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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting December 15, 2021
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on December 15, 2021 at 7 PM.
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B
Let's
file
for
prayer,
heavenly
father,
we
thank
you
again,
as
we
gather
in
this
place.
We
ask
for
your
wisdom
again
to
do
the
business
of
the
people.
We
ask
for
your
direction
and
guidance
and
thoughtfulness.
Lord,
we
remember
the
people
in
the
midwest
who
have
suffered
such
tragedies.
We
just
asked
you
to
lift
them
up,
strengthen
them
all
those
who
are
rushing
to
respond
father.
May
it
bring
be
something
that
draws
us
together
again
as
a
nation,
we
ask
all
these
things
in
jesus
name,
amen,.
A
B
B
A
D
E
A
Okay,
whereas
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
charter
and
ordinances
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
an
election
shall
be
held
on
march
8
2022,
at
which
election
there
shall
be
elected
mayor
and
the
commissioner
for
seat
one
and
a
commissioner
for
seat
two
and
whereas
the
terms
of
office
of
mayor
commissioner
seat
one
and
commissioner
seat,
two
will
expire
at
12
p.m.
On
april
26
2022.
A
Now,
therefore,
I
brian
nelson
mayor
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
as
required
by
law,
do
hereby
proclaim
and
pronounce
that
an
election
will
be
held
in
the
city
of
apopka
florida
on
tuesday
march
8
2022
from
7
a.m,
until
7
p.m.
104
is
at
the
apopka
community
center
vfw,
519,
south
central
avenue,
apopka
florida
and
precinct
9204
northwest
recreational,
complex
3710,
jason
dwelling
apopka
florida
hi
brian
nelson,
hereby
appoint
the
canvassing
board
for
said
election
as
follows:
canvassing
board
city,
commissioner
doug
benson
city
clerk,
susan
b,
m
bone
and
city
resident
jim
green.
A
F
F
You
know
from
the
police
and
fire,
you
know
it's
definitely
a
group
effort
and
we
really
appreciate
all
of
your
help
and
this
year
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
came
to
the
parade,
but
it
was
such
a
relief
to
have
a
normal
parade
after
covid
last
year,
and
we
had
83
entries
and
an
hour
and
a
half
parade,
and
it
was
wonderful.
So
I
hope
everybody
enjoyed
it.
F
I
think
they
took
up
a
whole
city
block.
So
turning
point
could
have
won
many
different
awards,
but
they
scored
highest
on
most
creative,
so
for
most
creative
goes
to
turning
point
and
they're
doing
some
performances
this
week.
So
accepting
the
award
is
derek
grimsley
and
in
the
parade
he
was
in
the
rudolph
costume.
F
F
G
F
A
Well,
as
as
commissioner
smith
and
I
are
both
members
of
sir
tom,
I
tell
you-
I
know
that
we've
started
back
what
in
march
april,
started
working
on
the
parade,
and
so
a
lot
of
hard
work
goes
behind
the
scenes
to
make
that
happen.
So
thank
you
thank
the
sertoma
club
for
all
that
you
do
to
make
that
happen.
Yup
that
was
a
great
a
great
great
event,
one
of
the
best
ever
okay,
the
city
pavement
improvement
program,
so
we're
streaming
live
or
how
we,
how
we
handling
rob.
A
I
To
the
mic
yeah
good
good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioner,
my
name
is
dave
alberto
public
service
director.
As
you're
aware
this
board
made
in
19
20
21
approved
infrastructure
management
service
ims
to
perform
an
assessment
of
the
city
roadway
pavement,
condition,
david
brayton.
The
project
manager
from
ims
will
be
providing
us
a
synopsis
of
their
assessment
and
finding,
and
this
will
be
done
via
zoom.
I
J
Hello,
everyone
is
my
audio
coming
through
clear.
Yes,
thank
you
for
having
excuse
me.
Thank
you
for
having
me
this
evening.
As
mentioned,
my
name
is
dave
bratton
with
imf,
and
we
recently
completed
a
payment
management
program
with
the
city
tonight,
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
run
through
the
basics
of
what
we
did
the.
Why
the
how
and
just
try
to
give
an.
J
We
then
quantify
those
two
stresses
so
whether
it
be
a
count,
an
area
measure,
a
linear
foot
measure,
and
then
we
take
the
severity
of
that
distress,
whether
it
be
a
small
crack
or
a
large
crack
and
that's
all
rolled
into
again
an
acm
standard
calculation
and
we
put
out
a
condition
index
from
0
to
100.
100
being
the
best
condition
you
can
get.
Basically,
a
brand
new
road
has
no
defects,
zero
being
a
road.
That's
completely
failed,
it's
beyond
the
point
where
any
sort
of
smaller,
maybe
less
expensive.
J
J
How
this
looks
for
the
city's
roads?
Are
you
know
it's
actually
a
really
good
network.
We
see
an
overall
pavement
condition
of
77,
very
few
agencies.
We
see
get
over
a
pci
of
80.,
so
that's
what
you
guys
kind
of
at
the
the
top
of
the
range.
As
far
as
you
know,
agency
networks
are
concerned,
see
a
backlog
of
one
percent
and
that
backlog
represents
the
streets
below
a
pci-40
generally
the
streets
that
you're
going
to
have
to
do
pretty
extensive,
if
not
full
reconstruction.
J
J
The
benefit
here
is
that
you
can
try
and
do
cheaper
rehabs
on
streets
in
better
condition
to
keep
them
in
better
condition.
Longer.
If
we
look
at
the
graph
here,
you
can
see
three
basic
zones.
We've
got
the
red
zone
down
at
the
bottom.
Those
are
going
to
be
your
most
expensive,
rehabs,
your
streets
that
are
in
the
worst,
the.
J
Keep
doing
small
rehabs
to
keep
those
streets
in
good
shape,
and
then
you
can
see
the
blue
solid
line
here.
That's
the
kind
of
the
represented
deterioration
of
the
pavement,
so
the
blue
line
keeps
coming,
and
then
we
get
to
a
point
here
in
the
green
zone
where,
if
we
left
the
street,
as
is
it
will
continue
to
deteriorate
a
little
bit
faster
and
then
down
into
the
yellow
and
red
zones
which
are
more
expensive.
J
J
What
that
looks
like,
as
far
as
percentages
of
a
pavement's
life,
the
beginning,
where
you're
seeing
a
brand
new
road
it
actually
deteriorates
relatively
slow,
because
it's
still
structurally
adequate
cracks
haven't
formed
to
allow
water
in
it
hasn't
seen
those
repeated
traffic
loads,
so
you're
actually
able
to
get
approximately
only
a
15
drop
in
quality
over
40
percent
of
the
pavement's
expected
life.
Whereas,
if
you
get
past
a
certain
point,
where
payments
start
to
deteriorate
a
little
bit
faster,
you
actually
see
that
rate
increase.
J
J
So
this
is
kind
of
the
basic
driving
factor
behind
the
process
and
it's
actually
an
iterative
process.
So
what
we
did
is
we
came
in
and
initially
talked
with,
the
city.
What
are
your
basic
objectives?
Where
do
we
want
to
test?
What
do
we
want
to
find
out
about
the
roads?
We
went
out
collected
conditions,
so
now
we
have
an
understanding.
We
know
where
the
good
roads
are,
the
bad
roads
are
and
just
what
shape
they
are
from
there.
J
J
Then,
sometime
in
the
future,
the
process
starts
over.
Where,
based
on
the
previous
findings,
there's
new
objectives,
we
come
out,
reassess
and
do
the
whole
process
through
reporting
and
analysis.
Again
now
the
survey
itself
it
uses
a
van
that
has,
we
call
them
lcms
bands,
it's
laser
crack
measurement
system,
there's
two
very
accurate
lasers
on
the
back
of
the
vehicle
and
they're
running
down
the
pavement,
collecting
detailed
information
down
to
millimeter
accuracy
about
the
profile
of
the
road.
J
G
J
J
J
It
creates
a
slick,
smooth
area
where
you
can
have
reduced
skid
friction
and
that's
you
know
that
can
lead
to
accidents,
use
pavements
to
stop.
You
want
to
be
able
to
stop
longitudinal
and
transverse
cracks.
Those
are
things
that
everyone's
used
to
seeing
they're
small
they're
large,
but
that's
generally
just
a
function
of
the
pavement
aging
see
things
like
alligator
cracking
and
it
looks
like
its
name
scales
on
the
back
of
an
alligator.
J
J
Is
gonna
represent
a
failed
pavement,
so
through
repeated
traffic
loading,
the
pavement
is
gonna
deflect
more
and
more
and
over
time,
that
deflection
actually
causes
little
cracks
to
turn
into
big
cracks
and
pieces
of
the
road
to
break
apart.
At
this
point,
the
road's
really
not
handling
traffic
loads
well
anymore,
and
that
portion
of
the
street
needs
to
be
replaced.
J
J
J
So
over
the
life
cycle
of
the
pavement
again,
we
start
at
pci
100
and
work
our
way
down
as
we
go
down.
The
rehab
techniques
that
we
would
want
to
use
are
going
from
simple
things
like
crack
seals,
slurry
seals
at
the
top
of
the
range
which
are
very
cheap,
they're,
very
quick
to
put
down
once
you
get
into
the
60
70
range
for
pci's.
J
That's
where
things
start
to
go
from
those
light,
surface
treatments
to
overlays,
where
you're
actually
milling
off
part
of
the
pavement
and
coming
back
and
replacing
it
down
through
the
50s
and
60s
it's
possibly
thicker,
overlays,
you're,
milling,
deeper
or
you're
patching
all
the
way
to
the
base
of
the
pavement
and
then
once
you
get
down
to
pci
40,
that's
really
where
roads
start
to
look
failed.
You
may
need
to
do
the
whole
pavement
surface
over
again.
G
J
We've
got
some
images
of
what
that
looks
like
within
the
city.
Here
is
a
pci-97
bonsai
street.
This
is
basically
a
new
road
or
what
would
be
considered
new,
probably
only
a
few
years
old.
You
can
see
that
it's
still
black,
there's
no
cracks
on
the
top
or
very
few.
This
is
something
that
maybe,
in
a
couple
years
may
need
a
little
bit
of
maintenance
crack
seal.
Something
like
that
from
here
down.
J
It's
only
minor
amounts
of
cracking
that
you
usually
see
pci
97
to
92
would
be
potentially
hard
to
distinguish
even
down
into
the
80s.
It
gets
a
little
bit
more
difficult.
The
next
street
here
we
can
see,
is
a
62,
and
this
is
about
the
point
where
those
surface
treatments
really
start
to
lose
their
effectiveness.
You
can
see
quite
a
bit
of
longitudinal
cracking
here.
It
hasn't
got
to
the
point
where
the
pavement's
failed.
Yet,
but
you
know
it's
it's
more.
G
J
G
J
The
crack
widths
are
very
large
here
on
this
residential
street,
so
this
is
still
something
that
could
be
saved
with
an
overlay,
but
it
may
need
different
areas
of
patching,
for
maybe
the
allocator
cracking
then
at
the
lower
end
of
the
scale
we
have
a
pci
of
27.
Here
you
can
see,
there's
been
some
patching
to
fix
areas.
There's
some
patching
along
the
edge
of
the
pavement.
There's
a
little
chunk
missing.
J
Fortunate
thing
here
is
your
conditions
and
their
distribution
again:
pci
77
backlog
of
roughly
one
percent,
most
of
your
streets
are
over
a
pci
of
50,
there's,
really
nothing
50
and
below
three
percent,
or
so
so.
This
is
going
to
allow
you
to
focus
on
those
surface
treatments
and
those
overlays
which
keep
the
pavements
in
better
shape
or
in
good
shape,
longer
for
less
money
than
reconstructing
the
entire
network
or
the
entire
segment
of
the
street.
J
We
look
at
this
in
kind
of
three
different
steps,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
kind
of
a
fact-finding
stage
where
we
figure
out
what
you've
got,
what
you
may
need
we're
going
to
look
at
current
rehab
techniques.
So
what
are
you
guys
doing?
What
does
it
cost?
Are
there
any
areas
that
we
need
to
know
about
as
far
as
maybe
additional
planning
needs?
It's
going
to
be
more
expensive
in
this
part
of
town.
G
J
So
do
we
want
to
have
more
surface
treatments,
different
types
of
surface
treatments
and
then
areas
of
a
higher
priority,
so
maybe
those
thoroughfares
where
you're
seeing
more
traffic
more
people
use
it.
We
want
to
put
our
funds
there
so
that
a
greater
amount
of
traffic
is
is
getting
to
see
the
the
improvements
that
we're
doing
step
two.
J
We
take
all
of
these.
These
ideas
that
we've
come
up
with,
or
these
needs
that
we've
addressed
or
identified
and
we
plug
them
into
an
analysis
program.
Ims,
has
its
own
spreadsheet,
based
one
that
we've
supplied
to
the
city,
but
it
basically
allows
you
to
deteriorate
pavements
moving
forward
so
that
you
can
forecast
into
the
future.
It
lets
us
bring
in
these
cost
models
that
we've
developed
or
borrowed
bring
in
those
planned
projects.
Again,
we
can
set
those
priorities
and
it
lets
us
go
kind
of
one
step
beyond
just
looking
at
each
individual
segment.
J
It
gives
you
kind
of
a
leg
up
on
the
next
step
of
eating
internally
and
seeing
where
we
actually
want
to
do
work
once
that's
complete.
We
have
some
running
models,
we'll
do
some
budget
scenarios
based
on
goals
that
we
may
want
to
set
funding
that
we
know
we
have
and
then
we'll
put
out
a
five-year
analysis
plan
to
say
this
dollar
amount
gets
us
at
this
point
in
the
future.
J
G
J
J
While
it
doesn't
really
add
a
structural
dimension
to
the
road,
it
helps
with
wiring
and
weatherproofing
and
then
a
case
seal
there.
It's
usually
a
larger
aggregate,
a
larger
aggregate
size
with
either
a
slurry
or
a
micro
seal
over
it
to
keep
the
pavement
smooth
and
it
looks
nice
to
to
citizens.
The
cape
seal
actually
does
a
little
bit
better
job
as
well
when
it
comes
to
minimizing
reflective
cracks
that
may
be
on
the
pavement.
So
those
generally
last
a.
J
And
that's
why
we
put
it
a
little
bit
further
down
the
list
for
worse
roads
from
there,
we're
looking
at
possibly
different
types
of
overlays
as
far
as
thickness
and
maybe
additional
patching,
that's
needed
and
then
down
at
the
very
bottom,
we're
looking
at
those
full
reconstructs
for
roads
that
have
completely
failed
they're,
going
to
be
the
most
expensive
option.
Fortunately,
there's
very
few
roads
within
the
city
that
require
that,
so
we
can
focus
a
little
bit
more
on
the
overlays
and
the
surface
treatment.
J
G
J
About
2.5
million
dollars,
we'd
be
looking
at
a
final
pci
for
the
network
at
an
84.
that
would
be
above
and
beyond
what
most
agencies
go
for,
you'd,
be
in
fantastic
shape.
Moving
forward
backlog
would
be
zero
bottom
of
the
scale.
Here
we
have
the
current
projected
budget,
it's
variable
over
the
years,
so
it's
not
a
constant
2
million
1
million
half
million
150
000.
It
averages
about
950
000
per
year.
J
That's
going
to
hold
the
city
at
a
pci
of
75,
which
is
still
good
and
it
allows
the
backlog
to
grow
a
little
bit
to
2
next
slide
shows
this
same
data,
but
it
relates
to
a
trend
line
where
we
can
compare
pci
and
the
budget.
So
if
you
look
anywhere
along
this
line,
you
can
kind
of
trace
over
to
the
pci
say
we
want
a
pci
70
and
we
can
move
down
to
the
budget
scenario
area
and
we'd
be
at
maybe
tick
marks
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
two
hundred
thousand.
K
J
Able
to
hit
exact
pcis,
we
were
able
to
use
a
pci
of
78,
which
would
be
a
slight
increase
at
about
1.47
million.
We
would
see
a
tiny
decrease
to
a
76
at
about
1.2
million,
so
somewhere
in
there
would
be
kind
of
steady
state
at
77.
If
you
wanted
to
maintain
just
surface
condition,
average
at
77
you'd
probably
be
in
the
1.325
million
ballpark.
J
J
J
G
G
J
A
backlog
still
at
around
two
percent.
We
also
recommend
that
rehab
strategies,
your
your
estimated
costs
for
any
work,
you're
doing
be
reviewed
and
updated
annually.
If
you
see
drastic
increases
or
drastic
decreases
in
pricing
that
can
drastically
change
the
outcomes
of
the
models,
so
we're
looking
at
a
five-year
period,
you
know
even
10
percent
change
in
in
costs
can
can
move
you
up
or
down
the
scale
quite
a
bit.
J
J
You
know
if
you
can
spend
the
money,
spend
the
money,
as
we
saw
in
one
of
the
very
beginning,
slides
a
dollar
of
preventive
maintenance
saves
you,
you
know
five
to
ten
dollars
in
rehabilitation
down
the
line,
and
then
we
also
recommend
periodic
resurveys
just
to
track
deterioration,
make
sure
that
all
of
our
models
are
using
data.
That's
up
to
date.
Most
agencies
do
that
on
a
three
to
five
year
period,
but
it
just
depends
on
your
needs.
L
L
It's
your
at
your
kind
of
five
year
horizon
slide
before
that
there
you
go
so
on
the
recommendation
slide.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
reading
this
correctly.
So
on
the
recommendation
slide,
it
would
recommend
a
budget
of
950
thousand
dollars
a
year.
But
if
I
look
at
that
trend
line,
we're
going
from
a
spot
of
condition
of
77
average
now
to
a
condition
of
75,
so
we're
actually
getting
worse.
Why
would
we
recommend
a
budget
of
950
to
get
worse
in
terms
of
overall
network
quality.
J
L
Okay,
I'm
just
trying
to
reconcile
to
that
last
slide
because
on
the
apopka
recommendations,
maybe
this
is
a
staff
question,
but
it
says
in
popular
recommendations.
Slide
55
budget
scenarios,
annual
five-year
budget
950
achieves
pci
75
800
achieves
pci
at
74..
I'm
reading
that
as
a
recommendation
of
this
council
is
that
incorrect.
J
That
would
be
the
kind
of
the
minimum
recommendation
based
on
where
you
guys
are
currently
with
funding
it's
more
of,
what's
currently
achievable,
based
on
what
you
guys
have.
So
if
there
are
additional
funds
available,
we
definitely
recommend
trying
to
keep
pci's
where
they
are
at
or
higher,
but
yeah.
So.
L
950
doesn't
seem
realistic,
so
I
find
it
telling
because,
like
on
slide
34,
where
we
talk
about
the
benefits
of
payment,
pavement
management,
the
green
section,
where
it's
four
to
six
dollars
a
square
yard
in
terms
of
that
condition
of
a
roadway
to
kind
of
be
proactive
and
keeping
up
the
road.
The
roadway
condition
it's
kind
of
interesting
when
you
compare
it
to
slide
40,
where
you're
going
over
to
understand
the
payment
condition
index
where
you're
you're
kind
of
rating.
L
L
L
L
L
J
L
J
L
Okay
and
then
in
your
analysis-
and
this
is
kind
of
a
random
question-
but
do
you
factor
in
kind
of
way
vehicles
are
constructed
these
days?
You
know,
obviously,
with
the
adoption
of
electric
vehicles,
there
are
much
heavier
vehicles
over
over
time
and
as
those
become
more
adopted
and
more
and
more
people
drive
those.
Do
you
factor
that
into
the
analysis
that
you
have
over
the
five-year
period.
J
It
is
possible
to
do
with
structural
testing,
but
this
this
analysis
didn't
factor
that
in
passenger
vehicles
are
definitely
less
destructive
than
you
know:
multi-axial
vehicles
semis
garbage
trucks.
Things
like
that,
so
with
the
slight
increase
in
weights
for
like
the
batteries
things
like
that,
it's.
B
Appreciate
this
analysis,
because
it
gives
just
the
ability
to
project
for
the
future
on
a
consistent
basis.
I
lean
towards
proactive.
You
know,
as
commissioner
becker
said,
we
need
to
get
it
up
to
a
standard
and
keep
it
there
or
it
costs
us
more
in
the
long
run.
So
if
we
have
to
spend
more
initially
to
get
it
there,
it's
worth
it
in
the
long
run
and
to
me
after
safety
is
infrastructure.
I
think
that's
where
we
need
to.
B
C
A
A
D
J
We'd
have
to
kind
of
tweak
the
parameters
which
we
set,
so
it
prioritizes
different
roads
differently.
We
went
and
prioritized
arterial
roads
above
locals
and
collectors.
I'd
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
digging
to
see
where
the
poor
conditioned
streets
are.
It
may
be
that
they're
very
low
travel,
local
roads
that
didn't
have
a
high
enough
priority
to
be
selected
within
the
program.
J
A
I
I
So
we
are
familiar
with
all
the
processes
right
that
is
listed
in
the
report,
and
I
also
have
working
knowledge
about
the
type
of
and
the
choices
one
of
these
wrote
for
proactivity
and-
and
I
liked
some
of
the
questions
that
most
of
you
ask,
because
in
terms
of
preservation
or
treatment
of
roads,
it's
better
to
be
proactive
and
fix
the
roads
structurally
now
and
it
lasts
longer
than
to
prolong
it
and
the
county
in.
In
our
case
there
we
always
use
the
milan
overlay
more.
I
I
So
with
that,
what
with
the
study
that
was
done
by
ims,
we
went
through
a
list
of
roads
based
on
their
recommendation
and
we
provided
them
independently
to
vet.
Those
roads
depend
on
the
recommendation
that
they
have
provided
to
us.
So
before
I
go
through
those
slides.
I
have.
I
just
wanted
to
re
reiterate
some
of
those
pavement
terminology.
So
you
see
on
those
slides,
you're
going
to
see
some
some
of
those
roads.
I
have
there
as
mill
and
overlay
and
what
that
means.
I
The
process
involved
is
to
remove
the
existing
pavement
correct
any
base
deficiency.
Like
you
know,
you
have
in
some
some
some
depression
area
level,
that
area
and
overlay
with
no
structural
pavement.
The
reason
that
you
have
to
do
that
because
the
pavement
itself
right
had
lost
all
its
level
of
services
life
and
you
have
to
replace
it.
If
you
don't,
then,
basically,
water
infiltration,
everything
is
going
to
damage
the
base.
It
will
be
expensive
to
reconstruct.
I
So
we
have
select
a
certain
type
of
road
and,
according
to
the
pavement
condition
analysis,
they
fall
below
a
range
from
his
30
50
and
lower
down.
We
also
have
roads
that
is
suggested
in
the
study
for
cape
seal
and
micro
surfacing
now.
Those
role
the
pavement
conditions
right
is
is
not
compromised,
but
you
can
go
ahead
and
use
those
treatment
service
and
you
can
prolong
those
roads
for
another
five
to
seven
years,
so
that
you
you
can
spend
some
of
your
money
in
those
ex
a
road
that
is
really
compromised.
I
I
I
The
other
stuff
is
a
micro
surface,
and
these
are
treatment.
These
have
no
structural
stuff
but
they're
able
to
preserve
the
pavement
and
give
you
five
to
seven
years.
It
enables
you
to
stretch
your
money
out
right
and,
and
you
know,
and
and
get
those
washed
wood
down
in
time-
and
this
is
also
a
surface
treatment
where
a
mixture
of
asphaltic
emotion,
upgrade
water
and
other
dessert,
which
is
potent
cement,
is
spread
over
the
existing
pavement.
I
We
have
the
one,
for
example,
yada
road
we
will
discuss
here,
and
I
will
show
this
slide
here.
This
road
need
a
call
in
place
well,
recycling
process.
This
is
a
special
process,
it's
a
special
type
of
equipment
and
what
it
does
it?
It's
really
a
set
of
machine
that
involved
with
a
hundred
percent
recycling.
I
We
then
put
the
sand
seal
coat
and
we
leave
it
to
cure
in
place
for
about
four
to
five
days
right
at
that
time,
and
the
road
is
not
closed.
You
can
still
drive
on
the
road
once
the
density
and
the
curing
period
is
done.
We
check
the
density
and
then
over
an
asphaltic
surface
is
placed
over
the
road,
so
that
process
is
a
very
expensive
process.
I
That's
the
reason
why,
in
the
previous
workshop,
you
heard
that
the
number
is
around
800
000
to
a
million
dollars
for
that
we
had
a
consult
contractor
who
went
out
there
who
worked
for
the
county,
who
had
done
a
lot
of
work
for
the
county
and
and
and
some
to
county
in
many
places
we
called
him
here.
He
did
some
corn,
you
look
at
the
road
condition.
I
He
sent
the
report
and
is
similar
to
what
we
have
construct
well
in
the
country
in
a
similar
state
of
road,
and
that
was
his
recommendation
as
well,
and
that
recommend
recognition
was
supported
by
the
ims
team
as
well.
So
with
that
explanation,
some
of
the
road
that
you
see
that
we
selected
here
came
from
the
study
itself.
I
In
places
we
tried
to
distribute
these
roads,
not
in
one
area
but
throughout
the
world.
Well,
the
city.
In
order
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
distribute
where
all
all
this
so
spread.
The
money
around
in
terms
of
the
roadway-
and
the
second
thing
that
we
have
done
here
right
is
to
see
areas
like
in
a
subdivision
where
we
can.
I
You
know
integrate
a
few
of
these
roads
right
as
grouping,
so
we
only
go
so
we
can
only
get
in
the
submission
one
time
and
fix
all
those
roads
and
it's
very
ease
of
construction
and
ease
of
paying
to
the
citizen
as
well,
rather
than
do
piecemeal
of
road
there.
So
so
that's
you
will
see
some
of
these
slides
that
I'm
going
through
it
here.
L
I
I
So
the
first
road
we
we
have
a
family
overlay
is
amanda.
Borjas
is
from
apopka
boulevard
is
shown
in
the
blue
there,
as
was
one
the
next
one
is
cleveland
street,
which,
from
west
orange
trail
to
sheila
avenue
it
was
discussed
in
the
presentation
from
david
fall
in
the
aerial
estate.
You
can
see
all
those
roads
around
there,
which
is
errol
parkway
from
lake
francis
drive
to
old,
dixie,
lexington
parkway
from
aero
parkway
to
parkside
and
boulevard
lexington
parkway.
I
I
I
I
Let
me
go
back
here
because
I
think
I
made
a
mistake
here
this
road
here
that
I'm
recommending
here
is
for
cape
seal
and
microsurface
for
treatment.
The
previous
road,
I
said,
familiar
overlay
right.
I
described
the
melanoma
as
you
remove
the
pavement
right
and
you
replace
them
with
new
new
surface.
This
hair
is
treatment.
I
That
is,
the
existing
pavement
is
really
degraded,
but
is
structurally
sound
still,
so
we
are
going
to
apply
either
cape
seal
of
microsurfacing
to
preserve
that
pavement
together
at
the
last
five
to
seven
years
more,
as
recommended
from
the
study
itself
it.
So
those
are
the
streets
for
the
downtown
area.
I
I
You
have
pine
of
archival,
you
have
falcon
crest
boulevard,
falcon
wood,
cord
nightwood
drive
and
chapel
wood
drive,
they're
all
listed
well
in
orange,
and
now
we're
getting
ready
future
funding
for
yellow
road.
As
you
know,
I
describe
here-
and
I
think
they
david
have
suggested
this
road
have
a
pci,
I
think
is
below
40..
I
think
he
mentioned,
which
main
that
the
road
base
is
also
compromised
as
well
at
the
surface.
So
this
is
the
process
I
describe
as
cool
in
place
right.
It's
a
process
of
recycling
the
existing
pavement.
I
The
estimate
cost
is
around
800k
to
1
million.
We
do
not
have
a
contractor
on
board,
yet
this
was
estimated
based
on
the
experience
and
and
looking
at
some
of
the
company
cost,
because
because
this
is
a
specialized
treatment,
once
we
have
a
contract
on
board
right
and
the
cost
could
be
slightly
lower
or
or
or
up
to
a
million,
it
depends
on
the
cost
of
that
contract.
I
So
this
is
the
entire
road
that
we
are
going
to
do
is
from
us
441
to
joshua
rain.
And
if
you
see
this
is
a
wash
road,
this
is
your
popcorn
right
now
they
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
and
the
pay
event
is
gone
and
you
have
a
lot
of
base
issues
as
well
now,
for
fiscal
year,
22
23,
which
is
the
next
fiscal
year.
I
I
I
I
I
I
may
recommend,
for
example,
a
micro
surfacing,
but
when
I,
when
we
visit
well
the
site
that
the
pavement
structure
is
compromised
more
and
to
be
better
in
the
proactive
way,
it
will
be
most
cost
benefit
for
us
to
do
it
male
and
overly.
So
it
it
it's
something
that
we
that
will
be
changing
in
time.
C
A
I
I
Now
we
don't
have
contractor
who
can
do
who
can
perform
the
milan
overlay?
Neither
does
the
calling
plays
so
those
number
was
taken
from
a
regional
database
that
I
review.
When
we
get
the
contract
on
board,
maybe
those
costs
can
be
lower
or
higher.
I
don't
know
so
I
wouldn't
mind
if
you
send
me
those
roads
to
be
kept
into
my
spreadsheet,
but
I
wouldn't
promise
you
that
I
would
have
the
funding
anything
to
do
it
if
possible
and
we
are
in
the
neighborhood,
and
that
was
one
to
be
missed.
A
B
M
B
The
others
is
real
key
just
because
of
the
area
of
growth
and
what's
happening
there.
You
know
so
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
on
the
list
and
it's
a
pretty
bad
road
yeah,
that's
what
you
go
through
it,
but
I
I
I'm
pleased
too
that,
along
with
the
analysis,
it
seems
to
be
evenly
spread
throughout
the
city,
so.
A
H
C
A
D
O
L
L
You
know,
obviously,
we
hired
ims
to
do
this
analysis
for
us
on
an
ongoing
model.
How
are
you
and
your
staff
going
to
be
able
to
do
this
without
the
aid
of
ims,
or
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
do?
We
have
to
always
have
constant
engagement
with
a
service
provider
to
give
us
gradient
on
our
roadways,
or
do
you
have
the
expertise
to
go
out
and
say:
okay,
this
road's
a
75,
this
one's
an
85,
this
one's
a
32.
You
know
how
does
that
look
like
on
a
go
forward
basis.
I
But,
put
that
aside,
the
the
study
itself
is
a
good
basis
for
us.
You
want
to
give
an
inventory.
It
gives
you
a
baseline
of
the
condition
of
the
road
and
none
of
those
road
baseline
that
you
can
even
use.
As
what
the
report
said,
you
have
to
visit
these
roads
and,
after
you
visit
this
road,
the
condition
of
the
pavement
distress
changes.
I
You
will
see
base
failure
and
you
will
make
that
determination.
So
in
answering
to
your
question
that
we
are
not
basing
solely
on
the
model,
the
model
give
us
a
baseline,
but
it
is
going
to
based
on
on
this
field,
on
our
staff
experience,
I
myself
will
we'll
be
going
we'll
be
going
out
there.
We
also
would
get
some
input
from
the
contractors,
and
those
were
all
will
be
in
combination
right
to
decide
what
is
the
best
mechanism
for
us
to
fix
that
road.
L
So,
but
and
then
and
great
and
then
from
our
own
expectation
and
again
it
was
a
little.
I
put
it
into
me
when
we
said
that
the
analysis
was
done
in
july.
The
budget
proposal
was
in
september,
so
to
me,
that's
a
two-month
swing.
Where
else
I
felt
like
we
were
waiting
for
a
year,
because
that
was
what
we
were
instructed
as
a
council,
because
this
thing
was
going
to
last
a
year.
I
I
If
you
want
to
include-
and
you
want
to
have
a
fully
integrated
model,
you
have
to
put
growth
that
will
be
coming
into
into
the
neighborhood.
You
have
to
add
the
increasing
traffic
density
right
that
you
were
getting.
None
of
those
was
included
in
this
model.
All
of
those
are
going
to
compromise
existing
road.
B
Do
it's
a
nerdy
question
and
I
probably
know
the
answer,
but
on
some
of
the
pictures
that
were
presented.
Obviously,
you
see
mountains
in
the
background
you
see
different
regions
of
the
nation,
but
the
analysis,
the
truck
that
now
analyzes
the
roads.
This
is
based
upon
central
florida
and
how
our
roads
are
affected
by
weather,
I'm
assuming
even
though
it
looked
like
they
were
from
different
parts
of
the
nation.
Does
that
because
roads
such
as
in
desert
areas,
arid
areas
or
snow.
P
Q
Q
Q
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval
of
the
popcorn
city
center
south
construction
site
plan,
subject
to
the
applicants,
satisfying
satisfying
the
attached
development
review
committee
comments.
Additional
comments
were
discussed
at
the
drc
that
also
need
to
be
completed
prior
to
final
approval.
G
L
The
fact
is-
and
this
is
kind
of
odd
for
us
to
see
this
in
a
the
presentation
piece
right-
we're
seeing
stuff
that
we're
not
officially
taking
a
vote
on
right,
because
the
stance
of
staff
is
that
the
development
agreement
and
that
allows
staff
to
make
these
decisions
at
the
staff
and
drc
level.
So
I
don't
want
to
confuse
people
by
thinking
that
we're
making
a
decision
as
a
council
we're
not.
L
This
is
just
an
informal
overview
of
what's
going
on
and
it's
it's
a
little
frustrating,
because
I
know
that
this
this
thing
has
been
a
pretty
fluid
development
over
the
past
six
years,
and
so
one
of
the
only
question
I
do
have
is
it's
my
understanding
that
the
parcel
that
the
the
retail
building
and
the
the
proposed
brew
pub
restaurant
is
still
currently
owned
by
the
city
and
not
the
applicant.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
P
They,
the
tourist
development
group,
applied
for
a
basically
a
permissions
permission
slip
to
apply
for
those
on
the
city's
behalf
in
order
to
get
it
through
the
review
process
prior
to
any
any
type
of
formal
approval
by
by
drc
or
the
development
review
committee
and
staff
and
before
they
can
actually
pull
any
site
work
or
building
permits.
They
do
have
to
actually
purchase
the
property
correct.
P
L
P
P
On
the
east
side
over
here,
there's
actually
a
retaining
a
small
retaining
wall
here,
so
that
this
actually
drops
down
about
another
three
three
and
a
half
feet,
and
they
felt
that
this
would
because
they
do
have
the
water
feature.
That's
actually
right
here.
Also,
they
thought
that
would
still
the
ambiance
would
would
still
end
up
being.
P
P
P
According
to
the
the
architectural
elevations
you'll
notice,
there
they've
got
a
a
few
different
units
up
in
here,
so
they
could
pop
one
two
three
four
pace,
possibly
five
different
users
in
there
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
this
does
do
compared
to
one
of
a
couple
of
the
different
drawings
that
we've
had
or
that
we've
been
shown
is.
It
is
one
building
versus
multiple
buildings,
so
the
connectivity
between
businesses
is
a
little
bit
easier
to
do.
P
Instead
of
having
to
go
out
of
curb
up
a
curb
over
to
one
unit,
then
down
a
curb
up
a
curve
to
another
unit,
and
it
just
keeps
it
all
a
little
bit
easier
to
to
maneuver
and
then,
of
course,
we
do
have
the
con.
The
connections
to
the
brew,
pub
we've
got
connections
here
and
then
right
across
the
way
is
the
the
hotel
and
then
the
highland
manor.
P
So
and
then
the
the
applicant
or
taurus
is
also
looking
at
a
couple
other
restaurants
for
the
area
to
go
on
the
north
side
of
main
street.
We
also
have
a
couple
lots
over
on
the
west
side
of
mcgee
that
are
are
still
up
for
development,
and
then
they
are
also
looking
for
another
restaurant
on
right
off
the
sixth
street
on
the
south
side
of
the
highland
manor,
so
they're
they're
working
on
this.
This
is
actually
a
little
bit
faster
than
what
we
expected
in
regards
to
the
last
development
agreement.
P
Yes,
they
actually
are.
They
actually
exceed
our
current
code.
They
have
stacking
for
about
10
parking,
10
10
cars.
Are
we
just
increased
that
to
eight
at
the
last
switch
amendment
glitch
amendment
number
three,
so
they
they
actually
do
and
then
the
or
order
kiosk
is
over
on
the
back
side
and
the
pickup
is
on
the
east
side,
so
that
also
meets
code.
It
doesn't.
It
is
not
in
direct
view
of
any
of
the
actual
roadways.
C
P
B
A
P
P
P
C
A
Okay,
so
anyway
we
were
going
to
meet
with
a
restaurant
that
that
wants
to
move
into
that
that
little
section
there
so
we're
you
know
we're
hoping
you
know
something
comes
to
fruition
on
on
a
standalone
restaurant
there
as
well
so
anytime,
yeah,
so
yeah
but
anyway.
So
thanks
for
coming
up
craig
and
thanks
for
your
team
and
what
y'all
are
doing,
you
got
it
awesome.
Thank
you
all
right.
A
A
A
R
R
R
The
reason
why
I'm
here
tonight
is
because
last
time
I
was
here,
I
spoke
about
backflow,
preventers
and
cross
cross
connection
programs
and
since
you
guys
had
a
presentation
that
was
put
on,
I
filed
a
complaint
with
the
dep
which
you
people
are
aware
of
the
dep,
come
out
and
did
inspections,
and
you
all
reported
that
you
had
a
settlement
agreement
with
the
dep
well.
There
was
a
few
things
that
weren't
accurate
about
that
number
one.
The
city
attorney
said
that
there
was
no
fine
at
all
for
the
cross
connection
violations.
R
I
went
back
and
listened
to.
It
said
that's
what
it
said
on
there:
no
fines
at
all.
Now,
when
you
look
at
the
actual
document,
the
document
itself
says
that
there
were
four
violations
in
each
violation.
There
was
a
minimum
of
a
two
thousand
dollar
fine.
I
think
the
people
in
apartment
need
to
know
how
that
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
adds
up.
What
exactly
was
the
city
fined
for
also
the
dep
only
addressed
three
years?
I
really
believe
they
addressed
17,
18
and
19..
Well,
just
just
just
for
the
record.
R
The
city
of
apopka,
going
all
the
way
back
to
2004
has
not
been
doing
what
they
were
supposed
to
do.
Concerning
these
cross-connection
ordinances
and
I'll
make
it
very
simple.
The
city
attorney
said
that
it
was
not
the
city's
responsibility,
nowhere
that
should
they
go
out
and
they're
required
to
inspect
people's
homes.
No
they're,
not,
but
it's
your
job
to
make
sure
that
the
homeowners
get
those
inspections
done.
And
what
do
you
do
you
mail
out
warning
letters?
If
they
don't
do
it,
you
send
another
letter.
R
If
they
don't
do
it,
then
then
you
go
out
and
shut.
The
water
off,
and
I've
heard
the
argument
that,
while
this
ordinance
doesn't
have
any
bite
well
it
has,
it
has
bite
insane
pete.
It
has
bite
and
tampa.
It
has
bite
in
all
these
other
areas.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
this?
You
all
know
my
wife
died
from
cancer.
Okay,
my
backflow
preventer
failed
inspection
in
the
year
2013..
R
I
lived
in
that
house
for
six
years.
Almost
seven
years
before
I
ever
received
a
notice.
How
can
the
city
of
apopka
not
be
doing
what
the
dep
has
mandated
so
brian
nelson,
when
he
got
elected?
He
was
well
aware
of
these
backflow
preventers
because
we
talked
about
him.
I
asked
him:
what
does
the
city
do?
He
says
I
don't
know
what
the
city
does,
but
you
know
the
the
county
inspects
inspects
them
themselves.
R
Well,
I
can't
understand
why,
when
brian
was
elected,
he
did
not
come
in
and
address
the
backflow
preventers
find
out
why
this
was
not
being
done
on
a
regular
basis.
Also
who's
going
to
be
held
accountable
for
this.
Do
you
have
a
34
thousand
dollar
fine?
Now
I
know
you're
going
to
buy
a
vehicle
that
you
probably
don't
need
to
make
up
for
it,
but
who
in
the
city
is
responsible
for
not
doing
this?
Who
is
the
person?
Is
it
glenn
brooks?
Is
it
edward
bass
was?
R
Listen,
I've
had
an
argument
for
six
years
I've
been
battling
for
six
years,
trying
to
get
you
people
to
look
into
what
you
all
are
required
to
do.
What
brian's
doing
here,
brian's,
not
fixing
this
the
dep
come
in
and
they're
telling
you
you
have
to
fix
this
problem.
You
have
so
much
time
to
fix
it
and
if
you
don't
get
it
fixed
within
a
certain
amount
of
time
they
are
going
to
fine
you.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
think
all
of
you
have
an
obligation
to
find
out.
How
did
this
happen?
R
Why
did
it
happen
because
you're
going
to
lay
out
all
this
money
that
whatever
it
is,
even
though
you
don't
have
to
pay
it
to
the
dep,
you
still
have
to
buy
a
car,
you
truly
don't
need.
So
I
think
that
somebody
owes
an
answer
to
the
public
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
brian
you're
this
you're,
the
mayor
of
this
town,
for
you
to
tell
the
residents
that
the
water
meets
all
standards
and
passes
all
tests.
That's
fine
and
dandy,
but
you're
doing
the
inspections
at
the
water
plant.
R
It
has
no
effect
if
this
has
happened
in
the
neighborhoods
and
let
me
just
say
one
more
thing.
I
had
asked
you
just
after
you
got
elected.
I
said
brian
if
you
can
get
these
cross
connection
things
back
in
order
scheduled
on
time,
and
if
you
can
start
doing
inspections
in
the
neighborhood.
I
can
move
on
in
my
life
I'm
here
tonight.
I
flew
down
here
because
I
think
it's
important
to
tell
the
people
the
truth.
R
I
I
think
it's
very
clear
what
I've
been
trying
to
say,
but
I
think
it's
important
you
hold
the
public.
You
need
to
be
honest
with
these
people,
you
don't
need
to
be
misleading.
These
people
tell
them
what
to
find
refer.
When
you
got
the
city
attorney
telling
them
that
that
nobody
got
a
brian,
you
can
smile
all
you
want,
but
that's
the
truth.
He
told
us
in
this
room
that
the
city
was
not
fined
for
the
cross
connection
and
ask
him
he's
right
here.
Why
don't
you
ask
him?
Ask.
R
A
S
Right,
the
matter
of
the
fine
was
discussed
with
this
council.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
commissioner
bankston
and
I
had
a
back
and
forth
discussing
that
there
was
the
amount
of
the
fine.
What
was
the
offset
the
p2
program
we
were
going
to
submit?
Secondly,
the
consent
order
was
presented
in
your
packets
and
was
in
front
of
you.
There's
no
wool,
I'm
not
trying
to
pull
the
wool
over
anybody's
eyes.
S
M
Good
evening
council,
my
name
is
stell
bailey
and
I
am
from
cocoa
florida.
I
am.
The
executive
director
of
fight
for
zero
is
a
non-profit
organization
that
works
on
environmental
health
and
I'm
also
a
nationally
recognized
advocate
who
works
with
aaron
brockovich,
and
I
also
work
with
a
national
coalition
on
these
water
contamination
issues
and
that's
what
I'm
here
tonight
to
discuss.
M
M
I
want
to
talk
about
the
12
people
that
died
in
a
community
in
your
city,
how
it
was
discovered
that
the
city
wasn't
doing
yearly
inspections
of
their
backflow
preventers
in
that
area
and
when
you
did,
it
failed.
The
cancers
these
neighbors
were
diagnosed
with
were
of
the
endocrine
system
and
nurseries,
surrounded
their
neighborhood.
M
Pesticides
and
herbicides
are
endocrine
disruptors,
and
there
are
numerous
studies
done
in
lake
apopka
about
deformities.
In
wildlife,
for
instance,
the
alligator
population
declined
dramatically
from
1980
to
1987.,
endocrine
disrupting
chemicals,
like
ddt
were
causing
alligators
to
have
reproductive
failure.
Lake
apopka
was
the
recipient
of
pesticide
pollution
for
50
years.
At
one
time
it
was
one
of
the
state's
most
polluted
lakes
I'm
bringing
this
up,
because
contamination
doesn't
stay
within
a
fence
line,
water
moves
and
so
do
contaminants.
M
Chemicals
do
not
know
boundaries.
Did
you
know
also
that
one
of
the
worst
bird
deaths
known
in
the
united
states?
History
happened
right
here
in
apopka?
Look
it
up
if
you
don't
know
that
the
former
agricultural
land
used
ddt
and
chemicals
regularly.
In
fact,
pcbs,
not
just
pesticides
were
also
measured
in
alligator
eggs
collected
in
1984..
M
Some
of
these
chemicals
are
classified
as
a
probable
human
carcinogen
and
known
to
be
very
persistent,
very
persistent
in
the
environment,
I'm
actually
versed
in
perfluorinated
compounds
and
pfas.
I
work
on
collecting
scientific
data
on
water
quality
and
I'm
working
with
the
university
of
florida
on
a
three-year
study.
I
work
across
the
state
of
florida
on
these
water
to
quality
issues.
Pesticides
pollute
water
supplies,
affect
wildlife
and
cause
disease.
M
Chronic
exposures
to
harmful
chemicals
can
cause
long-term
health
effects,
including
cancer,
which
may
not
be
identified
for
many
years
after
the
exposure
environmentally
induced
cancer
can
take
15
to
20
years
to
develop,
which
is
why
it's
extremely
difficult
to
connect
environmentally
cause
cancers.
That's
why
the
doh
never
ever
says,
there's
a
cancer
cluster,
because
it's
very
difficult
and
we
have
to
recognize
that,
but
we
also
have
to
recognize
there
could
be
a
hidden
danger
there,
especially
if
the
backflow,
preventers,
weren't
working
and
the
contaminants
could
have
potentially
been
getting
inside
these
homes.
M
M
If
you
have
contempt,
if
you
have
contamination
issues,
what
we
do
with
phifers
air
is
we
come
into
communities
like
this
that
have
concerns
and
we
provide
them
the
resources
that
they
need
to
take
on
these
challenges
without
relying
on
agencies
or
the
local
government.
We
have
experts,
hydrogeologists,
epidemiologists
doctors,
environmental
scientists,
that
we
work
alongside
to
go
and
do
testing
in
these
neighborhoods
to
help
them
get
answers
so
that
they
can
get
closure
on
their
questions
that
are
that
are
being
asked.
Okay,
thank.
M
M
Absolutely
would
you
like
me
to
tell
you
sure
sure,
in
so
simple
terms-
and
I
put
this
on
my
tic
toc,
which
has
45
000
followers.
A
backflow
preventer
prevents
irrigation
water
from
contaminating
your
drinking
water.
Normally
water
flows
from
the
water
production
facility
to
your
home,
but
when
water
flows
in
reverse
it
does
it
does
the
opposite,
and
there
are
cross
connections
where
undrinkable
water
can
actually
be
connected
to
the
drinkable
water.
The
cross
connection
can
provide
a
pathway
for
backflow
of
undrinkable
water
to
go
into
your
drink.
A
A
M
A
Okay,
anybody
else,
susan,
okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Next
up,
we
got
the
consent
agenda.
Anybody
need
to
pull
these
items
off
the
consent
agenda
nope,
if
not
look
for
a
motion
to
prove
the
six
items
on
consent.
Some
move
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
bankston,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
G
T
I
have
two
quick
agenda
items,
I'll
start
by
apologizing
for
the
first
one.
I
should
have
brought
this
last
time.
I
was
here
it
might
have
lessened
the
sour
flavor
of
the
discussion
about
the
agreement
we
had
with
the
expressway
authority.
If
I
told
you
that
they
were
giving
us
one
and
a
half
acres
of
property
for
free,
it
might
have
not
sounded
so
bad.
We
went
there.
We
we
needed
the
property
along.
T
T
It's
this
piece
right
here,
it's
hard
to
see
here,
but
it's
the
piece
in
yellow
we
own
the
piece
along
the
back
edge,
but
we
need
this
little
piece
in
here
and
so
that's
you
can
see
the
the
area
and-
and
this
is
the
sketch
from
the
legal
description-
and
so
this
is
their
standard,
right-of-way
transfer
and
continuing
maintenance
agreement.
There's
really
nothing
additional
to
maintain
it's
a
we're
going
to
put
a
road
there.
T
B
G
A
D
T
My
next
request:
it
has
to
do
with
a
new
half
interchange
on
state
road
429.
This
is
at
it
would
be
to
benion
road
just
a
little
bit
south
of
boy
scout
road,
and
this
is
a
step
in
the
process.
We've
actually
been
talking
with
expressway
about
this
for
six
months.
Maybe
I
I
think
it's
been
about
that
long.
T
T
They
had
their
consultant,
look
at
it
and
found
out
that
it
meets
their
bonding
requirements
and
it's
cost
feasible.
It's
a
20
to
25
million
dollar
project,
the
other
big
part
of
this,
and
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
their
ability
to
bond.
It
is
the
development
on
this
side
is
known
as
the
ridge
they
have
a
an
industrial
component.
That's
somewhere
around
here,
so
they're,
very
enthusiastic
about
this
they're
working
with
us
related
to
right
away,
redesigning
a
little
bit
of
their
site
so
that
we
can
have
an
interchange
here.
T
We
can't
line
up
with
boy
scout
road
because
this
development
has
been
approved
by
council
and
they
would
have
to
take
like
six
houses
and
when,
when
you
go
through
the
whole
eminent
domain
process,
you're
probably
talking
six
million
dollars.
So
it
was
easier
to
come
down
this
way
and
we
have
a
willing
partner
here.
They've
looked
at
two,
I
turned
it
around,
so
it
was
a
little
easier
to
see
than
what's
in
your
packet.
They
did
two
concepts.
One
is
a
roundabout
and
one
was
the
one.
I
just
showed
a
signal.
T
No
decisions
have
been
made,
but
they
are
going
to
put
it
in
their
plan
that
gets
approved
by
expressway
board
in
april.
It's
fully
supported
by
staff,
and
they
expect
that
they
can
start
a
study.
They
just
put
a
consultant
under
contract
they're,
going
to
do
what's
called
a
pd
e
light
and
they
want
to
get
that
started
right
away.
Worst
case
scenario,
I
think
we'd
see
ramps
in
four
years.
T
Strip
purchased
one
strip
and
they're
talking
about
purchasing
another
and
then
making
the
right-of-way
donations.
I
that
could
be
escalated
as
much
as
two
years,
so
the
next
step
for
us
is
for
the
the
mayor
to
send
a
letter
actually
requesting
this,
even
though
we've
been
talking
about
it.
There's
this
formal
process
and
I
included
a
draft
letter.
So
you
get
an
idea
of
the
kind
of
letter
that
expressway
is
looking
for.
It's
not
finalized,
but.
T
Anyway,
it's
it's
a
project
that
that
I
recommend
that
area
is
growing,
it's
great
for
the
fire
department,
they're
enthusiastic
about
it
because
of
their
iso
rating
and
the
time
it
saves
them
going
to
and
from
the
north
to
the
hospital.
The
hospital
is
enthusiastic
about
it.
It
helps
people,
it
makes
the
hospital
more
visible.
It's
a
more
direct
route.
There
are
a
lot
of
benefits.
The
best
part,
though,
is
it
costs
us
nothing.
T
L
No,
I
mean
I've
probably
brought
this
up
before
and
it's
my
own
confusion.
So
I
apologize
so
it
doesn't
impact
the
limitations
that
the
vacava
parkway
was
under
when
it
was
first
built
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
interchanges
or
on-ramps
off-ramps
that
there's
no
concern
there,
because
you
know,
I
know
probably
five
or
six
years
ago
lake
county
had
wanted
to
make.
G
L
T
H
B
C
H
P
A
T
B
T
T
A
B
A
V
Ordinance
number
2877
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
amending
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
apopka
by
amending
part
3
land
development
code,
article
2
administration,
section,
2.4,
standard
review
procedures,
subsection
2.4.2,
pre-application
community
meeting,
providing
for
the
removal
of
the
pre-application
requirement
by
amending
part.
Three
article,
three
zoning
districts,
section
3.2
agricultural
and
transitional
use
based
zoning
districts.
V
Subsection
3.2.3
ag
agricultural
district
to
modify
setback
requirements
by
amending
part
3
article
3,
section,
3.3
residential
base;
zoning
districts,
subsection
3.3.4,
rsf-1a
residential
single-family
estate
district
to
modify
with
requirements
by
amending
part.
Three
article
3,
section
3.3,
subsection,
3.3.5,
rs1b,
rsf-1b
residential
single-family
district
large
lot
to
modify
lot
with
requirements
by
amending
part
3
article
3,
section,
3.3,
subsection,
3.3.6,
rtf,
residential
2
family
district
to
modify
lot
with
and
setback
requirements
by
amending
part
3.
Article
3,
section,
3.3,
subsection,
3.3.7,
rmf
residential
multifamily
district
to
modify
lot
with
and
setback
requirements
by
amending
part.
V
Point
standards
by
amending
part
3
article
5,
section,
5.13,
subsection,
5.13.5
private
streets
to
modify
automatic
opening
device
standards
by
amending
part
3
article
10
definitions
and
rules
of
measurement,
section,
10.2,
rules
of
measurement,
subsection,
10.2.4
exceptions
and
variations
to
modify
measurement
requirements
by
amending
part.
3.
Article
10,
section
10.4
definitions
to
define
cigar
bars
by
amending
part
three
appendix
a
mixed
use.
Kelly
park,
interchange,
mu,
kpi
form,
base
code,
section,
f,
permitted
standards,
stat
permitted
users
permitted
uses
to
modify
permitted
uses
okay
by
amending
part.
V
Three
appendix
a
section
k,
building
design
standards,
subsection
g
single
family
residential
to
modify
rear
loading,
lots
standards
by
amending
part
three
appendix
b;
drought,
tolerant
grasses
list
to
add
florida
friendly
landscaping.
Ground
cover
standards
by
amending
part,
3,
appendix
d
development
design
guidelines,
section,
4.2.3,
billing,
building
facades,
fenestration
to
modify
reflective
glass
standards
providing
for
codification,
providing
for
several
ability
providing
for
conflicts
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
V
P
P
She
recommended
two
actually
be
removed
from
the
appendix
b,
which
is
the
ground
cover
portion,
one
of
those,
and
it
was
actually
highlighted
or
pointed
out
that
it's
a
very
flammable
type
of
ground
cover.
So
anybody
if
anybody
has
any
juniper
conifer,
also
known
as
shore
juniper,
it
is
considered
highly
flammable
flammable,
and
the
recommendation
in
the
in
the
report
was
to
don't
plant
it
within
30
feet
of
a
fence
or
a
house.
P
P
This
is
considered
an
annual
and
shouldn't
be
considered
a
as
a
ground
cover
since
it
dies
off
you
can
you
can
use
it
as
part
of
a
ground
cover
bed
or
planting
bed,
but
not
as
a
primary
ground
cover,
so
the
recommendation
for
that
was
to
just
simply
take
those
off
of
appendix
b,
which
is
what
I
did
so.
The
copy
from
the
december
1st
has
those
your
copy,
which
is
the
ones
to
want
to
approve
tonight,
does
not
have
those
two
items.
A
D
S
Michael
good
evening,
michael
rodriguez
city
attorney,
there
is
one
minor
change,
and
this
was
based
on
the
conversation
and
the
suggestions
that
were
presented
during
first
reading.
The
two
minor
changes
are
I'll
point
them
out
to
you.
It's
on
your
agenda,
page
211,
and
it's
to
section.
What
would
be
point
two
point.
Three
point
e
point,
four
point
e
four:
that
was
the
standards
for
food
trucks
operating
on
private
property.
Originally
we
just
had
the
spacing
requirement
that
if
you
were
on
private
property,
it
had
to
be
50
feet.
S
Unless
there
was
a
non-residential
structure
between
the
truck
and
the
residential
structure
in
which
then
that
buffer
could
be
removed
to
50.,
there
were
some
questions
regarding
of
the
operation
of
food
trucks
on
properties
containing
a
residential
structure,
because
there
are
at
a
minimum
two.
Maybe
at
least
two
of
the
zoning
districts
that
enumerated
in
the
code
which
permit
a
food
truck
to
be
a
permitted
use,
can
have
residential
structures
or
have
non-conforming
residential
structures.
S
So
we've
added
then
a
separate
category
and
standard,
which
is
a
food
truck
placed
on
a
property
that
has
a
residential
structure.
One
has
to
have
the
consent
of
the
property
owner
and
then,
secondly,
has
to
have
the
written
consent
of
all
residential
properties
within
150
foot
radius
of
that
building.
That
was
a
the
issue
that
was
brought
up
in
first
reading
and
a
consensus
that
was
added.
S
The
second
issue
that
was
added
is
the
next
subsection
which
would
be
sub
sub
five,
and
that
was
what
commission
rebecca
brought
up,
which
would
allow
for
a
resident
or
a
business
if
they
wish
to
hire
a
mobile
food
vendor
for
catering
purposes,
and
the
caveat
is
for
private
catering.
They
can
bring
the
food
truck
in
this
case
in
any
residential
property
or
on
a
business
that
is
not
within
the
permitted
zones
for
a
for
the
sole
purpose
of
private
catering.
S
They
would
then
be
subject
to
a
special
event,
permit
a
special
use
permit
or
attempt
I'm
sorry
special
event
permit
or
a
temporary
use
permit.
That
would
fall
along
the
current
standards
and
guidelines
in
the
in
the
land
development
code.
For
those
permits,
and
then
there
would
be
additional
categories,
additional
restrictions,
which
would
be
that
you
can
only
hire
one
food
truck
to
cater
your
party.
You
cannot
have
a
cannot
create
food
truck
wars
on
your
front
yard,
with
four
food
trucks
for
your
private
party.
S
Also,
if
a
food
truck
is
being
hired
for
a
private
event,
there
can
be
no
sales,
no
public
sales.
The
food
is
limited
to
the
patrons
of
the
event.
It
is
basically
you're
a
private
caterer
coming
onto
someone's
property
and
therefore
your
truck
constitutes
a
catering
service
on
the
property
that
would
now
permit
hoas.
If
they
wanted
to
have
a
a
private
function,
they
can
then
bring
a
food
truck
for
that
for
that
event
for
the
sole
purposes
of
private
catering.
So
those
were
the
two
additions
that
were
made
aside
from
that.
C
A
G
V
L
A
C
E
My
grandparents
and
great-grandparents
helped
establish
apopka
they're,
some
of
the
founders
of
this
city.
I'm
glad
they're
not
here
to
see.
What's
happened
to
it
because
it's
heartbreaking-
and
I
know
my
grandma
matt
would
be
furious,
but
to
come
to
my
point,
these
apartments
that
they're
wanting
to
put
in
by
us
will
take
our
only
when
we
have
one
one
road
for
an
entrance
and
an
exit.
It's
a
very
short
small
road
where
agriculture
out
where
we
are,
we
kind
of
like
to
keep
our
lifestyle.
E
E
We
deserve
to
feel
safe
in
our
own
homes
and
not
feel
threatened,
and
I
think
that's
that's
very
important,
the
subdivision
that
is
coming
next
to
where
they're
putting
theirs.
It
was
stated
in
the
last
meeting
that
I
was
trying
to
have
the
exit
or
an
entrance
moved
to
go
with
that.
That's
going
in
the
subdivision.
She
said
well,
it's
under
construction
and
it
would
be
unfair.
E
A
lot
of
people
won't
get
up
here
and
speak
from
my
neighborhood
because
they
think
you
can't
fight
city
hall.
Well,
I'm
hard-headed
southerner,
so
I'm
going
to
give
it
a
shot
anyway,
but
I
I
was
hoping
these.
These
companies
have
lots
of
money
that
they
can
throw
at
people
to
get
whatever
they
want.
W
Good
evening,
commissioners
and
mr
mayor,
my
name
is
terry
weatherman.
I
live
at
4125,
wilkins
street
and
my
property
is
adjacent
to
this
proposed
project
on
the
east
side,
in
fact,
my
property
borders,
this
property
entire
in
its
entirety
on
the
east
side
and,
as
mrs
mccormick
stated,
our
primary
concern
here
is
is
the
ingress
and
the
egress
that
was
proposed
with
this
project,
in
conjunction
with
that,
this
project
is
doesn't
seem
to
be
conducive
with
the
community
as
a
whole.
Being
a
residential
project,
that's
pushed
to
the
border
of
of
orange
blossom
trail
441..
W
W
I
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
create
an
ingress
and
egress
of
residential
community
in
that
area
and
accommodate
that
I
mean
d.o.t
would
have
to
you
know,
get
involved
completely,
because
it's
tough
to
do
it
now
and
if
you
incorporate
50,
more
residents
or
cars
he's
proposing,
I
think
45
apartments
on
three
acres,
which
that
density
seems
to
be
a
little
excessive
to
me.
So
those
are
my
concerns
and
I
appreciate
your
time.
A
N
This
for
the
record
bobby
howell
planning
manager
what
their
what
the
request
is,
is
a
rezoning
of
the
property
tonight.
That's
all
that's
being
considered
rezoning
of
the
property
to
mixed
uc
short
gateway
property
currently
has
a
future
land
use
designation
of
mixed
use
so
per
our
land
development
code.
The
future
land
use
has
to
be
consistent
with
the
zoning.
The
only
zoning
that
is
would
be
consistent
with
the
underlying
future
land
use
of
mixed
use
is
the
mixed,
uc
short
gateway.
N
They
have
told
us
they
want
to
develop
apartments
on
the
property,
but
being
that
would
be
rezoned
to
mixed
uc
short
gateway.
It
could
be
a
whole
laundry
list
of
uses
that
are
in
that
district
they
could
be
commercial
could
be
residential
just
because
they
have
said
apartments
in
the
future.
It
might
not
be
apartments.
N
So
that's
really
kind
of
the
background
on
this.
All
that's
being
considered
tonight
is
rezoning.
No
development
plans
have
been
submitted
to
the
city.
We
have
had
a
meeting
with
the
applicant
where
they've
showed
their
conceptual
plan
to
us
we're
going
to
have
another
meeting
with
them,
sometime
probably
after
the
first
of
the
year.
A
But
they
they
to
to
build
apartments,
they
have
to
come
back
to
city
council,
so
it's
there's.
No!
So
what
we're
doing
tonight,
if
we
approve
it,
is
we're
we're
getting
the
zoning
and
and
the
land
use
to
match.
Correct,
yes,
ma'am
and
we'll
make
sure
you
get
a
notice
on
the
next
next
year,
but
I
just
want
everybody
to
understand.
You
know
that
what
we're
doing
is
just
basically,
you
know,
making
them
even
and
then,
and
then,
when
we
come
back.
A
H
B
N
S
I
mean
if
a
application
is
made
and
it
meets
the
standard,
it
meets
those
objective
standards
for
approval.
Then
it's
I
mean
it's,
but
denial
of
it
has
to
be
based
on
competent,
substantial
evidence.
So
I
I,
without
speaking
in
any
type
of
hypothetical,
that's
what
the
standards
will
be
when,
when
they'll
be
presented.
S
L
S
L
So
it's
right,
I
just
don't
want
people
to
think
it's
as
binary
as
it
meets
the
letter
t,
and
it
has
to
be
why
I
mean
it's:
it's
we
have
a
council
up
here
for
a
reason.
We
have
to
look
at
what's
going
in
around
it
if
it's
compatible
uses
whatever
the
case
might
be
based
off
the
evidence
that's
presented
within
that
particular
area,
right.
Q
X
H
B
A
D
N
G
G
D
B
V
Ordinance
number
2888,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
changing
the
zoning
from
t
transitional
district
and
rsf-1a
residential
single-family
estate
district
to
pd
plan
development
for
certain
real
property,
located
east
of
south
benion,
road
and
south
of
william
avenue,
comprising
95.09
acres
more
or
less
and
owned
by
marion
wade.
Hooper
life
estate,
mary
kathleen
hopper
life
estate,
harold
wayne,
thomas
melody,
lynn,
thomas
mary,
kathleen,
hopper,
douglas
matthews
trust,
anita,
matthews
trust.
A
Y
Y
Y
Y
That
is
not
going
to
do
it
for
us.
So
please
give
some
more
thought
to
that,
because
mr
bronson's
property
is
coming
up.
There's
all
these
other
things
coming
up
and
it's
all
in
this
area
there's
no
place
for
the
bears.
Don't
they
have
to
have
so
many
miles
worth
10
or
something
for
them
to
hunt
through,
and
you
have
no
trees
on
the
wildlife
drive
to
speak
of
everything
is
water
and
so
you're
not
going
to
have
too
much
for
your
birds,
and
this
burning
has
to
stop.
A
E
L
C
N
In
this,
this
is
planned
development
they're
requesting
a
pd
in
the
planned
development
code.
30
minimum
is
required
for
open
space
they're,
providing
37
of
the
site.
It's
open
space,
1.6
acres
for
a
community
center
companion,
restrooms
swimming
pool,
playground,
mixed
use,
active
field
in
addition
to
preservation
of
wetlands
and
karst
areas,
which
are
sensitive
environmental
features
that
are
basically
limestone
deposits.
V
Or
december
2890,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
1.171.044
the
here
and
after
described,
lands
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
enh
claircona,
llc,
located
east
of
coral
hills,
road
and
west
of
clarcona
road
providing
for
directions
to
the
city
clerk,
several
ability,
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
A
G
V
Ordinance
number
2891
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171.044
the
here
and
after
described,
land
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
lisa
l
hill
trustee
located
west
of
the
orlando
apopka
airport
and
lake
penny,
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
day.
A
A
V
Ordinance
number
2892
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171
.044,
the
here
and
after
described,
land
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
lisa
l
hill
trustee,
located
west
of
state,
road,
429
and
north
of
lust
road,
providing
for
directions
to
the
city
clerk,
several
ability,
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
A
Z
A
G
S
S
We're
not
contesting
the
consent
order
is
basically
a
settlement
between
dep
and
the
city
and
the
city
accepted
that
fine
amount.
We're
not
contesting
that
fine
amount.
We're
we've
accepted
that
fine
amount,
as
you
can
see
from
the,
and
if
you
want
to
research,
the
consent
order,
consent
order
gives
a
bulk
a
final
amount.
It
then
says
it
involves
these
violations.
S
However,
it
does
not
say
that
the
city
was
fined
x
for
this
event,
for
this
fine
x,
for
this
violation
x,
for
this
violation
y
for
this
violation
also,
the
consent
order
goes
into
detail
as
to
any
additional
finance
based
on
gallons
of
of
discharge,
which
leads
me
to
infer
that
most
of
the
fines
are
related
to
the
to
the
discharge.
However,
what
is
relevant
is
that
the
fine
amount
is
what
the
fine
amount
is.
I
presented
that
fine
amount.
You
had
the
consent
order
to
review
that
fine
amount
so
I've.
S
You
know,
I'm
not
going
to
be
here
to
be
told.
I'm
a
liar,
and
mr
poyer
has
a
cottage
industry
of
calling
everybody,
except
for
himself
a
liar
so
but
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
the
fine
amount
is
clearly
enumerated.
The
total
is
clearly
enumerating
the
consent
order.
It
is
not
broken
down.
You
cannot
find
what
the
amounts
are
for
each
violation.
S
S
But
the
the
bottom
line
is:
there
was
no
misinformation.
There
was
no
attempt
to
mislead
this
council.
The
fine
is
what
the
fine
is.
You
accepted
that
fine,
when
you
agreed
to
enter
into
the
consent
order,
dp
accepted
it
dep
also
the
consent
order
was
drafted
between
my
office
and
dep
and
dep,
gave
no
inclination
and
never
any
never
any
statements
as
to
how
much
each
of
each
incident
was
fined
at
a
specific
amount.
We
came
to
a
flat,
we
came
to
that
amount,
and
that
is
the
amount
the
the
city
agreed
to
accept.
S
L
Well,
it
gives
it
the
total
amount,
34
or
518
right
and
then
talks
about
other
civil
penalties
and
then
the
last
sentence
there
just
says
the
civil
penalty
in
this
case
includes
four
violations
that
each
warrant
a
penalty
of
2000
or
more
to
your
point,
it's
not.
It
doesn't
specifically
break
it
out
and
then
section
9
talks
about
amounts
per
discharge
volumes
and
things
like
that,
but
it
doesn't
exist
formulaically,
step
to
the
34
518.
get
it
just.
You
know
just
me
being
sitting
here.
L
S
Correct
right,
the
ordinance
establishes
basically
your
it's
almost
as
if
it's
a
very
rudimentary
comparison,
but
the
ordinance
is
the
constitution
and
our
manual
or
the
statutes,
so
the
ordinance
it
gives
a
broad
picture
of
what
the
requirements
are.
Now
what
the
ordinance
was?
It's
not
exactly
a
full
rewrite
of
our
prior
cross
connection
ordinance
and
there
was
no
mandate
from
dep
that
we
had
to
completely
redo
it
dp's
the
consent
order
clearly
states
it's
an
update.
The
ordinance,
as
is
drafted,
was
a
streamline
of
our
prior
ordinance.
S
S
B
You
know
again,
as
stated
there's
a
lot
of
emotion
involved,
it's
hard
to
reason
with
emotion.
My
hope
is
to
get
let's
get
to
the
bottom
of
these
things
and
get
resolved
and
be
able
to
move
forward,
and
I
think
that
this
helps
us
move
forward
in
a
positive
path.
That's
great!
You
know
it's!
It's
disappointing
that
those
who
oppose
that
can't
stay
to
hear
the
full
of
this,
because
I
was
hoping
there'd
be
more
information
brought
forth
here,
but
sometimes
that'll
never
really
resolve
it.
You
know
again,
there's
facts
and
then
there's
perspectives.
B
Of
that
you
know,
and
so
I
think
they're
they're
gonna
bring
more
of
that.
So
I'll
just
wait
for
that,
but
you
know
I
want
us
to
move
forward
as
a
community
in
a
in
the
right
way,
and
I
think
this
is
good.
We've
highlighted
it,
we
understand
it.
I
just
I
understood
it
as
you
stated
it,
so
I'm
not
sure
why
there
was
a
misunderstanding
on
the
other
side.
That
was
exactly
what
I
understood
so.
L
Right
actually,
one
last
question
so
having
said
that,
so
the
the
whole
purpose
of
us
passing
this
ordinance
and
then
the
next
piece
of
business
getting
to
the
minutia
of
the
the
the
actual
manual
itself.
By
passing
this
ordinance,
are
we
addressing
all
issues
within
the
consent
order
and
do
they
have
they?
I
guess
a
approve
the
in-kind
project
that
we've
put
forth.
L
S
S
That
we've
begun
the
program
to
submit
the
surveys.
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
note
that
the
administrative
code
does
not
mandate
that
local
governments
have
to
do
the
testing
or
the
actual
inspections.
The
administrative
code
says
that
the
local
governments
are
to
ensure
that
you
do
not
have
prohibited
cross
connections,
they're
very
broadly
written.
S
So
the
code,
our
ordinance
amendment,
which
really
much
echoes
what
was
in
the
original
ordinance
and
our
manual
will,
will
state
that
there
are
going
to
be
processes
and
procedures
for
the
city
to
ensure
that
we
don't
have
prohibited
cross-connections.
And
then
the
requirement
is
on
the
parts
of
the
local
governments
is
that
they
we
have
to
submit
and
which
is-
and
this
is
what
we
were,
what
the
city
was
cited
for.
It
was
this:
what
the
consent
order,
specifically
states
and
what
the
city
was
cited
for,
is
that
we
didn't.
S
The
city
did
not
submit
the
state
form
which
basically
enumerates
how
many
devices
are
within
the
city.
How
many
have
failed
if
some
had
failed?
Why
did
they
fail
and
what
steps
were
taken
to
ensure
that
the
the
incidents
were
taken?
Care
of?
There's
a
specific
form
that
dep
mandates
that
have
to
be
had
to
be
filled
out
and
what
dep
cited
the
city
for
was
not
submitting
that
form
in.
S
I
can
get
my
years
correct
that
I
don't
want
to
don't
want
to
misspeak
but
yeah.
There
was
there
it's
three
specific
years
that
dep
right,
17,
18
and
19,
in
which
that
form
was
not
submitted
to
dep,
and
it
is
it's
a
specific
form
you
can.
Actually
you
can
easily
pull
it
up
online,
that's
the
form
and-
and
that
is
the
sole
information
that
dep
seeks.
How
many,
how
many
of
these
devices
are
within
your
jurisdiction.
S
If
there
been
any
improper
cross
connections,
how
many
were
identified
and
then-
and
basically
what
has
been
done
to
ensure
that
the
cross
connection
has
been
has
been
fixed.
That's
what
the
that's,
the
information
that
that
dep
requires
now,
the
statute,
the
administrative
code
and
our
ordinance
again
most
of
this
onus
falls
on
the
property
owner
to
ensure
that
they
get
the
inspections.
S
We
can
do
a
reminder
or,
as
part
of
our
survey,
to
make
sure
we
know
how
many
there
are,
but
in
the
end,
it's
it's
up
to
the
property
owner
and
the
ordinance
now
clearly
lists
mechanisms
that
the
city
has
to
get
somebody
to
to
do
what
they
need
to
do,
whether
it
goes
through
code
enforcement
or
up
to
you,
know,
shutting
off
the
service.
Now
the
administrative
code
does
not
mandate
that
local
governments
have
to
shut
down
service.
It
provides
it
as
one
of
the
three
options.
S
L
I
mean,
and
then
that's
where
you
get
to
this
kind
of
philosophical
debate
right.
I
mean
to
mr
poirier's
point
earlier:
it's
okay!
If
you
say
that
we
as
a
city
want
to
do
this
measurement,
not
maybe
not
the
burden
on
us
to
do
the
actual
testing
but
ensure
our
residents
are
forced
to
test
it.
These
connections
exist
and
they'd
have
to
do
the
backflow
certification.
L
If
we
think
that
we're
that's
a
guiding
principle
for
us
as
a
city,
we've
got
to
actually
go
through
and
shut
off
water.
If
people
aren't
going
to
adhere
with
the
manual
that
we
potentially
would
be
because
the
manual
is
pretty
clear,
it
talks
about
how
high-risk
contamination
is
it
talks
about.
You
know
to
your
set
this
step
of
enforcement
that
we're
going
to
take.
If
we
go
through
steps,
one
two
one
and
two
and
don't
invoke
three,
then
what
everybody's
just
going
to
say
awful,
yeah,
that's
city,
you
know
correct.
A
U
L
I
mean
the
way
that
the
manual
is
written
again.
This
is
the
next
piece
of
business,
but
the
way
that
the
manual
is
written,
it
would
be
on
the
onus
of
the
homeowner
and
they
would
have
to
use
a
certified
backflow
preventer
tester
in
order
to
do
that
by
every
two
year,
testing
on
their
backflow
preventer.
S
S
Thing
the
manual
actually
wanted
to
address
is
the
change
in
technology,
because
there
are
now
devices
that
actually
last
longer,
but
yes,
it's
the
financial
burden
of
the
property
owner
to
get
them
inspected.
If
they
need
to
be
replaced
to
replace
them,
to
purchase
the
the
device
and
to
replace
them.
There
may
be
some
financial
assistance
we've.
We
have
incorporated
that.
I
want
to
jump
ahead,
but
we
have
incorporated
that
into
the
manual,
but
that
is
going
to
be
based
on
there
being
allocated
funding
on
the
part
of
the.
U
A
K
H
K
How
do
we
know
if
we
even
have
that,
because
I've
never
heard
this
discussion
in
the
20
years?
I've
lived
in
apopka,
so
I
don't
know
exactly
how
has
this
process
been
done
in
the
past?
So
I'm
just
unclear
because
I
know
our
commercial
building
is
probably
about
40
years
old
and
then
my
home
is
21.,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
it
says
something
put
on
the
resident,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
at
what
point
did
this
happen?
And
what
do
I
actually
have
at
my
house?
K
Yes,
but
it
didn't
have
an
address
it
just
actually.
If
it
was
a
irrigation,
it
was
pretty
vague.
If
you
asked
me,
I
I
really
didn't
know
what
to
do
with.
I
know
I
submitted
it
back,
but
I
didn't
know
what
property
was
tailored
to,
so
it
was
kind
of
unclear.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
if
there's
a
year
span
where
you
should
have
a
backflow
meter
or
you
shouldn't.
I
don't
I'm
not
sure.
Well,
it.
A
Should
have
had
it's
got
what
what
would
you
would
force
you
to
have
a
backflow
preventer?
It
depend
if
you
have
irrigation.
If
all
you
had
was
you
know
water
into
your
house
with
no
irrigation,
you
wouldn't
have
to
have
it.
Everybody
else
basically
would
have
to
have
a
backflow
preventer.
So
if
you
have
well
water
for
your
irrigation,
you
have
an
irrigation
system
at
all.
You'd
have
to
have
a
backflow
preventer,
but
if
your
only
water
is
coming
into
your
house
and
staying
in
your
house,
you're
not
required.
H
H
L
L
G
L
H
S
Speaking
as
a
resident
of
the
state
of
florida,
I've
lived
in
multiple
jurisdictions
and
not
a
single
jurisdiction.
I
have
ever
lived
in
city
of
boca
raton
palm
beach
county
city
of
deland
volusia
county
has
ever
conducted
a
survey
on
my
property,
so
this
is
not
an
apopka.
If,
if
it
is
a
problem,
it
is
not
solely
an
apopka
problem.
S
C
S
A
O
A
B
Well,
I
know
I
was
with
rogers.
I
didn't
have
a
clue
what
they
were
until
I
did
sit
down
with
staff
and
they're
going
to
make
it
make
sense.
I
believe
to
you,
as
they
did
to
me,
but
the
bigger
issue
that
it
helped
me
understand
was.
It
is
an
individual
problem
for
each
house
and
the
siphoning
issue.
That's
what
is
the
danger.
B
So
you
know
these
things
are
are
personal
to
all
of
us,
and
I
really
endeavored
in
this
whole
concern
to
put
myself
in
his
shoes
as
well.
So
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
compassion
with
this,
so
I
I'm
just
looking
forward
to
the
instruction
here
that
I
think
is
going
to
help
make
this
make
some
more
sense
and
then
also
contaminants
have
to
be
at
a
certain
parts
per
million.
They
can
show
up
and
it
not
be
dangerous
until
it
reaches
a
certain
level.
B
A
S
G
S
S
S
S
We've
updated
it
to
be
consistent
with
the
emergency
emerging
technology
when
it
comes
to
the
devices,
especially
the
the
one
device
and
and
I'm
going
to
just,
introduce
it
and
then
at
the
second
part,
I'm
going
to
defer
to
the
technical
staff,
because
they
know
a
lot
more
about
this
than
I
do.
I
don't
purport
to
be
a
a
water
engineer
or
any
type
of
water
expert,
but
the
the
new
manual
enumerates
specific
devices
based
on
the
type
of
connections
and
the
type
of
properties.
S
It
does
also
now
specifically
reference
certain
commercial
connections
and
what
is
going
to
be
required,
and
it
will
it
sets
out
the
inspection
requirements
and
the
obligations
of
the
property
owners.
It
specifically
also
sets
out
that
the
the
the
responsibility
and
the
financial
responsibility
for
each
it
falls
on
each
property
owner
to
ensure
that
their
device
is
present,
that
their
device
is
working
and
that
when
they
obtain
the
the
inspections,
those
that
have
inspected
are
to
rep
are
to
notify
the
city
that
inspection
has
been
complete
and
give
the
city
those
inspection
results.
S
S
Past
the
water
meter,
the
language
that's
in
our
manual
comes,
I
looked
at
different
jurisdictions,
actually
comes
from
the
city
of
tallahassee.
The
city's
obligation
ends
at
the
water
meter
from
the
water
meter
forward.
That
obligation
falls
on
the
property
owner
because
the
city
has
no
control
over
the
pipes
or
any
type
of
the
water
system
within
within
a
property
owner
within
the
property
owner's
property.
S
So
it's
kind
of
dangerous
to
state
that.
Well,
if
you
don't
test
the
water
coming
out
of
my
the
you
have
to
test
the
water
coming
out
of
my
sink
and
you're
responsible
for
anything
that
comes
out
of
the
sink.
That's
not
how
the
state
of
florida,
nor
the
epa
tests,
municipal
water,
it's
going
to
be
tested
from
the
source
and
the
obligation
of
the
part
of
the
city,
and
it's
it's
enumerated
clearly
in
the
manual
obligation
of
the
city,
ends
at
the
water
meter
after
the
water
meter.
S
It's
the
property
owner's
responsibility,
because
then
the
water
is
within
the
control
of
the
property
owner
and
his
and
his
or
hers
we'll
say
theirs
their
infrastructure.
So
at
this
point,
I'll
defer
to
staff
to
give
you
more
of
the
technical
breakdown
and
how
that
the
manual
will
will
be
implemented.
B
And
I
do
want
to
ask
right
there,
because
that
highlights
that
that's
the
seeming
the
rub
at
this
point,
because
if
it's
my
responsibility-
but
I
don't
even
know
about
it-
I
don't
know
that
we're
supposed
to
check
those
and
the
city
is
supposed
to.
Let
me
know
and
hasn't.
That's
I
think
where
this
question
is
and
if
the
state,
the
dep,
has
not
been
requiring
cities
to
do
that
until
2016,
and
at
that
point
I
mean,
is
this
something
that
it's
nebulous
and
it's
it's
something
that
they're
saying
we
should
do.
B
S
S
So
it
really
does
fall
on
the
on
the
individuals
and
there
really
is-
and
there
really
isn't
any
statutory
or
legal
obligation
on
the
part
of
local
governments
to
step
in
and
and
perform
the
inspections
perform.
The
replacements
install
the
the
items
and
that's
something
that
that
has
been
weighed
there
are
there
are
jurisdictions
with
a
flat
out
state.
The
backflow
preventer
is
going
to
belong
to
the
local
government,
it's
their.
S
That's
something
you
can
you
can
win,
that's
the
prerogative
of
the
council,
but
we
are
following
the
lead
of
many
other
jurisdictions
in
the
state
of
florida,
which
still
put
it
on
the
pri
on
the
property
owner
and
have
it
as
as
their
prerogative
to
to
to
provide
this
on
their
property.
Without
it
being
an
express
mandate,
that's
that
can
open
a
touchy
subject
when
it
comes
then
to
mandating
folks
to
do
certain
things.
S
Requiring
no,
there
is
a
requirement
to
note
we
are
the
well,
it's
not
a
direct
requirement.
It
comes
in
that
indirectly
that
that
the
local
governments
have
to
notify
the
state
that
we
know
how
many
preventers,
how
many
of
these
devices-
and
I
don't
say,
backflow,
it's
basically
a
cross-connection
device,
the
the
what
is
not
permitted
is
a
cross
connection
and
cross
connections
take
on
a
whole,
varied
role.
S
Theoretically,
you
can
have
a
cross
connection
if
the
end
of
your
garden
hose
goes
into
the
ground
and
ends
up
siphoning
groundwater
into
your
system,
and
it's
not
prevented.
That's
that's
your
cross-connection
now.
Can
it
happen
in
theory,
a
lot
of
things
can
can
happen
in
theory,
but
that's
a
cross-connection.
S
So
what
the
the
code,
the
administrative
code
and
in
a
case
of
ordinance,
is
out
to
eliminate
cross
connections
and
you
can
eliminate
a
cross
connection
by
using
a
backflow
preventer,
but
the
what
the
requirement
is
is
the
elimination
of
cross
connections,
and
that's
that's
what
the
word
that's
what
the
state
is
looking
for.
So,
that's
why
we
have
to
notify
the
state
if
we
have
discovered
any
cross
connections
and
what
has
been
done
to
ensure
that
the
cross
connection
has
been
eliminated.
S
B
So
it's
like
car
manufacturers
are
not
obligated
to
tell
people
if
you
drink
antifreeze,
it
can
kill
you.
That's
the
driver's
responsibility
to
find
that
out
for
himself,
but
if
he
doesn't
know
that
and
is
thirsty,
you
know
I
mean
again
it's
just
one
of
those
nebulous
things
and
I'm
just
trying
to
say
it's
like
trying
to
catch
a
frog
and
every
time
you
grab
it.
It
keeps
moving
so
or.
S
C
U
AA
AA
AA
AA
The
inspections
are
done
at
the
time
that
it's
built.
There's
there
wouldn't
get
it
there
wouldn't
be
any.
He
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
live
in
there.
If
there
was
a
cross
connection
so
really
on
at
a
residence,
the
homeowner's
got
to
get
creative
with
their
piping
to
have
a
cross-connection.
You
know
from
line
to
line
from
from
the
reclaimed
line
over
here
to
the
potable
line
over
here
and
actually
make
a
tee
and
feed
it
over.
Here,
it's
very
rare,
it
is
yes,
I
mean.
AA
So
if
something
like
a
cross
connection,
a
a
hose
left
in
the
in
a
pail
full
of
soapy
water
or
something
that
had
been
uncleaned
and
the
whole,
and
then
you
lose
pressure,
it
can
back
siphon
just
like
when
you
used
to.
You
know
clean
out
your
your
I
used
to
with
my
aquarium.
You
know
you
put
a
hose
in
it
and
then
at
a
lower
level,
and
it
would
siphon,
but
it's
not
a
strong
pressure.
I
mean
that
backflip
preventer,
it
will
will
work.
I
mean,
will
prevent
anything
from
coming
back
into
the
main.
AA
AA
One
thing
that
was
spoken
about
earlier
with
mr
purely
the
line
breaks
the
contamination
came
in
through
a
main
break,
because
I
guess
the
the
question
was
my
backflip
runner
wasn't
working
so
it
happened.
Something
happened
to
get
into
my
house,
but
the
back
foot
preventer
doesn't
stop
water
coming
from
the
main
to
the
house,
or
else
you
wouldn't
get
any
water
to
your
house.
It
prevents
contaminants
from
the
house
to
come
into
the
main
and
so
yeah.
AA
AA
But
as
far
as
I,
I
know
that
there's
always
been
a
backflow
prevention
program,
there's
not
been
and
a
coordinator,
so
this
one
was
doing
this
part
and
this
one
was
doing.
The
staff
was
doing
a
lot
of
different
parts.
I
really
don't
think
that
apopka
was
was
big
enough.
I
mean
it
gets
to
a
point
where
you
do
have
to
address
and
and
make
staff
for
a
program
kind
of
thing.
AA
The
commercials
have
been
commercial
accounts
have
been
testing
because
they're
sending
me
the
tests
that
I'm
putting
in
the
computer
so
and
and
that
those
the
old
ordinance
said
you
could
cut
them
all.
You
could
shut
off
the
water
for
not
for
not
testing,
but
it
just
becomes
on
how
much
you
know.
When
are
you
big
enough
to
then
bring
break
it
down
to
the
residence?
And
you
know
to
actually
send
out
letters
to
the
residents
and
and
yeah?
You
probably
need
to
have
some
education.
AA
I'm
we
have
sent
a
few
letters
out,
and
the
people
have.
What
they've
called
me
is
for
is
give
me
a
list
of
testers
of
people
who
can
test
which
a
tester
would
have
to
have
his
backflow
certification
current,
as
well
as
his
the
meter
that
is
used
to
test
the
backflow,
would
have
to
be
calibrated
annually
and
that's
one
thing,
the
testers
that
come
they
can
repair
as
well.
AA
It
was
a
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
test.
We
we,
I
just
wanted
to
to
start.
You
know
the
consent.
Order
was
saying
they
wanted
it
to
start,
but
that
was
before
we
kind
of
revised
the
manual
okay
and
the
manual
now
gives
us
options
that,
like
like
I'll,
send
you
and
I'll
give
you
a
due
date
and
if
I
say
I'll,
give
you
a
month
to
I'll
send
a
letter
out
because
you're
not
gonna,
know
anything
about
it.
So
I'll
say
your
backload
and
I'll.
AA
Have
that
information
from
the
computer,
you'll
it'll
say
what
your
what
device
you
have
and
where
it
is,
and
usually
it's
it's
in
a
separate
box
just
past
your
meter
box,
because
it's
in
the
ground,
so
you
wouldn't
see
it,
that's
why
most
people
don't
know
they
have
one,
because
it's
on
the
property
owner's
side
of
your
meter.
Yes,
so
then
you'll
have
a
due
date
and
if
I
don't
res,
if
we
don't
receive
the
test
by
that
due
date,
I'll
send
you
another
one
in
two
weeks.
AA
You
know
to
remind
you,
but
if
I
don't
get
in
in
two
weeks,
then
this
gives
me
the
authority
to
test
it
or
have
a
third
party
test
it
and
and
then
just
put
that
that
cost
on
your
bill
on
your
water
bill.
So
there's
no,
I
don't
have
to
shut
your
water
off.
I
don't
have
to
find
you.
I
don't
have
to
come
in
guns
blazing,
and
I
thought
it
was
a
good
solution
because
there's
already
mechanisms
in
place
to
to
make
payments
on
your
water
bill.
AA
So
we're
not
asking
somebody
to
you
know
it's
a
50
jump.
Oh,
do
I
have
to
pay
it
all
at
once
kind
of
thing.
I
know,
there's
there's
already
a
mechanism
in
place
and
that
way
we
don't
own
the
we
don't
own,
the
backflow
device.
It's
still
yours,
it's
just
that
you
need
to
start
maintaining
it
and
a
lot
of
people
are
just
going
to
say.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
find
somebody
you
just
do
it.
C
F
AA
Yes,
we
can
well,
that's
then
that
would
be
the
easiest
way
to
do.
It
is
in
chunks.
I
can't
send
out
you
know
10
000
letters
and
ex
and
have
it
all
come
back
at
once
so
we'll
do.
We
can
pull
it
up
by
subdivision
and
send
those
letters
out
that
it's
testing
and
then,
when
the
calls
come
in,
why
what's
happening
and
do
all
the
explanation
and
we're
probably
well
we'll
try
to
maybe
work
out
something
on
the
website
for
a
list
of
licensed
certified
testers.
AA
C
Preventer,
well,
you
have
something
on
the
website
that
says
all
right
and
I'm
going
to
take
my
subdivision
in
rogers,
we're
in
rock
springs
ridge,
where
you're
going
to
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
start
sending
out
letters
to
the
residents
in
rock
springs
ridge.
If
you
live
in
rock
springs
ridge
expect
the
letter,
because
then
what
happens
is
you
know
when
people
start
getting
letters
randomly?
They
just
can't
figure
it
out.
If
we
can
put
something
on
the
website,
sure.
T
C
S
AA
C
G
C
AA
Sure,
and
and
it'd
be
great,
you
know
it's
not
hoas
are
different
every
place
the
best
if
the
hoa
would
get
together.
If
the,
if
everybody
in
and
present
like
one
thing
and
then
they
could
get
quotes
from
different
vendors
but
yeah
you're
right,
we
can
work
with
kelly.
That's
her
name
just
like
for
the
irrigation
survey
that
we
had
to
send
out.
We
we
worked
with
her.
She
had
it
on
the
website.
AA
D
N
D
D
B
D
P
B
G
A
A
AA
A
Z
L
So
even
if
we
send
out
surveys
to
our
residents,
I
would
expect
that
a
lot
of
those
surveys
results
would
be
mixed
at
best
in
terms
of
their
ability
to
self-identify.
So
do
you
have
a
typical
profile
of
a
neighborhood
or
a
home
that
would
definitely
have
backflow
devices
on
it,
and
that's
is
that
your
plan
of
attack.
AA
Well,
we
do
have
the
the
old
data,
I
mean
the
data
that
we
have
now
that's
in
toke,
and
that
has
a
lot
of
residential
information
on
it,
but
all
of
our
reclaimed
areas
have
it.
They
don't
get
a
meter
without
one.
So
we
already
know
that.
That's
that
and
that's
the
one
that
michael
was
talking
about
the
new
technology.
L
L
There
is
an
expectation
that
homeowners
test
their
devices
based
off
the
table
based
off
device
type
and
period
of
time.
If
they
don't
do
it,
you
have
an
opportunity
to
warn
them
a
couple
guidance
letters.
If
that
doesn't
happen,
you
have
the
ability
to
build
them,
put
it
on
the
water
bill.
If
they
want
to
smooth
that
that
cost
to
have
it
tested
by
a
certified
tester,
they
can
do
that
over
a
course
of
time.
Is
that
what
you're
meant.
AA
L
AA
AA
AA
L
L
G
M
AA
L
S
Commissioner
smith,
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing
on
you
on
your
point:
if
you
refer
to
paragraph
1.8
of
the
manual,
which
are
the
defined
terms,
it
defines
certified
backflow
prevention
assembly
tester
as
a
person
who
is
trained
by
an
approved
agency
in
backflow
testing
and
receives
a
certification.
So
tester
is
actually
a
defined
term
in
the
manual
and
where
is
that
at
1.8?
S
AA
AA
C
B
Just
the
last
thing
just
to
clarify
again,
I
made
a
statement
earlier
that,
if
someone
has
that
issue,
they
have
a
break
in
their
house,
they
have
a
back
siphoning.
It
can't
get
back
into
the
main
system
without
a
trigger
if
there
was
a
break
in
the
main
line.
This
is
what
you
were
pointing
out.
I
believe
earlier,
that's
if
that
happens,
there's
an
indication
immediately
and
these
these
have
happened
over
the
city,
because
I
asked
the
same
question:
have
they
happened?
B
Yes
and
every
time
they
do
automatically
everyone
has
said
you
know,
boil
water
alert,
here's
what
happens,
but
if
that,
if
that
doesn't
happen,
there's
no
way
it
can
go
from
my
house
to
my
neighbor's
house
yeah.
So
the
real
question,
then,
is
it
in
the
groundwater
in
both
places,
and
is
that
I
think.
M
O
B
B
AA
Because
I
hadn't
thought
about
it
until
she
was
speaking
to
a
main
break,
I
mean
usually
when
a
big
mane
is
there
they
the
dirt.
There
is
not
like
regular
dirt,
it's
it's
packed
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
as
far
as
leaching
or
getting
dirt
you'll
get
in
there.
But
I
don't
know
that
you
would
get
contaminants
of
micro.
B
B
K
I
guess
just
for
clarification
just
looking
from
a
layman's
person.
Education
is
key.
However,
you
can
put
it
to
a
resident
because
it's
fairly
confusing
kind
of
listen
to
it
all.
But
if
I
understand
correctly,
that
city
is
going
to
put
in
a
program
to
require
residents
to
test
their
backflow
meters
on
a
bi-annual
basis.
A
X
You
got
olson
3156,
rolling
hills,
lane
apopka
dep
says
we
have
to
do
it.
It's
in
the
interest
of
the
safety
of
all
residents
in
this
city.
Why
don't
we
do
it
incorporate
it
into
the
bill
and
just
get
it
done?
Why
all
this
mickey
mouse
around
and
you
know
people
are
gonna,
miss
the
date
contract
it
get
it
done
what
the
timetables
are,
whether
we
hire
someone
or
whether
we
just
retain
someone.
Why
don't
we
do
it?
That
way,
I
mean
it.
X
A
We
we
know
orange
county,
I
know
with
paula
left
there.
It
was
it's
three
dollars
a
month
for
orange
county
and
we're
pretty
sure.
That's
not
gonna
be
the
number
that
works
so
it
it
could
be
three
dollars
a
month
and
we're
pretty
sure
that's
not
the
right
number.
So
is
it
four
dollars
a
month
five
dollars
a
month
to
to
take
care
of
it?
So
I
mean
that's
the
question
all
right.
A
C
A
G
A
Out
some
of
the
you
know,
the
backflow
preventers
show
people,
because
we
we
we
could
do
a
better
job
of
marketing
the
program
so
that
that's
something
we
can
do
farmer's
market.
We
could
have
a
you
know
a
table
out
there,
so
we
can,
we
can
do.
We
can
do
some
things
to
to
to
to
educate
the
the
public.
So.
D
And
may
I
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
so
important
to
show
them
the
black
pro
preventer,
because
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
it
anyway.
I
think
if
you
had
a
diagram
like
I
know
in
rock
spring
ridge,
we
have
two
black
boxes
and
one
black
box.
Is
your
water
meter,
other
black
boxes,
you'll
check,
you
know
backflow
preventer.
So
if
you
just
had
a
picture
that
showed
me,
you
got
two
black
boxes
in
your
front
yard.
One
is
the
meter.
The
other
is
the
back
floor.
L
Right,
yeah
they're
not
going
to
open
it.
So
if
I,
if
I
do,
the
mat
check
my
math
on
this
one,
though
so,
let's
just
say
that
apopka
has
19
000
households,
because
I
think
that's
in
the
ballpark
of
what
we're
at
times
that
by
40
bucks,
that's
760
dollars
a
year.
Obviously
we're
not
doing
it
every
year.
L
L
S
S
L
S
A
O
G
O
So
on
that
note,
resolution,
20
21
49
authorizes
the
execution
of
a
non-exclusive
franchise
agreement
with
the
commercial
waste
services
with
environmental
one
llc
for
rolloff
container
collection,
disposal
of
waste
within
the
city
of
apopka,
and
just
so
you
know
this
looks
a
little
different
than
the
other
resolutions
that
you've
seen
in
the
past.
But
with
the
help
of
michael
we
have.
We
now
have
an
agreement,
not
only
a
resolution,
but
we
have
an
actual
agreement
and
you'll
notice.
O
These
agreements
have
already
been
executed
by
the
franchise
e
right,
and
so
we
have
there'll
be
more
of
these
to
come
to
you,
because
going
forward
in
the
future
we're
actually
going
to
have
a
written
agreement
that
lays
out
all
the
the
details
and
everything
so
that
that
everything's
everybody's
on
the
same
page
and
everybody
has
an
agreement.
So
this
is
just
renewing
their
agreement
and
you
will
see
more
of
these
in
the
future
as
we
move
through
all
of
our
our
franchisee.
A
L
V
Resolution
2021-51
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
for
approving
and
authorizing
the
execution
of
a
non-exclusive
franchise
agreement
for
commercial,
solid
waste
services
with
the
republic
services
of
florida
for
a
roll-off
container
collection
and
disposal
of
waste
within
the
city,
providing
for
an
effective
date.
Edward.
A
Any
questions
anybody
from
public
which
speak
on
this
matter,
if
not
we'll
close
the
public
hearing,
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
resolution.
2021-51
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second,
by
christopher
banks
and
all
those
in
favor,
aye,
aye
I'll
oppose
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
resolution
number
2021-66.
Z
Z
The
first
amendment
is
for
the
turning
lanes
for
obedient
road
for
the
san
juan
river
water
management,
apopka
service
center,
and
it's
the
funding
sources
for
the
transportation
impact
fee
reserve
and
it's
a
construction
project
change
order
for
turning
lanes
on
billion
road.
This
order
was
approved
via
city
council
meeting
held
on
december
1st
2021
for
43
048.
Z
Z
Z
The
third
amendment
is
for
the
public
safety
personnel
and
the
funding
source
is
from
the
general
fund,
carry
over
grant
opportunities
that
were
in
process
during
the
fiscal
year.
22
budget
hearings
were
unfortunately
not
awarded
for
the
cops
grant
and
the
assistant
to
firefighters
grant
this
grant
were
for
police
and
fire
personnel
based
on
the
grand
workshop
held
prior
to
this
council
meeting
today
at
6
pm.
A
O
H
V
U
V
Just
very
minor-
and
I
gave
you
all
a
red
line
of
what
we
changed,
but
this
is
to
calling
for
a
special
election
and
a
runoff
and
just
to
alert.
You
know
to
allow
time
so
that
people
can
also
go
under
the
same
qualifying
period
as
we
have
scheduled
for
december
27th,
starting
at
noon
and
ending
on
on
january
4th
at
noon
also.
So,
basically,
that's
really
the
just
so
the
resolution.
A
L
L
A
A
Got
a
motion
by
commissioner
becker
secretary,
commissioner
bankston,
all
those
in
favor
aye
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
mayor's
proclamation
city
election
special
election
2022,
see
here,
whereas
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
charter
and
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
a
special
election
shall
be
held
on
march
8
2022,
to
elect
a
commissioner
for
seat
4
to
fulfill
an
unexpired
term
and
whereas
city
council
seat
4
will
become
vacant
at
12
p.m.
On
april
26
2022.
A
It
is
therefore
necessary
that
a
commissioner
for
city
council
seat
four
be
elected
as
special
election
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
fulfill
the
remainder
of
the
unexpired
term
for
commissioner
city
council
seat
4..
Now,
therefore,
I
brian
nelson
mayor
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
is
required
by
law.
Do
hereby
proclaim
and
pronounce
that
the
special
election
will
be
held
in
the
city
of
apopka
florida
on
tuesday
march
8
2022
from
7
a.m,
to
7
p.m.
For
the
purpose
of
electing
a
commissioner
for
city
council
seat
4.
A
A
Only
the
voters
of
the
city
residing
within
the
city
limits
who
are
properly
registered
within
the
orange
county
supervisor
elections
or
or
who
will
be
properly
registered
by
february
7
2022
may
vote
in
this
election
candidates
for
set
office
must
qualify
with
the
city
clerk
beginning
at
12
p.m.
On
monday
december
27,
2021
at
12
p.m,
and
ending
at
12
p.m.
On
tuesday
january
4,
2022
at
city
hall,
120,
east
main
street
apopka
florida
voting,
precincts,
apopka,
community
center,
vfw,
519,
south
central
avenue,
apopka
florida
and
precinct
9204
southwest
recreational
3710,
jason
dwelling
apopka
florida.
A
A
Jason
dwelling
apopka
florida,
I'm
brian
nelson
here
by
appoint
the
canvassing
board
for
said
runoff
election
as
follows:
canvassing
board
city
commissioners,
doug,
benson
city
clerk,
susan
m,
bone
and
city
resident
jim
green
in
witness
here,
for
I
have
until
set
my
hand
and
caused
the
seal
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
be
fixed
and
attested
by
the
city
clerk
of
apopka.
This
15th
day
of
december
2021.,
brian
nelson
mayor,
okay,
city
council
reports,
commissioner
velasquez
wow.
C
Do
I
have
a
long
list?
I
actually
wrote
things
down
because
I
said
I
didn't
want
to
forget
anything.
First
of
all,
shop
with
a
cop
has
been
really
well
attended,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
know
the
police
department
for
all
they
do,
and
I
I've
gotten
the
opportunity
to
be
there
a
couple
of
days
and
it
was
fun
and
yesterday
was
grinch
day.
So
it
was
fun.
C
Of
course,
saturday
sounds
we're
both
loyal
to
saturday
sounds,
and
so
this
saturday
just
to
remind
our
residents
that,
even
though
it's
christmas
coming
very
in
a
few
days,
we
still
have
saturday
sounds
so.
Please
come
out
and
support
that
just
want
to
make
a
comment
regarding
the
orlando
philharmonic
christmas
show.
It
was
a
great
success
and
was
very
well
attended
and
I've
gotten
so
many
compliments
about
it
and
they
just
keep
saying
make
sure
you
bring
it
back
every
year.
C
So
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
budget
for
every
year
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
a
shout
out
to
the
mayor's
wife,
debbie
nelson,
because
I
had
an
angel
from
an
angel
tree.
A
student
from
a
local
school
and
she
had
a
very
expensive
and
long
list
and
the
mayor's
wife
stepped
up
and
shed
this
cost
of
the
bicycle
with
me.
So
I
want
to
give
her
a
shout
out
and
say
that
you
know
it's
really.
C
You
know
a
program
that
we
love
and
this
year
was
the
first
year
that
they
actually
send
the
list
of
the
angels
to
the
city
of
apopka.
So
a
big
shout
out
to
both
our
police
department
and
the
fire
department
for
picking
angels
and
and
fulfilling
those
christmas
wishes
to
the
kids.
What
else?
Oh,
the
chamber,
awards
dinner,
was
a
success.
Also.
We
had
a
lot
of
fun
with
that
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
you
know.
The
firefighter
of
the
year
was
lieutenant
matthew.
C
Gargon,
the
police
officer
of
the
year
was
quentin
ned
and,
of
course,
our
jerry
maynard
received
the
bernie
roberts
award,
and
just
this
week
I
saw
one
of
our
firefighters.
Sean
potter
was
promoted
to
engineers.
So
congratulations
to
him.
Let
me
see,
I
think,
that's
it.
Oh
the
apopka
christmas
parade.
That
was
a
lot
of
fun.
This
year
I
was
able
to
bring
my
granddaughter
and
she
she
loved
it.
C
A
S
S
On
I
didn't
there
was
another,
but
I
mean
I
was
gonna.
I
think
commissioner
pecker
stole
my
thunderbias
being
this
last
meeting
and
wish
everyone
a
merry
christmas
and
a
happy
new
year
being
that
this
is
also
the
last
meeting.
Another
year
has
gone
down.
So,
commissioner
smith,
I
think
I've
got
two
years
now
on
the
28th
I
promised
when
I
came
on
board.
So
all
right,
I'm
on
my
way,
hang
in
there.
A
All
right,
okay,
good,
all
right,
mayor's
report-
some
of
it's
already
been
said,
so
I
won't
repeat
it.
We
also
still
have
the
farmer's
market,
slash
holiday,
mark
market
at
kitland
nelson
park
on
this
thursday.
So
if
you
have
got
the
last
minute,
shopping
come
on
down,
wreaths
across
america
will
be
saturday.
So
if
you're
not
going
down
to
fort
lauderdale
for
the
game
noon
at
the
greenwood
edgewood
cemetery,
we
need
some
some
volunteers
to
help
put
the
reese
out
on
the
our
veterans
graves
yeah.
A
I
was
just
helping
to
unload
it
today,
truck
kind
of
neat
tyson
food
donates
time
and
and
money
toward
delivering,
so
they
had
a
big
tyson
food
truck
with
with
the
reese
full,
and
so
we
got
them
unloaded
today
and
they'll
be
out
there
for
saturday.
So
come
on
out,
recapped
everything.
One
thing
we
didn't
recap
was
the
camp.
We
want
open
house
real,
big
success,
probably
two
300
people
there.
A
You
know
to
really
get
a
good
good
feel
for
what
we
can
do
out
there,
and
so
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
opportunities
there
to
to
to
keep
that,
keep
it
full.
On
the
weekends-
and
hopefully
some
during
the
week
last
but
not
least
just
got-
I
was
matter
of
fact
the
reason
I
was
in
the
back
to
take
a
phone
call.
A
So
for
those
out
there
listening
the
parking
lot
we
have
for
the
popka,
blue
darters
will
be
1515,
west,
commercial
boulevard,
fort
lauderdale
and
so
come
on
down,
we'll
be
I'll,
be
cooking,
burgers
and
dogs
and
the
the
proceeds
will
go
toward
the
darter
nest,
which
is
the
food
pantry
at
apopka
high
school.
So
with
that,
we'll
call
it
a
night.