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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting June 2, 2021
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on June 2, 2021 at 1:30 PM.
To view the meeting agenda visit: http://www.apopka.net/agenda
Referenced in Video:
• Flags at half-staff Thursday, June 3, 2021 through Sunday, June 6, 2021 for Jim Sursely
• Jocko Podcast #200 with Jim Sursely https://youtu.be/avDXMRz0ngE
• Apopka Youth Council (AYC) 10 Things We Love About Apopka https://youtu.be/tBG8xxkhQ0k
#ApopkaCityCouncilMeeting #CityofApopkaFL
B
Let's
pray
together,
heavenly
father,
we
thank
you
today
for
this
beautiful
day
and
lord
as
we're
reminiscent
of
the
memorial
day
that
we
just
celebrated
and
all
those
who
gave
so
much
that
we
can
have
this
wonderful
freedom
and
liberty.
We
just
ask
you
to
bless
us
today.
Father
bless
our
meeting
as
we
seek
the
best
for
the
people,
and
we
ask
your
father
for
a
prosperous
day
in
jesus
name,
amen,.
A
D
Here's
the
fun
fact
of
the
day
for
june
2nd
on
june,
2nd
1865,
the
civil
war
ended
with
confederate
general,
edmond
kirby
smith,
commander
of
the
confederate
forces
west
of
the
mississippi,
signing
the
surrender
terms
offered
by
union
negotiators
with
smith's
surrender.
The
last
confederate
army
ceased
to
exist,
bringing
a
formal
end
to
the
bloodiest
four
years
in
u.s
history.
A
Okay,
you
should
have
a
new
set
of
minute
minutes
in
front
of
you.
I
hope
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
and
also
we're
emailed
to
you.
A
Good,
okay,
any
corrections
not
look
for
a
motion
to
approve.
F
A
A
G
Mayor
and
council,
I
want
to
present
to
you
today
our
graduating
seniors.
Our
students
have
worked
hard
on
a
video
that
they
would
like
to
show
you
all
today,
I'm
so
proud
of
this
group.
They
have.
Many
of
them
have
been
with
me
for
the
past
two
years.
They
will
be
greatly
missed.
I
do
have
one
of
the
students
he
actually
was
the
salutorian
at
wekiva
high
school.
This
is
our
gator
that's
transferring
over
to
gainesville
and
he
will
present
the
video
for
us.
H
You,
okay,
so
for
our
latest
project
and
the
final
project
for
this
graduating
group
right
here,
the
youth
council
set
out
on
highlighting
some
of
the
best
aspects
of
the
city
of
apopka.
So
as
a
group,
we
put
together
a
short
video
of
10
things.
We
love
about
apopka
and
the
community,
and
we
hope
that
this
video
we
worked
on
will
help
bring
attention
to
the
best
the
city
has
to
offer
for
everyone.
J
J
K
L
O
D
N
P
Q
N
A
J
Jackson,
uncle
tim,
why
are
you
speaking?
My
name
is
roger
z,
jaggerton.
I
used
to
attend
wakaba
high
school.
I
think
the
most
memorable
aspect
is
just
learning
about
the
council
as
a
whole.
What
it
means
to
be
a
part
of
apoca
and
like
integrating
does
the
history
behind
the
pocket,
because
a
lot
of
times
many
people
didn't
know
the
history.
So
through
this
program
and
a
process,
I
learned
so
much
about
podca
and
I
like
grew
a
love
for
it.
J
D
I'm
john
latimer
graduate
from
apopka
high
school.
My
favorite
thing,
I
would
say,
is
learning
about
everything
in
apopka
and
what
you
all
do
as
a
whole
for
us
behind
the
scenes.
I
know
everything
might
not
be
publicized,
but
you
all
do
a
lot
for
us
and
then
dr
jackson,
our
sponsor,
she
knows
she's,
not
only
our
sponsor.
She
is
also
a
mentor
for
us
as
well
just
guiding
us
through
things
in
life
and
making
us
be
a
part
of
the
city
as
well.
So
thank
her
for
that
as
well.
Awesome
awesome.
A
Well,
thank
you
thank
dr
jackson
for
for
a
great
program
and
we
continue
to
move
forward
and
and
continue
to
have
these
programs
and
and
look
forward
to
a
new,
fresh
crop
of
juniors
and
seniors
next
year.
So
thank
you
thanks.
A
lot
appreciate.
A
S
I'm
here
to
introduce
emily
hannah,
one
of
my
colleagues
that
I
met
through
metro
plan
she's,
the
the
executive
director
of
bikewalk
central
florida
and
today
she's,
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
best
foot
forward
safety
program
and
some
other
aspects
about
the
programs
that
she
oversees.
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
from
her,
but
I
did
want
to
make
a
connection
between
what
she's
doing
what
she's
talking
to
us
about,
and
our
relationship
with
metro
plan
and
as
part
of
that
relationship.
S
She
is
participating
with
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
the
metro
plan
study
for
the
rock
springs,
road,
welch
area
and
she's
going
to
be
advising
us
on
that.
So.
Q
That
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
commission,
my
name
is
emily
hannah,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
bike,
walk
central
florida
and
today,
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about
one
of
our
programs
best
foot
forward.
But
before
I
begin,
I
have
to
really
tell
you
why
I'm
here
and
it's
not
a
great
thing
and
it's
not
a
gun,
a
good
reason.
Unfortunately,
I'm
here
today,
because
central
florida
is
one
of
the
most
dangerous
places
for
people
to
walk
and
bike.
Q
Historically,
since
2009
we've
ranked
number
one
or
in
the
top
five
of
a
national
study
called
dangerous
by
design
and
unfortunately,
that's
not
a
place
that
orlando
and
central
florida
wants
to
be
number
one
at
right.
So
we
need
to
move
the
needle
and
that's
what
bike
walk
and
the
best
foot
forward
program
are
here
to
do.
Q
But
why
are
we
so
dangerous?
And
why
are
we
number
one
well
part
of
that
has
to
do
with
us
as
drivers
we're
often
distracted
nowadays
with
technology
and
signage
and
the
kids
fighting
in
the
back
seat?
We
often
don't
necessarily
pay
attention
to
what's
around
us.
As
we
drive,
we
often
carelessly
walk
as
well.
You've
noticed
as
as
you
as
a
pedestrian,
oftentimes
you'll,
follow.
Q
Of
least
resistance
and
walk
from
one
a
to
point
b
as
fast
as
you
can
and,
as
you
know,
a
straight
line,
we
don't
build
places
for
people
to
walk.
We
often
build
places
to
drive,
and
obviously
that
leads
into
my
third
point,
which
is
careless,
design,
we've
taken
the
last
50
years
and
have
really
designed
our
communities
for
the
vehicle
and
not
for
the
people
that
truly
live
in
those
neighborhoods
and
so
we'd
like
to
kind
of
change
that
and
that's
what
we're
doing
today
with
bikewalk
central
florida.
Q
So,
as
I
stated
before,
that
is
the
non-profit
advocacy
organization
that
administers
the
best
foot
forward
program
on
behalf
of
its
coalition
partners
and
is
funded
primarily
through
metroplan
orlando.
But
we
do
have
another
advocacy
tool.
It's
called
bike:
five
cities.
This
is
an
annual
bicycle
ride
that
we
host
along
trails
and
safe
streets
throughout
five
cities
in
central
florida
to
really
showcase
where
people
can
comfortably
get
out
in
their
community
on
foot
or
on
bike
and
explore
new
areas
and
new
places.
Q
So
we
really
needed
a
cohesive
pedestrian
safety
message
when
that
second
dangerous
by
design
report
came
out
in
2011,
and
so
the
orlando
region,
metroplane
orlando,
the
city
of
orlando
and
orange
county,
put
their
heads
together
and
decided.
We
needed
to
do
something
about
this
and
they
formed
the
best
foot
forward:
pedestrian
safety
coalition
in
2012.
Q
So
we
evaluate
the
crosswalk
by
collecting
driver
yield
rate
data.
So
essentially
we
have
a
data
collector
across
the
street
upwards
of
60
times
throughout
one
day
at
different
times
of
the
day
and
depending
on.
If
the
driver
yields
to
that
pedestrian
as
they
enter
the
crosswalk
or
if
they
don't
that's,
how
we
collect
our
yield
rates-
and
so
you
can
see
here-
woodbury
road
and
mallory
circle-
eight
cars
out
of
a
hundred
yielded
to
a
pedestrian
at
that
location.
So
how
do
we
have
pedestrians?
Q
While
we
do
this
data
collection,
we
look
at
the
makeup
of
the
intersections
the
crosswalks
themselves.
We
identify
opportunities
to
work
with
our
engineering,
our
public
works
partners
to
do
some
striping
or
some
low-cost
engineering
improvements
like
signage
or
other
counter
measures
that
we
now
have
access
to
these
new
tools
that
we're
discovering.
So
we
try
to
work
with
our
public
works
departments
to
put
those
in
place
and
then
go
back
and
collect
data.
Is
that
working
right?
Q
We're
constantly
measuring
whether
or
not
we're
successful,
but
we
feel
like
we
are
through
the
engineering
and
education
and
enforcement.
We
were
able
to
increase
the
driver,
yield
rate
at
a
crosswalk
at
edgewater,
drive
and
shady
lane.
I
like
this
example
because
edgewater
drive
was
already
a
complete
street
when
it
entered
into
the
best
foot
forward
program
and
the
yield
rate
was
only
25
24,
even
with
on
street
parking,
even
with
narrower
lanes.
Q
I
told
you
a
little
bit
about
our
partners
a
minute
ago,
but
we
monitor
upwards
of
60
crosswalks
a
year,
collect
data
on
them
and
work
with
our
partners
to
identify
those
low-cost
engineering
solutions
and
then,
of
course,
work
with
the
law
enforcement
to
enforce
some
of
those
I'd
like
to,
if
possible,
share
this
video
with
you.
This
is
an
operation
that
was
held
several
years
ago
in
orlando,
but
I
think
does
a
really
great
job
of
showing
how
our
law
enforcement
partners
are
a
huge
part
of
this
program.
T
U
U
U
W
Q
So
a
pretty
impactful
video
right.
It
shows
really
the
the
true
need
for
having
our
law
enforcement
partners
involved
with
the
program,
but
also
why
education
is
such
a
key
piece
to
that.
We
feel
that
if
with
every
driver
pulled
over
and
receiving
a
warning
and
or
a
ticket,
they
angrily
tell
15
of
their
friends.
So
we
feel
like
that's
a
really
good
way
of
sharing
our
message
as
well,
but
we
really
partner
with
our
media
and
that's
our
our
biggest
takeaway
with
our
law
enforcement
operations,
because
we
do
these
in
a
region-wide
effort.
Q
So
we
partner,
we
have
osceola
county
orange
county
city
of
orlando
and
seminole
doing
it
all
within
the
same
week,
usually
within
the
same
few
days
and
the
media
loves
to
get
a
hold
of
that
story
and
talk
about
how
we're
improving
these
streets
for
pedestrian
safety,
and
so
because
of
that,
we're
able
to
leverage
the
wonderful
news
coverage
of
these
events
and
again
continue
to
share
that
message,
because
it's
all
about
education,
I
don't
want
to
pull
people
over.
I
want
to
educate
them
right.
Q
Sometimes
you
got
to
do
both,
but
we
also
do
that
through
social
media.
So
we
share
our
partners
updates
what
they're
doing
events
projects
that
you
have
what
you're
working
on
and
also
when
we're
out
in
the
community.
We
share
that
message
as
well.
We
have
quite
a
following
on
social
media
and
so
that's
a
platform.
We
use
quite
often
to
continue
our
message
and
so
to
date
the
program's
been
around
since
2012
was
when
it's
launched.
Q
The
earned
media
value
of
5.8
million
is
what
we
would
pay
for
advertisement
space,
but
the
media
has
provided
us
for
free
by
showcasing
our
program
and
what
we
do
in
the
community
and
then
our
total
social
media
impressions
are
a
mere
1.5
million
eyeballs.
So
that's
a
good
reach,
and
so
how
do
you
get
involved?
How
do
you
become
a
part
of
the
best
foot
forward
program?
Well,
you
start
by
participating
and
invite
us
to
come.
Speak
to
your
rotary
clubs,
your
hoas,
your
community
groups.
Q
Let
us
come
to
your
events
and
share
our
message
about
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety,
and
then
support
projects
and
developments
that
encourage
walking
and
biking
when
you're
reviewing
projects,
then
in
the
planning
stages,
make
sure
that
there's
a
pedestrian
connection
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
beginning
of
the
building
right
oftentimes,
that's
that's
something
that
we
miss
are
the
sidewalks
wide
enough?
Is
there
enough
street
trees?
Q
Are
there
enough
amenities
to
support
the
pedestrian
needing
to
walk
or
bike
to
their
their
destination
and
ultimately,
support
complete
streets
projects,
support
policies
that
have
those
type
of
elements
in
place
and
support
the
the
program
and
infrastructure
that's
necessary
to
get
people
out
moving
in
their
community
and
then
tell
your
colleagues
and
friends
about
our
message?
Obviously
we
want
you
to
tell
your
friends.
I
watched
a
really
scary
video
of
an
officer
almost
getting
hit
by
a
car.
Q
You
know
those
types
of
messaging
and
remembering
those
moments
are
really
what
drive
home
this
issue
and
then
turn
that
car
trip
into
a
walking
or
bike
trip
so
literally
get
your
best
foot
forward
and
get
out
there
and
walk
to
a
destination
experience.
What
it's
like
from
a
pedestrian's
point
of
view.
Q
I
can
tell
you,
probably
it's
not
going
to
be
that
enjoyable,
but
you
can
at
least
look
at
it
from
the
lens
of
the
pedestrian
and
know
how
you,
as
the
commission,
can
address
those
issues
from
a
policy
and
development
standpoint,
and
thank
you
for
ultimately
having
me
here
today
to
come.
Talk
to
you
about
pedestrian
safety,
about
bike,
walk
central
florida
and,
of
course,
the
best
foot
forward
program.
C
Because
that's
certainly
a
program
that
I
would
certainly
embrace,
because
we
have
so
many
schools
that
are
at
busy
intersections
and
and
you're
right,
because
I
I
do
use
the
streets,
I
do
park
my
car
and
use
the
streets,
and
we
have
one
particular
four
corners
that
you
literally
take
your
life
into
your
hands
when
you
want
to
cross.
C
So
it's
something
that
I
particularly
would
definitely
welcome
a
program
that
we
can
start
at
least
advancing
and
promoting
pedestrian
safety.
Absolutely
thank
you.
B
Q
It's
pretty
even
across
the
board.
Well
I
wouldn't
say:
even
there
are
certain
counties
and
cities
that
have
higher
pedestrian
injuries
and
fatalities
than
others.
It
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
speed
of
the
facility,
the
roadway
itself
and
the
number
of
lanes
of
the
roadway
and
then
what
the
context
is
around
that
roadway.
Q
So
if
you've
got,
for
example,
if
you've
got
an
apartment
complex
on
one
side
and
a
grocery
store
on
the
other,
and
there's
no
place
for
people
to
cross
you're
going
to
have
natural
pedestrian
crossings
at
that
inner
that
location,
and
so
we
really
need
to
understand
the
differences
between
that
and
provide
that
connection
for
them
right.
So
they
don't
have
to
go
down
to
the
nearest
crosswalk
crossing
and
cross
again
so
being
looking
at.
Those
types
of
things
is
incredibly
critical.
Absolutely.
Q
So
right
now
it's
cities
as
well,
but
some
cities
are
not
a
part
of
the
program,
so
we
only
monitor
and
collect
data
for
those
that
are
part
of
the
program.
The
county
tends
to
focus
on
unincorporated
areas
of
the
county,
specifically
in
orange
county,
there's
a
lot
of
unincorporated
that
they
want
to
monitor,
and
so
they
they
really
expect
the
cities
that,
if
they
want
to
participate,
then
they
they
will
look
at
their
own
jurisdictions.
Right.
B
Apopka
is
number
one,
but
we
don't
want
to
be
there.
So
hopefully
we
can
be
number
one
in
safety
concerning
those
things.
So
I
think
it's
great
that's.
X
Yes,
likewise,
it's
something
that
I
was
supporting
would
love
to
see,
come
to
the
city
of
apopka,
to
educate
our
residents
as
well,
and
I
guess
my
other
question
is
once
you
identify
that
it
is
a
dangerous
intersection
for
pedestrians.
Do
you
provide
the
signage,
that's
necessary
in
order
to
change
those
habits.
Q
We
don't
we
work
with
your
public
works
departments,
because
nobody
knows
them
better
than
the
guys
on
the
streets
right.
Your
public
works,
your
maintenance
crews.
They
know
the
little
blips
in
the
sidewalk,
they
know
what
signs
need
to
be
replaced,
so
we
just
work
through
them
and
let
them
know
and
make
those
recommendations
we
will.
If
there's
a
funding
issue,
we
will
work
to
try
to
find
the
funding
whether
or
not
it's
grant
supported
or
through
other
dollars
elsewhere.
But
we
really
put,
we
really
try
to
be
the
extension
of
staff.
R
Y
Y
Y
I
would
venture
to
guess
at
a
good
portion
of
our
traffic
or
pedestrian
fatalities
due
to
traffic
or
vehicular
reasons
happen
outside
of
that
zone,
because
people
just
aren't
using
the
formal
crosswalks
that
we
have
here
in
apopka.
So
how
do
you
assess
the
natural
behaviors
of
people?
Knowing
that
that's
the
issue
right?
Pedestrians
are
going
to
take
the
path
of
least
resistance,
and
it
may
not
be
through
a
crosswalk,
and
so
the
data
may
be
flawed.
How
do
you
address
kind
of
going
into
a
city
and
understanding
where
people
are
actually
going
across?
Y
I
mean
we
case
in
point.
The
lead-in
on
your
presentation
shows
that
beautiful
crosswalk
bridge
that
goes
over
441.
I
would
venture
to
guess
maybe
10
of
the
people
across
the
street
actually
use
that.
So
it's
understanding
our
behaviors
too
and
educating
us
on
how
to
fix
those
as
well.
Absolutely
because
some
of
that
may
come
into
the
enforcement
side
of
things,
not
necessarily
engineering.
Q
Very
very
true:
one
of
the
things
we
look
at
is
basically
the
facilities
throughout
the
community.
What
are
the
roadways
right?
What
do
they
look
like?
How
big
are
they?
How
fast
do
they
move
traffic?
What
type
of
traffic
do
they
move?
Are
they
truck
route?
Do
they?
Are
they
a
neighborhood
street,
there's
different
contexts
for
every
classification
of
roadway,
so
we
come
in
and
we
really
look
at
that.
Then
we
look
at
the
data
we
look
at
where
people
are
going
where,
where
are
some
points
of
interest
in
destinations?
Q
Is
there
an
apartment,
complex
in
a
grocery
store,
or
one
of
the
things
that
I
didn't
realize
on
a
street
in
downtown
orlando?
There
was
a
bar
and
then
there
was
a
cash
advance
and
there
was
some
fatalities
that
were
occurring
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
between
these
two
destiny.
We
couldn't
put
the
two
and
two
together
and
we
finally
got
some
data
to
realize.
That's
probably
why?
Q
You
know
you
and
your
staff
know
more
about
your
community
than
I
do
coming
in,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
what
works
elsewhere,
based
on
the
roadway
based
on
the
context
what's
around
that
roadway
and
what
are
some
other
factors
trip
generators?
Is
it
the
trail
right?
How
does
that
impact,
how
people
move
around
the
community
and
then
how
to
leverage
the
assets
that
you
have
to
build
upon
that
momentum?
You
have
a
beautiful
trail
through
the
heart
of
your
downtown.
Q
How
do
we
get
people
to
use
that
to
go
to
the
destinations
here
in
apopka,
instead
of
turning
around
before
they
get
to
the
bridge
right
because
they
don't
want
to
go
over
that
bridge?
So
we
try
to
look
at
those
type
of
factors
and
ask
the
community
and
that's
why
going
out
and
doing
the
community
outreach
and
being
at
the
events
is
a
big
part
of
the
boots
on
the
ground
that
we
bring
to
to
your
staff.
Q
As
I
said
as
an
extension
of
your
staff,
because
we
hear
about
those
comments,
so
it's
a
little
bit
multifaceted
and
there's
also
projects
that
you
guys
are
working
on
that
we
like
to
be
involved
in
to
help
advance
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety.
Ultimately,
there
is
a
a
give
and
take
with
vehicular
moving
vehicles
through
your
community.
That
still
is
the
primary.
You
know
mode
of
transportation
along
with
transit.
So
we
have
to
consider
how
we
move
everybody
around,
but
I
ultimately
advocate
for
the
peds
and
the
bites.
A
Well,
thank
you
emily.
I
I
know
that
I
think
the
cost
4
500
does
that
sound
right.
A
For
the
city
of
apopka,
so
we
can
pam,
we
might
want
to
look
at
putting
that
in
budget
sounds
like
from
the
commissioner's
point
of
view,
but
I'll
give
you
my
my
my
experience
with
with
the
group
we
went
out.
I
was
in
pine
hills
when
I
was
commissioner
and
we
were
on
pine
hills
road
and
we
had
a
plain
clay,
plain
closed
officer,
making
the
trip
across
pine
hills,
road
and
it
was.
A
It
was
really
disturbing
how
few
people
stopped
and
I'll
never
forget
one
of
the
last
ones
that
they
ticketed
lady
in
a
minivan,
and
not
only
did
she
not
stop
for
the
guy
on
the
crosswalk.
She
honked
her
horn
and
was
screaming
him
all
kind
of
names.
You
know
he
was,
you
know,
get
out
of
the
road.
You
know
what's
wrong
with
you,
so
it's
a
it's.
Obviously,
we've
got
pedestrians
that
are
doing
the
wrong
thing.
We've
got,
drivers
are
doing
the
wrong
thing
and
it's
it's
the
education
which
they
bring
to
the
table.
A
That
and
I've
been
very
impressed
as
as
a
county
commissioner
and-
and
I
think
it's
a
great
organization
that
can
help
us
kind
of.
As
we
know,
we've
had
some
some
incidents
here
in
the
last.
You
know
a
couple
of
years
that
we
need
to
try
to
address,
and
I
think
they'll
be
a
good
good
partner
with
us
to
to
make
those
things
happen.
So
emily.
Q
R
Z
S
We've
been
trying
to
fix
the
intersection
of
rock
springs,
road
and
welch,
since
I've
worked
for
the
city
and
that's
been
four
years,
and
I
think
it
extended
before
that.
It's
just
an
incredibly
large
fix.
It
extends
well
beyond
the
intersection
and
so
talking
with
our
partners
at
metroplan
and
our
partners
at
orange
county,
because
it's
half
their
problem.
S
Metro
plan
stepped
up
and
is
funding
a
study
that
we're
doing
and
it's
it's
a
complete
street
study
and
it
also
incorporates
the
west
orange
trail.
So
that's
a
bonus,
but
the
best
part
is,
as
metro
plan
gave
us
their
a
team.
Our
project
manager
from
metro
plan
is
laura,
bach
and
and
and
then
their
consultant
project
manager
is
amy.
S
Sermons,
they're
going
to
come
up
and
do
a
presentation,
but
also
on
the
metro
plan
team
is
taylor,
lawrence
she's
new
to
metro
plan,
but
very
talented-
and
this
is
all
compliments
of
nick
lepp,
who
is
the
director
of
transportation
at
metro
plan,
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
this
is
a
partnership
with
orange
county
as
well,
and
my
counterpart
in
orange
county
is
brian
sanders.
I
think
some
of.
AA
AB
Good
afternoon,
mary,
nelson
commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
time
today.
So
since
pam
already
introduced
us,
I
will
just
say
that
we're
very
excited
to
be
working
on
this
project
kicked
off
in
march
of
this
year.
Amy
is
going
to
do
the
presentation
and
I'll
be
up
here
to
answer
any
questions
we
have,
I
think,
as
we
get
into
the
presentation,
you'll
see
how
many
elements
of
bicycle
and
pedestrian
safety
there
are
in
these
two
projects,
and
so
we're
really
excited
to
have
amy
on
board
to
help
out
our
team
as
we
move
forward.
AC
As
laura
mentioned,
we
started
in
march,
so
we
are
talking
with
folks
to
get
some
information
about
the
projects
and,
like
pam
also
mentioned,
we
have
two
projects:
we're
talking
about
the
rock
springs
road,
as
well
as
the
west
orange
trail
extension
we'll
go
over
the
study,
schedule
and
then
open
up
for
any
questions
you
have
so
starting
with
the
rock
springs
road
study
and
the
overview
of
the
project.
We're
looking
at
the
intersection
from
welch
road,
as
well
as
a
complete
streets
project
from
welch
road
to
leicester.
AC
So
the
purpose
of
this
part
of
the
project
is
to
establish
a
safe
and
efficient
access
management
plan
for
the
study
corridor,
or
really
look
at
more
of
a
complete
streets
and
determine
those
intersection.
Improvements
for
rock
springs
road
at
welch.
Road
and
again,
we've
been
working
with
emily,
so
we're
going
to
incorporate
our
bicycle
pedestrian
look
into
the
project
as
well
at
sandpiper
street
we're
looking
at
kind
of
two
things:
we're
looking
at
the
intersection
of
sandpiper
street
and
park
avenue.
AC
Currently
it's
a
skewed
intersection,
so
we're
going
to
look
at
realigning
so
that
road
lines
up
at
park
avenue
and
we're
also
going
to
look
at
adding
sidewalk
along
sandpiper
street,
I'm
currently
there
sidewalk
on
the
south
side
when
you
look
west
of
park
avenue,
but
nothing
on
the
north
side
and
then
it's
the
opposite
on
the
east
side.
So
we'll
look
at
filling
those
gaps
of
sidewalks.
AC
Now,
looking
at
the
west
orange
trail
extension
study,
our
limits
run
kind
of
all
over
the
place,
but
we'll
look
at
looking
at
rock
springs
road.
We're
going
to
start
where
the
trail
currently
ends
at
leicester,
road
and
carry
all
the
way
up
to
kelly
park.
Road,
that's
going
to
tie
into
the
planned
wakaiva
trail
extension
and
then
we're
also
looking
at
some
spurs.
So
we're
looking
down
welch
road
from
rock
springs
to
connect
over
to
the
wachiba
springs
park
entrance.
AC
AC
The
purpose
is
obviously
to
extend
the
west
orange
trail
from
its
existing
terminus
at
leicester,
road
and
connect
up
to
that
wakaiva
trail.
That
is
planned
to
be
built
at
some
point
also,
as
I
mentioned,
to
tie
down
welch
road
and
provide
connection
to
the
wekiva
river
blueway
trail
down
punkin
road.
We
want
to
provide
that
connection
not
only
to
the
elementary
middle
schools,
but
also
to
the
apopka
city
city,
athletic,
complex.
AC
So,
looking
at
again
we're
doing
these
two
studies.
Concurrently,
whenever
we
present
we'll
talk
about
both
projects,
our
schedule,
like
we
said
we
started
in
march,
we're
currently
in
the
phase
of
getting
existing
information
and
looking
at
our
future
conditions
assessment.
That's
part
of
why
we're
talking
to
several
agencies.
AC
Just
as
emily
mentioned
is
you
know
the
city.
You
know
your
area,
so
we
want
to
gain
information
from
the
city
and
the
county
to
build
on
our
existing
conditions,
after
that,
in
september
of
this
year,
we'll
start
defining
our
alternatives
that
we're
going
to
look
at
and
then,
ultimately,
around
september
of
next
year,
we'll
select
those
alternatives
to
move
forward
or
the
next
step
being
designed
to
move
that
into
the
design
phase.
AC
We
do
have
some
public
engagement
opportunities,
which
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
in
the
next
stage.
Next
slide:
sorry
we're
here
we're
doing
agency
presentations.
We've
had
our
kickoff
presentation
to
you
guys.
Today
we
will
continue
to
come
back
to
the
council
and
present
our
findings
as
we
move
forward
through
the
project.
AC
We
are
also
planning
to
have
two
public
meetings.
One
will
be
once
we
have
those
alternatives
defined.
The
plan
right
now
is
to
hold
that
in
january
of
2022
and
then
we'll
take
that
information
and
help
provide
refine
our
different
corridor.
Alternatives
come
back
to
the
public
with
our
recommended
alternative
around
september
of
next
year.
AC
We
also
plan
to
solicit
information
through
project
newsletters
and
provide
information
about
the
projects
at
three
different
points
throughout
the
schedule,
and
then
we
have
planned
for
several
coordination
meetings
and
small
group
meetings.
So
if
we
need
to
talk
to
hoas
business
owners
and
whatnot,
we
have
that
in
our
scope,
to
talk
to
people
to
get
the
information
we
need
to
build
our
alternatives.
AC
We
also
have
an
interactive
website
which
is
just
up
and
running,
and
it
looks
metroplane
puts
it
together
looks
great.
We,
we
currently
have
a
survey
out
there
to
get
information
and
very
soon
we're
also
going
to
have
a
online
comment
forum
where
people
can
go
in
and
pick
and
pick
a
location
on
a
map
and
put
their
comments
about
each
project,
we'll
also
be
using
extensively
email
blasts.
So
we'll
use
all
of
our
avenues
to
get
information
out
about
the
projects
through
emails,
as
well
as
surveys.
AC
So
that
was
very
short
and
sweet
again
we're
early
in
the
project,
but
here's
laura's
information
and
my
information.
And
if
you
have
any
questions
any.
Y
AC
AC
AC
Y
So
so
tagging
on
another
two
years
at
the
end
of
what's
on
on
there
and
then
that
you
led
into
my
my
second
and
only
other
question
was
how
does
metro
plan?
You
know
if
there's
one
bucket
of
money?
How
do
you
prioritize
areas
of
need
because
there's
you
know
that
could
potentially
impact
the
timeline
as
well
correct.
AB
Absolutely
and
actually,
we
have
recently
revamped
our
prioritization
process
and
so
we'll
see
what
what
alternatives
come
out
as
the
recommended
alternative
for
this
project
and
it'll
get
sort
of
lumped
in
with
all
of
the
other
prioritized
projects
and
it'll
get
prioritized.
Y
Yeah,
it's
an
interesting
segue
from
the
last
conversation
because
that
rock
springs
area
from
welch
to
leicester.
You
know
the
high
volume
of
pedestrian
walking
across
right
there
by
the
mcdonald's
and
bubbles
barbecue
going
across
the
street
there
so
outside
of
a
formalized,
crosswalk
and
stuff
like
that
and
plus
you
know,
just
vehicular
traffic
outside
of
pedestrians
in
that
area
is
just
it's
madness.
AB
C
B
I'm
tremendous
on
the
study
on
sandpiper
I've
lived
there
since
97
and
my
daughter
totaled
a
car
at
that
intersection
and
thankfully
walked
away.
We
had
about
seven
at
least
seven
severe
accidents
in
our
front
yard
and
that
was
really
fixed
by
the
working
together
with
the
county
and
the
city
on
that
four-way
stop
that's
been
a
tremendous
success
and
it's
really
changed
the
behavior
there
that
intersection.
There
is
a
cutaway
for
wheelchair
access,
but
it's
down
from
the
actual
intersection.
B
I
walk
my
dogs
every
day
across
there
and
sometimes
that's
a
little
challenge,
because
that's
not
clear,
so
that
would
be
nice
to
just
get
a
clear,
crosswalk
and
wear
there
and
I
think
that'll
help
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
working
there.
It
is
kind
of
a
relief
for
the
welch
problem,
and
so
a
lot
of
traffic
goes
there
and
of
course,
in
the
evening
of
course,
when
everyone's
coming
home
from
work
that
backs
up
so
that
realignment
will
be
a
big
help.
B
It
also
helps
already
with
the
issues
at
welch,
so
they'll
work
tandem
and
I'm
glad
that
focus
is
included
there
and
yes,
as
commissioner
becker
said
the
sooner
the
better
on
those
things.
So
thank
you
for
focusing
on
that
and
advocate
for
us
here,
because
that's
a
real
important
intersection
there
at
welch
absolutely.
C
Happy
too,
thank
you,
commissioner.
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
the
study,
although
I
you
know,
would
like
to
have
had
it
yesterday,
but
that
was
actually
a
a
big
discussion
that
I
actually
had
with
our
chief
administrator
just
recently,
because
these
studies
are
long-term.
C
So
my
concern
is:
what
can
we
do
now
that
will
kind
of
just
put
a
band-aid
in
the
area
and
of
course
we
had
discussed
that
and
that's
something
that
will
be
coming
up
and
especially
striping
in
the
streets,
pedestrian
striping
for
pedestrian,
because
that's
visible,
that's
something
that
will
at
least
make
drivers
and
pedestrians
realize
it's
safe
to
cross,
and
when
the
drivers
see
a
pedestrian
crosswalk,
they
realize
pedestrians
are
crossing
at
that
intersection.
C
So
you
know
I
wish
we
can
do
this
a
lot
sooner,
but
just
the
fact
that
you
are
even
you
know
starting
this
is
I
have
to
say
that
I'm
happy.
AB
C
And
and
pam
how
pam
richmond
is
is
excellent.
I
mean
she's
a
big
advocate
for
pedestrian
transportation
and
she
tries
to
find
a
medium
where
we
can
all
work
together.
So
I
appreciate
it.
A
The
the
one
thing
we
did
ask
them.
You
know
we
were
when
our
initial
kickoff
meeting
is
that
take
a
look
at
wait
on
the
traffic
studies
until
after
the
new
publix
opens,
because
we're
not
we're
afraid
that
it
will
traffic
patterns
might
change.
People
that
live
on
west
side
of
leicester
might
go
that
direction
for
their
groceries
versus
coming
back
to
rock
springs
road.
So
I
said
we
want
to
wait
till
september
when
school's
back
in
in
you
know
in
force,
and
the
new
publix
opens,
I
think,
the
end
of
july.
A
A
AE
Mayor
can
we
can
I
on
a
gender
review?
Can
we
go
back
to
the
review,
real,
quick
sure
so
item
under
public
hearing
resolution
2021-28,
which
is
actually
item
number
11.
AE
staff
would
like
to
request
that
we
move
that
item
to
the
beginning
of
the
resolutions,
because
the
resolutions
from
21
21-22
to
21-29
are
all
related
to
the
cdbg
program.
So
we
asked
if
we
could,
staff
would
ask
to
have
20-28
move
to
the
to
the
beginning
of
the
resolutions.
A
B
AF
A
A
F
F
The
koch
property
subdivision
major
development
plan
proposes
a
development
of
58
single-family
detached
homes
and
142
townhome
units
based
on
the
zoning
district.
The
applicant
is
required
to
provide
8.32
acres
of
open
space.
The
major
development
plan
reserves
a
total
of
13.06
acres
for
open
space
and
recreation.
F
F
The
project
will
have
access
on
the
roadway
network
from
two
locations
on
grand
avian
parkway,
the
applicant
plans
to
cut
the
median
into
two
locations.
The
northern
most
will
primarily
serve
the
single
family
residences
and
the
southernmost
will
primarily
serve
the
townhomes,
but
there's
internal
connectivity
that
allows
access
to
both
entrances.
F
Y
Yeah,
so
within
the
lead
impact,
the
second
paragraph
under
access
and
transportation
says
project
impacts
do
not
create
new
deficiencies
to
the
roadway
network.
However,
the
developer
has
agreed
to
participate
in
an
agreement
with
the
city
to
make
improvements
to
king
street
and
peterson
street.
So
I'm
just
understanding.
I
want
to
understand
the
details
behind
that
and
the
timing.
S
S
The
there
is
directly
north
on
peterson
road
there's
another
industrial
project
and
they're,
going
to
combine
their
resources
they're
going
to.
Instead
of
paying
their
impact
fees
directly
to
the
city
they're
going
to
get
impact
fee
credits
for
fixing
peterson
road
and
king
street,
they
can
do
it
faster
than
I
can
and
they
can
do
it
a
lot
cheaper.
If
I
had
to
do
it,
I
would
have
to
advertise
and
it
would
definitely
cost
me
more
money
and
more
time.
Y
Y
So
knowing
that
we're
sticking
this
above
avian
point
in
terms
of
that
volume,
what
are
the
assurances
that
we
have
that
peterson
and
king
are
going
to
get
done
in
the
short
term
versus
long
term,
because
that
that
road
safety
wise
would
not
be
suitable
for
the
that
much
volume?
That's
coming
from
this.
S
And
they
both
acknowledge
that
and
and
the
road
construction
is
going
to
go
on
when
they're
doing
their
infrastructure
for
their
sites
too.
I
don't
expect
that
they'll
be
completely
finished
before
the
roads
finish.
In
fact,
I
think
that
they'll
start
working
on
the
road,
I'm
just
waiting
right
now
that
the
agreement's
being
drafted
and
in
some
way
it's
going
to
be
tied
to
their
cos
that
you
know
something
has
to
be
under
construction.
Y
And
then
the
only
other
part
because
this
is
directly
impacting
peterson
and
king,
but
ultimately,
when
you
get
out
on
orange
that
lake
view
and
lake
heineger
intersection,
so
you
have
all
this:
that's
going
on
here,
you're,
getting
more
development!
That's
going
on
further
down
binion!
That's
in
the
mix,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
traffic
coming
in
there.
So
I
was
just
wondering
in
terms
of
that
intersection.
S
Does
it
fix
it
to
the
best
of
our
ability
on
the
king
street
side?
Orange
is
a
county
road
and
I
have
yet
to
get
them
to
commit
to
even
acknowledging
that
there's
a
problem,
so
we're
going
to
fix
it
as
as
best
as
we
can,
with
the
impact
fee
money
that
we're
collecting
everything
right
now
in
that
area,
all
the
impact
fee
money
that's
coming
in
it's
going
to
fix
those
roads,
and
then
we
have
a
little
problem
up
at
orange
and
441.
Y
So,
just
to
clarify,
once
once
we
transact
on
this
business,
we'll
have
another
opportunity
to
see
what
the
final
agreement
is.
In
terms
of
that.
E
B
Again
and
the
extra
development-
that's
already
in
the
works,
we're
going
to
see
that
becoming
a
bottleneck
there.
So
again,
as
we
can
continue
to
advocate
to
our
orange
county,
did
they
leave
to
our
counterpart
there
that
we
can
really
address
that
before
it
becomes
the
issue.
S
S
A
AE
Smith
recall
during
the
last
city
council
meeting
held
on
wednesday
march
19th,
the
ratification
of
the
bid
protest
period
was
authorized
to
allow
for
a
firm
to
submit
beyond
the
initial
72
hours
provided
in
our
purchasing
policy.
No
formal
bid.
Protests
were
submitted
as
of
the
deadline
on
friday
may
21st
2021.
AE
Y
Y
Around
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
contract,
but
in
terms
of
staff,
can
we
get
something
out
of
us
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
out
for
this
type
of
engagement
in
the
future,
meaning
we
glean
some
sort
of
expertise
from
how
to
grade
our
own
pavement
and
be
able
to
assess
it
and
prioritize
it
ourselves,
because.
AE
AE
Right,
we
can
look
into
that.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
any
expert.
We
don't
have
an
expert
on
staff
that
these
are
experts
that
actually
will
test
the
road
surface.
The
underneath
the
road,
the
conditions
of
the
road,
but
that's
something
we
could
we
can
look
at
into
the
future-
is
seeing
if
there's
somebody
on
our
staff
that
can
do
this.
But
currently,
as
we
sit
right
now,
we
don't
have
anyone
that
can
actually
assess
these
roads
for
their
conditions
and.
A
You
know
if
based
on
they'll,
because
they
take
into
account
the
traffic
like
if
it's
more
industrial
traffic,
you
know
bigger,
you
know
big
18
wheelers
and
they
would.
They
would
grade
that
differently
than
a
than
a
you
know,
a
neighborhood
road
as
far
as
when
it
would
need
to
be
replaced.
So
I
mean
I
mean
if
we're
not
getting
10
years
out
of
it,
then
we've
got
the
wrong
group.
AE
This
gives
us
that
list
of
all
of
our
roads
and
the
conditions
that
they're
in
so
that
we
can
evaluate
when
we
come
to
budget
time
with
the
dollars
that
we
do
have,
based
on
the
the
conditions
of
them
and
the
maintenance
of
them,
and
I
think,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
they
also
are
going
to
provide
their
certain
when
they
rank
them
or
whatever,
there's
also
a
way
where
they
can
tell
us,
which
ones
you
know,
can
maybe
take
a
different
type
of
treatment
rather
than
a
complete
resurface.
AE
AE
The
last
I
heard
they
said
that
it
would
take
about
three
to
four
months.
So
again
we
have
to
negotiate
with
them
now
for
the
contract
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
get
that
completed,
we're
trying
to
rush
that
as
quickly
as
possible.
We
want
to
get
them
up
and
running
we'd
like
to
have
this
so
that
when
we
get
to
budget
at
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
budget
time
we'll
have
this
this
assessment
or
this
list
to
be
able
to
use
in
our
budget
process.
AE
Yes
and
commissioner,
to
that
point,
I
have
worked.
I've
been
working
with
on
public
services
and
we've
got
a
couple
that
are
really
really.
If
you
remember,
if
you
recall,
we
put
some
funding
in
the
budget
this
in
the
current
year
that
we're
in
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
funding,
because
we
were
going
to
have
the
assessment
done
first.
AE
AE
Were
the
top
two
that
you
mentioned?
Y'all
there's
road
was
one
of
them.
That's
what
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
complaints
on
y'all,
there's
road,
and
then
I
think
the
second
one
was
second
street
there's
a
stretch
of
second
street,
where
we've
had
some
issues
with
her.
AE
So
those
two
are
the
ones
that
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
calls
with
potholes
and
issues
and
problems
that
we're
trying
to
address
first,
so
that
we,
because
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
of
calls
on
those
and
then
we'll
use
the
assessment
going
forward
on
how
to
evaluate
which
roads
should
come
up
in
which
years
and.
C
And
that
will
include
a
lot
of
the
developments
that
we
have,
like
rock
springs
ridge,
also
the
roads
we
take
care
of.
We.
A
X
AH
Just
waiting
for
a
national
husband
to
just
announce
that
you're
refusing
yourself-
I
am
thank
you,
okay
matter
before
you
is
the
request
for
reimbursement
of
legal
fees
and
costs
for
commissioner
alexander
smith's
complaint
that
was
filed
against
him
before
the
florida
commission.
On
ethics,
approximately
on
june
22nd,
a
complaint
was
filed,
alleging
certain
wrongdoings
on
the
part
of
commissioner
smith.
AH
The
complaint
was
subsequently
investigated
by
the
florida
commission
on
ethics
and
last
april,
the
commission
ruled
that
there
was
no
probable
cause
for
each
item
in
which
there
was
an
allegation
of
wrongdoing
on
the
part
of
commissioner
smith.
AH
So,
therefore,
the
a
commissioner
is
entitled
to
reimbursement
of
their
attorney's
fees
and
costs
in
defending
a
commission
on
ethics
charge.
If
it's
that
there's
a
two-pronged
test
that
has
to
be
met
and
evaluated
by
the
council
in
order
for
the
reimbursement
to
be
approved,
the
two-pronged
test
states,
the
one
item
to
be
to
be
reviewed.
AH
AH
The
allegations
in
the
complaint
were
not
necessarily
clear,
but
it
seemed
to
have
surrounded
a
vote
that
was
taken
by
this
council
in
approving
a
sponsorship
agreement
with
advent
health,
and
that
was
the
only
concrete
aspect
of
the
allegations
that
can
appear
to
be
some
type
of
a
public
service.
AH
Secondly,
that
that
action
was
done
in
the
in
the
public
service,
as
this
was
part
of
the
his
actions.
The
commissioner
smith's
actions
were
all
related
to
his
actions
on
this
on
the
dais.
In
voting
on
matters
before
the
city,
I
have
attached
as
part
of
the
packet
the
conclusions
of
the
florida
commission
on
ethics
in
finding
there
was
no
probable
cause
to
find
any
violations
of
those
statutes
that
were
alleged
in
the
complaint.
AH
Therefore,
I
believe-
and
I
would
advise
council,
that
the
the
request
for
reimbursement
meets
the
two-prong
test,
that
the
conduct
the
conduct
complaint
of
arose
out
of,
or
was
in
connection
with,
the
performance
of
commissioner
smith's
official
duties,
and
it
was
done
while
serving
a
public
service.
Therefore,
we
would
request
the
approval
of
the
reimbursement
of
its
of
his
attorney's
fees
and
costs
in
the
amount
of
three
thousand
seventy
six
dollars
and
seventy
six
cents.
AH
So
at
this
point,
what
will
be
needed
is
a
motion
to
approve
the
cost
and
a
vote
on
such
a
motion.
A
R
B
Mayor
I'd
just
like
to
add
I'm
pleased
with
that
outcome,
and
the
level
of
service
that
this
is
providing
to
our
community
is
just
commendable.
It's
actually
a
great.
B
A
Y
All
those
I'm
sorry
one
more
comment
on
on
this
one,
because
we're
just
kind
of
bleeds
into
a
couple
other
ones
do
we
have.
I
know
that
chair
jacobs
had
written.
That's
a
reply
back.
Do
we
have?
Did
we
create
any
formal
kind
of
ground
rules
around
the
school
capacity
issue?
On
these
things,.
Y
AH
We
did
send
a
formal
request
for
clarification
to
the
orlando
to
the
county
and,
to
my
knowledge,
I
have
not
received
a
reply
yet
from
the
county
with
any
type
of
direction
or
any
type
of
reply
to
our
our
request,
at
least
to
the
legal
department,
has
not
received
anything
back
from
orange
county.
Okay.
Y
X
A
Y
A
And
I
would
agree-
and
I
said,
and
then
then
you
throw
on
the
top
of
that
is
what
the
legislature
does
is.
You
know
they've
they've
kind
tried
to
to
to
make
their
their
changes
to
what
orange
county
is
doing,
and
so
it's
it's
each
year
it's
they're
one-upping
each
other.
It's
wish
we
just
get
to
a
place
and
kind
of
stay
stay
level.
C
AI
Bill
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
city
commissioners,
phil
martinez,
planner,
two
with
the
city's
planning
division.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
rezoning
from
t
transitional
district
to
pd
plant
development
district
along
with
a
master
plan.
The
subject
area
is
approximately
73.93
acres
and
is
highlighted
in
yellow
to
the
north.
Are
the
stanton
ridge,
vale
view
and
plymouth
hills
subdivisions
to
the
east
at
state
route
429
to
the
south
is
441
connector
road
and
single
family
homes
and
to
the
west
is
the
shiloh
missionary
baptist
church
and
single
family
homes?
AG
AG
AJ
AJ
Slides
so
included
in
the
pd
submittal.
Just
for
your
information,
we
also
included
drafts
for
the
development
agreement,
the
transportation
credit
agreement
and
the
utility
agreement
which,
as
I
understand,
will
come
before
you
at
the
adoption
hearing,
because
because
it
may
be
difficult
to
see,
I've
tried
to
break
it,
break
some
details
down
for
you
a
little
bit
more
succinctly,
but
with
some
colors
but
you'll
note.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
The
the
geotech
study
has
determined
that
it
is
a
stable
sinkhole
and
we
are
proposing
we're
proposing
portions
of
that
sinkhole
to
be
shored
up
with
retaining
walls
adjacent
to
some
of
the
parking
areas
of
the
project
adjacent
to
the
429.
There
is
a
steep
area
here,
where
the
the
topography
kind
of
dives
down
towards
the
the
edge
of
the
429,
the
multi-family
portion
of
the
project,
is
divided
into
basically
three
parts:
you
have
the
phase
one
which
is
this
portion
here.
AJ
AJ
AJ
In
addition
to
that,
there
is
a
proposed
alf
or
ilf.
That's
assisted,
living
or
independent
living
facility,
which
will
be
about
152
to
180
units.
AJ
The
non-residential
portion
is
in
this
at
the
southern
end
of
the
site
at
the
at
the
main
project
entrance.
We
have
some
some
retail
commercial
blocks
and
then
a
hotel
site
at
the
northeast
quadrant
of
the
roundabout
intersection
on
the
northwest
quadrant.
We
have
what
we're
calling
the
flex
parcel
and
I'll
explain
a
little
bit
about
that.
AJ
That
parcel
is
today
located
in
the
hdr
section,
so
it
is
part
of
the
hdr
portion
of
the
site,
but
within
your
comp
plan
you
actually
allow
a
certain
pro
rata
amount
of
non-residential
to
be
incorporated
into
the
the
hdr
area
if
you're
part
of
a
pd
and
since
we're
we're
proposing
a
pd.
We
think
that
this
is
a
great
future
opportunity
for
a
number
of
potential
different
things.
It
could
be
a
further
expansion
of
the
multifamily,
just
as
a
single
use.
AJ
AJ
As
far
as
phasing
goes
phase,
one,
which
we
have
submitted
a
major
development
plan
for
that
hopefully
you'll
be
seeing
soon
phase-
one
will
include
all
of
the
project
roads,
including
south
fork,
just
to
the
west
of
the
roundabout.
So
we
will
not
extend
the
road
until
the
later
phase,
but
it
will
include
the
entrance
off
of
the
connector
road.
It
would
include
the
south
fork
from
plymouth,
sorrento
and
kiowa
avenue.
It'll
also
include
the
phase
one
of
the
multi-family,
as
well
as
the
master
stormwater
system
for
the
entire
project.
AJ
AJ
Just
a
little
bit
of
more
detail
in
color,
I
know
it's
kind
of
hard
to
get
a
feel
for
it
with
the
black
and
white,
but
we'll
just
go
through
these
real
quick.
This
is
the
main
entrance.
The
this
is
the
connector
road
here.
You'll
see
that
there's
a
new
turn
lane
that
we're
proposing
left
hand
left
turn
into
the
project
for
cars
going
east
on
the
connector
road.
AJ
AJ
Here's
the
the
entrance
off
of
plymouth
sorrento.
This
is
the
overpass
of
of
the
429
you'll,
see
the
section
change
a
little
bit
as
it
goes
under
and
that's
just
because
the
the
right-of-way
was
was
narrow,
very
narrow.
From
the
expressway
authority.
AJ
And
the
north
half
of
the
property,
with
the
the
majority
of
the
phase
one
multi-family
you'll,
see
here,
the
the
main
entrance
was
down
here.
The
secondary
entrance
up
here.
AJ
We're
proposing
a
wayfinding
master
plan
for
the
project
that
will
be
a
a
set
of
signs
covering
the
entire
project,
not
just
a
single
project,
so
this
will
be
what
all
the
developments
will
abide
by,
regardless
of
where
they
are
in
the
development.
A
variety
of
signs
for
a
variety
of
uses,
including
including
just
kind
of
your
vehicular
wayfinding
signs,
gateways
monument
signs,
a
complete
package
of
signs.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
Z
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
ayman.
Saeedy,
I'm
the
traffic
and
mobility
consultants.
We
did
the
traffic
analysis
for
this
project
and
that's
true
right
now.
Z
The
current
spacing
does
not
meet
the
requirements
for
to
allow
for
a
new
traffic
signal
at
the
main
entrance
due
to
the
proximity
of
the
441
signal,
but
the
ana
with
the
current
configuration
as
a
left
and
only
no
right
out
the
traffic
light
at
both
ends
from
441,
also
from
the
ramps
coming
down
from
the
429,
provides
the
enough
gaps
to
allow
the
left
turns
in
so
there's
no
issues
with
the
operation
of
the
of
the
intersection.
The
way
it
is
designed
right
now
and.
Z
The
traffic
analysis
was
done
for
the
full
development,
but
we
took
into
account
obviously
the
access
to
the
north
and
to
the
east.
So
when
all
three
accesses
are
in
place,
the
traffic
will
be
distributed.
It's
not
all
going
to
be
coming
at
at
one
entrance,
so
so
that
well
that's
a
factor
then
already.
X
AJ
That
was,
I
want
to
say
in
about
christmas
time
of
2019.,
so
it
was
right
before
the
pandemic
happened,
but
we
did
go
through
a
series
of
meetings
with
the
neighbors
okay.
B
That
actually
brought
another
question:
was
there
pushback
on
an
entrance
to
hermit
smith?
Was
there
any
issue
with
having
that
entrance
there?
You
discussed
that.
AJ
Yes,
we
did
at
that
time.
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
were.
We
were
trying
to
hope
to
get
at
that
point.
There
was
some
concern.
It's
been
a
while
and
I
don't
recall
exactly
how
much
was
concerned
versus
versus
just
questions.
Obviously
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
at
that
time.
B
I
guess
I'd
like
to
see
the
safety
aspect
of
having
that
access
there,
especially
with
the
alf
center
right
there,
but
again
we'll
see
how
the
community
responds.
Thank
you.
Y
Yeah,
so
along
those
lines,
you
know
the
way
that
you
have
it
stubbed
out.
Obviously,
eventually
it
will
connect
to
herman
smith.
That's
the
long
term.
AJ
Potentially,
the
the
traffic
study
shows
that
we
don't
have
to
have
it
for
the
for
all
the
traffic
to
distribute
appropriately
the
the
main
reason
it's
there
still
is
to
access
the
assisted
living
facility,
which
is
all
the
way
on
the
far
western
end
of
that
arm.
So,
rather
than
just
have
like
a
driveway,
you
know
access.
We,
we
wanted
to
have
an
actual
road.
Y
Y
AJ
AI
AJ
A
R
AA
Ordinance
number
2842
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
amending
the
future
land
use
element
of
the
apoc
comprehensive
plan
of
the
city
of
apopka.
Changing
the
future
land
use
designation
from
county
rural
to
city,
mixed
use
for
certain
real
property
generally
located
north
of
kelly
park.
Road
and
east
of
dalman
drive
owned
by
lee
lee
kuhn.
AL
AL
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
future
land
use
amendment
from
county
rural
and
to
a
city
future
land
use,
designation
of
mixed
use,
properties
located
within
the
one
mile
radius
of
the
state,
road
429
kelly
park,
road
interchange
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
on
one
of
the
slides
based
on
this
of
subject.
Property
will
be
allowed
a
maximum
density.
Five
dwelling
units
per
acre
as
the
property
lies
within
the
neighborhood
character
zone
of
the
kelly
park,
form-based
code
area.
AL
The
applicant
is
requesting
approval
of
the
large-scale
future
land
use
amendment
to
develop
phase
three
of
the
oaks
at
kelly
park
subdivision,
which
is
located
to
the
east
of
the
subject,
parcels
and
basically
oaks
kelly
park
phase.
Three
from
what
we've
been
told
is
going
to
be
similar
to
the
existing
oaks
at
kelly
park
phases.
One
and
two
a
request
to
assign
a
future
land
use.
AL
Designation
of
mixed
use
is
compatible
with
the
properties
to
the
east,
which
are
within
the
kelly
park,
interchange,
form-based
code
area
and
are
developed
as
the
oaks
at
kelley
park
phases.
One
in
two
orange
county
public
schools
has
provided
a
report
that
indicates
capacity
for
the
proposed
development
is
not
available
at
the
high
school
level
and
is
deficient
by
17.816
seats.
At
that
level,
the
property
is
zoned
for
apopka
high
school.
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval.
AL
We've
been
told
that
the
diamond
drive
connection
is
not
going
to
happen.
I've
got
an
email
from
george
shoop
with
orange
county.
That
says
that
diamond
drive
is
a
county
road
and
any
connections
have
to
be
approved
by
the
county.
It's
my
understanding.
There
was
a
vacation,
I'm
trying
to
go
back
in
the
slideshow
and
I'll
show
you
the
slide.
There
was
a
vacation
for
one
of
these
right
aways
here,
but
we
are
on.
We
have
been
told
that
the
vacation
was
approved,
which
would
basically
not
allow
a
connection
to
diamond
drive.
AL
Okay,
yay,
the
right
of
way
is
I'll.
Show
you
where
you
can
see
it
on
this
map.
Probably
this
one
is
located
right
here.
You
can
see
it's
a
little
narrow
strip
that
goes
up
here.
This
is
diamond
drive
right
here,
there's
a
little
strip
right
here
that
was
petitioned
to
be
vacated
and
that's
what
we
were
under
this
under
under
the
understanding
that
was
approved
by
the
county,
so
that
connections
off
the
table.
As
we
understand
it,.
C
AL
C
AL
So,
where
we're
at
right
now
is
transmittal
of
the
future
land
use
amendment,
so
all
that's
being
considered
right
now
is
land
use
change
from
county
to
city
right
after
if
the
board
of
the
council
decides
to
approve
that
transmittal,
st
with
city
will
send
it
up
to
tallahassee
right,
they
will
vet
it
and
then,
if
they
approve
it,
then
it'll
come
back
for
what's
called
adoption.
AL
After
that,
then
we
get
into
the
zoning
and
in
the
kelly
park
area,
you
have
to
have
a
master
plan
with
a
zoning
and
that
master
plan
would
come
before
the
board
here
and
then
that
would
reflect
everything.
The
design
requirements
for
the
kelly
park
forum
based
code
area,
the
input
of
the
neighborhood,
if
any
put
into
that.
C
AL
It's
at
the
behest
of
the
applicant,
so
the
applicant
does
all
that:
it's
not
a
city
meeting,
so
the
applicant
schedules,
the
meeting
they
have
it
with
the
community,
the
surrounding
residents
and
the
city
staff
does
not
attend
that.
X
AL
Yeah,
the
property
was
annexed
back
in
st
patrick's
day,
and
this
is
being
the
future
land
use
is
changing
from
county
to
city.
So
it's
one
of
the
steps
we
have
to
get
to
final
product,
where
you
see
houses
coming
out
of
the
ground.
X
All
right
so
then
I
guess
my
question
goes
back
to
the
previous
meeting.
Will
change
into
city
mix
use,
but
it's
strictly
residential.
AL
Right,
it's
because
it's
in
the
form
based
code
area,
so
everything
up
there,
because
it's
the
kelly
park
forum
based
code,
mixed
use
area,
mixed
use
per
the
comprehensive
plan-
has
to
be
the
future
land
use
designation.
That
applies
to
all
the
properties
within
the
form
based
code
area.
So
that's
what
they're
asking
for
here,
but
being
that
it's
in
the
neighborhood
character
zone,
which
you
see
on
the
map
here,
it
would
have
to
be
no
more
than
five
dwelling
units,
an
acre
that
would
be
the
max
they
could
develop
this
at
and
the.
Y
Yeah
I
mean
you
answered
that
question
right.
I
think,
for
the
sake
of
everybody
here,
the
land
use
is
driven
by
them
being
located
in
the
kelly
park.
Interchange
designation,
so
the
land
use
that
we're
changing
it
to,
and
I'm
asking
you
I'm
not
telling
is
the
only
course
when
we're
transitioning
from
county,
because
to
your
point,
we've
already
annexed
this
property,
the
only
land
use
that
is
applicable
or
relevant
would
be
the
one
that
you're
recommending
today
right.
AG
Y
The
applicant
is
seeking
yes,
so
also
too
knowing
you
know
a
verbal
from
orange
county
to
talk
about
diamond
drive,
and
then
you
know
the
vacation.
That's
already
happened.
I
guess
to
the
resident
that
lives
on
the
south
side
of
downtown
there.
Do
we
have
to
do
anything
in
our
motion
to
protect
ourselves,
make
sure
that
there,
as
a
council,
if
we
approve
this,
we
are
approving
it
with
no
interconnectivity
to
diamond
drive,
would
defer.
A
AH
Y
AL
AM
Real
quick
commissioner
becker
to
your
point,
you're
gonna,
see
when
we
come
through
for
rezoning,
you're
gonna
see
a
master
plan.
You
can
shoot
it
up
or
down
at
that
point
as
to
whether
there's
a
connection
to
down
or
not.
Okay
right
this,
this
they're
completely
separate
you're
going
to
get
another
bite
at
the
apple
okay,.
Y
And
a
lot
of
what
I
say,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
getting
that
on
record,
so
we're
all
in
agreement.
We
can't
just
you
know
to
your
point.
You
know
the
the
five
dwelling
units
per
acre
is
the
max
available.
Assuming
that
that
overlaid
district,
that's
going
to
be
additional
business
comes
back
before
us
and
we
approve
that
right.
So
there's
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
and
parts
to
this
right.
Y
There's
a
lot
one
and
she's
not
here
she
was
going
to
be
out
of
town,
but
one
of
the
residents
that
I
met
with
you
know.
When
we
looked
at
the
original
concept
plan
that
original
concept
plan
that
was
mailed
to
the
residents
there
assumed
that
that
vacation
was
not
going
to
take
place,
that
they
would
have
access
to
it.
That
diamond
drive
would
be
connected
and
there
would
be
a
roadway
directly
of
budding
orange
county
resident
property
and
the
resident
valid.
Y
In
my
from
my
point
of
view,
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
the
open
space-
or
you
know
the
open
space
requirement
is
more
abutting,
the
existing
orange
county
residents
versus
elsewhere
within
the
plan
that
they
submit
just
for
reference
purposes
and
then
my
last
question
would
be
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
documentation
from
decades
past,
leading
up
to
now,
as
in
terms
of
joint
planning
agreements.
Y
You
know
overlay
studies,
whatever
the
case
might
be
from
staff's
opinion.
Are
there
any
inquiries
around
things
that
don't
jive
between
those
agreements
to
what
the
applicant
is
requesting
and
ensuring
that,
especially
within
this
area,
that
the
water
recharge
all
that
sort
of
stuff
has
been
contemplated
and
both
the
county
and
city
agree
to
move
forward?
With
these
things.
AL
I
Y
X
AL
Y
AG
AG
I
AG
Y
Y
And
last
comment,
because
I
forgot
and
the
resident
brought
up
a
good
point
too,
and
we
contemplated
this
when
we
were
going
through
the
new
arrow
conversations
on
some
of
these
new
neighborhoods
that
were
going
to
have
cars
facing
existing
so
in
terms
of
that
buffer,
whatever
type
of
buffer
goes
between,
if
there
can
be
something,
that's
fairly
opaque
to
reduce
any
sort
of
car
lights
or
car
sound
to
do
as
much
abatement
as
possible
there
between
the
two.
There
won't
be
a
road
along
there.
Y
AG
We'll
keep
that
and
we
already
contacted
the
developer,
actually
jeff
summitt.
Who
is
the
engineer
regarding
not
doing
a
road
that
was
originally
proposed,
like
that,
so
putting
the
road
more
internal
versus,
and
then
that
way
the
residents
with
about
residents
or
right
away.
It
is
now
going
to
be
residential.
C
R
R
A
AD
This
is
in
complete
accord
with
the
goals,
policies
and
acts
coming
from
the
wekiva
parkway
and
protection
act
which
orange
county
adopted
along
with
28
other
stakeholders.
As
I
recall
during
this
period
of
time
from
the
late
1990s
to
2008,
which
was
the
year,
the
wekava
parkway
protection
act
was
officially
adopted.
AD
So
it
just
goes
to
show
you.
This
is
a
really
big
deal,
and
this
was
like,
I
said
what
13
years
ago,
so
I'm
bringing
this
to
your
attention
now
to
you,
know,
recollect
and
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
where
all
this
emanated
from
and
the
reasons
why
and
how
critically
important
it
is
to
remember
these
things
with
knowledge
comes
responsibility.
AD
So
to
that
end,
I
provided
you
folks
with
a
summary
here
of
some
items
that
were
taken
from
the
city
of
apopka's
response
to
a
chicago
parkway
and
protection
act.
If
you
don't
mind
this
kind
of
whiz
right
through
these,
if
you
have
in
front
of
you
there
on
the
first
page
page
six,
the
acaba,
parkway,
interchange,
vision,
plan,
I've
highlighted
that
look
at
item
number
two.
AD
It's
designed
to
complement
the
surrounding
areas
and
number
three
manages
and
protects
water
and
wildlife
resources
that
was
on
the
ground
floor
of
apopka's
creation
of
their
codes
and
policies
to
respond
to
the
cover
parkway
protection
act,
so
that
kind
of
frames
it
right
there.
Let's
move
right
along
to
the
next
page,
when
receiving
apopka
to
find
their
neighborhood
residential
outline.
There
you
see
in
the
text
there,
it
says
it's
intended
to
be
primarily
single
family
residential.
AD
It
will
have
lower
density
residential
than
a
transitional
district,
allowing
for
a
smooth
transition
into
the
existing
lower
density
neighborhoods
outside
the
one
mile
radius.
Folks.
This
is
on
the
fringe,
that's
on
the
northeastern
quadrant
of
the
one
mile
radius
and
it's
right
in
the
heart
of
the
most
vital
aquifer
recharge
area
in
the
entire
ricava
river
basin.
I
can't
emphasize
that
enough,
so
you've
got
to
look
at
like
look.
AD
I
understand
what
your
plans
are
to
do,
I'm
a
developer
too,
but
I'm
developing
it
in
accord
with
the
macabre
program
protection
act,
I'm
not
trying
to
defy
it
in
in
and
and
reduce
its
effectiveness.
Let's
move
right
along
here
when
department
apopka
developed
their
policies,
you
can
see
on
the
next
page
policy
20.3.
AD
It
says,
and
I'll
just
highlight
this.
What
they've
done
shall
be
consistent
with
the
adopted
interlocal
agreement
between
orange
county
civil
popular.
You
may
not
know
this,
and
I
put
in
my
email
to
you
all
that
in
a
local
agreement,
says
that
if
a
rural
settlement
is
annexed
into
the
density
cannot
exceed
incoming
to
two
dwelling
units
per
acre.
AD
Remember
I
just
made
a
note
of
that.
Rainbow
ridge
is
one
dwelling
unit
for
two
acres,
so
what's
happened
is
in
phase
one
and
two
toll
brothers
has
come
in
and
actually
circumvented
that
interlocal
agreement
somehow
and
fifty
percent
increased-
that
to
three
houses
per
acre
instead
of
two.
So
you've
already
got
an
encroachment,
as
it
were,
on
the
intentions
of
the
wekava
parkway
protection
act,
as
apopka
has
interpreted
that
I
want
to
make
that
clear.
AD
Now,
let's
move
to
the
last
page
policy
20.10,
you
may
not
know
this,
but
the
wekava
parkway
ak-429
was
built
right
on
top
of
a
car's
formation.
There
were
sinkholes
that
opened
up
in
that
road
as
they
were
building
it.
In
fact,
they
lost
a
well-drilling
rig
north
of
horse
road
into
the
gumbo,
because
it
sank
and
the
geologist
you
know
we're
not
prepared
to
deal
with
that
so
you're,
developing
and
building
roads
in
the
area
that
has
extreme
environmental
importance.
AD
So,
let's
move
along
here
development
at
the
outer
edges
of
the
mixed
use
area
shall
maintain
compatibility
with
the
lands
adjacent
to
the
wekava
interchange
plan
area
by
reducing
density
and
intensity
or
by
providing
substantial
buffers,
landscaping,
height
and
lighting
controls.
Folks,
I'm
being
proactive
today,
like
I
was
before
the
planning
commission
meeting.
We
know
that
the
proper
time
to
bring
all
these
details
is
not
now
it
will
be
forthcoming,
but
I'm
being
proactive
to
guide
you
in
your
thought
process
that
this
is
going
to
continue
to
be
a
problem
unless
it's
resolved.
B
I
AD
Three
three
are
already
there:
okay,
okay,
that
got
in
there
without
objections.
I
was
aware
of
that,
like
I
said,
I'm
a
developer
too
that's
kind
of
what
I
expected
four
or
five,
that's
just
preposterous
folks
that
defies
flies
right
in
the
face
of
everything
that
I've
just
read
to
you
and
the
intention
of
what
kind
of
apartment
protection
is.
Once
again,
I
remind
you,
be
a
strong
link
in
the
chain,
not
a
weak
one
with
knowledge
comes
responsibility.
AD
AN
Hi
good
afternoon,
I'm
marion
price.
I've
been
a
lifetime
resident
of
diamond
drive.
I
am
also
a
recent
biology
graduate
from
ucf,
so
I
wanted
to
speak
with
you
all
today
regarding
water
conservation
initiatives
that
the
city
of
apopka
has
put
forward
on
their
own
website,
and
I
pulled
all
of
this
information
from
there
earlier.
AN
So
I
was
going
to
read
you.
Some
quotes
from
there
starting
off
water
is
our
most
precious
resource.
We
all
know
this
without
it
life
as
we
know
it
would
not
exist.
Although
it
may
seem
apparent
that
water
is
an
unlimited
resource.
Unfortunately,
it
is
not
growing
populations.
Increased
demands
for
water,
less
surface
area
for
recharge
and
increased
pollution
all
contribute
to
the
fact
that
we
need
to
conserve
this
crucial
resource.
AN
AN
AN
I
want
the
conservation
of
our
delicate
ecosystems
to
be
forefront
so
as
the
second
largest
city
in
orange
county,
the
city
of
apopka
has
a
duty
to
protect
florida's,
delicate
ecosystem,
but
changing
the
land
at
the
end
of
downtown,
from
agricultural,
with
one
home
per
acre
aloud,
say
to
an
acre
with
hot
or
not
an
acre.
Sorry,
an
area
with
hundreds
of
homes.
Apopka
allows
more
strain
to
be
put
on
our
delicate
overtaxed
aquifers.
AN
AN
I
AK
C
A
A
AK
Y
Y
Does
staff
have
things
that
you
can
point
to
to
say.
Yeah
we've
mitigated
this
concern
because
here's
how
we're
going
to
request
the
applicant
to
design
where
we've
mitigated
this
concern,
because
x
y
is
the
other
things
right.
It's
the
assurances
that
the
board
has
when
we
take
a
formal
position
on
this,
because
obviously
this
is
just
the
first
reading.
Y
It's
going
to
come
back
for
a
second
reading,
then
we're
going
to
go
through
the
whole
design,
phase,
planning
and
all
that
sort
of
thing,
but
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
the
the
ability
to
articulate
back
to
the
residents
that
these
things
have
been
checked
and
we're
in
accordance
with
all
the
policies
that
we've
been
provided.
Y
E
A
Y
A
You
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
becker,
so
second
by
second
by
commissioner
velasquez,
all
those
in
favor
all.
I
X
AH
Good
afternoon,
this
is
the
second
public
hearing,
as
mandated
by
chapter
376
florida
statutes
in
regards
to
designating
a
florida
brownfield
area
for
the
property
located
at
1617
west
keene
road.
The
applicants
held
their
first
public
hearing
at
the
site
on
may
17th
at
6
pm.
There
was
actually
one
member
of
the
public
did
come
and
did
a
10
and
did
ask
questions
at
this
point
now.
The
matter
is
to
be
brought
for
a
second
public
hearing
the
apple
the
applicant
has
shown
and
has
met
the
five
criteria
under
statute.
AH
376.80-2C135
for
establishing
a
brownfields
designation
area
on
the
property
staff.
At
this
point
requests
approval
recommends
approval
of
the
designation.
The
applicant
is
here
to
answer
any
questions.
V
He
asked
what
was
the
proposed
redevelopment
at
the
site
and
asked
generally
about
proposed
traffic
improvements
at
okay,
apopka
road
in
keene
road,
and
we
answered
his
questions.
We
said
we're
going
to
do
a
traffic
study
as
part
of
the
redevelopment
that'll
move
forward
with
with
the
city
with
the
permitting,
and
he
was
satisfied
with
the
answer
and
he
wished
us
good
luck
with
the
project.
A
B
R
C
AO
The
final
adoption
for
the
assessment
for
the
marketplace
pond
and
just
for
the
public's
edification,
it's
the
requirement
that
the
city
had
to
go
in
to
make
correction,
take
corrective
action
to
fix
and
repair
that
pond.
I
have
notified
all
the
the
residents
by
first
class
mail
as
well
as
a
advertisement,
was
run
in
the
newspaper
and
if
the
clerk
will
please
read
the.
AO
AO
I
had
two
people
call
me:
one
was
asking
about
a
fence
to
put
around
that
pond,
because
there
was
a
fence
originally
around
the
pond.
The
engineer,
the
city
engineer
determined
that
there
was
the
slope
on
the
pond,
doesn't
meet
the
requirement
to
have
to
have
a
fence,
and
we
looked
that
it
was
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
put
a
fence
on
it
which
basically
would
have
added
to
their
cost.
C
Okay,
so
that
was
it
so
over
100,
I'm
sorry,
74
homes
only
two
contacted
you.
How
long
ago,
did
you
send
them
that
notice.
A
AL
G
Mayor
and
council,
the
city
has
been
awarded
a
cdbg
housing
grant.
We
have
actually
executed
the
grant.
You
all
approve
the
the
grant.
Actually,
at
the
last
council
meeting
the
following
policies:
we
have
seven
resolutions
today,
all
the
policies
we
have
adopted,
what
we
hope
to
adopt
and
amend
them
into
our
current
policies.
G
This
is
a
requirement
for
federal
funding
and
it
is
a
requirement
of
the
cdbg
program.
X
Resolution
I
did
have
one
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry
in
the
policy
statement.
C
X
G
Because
of
this
cdbg
grant,
it
is
focused
on
city
city
limits,
so
we
are
saying
just
in
general
for
to
the
city.
X
G
G
Well,
they
can
definitely
still
apply
as
a
vendor.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
we
hope
to
speak
on
tomorrow.
At
our
vendor
event,
we
are
open
to
anyone
as
far
as
contractors
are
concerned,
for
the
cdbg
program,
they're
just
saying
that,
as
far
as
city
is
concerned,
that
we
are
going
to
give
preference
to
those
that
are
within
the
city.
AH
The
languages
is
looking
at
as
the
is
looking
at
the
availability
of
of
mbe
and
wbe
businesses
that
are
city
a
city
of
apopka
businesses
and
then
in
formulating
or
trying
to
that
escape
policy,
but
it's
not
excluding
those
that
are
located
in
orange,
county
or
elsewhere
in
order
to
participate
in
the
program.
Okay,.
AH
C
I
I
G
So,
tomorrow,
that's
what
we're
doing
we're
actually
showing
them
exactly
how
to
become
a
vendor
for
the
city,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
abiding
by
this
policy,
okay,.
A
C
I
AA
G
Dr
jackson,
just
a
note
with
the
cdbg
housing
program,
we
are
helping
those
homes
that
are
not
meeting
code.
So
if
we
do
feel
that
a
home
is
beyond
repair,
we
are
helping
those
grant
recipients
with
a
new
home.
So
if
we
find
that
we
need
to
build
a
new
home
for
them,
we
are
going
to
help
them
with
relocation
temporary
housing
until
we
are
able
to
rebuild
their
homes.
C
System
then
I
can
ask
a
question
on
this
one:
so
a
tenant,
assistance,
relocation
and
real
property.
Will
there
be
a
guideline
for
these
residents
to
to
understand
if
they
qualify
for
this?
Oh.
G
Absolutely
so
the
next
steps
are
so
we've
executed
the
actual
agreement,
so
next
steps
we
will
bring
in
our
citizen
advisory
task
force
and
that's
actually
one
of
the
policies
making
sure
that
we're
bringing
in
the
citizens
and
during
that
process
we
will
meet
with
the
task
force
and
establish
these
policies.
G
As
far
as
the
requirements.
We
know
that
anyone
that
is
receiving
the
funding
has
to
be
from
a
low
to
moderate
income
home
and
the
cdbg
program
has
certain
qualifications,
but
the
citizens
will
be
a
part
of
that
whole
journey
and
actually
establishing
those
policies
and
we'll
bring
that
before
you
all
before
we
proceed.
I
G
We
met
with
the
task
force.
The
task
force
actually
came
in
here
had
a
meeting,
we
had
several
meetings
and
we
were
actually
that
was
one
of
the
requirements.
In
order
to
get
this
type
of
funding,
you
have
to
engage
the
citizens,
the
residents,
so
we
were
able
to.
I
believe
there
are
like
five
residents
that
are
on
the
task
force,
but
we
can
definitely
supply
you
with
that
list.
G
C
G
C
All
right,
of
course,
I
came
on
in
december,
so
I
just
either
ed
or
you
know,
kenya,
if
you
can
just
kind
of
bring
me
up
to
date,
absolutely.
I
G
If
you'll
remember,
when
we
were
building
the
community
center,
that
was
one
of
our
requirements
also,
so
we
had
a
task
force
that
actually
that
worked
on
that
project
prior
to
submission.
Also,
okay,.
C
G
X
X
X
All
right
and
and
then
on
page.
X
Displacement
of
homeowners,
it
says
when
rehabilitation
or
dwelling
is
not
feasible
or
cost
effective.
Instead
of.
R
A
B
A
G
Okay,
so
with
this
particular
resolution,
this
is
actually
like.
I've
stated
what
we're
doing
tomorrow
as
far
as
helping
our
local
businesses,
those
that
attend
the
vendor
event
just
learn
about
our
whole
procurement
process
and
all
and
actually
learn
about
our
new
procurement
now
software.
So
that
is
what
we're
going
to
do
tomorrow.
C
A
V
G
With
the
cdbg
grant,
as
I
mentioned,
citizen
participation
is
a
must,
so
this
is
why
we
did
engage
a
task
force
prior
to
submitting
the
application.
C
G
So
the
grant,
actually
the
award
period
is
three
years
so
we'll
have
them
on
hand
for
the
the
next
three
years
to
assist
with
monitoring
the
applications
and
just
asking
for
their
their
feedback.
In
regards
to
how
we're
doing
with
monitoring
the
program.
AH
It's
it's
actually,
it's
actually
in
the
actual
policy
for
the
creation.
If
you
want
to
follow
along,
it's
on
page
242
of
your
packet
city
may
establish
a
task
force,
have
no
more
no
less
than
five
members,
no
more
than
seven.
They
can
be
appointed
by
the
city
council
and
then
the
members
serve
on
two
for
two
year
terms.
AH
So
it's
the
policies
lay
out
the
technical
requirements
for
citizen
participation.
I
C
Well,
you're
bringing
me
up
to
date,
so
I
apologize
if
my
questions
feel
like
they're
redundant,
but
all
this
was
done
prior
to
my
election.
So
that's.
A
G
E
A
X
G
It
is
the
policy
of
the
city
to
prohibit
the
use
of
acceptance,
I'm
sorry
excessive
force
by
law
enforcement.
This
particular
policy
is
in
line
with
the
policy
that
our
police
department
currently
has.
So
really
nothing
has
changed.
G
This
is
just
stating
that
we
will
allow
for
citizens
or
individuals
to
engage
in
non-violent
civil
rights
demonstrations.
B
AH
Y
AH
AH
Is
actually
part,
no,
that
is
actually
part
of
the
cdbg
requirements,
both
the
federal
and
state
that
it
specifically
references
non-violence,
it's
the
non-violent
civil
rights
demonstrations,
okay,.
A
E
C
AH
Well,
no,
this
will
be
incorporated
in
our
solicitation
or
or
advertisements
for
open
employment
positions,
so
the
the
policy
as
it
comes
down
from
from
the
federal
government,
the
state
in
regards
to
cdbg
grant
states
that
we
have
to
at
a
minute.
We
have
to
state
in
our
advertisements
that
they're
that
the
city
is
an
equal
opportunity
employer.
We
have
to
look
at
look
at
the
applicants
and
try
to
strive
to
have
a
reflection
that
the
employee
that
the
the
personnel
of
the
city
matches
the
diversity
of
of
the
of
the
city.
AH
However,
the
resolution
and
the
or
and
the
grant
language
states
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
force
us
to
have
to
take
a
lesser
qualified
applicant
solely
because
of
their
race.
We
still
have
an
obligation
to
bring
the
best
qualified
applicant,
but
it's
it
creates
a
goal
to
try
to
bring
the
personnel
to
be
reflective
of
the
population
of
the
city.
X
A
I
G
If
I
remember
correctly,
I
well
one
of
the
other
factors
that
I
found
pretty
interesting
is
that
minorities
are
the
only
individuals
that
they
consider.
Minorities
are
black
or
those
that
identify
with
multiple
races.
So
if
you
are
identifying
as
hispanic,
you
are
not
considered
according
to
the
state
of
minority.
C
And
that
was
the
question
I
was
going
to
ask
you
because
I
learned
that.
X
AH
X
Y
I
B
B
I
was
curious
about
asian,
but
again
you
answered
yeah
how
they,
how
the
state
defines
it
only
other
thought
comment.
I
appreciate
your
definition
because
I
think
sometimes
people
have
pause.
Affirmative
action
is
that
forced
base
irregardless
of
their
capability,
you
know,
and
it's
not
the
our
language
is
very
clear.
As
we
look
at
it,
it's
an
equal
opportunity
and
that's
what
we
need
to
protect
that
everyone
has
that
opportunity,
and
so
I'm
at
ease
with
that.
At
reading,
our
verbage.
AH
It's
also
an
opportunity
to
to
expand
the
pool
to
extend
those
to
have
an
opportunity,
as
opposed
to
basically
not
barring
them,
from
even
getting
through
the
gate,
to
begin
with,.
B
Right
so
not
just
merely
status
but
capability,
all
the
standards
that
we
want,
because
we
have
that
responsibility
as
well
so
again
as
an
equal
opportunity.
Employer
we're
just
furthering
what
our
practice
is
and
having
a
clear
goal
of
where
we
want
to
get
to
absolutely.
G
C
R
C
You
really
caught
me
off
guard.
I
actually
just
wanted
to
say
congratulations
again
to
the
13
firefighters
that
were
sworn
took
an
oath
yesterday
and
were
pinned
by
their
families.
It
was
really
nice
to
have
our
chamber
filled
with
families.
It's
been
a
while.
C
It
was
a
proud
moment
for
the
13,
firefighters,
and
also
this
past
saturday
attended
the
last
saturday
sound,
which
was
was
excellent.
Did
it
rain?
I
think
it
did.
R
C
It
did
rain,
so
you
know
we
hope
that
our
residents
will
start
coming
out
again.
I
believe
we're
going
to
start
this
again
in
october
and
that's
pretty
much
it.
Okay.
B
Of
course
I
had
to
miss
some
of
those
things,
but
for
a
very
good
reason,
my
one
and
only
daughter
was
married
on
monday
and
a
very
beautiful
ceremony
in
the
mountains
in
north
carolina
and
now
they're
going
to
jamaica.
So
you
know
both
extremes
and
weather,
and
so
I
did
miss
that,
and
it
was
very
hard
for
me
because
I
love
our
fire
department
and
very
proud
of
them.
B
A
couple
of
things
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
that
have
come
to
note
if
you've
driven
on
north
441
there's
a
certain
strong
aroma
of
smells
like
an
italian
eatery.
There's
a
garlic
smell
and
I've
already
talked
with
staff
about
that,
and
so
I
know
they're
going
to
pursue
that
it's
kind
of
hard
to
stop
odors.
But
you
know
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
you
know
offending
the
entire
neighborhood
unless
they
really
like
garlic.
B
So
again,
I
think
that's
important
that
we
look
at
that
to
see
how
we
can
diminish
that,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
brought
up
is
graffiti
policy,
and-
and
you
know
my
concern
there
is-
you
know
some
of
that
is
just
simply
expression.
B
Some
of
that
goes
into
the
beginnings
of
of
gang
activity,
claiming
turf
and
things
like
that,
and
we've
seen
it
in
particular
at
the
store,
that's
at
the
end
of
sandpiper
and
as
soon
as
one
is
painted
over
another
one
will
come
and
put
their
mark
in,
and
I
think
it's
important
just
to
look
over
that.
You
know
for
the
aesthetics
of
our
community,
but
also
just
to
say,
hey,
apopka
is
not
okay
with
dividing
up
territories,
and
things
like
that
again.
B
Some
of
it
is
just
budding
artists
wanting
to
find
a
something
to
express
their
themself
on,
but
I
think
if
we
can
look
into
and
I've
asked
to
have
to
look
into
that
as
well,
what
possibly
some
other
city
policies
are,
so
we
can
kind
of
stay
ahead
of
that,
and
on
top
of
that,
maybe
encourage
their
creativity
elsewhere.
X
I'd
just
like
to
say
it's
also
great
to
attend
the
swearing-in
of
new
offices
here
at
the
fire
department
as
we
continue
to
grow.
I
think
I
told
the
season
that
I
was
glad
they
see
some
youth
coming
along.
That's
a
sign
of
progress,
and
so
I
was
glad
to
see
that
and
a
great
ceremony
memorial
day
I
had
the
cemetery
outstanding
participation,
great
summer,
great
speaker,
and
so
it's
well
well
attended.
I
really
appreciate
that.
Y
To
echo
thoughts,
I
I
I
feel
badly
for
missing
the
the
swearing-in
ceremony
yesterday
I
was
on
vacation
with
my
family,
so
I
apologize,
I
put
a
note
out
there
on
social
media,
but
I
want
to
say
it
verbally.
I
just
say
congratulations
to
all
of
those
that
were
sworn
in
and
are
going
to
faithfully
service
our
city.
Y
So
thanks
to
them
two
just
a
follow-up
from
last
meeting,
I
didn't
get
any
communication
around
any
thought
partnership,
but
is
what's
the
timeline
for
having
a
feedback
around
the
discount
store
presentation
that
we
had
last
last
meeting.
R
Y
Y
Maybe
because
that's
what
prompted
me
to
send
a
note
to
you,
edward
around
the
ordinance
that
was
cited
around
the
black,
the
backflow
devices
and
glenn
was
able
to
respond
back
to
say.
Y
The
ordinance
that
was
attached
was
superseded
by
new
language
within
our
land
development
code
and
was
also
prompted
to
respond
back
to
say
that
the
new
code
requires
basically
residents
to
make
sure
that
their
backflow
devices
are
up
to
standard
and
certified,
and
then,
lastly,
that
there
was
potentially
a
new
ordinance
that
was
going
to
come
before
council
to
expand
upon
that
even
further.
And
so
when
is
that
ordinance
coming
before
us?
Do
you
have
a
timeline
for
that.
AE
We're
currently
we're
having
the
rate
study,
as
you
know,
with
the
with
the
utility
rates
that
is
part
of
the.
What
we've
included
in
that
study
is
have
them
look
at
what
would
it?
What
would
they
backflow
program
like
that?
Look
like
what
would
the
fee
be?
What
would
the
cost
be?
What
would
what
would
the?
AE
How
would
that
look
from
the
city
side
and
from
the
customer
side
so
that
they're
looking
at
that
currently,
through
the
rate
study,
I
would
imagine
that
ordinance
would
come
once
they
established
that
that
when
they
bring
that
back
to
you,
when
they're
studying
to
lay
all
that
out,
that
would
that
would
be
the
place
where
the
ordinance
would
actually
take
change
to
implement
that
cost.
Y
So
the
only
the
last
question
there
so
like
currently
what
our
current
current
code
states
is
that
it's
the
resident's
responsibility,
but
do
we
track
it
and
is
there
any
punitive
action?
If
people
don't
prove
that
they've
done,
because
there's
a
there's
a
greater
need
for
us
to
want
that
to
happen
right
because
we
don't
want
intermingling
of
bad
water
with
good
water
right.
AE
Well,
I
think-
and
if
you,
if
you
look
around
we're
no
different
than
any
other
city
well,
the
language
is
almost
exactly
the
same
across
all
of
the
jurisdictions.
We
have
a
system
currently,
commissioner,
that
we
use
that
we
follow
that
tracks,
the
the
backflows
that
we
currently
have.
So
we
have
a
system.
We
have
a
back.
We
have
you
know
we
can
we
send
out
noted
we
can
send
out
notices.
AE
Do
all
the
residents.
Do
you
know
do
that?
No,
it's
a
very,
very
small
percentage.
Do
we
have
the
ability
to
shut
them
off
for
that
yeah?
That's
there!
Well,
you
could.
We
could
shut
the
shut
them
off
as
well.
I
think
that's
why
we're
looking
at
this
overall
with
the
rate
study
looking
at
what
would
it
be
and
it's
it's
hard,
the
residents
struggle
and
and
and
compliance
on
their
own,
the
way
that
it's
written
now?
So
that's
why
we're
looking
at
in
this
rate
study?
Y
AE
Y
AE
We
have
them,
we
have
a
software
that
tracks
them
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
everyone,
everybody
has
not
changed
them.
Okay,.
Y
AE
It's
not
it's
not
inspected
to
them
or
done,
though,
so
and
currently
it's
their
responsibility,
which
is
why
we're
looking
at
this
other
method
that
you
know
looking
some
of
our
neighbors
and
and
really,
I
think,
with
the
exception
of
orange
county,
I
think
everybody
else
does
it
this
way
and
struggles
with
the
same
situation
so
we're
looking
at
in
that
rate
study.
How
would
this
look
if
we
took
that
on
as
a
city
cost.
I
Y
Gotcha
and
then
the
last
one
I
have
is
more
of
a.
I
don't
want
to
go
too
long
here,
but
the
a
resident
had
approached
me
last
year
around
and
we
had
conversation
about
this
a
couple
weeks
ago,
the
bay
ridge,
cemetery
over
off
joey,
mcguck,
mclaughlin
avenue
or
road
up
off
plymouth.
Sorrento,
it's
orange
county
property.
Y
If
something
doesn't
pan
out
with
orange
county
is,
would
it
be
appropriate
to
advise
that
that
landowner
to
work
with
staff
to
possibly
vacate
or
donate,
that
property
to
the
city?
Have
us
annex
it
and
potentially
look
at
us
take
on
maintenance
responsibility
in
our
budget
season
upcoming?
It's
a
two
and
a
half
acre
piece
of
property.
It's
got
some
pretty.
You
know
well-known
former
popkins
that
are
that
are
laid
to
rest.
There
I
mean
streets
named
shopkey
and
the
shopkee
family
is
buried
in
there.
Y
In
addition
to
some
other
people,
I
think
getting
it
it's
severely
overgrown.
You
can
hardly
see
stuff
in
there.
Obviously,
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
volunteer
effort
to
get
it
initially
cleared
out,
but
it's
the
ongoing
maintenance
that
becomes
a
question.
AE
A
All
right
next
up,
edward.
AE
All
right
the
same
spreadsheet
you
see
every
month,
but
this
this
month
is
actually
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see,
but
you
have
it
in
your
packet.
You
have
the
sheet.
There's
there's
some
positive
news
on
this
for
this
month.
You
can
see
that
the
for
the
current
year
that
our
sales
tax
was
a
little
over
962
thousand
dollars,
that's
the
biggest
month
we've
had
since
coven.
So
that's
some
positive
news.
AE
If
you
look
back
to
if
you
look
at
the
percentage
over
the
last
fiscal
year
and
keep
in
mind
this
is
the
month
last
year
where
we
had
the
hit.
This
was
the
drop,
the
big
drop
or
eight
one
of
the
big
drops,
and
then
you
can
see
that
it's
65
above
what
it
was
last
year
at
this
time.
So
that's
some
positive
news.
Over
the
prior
year
I
did
go
back
and
look
at
the
year
before
keep
in
mind
that
fiscal
year
2019
we're
looking
at
2021
and
usually
you
have
a
growth
factor.
AE
You
should
have
a
growth
factor,
but
looking
back
to
fiscal
year,
2019
it's
about
fifty
six
thousand
dollars
less
than
what
it
was
back
in
fy19
for
this
month
or
about
five
and
a
half
percent
lower
than
what
it
was
in
19..
So
that's
some
positive
news
and,
as
you
can
see
too,
if
you
look
to
the
right
you
can
see.
If
you
remember
on
the
last
month
the
percentage
was
closer
to
nine
percent,
now
we're
down
to
about
seven
a
little
over
seven,
seven
and
a
half
percent.
AE
So
as
we
watch
these
numbers
come
in
for
these
months
as
we
move
forward
granted
we're
comparing
to
to
last
year
when
the
times
were
really
really
tough,
we
got
hit
really
really
hard,
so
it'll
be.
AE
Hopefully
we
will
keep
this
this
swing,
and
so
there's
some
positive
views
here,
because
it
does
kind
of
swing
the
pendulum
back
a
little
bit
on
when
it
comes
to
the
yearly
sales
tax
number
so
critical
that
we
keep
watching
this,
because
this
is
this
is
one
of
our
bigger
revenues,
and
so
I'm
going
to
keep
you
up
to
date
on.
AE
Yeah,
I
can
give
you
and
it's
it's
funny
that
you
say
that
today,
because
I
called
them
the
last
two
days
and
I
actually
was
on
the
phone
with
them
this
morning.
AE
They
are
hoping
within
the
next
two
or
three
weeks
to
come
out
with
a
an
actual
formula
that
all
everybody
can
use,
because
it's
very
complicated
if
you
try
to
read
through
the
u.s
treasury's
documentation
and
how
they
implement
it,
it's
very
very
complicated,
so
they
are
going
to
put
together
something
that
cities
can
use
to
help
them
calculate
that
number,
which
is
very
critical.
It's
important
that
we
get
that
formula
right
because
those
dollars
can
only
be
spent.
Those
dollars
can
be.
Those
dollars
have
a
little
more
leeway
than
than
the
other
dollars.
AE
So
I
called
called
and
talked
checked
on
that
there's
some
issues
with
the
portal
trying
to
get
the
money
right
now.
The
irs
is
having
some
the
treasury's
having
some
issues
with
that,
but
we
continue
to
monitor
that
just
as
soon
as
we
can.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
get
our
first
portion,
even
if
we
don't
know
exactly
where
the
dollars
can
go
or
how
they
can
be
spent.
I'd
like
to
at
least
get
it
into
our
account.
So
we're
continuing
to
watch
that
every
day.
AE
AE
Correct
currently
we're
still
sitting
at
that
7
million
number.
If
you
remember
it
was
22,
they
came
back
and
they
told
us
that
there
was
some
mix-up
in
the
way
they
did
the
numbers
and
how
our
city
was
included
as
a
non-entitlement
city.
First
and
now
we're
a
metro
city.
So,
but
I
will
tell
you,
I
have
asked
that
question
more
than
once
too,
because
I
just
would
like
to
know
at
least
how
we
got
there
so
they're
looking
into
that
as
well,
for
us
to
see
to
see
how
that
why
that
number
changed.
AE
B
B
So
it's
not
going
to
be
typical
of
what
we've
seen
in
the
past
per
se,
but
just
looking
at
that
conservatively,
because
usually
what
goes
up
you
know
is
going
to
try
and
find
its
level
and
with
it
being
really
volatile.
It
can
do
a
lot
of
this.
So
I
just
again
I'm
glad
for
the
conservative
measure
of
approaching
this,
so
that
if
that
should
happen,
we
can
write
it
on
out
and
just
keeping
that
in
mind
as
we
go
forward.
But
it's
great
to
see
these
numbers
coming
up.
A
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that
was
interesting-
we
just
report
from
the
our
tourist
industry
is
that
that,
like
the
uk
and
canada,
our
two
biggest,
you
know
partners
as
far
as
tourism
are
way
way
down.
So
I
think
these
numbers
are
based
on
drivable.
A
AE
Kind
of
projections
I
got
the
we
got
the
ad
valorem
projections
in
keep
in
mind.
This
is
an
estimate
hot
off
the
press.
Today
it
is
it's
a
good
number
I'll
tell
you
that
it's
a
good
number!
It
is
right
now
we're
sitting
at
the
actual
taxable
value
is
a
little
over
4.2
billion
dollars.
AE
Last
year
it
was
3.8,
so
it's
about
a
10
increase
and
taxable
value
over
the
prior
fiscal
year.
So
again
they
just
give
you
one
number.
Last
year,
I
think
we
were
eight
so
we're
saying
10
percent
I'm
trying
to
do
a
little
more
research
and
dig
into
that
because
I
like
to,
of
course,
is
what
I
like
to
know.
I
like
to
know
what
that
is
new
value,
so
we'll
we're
trying
to
get
all
that
information.
AE
What's
the
period
reporting
period
so
that
that
is
your
tax
year
ending
you
have
to
be
in
in
21
to
have
it
for
22.,
so
this.
So
this
is
so
it's
it'll
be
fiscal
year,
22
tax
year
21..
So
I'm
talking
I'm
talking
next
year
budget.
So
it's
10
right
a
little
over
10
increase
in
taxable
value.
Keep
in
mind
that's
the
best
estimate.
It
really
changes
so,
but.
AE
And
that's-
and
I
I
kind
of
commissioned
was
kind
of
thinking
that
too,
especially
you
know,
we
were
eight
last
year.
I
thought
we
would
be
a
little
higher
than
that.
But
again
I
want
to
they
just
give
you
one
number,
and
I
want
to
dig
in
to
kind
of
see
what
what
has
come
on
to
the
tax
rolls,
because
that's
the
important,
significant
piece
what
has
come
on
to
the
tax
rolls
this
year
versus.
A
What's
interesting
is
because
of
our
mix,
which
I
don't
think
is
where
we
want
to
be,
which
is
more
residential
than
commercial
residential
has
gone
up
faster.
You
know,
obviously
like
some
of
the
seminole
county
cities,
where
they've
got
a
lot
of
office
space,
which
obviously
is
empty,
so
their
values
are
going
down
and
residential
still
holding
up
or,
if
not
increasing,
so
it's
kind
of
a
the
balance
which
doesn't
work
as
well
as
you're
trying
to
have
you
know
more
restaurants
and
retail.
A
AF
Hi,
hello,
commissioners,
so
the
audit
still
going
on
it
stores,
I'm
going
to
say
the
end.
We
have
asked
for
an
extension
just
to
make
sure
that
me
and
edward
can
finish
the
statistical
information
of
the
financials,
but
I
have
asked
on
a
and
I'm
going
to
say
it
twice
preliminary
preliminary
report
over
the
phone
in
the
auditors.
AF
It's
a
new
company
that
you
all
chosen,
but
he
has
says
that-
and
I
don't
have
the
exact
count,
but
I
think
last
year
and
the
year
before,
you
have
over
maybe
five
six
findings
on
the
financial
statements
and
this
year,
as
far
as
he
has
so
far,
he
only
has
two
and
the
findings.
The
preliminary
findings
are
basically
some
accruals
that
last
year
in
2019
were-
and
I
don't
want
to
say
booking
correctly,
but
we're
booked
under
and
their
revenues.
So
it's
a
good
thing.
AF
AF
So
the
auditor
find
out
that
for
the
past
year
that
should
have
been
booked
in
september,
so
we're
catching
up
this
year
for
19..
So
those
two
findings
for
me
with
my
experience,
even
when
he
puts
them
there,
it's
okay,
we
can
live
with
those.
So
as
a
preliminary,
we
have
great
news
that
the
city
of
apopka
will
do
great
and
it's
been
hard
work
and
great
dedication
from
the
current
employees
and
myself
and
the
support
of
edward
and
the
mayor.
A
A
Any
legal
issues-
okay-
I
guess
that's
up
to
me-
then
we're
next
and
last
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
Okay,
the
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
rock
springs.
I
know
that
you've
got
in
front
of
you,
michael's,
the
rd
ordinance
that
he's
kind
of
crafted
from
the
one
in
manatee
county.
So
just
take
a
look
at
that.
A
My
hope
is
that
we'll
we'll
get
to
a
point
that
next,
the
next
council
meeting
will
go
ahead
and
take
it
up
and
and
and
pass
it
out,
the
the
other
one.
Let's
see
where's
my
they
were
we're
supposed
to
have
had
a
the
three-way
agreement
done
from
kurt
ardeman
and
so
we've
got.
A
You
should
have
in
front
of
you,
the
small
print,
the
land
swap
and
anyway,
the
there's
some
things
that
weren't
right
in
that
there
were
the
things
that
we
kind
of
had
agreed
to
and
and
I'll
just
kind
of
go
over.
So
I'm
hoping
we
get
those.
A
What
I'm
going
to
ask
them
to
do
is
have
something
that
that's
that
will
get
out
early
like
first
part
of
next
week
that
so
we
get
you
get
plenty
of
time
to
meet
with
michael
or
whoever
you
want
to
meet
with,
and
I'd
like
to
at
some
point
have
another
you
know
community
meeting
out
at
out
at
the
amphitheater
with
you
know,
be
it
sunshine,
so
everybody
can
attend,
but
yeah
there's
some
things
in
that
that
the
the
initial
draft
agreement,
that
that
aren't
what
we
kind
of
had
agreed
to
so
anyway,
we'll
we'll.
AH
Of
a
three-party
agreement,
what
was
submitted
to
us
was
a
memorandum
with
bullet
points
as
to
what
the
agreement
would
have
and
there
the
comments
that
are
on
those
are
basically
where
we
diverge
in
any
type
of
agreement
as
to
the
language
that
should
be
included
in
any
three-party
agreement.
AH
AH
AH
Are
my
comments
which
I
haven't
transmitted
back
to
kurt?
Those
were
internal
comments
for
us
to
to
to
go
over
certain
questions,
certain
terms
that
just
were
not
consistent
with
what
we
had
appeared
to
come
to
a
to
an
accord
on
as
to
what
what
should
be
included
in
the
three-party
agreement.
AH
Haven't
said,
I
haven't
sent
that
back,
that's
that
is,
that
was
what
was
sent
to
us,
and
I
think
I
got
that
late
yesterday
afternoon
and
those
are
just
the
in
the
comments
that
will
be
will
be
sent
back
to
mr
hardman,
but
I
wanted
to
send
them
to
and
have
them
presented
to
you
also
to
to
go
over.
At
least
the
very
thin
bullet
points
that
we
received.
A
AH
Right,
the
other
big
ones
right.
Other
items
we've
not
agreed
on
pond
the
city
is
not
going
to
be
responsible
for
the
cost
of
every
election.
The
district
is
to
have
the
city
agreed
that
the
city
would
fund
the
initial
election,
which
would
actually
be
the
referendum
to
create
the
district,
but
the
city
will
not
fund
their
their
elections,
to
elect
board
of
supervisors
or
any
of
their
other
further
referendum.
AH
Questions
in
regards
to
bond
spending
there's
some
disagreement
into
what
responsibilities
the
city
has
as
to
contributions
to
their
irrigation
systems
and
other
repairs
which
were
not
items
that
were
necessarily
discussed
between
the
the
parties
that
we'll
have
to
go
back
to
to
them
to
state
that
when
we
didn't
come
to
an
agreement,
nor
did
we
propose,
nor
necessarily
accept
those
requests
that
they
have
placed
upon
the
city
in
regards
to
the
condition
of
the
golf
course
properties
going
back
to
them
or
going.
A
To
them
and
the
discount
on
the
water
was
based
on
a
golf
course
and
just
the
golf
course
not
the
homeowner
association
properties,
because
if
you,
if
I
give
them
a
discount
on
their
homeowner
association
properties,
I've
got
to
give
it
to
every
community
across
the
city.
So
if
they
want
to
do
a
golf
course,
then
we
could
be
consistent
that
if
errol
were
to
come
up
with
a
plan,
they
want
to
go
to
a
golf
course.
A
We
could
give
them
a
a
a
special
golf
course
rate,
but
we
can't
we're
not
we're
not
here
to
give
rock
springs
ridge
a
discount
on
their
on
their
reclaimed,
water
for
their
their
right-of-ways
and
the
the
entrances,
and
all
that
so
anyway,
if
you've
got
any
questions
for
michael
just
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
him.
A
My
hope
is
we
get
something
that
we
can.
We
can
take
up
next
council
meeting
to
to
pass
out.
So
if
we
get
an
agreement
that
we
feel
comfortable
with,
we
would
take
it
to
a
community
meeting
out
the
amphitheater
and
then
bring
it
up
to
the
council
meeting.
But
I
was
ready
to
put
some
dates
on
it,
but
I'm
I'm
not
there
yet
until
we
get
a
little
farther
along.
AH
C
So
you're
planning
to
bring
this
back
for
the
next
city
council
meeting
when
are
you
planning
to
have
the
community
meeting
I
mean
is:
is
the
residents
gonna
have
enough
time
to
look
this
over
okay,
okay,
yeah.
Y
C
Y
A
Y
Y
Yeah,
okay,
yeah
gotcha!
No,
because
the
way
that
I
I
interpret
this
playing
out
right
did
you
you've
got
the
draft
ordinance
right.
We
all
come
up
here
and
we
entertain
this
piece
of
business.
We
either
vote
for
or
we
don't
vote
for
it
right.
If
it's
some,
if
it
does
pass,
then
that's
what
you're
saying
is-
would
go
to
the
referendum
that
people
vote
on
correct,
correct.
Y
AH
I'm
thinking,
but
I
mean
that's-
that's
really
up
to
the
residents
of
rock
springs,
to
to
to
weigh
the
impacts
of
what
a
recreation
district
will
do
and
then,
whether
or
not
I
mean
we
there,
there
can
be
polls,
we
can.
The
residents
can
pull
themselves.
But,
like
has
been
said,
the
ultimate
poll
is
an
actual
election.
You
may
have
poll
results,
but
you
don't
know
their
end
results
until
you.
AH
Actually,
you
know
in
this
case
it's
a
mail-in
ballot,
but
until
you
flip
that
lever
on
the
in
the
for
the
ballot
you're,
you
don't
have
the
the
exact
results,
but
what
this
ordinance
does
is
it
creates
the
body
that
would
be
able
to
to
be
the
entity
that
would
take
title
eventually
from
now.
I
think
I
believe
the
idea
of
the
tri-party
agreement
is
that
the
three
parties
to
the
agreement
would
be
the
developer,
the
city
and
the
homeowners
association.
AH
However,
then
that
is,
trans
the
properties
or
whatever
is
transferred
from
the
hoa
to
the
recreation
district.
That's
going
to
be
between
them,
but
any
type
of
financial
liability
as
it
regards
the
city
is
going
to
belong
to
the
hoa
or
whoever
the
hoa
is
going
to
is
assigning
that
to
whether
it
be
at
the
recreation
district.
Y
Yeah
and
I
get
all
the
inner
working,
and
so
my
big
thing
is
just
again
educating
people
in
rock
springs
ridge
to
say:
hey
if
we
were
in
this
tri-party,
if
we're
selling
it
to
the
owner
that
property
that
has
value
and
understanding
those
rock
springs
rich
residents,
how
do
they
interpret
and
internalize
what
the
value
of
the
the
true
value
of
that
property
is?
Are
they
willing
to
pay
more
for
something
that
may
be
over
appraised
and
then,
obviously,
all
the
operational
costs
that
need
to
be
considered?
Y
And
you
know
they
went
back
to
a
golf
course
what
that
cost
looks
like?
I
know.
We've
said
in
previous
meetings
that
that's
not
the
responsibility
of
the
city,
though,
with
all
these
community
meetings.
I
think
there
might
be
an
idea
that
rock
springs
ridge
are
leaning
on
the
city
to
provide
some
sort
of
guidance,
some
sort
of
feedback
in
terms
of
what
those
costs
might
look
like,
because
we're
a
little
bit
more,
maybe
in
tune
with
what
those
might
be
well.
AH
At
the
end
of
the
day,
how
they're
going
to
operate
their
land
is
a
is
a
determination
for
the
residents,
whether
through
the
hoa
or
through
the
recreation
district.
On
their
end
there
to
to
be
able
to
determine,
I
don't
think
it's.
The
city
doesn't
necessarily
have
an
obligation
to
state
it's
going
to
cost
you
x
to
run
a
golf
course.
It's
going
to
cost
you
why
to
run
a
passive
park,
it's
going
to
cost
you
z,
if
you're
going
to
just
keep
it
as
wild
conservation
lands.
C
Well,
my
concern
is:
we
haven't
really
gotten
a
real
feedback
from
all
the
residents.
I
mean
we
have
groups,
we
have
a
strong
group,
and
I
accept
that
to
you.
Then
we
have
a
very
quiet
group.
That's
not
really
coming
out,
but
they're
contacting.
Of
course,
me
there's
another
community
leader
in
rock
springs
ridge
that
this
particular
group,
that's
unsure.
Of
what
they're
buying
into
has
been
contacting
that
community
person
and
saying
we.
We
don't
understand
what
we're
getting
into
so
before.
C
We
even
get
to
this
ordinance
I'd
like
to
kind
of
get
a
real
feedback
from
the
community
in
the
majority
to
say
this
is
what
you're
buying
into
and
with
all
of
this
I'm
not
seeing
that
I
mean
I'm
not
seeing
that
as
a
as
a
resident,
I
mean
I'm
seeing
the
land
swap
and
we're
gonna.
You
know
we're
gonna
create
this
recreational
district,
but
I'm
a
resident
myself
and
I
still
don't
understand
what
we're
buying
into
so.
If
I
don't
understand
it,
I
can't
convince
another
resident
we're
buying
into
this.
AH
AH
The
city
will
the
city
is
presenting
the
options
with
the
creation
of
a
recreation
district
being
one
of
the
options,
the
other
option,
that's
always
on
the
table,
is
the
hoa
can
just
take
this
over
and
the
hoa
runs
it,
and
maybe
the
third
party
not
create
a
district.
If
the
hoa
can
fund
the
acquisition
of
the
land,
that's
always
been
on
the
table,
but
the
actual
implementation
of
I
guess
to
put
in
some
illustrative
terms.
AH
It's
the
dog
chasing
the
car.
Once
you
catch
the
car,
then
it's
up
to
the
residents
to
figure
out
what
you're
going
to
do
with
the
car
and
and
it's
we
we've
given
you
different.
We've
provided
different
instruments
for
implementing
the
ultimate
goal,
which
is
to
have
title
to
the
to
the
golf
course.
Once
you
have
the
golf
course
that's
up
to
the
residents
to
to
decide
what
to
do
with
it.
The
city's
obligation
is.
AH
C
All
right
all
right,
so
I
I
guess
at
this
point
then
it
would
be
that
I
would
have
to
refer
to
the
hoa
to
ask
them
to
go
out
into
the
community
and
get
some
kind
of
consensus.
AH
It's
been
our
understanding.
I
think
that
we've
been
waiting
for
the
hoa
to
come
back
to
us
to
state.
What
is
what
is
the
consensus
of
the
residents
and
and
the
city
is.
I
would
advise
the
city
not
to
get
involved
in
any
type
of
inter-political
debates
between
the
residents
of
of
the
neighborhood
and
and
their
association.
That's
not
a
role,
that's
not
a
an
argument
or
a
discussion
for
the
city
to
get
involved
in
or
the
city
to
take
sides
in
city's.
Only
concern
is
we
are
presenting
the
property
to
the
residents.
A
C
A
A
R
C
So
at
this
point
I
I
guess
I'm
gonna
have
to
refer
to
the
hoa
and
say
for
them
to
kind
of
get
a
consensus
from
all
the
residents
correct,
because
at
the
at
the
community
we
did
have
a
big
presentation.
AH
Correct
and
that
I
I
agree
with
you
there
and
I
would
I
would
counsel
that
and
it
fails
correct.
I
would
counsel
that
you
would.
You
would
want
to
see
that
there
is
a
consensus
to
move
forward
to
go
forward
with
the
election.
Exactly,
however,
again
we
may
have
a
consensus
and
when
it
comes
down
it
goes
to
the
vote,
but
that's.
C
Okay,
it
may
fail,
but
that's
what
the
vote's
for
you
have.
The
most
important
question
is
that
we
have
a
general
consensus
of
our
residents
and
I
can
tell
you
that
I
have
actually
met
some
residents
that
have
said
oh
we're
so
happy.
The
city
is
buying
the
golf
course
for
us
that
is
so
wrong
and
then
like
no
we're
they're
not
buying
it
for
us,
and
so
I
have
to
correct
that
so
again,
you
know
I
can
keep
going
back
and
forth,
but
I
will
contact
the
hoa
and
kind
of
say
to
them.
AH
I
think
the
most
important
thing
is
regards
to
the
city's
position
and
the
city's
actions
in
this
that
it's
been
fairly
clear,
that
what
we're
looking
at
accomplishing
is
a
land
swap
in
which
the
developer
and
the
city
are
swapping.
The
golf
course
for
the
city's
lands
and
then
once
the
city
has
tie,
has
obtained
the
course
through
the
land,
swap
that
the
city
is
conveying
the
course
to
the
association
or
the
recreation
district.
The
city
is
going
to
be
paid
for
that
conveyance.
AH
We're
not
donating
we're,
not
giving
it
for
free,
how
that
will
then
be
implemented,
whether
it
be
through
the
hoa
through
the
recreation
district.
That's
the
determination
for
the
residents
to
make,
but
I
think
that
when
you've
got
there's
like
three
steps
here,
it's
clear
that
what
steps
one
and
two
are-
and
that's
that
is
public
knowledge
and
that's
been
expressed
step
three-
is
that
acquisition
of
the
course
by
the
residents?
AH
C
Well,
I
will,
I
will
definitely
just
get
in
contact
with
them
and
just
make
sure
that
they
at
least
have
made
the
effort
to
get
a
general
consensus
of
the
community
before
this
comes
before
us.
Okay,.
A
C
C
That
and
I
mean
even
the
property
that
we
are
swapping
with
him.
You
know
I've
voiced,
it
has
the
tower.
One
property
has
a
tower,
and
so
I
have
concerns
about
that
and
that's
for
the
city
I
mean
I'll
cross
that
bridge
when
I
need
to,
but
right
now
the
bridge
I
went
across
is
to
get
a
general
consensus
of
the
rock
springs
ridge
residents.
A
Other
comments,
all
right-
let's
see
here
next
up,
sheila
oaks
update,
we
edward
reached
out
to
the
to
a
contractor,
and
I
mean
I'm
telling
you
the
materials
out
there
across
the
state
are
just
hard
to
come
by
and
looked
like.
A
If
the
structures
arrive
earlier
could
finish
that
by
7
21
phase,
3
start
7
22
finish
by
7
30.,
so
we're
just
waiting.
It's
we've
got
the
the
five
they
think
he's
identified
that
are
in
the
you
know,
out
in
the
yard
that
didn't
go
on
another
job
and
he
can.
He
can
you
know
craft
them
into
something
that'll
work
so
that
that's
that's
awesome
so
we'll
get
hopefully
get
those
in
the
ground
really
really
soon
so
we're
excited
about.
You
know
the
contractor
edward
worked
hard
to
get.
A
You
know
something
obviously
we'd
like
to
get
in
before
the
rainy
season
starts,
so
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
good
good
thing.
Camp
weewa
just
had
a
meeting
with
the
folks
at
camp
wewa.
A
They
did
get
a
survey
done
an
aerial
survey,
so
here
are
the
numbers
that
they
came
back
with
they
added
about
from.
We
were
at
50,
usable
and
they've,
got
it
up
to
56.69,
which
raises
the
value
according
to
them
to
4.7
million.
So
what
I've
done
is
I've
given
these
these
two,
the
aerial
and
the
information
back
to
integra,
which
was
the
low
appraised,
value
company
and
they're
going
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Come
back
to
us
with
a
number.
A
You
know
we
we
initially
offered
the
4.2
million
dollars
and
they're
gonna
come
back
with
a
number
and
at
that
point,
we'd
bring
it
back
to
city
council
and
if
it's
something
we
you
know
want
to,
do
we'll
have
another
opportunity
to
second
bite
that
apple
dep
response
regarding
border
lake
drainage
wells
still
trying
to
work
on
them.
Hopefully,
we
can
get
some
an
opportunity
to
do
some.
A
Some
water
quality
improvements
without
having
to
dig
up
436,
so
it's
hopefully
we'll
know
that
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
the
I
tell
you
I
was
in
in
down
in
sarasota,
went
down
for
the
florida
chamber
foundation,
prosperity
project.
What
a
great
day
it
was
down
there.
A
good
friend
of
mine,
jimmy
patronis,
is
one
of
the
main
speakers
and
a
couple
other
friends
that
I've
served
with
in
the
legislature
and
so
kind
of
the
kind
of
takeaway
is
that
there
are
10.
You
know.
A
A
A
Oh
okay,
awesome
great!
Thank
you,
kate,
so
yeah
really
really
well
done.
I
was.
I
was
glad
that
I
could
attend
that.
So
if
you
get
a
chance,
take
a
look
at
that.
You've
got
the
kind
of
the
outline
of
the
the
the
event
but
good,
definitely
worth
worth
a
read.
A
Was
last
tuesday
or
wednesday.
C
A
A
A
E
C
A
A
Okay,
the
pulse
clinical
vaccinations
we
held
at
ketland
nelson
park
on
the
29th
and
the
30th.
We
had
only
had
25
people
that
got
vaccinated.
A
C
C
A
Yeah,
okay,
two
last
things:
one:
the
obituary
here:
I've
got
of
a
great
friend
of
mine.
I
A
Jim
cersely,
I
just
want
to
read
this
because
what
a
wonderful
guy
that
he
was
known
him
for
a
long
time
matter
of
fact,
jim
cersely
sold
me
my
first
house
in
1980,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
on
tomorrow,
through
the
sunday
we're
going
to
have
the
flag
at
half-mast
in
his
honor
well-deserved
individual
on
sunday
may
30
2021,
we
learned
of
the
passing
of
the
combat
disabled,
veteran
and
dav
disabled
american
veterans,
past
national
commander,
jim
james
cirsley,
who
resided
in
apopka
florida
jim
enlisted
in
the
u.s
army
in
1966
and
volunteered
to
serve
in
vietnam.
A
A
A
A
A
It's
winky
yeah,
yes,
just
if
you'll,
google,
jim
cersely
and
there's
one
that's
a
podcast,
that's
about
two
hours
long,
but
it's
about
his
entire
life,
and
I
mean
it
it
will.
It
will
bring
you
to
tears.
It's
just
an
amazing
story
about
a
an
individual
who
didn't
let
his
disability
slow
him
down
one
bit.
So
it's
you
know:
it'll
it'll,
it'll,
pull
at
your
heartstrings
for
sure
what
a
great
individual
last
but
not
least,
budget
came
out
today,
and
we
now
have
a
million
dollars
toward
our
fire
station
number
six.
A
So
we
were
able
to
with
the
help
of
yeah
I
had.
I
had
help
from
kate
manley
helped
us
a
little
bit.
I
had
senator
bracey
and
camilla
brown
representative
put
the
bill
in
into
into
place,
and
so
we
third
time's
a
charm.
So
with
that
we'll
call
it
a
day.
Thank.