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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Workshop Meeting February 17, 2021
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Apopka City Council Special Workshop Meeting at City Hall on February 17, 2021 at 5:30 PM.
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A
B
So
for
the
viewers
as
well,
the
citizens
and
the
the
the
audience
that's
viewing.
So
this
is
the
workshop
that
we
scheduled
after
we
received
the
we
when
we
got
the
when
we
had
the
product,
the
duke
energy
settlement
agreement,
we
the
council,
decided
they
would
set
a
workshop,
so
I
want
to
go
through
the
the
few
slides
I
have
a
few
sites.
B
I
don't
have
a
big
presentation,
but
I
have
a
few
slides
and
then
we
can
have
discussion
and
questions
and
things
of
that
nature
at
the
end
again,
if
there's
something
in
the
middle
of
the
presentation,
you
need
to
stop
me.
That's
fine
too!
So,
as
you
recall,
on
june
20th,
duke
energy
had
an
agreement.
We
approved
the
agreement
on
june
20.
The
council
approved
the
agreement
on
june
20th
in
the
amount
of
just
a
little
over
2.9
million
dollars.
B
B
This
is
a
list
if
you
recall
back
on
that
agreement,
and
none
of
these
were
approved
in
that
agreement.
This
was
just
the
list
that
was
in
that
agreement
for
discussion
purposes,
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
some
of
the
of
places
that
that
staff
and
things
we've
been
hearing
from
people
in
the
community
a
list
of
some
significant
items.
B
But
you
can
see
that
this
this
list
included
the
payoff
of
a
couple
loans
and
we'll
go
through
that.
There's
a
slide
to
go
through
we'll
go
through
that
as
well.
So
I
can
kind
of
show
you
the
the
cost
of
those
loans
where
they
are
an
amphitheater
bathroom
talked
about
a
storage
unit
at
frank,
carlton
fire
engine
11
needed
replacement,
as
you
recall,
from
your
budget.
B
Welcome
signs
there
that
was
part
of
the
list
drainage.
Several
of
our
lakes.
We've
got
some
issues
with.
As
you
know,
border
lake
is
a
big
one
where
we've
had
some
drainage
and
flooding
issues
resource
center.
As
you
know,
there
was
some
discussion
about
that
at
our
at
one
of
the
council
meetings.
Birding
park
improvements.
That's
an
item
that
we
still
have
that
that
is
on
our
is
on
some
of
our
budget
lists
and
our
future
list,
and
then
the
conley
property.
B
B
Debt
service,
so,
if
you
look
through,
I
went
through
all
the
debt
service.
If
you
look
through
the
debt
service
that
we
have
outstanding,
we
have
two
notes:
two
revenue
notes
that
have
relatively
high
interest
rates
for
this
the
the
times
that
we're
in
today
the
recreation
improvement
revenue
note
which
matures
in
22
so
there
it
has
an
interest
rate
of
about
3.9.
B
B
B
The
balance
owed
on
that
is
a
little
over
or
a
little
under
1.2
million
dollars
with
interest
of
about
73
000
the
fiscal
year
22.
This
is
just
a
number,
so
you
can
kind
of
have
an
idea
what
what
this
is
costing
each
year.
The
debt
service
in
in
next
year's
budget
would
be
almost
361
thousand
dollars
is
what
the
debt
service
would
be
in
your
in
your
fy
22
budget
for
this
loan.
B
The
current
interest
rate
that
we're
earning
in
our
bank
and
our
bank
account
our
investments
is
point
three
percent.
I
wanted
you
to
have
that
number.
So
you
kind
of
know,
you
know
what
we're
earning
and-
and
I
will
tell
you
that
you
can
beat
up
the
banks
all
day
long
based
on
our
our
investment
policy.
You
know
we
have
to
keep
secure
liquidity.
B
Safety
are
big
issues
for
us
and
so
point
three
percent
is
kind
of
where
we
are
in
in
our
earnings
and
that
I've
checked
with
our
neighbors
and
stuff,
and
some
of
that
most
of
them
are
in
that
same
area.
So
so
I
wanted
to
have
this
information.
There
are
a
few
more
pieces
of
debt
listed,
several
of
them
come
off
the
books
next
year
in
22.,
there's
some
smaller
pieces
of
debt,
and
then
there
are
the
other
ones.
Their
interest
rates
are
below
two
percent.
B
B
B
Should
we
get
some
additional
appropriation,
we
need
to
have
matches
for
appropriation
or
that's
where
the
funding
will
come
for
the
fire
station
number
six
fire
station.
Six.
If
you
recall
the
fire
chief
talked
about
it,
adding
a
fire
district
chief
in
his
plan.
He
wanted
to
add
we.
We
did
not
add
that
in
fy
21.
B
B
That
was
another
one,
as
you
know,
in
our
fy21,
that
we
weren't
able
to
fund
all
of
the
the
wants
for
police
department
when
it
comes
to
police
officers.
But
if
you
recall,
at
the
time
we
were
applying,
we
wouldn't
apply
for
the
cops
grant.
The
chief
is
working
through
that
we
continue
to
monitor
it
every
day
they
say
that
the
grant
is
coming
out
very
soon,
so
we
plan
to
apply
for
that
grant.
B
B
B
B
I
think
that's
what
he
he
and
I
had
a
discussion
about
that
and
we
talked
about
doing
five
again,
but
he's
going
to
do
whatever
he
wants
to
do
up
to
10.
If
they'll,
let
us
do
that
that
amount.
So,
yes,
he
says
that
he
thinks
we
can
get
that
amount.
So
so,
whatever
that
number
he'll
we'll
bring
you
that
grant
as
well
you'll
see
that
grant
whenever
we
apply
for
it
as
well.
B
The
next
item
we
had
was
the
audio
video
for
the
city
council
chambers.
I
will
tell
you
that
rob
and
his
crew.
They
were
very
efficient
with
their
budget,
so
some
of
their
dollars
they
didn't
have
to
spend
last
year
for
some
items,
so
that
is,
they
have
been
able
to
fund
that
item
with
their
savings
from
their
current
budget.
So
that
item
is
currently
funded.
B
D
D
E
B
A
B
I
checked
with
him
this
afternoon
and
he
says
he's
good
with
servers
that
he's
had
the
things
that
he
needs,
so
that
item
is
has
been
taken
care
of
additional
fields
for
northwest
recreation
facility.
This
is
a
big
number,
as
you
know,
to
additional
fields.
Are
you
know,
brian
foreman,
as
he
presented
in
his
capital
plan
or
whatever
it
was
a
big
number.
There
we've
had
some
talks
with
some
some
people
that
there
may
be
something
that
we
can
bring
forward.
B
B
B
Millions
two
to
two
to
four
million
dollars
to
add
all
these
additional
fields,
ball,
fields
and
everything.
So
that's
why
we've
been
trying
to
work
to
see
if
we
can't
partner
and
come
up
with
a
way
where
we
can
fund
this
with
a
partner
to
be
able
to
get
those
fields,
but
this
was
in
his
cip
plan.
This
was
not
in
the
current
budget.
This
is
a
forecasted
in
his
five-year
plan.
B
A
A
You
know
members
of
the
public
pins
to
put
where
they
want
things.
Let's
say
you
want
a
dog
park.
Well,
I
want
the
dog
park
here.
Somebody
else
says:
well,
I
want
pickleball
courts.
I
want
them
here,
so
we're
going
to
let
them
kind
of
give
us
what
their
thoughts
about
improvements
at
northwest
and
then
we
want
to
take
it
back
and
have
somebody
actually
designs,
those
kind
of
complexes
and
say:
okay,
now
what
you
know,
here's
here's,
what
the
what
the
public
wants
now
how?
A
How
can
we
make
this
all
work
with
the
property
we've
got
and
what
what
they,
what
their
vision
is?
So
that's
we'd
like
to
you
know
we
were
talking
april
or
may
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
get
people
out
there
when
it's
before
it
gets
too
hot
and
and
let
them
give
them
individual.
You
know
little
pins
and
and
what
the
pin
you
know
equates
to
a
dog
park
or
pickleball
courts
or
whatever.
B
A
B
So
I
think,
like
mayor
was
saying,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea.
That'll
allow
the
public
to
to
be
able
to
come
and
say
you
know
that
they
want
to
see
these.
We
need
more
of
picnic
areas,
we
need
more
bathrooms
and
that
kind
of
leads
to
the
next
item,
commissioner,
that
we've
been
hearing
a
lot,
is
that
people
at
the
amphitheater
are
like
the
bathrooms
way
up
on
the
hill.
They
have
to
walk
all
the
way
up
to
the
hill.
B
We
don't
have
any
bathroom
facilities
actually
around
the
amphitheater,
and
so
one
of
the
items
that
that
was
in
our
capital
budget
was
to
build
a
bathroom
down
on
the
west
side
of
the
amphitheater.
You
got
one
kind
of
up
on
the
east
of
it.
It's
way
up
high
kind
of
build
one
down,
one
down
there,
that
could
have
a
concession
and
a
and
a
bigger
bath,
a
little
bigger
so
that
we
could
have
you
know
a
restroom
facility,
that's
at
the
amperage,
so
that
everybody
doesn't
have
to
to
go
up
the
hill.
B
So
because
we've
been
hearing
that
a
lot
that
people
you
know
would
like
to
have
a
bathroom
facility
closer
to
the
amphitheater
again
to
your
point,
maybe
there's
somewhere
else.
We
need
bathroom
facilities
and
some
other
areas
that
that
that
have
been
an
issue.
As
you
know,
the
last
two
years,
each
year,
we've
funded
to
do
the
concession
in
a
bathroom
in
the
dugouts
and
the
two
fields
that
are
that
have
been
funded
and
are
being
constructed.
B
C
B
So
that
was
the
amphitheater
bathroom
item,
storage,
building
for
recreation
and
the
cemetery.
As
you
know,
those
buildings
that
are
next
to
frank
carlton.
They
have
they're
kind
of
on
their
last
they're
at
their
that
they're
in
they're
done
so
one
of
the
items
that
was
in
our
budget,
our
future
budget
was
to
build
a
storage
building
there
that
we
could
store
our.
As
you
know,
the
mcbride
house
that
sits
also
behind
frank
carlton-
we've
got
storage
in
there,
but
the
building
is
is
falling
apart.
B
This
storage
building
was
was
in
our
plans
to
be
able
to
store
the
recreation,
be
able
to
have
them
to
store.
The
cemetery
doesn't
have
any
storage.
This
would
allow
them
to
have
storage
and
then
provide
the
storage
for
anybody
in
our
you
know
some
of
our
partners
and
things
that
we
have
that
have
things
that
need
to
be
stored
or
what
are
kept
out
of
the
weather.
B
B
This
item
was
estimated
over
a
million
dollars.
Jeff
has
come
since
jeff's
come
on.
They
put
a
plan
together.
As
you
know,
we
moved
streets,
division
from
8th
and
highland
because
of
the
condition
of
that
that
area,
which
is
the
area
the
parcel
that
we
have
up
for
sale
currently,
but
we've
moved
our
our
staff
from
there
down
to
public,
works
the
streets
and
grounds
people.
The
grounds
has
moved
to
recreation
and
the
streets
have
moved
down
to
public
works.
B
Well,
jeff
is
putting
a
plan
together
of
some
of
the
buildings
and
things
that
they
need
to
for
fleets,
expansion
as
you've
heard.
They
need
some
some
expansion
and
then
some
streets,
our
streets,
folks,
where
they
do
our
signs
and
stuff.
They
need
some
facility
as
well
currently,
by
moving
down
there,
they
they're
they're
in
building.
They
have
buildings,
but
they
need
storage
buildings.
They
need
things
of
that
nature,
and
so
this
is
just
getting
off
the
ground,
because
jeff
is
coming
and
wanting
to
put
a
plan
together
and
some
of
it.
B
We
think
we
can
actually
even
save
some
money
with
some
of
the
layout
in
the
plans
that
he
has
so
that'll
come
back
to
you.
Maybe
at
budget
time
you'll
probably
see
that,
but
I
wanted
to
let
that
was
one
of
our
items
that
we
were
able
to
fund
last
year.
That's
also
on
the
list:
fiber
replacement
city
hall
and
public
services,
fiber
replacement.
As
you
know,
that
was
a
request
from
the
I.t
department,
the
fiber's,
all
working
things
are
good.
B
Things
are
working,
but
as
rob
told
you
that
you
know
it's
older,
they
don't
know
where
some
of
it's
at,
but
they
do
know,
there's
where
they're
spliced,
where
they're
put
together
in
places
that
you
know
sometimes
they
have
to
work
on
those.
So
this
was
an
item
that
was
not
included
in
his
budget
last
year,
it's
in
his
future
budget.
So
there's
funding
or
there's
it's
in
the
budget
for
2022.
B
Or
60
000,
I
think
that
that
rob
had
mentioned,
but
he
also
mentioned
that
we
may
be
able
to
get
some
of
our
streets,
crew
and
his
staff
to
be
able
to
it.
So
if,
if
our
staff
has
you
know
some
time
to
do
that,
that
could
provide
some
savings
street
resurfacing,
you've
heard
it
every
year,
there's
never
enough
money
for
street
resurfacing,
but
we
are
currently
doing
the
the
jeff
and
his
crew
have
getting
underway
with
the
street
assessment.
B
So
at
budget
time
you
will
have
that
report
so
that
you
can
see
all
the
streets
will
be
assessed.
Conditions
you'll
be
able
to
see
that
report.
When
you
build
your
budget
for
the
next
year
and
then
the
last
one,
which
is
a
really
big
one,
is
border
lake
flooding.
We
all
know
that
flooding
has
been
an
issue
for
us,
so
that
was
that
was
a
big
ticket
item
as
well.
A
C
A
C
B
So,
that's
all
that
I
have
from
a
powerpoint
standpoint
and
from
from
a
list
of
items,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
when
I
looked
when
from
a
staff
standpoint
looked
at
the
items
that
would
affect
us
or
set
us
up
good
for
our
upcoming
budget.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
continue
to
watch.
B
B
I
think
it's
important
that
we
look
forward
as
well,
but
these
are
the
items
that
that
we,
you
know
weren't
able
to
fund
in
our
budget
some
other
items
that
we've
heard
from
the
community,
some
things
that
that
that
people
have
talked
about,
and
so
I
wanted
you
to
have
that
list
the
debt
service.
I
think
it's
critical,
I
think
you
can
see
just
those
two
pieces
of
debt
service
and
I
could
free
up
as
much
as
almost
a
million
dollars
in
your
budget
next
year.
B
D
Well,
for
me,
one
of
the
first
things
that
I'm
looking
at
is
these
that
we
carry
a
note
on
with
a
higher
interest
in
what
really
is
typically
out
there
right
now.
If
we
knock
those
out,
we
create
97
000
by
doing
so,
which
you
know
if
we
can
basically
knock
those
two
out
the
interest
savings
on
that
is
creating
ninety
seven
thousand
dollars
that
we
won't
take
out
of
the
budget
correct.
D
F
F
Replace
the
fire
engine
at
the
300
000.,
the
250
000
for
the
drainage
for
border
lake
in
lake
hamburg,
lake
page
150
000
for
the
resource
center,
150
000
for
the
burden
park
and
50
000
for
the
economy
property.
And
if
I
added
that
correctly,
that
came
to
two
million
eight
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars.
F
B
Mayor,
I
want
to
say
one
commissioner,
on
the
fire
truck
the
300
000.
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
clear.
That's
only
half
of
the
truck
so
this
so
that's
basically
putting
a
deposit
down
towards
it
and
then
because
it'll
be
it'll,
take
a
year
to
build
it.
So
in
your
budget
instead
of
building
in
600
000
make
sure
you
only
have
to
build
in
300
000
for
the
difference.
I
want
to
make
that
clear
that
the
truck
is
600
thousand,
not
three
hundred.
F
E
E
B
B
B
Can
I
get
a
reduction?
What
can
I
do?
What
can
we
do
to
get
a
reduction
in
these
rates
and
we
couldn't
get
the
banks
to
move
off
either
one
of
them?
No
matter
what
we
did.
I
mean
we
tried
everything
and
they
were
just
like
nope
you're
locked
in
the
rate's,
the
rate,
and
it
is
what
it
is.
So
we
tried
to
get
these
down
lower
than
where
they
were
under
two
as
well,
but
we
couldn't.
A
And
we
also
tried
to
take
some
of
those
leases.
You
know
leases,
no,
no
interest
leases.
Well,
you
know,
there's
they
got
an
imputed.
You
know
rate
of
return
on
that.
It's
not
like
to
give
it
to
you
for
free
right.
We
tried
to
save.
Could
you
discount
some
of
the
leashes,
because
we
got
three
or
four
or
five
leases
right.
F
A
We,
you
know
like
tasers
and
stretchers,
and
we
couldn't
get
them
to
discount
the
you
know
the
amount
like.
Why?
Wouldn't
you
give
us
a
you
know
five
percent
or
10
discount
if
we're
gonna
pay
it
off
instead
of
paying
it
off
in
three
years
so,
but
they
wouldn't
budge
on
on
the
lease
agreements
either.
F
B
E
So
I've
struggled
a
little
bit
there
because
you
know
obviously
debt
necessarily
isn't
a
bad
four-letter
word
right,
even
though
it
is
a
four-letter
word
as
long
as
we're
responsible
and
keeping
that
percentage
low
as
a
total
right
percentage
of
our
total
expenditure
as
the
city,
but
same
same
token
too,
if
you
get
rid
of
that,
you
do
free
up
money
that
you
would
have
spent
on
an
annual
debt
service
payment.
My
question
is,
you
know.
Obviously
we
tend
to
gravitate
towards
some
of
these
big
ticket
items.
E
You
know
these
bathrooms
of
the
worlds
or
ball
fields
that
are
two
to
four
million
bucks
where
I
want
to
center
in
on.
Is
these
this
2.9
million
dollars?
Isn't
this
kind
of
windfall
that
we
just
discovered
right?
It's
monies
that
should
have
been
coming
to
us
over
the
last
two
years,
so
we
naturally
have
things
that
are
still
not
as
sexy
to
list
on
these
picks
up
here,
but
you
know
roofs
that
leak
or
plumbing,
that's
not
up
to
snuff
in
our
facilities,
or
you
know,
fleet
that
requires
maintenance.
E
B
B
Two
and
joe
is
going
to
put
together
a
report
to
bring
you
before
budget
time
to
kind
of
show
you
the
condition
of
everything
where
we
cut
where
we've
come
from
and
where
we
are
today
that
we
have
the
re
we
have
the
annex
still
to
do,
but
there's
funding
that's
carried
forward
from
because
it's
been
funded
for
a
couple
years.
So
there's
funding,
that's
carried
forward
to
do
the
the
annex.
B
We
did
apply
for
a
grant
to
do
the
police
department
we're
still
waiting.
They
said
that
that
we,
they
really
think
we
have
a
good
opportunity
to
get
it
so
we're
kind
of
waiting
to
see
where
we
get
if
we
get
funding
for
that
for
the
police
department,
so
the
plumbing
issue,
I've
talked
to
joe
about
that.
I
guess
we
have
pretty
there's
a
an
issue
in
the
fire
department.
Fire
station,
one
that
the
pipes
are,
the
pipes
are
pretty
old.
B
They
are
old
in
that
building
and
they
are
doing
some
work
on
that
now,
but
that
is
all
funded
in
the
current
budget.
So
he's
working
now,
they're
working
now
to
try
to
fix
that
that
issue
and
the
fire
department
now
and
that's
funded
so
those
items
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
they
are
funded,
so
the
roofs
are
funded
and
that's
funded.
B
So
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
also
watch
that
that's
going
to
be
a
debt
service
payment,
that's
going
to
be
a
pretty
big
debt
service
payment!
That's
going
to
come
on,
so
I
think
anything
we
can
do
now.
If
there
are
some
places
that
we
can
make
some
changes
in
our
debt
service.
Now
it
will
free
up
that
so
that
we
can.
We
can
borrow
that
money
to
build
the
the
public
safety
complex.
E
E
My
my
theory
is
that
there's
still
a
lot
of
stuff
left
to
be
desired
on
some
of
our
facilities
and
stuff
like
that,
and
even
the
infrastructure
too
right,
it's
not
just
the
rotary
surface.
It's
some
road,
restriping
items.
You
know
I've
talked
about
lester
road,
I
mean
some
of
that
stuff
has
just
absolutely
disappeared.
E
Street
lighting
you
had
a
resident
talk
about
sam
piper,
recently
got
an
email
about
that.
You
know
had
a
email
exchange
with
a
gentleman
up
in
oak
ridge
talking
about
the
pressure
of
the
reclaimed
water
system
going
up
there
and
they
can't
use
their
sprinklers
properly.
So
you
know
it's
this
type
of
these
things,
that
kind
of
bubble
up
out
of
nowhere
that
we
need
dollars
for
and
that's
where
this
money
comes
into
play,
it's
all
fixing
all
the
stuff
that
we
should
be
fixing.
That's
right.
B
And
it's
gonna
be
fast
and
you're,
and
and
some
of
those
issues
you're
right.
That's
what
we've
been
trying
to
to
work
on
and
trying
to
shore
up
the
reclaim
issue
or
whatever
is
at
your
utility
side.
So
then
there's
funding
there.
So
that's
an
issue
that
can
be
that
will
be
funded
from
the
utility
side
and
should
be.
E
B
B
A
Yeah,
because,
quite
honestly,
three
or
four
years
ago
they
were
taking
money
out
of
utilities
and
sending
it
over
to
general
funds,
which
you
know
so
some
of
our
we
got
in
trouble
because
of
that
some
of
the
dollars
that
should
have
been
going
to
street
resurfacing
should
have
been
going
to
public
works
was
being
sent
over
here.
So
we've
got
that
pretty
well
in
pretty
good
shape.
I
mean
we
still
we're
waiting
on
the
wastewater
and
the
reclaimed
and
the
storm
water
to
get
to
get
a
balance
on
rates
versus
that.
A
G
B
E
B
The
if
you
look
back
at
the
loan,
the
loan
had
the
tower
truck
the
fire
truck
and
the
ambulance,
and
I
think
it
had
a
seven
year
life
on
those
from
the
left.
From
the
note,
so
you
can
see
it's
a
seven
year
note,
so
I
think
they
kind
of
use
those
because
those
vehicles
last
a
lot
longer
the
police
vehicles.
In
that
note,
if
you
look
back
at
that
note,
when
I
looked
it
had
a
three-year
police
vehicle,
I
usually
give
a
three-year
cycle.
In
that
note.
B
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
don't
want
to
belabor
my
comments
here,
but
obviously
my
focus
is
more
in
line
with
making
sure
that
we
have
all
the
little
things
that
keep
on
bubbling
up,
that
we
always
have
to
put
money
towards
to
fix
or
patch
or
whatever.
The
case
might
be,
whether
that's
potholes,
whether
it's
resurfacing
street
lighting,
all
these
water
issues
that
are
pardon
the
pun
bubbling
up,
but
all
that
stuff
before
we
even
get
into
some
of
the
larger
investments
and
then
station
six.
E
Obviously,
if
we
don't
get
it
from
a
state
level
which
you
know
with
covid,
I
I
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
they're
gonna
fund
our
our
station
out
of
out
of
appropriations.
I
just
I
I
have
a
tough
time,
thinking
that
so
getting
them
out
of
that
trailer
environment
into
a
formal,
brick
and
mortar
station.
You
know
all
these
things
are
adding
up
pretty
quickly
right
and.
B
I
and
I
agree
with
you
there
on
from
station
six.
I
think
you
know
we've
got,
I
think
it's
we
tried.
I
think
it's
it's
worth
a
try
to
try
to
see
what
we
can
get.
So
I
think
you're
right
after
this,
you
know
we've
tried
and
everything
we
can
do.
I
think
you
know
we
we
we
have
to
go.
We
will
go
to
build
station
six
yeah.
Definitely
you
do
have
impact
fees,
which
is
what
they're
for,
and
you
do
have
I'm
confident
that
you
have
the
impact
fees.
B
E
C
A
C
Kind
of
I'm
going
along
with
I'm
glad
that
he
asked
everyone
else,
so
I
I
get
an
idea
of
what
the
priorities
are
for
each
different
for
each
commissioner,
but
that
is
my
concern
is
that
we
have
this
windfall,
but
we
have
so
many.
What
do
they
call
low-hanging
fruits?
And
so
what
happens
is
we
keep
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
and
we
don't
fix
it.
C
C
C
Water
seems
to
be
a
very
big
deal
without
governor
and
we
are
having
a
lot
of
flooding
problems.
So
that's
for
me,
that's
a
priority
border
lake
and
all
the
lakes
there,
because,
as
the
mayor
known,
I
have
gotten
calls
for
clear
lake
estates
border
lake.
We
have
that
shopping
center
there
that
we
want
to
encourage
businesses
to
come
into
this
shopping
center,
but
we
have
a
very
big
flooding
problem
there
and
that's
something
that
we
have
to
address
and
northwest.
I
can
see
because
that's
something
that
brings
us
a
lot
of
revenue.
C
So
if
we
can
invest
in
something
that
will
keep
bringing
you
know,
people
to
come
in
and
want
to
be
at
the
jason
dwelling
in
the
in
the
sports
field.
That's
a
that's
a
good
investment
at
this
point.
You
know
the
debt
service
you're
right.
If
we
pay
up
some
of
this
debt
service,
that
frees
up
the
money
for
the
next
budget
and
we
we
can
then
fund
some
of
the
things
that
we
did
not
fund
in
the
last
budget.
C
I
just
feel
like
the
list
that
we
have
maybe
there's
one
or
two
things
here-
that
I
would
say:
okay,
let's
go
forward
with
it,
but
then
again,
as
everyone
knows,
camp
weewa
came
into
our
lap
and
that's
a
big
that's
a
big
commitment
for
us,
so
this
2.9
million
would
help
us.
If
we
we
have
to
say
what
do
we
really
want.
Obviously,
camp.
C
We
were
something
that's
risen
way
to
the
top
of
the
list,
and
you
know
we
we
can't
depend
on
the
grants
and
certainly
what
I
don't
want
is
for
us
to
be
taking
funds
from
different
departments
in
order
to
meet
that
expense.
Maybe
we
should
hold
on
to
some
of
this
money.
We
may
use
it
toward
camp.
We
will
if
we
decide
that
we're
going
to
go
forth
with
it.
D
Mr
benson,
okay,
just
going
back,
I
again,
I
don't
want
to
leave
almost
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
the
table
that
we
would
be
paying
to
the
banks
that
we
could
be
paying
ourself
and
use
it
in
the
future.
So
that's
why
I
kind
of
lean
towards
those
two
bigger
items
and
the
thought
is
what
would
they
won't
change
that
present
interest
rate?
But
if
we
went
and
we
looked
at
the
amphitheater,
what
would
it
what
would
be
the
new
loan
on
that?
D
Could
we
get
a
lower
interest
rate
on
that
and
so
we're
switching
it
from
a
higher
one
for
the
rec
loan
to
something
if
we
want
to
use
that
money
elsewhere,
basically
looking
at
a
loan
to
get
that
done,
so
we
still
accomplish
it,
but
we're
shifting
it
over
to
an
interest
rate.
That
makes
sense
again,
as
commissioner
becker
said,
that's
that's
good
debt
versus
bad
debt,
so
that
might
be
one
shift.
We
could
look
at
doing.
D
I
kind
of
agree
with
commissioner
smith
on
a
lot
of
these
line
items
here
and,
of
course,
recognize:
pastor,
shorize
and
his
lovely
wife
that
are
here
and
gotten.
So
many
emails,
I'm
sure
everyone
has
on
the
wrecks
or
the
the
resource
center
and
I
think
that's
a
tremendous
help
to
the
city.
So
I'm
excited
to
have
that
involved
in
there,
but
again
to
commissioner
vlaska's
point.
D
D
G
G
And
so,
as
as
we've
watched
this,
we
found
out
that
a
lot
of
energy,
a
lot
of
effort,
has
gone
into
trying
to
help
a
homeless
community
that
always
doesn't
want
to
advance
they
they
as
long
as
they
can
get
a
meal
every
day
somewhere,
they're.
Okay,
why
work
and
when
all
of
our
churches
and
all
of
our
agencies
are
working
independently,
there
are
enough
smart
people
out
there
that
they
go
wherever
they
can
go
to
get,
what
they
want
and
they're
never
going
to
get
better.
G
If
I
have
on
monday
night
I'll
have
50
to
75
individuals
to
include
families
with
children.
That'll
come
over
to
get
food,
get
a
change
of
clothing
when
we're
able
to
do
showers
to
help
them
get
a
shower,
so
that
they're
at
least
cleaned
up
and
respectable
when
they
go
into
our
businesses
and
only
a
small
percentage
of
them
will
go
forward.
G
We've
got
people
that
could
work,
but
connecting
them
to
the
nurseries
that
need
helpers,
getting
them
in
a
place
where
they're
willing
to
go
work
is
hard
because
we
don't
know
where
they're
going
for
right
now
again,
there's
a
lot
of
them
that
just
they
can
get
food
every
day,
and
so
why?
Why
go
work
if
somebody's
gonna
feed
me
every
day,
this
resource
center
will
help
bring
all
of
this
together
in
a
in
in
a
way
that
that
our
city
will
be
beneficial.
G
Now
I
I
don't
need
this
as
a
church.
I've
got
plenty
to
do
myself
and
that's.
Why
that's
why
we
thought
if
we,
if
we
could
get
the
resource
center
together
and
the
the
city
was
in
support
of
it?
Our
businesses
have
already
expressed
that
they're
willing
to
help
with
it.
They
they
give
us
things
all
the
time
to
try
to
help.
So
so
we've
got
a
good
business
community
here
and
when
we
all
start
working
together,
we
can
fix
this.
G
G
My
church,
we
know
that
we
want
to
still
do
some
of
the
things
we
do
now,
because
it
gives
us
a
chance
to
share
christ
with
them.
The
resource
center
won't
be
designed
for
that,
specifically,
of
course,
that
will
be
an
element
that
we
hope
is
there.
But
but
that's
not
that
important,
because
if
somebody
comes
there
and
they
know
that
I
provide
a
monday
night
dinner,
the
resource
center
can
say:
hey,
listen
since
you
seem
to
be
moving
forward.
G
You've
got
three
kids
that
are
hungry,
go
to
first
baptist
on
monday
night,
they'll
help
you
out
in
first
baptist,
then
we'll
help
them
with
that,
and
we
just
all
start
working
together
and
use
the
resources
that
we
have
and
that's
that's
the
the
concept.
So
I'm
willing
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
specifically
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
E
You
know
the
some
of
the
flaw
in
that
that
thinking
too
is
that,
with
a
resource
center
that
everybody
can
kind
of
gravitate
towards
and
like
you
open
up
your
remarks
is
everybody
has
something
that
they
can
do
go
to
every
day
of
the
week,
and
they
know
that
and
if
they're
not
motivated
to
get
out
of
that
situation,
if
they're
covered
so
to
speak,
food
wise,
the
motivation
may
not
be
there.
The
introduction
of
apopka
resource
center
is
not
necessarily
going
to
make
those
daily
services
go
away.
E
They're
still
going
to
stay
there.
My
church
does
mana
bags
for
homeless.
They
do
they
work
with
the
hope
ministry
that
comes
the
first
tuesday
of
every
month.
Those
things
I'm
assuming
will
stay,
so
all
of
those
things
will
still
be
a
service
that
they
can
come
to.
My
my
thing
is,
I
always
kind
of
gravitate
towards
the
dollars
and
cents
of
the
transaction
versus
the
cause,
because
I
don't
think
anybody
could
disagree
with
the
cause
that
that
you're
trying
to
do
correct,
but
you
know,
we've
I'll
use
an
example
on
the
ucf
incubator.
E
We
sunk,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
into
that
didn't
didn't
do
anything
that
it
said
it
was
going
to
do.
We've
got
this
where
I
get
there's
a
number
represented,
but
I
don't
know
what
that
money
is
for.
I
I
don't
you
know
is
that
for
a
brick
and
mortar
location
is
that
for
services
and
and
to
that
end
too,
is
the
people
that
are
buying
into
this
program.
E
E
G
The
150
would
be
for
a
location
to
get
it
started,
the
brick
and
mortar
to
get
it
started
there
is.
There
is
right
now
I
mean
the
foundation
has
been
set,
there's
about
probably
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
the
foundation
that
isn't
being
spent
right
now,
because
again
we
we
didn't
want
to
start
spending
money
that
that
was
being
done
already
in
in
the
churches.
We've
not
recruited
for
money,
because
we
don't
have
a
place
that
it's
actually
working
out
of.
G
G
We
need
that
location
to
get
started
and
we'd
looked
at
several
of
them
and
I
think
there
were
some
possibilities,
but
we
want
to
work
with
the
city.
We
could
have
very
easily
worked
with
the
masonic
lodge
and
and
got
their
antics
and-
and
I
had
some
people
that
were
willing
to
start
looking
at
refurbishing
it
and
doing
all
of
that.
G
The
problem
is,
the
city
doesn't
want
all
of
our
homeless
running
back
and
forth
across
441,
because
we've
already
had
people
killed
out
there
in
that
situation
and
with
it
right
there
and
trying
to
do
a
city
center.
So
we're
trying
to
be
respectful
not
to
to
do
something,
that's
going
to
frustrate
the
city
at
the
same
time,
and
so
so
two
options
right
now.
G
I
know
that
there's
a
place
on
central,
just
south
of
michael
gladden
that
you
know
could
potentially
be
be
purchased
if
the
city
purchased
it
and
then
leased
it
to
the
next
step
foundation.
That
would
be
an
opportunity.
The
location
makes
it
a
little
bit
difficult.
Pastor
smith
knows
that,
with
it
being
right
down
there,
some
of
our
volunteers
are
going
to
struggle
with
going
down
there
unless
there's
security,
and
so
now
you've
got
an
additional
expense
that
that's
involved.
G
We
just
were
approached
by
debbie
turner,
they've
got
to
downsize
and,
and
so
their
building
is
available,
our
church
would
love
to.
You
know
have
the
foundation
purchase
that
it's
in
a
location
where
there's
already
a
lot
of
activity
for
them
anyway,
and
it
could
be
monitored,
we're
close
to
the
fire
department
if
there's
any
issues
with
health,
we're
close
to
the
police
department.
If
there's
any
security
issues
or
in
in
in
since
we
already
know
a
lot
of
this
community,
we
can.
G
We
can
utilize
that
so
that
money
could
go
to
assisting
with
with
with
with
purchasing
that
through
the
foundation,
and
I
really
don't
think,
there's
going
to
be
an
issue
with
the
funding
once
we
can
say:
here's
where
it
is,
here's
what's
going
on
and
we
would
have
to
scale
whatever
services
we
had
available
to
whatever
funding
was
available
through
the
assistance
of
of
community
members
and
a
lot
of
community
members
want
to
participate,
but
we
don't
have
that
place
for
them
to
do
that.
Yet.
F
That
would
tell
us
that,
yes,
this
person's
really
trying
to
help
themselves,
and
we
can
see
that
that
advancement
and
then
that's
not
jumping
from
church
to
church,
to
church
and
and
taking
advantage
of
the
system
so
by
having
one
place
to
go.
Where
there's
all
this.
That
is
compiled
and
they
can
have
the
resources
there
that
these
individuals
would
need
past
the
clothing
and
and
the
food,
but
the
mental
health
jobs,
health
care
all
those
kind
of
things
housing.
If
it's
all
housed
in
one
place,
then
there's
a
resource.
F
G
And
commissioner
becker,
as
you
know,
like
the
mana
bags
being
passed
out,
the
idea
that
community
resource
network
has
already
developed
a
software
for
us
to
be
able
to
to
to
put
at
all
of
the
churches,
and
so
when
somebody
comes
from
man
and
bag,
they
could
very
simply
put
in
you
know
joe
smith,
and
what
we
were.
What
we
were
using
were
date
of
birth.
G
We've
got
most
of
their
dates
of
birth,
because
we
just
we
would
celebrate
their
birthdays
when
they
would
come
on,
and
so
most
of
them
do
that
and
it's
an
easy
way
to
kind
of
just
track
who's
doing.
What
and
all
they
would
have
to
do
is
they'd
put
that
in
there
and
we
know
that
they
got
a
mana
bag
at
you
know,
first
methodist
church
or
whatever
the
church
was
and
and
and
that
helps
us
also,
and
all
of
that
is
in
place.
G
It's
just
without
a
a
facility
to
start
coordinating
the
efforts
and
making
sure
we
know
who's
on
board
and
who
isn't
is?
Is
the
challenge
and
we
don't
churches
want
to
do
ministry,
so
we
don't
want
to
take
it
away
from
them.
We
want
to
be
able
to
say:
listen
if
you
work
with
us.
If
you
go
to
your
church
and
send
them
to
us,
let
us
evaluate
them,
and
then
we
can
say
you
know.
When
you
need
a
bag,
you
can
go
to
first
methodist
church.
G
We
don't
want
or
whatever
that
church
is.
We
don't
want
to
take
that
away
from
any
of
the
churches
from
doing
ministry,
because
that's
our
opportunity
to
say
you
know,
christ
is
the
answer
and
hopefully
they'll
get
that
in
their
life
and
that'll
help
all
of
them.
That's
our
that's
our
ultimate
goal.
D
D
This
really
fits
something
I've
long
to
see
that
we
can
all
work
together
as
all
of
the
churches,
and
I
think
it
starts
moving
things
off
of
the
back
of
governor
back
to
the
churches,
where
it's
most
natural
and
the
fact
that
you
know
the
diligence
that
I
know
you
guys
have
put
into
it.
I'd
be
right
in
the
middle,
but
because
the
sunshine
I
went,
I
saw
the
mayor
there
so
pulled
back.
But
I
think
this
is
a
tremendous.
D
G
We've
got
a
great
community
of
volunteers.
Here,
we've
got,
I
mean
when
we
do
our
effort
at
the
church.
Often
we
have
more
people
there
from
outside
of
our
church
than
our
than
us.
The
beta
community
at
school
comes
every
monday
night
in
our
part
of
it,
so
we've
got
our
young
people
seeing
the
value
of
helping,
and
so
once
we
had
it
in
a
place
where
you
know
they
from
their
churches
know
about
it.
C
C
C
You
see,
I'm
with
the
commissioner
becker
a
lot
of
the
residents
that
have
reached
out
to
me
and
say:
well,
why
is
the
city
buying
this
building?
Why
aren't
the
churches
getting
together
and
purchasing
the
building
and
leaving
and
leaving
the
taxpayers
out,
he's
saying
because
it
feels
like
as
a
government,
we
are
not
overseeing
this.
A
We're
not
we're,
I
mean,
and
the
operating
costs
are
going
to
be
way
more
than
this
is
this
is
to
get
a
building.
The
operating
costs
over
the
next
20
years
are
going
to
be
much
higher
than
than
the
150
000
investment
that
we
make.
You
know
we,
we
hope
it'll
be
a
break,
even
situation
that
the
churches
we'd
like
to
have.
A
You
know
the
the
20
or
30
churches
that
have
been
at
every
month's
meeting
up
until
kobit
that
they
would
help
support
this
community
center
that
that
you
know
to
help
keep
the
lights
on.
You
know,
I
think,
then
we
get
advent
health
to
come
in
with
the
mental
health
counseling
with
you
know,
hiv
testing,
with
with
you
know,
shots
for
hepatitis
c,
which
we
did
right
yeah.
So
I
I
think
you
know
this
is
this:
is
you
know
kind
of
the
seed
we
need
to
get
those
churches?
A
G
Commissioner
velasquez
one
of
one
of
the
challenges
you
know
and
again,
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
in
the
middle
of
it
because
we
got
it
started
and
when
dr
joel
hunter
stepped
down
from
northland
and
started
the
community
resource
network,
because
we
made
a
great
connection
with
with
his
representative
evan
smith.
That's
what
started
to
generate
all
of
this
and
move
it
beyond
just
what
we
were
doing
at
our
church.
G
I
I
believe
that
there
was
a
point
at
a
point
in
time
where
the
churches
would
have
all
probably
done
that,
but
but
just
like
everybody
else
covet
is
has
has
impacted
everybody,
and
so
so
so
the
reality
is
until
we
have
a
spot
where
they
know
it's
a
reality.
That's
going
to
happen.
It's
going
to
be
hard
to
get
them
to
put
their
money
out.
Most
of
them
are
trying
to
survive
themselves
and
taking
care
of
of
of
the
needs
that
they
have
within
their
own
congregations,
let
alone
others
that
come
and
go.
G
But
we
do
have
a
commitment
that
if
we
have
a
center
that
we
get
started,
there
are
a
number
of
churches
that
already
said
that
we
will
be
a
part
of
this
even
first
baptist
church
of
sweetwater,
which
really
isn't
even
apopka
church,
but
they
said
you
know
what
we
love.
What
you're
doing
we're
close
enough?
There's
people
from
apopka
that
go
to
us
certainly
will
be
a
part
of
it,
and
so
I
I
know
that
we
can.
G
We
can
get
it
up
and
running,
but
we
just
need
that
place
to
get
it
started
and
again,
if,
if
the
city
has
a
better
place
to
utilize
at
150
000
that
helps
people
you're
not
going
to
find
an
argument
from
me.
This
isn't
this
isn't
me
trying
to
you
know
twist
an
arm.
I
want
people
to
be
helped.
I
just
don't
know
that
there's
a
better
investment
that
you
can
make
right
now
that
will
impact
the
people
that
you
know
again.
There
are
some
that
genuinely
need
it.
G
I
just
don't
think
that
you've
got
a
better
place.
You
can
put
it
into.
You
know
sewer
systems
or
whatever
you
want,
and
I
know
that
them
were
all
things
that
got
to
be
paid
for.
I
got
to
pay
for
them
at
my
church,
but
I
try
to
do
as
much
as
I
can
to
help
people
move
forward
and-
and
I
think
that
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
say
we
want
to
touch
people's
lives.
F
G
A
A
It
kind
of
fits
it
gets
two
two
boxes
checked.
One
is:
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
right-of-way
around
this
that
we
have
that
we
own
the
city
owns
it.
It
doesn't
do
anybody
any
good
and
secondly,
for
me,
the
reason
I
thought
it
was
a
good
location
is
that
it's
next
to
the
bus
stop
which
so,
if
somebody
needs
to
get
a
job,
but
they
don't
have
a
car,
it's
two
blocks
to
walk
to
the
bus
stat.
A
You
know
the
super
bus
stop
there
to
get
them
to
if
they
got
to
go
to
orlando
or
to
mount
dora
or
wherever
to
get
their
job.
You
know
from
a
from
that
point
of
view.
It's
it's
it's
a
it's
a
great
location,
but
the
150
000
would
be
toward
you
know.
Let
the
let
the
you
know,
the
the
organization
kind
of
figure
out.
G
And
just
so
that
you
know
I'm
actually
not
on
the
foundation
board.
I
purposely
stayed
off
of
it
because
I
didn't
want
this
to
be
about
about
myself
in
our
church,
and
so
we
we
have
a
very
strong
board
of
people
that
care
deeply
about
this.
This
place
from
you
know,
rod
love
to
tim
clark.
To
I
mean
the
board
is
a
a
solid
group
of
guys
who
really
care
in
gals
that
really
care
about
what
happens
here.
G
F
And
also,
let
me
say
when
we
talk
about
taxpayers
dollars.
We
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
that
some
of
the
people
that
come
to
to
receive
these
services
are
also
taxpayers.
Some
of
them
have
jobs,
there
may
be
minimum
wage
jobs
and
they
can
barely
make
ends
meet
so
they
need
additional
meal.
They
need
some
assistance
from
clothing.
So
so
all
these
people
are
not
just
not.
A
G
You
know,
and
we
got
jobs
partners
that
already
wants
to
work
with
us,
but
again
we
we
weren't
organized
in
a
in
a
position
that
we
could
really
tie
in
all
of
these.
But
if
the
foundation
has
a
place
where
this
is
where
we
can
meet
with
these
people
and
and
work
through
these
things-
and
it's
not
a
a
church
effort,
but
it's
a
community
effort,
that's
our
goal
is
we
want
this
to
be
a
community
effort,
not
not
not
any
particular
church
doing
something.
D
And
that's
right,
you
know
I
wanted
to
bring
that
up
as
well,
because
this
isn't
going
to
the
church-
and
I
think
that's
the
misnomer-
that
this
is
supporting
churches
and
that's
kind
of
mingling
funds
and
people
concerned
about
that.
This
is
something
that's
dealing
with
something
we
haven't
yet
seen
the
effects
of
what
kobut
has
done
fiscally
to
a
lot
of
our
own
people
and
it's
hurting
them
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road,
and
these
are
people
who
typically
have
had
jobs
in
the
past.
D
To
me,
I
think
it's
really
going
to
fend
off
some
some
issues
that
could
fall
upon
us
as
a
city
and
upon
the
taxpayers.
It
also
is
going
to
tend
to
rather
than
being
something
that
accumulates
the
negative
aspect,
and
I
think
people
see
that
it's
actually
going
to
protect
us.
We've
got
a
lot
of
development
rather
than
having
tent
cities
springing
up
we're
going
to
create
something
that
is
an
avenue
to
help
people
get
back
on
their
feet,
get
get
genuine
jobs.
D
G
D
D
G
We
don't
want
to
duplicate
what
hope
center's
doing
what
what
bridges
center's
doing,
what
wolves
and
fishers
are
doing.
We
don't
want
to
duplicate
that.
We
want
to
be
able
to
say
when
somebody
needs
food,
a
family
needs
food
and
they
qualify
for
loaves
and
fishes.
We
don't
want
to
give
them
food,
we
want
to
say:
we've
already
got
a
place
that
does
all
of
that
loaves
and
fishes.
You
need
to
go
down
there
now,
there's
some
requirements,
but
what
happens?
G
Is
they
don't
take
everybody
and
when
they
don't
take
somebody
there
has
to
be
a
way
to
say:
okay,
that
family,
let's
help
them
and
then
let's
get
them
qualified
so
that
they
can
go
to
loaves
and
fishes.
Let's
help
them
do
whatever
paperwork
needs
to
be
done.
Let's
help
them
get
their
birth
certificate.
G
E
I
mean,
obviously,
all
the
the
the
focus
is
on
the
details
of
this
thing
I
mean
again,
I
don't
dispute
the
mission
of
what's
trying
to
be
accomplished
here.
It's
just
you
know.
If,
if
we
spend
150
or
150
000
on
a
brick
and
mortar
location,
the
city
owns
it,
we
we
have
risk
and
liability
in
that
regard.
E
So
if
you
do
get
critical
mass,
if
you
do
get
an
outpouring
of
people
that
are
seeking
these
services
and
there
is
a
backlog
and
you
don't
have
the
ability
to
service
every
single
person,
you
know
all
the
details
around
what
happens
when
you
do
have
people
that
decide
to
bring
a
tent
and
a
pitch
tent
in
the
parking
lot.
You
know
what
what
happens,
then,
what
you
know.
D
E
There,
a
payback
for
the
150
000
original
investment,
because
people
catch
the
vision
and
there's
a
schedule
for
us
to
be
paid
back
the
original
seed
money
as
a
city.
You
know
all
of
these
details,
yeah,
I
want
to
know.
I
mean
we're
not
going
to
solve
it
tonight,
but
obviously
there's
there's
people
up
here
that
are
in
support
of
it
and
me
I'm
just
a
little
skeptical
about
just
the
finer
points
of
of
the
money.
Knowing
that
we're.
G
G
You
know
I'm
here
to
help,
but
I
am
I'm
not
here
to
play
games
either
and,
and
so
you
you
know,
we
have
the
city
trespassing
I
hate
to
have
the
police
department
have
to
deal
with
those
kind
of
things,
but
you
know
what,
if,
if
that's
the
only
kind
of
accountability
they
understand,
sometimes
you
just
have
to
do
that.
So
I'm
a
24-year
marine
that
you
know
I
I
I
love
people,
but
you
know
we're
not
trying
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
people
to
take
advantage
of
us.
C
B
C
As
the
you
know,
just
moving
along
just
trying
to
get,
you
know
two
boxes
of
food
to
take
back
to
them.
I've
been
fortunate
that
I've
called
hope
community
when
they
don't
have
food
distribution,
and
I
have
a
family
that
needs
food.
They
meet
me
there.
They
give
me
the
food
covert.
Has
a
lot
of
the
churches
closed.
G
C
G
G
They
they
would
come,
they
would
find
out
and
again
a
lot
of
the
work
would
still
be
done
in
the
churches.
The
it
would
be
the
the
center
point
where
they
would
be
evaluated
and
then
they
would
be
able
to
be
told
where
they
can
get
the
assistance
that
they
specifically
need.
But
now
you
would
have
that
recorded
so
that
you
can
see
who's
doing
what,
rather
than
them
just
going
church
to
church
to
church
and
nobody
really
knowing
who's
doing
what?
G
A
Sure
we'll
look
at
that.
The
other
thing
that
you
know,
nicole
kennedy
in
our
office,
has
done
over
the
last
three
or
four
months,
she's
put
together
a
resource
booklet,
so
it
lists
all
the
resources
that
that
we're
providing
either
from
from
apopka
churches
or
orange
county
or
the
state
of
florida
or
even
the
federal
government.
So
we
at
least
have
a
you
know.
We've
got,
I
know,
like
your
church.
Does
wednesday
night
you
do
laundry
there's.
I
think
another
church
there's
two
churches
that
do
laundry
there's
you
know
so
you
know
where.
A
So
if
somebody
were
to
come
to
the
resource
center,
yeah
laundry
tomorrow
night,
you
know
pastor
smith's
church
will
be.
Will
you
know
if
you
go
down
to
the
world
of
suds?
They'll
take
they'll,
take
care
of
you.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
I
think
the
one
of
the
biggest
things
is
just
giving
people
ids
to
be
able
to
go
to
work.
You
can't
go
to
work
without
an
id.
It
might
not
be
a
driver's
license,
but
you,
if
you
don't,
have
a
state
id
you're,
not.
A
Get
a
job
period,
and
so
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
I
think
this
resource
center
could
really
help
us.
You
know,
coordinate
and
what
you
know.
I
would
like
to
model
it
after
like
what
first
presbyterian
church,
which
is
where
my
mom
and
dad
go,
is
that
they,
every
friday
they
do
a
lunch.
Feeding
and
they've
got
five
different
churches
that
every
friday,
so
they
alternate.
So
it's
not
on.
So
my
thought
is
we
get
to
the
point.
A
Where
is
that
a
church
would
pick
up
either
a
day
or
a
week
a
month
and
they
would
run
the
resource
center,
so
we'd
have
to
train
those
the
people
as
to
what?
What
to
look
for
mental
health
is
ids,
so
they
would
know
where
to
get
those
resources
for
the
people,
so
that
that
first
baptist
would
be
the
the
first
monday
of
of
the
month.
You
know
the
first
presidential
second
tuesday
of
the
month.
Methodist
church
will
be
the
third
you
know,
thursday
of
the
month
and
and.
G
And
if
dignity
id
was
coming,
they
would
go
to
the
resource
center
rather
than
being
somewhere
where
nobody
else
knows
where
they're
at
and
and
so
we
would
have
them
there,
and
all
of
the
churches
would
know
that.
That's
where
dignity
id
is
on
the
third
thursday
of
the
month
and
they
so
it
just
there's
just
so
many
things
that
we
could
do.
That
would
be
beneficial
all
of
the
services.
G
All
of
the
questions
that
you
have
the
problem
with
trying
to
answer
those
is
until
we
have
the
facility
the
facility
is
going
to
drive
what
what
services
we
can
have
out
of
it.
We
do
know
that,
regardless
of
where
it
is
we're
going
to
have
the
ideas
to
have
the
case,
workers
that
can
start
to
put
that
together.
E
Yeah,
I
mean
I'll
challenge
that
point
a
little
bit.
You
know
if,
knowing
the
size
of
the
building
that
you're
targeting
knowing
that
size,
what
are
the
services
that
you
would
plan
if
it's
something
smaller,
okay,
which
ones
are
going
to
cut?
If
it's
something
bigger?
Which
ones
would
we
introduce
so
having
that
level
of
service?
That's
what
I
would
want
to
see,
and
that's
all
about
the
right.
It's
anytime
that
we
make
a
funding
decision.
We
just
have
to
know
what
we're
actually
paying
for.