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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting January 19, 2022
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on January 19, 2022 at 7 PM.
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B
Let's
pray
heavenly
father,
we
come
before
you
tonight
again,
we
ask
for
your
grace
and
your
mercy.
We
thank
you
for
your
goodness
to
the
community.
We
ask
for
your
wisdom
as
we
make
decisions
that
affect
so
many
and
help
us
to
do
all
things
that
are
pleasing
in
your
sight,
and
we
give
you
the
praise
in
jesus
name,
amen,.
B
And
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands,
one
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all
fact
of
the
day-
and
I
remember
this
on
january,
20th
1981,
the
iran
hostage
crisis
finally
comes
to
an
end
when
52
united
states
citizens
that
were
held
captive
for
over
444
days
at
the
u.s
embassy
in
tehran,
iran
were
released.
The
crisis
began
on
november
4th
1979
when
militant
iranians
seized
the
u.s
embassy
in
tehran,
because
the
u.s
government
allowed
the
ousted
shah
of
iran
travel
to
the
u.s
for
medical
treatment.
C
A
C
D
E
E
2022
marks
the
58th
anniversary
of
the
association
and
over
five
and
a
half
decades,
the
central
florida
fire
chief
association
has
grown
through
the
central
florida
fire
service.
Today,
the
central
florida
fire
chief
association
includes
28
fire
and
ems
agencies
throughout
our
membership
area
of
orange
seminole,
osceola
and
lake
counties.
E
E
E
We
wholeheartedly
welcome
the
apopka
fire
chief
sean
willem
as
our
district
one
orange
county
director
to
the
board,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
him
to
you.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
district
one
director
does.
First
of
all,
sean
chief
willam
see
a
little
bit
of
history
with
chief
wylam,
and
I-
and
this
will
this-
will
give
you
some
insight
on
the
kind
of
individual
you
have
running
your
fire
department
almost
a
decade
ago.
E
I
met
sean
and
I'll
call
him
sean,
because
back
then
it
was
will
and
sean.
My
first
name
is:
will
we
met
to
discuss
operations
and
what
I
mean
by
operations
is
how
agencies
could
come
together
and
work
cohesively
and
collaborate,
ideas
and
learn
from
one
another,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
just
like
we've
learned
through
so
many
tragedies
around
our
country
is
all
about
the
community
coming
together.
Organizations
coming
together
and
working
together
and
sean,
and
I
talked
about
that
very
thing
years
down
the
road
here.
E
F
Now
again,
with
the
long
line
of
leadership,
you
know
50-year
anniversaries,
that's
a
that's
a
lot
to
live
up
to
and
we're
like
will
said,
we're
very
fortunate
in
central
florida
region
to
have
an
amazing
working
relationship
and
collaborative
effort
amongst
all
the
fire
departments,
and
I'm
just
grateful
for
the
opportunity
I'm
going
to
be
part
of
the
future
efforts
for
our
region.
So
thank
you.
It's
awesome.
Okay,
all.
A
A
C
A
H
H
H
The
groups
are
open
to
high
school
students
through
adults,
and
we
will
work
to
accommodate
every
musician
from
every
background
and
walk
of
life.
No
one
will
be
turned
away
as
part
of
this
community
music
program
roll
out.
We
will
also
be
forming
the
first
chapter
of
taps
for
veterans
in
the
country.
H
This
will
be
in
partnership
with
the
national
nonprofit
taps
for
veterans,
and
they
also
do
taps
for
america,
which
many
people
are
familiar
with.
This
program
will
allow
us
to
train
trumpet
players
and
buglers
to
set
the
correct
procedures,
history
and
importance
of
taps
to
our
veterans
and
our
country.
H
It
will
also
allow
us
to
better
service
and
pay
tribute
to
our
veterans
throughout
the
year
and
not
just
on
memorial
and
veterans
days.
Please
note
that
there
are
no
chapters
for
taps
for
veterans
in
the
country.
All
of
their
events
have
relied
on
the
individuals
participating
from
around
the
country.
H
We
would
be
the
very
first
chapter
in
the
country.
The
groups
will
rehearse
on
sunday
afternoon
evenings
between
four
and
nine
pm.
The
choir
will
rehearse
from
four
to
five
pm:
the
big
band
from
5
30
to
6,
30
p.m,
and
the
symphonic
band
from
7
to
9
p.m.
Our
first
rehearsal
will
take
place
on
sunday
march
13th.
H
For
anyone,
that's
interested,
you
can
find
all
the
information,
as
well
as
the
application
to
be
involved
on
our
website,
which
is
music.
To
my
mind.
Dot
com
and
applications
can
be
uploaded
there
to
the
website
or,
if
you
are
not
very
tech,
savvy
and
want
to
just
drop
it
off.
The
our
friends
at
the
apopka
chamber
of
commerce
have
been
very
gracious
to
allow
our
citizens
to
drop
off
their
applications
at
the
chamber
of
commerce.
H
So
for
all
of
you
who
may
have
played
an
instrument
or
staying
in
a
choir
years
ago,
if
you
want
to
dust
off
the
old
pipes,
take
take
the
instrument,
that's
been
turned
into
a
lamp
or
it's
sitting
in
the
closet,
go
ahead
and
take
it
out,
take
out
the
light,
bulb
and
join
us
we'd
love
to
have
you
be
a
part
of
this
we're
asking
that
all
applications
be
uploaded
or
dropped
off
by
march
6th.
This
is
just
so.
H
C
B
Yeah,
I'm
really
excited
about
this,
as
we
got
to
speak
just
before
the
meeting
tonight
and
your
your
background
and
the
credentials
that
you
carry.
You
know
I
immediately
think-
and
maybe
some
do
of
you
know
mayberry
band,
which
wasn't
necessarily
that
good,
but
the
quality
that
I
believe
this
will
bring
out
and
and
just
that
sense
of
community
I'm
really
excited
about.
I
think
it's
a
great
program.
Thank
you.
J
Same
I
mean
when
you
sat
and
you
first
of
all
from
wekiva
high
school.
We
you
know
we
enjoy
their
band
when
they
come
out
to
our
festivals
and
the
parades,
and
that
so
I
know
that
you're
gonna
do
a
fantastic
job
and-
and
it's
a
great
dedication
on
your
part,
to
even
start
this
for
the
community.
So
it's
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
results
of
it.
Thank
you.
K
H
A
A
A
H
G
G
We
also
reached
out
to
cei
engineering
associates,
we
consulted
with
them
and
they
helped
put
together
this
plan.
So
just
just
to
refresh
everybody's
memory
on
what
the
community
was
looking
for,
number
one
was
restrooms,
which
were,
of
course
working
on
already
accessible
playground,
more
fields,
additional
field
lights,
which
were
also
working
on
dog
park
and
tennis,
basketball,
courts
and
disc
golf
was
eight
top
right
in
response.
G
By
far
was
for
an
aquatic
facility,
of
course,
there's
skate
park,
pavilions
trails
and
field
house
rounded
out
so
cei
engineering
associates
over
40
000
projects
in
48
years,
licensed
civil
engineering
firm,
both
civil
and
sports
field
engineering
services,
experience
that
includes
a
full
range
of
sports
facilities.
Jeff
brecie,
who
I
spoke
with,
has
20
years
of
design
experience
with
outdoor
sports
facilities
and
specifically
more
than
300
sports
facility
projects
on
his
own.
G
G
Field
house
and
aquatics
facility
here
right,
11,
full-sided,
soccer
fields,
multi-purpose
fields
in
this
area-
and
this
is
parking
there's
a
restroom
facility
over
here
down
in
this
area,
is
dog
park
and
parking
and
there's
a
restroom
facility
there
over
here.
This
is
six
new
basketball
courts,
six
volleyball
courts.
This
is
12
pickleball
courts.
G
These
are
seven
new
tennis
courts
to
go
with
the
four
that
are
there.
This
is
an
ada
playground
and
here's
nine
ball
fields
and
we
do
have
already
budgeted
the
exit
road
going
to
jason,
dwell
it's
a
one-way
exit
road
out,
so
that
in
here
is
more
parking.
There's
the
amphitheater
and
pavilions
in
this
area,
so
tennis
courts
would
cost
like.
G
I
said,
seventy
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
twelve
pickleball
court,
six
hundred
thousand
six
basketball,
a
million
volleyball
courts,
those
are
sand,
volleyball
courts,
100,
000,
100
000
for
dog
park
and
then,
when
we
had
parking
and
and
the
restroom
and
all
that
that's
1.25
new
ball
fields
in
this
area,
which
is
south
of
the
fire
station.
That's
eight
there's
nine
plus
the
parking
in
here
and
there's
a
restroom
facility
in
here
and
there's
buildings
in
this
area,
all
together,
that's
about
eight
million
dollars
and
then
there's
ada
playground.
G
That's
the
north
side
of
the
fire
station
for
1.5.
Now
the
thing
about
and
there's
a
little
asterisk
there
is,
we
think
there's
a
good
chance
that
that
at
some
point
we'll
get
a
grant
for
that
that
at
least
help
pay
for
part
of
that
multi-purpose
fields.
That's
back
in
the
northwest
area,
a
northwest
part
of
northwest.
G
G
This
quad
in
the
middle
here
and
these
lights
in
here
are
20
years
old
and
the
rest
of
our
lights
are
about
12
years
old.
So
over
time,
we're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
replace
we're,
not
gonna
be
able
to
fix
them
anymore.
So
we
have
to
we're
gonna
have
to
over
time
change
them
all
out
to
led,
and
then
this
is
near
the
amphitheater.
G
Here's
a
pavilion
area
and
then
and
then
more
parking,
and
you
see
that's
2.5
million
and
the
field
house,
the
field
house
and
aquatics
facility
combined
for
7.5
million
and
you
see
operating
costs,
are
also
they're.
1.2
million
a
year
so
phase
one
adds
up
to
10
million
dollars.
That
would
be
the
courts
in
here
and
then
half
the
ball
fields
and
and
about
half
the
multi-purpose
fields,
and
we
try
to
get
that
done.
G
G
This
is
their
formula.
These
are
the
dollars
that
we
bring
into
the
city
overall,
so
people
that
spend
money
at
supermarkets,
gas
stations,
restaurants
per
year.
This
is
about
what
we
bring
in
and
in
10
years,
when
this
is
done,
we
should
double
that.
That's
that's!
Based
on
we
average
about
5
000
people
a
week
to
show
up
the
northwest
recreation
complex.
Now,
that
is
a
presentation.
What
do
you
guys
have
any
questions.
G
That
was
not
we
didn't.
Oh
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
tell
you
why
staff
did
not
recommend
the
skate
park
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
where
I
was
prepared
for
this
question.
Commissioner,
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
tell
you
where
my
philosophy
comes
from
and
where
I've
come,
because
I
didn't
recommend
the
skate
park.
Personally,
I
would
say
that
I'm
going
to
read
something
to
you.
This
is
from.
G
I
wish
I
brought
my
reading
glasses
with
me,
but
I'm
going
to
read
this
to
you,
and
this
is
just
anecdotal
evidence
of
things
that
I've
seen
over
the
years.
So
this
is
from
the
press
of
atlantic
city
and
it
says
skateboarders
see
their
parks.
Closing
and
officials
say
skaters
can
blame
themselves.
So
this
is
I.
This
is
just
brief.
G
All
the
skateboarders
had
to
do
is
walk
into
the
recreation
building
next
to
the
park
and
ask
an
employee
to
open
a
gate,
but
many
skaters
don't
do
that
because
they
don't
want
to
comply
with
the
city's
requirement
that
all
skaters
must
wear
protective
gear.
No
one
wants
to
wear
all
that
stuff.
One
of
the
15
year
old
said
it's
easier.
Just
to
sneak
in
the
city's
director
of
community
services
said.
G
The
park
is
usually
staffed
during
set
operating
hours,
to
make
sure
our
users
obey
all
rules,
but
when
it's
not
staffed,
vandalism
and
non-non-compliance
become
an
issue.
Malika
township
in
new
jersey
felt
it
made
more
fiscal
sense
to
dismantle
the
five-year-old
facility.
It
was
an
attractive
nuisance
that
was
a
source
of
a
lot
of
abuse
and
misuse.
Their
mayor
said
what
we
were
getting
was
kids
cutting
fences,
damaging
picnic
benches
and
garbage
cans
outside
of
the
skate
park,
as
well
as
damaging
the
pine
cone
zone
where
young
children
play.
G
We
have
video
of
them
going
off
roofs
gazebos
on
bikes,
bikes
weren't
allowed
in
the
skatepark.
The
mullica
township
police
department
was
regularly
called
to
its
recreation,
complex
for
complaints
of
vandalism
and
criminal
mischief.
Since
the
skatepark
was
removed,
there's
been
no
other
vandalism
in
the
park.
Stafford
township
dismantled
its
state-of-the-art
skate
park
after
was
only
open
for
eight
years.
It
added
security
cameras,
replaced
perimeter,
fencing
and
installed
a
gate
designed
to
keep
bicycles
out,
but
the
gate
was
soon
sawed
off
by
vandals
with
power
tools
and
the
park
was
closed.
G
A
few
months
later,
in
the
last
two
years,
the
stafford
township
skatepark
was
in
operation.
Police
responded
to
more
than
240
calls
in
the
vicinity
of
the
skatepark,
including
calls
involving
trespassing,
fighting
and
drug-related
arrests.
The
volume
and
severity
of
the
call
types
in
that
area
have
just
decreased
significantly,
since
the
park
was
dismantled,
lower
township
dismantled
its
skate
park
after
was
only
open
for
six
years,
citing
vandalism
and
misuse.
G
G
G
J
G
Did
and
this
this
the
reason
I
picked
this
article
is
because
this
was
the
most
comprehensive
and
there
are
other.
There
are
other
issues
throughout
the
country
where
it's
closed
for
a
few
months
here
or
there
or
there's
other
stuff
from
when
I
was
in
connecticut
that
I
know
the
skate
parks
were
were
pulled
out.
This
was
just
the
most
comprehensive
article
that
I
found
so.
G
G
L
G
D
G
So
in
this
area,
which
is
which
is
north
of
the
fire
station
like
this
is
this
is
big.
This
can
be
smaller
and
there'll,
be
air
there'll
be
land
in
here,
that's
available,
but
typically
and
I've
been
through
large-scale
projects
before,
and
this
again
is
initial
presentation
to
to
city
council
on
what
it's,
assuming
it's
funded,
what
it's
most
likely
to
look
like
in
10
years,
but
it's
very
normal
for
there
to
be
adjustments
made
over
the
course
of
time
for
for
different
reasons.
So
some
of
it
could
be
as
simple
as
is.
G
We
have
to
change
the
order
of
things
because
we
get
a
call
saying
your
old
lights
aren't
going
to
work
anymore
if
they
break
you
better
change
out
to
led
now
and
some
of
it's
because
the
community
really
comes
the
community
charges
in
here
and
says,
give
me
a
skate
park
and
we
say:
okay,
we'll
find
a
spot
for
a
skate
park
or
or
we
want
to.
We
want
to
do
an
area
with
putting
greens.
We
can
still
make
adjustments.
C
G
The
reason
the
reason
for
that
is
really
because
we
want
to
look
at
grant
funding
for
the
accessible
playground
and
in
order
to
in
order
to
qualify
for
the
grant
funding
we
have
to.
It
has
to
be
in
our
five-year
plan.
But
we
also,
we
also
can't
have
it
specifically
but
budgeted.
So
it
kind
of
has
to
be
in
our
plan,
but
not
being
done,
and
then
we
can
and
then
we
could
we're
in
better
shape
for
grant
funding
and.
C
D
G
N
C
N
G
C
Makes
sense
and
then
the
last
question
or
not
question,
but
it's
just
point
of
clarification.
The
one
slide
where
we
talk
about
the
economic
benefit,
we're
talking
about
the
economic
benefit
to
our
city,
not
necessarily
to
revenue
stream
into
the
city
of
apopka.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that,
because
I
don't
want
to
set
an
expectation
by
this
year.
We're
going
to
be
getting
sixteen
point.
Eight
million.
G
D
A
I
know
we
want
to
look
at
at
some
point.
We
were
in
discussions
with
a
baseball
group
that
wanted
to
come
in
and
build
some
fields
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
that
work.
It
just
ended
up,
not
working,
but
one
thing
we'd
like
to
do
is
go
back
to
visit
orlando
and
and
and
look
at
the
hotel,
the
bed
tax,
because
we've
never
received
a
nickel
from
the
bed
tax,
but
as
we
can,
we
we
have
to
show
the
county
that
we're
actually
putting
heads
in
beds
to
say.
A
Okay
now
we
deserve
some
of
those
dollars
back
because
we're
you
know
we're
putting
on
a
baseball
tournament.
We've
got
kids
from
you
know
all
over
the
southeast
coming
to
play,
they're
staying
in
our
hotels
in
apopka
and
we're
generating
those
those
little
those
hotel
taxes.
So
you
know
at
some
point:
we've
got
it:
we've
got
to
be
able
to
to
define.
We've
got
to
be
able
to
to
quantify.
A
A
B
P
L
B
B
G
A
Thank
you,
brian
all,
right
next
up,
I
guess
pam
richmond's
going
to
come
up
and
introduce
the
panel,
and
I
know
we've
got
a
they've
been
here
all
day.
We
told
them
they're
going
to
start
charging
them
rent
our
folks
from
metro
plan,
but,
ladies,
been
here
all
day.
You
know
they
were
met
with
me
this
morning
in
drc
and
then
they're
back
tonight.
Q
So
just
a
quick
reminder:
this
is
a
project.
That's
been
very
important
to
the
city.
For
the
last
few
years
we
started
out
on
our
own
looking
at
trying
to
fix
rock
springs.
Road
and
welch
y'all
have
encouraged
me
a
lot
and
when
we
realized
it
wasn't
just
our
issue
we
needed
to
reach
out
to
our
partners
at
orange
county.
We
did
that
and
they
agreed.
Q
It
was
a
problem
that
needed
to
be
resolved
and
we
took
that
about
as
far
as
we
could,
and
then
we
engaged
our
partners
at
metroplan
orlando,
to
pick
up
the
study
and
and
and
help
us
decide
how
we're
going
to
get
this
problem
at
the
intersection
fixed.
So
tonight,
my
our
partner
from
orange
county
brian
sanders
is
here
and
then
the
project
team.
Q
That's
doing
all
this
wonderful
work
for
us,
laura
may
bach
is
leading
the
effort
for
metro
plan,
she's
the
project
manager
and
then
her
consultant
project
manager
is
amy
sermons
and
also
with
this
from
metroplan
is
taylor.
Lauren
and
from
vhb
is
kennedy
summershell
sumnershell
and
I
think
I
just
tore
up
her
name
but
they're
going
to
give
us
an
update.
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress
on
the
project
and
we
wanted
to
give
you
all
an
update.
There'll,
be
a
public
meeting.
Q
R
Thank
you
so
much
pam,
as
pam
mentioned,
I'm
laura
balck,
I'm
the
project
manager
for
both
the
rock
springs
road
study
and
the
west
orange
trail
extension
study,
we're
doing
both
studies
concurrently
and
in
partnership
with
the
city
of
pop
city
of
apopka
and
orange
county
on
behalf
of
metroplane,
orlando
and
the
project
team.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention
tonight
we're
hoping
that
you'll
find
the
presentation
and
lightning,
and
we
look
forward
to
your
comments
and
questions
afterwards.
R
I'm
looking
forward
to
presenting
these
concepts
we've
been
working
on
the
last
few
months,
we'll
also
be
presenting
these
concepts
at
our
virtual
public
meeting
next
thursday.
There
will
be
some
more
information
about
that
meeting
towards
the
end
of
the
presentation
and
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
amy
sermons,
to
give
a
presentation.
S
S
S
So,
as
was
mentioned,
we
are
looking
at
both
the
rock
springs
road
study
and
the
west
orange
trail
study.
They
do
overlap,
so
it
made
sense
to
do
these.
At
the
same
time,
they
will
result
in
two
different
studies,
but
we'll
be
following
the
same
path
as
far
as
schedule
goes
as
far
as
where
we
are
in
the
typical
life
cycle
of
a
project.
Typically
there's
four
stages:
there's
planning
design,
right-of-way
acquisition
and
construction.
We
are
at
the
beginning
at
the
planning
phase.
This
is
where
we
gain
input.
S
S
So
I'm
going
to
walk
through
kind
of
high
level
the
improvements
along
the
corridor
and
then
I'll
get
a
little
bit
more
detail
as
we
move
forward
so
starting
at
the
intersection
with
the
rock
springs,
road
and
welch
road.
We
are
looking
at
adding
turn
lanes
and
traffic
control.
Separators
we'll
have
two
different
alternatives
that
I'll
show
you
next
moving
further
north
at
the
publix
north
entrance.
We're
looking
at
adding
a
new
signal
and
again
we
have
two
different
alternatives
for
that
option:
north
of
publix.
S
We
are
looking
at
the
option
for
a
new
mid-block
crossing
which
is
south
of
tanglewood
drive
and
then
at
the
northern
end
of
the
project.
We're
looking
at
some
minor
intersection
updates
at
leicester,
road
and
rock
springs
road
moving
down
back
south
of
the
project
at
sandpiper
street.
Again
we're
looking
at
realigning
sandpiper
street
and
adding
a
new
signal
at
park
avenue
and
then
also
the
sidewalks
along
sandpiper
street.
S
North
and
south,
so
getting
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
intersection
with
road
again
there's
two
different
alternatives:
we're
looking
at
here,
I'm
about
to
throw
a
lot
of
information
at
you,
so
I
apologize
I'll
try
to
go
slow
because
I
know
it's
a
lot
so
starting
with
alternative
one,
which
is
on
the
left
side
of
your
screen.
The
westbound
approach
has
a
single
left
turn
lane
two
through
lanes
and
dual
right
turn
lanes.
There
will
be
a
raised
traffic
separator
proposed
between
the
eastbound
and
westbound
travel
lanes
to
improve
safety.
S
The
eastbound
approach
consists
of
single
left
and
single
right
turn
lanes
two
through
lanes
and
a
raised
traffic
separator
between
the
eastbound
and
westbound
travel
lanes.
Looking
at
the
southbound
approach,
we'll
have
dual
left
turn
lanes.
A
traffic
separator
to
restrict
left
turns
in
and
out
of
the
public
south
entrance
and
a
new
traffic
separator
at
the
start
of
the
northbound
left
turn
lane.
S
Lastly,
at
the
northbound
approach,
we're
proposing
a
single
left
in
a
single
right
turn
lane
two
through
lanes
and
a
raised
traffic
separator
between
the
northbound
and
southbound
lanes.
Alternative
two
is
very
similar
to
alternative
one.
However,
it
does
not
include
the
dedicated
right
turn
lane
on
northbound
and
southbound.
S
Oh
I'm
supposed
to
be
clicking,
as
I
went
through,
that
I
apologize
okay
now
moving
up
to
the
public's
north
entrance
alternatives
alternative
one
and
two
again
alternative
one
is
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen
and
we
are
proposing
to
add
a
signal
at
the
intersection
of
the
north
entrance
and
rock
springs
road
in
alternative
one.
The
south
leg
of
the
intersection
features
a
dedicated
northbound
right
turn
lane
and
two
through
lanes
so
dedicated
right
turn
lane
into
the
public's
entrance.
S
S
The
north
leg
of
the
intersection
includes
a
southbound
left
turn
lane
and
two
through
lanes.
Alternative
two
is
very
similar
to
alternative.
One,
however,
does
not
include
the
dedicated
northbound
right
turn
lane
into
publix,
and
again
I
failed
the
clicking
the
next
improvement.
The
next
option
that
we're
looking
at
is
to
add
a
mid-block
crosswalk.
S
S
It
would
also
include
a
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacon,
which
is
also
known
as
an
rrfb,
to
be
installed
to
increase
safety
for
pedestrians.
The
discussion
this
morning
was
whether
or
not
this
would
be
needed
when
the.
If
the
signal
is
added
at
the
north
entrance
to
publix,
if
we
could
encourage
pedestrians
to
cross
at
the
publics-
and
some
of
the
discussion
was
also
about
potentially
putting
in
the
signal
at
publix
first
and
then
see
if
behaviors
are
changing
in
the
corridor
and
whether
or
not
a
mid-block
crossing
is
still.
S
S
So
now
I'm
going
to
walk
through
what
are
the
potential
impacts
of
each
of
these
updates
to
the
corridor
so
we're
back
now
at
the
welch
road
intersection
in
rock
springs
potential
impacts
associated
with
the
rock
springs.
Road
strategies
are
the
need
for
right-of-way
acquisition
and
impacts
to
existing
utilities.
There's
large
utility
poles
on
the
northwest
corner
at
the
welch
road
intersection
alternative
one
and
two
will
have
utility
impacts
and
right-of-way
requirements.
However,
alternative
two
requires
less
right-of-way
than
alternative
one.
S
S
At
sandpiper
street
and
park
avenue,
the
proposed
options
here
anticipate
again
the
utility
impacts.
There
are
several
utility
poles
that
would
need
to
be
relocated,
as
well
as
a
corner
clip
of
right-of-way
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
intersection
and
that's
needed
to
add
the
signal
pole
for
the
new
signalization.
S
So
one
of
the
things
we
do
in
the
study
to
figure
out
what
what's
happening
and
what
needs
to
be
done
in
the
future
is
to
look
at
the
existing
traffic
operations.
We
look
at
what's
called
a
target
level
of
service,
and
this
essentially
tells
you
the
operations
of
the
corridor.
So
what
is
assigned
for
this
for
the
study
corridor
is
what's
called
a
level
of
service
e,
so
the
existing
traffic
analysis
shows
that
the
welch
road
at
rock
springs
road
intersection
in
both
the
am
and
pm.
S
While
the
intersection
at
rock
springs.
Road
and
welch
road
are
projected
to
operate
the
same
level
of
services
existing.
It
is
expected
to
experience
much
higher
delays
in
the
future
year
of
2045,
with
no
with
no
updates,
so
the
next
step
in
the
process
to
look
at
that
2045
projection
with
the
different
alternatives
applied
within
the
model,
so
utilizing
that
projected
traffic.
The
study
team
compare
compared
that
no
build
that
we
just
talked
about
with
the
different
alternatives
for
alternative
one
and
two
for
alternative
one,
which
is
on
the
screen.
S
Looking
at
alternative
two
build
conditions
results
in
operations
also
within
the
target
level
of
service
e.
There
is
a
reduced
overall
delay
at
the
weltrode
intersection
by
74
and
by
72
percent
from
existing
delays
in
alternative
two.
The
weltrod
intersection
operates
sufficiently
but
has
more
failing
movements
than
alternative
one.
S
C
Real
quick
question
before
you
do
that
on
the
first
slide,
you
talked
about
the
phasing
of
these
efforts,
so
I
have
the
right
lens
on
when
you're
describing
this.
So
you
said
that
we're
still
early
stages
of
planning
walk
me
through
the
timeline
of
how
long
it
typically
takes
to
get
through
each
one
of
these
phases.
S
S
As
you
can
see,
most
of
these
alternatives
require
some
right-of-way
acquisition
and
then
construction,
but
really,
I
think
it's
going
to
depend
on
funding
and
I'm
going
to
look
back
at
laura
and
brian
on
that,
because
if,
if
the
funding
falls
into
place
when
it's
needed,
I
think
maybe
we'd
be
looking
at.
I
hate
to
throw
these
numbers
out
there.
T
C
R
Yeah
you're
fine.
This
is
a
good
time
for
this
question
yeah.
I
can't
answer
that
with
a
for
sure
answer,
but
yeah,
I
think
amy's
right
on
track.
It
would
be
about
two
years
to
get
through
the
design
piece
of
things
and
then
it
just
really
depends
on
when
we're
able
to
to
get
funding
for
the
project.
But
this
is
a
critical
piece
for
that.
B
B
I'm
concerned
that
the
loading
lane
for
the
right
turn
only
on
the
westbound
for
sandpiper
is
too
short,
because
I've
observed
that
backed
up
quite
a
bit
further
on
there.
So
I'd
like
for
that
to
be
considered,
especially
since
we're
shifting
that
room
is
already
there
on
that
right
side,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
be
way
too
short.
So
you'll
have
people
there.
You'll
have
some
going
around
in
the
oncoming
traffic
to
get
up
to
the
left,
turn
lane
or
the
straight
lane.
I
think
so.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
D
Q
B
S
B
B
C
I
was
going
to
table
my
questions
until
the
end,
or
would
you
prefer
them
here
so
so
with
the
options
for
the
additional
turn
lanes
and
the
stuff
that's
directly
on
that
intersection
of
welch
and
rock
springs?
Obviously,
we've
got
some
development.
That's
going
to
be
occurring
on
the
northwest
section
of
that
property
and
obviously
with
this
being
in
planning
phases,
but
that
would
probably
have
a
much
more
aggressive
development
cycle.
S
S
C
It
sounds
like
it's
going
to
kind
of
buck
the
the
phasing
cycle
that
you
all
have
right,
you're,
going
to
go
from
planning
to
development
pretty
quickly
on
these
intersections.
I'm
I'm
not
communicating
clearly
so
the
northwest
section
that,
where
it
says,
proposed
development,
I'm
just
taking
a
guess
here.
I
don't
know
the
timeline
of
it.
C
Let's
just
say
that
it's
going
to
be
developed
within
the
next
year
and
yet
you're
in
planing
phase
of
this
project
planning
to
actual
design
to
actual
acceptance
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
at
this
intersection
may
be
a
typically
a
longer
time
horizon
than
say.
This
proposed
development
correct
so
which
ones
went
out
and
are
you?
Are
you
working
within
their
schedule?
Are
you
having?
Are
they
having
to
work
within
metro
plan
schedule.
S
Well
then,
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
here
I
mean
they're
they're,
working
with
the
city
of
apopka
on
their
whole
plan
and
they
they've
again
is
12
feet,
they're,
allowing
12
feet
or
giving
12
feet
over
to
work
with
this
project,
so
essentially
we're
assuming
that
their
proposed
development
is
kind
of
our
existing
condition,
and
this
happens
a
lot
during
planning
studies.
We
have
developments
come
in
during
the
study,
and
so
we
are
working
with.
You
know
an
iterative
iterative
approach.
You
know
if
they
change
their
concept.
We
will.
C
Q
Yes
and
no,
I
I
like
to
think
that
we
have
coordinated
well
enough
with
them
and
orange
county
orange
county.
The
engineering
group
has
they.
They
are
on
board
with
the
study
and
they
approved
access
on
rock
springs
road
thinking
forward
about
this
study.
So
I
don't
think
that
they're
gonna
their
access
is,
is
that's
what
it's
gonna
be,
because
once
we
put
that
barrier
in
they're
no
longer
gonna
be
you're,
not
gonna,
be
able
to
come
out
and
go
north.
C
Yeah,
so,
okay,
okay
and
then
the
intersection
by
publix.
Obviously,
it's
incongruent
with
the
dollar
general
ingress,
egress
and
you're.
Solving
that
problem
by
structure
in
the
median
I
see
are
you:
are
we
going
to
kind
of
force,
interconnectivity
on
that
side
of
rock
springs?
Intra
development,
meaning
dollar
store,
will
be
connected
to
whatever
goes
in.
The
next
place
is
connected
to
the
south,
which
is
connected
to
the
south,
so
that
you
have
a
free
flow
of
traffic
that
way.
Okay,.
S
A
A
U
That
will
work
so
in
terms
of
funding
these
projects,
we're
looking
at
cycling
these
through
the
metro
plan,
priorities
list
where
we'll
need
to
chunk
a
number
of
smaller
projects
together
to
meet
the
funding
limits.
That
metro
plan
has
so
I
believe
it's
4
million
dollars
per
project
that
we
can
fund
through
metro
plan.
U
U
D
R
J
There
is
no
crosswalk
and
when
you're
in
the
middle
of
it,
you
know
the
pedestrians
just
cross
over,
and
we
also
have
a
little
subdivision
there.
That
does
not
have
a
light.
It's
what
kind
of
townhouse
is
there?
Have
you
seen
that?
Yes,
they
also,
I
mean
we
just
have
they
just
kind
of
race
out
of
their
subdivision,
whenever
there's
a
little
break,
making
a
left
even
a
right,
they
just
it's
not
safe
for
them.
K
S
It's
not
going
to
be
closed
off,
but
it's
only
going
to
be
a
right
in
so
if
you're
heading
northbound
on
rock
springs,
you
could
still
take
a
ride
in
and
if
you're
heading
out
of
that
south
publix
exit,
you
can
only
take
a
right.
So
it's
going
to
avoid
people
trying
to
cross
over
coming
out
of
the
south
and
trying
to
go
southbound
on
rock
springs.
Okay,.
S
K
S
S
Too
far,
okay,
so
west
orange
trail
extension.
The
purpose
here
is
to
look
at
options
for
connecting
the
existing
west
orange
trail,
where
it
ends
currently
at
leicester,
up
to
the
proposed
wekiva
trail
up
at
kelly
park.
Road
we're
also
looking
at
spurs
to
connect
over
to
the
wekiva
river
blueway
trail
or
the
state
park
entrance
and
looking
at
a
spur
to
connect
over
to
wolf
lake
elementary
and
middle
schools,
as
well
as
the
city's
northwest
recreation
complex,
and
it's
proposed
new
improvements.
S
So
this
is
an
overview
of
the
different
alternatives
and
that
we
are
looking
at
you
can
see.
The
the
solid
lines
are
the
main
alternatives
that
came
out
of
the
orange
county
trail
master
plan.
Some
of
the
dashed
lines
which
I'll
get
to
in
a
minute
are
alternatives
for
each
of
those
different
trail
alignments
and
spurs.
S
S
Moving
up
to
the
pumpkin
road
alignments,
this
runs
along
pumpkin
road
to
connect
to
wolf
lake
elementary
and
middle
schools,
as
well
as
the
recreation
complex.
There
is
also
an
alternative
alignment
that
we
are
looking
at
utilizing
the
existing
bike
trail
on
leicester,
road
and
vic
road.
That's
the
dashed
line.
You
see
on
the
graphic.
S
S
So
the
potential
impacts
of
each
of
these
alignments
and
related
to
right-of-way
for
the
rock
springs
road
on-road
trail
may
require
additional
right-of-way.
That's
for
the
if
it
remains
along
rock
springs
road
and
then
the
trail
within
the
park
will
require
additional
coordination
with
and
approval
from
the
park.
If
we
were
to
use
those
alternatives,
the
welch
road
spur
will
require
additional
right-of-way
and
may
require
some
roadway
modifications
in
some
areas
to
accommodate
the
trail.
It's
very
tight
right
away
through
the
welch
road
section
on
the
pumpkin
road
spur.
S
S
So
now
this
this
study
schedule
and
again
this
is
for
both
projects
for
the
trail
and
the
rock
springs
road
projects.
We
began
these
studies
in
the
early
in
the
early
spring
of
last
year.
We
expect
to
be
completed
by
the
end
of
this
year,
end
of
2022,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
our
first
public
meeting
will
be
next
thursday.
S
S
So
a
little
more
detail
on
our
meeting
for
next
week.
It's
scheduled
again
for
january
27th,
which
is
thursday
at
6
pm.
It
is
a
virtual
meeting
you
may
register
on
the
study's
website
at
metroplanorlando.org
rock
springs.
There
will
be
a
virtual
meeting.
Room
and
recording
of
a
live
meeting
will
be
open
through
february
28th.
S
S
A
M
A
D
A
N
Mayor
city
council,
if
you
recall
it's
been
some
some
time
now,
since
we've
been
talking
about
the
water
wastewater,
reclaimed,
water
rate
study,
so
we
have
an
update
the
the
consultant
is
here
and
there
they
want
to
give
you
an
update
kind
of
a
high
level
update
of
where
they
are
what
they,
where
why
we're?
Where
we
are,
what
they've
done.
N
We
also
have
water
office
of
america.
If
you
remember,
we
put
them
under
contract
to
find
to
do
a
billing
audit
of
our
utility
to
make
sure
that
we
had
all
everyone
was
being
billed
correctly.
Everybody
was
being
built
appropriately,
and
so
they
are
here
too.
They
have
a
little
portion
of
the
presentation
to
show
you
the
what
revenues
they
were
able
to
locate,
or
they
were
able
to
find
so
with
that.
This
again
is
a
is
a
high
level
presentation,
they'll
give
you
they
have.
N
You
know
they
can
answer
the
questions
and
everything
as
well,
but
they
it's
important.
I
think
that
you
see
where
we
are
in
that
you
know
with
cove
and
everything
it's
been
then
they'll
show
you
a
lot
of
the
the
stuff
that
they've
that
we,
what
we've
been
dealing
with
and
where
we
are,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
you
have
an
update
so
that
you
know
where
we
are
coming
in
the
future
here
when
it
comes
to
the
utility
rates,
the
the
for
the
water,
the
sewer
and
the
reclaimed
water.
N
W
Two
we
work
with
literally
hundreds
of
municipal
county
and
districts
in
florida
and
the
southeastern
united
states
and
reftalis
is
a
national
based
firm
that
works
throughout
the
country.
So
we
bring
you
that
perspective
of
what's
going
on
in
the
industry
and
finally,
we
we
offer
you
an
independent
assessment
of
your
utility
rate
needs
as
well
as
in
the
past,
we've
helped.
You
do
capital
funding
studies
that
are
utilized
by
your
lenders
to
evaluate
the
feasibility
of
the
issuance
of
debt
and
how
that's
going
to
be
repaid.
W
W
You've
got
some
really
robust
plans
and,
as
I
told
the
the
commission,
when
we
did
that
study
anecdotally,
I
think
that
those
kinds
of
investments,
particularly
in
recreation,
really
differentiate
a
community
and
make
it
a
place
where
people
are
a
desire
to
come
and
live.
I
live
just
up
the
road
here
at
the
corner
of
welch
and
thompson,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
your
sports
arena.
I'm
thrilled
that
you're
going
to
be
having
an
international
jazz
festival
next
month,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
a
it's
it's
a
great
program.
W
My
client,
panama
city
beach,
brings
in
untold
amounts
of
money
from
outside
the
city,
because
they've
got
a
great
sports
complex
and
they
do
tournaments
and
they
attract
teams
from
all
over
the
southeast.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
some
of
that
coming
here
and
help
the
city.
That
being
said,
I'm
going
to
let
sean
go
through
the
presentation.
W
L
I'm
often
accused
of
speaking
too
softly.
So
please,
let
me
know
if
you
can't
hear
me
so,
as
henry
mentioned,
my
name
is
sean
ocasio
and
I'm
the
project
manager
on
this
particular
engagement
with
the
city
of
apopka,
and
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about
this
evening
is
just
a
status
update,
as
was
mentioned
on
the
utility
rate
study
in
our
progress,
so
essentially
we're
going
to
be
covering
just
a
little
bit
of
background.
L
L
L
So,
as
you
might
imagine,
we've
experienced
a
couple
of
delays
mainly
associated
with
the
impacts
of
covet
19,
and
you
know,
coordination
issues
and
things
of
that
nature.
Resulting
of
that,
but
also
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
the
results
of
the
water
billing
audit
that
that
edward
benson
just
a
moment
ago,
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
our
financial
forecast
had
any
potential
benefits
and
all
financial
benefits
associated
with
it
accounted
for
in
our
forecast
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
overstate
any
potential
rate
needs.
L
L
So
as
a
part
of
our
analysis.
Well,
we
looked
through.
We
evaluated
our
historical
operating
expenses
and
trends
and
and
recent
data
we
then
project
revenues
and
revenue
requirements
using
data
provided
by
the
city
from
there.
We
also
helped
develop
a
capital
funding
strategy
for
that
window
of
time,
2022
through
2026
to
make
sure
that
we're
trying
to
balance
out.
You
know
what
capital
projects
are
funded
through.
L
You
know
potential
issuance
of
debt
funded
from
rates
and
reserves,
impact
fees
grants
things
of
that
nature,
and
then,
in
doing
so,
we
then
also
try
to
make
sure
that
we
evaluate
financial,
metrics
and
performance
metrics.
You
know
cash
reserve
requirements
to
make
sure
that
the
utility
system
maintains
a
healthy
liquidity,
as
well
as
other
required
items
from
the
city's
bond
resolution
and
loan
covenants
and
then
in
in
looking
at
all
those
things
we
try
to
determine
the
adequacy
of
of
the
existing
rates.
L
Some
additional
goals
and
considerations,
one
of
the
things
we
try
to
do
in
in
conducting
these
studies
is
to
the
extent
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
using
existing
reserve
balances
for
the
for
the
system
in
order
to
phase
in
a
potential
future
rate.
Adjustments
to
the
extent
possible
so
to
the
extent
that
we
have
any
I'll
call
it
additional
cash
on
hand
that
we
can
phase
in
some
of
these
impacts.
L
This
way
we
can
mitigate
certain
impacts
to
the
customers,
so
we
try
to
manage
that,
while
still
maintaining
the
liquidity
items
that
I
mentioned
a
moment
ago,
and
then
additionally,
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that,
in
our
forecast
that
the
rates
are
generating
net
revenues
that
are
able
to
comply
with
the
the
debt
service
agreements
that
the
department
has
the
ones
that
you
see
mention
here:
senior
lean,
subordinate
lien.
Those
are
based
on
loans
that
the
the
department
currently
has
outstanding.
I
believe,
there's
the
2012
bonds.
That
would
be
a
senior
lean
obligation.
L
L
So,
with
respect
to
some
some
of
the
high
level
assumptions,
currently,
the
water
and
sewer
and
reclaim
system
provide
service
to
about
24
000
water
accounts,
approximately
19
000
wastewater
accounts
and
about
9
000
reclaimed.
Water
accounts,
as
of
the
close
of
2021,
and
that's
a
rounded
figure
for
the
purposes
of
our
projections.
We
looked
at
historical
trends
in
growth,
as
well
as
additional
information
provided
by
the
city
with
for
future
growth
and
development
and
we're
projecting
a
customer
growth
of
approximately
between
two
to
three
and
a
half
percent
per
year.
L
Depending
on
the
system.
I
would
note
that
that
growth
is
a
little
more
front-end
loaded,
that
sort
of
tapers
towards
the
end
towards
that
2026
window.
So
we're
trying
to
account
for
the
the
latest
information
that
we
have
and
then
taper
it
a
little
more
conservatively
over
time
for
the
revenues
of
the
system
that
we
used.
As
in
our
projections
combined
system
revenues
at
existing
rates
are
about
20.1
million
dollars
in
2022,
that's
budgeted
and
increasing
to
approximately
just
under
22
million
about
20
21.7
million
dollars
by
2026.
L
L
In
addition
to
the
rate
revenues,
we
also
look
at
other
revenues.
This
would
be
miscellaneous
fees.
You
know
late
charges,
meter,
set
fees,
tap
fees,
things
of
that
nature,
interest
income,
and
that
comes
in
at
about
1.4
million
dollars
a
year
in
our
forecast
projected
impact
fee
revenues
for
water
impact
fees,
wastewater
impact
fees
and
reclaim
are
approximately
about
4.5
million
per
year.
L
So
that's
about
an
average
annual
increase
about
three
and
a
half
percent
a
year
which
is
about
in
line
with
what
we
see
in
other
municipalities
for
for
utility
systems.
I
would
note
in
that
increase
there
are
no
new
ftes
accounted
for
in
in
that.
So
this
is
staffing
at
existing
funded
levels
over
that
window
of
time
in
terms
of
existing
annual
debt
service
payments,
there's
about
five
million
dollars
a
year
that
the
utility
system
pays
on
its
obligations.
L
That's
broken
out
again
between
the
the
senior
lien
bonds
and
the
two
srf
loans
that
are
currently
being
paid
on
and
then
another
thing
that
does
an
outflow
of
the
system
would
be
general
fund
transfers
in
our
forecast.
They're
projected
at
about
3.2
million
in
fiscal
year,
2022
increasing
to
about
3.9
million
by
fiscal
year
2026..
L
So
that's
about
an
increase
of
about
five
percent
a
year.
The
reason
I
we
have
this
one
highlighted
is:
there's
something
a
couple
things
we
just
wanted
to
note
about
that.
One,
real
quick
and
what
I
would
note
is
so
that
those
particular
transfers
are
over
and
above
the
transfer
to
the
general
fund
for
indirect
costs,
so
the
indirect
cost.
Being
you
know,
reimbursement
for
services
provided
to
the
utility
by
by
the
general
fund,
whether
it's
you
know,
hr,
I.t
finance,
the
commission
etc.
L
So
these
are
transfers
over
and
above
those
allocation
amounts
to
go
towards
offsetting
revenue
needs
of
the
the
general
fund.
One
thing,
we'd,
also
think
is
important
to
note
about
this
item.
Is
that
presently
at
the
state
level
there's
a
bill?
That's
that's!
I
it
hasn't
passed
yet,
but
it's
going
through
the
process
that
would
essentially,
if
a
municipality
transfers
money
to
its
general
fund
from
the
utility
fund,
then
I
believe
it
it
eliminates
eligibility
for
for
grant
funding.
L
A
D
W
Operating
expenses
legit,
I'm
sorry
legitimate
operating
expenses
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
and
it's
a
common
practice
throughout
florida
you
have
general
fund
transfers
and
in
the
past,
you've
referred
to
them
as
payment
lieu
of
taxes,
payment
little
franchise
fees,
but
in
a
effect,
it's
money
that
the
utility
system
provides
to
the
general
fund.
That
is
a
adder
to
the
to
the
revenue
requirements
of
the
system.
So
what
the
legislature's
legislation
is
looking
at.
W
You
know
many
of
my
clients
here
in
florida,
with
the
homestead
exemptions,
find
that
quite
a
few
properties
don't
pay
property
taxes
and
the
only
way
they
can
really
make
government
affordable
is
make
sure
everybody
contributes
to
using
some
utility
enterprise
fund
transfers
and
apparently
that's
you
know,
caught
the
eye
of
the
folks
in
tallahassee
and
they're
now
trying
to
to
deal
with
that.
I
hope
our
lobbyists
are
vigorously
opposing
this,
because
it
would
be
really
a
difficult
situation
for
all
the
governments
throughout
florida
if
this
law
passes
local
governments.
W
L
L
The
the
proposed
debt
that
I
just
mentioned-
that's
17.4
million
in
projects
after
ishmael's
cost
is,
is
roughly
assumed
to
be
an
additional
719
000
in
debt,
increasing
to
about
1.2
million
by
fiscal
year,
2027
just
outside
our
window.
So
there's
two
debts
encompassed
in
that
17
million,
the
first
of
which
payment
comes
online
in
fiscal
year
2025
and
the
second
in
2027.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
accounted
for
both
of
those
separately.
So
that's
by
the
end.
L
So
one
thing
we
wanted
to
also
mention-
and
it
relates
to
the
capital
plan
we
were
just
talking
about-
is
there-
are
increases
in
r
related
expenditures
when
compared
to
historical
levels,
mainly
in
in
three
major
categories
related
to
meter.
Replacements
lines.
Excuse
me,
lift
station,
rehabilitations
and
water
and
sewer
line
replacements
and
with
the
meter
replacements.
L
Essentially,
what
what
the
system
is
trying
to
do
is
be
much
more
proactive
in
its
approach
to
meter
replacements
to
ensure
that
there's,
you
know
accurate
billing,
and
you
know
just
that.
There's
the
the
revenue
benefit
associated
with
that.
So
there
is
more
funding
for
meter
replacements
than
there
has
been
historically
and
then
with
respect
to
lift
station
rehabilitations
and
water
and
sewer
line
replacements
with
those.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
provide
a
with
assistance.
L
So,
as
a
part
of
our
analysis,
I
mentioned
earlier
we're
trying
to
to
capture
you
know
recent
city
efforts
to
reduce
costs
and
increase
revenues
mentioned
a
moment
ago,
the
the
billing
audit,
the
water
billing
audit.
So
if
we
want
here,
mr
bass,
I
believe
another
representative,
yeah
and
they'll
be
able
to
speak
to
to
that
analysis
and
the
benefits
thereof.
X
X
We
also
have
the
side
effect
of
promoting
accountability
and
rate
payer
equity
city
personnel.
Mr
bass,
in
his
billing
department,
has
been
very
helpful
in
supporting
our
our
work
since
day
one
I
prepared
some
brief,
very
brief
numbers
kind
of
like,
as
edward
said
at
the
beginning,
mr
bass.
He
top
level
numbers.
X
X
Of
those
98
were
misbuild
accounts,
it's
usually,
you
know.
Incorrect
unit
counts
were
a
big
98
of
that
number
was
mis-build.
Units
unit
counts
on
apartment
complexes
and
things
like
that
they're
supposed
to
get
a
charge
per
per
dwelling
unit
and
other
conditions,
unbilled
accounts
and
physical
conditions
were
very
low
about
one
and
a
half
percent
which
attests
to
the
city's.
You
know
capabilities
of
being
on
the
ball
with
those
things
you
know
they
don't
let
you
know
unbuilt
accounts
or
broken
meters.
X
Y
L
L
So
this
first
graphic
here
it's
a
little
busy
and
I'll
walk
through
it.
Essentially
it's
it's.
The
the
revenue
requirements
and
revenues
of
the
water
system
in
particular.
Here
the
bar
component
of
the
graphic
represents
cash
outflows,
whereas
the
dotted
line
going
across
represents
the
revenues
of
the
system,
so
where
you
see
instance
of
the
the
the
bar
component
in
excess
of
the
the
dotted
line,
that's
essentially
showing
the
expenditures
being
higher
than
the
projected
revenues,
and
so
you'll
see
the
the
by
the
the
color
indicators.
L
The
red
component
be
operating
expenditures,
the
orange
would
be
debt
service,
the
yellow
would
be
the
general
fund.
Transfers
blue
would
be
capital
funded
from
rates,
and
so,
as
you
can
see
on
this
graphic,
the
based
on
the
the
projections
that
we
have
for
expenditures
and
the
revenues
at
existing
rates
for
the
system,
the
water
system
looks
to
be
deficient
over
time.
L
Then,
similarly,
for
the
wastewater
system,
same
graphic,
same
exact
composition,
we're
also
seeing
that
the
existing
rate
revenues
don't
appear
to
be
sufficient
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
system,
as
well
as
for
the
the
reclaimed
water
system
as
well,
though
not
not
so
nearly
pronounced.
As
what
we
just
saw
on
the
prior
chart.
L
So
so,
with
that
in
mind,
you
know
kind
of
the
major
issues
that
are
affecting
the
rates.
There's
a
few
different
things
for
one.
There
hasn't
been
a
rate
increase
since
2020,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
increase
there,
that
we've
missed
out
on
that
would
have.
You
know,
reduced
what
we're
seeing
going
forward.
L
Additionally,
the
the
with
respect
to
the
wastewater
plant
debt,
the
the
debt
that
the
system
currently
has
on
the
books
for
for
the
wastewater
system,
includes
about
15
million
in
improvements
that
are
are
presently
not
in
use.
These
were
this.
These
loans
were
approved
back
in
march
of
2017
and
included
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
project
for
approximately
62
million
dollars
in
project
costs.
L
The
other
thing
is
other
things
that
are
impacting
rates
would
be.
You
know,
inflationary
increases
just
to
operating
expenses
as
a
whole.
The
future
increases
in
annual
debt
service
payments
associated
with
funding
the
capital
plan,
the
significant
increase
in
renewal
and
replacement
related
expenditures
that
we
talked
about
a
moment
ago.
That
would
be
the
the
meter
replacements,
the
lift
station
rehabilitations
and
the
line
replacements,
as
well
as
projected
increases
to
the
general
fund,
the
type
of
transfer
that
henry
just
mentioned
a
moment.
L
Ago,
so,
with
respect
to
preliminary
results,
now
that
we're
kind
of
through
the
the
assumption
component,
at
least
what
we're
observing
preliminarily,
would
be
increases
to
the
water
and
reclaimed
water
systems
of
approximately
three
and
a
half
percent
per
year.
It's
roughly
inflationary
in
nature
and
then
for
the
wastewater
system,
little
more
than
that
at
about
13
and
a
half
percent
a
year
for
fiscal
years,
2023
through
2026.
L
L
So
with
with
those
rate
adjustments
in
mind,
if
we,
if
we
took
those
three
charts
that
we
looked
at
a
moment
ago
and
stacked
them
together,
this
would
be
the
combined
revenue
requirements
for
the
combined
system
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
the
black
dotted
line
represents
the
revenues
at
existing
rates
and
the
blue
dotted
line
would
represent
the
rates
with
those
proposed.
Preliminary
adjustments
accounted
for
with
them
and
as
you'll
see
by
the
end,
the
the
utility
system
would
be
sufficient
on
a
cash
flow
basis.
L
So
one
of
the
things
we
did
is
we
when,
when
looking
at
the
system's
billing
data
and
looking
at
you
know
average
bills
and
revenue
per
accounts
and
things
of
that
nature,
one
of
the
things
we
found
was
that
it
appears
that
when
we
compare
the
cost
by
class,
it
would
seem
that
for
the
commercial
class
that
they
may
not
be
paying
their
share
their
cost
of
service
relative
to
residential
customers.
So
some
potential
rate
adjust
structure.
L
Adjustments
that
that
could
be
made
that
we
can
look
into
in
nr
would
be
the
institution
of
potential
base
charges
that
increase
by
meter
size
for
for
commercial
accounts
for
wastewater,
and
that
might
help
true
up
some
of
those
differentials
and
also
potentially
mitigate
some
of
the
the
of
that
large
increase
to
wastewater
to
the
reclaimed,
customers
and
shift
it
a
little
to
the
commercial.
In
order
to
balance
out
that
inequity.
L
With
respect
to
our
next
steps
moving
forward,
another
part
of
our
engagement
is
a
miscellaneous
service
charge
analysis
that
we're
currently
working
on
and
we're
going
to
be
finalizing
soon,
we'll
be
bringing
that
for
you,
as
well
as
our
impact
fee
analysis
or
connection
fees
that
we're
also
looking
at
for
the
city
as
well.
We'll
also
be
fine-tuning
these
revenue
requirements
here
again,
because
this
was
a
preliminary
review,
so
we'll
be
fine-tuning.
C
C
What's
the
proxy,
you
know
and
I'll
give
you
an
example
right
so
for
our
unreserved
general
fund,
you
know
it's
16.67,
that's
two
months
worth
of
general
fund
operating
expense.
Is
there
a
certain
percentage
of
liquidity
for
our
cash
reserves
and
in
those
funds
that
is
recommended?
Where
do
we
stand
there.
L
Sure,
generally,
we
see
in
in
an
operating
fund
about
maybe
120
days
of
revenues,
but
oftentimes
in
those
systems
there's
also
a
corresponding
renewal
replacement
fund
as
well.
That
also
maintains
a
balance
generally
equivalent
to
maybe
a
year's
worth
of
depreciation
of
assets,
so
in
the
city
of
apopka's
case
instead
of
having
those
two
differentiating
funds,
it's
it's
commingled
into
one.
So
in
this
case
the
the
target
for
operating
reserves
would
be
about
180
days
and
that's
about
the
metric
that
we're
using
to
account
for
contingency
and
operating
expenses.
C
Gotcha,
okay,
thank
you
and
then
actually
go
forward.
It's
where
you
talk
about
customer
account
growth,
so
this
customer
account
growth
number.
I
just
want
to
calibrate
what
you're
talking
about
here.
Does
this
factor
in
new
clients
coming
on
to
the
system,
or
is
this
the
anticipated
growth
of
revenue
that
we're
going
to
receive
from
customers
in
the
system?
Today.
C
On
the
next
slide,
where
you
talk
about
expenses,
increasing
three
and
a
half
percent,
you
know,
obviously,
that
that
substantiates
your
slide,
where
you
have
the
graph
showing
that
it's
not
sustainable
right,
but
is
there
any
opportunity
for
economy
to
scale
on
the
expense
side,
meaning
this
would
have
you
suggest
that
all
of
the
ones
that
come
on
we're
going
to
increase
revenues
by
three
and
a
half
percent?
And
it's
a
direct
line
to
three
and
a
half
percent
worth
of
expense?
C
L
W
And
and
other
day-to-day
operating
costs,
we
are
compared
to
recent
historical
levels,
showing
an
increase
in
the
capital
spending
for
maintaining
assets
extending
their
life.
So
the
number
that's
beneficial
is
debt
service
costs
and
such
as
you
grow
you're,
spreading
that
over
additional
customers,
which
lowers
the
per
unit
contribution.
W
However,
because
of
the
size
of
the
capital
plan
and
some
of
the
major
projects,
we've
assumed
two
srf
loans
in
the
future,
for
you
help
mitigate
current
rates,
so
the
debt's
actually
growing
as
well.
So
this
this
model
that
we've
developed
for
you
takes
into
account
all
those
interactions
simultaneously.
C
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
I
almost
heard
like
an
is
comment
versus
proposed.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
heard
it
correctly
so
on
that
front,
on
the
capital
improvement
plan,
where
it
says
62
of
the
75
funded
by
grants,
is
that
projection
or
do
we
have
a
line
of
sight
and
that's
guaranteed,
grant
money.
W
C
D
K
I
guess
my
question
is
in
reference
to
the
increase
that
you're
showing
the
3.5
percent,
the
13.5
in
reference
to
the
water
system
and
wastewater,
and
then
you
said
in
your
observations
that
the
commercial
class
is
not
paying
their
cost
of
service
relative
to
the
residential
customers.
So
will
that
same
percentage
be
across
the
board
for
both
residential
and
commercial?
Since
you
say,
the
commercial
is
not
paying
currently.
W
Not
only
does
your
when
we
look
at
your
average
cost
to
the
system,
your
commercial
customers
don't
even
pay
the
full,
the
average
cost
of
the
system.
So
we
believe
right
now
that
residential
rates
are
subsidizing
commercial
and
that
really
shows
up
when
we
compare
you
to
other
systems,
so
we're
going
to
come
back
with
some
alternatives
that
would
recommend
increasing
the
commercial
rates
which
would
result
in
lower
increases
to
residential
relative
to
that
13
and
a
half
percent.
W
We're
still
studying
that
issue
at
the
moment
make
sure
we
have
the
appropriate
data
to
do
it.
But
you
know
this
is
a
legacy
mount
dora.
Does
it
you,
you
charge
a
base
charge
per
customer,
but
the
the
best
practice
in
the
industry
today
is,
as
that
meter
size
gets
bigger.
That
customer
pays
a
bigger
minimum
bill
each
month
so
that
monthly
base
charge
rises
for
larger
customers
relative
to
small
commercial
customers.
Of
course,
residential
are
all
pretty
much
the
same
meter
size.
W
So
it's
not
an
issue
there,
but
because
you're
charging
a
single
base
charge
for
all
size
customers.
When
you
look
at
the
comparison
and
you
look
at
them
compared
to
residential,
we
believe
that
that's
something
that
we
can.
We
need.
It
needs
to
be
fixed,
fixed
for
equity
purposes,
but
it
will
also
mitigate
some
of
the
impact
of
sewer
increases
to
to
the
residents.
B
Yeah,
the
challenge
is,
you
can't
set
a
percentage
based
growth
program
because
there's
inflationary
growth,
so
the
bottom
line
is
our
expenses
are
going
to
increase
because
of
inflation.
So
you
know
it's
like
what
point
do
we
reach
that
tipping
point
I
like
to
find
that
percentage
growth?
We
can
say
this
much
percentage
ought
to
go
and
it
just
grows
inversely
with
the
the
increased
customer
base.
B
W
W
But
I
will
say
too,
when
you
look
at
that
rate
comparison
and
you
look
at
the
position
you're
in
today,
you're
one
of
the
lowest
cost
system,
you're
one
of
the
lowest
price
systems
in
the
in
the
area-
and
you
know
my
experience-
is
it's
very
difficult
to
maintain
your
position
as
the
low-cost
provider
and
still
provide
quality
and
reliable
service.
So
some
of
that
investment
in
your
assets
is
what's
driving
the
cost
up.
W
But
when
you
compare
yourself
to
other
communities,
even
with
five
years
of
rate
increases,
as
you
can
see
on
that
chart,
you're
still
right
at
the
average
that
others
are
charging
so
you've
been
while
you,
you
know,
we
could
have
raised
rates
in
21.
That
would
have
helped
because
it's
a
path
so
every
year
I'd
like
to
see
you
do
some
increase
every
year.
If
you
can-
and
you
know-
we'd
like
it
to
be
modest,
but
so
we're
playing
a
little
ketchup
and
wastewater.
W
Hopefully,
once
we
get
that
corrected,
the
things
should
work
a
lot
better
and
again,
when
we
look
at
this
growth,
you
know
I,
since
I
know
the
area
pretty
well,
there's
a
lot
of
potential
out
there
and
maybe
we
haven't
captured
it
all,
but
I'm
trying
to
be
a
little
conservative.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
these
things
sustain
themselves
and
if
you
know,
if
we,
if
we
see
a
lot
of
growth,
we
can
always
come
back
and
look
at
that
benefit
and
revise
this
downward
a
little
bit.
W
We
have-
and
we
are
doing
some
of
that,
if
you
noticed
in
the
first
years
of
the
first
year
in
particular,
the
costs
way
exceed
the
revenues.
Well,
how
are
we
doing
that
we're
using
reserves
that
are
over
and
above
those
targets?
We
talked
about
we're
allowing
the
reserves
to
come
down
to
the
target
levels
and
maintain.
W
W
L
W
J
Nope
I'm
listening
to
everyone
here.
This
is
an
education
for
me,
and
certainly
you
know
we're
gonna
have
a
workshop,
so
this
will
be
more
detailed
and
at
the
end
you
know
we're
just
trying
to
become
sustainable
and
we
are
having
a
like.
You
said:
the
growth
is
coming
faster
than
we
can
fix
the
utility
to
even
out
with
the
growth
right
now.
We're
just
trying
to
keep
up.
Is
that
what
we're
doing
at
this
point?
W
A
number
of
years
ago
I
was
doing
some
work
with
the
city
of
winter
garden
and
I'm
sure
you're
familiar
with
the
with
the
parts
of
the
city
to
the
south,
stony
brook
west.
They
call
it
yes,
and
so
they
had
this
tremendous
growth
and
they
were
a
community
that
those
homes
actually
got
built
and
filled
up
before
the
recession
hit.
W
So
I
mean,
if
you
ignore
it,
it's
going
to
come
back
to
bite
you
and
so
you're
facing
the
dilemma
of
trying
to
serve
all
this
new
growth,
which
we
do
have
the
tool
of
impact
fees
to
help.
But
at
the
same
time,
you've
got
to
maintain
the
existing
assets
that
are
out
there
and
have
been
in
service
and
those
are
aging.
So
we
need
to
take
care
of
both
okay.
W
L
W
W
AA
AA
AA
Kate
manley
president
of
the
apopka
area,
chamber
of
commerce.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
present
tonight.
Oh
good.
It's
up
so
long
ago,
on
december
18
2019
there
was
an
agreement
and
approval
signed
by
city,
apopka
city
council,
in
partnership
with
the
apopka
area
chamber
of
commerce,
as
an
economic
development
initiative
to
create
some
dynamic
economic
development
tools
that
can
be
used
not
only
by
the
city
but
also
the
chamber
and
others
in
the
community,
as
you
guys
may
or
may
not
remember,
april
21st.
AA
My
second
day
on
the
job
here
in
the
community,
I
was
able
to
come
in
and
present
the
first
deliverable
that
was
the
grow
apopka.com
website.
That
is
a
collaborative
website
between
the
chamber
and
multiple
investors
that
are
part
of
the
chamber
that
are
leaders
in
industry
in
apopka,
who
invested
also
in
partnership
with
the
city
to
be
able
to
create
that
that
website
the
grow,
apopka
website
that
is
updated
and
managed
by
myself
and
the
city
I.t.
AA
Whenever
we
have
updates-
and
it
also
has
a
feed-
I'm
not
going
to
go
on
to
it-
because
I'm
afraid
that
I'm
going
to
change
what
we
have
on
the
screen
right
now,
but
I
just
kind
of
want
to
frame
up
that
that
grow,
apopka
site
exist
and
was
our
first
deliverable.
A
couple
of
the
other
deliverables
that
were
in
the
contract
were
a
marketing
piece
at
least
500
pieces.
AA
So
I
will
put
some
of
them
over
by
the
door,
but
I
believe
the
commissioners
have
the
invested
apopka
flyer,
and
this
is
actually
an
insert
from
that.
We
were
using
in
florida
trend.
That
was
an
insert
that
came
out
to
270
000
publications
this
month
in
january,
and
so
unfortunately,
this
is
very,
very
small.
So
I
will
send
it
out
to
you
I'll,
give
it
out
to
you
and
we
have
it
both
at
the
chamber
and
here
at
the
city,
but
also
it
is
online
and
a
little
bit
larger
online.
AA
AB
A
That
kind
of
charm
that
people
want
to
come
when
they
come,
then
they
want
to
stay.
The
economy
here
in
apopka
today
is
just
amazing.
Construction
is
a
major
sector.
Right
now
we
have
on
the
books
to
build
almost
7
000
residential
units.
We've
got
some
high-tech
companies.
Agriculture
is
still
a
big
part
of
apopka.
A
Seven,
eight
million
square
feet
of
industrial
coming
onto
the
market,
a
lot
of
job
opportunities
get
to
the
east
coast
like
daytona
beach
within
an
hour
west
coast,
tampa
within
an
hour
and
a
half
you're
30
minutes
to
the
back
of
disney
and
30
to
40
minutes
to
universal
studios.
We
have
one
of
the
most
amazing
athletic
complexes
in
central
florida.
Over
300
acres,
we've
got
baseball
fields,
soccer
fields,
a
1300
seat,
amphitheater
concerts
every
saturday
night.
The
city
of
apopka
has
the
lowest
property
taxes
in
central
florida.
We
have
some
incentive.
A
Programs
really
are
aggressively.
Looking
for
those
manufacturing
companies
that
can
help
us
grow
high-wage
jobs.
We
have
an
11
mile
trip
that
you
can
take
by
car
to
see
all
the
animals
along
the
lakefront
from
alligators
to
all
sorts
of
species
of
birds.
Unbelievable
springs,
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
view
nature,
the
city
of
apopka
just
purchased
camp.
We,
and
so
you
can
have
corporate
retreats,
we're
gonna
start
having
summer
camp
got
a
ropes
course.
We've
got
a
climbing
wall,
110
bed,
hospital
advent,
health,
all
the
specialties
that
you
need.
A
We've
got
11
schools
within
apopka.
All
of
them
are
just
great
schools.
The
city
of
apopka
is
just
a
great
place
to
visit
a
great
place
to
call
home
a
great
place.
To
start
your
business,
we've
got
friendly
staff.
We
got
friendly
folks
here
that
want
to
meet.
You
want
to
become
your
friend
just
a
great
place
to
live,
work
and
play.
AA
Thank
you.
So
this
has
been
rolled
out
here
just
for
a
few
days.
If
you
get
an
opportunity
to,
I
know
many
of
you
get
the
florida
trend,
and
I
know
commissioner,
said
you
think
it's
at
home.
So
please
pop
it
open
check
out
the
the
qrl
code.
That's
on
there
read
the
article
in
a
you,
know,
better
light
and
and
go
to
the
qr
code.
If
you
fill
out
and
put
your
email
address,
it'll
take
you
to
that
video
and
that
is
on
our
web
on
the
grow.
AA
AA
AA
That
is
existing
right
now.
Our
businesses
are
far
apart
in
a
lot
of
places
and
if
a
community-wide
app
when
people
go
out
to
the
northwest,
complex,
is
able
to
feed
information
and
let
people
know
that
they
can
come
into
town
and
have
a
have
a
sandwich
or
a
beer
or
coffee
that
that's
something
that
I've
laid
the
groundwork
for
and
those
emails
are
being
collected
by
the
organization
that
would
be
able
to
help
us
to
launch
that
community.
W
D
AA
AA
I
will
get
you
the
stats,
but
I
think
that
with
doing
adding
the
video
and
adding
different
additional
cuts
of
videos
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
drive
and
do
some
data
driven
target
marketing,
where
we
can
send
this
out
to
site
selectors
and
those
that
we
define
as
our
demographic
of
who
we
want
to
come,
invest
and
you
know,
live
work
and
play
in
apopka.
So
that
is
part
of
that.
C
AC
C
AA
AA
C
AA
I
can
tell
you
that
the
most
recent
is
the
new
pub
that's
going
into
the
old
cat
and
vine
location.
They
reached
out
to
me
a
few
days
ago
and
said:
look
we
are
coming
in
from
canada.
We
need
to
have
some
stats
and
demographics
that
has
a
very
specific
dashboard
on
it
for
all
of
the
demographics
that
they
needed
to
be
able
to
get
the
information
for
to
finalize
their
transaction.
AA
C
AA
AA
I
don't
believe
I'm
allowed
to
say
who
they
are
yet
because
I
don't
think
they've
come
to
the
city
officially,
although
we've
had
some
economic
meetings
in
the
chamber
with
some
of
city
staff,
but
there
is
an
organization
that
is
coming,
that
is
that
did
come
directly
through
that
website.
That's
coming
in
to
do
some
significant
job
growth-
and
you
know
some
investment
here
in
the
community
both
to
make
a
a
couple
of
plant
locations
and
also
jobs.
K
I
guess
the
other
part
of
the
project
is
that
are
we
going
to
have
some
like
souvenirs
like
when
we
go
to
tri-city
county
meetings
that
we
can
take?
In
addition
to
that,
you
know
we
go
others,
they
have
like
cups
and
all
sorts
of
things
that
they're
able
to
promote
their
city.
So
we
also
looking
at
doing
those
kind
of
things
as
well.
AA
I
think
that's
a
great
a
great
idea:
I've
actually
kind
of
gone
to
other
communities
in
other
areas
and
taken
pictures
of
some
things
that
I
think,
would
be
great
that
if
we
had
those
here
in
this
community
again,
I
think
that,
because
these
were
all
the
deliverables
from
the
investment
that
was
made
in
2019
and
just
got
finalized
december
2021
that
that's,
that
is
a
great.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
for
future.
I
think
that
there's
probably
some
stores
here
in
town
that
probably
could
carry
some
things
like
that
as
well.
AA
You
know
to
to
kind
of
couple
on
that,
so
that
might
be
something
that,
in
our
arts
and
entertainment
council,
that
we
discuss
what
type
of
marketing
we
should
do
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
only
marketing,
specifically
apopka
and
but
also
adding
in
either
grow
apopka
or
invest
apopka
or
some
of
the
other
ideas.
That
kind
of
think
bigger.
A
K
AA
M
B
This,
of
course
I
was
on
the
the
committee
back
when
we
started
this.
The
point
was
soup
to
nuts.
How
does
a
business
come
in
and
end
up
coming
here?
What
brings
them
here,
and
this
has
everything
from
the
attraction
to
the
how
to
if
you
haven't
seen
the
website,
you
know
please
go
on
there
and
that
really
speaks
to
the
point.
Now
we
need
to
market
it
because
we
have
the
tool.
Yes-
and
you
know
this
is
definitely
a
red
carpet
in
it's.
B
AA
J
The
question
that
I
have
is,
you
know,
I
know
we're
building
all
these
warehouses
and
we're
bringing
a
lot
of
business
in,
but
are
the
companies
bringing
their
own
employees
where
were
they
getting
their
employees
from?
Do
we
have
the
labor
force
here
in
apopka
and
are
they
because
are
we
still
having
the
same
amount
of
residents
leaving
apopka
or
because
the
the
purpose
that
we're
trying
to
bring
these
businesses
is
to
try
and
keep
more
residents
in
apopka
so
that
certain
businesses
will
consider
moving
into
apopka,
especially
restaurants?
J
That's
the
one
thing
that
our
residents
are
always
asking
for
bring
us
more
restaurants,
but
I
understand
that
the
reason
why
some
of
the
restaurants
don't
come
is
because
we
still
are
leaving
apopka
to
go
to
work
so
we're
bringing
businesses
in
we're.
Bringing
warehouses-
and
you
know
mr
cooper
is
here-
I
know
that
cooperstown
he
has
new
businesses
coming
in,
but
are
those
employees
our
residents
or
are
they
employees
from
outside
of
of
the
of
apopka
just
coming
into
work
and
then
leaving
again?
AA
Great
question
so
I'll
tell
you
the
first
first
thing
people
say
to
me
when
they
call
in
or
when
we
send
out
information
and
get
a
response
is
if
it's
an
organization
or
a
large
company
or
investors
looking
to
come
and
build
in
central
florida.
Why
would
they
come
to
apopka
what
what
is
their
interest?
The
first
thing
they
ask
me
about
are
schools
and
they
ask
about
the
quality
of
our
schools,
the
elementary
the
k
through
12.
AA
and
then,
of
course,
they
ask
about
our
higher
education
and
our
workforce
training,
so
the
chamber
has
partnered
with
another
nonprofit
organization
and
applied
for
a
couple
of
different
grants
for
workforce
training
and
then
also
went
to
the
county
to
talk
to
them
about
being
able
to
bring
some
workforce
training
dollars
in.
So
we
can
marry
those
up
we're
looking
at
virtual
programs
that
can
be
run
in
basically
2
000
square
feet.
AA
So
when
you
have
manufacturing
or
spacex
type
companies
who
want
to
build
and
also
be
here,
how
can
we
train
our
workforce
and
our
population,
our
community,
that
are
here
right
now?
What
would
be
logical
as
far
as
getting
them
trained
up
to
have
some
of
those
jobs
and
the
answer
to
that
is
training
and
accessibility
to
training?
AA
And
so
luckily
there
are
a
whole
bunch
of
new
technologies
and
there
are
training
systems
that
are
out
there
and
already
out
there
on
the
market
right
now
here
in
central
florida
as
well,
that
are
doing
virtual
training
classrooms
and
they
can,
they
can
change
it
up
from
anything
from
firefighters
to
high-end
manufacturing
positions.
That
would
be.
You
know
something
that
can
be
very
specific
and
construction
programs
that
are
also
some
of
them
can
be
in
a
virtual
lab
for
most
of
most
of
the
the
training.
AA
So
if
a
student
came
in
and
started
with
a
program,
a
training
program
that
the
community
is
doing
here
through
the
chamber-
and
they
were
like
indecisive
about
being
able
to
continue
at
virtual,
some
people
need
to
not
do
it
virtual
it
by
the
way,
when
I
say
virtual,
it's
not
just
a
computer
they're
fully
immersed.
So
it's
still
a
very
hands-on
experience.
However,
it's
still
when
you
want
to
think
about
when
you're
thinking
about
workforce
training,
what
if
it
doesn't
work
for
everyone,
what
happens?
Valencia
will
bust
them
to
them.
AA
If
transportation
is
an
issue
at
no
cost.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
looking
at
because,
because
that's
a
that's
part
of
it
is
when
I'm
trying
to
attract
a
business
here,
I
have
to
know
where
they're
going
to
get
their
workforce
and
I
have
to
know
where
their
family
is
going
to
live
and
what
kind
of
quality
of
life
they're
going
to
have
and
how
much
they're
going
to
pay
for
their
water
and
their
sewer.
J
Are
you
considering
intern
programs?
In
other
words,
these
big
companies,
or
you
know
these
major
companies
coming
in?
Are
we
at
least
partnering
with
them
and
say?
Can
they
provide
some
kind
of
in
in
a
program
that
maybe
our
seniors
high
school
seniors
can
kind
of
work
in
the
in
the
company
and
get
an
on?
You
know
on
job
training
type
of
deal.
AA
It's
a
great
segue
that
was
part
of
our
deliverable,
so
we
did
partner
last
year
and
I
believe
they
partnered
in
2020
and
2019
as
well
with
the
the
chamber
partnered
with
youth
works
with
careersource
central
florida
and
youth
works.
We
were
able
to
provide,
I
believe,
25
of
our
chamber.
Companies
were
able
to
be
internship
locations
for
now
they
had
an
extraordinary
amount
like
127
students,
but
25
was
pretty
significant
when
some
of
my
some
of
our
companies
were
still
online
and
virtual
ourselves
and
working
out
of
their
homes.
AA
So
that
is
again
another
thing
that
we're
doing
that
isn't
necessarily
part
of
this
deliverable.
That
was
on
the
table
back
in
2019,
and
I
would
you
know,
I
would
guess
even
earlier
than
that.
However,
looking
at
the
future
we're
just
dealing
with
what
we
have
and-
and
when
I
have
somebody
come
to
me
with
their
obstacles,
then
I'm
looking
for
those
solutions
and
absolutely
open
to
partnering
with
we
have
a
cabinet
company,
that's
reaching
out
looking
for
ways
to
to
start
a
program
to
teach
people
to
build.
AA
J
So
just
one
other
question,
because
I
know
that
many
of
the
investors
that
are
coming
here
is
because
of
location,
land
and
accessibility.
We
have
all
of
that.
Yes,
but
when
they're
interested
in
apopka,
what
is
their
top
like
concern?
What
is
it
that
they
want
from
us
that
maybe
we
are
not
providing
immediately
for
them?
What
is
it
that
they're
looking
for
three
things?
Why
they're
here.
AA
So
that's
a
lot
of
the
reason
that
people
are
even
looking
to
central
florida
and
then
naturally
kind
of
evolve
to
here
plus
we
have
been
getting
a
lot
more
attention
lately,
just
because
of
the
push
out
of
of
the
growth
and
because
of
our
interconnectivity,
so
that
that
has
been
happening
as
well,
but
the
first
thing
again,
the
first
two
things
that
they're
asking
me
for
is
really
the
the
workforce
and
the
schools
the
sec.
Probably
the
third
is
our
green
space.
AA
AA
So
they
see
that
I
think
that
a
lot
of
other
communities
across
the
country
don't
have
pods
of
restaurants
in
a
row
like
some
of
our
areas
here
in
central
florida.
So
people
don't
people
from
outside
of
here-
don't
necessarily
know
that
that
that's
you
know
something
that
this
community
is
paying
for
so
desperately,
because
we
know
a
convenience
that
we
can
drive
over
the
hill
for
and
while
it
will
come.
AA
My
concern
is,
you
know
not
all
of
our
existing
restaurants
right
now
will
move
to
whatever
a
city
center
is
they'll
stay
where
they're
at
most
of
them.
So
I
need
to
make
them
connected
now.
I
need
to
make
sure
they're
sustainable.
Now
I
need
to
make
sure
that
people
no
matter
where
they're
at,
if
they're
out
at
the
wildlife
drive,
if
they're
out
at
northwest
rec
and
they
don't
come
in.
AA
They
may
not
even
know
that
they're
in
apopka,
if
they,
if
we
don't
communicate
with
them,
while
they're
out
there
and
reach
them
and
say
hey.
This
is
where
we're
at
come.
Have
a
sandwich
here
come
here.
They
they
they're
missing
it,
but
not
necessarily
because
we
don't
have
a
square,
because
the
square
wouldn't
be
out
there.
We
still
have
to
pull
them
in
and
so
to
me.
AA
Yes,
I
want
a
community
square
too.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
as
well,
but
regardless
I'm
still
going
to
have
to
connect
southern
delhi
to
you
know
cafe
positano
to
all
of
the
to
to
down
to
beef
o'brady's
I
mean
I
need
to
connect
everybody
regardless,
and
the
only
way
that
I
can
think
to
do
that.
You
know,
especially
for
people
who
are
not
from
our
community,
is
to
have
those
apps
and
qrs.
You
know
qr
codes
that
they're
able
to
find
us
that
were
able
to
send
out.
AA
We
would
be
able
to
have
channels
and
be
able
to
say
hey.
This
is
where
we're
at
this
is
what's
going
on
today,
come
here
and
direct
people
that
way
and
and
people
are
much
more
tech
savvy
now,
because
we
kind
of
had
to
be,
and
so
that
again
isn't
for
today's
conversation,
it's
a
different
time
than
you
guys
will
tell
me
when
that
is.
D
AA
Z
J
AA
AA
Yourself,
you
know
it
has
great
acute
acoustics
if
you
sing
to
yourself
on
that
stage.
So
you
know
that's,
unfortunately,
that's
an
opportunity
that
you
can
have
you
know
pretty
frequently,
but
it
we
do
have
some
space.
I
think
that
more
in
town
inside
the
community
is
also
a
great
idea,
but
yeah
that's
just.
J
AD
AD
AD
AD
AD
AD
AE
A
AE
700
gym
commerce
court.
I
want
to
clear
the
air
a
little
bit
on
my
comments
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
in
reference
to
somebody
indicated
in
the
city
that
I
was
put
up
or
coerced
in
my
comments.
I
want
everybody
to
understand
and
realize
that
nobody
coerces
me
to
do
anything.
They
don't
put
me
up
nothing.
AE
I
am
my
own
person,
I
speak
for
my
heart
and
that's
all
there
is
to
it
next
quiet
next
problem
homeless,
between
hawthorne
and
first
street
mayor,
you
indicated
in
a
pamphlet
that
I
read
that
you
partnered
with
many
entities.
The
city
did
not
just
you,
but
your
city,
which
I
appreciate
that,
and
you
got
a
lot
done,
I'm
asking
you
to
partner
with
cooper
construction
company.
AE
A
AE
If
you
guys
would
provide
the
dumpsters
and
the
trucks
or
whatever
and
dispose
of
the
debris,
we'll
clean
that
stretch
up
100
and
prior
to
cleaning
it
up,
let's
give
the
homeless
people
at
least
30
days
to
vacate
before
we
clean
it,
because
there
are
people
living
in
there,
and
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
it's
just
a
matter
of
time.
Before
we
have
a
major
accident,
somebody
gets
killed
or
something
like
that.
AE
They're
already
harassing
the
people
at
the
bp
every
morning
they
harass
the
girls
there
and
I
don't
know
there
was
a
shooting
there
down
there
a
couple
of
years
ago.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
by
homeless
people
or
not,
but
still
these
kind
of
things
we
have
to
try
to
get
rid
of.
So
I
talked
to
bishop,
who
is
the
general
manager
of
the
railroad
he
indicated
he
had
no
problem.
If
we
would
turn
around
and
clean
it
up.
Of
course
he
wouldn't
now.
AE
I
talked
to
him
last
thursday
and
he
indicated
to
me
that
he
would
get
out
there
right
away
and
start
cleaning
within
an
hour.
He
had
a
backhoe
out
there,
but
the
only
thing
he
did
was
he
took
some
of
the
palm
trees
that
were
there
the
brush
and
he
put
it
along
the
aisle
way,
so
the
homeless
couldn't
get
in
there.
Well,
that
was
a
joke,
because
the
homeless
can
walk
right
through
the
palm
trees,
but
he
did
do
something
he
did
make
an
effort
to
do
it.
AE
Some
way
somehow
do
not
give
them
any
money
if
they
don't
work,
you
have
to
do
that
if
you
give
them
money,
you're,
just
keeping
the
fire
lit,
underneath
them
don't
do
that.
We
have
to
find
a
way
to
do
something
with
them,
so
we
have
to
entice
them
one
way
or
the
other
to
find
a
job,
and
maybe
we
all
could
work
together.
We're
willing
to
do
it.
When
I
see
somebody
on
the
street,
I
ask
them
right
off
the
bat
if
they
would
like
to
work,
they
walk
away
like
geronimo.
AE
Did
he
walk
away
so
the
thing
about
it
is?
If
we
can
all
work
together
if
they
want
to
go
someplace
and
live,
let
them
go
back
to
orlando.
We
don't
need
them
here
in
apopka
and
I
feel
for
him.
You
know
there
was
a
girl
there
that
she
had
a
dog
and
on
thursday,
when
the
railroad
company
came
out,
they
took
her
pit
bull,
she
wasn't
there
and
it
took
a
rabbit,
the
two
of
them.
I
felt
sorry
for
the
girl
but
she's.
AE
AE
A
The
only
the
only
issue
we
I
mean
we're
happy
to
help
you
with
that,
but
the
the
property
in
in
question
is
in
the
county,
but
I
mean
it's
just
across
the
street.
It
gets
to
the
city,
so
I
mean
we
we're
happy
to
help
we'll
we'll
reach
out
to
our
partners
at
the
county
to
see
what
what
we
can
do
and
it
said,
did
you
get
written
permission
or
just
just
verbal.
AB
AB
AB
Secondly,
although
we
had
flood
insurance
to
cover
the
structural
damage
on
the
house,
there
were
some
there
were
some
costs
that
were
incurred
that
were
over
and
above
the
structural
damage.
So
I
originally
filed
a
claim
for
these
on
july
30th
2019,
but
it
was
denied
we
weren't.
Given
the
the
reasons
for
the
denial,
because
the
city
said
it
was
proprietary.
AB
The
reasons
were
so
we
couldn't
file
an
appeal
because
we
weren't
told
why
it
was
denied.
But
after
reviewing
the
drainage
consultants
report
that
was
authorized
by
the
city
and
prepared
by
the
engineering
company
vhb,
I
decided
to
request
a
review
of
the
claim.
The
drainage
improvement
project
that
was
based
on
this
report
stated
that
the
stormwater
runoff
exceeded
the
capacity
of
the
drainage
inlets
and
they
recommended
that
nine
inlets
be
installed
in
the
vicinity
of
my
home
to
alleviate
the
flooding.
AB
AB
I
received
a
single
two-word
response
on
october
sept
27
and
nothing
since
I've
sent
emails
on
december,
2nd
december
14th,
requesting
a
status
update
and
volunteering
information
or
any
documentation
that
they
may
need.
I've
been
assured
on
through
emails
and
conversations
with
mr
bass
that
he'd
follow
up
with
this,
but
I've
heard
nothing.
I've
copied
all
of
you
on
this,
but
since
I've
had
no
responses
to
my
emails,
I
figured
I
needed
to
come
before
you
to
at
least
plead
my
case.
AB
AB
AB
So
I
was
returned
home
on
my
own
to
handle
all
this
and
I'm
still
two
and
a
half
years
later,
still
dealing
with
all
this.
So
my
emails
aren't
getting
me
anywhere,
so
I
decided
to
come
back
to
try
to
see
if
I
could
get
some
help
to
get
this
resolved.
So
I
could
put
all
this
behind
me.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
tonight
thank.
N
Yes,
mayor
so
and
pam,
thank
you
for
laying
that
out.
You
know
and
pam,
and
I
have
been
had
lots
of
discussions
and,
as
you
know,
you
have
been
copied
on
a
lot
of
the
communication,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
have
worked
very
very
hard
on
this
issue
for
pam
as
far
as
the
sprinkler
reimbursement.
As
you
know,
mayor
and
city
council,
the
city
cannot
write
a
check
just
to
anybody.
N
We
have
that
we
have
to
have
the
information
to
put
into
our
system.
We
are
required
to
have
the
information,
the
address,
the
information
and
our
and
in
order
to
issue
a
check
we
have
to,
we
have
to
have
a
w
nine
from
each
person
because
we
get
audited
for
those
those
our
expenditures
are
audited
and
they
audit.
If
we
don't
have
that
information,
we
cannot
write
a
check.
We
can't
just
write
a
check
to
anybody
without
that
information.
Now
I
will
tell
you
it's
a
reimbursement.
N
I
am
not
a
tax
expert,
so
I'm
not
giving
any
tax
advice,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
we've
done
this
before,
where
we've
had.
You
know
issues
where
we've
had
in
grant
that
comes
out
of
our
project
budget
and
we
have
to
to
reimburse
for
damages
or
whatever
that
we
have
that
we
may
have
have
that
we
may
have,
but
it's
a
reimbursement.
So
it's
not.
We
don't
report
the
reimbursement
to
the
irs
as
income,
because.
N
And-
and
maybe
our
finance
department
said
that
to
you,
but
what
I'm
saying
today
tonight
is
is
that
we
have
to
have
the
information
to
put
the
information,
our
system
tissue,
a
check,
we're
not
a
tax
expert.
The
city
is
not.
We
do
not
have
anybody
on
staff.
That
is
a
tax
expert
that
can
give
that
information,
but
we
can
we
issue
a
reimbursement
check.
If
we
issue
a
reimbursement
check,
it
will
say
that
it
will
be
a
reimbursement
for
damages
for
property.
D
C
D
I
C
A
C
AB
I
AB
Correct
well
see,
and
when
I
asked
about
that,
that's
why
I
was
a.
I
was
confused
because
it
said
right
here
in
the
email,
when
I
did
question
that
it
came
back
that
that
all
organizations
must
file
an
information
return
with
the
irs
must
obtain
the
correct
tax
identification
number
to
report
income
paid
to
you.
So
they
were
telling
me
that
it
was
going
to
be
considered
income
paid
to
me.
So
that's
why
I
questioned
it
because
then
I
have
to
then
report
it
then,
as
a
payee
vendor.
AB
I
N
That
was
in
my
second
comment
was
going
to
be.
To
that
is
pam.
I,
the
insurance
company,
will
call
you
was
supposed
to
get
with
you
directly,
so
I
will
follow
up
with
that.
I
did
not
know.
I
thought
they
had
already
reached
out
to
you,
so
I
will
follow
up
with
that
tomorrow
and
then
get
in
contact
with
I'll
get
in
contact
with
them
and
have
them
give
us
a
time
of
when
they're
going
to
finish
the
review
of
your
cloud.
Your
second.
N
AB
I've
already
gotten
two
denials
without
any
type
of
investigation
whatsoever,
and
and
so
I'm
concerned
that
they're
trying
to
sweep
it
under
the
rug-
and
I
mean
I
mean
obviously
there's
been
you
know
this
report
states
and
they
put
nine
inlets
within
visual
contact
with
my
house.
Obviously
there
was
a
flooding,
a
real
flooding
problem
there
right.
N
AB
AB
AB
B
N
Right
and
that
would
be
for
her
yeah
from
from
mrs
ripley's
side-
that's
her
side
when
it
comes
in
how
it's
treated
on
her
from
her
on
for
tax
purposes,
she
will
have.
There
is
a
release
form
that
shows
that
it
is
that
explains
that
it
is
a
reimbursement
for
that
damage,
because
we
have
the
invoice
and
where
she
has
he's
paid
for
these
charges,
and
so
there'll
be
a
release
form
that
she'll
have
to
go
along
with
her
reimbursement
to
show
that
it
was
a
reimbursement
and
not
not
income
and.
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
I
haven't,
I
haven't
put
it
all
together,
I
did
send
over
invoices
for
the
pod
units,
the
pack
out
services
I
sent
over
because
it's
going
to
take
me.
You
know
a
lot
of
time
to
put
things
together
because
in
the
meantime
some
of
my
records
were
destroyed.
When
we
were
over
at
living
out
of
the
house,
a
computer
got
destroyed,
a
lot
of
our
records
were
destroyed.
So
I'm
having
to
recreate
a
lot
of
this
too.
AB
So
I
mean
obviously
I
want
to
hear
from
the
insurance
company,
because
it's
going
to
take
time
but
yeah
I've
got
my
bedroom
set,
was
totally
destroyed.
It
was
on
the
curb.
We
lost
other
furniture,
I
mean
so
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
you
know
a
little
bit,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
like
the
whole
house,
I
mean,
but
you
know
it's
it's
it's
not
a
major
thing,
but
I'd
like
to
at
least
feel
like
you
know,
I've
got
a
little
portion
of
my
life
back
because
I
had
to
replace
my
bedroom
set.
AB
Z
You
mayor,
nelson
and
you
city,
commissioners
pulled
the
plug
on
your
involvement
with
our
community
as
we
struggle
to
stave
off
any
further
unwanted
development
in
already
built
out
neighborhoods
a
13-year
long
struggle
mission
picked
the
metaphor
she
threw
us
under
the
bus.
You
threw
us
to
the
wolves,
you
renounce
democracy.
Z
You
rebuff
service
to
your
constituents
at
whose
pleasure
you're
supposed
to
be
serving
at
that
november.
Second,
meeting,
which
city
attorney
michael
rodriguez,
dominated
we
homeowners
and
citizens,
were
muzzled,
no
opportunity
for
comments
or
questions
at
a
critical
moment
in
the
survival
of
our
community,
showing
little
respect
for
our
citizens.
Z
Z
AF
You
good
afternoon,
council
just
came
regardless
of
two
two
items
I
want
to
follow
up
on.
The
first
is
the
backflow
meters.
I
think
it
was
maybe
a
month
or
two
ago
you
guys
discussed
the
issue
that
residents
would
have
to
be
responsible
for
repairing
them
or
paying
someone
to
come
out
and
check
them.
I
just
was
trying
to
clarify:
has
that
been
in
place?
Yet
how
do
it
be
handled
and
what's
the
time
frame,
to
get
the
information
out
to
the
residents?
I
want
these
things
to
start
to
take
place.
AF
I
think,
referring
back
to
the
november
second
meeting,
where
we
were
there,
listen
to
what
you
guys
had
to
say
it
came
to
that
the
city
was
going
to
possibly
sell
the
property
to
binge
development.
So
my
question
is,
at
this
point
how's
that
taking
place
yeah.
No,
so
really
what's
the
plans
at
this
this
juncture,
because
we
kind
of
left
ultimate
left
our
community
pretty
much
in
the
devastation
we
had
a
ho
meeting
last
night
that
was
pretty
much
just
hellacious
in
fighting.
AF
AG
A
AG
4434
bradley
avenue
orlando
florida,
I
come
to
speak
on
on
the
issue
of
early
voting.
You
know,
oftentimes,
I
go
places
and
I
I'm
pretty
affirmative
and
aggressive
in
my
stances,
but
I
got
to
give
credit
where
it's
due
of
the
four
teams
of
municipalities
within
orange
county.
None
of
them
have
early
voting
locations
for
their
municipal
elections
in
their
city
or
town.
You
all
have
an
opportunity
to
be
the
first
in
this
county
to
do
so
being
the
second
largest
city
in
orange
county.
AG
AG
I
know
it's
limited
to
resources,
but
just
hoping
that
everybody
gets
that
ability,
I'm
also
the
ceo
of
an
empowerment
agency,
of
which
many
local
businesses
represent
at
least
20
within
the
apopka
area
and
they're
not
always
able
to
get
off
if
it's
between
the
hours
of
eight
and
five.
But
if
you
extend
the
hours
to
seven
o'clock,
they'll
have
the
ability
to
participate
in
the
process
as
well.
As
I
said,
I'm
a
community
advocate.
I
understand
everybody
is
a
part
of
the
community.
AG
You
all
have
a
thriving
great
community
right
here
in
apopka
yeah
there
are
issues
to
resolve,
and
but
y'all
have
a
good
meeting
is
moving
fluidly
and
I
need
to
bring
some
of
this
back
to
the
city
of
orlando.
Don't
tell
buddy,
I
said
it,
but
thank
you
for
the
time
and
opportunity,
and
I
hope
that
this
early
voting
that
you
all
put
in
is
a
landmark
and
it
gets
spread
throughout
the
county
in
every
municipality.
AH
I
want
to
say
thank
you
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart
for
everything
you
did
to
make
our
13th
annual
martin
luther
king
parade
a
success
to
look
down
the
street
and
to
see
our
police
officers
coming
down
with
our
chief
leading
the
way
and
then
our
firefighters
at
the
end,
bringing
it
up
from
the
rear,
and
I
tell
you
just
whenever
I
called
chief
mckinley.
He
never
exchanged
words.
He
said
monique,
you
got
it
whatever
you
need,
deputy
chief
miller
will
take
care
of
it
and
officer.
AH
Wiggins
is
always
right
there
to
help
in
everything
that
we
do.
Chief
wallet,
I
don't
know
you
that
well,
but
I'll
get
to
know
you
but
you're
doing
a
great
job,
and
thank
you
so
much
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done
to
make
the
city
of
apopka
so
proud
on
monday.
If
you
were
not
at
the
parade,
you
missed
a
treat,
it
was
a
great
thing,
so
I
just
want
to
say
to
the
city,
to
the
commissioners
and
to
our
mayor.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
AI
AI
To
give
you
a
little
background
on
myself,
I
retired,
out
of
the
navy.
2003
grew
up
in
orlando,
a
sheltered
black
boy,
because
in
the
navy
we
had
camaraderie,
we
had
to
have
each
other
back.
Our
lives
depend
on
it.
So
we
had
a
brotherhood.
We
had
a
barn
when
I
left
and
joined
the
navy
bike
in
1980,
let's
say
82,
you
can
have
a
fist
fight
and
and
get
up
the
next
day
and
smile
and
talk
to
each
other
about
it.
AI
When
I
come
home
in
2003,
I
get
out
of
the
navy,
didn't
want
to
get
out
of
the
navy,
but
I
had
a
beautiful
wife
of
36
years.
I
had
three
girls,
three
beautiful
girls,
and
then
my
wife
was
pregnant.
With
my
son,
I
chose
family
over
military,
so
when
I
got
out
raised
my
raising
my
only
son
had
a
chance
to
go
to
elementary
school
rock
springs
ridge
go
visit
during
lunch.
AI
AI
That
was
my
job
as
a
father,
so
I
wasn't
doing
that
very
well,
so
I
moved
back
to
take
care
of
home
being
a
father
being
a
husband
that
was
five
years
ago.
Married
two
months
ago
I
told
you
I
was
back
and
I'm
back.
I
have
a
simple
goal
in
life.
Now
god
has
been
good
to
me.
Like
I
said
I
had
a
beautiful,
I
have
a
beautiful
wife
that
loved
me
of
36
years.
I
got
four
kids
that
love
me
for
daddy
and
I
always
been
there
for
them.
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
It's
up
to
everybody
in
here
in
this
room.
I'm
asking
you
today
your
moral,
conscious.
Let
your
moral
countries
guide
you
and
doing
the
right
thing,
because
all
the
things
that
we
complain
about
we
can
change
them
overnight
if
we
so-called
get
to
whether
we
get
together.
When
you
hear
this
we'll
we'll
community.
AI
Well,
if
we're
a
community,
we
wouldn't
have
poverty
that
mr
cooper
is
talking
about
in
in
south
apopka.
We
wouldn't
have
the
crime
when
I
watched
the
chamber
so
so
eloquently
put
out
what
people
are
looking
for
when
they
come
here.
Well,
the
number
one
thing
I
worry
about
is
the
crime
rate
that
wasn't
even
mentioned,
because
we
sugarcoat
over
everything.
AI
AI
God
said
the
poor
would
always
be
among
us,
but
he
said,
take
care
of
him
and
when
we
take
care
of
the
poor,
it's
not
we're
handing
out
charity,
that's
our
obligation,
and
so
when
I
see
on
christmas,
we're
doing
the
right
thing,
we're
giving
them
presents
we're
giving
them
bicycling
every
year
it
grows
bigger
and
bigger.
No,
I
want
a
family
to
be
able
to
sit
in
their
own
home
and
provide
for
their
family
where
they're
not
in
need
of
somebody
else
to
give
them
a
handout.
AI
A
B
P
P
A
Y
T
Since
that
time,
there's
been
no
standalone
election
in
early
voting
for
early
voting
in
in
the
city,
but
it
during
those
times
when
the
stand-alone
elections
were
held.
The
early
voting
was
down
at
the
supervisor
of
elections.
So
on
the
agenda
tonight
we
have
the
agreement
for
the
facility
use
of
the
early
voting
beginning
on
tuesday
march,
first
first
and
ending
on
sunday
march
6,
and
that
agreement
is
between
the
hours
of
eight
and
five.
J
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
the
justification's
there
I
mean
it
doesn't
really
matter
how
many
seats
are
on
the
ballot
or
you
know
what
happened
in
2006
right.
If
you
just
look
at
our
past
two
elections
in
the
city
of
apopka,
I
just
looked
at
the
numbers.
While
we
were
sitting
here
so
2018,
which
was
the
last
mayoral
election,
which
would
have
been
the
apples
to
apples
comparison
right,
yeah,
it's
staggering.
Only
62
people
early
voted
one
percent
of
turnout,
that's
because
it
was
in
orlando.
C
If
you
fast
forward
to
2020
7
500
people
give
or
take
cast
ballots
for
c3
and
c4
early
voting
represented
2,
400
people
or
32
of
the
vote
so
right
there.
The
justification
proves
that
if
you,
if
you
extend
as
many
channels
as
possible
to
vote
you're
going
to
get
the
people
that
engage
in
the
process,
so
that's
invaluable.
It's
priceless
and
I
would
I
would
venture
to
say
that
we
extend
it
for
the
full
period
as
established
calendar-wise
and
do
it
from
seven
to
seven.
J
And
you
know
we
we
have
gotten,
I
don't
know.
I
know
I
have
gotten
from
residents
that
live
within
rock
springs
ridge.
It
doesn't
always
concern
a
particular
area
in
and
in
apopka,
and
we
understand
that
in
south
the
south
side
of
apopka
most
of
the
residents
there
don't
have
the
ability
to
go
down
to
orlando
and
they
like
the
convenience
of
the
apopka
community
center,
because
they
can
literally
walk
to
it.
J
And
although
the
residents
in
rock
springs
ridge
still
have
to
drive,
I
have
a
lot
of
seniors
widows
that
won't
drive
to
orlando
and
want
to
vote
in
person,
and
they
can
get
a
neighbor,
a
family
member
that
can
get
them
there,
usually
after
five,
because
most
of
the
people
working
and
then
after
five
their
family
member,
can
pick
them
up
and
take
them
to
the
voting
through
the
poll
to
vote.
So
I
do
recommend
that
we
do
the
early
voting
from
seven
to
seven.
AD
A
K
J
J
J
If,
if
we
start
changing,
then
the
dates
which
now
you've
taken
a
day
away
from
voting
with
wednesday
you've
taken
the
two
days
away
by
doing
thursday,
I
just
would
like
to
leave
it,
as
is
which
we
had
decided
initially
from
tuesday
to
sunday,
but
instead
of
eight
to
five
from
seven
to
seven,
because
by
changing
the
dates,
you're
still
taking
away
dates
days
from
the
opportunity
for
residents
to
vote,
you're
still
doing
that
by
changing
the
dates
the
day.
I'm
sorry
not
the
dates.
The
day.
J
J
C
Yeah
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
let's
maximize
the
opportunity
for
people
to
vote.
I
mean,
historically
speaking,
only
20
of
our
electorate
vote
in
the
city
of
apopka
elections.
If
we're
statutorily
allowed
to
get
up
to
12
hours
per
day.
Let's
do
it,
I
mean,
let's,
let's
make
this
the
open,
most
open
civic
process.
There
is.
C
So
the
2020
election
now
granted-
that
was
a
longer
period
of
time
14
days,
but
if
you
normalize
it
out
over
a
thousand
people
voted
early
voted.
If
you
just
divide
the
14
and
then
times
it
by
the
six
days
that
we're
saying
we're
entertaining
here
so
it'd
be
between
14
to
32
percent
that
voted
now
again,
the
constraints
were
that
you
had
eight
to
five
each
one
of
those
days
too.
It
wasn't
a
seven
to
seven
things
so.
C
I
I
I
I
C
In
march
I'll
I'll
argue
that
point,
because
the
2020
election
was
impacted
by
the
onset
of
kovid.
You
didn't
have
typical
turnout
in
the
presidential
preference
primary
because
of
that,
so
the
numbers
were
not
necessarily
overly
inflated.
It
was
still
7
500
people
which,
at
the
time
was,
you
know,
probably
a
little
bit
over
20
of
our
electorate.
What
I'm?
What
I'm
arguing
is-
and
that's
why
I
said
apples
to
apples
before
the
2018
mayoral
election
would
have
been
your
apples
to
apples
comparison.
C
So
first,
if
we're
thinking
that
the
same
early
vote
turnout,
the
62
people
that
early
voted
in
that
particular
election.
If
we
don't
think
that
that's
going
to
material
increase
because
we
have
a
location
closer
to
apopka
and
we
have
a
voting
hours
that
make
it
as
most
accessible
as
possible
for
all
people
living
in
apopka,
I
would
argue
that
we're
not
going
to
have
a
material
increase.
That's
false!
I
mean
you
just
look
at
the
natural
trend
lines
of
having
it
closer
to
home
and
extending
those
hours.
C
C
I
agree
that
the
presidential
primary
kind
of
throws
things
out
of
whack
because
we
piggyback
on
that
that
election.
But
again,
if
I
look
at
just
commissioner
banks
and
his
seats,
it
was
roughly
7
500..
In
fact
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
I
think
doug's
race
got
more
votes
than
our
race,
so
whatever
that
means.
AC
C
B
J
Well,
we've
never
done
it
before
early
voting
only
with
2006,
but
at
least
we
have
that
year
to
compare
that
for
one
seat.
You
still
had
223
voters
come
out
for
early
voting.
We
can't
even
compare
I
asked,
and
I
did
ask
susan
what
other
cities
were
running,
also
an
election,
and
so
we
don't
really
have
too
much
to
compare,
because
the
other
cities
are
also
using
orlando,
the
cayley
street,
but
we'll
be
the
first.
Is
that
what
someone
said?
Let's
set
the
bar?
J
J
J
I
C
I
J
That
more
people
will
come
out
to
vote.
I
believe
that
I
believe
that
if
I
make
this
election
accessible
to
our
city
residents
that
they
will
come
out
to
vote
they're
not
coming
out
for
one
seat,
they're
coming
out
for
three
seats,
it's
so
important
to
all
the
residents
in
the
city
of
apopka
to
have
an
opportunity
to
vote.
I.
I
J
J
There
is
the
mail-in
ballot,
but
sometimes
those
things
aren't
as
easily
accessible
to
them.
They
forget
to
ask
for
the
mail-in
ballot
and
then
they
lose
out
on
a
vote
and
part
for
me
anyway.
I
feel
their
vote
is
very
important
to
me.
Okay,
while
we
just
get
some
public
comments,
I
mean,
but
you
asked
me
to
explain
why
I'm
I'm
advocating
for
seven
to
seven.
So
this
is
what
I'm
advocating
okay
go
ahead.
V
Okay,
that's
a
good
debate.
I
like
it.
Okay,
have
you
all
read
the
statue,
the
florida
statue?
Yes,
one
on
one:
six:
yes,
five,
seven!
In
fact,
it
said
30
days
before
30
days
beforehand.
All
right,
you
have
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
choice
of
what
you're
going
to
do.
You
have
10.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
I'm
sorry!
I
got
into
what
you
was
talking
about.
My
name
is
david
rucker
r-u-c-k-e-r.
V
I
am
a
board
member
and
advisor
for
the
aa
triple
c
with
bill
and
my
group
all
right.
I
am
constantly
doing
things
in
the
neighborhood.
I'm
an
advocate
for
voting
all
right.
We're
still
still
talking
about
voting
when
the
first.
The
first
thing
that
we
did
the
voting
rights
act
in
1965.,
it's
been
57
years
and
we're
still
talking
about
something
that
should
never
have
to
keep
going
and
talking
about
anyway,
and
in
2006
george
bush,
london
about
to
vote
all
right.
V
He
did
sign
some
things
to
do
that
and
he
said
he
would
go
to
court.
So
we
can
see
it's
supposed
to
be
a
non-protestant
thing,
but
evidently
it's
not
half
of
the
time.
Are
we
supposed
to
be
stealing
votes,
doing
wrong
about
voting
and
people
winning
and
losing
and
dealing
accept
things?
That
is
wrong.
I
agree
with
you
about
having
the
voting
here
in
orange
county
in
in
apopka,
instead
of
going
15
miles
away
to
vote
all
right.
That's
that's
discrimination
right
there
because
you
determine
people
not
that
want
to
go
vote.
V
You
have
them
way
downtown!
It's
30
miles
round
trip
you
ever
try
to
go
from
apopka
in
the
afternoon
or
either
in
the
early
morning,
downtown
orlando.
It's
hell!
Okay!
So
if
we
do
early
voting
here
all
right,
it
costs
you
less
than
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
do
it
for
the
whole
time.
It's
not
that
much
money,
all
right
so
get
the
people
here,
do
more
advertising
about
early
voting
and
I'm
sure
you'll
get
a
turnout.
V
I
know
for
a
fact,
it'll
happen
all
right,
even
with
the
the
viruses
and
things
people
don't
want
to
mingle
and
go
way
downtown.
So
that's
another
factor
too
that
I
think
you
all
consider
all
right.
The
thing
that
we
need
to
do-
and
I
said
we
do-
we
need
to
bring
the
naacp
over
here
our
sclc
some
other
organization,
to
talk
about
racial
discrimination
on
voting.
That's
what
you're
doing
we
have
to
look
at
those
things
and
make
sure
everybody
has
a
chance
to
vote.
It's
only
fair.
V
It's
only
fair,
that's
the
only
right
so
that
the
little
man
and
the
big
man
can
help
with
each
other
is
the
vote,
a
casual
vote.
I
am
a
strong
proponent
of
voting
all
right
because
you
got
a
voice
at
a
vote
if
you're
gonna
try
to
shut
people
out.
That
is
not
wrong.
I
mean
not
right
it's
wrong,
so
we
don't
need
to
keep
doing
that.
We
need
to
have
the
early
vote
here,
be
the
first
in
the
county
you're,
the
second
largest
city
in
the
county.
V
Why
not
be
the
first
to
do
early
voting
in
your
own
area
where
people
can
walk
or
either
get
a
little
short
ride,
maybe
even
ride
the
bus
all
right.
Those
are
some
things
that
you
don't
need
to
think
about
all
right,
and
if
you
want
us
to
help
you,
you
know
leroy,
and
I
we
can
do
that.
We
have
no
problem.
V
Okay,
so
that's
my
thing,
I'm
glad
you
all
brought
it
up.
You
said
some
things
that
I
was
gonna
talk
about,
but
I
don't
need
to
reiterate
on
those
anymore
all
right,
just
think
about
the
early
voting,
all
right
here
in
apopka,
instead
of
going
15,
we're
30
miles
round
trip
way
down
on
cayley
street
and
come
back
up
here
deterred
to
vote.
B
I'd
like
to
make
it
simple,
I
think
you're
preaching
to
the
choir.
I
think
we
all
agree
that
and
I
think
what
people
don't
may
not
be
seeing
is.
This
is
an
advocate
for
a
vote
for
everyone.
It's
not
just
a
black
or
white
vote.
This
is
everyone
having
an
opportunity
and
it
makes
it
definitely
within
reach
for
those
who
have
a
greater
struggle,
but
this
is
something
this
is
a
really
small
amount
comparatively
to
what
we're
looking
at.
So
it's
adding
a
service
to
all
of
our
citizens
in
our
city.
B
I
think
it's
beneficial,
I
think,
in
in
the
climate
of
what
we're
dealing
with
today.
This
is
a
great
way
to
bring
us
together,
and
I
think
I
think
it's
a
positive,
positive
step
and
again
for
the
small
amount
that
it
is
and
the
benefit
that
it
provides.
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion.
Let's,
let's
do
number
two
is
yeah:
let's
go
yes,.
A
AI
AI
A
A
A
Now,
therefore,
I
brian
nelson
mayor
of
the
sea
of
apopka
is
required
by
law.
Do
hereby
proclaim
and
pronounce
that
early
voting
will
be
available
at
the
orange
county
supervisor
elections
office,
119,
west
caylee
street
orlando
florida
from
monday
february,
28
2022
through
friday
march
first
first
2022
8
am
to
5
pm
and
at
the
apopka
community
center
519,
south
central
avenue,
apopka
florida
from
tuesday
march
1st
2022
through
sunday
march,
6
2022
between
the
hours
of
7
a.m
and
7
p.m.
All
other
provisions,
proclamations
and
pronouncements
in
said
proclamations
issued
on
december
15,
2021.
L
A
M
O
Thank
you,
mayor,
jim,
hey,
community
development
director
this
this
subject
is,
as
you
just
said,
it's
for
the
downtown
apopka
station
street
project.
It's
the
rfp
number
is
2021-09.
The
request
is
to
negotiate
with
the
applicant
that
that
submitted
just
as
some.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
long
summary,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
I
have
the
information
into
the
record
in
case
people
are
also
listening
in
regards
to
this,
because
it
is
a
major
project
for
our
downtown.
O
O
The
request
did
include
the
following
requirements
as
as
a
as
a
summary,
it
was
a
mixed-use
development
consisting
of
residential,
either
apartments
or
condominiums
commercial
units.
On
the
first
floor,
an
open
space
event
area
of
three
quarters
to
an
acre
and
a
pavilion
for
the
farmers
mark
for
a
farmers
market
craft,
fair
movie,
night,
public
events
and
parking.
The
specifics
for
the
development
area
were
included
in
the
rfp.
There
were
about
six
different
attachments
that
somebody
can
download
for
those.
O
The
finance
department
did
advertise
the
rfp
which
began
advertising
on
august
22nd
2021
through
friday
october
15th
2021..
It
was
basically
54
days
that
was
extended
because
we
were
getting.
We
actually
had
seven
different
people
that
had
written
in
questions
and
we
provided
answers
for
those
for
those
for
the
application
itself.
O
O
An
evaluation
committee
was
formed
consisting
of
the
following
members.
It
was
myself
as
the
community
development
director
shikenya
harris-jackson,
which
is
our
who
is
our
grants.
Administrator
nicole
kennedy
who's,
our
sustainability
coordinator,
kenneth
goodwin,
who
is
the
executive
director
for
homes
and
partnership?
O
They
can't
do
any
comments
that
is
just
for
the
committee
for
the
review
committee
to
to
comment
review
the
the
the
scoring
criterion
if
there
were
any
opportunities
to
change
their
score
that
was
done
and
offered
at
that
time,
and
that's
based
on
some
input
for
that.
All
of
us
had
the
overall
final
scoring
for
the
standard
investments
in
holding
llc
was
86
out
of
105..
O
All
five
members
of
the
evaluation
committee
meeting
are
recommending
an
intent
to
negotiate
with
standard
investments
in
holdings
llc.
The
evaluation
committee
has
provided
the
following
comments
to
be
considered
for
further
clarification
and
recommendation
to
be
negotiated
with
the
standard
investment
in
holings
llc.
These
were
brought
up
the
appraisal
of
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
think
all
of
you
knew
that
the
appraisal
came
in
at
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
about
seven
months
ago
now
would
be
included
with
a
potential
rfp
award.
O
Complete
a
development
agreement
for
the
construction
time
period
as
described
in
the
rfp,
the
start
would
be
within
two
years
and
completed
within
four
and
also
then.
The
second
portion
of
that
is
complete
the
event
space
within
three
years
and
turned
over
to
the
city
for
operations,
a
minor
commercial
space
on
south
central,
possibly
up
to
two
units
and
either
with
either
a
separate
building
or
combined
with
the
first
floor
of
a
residential
building,
as
described
in
the
rfp
and
then
per
the
advertised
rfp
selection
procedures.
O
If
it
does,
if
we
cannot
make
in
a
decision
for
the
negotiations,
the
city
administrator
may
return
to
city
council
to
terminate
further
action
under
this
rfp.
If
an
agreement
is
successfully
negotiated,
negotiated
and
signed
by
the
proposer,
the
signed
agreement,
along
with
the
recommendations
from
the
staff,
will
be
presented
to
city
council.
O
I
can
only
I
can
answer
limited
questions,
not
necessarily
for
the
proposal
that
was
submitted.
Unfortunately,
until
we
actually
have
the
have
the
contract
negotiated.
That's
when
that
would
the
stage
would
come
back
to
city
council
to
discuss
what
was
part
of
that
proposal
and
what
was
negotiated
for
it.
A
O
C
That
precludes
us
from
even
having
a
concept
plan,
because
I'm
looking
at
the
bullets
that
you
have
in
the
lead-in
packet
and
I
hone
in
on
the
the
last
bullet
talks
about
minor
commercial
space
on
south
central
avenue,
possibly
two
units
with
either
a
separate
building
or
combined.
On
the
first
floor
of
a
residential
building,
that's
described
in
the
rfp,
and
I
thought
the
rfp
stated
just
that,
like
all
of
the
residential
would
have
commercial
on
the
first
floor,
this
one
says
it
might
be,
and
it
may
be
small.
O
The
the
we
we
did
want
commercial,
but
the
applicant
does
have
that
right
to
submit
something
different.
Our
feelings
from
the
committee
was
that
we
did
want
some
commercial
component,
whether
or
not
it's
two
units
on
or
or
more
on
at
least
one
building
it
doesn't.
It
did
not
never
specify
that
you
had
to
have
commercial
on
every,
but.
C
O
O
Well,
50
50
residential
units,
possibly
up
to
a
hundred
people,
would
be
to
consider
the
major
component
you
a
lot
of
times
with,
with,
with
a
lot
of
developments
that
are
done
in
a
downtown
community.
You
do
need
to
have
that
residential
component
to
even
make
or
to
even
have
commercial
people
come
in
to
consider
it
because.
C
I
keep
on
trying.
I
hear
that
over
and
over
and
over
again
this
whole
idea
that
we
we
need
the
residential.
We
need
the
rooftops
to
drive
commercial,
I
just
don't
buy
into
it
anymore.
I
mean
we've
got
19
000
rooftops
in
the
city
of
apopka.
We've
got
plenty
to
support
the
the
good
news
story
that
commercial
can
bring
to
the
city
of
apopka.
Do.
O
C
We
get
one
response,
that's
that's
a
red
flag
because
you
don't
have
a
variety,
that's
what
happened
with
our
city
center
with
taurus,
and
we
see
where
that's
where
that's
at,
and
I
think
we
should
learn
our
lessons
and
I
think
it
should
be
publicly
known
that
the
interests
that
are
part
of
this
bid
process
have
ties
to
people
that
are
running
on
this
council
currently
by
the
tune
of
654
ventures
as
well
as
benj
and
advisors.
So
I
just.
W
J
J
O
One
of
one
of
the
questions
that
came
up
was
regarding
the
brownfield
area,
so
we
provided
all
the
brownfield
information.
The
other
one
was
whether
or
not
the
streets
were
able
to
be
vacated,
and
that
was
another.
That
was
another
positive
response.
They
were
looking
for
the
total
property
available.
You
know
the
3.43
acres.
If,
with
the
vacate,
it
was
general
specifics
like
that,
the
the
other
one
was.
Can
you
go
more
than
the
50
units
and
no
because
it's
maximum
15
dwelling
is
per
acre
a
lot
of
it.
O
C
C
O
There
were
I,
provided,
I
believe
it
was
six
different,
fairly
large
development
firm
addresses
to
our
procurement
division
so
that
they
so
that
I
knew
of
a
few
that
were
interested
in
the
project.
That
was
a
downtown
type
project,
so
I
sent
those
out
that
was
part
of
that
was
part
of
the
trying
to
get
some
of
these
companies
to
76..
C
O
O
C
O
C
C
I
D
O
J
J
O
J
O
D
E
J
J
O
A
maximum
the
negotiation,
if
the,
if
they
come
back
and
say
hey,
we
can
do
it
in
three
years,
we'll
turn
the
park
over
to
you
in
a
year
a
year
and
a
half
something
like
that
that
that's
all
part
of
the
negotiation
that
we
can
that
we
can
go
to
I
mean
that's.
I
would
love
to
have
it
done
in
like
a
year
or
a
year
and
a
half,
but
there's
a
little
bit
more
to
do.
J
J
J
O
J
D
J
D
J
J
C
J
C
Power
by
saying
we
don't
accept
what
their
concept
is.
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day.
We
want
what
we
want
for
that
area.
That's
the
whole
point
of
a
public-private
partnership,
they're
getting
something,
and
we
want
that
something
in
return.
Yes,
that's
the
way
that
the
rfp
was
written
and
for
it
to
come
back
to
say
minor.
C
O
O
C
C
C
B
O
A
lot
of
it's
going
to
depend
on
where
they
want
to
put
their
buildings.
You
remember
the
concept
plan
that
I
had.
I
had
it
all
lined
up
along
the
railroad
tracks,
backing
up
to
the
railroad
tracks.
They
might
not
want
to
do
that.
They
might
want
to
put
their
parking
over
there
or
the
event
space,
because
the
brown
fields,
the
main
entrance
area
I
had-
I
had
put
just
south
of
that-
one
building-
that's
gosh,
I
want
to
say
it
was
where
field
goods
bar
it
was.
O
A
N
Yeah,
I
want
to
clarify
some
things
here,
so
so
let
me
kind
of
jim's
presented
everything.
Let
me
kind
of
tell
you
where
we
are
in
the
process,
so
we
we
did
the
bid
process.
We
received
one
bid.
Unfortunately,
and
I
will
tell
you
this-
I
was
hoping
we
would
receive
more.
We
wanted
more,
but
unfortunately
we
only
received
one
had
we
received
two
bids
or
more,
you
would
tonight
be
awarding
one
one
of
them.
If
there
were
two
or
more
you'd
be
awarding
one
based
on
the
scores
of
the
committee,
they
would
become.
N
We
would
staff
will
be
coming
to
you
and
asking
you
to
award
to
that
top
person
to
negotiate
with
that
top
person,
so
you
would
award
it
and
then
go
into
negotiations
with
that
with
that
top
candidate.
In
this
case,
we
only
had
one
so
what
you're,
what
what
tonight
from
from
a
procurement
standpoint
we
have
to
you,
have
to
make
a
decision
tonight
of
staff,
go
forward
and
negotiate
and
bring
back
their
plans,
their
contract,
their
plans.
You
know
I
can
envision
a
workshop,
that's
bringing
back
stuff
to
you
and
saying:
hey,
look!
N
Here's!
What
the
committee,
after
after
we
negotiated
and
sat
down,
here's
all
the
different
concepts,
different
plans,
all
the
different
things
that
we
negotiated
with
you
know
and
once
the
once
the
cone
of
silence
is
done.
Commissioners,
then
we
can
staff
can
meet
with
you
one
on
one.
We
can
meet
with
you
and
we
can
talk
about
those
issues.
You
know
the
things
that
you
want
to
see
and
things
that
when
the
original
rfps
said
you
know,
staff
we.
N
This
is
important
to
me,
commissioner
smith,
commissioner,
banks-
and
this
is
important
to
me-
and
we
can
work
through
those
negotiations
once
we've
once
you've
allowed
us
to
go
for
the
negotiations.
What
you're
doing
tonight
saying
negotiate
does
not
commit
you
to
a
contract
or
an
agreement
with
this
with
this
company.
All
it
say
all
you're
telling
us
is
go
forward,
negotiate,
bring
back
the
information
we
can
have
meetings
with
you
one-on-one
once
all
the
information's,
once
you've
awarded
or
or
the
other
option
you
have,
which
I
will
tell
you
about
that.
N
Then
we
that
process
kind
of
starts
and
then,
if
you
still
can't
get
to
an
agreement
in
that
negotiation,
then
we're
done
we're
done
and
it's
dead
now.
The
other
option
you
have
tonight
that
you
can
do
as
well
is
you
can
say
staff.
I
don't
like
that
one.
I
want
to
get
more
bids,
try
to
get
more
bids,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
our
procurement
worked
hard
to
get
bids.
N
N
C
So
let
me
just
restate
my
milestone
too
and
then
I'll
I'll
yield
for
the
rest,
so
this
rfp
was
supposed
to
go
out
in
january
2019..
If
you
recall,
when
we
started
having
our
regular
weekly
meetings,
I
remember
specifically
putting
down
q1
of
2019
that
this
rfp
was
supposed
to
go
out
the
market.
The
reason
publicly
stated
every
single
time
was
that
we
didn't
have
the
staff
to
write
the
rfp
every
time
I
see
a
head
nod
and
I
think
we're
all
in
agreement
there,
the
this
didn't
go
out
until
2021.
C
So
I
can
appreciate
our
council
saying
that.
Okay,
once
the
bid
goes
out
you're
in
this
cone
of
silence,
but
we
had
over
two
years
to
get
market
excitement
and
I'll
play
back
the
video,
because
when
I
said
of
the
734,
how
many
additionally
did
you
reach
out
to
you
said
six,
so
I'm
assuming
that's
after
it
went
out
so
I'll
leave
that
for
the
record
to
dictate,
but
we've
had
plenty
of
opportunity
to
build
interest
and
sell
the
value
proposition
of
this
of
this
station
street
area.
C
And
again,
I
I
want
to
caution
this
council
that
you
know,
typically
in
campaigns,
there's
there's
interest
in
the
community
developers,
engineering
companies
etc
that
donate
to
campaigns.
It's
part
and
parcel
for
for
these
things
and
rfp
is
a
little
bit
different
of
a
beast
because
of
the
things
that
you're
describing
here
cones
of
silence,
and
not
able
to
talk
about
concept
plans
in
a
public
forum.
C
Again,
I
will
state
that
there
has
been
max
contributions
to
the
mayor's
re-election
bid
from
interests
that
are
in
tied
to
the
llc,
who
are
the
single
bid
that
put
the
bid
in
for
this
process.
That
alone
should
be
enough
for
this
to
go
back
to
market,
and
I
would
put
forth
the
motion
that
we
reject
this
bid
and
put
the
rfp
back
out
into
the
market.
B
C
C
I
think
it
needs
to
go
back
out
to
market
and
to
your
point,
if
there's
only
one
bid
back.
What
does
that
say
about
the
market
at
large
right
now,
they're
saying:
hey,
there's
we
don't
have
enough
interest
or
demand
to
do
that
type
of
project.
So
maybe
that's
for
us
to
say:
let's
pause
on
it,
but
I
don't
I
don't
buy
into
that.
Like
I
said,
I,
you
know
unless
someone
can
prove
and
and
show
me
who
they
talk
to
outside
of
the
cone
of
silence
to
say
I
approach
this
developer.
C
K
K
J
A
O
O
I
All
right
we're
good
all
right
good
evening,
commissioners
presented
before
you
today
is
the
settlement
agreement
in
the
ongoing
litigation
between
the
city
of
apopka
and
neb
group,
three
rivers,
billing
and
mr
david
sulik.
The
parties
were
mandated
by
the
court
to
go
to
mediation
pursuant
to
the
complex
business
rules
of
the
circuit
court.
Mediation
was
conducted
last
week
and
the
parties
have
entered
into
a
tentative
agreement
to
settle
the
litigation
in
this
matter.
I
There
was
a
valid
question
and
one
of
the
counts
in
our
complaint
was
actually
seeking
those
records
to
be
returned
to
the
city
biggest
concern
I
had
was
that
those
were
public
records
that
were
in
the
possession
of
a
third
party,
and
we
had-
and
I
had
two
specific
issues.
One,
the
contract
between
neb
and
the
city
had
expired
city
deemed
as
part
of
the
complaint
that
was
drafted
by
my
predecessor
that
that
that
contract
was
breached
and
therefore
terminated
during
the
tendency
of
the
litigation
and
the
discovery.
I
We
has
discovered
that
the
that
neb
as
our
ems
billing
agent
did
not
hold
the
city's
records,
but
the
records
were
passed
on
to
a
third
party
of
which
the
city
had
no
contract.
That's
where
three
rivers
billing
comes
in
turns
out.
Three
rivers
billing
through
a
cloud-based
storage
system,
is
the
one
that
is
holding
the
ems
records
of
the
city
from
2007
to
2019.
I
When
the
contract
with
neb
was
terminated,
the
city
does
not
have
did
not
have
the
ability
to
obtain
those
records
to
grab
those
records
and
now
neb
as
the
license
holder
to
this
cloud-based
storage.
Sorry,
three
rivers
as
the
license
holder.
This
cloud-based
storage
system
had
the
control
of
the
ems
billing
records,
which
contained
hipaa
private
private
information.
I
So
one
of
the
things
we
were
trying
to
obtain
as
part
of
our
settlement
in
this
case
was
that
the
city
needed
to
get
its
records
back.
This
turned
into
a
convoluted
electronic
I.t
issue,
things
that
they
don't
teach
me
in
law
school.
We
had
to
go
to
rely
on
our
on
our
I.t
department
through
riverside
department,
as
well
as
the
iit
department
for
the
cloud-based
storage
company
central
square,
which
is
the
one
who
issues
the
licenses.
I
Basically,
what
occurred
here
is
that
the
dad
didn't
have
the
I.t
hardware
to
store
the
equipment,
so
he
used
his
daughter's
company
to
store
the
equipment.
However,
the
city
never
had
a
contract
with
three
rivers
billing.
So
as
part
of
the
agreement,
any
b
and
three
rivers
are
going
to
cooperate
with
central
square
the
cloud-based
operation
to
allow
the
transfer
of
all
of
the
data
from
2007
to
2019
the
raw
data
over
to
the
city.
The
city
is
going
to
purchase
a
license
from
central
square.
I
The
license
will
allow
us
to
actually
be
able
to
read
the
data,
as
was
explained
to
to
me:
it's
not
files
that
we
can
just
pull
off
a
drive
and
we're
going
to
have
nice
neat
files.
All
of
the
data
requires
a
specific
license
and
software
to
translate
it.
Also.
Three
rivers
billing
handles
ems
billing
for
multiple
jurisdictions
throughout
the
country
and
a
lot
of
the
date.
The
raw
data
we're
talking
numbers
and
letters
is
all
mixed
in
so
there's
has
to
be
a
separation.
I
The
city's
purchased
the
license
will
enable
us
to
extrapolate
the
data
that
transfer
will
also
render
three
rivers
unable
to
access
the
city's
data.
At
this
point
now,
the
city
will
be
able
to
control
its
records.
The
city
will
be
able
to
con
to
conduct
a
forensic
audit
of
the
ems
billing
data
from
2007
to
2019.
I
I
That
agreement
will
ensure
the
proper,
safe,
keeping
and
safeguarding
of
all
hipaa
private
material,
private
information
that's
held
by
and
that
can
be
accessed
by
three
rivers.
This
will
protect
the
city's
information
in
the
event
of
a
breach.
There
are
proper
safeguards
and
protocols
under
hipaa
that
will
ensure
that
the
data
is
secure
at
the
present
time.
Unfortunately,
because
there
is
no
contract
between
the
city
and
three
rivers,
god
forbid,
there's
a
data
breach
of
three
rivers
system.
I
The
city
will
then
have
to
undertake
certain
requirements
under
hipaa
to
protect
that
to
notify
folks
of
of
breaches
and
to
conduct
certain
certain
measures
by
putting
us
into
a
contract
with
three
rivers.
Now
we
have
those
protections
under
hipaa
for
that
data
that
three
rivers
may
be
able
to
access.
I
So
all
in
all
the
settlement,
I
believe,
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city.
The
matter
was
settled
to
go.
It
was
scheduled
to
go
to
a
jury
trial
in
april.
Jury
trials
are
unpredictable
creatures,
the
the
in
the
other
information
and
aspects
that
the
city
was
looking
for.
There
were
going
to
be
certain
aspects
which
I
believe
that
a
settlement
of
this
case
are
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
even
if
we
would
have
obtained
a
favorable
judgment.
I
There
are
questions
whether
the
city
would
have
been
able
to
obtain
what
it
sought,
both
from
david
sulik,
individually
and
neb,
and
the
link
between
the
city
and
three
rivers
was
tenuous
at
best
based
on
any
pod
part
of
the
allegations
that
were
that
were
drafted
by
my
predecessor.
So
I
believe
that
this
settlement
agreement
will
resolve
the
litigation
will
result
in
significant
savings
to
the
city
on
the
part
of
litigation
time
litigation
expenses
and
the
city
was
also.
I
There
was
potential
for
liability
on
a
part
of
attorney's
fees
for
either
party
we
could
have
obtained
our
attorney
sees,
but
if
certain
counts
did
not
prevail
in
our
way,
the
city
would
have
been
liable
for
nab
sulix
and
three
rivers
attorney's
fees
at
this
state.
This
will
resolve
the
litigation.
It
will
also
give
us
all
the
data
in
order
to
conduct
a
thorough
forensic
audit
of
the
information
to
uncover
any
potential
irregularities
of
concern
that
we
had
not
had
the
ability
to
do
so.
I
I
believe
that
that
bit
of
information
is
the
most
important
aspect
of
this
settlement,
and
that
is
actually
something
that
we
were
seeking
to
obtain
at
trial
and
we
were
able
to
obtain
it
as
part
of
our
settlement.
So
the
settlement
is
presented
to
you
for
your
approval.
If
you
approve
the
settlement,
the
matter
will
the
k,
the
litigation
and
the
case
will
be
will
be
dismissed
in
circuit
court
and
we
will
proceed
to
begin
to
implement
the
settlement
to
obtain
the
to
obtain
the
data.
So
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
Some.
I
C
C
D
C
U
C
C
I
If
three
rivers
intends
to
just
to
dispose
or
purge
the
information
once
we
have
full
access
to
it,
that
agreement
will
dictate
the
terms
of
the
proper
purging
of
that
information
and
hold
us,
and
we
will
be
able
to
have
that
contractual
relationship.
My
biggest
concern
is:
we've
never
had
a
contractual
relationship
with
three
rivers.
I
If
something
were
to
be
able
to
were
to
go
wrong
now
with
three
rivers,
we
have
some,
they
have
a
contractual
obligation
to
us
and
we
to
them
to
in
order
to
safeguard
the
information,
that's
that
is
possibly
out
there
in
the
cloud.
Okay,
the
other
thing,
my
biggest
concern
is
if
somebody
right
now
asks
for
makes
a
public
records
request
for
that
information
within
that
time
frame.
I
Our
contracts
dictate
the
terms
of
what
theirs
to
do
with
the
public
records
and
their
understanding
that
the
records
they're
holding
are
chapter
119
florida
statute,
public
records
and
that
there's
a
certain
proper
way
to
dispose
of
them
to
transfer
them
and
certain
obligations
right
now
we
don't
have
that
obligation.
We
don't
have
any
of
that
contractual
obligation
with
either
any
b
or
three
rivers.
A
I
am
100
sure
that
what
what
neb
did
was
there's
illegal
things
that
have
gone
on,
be
it
neb,
be
it
city,
employees,
former
city,
employees,
there
there's
money
that
should
have
come
the
city
of
apopka.
That
is
not
in
all
coffers.
We
went
from
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
within
eb
to
1.4
million
dollars
today,.
A
We've
had
we've
lost
enough
money
on
this
neb
to
pay
for
station
five
and
six
and
equipment
to
go
in
so
so
it
gives
us
the
ability
to
go
back
and
file
criminal
charges
against
people
within
this
organization
that
were
that
have
maybe
taken
money
on
the
side
from
neb,
and
I
just
want
everybody
to
understand
that
that
we
know
that
we
didn't
get
the
money
that
we're
supposed
to
get
either
by
ineptness
or
corruption
and
we're
going
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
it.
If
it's
all
possible.
I
And
I
believe
that
the
the
ability
to
obtain
all
of
the
data
from
2007
to
2019
and
to
provide
a
thorough
forensic
audit,
even
if
it
means
the
city,
has
to
hire
a
third
party
to
conduct
that
forensic
audit.
If
certain
irregularities
are
discovered
as
part
of
the
forensic
audit,
the
city
will
cooperate
for
start.
If
there's
any
potential
criminal
liability,
the
city
is
able
to
take
the
information
and
cooperate
with
the
u.s
attorney's
office
for
any
potential
prosecution.
I
Should
the
u.s
attorney's
office
seek
to
to
move
forward,
but
without
having
the
ability
to
actually
obtain
the
raw
data
and
then
and
then
audit
it
to
determine
whether,
even
if
there
was
certain
shenanigans
done
with
that
data,
something
that
the
the
information
and
documents
that
were
presented
to
us
as
part
of
the
litigation
were
incomplete.
We
were
given
hard
copies
of
documents
which
could
be
manipulated,
which
could
have
been
manipulated.
I
I'm
not
sure
the
the
dates,
but
if
there
is
actions
that
were
taken
within
the
time
frame
that
still
fall
within
the
statute
of
limitations,
there
is
still,
I
don't
know
what
the
criminal
stat.
I
don't
know
what
the
criminal
statute
of
limitations
or
what
the
federal
statute
of
limitations
is,
but
we,
if,
if
at
most
it's
five
years,
there's
still
a
window
within
that
time,
that
neb
was
still
our
provider
that
would
fall
within
that
that
area.
I
Potentially,
if
I've
had
these
five,
I
don't
know
what
the
statute.
I
don't
know
what
the
criminal
statute
of
limitations
is,
and
most
most
of
these
actions
have
at
least
a
five-year
statute
limitations.
For
I,
I
could
see
if
there's
a
longer
federal
statute
of
limitations
or
contact
the
u.s
attorney's
office.
I
I
And
if
we
were
able
to
obtain
the
license
for
one
year
and
within
that
one
year,
time
frame
actually
download
all
of
the
information
and
provide
it,
then
there's
a
possibility
that
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
renew
it,
because
because
it's
not
a
system
where
we're
inputting
new
data,
we're
going
to
use
our
that
license
to
to
basically
extract
as
much
data
as
possible
in
order
for
it
to
be
properly
stored
with
us.
Okay,.
D
A
Y
Y
On
up
dennis,
I
have
the
same
rights
as
every
citizen
in
this
city,
my
name's
dennis
new.
I
live
at
105
west
magnolia
street
in
the
city
of
apopka.
I'll,
give
you
a
quick
history.
I've
been
in
front
of
the
council
before
normally
it's
around
election
time,
because
a
man
that
used
to
be
a
city
councilman
had
a
vindictive
streak
and
would
file
anonymous
complaints
with
code
enforcement.
Y
Y
An
rfp
is
a
lot
like
an
opinion,
I'm
not
a
smart
person,
but
you
can
put
out
an
opinion
poll
and
make
it
worded
and
twisted
so
it'll
say
whatever
you
want
to
do.
You
can
put
out
an
rfp
that
can
eliminate
bidders
or
include
bidders
okay.
The
problem
that
I
have
is
in
reading
the
apopka
planner
in
chief,
the
rfp,
was
agreed
to
or
submitted
by
whatever
that
process
is
a
man
that
has
given
maximum
contributions
to
you,
mayor
nelson,
from
his
own
pocket
and
from
his
llc.
Y
So,
as
a
citizen
of
this
city,
I
come
before
the
board
to
ask
each
and
every
one
of
you
running
for
office
or
not.
If
you
get
campaign
contributions
from
somebody
that
has
an
interest
like
this,
you
should,
for
the
sake
of
transparency,
honesty,
dignity
and
ethics
exclude
yourself
from
any
vote
to
do
with
anybody
that
has
donated
to
your
campaign
or
that
you
have
had
personal
interaction
with
otherwise.
Y
I
will
file
a
complaint
with
the
state
of
florida
ethics
commission
and
see
where
it
goes.
If
I
find
criminal
intent,
I'm
not
stopping
with
the
chief
in
the
apopka
police
department,
I'm
going
to
the
florida
department
of
law
enforcement,
the
fbi
and
whoever
will
investigate
it.
There
is
corruption
afoot
and
the
people
of
this
city
are
catching
it
and
not
seeing
it,
and
it's
happening
on
more
than
just
one
occasion.
A
O
AC
AC
D
AJ
Good
evening,
council
is
a
mayor.
This
is
resolution
2022
regarding
the
2022
city
of
apopka
general
election
per
the
business
item
held
on
today's
agenda
for
the
orange
county
supervisor
of
elections.
2022
facility
use
agreement
intended
for
early
voting
at
the
apopka
community
center.
I
am
requesting
a
recommended
emotion
for
adopting
resolution
number
2022-02
and
the
amount
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
going
to
change
to
what
we
agree
this
afternoon
to
21
200,
which
is
option
number
20
number
two.
A
J
I'm
kind
of
lost
we've
been
here
so
long.
The
only
thing
I
just
want
to
say
was
that
you
know
it
was
an
honor
to
be
at
the
dr
martin
luther
king
jr
parade.
I
actually
was
kind
of
one
of
the
first
ones
to
go
out
on
the
parade,
so
that
was
a
great
honor
and
and
also
to
remind
people
that
we
have
the
saturday
sounds.
I'm
so
loyal
to
the
saturday
sounds.
B
B
B
O
Have
about
five
websites
that
all
have
to
do
with
3d
printed
homes?
We
actually
had
a
property
owner
on
the
south
side
of
apopka.
That
is
looking
to
bring
a
3d
printed
home,
possibly
to
apopka.
So
I
was
talking
with
them
about
a
year
ago
and
it's
got
some.
I
got
some
great
grass
and
I'll
send
the
lakes
to
yeah.
I
saw
the
art
it.
O
O
J
A
L
A
C
Nothing
to
add
just
echo
thoughts.
I
mean
the
the
weather
was
as
beautiful
as
the
people
and
and
the
and
the
purpose
that
we
celebrated
on
that
day.
So
it
was,
it
was
a
beautiful
day,
so
we
had
a
great
time
with
my
family
yeah,
but
it
was.
It
was
great,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
I
know
we're
we're
almost
burning
the
midnight
hour.
I
I'll
be
very
brief,
but
it's
that
time
of
the
year
I
will
be
preparing,
like
I
did
last
year,
a
legislative
summary
of
all
bills.
That'll
affect
local
government,
especially
with
a
few
of
the
doozies
that
are
coming
down
from
tallahassee,
so
I'll
be
repairing
those
when
the
session
ends
I'll
provide
you
with
a
report
like
I
did
last
year.
A
A
Real
yeah,
rick
gonzalez
who's,
a
real
estate
agent,
reached
out
to
me
a
couple
weeks
ago
about
the
gator
growers,
property,
which
happens
to
be
just
north
of
our
camp.
We
walk
and
you
got
the
letter
in
there
from
him
that
bonnie,
that's,
which
who's
the
widow
is
willing
to
sell
it
to
us
for
800
000.
A
You
know,
obviously
we
can
only
pay
appraised,
value
and
and
there's
all
obviously
some
issues
with
phase
we'll
need
to
do
a
phase
two
audit,
because
it
was
a
nursery
for
50
plus
years.
So
anyway,
I
all
I'm
looking
for
is.
Would
you
like
us
to
go
forward?
Is
it
just?
I
know
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
never
the
right
time.
AG
A
We
wish
it
stands
today,
because
you've
got
to
be
background,
checked
which
obviously
you'll
have
people
who
want
to
go
use
camp
weewa,
but
but
maybe
can't
because
they're
not
background
check
what
this
would
give.
You
is
because
it's
the
little
gap
if
you've
got
the
pink
you
can
see
where
keep
camp
weewa
starts,
is
where
that
that
little,
so
you
could
put
a
gate
there
and
when
summer
camps
are
running,
you
could
leave
the
gate
locked
and
keep
all.
You
know
non-credentialed
people
inside
this.
A
A
B
To
speak
out,
because
we
have
we
will
now
and
because
again,
you
couldn't
share
all
the
things
when
we
were
first
voting
on
it
that
might
have
moved
me.
I
think
this
would
be
worth
pursuing.
It
really
answers
what
you
had
brought
up
about
more
green
space
about
places
where
families
can
go
right.
I
think
it
really
fits
that
bill
and
to
have
that
portion
of
the
lake
there's
different
events
that
we
could
hold
there.
That,
I
think,
would
be
real
beneficial.
But
again,
it's
like,
I
say
worth
pursuing.
O
J
A
It
correct
all
I'm
looking
for
is
we
got
to
get
an
appraisal,
so
let's
say
the
appraisal
comes
back
at
600
and
and
the
family
says
no,
I'm
not
selling
it
for
600
or
it
comes
back
at
a
million
and
it's
like.
Oh,
we
can't
afford
it
we're
under
no
obligation
the
the
what
I'm
more
concerned
about
is
a
phase
two
audit
environmental
audit,
because
I'm
I'm
a
little
nervous
that
there
aren't
some
pesticides
that
are
buried
on
that
property.
That,
because.
J
R
A
A
A
J
Y
AC
J
A
A
J
A
V
J
C
A
B
C
U
D
L
A
A
A
Y
Z
C
A
J
A
A
C
N
If
it
helps
what
we
can
do
is,
if
you
guys
decide
to
do
the
appraisal,
we
can
do
the
appraisal.
We
can
bring
that
back
and
see
what
what
the
appraised
amount
is,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
as
you
said,
we
hardly
have.
We
never
pay
above
appraisal,
and
then
we
can
search
staff
can
search
for
types
of
funding
sources.
N
I
Actually,
if
I
could
advise,
I
feel
like
I
feel
more
comfortable,
because
this
has
come
up
during
a
non-uh.
I
mean
it's
outside
of
a
business
action.
Perhaps
it's
best
for
staff
to
come
back
and
either
present
make
a
presentation
showing
potential
funding
sources
for
you
to
evaluate
as
a
business
action,
and
then
at
that
time
you
can
vote
whether
or
not
you
want
to
proceed
with
a
first
step
which
would
be
obtaining
an
appraisal.
I
think
it's
more
comfortable
to
do
it
that
we'll
bring
it
back
at
a
subsequent
council
meeting.
A
A
J
A
H
A
Entries,
so
that
was
a
what
an
amazing
event
and
thank
you,
commissioner
smith,
for
your
your
help
there
as
well
a
pension,
our
prudential
pension
agreement.
We
had
a
prudential
overpaid,
some
of
our
employees
and
all
three
pension
funds,
the
police,
the
firefighters
and
the
general
employees
and
so
comes
the
tune
of
about
just
shy
of
ten
thousand
dollars,
and
they
were
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
claw
back
the
doc,
the
dollars
from
our
our
employees
or
our
our
pensioners.
And
I
said
no,
that's
not
going
to
happen.
W
A
Dollars
with
prudential,
I
think
you
can
figure
out
a
way
to
come
up
with
10
000
bucks,
so
they've
agreed.
We
got
an
agreement
from
prudential
that
they're
going
to
pay
all
the
basically
they're
just
eating
that
cost
and
then
going
forward.
The
the
pensioners
will
get
what's
the
correct
calculation,
so
won't
come
out
of
anybody's
pocket
other
than
prudential.
A
J
A
Free.
All
we
got
to
do
is
pay
for
the
you
know
the
artwork
to
put
in
the
boxes.
So
I
thought
it
was
a.
You
know,
really
generous
a
donation
from
molenex
to
help
us,
you
know,
put
you
know,
parks
and
rec
things
out
there,
whatever
we
want
to
put
to
put
on
those
boxes
for
for
our
constituents
to
see.
So
with
that,
we
will
call
it
a
night.