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Description
Apopka City Council Budget Workshop for Fiscal Year 2022/2023 at City Hall on July 27, 2022 at 5 PM.
This third budget workshop will cover all other City of Apopka departments. To view the meeting agenda visit: https://www.apopka.gov/agenda. To view the tentative City Budget visit: https://www.apopka.gov/budget.
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A
We'll
call
the
city
council
budget
workshop
to
order.
Commissioner
smith,
would
you
give
us
a
prayer
and
pledge.
B
C
Thank
you
for
being
a
blessing
for
this,
the
city
of
as
we
now
prepare
for
this
great
workshop.
We
ask
for
the
father
to
continue
to
bless
that
you
deal
with
the
two
fish
and
the
five
loaves
of
bread
for
him
and
values
our
substance
in
order
we
may
be
to
supply
all
the
needs
of
our
city
bless
her
father
and
city
council.
As
mayor
continued
leaving
goddess
of
all
them,
we
shall
do
be
pleasing
and
acceptable
in
your
sight.
In
our
son,
jesus
name,
we
pray.
D
A
D
D
All
right,
commissioner,
so
hopefully
you
can
understand
me
if
you
don't,
please,
you
know,
stop
me
or
whatever,
but
I'll
try
to
go
slow
and
try
to
articulate
the
best
I
can,
but
so
the
first
budget
will
go
over
is
the
mayor's.
E
D
The
mayor's
budget
class
of
commissioners,
as
well
as
the
mayor,
his
assistant
and
then
the
receptionist
as
well,
so
the
only
there's
not
much
of
an
increase
in
personnel
small
increase
in
personnel-
that's
due
to,
as
you
know,
your
salaries
as
commissioners
set
by
ordinance
by
population.
D
So
there
is
an
increase
in
population,
so
you
will
see
an
increase,
there's
an
increase
in
calculating
into
your
your
salaries
as
your
as
well.
So
that's
in
here
the
operating
costs
or
expenses
that
you
see,
there's
a
big
increase
of
20
percent.
Here
that
increase
is
this
year,
we've
elected
to
put
additional
seven
thousand
dollars
in
each
one
of
your
discretionary
accounts,
so
you'll
each
have
ten
thousand
dollars
in
each
one
of
your
discretionary
accounts
for
for
fy
23.
F
D
And
that
was
one
of
the
areas
we
as
staff
would
look
at
or
whatever
and
determine
hey.
That's
a
good
place
for
you
guys
to
have
some
discretionary
incomes
or
so
you
can
expenses.
So
you
can,
you
know,
help
more
of
those
non-profits
or
whatever.
So
we've
increased
that
from
two
thousand
to
seven
thousand
okay,
I
mean.
D
D
Perfect
administrative
services
budget-
that's
my
budget,
there's
not
much
to
report
at
all.
It's
gone
down.
Eight
percent,
not
a
whole
lot
in
this
budget.
The
only
decrease
you
see
in
this
budget
is
due
to
the
biggest
increase
of
decreases
operating
expenses
and
what
happened
was
in
my
budget.
I
had
trainer
training
for
leadership.
Last
year
this
year
we
have
moved
that
money
to
hr,
so
hr
can
be
responsible
for
the
actual
training
of
the
whole
series.
So
that's
where
that's
the
only
difference
here.
No
difference.
G
For
the
legal
department
has
not
significantly
changed,
the
anticipated
increase
is
basically
related
not
to
anything
related
to
actual
operations
of
the
legal
department,
but
is
our
increase
in
premiums
for
the
liability
and
casualty
insurance?
As
some
of
you
may
be
aware,
the
risk
management
department
is
folded
into
the
city
attorney's
office.
G
I
think
the
anticipated
increase
in
printer
usage
costs
is
only
because
the
legal
department
splits
those
costs
with
hr,
but
I
believe
hr
may
actually
now
be
owning
the
printer,
so
those
costs
relating
to
the
rental
that
was
with
last
year
may
actually
drop,
but
our
personnel
costs
actually
from
last
year
to
this
year,
have
dropped
by
two
percent.
H
G
No,
my
again,
my
legal
time
is
covered.
I
do
not
charge
hourly
and
then
the
only
case
where
we
do
have
outside
counsel
is
brought
in.
Actually
that
was
a
claim
was
placed
with
our
the
our
carrier,
so
we
have
insurance
council
who's
carrying
those
costs
of
those
fall
under
our
liability,
insurance,
understood
and.
G
Really
that
that
goes
par
for
the
course
not
just
for
our
the
one.
If,
if
you're
alluding
to
the
southwick
commons
litigation,
that's
really
only
our
one
litigation
that
is
not
related
to,
because
folded
up
in
those
costs
are
all
the
workers
comp
litigations
all
the
personal
injury
case,
those
go
into
our
insurance
pool
and
are
covered
by
insurance
council.
That
claim
falls
in
there
as
well.
There
is
no
separate
the
legal
department.
I
do
have
the
authority
to
appoint
outside
counsel
to
assist
in
any
matters.
G
G
A
About
outside
counseling,
who
else
we
got,
I
guess,
okay,
susan.
I
A
I
Yeah
so
okay,
thank
you
and
so
and
then
so
we
had
minor
increases.
We
had
little
bit
of
publishing
and
training
costs
were
a
total
of
6300,
so
we
do
have
a
new
girl
starting.
Her
name
is
gail
jackson,
we're
hoping
to
start
her.
On
august,
the
8th.
J
Good
afternoon
council
and
mayor
finance,
department
and
utility
billing
so
I'll
be
presenting
both
for
the
budget
for
finance
department.
We
had
an
overall
increase
of
52
percent
and
I'll
explain
on
detail
for
the
salaries
and
for
the
operations
for
the
salary
salary
line.
We
have
an
over
budget
of
41,
which
is
338
000
above
what
we
have.
The
first
part
of
these
was
in
2022
in
order
to
have
a
retention,
keep
up
with
the
market
included
promotions,
including
revamping
our
department,
which
has
done
this
wonderful
job.
J
With
these
budgets
that
we
spend
60
plus
thousand
dollars
in
november.
We
have
to
retain
some
employees
and
we
actually
hire
an
employee
from
orange
county
that
works
for
procurement
department
and
she
came
on
board
to
help
with
the
budgets.
So
the
increase
just
for
that
portion
of
it
includes
a
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
J
That
money
came
in
with
the
assistant
of
my
fellow
peers.
The
director
of
the
chief
from
the
police
led
me
one
of
his
positions
during
the
year
and
the
fire
department
led
me
25
000,
so
that
first
portion
came
in
from
other
departments
that
they
haven't
hired
in
order
to
be
able
to
hire
and
retain
some
of
our
staff.
That
was
the
first
part,
and
so
we
hire
a
financial
analyst
who
works
from
procurement
now
to
support
our
system.
J
The
second
portion
is
a
new
request,
which
is
for
2023
of
a
hundred
and
forty
two
thousand
dollars,
and
that
is
to
hire
an
accountant,
one
and
a
clerk,
and
I
explained
the
reason
why,
last
year,
as
you
know,
we
actually
deleted
a
position
for
a
clerk
and
those
duties
were
moved
to
some
of
our
current
staff,
which
are
accountants
and,
as
the
year
went
by,
we
noticed
that
our
accountants,
who
are
high
level
pay
people,
are
doing
clerical
job.
That
makes
no
sense.
J
So
what
happens
is
the
jobs
that
the
accountants
need
to
do
is
dump
on
the
finance
director
or
the
procurement
department?
So
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
normal
process.
We
did
a
mini
study
with
other
cities
and
we
realized
we
really
need
a
clerk,
a
position
clerk
and
we
need
an
accountant
want
to
remove
those
positions
for
the
accountant,
so
they
can
do
more
analysis
and
the
hardcore
work
that
we
need.
So
those
are
the
two
positions
we're
requesting.
J
The
reason
is
143
000,
for
that
is
because
we're
adding
the
benefits
I
mean
their
salaries
are
low,
but
the
benefits
are
always
a
little
higher,
so
that
is
the
41
on
the
salary
line
for
the
operations
it
is
87,
but
I
explain
why
228
000
is
the
value
on
the
3400
line,
which
is
other
control.
Actual
services
is
over
sixteen
thousand
dollars.
J
We
have
to
increase
our
merchant
services
for
credit
card,
as
people
are
using
more
online,
so
we
have
to
increase
that
by
ten
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
and
we
have
to
increase
our
apopka
youth
works
because
they
came
back
and
they're
going
to
probably
increase
our
contract
from
35
000
to
40
000..
So
we
have
to
put
five
thousand
dollars
more
in
that
line
in
the
4009,
because
we
hire
two
new
staff.
We
have
to
pay
for
the
association
of
procurement.
J
In
the
forty
six
hundred
line
we
reduced
by
sixty
thousand
eight
hundred,
and
that
was
the
budget
software
that
you
are
using
right
now
we
bought
it
last
year.
We
don't
need
it
this
year,
so
we
took
that
our
line
and
then
the
biggest
line
that
increased
that
87
percent
is
our
250
000
line
that
we
put
for
grant.
That
is
our
matching
grant
that
we
have
in
there
every
year
we
put
250
so
when
they
asking
for
matching,
we
have
250
and
it's
always
been
on
finance.
J
The
next
line
is
the
operating
supplies
and
we
have
to
increase
for
21
600..
So
with
more
staff,
we
need
more
space
and
we
don't
have
enough
space
across
the
street
if
you've
been
in
our
office
right
now,
we
have
two
accountants
in
one
office:
that's
not
safety!
For
us,
so
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish?
If
any
of
you
have
been
in
procurement
office,
we
have
like
an
l
desk
where
we
can
seat
two
staff
more
comfortable.
J
We
did
some
quotes
and
to
do
desk
furniture
for
those
six
offices
and
we
compare
prices,
it
costs
fifteen
thousand
dollars
and
then
we
have
moved
from
fifty
four
hundred
line
reduced
by
five
thousand
because
we
move
it
to
that
line
during
the
year.
So
we
just
budget
on
the
correct
line
now.
So
that's
why
you
have
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
and
then
last
but
not
least,
which
is
not
much.
J
It
was
an
additional
training
for
1600
on
the
line
5500
for
750
for
an
additional
grand
training
and
another
one
for
the
national
institute
of
procurement
to
send
another
staff
for
training.
So
that
is
basically
the
whole
increase,
our
major
one
being
the
new
staff
that
we're
requesting
and
the
250
000
grant
for
finance.
J
A
Well,
there's
there's
two
things:
you
have
to
be
careful
that
there's
the
find
the
credit
card
companies
this
you
have
to.
You
can't
call
it
you
have
to
service
fee
and
then
the
second
thing
is
it
it's
so
much
easier
for
us
to
get
credit
cards.
It
makes
it
easier
on
the
finance
than
somebody
coming
in
with
with
cash.
J
C
And
my
question
was
the
position
that
you're
going
to
reinstate
the
accounting
clerk,
the
personnel
that
was
released
last
year,
because
that
position
they're
going
to
be
able
to
come
back
and
reapply
for
that
position
or
are
they
still
available
or
what.
J
So
we
didn't
put
a
stop
or
not
re-hire
for
that
person,
but
when
we
let
go
that
employee
wasn't
let
go
from
my
department.
We
have
moved
that
employee
to
another
department
and
they
were
let
go
from
that
area.
Any
employee
that
we
let
go
unless
is
on
their
file.
They
can
apply
and
go
through
the
process.
We.
J
F
E
J
And
this
is
utility
billing,
so
utility
billing
is
over
budget
by
29,
and
that
is
we
have
one
so
right
now,
on
utility
billing,
we
have
been
short
on
staff,
on
the
way
that
you
know
we
have
people
are
recovered.
We
have
people
that
are
trying
to
take
vacation
and
we
only
have
one
cashier
right
now
on
the
window,
and
then
we
have
again
one
accountant
trying
to
fill
out
that
cashier
position.
So
we
request
to
the
administration
to
let
us
hire
one
staff,
one
additional
cashier.
J
Another
increase
is
on
the
water
company
of
america,
which
is
the
three-year
contract.
This
is
the
company
that
we
hired
to
recover
on
bill
water
and
sewer,
and
that
is
a
approximately
264
thousand
dollar
annual
contract.
J
They
finish
all
their
checking
all
the
residential
commercial
recover
on
december
2021,
so
we
make
their
first
payment
on
january
and
we
most
recently
make
a
second
payment,
so
they
be
lost
quarterly
and
the
second
payment
to
like
sixty
thousand
dollars.
They
recover
sixty
percent
of
any
bill
that
we
collect
so
the
revenue
they
get
paid.
Sixty
percent
of
that,
so
our
budget
for.
A
D
Know
great
part
about
this
too
mary
that
jack
264
after
the
third
year
becomes
all
of
ours
yeah.
So
that's
the
best
part.
A
Yeah
and
the
other
thing
is
that
you
know
we
were
getting
dep
and
st
john's
water
management
were
not
happy
with
us
being
out
of
balance
between
water
being
produced
and
water
being
sold.
So
it
a
whole
bunch
of
reasons
why
it
was
a
good,
a
good
contract.
J
And
then
we
are
looking
in
to
improve
our
lock
box
right
now
again,
one
of
our
accountants
is
sitting
down
opening
once
a
month,
all
these
envelopes
that
people
send
on
the
check
and
processing
the
check
through
a
machine.
It's
a
whole
tedious
process
and
we're
looking
into
a
lockbox
we're
getting
quotes
currently
in
preparation,
and
it's
approximately
six
thousand
dollars
for
that
to
get
that
process
automated
we're
thinking
using
maybe
the
same
company
we
have
currently
for
other
processes,
but
we're
still
looking
into
quotes.
F
J
E
J
We
have
an
employee
opening
the
envelopes
taking
them
out
running
it
through
a
machine
posted
it
on
the
bank
and
then
destroying
the
checks.
Then
we
have
to
pay
the
company
to
destroy
the
checks.
If
we
pay
a
company,
a
lockbox
they'll
do
all
that
process
and
then
they'll
send
us
a
report
and
we
upload.
Hopefully
you
know
we'll
talk
to
it
and
see
how
that
works,
and
we
upload
the
report
and
that's
it
done
so.
The
the
process
of
manually
doing
all
that
goes
through
a
company.
Okay,
not
through
one
of
our
employees,.
J
No,
no,
we
are
just
getting
quotes
because
if
it
doesn't
pass
a
threshold,
then
you
don't
need
to
do
a
big
rfp.
So
we're
looking
into
that.
If
we
pass
our
threshold,
then
we
go
through
procurement
and
we'll
do
our
process
as
normal.
Okay
and
then
we
are
requesting
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
put
a
new
tower
for
our
customers
that
we
have
in
2007,
which
is
when
we
have
our
towers.
J
We
have
19
800
customers,
water
for
water
meters
and
that's
supporting
two
towers
since
2007
we're
expecting
in
2022
at
least
35
000
water
meter
customers.
So
we
put
an
additional
tower
to
be
review
and
that's
the
60
000
that
we're
asking
for
it
and
then
we
reduce
equipment.
Because
last
year
we
have
45
000
on
the
pickup
truck
that
we
got
for
utility
and
we
don't
need
it
this
year.
So
we're
basically
swapping
the
45
for
the
60
000
and
that's
where
the
29
percent
comes
for
the
over
budget
for
utility.
A
J
C
The
46
0002
for
the
personnel
request
does
that
include
benefits.
Is
that
just
salary,
the.
J
A
K
Evening,
everybody
mayor
commissioners,
I'm
joe
patna
director
of
hr,
so
this
year's
budget,
when
I.
D
K
All
right
so
coming
here,
it
was
very
challenging.
As
you
know,
there
was
no
one
in
hr
and
I
have
to
throw
a
big
shout
out
to
chuck
favre
and
tammy
down
in
the
edwards
office
for
helping
out
because
they
were
a
great
help
in
transitioning
helping
transitioning
the
hr
team.
K
So
during
the
year
we've
had
a
lot
of
challenges,
some
with
software
learning
all
the
different
systems
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
we've
we've
overcome
that
we've
still
got
some
challenges
ahead.
We've
got
some
big
obstacles
to
overcome
and
some
big
projects
to
do.
K
One
of
those
is
digitizing
all
of
our
personnel
records.
So,
as
you
know,
that
takes
a
lot
of
time
a
lot
of
effort.
Meanwhile,
work
has
to
still
go
on
so
during
the
year,
while
training
everyone
getting
everyone
up
to
speed,
we're
at
the
point
now
to
where
we
have
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
in
the
office.
A
lot
of
phone
traffic,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
events,
we're
trying
to
get
out
there
and
do
some
recruiting
as
well
with
job
fairs
and
stuff
like
that.
K
So
also
the
budget
when
the.
But
when
I
came
here
the
budget
there
was
some
in
the
budget,
but
it
didn't
account
for
everything
that
we
needed
so
you'll
see
a
lot
of
jumps
in
the
budget
here,
because
for
one
thing
there
wasn't
anything
in
some
lines.
Light
is
where
now
there
are
such
as
let's
say.
K
Tools
to
use
such
as
tablecloth,
because
when
you
go
to
job
fair
last
job
fair,
we
went,
we
didn't
have
those
things
and
we
ended
up
have
being
on
a
a
blank
table
with
nothing
on
it.
So
nobody
knew
who
we
were
so
but
anyway,
those
account
for
some
of
the
big
big
items.
Big
jumps
here
and
percentages.
E
K
K
Another
jumper
requesting
for
this
next
year
is
an
additional
position,
which
is
a
hr
specialist
one.
K
K
K
K
K
K
It's
where
for
jobs,
posting
jobs,
okay,
yeah,
where
individuals
can
come
in
and
actually
apply
for
a
job
in
the
brac.
In
the
background,
it
used
to
take
a
lot
of
time
to
do
that,
because
it
was
a
primitive
type
of
software
where
it
took
a
lot
of
man
hours
to
manage,
and
I
won't
go
into
the
stipulation
about
that
because
it
would
take
too
long.
B
K
F
A
Thousand,
so
what
we
the
reason
we
we
thought
you
know
because
of
inflation's,
you
know
just
taking
everybody
on
the
chin.
We
thought
this.
This
is
a
one-year
deal,
but
we
thought,
let's
get
everybody.
You
know
a
bonus
and
that's
just
an
easy
way,
everybody.
So
it's
basically
longevity,
but
we're
just
going
to
double
the
longevity
pay
to
try
to
help.
You
know
cushion
that
inflation
factor
for
this
year.
F
So
the
the
other
thing
that
your
seasonal
workers,
the
ones
that
work
in
in
at
the
jason,
dolly
at
the
amphitheater
they
work
at
the
alonzo
williams.
They
work
at
the
frank
halton.
I
mean
I
see
them,
you
know
at
every
event
working
and
what
are
we
offering
them.
K
We
we
are
talking
about
raising
those
salaries
as
well.
We're
still
talking
about
that.
So
we
haven't
quite
decided
about
that.
We
are
on
track
to
try
to
raise
at
least
all
salary
levels
to
15
an
hour.
F
They
get
no
benefits
so
now
when
they
work
these
late
late
hours,
because
I
mean
I
I've
gone
to
every
saturday
sounds
and
anything
I
mean
they're,
the
ones
that
are
left
till
you
know
9
10
11
o'clock
at
night.
Do
we
compensate
them
for
that?
You
know
working
those
late
hours
besides
their
minimum
pay
right.
K
K
I
believe
the
minimum
for
some
I'd
have
to
pull
it
up,
but
I
think
it
goes
from
twelve
dollars
to
fifteen
dollars
like
the
the
crossing
guards.
I
think
they're
set
at
12
or
13.
E
F
K
K
F
K
There
are
some,
but
not
not
as
much
as
I
expected,
so
those
those
positions
have
been
have
been
filled.
There
are,
you
know
some
positions
like
crossing
guards
which
we
explained
we
raised
those
to
15.,
so
I
think
that's
going
to
help
out
quite
a
bit.
F
F
Okay,
I'll
speak
to
you.
I
hope
so.
Thank
you.
Okay,
any
other
questions,
yeah,
one
more.
When
you
set
professional
services,
you
do
the
leadership
training
for
when
you
do
leadership
training.
Besides
your
own
staff.
Where
else
do
you
do
the
leadership
training.
K
I
don't
think
that
that
is
going
to
cost
a
whole
lot
of
dollars.
I
didn't
put
that
in
the
budget.
I
believe
we
can
do
that
internally
and
very
effectively,
so
that
that
is
one
idea.
That's
that's
becoming
in
there
other
trainings.
I
believe
that
the
individual
departments
have
their
have
some
programs
already
set
where
they
have
certifications
that
have
to
be
met
or
certifications
that
are
optional
for
individuals
that
they
can
get
and
hopefully
move
up.
K
Community
development,
I
believe
they
have
a
certification
for
permit
clerks.
I
can't
recall
the
name
of
the
certification
at
this
point.
K
In
human
resources
we
have
the
human
resource,
professional
certification,
I
believe,
there's
other
certifications
within
public
services
that
they
can
get
wastewater.
I'm
sure
that
I
know
that
there's
many,
you
know
several
different
certifications
they
can
get
in
there.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
address
in
in
a
mentorship
program
to
help
individuals
move
move
up
in
the
organization.
F
K
F
Okay,
it
was
another
one
because
I
kind
of
wrote
all
around
a
chuck
crossing
guards.
You
told
me
about
you
said
something
with
ems
ems.
What
was.
K
That
is
a
program
that
the
police
fire
hr,
uses
it's
required
by
the
police
so
and
fire
to.
K
They
use
it
for
all
of
their
policies
where,
where
individuals
can
go
in
and
actually
look
at
the
policy,
they
can
actually
send
those
out
if
there's
any
trainings
or
whatever
they
can
send
those
out
to
the
individuals
that
need
that
and
they
can
take
those
trainings
and
then
actually
sign
for
it,
and
it's
a
way
to
track.
Did
they
did
they
complete
this?
Did
they
complete
that,
so
we
in
hr
use
it
as
well
for
onboarding,
so
individuals
that
are
on
boarded?
E
F
F
K
Well,
this
particular
job
fair
that
we
went
to
was
for
veterans,
so
it
was
at
the
vfw
right
here
where
we
didn't
have
a
tablecloth.
We
didn't
have,
you
know
a
pull-up
to
say
who
we
were
so
it
was.
It
was
interesting.
I
mean
we
still
had
some
people
coming
to
our
table,
but
you
know
we
didn't
have
anything
to
give
away
to
entice
people
to
come
to
our
table.
K
We
didn't
have
it
at
that
time,
so
I
put
some
more
money
in
the
budget
for
those
types
of
things
for
job
fairs
that
we
can
go
out
because
right
now
we're
not
going
to
them.
So
we
need
to
increase
our
visibility
out
to
the
public
to
say:
hey,
we
do
have
jobs.
This
is
our
job
site.
K
You
know
it's
hard
to
explain
to
people
your
benefits
when
they're
looking
online.
Sometimes
you
have
to
do
it
face-to-face
and
I
think
it
would
help,
especially
when
we're
short
communication
staff.
You
know
9-1-1
operators
to
go
out
talk
to
people
face-to-face
talk
to
them
about
the
job,
talk
to
them,
about
the
benefits
that
we
offer,
because
I
think
we
have
a
great
benefits
package
talk
to
them
about
the
incentive
program,
the
longevity
that
they
we
raised
it
and
how
you
know
how
that
helps.
K
K
We
do
we
do
we,
we
created
the
pamphlet.
We
also
created
another
handout
that
talks
about
our
benefits,
and
you
know
what's
offered
here
and
what
you
know
retirement
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
yeah.
B
Yeah
just
quickly
you're,
adding
the
hr
specialist
one
position
and
then
adding.
E
B
C
Mr
smith,
how
do
you
know
how
many
seasonal
workers
we
have
that
worked
at
jason
dwelling
and
these
other.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
Community
development.
A
L
Good
evening,
mayor
commissioners,
radley
williams,
parks
and
rec
director
real
quick
to
kind
of
follow
up
on
that
last
discussion
about
seasonal
staff,
at
jason,
dwelli
and
like
our
splash
park
and
our
rental
facilities,
we
currently
carry
11
part-time
seasonal
staff
members
that.
L
L
As
joe
mentioned,
it
is
something
that
needs
to
be
adjusted
by
2025
to
15
an
hour,
but
for
right
now
we're
just
monitoring
that
we
do
also
have
four
part-time
seasonal
park
rangers
that
we
are
looking
at,
possibly
adjusting
to
15
an
hour
now
they're
a
little
bit
higher
skilled
position
and
they
work
year-round
a
pretty
set
schedule
at
the
parks.
So.
H
H
Echo
commissioner
velazquez
in
that,
if
it's
only
11-
or
I
guess,
15
total
with
the
park
rangers,
give
them
some
type
of
annual
bonus,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
huge
sum,
doesn't
have
to
be
based
on
longevity
or
anything
just
something
that
is
a
flat
rate
that
just
gives
they're
they're
not
immune
to
this
crazy
inflation
either.
So
I
I
would
echo
that.
F
H
Offer
something
it
doesn't
have
to
be
huge,
doesn't
have
to
be
the
same
thing,
but
just
something
to
the
part-time
workers
I
think,
would
be
really
valuable
to
them.
Okay,.
F
L
Much
tonight
I'll
be
presenting
our
tentative
parks.
Direct
budget
for
the
22-23
fiscal
year
parks
and
rec
department
is
comprised
of
four
divisions
which
are
responsible
for
the
ground's
maintenance
and
upkeep
of
city
parks,
athletic
fields
and
properties
for
the
youth,
adult
and
family
programming,
athletics
throughout
the
city
for
the
operation,
execution
of
city,
community
events
and
operations
at
the
apopka
amphitheater
for
the
operations
and
programming
at
camp
wewa
and
for
the
maintenance
and
operations
at
the
edgewood
greenwood
cemetery.
L
Over
all
our
parks,
direct
budget
for
the
22
to
23
fiscal
year
came
in
at
15
higher
than
the
current
budget,
and
that's
primarily
due
to
increased
requests
and
operating
expenses
expenses
capital
outlay,
and
we
are
also
requesting
an
additional
parks
worker
position.
L
So
our
parks
division
shows
an
overall
increase
of
20
percent
personnel
costs
show
an
increase
due
to
the
request,
an
additional
parks
worker
position,
and
this
position
is
being
requested
to
address
the
need
for
improved
levels
of
service
for
the
beautification
and
trust
pickup
throughout
the
city.
L
L
In
operating
expenses,
we
show
an
increase
to
3
400
other
contractual
services,
and
again
this
increase
is
requested
for
additional
funds
for
mowing
landscape
maintenance
contractor
again
to
help
improve
our
standards
and
level
of
service
for
beautification,
throughout
city
properties,
city
facilities,
parks
and
and
other
parcels.
The
city
might
own.
L
One
other
highlight
of
a
large
cost
was
the
park
tree
bank
expenditures
we're
increasing
this
line,
because
revenue
collected
has
been
much
higher
over
the
last
four
years
than
we
have
budgeted
for,
and
we
continue
to
expect
to
experience
that
because
of
the
continued
growth
and
development
in
the
city.
So
that
was
just
kind
of
to
balance
that
revenue
coming
in
with
some
funding
to
continue
to
plant
trees
throughout
the
city.
H
Is
that
include
the
is
that
part
of
the
ada
park
is
that
in
this
budget,
that's.
L
So
athletic
and
events
shows
an
overall
increase
of
eight
percent
from
the
current
fiscal
year.
We
didn't
have
any
adjustments
in
personnel
costs,
we're
not
requesting
any
additional
positions.
Operating
expenses
show
a
nine
percent
increase
and
that's
primarily
due
to
increases
in
other
contractual
services.
Again.
What
we're
experiencing
are
increases
in
referee
services,
expenses
for
the
athletic
programs
and
we're
also
looking
to
do
an
exterior
and
interior
painting
at
the
frank
carlton
center
to
kind
of
freshen.
That
facility
up.
L
And
then
the
large
increase
24
increase
in
capital
outlay
works
to
complete
a
couple
new
projects
replacing
the
gazebo
at
hitland
nelson
park,
adding
new
led
lights
to
a
field
out
at
northwest
recreation
complex
and
to
provide
a
matching
to
provide
matching
funds
for
an
ada
playground
at
northwest
exploration,
complex
and
we're
looking
at
a
ferdat
grant
to
which
is
the
florida
recreation
development
assistance
program
grant
which
provides
matching
funds
for
amenities
like
playgrounds
and
parks.
H
L
So
the
we'll
be
coming
back
to
you
in
the
august
time
frame
for
a
resolution
to
help
with
the
grant
packet
of
the
grant
application.
That
is
due
at
the
end
of
august.
L
Once
that
process
happens,
it'll
be
probably
around
spring
when
we
know,
if
we'll
be
selected
for
the
grant,
but
we're
throwing
money
in
to
make
sure
we're
ready
with
the
hopes
that
we
are
going
to
get
selected
for
that.
H
L
Yeah
so
had
some
talks
with
the
mayor
about
that
as
well.
We
would
definitely
locate
that
next
to
the
ada
and
that's.
L
And
the
plan
is
to
locate
that
where
the
existing
large
playground
is
at
northwest
by
the
schools
it's
kind
of
getting
longer
in
age
and
and
we're
ready
to
to
get
something
new
over
there
cool.
F
All
right
one
question:
the
new
parks
will
they
have
sun
shades.
L
F
L
L
Trying
to
get
a
larger
gazebo
in
that
park
a
lot
of
the
events
that
we
have
in
that
park,
that
gazebo
is
not
the
right
size
for
the
scale
of
the
event,
and
it
is
also
getting
up
there
in
age,
yeah.
So
good.
C
And
I've
got
concerns
and
reference
to
the
the
scope
boards
that
not
being
used
when
the
games
have
been
played.
Is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
in
order
that
the
teams
can
use
the
scoreboards.
L
For
the
tournaments
that
are
out
there,
I
believe
that's
up
to
the
tournament
director
on
whether
they're
going
to
use
them
or
not
for
the
little
league
program.
I
can
follow
up
with
them
and
see
if
there's
a
reason
why
they're
not
using
them
or
if
it's
something
on
our
side
or
something
on
their
needs
that
we're
not
making
we're
not
hitting
maybe
but.
C
L
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
3614
camp
wewa.
L
This
budget,
we
actually
are
showing
a
five
percent
decrease
from
the
current
fiscal
year.
These
cost
savings
were
found
in
operating
expenses
and
capital
outlay,
and
our
staff
are
continuing
to
streamline
the
operation
at
the
camp
and,
after
this
first
full
year
of
operations.
So
there's
some
areas
that
we
could
kind
of
tighten
up
on.
We've
reflected
that
in
the
budget
request,
we
still
have
placed
some
funding
in
capital
outlay
to
continue
completing
ada
upgrades
needed
at
the
camp
to
make
sure
we
meet
the
land
and
water
grant
requirements.
L
F
There
was
a
concern
that
I
think
one
of
the
constituents
wrote
me
when
there's
thunder
and
lightning
some
kind
of
alarm
like
we
do
at
jason.
I
keep
saying
jason
dwelling,
but
the
amphitheater
in
that
area.
We
have
the
alarm
that
tells
us
a
storm
is
coming,
and
one
of
the
constituents
had
shared
concern
that
it
didn't
exist
in
camp.
We
was
that
correct.
L
Right
there
is
no
lightning
monitoring
horn
like
we
have
at
northwest.
We
are
actually
at
a
meeting
on
monday
to
look
at
that
and
we're
hopeful
that
we
can
try
and
knock
that
out
with
cost
savings
from
this
year.
L
It's
a
lightning
detection
system
and
really
it's
a
it's
a
giant
horn,
a
lot
of
it's
digital
now
through
the
internet
once
it
tells
you
it's
in
the
area,
it
blasts
a
horn
and
everybody
clears
into
that
building.
L
Jason
dwelling,
has
it
fran
carlton.
Has
it.
L
We
can
look
at
that
too.
I
don't
think
there's
one
at
alonzo
williams
right
now:
okay,
so
the
apopka
sports
or
apopka
fields
over
by
the
high
school
that
has
one
at
apopka
athletic,
complex,
frank,
carlton
and
northwest.
So
we
can
look
at
alonso
williams
and
also
camp
lewis
on
the
list.
H
All
right
for
I
know
camp.
We
all
have
done
a
lot
of
work.
Bringing
that
up
looks
great.
Is
there
any
additional
items
that
need
to
be
addressed
in
reference
to
fire
safety?
Things
like
that?
Do
we
need
to
be
bringing
in
sprinklers
in
each
cabin
things
like
that?
Is
there
any
upgrades
that
we
need
to
be
making
on
those.
L
There's
no
need
for
the
current
configuration
for
sprinkler
systems
or
really
full-blown
monitoring
we
do
need.
We
do
have
smoke
detectors.
We
are
looking
to
upgrade
those
so
that
there's
a
strobe
light
to
make
it
ada
compliant,
but
there's
no
monitoring
need
out
there
other
than
the
smoke
detector
in
the
cabins.
L
Now,
if
we
were
to
build
new
cabins,
we'd
fall
into
a
new
category
of
fire
safety,
but
the
way
it
stands
out
there,
we
don't
need
that
and
we're
still
working
through
a
few
few
items
on
the
checklist
punch
list
to
make
sure
we're
up
to
the
the
top
of
the
standard.
Definitely.
L
B
L
Yeah
I'll
have
to
I'll
have
to
pull
that
information
for
you,
and
I
can.
I
can
provide
that
to
you
in
a
report,
but
the
the
camp
program
performed
well
this
year
and
then
our
next
step
is
to
build
out.
Obviously,
all
the.
B
D
E
L
A
small
budget:
it's
not
we're
not
talking
a
huge,
huge
thing
here:
cemetery
budget
showing
an
increase
47
percent-
and
this
is
due
to
capital
improvement
items
that
we're
requesting
we're
requesting
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
additional
aluminum
fencing
around
the
new
portion
of
the
cemetery
to
match
the
existing
and
really
bring
that
portion
in
that
has
just
been
platted.
L
Also
30
000
for
a
new
columbarium
to
be
placed
out
in
the
cemetery,
and
then
we
have
a
utility,
cart
and
pickup
truck
that
have
reached
the
end
of
service
life.
So
we've
got
some
funds
in
there
for
for
those
items
for
cemetery
operations,.
F
There
was
what
about
the
the
infrastructure,
the
sidewalks
and
that
and
in
the
cemetery
remember
we
had
a
a
constituent
come
in
that
where
her
spouse
was
buried.
She
said
there
were
so
many
potholes
that
she
was
afraid
to
take
her
car
through.
D
F
Oh,
oh
just
one
one
question
and-
and
I
put
it
up
here
as
you
were
talking-
and
I
wanted
to-
let
you
finish
the
amphitheater
itself-
a
lot
of
the
the
concert
attendees
have
brought
to
my
attention
that
the
stage
was
kind
of
looking
faded.
F
Are
we
going
to
repaint
that
and
then
the
over
the
the?
I
guess
the
dome
they
said
when
you
come
from
the
outside
or
you
come
from.
I
guess
brush
drive,
the
dome
just
looks
moldy
and
dirty
that's
what
I
was
told.
L
D
E
F
E
F
C
And
since
you're
back
up
there,
can
you
also
investigate
maybe
adding
some
fans
underneath
the
amphitheater.
L
Some
fans
to
direct
down
on
the
on
the
crowd,
yeah.
I
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
what
we
got
all.
M
Here
we
go
community
development,
we
have
this
jim,
hey
community
development
director.
We
have
two
divisions
in
community
development
and
kind
of
a
couple
side
ones
with
the
engineering
and
also
with
transportation
transportation.
We're
not
going
to
be
covering
that
tonight,
because
that's
an
impact
fee
type
program,
the
only
major
part
that
I've
got.
You
know.
Let
me
back
up
a
little
bit,
obviously
we're
doing
a
lot
of
annexations.
Last
year
we
did.
M
M
I
don't
have
the
total
acreage,
but
it's
all
for
all
brand
new
development.
There,
everybody
that's
annexing
in
is
bringing
in
either
industrial
warehousing
or
multi-family
or
single-family
development.
So
it's
all
part
of
the
overall
program,
construction
and
permitting
and
inspection-
that's
the
one
that
is
probably
the
busiest
in
regards
to
other
than
gene
sanchez.
M
This
is
where
we
are,
I
guess
you
say,
knocking
it
out
of
the
park,
our
inspections.
Last
year
we
had
about
1800
inspections
this
year,
we're
expecting
a
little
over
2
000
inspections.
That's
for
our
four
inspectors
that
we
have,
along
with
our
building
official
and
our
deputy
building
official
plans
that
are
that
are
reviewed
right
now,
we're
we're
sitting,
probably
about
19
000
for
this
year.
M
This
is
just
the
plans
that
that
they
go
through
all
the
all
the
different
permits
that
we
that
we've
got
going
ceos
went
from.
We
had
200
476
cos.
These
are
for
residential.
Last
year
this
year,
we're
probably
going
to
put
about
410
420
or
so
can.
M
Sections:
okay,
yeah:
this
is
just
some
of
the
general
information
that
it
I
can
actually
send
you
the
co
and
permit
information
so
that
you've
got
that
and
basically
that
just
shows
how
how
busy
the
building
division
actually
is
going
out
there.
Every
day
we've
got
four
clerks.
We
are
losing
one
clerk,
she's
retiring,
the
end
of
september,
but
we've
already
got
somebody
that
will
be
starting
in
a
couple
weeks
to
get
trained
before
before
caroline
leaves,
so
we're
trying
to
replace
them
as
we
as
we
lose
them.
M
Unfortunately,
our
planning
department,
we
have
lost
a
few
planners.
Our
new
planner
decided
not
to
come
in
to
work
on
monday,
so
we're
we're
short
now
jean
is
pulling
triple
duty
and
she's
she's
doing
a
wonderful
job.
We're
just.
M
F
This
year,
you
lost
how
many
you
left
bobby,
left
bobby.
M
Went
to
lake
county
phil
went
to
paulus
and
bennett
just
to
try
something
different
and
allison.
Allison
went
to
another
job
that
was
close
to
where
she
lived.
We
lost
a
secretary
that
also
did
that
to
close
to
where
she
lived,
and
we
had
a
secretary
that
was
ready
to
go,
but
she
was
coming
in
from
texas
and
could
not
make
the
transition
fast
enough.
M
It
was
just
too
much
of
a
job
trying
to
sell
property
and
come
back
into
the
city,
but
her
her
son
does
live
here
and
so
she'll
she'll
get
her
eventually,
but
we
did
interview
with
somebody
and
they'll
be
starting.
Her
name
is
mary
delgarado
and
she's
going
to
be
starting
next
week,
thursday.
So
we'll
have
a
secretary
that
can
help
out
with
business
tax
receipts
and
get
our
get
the
organization
this
person
did.
She
worked
for
osceola,
county
schools
and
so.
M
Instead
of
doing
two
entry
levels,
we're
gonna
do
a
planner
two,
which
is
the
next
level
up
for
some
experience
and
also
planner
one.
Those
are
all
being
advertised
right
now.
Okay,
so.
M
M
M
So
that
being
said,
the
this
this
also
lists
economic
development.
This
is
economic
development
is
kind
of
one
of
those
things
that
we
always
are
working
towards
that
anyway.
This
is
whenever,
whenever
somebody
comes
in,
one
of
my
duties
is
to
basically
keep
them
happy
concierge
for
developers
to
come
in
letting
them
know
what
the
process
is
putting
them
in
touch
with
the
correct
planner
or
the
correct
division,
to
get
the
information
that
they
need,
whether
it's
water,
sewer
utilities
garbage
pickup
electrical
plumbing
anything
that
they
need.
M
Basically,
that's
where
I
come
in
in
terms
of
getting
them
the
information
that
they
need
in
order
to
get
their
their
development
working.
We
came
up
with
a
development
checklist
so
that,
basically,
if
you're
coming
into
the
city,
it's
a
checklist
that
has
just
about
every
connection
that
you
need
to
make
in
order
to
in
order
to.
E
M
In
order
to
make
your
project
work
long
range
in
strategic
land
use
planning,
site
planning,
this
is
all
part
of
the
the
process
that
we've
got
also
for
for
for
planning
itself
our
projects
and
plans,
plats
review
things
like
that.
Last
year
we
had-
and
I
just
went
through
development
review,
the
city
council
meetings.
We
had
about
123
different
projects,
plats
and
plans
that
were
approved
or
went
through
the
process
itself
this
year
we're
we're
going
to
be
pushing.
M
I
estimated
you
know,
granted
it's
only
through
june
they're,
going
to
be
a
little
over
100,
but
we've
also
been
getting
a
lot
more
plans
in
in
the
last
three
weeks
than
what
I
expected
halfway
through
the
year.
M
We
are
getting
quite
a
few
of
the
multi-family
developments
coming
in
comparatively
it's
just
as
many
multi-family
units
as
there
are
single-family
units
and
right
now,
our
the
development
review
list
that
I
you
know
that
I
sent
out
along
with
the
the
map,
shows
about
9
900
units
over
the
next
three
three
to
five
years,
so
it
about
three
units
per
you
do
the
math.
That's
you
know
we're
looking
at
about.
Twenty
thousand
more
people
in
the
next
five
years.
F
So
do
you
have
them
broken
down
like
from
kind
of
year
to
year,
like
what
the
expectation
is?
I
mean
you
have
99
100
units
so
between
now
and
2023.
Do
you
have
an
idea.
M
M
Permits
the
building
permits
is
is
180
days
once
they
get
the
building
permit
to
actually
do
work
most
of
these
developers.
What
they're
coming
what
they're
doing
is
coming
in
and
they
are
doing
the
they're
they're
going
right
away.
They
don't
the
the
banks
are
still
doing
the
funding
and
the
banks
want
to
see
reaction
for
the
money
that
they're
investing
so
they're.
If,
if
they're
coming
in
for
development
review,
they're
building
yeah
so
do.
E
M
Satisfy
that
permit
180
days
for
a
permit
itself,
and
that's
only
if
they,
if
they
do
one
inspection
in
that
180
days,
it
keeps
going.
It
keeps
clocking
on
most
of
the
developers
when
they
build
a
house
they're
doing
an
inspection.
You
know
one
or
two
inspections
a
month.
At
least
you
know
between
mechanical
plumbing,
electrical
and
construction
itself.
Okay,
and
that's
just
our
inspectors,
the
building
building
part.
We
also
have.
M
We
have
the
city
engineer
that
does
that
that's
richard
richard
earp.
He
does
all
the
floodplain
work.
He
also
does
I
mean
that's
that's
for
the
whole
city.
He
also
has
a
crew
that
he
also
takes
care
of
any
any
potential
runoff
areas
or
issues
he
takes
care
of
that
also.
But
then
he
also
does
review
the
plans
and
the
form
board
surveys
and
final
surveys.
M
H
I
had
a
question
in
reference
to
economic
development.
I
know
you're
you're
running
with
that
and
hitting
that
up.
My
concern
is
you're,
not
gonna,
be
with
us
forever.
H
I
know,
and
that's
probably
the
compliment
also
my
scare
is
that
you've
been
here
so
long.
You
know
the
streets,
you
know
density.
I
can
give
you
an
address
to
be
like
I
know
exactly.
What's
there,
I
know
it
used
to
be
there.
I
know
who
owns
it.
That's
awesome,
but
I
don't
have
anybody
behind
you
saying
you
know
kind
of
training
up
in
that.
H
H
You
know
your
especially
your
division
is,
is
so
overwhelmed
as
it
is
that
you
you
can
you're
doing
concierge,
which
is
awesome,
but
there's
no
outreach
happening
so
there's
and
I
think
that's
part
of
economic
development
or
an
avenue
of
economic
development,
so
you're
doing
great,
and
I
appreciate
that
it's
just
at
some
point.
There's.
H
That
needs
to
come
in
and
so
that
that's
my
concern
is
I'd.
Like
us
appear
in
some
capacity
that
we
need
to
have
a
succession
plan
that
that
conversation
we
need
to
have-
and
that's
probably
not
just
you
exclusively,
there's
a
lot
that
needs
to
go
into
that.
So
it's
just
something
we
all
need
to
be
thinking
about
that.
That's
it.
M
Coming
I
I
agree
that
one
of
the
things
when,
when
bob
elmquist
retired,
he
was
down
in
public
services
and
he
was
doing
all
the
appraisals
and
the
surveys
and
things
like
that,
and
since
I
had
done
that
in
a
couple
different
previous
jobs,
I
am
doing
that
all
so.
That's
that's
where
to
actually
get
back
to
the
budget
portion.
Good
good,
good
switch
over
the
line
item
3400
this
is
this
is
actually
the
the
only
major
area
that
I
that
I
have
an
increase
in
this
is
for
specific
purpose
studies.
M
This
is
where
we
do
the
professional
services.
Traffic
studies
are
not
included
in
this
because
that's
part
of
the
related
for
development
review
itself,
but
engineering
or
design
studies
are
also
part
of
the
programmatic
parameters
for
the
capital
budget.
So
what
we,
what
we
typically
are
looking
at,
is
architectural
design,
environmental
studies
and
analysis,
property
appraisals,
surveys,
closing
services,
comprehensive
plan
updates,
land
development
code
updates.
M
When
I
can't
do
those
myself
we
channel
out,
we
also
have
a
couple
different
outside
reviewers
that
have
you
know,
30
40
years
of
experience
of
a
site
plan
review
that
that
we
that
we
hired
to
review
some
of
the
larger
plans
and
then
there's
also
the
that
original
budget
was
250
000
last
year
and
this
year
we're
bringing
that
up
to
300
000,
but
we're
also
adding
in
the
best
foot
forward
program
which
is
a
hundred
thousand.
M
So
that's
that's
where
it
went
from
250
to
the
the
400
000,
the
best
foot
forward
program.
I
think
the
mayor
can
probably
tell
more
about
that
than
what
I
can,
because
we
were
we
were.
We
were
looking
for
where
we
could
put
some
of
these
special
programs,
and
that
was
a
that
was
one
of
those
that,
with
the
special
purpose
studies,
that's
what
we
felt
that
it
was
a
it
was
a
fit
for
for
that.
M
Then
the
only
other,
the
only
other
portion
that
we've
got
is
the
under.
Under
the
building
services.
We
are
in
the
process
of
hiring
another
inspector,
and
we've
got
budgeted
a
another
inspector,
a
fifth
inspection
inspector
based
on
the
numbers
that
we've
got.
We
will
probably
need
it,
especially
with
the
projects
that
are
coming
online
for
2023,
so
we
did
budget
for
two
cars
and
we're
looking
to
go
electric,
so
we
did
put
in
75
000.
M
We
are
not
sure
how
much
the
electric
cars
are
going
to
cost
at
that
time,
we'll
probably
go
with
the
nissan
leaf
them.
The
base
version
gets
150
miles
to
for
a
charge
and
they're
they're,
putting
on
probably
50
miles
of
40
to
50
miles
a
day,
driving
the
13
miles
north
to
south
and
nine
miles
east
west.
So
it's
a
but
it's
it's
we've
got
the
chargers,
the
charging
ports
here
at
city
hall,
so
it
would
be
an
easy
transition
for
them
to
do
and
that's
where
that's
we're
looking
at.
M
So
those
are
the
two
two
portions
just
a
little
bit
in
in
each
in
each
division.
B
M
M
And
actually,
you
want
to
point
something
out:
real,
quick,
the
the
map.
That's,
on
the
left
hand,
side,
that's
actually
a
cra
project,
but
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
sidewalks
that
we
replaced,
this
is
actually
replacing
all
the
sidewalks
in
those
areas.
Two
to
ten
foot
10
to
12
foot
wide
asphalt
pass
for
for
the
south
of
main
street
project.
B
M
Which,
by
the
way,
yes
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
be
covering
that
in
the
sea
you
know
for
the
cra,
but
we're
probably
about
90.
95
percent
of
the
plans
are
have
been
completed.
I've
got
five
five
owners
that
we've
contacted
two
of
actually
three
of
the
five
that
we
have
to
get
easements
for,
for
either
access
or
access
and
utility,
because
we've
got
some
lines
that
are
actually
underneath
just
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
property
side
of
the
sidewalk.
C
C
H
But
I
specifically
remember
asking
them,
and
they
said
we
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
allow
that
to
you
guys,
because
they
so
they
don't
know
they
use
it
like
on.
If
they
go
to
a
crash
or
something
to
see,
is
it
orange
county
who
do
we
call
once
on
site.
C
M
Now
I
I
have
not
seen
that.
I
know
that
before
phil
left
we
were,
we
were
looking
to
go
towards
doing
an
interactive
land
use
and
interactive
zoning
map
that
you
could
actually
go
in
click
on
it.
It
would
tell
you
what
the
land
user
zoning
was
and
what
the
parcel
size
is.
Basically,
you
can
click
on
it
similar
to
what
the
orange
county
gis
uses
for
their
interactive
maps,
but
make
it
ours.
M
M
I
I
can
see
what
I
can
find
out.
I'm
not
sure
whether
or
not
mike
suver
and
carl
can
can
come
up
with
with
a
map
for
it
for
us,
but
I'll
see
what
I
can
find
out.
M
M
E
F
M
We
have
the
everything's
on,
we
don't
have
it
online,
yet
we
still
have
I've
got
10
applications
that
we
have
to
update
one
of
the
the
planning
manager
that
we
were
going
to
hire
that
backed
out.
He
basically
ghosted
us
for
two
weeks
before
his
start
date,
and
then
he
called
up
a
few
days
before
and
said.
I
decided
I'm
not
going
to
start.
He
actually
had
that
background
experience
of
online
permitting,
and
that
was
supposed
to
be
his
project.
So
what
I've?
M
What
I've
looked
at
for
the
planner
two
position
is
gis
experience
and
online
permitting
so
that
we
can
get
somebody
that
can
take
over
and
actually
designate
or
take
the
time
to
actually
put
those
programs
together.
That
was
the
hard
part
is
that
when,
when
we
lost
all
the
people
that
were
going
to
be
working
on
that
in
the
background
to
get
the
project
going,
it
stalled
it
so.
M
Correct
yeah,
we
have,
we
have
it
all
here,
but
we
still
have
some
applications
to
finish
and
we
still
have
to
get
the
the
project
going.
It's
for
online
permitting
and
also
for
the
applications
on
for
online
applications
for
the
planning
and
zoning
portion.
Also,
it's
a
two-step
process
and
the
business
tax
receipts.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
at
and
I've
got
a.
M
I
now
have
my
updated
spreadsheet
for
impact
fees
or
application
fees
we'll
be
bringing
those
to
to
city
council-
probably
I'm
guessing
october
right
now
to
do
that
as
a
resolution
with
the
fire
fees.
A
B
F
C
N
Roger's
back
at
west
7,
west
main
street
just
have
just
a
general
observation
through
the
process
when
it
comes
to
the
workshop
as
a
whole.
Is
this
like
really
the
only
opportunity
that
the
public
has
to
engage
with
the
process
at
this
point
in
time,
because
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
things
just
said:
how
do
we
follow
up
to
make
sure
that
what's
said,
it's
kind
of
worked
out
in
the
long
term,
to
kind
of
also
speak
to
something
that
nick
nessa
said,
and
we
just
was
given
information?
N
Let's
say
the
staff
is
very
honest
at
this
point,
so
we
need
to
really
look
at
how
we're
going
to
handle
this.
If
we're
going
to
go
roughly
70
000
people
in
the
next
couple
years,
how
are
we
going
to
handle
the
growth
that's
coming?
Our
way
you
know,
like
you
said,
jim
hit,
might
be
doing
a
great
job,
but
we
need
to
look
at
how
can
we
incorporate
more
people
in
this
process
because
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
you
know?
N
The
mirror
comes
up
every
four
years,
but
the
city
of
apocalypse
still
has
to
go
on.
So
we
need
to
look
at
how
we
can
engage,
get
more
people
involved
and
what
we're
doing,
whether
it's
the
workshops,
neighborhood
organizations,
but
we
have
to
engage
community
in
a
better
way,
because
if
you
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
come
and
kind
of
gripe
at
count,
city
council,
it's
kind
of
it's
a
bad
taste
on
both
sides.
Right
we've
had
a
lot
of
studies.
N
Reports
done
over
the
years
through
kyosharama
and
all
those
particulars,
but
what
happens
next
so
looking
at
it.
From
the
standpoint
of
I
go
to
cities
like
winter
garden,
you
know
the
stuff
is
growing,
you
know,
but
it's
going,
but
now
it's
downtown
that
area,
but
we
come
to
a
pumpkin.
It
just
seems
like
we're
kind
of
stuck
you
know.
So
hopefully
we
can
kind
of
get
more
engagement
from
the
community
as
a
whole
to
be
a
part
of
this
process.
N
So
if
we
can
do
more
outreach,
more
workshops,
whatever
the
case
may
have
been
to
start
to
foster
that
I
think
we
kind
of
real
bridge
those
gaps
to
make
that
happen,
and
particularly
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
also
bring
up.
I
know
yesterday
that
the
streets
committee
had
proposed
roughly
about
200
thousand
dollars
in
sidewalks.
N
Now
my
thing
is,
I
don't
know
where
that
may
go.
I
know
100
000
was
for
repairs
and
it
was
100
thousand
allocated
for
new
sidewalks.
My
concern
is-
and
I
kind
of
addressed
this
with
edward-
usually
during
the
school
year,
particularly
along
lake
avenue-
there's
no
sidewalks.
When
you
get
past,
I
think
it's
dream
lake
avenue.
N
You
have
a
lot
of
kids
walking
in
the
streets.
You
have
a
gentleman,
that's
a
paraplegic
he's
on
his
motorized
vehicle
in
the
middle
road.
So
we
need
to
look
at
areas
around
schools
to
make
sure
we're
getting
a
safe
route.
So
I
know
one
point
in
time.
That
was
something
used
to
be
discussed,
so
we
really
need
to
take
a
closer
look
at
that,
because
that's
something
that
makes
your
community
more
viable,
walkable
and
things
of
its
nature.
N
So
I
know
so
when
it
comes
to
the
the
christmas
events
there
again,
you
have
people
parking
on
the
streets
and
they're
walking
in
the
streets,
so
we
really
need
to
kind
of
look
at
the
downtown
area
to
make
it
more
walker
friendly.
So
that's
just
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
make
sure.
Hopefully
we
can
address
it.
I
don't
know
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
this
other
than
once
a
year,
but
something
that,
if
that
is
the
case,
there
is
a
plan
from
a
public
standpoint.
N
A
F
And
and
and
I'll
add
to
that
when
I've
looked
at
other
cities,
what
I
see
a
lot
of
the
other
cities
have
are
a
lot
of
advisory
committees
and
they're,
usually
just
volunteers,
different
neighborhoods,
different
cons
groups
that
kind
of
aid
us,
as
as
government
you
know
as
government
is
they
are
in
their
communities
and
they
have
these
small
groups
that
meet
on
their
own,
but
they
do
come
out
and
and
come
to
our
council
meetings
or
have
meetings
where
we
get
invited
and
we
get
to
hear
some
of
the
concerns
in
communities
because
not
all
the
communities
are
the
same,
and
I
did
notice
that
when
I
looked
at
winter
garden,
when
I
looked
at
ocoee
when
I
looked
at
samford
that
they
do
have
different
advisory
committees.
F
B
A
A
And
so
we're
doing
is
prioritizing
where
there's
none
putting
at
least
one,
and
then
you
know
we
just
spent.
I
want
to
say
one
fifty
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
sidewalks
down
kelly
park
so
that
people
could
walk
from
the
trailer
park
to
the
new
the
new
k-8
school
kelly
park
k-8.
So
we
did
spend
money
there
for
walkability
to
to
the
to
the
new
school,
and
it's
just
finished
up
we'll
finish
up,
probably
might
be
tomorrow
the
next
day.
So
it's
it's
right
on
right
on
schedule.