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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting April 7, 2021
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on April 7, 2021 at 1:30 PM.
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B
Your
continued
guidance,
your
leadership,
your
direction,
that
all
that
we
shall
say
and
do
will
be
pleasing
and
acceptable
in
your
sight.
Bless
these
in
our
presence.
This
afternoon
bless
the
homes
of
which
they
represent,
bless
these
councils.
We
make
decisions
that
would
affect
the
lives
of
the
citizens
in
the
city
of
apopka.
All
these
things
we
ask
in
our
son,
jesus
name,
amen.
A
B
On
april,
7,
1805
lewis
and
clark
resumed
their
westfield
expedition.
After
spending
the
summer
camp
along
the
upper
missouri
river
near
present
day
bismarck
north
dakota,
they
began
their
expedition
in
the
spring
of
1804,
near
st
louis
missouri,
as
part
of
efforts
to
explore
and
map
out
land
west
of
the
mississippi
river
brought
as
a
part
of
the
louisiana
purchase
in
the
spring
of
1805.
A
Okay,
anybody
need
any
adjustments
to
the
minutes.
I
had
one
small
slight
change,
susan
on,
let's
see
what
page
page
13
at
the
bottom
says,
commissioner
velasquez
said
that
the
question
for
one
of
the
residents
sent
an
email
today
and
said
that
prior
to
the
school
opening
next
year,
would
there
be
a
traffic
signal
light
on
kelly
park
road?
So
you
just
had
kelly.
A
F
D
A
Oh
well,
this
is
a
proclamation
for
we
we're
working
on
this.
How
many
years?
Because
you
know
last
year,
we
didn't
have
the
foliage
festival,
so
we
had
to
go
back
and
and
re-uh
redo
the
to
make
it
the
59th.
So
anyway,
I
want
to
read
the
proclamation.
You
know
this
has,
you
know,
become
absolutely
our
number
one
event.
You
know
across
the
city.
A
H
We're
very
excited
to
have
this
festival
this
year,
especially
since
it
was
canceled
last
year,
we're
looking
forward
to
being
bigger
and
better.
We've
got
a
full
complement
of
artists,
crafters
and
foliage
specialists,
not
to
mention
lots
of
good
food,
and
this
year
we're
going
to
have
a
beer
and
wine
garden,
which
will
be
a
first
for
us.
So
we're
very
excited.
We
welcome
all
the
citizens
of
apopka
to
come
and
see
us
great.
A
I
I
I
I
A
I
E
E
I
J
Good
morning
or
good
afternoon,
gary
childress
3914
caledonia
avenue
in
rock
springs
bridge
dear
honorable,
mayor
and
city
commissioners.
I
would
like
to
give
thanks
to
you
for
continuing
to
work
with
our
hoa
towards
securing
the
former
golf
course
lands
for
our
community
once
and
for
all,
so
that
we
may
end
our
ever-present
ever
looming
threat
of
houses
being
built
on
our
beloved
and
treasured
green
space.
J
It
is
also
my
hope
that
our
community
will
be
made
whole
once
again
and
various
problems
that
resulted
from
the
addition
of
300
magical
acres
and
over
building
from
of
almost
200
excess
homes
will
be
addressed
and
remedied
in
an
amicable
way
for
all
my
fellow
neighbors
and
families
who
have
been
adversely
affected
by
it.
I
am
confident
that,
with
your
assistance,
rock
springs
ridge
will
continue
to
thrive
as
one
of
apopka's
premier
communities.
J
K
Okay,
my
concerns
are
the
activities
around
at
this
point:
the
activities
around
10th
street
and
central
okay
number
one.
We
have
the
store
there,
that's
selling
beer
and
the
guys
come
out
and
drink
around
the
store
and
across
the
street
you
have
the
church.
So
what
is
our?
What
are
the
city
rules
on
open
containers
and
dragons
bill
being
sold
at
a
religious
establishment?
K
K
The
next
thing
is
parking
on
10th
street.
On
the
city
side,
you
had
no
parking
signs
down
through
there
and
you
had
shrubbery
line
through
there,
but
yet
they
still
park
on
the
sidewalks.
Both
sides,
no
police,
do
anything
about
moving
them,
but
I'm
saying
if
it
was
across
other
parts
of
the
time.
What
would
happen
do
I
have
to
continue
to
live
with
this?
You
know
and
other
peoples
can
live
free
without
it,
and
then
you
have
trash
pickup
in
our
area
in
the
city.
K
K
L
A
Mr
howard,
I
would
suggest
if
you'd
like
you
got
chief
and
deputy
chief
in
the
back
on
the
back
row,
taking
notes
I
see
if
you'd
like.
If
you
just
want
to
call
my
office,
then
I
can
bring
josh
in
from
our
solid
waste
and
we
can
just
sit
down
and
kind
of
go
through.
Those
issues
be
happy
to
sit
down
with
you
and
let's
see
what
you
know,
what
we
can
you
know
find
so,
chief,
if
you'll
kind
of
research,
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
our
the
open
container.
A
A
Can
you
come
down?
We
probably
need
to
put
this
get
this
on
record.
Well,
I'll,
tell
you
what
mr
howard?
Won't?
We
just
do
this
chief,
let's
just
get
a
meeting
in
the
next
week
if
you'll
just
contact
my
office
and
let's
sit
down
and
we
kind
of
go
through
the
issues
and
we'll
we'll
we'll
address
each
one
of
them.
If
that
will
that
work
for
you,
mr
howard,
okay,
yes,
okay,
awesome!
Thank
you.
M
M
You
know
our
six
years
of
learning
together
and
so
the
passion
and
the
foresight
and
the
vision
that
you
guys
have
have
demonstrated
here
for
the
city
of
apopka
we're
trying
to
do
in
maitland,
and
so
our
next
mayor
will
be
john
lowndes
jr
he's
taller
better,
looking
smarter,
so
the
city
we
will
be
fine,
but
but
I
wanted
to
stop
in
and
say
hello
to
you
guys.
Y'all
have
been
terrific.
M
I
know
you
all,
and
so
it's
been
a
great
working
relationship
and
that's
what
it
really
is
all
about
at
this
level
is
relationships
and
being
able
to
trust
people.
You
talk
to
and
seek
advice
from
that,
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
Looking
for
the
same
things
to
do
things
that
impress
our
grandchildren.
So
thanks
again
appreciate
it.
A
N
A
Thanks
for
coming
out
all
right
with
that
got
consent
agenda.
This
got
two
items
there.
Any
anybody
need
to
pull
either
one
of
those
items.
Okay,
if
not
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
two
agenda.
Items
on
the
consent
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
velazquez,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
J
O
This
is
a
request
to
approve
the
summer
house
at
lake
apopka
apartments,
preliminary
and
final
development
plan.
Please
note
that
this
project
is
subject
to
the
1993
land
development
code,
the
property,
a
total
of
about
16
acres,
is
located
east
of
state
road,
451
west
of
martin
road,
north
of
state,
road,
414
and
lot
3
of
the
martin
ridge,
replat.
O
The
preliminary
final
development
plan
proposes
the
construction
of
summer
house
apartments
at
lake
apopka
as
a
gated
and
private
apartment
complex,
comprising
of
264
multi-family
units.
The
proposed
minimum
living
area
is
750
square
feet.
The
amenities
include
a
pool
clubhouse
and
a
retention
pond
is
centrally
located
on
site
and
designed
as
an
open
space
amenity
that
includes
pedestrian
elements
such
as
benches
sidewalk
and
a
fountain.
O
This
site
will
have
a
single
access
point
from
martin
road
right
and
left
turn
lanes
will
be
constructed
at
the
site
entrance.
Additionally,
the
land
development
code
requires
two
parking
spaces
per
unit
and
per
code.
528
spaces
are
required.
The
development
plan
includes
416
parking
spaces,
112
fewer
than
required
by
code.
O
The
applicant
has
submitted
a
parking
demand,
shared
parking
analysis
and
based
on
that
analysis,
summer
house
is
proposing
parking
spaces
at
a
rate
of
1.58
per
unit,
which
exceeds
the
average
demonstrated
demand
of
1.5
spaces
per
unit
by
10
parking
spaces,
because
there
is
cross
access.
The
total
number
of
parking
spaces
available
is
960
a
rate
of
1.79
spaces
per
unit
which
exceeds
the
parking
demand
by
156
spaces.
O
O
Development
review
committee
recommends
approval
and
that
march,
on
the
march
9
2021
meeting,
the
planning
commission
recommended
approval.
The
recommended
motion
snap
today
is
to
approve
the
summer
house
at
lake
apopka.
Preliminary
final
development
plan
staff
and
applicant
are
available
for
questions.
F
F
P
Q
Yes,
that's
correct,
but
we're
going
to
signalize
that
intersection.
Another
developer
is
going
to
add
turn
lanes
and
signalize
the
intersection.
So
it's
just
you
know
a
matter
of
time
that
should
be
happening,
probably
get
it
designed
next
this
year,
maybe
it
gets
constructed
in
a
year
or
so.
So
it's
taken
care
of
here's,
the
bottom,
okay,
good.
R
S
Roger's
back
at
7,
west
main
street,
just
one
thing
I
just
kind
of
want
to
address
somebody
bringing
to
you
guys
attention
currently
on
martin
from
coy
apoca
on
up
to
the
new
intersection
or
martin
there's
really
no
street
lights
there.
So
maybe
it
might
be
a
good
time
to
maybe
coordinate
with
duke
to
maybe
install
some
street
lights
along
morton
road.
So
we
were
out
there
kind
of
doing
it
on.
S
Q
F
N
A
U
That
area
is
there
a
plan
for
improving
the
road,
because
the
apartments
are
there
emerson
park
is
there
and
it's
a
two-lane
road
but
they're
going
mighty
fast
speed
wise.
I
experienced
keen
road
and
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
traffic
on
keene
road.
Now,
when
you
come
to
keene
road
and
okoye
apopka
road,
it's
dangerous,
because
people
are
turning
left
to
go
toward
a
koi
and
they're
taking
risk.
U
D
F
U
The
intersection
of
old
apopka
road
and
marden
road,
where
it's,
if
you
continue
down
the
road
from
martin,
red
meadow
ridge
or
whatever
it
is
dan
like
you're,
going
to
go
right
toward
bradshaw,
that's
another
dangerous
place,
because
the
turn
is
on
a
very
stiff,
steep
curve.
Those
those
that
whole
area
needs
some
serious
attention.
A
U
A
Q
Commission
meetings
spending
a
lot
of
time
discussing
this
with
orange
county.
We
plan
on
signalizing,
martin,
road
and
ocoee
apopka.
I
just
covered
that
keen
and
ocoee
apopka.
That
will
be
something
that
will
be
signalized
we're
also
right
now.
I'll,
probably
next
meeting
have
more
information
for
you,
but
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
be
able
to
sooner,
as
opposed
to
later
widen
that
segment
of
okoye
pop
road
from
keene
to.
Q
Orange
county
has
relented
since
we're
coming
with
money
they're
coming
with
money
too
they're
going
to
fix
the
storm
water
at
least
that's
the
plan
now
and
we'll
help
with
the
road,
and
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight
five
six
years,
maybe
to
get
the
whole
thing
done,
but
we're
having
developers
fix
what
they
can
right
now.
So
look
forward
to
seeing
some
near-term
improvements.
A
P
V
O
C
O
The
property
is
approximately
two
acres
and
located
just
north
adjacent
of
the
proposed
summer
house
apartments,
the
martin
ridge
track
and
field
final
development
plan
is
the
recreational
component
of
the
proposed
summer
house
apartments.
The
track
and
field
is
gated
and
is
comprised
of
bleachers
restroom
dumpster
facilities.
O
Aluminum
fences
are
placed
along
the
western
eastern
perimeter
and
retaining
walls
are
located
along
the
northern
and
southern
boundaries.
The
access
to
the
site
is
also
located
in
martin.
Road
and
21
parking
spaces
are
provided
landscaping
plans
meet
the
land
development
code
requirements
here
are
the
architectural
elevations
of
the
facilities,
the
drc
recommends
approval
and
a
march
9th
meeting
the
planning
commission
unanimously
recommended
approval
of
the
final
development
plan
recommended
motion
is
to
approve
the
martin
rich
track
and
field.
Preliminary
final
development
plan
again
staff
and
an
applicant
are
available
for
okay.
P
A
D
V
A
W
A
X
X
X
The
appraisal
came
into
475
000,
it
is
one
piece
of
property
and
we
have
rights
to
the
location
of
the
tank,
the
gas
tanks
and
the
in
the
facilities
themselves,
which
are
make
sure
this
is
on
here.
The
fbo
building
is
on
this
site
right
here
and
then
the
tanks
for
the
gas
are
over
here
and
the
pumps
are
right
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
building
itself,
this
the
fuel
fuel
island,
this
the
again
the
eastern
side.
X
X
A
few
of
them
have
a
little
bit
of
extra
information.
There
was
a
couple
that
didn't
have
much
of
any
information,
but
but
they
all
obviously
have
the
best
interest
for
the
airport
in
mind
and
with
that
we're
just
looking
for
city
council
to
review
and
approve
one
of
these,
so
we
can
process
the
sales.
A
G
Yeah,
as
you
know,
mayor
er,
council
and
some
of
you
may
know,
and
for
the
public's
we
purchased
the
airport.
I
don't
know
the
exact
date,
but
we've
had
it
for
a
while.
Now
and
and
we
paid
roughly
about
750
000
back
then
when
we
bought
it,
we
purchased
it.
We
purchased
two
parcels
this
one
that
you
see
before
you
is
one
and
then
there's
another
parcel
that
sits
between
441
and
the
actual
runway.
G
There's
a
parcel
there
that
can't
really
be
used
for
much
of
anything
and
it's
in
a
cleanup
state
right
now
that
we're
working
through
trying
to
to
do
some
cleanup
there
so
that
we're
working
with
the
state
we've
had
some
help
with
the
state
or
whatever,
but
we're
still
going
through
testing
and
stuff
on
that.
So
one
of
the
things
that
over
the
years
you
know
when
we
bought
this,
what
happened?
Was
we
took
on
the
fuel
portion
as
well?
C
G
Had
to
do
renovations,
as
you
know,
you've
approved
you
know
about
right
at
75,
000
worth
of
renovations
to
the
fuel
island,
because
we
had
an
issue,
it's
been
tough,
it's
a
very,
it's
been
tough
for
us.
You
know
not
having
that
expertise.
Also
with
fuel
pricing
competing
with
all
of
the
airports
for
fuel
pricing
is
very,
you
know.
Critical.
We
tried
to
to
do
the
best
we
could
with
the
the
hoa
the
people
that
were
there
to
try
to.
G
You
know,
give
the
best
price
that
we
could
give,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
it.
There's
maintenance,
big
maintenance
piece
out
there.
You
know
the
building
has
maintenance.
The
fuel
island
has
maintenance,
and
so
we've
struggled
over
the
years
again
and
I
think
a
lot
of
it's
just
because
we
don't
have
the
expertise.
We
don't
we
don't.
We
don't
have
staff
to
run
an
fbo.
We
don't
you
know,
we
don't
have
airport
maintenance.
I
I
will
say-
and
I
really
want
to
say
this-
I
think
it's
important.
G
G
That
has
helped
some
of
that
has
helped
with
with
some
of
the
maintenance
and
things
of
that
nature.
But
again
we
don't
have
the
expertise
here
on
the
staff
and-
and
so
I
think,
see
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
dollar-wise,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
that
this
we
struggled
this
fund
is
struggling,
as
you
know,
with
the
repair
and
maintenance
and
and
everything
it
struggled
to
keep
up.
But
I
do
think
we've
done
a
pretty
good
job,
keeping
it
up
to
get
to
this
point.
A
And
one
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
as
soon
as
we
get
the
final
approval
from
dep
that
that's
cleaned
up,
we've
got
an
arrangement
we're
going
to
swap
that
land
for
for
some
additional
parking,
so
they'll
have
they'll,
have
some
dedicated
parking
there
on
site
so
which
would
help
the
the
homeowners
are.
The
the
association
would
own
that
strip,
but
the
fbo
would
get
some
of
that
parking.
That's
there!
A
G
Y
A
E
Z
Z
So,
dear
honorable,
mayor
nelson,
we
understand
that
the
city
will
be
reviewing
bids
that
have
received
in
conjunction
with
its
planned
sale
of
the
fbo-2
property
at
the
airport.
Speaking
on
behalf
of
the
board
of
the
aoaa
orlando
apopka
airport
association,
we'd
like
to
express
our
gratitude
to
the
city
of
apopka
for
its
many
years
of
service
to
the
airport.
During
his
time
as
owner
and
operator
of
the
fbo2
building
and
fuel
system,
the
owners
at
the
airport
have
always
been
able
to
enjoy
a
dependable
and
affordable
source
of
fuel
during
the
city's
watch.
Z
So
back
on
the
letter,
as
you
know,
the
airport,
the
apopka
airport,
is
a
privately
owned
condominium
association
consisting
of
181
separate
parcels
intended
for
hangars,
including
one
parcel
that
is
called
the
fbo2,
the
rest
of
the
airport,
consisting
of
runway
the
taxiways,
the
vehicle
parking
green
spaces.
All
other
pertinences
make
up
the
common
elements
that
are
owned
and
controlled
by
the
parcel
owners
on
a
collective
basis
with
undivided
interest.
Z
Z
This
provides
for
certain
faa
related
benefits,
such
as
instrument
approaches,
assurances
of
tower
height
clearances
and
other
similar
aviation
related
considerations.
Sometimes
this
public
use
election
by
the
airport
group
creates
some
misconception
that
the
airport
board
is
receives
or
may
be
eligible
for
funding
from
federal
state
or
other
public
sources.
Z
However,
this
is
not
the
case
as
all
costs
associated
with
the
maintenance
of
the
airport,
including
modifications
are
born
solely
by
the
181
owners.
Cost
for
the
maintenance
of
the
individual
hangars
is
borne
by
the
individual
property
owners,
and
this
also
applies
to
the
fbo
parcel
as
as
we
heard
a
moment
ago.
Z
Currently,
this
airport
is
slightly
over
50
percent
built
out
and
when
all
hangars
are
completed,
it
will
likely
represent
well
over
100
million
in
property
value.
The
airport
brings
substantial
economic
benefit
to
the
area
resulting
from
the
unemployment.
The
euro
also
brings
substantial
benefit
to
the
area
resulting
from
the
employment
relating
to
the
airport.
All
the
stakeholders
have
an
interest
in
seeing
the
successful
completion
of
the
airport
development
and
its
continuing
prosperity.
Z
Z
AA
AB
Hi,
my
name
is
greg
kelso
and
my
address
is
1321
apopka
airport
road
to
hangar
number
nine
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
city
council
members.
I'm
pleased
to
begin
the
introduction
of
the
xo4
united
llc
and
our
simple,
reasonable
and
achievable
plans
for
success
of
the
orlando
apopka
airport
now
and
in
perpetuity
as
you're
all
aware,
the
city
of
apopka
does
not
own
the
orlando
apopka
airport.
Only
two
lots.
AB
AB
AB
We
are
currently
comprised
of
one
current
and
six
previous
orlando
apopka
association
board
members,
along
with
the
airport
manager.
Our
charter
is
simple
in
support
of
our
181
owners,
tenants,
guests
and
the
flying
public.
We
are
steadfast
in
our
commitment
of
always
having
aviation
fuel
available
at
a
price
that
is
reasonable
compared
to
the
central
florida
average.
AB
AC
This
is
a
matter
where
bids
were
submitted.
There
was
a
deadline
for
the
middle
of
the
bids
and
this
becomes
additional
information
outside
which
may
may
present
issues
for
other
bidders.
So
at
this
point,
if
we
are,
if
these
are
bidders
who
are
lobbying
for
the
bid
to
be
accepted,
I
need
I
need
to
advise
the
council
to
stop
the
presentations
in
order
for
fairness
for
all
for
all
the
bidders.
Okay.
This
matters
on
an
action
item.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
public
hearing
as
part
of
the
sale.
AC
AC
I
would
advise
to
disclose
if
you've
had
previous
meetings
with
the
with
the
bidders
at
this
point
again,
because
it
still
falls
outside
of
the
procurement
rules,
and
there
are
no.
The
city
has
discretion.
I
think
I
would
advise
that
you
disclose
what
bidders
you
have
met
with
any
ex
parte
communications
with
any
of
the
bidders.
E
E
I
actually
and
from
what
I
understand
when
the
bids
came
in,
that
they
were
advised
if
they
wanted
to
speak
to
the
commissioners,
they
were
to
reach
out
to
us,
which
two
of
them
did,
and
I
did
spend
time
with
two
of
them.
First
one
was
first
landings
aviation
and
the
second
one
was
the
present
x04
united
llc,
and
those
were
the
only
two
that
did
reach
out
to
us.
A
E
E
What
our
part
was
how
important
the
fbo
and
the
fuel
pump
was
to
them.
So
you
know
I
walked
away
much
more
educated
and
understand
what
I
feel
is-
and
this
is
my
opinion-
is
that
the
shareholders
who
have
invested
thousands
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
and
have
been
operating
the
airport-
I
just
till-
even
as
I
sit
here
right
now-
how
we,
the
city,
owned
the
heart
of
the
airport,
and
so
I
for
me.
E
E
I
just
felt
that
their
tenants
and
that
exo
has
really
said
to
me
that
they
want
to
keep
them
and
they
want
to
work
with
first
landings.
They
appreciate
they
actually
welcome
the
service
that
they
have.
So
this
is
my
part.
As
far
as
the
bid
is
concerned,
you
have
180
shareholders
and
they
own
that
airport,
and
I
just
feel
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
that
they
own
their
fbo
and
the
fuel
pumps.
P
C
P
The
most
important
and
again
we
do
represent
these
holdings
as
the
city
of
apopka
for
the
citizens
of
apopka.
So
what
is
going
to
be
the
best
all
around
those
who
invested
their
lives
and
livelihoods
as
we
make
decisions
for
neighborhoods,
we
look
at
those
who
have
invested
their
lives
and
livelihoods
there,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
those
concerns
are
are
protected.
P
Number
one
is
the
fbo
services
and
I
think,
that's
really
important,
because
that's
our
front
door
as
far
as
a
city
when
people
come
by
air
and
and
many
businesses
and
hopefully
more
business
relationships
built
there,
that's
our
front
door.
So
it
needs
to
be
something
that's
presentable
and
something
that
is
inviting
and,
I
think
for
all
of
the
pilots.
P
But
one
of
the
things
that
really
stuck
out.
As
I
looked
at
all
of
the
packages.
This
is
the
scholastic
opportunities
and
that's
something
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
As
we
see
young
people
there's
a
great
need
and
a
great
opportunity
in
the
aviation
field
both
for
pilots
and
for
mechanics
and
right.
P
Now,
as
I
see
that
I
see
the
school
really
standing
out
in
that
aspect,
because
it's
a
tremendous
future
there's
already
partnership-
and
this
is
where
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
first
landings-
and
what's
already
been
done-
you
know-
I
look
at
many
of
the
visions,
but
it's
like
is
this
something?
That's
that
there's
already
work
being
done
on
this,
or
is
this
something
that
is
vision,
but
is
there
a
path
to
make
that
happen?
P
And
that
really
spoke
to
me
there's
already
connection
there:
scholarships
available
with
hodges
university
and
direct
partnership
with
apopka
high
school
other
high
schools.
This
is
a
huge
inroad
that
will
help
serve
the
long-term
purpose,
because
if
our
community
loves
aviation
as
the
the
airport
does,
then
we
will
protect
it
as
well.
P
Third
was
job
creation
and
again
I
looked
at
the
different
proposals
there
and
I
mean
I
honestly
have
to
say
first
landings
with
the
vickers
project.
This
was
huge
and
I
don't
know
how
much
you
all
were
able
to
look
into
that,
but
there's
a
huge
potential
there
and
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
that's
why
I
was
hoping
maybe
to
be
able
to
have
everybody
present.
So
I
could
hear
everybody's
focus
on
all
these
things.
But
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
we
will
be
the
u.s
manufacturer.
P
So
it
goes
beyond
what
just
happens
here,
but
in
manufacturing
and
there's
already
a
letter
of
intent,
so
that
to
me
says
it's
more
than
just
a
desire
and
vision,
but
there's
already
a
foot
in
the
door
in
real
opportunity.
So
that
weighed
heavy
for
me,
probably
the
key
issue
is
the
fuel
and
to
make
sure
that
that
is
kept
at
an
affordable
level,
but
also
it
has
to
be
sustainable.
So
whoever
gets
that
bid.
P
P
Again,
the
future
benefits
to
the
city.
We
have
you're
very
correct
there.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
protect
the
long-term
investment
of
all
of
the
aviators
that
are
there,
which
I
would
love
to
be
one
day
as
well,
but
we
have
something
very
unique
here
in
apopka
and
this
is
an
event
individual
ownership.
It's
it's
not
much
like
that.
This
is
a
private
owned
airport
that
has
public
access
and
so
that
which
protects
the
private
ownership.
P
W
B
Mayor
into
the
public
and
in
addition
to
having
met
with
exo,
united
and
with
first
landings,
I
also
need
to
disclose
that
I've
also
had
a
relationship
with
the
airport
and
the
fact
that
I
also
have
a
group
of
young
men
between
the
ages
of
8
and
18
that
we
mentor
that
we
have
taken
to
the
airport
on
several
occasions
where
they
have
grown
up
with
the
pilots
and
actually
flown
and
been
given
some
demonstrations
as
to
how
to
maintain
aircrafts
and
and
in
building
aircrafts
as
well.
And
so
over.
B
B
As
a
former
educator,
I
also
saw
the
advantages
of
what
first
landing
is
doing
in
the
direction
they're
going
and
looking
at
where
we
are
today
that
there's
going
to
be
a
great
need
for
individuals
in
that
particular
industry,
whether
that
be
pilots
or
whether
it
be
aircraft
mechanics
to
maintain
and
do
what
we're
doing.
But,
but
also
when
we
look
at
exo
united
and
there
are
property
owners
there
at
the
the
airport.
Also
has
a
great
deal
of
merit
as
well,
and
so
I
I
see
merit
in
both
proposals.
F
Yeah,
so
I
mean
when
I
approach
something
like
this:
you
have
to
understand.
You
know
what
what
are
they
trying
to
accomplish?
I
think
every
applicant
has
come
forth
with
the
same
kind
of
guiding
principles
about
what
they
want
to
do
with
the
property.
They
want
to
have
a
good,
sound,
fbo
location
that
can
service
people
that
come
in
and
out
of
the
airport,
and
they
want
to
have
fuel
sales
that
are
competitive
that
attracts
people
to
come
to
that
airport.
F
With
that
said,
you
know
and
again
to
commissioner
smith's
point.
I
think
both
in-person
discussions
I
had
were
very
good
for
me
and,
in
terms
of
I
came
away
with
it
being
kind
of
renewed
and
excited
about
the
potential
that
our
airport
does
does
have,
and
I
can
respect
people
that
are
in
ownership
positions
at
the
airport,
but
all
the
businesses
that
did
put
bids
or
a
few
of
the
businesses
that
I
met
are
already
there
and
they're
just
trying
to
expand
their
operations.
So
it's
not
like.
F
F
It
was
not
just
their
vision
for
what
you
know
the
fbo.
I
think
there
were
some
certain
improvements
that
they
wanted
to
do
to
the
fbo
office,
but
it
was
the
certifications
that
they
currently
have.
It
was
the
educational
opportunities
that
they're
able
to
provide
for
our
our
residents,
as
well
as
non-residents,
to
attract
people
to
come
to
the
city
of
apopka,
and
these
are
these
are
jobs
that
are
in
high
demand
and
high
salary
jobs.
These
are
mechanic
jobs.
F
These
are
pilots
licensed
jobs
that
you
know,
pilots
going
directly
into
jobs
once
they
get
their
certification,
complete,
just
the
economic
benefit
of
having
opportunities
like
that
within
apopka,
not
to
mention
you
know
what
commissioner
banks
was
saying
around
some
of
their
partnerships
with
vickers
other
school
options
that
they
have.
It
just
really
was
a
very
exciting
conversation
that
I
had
with
them.
F
So
again,
there
was
a
lot
of
close
conversation
and
when
reviewing
some
of
the
proposals
that
I
saw,
but
you
know
from
a
business
case
perspective
from
their
articulation
of
their
road
map
to
really
what
they
want
to
do
with
their
spot
within
our
airport.
I
thought
it
was
a
that's
where
I'm
leaning
towards
yeah
yeah.
A
And
I'll
kind
of
agree
kind
of
with
commissioner
becker
and
with
bankston
is
that
the
vision
that
that
first
landing
brought
to
my
my
meeting
was
it's
like
wow.
If
we
can
pull
off
half
that
that
we've
really
got
an
economic
driver
which
we've
never
had
it's
it's,
we
built
we
built
hangars
out
there,
we've
got.
You
know,
facilities
out
there,
but
it's
it's
been
just
a
gas.
The
fuel
depot
is
really
what
it's
been,
and
so
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
with
with
some
of
the
vision
that
first
landing
has
and.
F
Adam,
can
I
make
one
more
comment
and
in
all
fairness
to
so
and
we
talked
about
you
know
what
the
fbo
needs
to
look
like
right,
and
I
know
that
dnj,
I
think,
was
the
only
applicant
that
kind
of
gave
what
they
envisioned
that
to
be,
and
so,
regardless
of
the
decision
that's
made,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity,
obviously
for
some
partnership,
regardless
of
who
owns
it.
It's
it's
thought,
partnership
that
you
have
all
of
those
vested
interests.
F
P
Well,
just
to
add
my
my
big
concern,
I
asked
the
different
ones
that
came
in.
What
are
your
concerns?
If
you
don't
get
it,
and
one
of
the
concerns
was
that
the
fuel
is
made
accessible
and
affordable
for
all
and
all
of
the
applicants.
When
I
ask
them,
are
you
willing
to
do
those
things
all
seem
to
say
the
same
thing?
So
you
know,
of
course,
you're
always
going
to
put
your
best
foot
forward
when
you're
trying
to
to
make
your
case,
but
that's
something
that
that's
got
to
be.
P
There
has
to
be
a
partnership.
There
has
to
be
a
working
together
because
we
have
people
who
do
have
long-term
investment
and
again,
as
I
talked
with
in
in
the
same
with
d
and
j,
they
they
expressed
that
same
willingness
and
a
real
desire
to
work
with
all
regardless
of
where
this
went.
We
did
talk
about
the
concern
for
the
building
being
able
to
go
up
higher
and-
and
you
know
the
question
of
that,
that
there
is
a
possibility.
P
They
said
with
the
fa
faa,
but
we
just
don't
have
any
promise
of
that
and
it
it's
something
that
could
happen.
They
discuss
maybe
some
other
areas
where
that
could
still
happen,
so
I
think,
having
a
a
restaurant
there
that
you
know
that's
a
really
great
effort
and
we
need
to
continue
to
continue
to
encourage
that.
You
know
in
the
development
around
the
airport
bottom
line.
We
need
to
protect
the
long-term
ability
for
that
airport
to
exist
and
never
be
infringed
upon,
and
so
I
would
say
to
whoever
gets
this
bid.
P
Please
make
sure
that
you're,
the
best
of
neighbors,
because
all
the
people
here
their
lives
are
invested
in
this,
and
you
know,
as
you
do,
that
I
think
it'll
all
just
really
work
together
and
we
can
all
be
proud
of
of
what
the
apopka
airport
is.
So
I
feel
like
we're
handing
back
to
you
something
and
releasing
that,
but
we
really
trust,
I
think,
all
of
the
applicants
that
you
will
do
what's
best
for
not
just
the
airport
itself,
but
for
the
city
of
apopka.
P
A
C
E
E
So
if
first
landings
gets
it
they're
now
going
to
be
a
shareholder
and
they're
definitely
going
to
bring
a
lot
to
the
game
if
the
association
gets
it,
you
know
you
have
to
consider
the
service
that
first
first
landings
is
bringing
to
the
airport.
So
I
just
hope
that
all
yours
can
get
together
and
say:
how
are
we
going
to
make
this?
How
are
we
going
to
move
forward
and
make
it
continue
to
make
it
successful.
P
P
So
that's
exciting
opportunities,
and
that's
I'm
putting
my
confidence
in
your
your
words
to
me
as
well
that
if,
if
that
is
the
will
of
the
council,
that
it
will
be
something
that
is
not
oh,
we
we
have
it
now
forget
everybody
else,
but
it's
like
no
we're
a
community
and
it
is
an
inviting
feel
and
opportunity.
I
know
that
you've
already
done
that
in
that
sense
that
people
have
meetings
there,
but
but
it
it.
You
understand
what
I'm
saying.
In
that
sense,
it
needs
to
not
just
be
hey.
P
F
With
your
eyes,
first
right
and
if
you're
first
landings,
if
they
end
up
getting
the
bid,
I
mean
you're,
you're,
you're,
doing
classwork
you're,
doing
certification,
you're
doing
mechanic,
training
you're
doing
you
know
with
their
operations
that
they
put
in
within
their
bid
they're
going
to
be
the
the
sole
provider
of
these
vicars
aircraft.
That
people
come
to
pick
these
things
up
so
the
face
the
face
of
the
airport
needs
to
be
that
fbo,
and
I
mean
I
see
them
nodding
their
head
in
the
audience.
B
That's
at
the
airport,
because
the
fuel
costs
becomes
outrageous
and
becomes
the
driving
mechanism
for
making
a
profit
and
then
you're
going
to
drive
all
your
pilots
away.
You're
not
going
to
sell
in
fuel
anyway
they're
going
to
go
elsewhere
and
then
we're
not
going
to
receive
the
kind
of
benefit
that
we're
looking
to
receive
from
the
airport.
A
And
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
would
just
take
it
one
step
further
and,
as
commissioner
banks
and
talked
about
the
numbers,
the
the
kind
of
their
economic
forecast,
this
we're
talking
about
first
landing
is
gas
sales
fuel
cells
are
a
minor
part.
That's
not
even
a
you
know
a
rounding
error
of
some
of
the
things
that
they
could
accomplish
if
they
were
to
take
it
on.
So
I
think
why
why
make
somebody
mad?
If
it's
not
even
a
it's,
not
a
big,
you
know.
A
So,
if
you
double
the
price
of
fuel,
it's
still
not
going
to
make
a
difference
in
their
bottom
line.
So
I
think
they'd
have
every
reason
to
be
partners
with
the
group,
the
181.
You
know
members
out
there,
so
I
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
us
not
only
from
a
from
a
educational
point
of
view,
but
also
from
an
economic
point
of
view.
So
with
that
commissioner
banks,
I'm
going
to,
let
you
make
a
motion.
A
N
AA
N
D
A
Tell
you
what
before
he
comes
forward,
let
me
just
go
ahead
and
recognize.
We've
got
the
ninth
grade
class
here
today
from
apopka
christian
academy,
with
the
teacher
miss
melissa
cerrone.
Could
you
stand
up,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
so
thank
you.
Thanks
for
coming
out
and
being
a
part
of
our
city
commission
meeting.
X
X
AD
AD
This
site
uniquely
fits
a
little
higher
density
because
a
portion
of
the
site,
approximately
six
acres,
is
lake
and
the
site
location
here.
Just
for
ease
of
reference
is
in
close
proximity
to
the
seven
story:
admin
health
hospital
up
against
the
429,
with
a
future
grocery
anchored
shopping
center,
planned
on
the
other
side
of
okohipka
road,
the
the
pro,
despite
having
a
little
higher
density,
we
are
maintaining
no
more
than
four-story
building
height,
which
is
customary
in
the
city
of
apopka,
including
the
martin
ridge
project
that
was
approved
earlier
today.
AD
So
when
we
came
before
council
last
time,
we
noted
two
concerns
of
council.
One
was
the
road
which
I
you
know
we
heard
raised
earlier
today's
meeting
and
also
the
schools
with
respect
to
the
roads.
I
want
to
assure
the
council
that
we
are
committed
to
working
with
the
city
to
widen
apocoe
apopka
road
with
in
in
in
cooperation
with
the
shopping
center
developer.
AD
That
is,
you
know,
really
in
their
full
engineering
working
on
their
engineering,
drawings
now
and
we'll
be
coming
into
the
city.
For
that
we've
been
in
dialogue
with
pam
about
that.
We
understand
that
the
county
is
talking
to
the
city
about
possibly
four
lanes
instead
of
three
lanes.
We
are
willing
to
cooperate
with
the
city
on
making
that
happen.
AD
AD
So
we
will
come
back
before
this
council
for
a
pd
hearing,
two
two
pd
hearings
and
then
a
major
development
plan.
Hearing
so
there'll
be
lots
of
opportunities
for
us
to
talk
to
you
about
project
specifics,
and
I
expect
that
you
probably
won't
formally
adopt
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment
until
you're
satisfied
with
the
pd
and
we're
okay
with
that.
AD
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
the
city
council
to
approve
the
concept
of
the
project
for
the
purposes
of
the
growth
management
plan,
so
they
can
be
transmitted
to
the
state
and
then
we
plan
to
and
actually
prior
to
the
last
public
hearing
had
already
submitted
a
pd
application
and
we
want
to
move
forward
with
that
quickly.
So
we
hope
to
be
in
front
of
you
in
another
45
days,
60
days
with
a
specific
plan
where
we
can
talk
about
specifics.
AD
AD
What
I
wanted
to
point
out,
you'll
see
I
just
popped
a
little
blue
arrow
up
there
on
the
skate
on
the
table.
The
current
utilization
of
wheatley
elementary
is
74
percent,
so
what's
causing
the
school
to
trip
capacity
is
so
there's
203
available
seats
what's
causing
the
school
to
show,
as
over
capacity
is
encumber
capacity
where
developers
have
come
in
and
paid
a
fee
to
reserve
capacity
and
in
our
case,
there's
five
schools
reserving
capacity
in
wheatley
elementary
five
projects.
AD
Excuse
me,
you
have
summer
house
at
lake
apopka,
which
you
all
just
approved,
residences
at
emerson
park,
oak
point
and
oak
point
north.
You
also
have
sentosa
east
shore,
which
is
holding
49.47
seats
upon
further
research.
This
is
the
same
site
where
there's
a
grocery
anchor
shopping
center
coming
in
to
the
city
for
construction,
so
that
and
in
fact,
we've
upon
further
research.
AD
So
if
you
take
that
into
consideration,
there
actually
is
capacity
for
our
project
as
it
stands
today,
when
we
as
we
go
through
and
we
have
to
go
and
get
concurrency
in
connection
with
our
actual
development
plan.
That's
when
the
school
board
will
take
a
closer
look
at
surrounding
zones
and
will
give
us
the
opportunity
to
reserve
capacity
for
our
project.
So
at
this
stage
it's
just
this
whole
capacity.
Analysis
is
just
to
give
you
all
an
idea
of
where
seats
sit
today.
AD
I
talked
to
orange
county
school,
a
representative
of
the
orange
county
school
board
about
this
project
and
building
schools,
and
I
said
at
what
point:
do
you
build
a
new
school
because
I
know
that's
a
concern.
She
says
they
won't
build
a
school
until
there's
enough
overcrowding
to
fill
a
new
school.
AD
They
don't
want
to
build
a
new
school
when
it's
at
110
percent.
They
want
to
build.
They
want
to
rezone
things
and
make
sure
as
soon
as
they
build
a
new
school,
they
can
fill
it
up,
and
so
I
would
also
suggest
to
you
that
allowing
our
project
to
move
forward
helps
add,
you
know,
gets
the
city
closer
to
adding
more
schools
in
the
city
limits
that'll
serve
the
residents
well,
and
I
wanted
to
add
in
the
event
that
there
was
any
concern
about
the
quality
of
the
project
or
the
credentials
of
the
developer.
AD
AD
It's
a
very
pretty
project.
We
think
of
we
think
it's
a
project
that
we'd
like
to
see
modeled
on
our
project
here
in
apopka
because
of
our
lake
frontage,
and
so
we
just
as
you
can
see
in
this
photo
with
the
pool
and
the
clubhouse
oriented
towards
the
lake,
we
would
like
to
capitalize
on
the
natural
amenities
that
our
site
has
by
doing
the
same.
We're
also
really
excited
about
the
apopka
lake
trail
and
the
proximity
to
it
and
would
plan
to
market
that
as
an
amenity
for
the
property.
AD
We
think
this
project's
location
to
the
hospital
will
serve
the
hospital
well
and
it'll
serve
the
residents
well
with
the
shopping
center.
That's
coming
forward
and
access
to
the
different
expressways.
So
we're
really
excited
about
the
project.
We
know
there's
a
lot
of
questions
still
to
be
answered
and
we
will
give
you
all
the
answers.
AD
F
Applicant
mine's
more,
I
don't
know
if
it's
applicant
related
or
staff
related
at
this
point,
so
I
I
I
can
you
know.
Obviously
we
didn't
have
this
presentation
the
first
time
y'all.
So
thank
you
for
putting
together
a
more
formal
presentation.
This
is
helpful.
You
know
I
get
behind
this.
The
school
capacity
issue
I
mean
on
both
fronts.
It's
kind
of
perverse
incentive
right.
You
have.
F
It
makes
kind
of
it's
counter-intuitive
to
reasonable
thought,
but
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
the
roadway,
I
know
that
you
said
that,
in
terms
of
the
pd
that
there
might
be
language
around
the
widening
of
of
okay
apopka
and
then
you
know
potential
signalization
with
keene
road
and
okay
apopka,
both
things
that
ms
page
talked
to
when
she
got
up
and
spoke
before,
how
do
you?
How
do
we
get
reassurances
that
that's
going
to
get
accelerated
for
this
project
versus
you
all?
F
Just
pay
the
normal
impact
fees
and
it
gets
scheduled
in
the
normal
course
of
us
doing
our
thing
like
where,
where
are
the
assurances
that
the
road
will
be
widened
and
signalization
will
occur
because,
if
you're,
if
you're,
basing
that
on
the
fact
that
you
know
the
shopping
center
comes
in
public,
whoever
that
might
be
you,
you
would
work
in
concert.
We
don't.
We
don't
understand
the
timing
of
that
that
hasn't
come
before
us
as
a
business.
Yet
so.
D
A
Q
It'll
be
in
the
front,
because
the
signal
that
we've
discussed
them
actually
doing
the
work
they
will
design
it
and
install
it
for
impact
fee
credits,
and
they
can't
go
forward
until
until
they
pay
their
impact
fee
credits,
so
we'll
have
to
see
something
from
them
before
they
could
get
a
co
for
anything
which
means
either
we're
going
to
have
the
design
and
a
bond
in
place.
That
says
that
they're
going
to
install
the
signal.
Q
D
Q
F
F
That
developer
decides.
You
know
what
I'm
not.
I
have
no
interest
in
coming
here
any
longer.
Yes,
the
applicant
has
paid
impact
fees,
whatever
the
case
might
be.
Okay,
apopka
stays
the
same
condition
that's
in
today
and
there's
no
civilization
at
keem.
Yet
the
applicant
has
the
density
that
they
so
require
and
then
we're
we're
coming
back
and
saying:
hey
well,
wait
a
second!
F
This
was
our
expectation.
We
approved
this
density,
but
now
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you
and
say:
well,
why
isn't
this
road
widened
or
why
don't
we
have
the
signal
at
keen?
That's
that's!
I
just
want
assurances
that
what
I'm
being
told
actually
comes
to
fruition
in
an
accelerated
fashion,
because
I
mean
and
correct
me
if
I'm
hearing
it
wrong.
F
Q
I
would
be
better
able
to
answer
that
question
tomorrow.
After
we
have
the
meeting
with
the
other
developer,
I
I
maybe
I'm
too
optimistic.
I
choose
to
think
that
we're
putting
everything
in
place
to
make
sure
this
happens.
I
can't
stand
here
and
tell
you
that
something
catastrophic
might
happen
that
turns
the
plan
upside
down,
but
if
we
do
everything
the
way
we're
supposed
to
which
is
to
get
the
agreements
in
place
and
and
tie
their
development
to
these
roadway
improvements,
we've
been
successful
in
doing
this
before
I
really.
F
F
F
If
I
can
secure
that
acceleration
of
road
widening
the
road
because
it
becomes
a
more
safer
road
and
we
can
get
signalization
at
keene
and
okay
apopka
through
this
venture
and
it's
in
black
and
white
text.
For
that
we
can
all
point
to
and
say
this
is
what
we
approved
you
can.
You
can
win
me
over,
but
if
I
can't
get
that
assurance,
then
it's
you
know.
Let's
just
move
on
and
I'll
yield.
A
X
Yeah,
it
does
give
us
a
little
bit
of
breathing
room
in
addition,
this
project,
because
of
the
the
nature
the
way
we
did,
the
potential
increase
up
to
25
million
per
per
acre.
As
tad
mentioned,
it
is
required
to
do
it
in
actual
pd
plan
development,
which
we
can
put
in
a
lot
of
stipulations
and
requirements.
As
part
of
that
approval,
we
do
have
time.
A
X
But
with
the
with
the
transmittal
basically
get,
if,
if
you
approve
the
transmittal,
we
would
send
that
up
to
tallahassee
within
the
next
two
weeks,
they've
got
a
30
to
30
to
40
30
day
review
period.
That
comes
back.
We
have
to
adopt
that
or
make
action
within
180
days.
So
that's
we're
looking
at
half
a
year
right
there.
Usually
we
don't.
We
try
to
get
these
things
done
a
little
bit
faster,
but
in
between
that
timeline
again
we'll
be
working
on
the
the
development
itself.
X
He's
got
some
pictures
here
that
we
hadn't
seen
yet,
so
we
get
a
little
bit
better
feel
for
what
the
what
the
product
could
occur
on
the
site
itself.
The
plan
development
itself
that's
going
to
take
probably
I'm
guessing
four
to
six
months
or
so
to
process.
During
that
time
you
know:
that's
where
we
put
the
the
site
plan
together.
X
Overall,
the
whole
development
could
take
could
start
within
about
a
year
and
during
that
timeline,
of
course,
we're
also
going
to
be
working
with
the
property
owner
to
the
east,
which
we
have
we've
seen
about
three
different
sets
of
plans.
The
latest
just
came
in
yesterday
and
we
are
meeting
with
them
tomorrow
to
talk
about
those
plans
I
mean
like
it
was,
as
was
mentioned,
it's
a
grocer
and
a
few
out
parcels,
but
so
we've
got.
X
E
X
X
Oh,
regarding
the
density
itself,
we
had
we
had
four
four
areas
that
we
had
in
apopka
that
we
were
looking
to
increase
the
density
up
to
25
million
units
based
on
where
it
was
located
and
we
thought
the
boom
would
occur.
The
first
one
was
already
done
with
with
the
form
based
code
area.
The
second
one
was
over
at
the
city
center.
We
had
an
applicant
that
was
interested
in
doing
25
millions
per
acre.
We
did
have
an
outcry
from
the
developer
from
the
neighborhood.
X
X
X
X
If
the
land
use
is
your
your,
your
big
motivator
in
regards
to
what
the
density
can
be,
if
it's
approved
at
25
per
acre,
then
the
people
would
have
the
right
to
come
in
and
develop
it
at
up
to
25
million
per
acre
the
pd.
Of
course,
you
know
we
can
always
put
stipulations
requirements
on
that,
but
again
they
have
the
right
at
that
point,
to
do.
25.
AD
E
AD
So
if
you
know
at
310
units
we're
at
18.9
units
per
gross
acre
and
well,
no
yeah
18.9
units
per
upland,
acre
14.5
units
per
gross
acre,
okay,
so
we're
not
trying
to
max
it
out
at
370.
and
again,
as
I
said
in
my
presentation,
we're
very
comfortable
with
the
city
council
waiting
to
formally
adopt
the
land
use
until
you
have
a
pd
you're
satisfied
with
so
if
they
get
approved
together,
then
you
know
that
they're
they're,
you
know
you've
locked
in
that
density.
E
D
F
B
For
two
years
you
know
I've
been
talking
about
four
laning
of
paw
patrol
court,
road
and-
and
so
I
I
like
the
idea
that
they're
willing
to
assist
us
in
doing
that,
but
just
as
he
indicated
earlier
that
a
previous,
proper
owner
that
had
reserved
some
space
there
to
develop
has
now
backed
out
of
the
or
whatever.
So
what
happens?
If
now,
this
developer,
that's
going
to
be
his
neighbor
backs
out,
that's
going
to
be
doing
this
project
together
and
we
don't
end
up
with
the
the
following
the
traffic
signal.
I
mean
what
I
guess.
X
Again
that
that
ends
up
going
in
with
the
with
the
plan
development
itself,
we
can
put
different
stipulations
that
if
such
and
such
doesn't
occur,
then
this
person
is
responsible
for
it
again.
The
big.
The
big
item
is,
is
orange
county
as
to
how
cooperative
they
are
going
to
be
with
the
ko
apopka
road.
A
Yeah,
because
one
of
the
things
I
know
pam
we're
working
on
is
that
the
road
is
substandard,
in
that
we
don't
have
any
storm
water,
which
is
should
have
been
orange,
county's
problem
right.
So
now
that
we're
we're
looking
at
those
road
improvements,
we
we
want
to
go
to
the
county
and
said:
okay,
we'll
take
the
road
over,
but
you
know
here's
the
things
that
that
aren't
up
the
standards
that
you
need
to
do.
A
A
Q
They're
they
know
that
we're
serious
we're
coming
with
money.
We've
committed
all
of
our
impact
fee
money
from
this
area
to
that
project.
They
want
that
what
they
want
to
and
they're
going
to
participate.
I
know
what
y'all
were
all
told
and
it's
been
a
a
struggle
to
get
them
to
change
their
mind,
but
we
have
full
staff
support
and
we're
working
through
some
some
things
they
get,
that
it
needs
to
be
done,
and-
and
so
it
will.
B
X
B
P
Sure
yeah
to
me,
the
long
game
is
the
road
and
that's
what
we're
all
after,
and
that
was
the
thing.
The
thing
that
moved
the
needle
for
me
was
pam's
presentation.
Last
time
that
I
saw
this
is
a
key
point.
It
just
gets
us
in
field
goal
range
and,
as
you
said,
this
is
now
bringing
the
other
players
to
the
table
to
me.
If
we
don't.
This
is
another
time
where
we
turn
the
ball
back
over
and
have
to
wait
for
the
next
time
around
and
it's
making
that
road
further
off.
P
My
big
concern
was
the
school
issue
and
you
did
address
that
again.
That's
that
shell
game
and
it
is
frustrating,
but
I
understand
the
other
side
of
that
because
of
fiscal
responsibilities.
They
can't
build
schools
that
are
empty
either,
so
we're
just
caught
in
that
there's
nothing
more.
We
can
do
there
and
my
my
one
question
is:
you
know:
we've
talked
about
and
we
really
don't
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what
produces
enough
revenue
that
it
covers
the
level
of
service.
P
How
does
that
affect
us
when
there's
multi-unit,
because
if
we
have
individual
homes
again,
we've
asked
if
you
can
come
up
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
home
now
covers
their
level
of
service.
We
don't
know
how
to
get
to
that
number.
How
is
that
when
it
comes
to
multi-unit
homes
or
multi-unit
complexes.
C
AE
To
have
the
the
pleasure
of
representing
several
multi-family
developers
and
when
we
look
at
the
ad
valorem
taxes
that
go
to
the
municipalities,
when
you
have
a
multi-family
development
like
this,
it
is
taxed
on
a
as
a
commercial
development.
So,
unlike
when
you
do
a
subdivision
and
those
homes
are
then
homesteaded
and
their
taxes
are
limited.
AE
A
AE
Well
and
and
then
you're
also
correct
that,
unlike
if
you're
doing
a
subdivision,
the
the
per
unit
number
since
we're
paying
transportation
impact
fees
on
this,
you
know
smaller,
you
know
16
acres
of
developable
land,
but
if
we're
building
310
units
on
that,
you
are
getting
a
much
higher
amount
and
impact
fees
and
that's
what
all
of
your
studies
have
been
based
on
and
certainly
the
school
board
just
did
the
same
thing.
They
just
raised
those
school
impact
fees
to
make
sure
we're
covering
that
that
difference.
P
The
hospital
come
in
we're
expecting
more
business.
That
will
support
that
this
can
be
housing
for
those
professionals
as
well,
and
so
I
really
think
it
it
moves
the
needle
for
me
knowing
that.
That's
getting
us
closer
to
getting
that
road,
and
we
all
need
that
again.
Commissioner
smith,
that's
been
something
you've
been
calling
for,
and
I
think
it
moves
us
closer.
A
B
A
A
X
Any
issues
yeah,
but
good,
one
of
the
things
the
this
slide,
that's
up
with
the
sentosa
east
shore
that
has
the
reserve
of
the
49
seats.
Basically,
they
were
showing
that
they
were
short
30
seats,
so
that
this
would
do
that.
The
only
the
only
problem
is
that,
when
this
comes
back
from
from
deo
for
review
orange
county
public
schools
could
come
here
and
object,
because
it's
still
going
to
show
that
it's
over
capacity.
X
E
X
E
X
E
X
X
X
X
T
A
D
E
X
X
They
they
do
look
at
what's
going
in
around
the
area
and
if
they
see
that
there's
a
an
apartment
complex
on
the
north
south
east
west,
wherever
it
is,
but
it's
closer
closer
located
along
with
some
of
the
single
family
developments
that
are
occurring
like
along
binyan
road,
they
look
at
those
and
it
does
excel
their
their
needs
to
to
develop.
That's
the
same
thing
that
happened
with
the
publics
up
on
kelly
park,
even
though
they
knew
that
there
wasn't
really
anything
when
they
started
the
process.
They
were
originally
telling
us
five
six
seven.
X
X
Well,
we'll
know
a
little
bit
more
when
we
meet
with
them
tomorrow,
because
it's
part
of
the
overall
development
is
the
the
commercial
portion
and
then
we'll
see
how
much
interest
or
whether
or
not
they've
got
anything
else.
That's
actually
going
on
that
north
side.
They
got
the
density
or
the
the
the
the
seats,
but
they
don't
we
haven't.
We
don't
have
any
site
plans
or
anything
for
it.
A
E
V
E
X
F
Yeah
on
that,
on
that
front
I
think
it's
and
we
saw
that
with
the
hamrick
property
discussion
too
right.
You
know
they
came
out
and
spoke
aggressively
against
the
action
that
we
were
taking,
but
we've
made
a
common
sense
approach,
absent
the
safeguards
that
we
typically
had
in
place
prior
to
that
senate
bill
same
thing.
F
C
U
E
T
R
AC
Remember,
members
of
the
council
what
I
was
trying
to
interject
and
just
a
reminder:
comprehensive
plan
amendments
are
legislative
decisions,
so
there
it's
actually
okay
for
members
of
the
public
and
the
applicants
to
speak
to
you.
You
do
not
have
to
disclose
that
you've
spoken
to
them.
It's
understood
in
the
legislative
decision
that
you
will
be
speaking
to
constituents
only
in
quasi-judicial,
which
would
be
rezonings
you'd
have
to
disclose,
but
as
it
were,
coming
up
on
other
comp
plan
amendments,
you
don't
have
to
disclose
that
you've
spoken.
AF
AA
AF
AF
The
subject
property
is
located
at
1879
boy
scout
road.
It
was
annexed
into
the
city
limits
on
january
20th
2021.
It
is
a
part
of
a
larger
plan
development
that
is
currently
under
staff
review
and
ocps
has
indicated.
The
capacity
for
the
proposed
development
is
not
available
at
the
elementary
and
high
school
levels
and
is
deficient
at
4.5
seats
at
apopka
elementary
and
3.1
seats
at
apopka,
high
drc
recommends
approval,
staff
recommends
approval
and
staff,
and
the
applicant
are
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
F
So
this
is
a
broad
and
sorry
to
detract
real,
quick,
it's
a
broader
kind
of
so
in
the
last
piece
of
business
right
it
was.
We
had
some
reasoning
and
insight
around
the
school
capacity
issue
and
then,
prior
to
the
senate
bill
from
last
year.
You
know
we
had
those
enhancement
agreements
that
kind
of
gave
us
the
safeguards
and
the
guard
rails
by
which
we
operate
in
so
now
we
start
seeing
these
these
things
that
are
true
like
it
makes
sense.
F
X
X
Capacity,
that
is
de
minimis,
in
other
words,
if
it's
four
or
five
seats,
it's
not
going
to
matter
that
much
especially
when
they
get
to
the
concurrency
payment
stage,
where
they
actually
pay
for
those
seats
that
they're
affecting
that's
the
same
thing
with
this
one
right
now
this
this
will
allow
us
to
do
that
density,
but
they
still
have
to
pay
into
the
system
to
pay
for
those
seats
that
are
that
are
over
capacity.
These
are
minor
ones.
It's
like
three
four
five
seats:
it's
not
a
big
one!
X
It's
it's,
it's
not
a
huge
amount,
but
what
we're
hoping
and
what
I'm
hoping
is
that
if
the
agreement
that
is
being
proposed
to
us
again,
we
haven't
seen
anything-
does
not
have
a
de
minimis
factor
into
it
again.
This
is
what
I've
been
harping
on.
The
county
and
ocps
to
do
is
to
have
a
de
minimis,
and
otherwise
it's
not
going
to
work
for
the
city,
and
I
would
never
ever
recommend
the
city
council
signing
off
on
something
if
it
doesn't
work
for
us
at
all.
Yeah.
F
And
it's
interesting
because
you
know
to
the
credit
of
the
prior
applicant.
I
thought
that
was
a
good
piece
of
insight
for
them
to
bring
to
the
table.
Hey
yeah,
there's
encumbered
49
seats
on
a
developed
piece
of
development.
That's
likely
not
going
to
go
full
residential
and
actually
consume
all
those
49
seats.
X
As
soon
as
you
put
in
the
retention
ponds
and
the
roads
and
things
it
never
gets
developed
at
five
units
per
acre,
it's
usually
about
three
and
a
half
3.75
or
so
so,
there's
already
a
cushion
that's
built
into
this
thing,
even
though
you
know
we're
going
to
five
units
per
acre,
it's
not
going
to
go
five
units
per
acre,
it's
it's
kind
of
like
you
were
mentioning
it's
the
same
as
the
the
past
presentation,
you're,
not
utilizing
all
of
those
units,
no
matter
what
you
do.
Yeah.
A
A
couple
of
things,
one
is
that
you
know
this:
the
minimus
thing
when
you've
got
jurisdictional,
it's
just
crazy.
So
if
you
put
something
in
the
right
spot,
you
could
have
orange
county,
ocoee
and
apopka
having
all
to
approve
the
same
development.
But
one
thing
you
might
want
to
do
jim
to
send
to
the
council.
I
don't
know
if
they've
seen
it
everybody
seen
the
impact
fee
changes
for
the
schools.
A
A
Should
be
more
money
for
school
building,
but
what
was
the
interesting
thing
that
just
kind
of
struck
me
as
is
kind
of
strange,
is
that
when
you
got
above,
I
want
to
say
4,
000
square
foot
house
the
rate
went
down
yep,
don't
tell
me
how
that
happened,
so
they
had
they
had
they
had
tiered
now,
but
because
it
used
to
be
just
a
it's
a
flat
per
single
family
home.
Now
it's
tiered
by
square
footage.
It
goes
up
until
you
get
to
the
top
tier
and
it
goes
down
it.
X
X
P
Okay
and
the
question
I
have
along
those
lines,
too,
is
why,
on
the
attachment
from
orange
county,
they
have
two
scenarios.
One
is
with
apopka
elementary
and
apopka
high,
both
failing,
but
then
the
next
page
it
has
has
it
wheatley
and
wikiva
I
mean
do
they
have
the
opportunity
to
to
send
them
different
places?
Is
that
yeah
or
it's.
N
AG
We
have
residential
low
surrounding
us
by
the
same
property
owner
on
the
north
side
of
boy
scout,
and
then
we
have
the
mixed
use:
designation,
just
south
of
us
also
owned
by
the
same
owner,
so
we're
just
trying
to
bring
the
future
land
use
to
be
consistent
with
the
zoning.
We
are
processing
a
pd
application
for
over
366
acres
with
staff
right
now.
That
would
include
a
transportation
study
that
we
are
working
with
pam's,
because
we
do
understand
the
deficiencies
in
the
area.
What
boy
scout
and
koji
apopka
wrote.
AG
A
A
AH
AH
AH
The
subject
property
has
residential
low,
suburban
future
land
use,
which
is
compatible
with
the
proposed
rce
zoning
and
the
development
review
committee.
Planning
commission
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
rezoning
to
rce
residential
country
state
district,
and
the
recommended
action
for
this
afternoon
is
to
accept
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
2820
and
hold
it
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
on
april
21st
2021.
A
T
D
AA
Ordinance
number
2822
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
amending
the
future
land
use
element
of
the
apopka
comprehensive
plan
of
the
city
of
apopka.
Changing
the
future
land
use,
designation
from
transitional
to
mixed-use
interchange
for
certain
real
property
generally
located
on
state
east
of
state,
road,
429
and
west
of
plymouth.
Sorrento
road
owned
by
klepsig
family
trust,
klepsig,
dennis
r
life
estate
and
klepsid
show
in
life
estate,
comprising
30.81
acres,
more
or
less
providing
for
severability
and
for
an
effective
day.
O
Again,
gene
sanchez
with
the
community
development
department:
this
is
a
request
to
amend
the
future
land
use
of
4140
plymouth,
rental
road
and
two
other
associated
properties
owned
by
the
klepsig
family
properties
are
located:
east
of
state
road,
429,
west
of
plymouth,
sorrento,
road
and
south
of
joey
mcguckin
road.
It's
a
total
of
approximately
30.8
acres
property
is
also
located
within
the
one
mile
radius
of
state
road,
429
and
kelly
park.
O
Road
policy
20.2
the
city's
comprehensive
plan,
a
sire,
any
portion
of
a
site
within
the
one
mile
radius
of
the
interchange
is
subject
to
the
kelly
park.
Interchange
form
based
code
standards,
the
existing
future
land
use
of
the
properties
is
future
land
use
in
progress,
which
indicates
that
at
the
time
the
properties
were
annexed
into
the
city.
No
future
land
use
designation
was
applied.
O
O
O
In
the
meantime,
the
concept
plan
proposal
shows
the
subject
properties
combined
with
four
other
parcels
with
already
established
mixed-use
future
land
use
designations
to
develop
into
a
single-family
residential
subdivision
project.
The
entire
project
site
will
consist
of
about
50
acres
and
it
proposes
175
single-family
lots
just
based
on
the
concept
plan.
Orange
county
public
schools
has
provided
a
report
indicating
that
capacity
for
the
proposed
development
is
not
available
at
the
high
school
level
and
is
deficient
by
15.065
seats.
O
A
A
A
W
A
A
AH
B
N
Thank
you
for
the
record
bobby
howell
planning
manager.
Subject:
properties
are
located
at
3515
and
3081
poncan
road
are
approximately
23.4
acres
in
size.
Total
applicant
is
requesting
a
rezoning
of
the
properties
from
agriculture
to
rsf-1b
to
allow
for
the
development
of
a
46-lot,
single-family
residential
subdivision
minimum
lot
widths
within
the
sub
rs
f1b
are
75
feet.
Minimum
lot
area
of
8
000
square
feet
is
required
and
a
minimum
living
area
of
1600
square
feet
is
required
in
the
zoning
district.
N
The
rs
f1b
zoning
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
areas.
The
surrounding
properties
are
primarily
residential
and
agricultural
in
nature.
Orange
county
public
schools
provided
a
report
that
indicates
capacity
is
not
available
at
the
high
school
level
and
is
deficient
by
4.847
seats,
property
properties
zoned
for
apopka
high.
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval.
The
planning
commission
you
nominate
unanimously
recommends
approval
and
staff
recommends
approval.
Staff
and
the
applicant
are
here
for
questions.
F
F
F
N
A
Okay,
any
other
questions.
Okay,
all
right!
Anybody
from
public
wishes
to
speak
on
this
matter,
not
we'll
close.
The
public
hearing
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2827
at
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
becker
taken
by
commissioner
velazquez.
All
those
in
favor.
B
D
N
Thank
you
for
the
record
bobby
hall
planning
manager.
The
property
is
located
at
810,
south
benion
road
and
is
approximately
30.92
acres
in
size
in
his
own.
Transitional
surrounding
properties
to
the
north
include
residential
single
family,
1b
zone
property
and
rsf-1b
zone
property
to
the
south.
The
surrounding
properties
are
primarily
residential
in
nature.
N
Future
land
use
shows
that
the
primarily
future
land
use
designation
are
low
density,
residential,
the
commercial
piece
that
you
see
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
screen
that
was
approved
for
a
change
to
low-density
residential
at
the
march
17
2021
meeting
pd
master
plan.
Major
development
plan
proposes
a
residential
subdivision
consisting
of
67
lots
at
a
density
of
2.16
dwelling
units
per
acre.
The
pd
calls
for
a
net
density
that
is
approximately
70
percent
less
than
what
is
allowed
under
the
future.
N
Land
use
designation,
which
is
three
and
a
half
dwelling
units
per
acre
lot
sizes
range
from
6
600
square
feet
in
area
to
7
800
square
feet
in
area.
48
of
the
lots
are
55
feet
in
width
and
19
of
the
lots
are
65
feet
in
width.
Minimum
living
area
is
1800
square
feet
is
proposed
within
the
development
65
foot
wide
lots
are
proposed
around
the
outer
perimeter
of
the
subdivision,
while
the
55s
are
located
within
the
interior
of
the
subdivision.
N
The
65s
are
proposed
on
the
outer
perimeter
to
be
consistent
with
clear
lake
landing
subdivision
to
the
north,
where
the
lots
are
75
feet
in
width
just
kind
of
backtrack.
A
little
bit
staff
really
has
worked
with
the
applicant
when
they
first
came
in,
they
proposed
all
50.1
foot
lots,
we
told
them
that
was
not
acceptable,
and
so
we
did
some
negotiations,
and
this
is
what
we've
arrived
at
as
the
slot
size
and
raise
the
building
size.
N
N
3.71
acres
are
reserved
for
recreational
amenities,
which
includes
a
five-foot
wide
pedestrian
trail
that
meanders
and
around
the
internal
portions
of
the
site.
A
tot
lot
a
dog
park
and
a
soccer
field.
12
foot
wide
bike
trail
will
be
dedicated
to
the
city
along
pinion
road
and
will
ultimately
hook
into
the
planned
trail
network.
That's
proposed
in
that
area
of
the
city.
N
N
Orange
county
public
schools
has
provided
a
report
that
indicates
capacity
for
proposed
development
is
not
available
at
elementary
school
level
and
is
deficient
at
12.24
seats.
Property
zone
for
apopka
elementary
development
review
committee
recommends
approval.
Planning,
commission
unanimously
recommends
approval,
staff
recommends
approval
and
staff
from
the
applicant
are
here
for
questions.
B
The
drawing
that
the
previous
applicant
showed
us
where
it
showed
planned
development
with
school
seats
reserved
for
schools.
Do
we
help
anybody
with
the
city,
that's
keeping
track
of
each
time?
We
approve
these
developments
that
seats
weren't
available.
I
mean
we
keep
saying
4
12
6.,
the
eventually.
O
K
E
N
We're
looking
right
now
at
capacity
and
so
you've
got
capacity
for
zoning
future
lanyards
and
you've
got
concurrency
concurrencies
required
at
plating
stages.
I
am
the
liaison
to
ocps,
so
I'm
the
one
that
gets
the
data
that
shows
how
much
seats
are
deficient.
Ultimately,
it's
orange
county
public
schools
that
tracks
who's
using
the
capacity
that's
a
lot
of
allocated
in
the
encumbrances.
N
So,
for
instance,
when
the
gentleman
up
here
on
the
2302
ocoeepopka
road
talked
about
the
encumbrance
of
for
sentosa
east
shore,
they
have
that
capacity
of
reserved
and
until
2022,
so
it's
kind
of
like
they
went.
They
got
their
place
in
line,
and
you
know
whoever
comes
last
is
back
in
the
back
of
the
line.
V
F
I
mean
I
get
it,
so
the
the
the
capacity
is
kind
of
the
leading
edge
right.
It
kind
of
gives
us
an
indication
of
where
we're
at
now
and
commissioner
smith's
point-
I
mean
we're,
saying:
2
4
12
15
whatever,
but
during
concurrency,
and
typically
some
of
those
are
more
quasi-judicial
in
nature,
too,
I
mean
I'm
trying
to.
I
want
to
give
us
some
ability
to
make
some
more
binary
decisions
versus
each
one
of
us
up
here.
F
It's
a
feeling
and
emotion-based
thing
of
what
that
number
needs
to
be
at
right
and
so
yeah.
We
we
still
have
recourse
as
a
council
during
platting
or
during
whatever.
The
final
piece
is
for
that
for
the
concurrency,
but
yeah
that's
that's
kind
of
giving
the
developers
a
false
promise
too.
We
don't
want
to
get
to
that
stage
where
they're
ready
to
turn
dirt
or
whatever,
and
then
we're
saying
nope
can't
do
it.
So
there's
got
to
be
a
happy
balance
somewhere
in
there.
I
just
don't
know
what
that
looks
like.
N
N
at
the
concurrency
stage.
What
the
developer
would
of
this
project.
Let's
use
this
one
for
an
instance
they're
ready
to
get
their
construction
plans
approved,
go
to
plat.
They
turn
in
an
application
to
orange
county
public
schools.
Orange
county
public
schools
says
there
is
no
available
seats
for
your
concurrency.
So
therefore
you
have
to
mitigate.
N
What
we
would
do,
then,
is
take
that
concurrency
mitigation
agreement
to
the
city
council
and
we're
going
to
have
one
come
up
on
the
21st
for
on
a
related
project
and
ocps
usually
approves
those
and
then
city
council
approves
and
the
mitigation.
It
can
be
a
contribution
of
money,
land
for
school,
a
whole
number
of
things,
so
the
capacity
is
really
just
orange
county
thing
and
it
only
applies
at
rezoning
future
land
use
and
I'll
make
a
dividing
line.
Concurrency
is
that
planning
stage
development
stage
when
you
go
to
actually
construct
the
buildings
yeah.
F
Which
and
I
get
so
if,
but
if
I
play
this
one
out
real
quick
if
a
school
is
at-
let's
say
120
capacity
right
now,
and
we
do
concurrency
and
concurrency
fines,
hey
your
additional
15
people
that
we've
approved
as
part
of
this
deal.
They
don't
have
room
for
15,
more
kids
and
they
come
up
with
a
concurrency
mitigation
agreement.
Money
is
exchanged,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
adding
to
120
with
15
more
kids,
we're
perpetuating
an
existing
problem
so
yeah
on
paper.
F
N
Right
and
the
way
that
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
public
schools
facilities
element
and
set
up
you'll
recall.
Last
year,
the
city
council
adopted
the
amendment
to
the
public
schools
facilities
element
which
basically
allows
the
city
council
to
use
that
as
one
of
the
factors
in
making
their
decision
as
capacity
determinations.
N
F
Yeah
and
to
the
point
that
was
previously
made,
I
think
jim
mentioned
it.
The
capacity
is
based
off
the
max
density
allowable
under
that
density
classification.
Yes,
so
some
you're
gonna,
that's
worst
case
scenario:
you're
gonna
land
somewhere
in
between
that
and
what
the
lowest
you
know.
Average
is.
X
Yeah,
I
believe
this,
this
one
gross
density
is
2.1
dwellings
per
acre
and
they're
greater
for
up
to
3.5.
I
believe
so.
That's
that's
that
give
now.
The
other
thing
that
you
mentioned
is
that
we've
got
that
that,
in
between
area
when
things
are
approved
versus
when
the
payment
is
going
into
the
system-
and
that
was
brought
up
right
near
the
beginning-
is
that
we
can't
the
school
board
can't
build
new
schools
or
add
anything
to
it
until
they
they're
way
over
capacity
and
it
could
be
120
125.
X
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
paying
into
the
system,
so
they
can
actually
build
more
schools
to
make
it
below
capacity.
It's
a
backwards
way
to
do
it,
but
it's
it's
way.
Tallahassee!
Has
it
right
now,
until
somebody
wakes
up
and
says
hey,
we've
got,
we've
got
the
potential
for
5
000
more
units
over
the
next
three
to
five
years.
X
X
A
It's
a
interesting.
I
was
talking
to
the
the
principal
at
apopka
high
school,
mr
heinz,
and,
and
we
were
talking
about
apopka
high
school
and
we
got
you
know
we
us
at
70
or
80
percent
capacity.
He
said
you
know,
and
apopka
is
over
capacity
said.
All
they
have
to
do
is
magically
redraw
the
lines
and
we're
both
under
capacity.
He
said
so
it's
it's
yeah.
A
B
B
A
D
A
Correct
it
could
be,
but
it's
it's
so
it's
kind
of
a
you
know,
there's
ways
for
them
to
do
it.
I
mean
the
dumb
thing.
Is
they
just
need
to
go
ahead
and
just
say
whatever
the
number
needs
to
be
whatever
that
impact
fee
needs
to
be
to
build
the
schools
whatever
that
it
needs
to
be
it
just
should
be,
and
just
just
let
you
know
let
us
figure
out.
You
know
whether
it
makes
sense,
for
you
know
the
development,
the
areas
and
you
know
for
for
us
to
to
make
that
decision.
A
Here's,
the
amp,
here's
the
impact
fee,
but
if
we
want
to
charge
you
more,
we
can-
and
I
can
assure
you
in
the
next
several
years
that
the
legislature
is
going
to
solve
it.
I
mean
they
thought
they'd
solved
it
last
year
and
they
they
twisted
it
again.
So
it's
it's
at
some
point.
It's
coming
back
and,
and
the
legislature
is
going
to
just
tell
them.
You
know
you
just
charge
what
you
need
to
charge
and
we
you
can't
keep
holding
things
up.
X
B
X
A
B
E
X
L
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
commissioners.
We
just
like
to
thank
staff
for
for
all
the
work
on
this
one
and-
and
I
would
like
to
to
point
out
that
the
applicant
who's
here
with
us
to
answer
any
questions.
They
have
been
responsive
to
the
feedback
that
they've
received
from
the
city
and
and
we
have
gone
from
76
units
to
67
units.
L
B
T
F
X
Change
they're
way
up
above
yeah,
they're
they're
way
up
above.
If
you
drive
down
429,
you
can
see
the
homes,
but
it
it's
it's
like
from
here
to
up
there,
they
put
a
wall
and
it's
not
you're,
not
gonna.
You
still
see
the
homes,
no
matter
what
you
can
see,
the
ones
that
are
farther
in
on
the
back
side,
where
there
are
no
fences
required
on
the
south
side
of.
A
Z
Y
Lane
in
apopka
I
appreciate
the
comment
and
discussion
with
regard
to
ocps,
because
this
this
is
where
it
all
hits
and
a
long
time
ago
I
learned,
if
you
always
do
what
you
always
done.
You
always
get
what
you
always
got
and
we
continue
to
do
this
wolf
lake
middle
and
elementary
school
opened
with
46
portables
15
years
ago
and
they're
talking
about
removing
five
or
six
now
for
the
first
time.
Why?
Because
of
the
coven
no
one's
in
school,
the
new
campus,
the
k
through
eight,
has
space
available
for
12
portables.
Y
We
have
got
to
stop
and
we
we've
got
lovingly.
I
was
raised
catholic
attila.
The
nun
taught
me
before
you
ever
point
your
finger
at
someone
else.
Ask
yourself
these
questions.
What
did
I
do?
What
didn't
I
do?
What
could
I
have
done
because
god's
watching
and
we
have
got
to
do
something
different
orange
county-
enjoys
over
two
thousand
portables.
Y
You
have
to
add
the
three
largest
school
districts
or
the
fourth
large
school
to
come
up
with
a
hundred
more
than
what
we
have
orange
county
has
to
do
it
differently.
We
have
to
work
with
the
state.
We
have
to
work
with
ocps
quit
pointing
fingers.
We
got
to
get
it
done.
We
can't
keep
jamming
kids
into
portables.
Y
I
won't
get
into
my
safety
and
all
that
other
businesses
we
have
before,
but
this
is
this:
we've
got
to
stop
doing
it.
This
way-
and
I
understand
things
eyes
are
dotted
t's
are
across.
We
have
worked,
got
to
work
together
with
ocps
and
we've
got
to
work
together
with
the
state
to
make
some
changes.
We
can't
continue
to
do
this.
A
A
A
A
F
A
F
Reiterate
I
mean
we
still
have
recourse
right.
I
mean
it's
a
concurrency
phase,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
pretty
right
because
an
applicant
like
yourself
marching
down
the
path
hey.
I've
got
my
my
land
use
change
or
my
zoning
change
that
we're
exploring
here
today,
you're
going
to
get
to
a
concurrency
conversation,
and
maybe
our
comfort
level
up
at
that
stage,
isn't
to
say:
okay,
we're
willing
to
take
the
risk.
It's
nope
until
there's
satisfaction,
I'm
just
saying
it's.
We
still
have
that
recourse.
V
E
AH
A
AA
Ordinance
number
2836
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
amending
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
apopka
by
creating
chapter
2,
article
8
code
enforcement
by
amending
part,
3
land
development
code,
article
2
administration,
section,
2.3,
advisory
and
decision
making,
bodies
and
persons
by
amending
part.
3
article
9
enforcement,
section
9.5.1
responsibility
for
enforcement
by
amending
part
3
article
9,
section
9.5
in
its
entirety,
providing
for
codification
providing
for
severability,
providing
for
conflicts
and
setting
an
effective
date.
AC
One
of
the
matters
that
concerned
me
and
what
and
kind
of
drove
for
this
amendment
is,
as
our
code
was
currently
constituted,
the
code
enforcement
section
was
put
in
the
land
development
code
and
incorporated
as
part
of
enforcement
administration
of
the
land
development
code,
and
it
made
it
unclear
whether
it
actually
applied
to
the
code
itself,
especially
since
many
of
our
violations
are
located
in
the
code
of
ordinances.
So
what
this
ordinance
this
ordinance
does?
AC
Is
it
moves
the
administrative
aspects
of
code
enforcement
over
the
land
to
the
code
of
ordinances
in
chapter
two,
which
is
the
administration
portion
of
the
code?
It
is
then
referenced
in
the
land
development
code
that
enforcement
of
the
land
development
code
will
be
done
through
code
enforcement,
as
provided
for
in
in
chapter
two
of
the
code.
The
update
aspect
of
is
is
since
the
city
has
now
exceeded
a
population
of
50
000.
AC
That's
in
chapter
162
to
one
thousand
dollars
per
day
for
first
violation
and
believe
me
update
my
numbers
again,
so
it's
a
thousand
per
day
for
the
first
violation,
five
thousand
per
day
for
repeat
violations,
instead
of
a
thousand
and
up
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
a
violation
if
the
violation
is
found
to
be
irreparable
or
irreversible,
and
that
usually
the
best
example
are
certain
environmental
violations
where
you
just
can't
fix
it.
So
therefore,
that's
defined
to
be
levied.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
this
code
enforcement
ordinance.
It's
just
mainly
a
lot
of
housekeeping.
AC
A
B
B
AC
Community
development
pro
community
project
community
project
funding
so
as
as
part
of
the
process
to
request
such
cpf
of
your
local
representative,
a
re,
the
local
government
has
to
pass
a
resolution
showing
support
for
the
project
that
they
seek
to
request
an
allocation
of
funds
from
congress.
Therefore,
the
reason
for
this
resolution
is
for
the
council
to
express
their
support
for
requesting
funds
for
the
construction
of
the
additional
water
storage
tank
at
the
northwest
water
production
plant.
A
Any
questions
for
michael
just
to
give
you
a
little
context,
so
she
gets
10
per
year
and
so
just
look
at
based
on
how
big
of
you
know
the
the
district
is.
I
figured
we'll
put
one
in
in
two
different
kind
of
areas
both
are
needed,
so
if
we
got
the
funding,
we'd
be
excited
and
if,
if
we
don't
you
know,
it's
both
are
still
in
the
cap
five-year
capital
plan.
So
we
just
picked
two
out
of
the
of
the
many
projects
that
we
you
could
could
help
with
some
support.
A
D
AC
AA
AC
To
the
previous
resolution,
this
is
the
request
for
cpf
for
expanded
outdoor
recreation
facilities
within
the
city.
We
have
provided
our
justification
for
the
need
for
these
additional
facilities,
and
this
resolution
reflects
the
support
of
the
local
government
in
in
asking
in
in
the
need
for
these
facilities
and
therefore,
in
its
request
for
cpf
from
congress.
A
F
S
AC
Now
this
is,
this
is
just
one
exhibit
as
part
of
the
packet,
it's
an
entire
packet.
The
resolution
is
just
one,
but
yes,
there
is
they'll,
know
how
much
to
fund.
What's
the
funding
and
all
that,
but
one
of
the
items
that
has
to
be
included
similar
to
there
being
a
resolution
for
what
we
did
for
camp.
We
watched
the
similar
case.
This
is
a
resolution
that
that
shows
that
evidence
is
the
support
of
the
local
government
and
wanting
this
project
and
therefore
needing
these
funds
requesting
these.
E
E
E
E
W
E
W
Well,
I
think
I
think
we
were,
I
think,
as
as
far
as
this
goes,
and
we've
been
very
careful
of
conversations
that
we've
had
internally
about
anything
that
we
put
in
that
area
would
be
very
low
impact
and
so
something
like
if
we
did
this,
if
we
put
an
accessible
playground
in
there,
this
opportunity
came
up
and
we
had
that.
That's
something
that
it's
a
daytime
activity,
that's
not
gonna!
That's
not
gonna
generate
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
noise
and
a
lot
of
actually
it's
not
it's
not
going
to
be.
W
A
A
Trees,
we
only
took
down,
we
took
down
the
pine,
trees
got
paid
for
them,
and
then
we,
I
asked
brian
to
take,
take
out
the
cherry
laurels
which
are
a
nuisance
tree.
So
the
only
trees
we
took
out
were
pines
because
we
were
going
to
have
to
pay
to
have
them
taken
down
and
cherry
laurels,
which
are
just
a
nuisance.
W
W
W
I
don't
think
you
know
and,
like
I
said,
there's
nothing
concrete,
but
I
would
say
that
the
conversations
we've
had
is
anything
that
we
put
in
that
area
we're
very
sensitive
to
that
neighborhood.
And
we
understand
that
anything
in
that.
If
we
put
anything
in
that
spot
that
it
would
be
something
that
was
low
impact
low
noise
low,
something
that
wouldn't
really
have
a
negative
impact
on
on
that
neighborhood.
W
E
D
E
Then
I'm
surprised
by
what
the
plans
are,
so
I
would
appreciate
if
the
staff,
at
some
point,
when
you
have
something
coming
down
the
pipes
or
you're
planning
something,
would
you
let
the
commissioners
know
at
least
give
us
a
heads
up,
because
I
find
that
when
I
turn
on
social
media,
I'm
like
oh,
I
didn't.
I
didn't
know
that
or
I
opened
up
the
apocalypse
chief
I
go.
Oh,
I.
E
D
W
A
V
F
C
Good
afternoon
majors
and
commissioners,
this
is
a
request
to
cancel
to
adopt
resolution
number
2021-10,
totaling,
202
733,
the
exhibit
a
will
show
three
items.
The
first
one
is
the
amendment
that
include
changes
in
revenues
and
appropriations
for
the
final
payment
of
section.
Six
of
the
morton
road
interchange,
cost
sharing
agreement
dated
september
22nd
2015,
and
the
request
is
pursuant
to
the
payment
of
synthetic
tax,
increment
financing
for
tax
year
2020,
and
that
is
a
total
of
6898.
C
The
second
one
is
an
amendment
that
includes
changes
in
funding
and
appropriations
related
to
the
advent
health,
apopka
partnership
proposal
approved
by
the
city
council
on
march
4
2020
and
the
budget
amendment
that
was
previously
approved
on
march
18,
2020
address
expenditures
affiliated
with
the
agreements,
multiple
recreation
projects.
However,
the
previous
amendment
did
not
include
the
funding
that
was
to
be
dedicated
to
sports
scholarships
in
the
amount
of
ten
thousand
dollars.
C
This
amendment
from
reserves
will
address
these
and
funding
will
be
reimbursed
by
admin
health
over
the
agreement,
which
is
five
year
period,
and
the
third
one
is
the
amendment
that
includes
changes
in
revenues
and
appropriations
related
to
the
city
of
apopka
and
the
san
jose
river.
Water
management,
district
florida
springs
grant
program
and
the
agreement
was
executed
on
september
17
2018
for
a
distributed
sewer
retrofit
project.
An
amendment
was
updated
on
march
3rd
2021
to
allow
saint
john's
river
waterman
management
district
to
pay
75
of
the
costs
per
each
unit
and
change.
C
A
G
The
total
I
know
mayor
and
the
reason
we're
making
this
adjustment
is
because
we
didn't
think
we
would
have
that
that
payment
right.
This
is
the
final
payment
closes
it
out.
But
if
I
recall,
we've
had
to
pay
the
last
couple
of
years,
you've
had
the
last
two
years
you've
had
to
pay
and
I
think
one
was
around
140
or
50
000,
and
then
one
of
them
was
200
and
200,
and
some
thousand
two
hundred
and
four.
G
A
AB
T
E
P
We
really
had
some
good
discussion
on
the
main
thing
for
me.
Was
that
question
about
this
school
concurrency
issue
and
dealing
with
that
and
I'm
glad
that
we're
going
to
put
a
statement
together?
Can
we
go
further
than
that
and
get
information?
Is
it
at
the
state
level?
Is
it
at
orange
county?
Is
it
some
of
each
well.
Q
A
The
state's
trumping
local
and
they
thought
they
trumped
them
last
year
and
then
orange
county
did
a
workaround,
and
so
now
it's
I'd
be
surprised
if
they
don't
have
another
fix
in
this.
The
session
we're
currently
in,
but
that's
just
yeah,
but
we
shall
see.
Okay,
that's
it,
mr
smith.
I
have
nothing
to
do.
Okay,
mr
becker
I'll
yield
all
right.
Wow,
okay,
edward.
G
G
All
right
so
you've
been
hearing
the
same
story
month
after
month
after
month
and
well.
I
will
tell
you
that
it
continues
and
it's
the
almost
mirrors
exactly
the
month
before
so
your
your
sales
tax
you'll
see
your
sales
tax
numbers.
This
year,
this
month
were
696
little
more
than
696
thousand
dollars,
still
a
27
decrease
over
the
prior
year.
G
G
Where
we're
comparison,
comparing
last
where
we
got
where
in
2020,
the
coveted
numbers
actually
hit
so
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
we
compare
to
that
time
as
we
move
through
this
each
month
and
get
closer
to
this
fiscal
year
so
anyway.
So
there's
that
news.
Two
other
quick
things
that
I'd
like
to
say
is
I'd
like
to
mention
to
you
that
the
inmate
crews,
as
you
know,
we
went,
we
had
four
m8
crews.
We
went
down
to
two
in
the
last
budget.
G
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
take
those
dollars
that
we
had
budgeted
for
that
and
use
them
if
we
need
to
supplement
them
with
with
temporary
labor.
We
will
do
that.
All
of
this
being
said
as
we
move
through
the
budget
process,
we
will
be
bringing
these
this.
These
items
forward
to
brian
foreman
will
bring
these
for
you
to
his
budget,
bring
it
forward
to
with
his
budget
as
we
work
through
these
work
squads.
G
G
No,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
take
the
we're
not
going
to
be
paying
the
department
of
corrections,
because
the
inmates
will
not
be
here
with
us.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
use
these
dollars,
redirect
these
dollars
to
temporary
labor
to
fill
that
gap
so
that
we
can
continue
forward
with
our
budget
this
year
and
then
in
the
current
budget
we
will
be
talking
about
what
are
our
pros?
What
are
our?
What
are?
What
are
our
plans
for
for
inmate
crews
going
forward
based
on?
G
Are
they
going
to
be
available
anymore?
You
know:
do
we
do
we
go
take
a
different
approach,
we'll
be
bringing
that
to
you
at
the
budget
hearings,
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
keep.
I
just
wanted
you
to
under
to
have
that
and
then
the
last
piece
of
information
covet
has
been
hit
all
around
the
shingles
for
the
city
hall.
Roof
have
they're
on
order,
they're
hoping
that
you
know
covet
has
had
a
lot
of
materials.
G
D
G
Take
a
couple
weeks
to
do
that
because
they
have
to
replace
a
lot
of
that
wood
and
then
they
have
to
do
gutters
so
hopefully,
hopefully
with
covid.
Hopefully
if
they
get
all
the
shingles
in
on
time,
the
roof
on
city
hall
should
be
all
the
stuff.
The
roof
and
everything
on
the
roof
should
be
completed
by
the
end
of
may.
Z
A
A
This
will
give
us
more
obviously
give
us
more
water
to
hold,
and
so
we're
going
to
be,
probably
north
of
350
million,
gallons
of
storage
and
we've
probably
got
10
percent
of
the
of
the
the
storage
pond
is
now
lined,
and
so
they're
continuing
to
do
that,
and
we
we
just
approved
them
a
couple
of
months
ago.
So
this
is
the
liner
that
you'll
you'll
see
out
at
the
golden
gym
pond
sites.
If
you
get
a
chance,
you
want
to
go
out
and
take
a
look
at
it.
A
It's
a
massive
massive
hole
in
the
ground
that
will
go
a
long
way
toward
meeting
our
our
water
needs
as
far
as
irrigation
goes
so
anyway,
all
right
couple,
quick
things
here:
project
mockingbird
we're
in
the
running
for
a
it's
a
manufacturing
company
they're
out
of
I
want
to
say,
texas,
it's
have
to
they
leave.
They
give
you
code
names,
project
mockingbird.
A
L
A
The
airport,
so
hopefully,
hopefully
we
get
that
one
and-
and
I
think
we've
met
with
them
three
or
four
times,
so
we
got
a
pretty
good
relationship.
Hopefully
you
know
the
numbers
work
out
and
we
we
are
selected
vaccinations
second
vaccination
for
those
that
got
the
pfizer
here
in
the
pop
get
the
vfw
that
will
be
tomorrow,
thursday
april
8th.
So
if
you,
if
you
haven't
already
called
in
to
get
your
your
second
appointment,
you
know
please
do
that
and
we
want
to
make
sure
you
get
that.
Second
vaccination.
A
Third
up,
let's
see
barbecue
competition,
hometown
showcase.
You
know
that's
coming
up
this
weekend
so
friday,
the
barbecue
showdown.
I
know,
we've
got
over.
70
teams
now
got
a
wing
competition.
On
friday
night
people's
choice
award,
we've
got
the.
We
got
bailey
callahan
as
our
kind
of
our
keynote
chad,
crib
band
johnny,
the
moon
dogs
bobby
sanders
and
special
guest
jeremiah
williams,
going
to
be
singing
for
us,
so
going
to
be
great,
also
got
axe,
throwing
barbecue
food
merchandise,
cornhole
tournament
by
the
elks,
fireworks,
local
beer
and
wine.
A
Vendors
special
brew
from
three
odd
guys:
t-shirts
for
sale,
I'd
like
to
thank
our
sponsors,
dan
newland
injury,
sunny's,
barbecue,
mullen
x,
ford,
waste
management,
liner
patch
nelson's
tents
and
events,
no
relation
hilden
garden,
inn
103.1,
the
wolf
and
apopka
elks
lodge
so
and
the
florida
barbecue
association.
So
it
should
be
a
great
weekend.
Come
on
out.
A
Y
A
F
B
A
A
Oh
gosh,
all
right
rotary
fairs
coming
up.
It's
starting
tomorrow,
it'll
be
at
kentland
nelson
park
through
sunday.
So
if
you
want
to
bring
the
kids
down
and
ride
a
ride
or
two
should
be
a
great
time
worthy
cause,
they
donate
money
to
the
central
florida
community,
jeans,
wendy,
just
wanna.
Let
you
know
thank
you
to
all
the
employees
out
there
that
donated
to
lynn
collette
in
finance
facing
some
tough
challenges
as
far
as
cancer.
A
So
we,
as
always
our
our
employees,
step
up
and
really
make
a
difference
and
helping
this
family
out
was
really
touching.
So
I
appreciate
that
officer.
Quinton
ned,
made
his
way
to
tallahassee
was
on
the
floor
of
the
house
of
representatives
would
have
loved
to
have
gone,
but
the
protocols
I
was
forced
to
go
through
and
who
I
could
see
and
couldn't
see
which
was
about
zero.
A
A
Obviously
that
runs
the
the
building
department,
as
we
have
now
achieved
the
final
milestones
of
the
dfl
5-amazon
project.
I
would
like
to
personally
extend
my
build
teams,
gratitude
to
yourself
and
all
of
your
personnel
at
the
city's
numerous
departments
we
were
in
contact
with,
as
you
were,
a
very
instrumental
cog
and
are
faced
fast
faster
than
he
didn't
spell
right,
fast-paced
machine.