the producer, what the producer does is a use, some cpu memory and this very thing posting basically use a touch. Some date touch something in a volume it creighton volume in apparent containers, sandbox called share volume and it's mounted inside a container in / volume.

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The image the container use is alpine and it would just basically I could get the current date and touch a file using the same I'll use that name you choose the day as the name and just sleep one second, and do that forever. That's called producer and there's a consumer container in the same cast group which basically LS this I'll share volume so attached the same, sheer volume and then basically to a lab to an LS.

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Oh I'm, back cher Bono and that's pretty much it I'm going to just launch this task group using NATO stash, execute.

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So the kanay I'm going to use yeah, ah so the command is pretty simple. I just use that chess master and get attached that statute equal to j, some fun and just follow this one, and you can see um to task and task group Oh start running right now and if you go back to the UI you can see on both producer and consumer are running. If you click either all done, we can see they're part of the same executor and both of them not running if you click the sandbox.

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um Actually let me click the sandbox of the consumer. If we go to ste out you're going to see the files created by the producer is keep cleaning those dates, since it's one second, each so you can see art showing up every second.

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If you look at the sandbox layouts, you can click the temple executors sandbox. You can see actually on. So that's the executors box, so the executor has two containers running. So if you click containers and there's two containers bringing if you click either up done, you can see the logs for each nestor container and and the any character see the sheer volume is actually on top level on a secure container as well.

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If you click a sheer volume gang can see all the file created by the producer um and there's another folder called tasks which basically they are the the system link between the task ID to the actual container ID in the sandbox. So this is just simplify on people, finding those nasty container using task ID, and it's pretty much it. So that's the demo, any question.

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Question yeah sure um so I, don't so for people who find this stuff like myself, I, don't actually know what level the group is grouping stuff. Is it at the container level is a very secure level. Okay,.

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So actually I have some slides. Let me actually show you some slides right just so background yeah I ship Teresa seriously. There are some slides that I can show you guys.

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Yeah so basically like how we support our task group so basically like to support all like feature me to type of we need to to set up like a API seem asos what means called Task Group so basically on the the framework has a way to send multitask atomically to the executor. So previously, if you want to send two tasks to an executor, it's likely that one task reach the executor and the other task get dropped somewhere.

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So this is not ideal for Pollock feature because, if, like you want to start all the time, all the containers in the pod on simultaneous that you don't want any test any like. For example, it's it's not okay to start some side car without like starting your main container, so I want the property of paul is like you have to make sure all the task, all the containers in asking up a secure, which the executor simultaneously it's all or nothing semantics.

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So that's the task group api and the other API we add to may so, since the agent API, which allows in arbitrary executor to uncreated container. So this is the agent. If you are we introduced, we had three calls to agent API, which is basically launch Ness, a container wing as they contain and quien esta container. So they say how it works. Is this so um so say you have a container re running.

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Your executors are really running then executed educated on the create a nasty container underneath my container, um so I could go back so on. So this is the like the high level architecture of the nasty container. Basically like previously, you have a container, you have an executor and s if you have multiple tasks, but those tasks don't have any resource isolation between them. So it's up to the executor to execute those tags. There's no resource isolation at all.

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I think the new primitive add allow in a secure to create genetic container in the needs that the top-level container, so that these two tests can have separate resource constraint and they can do proper resource isolation and also you can give those nessa container a darker image to run so that they can run different darker images and them.

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So this is the animation, so they take it like when the executor wants to create a sea container extended launch to the mezzos agent on the mezzos agent world would be responsible for launching, has to contain a properly nested under the top-level container. I say in this case the ethic you want to launch the Nanjing X nasty container. It will just call launch and contain the continued riser will prepare the ngx sub container. For that and there's another API call watch.

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So basically things like executed, so basically agent is, is the one that launched the engine X nasty container. So how do I get the access status of diagnostic container? So all what we do is we we create an API call. Watch sorry call wait, so the a secure way stay on a way for the continued to be terminated and when the container actually gone, the aging will get the cactus status of domestic container and send back the correct Mexico to back to the executor.

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So the execute can decide what to do next, based on the exit code. um Another nice thing about this nested container API is support. Arbitrary level of nesting, so you can have more than two level of nesting. So what use case for that is like say, I can't have a debug container say on the debugger nginx nesta container I can create a three-level us to continue called debug in underneath the net and ngx nasty container, so that you can do bar proper debugging.

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So the operator character is agent API to create a you, a nested level on container and the nista ng Hanks containers. So under the use of this API to do things like a debugging.

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Another nice thing about the mastic container API is that I think is. Is we allow execute to dynamically Korean esta container versus like a coup? Benetti's Polly had to statically pre-define those container when you specify on the past back so, but here like I, think we allow executors to do more smart logic and that's more flexible than what's there increment at ease a.

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Question so in this nesting, like them continue our hierarchy. How would the process hierarchy look like, though so like about? Would you mean, like offices, so in this case of my engineers, are? Your container would also be cool. Like am I a kind of container Iser about processes at work or how's that, like so.

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So we're going to have a init process which called kept mesos container eyes or launch, which is gonna, which is going to be the arm. The pit one inside a pending space, and then that makes us continue eyes are launched. Helper process is going to forking exact, the actual on user processes, but the namespace is properly nastiest. So if you look at the nasty container engine X here, so it's probably, if you use pen name space isolator, it's probably nested it spin namespaces, properly nested, underneath the top-level executor container yeah.

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Also, are we able to customize like what main space is free to opt in and out? Oh yeah,.

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Sure you can like, if you, if you don't use pen names right, isolator, we're not we're not going to do anything about canaan space. So all the container is gonna share the same host level pin namespace yeah.

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So in this case, I'm not talking about like a mall, the nested once so, can I come kind of isolate the pitcher or the top of and.

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A doll she'll like the PKM in space of Austin I would be nested containers, yeah.

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I think it's up to the isolator to decide what what's the cement is elastic containers. So, if you want your custom logic, you can actually be your own likes a pending space isolator to based on the label of the container or something else to decide how to do that. Like one named space, he wants to enter. Do you on the new kidneys or you want the same namespace, because you want to debugging something I, just cool. How is this dual intake cycle by exposed.

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The cement exposed to user actually like it's, it depends on how operator configure your agent so depends on the Isolators. You use I'll go, but.

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Every delivery.

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Resting is when you want to miss.

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The container can you specify what namespaces you want to enter versus share? Oh now, you can't really do that from the users perspective right so now face yeah them exactly what goes on, but so we're in the process of building multiple classes of containers where the default one would be share. All the namespaces except the kid in the mountain in space, those get cloned new for your Nesta container.

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That's the hub use case and we're now building a new class of mystic and vonage called debug, which will enter all namespaces rather than clone any of them. Ok,.

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So that's some kind of plea for predefined set of you all set up like a lot more flexible customization on the composition, yeah.

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But you can actually define your own isolator to customize, so you could look in your own isolator.

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If you want so it's an agent, a little configuration rather than per container configuration that you can do right now, Thanks yeah.

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So, for example, of cebu isolator right now all domestic containers to the same, see you as the parent container. We can potentially introduce a flag to seigar isolator to say: oh, you have a policy, you want the nasty containers. So basically, if a bullying flag say if you want the net to continue meeting us in a separate in SJC group or you want that to be the same parent see group, so you can actually have control flies on those Isolators to properly undo configuration. We can support that.

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We can make it more flexible and incident, and it's always up to the operator to config those and a user should not be aware of those things because I'm a user I don't want to care about. Like we'll see you smile rod is gonna, be yeah.

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So a couple question: first: how does how does presentation authorization.

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By the agency level to.

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Make sure other entities docking first meeting executors to run this so.

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We have the same authentication authorization mechana as the operator API, so you can think of the agent API. Is the operator API that it has the same ossification of the relation cancer but I think we know. Do you want to comment on that things? You I think Greg is working on that.

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You look we're designing executor of Education currently, so the operator API is an authentication enabled, but the default executor does not currently authenticate so we're having authentication to the executor area and we'll be implementing on education in the default executor with authorization to follow some time. What.

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Are the journal title operated in here or the executor in the eye? Sorry, not only would you describe that it applies work, I, executor, API, you, an Xfinity audio, be one Operator it yet because these are two different, maybe I points yeah.

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It'll look like to move the like. The default executor hits both of those API endpoints to accomplish its work like it subscribes the executor, API and the Marches message. The containers to the operator it yet so it'll be authenticating with both Lucy.

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Prize that in the future, I need custom executor. We need to run, they need to be able to understand how to authenticate themselves is executed. Api, yeah, yeah.

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In Cyprus incentive, http-based educated, the schedulers need to understand how to authenticate with women scheduler. We expect the exact astonishing how about indicated. We want exact, they're, all so much ATP, so once they know how to HTTP oxidation table to be either of APN.

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Single question is: how does a scheduler know what canvas case those guys will receive about Nestle container launcher information in what cases against something with.

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Kissing peasants, right now for the default executor case, we do Nestor containers for tasks, so each faceted or national container and use default exact erson. So there the signal is the status of it well container launches. It looks at the launch status and then sends a task running, but if they're more better levels of nesting, there is no mechanism to signal that it has. We have a band or procurement messages or something like that. There is no honest red container specific events flowing through the system, yeah.

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So much already written pretty screwed on us just refer me to behave yer so.

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Actually asked questions my site is it, so is the container Iser like a launcher process? Them are kind of isolated out of there being same space as a ship, or is it still gonna be the eighth one of the container? Yes,.

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So I think having just created ticket this today, so the plans to move that container riser launch helper process out of the pen a space so that we can allow users to ruin things like in it, like some other India to like system being inside the container, because this is what I'm, not that great. If you did, if they're not, it is not a k1, so is, for that case also, gas.

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To the parents.

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Who to do that also.

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We know that's the.

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Plan, it's not possible right now, oh yeah, but like yellow I discussed them in the interrogation elasticity, oh yeah, and also long for the like the mystic containers to we do. We also have any semantics to specify all the estate containers dependencies right. Velma, oh yeah,.

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I think it's up to the a secure. You can always write your custom executor and then you can better dependency somewhere in the data of your task in then you can do your own dependency tracking.

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The castle make a itself ilysm current, but their plans to do it, but we haven't even design dirt haha so right now it's a fuel injector go take a bleep ing quote.

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So there you go to support. The default. Executor include the dependencies in server yeah.

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And the tasking for somewhere and you can put the dependencies we can cast in the bathroom, for example, under private sector- understand I can launcher oh yeah. Thank you cool any other questions about the master containers staff groups. Oh.

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Good um thanks g for doing that. I think those helpful for you.

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So we have about half an hour. I want you to go through the roadmap, the areas that we enjoy today's last night and figure out. Should they stay there. She literally check it out. Are they done Sarah a little red parts on these, so I admitted only get a link. I love lyrics, yeah yeah, so yeah. That's awesome. Thank.

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Bet in what, with a median home ah ticket yeah, so there's stuff in here that I'm not sure what the starts of it is. So, let's try to get through these next time. I'm 30 mins should.

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We just make sure the near them in actual up today. Are there the new stuff he'll be working on the nose.

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Obviously, let's.

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Is this still happening something happen.

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Yeah we had a three-hour meeting with the guys working on this yesterday, not restore them yet, okay. So it's something it's just being a razor and shave.

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I think um cheetah is adding some metrics for on dat first and then we agree on how to do the garbage crashing later. Okay, cool.

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That's happening with onion.

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I'll go black pen, yeah.

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So that there's a patch all ready for that one I just need to go ghostly for initially base and probably calm it down as soon as what does that mean literally.

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Have a patch for that, and so currently we use the copy, Baek, honest I as thief of I care for the prohibition in it for you to buy candy noises. So, but ideally you want to use the overly address as a people back and it is available, if not be just look for the aux back and it's this is such a module Colonel a provision, the fire custom image yeah. So this is why the Colorado, so we should have a smart mechanism to choose the right. I can because I know it is probably.

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Right now, it's just like operating used to specify that, on the flag, say backhand equals to call babe at k equal to or whether it's just like a burden for operator like it will be great. If we can just have some I can equals to auto, and that makes us pretty alive. I'm gonna pull.

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I think our team is done, I mean we just need to add the documentation.

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I'll do that: okay.

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What what is that I think it's like sons on the remaining work on C&I is like adding like a statistic: support healthy and I and I see a menage she's working on that one.

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This is the epic I think yeah. This is the whole I pic about like supporting CNI. He made sauce I. Think we've done most of the work on and I. We recently needs to do some other stuff related to see and I I, just like this is like a umbrella ticket for CN I support.

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I think how Stan sent out a review for that one and only territory on this one, and hopefully we can come in as soon okay.

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We are actually working on this I. Think Houston has a design dog somewhere I. Look at the deal and dog missing comment today. Actually us well.

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Stands on the car, maybe he can comment on this on.

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I can turn to the in progress. Ok,.

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What are these improvements me? What I do.

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Yeah Wow: what are the improvements that you're making? Yes, we need to support all the other subsystems on and I also proposed that we also support a case where, like we can do just see groups isolator without specifying the subsystems, so it just basically pick up all the up subsystem supported on the system.

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Still happening, what's not a turn-on cause at the moment because of priority, not because we're not planning on doing it, I'm sure.

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You later should move to meet your show where I guess the near term is still within three months: I guess: yeah put Siri, okay, sorry, state bank, oh you're, gonna Decimus, so either her stuff that you're working on here at the attachment dinner are you I would never put anything here, no okay, so you should probably add stuff it most of it likely working on this quarter, which is I, saw.

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My salsa profile container attention and containing down there yeah.

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And other custom support improvements case only implemented. Think right now that we might be working on is the restart policy. The dapple guys are going to work on right. Here we went to tech deck and many times there for the paths to its unproven and but we're not actually working on an appeal device. Why yeah he's like attached to this effect? Yes, yeah, we checked research, I, hear.

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You um you might have to rejoin the eye or something yeah.

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Working on and supporter term, should we save resources for multiple rosettes been working another alright actively again, oh yeah design is equal to the recent addition media and the hierarchical.

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Okay, client ID out now impalas are river down, but it's couple months: I back agency heads that's what we're working on I change, that the figures include rock yeah, respect that I scooter. Often, however, I pick for stickers for fetching, because I think you.

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That's one that data that you're asking about like figure out stuff, so we have to learn, I forget working on it and he bugs and design doc soon. Yeah.

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Keep your eyes up on the double.

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Designs, I see you next week, adult education.

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We're doing it before so yep. This is more for like ongoing basis test basis, so that parallel institution test actually work reliable, I back.

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Just chill chill shepherded an initial cut ya for the. What did he call it? The test? Runner, okay, I assume you just keep turning it over. Well, not.

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Real anyway, I mean that's almost done basically right and everything else is just flaky tests, basic cable at this point and improvements which are not scheduled so.

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Chevalier remove that no dad and the phone is working on it. Okay,.

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What are the pcat.

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Content was part of a sequel to cooling and both Alex poured a hobby hate you on that again, that's probably other improvements.

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To trigger the area harder, which was the improvements to signify, think that improvements to see groups now, that's like how about and relish for our blog buy you an open project.

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Research stuff, oh yeah, do you want to add a resettable task stuff.

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Should that be a separate wait, so epic 40, the restaurant ass is ready. There is that they're.

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So yeah, if I, want to add that epic, here, okay, I just wanna just tell us the ticket and we can write. Okay, that's one of the big thing. That's happening politically start asks an egg in this locality start castles. The design doc would be the designer go a bit like about sunday telegraph list, yeah.

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So we're gonna work it out do some work to improve it. Based on our meeting yesterday, I want will announce again.

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Don't know who.

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Edited or well I I get soaked logo factor is like a right. Now factor is not pluggable, which is like a you cannot plug in your own fetching mechana done like a p2p, so I can go here is trying to make better pluggable so that I can plug in your arbitrary again like using p2p, I'm using any arbitrary mccannon to fetch the artifacts or docker images.

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We have any plans to work on this within your response. Yeah.

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Sure um it's me at I right: it's not a one-year term, but in three to six months, yeah, most likely. Okay,.

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O3O father three names, besides medium term stuff, that should be my exclusive.

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Income anything different, you know yeah, it is unless they sometimes that we're thinking about it and we get done God's work, hey one thing that I would put rethinking in the year: LaVida done affect public adulation.

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Yeah, we do anything for ya 12, oh yeah, Quinn, Billy, the third mastery of original stuff yeah. This is having some meetings, um but there's nothing concrete there. Yet here in color than integrity, something that's happening slowly,.

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Fall back we're fine actually for our class image laterz nor I art attacks. That sounds like gene yeah.

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So yeah that too so I think the idea is like you right now. We have fecha cash. We have imagens different type of caching missiles to.

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Go in trying to unify them because of.

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Them are artifacts. We have a unified way to to catch those artifacts you made. So that's the that's it amber on a ticket for that one. Okay sounds good. um I.

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Mainly wanted to just capture like whether we should take it out or move it into near future. You know, plus.

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Let's just suppose for now, gosh.

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That's somebody working on that. Oh yeah,.

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Yeah, I think this is part of the debugging work as well, because if we saw the debugging solution, debugging problem, we also saw the command house check problems. Those I think it's part of the task group is proved.

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Okay, you need to be the same, didn't say. Mr. Hebert containers envision support trucks will work on.

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Is everything and imaginary? Is it no.

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I want to give evidence to him with your special spray. That's the boys or yeah, but the remaining three year term agree. The opportunity arises: are in favor of infection terroriser with support gee I'm guessing this is so from them. Yeah.

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I, don't think it's gonna happen. Six month, oh um resource.

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Allocation and optimistic offers, probably like happened, actually thinks it'll happen.

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Did you see the horizon, but if I was working on it in six months right, we've suddenly done this on, say wednesday yeah not on others, but.

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To literally mothers are going to get started, I think there's a rocketfish all right, hey, rich, what's I understand you should probably leave them on here. If they're at least, can we get started with it from oh sure, ok put their chance.

I

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Think reasons: well, let me tell you enjoy.

E

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H

Ok, so there's something else on the agenda, um but let's open it up, yes, yeah, so it's 51 yeah we have nine minutes. I, don't have any thing that won't bring up.

H

If I online have anything to bring up bro all right, gee, thanks again for doing the devil, I'm.

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I, don't want to sort of say then that's for the next yeah.

H

That's good actually um so I want I want to start doing a bit more demos, maybe one or two per week to curb meeting, as opposed to just one demo, I'm thinking something along the lines of something similar to entreat this. For us, where we have some new feature that people want to learn about and figure out how it works, it.

D

Looks like that I.

H

Think we could also do demos of things that are things that already exist in the code base that people maybe should know about or will be useful if they don't know about so I. Could you know bootstrap back demo I talked about so were the utilities that are available and and just kind of orient the meeting for for us for them right, as opposed to kind of our user meeting, where we talk about I, don't use tastes like that.

H

I think this talk about code in this meeting and different, perhaps best practices and patterns, have shoes.

I

Actually also need you making polite for and I review design docs your bed or will they? Let me to take.

E

Too much time which would not only gender, we could do it about the instead of just saying we're going to do it. If someone says I want to talk about this piece of that designer. Yes,.

I

And I should be outta that chair probably be then dogs for people to come in to come in your sink and some chicken minutes kinda the literature talk about stuff so that yeah get more feedback in person. Yeah the.

G

Other thing is, might be like a some feature. Requests like like some. Some some company wants to really want to have some feature, and it will be a great end to discuss those speak to require on that. You would really want to get a can discuss that.

H

Okay, yeah there was lots of stuff I think it would be useful if we talked about you know the difference, components and how they interact and when they should watch out for some of the principles, it means those two for them to do to and follow I things like that. Okay with you are useful in terms of at you like evaluating fresh and you design, doc with 20 25 people in the room, I think it might not be the best use over time.

H

But if there's something a topic of discussion with data that I got then yeah.

H

Okay, cool all right well and find this early thanks for coming. How are we joining online and in your own relations over like yeah all.

D

Right take care so guys see you guys.