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Apopka City Council Budget Workshop for Fiscal Year 2022/2023 at City Hall on July 25, 2022 at 5 PM.
This first meeting will cover Public Safety and Information Technology. To view the meeting agenda visit: https://www.apopka.gov/agenda. To view the tentative City Budget visit: https://www.apopka.gov/budget.
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E
I
believe
I
was
duped
into
not
doing
a
powerpoint,
but
we're
gonna
make
it
through
this
with
just
what
I
have
so
I'm
gonna
start
off
with
the
highlights
of
overall,
where
our
budget
is
today
where
it
was
last
year
and
how
we
got
where
we
are
I'll,
certainly
tell
you
where
we
went
from
different
budget
lines
where
money
was
transferred
over
just
you're,
going
to
see
some
large
large
changes
in
2223
a
fiscal
year
so
start
out
with
we're.
Looking
for
two
additional
personnel,
we're
looking
for
a
gis
coordinator
and
we.
E
E
Cra
mapping,
making
it
interactive,
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
can
be
done,
but
we
don't
have
the
personnel
to
do
it
right
now.
So
that
is
one
of
the
actual
requests
we
have
and
also
I
need
another
social
media
graphic
designer
you
name
it
person
in
here
to
assist
and
get
us
so
we're
able
to
promote
the
city
more.
I
have
an
individual
doing
this
who's
doing
an
outstanding
job,
but
she
is
a
person
and,
with
the
department's
request,
pulling
it
from
side
to
side.
I
can't
there's
only
so
much.
E
E
E
It's
a
necessity
with
today
age
with
malware
and
ransomware.
Going
on
that.
I
need
some
sort
of
other
form
of
assurance
that
if
somebody
were
to
get
compromised
or
thinking
that
they're
going
to
a
trusted
site
using
their
password,
they're
gonna,
you
know
enter
it
into
the
sharepoint
site.
Here's
your
document!
E
You
know,
mr
smith,
that
happens
way
way
too
often,
unfortunately,
and
once
your
password's
compromised,
they
have
free
reign
to
get
onto
your
account
and
start
trying
to
you
know
impersonate
you
and
then,
of
course,
if
they
get
something
local
on
your
machine,
then
we
get
the
ransomware
incident
so
I'd.
Rather
that
not
happen.
So
one
of
the
first
things
I
did
again
was
to
go
ahead
and
institute
the
multi-factor
authentication
and
it
went
over
pretty
well,
not
too
many
complaints
out
of
it.
E
Next
portion
is
going
to
be
the
motorola
p25
system,
that
is,
the
radio
communications
for
public
safety
that
encompasses
public
service
as
well.
The
wireless
ring
around
the
city,
that's
how
all
of
our
remote
locations,
the
fire
departments,
236,
northwest,
rec,
grossenbach
or
some
of
the
water
treatment
plants,
that's
how
their
data
gets
back
and
forth
to
us
so
that
maintenance
through
motorola
went
up
four
percent
this
year,
so
that
was
a
another
thirty
five
thousand
forty
thousand
dollar
increase
in
the
forty
six
hundred
lines.
So
you
know
where
that
is
so.
E
Another
thing
that
motorola
kind
of
dropped
on
me
this
year
is
that
they're
no
longer
doing
their
I'm
gonna
call
an
antivirus
but
manage
detection
response
on
the
p25
system
again,
which
is
the
radio
side
of
it.
We
either
need
to
opt
out
saying
that
we
don't
want
to
participate
in
it
or
we
opt
in
and
there's
a
90
000
charge
for
it
and
they
maintain
everything
on
it.
There
is
a
spot
or
a.
E
There
is
a
firewall
that
separates
our
network
from
theirs
at
one
point,
but
it's
one
of
those
you
know
catch
22s.
I'd
rather
have
it
than
not.
So
that
is
a
ask
that
I
didn't
have
last
year
next
year
the
maintenance
will
go
down
to
about
45
000,
so
it
won't
be
the
full
institute
on
that,
but
moving
forward
there
will
be
a
maintenance
cost
on
that.
E
Next,
next
item's
going
to
be
the
harmon
road
tower
maintenance
program.
The
tower
needs
to
be
inspected,
as
is
again,
it
was
built
back
in
1989,
so
I
needed
somebody
to
actually
come
out
and
look
at
the
tower
check
out.
The
guy
anchors
dig
down
below
it
make
sure
they're
still
in
there
check
the
tension
of
the
actual
guy
wires
himself.
I
don't
have
any
records
of
that
being
done
in
the
last.
E
E
So,
as
you
remember,
the
radio
system
was
brought
over
to
I.t,
probably
a
little
over
four
years
ago.
I
was
right
under
the
previous
administration
wanting
us
to
maintain
the
system
and
we
brought
it
in.
I
think,
as
soon
as
mayor
nelson
came
in,
we
were
kind
of
doing
the
handoff
from
the
individual
that
was
doing
it
and
it
was
kind
of
a
big
lift
for
us
to
do
it,
but
we
continued
on
with
the
existing
manpower
we
had
in
there.
E
So
that
was
another
piece
that
we've
absorbed
with
it,
but
I
don't
have
anything
showing
that
it
has
actually
been
done.
So
that
is
a
necessity.
That's
going
to
be
like
20
thousand
dollars.
What
that'll
cover
again
is
the
initial,
the
certification
of
it
making
sure
the
guy
the
wires
are
tensioned
properly
they're
checking
out
the
anchors
to
make
sure
they're
not
moving
and
then
again
any
time
we
have
any
type
of
a
high
wind
storm
or
any.
E
Another
thing
I
added
last
year,
another
layer
of
cyber
security
is
cloud
backup
replication.
We
maintain
our
backups
on-prem,
they
are
encrypted,
but
another,
just
another
layer,
I'm
putting
them
out
to
the
cloud
as
well,
which
they're
encrypted
as
they
go
out
for
it
just
as
a
another
way
of
recovering.
Should
we
have
to
do
that.
That's
like
14
000
per
year.
That
was
a
cost
we
did
not
have
last
year,
security,
camera
replacement.
The
existing
camera
system
we
have
is
a
at
best,
a
prosumer
system.
E
It's
not
something
that
you
would
see
normally
at
a
you
know,
city
government,
or
what
have
you
it's
great
for
the
homeowner,
maybe
a
small
business,
but
it's
not
doing
anything
as
far
as
you
know.
If
we
stick
it
on
our
outside
buildings
yeah,
I
can
see
who
you
are,
but
if
I
try
zooming
in
it
pixelates
too
far
out,
so
that
I
can't
really
make
out
what's
going
on
so
inside
of
a
building.
It
works.
E
Fine
if
I
stick
it
outside
and
we
try
to
zoom
in
on
anything
you're
going
to
wash
it
out,
and
unfortunately,
we've
had
way
too
many
incidents
from
the
police
department
trying
to
get
a
evidence
or
hey.
We
just
had
the
stolen,
they
need
to
look
at
the
camera
and
when
they
try
zooming
in
it's
of
no
evidentiary
value.
E
So
we
are
looking
to
go
with
that
and
that's
also
a
police
department
initiative
they're
switching
over
to
the
fuses
solution,
which
all
of
our
cameras
will
actually
incorporate
with
that
system.
But
this
is
part
of
it
from
the
I.t
side,
because
we
have
about
a
hundred
and
2
530
cameras
throughout
the
city
that
need
to
be
changed
out.
This
is
not
an
entire
lift
of
that.
E
We
are
the
first
line
of
defense
for
all
of
that
we
maintain
them.
Some
of
these
were
put
in
by
our
wireless
ring
provider
or
the
the
contractor
for
that.
But
you
know,
as
far
as
when
we're
maintaining
the
cameras
we
deal
with
it,
unless
it's
something
we
can't
get
to
too
high
up
on
a
lift
or
something
that
we
don't
have
access
to.
E
I
go
out
for
a
camera
that
needs
to
be
repaired.
Yes,
if
there's
an
issue
with
the
camera
on
back
city
hall,
there's
cameras
that
point
down
in
different
directions.
I
mean
I'll
address
these.
I
can
climb
up
to
the
roof
I'll,
throw
a
ladder
on
the
small
section
back
here
and
carry
another
ladder
up
with
me,
jump
up
to
that
next
level,
I'll
deal
with
those,
but
there's
areas
that
I
can't
get
to
at
the
ladder
that
I'll
either
that
are
either
you
know
put
up
by
the
third
party
and
I'll
say:
hey.
E
E
F
E
D
E
At
best
I'll,
probably
I
might
get
maybe
40-
maybe
maybe
that's
if
I
can
find
a
decent
deal
and
hopefully
get
some
sort
of
bulk
price
on
it,
but
the
cameras
that
we
currently
have
deployed
at
the
time
we
could
get
them
for
about
a
hundred
and
thirty
dollars.
They're
now
going
for
three
and
four
hundred
dollars
a
piece
if
you
can
get
them
and
it's
just
the
supply
chain,
is
it's
a
wreck.
E
E
Software
is
it's
just
looking
for
that
stream,
so
everything
will
actually
go
into
that
system
so
that
we
have
one
place
to
look
versus
now
we
have
an
access
camera
system
we
look
into,
which
is
a
good
solution.
I
only
have
like
three
of
those
cameras,
though
I
have
the
unify
system,
which
is
130
and
then
there's
going
to
be
the
the
police
department
side,
which
is
the
fuses
which
again
it's
more
of
a
management
software.
That's
going
to
look
at
all
of
the
cameras
and
that'll
be
something
that
the
chief
will
present.
E
Probably
a
coming
meeting
is
more
of
the
capabilities,
but
it
also
helps
some
of
the
businesses
in
the
city.
If
they
have
camera
systems,
if
they
so
choose
to
opt
into
it
and
provide
a
feed.
There's
a
box
we
would
put
out
there
and
actually
take
just
the
stream
of
only
what
they
want
us
to
see
and
in
case
there
anything
happens
to
it
for
again
for
evidence.
That's
all
it
is
it's
not
you
don't
have
to
do
it.
It's
something
voluntary
on
that
part,
but
that
is
the
capability
of
the
software
gotcha.
E
One
of
the
other
things
I
mentioned
the
mayor
that
I
consider
you
know
fy23
going
to
be
a
cyber
security
jump
for
the
it
department.
So
some
of
the
things
we
currently
do
for
remote
access
is.
We
have
a
firewall
that
we
have
a
client
that
we
allow
people
that
have
a
use
case
to
actually
come
in
remote
through
the
firewall
and
get
to
their
desktop.
E
E
I
don't
like
the
idea
that
we're
doing
that
so
to
stop
this
I'm
going
to
get
or
my
plan
is
to
buy
a
laptops
for
those
who
need
they're
critical
or
say
they
need
these
set
up
for
it
as
well
as
a
docking
station.
So
I
can
put
you
know
the
monitors
as
well
for
them
to
have
set
up
at
their
house
and
that
will
be
that
that'll
be
their
vpn
connection.
E
The
laptops
will
be
controlled
through
our
mdm
to
ensure
they
have
the
latest
updates
on
them,
and
you
know
we
know
where
they
are.
As
far
as
that
goes
so
right
now,
you
know
if
somebody
comes
and
says
they
need
access
for
it.
You
know
I've
asked
the
question:
okay,
everything's
up
today,
you're
running,
you
know
the
latest
version
you're
running
at
least
windows,
10,
yep,
okay,
you're,
getting
your
updates.
You
have
antivirus.
E
I
have
to
take
their
word
for
it,
because
I
can't
you
know
I'm
not
running
out
their
house
to
check
it.
So
we
have
it
to
a
limited
number
of
users.
Of
course,
when
covet
picked
up
back
in
the
end
of
19
beginning
of
20,
we
opened
that
up
a
little
bit
so
that
we
could
have
more
individuals
connecting
in
because
we
needed
to
I've
kind
of
scaled,
that
back
a
little
bit
and
again,
it's
more
of
a
use
case,
a
specific
use.
E
I
need
to
have
it
and
you
know,
mission
critical
per
se.
I
try
not
to
you
know,
just
put
it
out
for
everyone
to
have
just
because
stuff
happens,
it's
not
a
you
know,
not
it's
not
a
punishment
on
anybody.
I
just
I
give
it
to
people
who
need
it
and
if
they
show
a
use
case
for
it,
then
I
certainly
authorize
it.
E
E
This
is
an
actual
one
for
us
inside
here
at
systems
and
hardware
log
management,
software,
so
all
of
the
actual
devices
we
have
right
now
generate
data
uncomprehendable
to
a
person
looking
at
it,
there's
way
too
much
data
coming
through
as
far
as
log
files
coming
at
it.
You
know
we
rely
on
other
software
currently,
which
is
antivirus.
You
know
we
have
a
next-gen
firewall.
We
rely
on
that
to
stop
anything
coming
in
and
hope
it's
stopping
everything
from
coming
in,
but
I
can't
see
the
log
files
and
see
what's
happening.
E
Look
for
patterns
network
ports
going
down
because
the
ups
went
somewhere.
That's
not
managed
you
name
it.
It
actually
looks
at
it
all
of
that
log
data
is
getting
generated,
but
if
you
don't
see
it
or
have
a
way
our
tool
of
actually
collecting
it
and
doing
something
with
intelligently,
then
you
have
a
bunch
of
garbage
coming
in.
So
this
was
an
ask
on
the
it
from
our
internal
employees.
E
Is
we
need
some
sort
of
log
management
system,
so
we
can
actually
make
heads
up
of
what's
actually
happening
and
see
and
look
for
a
trend
coming
in
or
see?
What's
if
there's
there's
an
issue
that
we
need
to
address
next,
one
again
ransomware
talking
about
it
so
multi-factor
authentication's
great,
that
is
a
first
start
that
will
shut
down
a
lot
of
stuff
coming
in
again,
if
you
download
something
locally
once
you
made
it
in
you're
inside
the
network
at
that
point.
E
So
if
you
were
to
get
something
into
it
now
our
we
have
a
managed,
detection
and
response
as
well
for
our
anti-virus
and
so
again
we're
looking
at
wrecking
our
patterns.
What's
going
on,
you
know:
why
is
this
machine
opening
up
a
word
document
from
powershell?
Why
is
it
doing
that?
So
it's
looking
at
what
the
machine's
behaving
as
opposed
to
hey
did
I
just
get
the
latest
windows
update
for
the
new
latest
virus
or
the
latest
loki
or
whatever
you
know
whatever
the
current
virus
is.
E
All
you
need
to
do
is
change
a
character
in
that
virus
and
suddenly
it's
a
whole
new
thing.
That's
not
been
detected
yet
so
we
have
a
again
our
our
I'll
call
it.
Our
antivirus
solution
is
looking
for
that,
but
if
it's
in
and
we
do
get
encrypted
at
that
point-
yes
they're
going
to
stop
the
threat
they're
going
to
stop
that.
But
at
that
point
I
have
potentially
ransomed
or
encrypted
files.
E
Looking
for
any
encryption
happening
so
when
it
sees
anything,
take
off
like
that
or
if
it
starts
to
see
a
file
start
to
get
encrypted,
it
starts
to
wake
up
and
say:
what's
going
on,
there's
a
threshold
that's
set
in
it
so
that
at
some
point
it
becomes
aware
that
okay,
there's
multiple
files
becoming
encrypted
it
shuts
that
machine
down
takes
off
the
network,
sends
off
the
lights
and
bells
in
it.
Text
messages
emails,
you
name
it.
E
E
At
that
point
and
there's
maintenance
for
our
replacement
crm
that
we
have
c
click
fix
is
sitting
ready
to
go
live.
I'm
I
have
a
few
more
pieces
to
iron
out
with
public
services
on
some
software.
They
have
just
to
make
sure
they're
ready
to
go
with
it,
but
that
will
be
revealed
out
here
and,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
a
citizen
request
module
is
it's
actually
where
you
in
the
city
you're
driving
through
whatever
it
is?
If
you
see
an
issue,
you
report
it
from
there.
E
So
this
software
is
very
forward-facing,
it's
very
visible
to
everybody.
So
if
you
report
a
pothole
out
at
park
in
maine
and
somebody
else
drives
by
and
sees
it,
they're
actually
going
to
see
it
on
the
map
that
there's
something
already
reported.
If
the
city
is
not
acting
on
this,
this
is
going
to
tell
on
them,
because
it's
going
to
see
you
know
you're
going
to
see
this
thing
sitting
for
a
while
and
it's
going
to
start
to
start
to
age
out
and
it
never
disappears,
but
everybody's
going
to
see
it
so
the
existing
system.
E
E
It
somewhat
works
for
that
matter,
but
it
doesn't
integrate
with
any
other
software.
So
when
this
current
work
order
comes
in
or
somebody
sees
an
issue
with
it,
an
email
goes
to
a
specific
individual
there's
a
there's,
a
workflow
process
set
up
in
it,
but
they
get
an
email.
So
then,
if
it
goes
to
public
services
because
they
usually
get
the
brunt
of
these,
they
have
to
copy
that
and
then
put
into
their
work
order
system.
So
it's
very
inefficient.
E
The
new
software
I
have
actually
has
an
integration
with
their
software
that
writes
through
it
and
then,
when
they
close
in
their
software,
it
writes
back
the
opposite
direction.
3C
click
fix
so
we're
just
starting
to
scratch
the
surface.
With
that
again,
it's
set
up
on
our
side
ready
to
go.
I
have
a
few
things
to
iron
out
with
the
public
services
and
that'll
be
coming
forward,
but
then
there's
maintenance
on
that.
So
that's
where
that
other
line
you're,
seeing
there
any
questions
on
any
of
those
items.
E
Yes,
that's
usually
so,
once
it's
done
so
like
again,
this
the
c-click
fix
the
last
item
I
just
talked
about.
I
was
able
to
find
some
money
available
and
we're
not
going
to
renew
one
of
the
softwares
that
public
services
had.
So
we
use
that
money
as
cost
savings
to
get
this
going
so
that
moving
forward,
though,
does
have
a
maintenance
cost
to
it.
D
E
E
So
there's
another
solution,
but
you
know
I
don't
want
to
say
throughout
the
baby
with
bath
water
here
you
know
there
are
other
providers
out
there,
but
everybody
in
this
area-
and
this
is
not
the
whole
reason
but
everybody's
a
motorola
shop
in
this
area.
So
we
have
two
towers
right
now:
fully
outfitted
with
motorola
radios
servers.
What
have
you
to
get
out
from
under
this?
It
would
be
a
huge
expenditure
versus
staying
in
where
we
are
it's
kind
of
like
you're
in
it.
At
this
point
now
it's
continuing
maintenance.
E
You
know
there
are
another.
There
is
another
player
out
there,
but
we're
working
on
doing
a
multi-zone
integration
with
orange
county,
orlando
and
reedy
creek
right
now.
That's
something
that
we
just
had
some
usc
funding
come
in
for
that,
and
that's
also
stems
back
to
the
marjory
stoneman
douglas
act,
meaning
that
all
all
agencies
touching
each
other
need
to
be
able
to
communicate,
and
I
don't
want
to
have
to
go
look
for
a
channel.
I
need
to
be
able
to
touch
your
primary
channels,
so
this
is
going
to
solve
that
issue.
E
The
city
of
apopka
itself
has
always
been
its
own
island
when
it
comes
to
the
radio
system.
We
have
this
tower
saying
out
on
harmon
road.
You
know
it
was
it's
a
pie.
Rod
400-foot
guide
tower
out
there
that
it
was
initially
set
up
just
for
public
service
radio,
it's
growing
a
little
bit
with
some
other
hardware
put
onto
it.
Of
course,
census
rides
on
it
for
water
meter,
readings
and
all
of
that
money
going
in
the
antennas
on
it.
E
That
is
a
piece
that,
if
something's
happening,
we
are
being
told
by
them
that
something's
happening
before
we
actually
see
an
issue,
we're
getting
alerts
so
they're
they're
on
it,
notifying
us
what's
going
on
they're,
responding
and
addressing
it,
but
the
the
biggest
issue
we
have
right
now
is
that
we
are
encrypted
on
our
own
channel.
So
anytime
we
go
to
give
anybody
or
if
anybody
wants
to
come
over,
we
have
to
go.
Give
him
the
encryption
key,
and
you
know,
there's
there's
little
sharing
parties.
E
They
do
every
couple
of
years
where
they
give
everyone
their
keys
to
make
sure
they
have
your
your
your
actual
encryption,
so
they
can
communicate
with
you
correctly.
So
with
this,
the
multi-zone
that
we're
looking
at
you
know,
I
could
we
integrate.
Let's
say
a
hair
solution
into
it
potentially,
but
you
know
I,
you
know
how
much
and
again
there's
going
to
be
maintenance
on
that
as
well.
H
E
H
Kind
of
like
pc
versus
mac,
and
yes,
we're
kind
of
stuck
in
yeah-
I
mean
I'd
I'd,
be
interested
to
see
if
they
themselves
would
be
interested
in
approaching
the
people
in
this
region
and
saying
we've
got
a
better
product.
We
want
to
help
you
bridge
that
gap
and
get
them
to
be
willing
to
invest
in
us
a
little
bit
to
make
that
switch
if
it'll
benefit
us
in
the
long
run
if
it
gets
a
better
product.
So
I
mean
I'm
open
to
that
that
thought.
If
you
bring
those
things
to
us,
okay.
H
E
E
E
Some
things
you
were
needing
to
do.
We
are
missing
for
this
council
chamber.
This
is
already
bought
and
paid
for.
Well,
it's
not
paid
for
the
money's
already
here
for
it,
it's
already
ready
to
go.
We
were
supposed
to
been
completely
up
and
functioning
by.
I
think
the
end
of
april.
However,
there
are
two
items:
two
crestron
items
that
are
missing
from
this
solution,
so
abi
spl
is
the
integrator
putting
this
on.
They
are
missing
two
key
items
that
they
cannot
start
the
implementation
until
they
have
everything.
E
So
that's
what
we're
waiting
on
at
this
you
know
that's
where
we're
still
at
waiting.
So
it's
already
our
system
ready
to
go
cameras
on
each
of
the
back
corner
of
the
room,
one
in
the
center
one
up
front
facing
back
to
the
actual
podium
here.
This
is
the
booth
itself
is
going
to
be
the
old.
I
guess
the
old
greeting
booth
that
got
moved
under
mayor
kilsheimer,
so
right
now
it's
a
closet
on
the
far
north
by
the
elevator.
So
that's
where
the
control
booth
will
be
for
it.
E
Fire
will
be
run
from
that
side
coming
across
we're.
Looking
at
replacing
the
lighting
in
here
as
well
as
changing
the
color
in
the
back
the
sconces,
to
make
it
more,
I
guess
habitable
to
actually
stream
in
because
right
now
we
have
a
really
weird
orange
hue
that
goes
in
here.
So
there's
a
lot
of
stuff:
that's
bidding
down
separate
of
the
actual
av
upgrade
here.
E
You
know,
there'll
be
a
screen
for
the
actual
public
on
this
side,
so
they're
not
having
to
break
their
neck.
Looking
over
here,
there
will
be
a
screen
on
the
back
wall.
Just
for
you
all
to
see
a
larger
one,
plus
you'll
actually
have
your
your
monitors
in
front
of
you
that
will
be
on
top
of
the
actual
podium
or
I'm
sorry.
The
day
is
up
there
I'll
be
on
this
side.
E
We'll
have
the
ability
reserve
capacity
for
over
there
if
the
press
ever
needs
it,
so
it's
I'm
excited
about
it,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
taking
way
longer
than
it
should
have.
I
really
hoped
we
were
going
to
be
up
on
it,
so
we
still
have
our
ad
hoc
system
back
from
covert
that
we
threw
in
the
back
of
the
room
thinking
it's
temporary.
E
You
know
the
the
vfw
system,
you
know
every
time
I
go
there
this
past
weekend,
I
went
there
and
just
you
know
you
cross
your
fingers.
Open
is
going
to
come
on
and
sure
enough.
After
about
three
minutes,
the
projector
went
off
the
bulbs
lights
flashing
time
to
replace
your
bulb.
I
don't
have
a
spare
bulb
friday
or
saturday
at
you
know
two
in
the
afternoon,
so
panic
sets
in.
I
go
to
get
the
other
one
to
fire
up.
It's
completely
dead,
running
the
ladder
around
going
up
and
down
trying
to
figure
out.
E
What's
going
on.
Finally,
I
tricked
the
initial
one.
I
just
changed
the
time
on
the
actual
bulb
and
say
sure
I
just
replaced
you
and
you
know,
keep
my
fingers
crossed
that
it's
gonna
run
for
the
next
six
or
eight
hours.
However
long
I
needed
it
to
the
audio
system
as
well
is
a
closed
system.
There's
no
additional
room
for
growth
on
that
one
and
it
just
it
really.
It
needs
some
assistance.
I
can't
we
get
called
over
there
quite
a
bit
that
either
hey
it's
not
working
the
mic's,
not
working.
E
We
can't
figure
out
where
this
is
running
from
here
and
one
of
the
issues
we
have
with.
That
is
that
we
don't.
If
we
don't
maintain
it
or
we're
not
there,
to
ensure
that
it's
not
being
abused,
then
mics
get
dropped
all
the
time
they
can
walk
away.
I've
had
remotes
from
the
overhead
projectors
just
completely
disappear,
and
you
don't
have
to
replace
you
know
the
remotes
for
it
and
I'm
sure
maybe
it
wasn't
on
purpose,
but
it's
just
one
of
those
deals
that
now
what
am
I
going
to
do?
E
Okay,
I
have
to
run
up
the
ladder
for
now
and
push
the
button,
so
we
make
do
with
what
we
have
to
make
sure
everything's
working
over
there.
So
it
does
need
a
facelift
there's
issues
with
the
hdmi
on
the
main
screen
cutting
out.
Sometimes
it's
just
you
know
that
was
my
ask.
If
we
can
have
it
out,
you
know
if
it
gets
cut
out,
then
so
be
it.
But
I
I
letting
you
know
there
is
an
issue
over
there.
E
Aren't
able
to
get
them
100
percent,
I'm
waiting
out
to
come
in.
Actually
I
got
a
another
invoice
from
them,
which
I
said,
oh
great,
hey.
Are
they
coming
so
I
our
project
manager?
I
sent
an
email
this
morning
saying
hey
now
that
I
have
this.
Does
that
mean
the
other
two
parts
are
coming
in
so
he's
looking
on
that
because
he
said
he
didn't
hear
any
word
that
they
were
here
so
so.
G
E
H
E
No,
you
can
kind
of
play
on
it,
it's
it's
because
it's
open
to
the
public
and
everyone
will
go
up
and
kind
of
push
the
buttons.
At
some
point.
You
know
it
gets
abused,
not
on
purpose,
but
because
you
don't
know
what
you're
doing
and
you
start
pushing
buttons
on
stuff
that
sometimes
doesn't
do
the
best
for
it.
It's
I
you
know
so.
E
E
B
E
E
So
there
are
a
few
you'll
notice.
Some
of
the
lines
5200
looks
like
it
got
pretty
big
from
last
year:
there's
a
it's
probably
over
a
hundred
percent
higher.
I
don't
yes,
I
do
it's
a
larger,
a
larger
ass
this
year
and
it's
not
so
much
a
larger
ask
under
5200
it's
because
of
the
items
in
it.
So
traditionally
I
would
have
put
police
department
laptops
there
again.
This
is
going
to
be
the
third
cycle
of
laptops
to
get
them
out
of
their
old
dells.
E
They
have
those
normally,
I
would
have
put
under
6
400
when
our
capital
items
were
at
a
thousand
dollars,
because
the
threshold
for
the
city
has
changed
to
five
thousand
individually.
Those
don't
meet
the
the
capital
cost
for
it,
so
those
are
falling
under
5200.
So
there
was
like
an
eighty
thousand
seventy
five
and
eighty
thousand
dollar
increase
in
that
line.
E
Some
ups's
that
I
didn't
have
of
last
year
we're
trying
to
knock
out
some
issues:
our
data
center.
We
have
ups
standing
up
some
of
our
critical
servers
over
there
that,
when
the
generator
at
the
station
over
there
does
its
gen
set
test
on
wednesday
morning,
no
rhyme
or
reason
the
we'll
shut
down
two
or
three
of
our
servers
running
on
there
and
those
are
hosting
virtual
machines.
So
we
need
to
go
to
a
different
style
ups.
For
that,
that's
always
on
that
again.
E
E
4600
again,
some
of
the
things
that
weren't
there
I
talked
about
opengov
module,
the
software
we're
looking
at
now
that
the
maintenance
for
that
has
been
in
my
4600
line.
Tower
maintenance
was,
in
addition,
the
cloud
replication,
mfa
maintenance
and
the
increase
on
the
radio
system
is
under
there.
So
those
are
some
of
the
higher
pieces
that
went
up
under
that
one.
D
E
So
that
tower,
as
it
sits
now
again,
it's
the
manufacturer
there's
a
pyrot
tower
at
the
time
they
said
it
was
a
50-year
tower.
Galvanized
steel
right,
you
know,
depending
on
what
it
looks
like.
Does
that
mean
you're
going
to
get
50
years
out
of
it?
You
won't
so
built
back
in
89,
so
where
we
at
we're
at
sitting
at
30-
I
don't
know
33
34
years
somewhere
in
there,
it's
not
falling
down,
but
it's
doing
what
it
wasn't
meant
to
do
and
that's
to
house
the
larger
antennas
from
our
cellular
carriers.
E
So
the
tower
has
been
modified
multiple
times
strengthened,
to
allow
for
such
additional
load
to
go
on,
and
it's
not
the
weight
of
the
items
on
there
pushing
down
on
the
tower
it's
the
wind
load
from
when
hitting
it.
So
that's
the
calculation
that's
to
go
in
so
any
time.
High
winds
come
into
that
thing,
especially
that
style
tower.
It's
going
to
move
on
you
a
little
bit.
It's
going
to
actually
kind
of
flex
up
there,
and
this
is
a
really
long.
This
is
a
tall
tower.
E
It's
probably
one
of
the
tallest
ones
in
the
area
that
I've
I've
seen
around
here,
so
the
tower
itself
is
not
falling
down.
It
needs
to
be
certainly
inspected.
You
know
if
it's
going
to
be
set
up
for,
however
long
we
see
it,
it
certainly
needs
to
be
repainted
again
so
that
we
can
stay
within
the
faa
requirements
of
during
the
daytime.
You
know
your
tower
must
be
either
lit
up
or
it
needs
to
be
painted
red
or
red
and
white
leveled
up
for
it.
E
E
E
Cost
wise
for
that,
the
painting's
about
35
000,
the
maintenance
contract
annually
would
be
about
20
000
for
them
to
come
out
and
look
at
it,
and
you
know
us
keeping
up
with
the
appearance
of
the
building.
I
mean
it's
a
concrete
building,
it's
not
going
anywhere.
The
generator
is
pretty
old.
That
may
be
something
we
look
at
replacing
that
at
some
point
in
the
near
future
next
few
years,
but
you
know
the
radius
inside
those
were
replaced
when
the
new
tower
went
up
back
in
20.
E
I
think
that
was
when
it
was
completed.
End
of
19,
beginning
of
20.,
so
the
north
tower
got
the
equipment
that
was
at
the
harmon
tower
just
so
they
get
the
new
stuff
and
they
actually
want
to
get
everything
programmed
and
everything
else
is
programmed
existing,
so
the
harman
radios
are
actually
at
the
north
tower
currently.
E
E
There
is
a
best
practice.
I
don't
have
the
information
with
me.
I
had
a
guide
I
was
prepared
to
discuss
that
length.
I
want
to
say
was
the
end
of
last
year
as
far
as
the
harmon
tower.
If
we
were
going
to
move
it,
you
know
when
it
needs
to
be
inspected,
how
often
it
should
be
inspected,
but
there
are
industry
standards
on
when
it
should
be
inspected
and
again
after
heavy
wind
storms
coming
through,
especially
that
tower
of
that
age,
that
height
and
what's
on
it
should
certainly
have
had
some
attention.
E
A
t
that
was
really
hounding
us
pretty
heavy
for
the
last
three
years
wanting
to
get
on
for
their
first
night
in
this
area,
and
I
I
there's
no
room
for
them
to
get
on
that
tower.
There
was
an
independent
survey
that
they
actually
had.
Another
engineering
company
come
in
and
just
said,
you
know
you're
you're
kind
of
pushing
your
limits,
so
they
offered
to
build
another
tower.
E
You
know,
there's
there's
multiple
ways
that
could
go
if
we
were
replacing
it
looking
to
do
that,
but
as
it
sits
now,
it's
not
going
to
fall
over
unless
there
is
a
catastrophic
storm
hitting
it.
Somebody
hits
the
guy
wire
from
a
car
crash.
Somehow
you
know
just
right
through
that
fence.
You
know
a
natural
disaster.
G
E
E
This
is
gonna,
be
the
first
one
that
I
know
of
when
it
sinks
has
come
over
to
us
wow.
So
I've
learned
a
lot
again.
I
wasn't
the
tower
guy
up
until
I
was,
and
so
you
get
a
lot
of
information
from
talking
to
other
tower
operators,
orange
county
lake
county,
seminole
county.
You
know,
how
are
you,
how
are
you
maintaining
your
towers?
E
Do
you
when
you
build
a
new
tower,
do
you
have
a
third
party
come
in
and
build
it
for
you
and
then
you
just
write
on
it
for
free,
because
it's
your
property
or
do
you
keep
the
tower
internally?
You
know
trying
to
figure
out
what
they're
doing
and
who
are
you
having
to
your
your
inspections?
How
often
are
you
doing
it,
and
you
know
I
know
seminole
county?
They
were
replacing
their
towers
after
it
was
either
25
or
30
years.
E
They
did
eight
replacements,
and
that
was
a
pretty
quick
replacement
time
turnaround
in
my
opinion,
but
again
I'm
not
a
tower
expert
by
any
means.
I
don't.
I
don't
confess
to
be
so
from
from
reading
up
on
it
and
again
talking
to
individuals
who
do
just
that.
I
mean
that's
a
function
of
I.t
that
got
incorporated
into
it.
So
there
are
you
know
that
is
a
job
in
itself
as
far
as
a
radio
position,
that
is
the
information
I'm
getting
for
it
and.
G
E
E
It
was
going
to
be
moved
over
for
a
new
location
and
you
know
we
had
to
do
a
site
survey
because
we
have
to
make
sure
first
of
all,
are
we
gonna
have
the
coverage
we
have
now
we
can't
get
worse
coverage
than
what
we
have
so
motorola
comes
out.
Does
their
actual
coverage
survey
come
back
with
a
presentation
and
said?
Okay,
we
only
need
to
be
at
350
feet
and
we'll
get
the
same
if
not
better
coverage
showing
better.
E
You
know
coverage
on
certain
areas
that
we
didn't
have
it
before,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
as
high
as
it
is.
It
just
happened
to
be.
That
was
where
we
are
and
that
one
you
could
pretty
much
go
coast
to
coast
with
it
at
one
point,
so
it
has
been
much
more
tuned
down
a
little
bit.
A
little
bit
of
power
turned
off
and
more
heavy
aiming
of
the
beam.
E
If
you
will
so
that's
not
just
broadcasting
out
for
everybody,
because
we
can
start
stepping
on
other
municipalities,
because
everybody's
sharing
certain
frequencies,
so
you
know
that'll.
Some
of
that
will
change.
Also
with
the
next
year's
request
that
I'll
have
and
again
it's
the
existing
radios
they're
using
the
7000th
or
motorola
radios
are
in
need
of
replacement
they're
going
into
life
at
the
end
of
23.
E
So
my
capital
improvement
plan
would
start
next
year
and
then
looking
either
doing
a
three
or
five
year,
at
least
or
at
least
but
a
basically
finance
these
radios
and
do
a
facelift
public
safety,
and
this
would
be
their
next-gen
radios,
which
are
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
It's
like
a
smart
radio.
It's
has
a
screen
on
it.
They're
hardened.
You
can
see
the
other
units
moving
around
on
it.
It's
got
lte
coverage
on
it,
so
I
can
be
up
in
you
know,
wisconsin
and
hey.
E
What's
going
on,
I
hear
you
perfectly
cloud,
so
you
know
with
technology
changing
all
the
time.
You
know
there
may
be
a
point
where
we
don't
need
a
tower
nowhere
near
that
height,
but
you
know
currently
that
tower
is
what
it
is
because
of
when
it
was
built
back
in
the
day.
There
was
nothing
else
out
here.
G
E
So
that's
truly
what
needs
to
be
done,
and
so
I'll
know
now
that
I've
got
data
that
I
can
give
you
and
show
you
that,
yes,
it
was
inspected,
it
was
a
freak
accident
or
the
wire
rusted
through
or
a
a
wild
gopher
shoot
through
the
guidewire
or
something
anything
stupid.
You
know.
If
it's
going
to
happen,
it
can
happen
sure
you
know,
I
don't
expect
it
to
happen.
E
and
I
can't
say
you
that
that
price
will
stay
the
same.
I
would
expect
it's
probably
going
to
be
10
to
15
percent
higher
at
this
time,
and
you
know
this
is
strictly
up
to
the
council.
If
this
is
the
direction
we
want
to
go
on
it,
if
that's
something
that
has
to
get
cut
just
I'll,
let
you
make
that
choice
and.
G
E
They
test
everything
they
mock
up
the
entire
system
in
their
environment
and
verify
that
everything
is
working
smoke
test.
It
make
sure
nothing's
going
to
die,
so
they
have
the
entire
system
set
up
in
their
environment
before
they'll,
bring
it
in
and
just
start
putting
parts
and
pieces
and
go
hey.
Look
at
that
that
doesn't
fit
or
it
didn't
turn
on,
or
something
happened
to
it,
so
they
won't
start
it
until
they
have
that
hardware
in
hand.
E
H
E
Hardware
size
on
the
I.t
side
we
are,
there
are
some
police
and
fire.
You
know
things
that
need
to
need
to
happen.
There's
a
cad
system
that
we
need
to.
You
know.
I
see
a
unified
cad
system
that
we
need
to
look
at
getting
onto
it.
Currently
the
police
department's
running
over
off
seminole
counties
and
I'm
certainly
not
going
to
force
them
to
get
off
of
that
system.
E
If
that's
what
they
want
to
stay
on,
but
our
fire
department
runs
on
its
own
cad
and
that
kind
of
got
dumped
on
them
because
of
a
failed
solution
and
integration
back
in
2013.,
the
company
decided
it
wasn't
going
to
promote
that
software
any
further.
It
decided
that
wasn't
going
to
be
its
flagship,
oh,
but
we
have
what's
behind
curtain
number
three
over
here,
which
is
another
product:
that
product
was
being
used
by
ocoee
and
winter
garden.
It's
called
cts
america
and
it's
called
smart
cop.
E
Well,
the
fire
department's
using
smart
cop
is
their
cad
and
you
know
there's
a
firepiece
for
it,
but
it's
not
a
very
robust,
cad
whatsoever.
There's,
I
think,
we're
the
only
ones
using
it.
So,
as
far
as
the
fireside
there's
no
integration
to
the
other
agencies
around
it's
it's,
it
needs
to
really
need
some
attention.
H
E
They're
buying
the
actual
I'm
sure
the
maintenance
will
somehow
slide
back
in,
because
I
have
all
their
other
maintenance
for
eso
and
every
other
piece
they
have.
I
believe
so
it'll
start
to
come
back
over.
But
that's
you
know
the
meat
and
potatoes
of
my
maintenance,
either
3400
or
4
600
is
software
for
the
entire
city.
It's
not
the
I.t
department
kicking
up
that
I
mean
I
don't
use
that
software,
but
they
got
to
have
the
tools
to
do
their
job.
H
F
I
But
overall,
this
this
page
is
our
overall
look
at
the
fire
department
as
a
whole.
There
is
a
total
17
increase,
some
in
certain
lines,
more
than
others,
like
rob
mentioned,
the
operational
side
of
things
has
significantly
gone
up
this
year,
just
based
on
a
lot
of
different
costs
of
different
things.
I
We're
going
to
you
know,
do
those
one
of
those
each
next
couple
years
and
two
replacement
ambulances
again.
This
is
a
cyclical
thing,
but
again
with
the
also
with
our
accent
we
had
this
year
with
another
one:
we're
going
to
be
replacing
another
one
and
paramedic
school
replacement
or
I'm
sorry
reimbursement.
I
Again,
this
went
up
just
nine
percent.
Some
of
the
things
included
are
some
of
our
software
related
stuff,
vector
solutions
which
we'll
get
more
into
as
well,
is
a
scheduling
software
that
we
actually
implemented
this
year.
This
is
the
continuation
of
that
system
that
helps
us
organize
lots
of
different
things.
As
far
as
our
scheduling
is
concerned,
time,
trades
time
off,
and
things
like
that
ps
track.
Software
is
a
asset
management
software.
I
One
of
the
things
I
really
have
been
trying
to
do
with
our
depreciation
schedules
and
things
like
that.
It's
getting
on
a
systematic
approach
to
not
just
arbitrarily
saying
we
need
to
replace
this,
because
you
know
if
we
start
being
able
to
track
some
of
our
assets,
rolling
assets
and
things
like
that
with
software
like
this,
then
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
much
better
view
of
things
and
educated
decisions.
I
I
Fire
suppression
again
27
increase
again
because
of
a
lot
of
different
costs
of
certain
things
again,
most
important
being
the
addition
of
the
six
new
firefighter
positions,
replacement
of
a
fire
engine
replacement
of
a
cad
cascade
fill
station
at
station,
one
it's
a
time
for
us
to
get
a
new
one
of
those,
a
set
of
excitation
cool
tools,
spreaders
cutters
and
rams,
replacing
all
of
our
thermal
imaging
cameras.
Again,
like
commissioner
banks
and
said
just
a
minute
ago,
technology,
it's
constantly
evolving
or
something
we
identified
that
we
need
to
replace
digital
fire.
I
I
Again,
to
kind
of
give
us
the
year,
in
summary,
like
we
always
do
with
very
budget
years,
our
call
volume,
as
you
can
see,
is
still
trending
up.
2020
was
that
slump
because
it
was
was,
was
actually
a
normal
thing
because
of
the
covet
pandemic
we
dealt
with
so
we
saw
that's
a
kind
of
natural
thing,
but
as
a
whole,
we
are
still
training
up
with
our
call
volumes.
I
A
I
But
basically,
what
that,
what
that
called
when
we
just
discussed,
call
calls
per
shift
at
each
station
station,
one
still
with
9.1
station
point,
seven
station
threes
and
fours
right
around
the
same.
At
three
point:
six
three
point:
four:
eight
station:
five,
three
point:
one
three
and
station
ticks
just
over
a
call
per
shift.
I
D
I
I
So
iso
class
1
44
this
year
and
this
year
in
the
state
of
florida
nationwide
is
459,
still
puts
us
in
the
top
point
nine
percent
in
the
country
again
something
I
look
at
every
year
and
every
year
they
put
out
the
study
u.s
fire
department
profiles.
This
one
was
released
in
december
of
2021,
so
that's
a
few
months
ago,
basically
kind
of
gets
us
a
national
average
of
what
we
look
at
in
the
fire
service
and
and
things
that
we're
looking
at
so
the
last
five
years.
I
Average
rate
per
thousand
in
population
for
the
nation
is
1.71,
firefighters
per
thousand,
so
not
much
change
from
last
year,
when
you,
when
we
look
at
our
statistical
information
and
our
data
and
our
population
densities
population,
which
is
this
is
the
data
we
get
from
community
development
each
year,
population,
the
city
of
popular,
is
56
000
and
growing.
We
know
that
35
square
miles,
so
our
population
density
is
15
95
per
square
mile.
I
We
have
total
personnel
of
113
currently
this
year,
which
kept
us
right
at
the
1.99
per
thousand
3.17
per
mile.
So
roughly
one
firefighter
for
every
502
population,
when
we
compare
ourselves
in
the
in
the
red,
is
actually
includes
our
contract
contract
area.
So
it
adds
in
the
population
in
that
orange
county
station
29
contract
area,
as
well
as
the
square
mileage
and
comparing
to
the
other
municipalities,
you
can
just
run
down
the
ocoee
wintergarden
maitland
winter
park
orange
county
in
orlando.
I
We
are
right
in
line
with
a
lot
of
other
departments,
because
we
added
those
six
people
last
year.
That's
what
it
was
able
to
keep
us
moving
in
that
right
trend
moving
in
in
the
right
direction,
with
that
on
some
other
statistical
information
from
the
study
based
on
our
population
from
50
000
to
100
000.
These
are
the
average
throughout
the
nation
of
numbers
of
pumpers,
other
suppression,
units,
aerial
apparatus
and
stations
throughout
the
country,
so
the
average
is
4.53.
I
Currently
we
have
six
stations,
2.26
other
so
brush
trucks
and
our
squad.
Our
squad
five
counts
is
one
of
those
as
well
ariel
1.13,
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
that
coming
up
in
a
little
bit
an
addition
of
an
aerial
coming
in
the
future
and
stations
per
thousand
again
4.53
and
we're
currently
sitting
at
6..
I
I
I
Some
of
those
are
fire
related,
of
course,
that
don't
generate
things
like
this,
but
again
we're
right
at
that
national
average
of
63
being
als,
37
being
dls,
so
2021
we
collected
1.2
million
and
because
of
the
participation
in
the
pemt
programs,
which
we've
discussed
before
we
actually
were
able
to
recuperate
another
144
thousand
projected
for
this
next
upcoming
year,
1.4
million
with
additional
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
What's.
D
I
I
D
I
I
Again,
another
revenue
is
our
orange
county
contract
since
19
2019
we've
been
doing
that
this
this
year,
we're
collected
for
22
55
dollars
again.
That
is
also
captured
and
you
know
earmarked
for
it,
but
it
still
goes
into
the
general
fund,
and
one
thing
that
we
were
able
to
take
advantage
is
getting
100
of
this
contract
before
which,
in
the
last
three
years,
if
we
originally
the
contract
was
set,
was
for
75.
I
A
conservative
estimate
right
now
is
another
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
we're
going
to
be
able
to
generate
with
just
our
normal
inspections.
They're,
you
know
66
dollars
per
business,
24
2500
businesses,
that's
178,
000,
plus
new
construction
coming
in
and
some
of
the
fees
are
going
to
be
able
to
collect
with
that.
So
it's
good
to
see-
and
now
I'm
presenting
all
this,
because
I'm
going
to
ask
you
for
a
lot
of
money.
I
So
that's
why
I'm
making
sure
we
go
over
all
this
vector
solutions
again
we
talked
about
before
and
the
highlights
is
a
again
personnel
tracking.
It's
fully
automated.
Now
the
guys
get
text
messages
and
can
respond
via
phone,
whether
they
get
called
for
overtime
or
even
captures
our
time
trades
and
it's
a
really
well
useful
system.
I
I
Again,
the
ps
trax
is
again
an
asset
management.
It's
one
of
the
top
ones.
That's
used
in
the
fire
service,
anything
from
vehicles,
stations,
equipment,
supplies,
controlled
substances.
Things
like
that
and
kind
of
like
rob
was
talking
earlier.
I'm
glad
he
said
it.
You
know
it's
forty
three
thousand
dollars
to
implement
this
year,
but
hopefully
he
takes
over
the
yearly
maintenance
fees
from
now
on
thanks
for
the
offer,
but
it
is
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
as
the
maintenance
from
here
after
big
thing
again
is
a
computed
computer,
aided
dispatcher
cad.
I
J
I
Our
current
projects
that
are
under
construction
and
again
these
are
residential
dwelling
units.
So
currently
we
have
under
construction
or
almost
complete
construction,
29
142
dwelling
units,
and
we
know
that
our
persons
per
household
is
2.79,
so
an
increase
coming
in
this
year
of
8
000
people
were
expecting
with
that
being
said,
this
is
what
we
want
to
see
over
the
next
three
to
four
years
implementation,
as
you
can
see
here,
engine
one
is
who
we
actually
were
able
to
add
the
manpower
for
last
year
and
also
the
district
chief.
I
I
2024
you'll
see
multiple
things
here.
When
we
add
animal
six
is
coming
on
board.
We
know
that
station
six
is
being
built
this
year,
but
also
because
of
that
we're
now
gonna
start
getting
over
a
threshold
of
how
many
people
we
can.
We
need
to
allow
off
per
shift.
So
that's
an
additional
pto
person
and
also
continuing
with
adding
next
year,
engine
4
personnel
and
future
2025
engine
5
and
coin
6.,
so
having
a
stepped
approach
to
adding
these
personnel
where
we
need
them.
I
This
does
not
include
station
seven
and
that's
a
big
thing.
You
know
this.
This
is
our
map,
also
from
our
suppression.
I'm
sorry,
community
development-
you
can
see
station
6's
area
right
now
is
definitely
heavily
under
construction.
What's
starting
now
is
is
obviously
where
station
7
is
going
to
go.
I
I
Again,
our
depreciation
schedule
for
suppression
shows
this
year.
We
actually
have
ordered
this
engine
as
the
replacement
for
engine
11.
It
is
on
the
way
it's
under
construction
right
now.
This
is
the
engine.
51
is
the
bumper
we're
requesting
this
year
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
then
next
year
we're
going
to
be
adding
an
additional
engine.
The
nice
thing
about
this
engine
this
year
now
that
is
actually
ordered
and
already
being
built.
I
B
I
We're
also
asking
for
scba
bottle
compressor
and
fill
station
for
station
one
again.
This
is
something
that's
where
it's
plenty
of
wear
and
tear
we're,
also
looking
at
putting
that
down
at
the
21
down
at
the
train
center.
That's
where
a
lot
of
times
those
bottles
they
use
that
a
lot
and
also
with
our
program
that
we're
going
to
hopefully
get
implemented
next
year
with
the
recruit
training
facility.
So
it's
a
win-win
by
adding
on
you
know,
additional
cascade
system.
F
A
I
Firefighters,
firefighters,
also
in
this
budget,
is
our
edrawic
or
extrication
tools.
We
need
another
set
of
those
thermal
energy
cameras.
Like
I
mentioned
earlier,
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
This
will
replace
all
of
our
thermal
existing
thermal
engine
cameras
get
as
the
newest
technology
and
things.
I
Again,
just
the
technology,
it's
it's!
It's
amazing.
Over
the
years
what's
happened,
it
used
to
be
really
a
lot
of
its
size.
Now
it's
like
the
spy
world.
Everything
gets
kind
of
smaller,
but
also
what
you're
able
to
view
through
through
that
image
imager.
If
that
makes
sense
and
a
lot
of
technology
now,
you
can
hit
a
button
and
it'll
tell
you
the
coldest
spot
in
the
room
and
then
the
hottest
spot
in
the
room
and
a
lot
of
times.
I
H
H
I
Again,
any
any,
it
is
definitely
better
than
what
we
had
anything
with
technology.
You
know
we
can
look
at.
You
know
not
that
you
couldn't
with
all
older
models,
but
you
can
actually
look
at
a
tank
and
see
whether
it's
full
or
not
a
propane
tank
or
things
like
that.
Obviously
the
heat
signature
of
a
victim.
You
know
the
apple
labels.
We
can
call
it
spidey
sense,
but
you
can
look
through
a
room
very
quickly
and
you
know
that
within
a
degree
of
difference,
that's
the
that's.
I
I
But
it's
that
way
you
know
this.
This
is
this
is
going
to
allow
for
our
we're
actually
in
the
middle
of
doing
a
hiring
process.
Now
we're
actively
looking
for
to
fill
our
vacancies
and
then
we'll
add
these
six
additional
people
on
in
the
future.
This
is
going
to
be
enough
for
this
year
to
allow
that
rental
gear
to
be
delivered
on
day,
one
so
that
they
have
geared
to
work
from
day
one.
So.
H
I
I
Again,
ems
division,
the
two
big
things:
we're
adding
again
are
the
additional
ambulances
we
have
believe
in.
This
is
crazy.
The
the
bottom
one
replaced
1920
we're
still
waiting
on
that
ambulance
to
be
delivered.
I
never
in
my
life
of
a
scene
where
an
ambulance
takes
longer
than
the
fire
truck
they're,
saying
five
to
six
hundred
days
for
an
ambulance.
I
In
fact,
the
one
we
ordered
this
year.
We
had
to
sign
a
intent
to
procure
just
to
lock
it
in
place,
because
there's
no
fords
anywhere
we're
still
waiting
on
a
replacement
district
vehicle
or
a
new
district
vehicle.
Actually,
we
literally
got
the
last
one
in
the
country
we
got
informed
the
other
day
by
charlie
from
fleet
he's
literally
like
we
had
to
borrow
steel,
but
we
got
it
secured,
so
analyses
are
taking
quite
a
bit
of
time
to
replace
also
on
the
one
it
was
an
accident.
I
I
In
a
big
one,
this
year,
we've
added
130
000
for
paramedic
school
reimbursement.
This
is
going
to
cover.
We
have
currently
have
seven
people
in
medical
school
right
now.
This
is
going
to
be
allow
them
to
be
reimbursed
for
going
this
year.
Also,
our
new
our
nine
new
hires
that
we
have
added
this
last
year
when
part
of
that
are
contractually
now
obligated
to
go
to
paramedic
school
within
three
years.
I
I
I
was
part
of
an
in-house
program
when
I
went
to
medic
school,
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
when,
because
but
and
then
we've
done
recently
with
another
group
that
was
hired
on
in
17
right
after
that
we
did
another
in-house
program.
That's
certainly
always
something,
even
though
we're
only
sending
nine
is
a
big
number,
which
is.
I
I
This
is
for
both
so
this
year
right
and
we
want
to
use
it
as
a
reimbursement
program.
You
know
it's
kind
of
what
we've
done
traditionally
with
training
you
go,
you
go
to
the
class,
you
show
your
your.
You
know
that
you
obviously
paid
for
it
and
that
you
passed.
You
know
we're
looking
at
the
different
incentives
with
that
and
things
like
that,
but
that
then
it's
reimbursed
to
them.
I
I
A
I
Yeah
they
have
three
years
to
start
medic
school
and
then
once
we
reimburse
them,
they're
contractually
obligated
we're
still
looking
at
it
might
be.
Three
might
be
five
depending
on
how
you
know
it.
It
swings,
but
that's
so
you
have
to
go
within
three
years
of
starting.
So
if
you
start
august
first
of
this
year
you
have
until
august
first
to
start
school
of
three
years
from
now
so
2025..
G
I
I
F
I
H
Answer
any
questions:
yeah
I've
got
a
few
more
questions
here.
I
just
want
to
start,
though,
by
saying
that
was
the
most
amazing
demonstration
of
honor
and
brotherhood,
and
I
was
so
proud
so
proud
of
you
guys
and
I
know
austin's
proud.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
That
did
something
for
a
community.
I
believe
so
again
the
just
going
back
to
personnel
question.
So
are
we
on
point
to
advance
towards
the
goal
of
the
you
know
the
issue
about
making
sure
we
have
enough
firefighters
per
apparatus?
H
I
I
F
I
You
know
looking
at
the
growth
each
year.
You
know
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
and
I
think
we're
well
on
our
way,
especially
you
know
again,
adding
additional
station.
That's
going
to
be
another
group
of
15
individuals,
we're
going
to
have
to
add
plus
people
with
time
off.
So
it's
as
we
grow.
It's
going
to
be.
I
Our
first
first
two
units
we
seem
to
be
doing
well,
you
know,
and
that's
kind
of
again
the
reason
why
I
look
at
you
know
as
a
systematic
approach.
The
second
do
units
now
we
all
know
driving
down
441,
isn't
a
leisurely
stroll
anymore,
especially
going
from
the
east
side
to
the
west
side.
It's
taking,
you
know
just
generally
longer
to
get
places.
So
that's
why
I
want
to
also
you
know,
start
adding
those
individuals
so
stay
and
we
look
at
the
most
most
calls
run.
So
that's
why
engine
one
obviously
was
this
year.
I
Two
and
three
are
our
second
most
run,
calls
and
density.
You
know
you
look
at
that
map.
It's
one.
Two
and
three
are
the
most.
Are
the
densest
areas
of
our
our
our
region
right
now,
four,
six
and,
of
course,
with
the
growth
coming
for
seven,
eventually
adding
those
personnel
on
as
they
as
they
come
about.
So
it's
we
wanna
make
sure
that
we're
still
not
just
that
first
two
unit,
but
the
guys
and
girls
have
what
they
need
when
they
get
on
scene.
B
I
I
And
you
just
remind
me,
you
know
remind
me
when
we
add
station
seven
we're
gonna
have
to
place
a
second
tower
at
station
five
with
the
crew.
So
that's
a
whole
nother
just
because
of
travel
times
and
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
something
it's
in
a
cip
and
that's
things
that
are
coming
rapidly
in
the
future.
H
I
I
Wise
yeah
and
that's
something
I
looked
at
last
year.
This
was
the
useful
life
of
fire
trucks
and
things
like
that
and
looking
at
that
depreciation
schedule,
I
made
a
change
because
fire
trucks
just
don't
last
as
long
as
they
used
to
what's
the
worst
thing
about
them.
Electronics,
you
know
that
and
they
go
bad
quick.
You
know.
So
it's
something
you
know
to
keep
in
that
in
mind
that
we
we
adjust
that
depreciation
schedule.
I
H
And
we
mentioned
the
pemt
funds
and
the
and
the
oc
contract
revenue,
all
those
things
just
go
back
into
general
and
they're
not
earmarked
at
all
and
reserved.
Is
there
a
reason
for
that,
because
is
that?
Is
the
general
budget
happening
to
foot
and
handle
some
of
that?
I
mean
walk
me
through
that
or
or
is
that
something
that
would
help
us
for
planning
future?
Is
it
just
best
to
have
that
fluid,
but
they
are.
J
You'll
have
to
bear
with
me
because
I'm
still
trying
to
heal
up
so
but,
commissioner,
what
what
those
dollars
do
is
they
go
into
the
general
fund
but
they're
nowhere
near
enough
money
to
cover
the
cost
of
public
safety?
So
basically,
what
you
have
to
think
to
yourself
is
those
revenues.
Are
there
we
apply
those
when
we're
budgeting
as
part
of
the
revenues
to
help
fire,
but
then,
on
top
of
that
we
have
to
use
the
property
tax
sales
sector
right
now.
So.
H
F
H
And
this
low
maintenance
fee,
all
of
a
sudden,
is
increasing,
increasing,
so
we're
buying
into
these
guys
and
they're
saying
you
know:
well
it's
200
and
whatever
thousand
this
year,
but
it's
only
going
to
be
43
next
year.
Is
it
realistic
that
they're
not
going
to
once
we're
hooked
in
and
married
to
their
system?
Suddenly
those
maintenance
fees
start
going
astronomical
or
right
is.
F
B
I
And
that's
something
you
know
it
depends
on.
Obviously
it's
part
of
the
contractual
agreement,
but
there's
even
and
I
want
to
say
even
with
this
cat-
that's
that's
a
set
amount.
That's
the
nice
part
about
sometimes
locking
in
today's
prices,
but
being
able
to
have
that
benefit.
Something
we're
looking
at
too
for
the
next
year
is
implementing
an
agreement
with
stryker
who
does
all
of
our
our
our
analysts.
I'm
sorry
our
monitors,
our
stretchers
things
like
that
to
have
a
10-year
outlook
at
the
same
price
every
year.
So
we
know
it's.
I
H
B
A
G
Yeah,
my
question's
gonna
be
a
little
all
over
the
place.
The
first
one
is,
and
we
met
about
this
reedy
creek
and
that
issue
orange
county
being
kind
of
spread
very
thin.
Are
we
planning
for
that?
Are
we
planning
to
have
to
take
on?
I
know
we're
taking
on.
We
have
an
agreement
that
we
already
take
on
a
lot
of
their
stuff.
Are
we
worried
that
we're
going
to
take
on
that
much
more
and
help
out?
Is
that
in
any
of
our
planning.
I
No,
I
mean
it
is
but
again
remember
like
we
discussed.
There
is
a
set
threshold
in
place
to
where,
if
that
does
take
place,
or
we
run
over
a
certain
amount
of
calls,
we
would
go
back
to
the
negotiation
table
and
see
you
know.
I
know
they're
exponentially
going
right
near
us
horizons.
West
is
one
of
the
fastest
growing
areas,
so
I
know
they're
adding
stations
actively
out
there
and
things
like
that.
You
know
the
thought
was
originally
when
we
took
over
station
29.
I
Is
we're
eventually
going
to
annex
a
lot
of
that
area?
Anyways.
You
know
the
city's
getting
bigger
county's,
getting
smaller,
certainly
things
that
are
thought
of
for
sure.
But
again
all
that
all
the
data
I
showed
you
today
is
including
what
we
run
in
the
county
with
the
contract
agreement
and
mutual
aid
agreements.
I
I
A
G
G
I
G
So
that's
concerning
right
there,
it's
a
safety
committee
and
they
should
be
meeting
often
especially
when
there's
an
accident
to
your
point,
the
fact
that
they
haven't
met.
Yet
it's
really
concerning
that's
still
putting
our
firefighters
at
risk.
Something
needs
to
be
implemented
differently.
Yes,
it
may
have
been
an
accident,
but
more
accidents
can
happen.
Sure
so
is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
to
implement
some
type
of
additional
safety
committee
that
actually
meets
consistently
as
it
was
designed
to
do,
and
then.
I
So
currently,
right
now,
it's
still
under
investigation
of
the
state
fire
marshal's
office,
so
we
can't
even
meet
you
know
one
thing
that
immediately
happened
after
this
incident
was:
I
wanted
a
committee
to
get
together
and
look
at
trailers
as
a
whole.
We
did
a
outreach
to
all
these
neighboring
departments
to
see
policies,
procedures,
things
like
that,
specifically
with
trailers.
I
We
found
one
in
like
florida.
Almost
it
had
and
it
was
very
vague
there's.
There
was
nothing
specific
to
this
this
when
you
have
an
accident
or
a
travesty,
like
this,
it's
going
to
change
a
lot
of
different
things
and
that's
something
this
is
not
going
to
get
kicked
down
on
the
road
at
all.
One
of
my
number
one
priorities
is
once
we
was
getting
through
last
week.
I
That
was
hard
with
our
men
and
women,
making
sure
that
we're
all
here
tomorrow,
literally
I
you
know-
I
planned
a
lot
for
this
today,
but
tomorrow,
I'm
just
going
to
start
not
looking
at
that.
Now
we're
going
to
invite
the
state
farm
marshall
they
four
or
five
years
ago
they
did
a
complete
safety
assessment
of
our
department.
We
want
them
to
come
back
and
do
the
same
thing.
It's
it's
it's
something
when
it
was
on.
I
Obviously,
no
one
expected
anything
like
this
to
ever
happen
period
and
when
you
look
at
your
risk
and
you
have
to
make
an
accurate
risk
assessment,
you
know
what
why
are
we
and
again
reaching
out
immediately?
Does
anyone
have
a
policy
on
trailers?
No
like?
No,
no,
you
know
we
had
there's
a
local
department
had
exact
same
trailer
as
us
and
they
took
it
out.
I
You
know
it
was
removed
from
service
the
very
next
day,
because
it's
just
something
that
was
not
expected
but
being
able
to
look
at
that
implement
some
of
those
programs
look
at
even
how
our
safety
committee
works.
You
know
I'm
looking
through
doing
research,
of
course,
as
as
we
should
looking
at
our
sogs
there's
even
quarterly
station
inspections
that
need
to
happen.
There
haven't
been
we're
going
to
address
that.
I
assure
you
you
know
to
where.
I
G
Well,
and
in
that
same
breath,
then
too,
none
of
your
budgets,
at
least
that
I'm
looking
at,
has
to
do
with
any
type
of
training,
there's
no
extra
training
being
involved
or
anything
that
has
to
do
with
a
relatively
younger
in
general
fire
department.
That's
concerning
again.
Nowhere
in
here
was
there
we're
updating,
training,
we're
adding
somebody
to
bring
on
somebody
to
to
head
training
anything
like
that.
Is
there
a
reason
why.
I
My
personal
view
is
from
an
administration
level
is
to
provide
those
opportunities
for
individuals,
so
they
can
get
that
training
they
can
go.
We
have
a
state-of-the-art
training
facility,
we're
lucky
that
we
have
that
facility
most
places.
Don't
a
lot
of
people
come
here
to
use
ours.
We've
added
a
lot
of
different
things
this
year
with
the
connex
boxes
and
things
like
that,
but
identifying
those
specific
needs
a
lot
of
times
and
that's
something
else.
We're
going
to
look
at
you
know.
I
Iso
requires
a
certain
amount
and
that's
I
call
it
just
the
minimum,
what
we
need
each
year
for
training
300
something
hours
and
240
of
those
hours
at
the
company
level.
That's
where
the
officer
the
station
officer
identifies
you
know.
Maybe
the
new
person
who's
there.
That
shift
needs
to
work
on
this
specifically
or
things
like
that.
A
lot
of
it,
you
say
on
the
job.
Training
is
traditionally
what
happens
in
the
fire
service.
It's
just.
It's
always
been
that
way,
doesn't
make
it
right
wrong
and
different.
G
I
Yeah
and
just
to
your
point,
you
know
looking
at
the
study
as
well,
it
was
it's
amazing.
72
percent
people
have
less
than
10
years
on
nationwide.
You
know
it's
it's
a
cyclical
thing
now,
where
I,
I
truly
believe
post
20
years
after
9
11,
when
a
lot
of
people
started,
people
were
starting
to
cycle
out
as
well,
but
that's
certainly
something
that
we
want
to
emphasize
things.
I
You
can't
always
assume
that
people
know
how
to
operate
everything
and
again,
when
we're
out
there.
Looking
at
that
and
again
from
my
level
if
we
can
provide
opportunities,
we've
we've
done
numerous
different
training
classes.
Even
this
year
at
the
training
center,
we
offered
a
truck
ops
there.
In
the
past
we've
done
vmr.
I
We've
done
different
things
like
that,
but
back
to
the
basics,
fdny
implemented
a
program
years
ago,
they're
the
busiest
fire
department
in
the
country,
but
they
went
back
to
the
basics,
to
teach
some
of
that
basic
stuff
and
that's
something
I'm
going
to
start
encouraging
everyone
from
my
level
down
that
we
need
to
emphasize
stuff
like
that.
Looking
at
how
to
run
certain
types
of
equipment.
Things
like
that.
G
I
I
You
know
each
division
chief
over
that
heads
up
the
training
and
passes
things
down,
and
things
like
that
covet
caused
a
big
pause
and
a
lot
of
that,
because
we
simply
couldn't
even
get
together
to
do
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
looking
at
that
in
the
future,
you
know
it
comes
down
to
even
that
additional
district
chief.
Now
they
can
help
orchestrate
a
lot
of
different
training
if
they
identify
something.
That's
out
there
in
the
field
and
a
lot
of
stuff
comes
up
for
us
that
happens
and
then
we're
like.
Oh,
we
need.
I
Let's
talk
about
that
again.
Let's
review
that
again,
you
know
it's
it's
and
again,
knowing
those
personal
you're,
knowing
your
personnel
on
you
can't
go
out
and
know
exactly
what
each
individual
needs.
You
know
that's
a
lot
of
times
when
it
comes
down
to
the
company
level
and
looking
at
some
of
that
stuff,
not
to
say
that
it's
you
know
a
department
thing
we
all
want
to
tackle
together,
of
course.
Well.
G
I
think
we're
missing
two
huge
points
here:
the
safety
committee
that
doesn't
meet
regularly
or
update
the
department
and
then
somebody
that's
not
actually
in
charge
of
training,
specifically
we're,
not
a
small
city
anymore.
We
need
something
that
actually
is
implemented,
often
and
somebody
that
is
in
charge
of
training.
G
Specifically,
I
think
that's
a
huge
miss
and
I
think
up
here
we
need
a
budget
that
needs
to
be
budgeted
in
some
capacity
in
some
way
and
then
somehow
I
don't
know
the
oversight
of
this
but
the
safety
committee.
I
just
I'm
amazed
that
they
haven't
met
yet
in
any
capacity
to
go
over.
How
can
we
just
do
better
as
a
department
with
what
we
just
dealt
with
so
and
what
we're
still
dealing
with?
G
So
I
think
that's
a
huge
misstep
as
well
and
something
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of
in
reference
to
overtime.
What
does
that
look
like
on
an
annual
basis?
Do?
Is
it
just
as
needed?
If
somebody
wants
to
choose
overtime,
they're
able
to
do
it?
Is
there
a
lot
of
overtime?
Is
there
not
really
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
overtime,
walk
us
through
that.
I
Right
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
overtime.
You
know
we
have
vacancies
and-
and
things
like
that
and
kovid
obviously
caused
a
lot
of
overtime
over
the
past
few
years.
That
wasn't
expected
with
rules
changing
every
third
day
of
you
know,
exposures
and
things
like
that.
You
know
when
we
do
fill
our
vacancies.
I
G
I
Basically,
right
now
we're
allowed
to
have
up
to
five
people
off.
That's
that's
the
set
amount
per
day.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
even
on
the
thing
that
we
have
38
people
we're
asking
for,
but
33
is
minimum
manning
for
the
shift
with
those
five
people.
Anyone
over
that
fifth
person
is
is
now
an
overtime
spot.
Some
of
those
yes
are
backfilled.
You
know,
if
needed
a
lot
of
times
in
this
agreement.
I
With
this
with
the
with
the
union,
we
got
together
and
kind
of
passed
all
that
out
how
the
process
works
and
things
like
that,
and
if
we
try
and
do
it
two
shifts
ahead
of
time,
but
you
know
you
never
know
the
day
of
that
morning
over
something
happens
and
that's
when
we
consider
an
emergency
over
time.
That's
still
handled
through
our
new
vector
solution
and
it's
shot
out
to
everybody
and
someone
accepts
it
great
and
we
have
different
categories
rank
qualifications.
Things
like
that.
So
if
someone
does
accept
it,
then
you
know.
I
G
H
G
I
I
I
Yeah,
especially
this
year,
looking
at
adding
these
additional
people,
that
was
one
of
my
concerns
when
we
were
talking
about
looking
at
this
is
a
systematic
approach.
We
need
to
look
at
station
three
specifically
for
some
infrastructure,
increasing
our
stations
were
designed
for
four
people.
You
know
now
we're
adding
these
people
wear
and
tear
on
things
just
happen.
You
know
looking
at
those
different
things
and
you
know,
there's
there's
always
the
talk
about
dishwasher.
Is
it
better
to
buy
a
commercial
or
is
it
better
buy
residential?
I
You
know,
and
you
look
at
some
of
that
stuff
and
how
often
we
replace
things
whether
or
not
we
look
at
stuff
like
that
and
a
lot
of
times,
you
know,
make
sure
that
we're
doing
getting
the
most
bang
for
our
buck.
If
that
makes
sense,
but
in
a
big
thing
like
that
station
three
specifically,
we
need
to
re-gut
a
lot
of
it
and
and
make
some
improvements.
G
It's
not
doing
that,
so
it's
specifically
in
that
room.
So
that's
a
problem
and
we're
not
budgeting.
Hopefully,
facilities
has
that
budgeted.
I
guess
I'll
make
sure
to
look
for
that,
but
these
kind
of
things
these
safety
issues
seems
like
we're,
not
budgeting
for
it
or
talk
about
kicking
the
can
down
the
road.
This
is
what
we're
doing
and
as
the
junior
up
here,
I
need
to
be
thinking,
10,
15,
20
years
down
the
road
not
just
5
to
10.
and
and
that's
a
huge
safety
issue
as
well.
G
One
thing
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
doing
is
with
these
six
new
firefighters
is
that
we're
gonna
once
we
open
staff
station
six?
Is
that
we're
to
use
those
six
that
now
we're
helping
and
hiring
for
what
is
needed
and
just
moving
them
over
immediately
to
six,
so
that
we're
at
the
same
staffing
level
that
we
are
now.
G
I
G
Well,
I'd
really
like,
I
think,
training
needs
to
be
involved
in
this
in
some
capacity,
and
I
think
the
safety
committee
I
mean
there
needs
to
be
guidelines
or
rules
that
come
up
with
that
again.
The
fact
that
they
haven't
met
yet
is
is
shocking.
So
I
would
ask
everyone
up
here:
training
them.
Some
sort
needs
to
be
implemented
or
budgeted.
In
this.
This
I
mean
it's
long
overdue.
D
G
H
D
I
D
D
Suppression,
so
in
may,
when
I
went
to
your
awards
ceremony
and
you
have
district
chief
promotions,
you
have
lieutenant
promotions,
you
have
engineer
promotions.
Is
there
any
training
program
for
them
as
they
get
promoted?
I
mean
besides
you
promote
them
and
now
they're
assigned.
Is
there
anything
in
place
for
them
to
understand
their
new
duties,
their
new
responsibilities
and.
I
That's
something
that
I've
really
been
trying
to
tackle
with
the
officer
development
program.
It's
something
you
know
it
actually
asked
a
lieutenant
to
head
up
and
look
at
and
meet
with
a
committee
to
see
at
each
level.
You
know
it's
not
just
a
district
chief.
That
is
important.
Don't
don't
get
me
wrong,
but
at
a
lieutenant
level,
an
engineer
level
looking
at
that
and
almost
making.
I
I
want
to
kind
of
make
it
a
mandatory
program
eventually
when
they
get
up
and
running,
to
promote
and
looking
and
talking
with
other
agencies
is
something
we
might
do
on
a
regional
level.
So
it's
just
beyond
having
certification
and
things
like
that,
tackling
things,
especially
the
district
chief
level
like
hr,
like
finance,
related
stuff,
the
more
that
we
deal
with
on
an
administration
level
with
some
of
that
stuff.
I
I
Yeah
and
again,
that's
something
we
want
to
do
in-house.
You
know
so
meeting
with
and
with
a
lieutenant
who's
going
to
be
establishing
that
committee
and
making
sure
that
we're
rolling
forward
with
identifying
needs
and
things
that
that
they
see
from
the
boots
up,
if
that
makes
sense
that
they
identify
as
shortcomings
and
that
way
we're
able
to
tackle
and
develop
a
plan,
a
development
program,
basically
to
identify
some
of
that
stuff
and
train
on
that.
D
This
is
where
you
need
to
take
advantage
of.
How
do
we
make
some
changes
now
so
that,
because
every
I'm
listening
to
you
and
you're
saying
we're
working
on
that
we're
working
on
that?
Well,
if
anything,
the
death
of
austin
doran
should
say
to
you,
we
need
to
change
things
now,
so
we
never
have
to
be
where
we
were
this
past
week.
D
I
Safety
committee
we
had
one
just
retire,
chief
jones
was
on
it
and
we
have
and
we're
gonna
have
to,
and
that
was
another
thing
that
we're
actually
getting
ready
to
do
is
I
want
a
diverse
safety
group.
We
had
a
lot
of
chief
officers
that
were
on
there
versus
ground
level
guys.
So
it's
something
very
much
that
we're
going
to
look
at
moving
forward.
So.
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H
Again,
if
there's
things
that
we
need,
let
us
know
so
we
can
help
you.
You
know
help
us
help.
You
yeah
just
curious
about
the
thing
that
you
mentioned
about
the
vent
being
off.
Is
this
something
that
you
said
something
there's
in
the
floor?
So
is
this
a
matter
of
something
got
kicked
off?
That
needs
to
be
replaced,
or
is
this
a
are
there
dangerous
fumes
coming
through
that,
or
is
it
just
we're
blowing
hot
air
into
a
room
we're
trying
to
air
condition?
H
I
H
H
F
B
I
have
one
one
other
question
and
you
mentioned
by
the
fact
that
we're
growing
and
we're
going
to
be
adding
a
station
seven
we're
talking
about
indexing,
some
additional
properties
into
apopka,
going
to
the
south,
east
and
west.
What
have
you
are
we
going
to
need
an
additional
station
if
we
end
that
south
apopka,
and
so
this
that
is
going
to
require
us
to
have
a
budget
amendment
or
you
think,
station
6
will
be
able
to.
I
F
K
We
have
also
reorganized
the
agency
to
try
to
move
efficient
in
the
services
we
provide
to
the
community
based
on
the
changes
and
measurements
we
monitor.
We
have
submitted
our
budget
and
prepared
a
presentation
to
document
our
accomplishments,
along
with
providing
our
needs
and
concerns,
as
we
move
forward,
hopefully
that
you
all
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
what
we
submitted
for
our
overall
budget
and
continuing
to
make
a
safety
a
priority
as
city
prepares
for
the
rapid
and
increased
growth.
The
safety
of
our
community
will
always
be
a
top
concern
of
our
residents.
K
An
investment
in
public
safety
fosters
trust,
gets
people
engaged
in
their
communities
and
supports
economic
activity,
public
safety
perceptions
used
by
community
members
to
determine
how
safe
they
really
feel.
Public
safety
is
a
location
factor
for
individuals
looking
to
more
to
move
into
a
community
and
for
companies
looking
to
invest
in
the
company
in
the
community.
K
Some
of
our
accomplishments
for
this
past
year
covet
kind
of
changes,
the
landscape,
the
way
that
we
operate
and
move
the
events
that
continue
to
occur
around
the
country.
I
don't
think
I
need
to
speak
on
that.
I
think
that
you've,
if
you
watch
this
you'll
know
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
cover.
19
has
changed
the
employment
landscape
and
made
it
challenging
to
find
applicants
and
to
hire
new
personnel.
K
K
Currently
we
have
18
positions
open
here
at
apopka
police
department,
we've
tried
social
media
we've
gone
out
to
the
local
four
academies
here,
which
is
osceola
lake,
seminole
and
valencia,
but
we
had
to
change
that.
We
had
to
expand
our
search,
we've
gone
down
to
polk
county
we've
gone
up,
marion
county
and
we
just
tested.
I
think,
six
individuals
on
friday,
two
of
those
individuals
made
it
through,
so
we're
struggling.
K
K
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K
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So
that's
a
game.
Changer,
it's
a
game!
Changer.
We
need
to
change
the
way
we're
doing
things
and
in
this
budget
you'll
see
that
we
we're
asking
we're
requesting
some
funds
to
actually
do
that
to
actually
pay
for
some
individuals
to
attend
the
the
academy,
there's
only
three
slots
in
there,
but
we
need
10
15..
K
Events
around
the
country
due
to
the
events
that
continue
around
the
country
law
enforcement
is
still
facing.
Many
challenges
that
we
have
not
faced
before.
Law
enforcement
officers
are
being
attacked
and
killed
in
record
numbers.
Violence
around
the
country
is
increasing
and
apopka
is
not
immune
from
that
violence.
K
Often
these
mandates
are
needed
and,
to
date,
all
the
mandated
requirement
have
been
implemented
by
our
agency
well
before
being
required
to,
I
don't
know
if
you
know,
but
probably
heard
some
of
you.
We
continue
to
conduct
the
right,
training,
racial
intelligence,
de-escalation,
training,
fair
and
impartial
policing,
training
to
ensure
our
personnel
well-trained
and
aware
of
the
issues
facing
the
police
profession.
K
Currently
we
have
a
check
today
we
have,
I
think,
five
vacancies
and
crossing
guard.
So
is
there
anybody
out
there
in
the
listening
world?
Listening
to
me,
please
go
online
here
in
the
city
and
submit
or
tell
someone
that
we
have
vegas
and
school
crossing.
So
school
starts
probably
two
weeks
out
and
we're
definitely
down.
K
K
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K
K
K
Full
services,
personnel,
salary
study,
increases,
increase
in
funding
for
patrol
vehicle
maintenance,
purchase
of
new
hire,
ballistic
vest,
purchase
of
88
expiring
kevlar
helmets
carry
over
funding
from
the
2122
equipment
to
outfit.
The
20
sworn
officers
increase
in
funding
for
fuel
body
camera,
tasers,
continuing
contract
and
intersection
traffic
cameras
and
server
to
store
camera.
K
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Approved
and
planned
growth.
Currently
there
are
9
900
dwelling
units
planned
or
under
construction
in
the
city
of
apopka.
This
is
up
from
the
7
270
dwelling
units
planned
were
under
construction
last
year
and
57
77
the
year
before,
based
on
the
city's
community
development
unit
in
april
2021,
the
average
household
had
2.79
persons
living
in
it.
The
residential
growth
will
add
an
estimated
27
621
residents
to
the
city
of
apopka
over
the
next
few
years.
This
is
up
from
the
estimated
21
810.
K
In
addition,
there's
14
million
square
foot
of
industrial
and
commercial
growth
planned
or
under
construction.
This
is
up
from
the
estimated
11
million
last
year.
The
city
continues
to
modify
the
future
land
use
within
the
city
and
allow
for
rezoning
that
allows
the
denser
growth.
As
a
result,
we
are
experiencing
an
increase
in
apartment
complexes
and
town
homes.
All
the
growth
is
going
to
continue
to
tax
on
the
resources
that
we
currently
have.
K
K
Due
to
the
city's
growth
in
2021,
the
apopka
police
department
fell
from
a
per
capita
of
2.09
in
2021
to
2.08
in
2022,
as
this
graph
shows,
we
continue
to
below
be
below
the
state
and
local
average
for
officers
per
1000
residents
authorized
positions.
We
have
122
authorized
positions
at
the
police
department
since
fiscal
year,
15
we've
added
24,
authorized
police
officer
positions
to
the
police
department
authorized
number.
K
K
That's
our
goal.
That's
our
mission
or
to
to
fill
those
positions,
and
I
tell
each
and
every
one
of
our
employees,
just
because
we
have
someone
in
the
recruiting
section
doesn't
mean
that
each
and
every
one
of
you
aren't
recruiters,
because
each
and
every
day
that
you
suit
up
and
you
get
ready
to
go
to
work
and
when
you
make
your
contacts
wherever
you
are
you're
recruiting,
because
they're
evaluating
you
they're
watching
you
and
so.
K
The
chart
shows
a
comparison
of
the
square
miles
for
several
local
cities.
The
average
square
miles
for
the
city
listed
are
21.87,
as
you
can
see,
35
points
at
35.5
square
miles.
We
have
the
third
largest
service
area
listed
out
these
cities
that
I
have
shown
here,
local
agency
officers
per
square
mile,
as
you
can
see
from
the
slide.
Not
only
do
we
have
one
of
the
lowest
per
capitas
in
the
area.
We
also
have
one
of
the
lowest
officers
per
square
mile
ratios
among
the
agencies
listed.
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K
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We
are
currently
authorized
at
122,
however,
if
we
intend
to
improve
our
per
capita
an
officer
per
square
mile,
the
ratios
be
closer
in
line
with
the
state
average
and
surrounding
agencies.
We
must
continue
to
add
additional
police
officers
in
order
to
attain
the
state
per
capita
average
of
2.33
officers
per
1.
000
residents
are
authorized.
Sworn
position
should
be
approximately
136..
K
These
additional
five
officers
will
assist
in
keeping
up
with
the
residential
and
commercial
population
boom
occurring
across
the
city.
As
mentioned
earlier,
we
currently
have
9
900
residential
units
are
planned
for
under
construction.
Over
14
million
square
foot
of
industrial
commercial
space
are
planned
or
under
construction,
recruitment
and
retention.
K
Or
are
not
currently
provided
to
our
personnel.
Had
a
friend
of
mine
called
me
from
over
in
volusia
county,
they
run
the
academy
over
there
and
they
say
yours
must
have
been
burning.
I
said
why
you
say
that,
because
I
got
two
recruits
in
my
class,
I'm
talking
to
trying
to
send
them
to
apopka
and
first
question.
Second
question
she
asked
me
was:
do
we
offer
educational
reimbursement
assistance?
K
I
said
no,
we
once
did
not
too
long
back,
but
we
don't
have
that
anymore
and
they
said
well.
That
was
a
deal
breaker
for
them.
I
said:
well,
don't
tell
them
to
give
up
on
us
that
easy.
Just
because
of
that
you
know.
I
said
you
know
we
can
always
work
towards
some
things
and
see
if
we
can
get
it
back
in
the
budget.
K
But
my
point
is:
with
these
benefits:
we
used
to
pump
our
chests
a
little
bit
here
in
apopka
and
talk
about
where
we
were
with
our
benefits,
but
these
other
municipalities
and
governments
they
they're
surpassing
us
now
and
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
those.
I
think
it's
city
volcoy.
They
got
a
union
over
there.
The
police
department-
and
I
think
we
get
2.77
per
week
for
pto-
I
think
they're
almost
they're
over
three
percent
or
three
point
something
per
week.
K
So
those
are
the
little
things
that
we
don't
think
that
these
young
applicants
are
looking
at,
but
they
are
and
when
these
recruiters
go
out
to
these
academies,
they're
talking
about
it
and
they're
telling
these
recruits,
who
has
what
and
what
they're
able
to
offer
them?
So
you
know
we
every
now,
then
we
need
to
reach
back
and
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
where
we
are
and
where
we're
trying
to
get
to
the
apopka
police
department
used
to
be
at
the
top
or
the
near.
K
When
it
came
to
police
officers,
pay
our
starting
pay
has
dropped
compared
to
other
agencies
over
the
past
several
years.
Everyone
is
hiring.
Everyone
is
competing
for
the
limited
number
of
academy
applicants
we're
now
competing
locally
regionally
for
qualified
applicants.
Our
recruiters
are
traveling
the
state
to
visit
academies
where
we
used
to
be
able
just
to
go
to
the
fort
that
I
listed
earlier.
Lake
seminole,
osceola
and
valencia
can't
do
that
anymore.
K
It
has
always
been
a
dangerous
and
difficult
and
challenging
job.
However,
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
violence
towards
law
enforcement
has
dramatically
increased
recruits
in
our
hiring
process
are
being
picked
picked
up
by
other
agencies
with
higher
pay.
You
know
sad
to
say
you
know
I
walk
around
the
building
and
I
talk
to
some
of
the
officers
sometime
and
I
hear
him
I
overhear
him
talking,
and
then
I
say
what
you
just
say.
You
know
well
I'm
processing
with
such
and
such
agency.
K
I'm
processing
here
why
you
know
we
always
here
is
because
you
know
they
got
family
here.
You
know
we
can't
stop
them
for
that,
but
when
it
comes
down
to
these
benefits,
pay
and
things
of
that
nature,
I
think,
if
we're
in
the
ball
game,
I
think
we
can
keep
them,
because
I
think
we
have
some
of
the
best
of
the
best
here
in
the
city
of
apopka
working
and
I
hate
to
see
them
spend
three
years
five
years
here
with
us
trained
up
and
take
their
talents
elsewhere.
K
K
I
don't
know.
If
someone
else
was
talking
at
him
pulling
him
say:
hey
we
got
dangling
that
carrot
in
his
face.
I
don't
know
he
didn't
give
it
up.
He
didn't
say
at
the
exit
interview,
but
those
are
the
things
that
we're
dealing
with
now
and
they're.
Looking
and
they're
talking
recruits
in
a
hiring
process
are
being
picked
up
by
other
agencies.
Our
experienced
highly
trained
personnel
are
sought
out
after
other
agencies,
especially
larger
ones.
Larger
agencies
offer
benefits
other
than
higher
pay.
They
offer
the
opportunity
of
a
more
diverse
career.
K
They
also
have
off-duty
opportunities
that
we
don't
have
here,
but
we
do
go
and
assist
the
city
of
orlando
with
off
duty
and
a
lot
of
our
officers
take
advantage
of
that.
So,
but
even
with
that,
when
they're
down
there
working
some
of
these
events,
you
got
orlando
and
orange
county
trying
to
pick
them
off
trying
to
hire.
K
So
you
know
watch
what
you
asked
for
you
know
they
want
more
off
duty,
but
we
got
to
be
careful
so
covet
changed
the
employment
landscape,
many
people
are
choosing
to
work
at
home.
Law
enforcement.
Profession
has
also
changed
over
the
past
several
years,
resulting
in
less
applicants
and
less
police
academy
graduates.
That's
the
fact
you
can
go
to
any
academy
around
here
and
you'll
see
smaller
and
smaller
classes,
so
in
turn
we're
all
fighting
for
the
same
15
people
in
an
academy
class.
K
Our
current
salary
here
at
apopka
is
46
6
and
has
fallen
out
of
the
market
police
officers.
Starting
pay
has
not
been
adjusted
since
2019
when
the
city
conducted
a
salary
study,
while
other
agencies
in
the
area
have
increased
their
starting
pay.
Current
starting
pay
is
not
within
the
market
where
the
market
is
going
and
is
making
recruiting
very
difficult.
K
K
Salary
information
and
data
in
the
following
sections
of
the
presentation
was
obtained
from
a
survey
developed
and
sent
out
by
the
apopka
police
department.
In
march
of
this
year,
the
survey
was
sent
to
law
enforcement
agencies
in
orange,
osceola
seminole,
volusia
lake
and
brevard
county
of
the
60
agencies.
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Orange
county
corrections
during
negotiations,
starting
at
fifty
thousand
sixteen
and
sixty
cent
state
budget,
is
allocating
a
starting
salary
for
teachers
of
forty
seven
thousand
dollars.
State
is
changing
the
florida
retirement
system
to
allow
for
eight
years
of
drop.
This
will
match
our
city
of
apopka's
drop.
K
When
I
tell
you
they're
always
looking
and
working
on
their
benefits,
that's
one
thing:
they
just
changed.
One
of
the
command
staff
from
the
sheriff's
office
is
going
to
retire
into
this
month.
When
the
governor
signed
this
bill,
he
called
and
told
me
saying:
no
jerome
stand
another
three
years.
He
said
I
just
won't
be
in
the
apopka
area
anymore,
I'm
going
to
the
criminal
investigations
division.
So
I
was
happy
for
him
because
I
know
he
wasn't
ready
to
go
and
he
said
he'll.
K
K
All
the
local
agencies
mentioned
in
the
previous
slides
are
competing
for
the
same
law
enforcement
applicants
that
we
are.
We
have
adjusted
our
recruiting
practices
and
now
travel
to
academies
across
the
state.
Looking
for
applicants,
we
used
to
be
able
to
find
sufficient
applicants
from
just
the
four
law
enforcement
academies
I
mentioned.
There's.
This
is
no
longer
the
case,
as
most
academy
recruits
are
already
sponsored
by
an
agency,
while
in
the
academy
to
remain
competitive
in
today's
market.
K
K
Our
top
paid
doesn't
need
to
be
looked
at.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
addressed.
I
think
we're
well
in
the
market
with
that.
To
avoid
compression
issues
among
officers,
it
is
recommended
that
the
9.5
wage
adjustment
be
applied
across
the
rank
of
police
officer,
currently
51
percent
of
our
police
officers.
K
K
Approximately
20
percent
of
our
police
officers,
if
all
authorized
positions
were
filled,
have
been
have
between
five
and
ten
years.
Experience
we're
young
folk,
we're
young,
very
young,
and
you
know
I
hear
some
of
these
senior
officers
around
here.
Oh
man,
I'm
here
20
years
I
hit
25
they're
looking
they're
talking,
and
it
won't
be
long
before
they're
walking
out
that
door
and
if
we
don't
do
something
and
bring
people
in
house,
it's
going
to
be
rough.
It's
going
to
be
rough.
K
K
It's
a
fact
because
somebody
tried
to
reach
out
to
me
from
one
of
them.
I
said
no,
I
said
I'm
not
going
through
that
again,
no
26
years,
I'm
good,
so
they
are
reaching
out
no
doubt
currently,
when
an
officer
is
promoted
to
corporal
they
receive
a
two
percent
raise
and
now
we're
talking
about
our
lead
police
officers.
What
you'll
see
in
the
corpus
two
stripes
on
their
shirts?
K
K
K
Officers
are
normally
eligible
for
corporal
after
three
years
of
service.
If
an
officer
received
the
maximum
allocated
raise
of
six
percent
those
three
years,
their
salary
would
approximately
be
54
988
annually.
It
is
recommended
that
the
pay
grade
11p
be
implemented.
This
would
be
within
the
pay
grade
of
officers
that
would
normally
be
eligible
for
corporal.
K
K
K
Currently,
I
think
we
have
12,
I
know
on
the
slide.
It
says
we
have
12
authorized
sergeant
positions
within
the
agency,
as
you
can
see
from
the
previous
slide,
our
starting
sergeant
salary
has
fallen
out
of
market
since
the
city's
salary
survey
conducted
in
2019,
many
of
the
smaller
agencies
in
the
area
have
surpassed
our
starting
sergeant
salary.
K
The
average
starting
salary
for
sergeant
for
the
agencies
listed
on
the
previous
slide
is
64
313
dollars
and
three
cents
versus
our
stern
salary
of
sixty
thousand
four
hundred
sixty
seven.
This
puts
our
starting
sergeant
salary.
Six
point:
four
percent
out
of
the
market
average
for
the
agencies
listed.
K
To
bring
our
sergeants
back
into
the
market,
we're
recommending
an
increase
to
the
starting
sergeant
salary
of
9.5
percent.
This
will
bring
them
to
a
starting
salary
of
66,
211
and
37
cents.
To
avoid
compression
issues
among
their
surgeons
and
other
ranks,
it
is
recommended
that
this
increase
be
across
the
board
for
all
current
sergeants.
K
There
are
currently
seven
authorized
lieutenant
positions
in
the
agency.
We
just
lost
one
he
retired
out
and
went
to
go
work
for
the
state
attorney's
office
as
an
investigator
within
the
last
month.
The
average
lieutenant
pay
for
the
agencies
listed
on
the
previous
page
is
75
339.28
versus
our
current
starting
salary
of
73
165..
K
K
K
The
communication
technician
at
apopka
police
department
are
trained
in
every
facet
related
to
the
9-1-1
center.
They
must
be
able
to
answer
emergency
and
non-emergency
calls
for
service
dispatch.
Calls
for
service
handle,
teletype
dispatch
for
other
agencies,
mainland
in
edenville,
as
well
as
dispatch
for
our
fire
department.
K
This
is
unique
from
the
surrounding
dispatch
centers,
in
that
other
agency's
dispatchers
often
have
their
personnel
specialized
in
each
position,
and
they
are
not
required
to
be
trained
in
all
positions.
As
the
apopka
dispatchers
are
the
majority
of
the
communication,
centers
specialize
in
police
or
fire,
and
not
both.
K
K
Currently,
the
orange
county
sheriff's
office
is
approximately
35
percent
telecommunication.
Short
of
their
202
authorized
positions.
Winter
garden,
police
department
has
approximately
six
vacancies
out
of
their
20
authorized
positions.
Osceola
county
sheriff
currently
is
approximately
24
vacancies
out
of
their
60
authorized
winter
park.
Police
department
has
approximately
six
vacancies
out
of
their
18
authorized
positions
and
has
raised
their
starting
salary
to
forty
one
thousand
and
fifty
seven
dollars
to
attract
applicants.
K
In
order
to
be
competitive
and
attractive
qualified
applicants,
it
is
recommended
that
the
starting
salary
for
communications
technicians
be
raised
to
forty
one
thousand
two
hundred
and
ninety
nine
dollars
to
achieve
this
increase
communications
technicians
will
be
moved
from
their
current
pay
grade.
Seven
to
pay
grade.
Eight.
This
salary
will
increase.
K
Move
apopka
up
to
the
near
the
top
of
the
list,
as
we
do
not
know
what
the
other
agencies
around
us
are
considering
raising
their
starting
salary
to.
As
with
previous
salary
adjustment
recommendations,
it's
recommended
that
the
salary
increase
10
percent,
be
across
the
board
to
eliminate
compression
issues
among
current
personnel.
K
Our
lead
communication
personnel
are
the
supervisors
within
our
com
center.
They
perform
all
the
functions
of
the
communication
technicians,
along
with
having
additional
responsibility
of
supervising
personnel.
The
current
starting
salary
for
lead
communication
technician
is
41
299
and
55.
Cent
raising
the
communications
technician
starting
salary
at
41,
299
and
55
cent
will
place
both
the
communications,
tech
and
lee
communications
tech
in
the
same
pay
grade
creating
compression
issues.
To
avoid
the
compression
issues,
it
is
recommended
that
the
lead
communications,
technician's
starting
salary,
be
adjusted
to
46
000,
no
45,
429
and
51.
K
K
K
Attorneys
court
personnel
outside
agencies
and
the
general
public
completes
information
entries
into
fcic
for
validation
reports,
fingerprints,
city
personnel,
as
well
as
the
public
conducts
records
checks
for
the
public
and
answer
all
incoming
phone
calls
to
the
police
department,
collects
receipts
and
records
various
fines
and
fees
balance
and
submit
monies
daily
to
appropriate
office.
As
you
can
see,
our
records
clerk
position
is
no
longer
a
generated
clerk
position.
K
K
The
proposed
funding
source
carry
over
from
personnel
savings
in
the
year's
budget
from
the
various
vacancies
within
the
agency.
It
is
anticipated
that
there
will
be
over
one
million
dollars
made
in
the
police
department's
fiscal
year.
2122
personnel
budget
that
can
be
utilized
to
fund
the
proposed
salary
increases.
G
K
G
Okay,
because,
especially
with
where
your
funding
source,
where
you
that
we
already
have
kind
of
funds
there,
I
would
almost
want
to
see
that
increase
to
a
higher
number,
just
for
kind
of
where
we're
at
just
more
academy
reimbursement,
I
think,
would
be
valuable
to
fill.
What
we
need
to.
I
think
that
would
those
two
together
with
the
increase
in
salaries
would
be
really.
G
For
our
city,
other
than
that,
I
it's,
I
hope,
we're
not
here
again.
I
hope
we
don't
come
from
four
years
ago
and
then
now
we're
doing
big
jumps
when
we
don't
need
to,
they
can
be
small,
incremental
jumps,
and
I
hope
that
us
as
a
council,
we
we
continue
to
make
those
small
incremental
jumps.
So
it's
not
10
increases
that
we're
seeing
and
we're
so
under
under
the
market.
G
B
K
B
F
K
B
H
Actually
sent
the
name
of
a
young
man
this
week,
so
hopefully
we
can
land
that
one
again,
thank
you
yeah.
You
helped
us
help
you.
This
is
really
clear
for
us
and
we
absolutely
need
to
make
this
jump
or
we're
going
to
be
in
a
very
difficult
position.
That's
been
my
concern,
of
course,
for
our
police
department.
No
one's
got
to
to
help
bring
this
up
where
we
need
to
be
so.
I
have.
I
have
no
problem
with
these
numbers
and
my
concern
would
be
again.
H
H
The
the
level
of
danger
involved
because
of
what's
happened
nationally,
obviously
has
increased,
and
so
I
think,
that's
part
of
what's
driving
this
I
wanted
to
ask:
is
there
any
have
we
had
any
how
to
state
credible
threats
locally
that
we're
aware
of
without
you
giving
away
anything
other
than
the
the
general
threat
that
we
feel
as
a
nation
is?
Are
there
things
that
concern
you
or
concern
the
police
department
here
locally?
K
K
Definitely
advise
you
know
the
biggest
thing
is
you
know
we
when
we
go
home
during
the
day-
and
you
know
we
just
hope
and
pray
that
each
one
of
our
personnel
make
it
home
safe
every
day,
every
shift-
and
you
know
they
always
ask
you
know.
What's
one
thing
that
you
know
keeps
you
up
at
night:
what
are
your
troops
out
here?
Doing?
Are
they
safe?
So
that's
the
biggest
fear.
K
H
H
Big
issue
for
me:
you're
asking
us
to
fund
this
with
funds
that
are
already
there,
but
we're
going
to
need
to
add
officers,
as
you
said,
as
well,
so
literally
a
minimum
of
750
000
we're
going
to
be
needing
to
look
for
that's
going
to
be
another
ask,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that.
Well,
let
me
ask
this:
is
that
sufficient
from
our
impact
funds?
You
know
again,
we
tried
to
set
those
high
knowing
what
was
coming.
H
So
again,
then,
where
are
we
going
to
be
funding
those
things?
That's
what
we
need
to
be.
I
just
want
to
think
forward,
because
this
is
not
something
that
we
probably
should
do.
This
is
something
we're
going
to
have
to
do
right,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
of
course,
for
all
of
us
that
we're
looking
forward
to
knowing
that's
that's,
not
just
a
an
option
to
me.
That's
a
an
outside.
A
I
think
we
balanced
the
the
budget
last
year.
I
mean
yes
he's
right.
We
because
we've
had
those
open
positions.
We've
got
money
to
decide,
but
the
budget
you're
looking
at
is
based
on
the
revenue
we've
got
coming
in
versus
the
expenses
that
we
have.
So
it's
not
we're
not
you're
right.
We
don't
want
to
take
money
out
one-time
money
out
for
reoccurring
expenses,
so
this
does
not
do
that.
That's
that's
the
question.
You're
asking.
H
Just
trying
to
pare
down
my
list
here,
let
me
ask
this
question:
it's
a
difficult
one
to
ask
if
we
were
discussing
a
police
tragedy
like
what
we
just
had
to
go
through
with
our
fire.
Is
there
anything
that
we
would
look
at
how
we're
operating
that
we
should
do
better,
should
give
better
focus
on
just
again
being
deputy
chief.
Is
there
anything
that
you
can
tell
us
that
we
can
anticipate
to
say
you
know
what?
Maybe
we
ought
to
get
some
more
focus
and
if
it's
a
funding
related
issue,
that's
why
we're
here.
K
K
H
Thank
god
we're
seeing
that
and
seeing
some
good
numbers.
So
I'm
hoping
that
some
of
the
expected
continued
increase
can
help
make
up
for
that
750
and
beyond
what
we're
going
to
need
to
do
to
catch
up
and
again,
that's
that
should
be
always
our
goal
as
apopka
should
be
at
the
top
of
those
lists
and
in
every
one
of
our
departments.
That's
what
we
need
to
strive
for
so
again,
thank
you
for
a
good
presentation.
D
Well,
you
know
that
I'm
I
have
been
following
just
across
not
just
the
state
but
outside
of
the
state
and
and
you're
right
part
of
the
challenge
that
we
have,
regardless
of
all,
these
increases
is
recruitment.
Yes,
and
I
just
that's,
not
an
answer,
an
easy
answer
I
just
feel
like.
If
we
can
bring
the
salaries
up,
then
we
can
be
a
little
bit
competitive.
D
K
D
K
D
K
I'll
use
the
athletic
analogy,
you
know
coach,
I
always
say
you
got
to
get
in
the
game
we're
outside
in
the
parking
lot
right
now
we're
not
even
in
the
ballpark
okay,
we
need
to
get
in
the
ballpark,
so
we
can
make
a
difference.
We
can
make
a
change
and
be
viable
and
when
we
go
on
these
recruiting
trips
and
we
go
to
these
academies
and
they
see
that
we're
up
to
51
thousand
dollars,
I
want
to
go
work
in
apoca
at
least
that'll
attract
them,
because
right
now,
they're,
not
even
looking.
K
K
I
got
friends
that
work
over
in
seminole
county,
like
I.t
director
hitler
was
saying
earlier.
You
know
we're
on
seminole
counties,
cafe
system
and
I
see
individuals
from
agencies
over
in
seminole
county
and
they
always
say
man.
They
are
what
they
call
the
scoreboard.
They
look
at
the
screen
and
say
man,
you
guys
are
always
busy
in
apoca.
K
K
D
They
make
more
money
and
they're
willing
to
sacrifice
wanting
to
be
in
the
police
department
they're
happy
with,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it's
really
about
finances.
Is
there
anything
that
we
are
trying
to
do?
I
mean
we
have
so
much
development
coming
into
our
community,
where
we
can
at
least
try
and
make
some
networking
with
some
of
our
developers
about
you
know
having.
D
K
D
K
Try
to
get
in
there
early
but,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
these
sheriff
offices,
you
know
they
already
have
them
picked.
They
got
them
chosen
before
we
even
get
there.
You
know
they
have
open
dates
for
us
to
come
and
I'll
tell
our
people.
I
said:
let's
get
in
there
early
as
we
can
possibly
get
in
there
as
soon
as
they
start
the
academy,
let's
get
in
there
and
see
if
we
can
talk
to
them
a
lot
of
times
sheriff
offers
already
have
them
when
we
get.
There
are.
K
G
B
K
G
K
H
J
D
A
C
C
It's
been
a
month
since
austin's
accident
opened
all
of
our
eyes
and
absolutely
nothing
has
been
done
to
fix
the
environment
and
operational
weaknesses
that
led
to
it.
I've
heard
it
said
in
this
room
on
multiple
occasions
that
these
were
safety
issues
that
somebody
would
be
up
here,
jumping
and
screaming.
C
C
C
C
Qualified
to
do
the
people
that
we're
hiring
they're
they're
getting
them
straight
out
of
high
school,
they
don't
have
any
prior
life
experience,
they
don't
have
any
job
experience
to
fall
back
on
and
we're
throwing
them
in
with
a
one
year.
Person
is
now
training
somebody
with
two
weeks
on
the
job:
that's
their
mentor,
that's
their
oversight,
that's
not
going
to
make
anything
safe
for
our
community
or
for
firefighters.
C
We
need
somebody
at
the
top
and,
as
some
some
of
you
mentioned
this
evening,
we
have
I
mean,
if
we're
adding
an
additional
aerial
vehicle,
we
have
to
have
somebody
at
the
top
somebody
with
the
experience
and
the
training
and
the
know-how,
someone
who's
accountable
to
pass
that
information
down
to
our
youth
right.
I
can't
do
it.
We
can't
have
23
different
lieutenants,
creating
a
training
program
for
kids
straight
out
of
high
school,
we're
not
equipped
for
that.
We
have
enough
on
our
plate
just
to
get
by.
C
We
need
a
sole
training
officer.
We
desperately
need
one
to
address
our
needs
and
our
problems.
We
need
to
be
honest
with
ourselves.
We
desperately
need
a
health
and
safety
officer
to
save
lives.
How
can
we
possibly
look
at
ourselves
in
the
mirror
after
a
senseless
death
and
think
we
continue
to
make
health
and
life
safety
a
side
job
of
chiefs
that
are
barely
able
to
manage
their
monumental
tasks
as
it
is?
I
beg
you
today.
C
C
There
I
think
there
was
a
fire
inspector
position
as
well,
which
we'd
need,
and
I
don't
know
where
that
went.
Maybe
I'm
maybe
I'm
misremembering,
but
I
thought
that
was
there.
Ultimately,
we
cannot
afford
to
sit
idly.
We
cannot
afford
to
not
reevaluate
what
our
plans
were
and
figure
out
what
pivot
must
be
made.
Now,
if
there
are
better
suggestions
in
mind,
then
please
take
those
actions.
I
don't
claim
to
have
all
the
answers.
C
C
L
L
L
L
So
the
notion
that
we
model
our
squad
system
after
houston
is,
as
far
from
the
truth
as
possible,
because
marty
explained
to
me
they
would
never
utilize
a
squad
to
meet
minimal
manning,
as
mentioned
in
the
past.
What
good
does
a
unit
getting
to
a
fire
with
no
water
do
except
stand
around
and
have
people
looking
at
them.
L
I
put
a
couple
numbers
together
for
you
all
to
consider
as
well
from
july
24
2021
until
yesterday
july,
24
2002,
so
one
year
period
in
that
one
year
squad
one
was
not
available
for
1616
calls
or
four
and
a
half
times
a
day,
they're
not
available,
because
they're
running
other
calls
550
times
squad.
Five
is
not
available
to
run
calls
or
one
and
a
half
times
a
day,
so
total
combined
six
times
a
day.
L
39
of
the
time
squad,
one
was
on
the
call
51
percent
of
time
squad.
Five
was
on
the
call
10
percent
of
the
time
neither
squad
was
available
because
they
were
running
other
calls
400
times.
Last
year,
400
times
we
left
the
fire
station
completely
empty,
with
no
one
there
to
run
a
call
if
needed,
since
we
are
the
only
department
that
takes
a
fire
truck
out
of
service
in
order
to
run
backup
ambulance
calls
over
time
is
another
area
of
concern.
L
L
Take
that
at
one
and
a
half
overtime
payout
with
an
overtime
salary
of
twenty
dollars
an
hour
on
this
that's
extremely
low
side.
We
are
right
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
paid
out
in
overtime
that
equates
to
about
11
additional
bodies
based
on
our
starter
and
salary
or
factor
in
benefits.
H9
employees.
L
Three
people
should
be
a
bare
minimum
on
every
fire
truck
heavy
rescue
tower
truck
with
four
being
the
optimum.
We
can't
continue
fighting
and
waiting
for
the
future
to
get
to
our
three-person
engines.
At
what
point
do
we
say?
Okay,
we
can't
risk
losing
another
citizen
or
heaven
forbid
another
employee,
because
we
want
to
continue
to
live
in
the
past,
not
bring
safety
to
the
forefront
in
the
long
run.
A
lost
life
is
just
going
to
cost
the
city
more
money.
H
Yeah
and-
and
I
want
to
say,
alex
I
I
haven't
gotten
any
communications
I
would
love
to
so
please.
You
know
what
you
had
presented
there
for
some
reason,
I'm
not
on
the
list
or
copied
in
I
look
through
and
I
haven't
gotten
any
of
that.
So
that's
that's
not
my
intention
on
my
part
and
it
this
is
helpful
to
get
this.
This
kind
of
clarity,
so
thank
you
and
you
know
appreciate
it.
D
C
A
Well,
I'd
like
to
thank
jessica
putting
in
a
lot
of
hard
work
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
months.
You
know
putting
these
budget
proposals
together
for
all
the
departments.
She's
really
worked
tirelessly,
I
know
with
vladimir
and
her
whole
team.
So
I
want
to
thank
her
for
getting
what
it's
a
pretty
good
financial
attendant
budget
for
you,
and
also
it's
great
to
have
edward
bass
back
first
night
back
on
the
yeah.
So
we
want
to
thank
him
and
jessica
and
the
finance
team.