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Apopka City Council Final Budget Hearing at City Hall on September 15, 2021 at 6 PM.
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B
Father
we
come
once
again
and
say
thank
you
for
the
blessing
you've
bestowed
upon
us.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
come
to
take
of
the
business
of
this
council.
We
ask
of
father
to
allow
us
to
continue
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
resources
you
have
given
us
bless
this
meeting,
we
pray
thy
son
jesus
name,
amen.
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Good
evening,
mayor
and
commissioners,
so
tonight
is
the
marks.
The
final
budget
hearing
public
hearing
that
is
required
by
trim
by
florida
statute,
you're
required
to
have
a
final
budget
hearing
and
so
tonight
we'll
mark
that
final
budget
hearing
in
this
budget
hearing
you're
required
to
set
the
millage
rate,
which
will
be
the
final
millage
rate
for
the
fiscal
year
2122.
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So
the
agenda
we'll
talk
about
the
process,
the
calendar
we'll
talk
about
the
highlights
in
this
budget,
the
infrastruct
major
infrastructure
improvements,
major
capital
items,
grant
applications
that
we
are
still
waiting
on
that
are
still
outstanding,
substantial
items
that
were
excluded
in
last
year's
budget.
I
think
it's
important
to
go
over
those
then
we'll
do
a
budget
overview
of
citywide,
the
city-wide
budget
and
then
we'll
kind
of
talk
about
some
general
fund
budgets.
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So
some
of
the
highlights
in
this
budget,
as
you
know,
from
the
last
meeting,
there
have
been
no
changes
from
the
last
meeting
from
your
from
your
direction.
From
the
from
your
adoption
to
the
last
meeting,
the
millage
rate
sits.
It
currently
currently
sits
at
4.1876,
which
is
a
decrease
of
a
tenth
of
a
mil
or
represents
about
400
000.
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The
tax
base
for
the
city
has
increased
397
million
dollars,
providing
an
additional
1.1
million
dollars
in
ad
valorem
revenues,
the
utility
service
tax
or
public
service
tax,
and
sometimes
you'll,
see
it
as
municipal
service
tax.
If
you
recall,
we
made
a
change,
we
had
to
make
a
change
based
on
statute
to
our
utility
service
tax
and
how
it's
calculated
it
used
to
be
capped.
It
can
no
longer
be
capped,
so
we've
we've
opened
that
we've
had
to
make
that
change.
That
provides
an
additional
1.1
million
dollars.
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Some
of
the
highlights
more
highlights.
There's
a
performance-based
merit
pay
up
to
six
percent.
If
you
recall
last
year,
the
current
year
we
sit
in
today.
That
percentage
was
reduced
down
to
three
percent
due
to
a
lot
of
the
revenue
issues
and
shortfalls
that
we
we
faced
in
that
budget
year,
but
that
this
budget
does
include
that
merit
back
up
to
six
percent.
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The
property
casualty
of
workers.
Comp
insurance
has
have
increased.
Approximately
11
percent
insurance
we've
seen
an
increase
of
about
6.4
percent
camp.
We
will,
as
you
know,
recently
purchased.
It
is
included
in
this
budget
in
the
parks
and
recreation
department,
and
it
has
its
own
separate
cost
center.
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Some
other
highlights
are
street
improvements,
lots
of
streets
and
street
improvements
in
this
budget.
There
are,
I
think,
four
traffic
signal,
new
traffic
signals
or
signals
and
improvements.
There
are
new
sidewalks,
as
you
know,
we
have
a
school
coming
in,
so
there
are
new
sidewalks.
There
are
sidewalk
repairs,
there's
dollars
for
sidewalk
repairs
the
contract.
Our
contract
mowing
has
been
very
successful
that
continues
in
this
budget.
The
speed
hump
program
is
also
funded
in
this
budget.
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Positions,
so
if
you
recall,
I
said
there
were
16
new
positions
in
one
eliminated
position,
so
there
are
two
communication
technician
positions
included:
a
new
code
enforcement
position,
officer
position,
a
records
clerk
in
the
city,
clerk's
department,
or
division,
the
there's,
a
multi-code
inspector
and
a
permit
clerk.
Both
of
those
will
work
in
the
building
department.
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There
is
a
camp
wewa
manager,
an
outdoor
recreation,
specialist
and
a
maintenance
worker
too.
Those
three
those
three
positions
are
funded,
are
to
help
fund
and
run
the
camp
wewa.
There
are
two
recreation
leaders,
three
parks
workers,
and
then
one
accounting
specialist
position
has
been
eliminated.
The
parks
workers
are
we
had.
If
you
recall,
we
used
to
have
an
inmate
program.
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We
no
longer
have
the
inmate
program
so
those
park
workers
instead
of
we've,
eliminated
the
inmate
program
and
added
parks
workers
for
our
parks
and
grounds
infrastructure
improvements.
These
are
the
very
big
projects:
high
dollar
projects.
You
have
the
harman
road
extension
and
the
traffic
signal.
This
is
also
where
station
6
will
be
built.
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You
have
kelly
park
road
and
jason
dewelly
parkway
new
traffic
signal
in
that
area.
That
is
where
the
school
in
the
area
where
the
school
is
coming.
You
have
the
design
and
the
traffic
signal
construction
for
that
project.
You
have
vic
and
lester.
If
you
recall,
we've
done
the
design
for
this.
So
now
this
is
the
construction
portion
of
that
traffic
light
arrow
in
441.
There
are
significant
traffic
improvements
for
the
signal
there
and
bradshaw
441.
Also,
some
significant
traffic
signal
improvements.
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Road
resurfacing.
If
you
recall
we,
we
took
an
additional
million
dollars.
We
took
additional
million
dollars
from
our
rescue
monies
and
put
into
our
street
resurfacing
program.
It's
an
area
where
we've
struggled
in
gas
tax,
so
we
have
supplemented
that
with
some
of
those
dollars
so
that
we
can
have
more
money
for
our
road
resurfacing,
new
sidewalk
funding.
Again
I
talked
about
this
there's
there's
new
sidewalk
funding,
one
particular
area
is
the
new
school.
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Playground
for
camp
weewa,
there's
funding
in
there
for
that
there's,
recreation,
field,
equipment
and
mowers
included
in
here
several
vehicle
replacements
across
the
departments
tractor
there's
a
tractor
with
an
arm
so
that
we
can
get
into
those
those
storm
water
areas
it's
hard,
sometimes
to
mow
in
those
storm
water
areas,
because
it's
wet
and
we
can't
get
our
mowers
down
in
there.
Well.
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This
is
a
tractor
that
will
allow
us
to
mow
those
areas
without
having
to
get
down
into
those
those
wet
areas
and
then
there's
a
new,
automated
side
load
garbage
truck
grant
applications
that
are
outstanding.
You
have
10
new
police
officer
positions
that
we're
waiting
to
hear
from
from
the
grant.
You
have
police
officer
body
cameras,
we've
applied
for
a
grant
for
that.
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You've
got
a
fume
event
system
for
the
five
fire
stations
that
we've
applied
for
and
then
you
have
a
fire
safety,
educational,
trailer,
trailer
that
we've
also
applied
for
these.
We
have
not
heard
anything
yet.
I
was
hoping
we'd
have
information
for
you
today,
but
we
have
not.
I
know
some
jurisdictions
are
starting
to
hear
you'll
see
that
some
of
them
are
starting
to
hear
about
their
grant
applications.
So
as
soon
as
we
hear
something
we'll
we'll
bring
that
forward
so
items
that
were
excluded
in
your
fy
21
budget.
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As
you
know,
fire
station
6
was
not
included
last
year.
It
is
in
this
year's
budget,
the
fire
district
chief.
Those
are
three
of
the
positions
that
we've
asked
for
applied
for
in
the
grant
police
officers.
As
you
know,
we've
applied
for
10
office,
police
officers,
the
audio
video
city
council
in
the
city
council
chambers.
As
you
know,
that's
funded.
That's
that
process
has
begun
or
we've
awarded
that
contract.
So
you'll
see
those
improvements,
begin
computer
servers.
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Currently,
you
funded
some
of
that
with
your
duke
energy
dollars,
and
you
should
see.
We've
signed
the
agreement
with
that
with
that
company,
so
you
should
see
that
construction
taking
place
really
soon,
storage
building
for
recreation.
The
cemetery
you
funded
that
through
your
duke
energy
dollars,
and
so
that
will
that
is
funded
a
new
building
for
fleet
and
streets
division.
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As
you
know,
there's
money
in
the
budget
to
design
that
so
we're
going
to
study
and
design
that
this
year,
so
that
we
can
figure
out
exactly
what
do
we
need
what
size
of
building
do
we
need
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
meet
everybody's
needs,
city,
hall
and
public
services,
fiber
fiber
replacement.
We
have
not
funded
that
in
this
budget.
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Robert
hippler,
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t
department,
so
the
fiber
that
runs
down
to
public
services
is
a
direct
barrier.
There
is
no
marker
for
us
to
find
it
and
it's
usually
found
with
public
services
and
a
backhoe.
It's
been
cut
many
times
and
we
are
actually
out
of
additional
strands
on
that
fiber.
So
the
idea
is
to
get
other
at
least
a
24
count.
Fiber
down
there
to
future
future-proof
that
area.
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Going
rate,
if
we
sub-contract
that
out
per
mile
is
about
160
000
per
mile,
we're
roughly
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
our
distance.
I
think
we're
about
a
mile
and
three
quarters
down
as
the
crow
flies
down
to
public
services,
so
we're
roughly
sitting
somewhere
about
250
000
to
get
that
accomplished
and
that's
if
we
were
to
subcontract
that
out
to
somebody
and
again,
if
that
could
be
something
done
internally
here
with
the
manpower
you
know,
we
have
the
machinery
to
do
so.
We
would
certainly
save
a
lot
on
that.
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It's
pretty
touchy.
It's
not
very
clear
on
that,
commissioner,
we're
trying
to
get
information.
I
will
tell
you
I'm
trying
to
get
a
lot
of
information
together,
so
I
can
bring
that
back
to
you.
So
this
is
one
of
those
items
that
we
think
may
qualify
for
for
that.
It's
when
you
talk
broadband,
it
talks
about
providing
service
to
citizens
through
the
broadband,
not
with
our
our
own
infrastructure
within
the
city.
So
it's
very
clear
to
that,
but
there
have
been
some
some
things
there.
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I've
seen
some
language
where
we
may
be
able
to
use
the
dollar
for
some
those
dollars
for
some
other
things.
There
are
some
grant
specific
grants
related
to
this
kind
of
infrastructure.
These
kind
of
improvements,
so
we're
trying
to
see
if
we
can
qualify
for
that
first
and
then,
if
we
don't
qualify
for
that,
then
we'll
we'll
come
back
and
so
and
keep
in
mind
too
that
the
utility
fund,
a
lot
of
this,
would
would
be
funded
from
the
utility
fund,
and
so
some
of
this
would
be
funded
through
the
utility
fund.
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Trying
to
exhaust
all
of
the
grant-
that's
one
of
the
one
these.
This
is
one
of
the
grants
that
we're
working
with
with
our
lobbyists.
As
you
know,
we
hired
the
lobbyist
onto
and
again
there's
some
infrastructure
bills
that
are
still
taking
place.
Still,
negotiations
going
on
in
federal
government
we're
waiting
to
to
get
that
back
so
that
we
can
see
what
actually
we
will
qualify
for.
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You
know,
if
there's
anything
else,
we
can
qualify
that
we've
got
on
our
list
because
we've
given
them
our
cip
plan
we've
given
them
all
of
our
big
all
of
our
big
items
that
we
want
to
see
if
we
qualify
for
grant
opportunities
and
so
we'll
see
what
we
get
out
of
those
and
then
if
we
don't
get
some
of
those,
and
these
items
are
items
that
we
need
to
do,
we
need
to
ramp
up
and
do
earlier.
Then
we
will
come
back
and
and
present
them
to
you.
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D
Right,
no,
it's
been
an
issue,
an
ongoing
issue
that
we're
trying
to
work
with
you're
right.
It's
a
big,
it's
an
expensive
project
and
I
know
we're
looking
at
you
know:
we've
got
our
partners.
We've
worked
with
we've
airmarked
some
money
here
at
the
city.
We
put
our
we've
done
our
share,
trying
to
put
some
you
know
if
you
recall,
we
earned
250
000
from
our
duke
energy
dollars
and
so,
but
we're
there's.
We
the
grant
that
we've
applied
for
for
this
speaks
to
this
kind
of
a
project.
It's
very.
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So
an
overview
of
the
budget
so,
like
I
said,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
the
whole
thing
this
evening.
Unless
you
have
questions
or
or
you
want
something
highlighted,
but
as
you
can
see
the
overall
budget,
the
revenues
for
the
for
this
fiscal
year
are
just
over
130
million
dollars.
The
budget
is
balanced
at
130
million
dollars
for
from
the
revenue
side.
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So
where
do
those
dollars
where
they
come
from?
As
you
can
see,
property
taxes
represent
13
other
taxes,
which
are
your
like
municipal
service
tax.
Those
types
of
dollars
represent
almost
seven
percent
permits
and
fees.
Special
assessments
represent
about
five
and
a
half
percent
intergovernmental
revenues.
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So,
by
fund
those
revenues
by
fund
you
can
see,
the
general
fund
is
45
percent
of
the
overall
city
revenue.
Utility
impact
fees
are
14
percent
utility
operations.
That
is
the
operating.
That's
your
water
sewer
reclaimed,
water
operating
fund
is
20
percent
streets,
improvement
represents
about
four
percent,
and
you
can
see
all
the
other
funds
and
their
percentages
in
total
revenue
for
the
city.
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On
the
expenditure
side,
you
can
see
again.
The
budget
is
balanced
required
by
state
statute
that,
if
he
balanced
its
balance
at
130
million
dollars,
which
is
about
22.8
percent
increase
over
last
year's
budget,
you
can
see
that
these
are
all
the
different
summary
of
expenditure
by
type
from
personnel.
You
can
see
personnel
services
operating
capital,
outlay,
debt
service
transfers.
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The
transfers
number
is
up
again
we're
transferring
money
from
the
rescue,
the
grant
money
that
we
put
the
rescue
money
that
we
put
in
our
grant
fund
to
specifically
earmark
that
we're
transferring
a
million
of
that
into
the
streets
fund
for
road
resurfacing.
So
that's
where
your
transfer
numbers
is
bigger
this
year
and
then
on
the
bottom
you
can
see
by
function.
D
You
can
see
that
general
government
is
about
8
million,
I
mean,
as
you
can
go
down.
You
can
see
as
you
move
through
all
the
different
ones.
Public
safety
is
36,
almost
37
million
dollars,
so
so
from
the
expenditure
side
by
type.
This
is
the
picture
or
the
graphic
of
of
those
dollars.
You
can
see
that
38
of
it
is
personnel.
So
38
of
the
budget
goes
to
personnel
services.
21
go
to
operating
expenses,
28
percent
go
to
capital
outlay.
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By
function
you
can
see
here,
public
safety
represents,
28
percent
and
transportation
represents
about
10
percent
of
the
overall
expenditures.
The
utility
system
represents
20
little
more
than
25
percent
of
the
budget
and
then
sanitation's
about
four
percent.
So
you
can
see
the
different
functions
and
how
they?
What
piece
of
the
pie
they
have?
D
The
general
fund
side
general
fund
revenues.
This
is
the
these
are
tax.
These
are
the
taxes
overall
13
for
almost
a
13
increase.
Again,
the
significant
increase
here
is
the
utility
service
tax
public
service
tax.
You
can
see
that
the
big
increase
there
is
due
to
the
change
in
the
the
actual
rate
licenses
and
permits.
This
is
your
building
side,
so
you
have
an
increase
here
and
you're
building
permit
fees
from
from
the
licenses
and
permits
intergovernmental.
E
D
No,
I
think,
from
what
jim
and
his
group
are
working,
we're
going
to
bring
you
a
presentation
on
that
to
show
you
how
those
fees
compare
with
other
fees,
so
you'll
see
that
as
we
come
forward
in
the
future,
keep
in
mind
these
fees
have
to
have
to
be
used
for
that
building
department.
So
that's
they're
going
to
bring
that
back
to
you
trying
to
get
their
software
installed
and
once
they
get
their
software
installed,
they
can
bring
you
back
those
reports
and
bring
you
back
that
information.
D
So
we
want
that's
one
of
the
items
that
we're
going
to
bring
back
to
you,
so
you
can
see
how
we
compare
to
those
keep
in
mind.
It's
not
it's
not
so
much
how
you
on
those
how
you
compare
to
other
jurisdictions.
It's
are
those
dollars
covering
the
cost
of
your
building
department
that
that's
what's
critical
in
that.
D
See
a
fee
schedule
because
we
want
to
be
able
to
see
these
dollars
if
you
notice
we've
added
a
bill,
a
multi-code
inspector
we've
added
a
permit
clerk,
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
see.
Are
the
revenues
coming
in
covering
the
cost
to
provide
that
service?
And
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
the
software
in.
So
we
can
actually
give
you,
so
you
can
see
how
many
inspections
we've
done,
who's
doing
the
inspections,
how
much
the
what
the
workload
is?
You
know
because
we
don't
have
that.
D
Going-
and
we
can
do
that,
but
I
think
you're
also
concerned
you
want
to
know
how
we
compare
to
other
jurisdictions,
and
so
I
think
you
have
to
be
when
we
bring
all
that
you
can
you'll
be
able
to
see
all
that,
but
I
think
you
have
to
be
careful.
It's
not
just
on
those
fees.
It's
not
just
so
much
what
somebody
else
is
charging
it's
are
they
in
line
with
covering
recover,
covering
the
cost
of
your
building
department,
okay,
they're,
specifically
rated
related
to
the
building
department,
those
fees,
the
intergovernmental
revenue?
D
This
is
your
state
revenue
sharing
dollars,
as
you
can
see,
there's
eight
percent
in
the
state
revenue
sharing
and
almost
five
seven
and
a
half
percent
in
the
half
cent
sales
tax.
So
these
are
the
numbers
that
the
state
has
given
us.
So
we'll
continue
to
monitor
these
again,
an
overall
seven
percent
increase
in
this
revenue
source
charges
for
services
are
up
30
percent.
D
This
is
mainly
due
to
the
recreating
camp
wewa,
because
we
will
have
a
whole
new
revenue
to
offset
those
expenditures
in
the
camp.
We
will
fines
and
forfeitures
are
relatively
flat.
Miscellaneous
revenue
is
down,
and
you
can
see
that
you
know
investment
income
is
is
down
a
little
bit
based
on
the
economy,
non-operating
revenues.
These
are
all
your
reserves
and
your
transfers
again.
The
biggest
increase
here
is
using
the
reserves,
we're
using
1.3,
almost
1.4
million
dollars
of
the
reserves
to
help
balance
this
budget.
D
On
the
expenditure
side
of
the
general
fund,
total
general
government
is
only
up
about
one
percent
little
over
one
percent,
not
much
change
in
total
general
government,
public
safety
and
total
overall
is
up
about
11
little
over
11
percent
in
total
public
safety.
So
looking
overall
fires
up,
9.3
and
police
is
up
12.7.
D
Community
development
is
up
about
eight
percent
again.
This
is
your
building
two
new
building
positions
that
are
included
in
here:
public
services
facilities,
almost
a
million
dollars
increase
in
facilities,
so
we
put
a
lot
of
money
into
our
facilities.
This
is
the
air
conditioners.
This
is
the
building
maintenance,
repair
fire
alarms.
This
is
where
all
of
this
we
have
a
lots
of
dollars
in
those
facilities,
maintenance
parks
and
recreation.
D
D
So
where
do
the
revenues
come
into
the
general
fund?
Almost
41
percent
of
it
comes
from
taxes
licenses
and
permits.
12
intergovernmental
revenues
represent
almost
20
percent
charges
for
services,
seven
percent
and
then
transfers
twelve
point,
two
percent
two
point:
three
percent
transfers
from
other
funds
expenditure
side,
public
safety
represents
59
percent
of
the
total
general
fund
expenditure,
recreation
represents
11
and
a
half
administration
is
11.6
and
then
you
can
see
community
development
represents
about
4.6,
so
you
can
see
where
those
dollars
go
to.
D
On
the
expenditure
side,
and
with
that,
like
I
said
tonight,
you
have
to
set
the
final
millage
rate.
You
have
to
set
a
final
budget
and
we
have
to
notify
the
department
of
revenue,
the
property
appraiser
and
the
tax
collector
of
within
three
days
of
what
those
what
those
numbers
will
be.
So
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
The
staff
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
again.
Everything
has
been
published.
Everything
has
been
noticed,
so
all
requirements
have
been
met
from
the
trend
process.
H
We've
gotta
we've
gotta
have
the
conversation
when
you're
going
over
the
429.
This
is
something
that
people
pass
by
every
single
day.
I
I
get
that
we're
storing
some
trash
cans
or
piping
at
this
location,
but
it's
littered
with
graffiti.
It
looks
like
garbage:
it's
got
standing
stagnant
water
that
probably
breeds
exorbitant
amounts
of
mosquitoes.
H
H
H
H
This
is
a
pavilion.
The
parking
area
by
that
pavilion,
the
paleon,
was
not
maintained.
You've
got
weeds,
almost
overtaking
the
parking
lot
in
that
location.
The
handicapped
signs
apparently
weed
in
was
not
the
focus.
For
this
day
we've
got
potholes.
We've
got
disappearing
lines
again.
It's
a
safety
issue.
H
H
H
H
Another
thing
that
we
could
use
to
help
message
our
events.
We
have
these
things
all
throughout
our
city.
If
you
notice,
in
the
picture
hanging
from
the
light
post
prongs
to
put
banners,
we
have
them
here
in
the
city
hall
parking
lot.
We
have
them
all
the
way
up,
441
on
park,
avenue
and
other
locations
within
the
city,
maybe
twice
a
year,
they're
utilized
the
rest
of
the
time.
They
look
like
this.
H
H
I
mean
these
are
critical
needs
and
before
we
say
that
oh
we've
got
this
stuff
budgeted
for
2022
on
some
of
this
landscaping
and
the
striping
stuff,
we
carried
over
almost
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
450
000
in
the
streets
fund
into
this
budget
year,
because
we
didn't
do
these
things
a
lot.
Did
they
get
done.
F
Yeah,
I
would
say
this
would
have
been
a
great
great
presentation
at
the
beginning
of
our
budgeting
process,
budgeting
process
to
look
at
that
and
see.
Why
isn't
it
getting
done?
You
know,
as
we've
talked
about
there's,
we
did
put
more
funding
to
make
sure
that
we
have.
You
know
what
I
called
curb
appeal,
because
that
does
affect
our.
F
Like
that,
do
you
have
any
any
estimate
on
the
whole
of
the
things
that
you
showed
there,
what
it
would
have
cost
to
have
gotten
that
done,
and
those
are
things
I
would
have
liked
to
have
looked
at
when
we
had
all
of
the
extra
funding
coming
in
for
the
rescue
funds
that
we
could
have
said,
prioritize
wait
a
minute.
These
things
haven't
been
done.
I
thought
some
of
these
were
funded
as
far
as
you
know,
more
money
for
making
sure
that
are
mowing
those
different
things.
F
F
We
we've
done
an
incredible
amount
in
in
two
back-to-back
very
difficult
years.
So
if
we
were
doing
nothing
and
not
moving
forward,
we
did
raise
those
funds.
But
where
do
we
draw
that
line?
We
can
always
say
had
we
done
more,
we
could
have
done
more
with
it
or
we
can
go
back
and
say
well,
wait
a
minute
if
these
were
issues.
Why
didn't
we
address
them
when
we
were
going
through
the
budgeting
process?
So
it's
you
know
very,
very
important.
H
I
mean
I've.
I've
presented
pictures
like
that
in
this
chambers
before
right,
the
same
thing
at
the
parks
and
rex
location.
I
I
did
it
either
last
budget
workshop
or
sometime
within
the
last
budget
workshop
to
this
one,
because
there
was
pictures
of
the
weed
bed
next
to
the
front
sign
off
of
poncan
road.
You
know
how
the
the
trees
weren't
being
edged
around
the
base
of
those
trees
next
to
the
pop
corner
field,
so
I've
brought
it
up
in
the
past
and.
A
That's
what
I'm
saying
so
we've
got
a
new
sign
going
in
at
pond.
That's
that's
and
we've
got
a
new
sign
going
in
at
caitlyn
nelson
park.
I
mean
some
of
these
things.
Just
I
mean
it's
great
to
grandstand
in
front
of
city
council
about
things
that
you
know
our
parks
and
wrecks
or
our
streets
would
take
care
of.
As
far
as
the
streets
go,
you
know,
we've
got.
We
got
the
the
survey
coming
in
to
look
at
which
roads
maybe
need
to
be.
You
know,
replaced
or
fixed.
A
We
also
before
school.
I
had
we
got
with
pam
and
with
paul,
and
we
made
sure
that
all
of
the
crosswalks
at
the
schools
were
repainted.
Now,
it's
probably
maybe
only
a
year,
two
years,
depending
on
where
they
are
in
the
cycle
of
repaving,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
schools
had
proper
striping
for
the
kids
to
go
across
at
those
crosswalks.
A
So
we
have
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
I
think
if
you,
if
you
drive
around
and
you
go
from
orange
county
to
the
city
of
apopka
on
the
major
thoroughfares,
I
would,
I
would
venture
to
say
that
ours
looked
better
across
across
the
board
and
I
think
our
our
you
know
our
our
landscape.
Guy
has,
you
know,
he's
he's
struggled
this
year,
not
for
lack
of
trying,
but
he's
had
a
hard
time
getting.
A
You
know
the
the
people
that
he
needs,
but
I
can
tell
you
I've
seen
him
out
there
saturday
and
sunday
mowing
441
and
436,
making
sure
that
you
know
he
tries
to
keep
up
with
what
we've
what
we've
requested.
But
you
know
we
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress.
I
mean
you
see,
city
hall,
we're
about
ready
to
get
this
all
re-landscaped,
so
things
are
things
are
coming
around
and
and
it
just
a
lot
of
these
things,
are
you
know
we
could
have
been?
A
H
No,
and-
and
I
appreciate
edward-
I
I
didn't
purposely-
didn't-
include
sidewalks
in
this
one,
because
every
time
I
send
a
sidewalk
repair,
it's
it's
quickly
done,
and
I
appreciate
that.
I
don't
view
this
as
grandstanding.
I
think
these
are
all
critical
needs
and
again
I've
presented
stuff
like
this
in
city
council
chambers,
before
I've,
also
emailed
as
residents
put
their
request
forward.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
if
we
think
this
is
an
execution
issue,
okay,
fine,
let's
manage
through
that.
H
If
we're
saying
but
me
as
a
lay
person
outside
looking
in
is
from
where
I
sit
as
a
commissioner,
I
have
to
assume
that
these
basic
things
aren't
getting
done.
It
has
to
be
funding
resource
capacity
and
other
things
that
aren't
necessarily
directly
related
to
execution,
and
if
it's
a
funding
mechanism
and
again
that's
what
I
have
to
believe,
then
we
should
be
providing
those
departments
with
the
proper
and
adequate
funding
to
get
the
job
done
properly.
H
I
will
not
ever
say
that
I'm
grandstanding,
when
it
comes
to
properly
staffing,
our
fire
department
and
again
we
we
heard
that
houston
was
the
model
the
last
meeting.
Since
then,
I've
had
several
people
bring
to
attention
that
houston
does
use
a
three
or
maybe
even
four
person,
engine
staffing
model.
So
you
know
if
we
want
to
say
that
we're
trying
to
get
past
the
houston
model.
I
fully
agree
and
I
think
we
should
get
there.
H
I
disagree
with
the
idea
that,
just
because
we
have
something
formally
in
the
budget
that
we
compromise
our
ability
to
get
grants,
because
I
think
the
staffing
levels
for
both
the
police
and
fire
have
come
to
the
idea
that
we
meet,
we
need
more
than
what
we're
applying
for
the
grants
with.
So
I
appreciate
your
opinion.
I
just
disagree
with
it.
H
E
E
E
E
D
D
A
A
So
in
2004
17
years
ago,
we've
run
the
same
kind
of
a
program
with
the
squads,
so
under
chief
anderson,
chief
bronson
chief
carnacali
and
chief
willam,
we've
always
had
a
two-man
squad
and
a
two-man
fire
truck
apparatus.
So
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
17
years
later
now
it's
important
that
we
go
to
three.
So
I
don't
know,
what's
changed.
H
You
know
where
it's
15
person
minimum
on
these
calls.
That's
why
I
was
saying
last
year
and
you
can
only
respond
to
one
structure
fire
in
the
city
at
a
time
when
you
only
staff
at
29,
and
so
it's
it's
a
combination
of
things.
It's
it's
two
or
three
main
topics
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
with
the
information
that
I
have
now
currently
at
hand,
it
makes
sense
to
do
the
staffing
model
that
we're
sitting
up,
or
at
least
I'm
sitting
up
here,
trying
to
advocate
for
but
I'll.
Let
you
explain.
B
H
B
It's
your
methodology,
how
we
get
there,
and
you
said
that
you
want
to
make
sure
it's
done
correctly,
and
so
I'm
standing
firm
on
the
fact
that
we
don't
receive
the
grant
that
we're
going
to
fund
those
six
that
you're
requesting
now
from
the
reserve.
Three,
you
say
the
fire
district
chiefs
and
three
firefighters
and
then
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
You
said
you
want
to
do
it
in
the
right
way.
I
C
I
I
The
signing
of
the
right
personnel
is
vitally
important.
I
get
that
so.
We've
always
had
had
two
people
assigned
to
it.
It's
it's
nothing's
changed
as
far
as
to
answer
your
question,
as
that
goes
what
we
want.
When
I
establish
now
and
my
priority
this
year,
I
asked
for
it
last
year
because
one
of
the
things
was
left
out
last
year
as
a
district
chief.
Okay,
that's
a
safety
related
issue.
That's
my
priority!
This
year.
To
get
that
established,
we
need
supervision.
We
need
the
span
of
control
control.
I
We
have
seven
lieutenants
right
now
we
have
six
engines
and
one
tower
truck.
That's
seven
lieutenants
per
shift
right
now
we
have
one
district
chief
who
supervises
all
these
people
well
now,
if
we
do
respond
to
multiple
calls,
we
want
those
districts
to
be
able
to
disperse.
We
want
a
safety
officer,
we,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
when
I
looked
at
this
week
as
well,
we're
handling
our
call
volume
we're
able
to
we
we
respond.
We
have
a
contract
with
the
county
that
we
run
29's
area
as
well.
I
I
I
can
tell
you
right
now:
we
have
a
phenomenal
department
and
I'm
saying
that
0.8
in
the
country,
iso
1-
and
I
know
sometimes
that
is
the
litmus
test
putting
in
for
these
grants-
is
the
litmus
test.
In
my
opinion,
we've
applied
for
them
for
multiple
years.
What
I'm
trying
to
apply
for,
because
last
time
we
put
in
for
18
and
I
contacted
the
fema
rep
after
we
applied
for
the
grant-
that's
the
one
who
steered
me
towards
these
nfpa
studies.
I
Everything
I
present
to
you
guys
is
guidance
from
them
to
see
how
we
can
get
to
where
we
need
to
go.
The
squad
systems
have
are
in
place.
They've
worked
for
years
for
20
years
again
we're
going
to
are
we
going
to
grow?
Absolutely?
Are
we
going
to?
Are
we
going
to
increase
our
manpower
when
it's
necessary
absolutely,
but
I
can
tell
you
right
now:
we
have
a
bang-up
department.
A
I
Outside
the
contract,
that's
not
even
that
that's
not
including
29's
contract
area.
That's
that's
a
normal
run
for
us
now,
because
that's
our
contract
area,
again
things
we
look
at.
I
get
it
we're
growing.
We
all
want
to
same
as
chief
mckinley.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
moving
that
direction,
but
what
my
priorities?
Now
you
want
to
talk
about
safety?
Let's
talk
about
safety
as
a
district
chief
and
starting
to
move
that
direction.
Absolutely.
H
I
I
Yeah
and
as
we
increase
our
our
you
know
when
you,
when
you
look
at
you
know,
when
you
ask,
can
we
handle
more
than
one
fire
call
at
once?
Well
we're
not
in
orlando,
yet
we're
getting
there
we're
more
we're
more
the
kohi
sizes
right
now
that
we
talked
about
last,
the
last
council
meeting,
how
we're
three
or
four
thousand
less
than
them
that
affects
how
much
money
we
get
from
we're
more
in
that
in
ocoee.
Right
now
cannot
handle
more
one
fire
on
their
own
without
the
help
of
the
county.
I
That's
why
those
agreements
are
in
place,
that's
where
things
are
in
place
and
how
that
all
works.
It's
a
mutually
thing,
but
we
are
handling.
We
proved
it
by
showing
what
we
run
on
a
daily
basis
and
how
many
times
we're
assisting
them.
They,
they
signed
a
contract
with
us
to
help
them.
You
know
on.
F
F
And
we
we
did
go
after
the
truck,
we
were
beginning
to
see
higher
buildings,
bigger
buildings,
and
so
we
got
the
tower
truck.
We
begin
to
go
that
direction.
I
don't
have
any
issue
with
our
aim:
changing
our
model
changing
if
the
structure
of
our
city
is
changing,
if
we
again
the
bigger
industrial
processes,
if
it
takes
more
to
be
effective
in
that,
then
let's
get
there,
but
the
issue
is.
F
We
can't
do
all
of
that
at
once
again
this
presentation,
I
would
have
changed
how
we
should
have
spent
some
of
those
extra
dollars
that
came
in
had
we
seen
that
and
you
have
presented
that
before
and
we
did
increase
funding
for
for
our
mowing.
For
these
so
had
I
known
it
wasn't
being
covered.
You
know
I
would
have
said
well,
let's
look
at
how
we
we
approach
that.
F
Time
you
know,
we've
got,
we've
got
the
needs
on
one
hand,
we
have
the
taxpayers.
On
the
other
hand,
we
have
what
we've
been
through
as
a
whole
in
a
community
we've
got
to
take
all
these
things
into
consideration.
I
don't
think
we
have
backed
off
in
our
support
for
fire
over
this
time.
We've
had
to
simply
increase
it
for
our
police.
We
should
have
been
equal
all
the
way
along,
but
we
found
ourselves
behind
we've
been
making
strides
to
catch
up.
I
was
in
the
understanding
that
we
are
moving
forward.
F
We
are
hiring
six
more.
You
know
that
400
000..
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up
earlier,
a
concern
one
of
the
firefighters
sent
in
a
letter
and
said
that
you
know
one
of
the
uses
that
he
could
see
for
extra
400
000
would
be
for
mold
mitigation
at
the
fire
stations.
It's
an
ongoing
health
issue
that
we've
been
trying
to
get
assistance
with
and
get
under
control
for
years.
That's
the
first
time
I
had
heard
that
I'm.
I
F
F
You
know
back
when
we
set
that
temporary
millage
rate,
so
we
pushed
higher.
Some
of
those
things
were
resolved.
Some
numbers
came
in
better,
so
where
do
we
go?
We've
got
a
taxpayer
base
that
has
been
through
some
of
the
two
most
difficult
years.
We
have
restaurants
that
are
closing
businesses
that
are
closing
people
that
have
lost
their
jobs.
People
that
have
not
been
able
to
catch
up
the
insurance
rates
are
skyrocketing
right
now.
The
the
gas
of
course
is
going
up
food.
F
I
saw
a
study
just
the
other
day
that
in
this
next
several
months
we
will
see
food
prices
increasing.
These
are
practical
issues
that
affect
every
common
person's
budget.
So
again,
I'm
not
trying
to
argue
anyone
else.
I
respect
everyone
up
here
and
I
want
to
get
to
that
goal.
I'll
just
say
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
in
a
wise
way.
F
That's
not
strangling
the
cow,
that's
giving
the
milk
also
have
citizens
that
are
saying
there
are
those
who
say:
let's
raise
it
because
they're
in
a
good
position
and
it
it's
good
for
them.
You
know,
but
there
are
others
on
all
spectrums
of
the
scale
that
have
said
no
we're.
We
are
getting
hit
on
every
side.
F
So
for
me
it
is
not
against
our
firefighters.
I
I
love
our
fire
department
and
support
them
wholeheartedly.
So
this
has
been
anguish
for
me
to
not
say
well,
let's
fund
the
whole
thing,
but
I
am
saying
we
are
taking
steps.
My
understanding
is,
we've
got
six
there.
We
have
reserved
enough
funds,
so
if
the
grant
didn't
come
through,
then
we
will
still
fund
them
and
again
that's
one
step
forward.
F
Do
both
of
those
all
at
once
or
you
know,
if
we
did
raise
that
millage
rate,
we
could
use
the
exact
same
arguments
for
the
next
level
of
millage
rate
that
it's
a
hypothetical
that
never
stops
so
again.
Are
there
places
that
we
could
use
those
funds?
Of
course
there
are,
but
where
do
we
draw
the
line?
That's
the
real
question
and
for
me
all
those
things
put
together.
F
F
About
that,
let's
focus
on
it,
but
I
don't
think
that's
the
reason
to
to
change
this.
I
think
it's
a
healthy
thing.
It's
a
a
little
bit
of
a
breather
for
our
taxpayers
to
say:
hey,
we
do
care
about
you
too,
so
so,
while
we
still
are
trying
to
accomplish
the
things
they
want
us
to,
do
it's
a
challenge.
Yeah.
H
And
let
me
let
me
address
the
comment
that
you
made
again.
What
I
just
presented
tonight
is
pictures
pictures
to
words
that
I've
said
over
and
over
and
over
again,
so
nothing
that
is
in
this,
with
the
exception,
I'll
I'll
admit
that
the
ones
the
the
polls,
the
advertising,
the
banners
for
the
polls.
That's
the
only
thing
in
this
presentation.
I've
never
brought
up
in
the
past.
H
What
I'm
saying
is
that
we
have
we
have
no.
No.
This
is
a
state
of
affairs
that
has
been.
I
car
come
back
to
last
budget
workshop
a
year
ago,
and
there
was
a
comment
made
on
this
diocese
to
say
no
one's
going
to
remember
a
year
from
now
that
the
grass
was
12
inches
too
high.
So
these
are
issues
that
I've
said
repeatedly
are
at
at
an
issue
I
mean
we
I'll
again
use
lester
road
striping.
H
As
an
example,
we've
said
in
previous
past
years
that
that
would
be
taken
care
of
after
I
believe
some
of
the
vic
road
repaving.
Oh
we'll,
have
extra
money
to
do
some
striping
unless
that
never
happened,
never
came
to
fruition.
So
these
things!
Well,
I
you
know
we
say
that
we
have
budget
for
it.
I
just
don't
have
proof,
and
I
think
it's
more
prudent
to
prove
that
we
can
get
these
things
done
then
lower
the
millage
versus
trusting
that
things
that
haven't
been
getting
done
will
get
done
and
again
we're
using.
H
We
have
to
be
careful
now,
because
what
we're
saying
is
that
we've
got
six
fire.
If
we
don't
get
grant
funding
to
come
from
reserve,
we've
got
10
police.
If
we
don't
get
grant
funding
that
comes
from
reserve,
we've
got
the
venting
that
will
come
from
reserve
if
we
don't
get
these
grants.
We're
now
treading
in
the
area
where
we're
treating
our
reserve
fund
as
an
operational
account,
not
a
rainy
day
fund,
as
we've
all
sat
up
here
and
said,
needs
to
happen.
H
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
people
with
hand,
hands
open
wanting
reserve
balance
funds
if
they
don't
get
the
grants
that
they're
offering
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
tax
money,
which
I
think
is
fair.
It
keeps
the
tax
rate
the
same
exact
that
it
is
today,
hedges
our
bets.
If
we
don't
get
those
grants
and
we
need
to
spend
on
critical
spends
in
our
city.
H
F
You
when
you
brought
that
up
last
year,
I
agreed
with
you
and
we
did
increase
for
mowing
for
those
different
things,
so
it
wasn't
ignored
and
it
was
addressed
and
we
did
add
to
it.
So
if
it's
not
being
executed
properly.
Yes,
we
should
address
that.
I
just
we're
right
now
at
the
the
final
decision
and
and
again
being
presented.
Yes,
you
brought
those
up,
but
we
have
responded
so
again
if
I
saw
these
pictures
back
when
we
were
doing
this
at
that
point
and
realize.
Okay,
these
things
are
not
getting
done.
Then.
F
I
would
have
said
some
of
these
monies,
these
extra
monies
that
we
brought
in
that
we
put
towards
other
remember
I
wanted
to
pay
off
our
debt,
but
we
decided
well.
We
need
to
put
it
there,
so
we
didn't
do
that
because
something
was
presented.
So
I
would
just
simply
say
you
know
again
good
job
bringing
those
up.
I
just
I
think
we
could
have
found
that
and
still
bring
the
relief
and
the
incremental
steps
and
and
again
for
me,
if
we
take
this,
it's
not
going
to
solve
our
problem.
F
We've
got
to
deal
with
it
from
the
impact
funds.
New
growth
needs
to
be
taken.
Care
of
it
needs
to
take
care
of
the
new
impact
that
it
creates.
So
I
think,
there's
ways
to
do
this.
We
are
moving
forward.
We
are
making
a
difference.
There
are
things
in
place.
We
can
always
execute
better.
We
will
say
that
every
year
that
we're
here,
but
I
I
I
don't
think
that
that
relief
to
the
taxpayer
is
answers
all
those
things
I
again.
Yes,
we
could
use
that
much
money.
We
could
use
that
much
more.
F
F
I
love
taking
care
of
infrastructure,
but
if
this
is
more
important
than
right
now
we
can
sharpen
the
pencil
say
you
know
what
some
of
that
money
just
like
we
did
with
the
debt
we
didn't
pay
off.
All
of
it.
We
can
say:
okay,
if
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
I'm
simply
asking
with
that
presentation.
How
much
is
it
going
to
cost
to
take
care
of
those
issues,
and
is
that
funding
there?
F
F
We
need
to
make
those
decisions
now,
but
we
have
taken
a
big
step,
and
so
it
was
big
for
fire.
Then
it's
big
for
police
while
still
moving
forward-
and
I
do
agree-
I
think,
the
three
per
truck.
If
that's
the
standard
for
where
we
are
changing
as
a
community,
then
that
needs
to
be
a
goal
and
we
can
get
there.
Let's
just
do
it
in
a
way.
That's
not
going
to
you
know,
break
the
back.
B
And
if
I
remember
correctly
last
budget
cycle,
we
sent
staff
back
and
told
them
to
take
the
additional
funding
that
was
talking
about
letting
go
to
to
put
it
into
public
works
so
that
we
could
take
care
of
the
grass
and
those
things
and-
and
so,
if
that
didn't
do
it,
then
something
is
wrong.
We
need
to
reevaluate
and
then,
when
I
looked
at
the
400
000
dollars,
we
were
talking
about
keeping
or
not
keeping.
B
B
15
and
their
comment
was
fifteen
dollars
may
not
sound
like
a
lot
to
us
because
they
think
we're
rich
sitting
up
here,
but
they
said
to
them
that
fifteen
dollars
means
a
whole
lot
and
even
if
it's
only
at
tax
time
when
it's
time
for
them
to
pay
a
tax
bill,
that
15
could
make
a
difference
where
they
paid
it
or
not.
So
those
15
dollars
mean
a
lot
to
them
and
they
don't
want
to
make
a
a
joke
out
of
the
savings
that
we're
talking
about.
A
J
J
J
I
have
extreme
confidence
in
this
department's
ability
to
protect
my
home
from
the
threat
of
fire.
I
have
this
confidence
because
I
know
the
culture
of
the
apopka
fire
department
and
the
aggressiveness
and
selflessness
that
they
have
firefighters
are
among
the
best
humans
in
society.
I
know
because
I
see
it
firsthand.
J
J
The
apopka
fire
department
should
be
supported,
150
percent
by
the
city
administration
and
the
fire
department's
administration.
The
most
important
way
they
can
be
supported
right
now,
is
by
providing
adequate
and
appropriate
staffing
first
priority
is
the
units
responding
to
9-1-1
calls?
We
drop
everything
when
the
bell
goes
off.
We
give
150
percent
to
the
public.
We
serve
in
the
shower
on
the
toilet,
cooking
dinner
training.
It
makes
no
difference,
we
go.
That
is
why
these
men
and
women
should
receive
the
same
effort
from
the
support
roles
in
administration.
J
Second,
priority
is
ensuring
that
they
have
proper
equipment,
training
facilities
accomplish
the
mission.
I
will
praise
the
city
of
apopka
and
the
fire
department's
administration
for
providing
incredible
equipment
and
a
beautiful
training
facility.
It
makes
a
huge
difference
and
it
does
not
go
unnoticed
by
the
surrounding
agencies.
J
J
J
Fire
doubles
in
size
every
30
seconds
that
is
relevant
because
not
having
a
firefighter
backwards
on
every
engine
and
tower
dressed
and
ready
to
go
when,
when
they
arrive,
is
putting
victims
and
firefighters
at
high
risk
of
death
and
injury,
a
firefighter
and
I'll
add
a
firefighter
waiting
to
offload
a
patient
on
the
wall
of
the
hospital.
It
does
not
count
as
a
third
firefighter
it
matters
that
we
get
the
truck
in
under
a
minute
and
get
to
the
truck
in
under
a
minute.
J
It
matters
that
the
fire
station
is
within
a
certain
mileage
of
the
fire.
It
matters
that
firefighters
are
aggressive
in
their
fire
attack
and
victim
search.
It
matters
that
every
fire
suppression
unit
has
at
least
three,
but
ideally
four.
It
matters
that
the
firefighters
show
up
in
gear
ready
to
fight
fire
without
delay.
J
The
dice
is
being
rolled
too
often
with
the
current
model.
I
understand
the
times
we
are
in
and
I
am
not
out
of
touch
with
the
struggles
that
people
are
going
through.
We
definitely
should
not.
Excuse
me.
We
definitely
should
not
be
even
considering
things
like
buying
campgrounds
or
non-critical
expenditures
if
any
part
of
our
public
services
are
in
need,
police
and
fire
should
be
the
highest
priority.
J
I
know
that
most
of
you,
if
not
all
desire
to
accomplish
this
goal,
I
pray
that
you
have
creative
ideas
and
invest
much
time
in
accomplishing
them.
Please
ride.
Along
with
the
firefighters.
Please
try
to
understand
why
the
staffing
is
so
important.
Do
not
wait
until
a
firefighter
dies
or
a
savable
civilian
dies
to
heed
all
of
the
warnings.
J
A
E
Let
me
I
know
that
you
had
said
you
put
in
for
the
firefighters
through
a
grant
was
that
through
the
safer
grant
program,
also
that's
the
one
that
yeah,
because
I
saw
that
they
are
awarding
that
just
one
question
regarding
both
police
and
fire-
and
I
know
we
put
in
for
10
for
the
police
department
and
I
can
tell
you
from
back
2014
mckinley
had
been
asking
for
that.
So
I'm
happy
that
he
is
getting
that.
E
I
E
F
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
chris.
I
appreciated
your
presentation.
I
think
there's
some
great
ideas.
It
was
going
so
fast
there
I
was
trying
to
write
some
of
those
down.
I
think
those
are
some
great
goals
and
any
way
we
can
make
the
best
better
is
great.
It
should
be
the
goal.
It
should
be
the
aspiration
again
these
standards.
I
actually
called
and
spoke
with
chris
today
after
receiving
his
letter-
and
I
appreciate
that
and
and
todd
or
appreciated
your
letter
it
just
it
helps
give
that
perspective.
F
It
is
our
intention
and
goal
to
keep
moving
that
direction
while
trying
to
balance
the
whole
of
the
rest-
and
I
hope
that
you-
you
guys,
know
that
and
know
how
much
we
do
support
you,
and
so
you
know
at
that
point
again
with
the
presentation
the
chief
gave
listening
to
different
firefighters.
Talking
with
him,
our
iso
that's
a
great
number,
but
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it's
it's
effective
and
I
actually
asked
the
question:
is
it
too
low
of
a
standard?
Is
the
iso
one
too
low
of
a
standard?
F
It's
and
no
it's
a
good
standard.
So
if
we're
meeting
that
standard
it's
good,
but
that
doesn't
mean
it's
answering
where
we're
going
so
that
made
sense
to
me
when
I
talked
with
chris
how
we
are
changing
as
a
city
may
we
may
need
to
change
that
model,
even
though
it
has
worked
well
in
the
past
and
with
all
the
former
firefighters.
We
are
changing
and
we
are
growing.
So
you
know
we
want
to
support
that
and
stand
with
that
and
continue
to
move
that
direction.