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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting October 7, 2020
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on October 7, 2020 at 1:30 PM.
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A
A
A
A
B
Heavenly
father,
we
gather
again
today
we
ask
for
your
blessing
upon
our
meeting.
We
thank
you,
lord
god,
as
you
help
us
as
we
make
decisions
that
affect
all
of
the
city,
we
ask
you
to
give
us
wisdom
and
to
do
those
things
which
are
benefit
to
all.
We
thank
you,
father,
as
we
continue
to
fight
against
covet
that
we
would
use
wisdom
in
our
approach
and
that
you
would
continue
to
bless
us
and
bring
those
numbers
down.
We
just
give
you
the
praise
in
jesus
name,
amen,.
B
All
october
7
1913
henry
ford
debuts
the
assembly
line
at
his
factory
in
michigan.
This
new
technique
revolutionized
the
factory
process
by
speeding
up
the
time
needed
to
assemble
a
car,
thereby
reducing
the
costs
of
the
product
assembling
a
car
previously
took
about
over
12
hours.
Thanks
to
the
refinement
of
the
assembly
line
process,
it
took
just
less
than
93
minutes.
The
increase
in
productivity
meant
a
decrease
in
cost,
thereby
making
car
ownership
affordable
and
accessible
to
the
middle
class.
A
D
E
D
H
A
G
We've
been
working,
we've
been
working
with
apopka
woods
mayor
on
an
issue
that
they
have
with
their
their
stormwater
drains
and
our
attorney's
been
working
on
it
and
their
staff's
been
working
on
it.
So
it
may
be
those
discussions
you're
talking
about
that
we've
been
having
with
the
hoa
but
there's
nothing
scheduled
actually
on
the
council
meeting,
the
staff
is
at
a
staff
level
that
we're
working
with
the
hoa
right
now
so.
A
A
B
A
I
Here
and
here
on,
that's
binyan
road
and
this
driveway
here
into
the
st
john's
river
water
management,
district's
new
site.
We
entered
into
agreement
with
st
john's
on
may
7th
in
2019
and
part
of
that
agreement
was
that
if
they
came
here
and
we
got
the
hickerson
property,
we
would
we
would
pay
for
that.
And
at
that
time
we
thought
we
were
simply
going
to
write
them
a
check.
I
But
it
didn't
work
out
that
way,
and
so
we
find
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we
have
to
contract
with
a
contractor
staff
recommends
waiving
our
procurement
process.
That
requires
something
of
this
value
to
be
put
out
for
public
bid,
but
because
they
went
through
the
same
process
we
would
go
through
and
I
think
maybe
their
process
is
even
a
little
more
restrictive
than
ours.
I
Time,
that's
the
whole
point
of
it.
We
want.
We
need
to
stay
synced
up
and
I'll.
Tell
you
the
the
the
cost
savings
just
for
staff
time.
It
would
be
a
lot
their
their
contractor
and
part
of
their
process.
They'll
more
or
less
be
overseeing
it
we'll
do
it
just
like
we
do
any
other
development
we'll
have
our
inspectors
out
there.
I
E
I
A
E
I
E
F
I
If
we
do
it
this
way,
yes,
yes,
I
mean
we
have
a
couple
extra
steps
like
what
we're
doing
right
now,
and
finance
and
procurement
will
have
to
put
together
a
contract
for
us
to
sign
directly
with
collage
but
compared
to
well,
if
they
had
just
done
it
themselves,
no
it
it's
that's
a
real
small
savings.
The
big
expense
would
have
been
if
we
had
to
advertise
it.
A
Good,
mr
smith,
okay,
mister,
thank
you
good!
All
right,
okay,
anybody
from
the
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter,
susan.
You
want
to
come
up
same
thing.
You,
good,
okay,
okay,
look
for
a
motion
to
authorize
a
waiver
of
the
city's
procurement
process
and
contract
with
the
collage
companies
llc
for
construction
of
the
access
road
for
the
future.
St
john's
water
management,
district
service
center.
B
D
J
Good
afternoon,
you
all
may
recall
that
you
previously
approved
an
initial
contract
to
do
a
storm
water
utility
rate
study,
as
the
contractor
got
into
it.
They
found
that
the
work
that
was
going
to
be
necessary
was
quite
a
bit
more
detailed
and
so
we're
coming
back
now
at
this
time
with
an
amendment,
we
reviews
their
reviewed
and
worked
with
them
heavily
on
their
scope
of
work,
and
we
agree
that
this
is
where
we
should
be
as
far
as
what
the
contract
should
be
and
what
scopes
should
be,
of
course,
naturally,
it
went
dead
anyway.
J
A
of
selecting
future
stormwater
projects
that
are
based
on
conditions
and
needs,
rather
than
just
oh,
this
is
a
product
we
think
we
should
do
based
on
facts
and
such
so
that's,
basically
the
summary
of
it.
The
funding
will
come
from
the
stormwater
fund
and
with
that
I'll,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
you
may
have
any
questions.
Any
questions.
E
Just
a
small
request
in
section
3.1,
where
they
talk
about
preparation
of
the
rate,
study
and
presentations,
is
it
possible
if
we
can
get
maybe
some
sample
ones
that
they've
done
for
other
municipalities?
That
way,
because
in
a
work
effort
like
this,
where
it's
so
large
and
comprehensive,
I
don't
want
them
to
prepare
a
bunch
of
stuff
and
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
the
council.
I
would
hope
that
we
can
just
get
the
study
and
give
feedback
so
that.
C
A
D
K
A
Phil
any
changes,
no
changes.
Can
anybody
from
the
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter?
Okay,
if
not
we'll
close
the
public
hearing,
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
or
adopt
ordinance
number
2783
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second,
like
mr
becker,
all
those
in
favor,
aye,
aye
aye,
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
ordinance,
number
2784.
K
Okay,
ordinance
number
2784,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
changing
the
zoning
from
a.g
agricultural
district
to
il
light;
industrial
district
for
certain
real
property
located
north
of
east
keene,
road
and
west
of
clercona
road
comprising
2.24
acres,
more
or
less
and
owned
by
faircloth
family
ltd,
providing
for
severability
and
for
an
effective
date.
Any.
A
D
A
D
K
Ordinance
number
2789
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171.044
the
here
and
after
described,
land
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
chs
management,
corp
located
south
of
lent
road
and
east
of
plymouth,
serendo
road
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
A
D
E
E
L
All
right
bobby,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
good
afternoon,
bobby
howe
planning
manager
with
the
community
development
department.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
rezoning
of
56.51
acres
of
property
from
transition
to
kelly
park,
interchange,
mixed
use
with
a
transition
and
neighborhood
character
zone
to
develop
a
subdivision
consisting
of
202
units
subject
to
the
requirements
of
the
kelly
park,
interchange,
form-based
code.
The
property
is
located
on
the
west
side
of
plymouth
sorrento
road,
approximately
a
quarter
mile
north
of
the
intersection
of
kelly
park,
road
and
plymouth.
L
Sorrento
road
surrounding
zoning
is
the
ones
that
you
see
in
the
orange
cross.
Hatch
are
in
the
kelly
park,
interchange,
form-based,
co-district
purple
is
transitioned,
meaning
it
was
annexed
and
then
subsequently,
given
the
transition,
zoning,
which
is
kind
of
a
placeholder
until
they
come
back
to
the
council
for
a
rezoning
and
the
property
is
located
within
the
one
mile
radius
of
the
state
road
429
cali
park,
road
interchange,
if
any
site
or
portion
of
a
site
is
located
within
that
radius.
L
The
entire
site
is
subject
to
the
form-based
standards
contained
within
the
form
based
code,
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
the
form
based
code.
The
owner
submitted
a
master
plan
in
conjunction
with
the
rezoning
application
detailing
the
development
of
202
residential
units.
The
master
plan
proposes
development
of
property
with
202
units,
which
143
are
a
single
family
and
59
are
town
homes
and
the
two
point
acre
2.4
acre
non-residential
parcel
is
located
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site.
That
is
a
reserve
for
future
development.
This
is
the
non-residential
portion
right
here.
L
The
town
homes
are
primarily
concentrated
in
here
in
the
transition
district,
and
then
this
is
the
neighborhood
district
right
there,
where
the
single
family
residences
are
primarily
located
at
a
minimum.
Living
area
of
1600
square
feet
is
provided
for
the
single
family
units
and
1200
square
feet
is
provided
for
the
town
homes
lot
widths
for
the
single
family
units
range
between
40
and
50
feet.
There
are
no
minimum
and
maximum
lot
size
and
living
area
requirements
in
the
form
base
code.
L
L
Right
there
within
that
strip,
there'll
be
a
12-foot
wide
bicycle
trail
that
will
be
constructed
by
the
developer
to
help
facilitate
the
construction
of
the
regional
trail
system.
That
is
conceptually
proposed
within
the
form-based
code
area
and
as
you'll
recall,
from
the
bridal
path,
development,
which
is
located
to
the
north,
which
is
the
same
developer.
They
have
constructed
the
12-foot
trail
already
so
it'd
be
leading
south
and
ultimately
leak
up
with
the
public
site
and
go
through
the
whole
form-based
code
area.
L
L
Common
recreation
elements
include
a
community
swimming
pool,
an
internal
trail
system,
passive
open
space
and
recreation
areas,
and
the
dedication
of
the
bike
trail
along
plymouth,
sorrento
road
right
and
left
turn
lanes
at
the
site
entrance
are
warranted
and
will
be
required
to
be
constructed
prior
to
the
entrance
of
a
first
prior
to
the
issuance
of
the
first
certificate
of
occupancy
architectural
elevations
provided
are
consistent
with
the
form-based
code.
There
are
conditions
of
approval
that
are
noted
within
your
ordinance
and
the
staff
report.
A
A
B
A
L
This
policy
of
the
comprehensive
plan
does
not
allow
the
city
to
approve
either
a
comprehensive
plan
amendment
or
a
rezoning
which
increases
the
density
on
a
residential
piece
of
property
until
orange
county
public
schools
is
determined
whether
there
is
capacity
in
the
system
to
exist
that
exists
at
the
time
of
the
change
or
executes
a
capacity
enhancement
agreement
known
as
a
cea
that
provides
for
capacity
for
that
development
in
2020,
ocps
stopped
entering
into
ceas
with
residential
developers,
but
are
still
still
issuing
capacity
determinations
before
in
cases
where
ocps
is
determined.
There
is
no
capacity.
L
These
projects
would
enter
into
a
cea
with
ocps
and
then
proceed
through
the
development
approval
process.
Now
for
projects
where
ocps
determines
there
is
no
capacity
available.
They
are
inconsistent
with
policy
3.1
of
the
public
schools
facilities,
element
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
they
cannot
obtain
a
cea
since
ocps
does
not
issue
those
anymore.
L
This
text
has
caused
residential
developers
to
either
withdraw
their
applications
or
wait
until
the
text
of
the
comprehensive
plan
is
amended
to
ensure
their
request
is
consistent
with
the
public
schools
facilities
of
the
comprehensive
plan
staff
is
proposing
this
text
amendment
to
the
comprehensive
plan
to
remove
language
related
to
ceas,
which
they
are
no
longer
in
existence
and
ocps,
does
not
enter
into
those
anymore.
This
language
mirrors
an
amendment
that
was
approved
by
orange
county.
They
had
their
adoption
on
september
22nd.
That's
my
understanding.
City
of
orlando
is
pursuing
the
same
language
as
well.
L
L
L
Apparently,
the
ceas
kind
of
were
took
place
over
those,
so
there'll
still
be
some
type
of
mechanism
to
ensure
there's
no
overcrowding
in
schools,
but
this
this
element
of
the
comp
plan
that
we
have
it's
consistent
with
every
element
in
the
whole
county.
So
back
in
2008,
when
there
was
an
analytical
agreement,
all
the
cities
and
the
county
had
to
have
the
same
exact,
comprehensive
plan
language
being
that
there's
no
ceas
that
we're
taking
all
the
stuff
out
that
references
ceas,
which
is
basically
outdated
language.
B
L
F
F
L
My
understanding
that
the
sixth
month
was
given
for
18
projects
that
are
out
there
that
previously
had
approved
ceas
this
the
ocps,
actually
approached
us
and
asked
us
to
revise
our
comp
plan
to
take
out
the
cea
language,
just
as
the
county
did,
and
just
as
orlando
is
doing
so.
The
the
six
month
thing.
As
I
understand
it,
is
something
that
relates
to
18
projects
that
were
still
in
the
hopper
when
all
this
cea
stuff
kind
of
went
down.
M
In
addition,
we
did
have
a
zoom
meeting
yesterday
or
a
web
web
browser
meeting
yesterday
with
a
few
of
the
other
cities
in
orange,
county
and
ocps,
and
what
we're
looking
at
doing,
because
we
have
a
current
agreement
with
ocps
and
all
the
other
cities
do
too,
along
with
orange
county.
Is
that
with
this
multi-jurisdictional
approval
process,
they're
looking
at
it
establishing
levels
for
approvals,
if
a
school
or
if
a
development
affects
a
particular
school
negatively,
and
what
would
end
up
happening
is
that,
of
course,
a
lot
of
the
schools
are
over
capacity.
M
M
Like
one
or
two
or
three
students,
something
like
that,
then
they
can't
approve
it
either
and
right
now
there
is
no
there's
no
mechanism
to
allow
us
to
approve
it
unless
orange
county
says
okay,
so
they're
they're
in
this
will
be
part
of
an
agreement
that,
in
our
local
agreement,
that'll
take
take
the
place
of
the
one
that
we
have
right
now,
which
also
currently
has
cea
information
on
it.
And
so
we
can't
we
can't
proceed
until
all
this
is
approved.
A
A
C
C
A
M
Live
with
and
by
the
way,
when
you
do
see,
there's
a
there's,
a
list
of
different
projects
that
are,
you
know
in
the
in
the
county,
there's
three
that
are
listed
right
up
top.
I
believe
two
of
them
are
already
done
and
the
other
one
they
they
with.
They
pulled
it
the
the
applicant.
So
those
three
aren't
actually
current.
This
isn't
it's
an
old
list,
so
they
didn't
update
it
or
ask
us
before
they
put
out
this
list
in
that
powerpoint.
But
we'll
get
that
over
to
you
this
afternoon.
F
Okay,
I
guess
my
concern
is:
I
don't
want
to
continue
approving
the
development
and
there's
not
capacity
in
the
school
for
these
students,
and
we
know
I
agree.
The
old
system
was
broken
because
even
the
dollars
they
set
aside
for
the
overage,
unless
there
was
an
extreme
capacity,
they
would
not
build
a
school
anyway.
They
only
simply
put
a
portable
there
and
the
portable
was
not
temporary,
it
became
permanent,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
keep
compounding
the
problem
that
we
already
have.
F
A
L
M
D
E
Know
whereas
before
when
we
talked
about
ceas,
we
always
kind
of
transitioned
the
burden
of
that
decision
over
to
ocps
right.
It
was
real
convenient
for
us
to
sit
up
here
and
say:
hey
ocps
looked
at
this.
They
agreed
to
the
cea.
So
why
should
we
stop
this
development?
If
the
the
school
that's
going
to
have?
The
capacity
issue
is
okay
with
it.
E
We've
flipped
that
on
its
head
now,
because
now
all
of
the
burden
based
off
of
how
we're
wording.
This
is
going
to
be
on
us
right
because
it
says
in
here.
If
orange
county
public
schools
indicates
there
is
not
if
there
is
insufficient
capacity
in
the
affected
schools,
the
city
of
apopka
may
take
into
consideration
the
severity
of
the
overcrowding
and
the
timing
of
the
availability
of
the
needed
capacity
to
accommodate
the
proposed
development
when
deciding
whether
to
approve
or
deny
so.
E
M
For
this
portion,
yes,
but
the
interlocal
agreement
will
be
a
little
bit
more
specific
in
regards
to
de
minimis
type
projects.
If
something
comes
in
and
generates
one
student,
that
more
than
likely
would
be
one
of
those
conditions
where
orange
county
would
say,
okay
and
then
we
could
say
yes
or
no,
I
mean
we
could
still
say
yes
or
no.
E
So,
with
the
way
that
I'm
looking
at
this
the
business
in
front
of
me
right
now,
I
want
clarity
and
quantification
about
severity.
So
when
we
look
at
this
again,
I
would
expect
staff
to
come
up
with
a
proposal
to
say
hey
if
it's
above,
if
it's
overcapacity
by
this
number,
it's
this
amount
of
risk.
If
it's
over
capacity
by
20
students,
here's
the
you
know
some
way
for
us
to
be
able
to
calibrate
whether
or
not
we
should
feel
comfortable
in
approving
something.
If,
if
it's
minimally
over
capacity
or
something
much
larger,.
M
A
N
F
M
Yes,
they're
well
they're
the
ones
that
will
still
say
whether
a
school
is
over
capacity
or
not
that
that
that
won't
change,
because
they're
they're,
the
keeper
of
the
numbers
for
all
the
schools
and
all
the
developments,
and
we
just
keep
them
apprised
of
any
any
development.
But
at
the
same
in
the
same
breath,
though,
any
development
that
does
come
before
us
will
also,
depending
on
how
big
it
is
or
how
the
how
much
of
it
it
affects
the
the
particular
schools
orange
county.
M
E
N
E
L
Yeah,
if
I
could
just
one
other
thing
also
is,
is
that
it's
my
understanding,
orange
county
is
the
only
county
in
the
state
where
you
have
to
do.
Capacity.
Capacity
only
applies
at
the
rezoning
and
comprehensive
plan
stages.
You
also
have
concurrency,
which
is
applicable
statewide,
that's
in
state
law,
so
that
applies
before
any
development
comes
up
here
before
the
plat
is
approved.
A
You
couldn't
charge
above
what
the
impact
fee
was
and
right,
theoretically
the
school
board
could
say:
okay,
we
want
ten
thousand
dollars
per
student
and
that's
addition
to
whatever
your
impact
fee
is,
and
you
don't
get
that.
Doesn't
it's
not
a
credit
against
the
impact
fee?
You
already
owe
so
it's
like
okay,
if,
if
you're,
if
you're,
not
the
impact
being
high
enough,
just
get
it
to
where
we
got
enough
capacity,
you
know
enough
dollars
coming
in
to
build
the
schools
we
need.
A
But
the
other
thing
is
kind
of
interesting
is
that
the
school
board
has
500
million
dollars
in
reserves
that
they
have.
You
know
for
school,
you
know
building
and
so
they've
got
money
that
they
could.
Now
I
mean
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
weeds
as
to
you
know
which
schools
should
be
built,
but
they've
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
cash
that
they're
sitting
on
the
sidelines
with
that
they
could.
They
could
be
building
some
schools.
M
And
by
the
way
we
are
in
fact,
as
a
orange
county
staff
actually
pointed
this
out
right
near
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
is
we
are
the
only
county
that
actually
has
this
in
the
whole
state
of
florida,
this
process
ceas
and
all
that
they
they
got
put
into
the
charter
for
orange
county
and
we
have
to
abide
by
the
charter.
And,
of
course,
if
you
go
back
to
try
to
change
the
charter
and
it
has
to
do
anything
with
school
capacity
or
you
know,
issues
with
with
kids,
it
probably
won't
get
passed.
M
D
O
Worms,
rod,
olson,
3156,
rolling
hills,
lanes,
apopka,
no,
the
whole
system
has
to
be
looked
at.
I
want
to
look
at
this
more
carefully,
basically
for
the
first
time
in
15
years
ocps
and
I
just
denied
a
developer
and
we
approved
it
other
than
commissioner
smith
said
no
to
it,
and
we
were
kind
of
under
pressure.
We
allowed
herself
to
get
into
a
box
because
we
didn't
with
the
with
the
developer,
coming
in
with
a
court
recorder
in
the
first
meeting.
They
missed
deadlines
with
the
county.
O
They
missed
deadlines
with
ocps,
they
missed
deadlines
with
us
and
we
didn't
call
them
to
it.
So
we
put
ourselves
in
a
position
in
my
opinion,
since
your
question
just
the
aspect
of
who
tracks
it,
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
tracking
it
because
they
missed
dotting
the
eyes
and
crossing
the
t's.
I
won't
get
into
litany
of
portables.
I
don't
plan
to
do
that,
but
just
the
aspect
of
we
have
to
be
in
control
of
that.
O
B
E
Offense
to
mr
olsen,
I
just
don't
want
to
get
to
a
situation
where
mr
olsen's
having
to
come
to
lectern
and
say
that
we
misstepped
on
on
a
procedure
right,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
this
language
change,
I
want
to
have
more
concrete
because
we're
basically
the
leading
edge
of
the
risk
right.
The
first,
the
first
pass
and
us
making
a
determination
of
a
developer
going
forward
is
going
to
be
this
determination
right
because
when
they
come,
if
they
want
a
land
use
change.
E
The
first
thing
that
we're
going
to
do
is
say:
hey,
oh
cps,
do
we
have
the
capacity
to
support
this
land
use
change
and
if
their,
if
their
comeback
is
to
say
this
is
going
to
create
x
amount
of
capacity
overage?
What's
our
next
step,
you
know,
because
we
could
sit
here
and
say
yeah.
We
approve
this
development,
we're
going
to
have
mr
olsen
and
in
the
world
coming
to
us
and
saying
well.
Why
did
you
do
that?
E
And
rightfully
so,
and
we
should
be
able
to
say
we
should
be
able
to
point
to
something
that
says
hey
if
it's
over
capacity
by
this
much.
We
feel
comfortable
making
this
decision
based
off
of
these
facts,
and
that's
that's
where
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
buttoned
up
there
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
make
those
right
decisions.
O
Matter,
rod
olson
again,
3156
rolling
hills
lane.
I
think
this
is
a
matter
it
can
be.
Ocps
has
a
formula
single-family
home
apartments
and
all
that
I
think
that
formula,
I'm
in
process
right
now
at
home
with
an
excel
spreadsheet.
So
anytime,
something
comes
forward.
It'll
tell
me:
we've
got
x
number
of
students
based
on
their
formula
and
I
think
that's
a
formula
that
we
should
be
using.
So
we
know
up
front
it's
going
to
be
two
students
or
22
students,
yep,
okay,.
E
E
Right
and
so
that's
that's
the
thing
where
a
dollar
value
is
not
associated
to
it's,
just
whether
or
not
we
feel
fundamentally,
are
we
okay
with
x
amount
of
over
capacity
in
our
schools,
knowing
that
ocps
is
going
to
have
to
pull
some
weight
to
make
sure
that
they
build
that
capacity
in
a
reasonable
amount
of
time?
That's
all
I'm
saying:
okay,.
E
C
H
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
city
commissioners,
phil
martinez,
planner
2,
with
the
city's
planning
division,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
small
scale.
Future
land
use
amendment
from
agriculture
to
industrial,
for
approximately
0.99
acres.
The
subject
property
is
highlighted
in
yellow
and
to
the
north,
east
and
south.
Our
retention
areas,
along
with
the
state
route
414
and
to
the
west,
are
the
former
nelson
and
sons
nurseries.
H
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
rezone
the
property
to
il
light
industrial
district
which
will
be
presented
at
the
next
agenda
item
and
the
proposed
industrial
future
land
use
is
compatible
with
the
previously
mentioned.
Il
zoning.
In
addition,
industrially
zoned
or
industrially
oriented
parcels
are
in
the
vicinity.
H
The
development
review
committee
and
planning
commission
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
small
scale
feature
landing.
Commitment
from
agriculture
to
industrial,
and
the
recommended
motion
for
this
afternoon
is
to
accept
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
2792
and
hold
it
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
on
october
21st
2020.
A
Any
questions
for
bill:
okay,
anybody
from
the
public!
We
should
speak
on
this
matter,
not
we'll
close.
The
public
hearing
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2792
at
first
reading
and
hold
it
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
becker,
all
those
in
favor.
D
H
Phil,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
rezoning
from
agriculture
districts
to
light
industrial
district
for
the
same
subject:
property
as
the
previous
agenda
item
and
the
proposed
il
or
light
industrial
zoning
is
compatible
with
the
previously
proposed
industrial
feature.
Land
use.
The
development
review
committee
and
planning
commission
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
rezoning
from
agriculture
to
light
industrial,
and
the
recommended
motion
for
this
afternoon
is
to
accept
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
2793
and
hold
it
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
on
october
21st
2020..
A
Came
by
from
public
wishes
speak
on
this
matter,
if
not
we'll
close,
the
public
hearing
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2793
at
first
reading
and
hold
it
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption.
Some
move
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
benson.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
becker,
all
those
in
favor
all.
K
Okay,
ordinance
number
2794,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171.044
the
here
and
after
described,
land
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
mid
florida,
freezer
properties,
llc
located
south
of
west
orange
blossom,
trail
and
west
of
lake
view,
road
providing
for
dev
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
A
H
H
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
annexation,
and
the
ex
recommended
motion
for
this
afternoon
is
to
accept
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
2794
and
hold
it
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
on
october
21st
2020.
This
concludes
my
presentation
and
the
applicant
and
are
available
for
any
questions
that
you
may
have
any.
A
Questions
for
phil
anybody
from
public.
We
should
speak
on
this
matter
if
not
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2794
at
first
reading
and
hold
it
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second
mike
mr
becker,
all
those
in
favor
aye
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
resolution.
D
C
P
P
Okay,
so
first
we'll
change
it
so
first,
we
just
wanted
to
give
a
brief
history
of
what
we've
been
working
on
in
procurement
for
the
last
two
years.
Since
I've
held
the
position
the
first
year,
our
main
focus
was
actually
to
concentrate
on
our
current
purchasing
policy
and
make
sure
that
all
of
our
staff
understood
the
policy
and
that
we
had
appropriate
levels
of
procedures
in
authorization.
P
P
So
in
our
data
and
research
we
started
what
was
required
any
florida
statutes
that
had
changed
for
threshold
purposes
or
any
florida.
Administrative
code
changes
that
needed
to
be
included.
Any
operational
functions
like
I'd
said
previously
that
just
weren't
working
any
longer
were
also
addressed,
and
then,
of
course,
we
reached
out
to
the
central
florida
area,
municipalities
just
to
see
what
their
policies
and
procedures
were
and
what
was
working
for
them.
On
the
language
we
held
the
four
cities
that
you
see
on
the
powerpoint
ocoee
lake,
mary
claremont
and
winter
garden.
P
That's
what
we
based
most
of
our
our
language
off
of
that
you'll,
see
in
the
policy
today,
no
particular
reason
other
than
we
put
that
we
preferred
how
they
wrote
it.
During
the
research
process,
we
found
that
the
thresholds
varied
based
on
multiple
items,
population
size,
the
budget
and
staffing
levels,
development
and
capital
projects.
P
P
We've
listed
here
everything
that
we've
added
changed
and
merged
for
the
document.
The
majority
of
the
editions
were
actually
addressing
requirements,
procedures,
authorization
and
control
functions
and
the
new
column
and
the
updated
section.
We
focused
on
operational
and
clarity
for
what
we
currently
held
in
the
policy
and
then
the
last
section.
We
had
two
policies
that
were
actually
individually
separated
for
procurement,
which
we
felt
were
best
addressed
actually
in
the
purchasing
policy
rather
than
by
themselves.
P
P
The
most
important
piece
to
our
threshold
increase
was
some
of
the
data
that
we
pulled
from
surrounding
cities,
so
you
can
see
on
the
screen
that
we
have
16
additional
cities
apopkas
the
second
from
the
left.
They
range
from
25
000,
formal
solicitation
threshold.
All
the
way
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
the
columns
in
the
yellow
are
actually
orange
county,
the
only
ones
that
we
didn't
include
orange
county
or
anyone
that
we
wouldn't
find
applicable
like
windermere
or
belle
isle,
just
because
they
weren't
in
comparison.
P
The
cities
that
are
listed
in
the
middle
are
at
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
threshold.
There
are
eleven
of
them.
You
can
see
two
to
the
left,
altamonte
springs
and
mount.
Dora
were
two
that
we
sampled
one
was
at
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
threshold
and
the
other
one
at
thirty
five
they're
actually
actively
seeking
to
increase
their
threshold
levels
as
well
to
fifty
thousand.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
support
there.
Data
wise
for
our
increase.
P
We're
asking
for
proposed
changes
in
the
threshold
dollar
amounts,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
briefly
go
over
what
our
current
policy
holds.
Our
department,
director,
purchasing
administrator
and
city
administrator
are
the
authorization
level
approval
approvers
for
each
level,
the
first
being
any
purchases
under
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
are
allowed
to
to
go
through
with
just
a
verbal
quote
and
proof
of
cost
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
to
twenty
four
thousand
nine
hundred.
P
What
we've
done
is
we've
mimicked
the
authorization
levels
that
you
see
on
the
proposed
section
and
we've
increased
the
levels
on
the
left
hand
side,
so
our
verbal
quotes
and
proof
of
cost
are
up
to
five
thousand
we've
added
a
level
for
two
written
quotes
for
five
thousand
to
fourteen
thousand
nine.
Ninety
nine
and
then
we've
also
had
the
three
written
quotes
from
fifteen
thousand
all
the
way
up
to
forty
nine
thousand
nine.
Ninety
nine,
our
formal
solicitation
level,
would
be
50
000
and
then,
of
course,
city
council
would
also
approve
that
level.
P
We
wanted
to
pull
some
data,
so
you
could
see
what
this
would
look
like
to
make
the
change
or
what
the
numbers
actually
look
like
from
a
standpoint
of
the
vendors
so
out
of
1201
vendors
that
we've
provided
payment
for
in
fiscal
year,
2020
on
the
left-hand
side,
you
can
see.
162
of
those
vendors
breached
the
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
annual
threshold.
P
If
you
look
on
the
right
hand,
side
for
proposed
policy,
you
can
see
that
five
percent
of
those
or
fifty
six
approximately
are
between
twenty
five
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
So
the
change
to
the
fifty
thousand
would
only
affect
approximately
five
percent
and
that's
about
fifty
six
vendors,
and
even
though
that
number
is
a
little
low.
If
you
take
into
consideration,
56
vendors
would
need
formal
solicitation
requirements.
You'd
have
to
advertise,
go
through
the
evaluation
process
where
appropriate
and
come
back
to
council.
So
you'd
be
talking
a
lot
of
times
saved
there.
P
Currently
in
our
policy,
we're
required
to
come
back
to
city
council
every
time
our
25
thousand
dollar
threshold
is
breached.
So
you
may
be
familiar
with
a
template
that
you
see
very
often
on
the
city
council
agenda,
where
we're
coming
to
ask
for
threshold
dollar
amounts
out
of
the
170
items
that
we
brought
to
council
in
this
last
fiscal
year.
Over
half
of
those
were
piggyback
contracts.
P
P
Our
change
order
amounts
changed
slightly
procedural,
wise
operational
change
orders
we
added
in
a
level
of
authorization
for
the
director
purchasing
administrator
and
the
finance
director
anything
below
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
and
that's
not
additional
dollar
amounts,
but
an
actual
total
purchase
order.
Dollar
amount
can
be
done
at
the
finance
department
level.
P
This
would
still
require
city
council
approval.
However,
the
city
administrator
would
hold
ten
percent
the
authority
to
have
ten
percent
increase
on
contractual
project
costs
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars.
Whichever
is
less,
we
actually
didn't
change
this
very
much
from
the
previous
policy
that
we
hold.
Now
we
took
a
slight
bit
of
the
language
out,
but
it's
very
similar
and
then
any
10
percent
increases
that
happen
above
that
dollar
threshold
would
have
to
come
back
to
city
council
for
further
approval.
P
B
I
I
love
it.
I
love
the
the
standards
for
it.
It
seems
that
it's
tightening
up
a
lot
of
loose
ends,
and
is
this
going
to
be
any
kind
of
a
learning
curve
for
how
different
things
are
procured
through
different
departments?
Are
there
different
ones
that
are
going
to
have
to
change
a
lot
of
their
habits
or
add
or
be
held
a
little
tighter
to
good
habits,
because
I
think
that's
key,
especially
as
we
continue
to
grow?
This
is
real
key.
P
E
I
was
gonna,
I
was
gonna
say
you
know
when
you,
when
you
listen
to
sports
talk
radio
when
someone
calls
in
and
has
a
good
take,
they
say
racket,
you
know,
so
they
can
come
back
to
it.
This
is
like
the
gold
standard
of
presentations
that
I've
seen
thus
far
during
my
time
here.
So
the
presentation
is
just
excellent.
E
It's
just
well
laid
out
and
easy
to
consume,
but
equally
important
is
the
substance
right
I
mean
just
the
benchmarking
that
was
done.
I
did
a
little
bit
myself
and
you
know
it's.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
go
to
orlando
right
for
100k,
but
you
know
it
seems
like
it's
all
in
line
with
what
other
municipalities
are
doing
so
kudos
to
you
and
your
team
for
putting
together
a
good,
sound
policy
and
presentation
to
articulate
it.
So
thank.
P
A
The
we
you
know
by
raising
the
the
bar
we
obviously
a
lot
of
these
contracts
won't
require
a
full
rfp,
but
in
in
the
balance
of
that
was
we've
got
better
procedures
in
place
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
we're
dotting
all
our
eyes
and
crossed
our
teeth.
So
kind
of
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
it
takes
to
get
something
through
the
process.
P
Yeah
sure
so
on
average
any
one
solicitation
can
take
between
30
and
90
days
and
that's
from
the
inception
of
creating
the
actual
scope
of
services
getting
it
advertised
and
then
also
monitoring
all
the
paperwork
that
goes
in
between.
So
once
we
receive
submittals
back
from
the
advertisement
depending
on
what
type
of
solicitation
it
is.
We
have
to
review
those
documents.
If
it's
an
evaluation
committee,
we
have
to
post
what
the
dates
are
to
get
the
committee
back
together
discuss
any
items.
P
Recently,
we've
had
a
few
that
the
committee
needed
clarification,
so
you
have
to
coordinate
back
and
forth
with
the
vendor
for
clarification,
questions
or
more
information
so
that
they
can
determine
the
best
decision
moving
forward.
You
then
have
to
post
on
our
procurement
platform
what
you're
doing
at
all
times
pretty
much
and
make
sure
that
everybody
is
aware
of
the
same
information.
P
There's
the
cone
of
silence
that
only
allows
you
to
speak
in
a
public
forum.
We've
been
doing
a
lot
of
that
processing
through
a
video
conference
and
then
the
requirement
of
coming
back
to
city
council
and
then
thereafter,
once
it's
approved,
we're
in
charge
of
making
sure
that
the
contract
actually
goes
through.
P
So
we
create
the
contracts
we
work
with
the
city
attorney
to
do
so,
and
then
we
go
back
and
forth
with
making
sure
that
all
the
insurance
and
everything
is
executed
before
any
of
the
projects
or
procurement
can
actually
start
so,
like
I
said,
any
one
solicitation
can
be
within
that
time
frame
and
if
you're
looking
at
that
that
we
we're
actually
able
to
get
you
know
in
any
given
month.
Maybe
three
to
four
out
is
a
large
amount
of
solicitations,
even
though
it
doesn't
look
like
it
from
the
other
side.
Q
Yeah,
I
would
like
that
bad
one
being
there
jamie
roberson
finance
director
on
average,
like
when
we
called
around
and
checked
with
other
municipalities
when
they
have
a
person,
that's
only
doing
rfps
or
bids
or
or
for
competitive
processing.
They
average
on
average
about
two
per
month
and
that's
when
the
person
is
only
doing
rfps
and
bids.
Please
keep
in
mind
that
jessica
is
one
person
and
she
does
other
duties
as
well,
so
we're
hoping
that
this
policy
allows
us
that
flexibility
to
enhance
and
strengthen
those
procurement
areas.
Q
We
also
have
giselle,
who
was
an
intricate
part
of
putting
this
policy
together,
who
we,
who
is
the
independent
contractor
that
you
guys
approved
in
our
budget
that
helps
us
do
those
types
of
things
as
well.
But
again,
it
is
a
collective
effort
amongst
several
of
us
within
finance
to
accomplish
those
we've
been
relatively
busy
the
last
month
and
a
half
with
all
the
solicitations
that
y'all
have
approved
and
awarded
since
the
beginning
of
august.
So.
E
It
says
it
shall
be
prohibited
for
any
city
employee
to
order
the
purchase
of
enter
or
make
any
contract
for
materials
supplies
and
services
within
the
purchasing
approval,
limit
of
the
purchasing
administrator
city,
administrator
or
designee
or
city
council
that
it
seems
like
a
contradictory
kind
of
sentence
to
me.
I
don't
know.
E
So
I'm
trying
to
where
my
michael
attorney
hat
so
because
all
of
those
positions
are
technically
city
employees
right.
So
if
we're
gonna
draw
a
distinction
between
a
regular
city,
employee
and
a
named
titled
person,
I
just
wanna.
I
just
wanna
make
sure
that
we're
covered
from
a
legal
perspective.
That's
it
if
you
think
it's
written.
N
A
B
F
A
Q
Good
afternoon,
commissioners
mayor
this
is
jamie
roberson
finance
director,
so
the
first
budget
amendment
that
you
have
before
you
is
actually
to
make
the
appropriations
for
the
additional
increase
in
the
ralph
telus
contract,
and
this
is
coming
from
the
2020
fiscal
year
and
not
the
2021
fiscal
year.
So
there
there
was
a
little
bit
of
change
order
involved
and
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
their
original
proposal,
because
we
had
a
five
percent
contingency
built
into
the
previous
proposal.
For
that.
A
Okay,
any
questions
for
jamie
anybody
from
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter.
That
will
close
the
public
hearing.
Look
for
a
motion
to
approve
resolution.
2020-32
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second
bike.
Mr
becker,
all
those
in
favor,
aye,
aye
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
resolution.
2020-33.
K
Q
Budget
amendment
is
for
fiscal
year
2021.
It
was
an
item
that
was
on
the
consent
agenda
for
a
grant.
It
is
an
amendment
that
is
recognizing
the
award
of
the
grant
proceeds
from
the
memorial,
the
edward
byrne,
memorial
justice
assistance
grant
for
the
police
department
and
recognizing
the
appropriate
expenditure.
A
Okay,
all
right.
Anybody
from
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter,
and
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
Look
for
a
motion
to
approve
resolution.
2020-33
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
bankston.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
becker,
all
those
in
favor
aye
aye
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
start
on
this
end,
commissioner
becker
city
council
reports,
I'm
good
good.
Commissioner
smith,.
N
B
B
G
G
G
Reduction,
the
loss
for
shortfall.
So
if
you
look
down
one
of
the
things,
I
really
I
want
to
point
out
that
I
think
that
that
we
need
to
continue
to
watch
and
continue
to
be
aware.
If
you
look
here,
we
had
anticipated
or
projected
that
we
would
have
about
a
25
reduction
on
the
collections
in
the
month
of
september.
G
I
think
some
of
that
is
due
to
the
revenue
sharing
calculation.
If
you
recall
back
here,
they
made
some
adjustments
to
the
revenue
sharing
calculation,
so
some
of
that's
there,
but,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
when
we
get
october's
revenue
collections,
which
will
be
in
our
new
fiscal
year.
That'll
start
our,
which
will
be
august
activity,
but
we'll
receive
it
in
october
to
keep
in
mind
that
the
numbers
you
know
the
projections
that
they
gave
us
we're.
Not.
G
I
think
we
just
need
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
may
not
it's
not
come
back
to
to
that
level
yet
so
I
think
just
we
and
we'll
continue
to
monitor.
I
think
you
know
it's.
We
continue
to
monitor,
monitor
this
and
see
where
we
fall,
but
I
just
I
think
it's
just
important
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
that
we
had
about
a
17
reduction
is
what
they
ended
up
with
telling
us
for
fiscal
year
21,
but
I
think
we
need
to
watch
that
just
to
pay
attention.
G
So
with
that
in
mind,
you'll
see
down
here
in
the
other
collections
that
we've
had
we've
got
about
almost
400
000
reduction
in
our
recreation
impact
fees.
I
mean
our
recreation
program
fees,
keep
in
mind,
so
there's
some
expenses
that
will
offset
with
that.
We
didn't
have
some
of
those
expenses
because
we
didn't
have
those
programs
so
that
that's
the
revenue
loss,
we'll
know
all
of
the
the
the
expenditures
and
everything
once
jamie
closes
the
year
and
post
back
the
expenses
so
about.
G
I
would
say
in
about
probably
two
three
weeks:
we'll
have
a
little
better
picture
of
kind
of
where
we
are.
I
will
tell
you
that
I
I
I
don't
want
to
say
that
we're
break
even
I
don't
want
to
say
that
we're
positive,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
it
will
be
a
good
place
and
when
I
say
that
is,
I
feel
comfortable
that
I
think
we'll
be
in
the
black.
Considering.
G
So
I
think
you
know
it's.
A
lot
of
the
credit
belongs
to
them,
because
they've
worked
really
really
hard.
We
didn't
sacrifice
services,
we
continue
to
provide
our
same
service
level
and
good
services,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
be.
I
think
the
outcome
will
be
good
for
us
in
the
next
probably
month
or
so
we'll
know
exactly
like.
G
I
said:
we've
got
things
to
post
back,
there's
still
a
few
revenues
to
post
back,
there's
expenses,
as
you
know
they
come
in
later,
but
they
we've
received
the
items,
but
we
don't
pay
for
them
until
the
until
the
month
of
october
and
some
of
them
in
november.
So
that's
kind
of
some
positive
news.
I
guess
with
a
negative
shortfall.
G
So
the
other
question,
the
other
issue
that
I
have
or
that
the
item
that
I
want
to
bring
up
and
I've
been
working.
I've
been
we've
been
looking
through
our
utility
accounts
and,
as
you
know,
back
in
march
april,
we
stopped
disconnects.
We
weren't
disconnecting
water
and
sewer,
and
then
we
weren't
charging
late
fees,
so
we
haven't
been
charged
in
late
fees
and
we
haven't
been
disconnected
had
any
disconnects
since
april.
G
G
Again,
it's
approaching
nine
now
so
we're
gonna
have
to.
I
think
that
you
know
it's
it's
time
that
we're
gonna
have
to
to
look
at
what
we're
going
to
do
with
our
disconnects
and
our
late
fees.
I
do.
I
do
want
to
say
one
thing
based
on
the
timing,
based
on
your
wishes
of
when
you
think
we
should
start
that
back.
G
I
think
we
what
we,
what
we
should
do
is
give
a
30-day
notice
notice,
everybody
30
days
that
it's
coming,
that
a
disconnect
could
be
coming
give
them
time
because
we
have
payment
arrangements.
There
are
other
things
jamie.
I
talked
to
jamie
this
morning
that
we
can
look
for
to
maybe
to
kind
of
help
for
those
who
need
help.
Look,
you
know,
try
to
give
them
put
them
in
the
right
direction
for
some
help
with
utility
bills.
The
county
has
some
programs
and
there's
some
other
things.
G
So
I
think
if
we
give,
if
we
give
folks
that
notice
of
30
days
to
allow
them
to
come-
and
let's
let
us
work
with
those
individuals
that
need
that
assistance,
we
can
do
that
and
then
do
the
disconnects
after
that
30-day
notice,
and
then
I
I
would
personally
my
opinion
would
be
that
we
wouldn't
start
late
fees
until
january
1
on
the
accounts
to
give
them
time
to
to
make
these
payments
and
and
try
to
get
caught
up
on
a
payment
plan
or
whatever.
That
may
be.
G
So
that's
one
scenario,
but
I
wanted
you
to
know
that
we're
sitting
at
about
nine
percent
we're
at
one
percent.
We
were
nine
percent,
so
we
probably
need
to
you
know,
address
the
disconnects
and
the
late
fees,
but
but
I
think
we
should
give
pretty
plenty
notice,
and
I
will
tell
you
so
you
might
ask
how
many
accounts,
that
is,
it's
about
1700
count,
1700
accounts
that
would
be
subject
to
the
disconnect
granted.
G
G
Could
it
could
be
in
this
number?
It
could
be.
We
have
we
do
it
could
be
in
this
number
and
there's.
There
are
other
accounts
that
are
that
could
have
those
past
two
balances
that
we
would
have
payment
arrangements
on.
We
could
have
some
payment
arrangements
on
some
of
those
customers
that
have
balances
that
are
way
back.
We
have
some
accounts
that
we're
going
to
that
will
go
into
collections.
G
We
do
have
some
accounts
outstanding
and
these
receivables
that,
as
you
know,
we
brought
recently
a
piggyback
to
do
collections
for
those
those
are
people
who
have
left
the
city
that
we
want
to
go
after
through
the
collections
process.
But
this
this
this
this
dollar
amount
is
our
sign.
These
are
our
current
customers
that
are
on
that
have
a
30
or
60
day
overdue.
F
G
Would
get
their
monthly
bill?
We
have
not
been
charging
late
fees,
so
they
wouldn't
see
they
wouldn't
have
a
late
fee
charge,
but
they
would
have
whatever
their
prior
balances
are,
and
there
is
a
notice
on
our
bill
that
says
they
are
subject
to
disconnect.
If
you,
if
you
don't,
but
have
we
actually
specifically
reached
out
to
every
one
of
them,
no,
not
directly.
B
C
Q
Instead,
so-
and
in
fact,
the
the
program
that
kurt
provided
to
me
is
for
power
bills
only
and
not
water
bills,
that
edward
was
referencing
earlier,
so
we
haven't
found
anything
specific
that
qualifies
for,
like
our
utility
bill
to
to
help
with
those
payments.
So
the
best
option
I
have
is
they
need
to
come
in
and
try
to
do
a
payment
arrangement
with
us.
We
have
seen
an
uptick
in
payment
arrangements
because
I
believe
people
are
realizing
that
most
other
agencies
have
went
through.
Q
For
example,
tremaine
told
me
this
yesterday
that
she
has
eight
payment
arrangements,
six
to
eight
payment
arrangements,
waiting
for
my
approval
to
to
approve
so
that
they
can
be
a
part
of
their
regular
bill.
So
what
we
ask
is
that,
if
you're
unable
to
pay
your
bill,
try
to
please
come
in
and
see
us
so
that
we
can
make
those
payment
arrangements
so
that
we
can
do
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
financially
and
for
the
customer.
Q
It
has
not
come
out
yet.
Okay,
that'll
be
a
part
of
the
decision.
Today
we
were
planning
to
have
an
insert
in
the
bill.
That's
a
different
color
that
addresses
cutoffs
and
and
late
fees,
and
then
any
customer
that
has
that
would
be
subject
to
disconnection
will
get
a
courtesy
reminder
like
we
would
normally
do
when
we
were
doing
disconnects.
They
get
a
courtesy
reminder
prior
to
us,
disconnecting
them.
E
I
mean
I
fully
agree
with
giving
some
some
runway
and
some
heads
up
but
again
think
about
where
we're
at
right
now
we're
almost
to
mid-october.
By
the
time
you
give
30
days
notice.
What
does
that
get
into
it's
holiday
season
and
what
I
don't
want
to
have
happen
is
we
all
of
a
sudden,
shut
off
power
on
thanksgiving
day
or
christmas
eve,
something
like
that.
You
know
just
the
optics
of
that.
Just
don't
look
good,
commissioner.
G
We
do,
I
will
say
this:
we've
always
had
a
policy
and
I
and
I
think,
if
we
don't,
we
need
to
be
sticking
to
this
because
we
used
to
do
this
in
the
past.
We
don't
cut
off
on
fridays
and
we
don't
cut
off
on
holidays,
so
we
would
not
cut
off
on
a
weekend
and
we
would
not
cut
off
on
a
holiday
after
the
holiday.
We
would
cut
off
and
of
course,
on
a
monday
we
would
cut
off.
We've
always
had
that
practice
not
cut
off
on
a
weekend
or
a
holiday
okay.
G
In
we'll,
we've
got
a
good
payment
arrangements
now
we'll
work
with
them.
We've
spread
payments
out,
we're
just
saying
that
we've
got
to
start
getting
some
of
those.
Those
accounts
have
got
to
start
getting
some
payments
on
those
accounts
or
they're
going
to
get
bigger
and
they're
going
to
they're
going
to
get.
A
G
G
I
know
that
we've
had
some
of
our
customers
that
we've
we've
sent
to
a
couple
non-profits
and
some
churches-
and
I
can't
remember
which
ones,
but
we
probably
need
to
look
at
that
too,
if
you,
if
you
know
some
of
those
or
whatever,
maybe
you
could
share
that
with
us
and
we
can
share
that
with
some
of
our
citizens
as
well.
But
we've
had
that
in
the
past
I
have
had
some
non-profits
that
have
provided
they
have
some
kind
of
an
assistance
program
that
can
help
with
with
water
utilities.
B
G
G
So
we'll
provide
notice,
we've
already
done
our
first
billing
cycle
in
october.
So
we'll
start
with
our
second
billing
cycle
in
october,
which
is
tomorrow
so
we'll
do
30
days
from
the
8th
so
november,
the
8th
will
notice
from
from
october
the
8th
to
november,
the
8th
will
notice
everybody
with
the
insert
and
the
bill.
So
they
know
and
then
november
the
9th
you
will
be
subject
to
disconnects.
We
will
not
disconnect
on
the
weekends
or
on
a
holiday,
and
then
you
will
not
be
subject
to
a
late
fee
until
january
1.
G
Q
Since
tremaine
has
come
on
board,
we
have
implemented
a
new
process
for
the
payment
plans
for
the
accounts
that
are
on
payment
plans.
During
the
audit
for
2019,
we
discovered
that
there
was
no
mechanism
being
utilized
in
the
utility
billing
system
for
accounts
that
were
on
payment
plans,
and
there
is
a
way
to
do
that.
So
now
the
payment
plans
apply
to
their
bill,
so
whatever
their
current
bill
is
due,
say
they
have
a
50
payment
planned
arrangement.
D
F
A
N
A
So
done
a
great
job
for
us
here
at
the
city,
and
you
know,
as
linda's
is
retired,
and
only
helping
us
now
with
through
the
special
election,
but
susan's
been
taking
it
up
and
running
everything
and
including
some
of
the
things.
That's
that
linda,
would
have
done,
and
so
she's
done
a
marvelous
job
and
so
she's
up
for
for
the
city,
clerk's
job
and
we're
just
looking
for
approval
from
the
city
council.
E
The
special
election
semi
tough,
so
it's
it's
funny
right.
So
when
when
when
jeff
started,
it's
like
my
email
inbox
blew
up
with
public
service's
request,
it
just
seemed
to
be
a
bunch
and
on
the
flip
side
of
that
you
know
really
our
my
only
engagement
with
the
clerks
is
really
you
know
during
public
records
requests,
or
you
know
during
our
meetings
here
and
stuff
like
that,
but
similar
to
jeff.
E
What's
in
the
backlog
of
what
maybe
is
requested
by
our
residents
or
whoever
else
is
requesting
public
records
just
so
that
we
understand
the
timing
and
the
pacing
or
when
those
people
can
expect
it,
because
that's
the
biggest
question
that
I
get
asked
is:
when
can
I
get
it?
I've
asked
for
this:
when
can
I
get
it?
So?
Just
that
sort
of
dialogue
is
what
I'm
interested
in.
D
A
A
As
you
know
in
in
your
because
she
has
the
initial
response
which
she
does
within
24
hours,
maybe
you
could
say
if
it's,
if
it's
an
email
from
you
know
me
to
you
or
whatever,
then
you
could
say
you
know,
I
can
have
that
you
know
relatively
quickly,
but
if
it's,
if
it's
a
record,
if
it's
a,
if
it's
a
public
services
record
about
a
you,
know
a
water
line,
you
know
that
we
we
put
in
the
ground
in
1987,
then
that's
going
to
be
a
little
more
challenging
but
yeah.
I
think
we
could.
B
Yeah
I'll
echo
that
and
again
I
think,
with,
as
commissioner
becker
said,
a
lot
of
the
the
requests
on
top
of
the
special
election
all
at
the
same
time,
and
so,
like
I
said,
trial
by
fire,
but
you've
always
been
a
pleasure
to
have
interaction
with
you
know
in
the
office
and
whatnot.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
on
board.
C
A
By
commissioner
smith,
all
those
in
favor
hi
all
opposed
motion
carries
another
sleep.
Cool
all
right.
You've
got
the
updates
on
coronavirus
with
you,
it's
it's
it's.
It's
got
a
little
bit
of
a
trend
upwards.
I
you
know
I
I
quit
trying
to
figure
out
what
this
all
means,
but
you've
got
the
numbers
there
in
front
of
you
next
up.
A
I
know:
we've
everybody's
been
getting
emails
about
flooding
in
apopka
in
multiple
locations,
so
it's
a
little
more
complicated,
put
together
a
presentation,
so
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
on
november
4th
jeff
and
his
team
going
to
come
back
to
us.
I
mean
I
give
you
the
couple.
The
main
issues
we're
facing
one
is
sheila
oakes
lake
hammer
and
then
the
the
area
around
hobby
lobby
and
and
border
lake
and
lake
cortez
lake
banks
and
the
problem
with
that
I
mean
lake
hammer
is
all
us,
that's
100,
apopka.
A
You
know
no
questions
with
this
one
we're
we're
not
getting
a
lot
of
of
help
or
you
know
consideration
from
d.o.t
from
seminole,
county
and
orange
county,
because
I
think
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
joint
problem
and
a
joint
solution,
because
it's
both
of
those
solutions
are
going
to
be
expensive.
Whatever
we
do
are
going
to
be
expensive,
but
we've
also
had
some
other
areas
where
we've
got
some
flooding.
A
Obviously
we
one
of
the
first
things
we
want
to
start
out.
The
discussion
is
how
much
rain
we
had
how's
that
relate
to
you
know
to
2004
2006
when
we
had
some
of
this
hurricane.
So
we
know
kind
of
our
baseline
and
is
this
an
aberration?
Or
is
this
a
trend,
and
so
he's
gonna
go
through
the
whole
process
and
kind
of
get
us
to
where
you
know
we
we
start
to
look
at
solutions
which
will
be
expensive
so.
C
B
A
Okay,
orange
county
it's
already
over,
but
I
thought
at
least
let
you
know
that
orange
county
did
the
kova
testing
out
at
kelly
park,
which
is
interesting
because
you
know
it's
closed.
They
did
it
from
8
a.m.
This
morning,
until
1
pm,
we
did
put
out
a
it
was
in
the
newsletter
last
or
yesterday,
so
they
so
that's
another
reason
for
people
we've
only
got
about.
I
think
400
people
that
are
signing
up
for
the
weekly
newsletter.
A
So
if
you've
got
people
out
there
that
want
to
be
in
the
know
on
on
things
that
are
happening.
You
know
please
sign
up
for
that
weekly
newsletter,
because
certain
things
we
can't
you
know
it's
it's
too
quick
to
turn
around
for
the
monthly
newsletter,
so
suggest
everybody
out
there.
You
know
sign
up
for
the
city
of
apopka
weekly
newsletter.
A
A
Just
so
you
know,
all
of
our
athletic
programs
are
up
and
running
full
and
we're,
I
think,
seven
to
eight
seventy
to
eighty
percent.
You
know
at
normal
capacity,
so
here's
what
we're.
As
you
know,
farmer's
market
is
running
weekly.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
for
we
do
our
normally
do
our
tree
lighting
we're
going
to
do
it
in
conjunction
with
the
farmer's
market
on
december,
the
3rd.
A
A
I
think
one
of
the
things
I've
seen
at
one
of
the
other
cities
that
they
they
limited
or
they
eliminated
any
of
the
the
street
vendors
to
try
to
because
well
that'd
be
the
worst
thing
you
have
some
street
vendor
that
had
coveted
and
going
down.
You
know
all
the
way
down
park
avenue,
so
we're
going
to
try
to
we'll
try
to
do
our
best
to
social
distance.
A
You
know
we're
even
even
thinking
about
maybe
stretching
the
parade
out
a
little
farther,
maybe
go
to
dream
lake
another
street
or
two
and
try
to
get
people
not
as
bunched
up.
So
we
can
so
we're
going
to
try
to
do
what
we
can
to
to
make
this,
as,
as
you
know,
safe
as
possible
for
for
those
that
are
that
are
going
to
participate
and
what's
the
date
on
that
again,
that's
12
12..
A
A
Yeah
they
did,
they
did
an
amazing
job.
Yes,
okay,
so
what
we're
we're
planning
on
doing
at
this
point?
Let's
y'all
have
a
you
know.
A
different
opinion
is
all
concerts
and
events
will
start
to
resume
in
january.
Obviously
we
can
always
pull
that
back.
You
know.
One
thing
we
were
just
getting
started
was
that
weekly
our
weekly
concerts
and
so
we'd
like
to
start
back
in
january.
If
everything
is,
you
know,
still
moving
the
right
direction.
A
So
the
indoor
programs
youth
are
participating
in
launch
ed.
You
know
still
at
our
center
at
fran
carlton
educational
programs
in
a
very
limited
capacity.
So
here's
the
big
one
seniors.
I
know,
commissioner
smith,
because
you're
the
most
senior
on
this,
this
council
thought
so
it's
probably
more
important
to
you.
But
yes,
thank
you.
A
A
A
Yeah
then
we're
gonna
kind
of
interesting.
We
got,
we
got
reach
somebody
reached
out
to
us
about
doing
a
shredding
event.
I
guess
it's
popular
winter,
park's
done
one
and
and
winter
garden
has
done
one
very
popular.
You
just
bring
your
your
your
financial
documents.
You
want
shredded,
so
we're
we're
working
with
waste
management
to
put
together
a
shredding
event
with
the
the
november
19th
farmer's
market.
A
So
what
you
would
do
is
you'd
come
down
first,
going
east
on
first
street
and
pull
into
to
edwards
field
and
then
put
your
records
in
you.
Could
you
can
actually
see
them
being
shredded?
So
there's
no
no
question
and
then
so
it's
it's
fully
very
popular
and
and
we're
going
to
probably
end
up
doing
also
a
plastic
bags.
The
plastic
bags.
You
know
which
we're
recycling
at
apopka
elementary
add
that
and
we're
if
we
can
add
something
else
like
an
electronics
recycling
or
something
else.