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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting August 19, 2020
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on August 19, 2020 at 7 PM.
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A
B
As
we
prepare
for
this
city
council
meeting,
we
thank
you
for
what
you've
already
done
in
our
lives
and
what
you're
about
to
do.
Even
now,
we
pray
lord
for
your
guidance
for
this
counsel
for
this
mayor.
If
we
particular
decisions,
it's
going
to
impact
the
citizens
of
apopka,
we
pray
with
your
peace
upon
the
citizens
that
are
here
just
got
to
know
that
we
have
a
sense
of
peace
and
a
sense
of
understanding
that
we
may
disagree,
and
rather
we
might
agree
that
all
that
we
should
be
pleased
and
accepted.
B
Break
the
british
cricket
deteriorated
in
a
battle
off
the
coast
of
nova.
Social
witnesses
claimed
that
the
british
shot
merely
bounced
it
off
the
constitutional
science,
as
if
the
ship
was
made
of
iron
rather
than
wood.
The
american
british
vessels
bombarded
each
other
in
close
and
violent
action
by
the
end
of
the
battle
british
ship
was
erect,
while
the
constitution
escaped
with
only
minimal
damage.
The
unexpected
victory
of
old
ironsides
against
the
british
freight
helped
unite
america
behind
the
war
effort
and
made
commander
law
a
national
hero.
B
The
constitution
went
on
to
defeat
or
capture
seven
or
more
british
ships
in
the
war
of
1812
and
ran
the
british
blockade
of
boston
twice
in
1855
the
constitution
retired
from
active
military
service,
but
continued
to
serve
the
united
states
as
a
traineeship
and
latest
victorian
national
landmark
high.
Five.
Thank.
E
A
Okay,
approval
of
minutes,
we've
got
one
little
change
that
I
need
to
make
aware
of
on
the
the
consent
items
it's
we've
got
six
and
in
in
the
in
the.
A
Says
we
only
there's
three,
so
we
just
need
to
change
that
to
make
it
say
six.
So,
with
those
amendments
to
the
the
minutes,
can
I
get
anybody
to
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
amendment?
Amendment
amended
minutes
as
a.
I
K
Okay,
we
have
narett.
K
F
I
have
served
the
city
for
six
years
next
month.
I
try
to
be
a
good
example.
I
work
with
managers
like
glenn,
brooks
and
report
to
manager,
vladimir
simanowski,
who
are
in
the
back
row,
whom
lead
by
example
as
professional
engineers
in
our
division.
Our
mission,
our
professional
responsibility,
is
to
add
value
and
to
provide
leadership
in
our
areas
of
practice.
F
F
F
So
that
means
in
a
three-day
cycle.
More
specifically
defined
in
the
policy
manual
is
a
48
72
work
week.
Rotation
two
full
days
are
off
two
full
days
off
are
enjoyed,
while
the
typical
40
hour
worker,
with
their
seven
day
cycle,
has
two
full
days
off.
It's
called
the
weekend
and
it
goes
by
quick.
You
almost
feel
like
life
passes
you
by
this
misrepresentation
of
dedication
to
the
job.
F
Convinced
me
to
speak
up,
I
recalled
my
duty
as
the
former
vice
chair
of
general
pension,
which
was
to
shine
a
light
on
the
disparity
between
general
and
police
fire
pensions
versus
police,
fire
pensions.
I
try
to
explain
the
sacrifice
of
the
general
employees,
whom
average
three
percent
raises,
while
fire
enjoys
an
average
of
six
or
in
excess
of
six
and
police,
nearly
five.
F
F
F
Therefore,
in
no
way
construed
as
an
entitlement
commissioners,
benson
smith,
becker
and
mayor
nelson
metaphorically,
we
need
only
to
remove
our
face
covering
and
literally,
we
need
only
to
put
one
on
to
recognize
that
these
are
the
times
that
try
men's
souls.
It
is
during
a
pandemic
that
we
can
show
what
it
means
to
be
all
in
this
together.
H
L
Okay,
all
right
need
a
little
more
time
than
that.
Okay,
my
name
is
sam
anderson,
112,
east
6th
street,
and
I'm
here
regarding
next
year's
budget.
First
and
foremost,
I
wrote
the
letter
that
you
all
received
regarding
the
merit
program.
I
stand
behind
it.
I
didn't
sign
it
for
several
reasons.
First
of
all,
I
believe
it
represents
the
general
mood
within
the
police
department
and
not
the
feelings
of
one
person.
L
L
They
may
have
either
a
merit
or
tenure-based
pay
plan.
I
spoke
with,
for
example,
the
deputy
chief
of
winter
park
last
year
or
last
week.
Excuse
me
their
officers
with
zero
to
five
years
of
service
get
five
percent
raises
annually,
that's
a
retention
incentive,
their
sergeants
get
three
and
a
half
percent
raises
and
their
lieutenants
making
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
or
more
get
a
one
percent
raise.
L
So
even
though
you
may
have
heard
that
a
particular
city
is
not
getting
a
cola,
there
are
almost
certainly
other
built-in
retention
incentives,
including
fringe
benefits,
which
we
often
overlook.
Ocoee,
I
got
a
copy
of
their
contract
from
the
chief
yesterday.
They
have
a
step
plan.
What
you
might
call
a
show
up
to
work
and
get
a
raise
sort
of
a
program
not
based
on
merit
it's
in
their
contract,
their
non-union
employees,
including
public
works
and
other
such
things-
are
getting
an
automatic
three
percent
raise
next
year.
L
I
just
like
to
point
out
some
things.
We
got
a
an
email,
citywide.
L
I
apologize,
I
wasn't
worried
you
couldn't
hear
me.
We
got
an
email
citywide
from
the
mayor
on
july
31st
with
a
copy
of
the
proposed
budget
attached.
L
If
you
look
at
the
sales
tax
portion
of
the
budget
and
subtract
next
year's
proposed
revenue
from
this
year's,
it's
two
million
four
hundred
fifty
three
thousand
dollars,
not
three
million
the
mayor's
email,
also
references
a
in-text,
a
property
income.
Excuse
me
a
property
tax
increase
which
will
generate
900
000
of
additional
revenue.
L
L
I
just
want
to
end
by
saying
that
we
sincerely
appreciate
what
we
have.
We
really
do.
I
don't
mean
to
come
up
here
and
gripe,
but
people
are
not
exactly
knocking
down
our
door
to
become
cops.
If
you
haven't
seen
the
news
recently
and
on
that
topic,
we
have
98
filled
positions
of
the
112
that
were
authorized.
L
Could
we
not
say
perhaps
fill
three
quarters
of
those
vacancies
and
the
funding
that
you
have
for
the
remainder
perhaps
uses
a
retention
incentive
for
the
people
that
you've
got
here
now,
rather
than
the
revolving
door,
rather
than
the
hundred
thousand
plus
dollars
that
I
think
it's
estimated
to
cost
to
hire
a
new
police
officer?
Why
not
just
keep
the
good
people
the
dedicated
people
that
we
have
here?
Keep
them
happy.
It
just
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me,
but
I
appreciate
your
time
any
questions.
A
Well,
let
me
a
couple
of
things
that
you
maybe
are
misunderstood:
under
the
sales
tax
reduction,
there's
two
parts
of
sales
tax.
So
if
you
look
at
those
numbers,
the
numbers
I
gave
you
are
accurate.
The
second
thing
is,
as
you
say,
that
the
the
property
ad
volume
went
up.
1.2
million
you're
absolutely
correct
what
900
000
goes
to.
That
is
the
quarter
mill.
If
we
go
up
a
quarter
mil
that's
what
it'll
generate
so
you're
wrong
there
as
well.
The
third
part
is
yeah,
the
1.2
million.
A
L
J
That
portion
that
you're
looking
at
there
is
what
the
current
millage
rate
is.
The
the
the
commissioners
adopted
an
additional
900
000
to
fill
the
gap
of
the
that
you
see
in
the
total
for
the
budget.
So
what
you
see
there
is
the
current
millage
rate
that
we
currently
have.
That
is
what
that
number
is
set
at.
J
That's
the
revenue
that
the
new
that
the
original
millage
rate
generates
the
900
that
the
mayor
is
speaking
about
is,
if
we
raise
which
we
have
raised,
we
have
set
a
proposed
build
rate
of
a
quarter
of
a
point,
and
so
therefore
that
would
generate
the
nine
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars.
That's
where
the
900
comes
from.
J
L
L
A
And
I
don't
think
that
the
net
revenue
from
if
you
go
back
and
look
at
the
numbers
for
red
light
cameras.
I
don't
think
the
net
revenue
is
anywhere
near
that
number,
but.
L
A
D
That
particular
line
item
is
just
the
the
ramping
down
of
the
closure.
That's
the
remaining
infractions
that
were
still
outstanding
from
my
understanding.
D
The
height
of
that
program,
the
city
was
netting
just
shy
of
a
million
dollars
a
year,
so
nine
hundred
and
something.
D
But
all
from
my
understanding,
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
other
speakers
here
so
I'll.
Just
I'll
tell
my
comments
to
the
end,
but
what
I
would
ask
is
and
I'll
just
kind
of
carry
on
from
the
conversation
I
had.
The
last
meeting
is
generally
speaking,
what
what
is
the
ask,
though
you
know,
and
for
this
year,
knowing
where
we're
at
this
year?
What
is
the
comfort
level
that
you
all
feel
knowing
that
we're
probably
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
you
what
it's
been?
D
You
know
the
past
few
years,
but
you
know
what's
what's
middle
ground
here,
that
we
can
start
talking
through
because,
like
we
like
we've
all
said
you
know,
the
final
final
date
is
until
september
9th.
So
I
think,
there's
still
some
opportunity
for
us
to
all
discuss
this
at
the
council
level.
H
L
Have
any
sort
of
unreasonable
or
unrealistic
expectation,
but
if
you
remove
a
merit-based
program,
then
you
remove
incentives
for
performance
right.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
show
up
to
work
and
get
a
raise,
but
that's
not
the
way
we
do
business.
We
never
have.
A
I
don't
think
anybody's
disagreeing
with
that.
I
I
would
not
disagree
with
that.
I'd
love
to
have
a
merit
base
and
I'd
love
to
be
four
or
five
percent.
I
mean
there's
no
doubt
but
but
we
felt
like
the
employees
deserve
something,
but
yet
we
can't
you
know,
we've
got
you
know
500
employees
in
every
one
point.
Everybody
figured
across
the
board
from
public
services
to
admin
to
fire
and
police
is
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
L
Drive
the
book
off,
if
I
may,
the
frustration
lies
in
the
fact
that
when
I
asked
the
chief
about
this
because
we
get
upset
with
him
for
not
because
we
don't
think
he's
lobbying
for
us,
but
when
I
asked
him
about
this,
he
says
that
the
first
he
hears
about
these
budget
cuts
is
on
a
powerpoint
last
month.
L
A
But
it's
like
okay,
guys,
here's
where
we're
at
we
got
to
get
got
this
we've
got
to
do
and
then
here's
what
we'd
like
to
do
and
and
raises
were
a
part
of
that
merit
raises
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
we're
a
part
of
that
discussion,
but
we
just
we.
I
don't
know
how
we
get
there
and-
and
it's
not
to
say
in
january,
if,
if
we're
wrong
and
and
the
sales
tax
comes
back,
it's
not
to
say,
we
can't
do
something
at
that
point.
But
but
you
know
it's
it's.
A
A
That
hey
you
know,
that's
okay,
you're
gonna
pay
more
property
tax,
so
we
can
give
our
guys
more
money.
I
you
know
it's.
So
it's
a
struggle
for
us
up
here
is
to
how
do
we
how
we
balance
out?
You
know
paying
our
employees
what
they
deserve
and
and
need
and
taking
care
of
the
constituents
who
right
now
are
struggling.
I
mean
it's.
I
got
a
a
big
construction
company
that
just
laid
off
400
a
month
ago.
I
got
another
electrician,
just
laid
off
50..
A
So
what
do
I
tell
those
guys
that
are
out
of
a
job
that
would
love
to
have
a
pay
of
their
old
pay
they
take?
I
was
at
I
was
at.
I
was
at
the
get
my
car
washed
and
I'm
sitting
there.
Next
to
the
guy
a
couple.
The
lady's
got
her
job
she's,
a
teacher.
A
The
husband
works
for
a
big
hotel
company
down
on
international
drive
and
he
said
man.
He
said
I'd.
Love
to
you
know
he's
because
he
said
man,
I
can't
believe
they're
complaining
about
you
know
raises.
I
said
what
do
you
mean
he
says
I
just
said
I
got
you
know
they
brought
us
all
in
laid
off
25
percent
of
us.
The
rest
of
us
said
you
know
what
it's
30
reduction
in
paid,
no
bonuses,
take
it
or
leave
it.
He
goes
so
where
am
I
going
to
get
another
job
in
a
hotel
in
central
florida?
A
I
said.
No,
I
know
it's
it's
a
challenge,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
challenge,
and
so
I
think
we
we
all.
We
all
want
to
get
to
where
you
want
to
be,
and-
and
I
don't
think
anybody
here
is-
you
know
you
know
opposed
to
giving
raises.
But
man
it's
just
it's
a
tough
time
to
to
look
for
money
when
when
the
constituents
are
struggling
at
least
as
hard
as
you
guys
are.
L
B
Oh
okay!
Well,
ms
anderson,
yes,
okay,
I'm
glad
you're
here
today
and
I
was
the
one
that
made
the
comment
last
week
and
hoping
that
whoever
it
was
would
come
forward
and
the
reason
why
I
did
because
there
were
several
officers
also
emailed
and
said
that
they
were
not
a
part
of
that
letter
and
they
were
perfectly
happy.
And
so
I
wanted
to
see
who
it
was
that
actually
wrote
the
letter
of
really.
B
B
Yes,
that's
more
than
one
and
and
as
I
looked
at
the
letter,
there
were
at
least
two
things
in
there
that
I
agree
with
you
on.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
other
stuff
had
been
left
out
would
have
probably
been
more
beneficial
and
made
a
better
impact,
and
one
thing
was:
I
agree
that
the
deputy
chief
position
needs
to
be
filled.
B
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
our
police
department
patrols
our
city
and
takes
care
of
its
citizens
and
solve
crime,
and
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
lessen
the
number
of
officers,
but
would
rather
give
him
the
two
additional
officers
that
he
asked
for
and
so
so
those
two
items
in
your
letter.
I
agree
with.
I
understand
the
the
fact
that
you,
you
really
want
the
merit
pay
and
it's
not
that
we're
taking
it
away.
B
All
we're
saying
is
that,
based
on
our
budget
this
year
that
we're
not
able
to
give
the
merit
that
you're
desiring
this
year
and
all
we're
asking,
is
you
to
work
with
us
and
let's
be
team
players
and
allow
us
to
get
through
this
budget
year
and
see
what
next
year
looks
like,
because
we
don't
want
to
be
fighting
against
one
another.
We
want
to
work
together
and
if
we
are
working
together
and
pulling
the
load
the
same
way
we'll
do
that.
You
just
heard
the
guy
from
public
works.
B
He
came
in
and
he's
saying
that
they
want
to
raise
too.
So
it
wouldn't
be
fair
to
play
partiality
towards
one
department
when
we
value
all
of
our
employees,
and
so
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
give
all
of
them
a
merit
raise
and
so
we're
asking
if
you'll
be
a
team
player.
Work
with
us
allow
us
to
get
through
this
year
and,
let's
see
what
next
year
looks
like.
L
Well,
commissioner,
with
all
due
respect,
I
think
something
very
similar
was
said
two
years
ago
and
we
had
a
one-year
pause
in
which,
let's
be
honest,
somebody
in
this
room
got
a
big
raise,
and
here
we
are
in
the
third
year
fighting
the
same
battle.
So
again,
respectfully,
that's
a
politician's
promise
in
it.
L
D
I
want
to
empathize
a
little
bit
on
both
sides
here
and
just
lay
the
groundwork
of
how
we've
gotten
to
where
we've
gotten,
thus
far
right
so
going
into
our
budget
workshops
again.
That
to
me
personally,
is
our
time
to
air
this
stuff
out,
and
I've
heard
I've
heard
what
you've
said
in
terms
of
communication.
There
was
a
general
unawareness
again,
if
that's
a
top-down
messaging
issue
or
if
that's
just
general
awareness.
D
There
was
a
miss
because
we're
having
this
conversation
now
not
during
the
budget
workshops,
because
during
the
budget
workshops,
we
should
have
been
saying:
hey
man,
if,
if
we're
not,
if
we're
not
doing,
these
merit
increases
commiserate
to
what
our
benchmark
cities
and
other
agencies
are
doing,
we
stand
to
not
even
we
stand
not
to
be
able
to
fill
positions,
we
stand
to
attract
additional
positions,
et
cetera,
so
that
time,
we've
missed
that
opportunity
and
we're
here
today
the
the
the
comment
from
nori
earlier,
I
I
disagree
and
here's
why?
What
was
it?
D
I'm
sorry,
the
the
idea
that
a
general
employee
is
the
same
as
a
police
employee,
which
is
the
same
as
a
fire
employee.
I
fundamentally
disagree,
there's
high-risk
components
to
police
and
fire
so
much
so
I
you
know,
and
last
night
I
actually
went
for
a
ride-along
during
the
night
shift
on
a
police
patrol
last
night
and
it
was
eye-opening
just
the
sheer
volume
and
variances
of
the
types
of
calls
in
the
in
the
in
the
positions
that
you
all
are
put
in.
D
I
get
how
the
administration
has
come
up
with
the
one
percent
cola,
because
they're
trying
to
deal
with
a
a
revenue
shortage
that
we
haven't
seen
in
recent
years.
So
it's
it's
a
mechanism
to
say,
okay,
how
do
we
start
to
at
least
give
the
employees
something?
And
here
we
are
again
there
was
comments.
D
When
you
really
look
at
it,
the
average
home
that
would
come
on
the
rolls-
and
we
probably
average-
maybe
four
or
450
ceos
on
a
good
year
that
come
onto
our
tax
base,
we're
not
talking
about
a
whole
bunch
of
money
and
it's
quite
the
inverse
relationship.
We
invest
almost
60
percent
in
public
safety,
whereas
our
our
ad
valorem
property
tax
revenue
only
comprises
maybe
20
percent
less
than
that,
so
it's
a
kind
of
an
inverse
relationship.
So
any
time
that
we
just
say
across
the
board,
we're
going
to
get
six
percent
pay
increase.
D
You
almost
have
to
grow
your
property
tax
base
by
12
or,
more
but
again
just
factually
speaking,
but
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
we're
asking
for
is
some
certainty,
long-term
certainty.
You
know,
I
think
some
of
the
drivers
of
this
was,
I
think,
when
the
mayor
had
done.
Some
stuff
to
inspect
the
pension
program.
I
think
there
was
some
some
concern
there,
some
maybe
some
misinformation.
D
But
I
think
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
general
employee
pool
and
if
you
look
at
the
public
safety
high
risk
positions,
if
you
even
did
another
percent
for
general
and
another
two
percent
for
public
safety
you're
looking
at
about
614
000
that
we
would
need
to
go
and
find
between
now
and
september
9th.
I
think
that
personally
is
doable.
D
I
think
that
we
had
some
bloat
in
some
of
the
software
systems
that
we
decided
about
asset
management.
Some
of
these
other
things,
I
think,
there's
some
opportunities
for
us
to
find
some
dollars,
but
I
think
that
we
can
do
something
if
we
all
put
our
heads
together
long-term
strategy.
I
think
it's
a
strategy,
conversation
it's.
What
is
our
merit
policy?
What's
our
cola
policy,
because
that's
kind
of
we
haven't
really
done
cola
here
in
past
years.
It's
been
more
that
merit
system.
D
So
is
there
a
happy
medium
between
setting
a
certain
cola
percentage
to
make
sure
that
people
have
confidence
and
assurance
that
they're
going
to
get
something
year
over
year?
And
then
how
do
you
build
merit?
On
top
of
that?
That's
in
a
reasonable
spot
that
you
have
confidence
as
a
council
on
us
that
we
act
as
your
kind
of
quasi
union
without
having
union
representation,
because
I
think
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
going
to
add
a
layer
of
complexity
and
negotiations
that
I
don't
think
any
part.
Any
side
of
this.
D
But
have
to
enter
into
because
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
mutually
supportive
relationship
that
we
need
to
have,
and
that's
that's
where
we
have
to
get
to,
but
I
think
we're
at
right
now
as
late
in
the
game,
I
would
position
ourselves
to
add
another
one
percent
for
general,
two
percent
for
public
safety
on
top
of
the
coal
that
we
already
have
find
that
additional
615k
give
or
take,
because
I'm
using
large
numbers
here
and
and
and
go
that
route,
and
so,
if
there's
other
speakers
that
come
up,
you
can
challenge
that
notion.
O
Members
of
the
council,
can
I
advise
you
on
one
thing:
if
there
are
other
members
of
the
police
department
who
wish
to
speak
as
part
of
their
public
comment,
they
have
the
right
to
do
so.
O
So
I
would
advise,
allow
the
public
to
speak,
listen
to
their
comments
and
then
move
on
to
the
next
to
the
next
speaker,
without
engaging
in
any
back
and
forth,
because
I
do
not
want
any
statements
that
may
be
able
that
may
be
prejudicing
the
city
when
this.
Since
this
matters
already
before
perk.
K
Okay,
robert.
P
After
the
last
conversation,
I'm
gonna
actually
yield
my
time
back
to
you
and
just
say
that
I
really
do
hope
that
you
follow
through
with
what
commissioner
becker
has
said,
and
I
think
that
he's
really
working
for
the
employees.
So
I
yield
my
time.
K
M
Mr
mayor
councilman,
thank
you
for
listening
to
me.
I'm
not
going
to
take
four
minutes.
I
just
want
to
say
one
thing
about
the
general
employees.
Respect
them,
love
them,
but
as
you
see
I'm
dressed
right
now,
I
got
a
bullet
proof
vest
on
I
go
out
and
you
rode
with
me
last
night
you
see
what
we
get
into.
M
M
N
Good
evening,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
evening,
I'm
jeff
condello
owner
of
randall.
We
have
construction,
mostly
construction
companies.
We
are
located
at
3307
clarcona
road
here
in
the
city
of
apopka,
and
we
employ
about
1500
people
from
that
location,
around
500
of
them
or
I
think
around
400
of
them
are
on
that
property
and
we
employ
well
over
300
people
that
work.
Sorry
that
live
in
apopka.
N
So
I
want
to
thank
the
the
apopka
city
staff
for
working
closely
with
us
and
helping
us
through
the
the
construction
and
the
the
great
things
that
we're
doing
down
there
on
the
30
acres
that
we
that
we
live
on
there
at
our
headquarters
there
in
the
city
of
apopka-
and
so
I
want
to
thank
them.
It's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
them
and
they
work
closely
with
us.
What
we're
doing
down
there
is.
What
I'm
here
to
talk
about
is
we're
doing
a
school.
N
It's
called
randall
academy
and
it's
it's
in
conjunction
with
orange
county
public
schools.
It's
only
the
second
time
that
they've
ever
done
this
in
the
history
of
orange
county
public
schools
and
we're
so
we're
starting
off
with
10
students,
and
we
just
interviewed
them
over
the
last
couple
weeks,
and
so
we've
we've
picked
10
students
that
are
going
to
attend
the
school
starting.
N
I
think
I
think
august
25th
and
they
showed
up
with
their
parents
and
they
the
kids,
showed
up
and
they're
very
excited
and
very
passionate
about
attending
the
school
and
we're
all
excited
on
the
campus.
There
we're
going
to
have
a
mentoring
program
for
them
and
so
they're
going
to
spend
half
their
day
doing
academics
and
the
other
half
working
on
our
campus
learning
accounting
purchasing
department,
plumbing
electrical
fire
protection.
N
We
do
precast
concrete,
we
do
site
work,
we
do
a
lot
of
different
things
that
they
can
learn
and
and
be
a
part
of
when
on
the
other
half
of
their
day
and
just
gives
them
something
different
to
look
at
with
their
with
their
lives
and
where
they're
going,
and
I
think
we
can
really
help
them
and
impact
the
students.
So
we're
really
excited
about
doing
that.
So
and
we're
happy
to
do
that
in
the
city
of
apopka,
and
we
appreciate
again
the
staff
working
closely
with
us
and
getting
this
done.
N
So
we
expect
to
get
our
ceo
this
week
there
so
and
it's
all
been
expedited,
so
we've
kind
of
rushed
it
along
and
do
with
the
covet
19
and
everything.
So
we
work
through
some
obstacles
and
again
appreciate
everybody
working
with
us.
N
So
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
is
is
when,
after
I,
after
I
did
the
I
put
over
half
a
million
dollars
in
the
building,
I
bought
the
building
and
then
we
invested
over
250
000
and
fixing
the
building
up
for
the
kids
and
making
it
like
brand
new
for
them
to
come
into
and
and
attend
school.
N
And
so
I
received
an
invoice
from
the
from
the
city
building
department
for
for
the
impact,
sorry
for
the
permit
fees,
which
I
was
fine
with,
and
then
I
received
some
impact
fees
of
of
52
000
for
the
school,
and
it
was
a
shock
to
me
and-
and
I
didn't
plan
on
it
and
so
the
part
of
the
fees,
the
the
fire
and
the
the
police.
This
would
be
appropriate
for
for
the
conversation
here
this
evening.
I'm
happy
to
pay
those
very
happy
to
pay.
N
Those
appreciate,
definitely
the
first
responders
and
all
they
do
for
the
city
of
apopka
and
for
for
the
public
in
general,
but
the
there's
a
traffic
impact
fee
of
43
000
and
I
don't
think
that's
fair
and
reasonable.
It's
it's!
Not
all
we're
going
to
have
is
a
bus
with
10
kids,
that's
going
to
show
up
and
three
teachers
that
are
going
to
be
there,
and
so
there's
not
going
to
be
any
traffic
impact.
N
There
was
actually,
I
think,
10
to
15
people
that
were
working
at
the
building
when,
when
I
bought
it,
so
we're
actually
going
to
be
actually
less
on
the
traffic.
If,
if
you
look
at
it
that
way-
and
so
I
asked
respectfully-
ask
to
have
the
the
traffic
impact
fee
of
forty
three
thousand
dollars
eliminated
or
at
least
greatly
reduced-
and
I
would
appreciate
that
and
the
other
thing
that
I'm
gonna
do
there-
is
I'm
gonna,
there's
a
road
that
comes
down.
N
So
I
think
we're
good
citizens
for
the
community
and-
and
we
really
look
forward
to
impacting
and
helping
being
more
involved
in
the
apopka
community,
which
we've
done
here
recently
with
through
reimagined
communities,
have
gotten
involved
and
helped
us
out.
We've
been,
we've
gotten
involved,
done
a
book
bag
for
the
kids,
200,
kids,
and
so
we're
we're
looking
forward
to
being
more
involved
in
the
community
as
we
grow
as
a
company,
and
so
we
intend
to
keep
going,
and
so
with
that
said
I'll.
Thank.
A
O
Well,
impact
fees
are
statutorily
mandated
and
then
approved
by
the
by
code,
and
the
impact
fees
are
based
on
a
there's,
a
formula
that
is
done
to
calculate
what
are
the
impact
fees
based
on
the
uses?
They're
done.
I
do
not
believe
this
council
has
the
authority
to
waive
impact
fees,
there's
just
no
authority
to
do
so.
O
The
impact
fees
are
part
of
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
it's
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
therefore
the
council
does
not
have
the
authority
to
waive
impact
fees
under
the
statute
under
both
the
statute
and
your
code.
N
A
Ocps
would
still
have
to
pay
it,
so
we
I
just
we
just
opened
up
the
cf
prep
academy
out
on.
Is
it
martin
road?
I
mean
it's
obviously
quite
a
bit
bigger
66
000
square
feet
and
their
total
impact
fees
were
606
thousand
dollars
for
school
to
non-profit
private
school.
So
I
mean
it
it.
A
O
There's
still
there's
certain
requirements
and
impact
fees
are
basically
statutorily
mandated
in
order
to
to
ameliorate
the
impact
right
that
a
development
has
upon
the
city's
services
and
for
that
development
to
pay
for
its
impact
on
the
services
and
those
figures
are
statutory.
There's
a
formula:
that's
right,
it's
a
formula
that
is
that
is
established
and
set,
and
this
the
council
does
not
have
the
authority.
D
To
waive
them
the
only
the
only
question
I
would
have,
as
it
relates
to
the
traffic
impact
fees.
I
know
that
the
police
on
fire-
we
have
it's
pretty
much
the
sound
formula
there
in
terms
of
traffic.
Is
there
any
guidelines
there
to
having
that
lesson
due
to
if
the
applicant
can
prove
to
mr
randall's
point
that
you
know
the
those
are
the
lack
of
true
impact
that
might
happen
as
a
result
of
this
particular
construction.
That.
O
Would
have
been
at
the
time
of
whatever
type
of
development
approval,
then
a
traffic
study
would
have
been
done.
So
if
you,
if
a
traffic,
usually
in
a
way
to
negotiate
or
to
minimize
or
what
to
determine
what
the
impact
fees
are
and
most
developers
have
your
traffic
impact
statements
and
therefore
you're
going
to
then
adjust
or
try
to
find
your
equivalent
uses
to
show
that
your
impacts
are
less.
And
then
you
take
those
impacts
and
you
apply
them
to
the
formula
for
what
derives
of
the
fee.
O
O
Then
they're
eligible
for
impact
fee
credits,
because
they've
paid
for
the
improvements
that
would
have
had
to
have
been
done
performed
by
the
city
and
therefore
you'll
get
a
credit
for
that
for
performing
those
that
work
on
behalf
of
the
public
kind
of
like
what
amazon's
doing
right,
correct
or
any
other
ones
where
you
have
impact
fee
credits
or
you're,
also
payment
upfront,
a
proportionate
share
where
you're
making
a
certain
payment
in
order
to
to
basically
alleviate
your
proportionate
share
of
the
impact
of
your
development
on
the
city's
infrastructure
in
this
case
would
be
transportation.
O
N
N
C
C
C
O
N
A
A
G
D
A
Business
designate
a
chair
for
the
professional
dotting
service
evaluation
committee,
jamie.
Q
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
commissioners,
jamie
robertson,
finance
director
before
you
today,
we
have
a
professional
auditing
services
and
evaluation
committee
request
by
statute.
The
statute
recently
changed
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
this
committee
has
to
be
chaired
by
a
person
from
the
elected
candidate
area
and
be
at
a
minimum,
be
presented
with
three
total
members,
so
administrative
selection
was
provided
for
the
two
remaining
members
for
the
appointment
to
the
committee,
which
is
another
finance
director
from
the
city
of
oviedo
who
lives
in
this
area.
Q
His
name
is
mr
jerry
boop
and
a
local
resident,
who
is
a
cpa
in
the
city
of
apopka
named
mr
steve
laro,
and
then
we
would
like
you
guys
to
make
a
selection
for
who
will
be
the
chairman
of
this
committee
for
the
audit
rfp.
This
rfp
is
an
rfp
to
select
our
auditors,
who
will
do
our
financial
audit
for
the.
A
G
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
I
would
be
willing
to
as
well.
I
know
you
you
have
the
like
a
popcorn
natural
gas
kind
of
tasked
extra
on
you
and
and
alexander.
I
know
you
represented
the
state,
but
again
I'm.
D
R
A
Need
a
motion
for
the
other
two
or
are
they
just
about
automatic
approvals?
You
need
to
approve
them.
Yes,
okay,
you
need
a
motion.
I
hope
everybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
yeah.
Just
so
so
happens
jerry,
although
done
living
apopka
lives,
has
an
apopka
dress
and
then
steve
laro
has
been
a
member
of
of
chamber
and
good
guy
here
in
apopka,
so
need
a
motion
to
attract.
Q
I
A
A
G
G
A
K
So
ordinance
number
2780
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
changing
the
zoning
from
transitional
t
to
planned
development,
pd
for
certain
real
property
generally
located
west
of
north
orange
blossom
trail
and
north
of
hogshead
road
comprising
349.37
acres,
more
or
less
owned
by
american
sanford
4
llc,
stephen
r,
rubrate,
jp
holdings,
inc,
rubric
properties,
llc
rubric,
family
lp,
james
scott
pridgen,
douglas
and
lisa
cerret
and
james
p,
purdy,
providing
for
directions
to
the
community
development,
director,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
Okay,.
I
This
is
what
we're
recommending
to
clarify
that
it's
an
overall
pud,
but
within
that
pud,
when
we
get
developers
coming
in
they're,
going
to
take
different
sections
of
the
pud
and
do
sub
puds
within
that,
if
they
don't,
if
they
need
additional
information
for
that
particular
development.
This
is
where
they
can
do
a
separate
pud
within
the
master,
pud
master
plan
itself.
So
we're
looking
at
clarifying
this
as
a
separate
pud
agreement.
D
The
only
question
I
have
with
legally
speaking,
I
asked
the
same
one
during
the
last
hearing
is
the
any
subsequent
pd
would
still
go
by
the
mandate
that
only
light
and
heavy
industrial
as
part.
I
I
A
A
K
Ordinance
2776
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
amending
the
future
land
use
element
of
the
apopka
comprehensive
plan
of
the
city
of
apopka,
changing
the
future
land
use
designation
from
agriculture
to
industrial
for
certain
real
property,
located
east
of
clarcona
road
and
north
of
stone,
road
comprising
5.85
acres,
more
or
less
and
owned
by
3307,
south
claircona
llc,
providing
for
severability
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
Okay,.
A
G
G
K
27.87,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
amending
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
apopka
by
amending
chapter
26,
cemeteries,
section,
26-4
fees
by
creating
chapter
26,
section,
26-13,
cemetery,
perpetual
care
fund
providing
for
codification,
providing
for
severability,
providing
for
conflicts
and
setting
an
effective
date.
Okay,.
K
K
I
A
G
K
S
Good
evening,
mayor
commissioners,
what
you
have
before
you
basically
is
a
resolution
for
the
creation
of
a
special
assessment
area
for
clarification.
We
do
have
a
resolution
going
on
for
two
readings.
One
was
to
allow
the
public
to
have
enough
interest
to
come
in
and
address
you.
Should
they
so
elect
to
do
that?
So
it's
a
little
bit
out
of
the
ordinary
that
we
normally
do
two
readings
of
real
solution,
but
I
wanted
to
give
a
day
and
a
night
meeting,
so
everybody
got
their
opportunity
to
come
in.
S
Basically,
the
resolution
is
dealing
with
phase
two
where
we
had
the
failure
of
the
retention
pond.
There
is
two
phases
to
martin
place:
phase
one
which
was
the
original
phase
that
was
developed
and
then
phase
two.
The
pond
did
have
the
ownership.
The
pond
was
by
the
homeowners
association
that
homeowners
association
was
created
in
seven
of
1987,
and
then
it
moved
to
a
dissolved
category
by
the
corporate
sunbiz
corporation
tracker
in
1011
of
1991..
S
The
city
did
at
that
time
create
a
case
on
it
for
code
enforcement
violations.
Unfortunately,
because
it
was
owned
by
the
homeowners
association
we
had
nowhere.
Nowhere
else
to
go
with
it,
so
we
we
did
everything
we
could
do
on
our
side.
The
fees
that
are
going
to
be
assessed
have
not
been
published.
Yet
all
this
is
doing
is
notifying
the
state
of
our
intent
and
the
county
and
the
property
appraiser
of
our
intent
to
create
the
assessment
after
january.
S
S
S
I
got
no
response
from
that.
We
did
finally
locate
somebody
that
used
to
be
on
the
board
years
ago,
but
he's
long
since
moved
from
there
mignon
and
we've
been
working
with
him
to
try
to
resolve
the
the
ownership
of
the
property
in
order
to
get
it
transferred
into
the
city.
So
we
can
make
sure
here's
forth
that
it's
taken
care
of.
S
We
also
before
this
meeting.
I
did
send
out
a
second
notice
that
we
were
having
a
public
hearing
for
the
creation
and
the
enabling
resolution
to
create
those
assessments.
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear:
we've
we've
reached
out
and
tried
to
make
proper
notification
to
each
property
owner
before
the
council
makes
any
action
on
it
and
I'll
be
more
than
happy.
D
S
Single
there's
there's
two:
the
first
phase
didn't
really
have
what
they
call
an
hoa.
They
had
an
architectural
review
board
and
they
would
be
separate
because
it
was
developed
and
run
under
a
separate
paul,
not
really
even
an
hoa
document.
It
just
addressed
architectural
review.
The
second
one
actually
did
have
an
established
hoa,
so
they
would
be
totally
separate.
We
do
have
to
go
address
phase
one,
because
that
pond
has
not
been
taken
care
of
either
but
that'll
be
a
whole
separate.
That's
right!
Okay,.
A
C
Good
evening,
victor
ollis,
a
long-time
resident
at
martin
place,
phase
two
and
I've
had
some
conversations
with
mr
forever
chuck
river
and
my
concerns
about
it
and
also
I
had
sent
him
a
couple
emails.
I
haven't
heard
a
response
which
I
understand,
but
at
least
it's
on
file
by
some
of
my
concerns
and
the
reason
I'm
here
is
because
I
just
I
oppose
it,
but
I
understand
the
need
for
it
and
the
reason
I
oppose
it
because
I
don't
think
the
city
ever
filed
for
any
bids
for
the
work.
C
I
was
told
that
they
used
a
current
contractor
to
save
money.
That's
my
first
concern.
C
Okay,
okay
for
the
the
fix
okay,
mr
lavereck,
there
were
no
bids
use
the
current
contractor
to
save
cost.
C
My
other
concern
is
the
delays
of
the
project
with
all
the
rain
washouts
I've
been
there
several
times,
looking
at
it
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
rain
washouts
and
I
think
it's
going
to
cause
an
added
expense
since
it's
been
delayed
for
so
long.
If
we
have
a
hurricane
come
through
it's
going
to
wash
out
again
and
because
of
those
washouts,
I
think
it's
going
to
cost
more
money.
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
case
or
not,
I
don't
know
why
it's
taken
so
long
to
repair
the
pond.
C
C
C
There's
cars
in
the
grass
there's
four
or
five
six
cars
in
the
yards:
there's
utility
trailers,
there's
trash
buildup
in
the
yards,
broken
fences,
there's
a
boat
in
phase
one
and
in
the
yard,
there's
abandoned
vehicles.
There's
one
vehicle
on
the
side
of
the
house
that
I
know
it's
not
running
and
then.
I
A
C
A
C
And
then
I
think
the
last
thing-
oh,
the
last
thing
I
think,
is
since
we
don't
know
the
price
we
don't
know
the
assessment.
C
Since
you
know
it's
it's
my
impression
is
that
you're
going
to
take
that
project,
whether
it
be
1.5
million
or
whatever,
and
assess
it
across
72
or
phase
two
only.
I
think
it
is
that
whole
area
benefits
from
it,
but
that's
fine,
but
where's
your
financial
responsibility
for
letting
the
area
get
to
the
situation
it
did
and
letting
the
pawn
get
to
the
situation.
It
did.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say.
Okay,
thank
you.
Edward.
J
Yeah
I'd
like
to
give
a
little
information,
if
I
could
and
chuck
can
we
vlad
is
here
also
for
the
for
the
project.
We
give
an
update
on
the
project
where
we
are
on
the
project
and
the
cost
related
to
the
projects
and
how
it
was
an
emergency
situation
because
of
where
we
were
with
the
project.
But
we
got
good
pricing,
so
we
can.
J
J
J
Yeah,
that
and
the
road
right
and
that's
why
that's
why
we
reacted
because
this
project,
this
issue
could
have
turned
into
a
one
two
million
dollar
road
project,
because
it
was
continuing
to
cave
in
towards
vic
road.
So
that's
why
we
addressed
this.
You
know
right
away,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
when
you
see
the
numbers,
when
we
come
back
with
the
numbers,
the
project
was
budgeted
150
right
at
150
000
dollars
for
to
do
the
whole
project.
C
A
J
J
000-
and
I
will
tell
you
when
we
come
back
with
the
numbers
we've
looked
at
the
project-
there
are
some
components
that
are
city
components,
some
of
the
lines
that
are
going
into
the
the
pond.
We
we
see
some
places
where
the
city
should
have
some
responsibility
for
those.
So
when
we
come
back
with
the
numbers
and
everything
for
you,
you'll
be
able
to
see
that
we'll
make
sure
that
that
there's,
a
city
component
the
city
has
is
taking
care
of
that
component
and
then
the
opponent,
the
component,
that's
that's.
J
The
responsibility
of
the
hoa
will
be
the
piece
that
goes
in
those
numbers
and
I'll
tell
you
too,
the
other
thing
so
that
you
know-
and
this
is
so-
you
have
the
information
when
those
numbers
come
back,
they'll
be
options,
you
know
we'll
be
able
of
how
that
those
costs.
We
know
that
we
know
that
it's
it's
too
much
to
put
on
somebody
all
at
one
time
and
so
there'll
be
options
of
ways
that
we
can
amortize
that
cost.
So
it's
not
it's
not
so
it's
manageable
all
right.
So
all
right.
A
L
T
That,
because
the
president
of
the
vice
president
never
did
no
improvements
and-
and
I
really
feel
very
strong-
that
the
city
from
the
moment
that
that
hoh
was
this
myth.
It
was
the
responsibility
of
the
city
to
take
care
of
that
problem,
and
I
know
that
I
live
in
the
far
end
where
the
pond
is-
and
I
know
that
I've
been
there
for
two
well,
I've
been
there
for
later.
I
lived
in
580
and
then
I
moved
to
597,
which
is
the
far
house,
the
only
problem
that
I
see
that
we
have
up.
T
T
I
know
that
when
it
rains
hard,
the
rain
goes
down
and
takes
a
lot
of
trash
and
with
the
city
goes
in
there
and
take
care
of
it,
but
for
some
reason
now
y'all
come
to
us
and
say
you're
the
ones
that
have
to
pay.
For
that.
I
don't
think
it's
fair.
I
really
don't
feel
fair.
I
feel
very
good
about
it
because
most
of
those
renters
they're
lived
in
there.
They're
renters
and
they
don't
care-
and
I
know
the
the
responsibility
is
the
ownerships
of
the
houses.
A
Just
like
yours,
where
you
don't
have
a
strong,
hoa
or
no
or
non-existent
one
so
that
it
gets
taken
care
of,
and
it
gets
put
onto
your
tax
bill
versus
trying
to
collect
the
money
from
each
and
every
individual
homeowner.
So
we
we
hope
to
get
as
we
start
to
ramp
this
up.
We're
going
to
have
a
couple
of
these
lighting
agreements
here,
you'll
see
and
the
next
step
then,
would
be
to
add
storm
water
retention
ponds
and
the
maintenance
of
those
in
these
these
same
units,
these
msbus,
a
taxing
authority.
O
A
S
O
O
So
we
are
working
on
that,
but
just
because
the
hoa
is
dissolved
does
not
mean
that
that
prod,
just
because
a
private
property
is
abandoned,
does
not
mean
that
it
automatically
becomes
the
obligation
nor
the
property
of
the
local
government.
It
still
remains
private
property
and
that
property
owner
still
has
property
rights,
just
like
any
other
homeowner
or
any
other
property
within
the
city.
T
Well,
one
of
the
main
things
that
we
as
a
city
take
a
consideration
that,
where
is
whatever
the
amount
to
be
to
clean,
that
pond,
have
a
consideration
that
most
of
those
at
this
present
time,
half
of
those
neighborhoods
residents
are
not
working
because
of
the
virus
and
one
of
the
things.
I
know
that
january
fairway,
where,
whenever
the
time
is
it's
something
to
you,
ought
to
think
very
seriously
because
there's
most
of
them
don't
work.
A
T
Okay
and
and
one
of
the
things
yeah
I
mean
y'all-
can
put
down
whatever
the
amount
is,
but
you
know-
and
I
know
that
what
you're
thinking
is
that
we're
gonna
you're
gonna,
we
can
pay
for
20
or
10
years
or
15
years,
make
it
the
longest
yeah
make
it
for
the
longest.
Yes,
that
way,
it'd
be
short
of
whatever.
T
T
You
know
I
wa,
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
that
y'all,
but
you
know
I'm
talking
about.
I
was
there
when
I
bought
that
first
house
in
1984
yeah,
and
I
know
they
need
some
improvement.
I
need,
I
know
it
needs
lights.
I
know
that
the
trees
need
to
be
trimmed
because
when
the
city
city
trash
truck
comes
in,
there
knock
all
those
limbs
and
leaves
and
everything
you
know-
I
don't
have
much.
I
don't
have
much
on
that
pump
in
that
pond
up
there.
You
know.
A
A
R
R
It
is
a
lot
of
trees
that
have
built
up
in
that
area
for
many
years,
even
before
that
new
elementary
school
was
put
there
so
to
watch
it
deteriorate
over
those
years
and
never
you
know,
take
care
of
it
and
you
say
it
as
the
private
property
responsibility.
I
believe
you
said
the
people
that
originally
built
that
community
I
am
on
furlough
since
april
1st.
This
would
be
another
hardship
for
me.
I've
recently
buried
my
father.
I
just
recently
buried
my
brother-in-law.
R
R
I
worry
in
my
neighborhood
how
dark
it
is,
there's
so
many
cars
that
park
on
top
of
the
grass
there's
a
lot
of
high
schoolers
that
park
in
our
neighborhood,
because
they
don't
want
to
pay
the
fee
to
park
at
the
high
school
they
just
park
in
our
neighborhood
leave
their
car.
There
go
to
school
come
back,
so
it's
a
lot
of
things
that
I
feel
that
there's
a
lack
of
code
enforcement,
that's
being
done,
and
I
just
want
to
say.
R
S
Just
for
clarification,
the
last
speaker
was
speaking.
She
lives
in
phase
one
we're
not
addressing
phase
one
at
the
current
time.
I
have
reached
out
to
those
individuals
trying
to
see
if
they
do
have
a
board,
but
that's
not
part
of
what's
being
heard
tonight
just
so.
The
council
has
a
clear
understanding.
S
I
have
worked
with
chief
mckinley.
He
is
aware
of
the
code
enforcement
violations.
They
are
working
to
go
through,
I
being
over
code
enforcement
for
so
many
years.
I
do
notice
them
when
I
was
in
there
checking
on
the
pond
and
where
we
stand
so
they
are
working
on
it.
It
is
a
long
drawn
out
process,
but
they
are
taking
action
as
fast
as
they
can
to
address
some
of
those
violations.
S
So
you
understand
that
I
did
speak
with
vladimir
and
they
are
on
on
schedule
to
get
done
within
the
next
two
to
three
weeks,
so
hopefully
we'll
have
that
pond
resolved
with
regards
to
the
cost
in
the
bidding
that
was
an
emergency
purchase.
S
The
city
did
use
an
existing
contract
that
it
had
with
another
with
with
a
building
company
or
a
construction
company
to
make
those
repairs.
That
was
to
save
time
and
effort
on
the
city's
behalf.
So
we
didn't
have
to
do
the
long,
drawn-out
process
any
in
an
emergency
situation.
Just
so
it's
clear
to
the
council
and
with
that,
if
the
council
has
any
more
questions
any
more.
D
No,
I
I
think
the
points
have
already
been
stressed
and
that's
to
say
had
it
gone
further,
we
would
be
talking
about
a
much
higher
burden
of
cost
to
both
martin,
as
well
as
the
people
that
would
have
been
impacted
by
pipe
clogs,
pipe
bursts
over
flooding
all
that
sort
of
washout
that
could
have
occurred.
One
of
the
comment
I
wanted
to
touch
on
too
is
you
know,
depending
on
where
the
tree
location
is
too.
D
All
of
those
trees
would
be
at
the
responsibility
of
homeowners,
the
homeowners
association
in
terms
of
trimming
making
sure
that's
nuisance-free,
that
sort
of
stuff.
Now
we
would
come
in
from
a
like
a
sidewalk.
If
roots
are
you
know
causing
that.
D
S
Yeah
phase
one
doesn't
have
sidewalks
phase,
two
does
have
some
sidewalks,
but
generally
between
the
back
side
of
the
sidewalk,
and
the
roadway
generally
becomes
the
city's
property
for
easement
purposes
and
then
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
house,
is
the
homeowner
so
depending
on
where
those
trees
are
at.
It
can
be
the
individual
property
owner's
responsibility
for
the
maintenance
of
those
trees.
S
We're
looking
at
it
right
now
and
as
soon
as
we
get
the
final
figures,
I've
talked
with
edward
and
we're
talking
15,
possibly
20
years,
we're
we're
going
to
be
as
fair
as
possible.
But
again
those
final
figures
do
come
back
before
the
board
and
the
council
makes
that
final
decision
just
to
make
sure
that
you
feel
the
same
way.
We
do
and
again
we
we're
not
trying
to
take
advantage
of
the
property
owners,
we're
trying
to
work
with
them
and
resolve
the
situation
in
the
pawns.
S
As
michael's
explained
to
you,
it's
it's
in
a
corporate's
name,
so
we're
having
to
do
some
footwork
to
get
it
switched
to
the
city,
because
the
corporation
does
have
rights
just
like
a
property
owner
has
rights,
so
we're
working
on
that
and
and
we
will
retitle
those
those
pawns
will
be
retitled
to
the
city.
We'll
take
further
action
in
maintaining
them
here
on
out
and
if,
if
the
homeowners
in
that
particular
developments
want
to
recreate
at
hoa,
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
sign
them
back
over
to
them
to
take
over
that
maintenance.
S
A
G
S
G
And
so
again,
unfortunately,
we
weren't
here
back
then,
but
we
can
do
something
now
and
we're
working
to
try
and
resolve
this
in
the
best
way,
keeping
it
more
spread
out
for
payments
and
making
it
much
more
feasible
in
that
way
and
then
also
pursuing
as
we
can
legally
than
the
city
then
taking
it
on
and,
as
you
said,
then,
if
they
do
want
to
create
a
new
homeowners
association,
that'll
be
up
to
the
residents
there.
So.
S
And
so
you
understand,
I
want
to
make
it
clear:
there
will
be
a
capital
portion
to
this,
and
then
there
will
be
an
annual
maintenance
for
us
to
cut
that
pond
thereafter,
so
you'll
have
a
capital
portion
for
whatever
we
decide
to
run
that
figure
over
and
then,
after
that
there
will
be
a
small
portion
on
the
on
an
msbu
for
the
continued
maintenance
and
cutting
of
that
pond.
So
we
don't
get
back
in
the
situation
20
or
30
years.
From
now.
G
So
there's
been
no
homeowners
association
fees
collected
since
91
until
now,
so
I
mean,
if
that's
on
one
side,
if
that
you
know
eases
up
just
a
little
bit.
Obviously
this
is
a
difficult
thing.
Thankfully
it
was
caught
before
it
became
a
much
bigger
problem
there,
and
so
we
stay
sensitive
to
those
needs.
S
Yes,
sir,
if
the
trees
on
their
property,
if
if
if
we
were
to
determine
that
it
is
an
imminent
threat
and
it's
over
the
roadway,
the
city
could
go
up
and
cut
it.
But
I
you
know
we
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
each
tree
on
a
one-to-one
basis.
We
just
don't
go
in
and
cut
people's
trees.
S
A
K
2020-17
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
setting
forth
the
city's
intent
to
use
the
uniform
ad
valorem
method
of
collection,
of
a
non-ad
valorem
assessment
for
properties
lying
within
the
oaks
at
kelly
park,
street
lighting
district
in
the
city
of
apopka
to
fund
street
lighting
services
facilities.
Programs.
A
A
A
long
time
ago,
you
know,
because
we
talk
about
you,
know,
budgets
and,
and
for
me
I
want
to
look
at
legacy
costs
the
costs
that
keep
creeping
up
every
year
and
there's
no
there's
no
end
in
sight,
and
so
there's
the
three
of
them
that
we've
we've
now
addressed
or
will
will
address.
One
is
back
in
2011
we
addressed
the
retirement
medical,
which
is
you
know,
we've
just
added
5
million
to
the
liabilities
on
the
city's
books
because
of
the
increased
medical
liability
costs
for
retirees
of
apopka.
A
So
we've
got
got
in
place
that
within
the
next
20
years,
that
will
be
that
will
be
taken
care
of,
and
the
third
is
street
lighting
within
neighborhoods
is
that
we
as
a
city
have
picked
up
all
the
costs
for
street
lights
and
neighborhoods
forever
and,
as
we
add
these
new,
all
these
new
neighborhoods
that
cost-
and
I
think
edward
and
I
just
did
a
real
kind
of
back
of
the
napkin
number.
What
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
right
around
six.
A
Is
what
we're
paying
for
street
lighting
within
these
neighborhoods?
You
know
and
that's
in
every
neighborhood.
You
add
without
this,
these
kind
of
agreements
is
another
five
thousand
and
three
thousand
or
seven
thousand
ten
thousand
dollars.
So
I
I
think
you
know
the
problem.
You
know
we
all
look
for
immediate
solutions,
and
these
are
not
immediate
solutions
but
long
term.
This
will
get
us
into
a
financial.
You
know
stable
position
that
we
can.
We
can
move
forward
with,
and
so
you
know
it's
just
it's
it's
kind
of
neat.
You
know
what
goes
around
comes
around.
A
S
Sure,
basically,
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
again
is
another
enabling
ordinance
or
excuse
me
enabling
resolution.
This
is
creating
a
special
district
for
the
oaks
at
kelley
park.
Oaks
kelley
park
came
through
to
the
council
in
a
planning
development
several
months
ago.
It's
actually
has
some
houses
being
built
in
there,
but
we
have
reached
out
to
the
developer
and
the
developer
has
provided
us
with
the
letter
requesting
that
the
council
consider
putting
this
into
an
msbu
for
future
street
lighting
cost.
S
Those
costs
will
be
assessed
against
the
ad
valorem
tax
bill
when
it
goes
out.
Basically,
what
we
do
is
we
take
the
street
lighting
bill
and
then
we
divide
it
amongst
all
the
residential
properties
within
there
and
then
we'll
pay
the
bill,
but
that
money
will
go
into
a
trust
that
cannot
be
spent
except
for
street
lighting
and
that
money
will
then
be
used
to
spend
or
to
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
street
lighting
within
that
particular
development.
S
We
are
looking
at
in
the
future,
and
I've
worked
with
community
development
in
the
future.
We'll
actually
start
running
these
through.
When
you
see
the
development
plan
come
through
in
the
future,
you
won't
have
all
these
caught
up
in
on
the
far
end,
I'm
just
trying
to
catch
up
where
they're
at
with
future
development.
So
each
of
these
coming
through
they're
they're
in
the
next
three
or
four
meetings,
you'll
see
some
of
the
older
stuff
coming
through
and
then
we'll
move
it
into
where
they
come
through
with
the
the
development
as
they
come
before.
B
H
S
G
D
S
And
aren't
going
with
that
orange
county?
Does
it
actually
the
city
of
vito?
They
actually
spread
it
across
every
property
owner
in
the
whole
city.
They
just
take.
Take
it
all
and
divide
it
throughout
the
whole
thing,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
council's
at
that
point
at
this
particular
time.
I
think
we
address
where
we're
at
and
going
to
the
future
and
then
maybe
at
a
future
date.
We
can
see
where
we're
at
and
maybe
address
it
as
a
whole.
A
And
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
look
at
is
down.
The
road
is
what
orange
county
does
is
not
only
street
lights
but
storm
water
retention
ponds.
They
had
that
because
you
have
a
homeowner
association,
that's
inactive,
you
can
take
care
of
the
street
lights
and
that
the
retention
pond,
keeping
it
mode
keeping
it.
You
know
up.
You
know
up
to
you
know
to
code
with
that
and
msbu.
So
that's
because
what
happens
is
when
you
get
a
real
bad
economy.
A
G
And
I
was
speaking
with
jeff
weber,
jeff
weatherford,
I
think
he's
back
there
and
he
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
this
area
and
he
was
mentioning
we
were
talking
about
lighting
and
he
had
brought
up
the
you
know
where
they
had
had
citizens
in
houston.
They
were
looking
for
street
lighting
when
they
really
talked
with
them.
They
were
looking
for
more
the
pedestrian
lighting
and
he
just
talked
about
the
differences
and
and
some
of
the
new
technologies
that
are
there.
A
K
All
right
resolution
2020-18
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
setting
forth
the
city's
intent
to
use
the
uniform,
advelor
method
of
collection
for
a
non-ad
valorem
assessment
for
properties
lying
within
the
bridal
path,
street
lighting
district
in
the
city
of
apopka
to
fund
the
street
lighting
services
facilities.
Programs.
S
S
A
G
A
Okay,
any
questions
for
mr
fabric,
anybody
from
the
public.
We
should
speak
on
its
matter,
not
we'll
close.
The
public
hearing
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
a
resolution.
Number
20
20-19
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
becker
second
by
commissioner
smith.
All
those
in
favor
all
right
all
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
next
up
resolution:
2020-23,
okay,
jamie.
Q
The
this
also
includes
an
amendment
to
funding
and
appropriations
for
the
martin
road
developers
agreement.
That
is
an
agreement
that
we
entered
into
several
years
ago
for
the
improvements
that
were
made
at
martin
road.
We
only
have
about
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
left
to
pay
off
on
it,
and
the
development
alta
east
shoreline,
there's
about
six
hundred
and
thousand
dollars
that
we've
already
collected
in
impact
fees.
Q
We're
estimating
that
we're
not
going
to
have
to
make
that
payment
that
the
impact
fees
are
going
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
balance
due.
So
this
takes
me
to
have
a
full
payoff
of
the
720
000
that
we
have
and
the
additionally
there
is
a
2019
edward
burn
memorial
jag
county-wide
grant
that's
a
pass-through
from
orange
county
for
the
police
department
for
different
supplies.
This
is
an
operational
grant
that
the
police
file
for
every
year,
that
is
about
12
thousand
dollars.
A
H
K
Resolution
2020-24
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
calling
a
special
election
and
a
runoff
as
needed
for
the
purpose
of
electing
the
city
council
member
for
seat.
True,
two
providing
for
the
qualifying
period
and
election
dates
authorizing
city
clerk
to
proceed
with
all
election
arrangements
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
O
Yeah,
like
I
said
I
may
say
briefly,
this
is
a
resolution
pursuant
to
to
florida
statutes
which
basically
memorializes
what
was
pronounced
in
the
proclamation
at
the
last
meeting.
So
therefore,
this
resolution
now
establishes
the
dates
and
the
procedures
and
move
and
begins
the
process
for
the
special
election
for
the
vacancy
of
c2.
D
Just
just
one
quick
comment,
commissioner:
bankston:
I'm
willing
to
trade
you,
the
chair
of
the
the
audit
board
with
the
canvassing
component
of
this,
because.
H
A
T
G
Well,
obviously,
I
missed
last
time
we
had
a
long-awaited
vacation
for
my
wife
and
I,
which
was
very
wonderful
and
I
unplugged.
So
I
didn't
hear
about
all
the
wonderful
fireworks
and
then
we
had
our
national
conference
that
I
was
a
part
of
so
I
I
hesitated
to
speak
earlier
because
of
our
recommendation
by
council.
G
G
You
know
so
I
think
for
their.
What
I
seem
to
hear
was
they're
not
sure
how
to
approach
that,
and
it
was
a
frustration
that
was
boiling
and
not
sure
who
to
come
to,
and
you
know,
as
you
said,
I
I
think
that
hopefully
we
can
work
together.
I
don't
know
where
it
is
in
the
process
now,
but
so
I
held
any
comment
due
to
what
you
said
there.
My
concern
for
them
was
that
again
everything
comes
back
on
the
table
and
I
don't
want
them
to.
G
You
know
gain
here
and
end
up
losing
here
as
well.
So
I
think
the
heart
is
there
for
the
city.
This
is
a
challenging
time
for
us
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
we
don't
want
to
put
that
on
the
backs
of
the
taxpayers
that
many
of
them
have
lost
jobs.
We've
already
had
to
raise
that,
and
I
you
know
my
concern
was:
is
it
enough
because
we
have
still
variables?
G
As
of
you
know,
just
yesterday,
we
still
hadn't
gotten
our
numbers
to
make
those
decisions
on,
but
I
do
think
there's
some
areas
that
we
can
look
at
and
I
want
to
be
sensitive
to
that.
I
agree.
Well,
I
won't
say
any
more
one
question
that
I
would
have
on.
That
is
one
of
the
things
that
they
were,
that
that
he
was
saying.
Was
there
certain
amenities
that
other
departments
have,
but
is
that
really
apples
to
apples?
G
Are
there
not
other
things
that
we
have
perhaps
in
their
retirement
package,
that
maybe
those
cities
don't
have
that's
what
I
don't
know.
So
I
can't
answer
it
intelligently
and
maybe
through
this
process
we
can
at
least
get
some
of
that.
Maybe
I
don't
know
if
you're
the
one
that
I
should
talk
to
about
that.
A
You
know,
let
me
I
guess
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
say.
I
think
when
you
go
back,
we
were
the
first
city
out
of
the
gate
to
do
workshops
to
to
get
a
proposed
budget,
and
so
a
lot
of
them
are
still
not
even
finished
with
they.
They
had
to
do
the
millage
by
you
know
the
end
of
last
month,
but
they're
not
even
to
the
point.
So
yes,
maybe
it
was
in
that
part
maybe
was
it
was
faster
than
they
thought
it
should
be,
but
you
still
you
figure.
A
That
was
what
the
18th
of
last
month
that
we,
so
we
we've
still
got
until
you
know
our
second
meeting
in
september
to
to
massage
the
budget.
So
a
lot
of
these
cities
have
not
even
started
yet
started
the
process,
and
so
we're
that
far
ahead.
But
we
had
you
know,
here's
the
numbers
we
got
and
here's
how
we
got
to
the
you
know.
It's
I
mean,
there's
no
secret
a
matter
of
fact.
I
left
the
the
the
whole
budget
book
with
you
know,
which
was
you
know,
500
pages
long.
A
I
left
it
a
pd
that
you
know
when
we
we
got
the
anonymous
letter
and
I
said
guys,
take
a
look
at
this.
You
know
what,
whatever
you
know,
whatever
you
see,
you
know
tell
me,
tell
me
what
you
would
do
different,
so
I
I
so
I
think
we
we
try
to
be
definitely
open
and
transparent,
but
I
think
we've
been
so
far
ahead
of
everybody
else
in
the
on
the
curve.
A
As
far
as
that,
you
know
the
budgets
I
mean
edward
and
jamie
have
been
working
nights
and
weekends
to
get
us
so
much
farther
ahead
without
with
the
with
the
with
the
the
understanding
we
don't
know
where
those
numbers
are
going
to
be,
and
we
won't
know,
I
don't
think
we'll
know
in
january
where
those
numbers
are
going
to
be.
I
mean,
I
think,
a.
A
A
That
scares
me,
and
so
I
think,
as
you
know,
the
way
I've
I've
run
our
budgets
and
edward.
You
know
even
more
so
than
I
have.
We
are
going
to
be
conservative
in
the
budgets
and-
and
I
don't
want
to-
I
don't-
want
you
to
get
a
surprise
that
you
like
wow.
Where
are
we
going
to?
What
do
we
got
to
dip
in
the
reserves
for
now
to
pay?
A
G
H
G
We
do
have
time
to
address
those
things,
so
I'm
just
hopeful
that
we're
not
put
into
a
corner
that
will
keep
us
from
being
able
to
work
with
that.
B
Well,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
I
enjoyed
attending
the
florida
league
cities
conference.
B
I
was
a
delegate
to
the
florida
league
of
city
conference
and
it
was
held
virtual
this
state
this
year
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
they
had
a
conference
anyway.
So
I
attended
the
resolution
committee
meeting
by
virtue
by
zoom
on
thursday
and
they
thoroughly
went
through
all
of
the
resolutions
and
discussed
them
all
made
a
few
tweaks
here
and
there,
but
they
always
presented
at
the
annual
meeting.
I
even
saw
our
finance
director
on
zoom
as
well,
so
she
did
a
great
job
representing
the
city
of
apopka
and
then
on
friday.
B
Council
member
isaac,
saever
from
the
town
of
bay,
harbor
retired,
as
the
the
president
and
elected
our
new
president,
tony
ortiz.
The
city
commissioner
for
the
city
of
orlando,
is
our
new
incoming
president
and
our
first
vice
president
is
philip
walker.
The
commissioner
from
lakeland
and
second
vice
president,
is
jolene
cabarrello,
a
city
woman,
councilwoman
from
port
saint
lucie,
so
they
were
all
installed
and
meeting
went
well.
B
They
did
the
presentation
of
the
harris
drew
award
that
was
given
to
the
mayor
from
sanibel
and
they
recognized
their
home
rule
heroes,
and
I
would
like
for
us
to
look
and
see
if
we
can't
find
someone
to
nominate
next
year
for
the
home
rule
heroes,
it
appeared
that
every
city
was
represented,
except
for
apopka,
so
we
can
look
and
see
what
those
requirements
are
and
what
that
category
is
so
that
we
can
nominate
someone
for
that
award,
I
think,
would
be
great
for
recognition,
so
that
went
well.
B
The
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
the
police
firing
and
our
general
employees
understand
that
we
we
value
all
of
them
and
and
when,
when
I
say
that
we
value
all
of
them
is
that
we
don't
want
departments
pitting
against
one
another
either
we
value
all
of
our
employment.
We
understand
that
each
have
different
roles
and
they
have
different
requirements
and
some
are
high
risk
more
than
others,
but
we
value
them
all
and
so
we'll
make
sure
that
we
they
understand
that.
B
I
I
think
the
the
guy
that
comes
to
pick
up
my
trash
is
just
as
valuable
to
the
city
as
the
police
and
the
fire,
because
if
he
doesn't
show
up
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
my
wife
is
going
to
be
on
me.
So
so
so
we
value
all
of
our
employees.
B
D
Yeah,
I
agree
with
the
city,
employees
sentiment
and
just
kind
of
switch
gears
and
again
reiterate
teachers
again,
because
I
can't
I
can't
thank
them
enough.
I
know
that
it's
just
a
challenging
time
right
now,
so
if
there's
any
teachers
watching
so
much
praise
and
gratitude
to
what
they're
doing
I
walked
into
my-
and
I
don't
know
how
my
wife
does
it,
but
I
walked
into
my
seven-year-old's
virtual
class
the
other
day
and
it's
just
it's
like
27
year
olds.
Just
you
know
asking
the
teacher:
where
are
we?
What
are
we
doing?
D
D
I've
got
such
a
tremendous
amount
of
respect
for
what
our
teachers
are
doing,
and
I
hope
that
we
still
continue
that
close
relationship
with
our
school
board
member
to
help
out
in
any
way
that
we
can,
but
just
want
to
keep
praising
all
of
our
teachers
out
there.
So.
J
J
Need
to
fill
so
I'm
excited
you've
seen
his
resume.
You've
all
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
him
one
of
the
exciting
things
as
he
comes
from
houston
from
the
city
of
houston
so,
and
he
has
a
lot
of
experience
and
a
lot
of
knowledge
in
drainage,
roadway
streets,
an
area
that,
as
you
guys
have
all
been
saying
loud
and
clear,
that
we
need
to
put
some
more
focus
and
some
more
resources
into,
and
we've
really
been
working
hard
to
put
more
recess
and
resources
into
that.
So
I
think
we've
got
a
jewel.
J
I
think
we
got.
You
know
very
fortunate
to
have
him
apply
from
texas
and
he
and
his
wife
are
moving,
have
moved
here
to
florida.
They
do
live
in
the
city
of
apopka.
That
is
a
great
thing.
So
we're
excited
and
he's
here-
and
he
can.
I
know,
he's
met
with
you,
but
he
can.
I
don't
want
to
steal
his
thunder
if
he
probably
has
some
things
he
wants
to
say
and
but
looking
for
your
appointment
and
ratification
of
of
jeff
as
our
public
services
director.
A
A
So
jeff
wants
you
because
you're
on
camera,
won't
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
you.
So
for
the
folks
that
haven't
met
you
yet
tell
them.
E
E
Most
recently,
I
spent
about
15
years
with
the
city
of
houston,
where
I
just
retired,
from
as
their
director
of
transportation
and
drainage
operations
that
I'm
certified
as
a
professional
traffic
traffic
operations.
Engineer
served
as
the
city
traffic
engineer
for
houston
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
all
of
the
exciting
things
we're
going
to
be
doing
here
are.
I
G
Oh
just
again,
I
thoroughly
enjoyed
meeting
with
you
and
discussing
we.
We
talked
at
length
and
I
think
your
resume
obviously
speaks
for
itself.
But
we
talked
about
everything
from
pros
and
cons
of
roundabouts
and
just
everything
else,
and
so
really
looking
forward
to
to
working
with
you,
as
as
as
long
as
the
entire
board
feels
well.
B
I
want
to
say
welcome
to
florida
and
I
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
meet
with
you
on.
On
monday,
my
wife
lost
her
sister
on
sunday
night,
so
we
were
in
jacksonville
spending
some
time
with
family,
but
I
did
meet
you
at
the
axe,
throwing
ribbon
cutting
and
was
very
impressed
with
you
on
that
day
and
so
welcome
to
the
city
of
republican.
Thank.
D
And
again,
thank
you
for
the
conversation
that
we
had
on
monday.
It
was
nice
to
be
able
to
chat
with
you.
Let
you
know
what
my
priorities
are
in
terms
of
you
know:
infrastructure,
beautification,
that
sort
of
stuff
and
not
to
make
light
of
the
situation
that
just
happened
in
deland.
My
thoughts
are
with
that
community,
but
I'm
just
happy.
D
You
know,
with
your
background
in
houston,
storms
and
stuff
like
that,
that
didn't
call
you
within
the
last
you
know
week
to
come
and
help
them
out,
because
I
can't
imagine
what
they're
going
through
in
some
of
that
storm
recovery
that
they
have
but
really
excited
about
your
background,
your
experience,
you
know
the
ability
to
have
some
of
your
expertise
in
house
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
go
outsource
party
type
of
stuff.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
to
having
you
on
board.
So
thank
you.
Yeah.
A
I'll
just
finish
up
with
a
so
he's
I
said
well,
so
what
do
you
like
to
do?
He
said
I
love
to
scuba
dive
and
he
said
you
know
the
nice
thing
about
apopkey
says
I'm
less
than
two
hours
to
each
coast,
so
I
can
go
scuba
diving
on
the
west
coast
on
monday
and
then
scuba
dive
on
the
east
coast
on
tuesday
I
go
whoa.
H
A
H
A
J
J
As
you
know,
they
are
the
ones
that
we
have
under
contract
that
are
looking
at
our
water
sewer,
reuse
rates,
storm
water
rates,
they're,
looking
at
our
general
fund,
indirect
allocation
method
and
they're
looking
at
our
school
impact
fee
collection
that
we
get
when
we
collect
the
school
impact
fees,
because
that's
a
requirement
too
that
that's
that
those
are
all
calculated
and
we
receive
notice
from
them
due
to
covid
and
their
process
and
everything
that
they
have
had
to
extend
their
deadline
to
december
30th
2020..
J
So
we've
approved
that-
and
so
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
that's
the
update
that
they're
still
working
through
those
rates
and
again
all
of
that
will
come
back
to
a
public
hearing,
you'll
see
all
of
that
presentation
and
everything.
But
I
want
to
make
you
aware
of
that
so
that
that's
an
issue
that
you've
been
looking
at.
I
know
a
couple
other
things
I
want
to
mention
you've.
I
don't
know
if
you've
heard
yet
or
not.
J
We
had
some
roof
leaking
down
at
public
services
at
the
complex
we
have
reached
out
to
the
insurance
company
because
it
has
some
damage
on
the
inside
of
the
building.
We
have
the
building
dried
out,
got
it
secured.
We
have
the
employees,
you
know,
we've
moved
them
into
the
to
the
better
location
of
the
building,
so
we've
taken
all
the
measures
that
we
need
to
do
there
we've
reached
out
to
the
insurance
company.
J
We
heard
a
little
bit
back
from
the
insurance
company
they're
telling
us
that
there
may
be
some
portion
that
they
may
be
able
to
help
us
recover
because
of
the
the
actual
damage
to
the
to
the
inside
of
the
building
we
are
getting
quotes.
Currently
we're
looking
at
the
the
couple
of
the
vendors,
the
vendor,
that
did
the
half
of
the
the
one
side
of
the
city
hall
roof
we're
getting
some
quotes,
I'm
trying
to
get
some
other
quotes.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
got
a
good
price.
J
What
the
reason
I
want
to
bring
that
up
tonight
is
I'm
not
sure
we're
going
to
we.
Currently,
we
have
the
roof
bid,
the
roof
contractor
that
we're
looking
for
is
out
to
bid.
Now
I
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
have
time
to
get
to
that
on
this
roof.
This
is
an
emergency
situation
and
I
think
this
roof.
We
need
to
take
action
on
this
roof
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
we'll
get
we're
getting
all
the
quotes.
As
you
know,
there
is
funding
in
that
budget.
J
You
had
but
had
you've
refunded
the
roof
in
this
budget
current
year.
J
So
what
I
want,
what
I'm
telling
you
is
that
and
I'll
stay
in
touch
with
you
is
that
we'll
get
those
quotes,
make
sure
we're
getting
the
best
price,
get
the
information
from
the
insurance
company
and
see
if
we
can't
take
care
of
this
roof
situation.
So
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
so
you
had
the
information
so
that
you,
you
weren't,
surprised
again.
We
will
bring
it
back,
whatever
action
happens,
we'll
bring
it
back
so
that
you
have
all
the
information
and
it's
transparent
and
you
can
see
it.
J
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
that
the
road
resurfacing
will
begin
september.
So
you
will
see
again,
it's
been
delayed.
Covet
has
really
really
put
a
toll
on
all
of
our
vendors,
but
we've
really
been
pushing
them
from
our
standpoint.
I'm
glad
jeff's
here
just
in
time
just
in
time
to
make
sure
that
our
road
resurfacing
is
is
is
good,
so
that
should
begin
in
september
around
september,
first
first
week
of
september
or
somewhere
around
there.
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
that
I
thought
I
had
something
else.
A
B
A
O
Right
good
evening,
members
of
the
council
to
make
a
note
to
what
you
had
mentioned
earlier,
council
rebecca.
I
know
most
you're
aware
that
I
actually
still
reside
in
deland.
Thankfully,
my
home
is
actually
on
the
southeastern
portions
of
the
city
and
the
storm
hit
right
in
the
north
central.
However,
the
tornado,
which
has
been
confirmed,
it
was
an
ef-2
with
between
110
and
115
mile
an
hour
winds.
My
wife
received
a
picture,
the
tornado
actually
passed
within
1500
feet
of
my
wife's
office.
O
O
Was
yeah
to
be
rare
to
be
a
confirmed
ef-2,
the
national
weather
service
confirmed
it
as
an
ef-2
based
on
the
damage
and
that
it
actually
it
touched
down.
It
skirted
pretty
much
it's
it's
it.
It
was
just
north
of
the
stetson
campus,
and
that
is
that's
an
area.
That's
really
not
far
from
downtown
deland.
It's
it's
a
heavily
populated
portion
of
the
city.
Thankfully,
there
were
no
injuries
or
deaths
reported,
it's
just
property
damage
and
trees,
uprooted
and
those
things
can
be
fixed
all
right
tonight.
I
want
to
give
you
a
what's.
O
Basically,
the
10
000
foot
view
down
of
the
the
neb
litigation.
As
most
of
you
are
aware,
the
litigation
was
commenced
in
june
of
last
year,
in
which
we
were
filing
an
action
against
the
billing
provider
for
emergency
services.
Where
the
lawsuit
stands
today,
they
fi
neb.
We
have
three
defendants.
Nab
three
rivers
who
is
alleged
to
be
a
sub
is
alleged
to
be
the
actual
parent
company
of
neb
and
mr
david
sulik
who's,
the
individual
who
negotiated
the
contracts
on
behalf
of
neb
and
we
believe
in
their
allegations
that
were
asserted.
O
That
david
sulak
has
enough
contacts
with
three
rivers
in
which
the
court
has
actually
ruled
that
there
is
enough
to
tie
three
rivers
to
to
neb
for
the
case
to
move
forward
recently
was
shortly
after
I
joined
the
city.
The
circuit
court
did
grant
in
part
and
deny
in
part
three
rivers,
nebs
and
mr
sulik's
motion
to
dismiss
they
granted
them.
Mr
sulix
individual
motion
to
dismiss,
because
of
the
way
the
complaint
was
originally
written,
they
did
not
find
there
were
enough
facts
in
the
complaint
to
tie
mr
sulik
to
the
to
the
counts.
O
The
way
it
was
drafted
it
was
all
three
were
drat,
where
all
allegations
were
in
all
counts
were
on
all
three
together
since
then,
we
have
amended
the
complaint
narrowed
down
the
counts,
because
there
were
some
aspects
who
I
think,
which
I
believe
they
were
duplicative.
As
I
took
a
second
look
at
the
complaint
and
we
narrowed
it
down
to.
O
O
O
Once
we
submitted
our
amended
complaint,
we
actually
submitted
a
counteroffer
a
counter
settlement
offer,
because
these
are
confidential
settlement
negotiations.
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
the
details
of
the
settlement
offer
here
at
the
public
hearing
tonight.
I
will,
if
you
wish,
speak
with
each
one
of
you
individually
to
present
you
what
the
the
offer
and
the
counter
counteroffer
are.
O
O
We've
been
weighing
the
the
options
and
I
think,
if
I'm
available
to
speak
to
each
one
of
you
individually
to
discuss
what
is
there
and
as
and
also
give
you
each
ramification
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
offers
and
and
counter
offers,
and
then,
when
it's
time
to
time,
to
make
a
decision.
I
would
advise
we
sit
in
executive
session
to
to
go
over
all
of
those
things
in
the
dependency
of
the
action.
We
have
continued.
O
I've
continued
to
work
with
the
fire
department
and
there
are
some
concerns
that
we
have
regarding
record
keeping
on
the
part
of
both
neb
and
three
rivers.
The
biggest
concern
we
have
is
that
they're
still
in
possession
of
all
the
records-
and
my
biggest
concern-
is
those
are
public
records
pursuant
to
chapter
119,
yet
they're
being
held
being
held
outside
of
the
state
of
florida,
and
I
think
there
are
certain
impacts
that
I
am
concerned
with,
which
will
weigh
on
when
how
and
when
we
we
weigh
the
settlement
offer.
O
But
I
wanted
to
keep
you
abreast
of
what
the
situation
is
with
the
the
case
I
mean
I
I'm
I'll
answer
any
questions,
but
bear
in
mind
that
I
cannot.
I
do
not
really
want
to
go
into
this
the
details
of
the
settlement
discussions
because
those
are
confidential
pursuant
to
both
the
the
rules
of
evidence
and
the
rules
of
procedure.
So
I
do
not
want
to
go
into
the
details
at
public
hearing,
especially
without
the
presence
of
counsel
for
any
being
three
rivers.
O
O
In
regards
to
our
amended
complaint,
all
they've
done
is
they've.
They
have
filed
a
what's
called
a
57105
motion
for
attorneys
fees.
There.
It's
a
standard,
boilerplate
argument
that
basically
our
argument.
Our
complaint
has
no
basis
and
is
frivolous.
I
vehemently
disagree
with
that,
but
that's
what
we
lawyers
do.
We
can
disagree
about
everything
so
all
right
so.
H
D
O
Right,
yeah,
you
give
me
a
call,
you
know
at
my
office
what
or
drop
by
my
office
is.
I
have
an
open
door
policy
and
I
think
all
the
staff
knows
they
readily
just
walk
right
into
my
office
and
ask-
and
I
I
will
not
turn
anyone
away
unless
my
door
is
closed,
but
that's
the
only
time
I
won't
be
taking
visitors,
but
if
my
door's
open
walk
right
in
sit
down
and
I'll,
I
will
discuss
anything
with
you.
That's
that's
my
policy
20
anytime,
I'm
here
in
the
building.
O
The
second
aspect
of
my
presentation
is-
and
I
didn't
want
to
jump
on
this,
but
this
is
something
this
is
what
came
up
in
in
during
the
public
discussion,
but
we
did
receive
and
and
when
I
was
prepared
for
the
presentation,
I
was
going
to
go
into
that
we
did
receive
receipt
from
the
florida
public
employees,
relations
commission
that
they
received
a
request,
a
petition
for
what's
called
registration
and
certification
of
a
of
a
union
on
behalf
of
the
police
department,
employees.
O
O
So
I
can
keep
abreast
of
it,
but
now
perk
has
issued
that
the
matter
is
now
in
what
is
called
the
registration
and
certification
proceedings
in
which
they
are
seeking
to
be
certified
as
the
bargaining
unit
on
behalf
of
the
police
department
under
florida
statutes,
as
well
as
all
the
case
law.
This
is
the
proceedings
for
the
city
to
have
any
objections.
O
At
such
time
I
will
be.
I
will
be
requesting
a
copy
of
the
petition
from
perk
and
see
if
there
are
any
any
bases
for
objection
on
the
part
of
their
petition
right
now.
I
don't.
I
don't
have
the
petition
it
hasn't.
O
It
hasn't
been
sent
to
us
that
perk
does
require
and
they
submitted
as
part
of
the
notice
that
there
will
be
a
notice
that
has
to
be
posted
at
the
police
department,
we'll
be
preparing
these
and
posting
them
that
this
matters
now
with
the
public
employees,
relations
commission
and
we
can
address
those
matters.
I
don't
have
any
details
as
to
the
basis
of
the
petition
that
I
can
answer
as
soon
as
I
have
I
do.
O
We
can
go
in
now
when
I
received
that
they
received
it.
I
did
speak
with
a
colleague
of
mine
and
on
this
basis
it
was
the
city
attorney
of
the
city
to
land
who's.
Actually,
a
good
friend
of
mine
we've
worked
together
for
years
and
advised
him
as
to
how
the
city
has
approached
whether
they
have
a
unionized
police
force,
which
they
do
and
made
some
recommendations.
I
would
advise
this
council
and
I'd
probably
recommend
that
the
council
look
into
bringing
in
outside
counsel
specialized
in
collective
bargaining
to
assist
the
legal
department.
O
I
was
given
an
approximate
budget
that
we
will
be
looking
at
for
such
an
endeavor
based
on
a
city
of
deland
size,
which
is
slightly
smaller
than
apopka,
but
probably
pretty
comparable
collective
bargaining
negotiations
could
run
between
20
000
dollars
to
slightly
more
if
the
negotiations
become
more
drawn
out.
If
the
sides
are
too
far
apart,
and
then
they
have
a
continuing
retainer
with
an
outside
counsel
to
handle
those
matters
to
deal
with
arbitration
issues
and
all
of
those.
But
that's
going
to
really.
O
O
But
that's
why
I
wanted
to
really
stress
on
limiting
the
the
communications,
because
I
don't
want
any
statements
to
be
brought
up
and
used
against
the
city
and
when
we
were
when
we're
before
perk
and
addressing
whether
or
not
they
have
followed
all
the
statutory
requirements
for
organizing
for
organizing
as
a
bargaining
unit.
On
behalf
of
the
the
employees
of
the
city,
apopka
police
department,
so
again,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
available
to
answer
them
now
or
if
you
want
again
drop
by
my
office,
feel
free.
G
So,
are
we
already
down
that
road
and
no
ability
to
make
a
u-turn
or
no,
where
you
know
there's
46,
apparently
that
signed
on?
What's
the
process
there
do
they
have
to.
O
It
is
now
we
have
the
opportunity
to
review
that
application
and
make
any
objections
if
we
find
there
are
a
legal
basis
to
make
objections,
namely
some
of
the
objections,
but
just
by
example,
is
have
they
named
the
right
number
of
employees.
Have
they
named
employees
who
are
actually
exempt?
Employees
who
aren't
entitled
to
be
employees
such
as
certain
confidential
employees
or
managerial
positions
that
are
would
not
be
eligible
to
be
to
be
a
part
of
a
bargaining
unit.
Have
they
followed?
O
So
we
can
challenge
if
there's
a
basis
for
that
challenge,
whether
they've
registered
properly
or
not,
and
then
perk
will
make
the
decision
or
not
whether
no
they
have
met
the
rules
for
organization
and
then
perk
will
govern
their
elections
to
elect
with
who
their
officers
are
and
whether
they're
properly
organized,
and
at
that
point
then
we
could
be
in
in
the
in
the
posture
of
collectively
bargaining.
O
I
think,
based
on
the
timelines-
and
maybe
I
mean
I
I
could
be
wrong,
but
based
on
the
timelines
that
we
now
have
for
filing
for
objection
for
any
objections
and
how
long
perc
usually
takes
any
potential
collective
bargaining
with
the
employees
units
probably
going
to
affect
the
fiscal
year
2122
budget.
I
don't
think
there's
going
to
be
enough
time
for
them
to
be
able
to
negotiate
for
fiscal
year.
2021.
G
O
So
that's
that's
just
I.
I
want
to
take
a
conservative
approach
on
that.
That
answer
could
change.
If,
if
I
am
speaking
with
with
council
specialized
council,
I
was
recommended
a
law
firm
out
of
orlando
that
there's
actually
a
local
firm.
They
handle
the
city
of
deland
and
actually,
I
think
they
handle
other
other
local
governments
in
central
florida.
O
They
came
very
highly
recommended,
so
I
may
be
reaching
out
to
them
and
then
and
requesting
council
for
for
authorization
to
engage
outside
council
to
assist
and
basically
be
acting
assistant
city
attorneys
for
the
purposes
of
collective
bargaining.
D
Yeah
commissioner
banks
and
touched
on
it
so
to
use
the
terminology
like
when
we
get
bids
and
right
that
cone
of
silence
kind
of
stuff-
it's
you
know,
obviously
I'm
respectful
of
our
charter.
I
don't
mean
to
instruct
any
employees
how
to
do
anything,
but
obviously
you've
seen
here,
employees
feel
empowered
to
voice
their
opinions
as
a
as
a
resident
of
apopka.
D
What
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
I
don't
want
to
misstep.
You
know
similar
to
like
sunshine
laws
between
us
and
be
respectful
for
that.
Since
we
are
in
this
process
now,
right
and
people
can
people
feel
compelled
to
continue
to
voice
concerns
or
thoughts
or
how
to
make
things
better.
Is
it
best
just
to
kind
of
take
a
step
back
or.
O
I
think
so,
especially
I
just
I
wouldn't
advise
you
not
to
listen
to
employees,
but
I
think
it's
it's
important
not
to
take
a
position
of
trying
to
get
into
a
position
of
kind
of
offer
negotiation,
because
one
I
mean
with
all
due
respect
to
the
the
officer
who
did
come
and
speak
here
earlier.
O
I
don't
know
if
he's
been
author-
I
I
I
don't
know
and
if
he
is
one
of
the
names
listed,
neither
does
his
counsel
know
if
he's
an
authorized
person
to
speak
on
behalf
of
a
group
of
employees
who
are
attempting
to
to
organize.
So
I
don't
want
to
have
any
statements
misconstrued
as
certain
negotiation,
whereas
we're
not
necessarily
negotiating
with
someone
who
has
authority
to
enter
into
such
negotiations.
So
it's
always
better
to
just
kind
of
leave
things
so
that
you
know
it's.
O
A
A
All
right
all
right!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
michael
appreciate
that,
okay,
last
up
here,
I
got
the
numbers
for
covid
trending
down
in
the
right
direction.
So
so
take
a
look
at
those.
I
got
a
pretty
interesting
article.
You
know
talking
about
strap
states
and
peril
recovery
and
it
was
from
the
wall
street
journal
just
interesting
about.
A
As
of
2019,
the
median
state
had
7.8
percent
of
its
general
funds
set
aside
as
reserves
7.8,
so
you
know
we're
way
above
that
you
know.
We've
we've
really
worked
hard
to
get
to
where
we
are,
and
so
I
just
want
to
just
thought
that
was
an
interesting
article.
So
take
a
take
a
gander
at
it.
You
get
a
chance.
Second
thing
up
the
just
tonight
from
let's
see
what
was
it
one
o'clock?
A
Let
me
get
the
right
times
from
1am
tonight
until
thursday
morning,
sometime
they're,
going
to
be
working
at
piedmont,
wicava
and
436
are
doing
some
improvements
for
pedestrians,
so
one
of
the
lanes
will
be
closed.
So
single
lane
closures
on
the
outside
right
lanes
on
eastbound
and
westbound
state
road
436
at
the
piedmont,
ocala
road.
So,
just
if
you're
out
at
1am
until
they
get
it
fixed,
be
careful
next
thing
is:
we've
had
four
people
already
pick
up
packets
for
to
run
for
the
the
seat?
A
Two
michael
griffin,
jesse
baron
who's
here
tonight,
diane
velasquez
and
gene
knight
all
have
picked
up
packets
as
of
as
as
of
tonight.
The
last
thing,
I
think,
is
kind
of
a
neat.
I
always
try
to
end
with
a
with
a
positive
note,
jill
cemento
from
parks
and
rec,
and
had
asked
the
if
we
could
do
a
launch
ad.
You
know
launch
ed,
for
it
was.
It
was
mandatory
for
all
high
school
elementary
middle
school
students.
A
They
had
to
do
launch
ed
until
starting
friday,
so
which
means
I
had
to
go,
be
able
to
get
online
and
if
so,
for
the
families
that
didn't
have
internet
or
wi-fi
and
yeah.
I
know
they
were
giving
out
hot
spots
and
and
whatnot,
but
we
thought
jill
came
to
us
said:
hey,
let's,
why
don't
we?
Why
don't
we
offer
up
the
billy
dean
building
at
lonzo
williams
park
and
said
absolutely
so
we
had
15
kids
sign
up.
I
think
10
ended
up
showing
up.
A
We
had
a
couple
of
kids
at
frank
carlton
to
help
them
with
launch
ed
and
here's
the
cool
thing.
So
she
says
in
the
email.
One
little
thing
that
might
be
a
nice
touch
is
to
mention
that
one
of
the
kids
who
signed
up
his
mother
lost
her
job
due
to
coven
and
they
are
now
living
out
of
her
car.
Because
of
this
program
and
us
being
able
to
watch
her
son,
she
was
able
to
job
hunt
and
now
has
secured
a
job,
just
thought.
That
was
a
heartwarming
story.
So.