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Apopka City Council Special Budget Meeting at City Hall on September 16, 2020 at 6 PM.
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B
Let
us
pray
our
progress
once
more
again
that
we
come
before
your
presence
in
the
homeless
manner
that
we
know
how.
First
of
all
to
say.
Thank
you
for
what
you've
already
done
in
our
lives
and
for
what
you're
doing
right.
Now
we
ask
of
the
fathers
we
protect
this
budget
meeting
this
evening,
that
you
will
lead
us
guide
us
and
direct
us
in
the
way
that
you
have
us
to
go,
that
all
that
we
shall
say
and
do
will
be,
pleasing
and
acceptable.
B
A
C
All
right
good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioners,
so
this
is
our
final
budget
hearing
for
to
set
the
millage
rate,
the
final
millage
rate
and
adopt
a
final
budget
for
fiscal
year.
2021.
C
There
are
some
changes
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
that
we'll
talk
about
based
on
the
direction
that
that
I
received
from
from
the
council,
so
we'll
talk
about
the
budget
process
again,
really
quick
for
those
who,
who
are
maybe
new
tonight,
listening
we'll
go
over
the
budget
highlights
that
are
in
this
budget.
The
infrastructure
improvements,
major
capital
items,
substantial
items
that
we
have
excluded
or
that
were
excluded
during
this
budget
process,
an
overview
I'll
do
an
overview
at
the
end
and
then
we'll
have
time
for
questions
and
comments
and
direction.
C
So
the
budget
process
where
we've
started,
we
have
a
calendar
that
we
have
to
follow.
That
is
based
on
state
statutes,
called
the
trim
process.
Truth
and
millage
is
what
it
stands
for.
It
typically
begins.
In
march
or
april,
estimated
taxable
values
are
received
from
the
property
appraiser.
On
june.
The
1st
we
have
meetings
with
each
one
of
the
departments,
so
we've
been
through
this
whole
process.
We
started
way
back
in
march
and
april,
and
we've
met
with
all
the
departments
for
their
needs
and
concerns
for
our
as
we
prepare
our
2021
budget.
C
On
july
1st,
we
receive
the
certified
taxable
values
from
the
property
appraiser.
These
are
the
values
that
we
use,
that
that
we
apply
the
millage
rate
against
to
set
our
property
taxes,
the
public
workshops.
We
had
public
workshops
on
the
13th,
the
14th
and
the
15th
with
the
city
council
and
the
citizens.
C
C
C
This
was
advertised
in
the
orlando
sentinel,
based
on
the
trim
requirements.
So
all
the
advertisement
has
been
met
and
has
been
approved.
So
we
will
this.
This
budget
will
begin
on
october,
1,
2020.
C
The
city
tax
base,
increased
296
million
in
growth,
but
part
of
that
is
new
growth
and
part
of
that
is
is
just.
Is
the
growth
on
current
properties
keep
in
mind
that
residential
is
limited
to
three
percent?
It
has
a
three
percent
max,
so
that's
part
of
this
increase,
which
generated
an
additional
million
dollars
in
ad
valorem
revenues.
Just
from
the
increase
in
the
actual
values,
the
general
fund
is
balanced,
currently
using
471
000
a
little
more
than
471
thousand
dollars
keep
in
mind.
C
what
I've
done,
because
I
have
to
advertise.
I
had
to
advertise.
I
had
to
get
my
advertisement
into
the
paper
right
after
our
last
hearing,
so
I
didn't
have
much
time.
What
I
did
was
I
reduced
this
number
by
that
amount
as
a
holding
spot
until
we
come
to
tonight
to
find
out
where
we're
going
to
set
the
final
millage
rate,
so
that
is
just
basically
is
just
it's
kind
of
the
holding
spot
or
where
we've
placed
the
dollars
until
we
decide
exactly
where
we're
going
to
to
appropriate
them
tonight.
C
So
there
are
no
new
positions
in
the
budget,
but
there
are
also
no
eliminated
positions.
All
positions
that
were
funded
last
year
are
funded
in
the
current
year.
The
merit
pay,
the
employee
pay
for
merit
is
based
on
performance
and
it
has
a
pay
increase
of
up
to
three
percent
for
all
full
eligible
full-time
employees.
C
C
That's
pretty
significant,
as
I
said
at
the
first
public
hearing,
this
11.5
in
the
budget
that
was
would
have
passed
on
to
the
employees
for
their
dependent
coverage.
The
we
have
absorbed
that
for
the
employee,
so
that
is
included
in
the
city's
budget
as
part
of
the
city's
cost.
So
that
is
that's
a
significant
item,
the
property
casualty
and
workers
compensation
insurance
increased
by
eight
percent
in
this
budget
over
the
prior
year.
C
Some
other
highlights
sidewalk
repairs,
there's
money
for
sidewalk
repairs,
there's
money
for
contract
mowing.
As
you
know,
there's
the
speed
humps
program
that
is
funded.
There
are
some
lighting
and
some
funding
for
lighting
improvements,
street
sweeping
storm
water
and
storm
water
improvements
funding.
C
There
are
significant
infrastructure
dollars
for
water
wastewater
and
reclaimed
water.
In
this
budget,
garbage
rates,
as
you
know,
were
increased
a
couple
months
back.
We
increased
some
effective
october
one,
so
they
will
go
into
effect
october,
1
of
2020.,
three
percent
for
our
residential
customers
and
six
percent
for
our
commercial
customers.
C
You
have
harman
road
extension
design,
so
designing
the
harman
road
extension
project,
the
st
john's
river,
water
management,
district
site,
road
improvements
that
were
approved,
the
west
kelly
park,
road
capacity
and
safety
study.
As
we
move
forward
with
the
the
kelly
park
area,
the
peterson
road
and
king
street
improvements.
There's
funding
to
make
those
capital
improvements,
new
sidewalk
funding,
there's
money
in
here
for
new
sidewalks
storm
water
and
pipelining.
There's
funding
for
that
for
a
storm
water
system.
C
There
is
an
additional
restroom
facility,
an
ada
walkway
at
the
northwest
recreation
complex.
The
last
budget.
We
approved
one
one
bathroom
facility
at
our
one
of
our
ball
fields,
one
of
our
balls.
This
does
it
for
the
other
for
one
of
the
the
sites,
this
puts
another
one.
On
the
other
side,
the
grossenbacher
water
plant
well
upgrades.
This
is
the
compliance
issue
that
we
are
addressing.
C
Plymouth
regional
water
plant
well
upgrade
same
thing:
west
kelly
park,
road,
there's
a
16
inch
water
main
funded
in
here.
There
is
a
golden
gem
road,
16-inch
water,
main,
an
effie
drive,
16-inch
water
main
a
us-441
16-inch
water
main,
and
then
there
are
lift
station
upgrades
included
as
well
a
lot
of
infrastructure
improvements
in
the
kelly
park
area,
west
kelly
park,
road,
there's,
a
12
inch,
sewer,
main
golden
gem
reclaimed,
water
plant,
the
northwest
reclaimed,
water
transfer
pump
station
and
the
golden
gym.
30
inch,
reclaimed
water
main
keep
in
mind.
C
We
were
awarded
a
grant
for
this,
a
50
grant
with
the
state
and
with
the
st
john,
so
they're
paying
it's
a
four
million
dollar
project,
they're
paying
two
million
we're
paying
the
other
two
million.
These
are
impact
fee
projects.
So
I
think
that's
critical
to
to
keep
in
mind
too
that
these
come
from
the
impact
fee
dollars
some
major
capital
items.
There's
our
replacement
ambulance
every
year,
we're
doing
a
replacement
ambulance.
There's
brush
truck
pump
replacement.
C
There's
air
pack
replacement
program
that
we
have
initiated.
There
are
12
new
police
vehicles
funded.
There
are
various
computers,
laptops
and
and
desktops.
One
of
the
areas
is
part
of
this
is
desktops
and
our
dispatch
center
to
upgrade
some
of
those.
In
our
dispatch,
ada
compliance
funding,
there's
funding
for
ada
compliance
and
then
there's
funding
for
an
asset
management
software.
C
Some
other
items
that
are
significant:
you
have
the
community
center
vfw
flooring,
there's
additional
funding
for
florence
flooring
to
replace
the
flooring
at
the
community
center.
There's
ac
unit
replacements,
funding
for
ac
units.
We
have
some
that
are
getting
up
there
in
age.
We
have
a
fleet
service
truck.
If
you
recall,
that's
a
truck,
that's
been
around
forever
that
we're
finally
replacing
for
the
fleet.
This
is
the
one
they
take
when
they
go
out
on
site.
C
If
they
have
to
break
down
or
they
have
an
issue,
they
have
to
take
it
out
and
provide
service
they've
been
limping
along
with
that
truck.
So
this
is
I'm
well
overdue.
So-
and
this
is
again
was
one
of
those
significant
items
in
the
prior
year
that
we
didn't
fund
that
we've
been
able
to
fund
this
year,
there's
recreation
field,
equipment
and
mowers
for
the
northwest
recreation
for
our
athletic
fields.
C
C
Actually
this
one
yeah,
this
one
replaces
an
automated
side
load
truck
and
if
you
recall
there
was
another
truck
in
a
prior
year
and
this
current
year
that
we're
in
where
we
funded,
we
knew
we
would
have
funded
seventy
thousand
of
it.
There
was
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
portion
that
we
would
have
to
fund
in
this
coming
year,
so
there
are
really
two
trucks
funded
or
that
will
come
on
to
come
online
for
solid
waste
in
2021.
C
some
items
excluded
fire
station
6
is
not
included
in
here
the
fire
district
chief
position.
There
was
a
request
for
that.
It's
not.
It's
is
not
funded
the
additional
police
officers
that
were
talked
about
they're,
not
in
this
budget.
We
didn't
hear
a
word
that
we're
we
can
apply
for
the
cops
grant,
so
we
are
going
to
do
that.
The
chief
said
that
our
chances
are
pretty
pretty
good.
C
Some
neighboring
jurisdictions
were
kind
of
in
the
program
like
we
were
and
have
recently
applied
for
it
and
and
have
had
success.
So
the
the
only
thing
is,
they
won't
come
online
until
the
end
of
2021,
because
by
the
time
we
apply
and
receive
the
funding,
it
would
be
later
in
the
in
the
end
of
2021
or
the
beginning
of
the
2022
budget,
but
we
are
going
to
apply
for
that.
C
The
audio
video
city
council
chambers
that
is
not
funded
in
this
budget.
Again,
we
talk,
as
I
talked
about
in
the
primary
we're
looking
at
where
we
end
this
current
fiscal
year
to
see.
If
this
is
some
of
these
items,
we
can
include
with
those
dollars.
C
Computer
servers
are
some
computer
service
servers
that
have
that
are
not
funded
in
here
that
it
have
has
put
out
pushed
out
into
their
five-year
plan,
their
additional
fields
for
the
northwest
recreation
complex,
a
bathroom,
a
new
another
set
of
bathrooms
down
by
the
amphitheater,
was
an
item
that
is
not
included,
some
other
items:
a
storage
building
for
recreation,
the
cemetery
division,
as
you
know,
we're
having
a
storage
issue
and
we're
trying
to
address
that
as
well.
C
But
that
is
an
item
that
that,
unfortunately,
we
don't
have
included
a
new
building
for
fleet
and
streets
division.
They
need
a
new
facility,
so
these
are
items
that
we
will
continue
to
look
at
during
our
five-year
plan
and
we
will
be
looking
at
those
in
the
next.
In
the
next
budget
city
hall,
public
service
services,
fire
fiber
replacement
street
resurfacing.
C
There
is
street
resurfacing
a
very
small
amount
of
street
resurfacing
in
here.
So
it's
a
significant
item,
because
it's
not
it's
not
at
the
current
level
that
we
that
we
have
been
funding
and
then
border
lake
flooding
issue.
You
know
we
have
an
issue.
There.
We've
been
working
with
our
partners
we're
trying
to
to
come
up
with
a
plan
for
the
border
lake
flooding.
That
item
is
not
included
so
budget
overview.
C
E
C
So
this
is
a
little
tough
to
see,
but
I
want
to
go
over
the
lines.
I
think
it's
a
little
better
to
see
on
the
live
feed
than
it
is
here
in
the
in
the
council
chambers,
but
there
are
copies
also
on
the
table.
For
for
those
who
want
to
see
it
need
a
copy,
but
I
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight
that
that
you
can
see
overall,
the
city's
budget
is
balanced
at
105
million
dollars.
C
Last
year
it
was
almost
99
million
dollars,
so
you
have
a
6.1
percent
increase
from
the
prior
year
or
about
six
million
dollars
more
your
property
tax
revenue,
the
property
tax
number
is
up
14.4
percent
over
the
prior
year.
This
does
include
the
current
.25
mill
that
was
set
at
the
tentative
budget
hearing
so
and-
and
so
you
can
see
through
some
of
these
numbers
and
again,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
every
number
tonight,
but
I
want
to
kind
of
point
out
the
significant
numbers
you
can
see.
C
C
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
impact
fees
you
see
impact
fees
are
slightly
up
a
little
bit
over
the
prior
year,
again
they're
kind
of
kind
of
watching
what's
happening
or
whatever.
We
think
that
that
that
this
is
a
good
number
going
forward.
The
two
million
dollar
grant
I
spoke
about
is
significant.
C
I
think,
if
you
look
here
you'll
see.
Last
year
we
had
500
000.
That
is
the
grant
that
funds
those
those
those
capital
projects
that
I
talked
about
in
the
utility
side
of
the
of
the
the
budget,
and
then
you
see
a
13.9
million
dollar
reserve
number.
The
majority
of
that
reserve
is
the
utility
impact
fees
comes
from
utility
impact
fee
fund.
C
C
It's
the
same
number
that
it
was
in
the
in
the
prior
meeting,
keep
in
mind,
like
I
said
earlier,
we
reduced
the
the
amount
that
we
were
taking
from
the
reserves
until
we've
decided,
where
or
if
we're
going
to
use
those
additional,
the
additional
millage
rate
or
the
the
0.125.
Where
we're
going
to
to
place
those
the
streets
fund,
you
can
see,
is
dap
whoops.
C
The
streets
fund
you
can
see
is
down
20
percent.
As
I
said,
the
in
the
last
meeting,
the
sales
tax
or
the
gas
tax
is
down
eleven
percent.
We
have
a
landfill
host
fee
that
we're
working
with
trying
to
it
was
about
225
000
that
the
agreement
has
expired,
but
we're
working
to
see.
If
we
can't
continue
that
agreement,
we
feel
pretty
confident,
but
we
don't
have
it.
We
don't
have
it
black
and
white.
C
Yet
so
so
you
can
see,
there's
been
a
big
reduction
there,
that's
one
of
the
biggest
reductions
and
then,
if
you
look
down
to
some
of
these
are
smaller.
These
funds
are
smaller
funds.
A
lot
of
these,
these
law
enforcement
trust
funds
and
police
discretionary
funds.
They
come
back
to
council,
so
you
don't
see
a
lot
of
increase
or
change
there.
C
You
can
see
that
storm
water
is
similar
to
that.
It
was
the
year
before
and
community
the
utility
operations
is
significant.
It's
not
a
very
big
increase,
a
little
less
than
two
percent
again
we're
under
current
rate
study.
C
So
there
is
no
no
increase
from
from
the
rate
study,
because
the
rate
study
ended
and
we're
currently
under
review
now
for
a
rate
study
there,
as
is
storm
water,
we're
also
under
a
rate
study
in
the
storm
water
for
the
stormwater
program
as
well
impact
fees.
You
saw
the
impact
fee,
so
this
is
why
the
budget
basically
is
up.
Over
the
prior
year
significantly,
we
were
at
9
million
and
we're
going
to
13
million.
C
So
and
again,
the
majority
of
that
is
using
the
reserves
for
those
projects
in
that
kelly
park
area.
That's
where
the
majority
of
that's
all
capital
improvements,
sanitation
fund
is
up
12.
Overall
again,
if
you
recall,
we
added
two
people
a
couple
months
back
or
whatever.
I
think
it
was
a
couple
months
back.
We
added
a
couple
people
to
the
sanitation
fund
and
when
we
had
the
rate
increase
to
be
able
to
give
relief
to
to
some
of
our
drivers
and
also
for
our
growth
and
our
sanitation,
division
or
department
division,
because
their
division.
C
You
can
see
the
revenues
property
tax
represents
about
15
percent
of
the
pie.
Of
this
again,
keep
in
mind.
This
is
total
city.
This
is
all
these
are
all
dollars.
Charges
for
services
represent
about
28,
those
are
ambulance,
fees,
utility
fees,
solid
waste
fees
or
sanitation
fees,
intergovernmental
represents
11
percent
of
the
pie.
C
C
C
C
That's
because,
as
we
continue
to
pay
pay
the
debt
down,
that's
a
small
that
is
a
small
increase.
I
mean
a
small
decrease.
Sorry,
no
contributions.
This
year,
you
might
ask
where
that
came
from
contributions
were
recorded.
When
we
had
the
city
center,
there
were
some
improvements
we
made
to
fdot's
road.
They
are
not
our
assets,
so
they're
considered
contributions
and
not
capital
transfers
are
down
a
slight
amount
again.
This
is
due
to
sales
tax.
C
We
have
a
reduction
in
state
revenue
sales
to
our
shared
sales
tax
that
affects
our
streets
fund,
because
a
portion
of
that
has
to
be
transferred
to
the
streets
fund,
to
fund
streets
projects
or
streets
function,
and
then
you'll
see
contingency
of
440
thousand
dollars
that
those
are
dollars
from
the
police
and
fire
impact
fee
funds
that
are
going
into
reserves
for
future
infrastructure
and
capital
projects.
C
So,
on
the
other
side,
the
where
the
dollars
by
function,
general
government,
you
can
see
is-
is
7.8
percent.
Most
of
that
increase
is
due
to
insurance.
C
Community
development
has
a
slight
smaller
decrease.
Transportation
has
a
decrease
again,
that's
because
of
the
streets
and
the
streets
fund.
Public
safety
is
up
almost
four
percent
or
3.8
percent
at
31
million
dollars.
Public
services
is
a
is
a
decrease
again,
and
then
you
see
culture
and
recreation.
That's
because
we've
moved
that
grounds
function
so
as
you're
up
30
or
you're
down
31
here,
but
you're
up
29.
Here,
we've
moved
that
function
to
to
parks
and
rack
storm
water.
C
C
So
again,
the
transfers
that
we
have
from
utility
funds
to
the
general
fund.
We
have
left
those
the
same
for
the
last
three
years
as
we
have
because
we're
having
a
study,
as
you
know,
performed
on
those,
and
we
will
have
that
information
when
it
comes
back
and
we
will
know
what
that
number
really
is
made
up
of
and
how
that
number,
what
that
number
should
be
and
how
going
forward
that
number
will
be
treated.
C
You
know
I
wish
I
could
tell
you,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
know,
because
I
don't
know
what
all
they
will
include
in
that
number.
That
number
is
made
up
of
the
administrative
costs
that
we're
providing
to
them
and
so
they're
they've
taken
all
of
our
data
man
hours
and
vehicles
and
they've
gathered
all
kinds
of
data
to
come
back
with
a
number,
and
then
sometimes
you
see
in
here
some
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes.
C
You
know
the
utility
fund
doesn't
pay
taxes
because
they
are
a
government
utility.
You
see
some
numbers
in
there
and
things
like
that.
So
I
don't
know,
commissioner,
I'm
hoping
I
will
tell
you
two
years
ago.
I
thought
it
was
too
high,
based
on
what
I've
seen
when
you
look
at
the
total.
You
know
fund
the
dollars
coming
into
the
fund
and
the
amount
that
should
be
that
that
would
be
transferred
out
it's
a
pretty
high
number,
but
they
will
tell
us
what
how
that
number.
A
C
So
so
the
utility
system,
you
can
see
it's
up,
20
percent.
Again,
that's
impact
fees.
We
have
a
lot
more
impact
fee
projects.
Utility
system
here
includes
the
operating
fund
and
the
impact
fees
airports
the
same
as
you
know,
keeping
it
the
same
monitoring
that
we
plan
to
list
that
for
sale
in
the
near
future,
and
you
will
be
that
will
be
that
will
be
brought
to
you.
C
Sanitation
is
up
14
again.
This
is
the
expense
side
from
the
revenue
side.
This
increases
due
to
the
increase
that
you've
increased
in
rates,
increasing
growth,
and
then
the
reserves
are
440.
again
we're
putting
the
440
in
reserves
from
the
police
and
fire
impact
fees,
as
we,
you
know,
build
those
reserves
for
future
projects
related
to
police
and
fire.
C
So
where
does
the
money
go?
You
can
see
personnel
our
personnel
services,
our
valuable
employees
are
44
of
the
total
bot
pie
that
when
you
look
at
the
total
budget,
23
goes
to
go
to
operating
for
the
operating
expenses.
C
18
is
capital
outlay.
Debt
service
represents
about
seven
percent.
Contributions
are
zero.
This
year,
transfers
represent
seven
percent
and
contingency,
which
is
the
dollars
that
we're
putting
back
in
the
impact
fee
fund,
is
a
one
percent
by
function.
Public
safety
again
keep
in
mind.
This
is
total
budget.
Thirty
percent
of
the
of
the
total
city
budget
goes
to
public
safety.
24
goes
to
the
utility
services,
sanitation
represents
about
five
percent
and
I'm
sorry,
yeah
transportation
is
about
five
percent.
Sanitation
is
five
percent,
so
culture
and
recreation
represents
about
five
percent
as
well.
C
Okay,
so
we
went
through
the
city-wide
revenues
and
expenditures
real
quick.
I
want
to
go
through
the
general
fund
side.
This
is
the
of
course,
the
main
fund
of
the
city.
You
can
see.
The
taxes
in
that
fund
represent
almost
41
percent
of
the
general
fund
licenses
and
permit
12
percent
intergovernmental
revenues.
20
percent.
This
is
the
sales
tax
number.
So,
together
the
taxes
and
the
intergovernmental
revenues
represent
over
60
percent
of
the
budget
charges
for
services.
C
Seven
percent
again:
this
is
your
the
charges
for
the
services
we
provide
like
the
ems,
billing
and
and
charges
and
things
of
that
nature.
Fines
and
forfeiture
are
a
small
portion,
one
percent.
C
C
So
where
do
the
dollars
go?
Public
safety?
Almost
60
of
the
budget
of
the
general
fund
budget,
goes
to
public
safety,
community
development,
little
less
than
five
percent
recreation.
Almost
ten
percent
public
services
a
little
more
than
four
percent,
almost
six
percent
is
debt
service
and
then
transfer
to
other
funds
is
one
percent
and
keep
in
mind.
That
is
the
transfer
that
we
have
to
make
to
the
streets
fund,
administration,
13
and
then
financial
services
is
2,
so
that
can
you
can
see
where
the
dollars
go.
C
So
I
told
you
the
last
meeting
I
was
going
to
kind
of
kind
of
give
you
some
information
on
what
we've
done.
I
know
resurfacing.
Streets
is
an
area
where
we've
been
hit
the
hardest.
It's
always
toughest
the
toughest
fun
and
has
been
for
the
years
that
I've
worked
in
budgeting.
It's
always
seems
to
be
the
toughest
fun
because
gas
tax
don't
usually
stay
up
with
the
needs
of
our
improvements
and
infrastructure
of
our
roads.
C
C
C
Sidewalk
repairs:
we
have
done
a
lot
of
sidewalk
repairs
and
you
know
I
want
to
thank
the
public
services
staff.
We've
contracted
out
a
lot
of
this
too,
but
we've
done
a
lot
of
sidewalk
repairs.
We
had
a
backlog
of
sidewalk
work
orders
and
you
can
see
in
the
last
two
years
we've
done
almost
250
000
in
sidewalk
repairs
street
resurfacing
fund
all
over
the
chart.
When
you
look
at
this
so
there's
some
years,
we
didn't
do
any
again.
It's
a
funding
thing.
It's
definitely
a
funding.
You
know
issue
18.
C
We
had
a
significant
amount
that
we've
done
and
currently,
as
you
know,
we're
doing
another
significant
800
000
worth
of
street
resurfacing
that
we
cur
that
we
budget
the
2020
budget
and
that's
currently
underway.
So
you
can
see
this
is
an
area
where
and
again
this
fund
doesn't
have
the
funding
to
keep
up
to
do
resurfacing.
This
of
this
nature
every
year,
it's
just
not
possible
with
the
dollars
that
we
have
so
and
does.
C
This
does
not
I'm
getting
I'm
going
to
get
to
that
side.
This
is
where
we
currently
sit
today,
so
some
additional
uses
of
that
455
000
that
we
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting,
which
is
the
eighth
of
a
mill
increase
that
we
talked
about
or
that
we
set
when
you
set
the
tentative
millage
rate.
So
it's
about
two
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
we
got
with
public
works.
He
got
a.
He
got.
Jeff
got
us.
C
C
So
this
would
allow
us
to
take
and
put
that
contract
mowing
out
to
the
vendor
and
have
them
do
the
mowing
and
let
our
guys
do
the
finished
work.
The
detail
work,
the
finished
work.
So
what
we?
What
a
proposal
that
we
would
make
if
we
were
to
go
this
route
is
that
we
would
transfer
two
of
those
streets
positions
to
because
some
of
our
streets
that
are
mowing
now
that
currently
they
would
still
no
retention
ponds.
C
C
We
need
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
then
we
have
a
couple
other
little
roads
here
and
there
that
that
our
guys
would
keep
as
we
discover,
we've
discovered
a
few
more
roads
that
are
ours
that
we
need
to
maintain,
but
we
would
transfer
two
of
the
streets
positions
to
the
grounds
to
be
able
to
help
ground
with
all
the
detail,
work
at
our
facilities
and
our
grounds
in
our
grounds
area
and
again
together.
That
would
be
your
455,
where
your
455
000
would
go.
C
So
that's
that's
kind
of
where
we
are.
I
can
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
or
any
comments
that
you
have
again
it's
you
know
it's
just
a
matter
of
where
we
want
to
do.
We
want
to
put
those
dollars,
and
these
are
two
of
the
areas
where
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
and
a
lot
of
talk.
So
I
think
this
is
a
proposal
that
gives
you
that,
but-
and
I
do
want
to
say
this
before
we
finish-
I
want
to
thank
the
staff.
C
C
I
think
the
budget
that
you
have
before
you
is
a
great
budget
to
do
what
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
continue
to
provide
the
high
service
level
that
we
provide
in
our
public
safety
from
our
utilities,
sanitation,
we're
making
those
capital
improvements
that
we
need
to
make
in
the
kelly
park
area
that
we
call
it
because,
as
we've
as
you
know,
we
are
you
know,
moving
forward,
there's
a
lot
of
growth
in
that
area,
and
we
need
to
be
ready
for
that.
C
So
I
think
the
budget
is
is
a
good
budget.
I
think
it
you
know
it
will
do
the
things
that
we
need
to
do.
Is
it
everything
we
want?
No,
is
it
all
of
our
wish
list?
No,
but
I
think
staff,
I
know,
staff
has
done
a
really
good
job
and
they
can
can
provide
the
service
levels
that
our
citizens
are
used
to.
With
this.
E
E
C
E
E
C
Only
the
only
thing,
the
difference,
the
only
thing
is
there
will
be
a
portion
that
will
stay
in
the
general
fund,
because
that's
where
the
detail
grounds
work
is
done
on
facilities,
maintaining
the
facilities
and
keeping
them
up
so
there'll
be
a
portion
of
that
that
will
that
will
come
back
to
the
general
fund,
but
you're
correct
the
first
initial.
All
of
it
goes
to
streets
fund
and
then,
whatever.
E
Right
because,
like
we
just
discussed
on
monday,
when
we
set
the
budget,
I'm
basically
buying
an
outcome
from
staff
right
and
we
discussed
it
at
length.
The
last
meeting
is,
you
know:
beautification
wise
mowing
schedules
trimming
around
the
edges
of
trees
or
the
bases
of
trees.
So
you
don't
have
this.
You
know
like
the
pictures
that
I
showed
last
week,
but
that's
our
expectation
right
as
these
monies
go
there
and
we're
not
getting
calls.
E
You
know
about
mowing
being
kept
up
or
questioning
about
why
this
area
of
the
of
the
city
is
not
being
mowed
and
it's
just
back
and
forth.
Oh
that's
county
note
city,
it's
counting
we're
on
top
of
those
things
and
then
from
potholes
patchwork,
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
That's
the
outcome
that
I'm
expecting
when
we
set
the
budget
like
we're
going
to
today
and
that's
a
general
head
nod
and
I
I
think
we're
aligned
there.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
verbally,
where
that's,
what
we're
committing
to
absolutely.
C
Well-
and
I
can
say,
I
can't
guarantee
you
that
every
pothole
will
be
fixed
and
every
sidewalk
will
be
perfectly
aligned,
but
I
can
say
this
with
these
additional
funds.
We
can
put
those
funds
towards
those
areas
that
we've
been
having
issues
with.
I
will
tell
you
that
I
am
proud
to
say
that
this
last
six
months,
we've
put
the
right
people
in
the
right
places
and
we've
seen
a
significant
improvement
in
some
of
those
areas,
because
a
lot
of
it
wasn't
and
you,
as
you
know,
we
didn't
have
programs
in
place.
C
C
We
need
potholes,
we
need,
you
know
we
were
like
sidewalks,
we
got
backlogged
in
sidewalks,
we
caught
them
up,
but
they
put
up.
I
think
you
know.
Jeff
has
been
a
great
hire
and
I
think
you
know
he's
already
started
with
those
programs
and
putting
those
in
place,
and
I
think
that's
the
key.
Get
the
programs
in
place
so
that
we
stay
with
the
program
these
dollars
would
help
with
those
programs
absolutely.
E
Right
and
for
the
people
for
the
purposes
of
people
watching
I
mean
the
street
funds
handles
street
signs.
Sidewalks
road
resurfacing,
this
right-of-way
mowing
schedule.
All
of
this
stuff
is
buried
within
that
budget.
So
you
know,
like
you,
said
before,
just
not
possible
with
the
funds
that
we
have
right
now,
but
we
can't.
We
can't
see
that
that
ebb
and
flow
in
that
budget
we've
got
to
continually
work
on
these
things,
or
else
we're
going
to
fall
so
far
behind
that
we're
going
to
just
sink
so
much
money
into
it
long
term.
C
And
that
and
that,
and
to
that
point
that's
why
we've
also
addressed
some
of
these
long-term
costs
or
problems
that
we've
had
used
up
with
the
street
lighting.
That
will
help,
so
those
dollars
will
be
able
to
free
up
some
of
those,
those
dollars
that
we
have
in
there
to
put
towards
those
items,
and
then
the
street
lighting
would
would
actually
pay
for
them.
They
would
pay
for
themselves
through
those
assessments
right.
E
Because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
don't
want
to
wake
up
on
saturday
and
have
to
go
weed
whack,
a
media
myself
or
other
people
that
that's
not
their
role
within
the
city.
Having
to
you
know,
offset
mowing
schedules
things
like
that,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
funded
you
all
enough
to
take
care
of
the
things
that
they
should
be
taking
care
of.
A
E
F
E
You
know
because
and
just
on
full
transparency
I
mean
where
I
sit
as
a
commissioner,
I
would
say
98
of
my
emails-
and
maybe
probably
99.98
of
my
emails-
are
really
about
beautification.
Keeping
on
top
of
these
things,
hardly
do
I
ever
get
hey.
You
know
when
the
article
was
written
last
week
about
you
know,
potentially
raising
our
tax
rate.
It's
not
well.
You
can't
raise
the
tax
rate,
it's
more,
I'm
not
getting
the
services
that
I
expect
my
city
to
be
performing
for
me.
E
So
that's
where
my
mindset
is
in
terms
of
whatever
direction
that
we
go
this
evening.
Last
question
that
I
have
because
I
see
it
on
here
in
terms
of
the
hr
director
position.
You
know
I've
gotten
some
emails
lately
about
hr
type
of
issues.
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
if
this
budget's
passed,
the
hr
director
position's
in
there
and
there's
no
current
posting
for
that
position
now
on
our
website,
that
that
would
be
posted
immediately
to
try
and
get
that
position
filled.
C
C
The
plan
that
I
have
in
place
for
that
I
wanted
to.
I
want
to
sit
down
with
each
one
of
you
and
go
over
the
issues
and
things
that
I've
had
so
that
you'll
be.
I
want
you
to
have
all
the
information,
the
correct
information
to
that.
So
I
want
to
I'm
going
to
be
sitting
down
with
you
and
explaining
that
to
you,
but
those
positions
and
the
budget
is
funded
for
that
position
in
that
department.
Yes,
okay,.
C
C
Your
capital
projects
are
the
only
items
usually,
and
I
will
give
you
the
exception,
your
capital
projects
or
outlay
projects.
You
establish
that
project.
You
establish
a
dollar
for
it.
It
comes
forward
until
that
project
is
completed,
so
those
capital
dollars
will
continue
to
come
forward
until
the
project
is,
is
completed
or
done,
for
example,
if
there's
still
some
kind
of
a
an
item
that
still
needs
to
be
done
on
the
parking
lot
here
next
door
on
5th
street.
C
Any
dollars
that
are
left
over
because
they
may
not
finish
until
october
of
next
year
will
bring
those
dollars
forward.
So
those
are
coming
forward.
But
as
far
as
operating
and
personnel
costs
those
don't
come
forward.
We
establish
a
new
budget
for
your
personal
and
operating
going
forward,
which
is
what
you're
doing
tonight,
with
the
exception
of.
C
If
we
have
a
contract,
if
you've
approved
a
contract
with
somebody
and
it
runs
it
need
it
runs
over
a
month
or
two
or
there's,
they
haven't
finished
a
contract,
whether
it
be
professional
services
or
something
of
that
nature,
that
that
amount
would
come
forward
to
complete
that
contract
that
you
approved.
But
everything
else
stays,
and
it
goes
back
in
the
pot
or
goes
back
into
the
reserves.
And
then
you
reallocate
your
new
budget.
C
Does
that
show
any
place
that
does
not
show
in
this
budget
your
kafir,
you
there,
I
think,
in
your
cafe,
there's
a
place
in
your
cafe.
I
think
where
it
will
show
you
can
see
that
your
budget,
to
actual
so
you'll,
be
able
to
see
them
budget
to
actual
in
the
cafe
when
the
year
is
done
and
they
roll
everything
together
and
do
the
audit
you'll
be
able
to
see
what
was
budgeted
and
what
was
actually
spent
and
you'll
be
able
to
see
the
dollars
that
were
left
on
the
table.
B
F
And
also,
commissioner,
I
bring
before
you
a
budget
amendment
last
year.
It
was
in
january
for
all
funds
that
were
rolled
over
from
the
previous
year.
If
you
remember
it
was
a
huge
budget
amendment
like
eight
million
dollars,
because
it
had
a
lot
of
capital
projects
that
in
funding
in
our
contracts
that
were
rolled.
A
A
B
Okay,
and
so
so
likewise,
then,
some
of
the
positions
that
we're
budgeting
now
that
are
not
filled
now
would
also
be
showing
us
the
savings
and
go
back
and
create
a
catheter.
Okay.
All
right-
and
my
next
question
is-
is
that
when
I
looked
at
the
budget
for
the
ground
maintenance
department,
it
showed
that
last
year
they
had
nine
positions
and
in
2021
it
shows
five,
and
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
if
we're
trying
to
improve
grounds,
how
do
we
go
from
nine
to
five
so.
C
Commissioner,
in
in
the
beginning,
when
I
talked
about
that,
we
moved
grounds
to
parks
and
rec
grounds
and
streets
were
kind
of
together,
and
so
they
were
all
they're
all
in
one
and
what
we
did
was
we
sat
down
and
we
talked
to
brian's
group
and
what
we
did
was
we
took
of
those
all
of
those
individuals
that
were
in
streets
and
grounds.
If
you
call
it,
we
decide,
we
went
through
each
one
of
them
and
picked
out
which
part
they
did
this.
This
person
did
grounds.
C
This
person
does
grounds
I
did
streets,
so
we
did
we,
we
got
it
correct.
We
got
our
people
and
the
right.
Basically,
if
you
will
in
the
right
funds,
because
we
had
them
all
together,
so
we
pulled
the
grounds
people
out
and
we
sat
down
with
with
streets
and
recreation
and
they
decided
on.
These
are
the
positions
that
currently
do
grounds.
We
move
those
five
over
there
and
then
the
others
stayed
in
the
streets.
C
F
B
All
right
when
we
met
earlier,
we
talked
about
the
signs
at
the
entrance
of
the
city.
Is
that
still
something
that's
going
to
be
redone
through
this
budget
or
no?
It's.
C
Not
in
this
budget,
commissioner,
but
but
I
want
to
go
back
and
look,
I
know
there
was
some
talk
in
prior
years
about
street
signs
entrance
signs.
I
want
to
kind
of
go
back
and
see
what
you
know
that
that
plan
or
whatever
and
look
through
that
and
kind
of
that
would
be
something
we
would
bring
back
to
you.
It's
not
in
this
budget.
We
don't
know
what
those
costs
are
we
haven't.
We'd
have
to
look
at
how
it's
been
designed.
We
also
look
at
where
we
can
place
them.
C
You
have
to
be
careful.
You
can't
place
them
on
fdots
right
away.
You
can't
place
them
and
see
us.
Csx
is
sometimes
very
difficult
to
get
things
placed
in
their
right
of
ways,
but
we'd
have
to
figure
out
locations,
design
and
costs,
and
then
we
can
address
that,
but
that
is
one
of
the
things
yeah
we're
gonna.
B
Right
and
were
you
able
to
get
with
recreation
about
some
additional
activities
for
a
senior
popular.
C
Absolutely
commissioner,
excited
about
that
brian
I
talked
about
that
a
couple
times.
I
think,
since
I
talked
to
you
actually
one
today,
we
talked
we
talked
about
it
today
as
well,
but
we
have
funding.
We've
got
funding
in
our
current
budget
without
without
this
additional
increase,
so
that
I
don't
want
you
to
think
this
increases.
Does
that,
but
there's
a
there
is
funding
for
our
senior,
but
there's
funding
for
a
lot
of
our
programs
and
recreation.
We
just
need
to
be
able
to
have
our
programs.
C
We
need
to
be
able
to
have
more
than
10
or
50
people
together
until
we
can.
You
know
that
we're
kind
of
waiting
on
that
sign
once
we
get
that
we
have
the
funding
to
do
those
programs
and,
as
I
talked
to
you
and
I
got
with
brian,
I
said
we
need
to
reach
out
to
our
seniors
and
see
what
they
would
like.
What
would
you
like
what
what
kind
of
activities?
What
things
would
you
like,
that
we
can
build
into
those
programs,
but
there
is
funding
to
do
those
programs,
okay,.
B
C
We
do
not,
as
of
as
of
today,
I
will
tell
you
the
positions
funded
it's
in
there,
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we'll
need
to
we'll.
You
know
we
get
with
the
chief
and
talk
about
you
know
that
position
and
and
how
we
want
to
what
we
want
to
do
with
that
position.
But
the
position
is
in
there
and
there
is
funding
you
know
if
we
wanted
to
move
that,
because
if
we
wanted
to
move
on
that
position,
it's
in
there.
B
And
and
you
you
did
address
the
four
police
officers
in
reference
to
the
grant
and
he
said
the
chief
says
that
there's
a
good
possibility.
We're
going
to
get
that.
C
Yes,
it's
a
good
possibility.
He
and
I
talked-
and
he
says,
there's
a
good
possibility.
It's
just,
we
probably
won't
know
until
the
end
of
our
21
fiscal
year,
but
we
will
be
applying
for
that
as
soon
as
soon
as
we
can
so.
A
Yeah,
I
think
orange
county
was
on
the
same
track
as
us,
and
they
already
got
funded
this
year.
We,
you
know
we
probably
we
could
have
probably
applied,
didn't
think
that
that
was
a
possibility,
but
so
they
got
it
quicker
than
we
thought,
and
so
that
would
lead
you
to
believe
where
we
can
get
that
cops
grant,
which
you
know
pays
the
100
percent
of
the
officer's
salary.
So
then
all
we
have
to
do
is
come
up
with
the
equipment
in
the
car,
so
it's
a
for
the
first
year.
A
D
Okay,
basically,
I
really
tried
to
get
a
feel
of
what
does
our
boss
want?
D
Being
the
people
which
is
pretty
challenging
when
you
have
53
000
bosses,
and
you
know
again
the
response
that
I've
gotten
it's
it's
kind
of
the
mixed
bag,
it's,
but
the
biggest
response
was
what
I
termed
curb
appeal
and
to
me
it's
something
that
the
people
themselves
want
to
see,
but
I
think
it
also
to
me
is
something
that
lends
itself
towards
revenue
production,
because
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
draw
the
growth
that
we
want
to
see
without
those
things
being
taken
care
of.
D
So
for
me,
I
just,
I
still
think
that's
an
important
thing.
The
other
half
of
that
is
we're.
Looking
at
this
increase
every
response
that
I
got
and
I
asked
you
know,
please
respond
every
response
that
I
got
was
negative
on
raising
that
in
the
past
I've
had
different
ones.
That
have
said
hey,
we
don't
mind
it
coming
up,
so
it's
like
well
on
one
hand
we're
needing
to
have
the
level
of
service.
You
know,
as
commissioner
becker
said,
that's
what
I
agree
and
that's
what
the
people
are
wanting.
So
we
need
to
do
that.
D
D
I
agree
that
we
need
to
have
a
plan
and
then
work
the
plan.
So
the
study,
I
think,
is
important
for
me
again
statistically
and
why
I
asked
that
question
specifically,
we
are
already
putting
in
a
significant
portion
towards
streets.
Does
that
cover
them
all?
No,
but
again,
even
with
the
extra
it's
not
covering
everything
as
well.
I
guess
I'm
more
comfortable
when
it
comes
to
that
approach
is
looking
at.
Let's
fund
the
study,
let's
get
that
in
place
and
then
at
that
point
I
am
comfortable
as
I've
stated
before
again.
D
Everyone
knows
I
want
our
reserves
healthy
if
we
get
there
so
that
we're
not
pennywise
pound
foolish.
If
we've
got
something
that's
going
to
cost
us,
because
we
wait,
I'm
willing
at
that
point
to
say,
okay,
if
we
need
to
dip
into
that
at
that
point-
and
you
know
utilize
some
of
that
to
get
us
through
to
the
next
budget,
then
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
bridge
that
because
we
are
putting
already
significant
funds
towards
streets.
D
So
I
guess
that's
that
that's
the
side
that
I'm
wrestling
with
with
with
our
boss,
saying
we
want
this,
I'm
comfortable
doing
that,
even
though
it
is
going
to
cost
some
more,
but
the
response
that
I've
gotten
and
maybe
you
all-
have
gotten
different
responses,
but
that
at
the
same
time,
because
so
many
are
suffering.
I
think
this
is
a
difficult
year
to
take
too
much
of
a
bite
out
of
that.
D
So
to
me
finding
that
that
happy
medium
as
we
approach
that
and
we
have
a
clear
plan-
I
I
am
not
opposed
at
that
point.
If
there's
some
necessities
that
we
say
if
we
don't
deal
with
this,
it
is
going
to
put
us
behind
if
we
need
to
dip
a
little
bit
more
into
those
reserves.
At
that
point
get
through
to
that
next
year,
but
again,
that's
that
thin
line
too,
because,
as
as
you've
said
and
as
we
know,
we
will
still
see
the
trailing
effect
of
the
things
that
we
face
this
year.
D
So
I
would
propose
that
we
maybe
look
at
a
a
balanced
going
forward.
It
gets,
as
you
said,
the
same
responses
that
I've
been
getting.
We
can't
talk
until
we're
here
is
that
that
that
curb
appeal,
the
mowing,
the
the
sharpness
things
looking
sharp
so
that
when
they
walk
through
apopka
or
when
they
they
drive
through
apopka,
this
city
gives
that
essence
of
of
prosperity,
and
I
think
that
will
lend
itself
towards
again
revenue
production
so
and
as
well.
A
Okay,
okay,
I
guess
it's
up
to
me.
I
struggle
with
I
mean
I
I
would
if
it
were
just
me
voting
on
on
my
own.
I
would
probably
go
back
to
our
original
agreement,
so
we
come
forward
today-
and
here
we
are,
you
know,
looking
at
another
additional
455
thousand,
and
I
see
it's
kind
of
just
the
opposite.
A
I,
yes,
we
need
curb
appeal
and
I
get
that,
but
I
look
at
the
constituents
that
are
out
of
jobs
that
are,
you
know,
struggling
to
maintain
what
they've
got
and
for
us
to
go
out
and
raise
taxes
for
for
cutting
grass.
I
just
I
have
a
hard
for
me.
It's
a
hard
time,
because,
a
year
from
now,
nobody
remember
that
the
grass
was
12
inches
tall
versus
nice.
Neat
cut
grass.
A
A
I
want
a
4-0
vote
so,
but
if
it
were,
you
know
me
on
my
own,
I
would
say
I'm
fine
with
the
streets,
but
I'm
not
so
great
spending
either
reserves
I
mean
so
here
we
are
spending
reserves,
you
call
it
whatever
you
need
to
call
it
the
tax
increase
or
you
can
call
it
reserves,
but
we're
spending
money
that
we
don't
have
to
cut
grass,
and
I
mean
I
just
just
philosophically
I
can't
I
can't
get
there.
I
mean
I'm
gonna.
Do
it
because
that's
what
y'all?
D
To
me,
it's
it's
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
people
themselves,
that's
where
I
agree
with
you
yeah,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think,
there's
well
again.
E
I
finally
I
I
disagree
with
this
statement,
because
we've
we've
had
this
issue
for
many
years,
so
it's
not
just
this
year,
where
we're
out
of
where
we're
so
far
away
in
terms
of
budget
we've
been
dealing
with
this
every
single
year
I
mean
so
yeah.
It
may
sound,
I
I
guess
silly,
but
making
sure
our
right
of
ways
are
nuisance,
free
or
upkept
or
whatever
the
case
might
be
whatever
we
want
to
call
it.
A
B
I
I
would
hope
that
since
we're
putting
it
all
in
the
streets,
it's
not
just
going
to
be
per
se
just
for
cutting
grass,
but
because
I
even
talked
about
the
the
appearance
of
the
sidewalks
that
commissioner
becker
pointed
out
last
weekend
today,
I
drove
from
the
chamber
all
the
way
to
the
451
and
the
sidewalks
are
horrible.
You
can
barely
tell
that
it's
pavement,
I
mean
the
black
this
and
it
just
doesn't
give
the
appearance
of
a
place
of
a
clean
city,
and
so
I'm
hoping
it
would
also
do
that
as
well.
B
In
addition
that
I
was
out
in
my
family
trying
to
eat
breakfast
and
a
citizen
pulled
me
to
the
side
in
30
minutes
talking
about
a
retention
pond,
that
they
came
in
and
cut
the
grass
but
there's
trees
hanging
over
inside
the
retention
pond,
all
the
way
around
the
pond
so
they're
going
in
and
doing
what
they
can
do
and
get
out.
So
they
can
go,
do
something
else,
because
they
don't
have
the
real
time
to
spend
there
to
make
it
look
presentable.
B
The
way
the
homeowner
thinks
it
should
look,
because
it's
right
next
to
her.
Her
house-
and
so
I
went
by
and
took
a
look
and
it
looked
as
bad
as
the
30
minutes.
She
spent
telling
me
about
it,
so
so
I
I
think
that
they
don't.
They
will
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
are
listening
to
them,
even
even
in
a
time
like
this.
A
I
I
understand
I
mean
I
think,
but
also
think
that
we're
making
progress,
I
think,
had
we
not
done
anything
additional.
So
I
obviously
this
money's
gonna
go
to
good
use,
we're
not
gonna
waste
it.
It's
gonna,
it's
gonna,
do
exactly
what
you're
asking
it
to
do,
but
I
also
think
we
you
know
with
with
the
inmate
crew
had
they
been
on
for
the
last
three
months.
A
I
also
think
that
that
we've
got
the
contractor
up
and
running
now
and
and
they're
really
starting
to
get
into
their
own
and
in
this
budget
we've
got
where
they're
going
to
start
to
take
over
more,
for
you
know
the
grounds,
so
I
think,
without
an
additional
dollars,
it
would
have
gotten
better.
Does
it
meet
your
your
criteria?
Probably
not
so
I
don't.
I
don't
disagree
with
that.
I
just
I
just
fundamentally
have
a
hard
time
spending
money
on
three-week
fixes,
I
mean
that's.
A
I
got
no
problem
on
a
20-year
fix
for
roads
and
I
just
but
but
but
I'm
not,
I
don't
want
to
get
in
the
way
that,
but,
but
I
do
want
to
you
know
just
to
leave
it
to
that
and
then
I'll
look
for
a
motion
from
the
council.
We
do
have
other.
You
know
costs
going,
you
know
up.
We've
got
I
mean
I
looked
at
just
trying
to
do.
Some
of
the
calculations
like
commissioner
becker
had
done
and
if
you
look
at
the
cost,
you
know
going
up
the
quarter
mill.
A
It's
it's
between
the
the
value
going
up,
three
percent,
which
is
every.
I
think
every
house
is
going
to
go
up.
There's
three
percent:
that's
24,
plus
the
increased
millage
of
51,
so
it's
75
is
what's
going
to
go
up
for
a
homeowner
you're,
also
going
to
take
the
51
cents
per
month.
For
for
our
garbage
collection
is
going
to
go
up,
we
can
almost
guarantee
the
storm.
Water
is
going
to
double
from
25
to
50
next
year.
So
it's
not
just
30
bucks.
A
It's
you
know
it's
a
hundred
and
something
dollars
I
mean,
and
for
for
some
people,
that's
not
a
lot
of
money
I
just
but
but
we
are
in
tough
times
and
we
know
there
are
people
out
there
that
are
hurting,
and
so
I
just
I
want
to
be.
You
know
cognizant
of
that.
The
situation
that
some
of
our
you
know
the
people
who
live
here
in
apopka
are
are
facing
right
now,
so.
A
Well,
what
I
I
took,
two
thousand
dollar
assessed
value
and
then,
but
you
then
you're
going
to
have
a
six
you're
gonna
have
a
three
percent
increase
because
of
the
value
going
up
three
percent.
A
The
value
of
the
house
is
going
to
go
up
three
percent
so
that
that
gets
you
to
that's
24
22
and
then
increasing
the
millage
ads.
51.50.
E
A
F
E
A
A
E
E
A
D
Again,
that's
the
challenge
for
me,
because
everyone
that
I
heard
from
said.
No,
we
really
don't
want
to
see
it
go
that
high
in
this
year.
So
I'm
trying
to
find.
Well
then,
what's
that
happy
medium,
because
they
are
also
saying
we
do
want
to
see
and
make
sure
that
these
issues
that
we've
had
year
after
year
as
long
as
I've
been
here
are
addressed.
D
D
But
that
doesn't
accomplish
the
other
thing
that
I've
heard
consistently
for
years
as
well.
That's
that's
just
that's
my
concern
and
that's
why
I
asked.
Can
we
do
that
in
that
original
budget?
And
it
really
came
back?
We
really
can't
do
that
much
we're
doing
better
than
we
were,
but
we
really
need
a
little
bit
more
for
it
to
be.
C
Sharp
well,
I
think
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
factors
covet
hit
and
I
can
tell
you:
have
we
not
had
the
downturn,
the
three
million
dollar
hit
in
covid
that
affected
all
of
our
departments,
and
that
was
one
of
the
areas
you
know
we
had
everybody
looking
at
all
their
cost.
Also,
the
inmates
we
haven't
had
inmates
three
four
months:
it's
been,
it's
been
hectic
and
it's
been
tough
because
the
inmates
picked
up
the
trash
did
a
lot
of
the
the
edging
and
all
of
and
and
blowing
and
and
stuff
like
that.
C
So
a
lot
of
them
aren't
allowed
on
mowers
and
then
our
guys
would
do
the
mowing.
So
that
was
that
they
were
a
step
ahead
of
doing
the
the
trimming
and
polishing
work
or
whatever
we
came
through
in
mode.
So
we
were
able
to
move
quicker.
Some
of
the
stuff
you
see
on
northwest
recreation.
We
have
a
crew
out
there.
That
knows
that.
Well,
we
didn't
have
the
inmate
cruise.
C
So
when
you
we
took
those,
you
know
eight
members,
that
eight
ten
members
that
are
on
that
crew
and
when
you
don't
have
them
for
three
or
four
months,
then
it's
tough,
our
guys
are
still
mowing,
but
we
lost
that
portion.
So
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
factors.
I
know
that
recently
we
have
put
somebody
at
city
hall
greg
to
be
a
permanent.
You
know
to
to
work
on
the
facilities,
because
we
haven't
really
done
a
lot
of
work
on
trying
to
keep
up
with
mowing.
C
We
had
a
lot
of
work
on
them
on
the
actual
facilities,
so
we've
put
things
in
place
to
make
a
difference.
You
know
whether
it's
you
know
enough,
we'll
see,
but
we've
moved
things
around.
One
of
the
reasons
we
went
to
the
contract
mowing
was
to
take
a
lot
of
our
streets,
people
off
the
mowing
we
it
was
it
was
there
was
so
many
roads.
It
was
hard
for
us
to
get
it.
C
Keep
everything
get
everything
done
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
it's
tough
hiring
people,
I'm
not
going
to
sit
here
and
tell
you
paint
a
nice
picture
and
tell
you
I
can
hire
three
or
four
mowing
or
landscaping
people
tomorrow
we
are
struggling
trying
to
find
people
trying
to
find
maintenance
workers
that
to
do
the
mowing
in
the
the
landscaping
so
so
and
and
and
it's
tough
for
our
staff,
it's
tough
to
mow
and
do
all
the
finish
work
with
with
you
know
those
numbers
but
had
coveted,
not
hit.
E
F
E
Fleet
sustainability,
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
our
kind
of
park
space,
all
this
sort
of
stuff,
because
every
year
we're
just
rubbing,
nickels
together
and
so,
and
we're
so
afraid
to
like
touch
this
millage
rate,
that's
so
punitively
low
compared
to
other
municipalities
around
us.
I
don't
understand
why
we're
not
using
that
as
to
get
us
to
a
fair
foundational
point
of
view
about
what
other
cities
that
are
doing
it?
Well,
I
mean
our
tax
rate
is
punitively
low.
E
Well
I
mean
so
yeah
we
keep
on
going
back
to
this
year,
but
how
next
year,
how
do
we
curb?
You
know
emergency
roofing,
repairs
on
our
roofs
versus
getting
in
front
of
it
and
actually
changing
them
out?
It's
not
just
about
grass
grass
is
you
know
a
little
example
of
the
the
bigger
problem
at
hand
here,
but
if
we
don't
have
a
plan
to
do
all
these
other
things
a
plan,
we
still
don't
have
a
plan
to
what
our,
what
our,
what
our
reserve
fund
balance
percentage
policy
isn't
how
we
step
up
to
that.
G
D
F
E
C
Well
mayor,
I
have
a
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
few
comments
to
that,
because
I
will
tell
you
when
I
came
here
two
years
ago
there
was
a
lot
on
the
table.
There
were
10
million
dollars
in
projects
that
had
to
be
paid
for
contracts
that
weren't
budgeted
that
I
we
had
to
figure
out.
How
are
we
going
to
pay?
We
had
the
city
center,
we
had
the
martin
road
they're
huge
projects.
We
had
to
figure
out
how
to
fund
those
and
make
sure
they
were
funded.
C
I
was
a
little
nervous
when
I
got
here,
because
those
projects
weren't
budgeted
and
I
was
worried.
Where
am
I
going
to
get
those
dollars
if
they
weren't
actually
amended
in
a
budget
to
be
able
to
to
work
with
those
dollars?
We
left
a
million
dollars
on
the
table
at
city
center
from
that
project
that
we
could
have
got
from
fdot
and
we
would
have
a
million
additional
million
dollars
for
transportation.
C
So
ruth
I
came
in
here
and
I
was
told
the
first
week:
every
roof
needs
replacing
okay.
I
can't
do
them
all
at
one
time,
but
but
we're,
but
we
put
a
plan
in
place.
We're
doing
two.
Now
we're
going
to
come
back
to
you
with
two
more.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
the
roofs
in
in
pretty
good
shape
where
they
need
to
be.
I
had
an
amphitheater,
the
top
was
off
of
it.
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
how
do
we
put
in
place
to
get
the
amphitheater
fixed
I
want
to
we.
C
We've
worked
through
a
lot
of
projects
that
and
commissioner,
I'm
not
I'm
not
trying
to
to
pick
on
you,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
say:
we've
worked
through
a
lot
of
projects
that
were
started
three
years
ago,
but
never
funded,
never
started
and
we've
gotten
all
those
accomplished.
Those
were
big
things
that
needed
to
get
done,
and
I
was
hearing
from
everybody
get
those
projects
done.
Well,
we've
done
that,
and
so
I
think
then
I
was
here
in
reserves.
C
I
want
the
reserves
to
be
back
up
to
25
we're
there,
so
I
think
we've
done
a
lot
in
two
years.
I
know
what
I've
seen
in
our
staff.
We've
done
a
lot.
Have
we
done
everything?
No
do
I
want
to
get
there
absolutely
do
we
have
things
we're
going
to
bring
you
in
the
next
12
months
absolutely
to
help.
So
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
staff's
working
really
really
hard,
because
we've
been
dealt
a
lot
of
things.
C
C
So
we've
had
a
lot
of
of
capital
and
infrastructure
improvements
that
needed
to
be
done
and
we're
catching
up.
On
those
I
mean,
I
think,
we've
done
it
responsibly,
not
having
to
borrow
money
or
what
and
we've
caught
that
up
and,
like
I
said,
you're
going
to
see
in
the
next
six
months,
the
roofs
will
be
done,
we'll
be
caught
up
there
and
so
then
that'll
allow
us
some
of
those
capital
dollars
and
future
budgets
to
be
able
to
spend
them
in
places
where,
where
we
need
them
so
and.
C
Been
tough,
we
just
paid
off
martin
that
I
was
you
know.
I
was
struggling
with
the
stiff
payment
because
when
you
start
taking
away
ad
valorem
dollars
those
growth
dollars
that
you
use
to
pub
to
fund
public
safety,
we
lose
that,
but
but
thank
goodness,
we've
paid
off
martin
road
and
we
will
be
we're
using
those
100
and
208
000
or
whatever
is
in
our
general
fund
that
we've
been
able
to
use
to
fund
the
things
we're
talking
about
in
this
budget.
So
I
think
we've
done
a
lot.
I
want
you
to
know.
C
We've
done
a
lot
so,
but
we've
been
dealt
a
lot.
There
was
a
lie:
I'm
not
gonna
sit
here
and
tell
you
that
we
haven't,
but
we've
closed
these
projects
out,
they'd
a
lot
of
them
started
and
we're
finally
closing
those
out.
So
now
we
can,
can
you
know
move
on
with
the
the
concerns
and
projects
you
have
we're
going
to
come
back
to
you
too,
and
show
you
the
vehicle,
we're
going
to
do
a
vehicle
presentation
to
show
you
the
vehicles.
C
If
you
notice
the
last
couple
years
we're
not
buying
a
lot
of
vehicles
because
we've
purchased
a
lot
of
vehicles,
the
departments
have
told
me
that
hey
I
got
it,
I
got
a
truck
there.
I
need
to
look
at
what
I
got.
I
need
to
see
what
I
need
before
and
when
they've
moved
around
a
lot
of
their
functions,
so
I
want
to
come
back
we're
going
to
come
back
to
you
and
show
you
our
vehicles.
C
So
there's
we
have
there's.
It
was
a
lot
to
catch
up
on
so
and
I-
and
I
will
tell
you,
as
I
stand
here
tonight
last
couple
of
years-
we've
really
caught
a
lot
of
projects
up
and
been
a
lot
of
backlog
and
and
those
processes
take
a
while
you
have
to
you
have
to
bid.
You
have
to
the
process,
is
there's
a
lot
of
process
and
so,
but
we've
caught
a
lot
of
those
up
and
now
you
know
we
can
kind
of
focus
on
the
the
items
that
we've
been
talking
about.
D
D
Anybody's
disagreeing
with
that,
so
the
reality
of
that
is
where
the
funds
are
coming
from
is
the
people
that
are
also
affected
and
continuing
to
be
affected.
So
that's
where
I'm
trying
to
find
this
balance.
What
will
keep
us
moving
forward
even
in
a
challenging
time
and
at
the
same
time
the
people
are
also
saying
I'm
feeling
this
at
home.
So,
and
I
mean
I
I
know
we
might
disagree
a
little
bit
there
on.
I
think
it's
good
that
we're
to
me
a
benchmark.
D
We
should
stay
below
orange
county
for
different
reasons
that
I've
talked
to
businesses.
I've
talked
to
different
ones.
That
say
why
would
I
come
in
we're
trying
to
close
these
loopholes
these
these
swiss
cheese
pockets?
You
know-
and
I
think
that's
something
that'll
help
us
be
there,
so
I
I
I
don't
think
it's
that
we
can't
touch
this
millage
rate.
We
we
really
are
right
now,
even
in
a
challenging
time.
I
think
it's
how
much
and
is
this
the
year.
D
That's
the
thing
that
I'm
trying
to
find
that
balance,
because
that's
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
the
people
as
well
so
finding
that
balance.
Those
are
the
two
things
that
I'm
hearing
that
they
do
want
to
see
that
improve,
but
they
don't
want
to
see
too
much
this
year.
So
that's
just
kind
of
you
know
again.
I
want
to
come.
E
E
11
million
bucks
11
divided
by
51.,
we
would
still
be
at
22
percent
of
our
reserve
or
general
fund
expenditure,
assuming
that
we
just
paid
for
everything
out
of
the
reserve
balance
to
pay
for
our
shortage,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
things
that
we
needed
to
get
done
as
a
city.
I'm
just
saying
that
would
be
the
worst
case
scenario.
E
It's
not
terrible.
I
mean
the
the
floor.
Balance
on
the
reserve
balance
is
16.67.
It's
two
months
worth
of
expenditures.
25
is
three
months.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
put
it
in
simple
terms,
just
so
everybody's
clear
playing
field
about
what
we're
really
actually
talking
about,
because
it's
not
this
doom
and
gloom
stuff
that
I
don't
subscribe
to
that
you
know
now
what
the
future
holds.
Don't
know
right.
You
have
to.
C
No-
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
one
thing
that
I'd
like
to
point
out
and
make
clear:
is
it's
also
storm
season?
And
so,
if
it's,
if
it's
12
million
11
million
but
a
storm
comes
through
and
we're
gonna
need
two
or
three
million
dollars,
we've
seen
this
before
two
or
three
million
dollars
that
we've
got
to
take
out
of
that
to
form
to
for
the
storm
and
then
we've
got
you
know
other
issues
come
then
you're
talking
a
reserve
level
that
gets
even
lower
so
and
you
could
have
more
than
one
storm.
C
You
could
have
another
issue.
You
know
the
rainy
day.
Funds
are
also
for.
If
you
had
a
problem
with
state
dollars,
you
know
these
state
dollars.
They
give
us
they
give
us
this
projection.
But
if
they
come
back
in
december
I
hope
they
don't.
Commissioner
smith,
I
hope
you're
right
on
where
you
where
we
are,
but
I
hope
they
don't
come
back
to
me
and
I'm
coming
to
you
in
december
and
saying
you
need
to
adjust
that
10
because
we're
seeing
a
difference
in
the
last
quarter
and
that's
what
I'm.
A
A
So,
if
we're
going
to
do
you
know
I'm
okay
with
if
we
need
to
raise
millage
I'd
rather
raise
millage
and
not
mess
with
any
more
than
we've
done
with
with
reserves,
I
think
we're
gonna,
I
wanna
I
I
wanna
save
them,
because
the
next
two
years
are
gonna
for
me.
Are
gonna,
be
you
know,
turmoil
you
know
amongst
you
know
what
we're?
What
we're.
D
Of
course
you
were
here
when
I
brought
that
presentation,
and
that
was
less
than
other
cities
similar
to
ours
and
different
municipalities
have
different
sources
of
funding,
but
it
was
also
something
that
was
a
flexible
thing
with
a
plan
which
is
when
you
came.
Haven't
I
pushed
and
said
I
still
want
a
policy
because
I
think
it's
just
a
good
benchmark.
Sure
and
again
I
I'm
comfortable
with
flexibility
as
long
as
they're
planning
to
restore
it.
But
I
do
agree.
D
There
are
extra
risk
factors
that
we're
looking
at
right
now
between
covid
and
the
storms.
There
were
five
key
storms
at
one
time,
which
only
the
second
time
that
we've
seen
that
already
lined
up
so
and
again,
we
may
not
have
any
more.
That
would
be
wonderful
great,
but
if
we
do
I'd
rather
stay
on
the
safer
side
of
that
yeah
just
because
I
think
there
is
extra
risk
because
of
this
kobe
thing-
and
there
are
some
unknowns
there,
but
other
than
that
again.
D
D
F
D
A
All
right,
excuse
me,
I
guess
we
need
to
we
set
everybody.
Can
we
set
on
quarter
mill?
Is
that
I
know
you've
got
some
hesitations
and
I
do
too,
but
I
I'd
like
to
see
us
in
a
you
know:
4-0
vote,
but
I
I
can
you
know
we
can
take
it
whichever
you
want
to
go.
If
we're
all
good
with
that
susan,
would
you
read
the
resolution
2020-29,
please,
okay,.
A
Okay,
in
accordance
with
the
truth
and
millage
trim
requirements,
the
city
must
set
the
final
millage
rate
and
advise
the
property
appraiser
of
the
final
millage
rate.
The
final
millage
rate
is
4.2876,
which
represents
a
11.92
increase
over
the
rolled
back
rate,
millage
rate
of
3.8309.
D
F
A
C
Go
to
yes,
please
I'm
so
what
I'm!
So
in
your
motion,
I
need
to
make
that
the
455
000
or
the
additional
455.
C
To
yes,
so
it'll
be
yes,
so
you'll
make
it
as
a
transfer
to
the
streets
fund
and
the
amount
of
455
thousand
dollars.
Okay
and
and
then
yes,
so
do
it
do
it
that
way?
And
then,
if
we
have
to
do
any
budget
amendments,
we
can
do
that
after,
but
the
full
amount
will
transfer
into
the
streets
from
the
455
will
transfer
into
the
streets
fund.
So.
A
Oppose
motion
carries
anonymously.
Okay,
that
ends
the
budget
meeting.
Do
you
want
to
take
five,
or
do
you
want
to
just
roll?
I'm
good
either
way
right
a
little
bit?
Okay!