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From YouTube: Apopka City Council Meeting December 1, 2021
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Apopka City Council Meeting at City Hall on December 1, 2021 at 1:30 PM.
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A
C
B
Washington
dc
workers
placed
a
nine-inch
aluminum
pyramid,
atop,
a
tower
of
the
white
marble,
completing
its
construction
of
an
impressive
monument
to
the
city's
namesake
and
the
nation's.
First
president,
george
washington
made
of
some
36
000
blocks
of
marble
and
grain
stacked
555
feet
in
the
air.
The
monument
was
the
tallest
structure
in
the
world
at
the
time
of
its
completion
in
december
of
1884,
more
than
800
000
people
visit
among
them
each
year,
a
city.
E
F
D
J
A
Okay,
okay,
so
anybody
that
just
a
public
normal
I
mean
something:
that's
not
on
the
agenda.
Anybody
need
to
speak
their
piece.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
all
right.
We
have
five
consent
agenda
items.
Anybody
need
to
pull
any
of
those
items
off.
If
not.
Look
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
five
items
on
consent,
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
J
J
J
K
You
recall
the
ridge
plant
development
is
comprised
of
eight
parcels
to
be
developed
for
industrial,
commercial
and
residential
uses
in
light
of
the
establishment
of
the
rich
community
development
district,
owning
all
of
the
master
common
elements.
The
developers
seeking
to
amend
the
development
agreement,
specifically
section
3
of
the
original
recorded
agreement
to
remove
the
requirement
for
an
association
and
utilize
a
covenant
restriction.
K
L
A
D
M
N
N
You
good
afternoon
bobby
howe
planning
manager.
The
applicant
is
requesting
approval
of
a
major
development
plan
and
a
development
agreement
for
four
warehouse
buildings.
Totaling
1
million
two
hundred
forty
one
thousand
seven
hundred
ninety
square
feet,
an
area
that
will
be
developed
in
two
phases
within
the
apopka
429
subdivision
properties,
located
west
of
u.s,
441
and
southwest
of
wesley
road
and
is
approximately
90.93
acres
in
size.
The
site
will
be
accessed
by
a
newly
constructed
road
leading
into
the
site
from
441..
N
The
applicant
has
provided
a
development
agreement
which
addresses
convenience
and
maintenance
of
the
stormwater
ponds,
prohibited,
uses
special
exceptions,
consistent
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
interior
lot
line
changes.
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval,
planning,
commission
unanimously,
recommend
approval,
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
approve
the
orlando
commerce
center
major
development
plan
and
development
agreement.
Staff
in
the
applicant
are
available
with
questions.
A
Any
questions
for
bobby
anybody
from
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter,
not
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
orlando
apopka
commerce
center
major
development
plan
and
development
agreement.
So
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
becker,
all
those
in
favor.
B
D
J
P
This
has
to
do
with
the
harmon
road
extension
and
the
property
swap
that
we
discussed
it's
probably
been
a
year
ago
when
the
when
some
title
work
was
done.
It
was
discovered
that
there
was
a
special
kind
of
restriction
placed
on
property
that
the
city
received
from
cfx,
and
so
we
had
to
get
that
released.
We
took
that
to
their
right-of-way
committee
and
everything
seemed
to
be
going
fine
and
then
a
couple
days
later,
they
called
me
and
said
well
we're
gonna
have
to
go
back
to
right
away
committee.
P
They
had
a
couple
things
to
add
to
the
agreement.
They
have
a
new
policy
at
expressway
that
for
their
remnant,
parcels
and
other
properties
that
they
own,
that
aren't
being
used.
They've
decided
that
they're
going
to
market
those
for
cell
towers
and
billboards,
and
since
they
had
heard
that
we
potentially
were
going
to
put
a
cell
tower
on
the
property
behind
the
location
of
the
fire
station,
they
felt
that
they
needed
to
put
this
restriction
on.
P
So
I
I'm
it's
not
really
an
issue
now,
because
I'm
pretty
sure
the
consensus
is
we're
not
putting
a
cell
tower
on
that
property,
but
in
order
to
go
forward,
we
need
the
property.
We
need.
This
all
cleared
up,
we're
very
close
to
advertising
the
construction
of
the
road
and
we
need
to
have
all
this
resolved.
So
this
is
just
a.
P
P
P
P
P
Says
that
if
we
ever
decide
to
build
I'm
sorry,
I
laugh
because
it
is
a
little
humorous
if
we
ever
decide
to
put
a
cell
tower
on
this
property
or
on
this
property
which
came
from
the
hospital
in
the
hospital
swap,
and
we
make
revenue
off
of
that
cell
tower.
We
will
share
it,
50
50
with
the
expressway.
They
feel
that,
because,
if,
if
not
for
them,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
build
our
road
and
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
put
a
cell
tower.
There.
J
P
K
J
D
P
P
They
can't
just
give
property
away
that
they
used
certain
kinds
of
monies
for
to
to
buy
so
when,
whenever
they
they're
not
selling
any
property
right
now,
because
they
have
a
moratorium
on
it.
So
whenever
they
give
property
to
us
which
we
needed
for
the
road
and
and
they're
not
in
the
business
of
really
keeping
property,
they
always
put
a
restriction
on
it
with
a
reverter
clause.
The
restriction
says
that
it
can
only
be
used
for
things
related
to
roadways.
P
Like
roadways,
ponds,
right
away
needs,
you
couldn't
put
a
commercial
use
on
there,
where
you
could
make
any
profit.
If
that
becomes
the
case,
that
that's
what
you
want
to
use
it
for
that's
when
the
reverter
clause
kicks
in,
they
take
the
property
back,
and
then
they
tell
you
if
you
want
to
use
it
for
that
you're
going
to
pay
fair
market
value.
A
P
D
P
P
L
B
P
And
and
that
that
is
exactly
the
problem
here,
we've
been
doing
this
with
them
for
eight
months
and
they
keep
delaying
and
delaying,
and
I'm
at
the
point
right
now,
where
we're
about
ready
to
advertise
the
project
and
without
having
this
cleared
up,
we
can't
advertise
the
project
and
get
harman
road
constructed,
and
since
we
I,
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
risk
to
the
city
to
sign
this.
Do
you.
A
L
P
This
is
the
way
that
they
do
it
they
and
we
went
through
this
process
with
them
at
the
connector
road
parcel
they
make
us
use
their
appraisers.
We
have
to
pay
for
two
appraisers
and
then
we
can
do
our
own
independent
if
we
want,
and
they
determine
what
fair
market
value
is
based
on
the
use
of
the
property,
even
though
we're
restricted
to
roadway
uses.
If,
let's
say
if
the
property
could
be
zoned
commercial
they're
going
to
look
it
at
us,
a
commercial
property,
that's
why
we
so
whatever
the
commercial
value?
A
With
the
expression,
we've
got
some
pretty
exciting
things
that
they're
going
to
be
spending
millions
on
that.
This
is
not
worth
the
fight
at
this
time
I
mean
we
can
fight
if
we
want
to
fight,
but
I'm
just
telling
you
if
we
get
an
interchange
within
probably
a
mile
of
this
location,
it's
probably
a
10
to
15
million
dollar.
L
L
D
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
for
pam.
Okay,
anybody
from
the
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter,
not
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
partial
release
and
re-establishment
of
restrictions
and
of
the
partial
release
of
the
easement
and
maintenance
agreement
with
central
florida
expressway.
So.
B
J
A
P
Miss
pam,
I
am
another
interesting
project.
We
have
entered
into
an
agreement
with
the
st
johns
river
water
management
district.
It's
also
been
about
a
year
ago,
and
our
agreement
was,
they
would
locate
on
property
owned
by
the
city
and
we
would
build
their
turn
lanes
and
driveways,
and
at
that
time
the
agreed
upon
price
was
447
000
and
some
change
due
to
circumstances.
P
That
cost
has
gone
up,
and
my
request
today
is
to
ask
that
we
share
the
cost
with
the
the
contractor.
I
don't
feel
like.
We
should
bear
the
full
amount,
but
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
unfair
to
ask
them
to
bear
the
full
amount.
Costs
have
significantly
gone
up.
Construction
costs
in
particular
orange
county
made
up
orange
county,
issued
a
permit
for
this
project.
Then
they
retracted
it
and
they
asked
the
contractor
to
design
the
the
turn
lanes
a
little
different
it.
It
cost
more
money.
P
J
A
P
L
D
L
P
P
P
Asphalt
and
so
forth,
and
that's
where
that
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
coming
from,
they
also
did
an
unrestricted.
They
did
a
restricted
turn
lane,
meaning
there's
a
confined
amount
of
space.
They
could
fit
the
turtling
and
when
indeed,
in
fact,
there's
not
a
restriction
there,
so
orange
county
wanted
it
to
be
longer
and
they
wouldn't
make
any
concessions
to
allow
us
to
make
the
turn
lanes
a
little
bit
shorter.
P
L
E
E
That's
what
spawned
all
of
these
revisions
that
are
now
part
of
this.
As
far
as
the
the
splitting
cost
is
actually
a
little
bit
more
than
than
what
pam
had
alluded
to
we've
not
marked
up
this
change.
Our
designers
have
not
charged
for
the
revised
design
and
we've.
In
addition
to
not
marking
it
up,
we've
offered
the
50,
000,
plus
or
minus
that
damn
mentioned,
and
I'm
prepared
to
answer
any
questions.
You
have.
A
P
P
P
Speed
limit
that
is
not
correct,
and
that
is
what
is
causing
this
now.
They
corrected
the
plans
at
no
cost
and,
if
you
think
of
it
in
the
context
of
had
they
thought
about
it.
This
way
our
original
447
would
have
been
closer
to
600
000..
We
just
started
at
447
and
it's
it's
it's
gone
up.
If,
if,
if
it
had
been
thought
about
in
with
the
correct
posted
speed
limit,
we
wouldn't
have
negotiated
447,
it
would
have
been,
they
would
have
come
to
us
with
a
higher
number
at
the
beginning.
J
P
Okay,
so
now
what
they
designed
for
35
miles
an
hour
they
should
have
designed
for
55.
We
had
the
speed
limit
lowered
to
45.
So
now
the
design
is
for
a
posted
speed
of
45,
which
is
still
greater
than
35.
Okay.
With
regard
to
the
length
of
the
turn
lanes,
the
pavement
widths
and
and
some
other
things,
and
that's
where
that
extra
cost
is
okay,
they
didn't
allow
us
to
lower
it
to
35..
P
L
Cost
shouldn't
be
an
issue
here:
okay,
it
boils
down
to
who's
at
fault
like
who
cares
about
hurting
feelings,
let's
find
out
who's
at
fault
here.
Is
it
the
city?
That's
at
fault.
Is
it
the
counties
at
fault?
Because
if
it's
not
the
city,
that's
at
fault.
I
have
a
hard
time
thinking
that
it's
our
responsibility
to
fix
the
oops.
A
P
That
that
well,
the
original
agreement
with
st
john's
and
and
this
all
played
out
in
this
chambers
was
we
were
just.
They
were
supposed
to
tell
us
how
much
we
were
going
to
write
them
a
check
and
then
they
changed
their
mind
and
they
asked
us
to
contract
directly
with
collage
to
kind
of
take
them
out
of
the
loop
in
hindsight
yeah.
P
Q
P
J
J
J
T
J
B
B
L
U
A
L
M
M
M
D
V
Mindy
mccormick
43-48
at
donald
glay
road,
I'm
right
down
the
street
from
where
this
monstrosity
wants
to
be.
They
want
to
make
an
exit
just
on
wilkins
road.
It's
a
few
hundred
yards
long,
not
even
really
a
two-lane
road.
It's
our
only
way
in
and
out.
We
certainly
don't
need
98
more
cars
a
day
coming
out
a
little
tiny
road.
There
is
another
subdivision,
unfortunately,
going
beside
it
and
they
have
an
entrance
coming
in
that
could
be
connected
to
the
entrance
for
this
place.
V
My
other
issue
is
that
the
ones
of
us
that
are
out
there
we
have
there's
not
but
eight
or
nine
houses
without
where
we
are.
We
all
moved
out
there
to
get
away
from
people
now
they're
bringing
the
people
to
us,
and
I
wouldn't
mind
if
it
was
a
business
that
was
going
to
be
open
daily
and
then
closed
on
sundays,
or
something
that
wouldn't
bother
me
as
much
but
to
have
rental
apartments
that
close
to
our
homes.
Is
it's
not
good
people
that
rent
don't
really
care
about
taking
care
of
anything?
V
I
I
do
some
delivering
around
here.
I
see
the
apartment
buildings
they
go
down
in
about
two
years
I
delivered
to
one
monday.
I
had
to
kick
bottles
out
of
the
way
to
get
up
the
stairs,
the
one
behind
pet
boys
up
there
off
monica
rose
people
just
don't
care
if
they
rent,
they
don't
take
care.
So
my
point
was
to
require
it
to
be
town,
homes
or
condos
that
had
to
be
sold
with
exception,
that
the
owner
cannot
sublet
lease
or
rent.
If
they
want
to
get
rid
of
it,
they
have
to
sell
it.
V
V
V
J
V
Here
is
wilkins
it's
only
this
long.
This
is
all
chandler
estate
used
to
be
a
beautiful
cow
pasture
and
then
we're
right
here.
So
mcdonald
glade
dead
ends
here
and
then
you've
got
wilkins.
So
this
is
our
only
way
in
and
out
and
if
you
add
they're
wanting
to
put
in
98
parking
spaces
now
you
want
to
put
that
many
more
cars
coming
out
of
almost
not
two-lane
road
every
day,
you're
talking
about
a
total
nightmare
for
us
and
for
them.
V
I
mean
it's
a
very
small,
little
area
where
we're
the
only
area-
that's
still
unincorporated
orange
county,
we're
still
zoned
agriculture,
but
this
this
little
tiny
road
is
not
going
to
support.
But
and
of
course
we
don't
want
to
see
it
widened
or
anything
either
we
kind
of
like
what
little
bit
of
country
we
got
left.
Q
V
You
know
the
people
across
the
street
have
got
chickens
and
potbelly
pigs,
and
you
know
it's
just
it's
kind
of
like
a
just
kind
of
your
own
little
niche,
you'd
kind
of
like
to
keep
and
rental
apartments.
I
don't
care
how
high-end
they
are
because
I've
been
to
some
good
high-end
ones
around
here,
they're
trashed
within
two
years
and.
V
V
D
J
V
V
V
V
They
had
all
they,
they
started
a
few
weeks
ago.
They're
still
tearing
up
the
woods.
Okay,
they
have
just
started
going
in
and
starting
clearing.
Okay,
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
be
the
actual,
but
there's
no
reason
that
they
can't
come
in.
They
can't
do
it
over
to
that
to
that
area
too,
and.
D
V
R
D
A
S
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
dave
croson,
I'm
one
of
the
property
owners
and
pilots
and
aircraft
owners
out
at
the
apopka
airport,
which
is
just
across
the
street
from
this
particular
project
and
I'm
here
because
of
the
implied
residential
usage
on
this
one.
Even
though
it's
it's
a
rezoning
for
mult
mixed
use,
the
obvious
intention
and
the
stated
intention
is
for
45
multi-family
units
on
this
property,
which
is
in
conflict
with
the
preservation
of
the
airport
area.
S
If
you
talk
to
most
people
out
on
the
street,
they
probably
also
think
yeah
the
airport's
a
good
thing
we
like
to
have
it,
but
they
don't
realize
the
the
active
efforts
that
are
needed
in
order
to
preserve
the
airport
over
perpetuity,
because
it
doesn't
take
very
many
projects
like
this
over
a
decade
or
two
before
the
airport,
you
know,
runs
into
runs
into
issues
a
couple
of
items
of
interest
about
the
airport
other
than
the
obvious
benefit
to
the
city.
Of
course,
they're
not
building
more
of
more
airports.
S
Very
often,
most
cities
do
not
have
airports,
so
apopka
is
unique
in
that
regard.
Having
such
a
such
an
asset,
the
apopka
is
not
big
enough
for
big
commercial
jets.
You
don't
see
southwest
going
in
there,
but
you
do
see
some
corporate
turbo
crop
and
jets
there,
which
are
quite
noisy,
as
you
might
expect,
with
the
large
industrial
development
going
on
to
the
west
they've
got
that
mostly
cleared
out.
I
expect
to
be
even
more
corporate
activity
at
the
airport,
but
the
airport's
only
60
percent
built
out
so
over
time.
S
My
goal
is
to
promote
that
long-term
preservation
of
the
airport
and
the
asset
that
we
have
the
pattern's
been
repeated
many
times
around
the
country
where
city
grows
slowly
over
time,
there's
houses
all
the
way
around
the
airport
and
more
residents
translate
into
more
noise
complaints
and
before
you
know
it,
the
airport
is
the
one
that's
suffering
and
it
faces
the
death
of
a
thousand
cuts.
You
know.
S
S
The
florida
statutes
also
have
the
same
thing.
All
of
them
have
this
requirement
that
if
you
don't
have
a
noise
study
which
there
isn't
one
you
have
to
stay
beyond
half
the
distance
of
half
the
length
of
the
runway
away.
With
these
kind
of
projects,
half
the
distance
translates
into
about
1900
feet.
This
is
clearly
within
within
that
area.
Noise
study
is
covered
by
federal
code
c
14
cfr
150,
it's
very
specialized
kind
of
study.
S
It's
complicated,
expensive
takes
a
while
you
can't
just
do
it
out
of
you,
know
off
of
ebay
or
something
it's
it's
quite
complex.
As
I
mentioned
well,
the
noise
study
requires
a
you
know.
I
just
got
another
comment
or
two:
I
can
see
I'm
running
out
of
time.
Yeah.
The
noise
study
has
a
65
decibel
limit.
That's
the
the
requirement
once
you
do
get
a
noise
study.
It
also
requires
that
you
look
five
years
into
the
future.
As
I
mentioned,
airports
only
thank.
A
D
H
Wanted
to
say
we
wanted
to
thank
staff,
we
agree
with
staff,
we
do
have
future
land
use
in
place
for
this
property,
so
it's
just
the
zoning
that
is
transitional,
so
we're
just
trying
to
get
the
zoning
to
match
the
future
land
use.
We
are
in
the
gateway
corridor,
which
I
realized
in
the
one
resident
isn't
happy
about,
but
it
does
allow
multi-family.
H
We
did
speak
with
the
city
and
I'm
not
going
to
say
I
know
anything
about
the
project
that's
going
to
the
south,
but
I
don't
know
that
I
can
really
just
encumber
a
property,
that's
already
under
construction
to
say,
hey
change,
all
of
your
plans,
you're
in
the
middle
of
construction
and
allow
and
access
to
us
our
access
would
be
from
wilkins
and
we
will
be
required.
The
city
will
require
us
to
improve
wilkins
up
to
the
frontage
of
our
property.
H
I
realize
residents
unfortunately,
may
not
may
not
like
the
reality
of
that,
but
it
is
already
in
place
so
we're
just
trying
to
get
the
zoning
from
transitional
to
match
the
future
land
use,
which
is
the
mixed
use
and
the
owner
is
going
to
speak.
I
know
he's
actually
done
a
noise
study
and
knows
way
more
about
airport
noise
than
I
ever
will.
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
F
F
F
S
F
F
As
far
as
we
can
tell,
there
is
no
long-term
commitment
to
the
city
of
apopka
to
maintain
this
as
an
airport
or
as
a
public
use
airport.
The.
What
that
means
is
that
you
know,
as
sellers
of
condominiums
do
they're
going
to
want
to
market
their
property
and
they're
going
to
want
to
market
those
hangars,
nothing
prevents
them
once
they
sell
out
that
condominium.
R
F
Of
theirs
to
convert
this
to
private
use,
in
fact,
it
kind
of
makes
sense
that
they
might
because
right
now,
they're
using
this
to
sell
hangers,
allowing
third
parties
to
come
in
and
use
their
runway
and
affect
the
maintenance
and
use
of
that
runway.
So
that's
that's
one
aspect
to
bear
in
mind
in
in
this
law
that
we
have
under
the
city
of
apopka
has
on
the
books
was
was
mandated
by
the
state
of
florida.
F
The
state
of
florida's
law
doesn't
track
exactly
this
because
it
didn't
protect
this
kind
of
airport.
It
protected
private
public
use,
airports
that
were
operated
by
an
airport
authority
or
a
governmental
body,
not
a
private
condominium
association
who
were
looking
to
essentially
usurp
the
property
rights
of
folks
around
them
without
committing
anything
long
term
to
the
to
the
city.
It's
to
my
knowledge
again
and
mr
crossing
probably
answer
this.
There
is
no
covenants
running
with
the
land.
F
As
for
the
noise
study,
we've
completed
one
again,
the
city
code
requires
this
to
be
in
compliance
with
150
cfr,
but
150
cr
doesn't
recognize
them
as
an
airport.
They
don't
rise
to
that
level
because
they
don't
have
scheduled
passenger
service,
nor
do
they
have
enough
traffic
there.
I
guess
to
to
rise
to
the
level
of
being
of
being
concerned
about
noise.
F
F
The
basis
of
this
study
is
that
the
basic
result
of
this
study
is
that
the
noise
level
here
is
greater
from
441
than
from
the
airport
traffic,
which
is
again
single
engine
aircraft
that
are
just
give
you
an
idea.
If
you
don't
know
this,
the
typical
single-engine
aircraft-
that's
that
flies
in
and
out
of
this
general
aviation
airport,
weighs
about
the
same
as
a
honda.
Civic,
we're
not
talking
about
a
you
know
a
737
or
something
like
that.
F
L
M
L
Get
it,
and
so,
from
a
zoning
perspective
you
have
the
land
use
mixed
use.
Zoning
would
fall
in
line
because
we
can't
compel
you
to
change
or
apply
to
change
to
a
different
land
use.
I
get
that
the
example
that
you
use,
though
yeah
those
people
argued
their
point
about
the
property
west
of
the
airport,
and
they
made
a
pretty
compelling
argument
because,
as
you
can
see,
all
that
proposed
residential
is
now
still
industrial.
L
So
the
residents
made
a
very
compelling
argument
and
this
council
agreed
with
them
and
when
I
look
at
the
zoning
classification
of
the
land
use
classification
for
for
mixed
use
on
those
properties
on
the
prior
map,
none
of
them,
with
the
exception,
the
very
tippy
top
of
what
you
can
see
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen,
which
is
the
I
think,
the
campground
area
that
has
mobile
homes
on
it.
None
of
those
have
a
residential
component
on
that
mixed-use
classification,
the
property
directly
to
your
south.
L
All
that
mixed
use
classification
is
going
to
be
eventually
commercial.
That's
not
going
to
have
any
residential
component
on
it.
So
I
would
assume
that
you
know
I'm
not
here
to
argue
against
the
zoning
classification,
because
I
think
that's
just
that
it's
a
zoning
classification
but
the
use
and
the
concept
of
what
you're
trying
to
use
on
that
piece
of
property.
I
think,
is
going
to
be
highly
debated
as
you
get
further
down
in
the
process
as
you
as
you
see
here.
F
A
Q
Are
several
twin
engines
that
are
based
there
and
turbo
props
and
some
jets?
So
I've
been
there
and
you
know
there
there
definitely
is
a
difference
between
the
small
ones
you
know,
and
but
there
are
several
other
ones
that
are
there
and
that
that
are
used
quite
frequently.
So
but
again,
that's
a
different
argument.
Yeah.
A
L
A
Y'all
understand
what
we're
that
it's
it's
already
gotten.
The
future
land
use
is
where
it
is,
and
so
they're
just
moving
that
forward.
They've
go.
They
still
have
to
come
back
to
us
again
with
a
plan.
It
could
be
commercial,
it
could
be
residential,
it
could
be
single
family,
it
could
be
town
homes.
It
could
be
anything
so
at
this
point,
we're
not
we're
not
giving
them
the
authority
to
build
apartments.
So
is
that
I
want
you
to
feel
you
know
comfortable
that
what
we're
doing
today
is
just
to
get
them
to
to
that.
D
A
Is
is
proper,
so,
yes
ma'am,
we
got
at
least
one
more
hearing,
probably
two,
but
yes,
yeah
and
you'll
be
have
you'll
be
notified.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
gives
you
some
direction.
I
I'm
you
know
moving
forward,
but
so
there's
any
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
or
anybody,
and
if
not,
we
can
close
the
public
hearing
and
look
for
a
motion.
U
Ordinance
number
2887,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
changing
the
zoning
from
pd
plan
development
and
rsf-1a
residential
single-family
estate
district
to
rsf-1b
residential
single-family
large
lot
for
certain
real
property
located
on
the
east
side
of
tigris
drive
and
west
of
jason
dwelling
parkway,
comprising
38.62
acres,
more
or
less
and
owned
by
ever
meadow
llc
and
the
village
of
fame
llc
providing
for
directions.
The
community
development
director,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
N
Mommy,
thank
you
bobby
howell
planning
manager
for
the
record
subject.
Properties
are
located
on
the
east
side
of
tigris
drive
and
west
of
jason
dwelling
parkway
and
approximately
38.62
acres
in
size.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
rezoning
of
the
properties
from
pd
and
rsf-1a
to
rsf-1b
to
allow
for
the
development
of
a
single-family
subdivision
at
a
maximum
density
of
two
dwelling
units
per
acre
future
land
use.
N
N
Orange
county
public
schools
has
provided
a
report
that
indicates
capacity
for
the
post.
Development
is
available
at
all
school
levels.
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval
and
the
planning
commission
unanimously
recommended
approval,
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
approve
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
staff
in
the
applicant
are
available
for
questions.
D
L
N
D
B
W
A
L
A
D
U
Ordinance
number
2888,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida,
changing
the
zoning
from
t
transitional
district
and
rsf-1a
residential
single-family
estate
district
to
pd
plan
development
for
certain
real
property,
located
east
of
south
binyan,
road
and
south
of
willett
avenue,
comprising
95.09
acres,
more
or
less
and
owned
by
marion
wade.
Hopper
life
estate,
cat
mary
kathleen
hopper
life
estate,
harold
wayne,
thomas
melody,
lynn,
thomas
mary,
kathleen,
hopper,
douglas
matthews,
trust,
anita,
matthews
trust.
N
N
N
The
future
land
use
is
low
density
residential,
which
allows
a
maximum
up
to
five
units.
An
acre,
the
pd
master
plan,
major
or
pd
master
plan,
proposes
a
residential
subdivision
consisting
of
a
maximum
allowable
density
of
3.7
dwelling
units
per
acre,
which
is
1.3
units
less
than
the
maximum
allowable
density
of
5
dwelling
units
per
acre.
The
single-family
lots
range
in
size
from
60
feet
in
width
to
92.5
feet
in
width.
A
lot
areas
range
from
7
500
square
feet
to
11
429
square
feet
in
area.
N
The
minimum
living
area
of
1800
square
feet
is
provided
for
the
single
family
homes
and
1300
square
feet
is
provided
for
the
town
homes,
town
home
units
are
located
on
the
interior
of
the
site
and
they
are
buffered
and
by
a
perimeter
of
the
single
family
home.
So
the
townhomes
are
not
visible
from
the
surrounding
areas.
N
Town
home
units
are
accessed
via
alleyways
and
one
on-street
parking
is
provided
adjacent
to
the
townhome
units.
Access
to
the
site
is
provo
proposed
via
full
access
located
on
binyan
road
right
and
return
lanes
leading
into
the
site
will
be
provided
along.
Bending
road
internal
streets
will
be
dedicated
to
the
public
of
the
95.09
acres.
30.72
are
reserved
for
open
space.
This
includes
a
pool,
cabana
playground,
mixed-use,
active
field
conservation
tracks,
preservation
of
on-site
cars
features
and
storm
water
retention
ponds.
N
N
We
feel
they're
consistent
with
our
code
and
exceed
kind
of
what
our
code
requires
and
the
quality
that
the
city
of
apopka
is
looking
for.
Orange
county
public
schools
provided
a
report
that
indicates
capacity
for
proposed
development
is,
if
not
available
at
the
elementary
school
level
and
is
deficient
by
49.713
seats.
Property
is
owned
for
apopka
elementary.
N
The
development
review
committee
voted
4-2
to
recommend
approval
of
the
magnolia
terrace
planned
development
master
plan
and
rezoning.
Two
members
of
the
drc
cast
is
sending
votes
on
the
basis
that
they
do
not
veer
the
town
homes
as
being
consistent
with
the
surrounding
area,
which
is
primarily
con
developed
with
single-family
detached
units.
Planning.
Commission
unanimously
recommended
approval
on
the
recommended
motion.
Today
is
to
approve
first
reading
of
the
rezoning
from
transitional
and
rsf1a
to
planned
development
and
hold
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
staff
in
the
applicant
are
available
for
questions.
A
N
L
N
N
Q
A
R
X
To
kind
of
go
over
a
couple
of
points
about
how
we
feel
that
it
is
compatible
and
just
some
of
the
issues
with
the
the
property,
because
it
is
somewhat
unique,
and
so
I
wanted
to
point
it
out.
So,
as
you
know,
the
property
is
to
the
east
opinion.
Thank
you
for
pointing
that
out,
commissioner
bankston
property.
As
you
see,
it
is
made
up
of
12
total
parcels,
six
property
owners
with
12
total
parcels.
X
These
parcels
right
here
to
the
west
of
it
in
between
binion
and
the
majority
of
the
site,
are
made
of
about
15
lots
that
are
mostly
anywhere
between
one
acre
and
five
acre
lots,
and
so
we
knew
right
from
the
beginning.
We
wanted
to
try
to
buffer
it.
In
addition,
the
meadows
at
mott
helen,
which
is
the
development
to
the
north,
was
built
under
the
old
code,
the
1993
code
and
what
it's
comprised
of
is
mostly
60
foot,
lots
all
internal
and
then
on
the
edges.
X
X
So
what
we
did
and
the
reason
I
would
call
this
property
of
this
assemblage
of
property
is
unique
in
that
it's
it's
really
isolated
on
multiple
sides,
as
you
can
see,
everything
to
the
east
and
to
the
south
is
not
only
wetland
areas,
but
it's
also
a
floodway.
It
feeds
from
lake
marshall,
upper
lake,
dough,
lower
lake
dough
and
complete
whipperwood.
I
think
as
well
and
completely
goes
underneath
binion
and
over
to
lake
apopka,
and
so
this
is
something
that
will
never
be
developed.
The
ridge
is
the
development
right
here
to
the
south.
X
We
actually
touch
our
property
corners,
actually
cater
corner
and
I'll
show
that
on
the
subsequent
side,
but
as
you
can
see
from
the
east
and
to
the
south,
there's
really
limited
development
because
of
the
floodway
to
the
north,
the
meadows
of
mont
helen,
under
your
old
code,
it's
not
allowed
now,
but
under
the
old
code,
instead
of
buffering
from
the
agricultural
development
that
was
their
agricultural
sites
that
were
there
before
they
did
a
six
foot
block
wall.
So
starting
here
here
in
this
whole
northern
boundary
is
actually
a
six
foot
block
wall.
X
There's
no
buffering
from
there.
They
did
larger
lots
again.
They
did
75
and
90
foot
lots.
But
then
these
are
all
60
foot
internal.
So
what
we
try
to
do
is
even
though
there's
a
block
wall
there
on
our
site
plan,
we
did
the
75-foot
lots
along
the
entire
north,
so
we're
still
matching
compatible
large
lots
along
our
northern
boundary,
but
then
the
rest
of
it.
We
put
60
foot
on
all
external
external
portions
of
the
property.
X
In
addition,
in
our
community
community
meeting,
there
were
some
residents
that
brought
up
some
concerns
as
far
as
compatibility.
So
what
we
said
was
we
would
do
larger
lots
of
deeper
lots
here,
as
well
as
provide
a
50-foot
buffer,
so
we're
providing
a
50-foot
open
space
buffer
along
that
western
side
in
this
portion
in
this
portion,
there's
a
depression
area,
it's
about
a
30-foot
depression
that
we've
come
and
done,
research
on
determined
it's
a
car
feature
and
so
per
your
code.
They
determine
whether
or
not
there's
connected
direct
connectivity
to
the
florida
aquifer.
X
There
isn't
and
therefore
a
hundred
foot
buffer
is
required,
but
if
it
was
had
direct
connection,
it'd
be
a
200
foot
buffer,
and
so
what
we
did
is
we
actually
provided
a
250
foot
setback
to
the
pads,
the
allowable
pads,
so
we're
more
than
exceeding
the
buff
there.
So
what
we
have
is
on
the
west
side,
we
have
a
50
foot
buffer
here
from
the
larger
five
and
one
acre
lots,
and
then
this
car's
feature
provides
the
rest
of
the
buffer
from
some
of
these
lots.
X
In
addition,
as
bobby
indicated,
we're
doing
a
the
we're
building
that
ten
we're
dedicating
right
away
for
the
den
10
foot
trail
along
binion,
which
is
part
of
the
city's
trail
network
that
they're
trying
to
put
together
so
we're
doing
our
part
for
that,
and
we're
also
trying
to
take
advantage
of
this
wetland
view.
It's
kind
of
a
vista
view.
X
It
drops
about
35
feet
from
the
majority
of
our
site
to
this,
the
elevation
of
the
floodplain
and
so
we're
building
a
trail
system
that
wraps
around
this
whole
site,
as
well
as
the
internal
sidewalk.
So
you
can
have
roughly
a
half
mile
track
around
the
trail,
so
it'll
be
a
nice
little
trail
that
you
can.
You
know,
residents
can
take
their
dogs
on
and
just
walk
around,
one
of
the
the
benefits
with
doing
the
higher
density
and
that's
probably
indicated
we're
right
at
3.1
dwellings
per
acre
overall
or
gross
3.7.
X
We
understand
that
mod
helen
was
built
on
the
old
code
and
has
a
60
foot
lots,
but
what
they
don't
have
is
larger
community
areas
and
that's
what
a
lot
of
the
buyers
today
want
is
those
larger
community
areas
or
open
space
areas
and
so
we're
providing
trying
to
provide
a
large
centralized
park
or
community
area,
as
well
as
the
trail
system,
to
to
kind
of
further
point
out
the
proximity.
I
know
you
just
asked.
X
Multiple
people
asked
about
the
proximity
to
the
closest
town
home,
so
this
is
our
site
right
here
to
the
east
of
bending
road.
This
directly
across
from
us
is
the.
I
they
changed
the
name.
It
used
to
be
called
klonte's
farm,
but
now
it's
ivy
hills.
I
believe
you
have
ivy
hills
development,
so
this
right
here
is
ivy.
Hill
development
has
55
and
65
foot
locks.
This
is
avion
point.
They
have
apartments
rear,
loaded,
townhomes
and
50,
or
60
foot
and
75
foot
lots
same
as
us,
except
we
don't
we're
not
proposing
any
apartments.
X
This
right
here
is
the
ridge,
as
you
can
tell,
as
I
indicated
before,
our
property
lines
actually
touch
at
the
corners
you're,
approving
commercial
apartments,
rear-loaded,
townhomes
and
55-foot
lots.
So
we
are
again
doing
75
and
60-foot
lots
right
here
is
hooper
farm.
That's
making
its
way
through.
That
is
apartments
right
off
binyan
just
down
the
street
from
us.
There's
also
apartments
right
here
at
martin.
X
Maybe
on
point,
as
you
know,
it's
getting
close
to
built
out
bridge
is
making
its
way
through.
You
saw
it
earlier
this
commission
here,
you
know
this
agenda.
The
apartments
are
on
phase
two.
These
apartments
already
got
their
entitlements.
I
believe
you
already
approved
the
future
land
use
and
again
these
apartments
is
hooper
farms,
just
the
south
of
us
on
binion.
They
are
got
their
future
laners
and
rezoning
approved
they're
going
through
the
major
development
plan
process
right
now,
so
we
see
it
as
there's
apartments
in
town
all
wrapping
around
us.
X
We
understand
the
compatibility
directly
adjacent
to
meadows
at
maud
helen,
but,
as
I
indicated
we
in
originally
designing
this,
we
try
to
put
the
50-foot
buffer
to
protect
from
the
large
lots.
75-Foot
lots
along
the
whole
northern
boundary,
in
addition
to
they
have
their
existing
six
foot
block
wall,
so
compatibility
to
mod
helen.
X
So
it's
probably
indicated
we
are
providing
that
trail.
We
have
the
trail
system
going
through
all
this
open
space,
and
then
we
have
the
large
park
open
space
in
the
middle,
as
well
as
the
buffering
to
the
west.
So
the
reason
I
call
this
unique
and
that
it
does
stand
alone
in
that
you're.
Looking
to
the
east
and
south,
you
already
have
these
buffers
to
the
north.
You
have
a
six
foot
block
wall
and
to
the
west,
we're
providing
well
a
car
feature
and
then
we're
providing
a
50-foot
buffer.
X
We
want
to
provide
that
third
different
product
type
or
another
option,
reloaded
townhomes
to
really
give
different
buyers
points,
and
then
some
people
want
that
the
rear
loaded
town
homes
and
have
a
lot
more
open
space,
centralized
that
they
get
to
take
advantage
of,
and
that's
just
a
different
product
type
for
a
different
buyer.
And
so
we
want
to
provide
that
option
for
that
buyer.
X
As
bobby
indicated,
we
have
some
of
the
some
of
the
different
options:
the
the
townhomes
without
the
garages
and
all
the
different
types
homes.
I
know
remember
we
met
previously.
You
indicated
you
wanted
1800
square
foot,
so
they
easily
meet
that
multiple
over
3
000
square
feet,
but
1800
is
the
minimum.
I
think
the
smallest
one
is,
the
2100,
I
believe,
is
the
smallest
one
currently
proposed,
but
in
there
we
did
in
the
pd
agreement
list
the
minimum
as
eighteen
hundred
square
feet
per
request.
X
X
L
X
X
Went
back
and
forth
so
initially
when,
when
we
first
looked
at
this
project,
we
always
had
the
connection
to
binion.
That's
that's
always
been.
We
figured
that
out.
This
right
here
is
john's
road.
This
comes
up
where
it
tees
into
beardsley,
which
is
the
only
entrance
and
exit
for
the
meadows
of
mod
helen
there's
no
homes
to
the
west
of
this
intersection.
The
last
home
is
just
there
just
to
the
northeast
of
this
intersection,
there's
no
home.
So
there's
nobody
as
a
connectivity
point,
there's
no
body
that
we're
impacting
we're
just
entering
off
there.
X
They
have
their.
They
have
a.
I
believe
it's
a
little
over
a
half
acre
community
park
right
here
next
to
their
pond.
It
has
a
half
basketball
court
and
a
little
playground.
That's
the
only
thing!
That's
on
this
road,
there's,
no,
no
homes,
fronting
it
or
driveways
off
of
it.
This
was
always
intended
to
be
stubbed
out,
and
so
it
actually
stubs
out
now
it
turns
into
a
dirt
road.
X
This
was
actually
intended,
and
this
is
something
your
staff
is
doing
a
great
job
of
today,
whereas
back
then
when
this
was
built
in
the
80s
and
90s
they
just
they
didn't
kind
of
memorialize
the
the
options
for
interconnectivity,
so
they
intended
they
plotted
this.
This
is
a
cul-de-sac.
They
plotted
the
cul-de-sac
directly
to
the
property
line
and
wrote
on
the
plans
for
future
connectivity
or
interconnectivity.
X
Unfortunately,
they
also
built
a
six-foot
block
wall,
and
so,
as
you
can
imagine,
these
residents
that
bought
here,
I
can
completely
understand
they're
thinking.
Well,
this
is
never
going
to
be
extended.
However,
the
intention
was
to
be
extended.
So
in
our
original
plan
we
actually
had
this
roadway
connecting
through
as
well
as
the
connection
of
john's
and
the
connection
to
binion
after
the
community
meeting.
That
was
one
of
the
requests
they
said.
Hey.
Can
you
please
remove
this?
We
never
thought
this
was
going
to
be
extended
completely
understandable.
X
Considering
there's
a
six
foot
block
wall
there
that
would
most
people
would
say
it
wasn't
intended
to
be
extended,
but
it
was
so
we
removed
that
connection,
but
we
kept
john's
at
during
one
of
the
drcs.
When
we
were
going
through.
There
was
some
concern
about
potentially
making
it
a
emergency
access
gate.
X
X
L
L
Hugging
that
going
to
the
north
from
hospital
all
the
way
up
to
kelly
park.
You
know,
eventually
we
may
not
call
it.
You
know
it's
probably
subjective
for
someone
to
say
it's
compatible
at
this
point,
but
if
we're
looking
at
the
same
map
five
years
from
now,
you're
gonna
lose
some
of
that
argument,
because
you're
gonna
see
most
of
that
development.
Hugging
429
we've
already
seen
it
by
the
hospital
we're
seeing
that
429
with
the
floridian
center
yeah.
L
L
X
I
would
say
the
majority
of
the
meeting
centered
on
eliminating
this.
There
was
some
discussion
back
and
forth
on.
Some
residents
wanted
the
connectivity,
some
didn't
from
an
emergency
perspective
and
from
interconnectivity.
I,
like
the
connection
I
actually
like
this
one
as
well,
but
I
understand
they
didn't
want
it
to
me.
Interconnectivity
is
always
better.
I
like
having
multiple
options.
They
are.
They
are
a
development
that
again
came
in
under
the
old
code.
You
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
do
it
today.
The
the
fire
department,
police
department,
planning
staff
would
all
require
a
minimum.
X
Two
connection
points
for,
for
typically
nfpa,
says
anything
over
50
lots,
they're,
probably
somewhere
around
300
or
400
lots,
and
they
have
one
connection
point,
and
you
saw
something
like
that
play
out
with
the
hurricanes
with
breckenridge
right
down
the
street
breckenridge
had,
which
is
this
one
right
here?
They
have
a
single
access
point,
which
is
when
lakeside
was
done.
There
was
a
emergency
access
connection
because
they
were
all
blocked
in
for
three
days,
because
there
was
a
tree
that
blocked
their
single
entry,
road
and
so
for
three
days.
X
No
one
could
get
in
or
out
which
you
can
imagine
from
emergency
perspective
is
very,
very
bad
thing.
So,
but
as
far
as
the
community
meeting
the
majority
rested
on
removing
this
access
I'd
say
it
was
probably
split,
50
50
on
who
wanted
john's
road
connection.
Who
didn't
we
said
we
had
to
have
at
least
the
second
one.
So
we
didn't
really
get
that
option.
X
You
have
to
have
a
secondary
connection
point.
They
asked
for
a
buffer
here.
Many
of
the
residents
that
are
in
these
the
majority
of
these
are
five
acres.
Some
of
these
are
split
in
one
and
five
acres,
but
some
of
these
are
five
and
ten
acre
lots
and
they
all
wanted
a
buffer.
So
we
originally
were
having
25,
we
bumped
it
up
to
a
50-foot
buffer.
In
addition
to
that,
these
lots
are
actually
deeper,
and
so
your
buildings
can
be
towards
the
front
of
the
home.
So
you
almost
have
100
feet
for
your
building.
X
X
I
believe
that
was
the
majority
of
it
from
a
community
meeting
perspective,
oh
of
course,
townhomes.
They
said
they
didn't
believe
that
they
didn't
want
townhomes.
We
said
we
would
not
put
townhomes
adjacent
to
the
property
line.
We
would
always
wrap
60
foot
and
75
foot
lots
around,
and
that
was
the
majority
of
what
was
discussed,
but.
A
Y
A
Y
A
A
Y
X
Just
to
address
a
couple
of
concerns,
so
I,
like
the
term
appropriating
stuff.
I
would
consider
that
theft
if
someone
comes
on
the
job
site
and
steals
it
at
night,
but
that's
a
good
way
of
putting
it
so
we'll
make
sure
to
tell
the
contractor
if
this
proceeds
forward,
that
they
shouldn't
do
that.
But
from
a
construction
time
standpoint
they
cannot
do
construction
and
four.
D
X
X
Y
X
Y
X
O
L
O
X
Not
a
concern
at
all,
we
can
do
that
the
pre-con
or
part
of
the
pd
agreement.
However
you'd
like
to
do
it,
we
have
no
no
objections
to
that.
Okay,
we
can
actually
make
it
to
where
it's
just
blocked
off
and
not
even
a
construction
entrance
is
what
we'll
do
on
our
on
our
construction
plans
we'll
make
the
construction
engine
opinion,
so
they
don't
have
a
choice.
Okay,.
A
Q
Q
U
Ordinance
number
2890
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171.044
the
here
and
after
described,
lands
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
e
and
h,
claircona
llc,
located
east
of
coral
hills,
road
and
west
of
clercona
road
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
Z
Good
afternoon
allison
williams
playing
on
one
with
the
city's
planning
division.
The
request
is
to
annex
a
1.34
acre
parcel
into
the
city
of
apopka.
Subject:
property
is
located
east
of
coral
hills,
road
and
west
of
clarcona
road
subject:
property
is
contiguous
to
the
city
limits.
The
applicant
is
proposing
an
industrial
warehouse
on
the
property.
Z
G
G
U
Ordinance
number
2891
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171
0.044,
the
here
and
after
described,
land
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
lisa
l
hill
trustee
located
west
of
the
orlando
apopka
airport
and
lake
penny,
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
N
Bobby.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
The
crisis
that
annex
won
20.617
acre
parcel
into
the
city
of
apopka.
The
property
is
located
west
of
the
apopka
airport
and
lake
penney
aerial
photo
shows
where
the
property
is
located.
It
is
contiguous
to
the
city
limits
and
is
eligible
for
annexation.
Pursuant
to
florida's
statute,
chapter
171.
N
assignment
of
the
city,
future
land
use
and
zoning
designation
will
occur
at
a
later
date
through
the
action
of
the
city
council
development
review
committee
recommends
approval
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
accept
first
reading
ordinance,
2891
and
hold
it
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
on
december
15.
2021.
A
Any
questions
for
bobby
anybody
from
public
which
is
speaking
this
matter,
not
we'll
close.
The
public
hearing,
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2891
at
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption.
So
move
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second
saying
my
commission.
Q
D
U
Ordinance
number
2892
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
republic
of
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171.044
the
here
and
after
described,
lance
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
lisa
l
hill
trustee,
located
west
of
state,
road,
429
and
north
of
leicester,
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
N
A
Any
questions
for
bobby
anybody
from
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
matter,
not
we'll
close.
The
public
hearing
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2892
at
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption
so
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
smith.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
becker,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
D
U
Ordinance
number
2893
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
apopka
florida
to
extend
its
territorial
and
municipal
limits
to
annex
pursuant
to
florida
statute.
171.044
the
hearing
after
described
land
situated
and
being
in
orange
county
florida
owned
by
lisa
l
hill
trustee
located
at
4601
hogshead
road,
providing
for
directions
to
the
city,
clerk,
severability
conflicts
and
an
effective
date.
N
Bobby,
thank
you
request
is
annex
one
seven
point:
three
four
acre
parcel
under
the
city
of
apopka:
it's
located
at
4601,
hogs,
head
road,
it's
contiguous
and
is
eligible
for
annexation.
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval.
The
recommended
motion
is
except
first
reading
ordinance
number
2893
hold
over
for
second
reading
and
adoption
on
december
15th.
A
A
U
Of
apopka
florida
amending
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
apopka
by
amending
part
3
land
development
code,
article
2
administration,
section,
2.4,
standard
review
procedures
for
subsection,
4
2.4.2
pre-application
community
meeting
providing
for
the
removal
of
pre-application
requirement
by
amending
part
3
article
3
zoning
districts,
section
3.2
agricultural
and
transitional
based
zoning
districts.
Sub
subsection
3.2.3
ag
agricultural
district
to
modify
setback
requirements
by
amending
part
3
article
3,
section
3.3
residential
based
zoning
districts,
subsection
3.3.4
rsf-1a
residential
single-family
estate
district
to
modify
lot
with
requirements
by
amending
part
3
article
3,
section
3.3.
U
Subject:
subsection
3.3.5,
rsf-1b
residential
single
family
district
lot
large
lot
to
modify
lot
with
requirements
by
amending
part
3
article
3,
subsection
or
section
3.3,
subsection,
3.3.6,
rtf
residential
2
family
district
to
modify
lot
with
and
setback
requirements
by
amending
part
3
article
3
sec,
section,
3.3,
subsection,
3.3.7,
rmf
presidential
residential
multi-family
district
to
modify
lot
with
and
setback
requirements
by
amending
part.
3
article
3,
section
3.3,
subsection,
3.3.8,
rmu
residential
mixed
use
district
to
modify
lot
with
requirements
by
amending
part
3
article
3,
section,
3.6,
special
purpose-based
zoning
districts,
subsection
3.6.7.
U
Point
standards
by
amanda
by
amending
part
3
article
5,
section,
5.13,
subsection,
5.13.5
private
state
streets
to
modify
automatic
opening
device
standards
by
amending
part
3
article
10
definitions
and
rules
of
measurement,
section,
10.2,
rules
of
measurement,
subsection,
10.2.4
exceptions
and
variations
to
modify
measurement
requirements
by
amending
part.
3.
U
Article
10,
section
10.4
definitions
to
define
cigar
bar
by
amending
part
three
appendix
a
mixed-use
kelly
park,
interchange,
mu,
kpi
form,
base
code,
section
f,
promote
permitted
uses
to
modify
permitted
uses
by
amending
part
three
appendix
a
section
k;
building
design
standards,
subsection
g
single
family
residential
to
modify
rear
loading
lot
standards
by
amending
part.
Three
appendix
b
drought-tolerant
grasses
list
to
add
fr.
O
O
I
call
them
glitch
amendments
that
just
basically
amend
or
clarify
different
portions
of
the
land
development
code,
to
make
them
easy,
either
easier
to
understand
or
putting
something
in
that
we
missed
or
putting
something
in
that's
needed
for
the
future,
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
proactive.
In
regards
to
the
amendments
that
we
do
for
the
land
development
code,
the
public
hearing
schedule
we
had
the
planning
commission
was
november
9th-
and
this
is
our
first
reading.
O
J
L
O
Pages
page
to
page
to
page,
but
but
the
main,
the
main
items
that
I
thought
were
I
I
guess
say
important.
Some
of
these
are
just
kind
of
clarification,
but
the
majority
of
them
like
in
this
case
we're
we're
putting
in
a
requirement
that
for
cul-de-sacs
that
they
can't
do
just
wherever
the
building
line
is
actually
at
for
a
cul-de-sac.
O
O
L
It's
a
big
one
because
it
raises
red
flags
for
me:
okay,
so
bullet
four
reads:
residential
development,
north
of
poncan
and
west
of
rock
springs
road
park
avenue
shall
be
restricted
to
no
more
than
two
million
units,
an
acre
unless
otherwise
authorized
through
the
adopted.
Wichita
parkway
interchange
plan
refer
to
a
popular,
comprehensive
plan.
O
Everything
north
of
pond
can
is
limited
to
dwelling
its
break
for
the
whatever
river
protection
area.
Unless
it's
in
the
comp
plan,
which
is
in
this
case
the
the
kpi-
that's
where
that's
the
only
place
that
can
differentiate
from
that
two
dwellings,
breaker
that
goes
5
10
15
and,
in
some
cases,
20
to
25,
with
bonuses.
L
L
A
Would
be
this
volcano
yeah?
It's
a
state,
yes
see
that
when
they
did
the
the
agreement
back
in
2004,
it
was
a.
It
was
a
compromise
between
the
environmentalists
and
the
developers
as
to
they
gave
us
one
interchange
and
that
interchange
is
at
you
know,
plymouth,
sorrento
and
basically
plymouth
rental
in
kelly
park
and
so
around
that
development
that
one
mile
they
gave
us
all
the
intensity
we
wanted
to
take
but
realized
everything
passed
either
side
of
that
one
mile.
A
F
A
L
O
O
O
O
Oh
no
338,
that
was
oh,
I'm
sorry.
That
was
the
cul-de-sac
thing
that
was,
that
was
the
cul-de-sac
where
the
building
with
for
a
the
house
has
to
be
pushed
back.
If
it's
on
a
cul-de-sac.
Typically
you,
the
narrow
part
of
the
lot,
is
up
in
front,
and
that
has
to
be
at
least
40
percent
of
the
lot
required
lot
width
to
make
it
real
simple.
O
O
O
And
the
other
part
we
did
put
in
is
a
special
exception,
which
has
to
do
with
one
of
the
other
amendments
that
I've
got
coming
up
as
a
special
exception
for
a
car
wash
enclosed
under
the
mixed
use
district.
The
reason
for
this
one
and
I'll
refer
this
back.
When
we
get
into
the
in
a
couple
more
pages,
we
had
a
property
that
was
annexed
in
the
original
use.
O
This
is
over
on
the
west
side
of
apaca
before
you
get
to
bradshaw
and
the
property
owners
originally
annexed
in
under
the
intent
of
building
a
car
wash
and
because
of
changes
in
our
in
our
downtown
area.
We
we
expanded
the
downtown
up
and
down
441,
basically
to
bradshaw,
so
though,
that
use
would
now
no
longer
be
an
acceptable
use,
so
what
we
did
trying
to
honor
previous
agreements
in
terms
of
the
annexation,
we
put
that
as
a
special
exception,
and
then,
if
you
go
well,
let
me.
O
Let
me
go
over
to
page
350
or
page
19..
This
is
where
we
actually
will
allow
car
washes
in
our
downtown
district,
but
it
does
have
there
are
requirements.
This
actually
can
there's,
there's
only
so
much
property.
That's
left
in
our
downtown
district.
To
begin
with.
In
this
case
they
have
to
meet
it's
a
minimum
of
1.5
acres.
They
have
to
have
two
access
points
to
local
and
collector
roads,
which
they
in
this
case
they
do
have
old,
dixie,
highway
and
441..
O
The
minimum
building
setback
is
25
feet
that
takes
into
account
your
buffers
that
are
required
anyway,
and
then
a
landscape
buffer,
in
accordance
with
special
exceptions
for
for
buffer
yards
and
those
types
of
yards
and
then
also
required
parking
cannot
infringe
on
those
landscape.
Buffers
that's
another
section
that
we're
also
meeting,
because
everybody
was
saying
well
gee.
I
have
this
landscape
buffer,
I'm
not
putting
a
building
there,
I'm
going
to
put
parking
in
it.
O
Well,
that's
not
the
idea
behind
a
landscape
buffer
landscape
buffers
for
landscaping,
so
I
made
sure
that
those
those
those
five
items
were
were
clarified
as
part
of
this
amendment,
with
a
special
exception
to
be
able
to
put
into
car
wash
in
the
area.
And
again,
that's
probably
the
only
I
mean
there's
only
so
many
car
washes
that
can
that
an
area
can
support
anyway-
and
in
this
case
it's
a
it's
an
acorn,
it's
actually
more
than
more
than
an
acre
half,
it's
almost
two
acres.
O
O
Backtracking
to
page
349
or
page
18
on
the
on
the
ordinance.
This
is
something
that
I
was
talking
with.
Our
building
official
and
the
state
requires
outdoor
pools
primarily
for
commercial
to
be
fences
to
be
48
inches
high.
So
what
what
we're
doing
is
just
reflecting
what
the
state
rig
actually
requires
for
their
building
code?
O
O
That
yeah,
that's
actually
on
page
351,
where
it
says
a
this
is
or
page
20
of
the
ordinance
itself
says.
A
public
or
private
residential
outdoor
swimming
pool
shall
be
enclosed
by
a
fence
at
least
40
inches
high
or
a
substantial
barrier,
as
approved
by
the
apopka
building
official.
They
usually
again.
This
is
something
where
the
building
official
looks
at.
What
could
somebody's
going
to
come
up
with
something
else?
But
if
it's
a
screen
room
that
also
complies
or
if
they
put
a.
O
Correct-
and
I
don't
know
too
many
people
that
have
private
residential
pools-
that
don't
have
a
six
foot
fence
around
there
around
their
house
around
their
backyard
in
order
to
put
up
so
that's
that's
kind
of
a
given
almost
and
a
lot
of
people
also
just
because
of
the
leads
and
things
we'll
also
do
a
screen
room.
So
they're,
you
know
it's
a
double
protection
at
that
point.
O
The
next
part
is
on
that
same
page,
under
storage
of
boats,
recreational
vehicles
and
trailers.
This
was
originally
in
our
not
in
the
land
development
code,
but
actually
in
part
of
code
of
the
code
of
ordinances.
We
do
not
know
how
it
got
omitted
during
one
of
the
codifications,
but
it
was
taken
out
and,
unfortunately,
police
and
the
the
code
enforcement
officers
couldn't
enforce
something
that
wasn't
in
the
books
in
regards
to
storage
of
trailers
and
things
in
your
front
yard.
O
Most
people
are
kind
of
a
little
more
conscientious
of
their
neighbors,
not
putting
us
a
trailer
or
storage
in
their
front
yard.
But
this
is
one
of
those
items
that
we
needed
to
put
back
in,
so
I
basically
put
it
in
almost
verbatim.
I
updated
some
of
the
language,
but
but
for
storage
of
boats,
recreational
vehicles
and
trailers
in
residential
districts,
and
in
that
I
did
pass
this
by
code
enforcement
and
lieutenant
brick
and
they're
quite
happy
with
being
able
to
get
this
back
in
the
books.
O
O
O
Well,
I'm
going
to
do
50.2
because
that's
actually
one
of
them.
Somebody
did
come
in
with
50.2,
so
you're.
Looking
at
like
a
couple
inches,
you
can't
do
that
out
in
the
field
they'd
be
coming
in,
for
a
variance
for
you
know
a
quarter
of
a
foot,
and
I
don't
want
to
have
to
worry
about
that
part.
So
what
we're
doing
in
in
a
couple
different
sections
I
actually
put
in
residential
lots
between
50
feet
and
55
feet:
she'll
not
be
permitted
to
avoid
the
rear,
loaded
alley
requirements.
O
O
J
O
One
of
the
other
things
that
I
was
working
with
dr
o
about
was
grasses
for
for
yards.
As
you
know,
we
typically
go
with
saint
augustine:
bahia
zoysia,
there's,
actually
quite
a
few
other
ground
covers
that
work
just
as
good,
if
not
better,
and
are
sometimes
even
better,
because
you
don't
have
to
necessarily
mow
them
every
time
you
get
heavy
rains
for
for
a
couple
weeks.
O
O
O
D
O
O
O
We
are
amending
this
because
we,
as
we
were
looking
at
some
of
the
different
properties
and
how
big
some
of
them
are,
we
are
putting
in
for
residential
countries,
states
institutional,
which
is
us
parks
and
recreation.
Industrial,
low
and
industrial
high
end
in
the
air
districts
would
be
allowed
chain
link.
However,
those
that
are
in
the
industrial
high,
if,
if
they
are
put
in,
they
do
have
to
be
either
vinyl
coated
or
powder
coated
or
the
equivalent,
as
approved
by
the
drc.
O
O
It's
basically
electrolysis,
there's
quite
a
few
fences
that
are
out
there,
that
they
they
put
the
chain
link
in
a
bath
and
they
electric
they.
They
basically
electrify
it
so
that
the
paint
when
it's
adhered
to
it
basically
adheres
to
it.
It
goes
into
the
into
the
fence
material
itself.
Instead
of
just
like
a
paint,
oh
okay,
it
makes
it
more
perm,
more
permanent,
okay
than
just
paint
or
even
vinyl
coated.
O
I
worked
for
a
city,
30
gosh,
the
age
of
myself
35
years
ago
down
in
southeast
florida,
and
the
requirement
was
vinyl-coated
chain-link
fence.
The
only
problem
is
vinyl
coated
after
about
10
years,
gets
crisp
and
breaks
it
breaks
off,
and
those
vinyl-coated
chain-link
fences.
Look
like
it's
a
piece.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
mess.
O
Vinyl
then
in
here,
well,
it's
it's
a
variety
and
it
I'm
looking
at
where
it
is
versus
and
and
where
we're
permitting
it
for
industrial,
those
those
the
properties
are
going
to
be
using
it.
The
most
it's
not
going
to
be
in
the
front,
it'll
be
on
the
sides
facing
more
than
likely
other
industrial
property.
Where
you
we
won't
be
able
to
see
it
as
as.
O
O
As
you
remember,
anything
over
25
units
had
to
have
two
access
points,
but
we
didn't
specify
what
those
access
points
needed
to
be.
So
what
we,
what
we
did,
we
did
put
in
25
to
250
required
one
full
access
point,
plus
one
full
access
point,
or
one
planned
secondary
access
point
or
an
emergency
access
point
to
an
existing
road
right
away.
To
give
you
an
example
for
that
one
of
the
apartment
complexes
off
of
old
apopka
road,
there
was
really
only
an
option,
for
this
is
an
apartment
complex
right
across
the
street
from
chelsea
park.
O
Fortunately,
they
had
that
back
access
point
going
through
through
the
oh
gosh,
the
other,
the
other
development
to
the
north
of
that
that's
off
of
john's
road.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
requiring
a
certain
number
of
access
points
for
a
certain
number
of
dwelling
units,
in
this
case
the
the
251
to
750,
two
full
access
points,
so
that
one
that
mr
claussen
brought
in
the
magnolia
terrace
that
one
had
a
little
over
300
units.
O
They
are
required
two
full
access
points,
which
is
what
they've
got
750
to
a
thousand.
That's
where
we're
getting
into
a
huge
development,
two
full
access
points
again
and
then
getting
a
third
either
full
access
point,
a
plant
access
point
or
an
emergency
access
point
off
of
another
road
right
away.
O
Development
like
that
it
shouldn't,
have
a
small
little
access
point
onto
one
road.
It's
it's
got
to
have
something
more
than
that,
that's
just
for
the
safety
of
the
people
that
are
living
there,
and
also
for
emergency
for
for
police
and
fire
anything
over
a
thousand.
Basically,
it's
drc
approval,
but
they
could
probably
base
it
on
those
other
access
points.
If
you
get
1250
or
something
like
that,
we
could
go
with
usually
you'd
probably
end
up,
having
probably
four
access
points
or
something
like
that.
O
The
next
one
is
something
that
the
fire
department
actually
helped
write.
This
one
is
a
real
quick
one,
but
on
page
358
or
page
27
of
the
ordinance,
this
is
where,
for
for
access
points
for
gates
gateway
we
did
put
in
following
numeric
to
install.
This
is
for
the
emergency
access
point,
a
numeric
keypad,
an
sos
cyrus
siren,
operated
sensor
and
a
knox
gate
key
switch,
and
this
is
as
approved
by
the
fire
department.
So
in
case
there's
changes
in
the
future
different
types
of
methods
of
emergency
access.
O
O
Oh
yeah,
page
360
or
page
29,
of
the
ordinance
itself.
This
is
where
we
clarified
some
of
the
information
regarding
shed.
This
is
number
12.,
basically
clarified
that
a
shed
shall
not
extend
into
a
street
side
setback
on
a
double-fronted
lot.
This
is
where,
if
you
have
a
25-foot
front
setback
that
extends
around
to
a
a
side
street,
and
so
this
says
that
you
basically
can't
you
can't
put
your
shed
in
there
either.
You
know
if
the
house
can't
go
there,
you
can't
put
your
shed
in
there.
O
The
other
thing
that
we
did
do
we
did.
We
did
increase
the
square
footage
for
a
shed
from
120
square
feet
to
500
square
feet
for
a
maximum
we've
been
having
some
different.
It
can't
go
in
a
utility
easement,
obviously,
but
if
somebody
has
a
corner-
or
in
this
case
we
also
did
this
for
a
garage.
If
somebody
wanted
to
put
a
garage
or
every
developer
wanted
to
put
a
garage
in
the
back
corner
of
their
lot,
this
gives
them
that
option.
O
O
And
then
one
of
the
things
that
was
occurring
with
the
with
the
covet
outbreak,
we
were
getting
a
lot
of
people
asking
about
drive
up
or
curb
pickup
for
the
kelly
park.
Interchange
area,
in
particular
the
village,
the
village
center,
and
the
way
it
was
written
originally
was
that
no
drive-throughs
were
available
were
allowed
at
all
and
because
the
realization
of
kovid
kind
of
enlightened
everybody
in
regards
to
curbside,
pickup
and
drive
up
or
drive
through.
We
were
getting
developers
that
were
asking
us.
O
Can't
you
make
an
exception
and
I
always
tell
them
as
staff.
I
can't
you
know.
I
can't
I
can't
write
a
variance
for
it
and
we
were
trying
to
avoid
the
idea
of
having
a
variance
for
every
type
of
drive-through
restaurant.
So
what
what?
Actually
we
were
able
to
get
was
quite
a
few
quite
a
bit
of
impact
input
from
the
different
developers
and
to
be
able
to
allow
for
a
drive-through
restaurant
and
so
what
I
I'm
going
to
go
and
read
through
these
just
so
that.
O
Any
particular
questions
this
is
only
for
the
village
center
area.
This
is
the
area
that's
right
around
the
interchange
itself
of
kelly
park
in
the
429.,
basically,
where
publix
is
and
then
the
the
there's
also
part
of
the
village
center.
That's
on
the
east
side
of
plymouth,
sorrento
also,
that
was
one
of
the
main
areas
that
they
were
looking
at
and
also
north
of
the
public's
on
on
kelly
park.
O
O
Service
windows
order,
kiosks
and
drive
stacking
spaces
shall
not
be
visible
from
any
public
road.
In
that
case
there
we
could
end
up
having
either
fencing
or
landscaping
that
that
could
come
into
play
for
some
of
that.
But
right
now
we
don't
allow
kiosks
or
drive-throughs
to
face
any
public
street
anyway.
So
this
is
just
talking
about
the
drive-through.
We
don't
want
the
drive-through,
as
as
the
major
visual
for
what
we
envisioned
was
a
an
elite
village
center.
O
Drive-Through
stacking
spaces
shall
not
infringe
on
any
parking
lot
spaces,
so,
in
other
words,
if
you've
got
a
drive-through
part
drive
through
lane,
they
shouldn't
be
blocking
your
your
parking
kind
of
makes
sense
must
be
incorporated
into
a
multi-tenant
building.
So
in
other
words,
you
can't
just
have
a
mcdonald's
with
stuck
in
behind.
It
needs
to
be
combined
with
something
I
shouldn't
say:
mcdonald's,
but
a
fast
food,
restaurant,
or
something
like
that.
Okay,.
O
That's
a
pretty
good
sized
restaurant
internal
project
signage.
This
is
one
I
actually
put
in
because
I
was
thinking
about
how
are
you
going
to
get
them
back
into
the
internal
portion
of
the
project?
So
I
did
put
in
I
put
internal
project.
Signage
directing
drive-through
traffic
may
be
approved
by
the
drc.
Maximum
of
two
directional
ground
signs,
three
feet:
high
and
three
square
feet
with
drc
approval
and
building
permits.
O
D
J
Because
my
mouth
was
so
dry,
I
I
have
a
pro.
I
have
a
concern
with
public
safety
when
there's
a
problem
that
they
don't
have
the
visibility
to
go
and
see
if
there's
a
criminal
act
occurring
that
they
don't
have
that
visibility
that
they're
blinded
and
come
into
something.
That's
my
only
concern.
No
one
should
be
in
the
point
where
you
you're
not
visible
in.
O
J
J
O
Yeah
these-
these
are
things
that
that
were
ideas
that
were
presented
to
us,
and
so
we
obviously
we
tweaked
them
a
little
bit
more
to
be
able
to
have
some
of
that.
The
visual
the
whole
idea
was
not
to
be
able
to
see
a
drive-through
from
the
street,
but
various
minor
portions
internal.
You
could
have
a
just
a
a
buffer,
but
it's
not
going
to
necessarily
block
a
car
visual.
J
O
L
O
If
they
replace
their
lawn,
they
should
comply
with
the
code
that
does
not.
You
know
they
could
still
go
with
bahaya.
They
could
still
go
with
zoysia.
They
could
go
with
pretty
much
any
of
those
type
of
ground
cover
grasses
right
now.
Our
code
does
not
allow
for
saint
augustine
in
the
front
yard,
so
you
can
have
it
in
the
you
can
have
it
in
no.
R
O
L
O
A
Okay,
all
right
does
anybody
from
the
public
wishes
speak
on
this
matter?
Not
we'll
close.
The
public
hearing
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2882
at
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption.
So
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
bankston
seconded
by
commissioner
velazquez.
All
those
in
favor.
P
T
In
addition
to
that,
though,
it
did
then
prohibit
local
governments
from
banning
food
trucks
from
operating
within
the
city
limits
within
their
city
limits.
So,
therefore,
what
the
purpose
of
this
ordinance
is
is
to
provide
locations
for
these
mobile
food,
vendors
or
food
trucks
to
operate
within
the
confines
of
the
land
development
code.
T
One
of
the
issues
that
has
come
up
in
in
this
is
in
regards
to
at
least
two
of
the
different
zoning
designations,
where
we've
allowed
for
these
to
be
used,
have
residential
uses
which
are
permitted.
So
the
question
has
has
come
up
as
to
whether
is
there
sufficient
standards
to
protect
the
resident's
residential
uses
for
food
trucks
from
operating
within
a
lot
that
has
a
residential
use.
T
So
if
there's
a
residential
budding
residential
district
50
feet
from
that
property
line,
in
addition
to
it
must
be
at
least
150
feet
from
any
residential
structure.
That
would
include
the
residential
structure
on
the
lot
and
then
do
a
radius
around
the
mobile
food
vendor
of
150
feet.
If
there
are
any
other
residential
structures,
we
can
tighten
that
to
me
to
to
be
that
every
residential
structure
within
150
feet
of
the
food
truck's
proposed
location,
must
provide
a
written
consent
that
the
food
truck
will
operate.
T
We
can
clarify
that
language
because,
right
now
it
says
they
cannot.
Unless
that
I
mean
it,
it
can
be
interpreted
or
I
can
make
it
even
clearer,
but
right
now
as
written
it
can
be.
It
is
inter
it
can
be
interpreted
that
any
residential
structure
within
150
feet
of
that
food
truck
has
to
give
consent
for
that
truck
to
operate
within
that
150
foot
radius.
T
They
can
they
they
can.
They
can
consent
to
a
smaller
radius,
but
it
has
to
be
it
has
to
be
written
as
of
right.
Now
the
the
150
foot
radius
can
be
reduced
under
the
code
if
there
is
an
intervening
commercial
use.
So
if
there
is
a
commercial
structure
that
is
in
between
the
food
truck
and
the
residential
use,
and
that
commercial
structure
shields
the
food
truck
from
that
residential
use,
then
then
it's
a
50-foot
buffer.
So
this
is
going
to
be
contemplating
in
these
mixed
uses.
T
Where
you
have
commercial
and
residential
abutting,
if
you've
got
a
straight
line
of
sight
of
150
feet
between
a
residential
structure
and
the
food
truck,
that
residential
structure
has
to
consent,
and
we
can.
We
can
expressly
provide
that
that
residential
structure,
the
owner,
that
residential
structure
has
to
provide
written
consent
for
the
food
truck
to
operate
and
then
they're
going
to
be
the
adjoining
other
standards
for
any
food
truck
operating
on
any
property.
T
One
of
the
key
components
is
that
food
trucks
cannot
operate
on
vacant
lots
so
just
because
you
do
get
the
consent
of
the
property
owner
of
a
vacant
lot.
There
has
to
be
a
permitted
structure
constructed
structure
on
the
lot.
The
only
exception
is
that
if
your
vacant
lot
abuts
a
developed
lot
and
both
lots
are
under
the
same
ownership,
then
the
vacant
lot
can
be
used
for
the
placement
of
food
trucks,
because
it's
going
to
treat
the
two
adjoining
lots
as
one
for
the
purposes
of
of
the
use.
T
Some
of
the
other
restrictions
are
one
that
food
trucks
now
cannot
operate
on
public
rights
of
way
unless
they've,
unless
they've
received
a
certain
permit
from
the
city.
That
would
be
for
any
special
events
that
the
city
has
and
we're
going
to
close
down
or
right
away.
The
food
trucks
will
be
parked,
however,
without
such
a
spec
without
such
a
a
permit,
a
a
property
owner
cannot
allow
for
the
food
truck
to
operate.
T
However,
then,
have
the
food
truck
parked
on
an
adjoining
right
away
to
the
property
to
the
property,
now
that
food
truck
must
be
placed
on
that
pro
on
the
property
and
outside
of
the
rights
of
way,
this
would
be
practically
speaking.
We'd
want
to
eliminate
food
trucks
being
parked
on
our
on-street
parking,
taking
up
several
parking
spaces
in
order
to
operate,
you
can't
operate
on
the
public
property
unless
you
have
received
a
special
permit
from
the
city
to
operate
on
the
public
property.
T
T
I
researched
various
other
jurisdictions
that
have
that
have
implemented
a
similar
ordinance
to
this,
and
this
one
is
very
compatible
with
an
ordinance
that
just
recently
been
adopted
by
the
city
of
northport
on
the
gulf
coast
to
address
the
the
food
trucks.
The
ordinance
is
consistent
with
the
current
statutory
requirements
and
preemptive
requirements
of
the
state
in
regards
to
the
food
truck.
The
city
is
not
regulating
any
of
the
health
related
matters
of
the
food
trucks,
what
they
serve,
how
it's
prepared
that
has
been
preempted
to
the
state.
T
This
ordinance
is
simply
a
locational
requirements
and
these
other
requirements
that
the
state
has
allowed
the
local
governments
to
address
one
of
the
other
important
aspects
for
those
food
trucks
that
are
going
to
be
operating
on
public
property.
The
ordinance
provides
for
specific
insurance
requirements
that
need
to
be
met
before
a
food
truck
can
operate
within
the
public
property
or
subject
to
a
special
event.
So
these
are
now
the
minimums
when
we
have
events,
if
or
if
the
city
elects
to
sponsor
events
at
its
parks.
T
L
I
read
the
text
and
now,
when
you
presented
what
I
read
in
the
text
like,
I
feel
like,
I'm
lost
okay.
So
if
I
look,
let
me
just
throw
out
some
use
cases
for
you.
So
if
I
look
at
the
permitted
use
table
for
mobile
food
vendor,
the
only
residential
was
the
residential
mixed
juice
like
you
described.
So
let
me
use
my
neighborhood
as
an
example,
so
I
would
probably
be
classified
as
the
rsf-1b
residential
classification
and
in
our
neighborhood.
We
have
a
pretty
large
park.
T
L
T
T
But
along
those
lines,
if
you
look
at
the
code,
if
you
look
at
the
table
in
pd,
so
we
have,
if
we
have
large
communities
that
have
a
plan,
a
pd
designation,
then
the
development
agreement
could
accommodate
temporary
uses
of
these
types
of
uses.
As
an
example,
I
can
give
you
just
as
a
personal
example,
my
former
community,
on
certain
fridays.
A
food
truck
was
brought
in
outside
of
the
clubhouse
and
then
usually
there
was
you
had
to
pre-order.
T
So
it
wasn't
a
case
where
you
were
folks
were
sitting
around
in
tables
around
the
food
truck.
If
you
didn't
pre-order
earlier
in
the
day
and
you
got
there,
they
were
sold
out,
but
that
would
be
the
concept
of
how
it
could
be
permitted
in
the
pd
district.
So
you
would
have,
if
you
have
these
newer
communities.
T
L
T
That
it's
it's,
the
issue
is
not
that
it
was
too
pervasive.
It
was
actually
it's.
The
issue
that
this
ordinance
is
trying
to
remedy
is
that
the
city
was
too
restrictive
because
under
the
current
struck
under
the
current
say
regime,
but
under
the
current
statutory
regime,
you
can't
have
a
food
truck
anywhere
in
the
city
unless
you
come
to
the
city
and
apply
for
a
special
use,
permit
that
becomes
too
restrictive
under
what
the
statutory
guidelines
are
when
it
comes
to
preemption.
T
This
now
allows
them
to
be
permitted,
uses
so
they're
not
coming
in
for
a
special
use
for
a
special
for
special
exception,
you're
permitted
by
right.
As
long
as
you
go
into
these
zoning
districts
and
you
meet
the
standards
that
the
zoning
district
provides
similar
to
any
other
similar
to
other
uses,
mainly
it's
really
following
the
restaurant
use
like
technically
under
the
mud.
T
The
way
that
the
the
we
tried
to
address
these
situations
as
they
came
up,
a
mobile
food
truck,
is
most
equivalent
and
used
to
a
fast
food
vendor
to
a
fast
food
restaurant
under
the
mud
structure
within
an
mud
lot
fast.
Food
restaurants
are
not
not
a
permitted
use,
so
this
is
actually
more
expansive
than
restrictive.
It's
not
this.
The
impetus
for
this
was
not
to
restrict
the
use
of
food
trucks.
It
would
actually
permit
the
use
of
food
trucks
within
the
city
limits
which
are
not
right
now
permitted
under
the
code.
Okay,.
L
T
You
must
have
the
written
consent
of
every
other
lot
owner
around
that
or
or
the
abutting.
However,
it's
best
practically
speaking,
we
can.
We
can
tweak
that
provision
for
the
the
property
owner
if
it's
it
can
also
contemplate.
If
you've
got
a
commercial
lot
of
commercially
zoned
lot,
that's
actually
a
budding
on
residential
the
distance
requirements
can
go.
T
We
can
do
a
subsection
that,
if
any
food
truck
to
be
operating
on
a
resident
on
a
lot
with
a
residential
use
within
a
permitted,
zoning
designation
must
also
obtain
the
written
consent
of
all
the
budding
residential
lots
within,
and
then
we
can
deep
that
we
can
deem
the
distance
requirement
if
you
want
to
have.
If
you
wanted
to
be
the
budding
lots,
if
you
wanted
to
cover
150
foot
radius,
similar
just
practically
speaking
similar
to
what
would
be
a
radius
for
notice
of
of
property
owners
around
it.
We
can.
L
Because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
mobile
food
vendor
is
not
causing
undue
stress
or
inconvenience
to
the
directly
abutting
properties
in
which
they're
operating
and
if
that's
the
case,
you
know
that's
why
I'm
confused?
Why,
like
p,
wouldn't
be
in
every
single
zoning
classification,
they
would
just
be
subject
to
the
distance
requirements
that
you've
laid
out
right
as
long
as
you're
doing.
What's
what's
right
by
the
people
that
you're
operating
next
to
let's
adhere
to
the
requirements
right.
T
I
mean
the
zoning
categories
that
were
selected
are
those
that
allow
for
for
a
similar
use.
If
you
look
that
the
permitted
uses
it's
similar
to
restaurants
are
permitted
in
rmu,
even
though
you've
got
a
residential
mixed
use,
so
there's
a
compatibility
issue
now
the
question
is:
do
we
want
a
if
you
have
if
you're
a
like.
L
A
birthday
party
like
again
I'll
go
back
to
my
own
neighborhood
if
in
our
community
park,
if
we're
doing
like
a
halloween
event-
and
we
say
oh
we're
going
to
have
a
ice
cream
truck
or
a
dessert
truck
out
there
to
operate
and
they're
a
mobile
food
vendor.
By
definition,
I
would
want
to
be
able
to
say
yeah,
let's
hire
those,
because
that
would
be
a
lot
of
fun.
T
It
wouldn't
be
a
lot
it
under
the
current
code.
It
wouldn't
be
allowed
either
as
currently
as
currently
drafted,
without
this
dot
without
this
code,
that
would
not
be
permitted.
Okay,
because,
as
it's
currently
adopted,
these
a
mobile
food
vendor
requires
a
special
use
permit.
Now,
if
we
we
can
add
so
that
if
you
want
to
have
it
as
a
one-time,
a
fall,
have
it
fall
under
a
special
use
permit
for
bringing
a
such
a
such
an
event
for
a
special
event.
T
So
that's!
That's
why
we're
really
limiting
the
zoning
district
to
those
to
have
these
we're
basically
treating
these
while
they're
removable
food
trucks
we're
treating
them
like
restaurants
and
when
they
operate
in
an
area
we
want
to
have
that
be
compatible
with
the
area
and
meet
these
these
standards?
It's
really
not
an
addressing
of
these
one-offs.
It's
really
going
to
come
down
to
because
a
lot
of
these
times
you
can
have
a
lot
of
property
owners.
What
has
occurred
and
occurs
in
other
cities?
T
Is
you
have
a
if
you
have
a
property
owner
within
one
of
these
zoning
districts
and
they
want
to
have
a
food
truck
event
under
the
under
this
ordinance,
as
adopted,
you
could
have
up
to
four
food
trucks
on
your
property
and
various
cities.
Do
this
being
orlando?
Has
these
food
truck
events
in
the
milk
district?
I
know
deland
has
them
in
downtown
deland
where
they'll
operate
on
on
properties
and
they
you
basically
have
mobile
their
mobile
food
courts
with
these.
So
this
allows
this
to
occur.
There's
no
restriction!
T
The
only
restriction
is
is
no
more
than
four
food
trucks
within
a
property
if
it
can
be
accommodated,
but
it
enables
property
owners,
commercial
property
owners,
an
opportunity
to
generate
business
and
generate
traffic
to
their
to
their
businesses.
By
having
multiple
food
trucks
for
certain
events,
and
then
now
these
would
be
permitted
as
long
as
you
receive
the
the
proper
consent
of
the
property
owner
and
that
the
food
truck
owner
receives
the
proper
consent
of
the
property
owner
to
operate.
So
it
really
does
open
it's.
It's
not
restrictive.
T
I
F
A
C
Clinton
stanley
address
248
west
7th
street
apocalypse
florida
and
to
also
to
add
on
to
the
food
truck
food
and
mobile
food
vendor
thing
like
what
the
city
of
apopka
do
what
she
said
earlier.
I
am
where
the
city
of
the
park
is
my
certificate
holder
for
my
insurance
company,
so
juan
martin
had
the
fill
of
fame.
The
city
of
apocalypse,
my
certificate
holder,
so
having
food
trucks
in
the
area
also
generates
revenue
for
the
surrounding
business.
C
Like
the
gas
company
like
apocalypse,
they
generate
revenue
for
having
food
trucks
in
the
area
because
I'm
one
of
their
customers,
so
we're
talking
about
building
and
bringing
like
bringing
the
city
like
bringing
a
better
city
together.
So
when
you're
talking
to
having
a
mobile
food
truck
you're
talking
the
convenience
of
people
that
doesn't
have
transportation
to
get
to
the
mcdonald's,
the
people
that
don't
have
the
transportation
to
get
to
whatever
stores
you.
C
He
said
with
the
ice
cream
truck
the
ice
cream
truck
has
been
able
to
move
around
the
city
as
a
mobile
food
dispensary
for
years,
and
how
do
they
get
a
permit
for
a
mobile
food
service
when
you
don't
have
a
mobile
permit
for
a
food
vendor
and
they
pretty
much
both
basically
are
mobile
food
vendors,
but
the
ice
cream
truck
improve
can
obtain
a
permit,
but
the
food
vendors
cannot
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
figure
out.
So
all
right.
A
Okay,
anybody
else
from
the
public.
We
should
speak
on
this
one,
so
I
guess
we're
we
need
to
get
back,
and
then
I
michael
on
the
commissioner
becker's
asking
about.
Can
we
make
it
a?
Can
we
get
a
weekend
for
the
the
ones
that
aren't
permitted
a
weekend
permit,
so
we
don't.
What
we
won't
don't
want.
Is
somebody
in
your
neighborhood
to
have
it
they're.
D
T
It
yeah
so,
if
you're
a
resident
you
want
to
have
a
a
food
truck
on
your
property,
we
could
probably
bring
it
in
as
as
a
special
event
permit
yeah.
So
you
would
come
in
and
apply
you
as
a
property
and
reply
as
a
for
a
special
event
permit,
as
it
would
be
done
now.
We
can
put
that
in
the
code
so
that
any
you
know
or
whether
it
needs
I
can
see
if
it
whether
it
requires
a
codification
or
it
just.
T
Property
now
again
hoa,
and
if
that
hoa
is
governor
of
the
pd
they're
already
allowed
in
the
pd
as
long
as
they
have
the
company.
You
know
it's
got
to
come
into
the
development
agreement
if
they
want
to
amend
the
agreement
or
any
new
developments,
but
we
can
probably
come
up
with
a
special
event
permit
to
just
as
a
as
a
simple
one-off.
T
T
A
Q
Q
Q
T
T
T
T
T
I
know
that
one
of
the
issues
and
one
of
the
questions
that
came
up
at
the
planning
commission
is
well.
Can
there
be
some
architectural
restrictions
or
certain
things
that
could
be
done,
because
the
city
of
apopka
does
not
have
such
architectural
restrictions
that
are
that
are
unique
to
apopka.
I
gave
in
examples
when
I
used
to
practice
in
private
practice
in
land
use
down
in
south
florida
there,
especially
in
palm
beach
county.
There
are
several
cities
in
palm
beach
county
actually
had
specific
architectural
guidelines
when
it
came
to
designs
and
colors.
T
I
gave
the
example
in
the
planning
commission
that
in
city
town,
the
village
of
royal
palm
beach,
green
and
tan
were
the
prominent
palettes,
which
means
you
haven't
lived
till.
You
see
a
green
and
tan
bank
of
america,
the
bank
of
america
signs
had
to
be
green.
The
I
represented
an
autozone
and
my
autozone
client
had
to
provide
green
autozone
signs.
He
could
not
they
could.
T
They
were
not
able
to
use
their
own
natural
color
palettes,
but
the
city
of
pocket
doesn't
have
that
and
we
don't
we're
not
looking
at
going
into
that
extreme
of
a
restriction
when
it
comes
to
architectural
guidelines
and
standards,
but
it
will
follow
the
current
city's
non-commerci
non-residential
design
standards,
so
that
is
the
the
gist
of
the
ordinance.
It's
really
creating
this
category.
T
T
T
We
looked
at
their
studies
and
they're
incorporating
those
studies
as
part
of
this
ordinance
and
in
order
to
then
they
had
a
similar
situation.
They
had
a
proliferation
of
dollar
stores,
really
clustered
around
the
city,
so
they
looked
at
doing
the
distance
requirement
as
well
as
they
have
as
similar
to
ours.
They
have
these
non-residential
design
standards,
so
it
is
modeled
after
that,
ordinance
that
where
that
city
tried
to
address
this,
this
concern.
J
I
listened
to
the
pnz,
I
mean,
and
I
did
hear
the
kind
of
the
issues
and
the
concerns
from
some
of
the
pnz
members
number
one
you're
right
that
I
did
hear
about
the
architectural
design
of
the
building.
We
can't
regulate
that
and
I
think
this.
The
second
one
which
I
found
interesting,
was
that,
where
are
the
residents?
This
is
what
I
kind
of
got.
Where
are
the
residents
that
don't
want
the
dollar
stores,
because
the
economy
drives
the
dollar
stores?
J
But
what
I
want
to
say
is
they
may
not
be
in
our
chamber,
but
they
definitely
do
contact
the
commissioners
and
if
you
go
on
the
social
media,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
different
administrators
and
we
have
really
good
administrative
sites
that
we
all
kind
of
follow.
That
gives
us
sort
of
a
tone
of
what
our
residents
want.
Our
constituents
are
asking
for.
J
So
that's
basically
where
we
get
us
as
the
commissioners
where
we
get
the
feedback
from
they
don't
need
to
be
in
our
chamber
to
tell
us
they
don't
want
a
dollar
store
right
now,
even
today
I
went
on
one
of
the
good
administrative
sites
for
apopka
and
someone
asked
what's
being
built
behind
us.
Well,
all
the
responses
and
comments
were
very
sarcastic
and
negative.
They
were
like
a
dollar
store.
Dollar
store,
another
dollar
store.
So
that's
telling
me
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
residents
are
basically
saying
we're
tired
of
dollar
stores.
J
J
D
A
B
Too,
I'm
I
will
say
that
you
know
small
box
stores.
They
are
a
prime
business
and
they're
staying
in
business,
but
likewise
having
them.
One
on
top
of
the
other
is
something
that
we
need
control.
So
it's
what
we're
trying
to
control
just
a
placement
where
they
are
that
we're
not
infiltrating
them
all
in
one
spot.
Okay,.
L
L
But
I
I
would
argue
that
we
do
limit
businesses.
That's
the
whole
point
of
the
permitted
use
table,
I
mean
we've,
we've
got
definitions
of
business
types
and
they're
allowed
in
certain
areas
and
not
a
lot
in
other
areas.
In
fact,
we
still
have
a
complete
ban
on
medical
marijuana
dispensaries,
so
to
say
that
we
don't
do
this
today.
I
I
think
is
is
a
little
misleading
and
I
think
it
is
telling
that
you
know
this
has
been
publicized.
L
I
think
we
first
went
over
the
presentation
in
may
june
time
frame,
we've
had
the
moratorium
in
place.
This
has
been
advertiser
covered
by
our
local
media,
as
well
as
the
orlando
sentinel.
So
the
idea
that
no
one
from
that
side
of
the
business
businesses
in
here
to
argue
against
this
buffer
requirement
is
telling
as
well
and
to
commissioner
velasquez's
point.
You
know.
Social
media
is
not
the
end-all
be-all,
but
you
know
I've.
Certainly
the
last
two
commissioner
races
when
I'm
at
the
door-
and
this
is
this-
is
problematic
for
people.
L
So
I
you
know,
I
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
up
with
the
language.
I
think
it's
it's
right.
You
know
the
buffer
requirement,
I
think
is
going
to
do
well
for
us
it
doesn't
totally
ban
them,
because
I
know
that
people
have
a
mindset
that
you
know
businesses
shouldn't
be
outright
banned
in
any
location.
It's
just.
We
want
to
separate
them
and
create
buffers
to
have
them
come
naturally
to
our
cities.
So
thank
you.
A
Yes,
I'd
like
to
say
ditto
michael
did
a
really
nice
job
really
researching
this
and
it
came
up
with
something
I
think
that
we
can.
We
can
all
you
know
be
proud
of.
So
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
guess
anybody
from
the
public.
We
should
speak
on
this
matter.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing,
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
ordinance
number
2884
first
reading
and
hold
over
for
a
second
reading
and
adoption.
D
U
T
T
The
what
we've
done
is
we've
actually
similar
to
it's
the
way
I
like
to
draft
ordinances,
I
don't
like
there's
no
point
in
reinventing
the
wheel
when
I
can
go
through
various
jurisdictions
in
the
state
of
florida
and
see
how
they've
done
it,
research
various
different
other
cities
to
see
how
they've
done
do
their
their
basically
their
statutory
framework
for
cross
connection
and
what
we
have
done.
The
amendment
is
we
are,
we
are
completely
repealing
the
current
ordinance,
coordinate
and
replacing
it
with
this.
T
The
new
ordinance
is
really
a
streamlined
and
efficient
version
of
the
prior
ordinance.
It
makes
it
fairly
clear
that
this
is
the
over
the
way
that
the
structure
is
that
the
ordinance
provides
the
overall
framework
and
will
then
authorize
the
city
council
to
adopt
what
is
the
cross
connection
control
manual.
T
Basically,
these
are
the
authorizations.
This
is
the
framework.
These
are
the
minimum
requirements
that
are
necessary
and
then
your
details
and
your
operational
details
fall
within
the
manual
which
will
be
coming
to
you
in
in
two
weeks.
But
basically
it
follows
along
the
same
lines
that
if
you
are
a
property
where
there
can
be
a
potential
cross
connection,
so
if
your
property
doesn't
fall
into
that
category,
you're
not
subject
to
it,
but
when
there
is
a
potential
cross
connection,
such
a
device
needs
to
be
installed.
T
It
doesn't
go
into
the
specifics
of
what
type
or
how
many?
How
often
the
inspections
are?
It
still
falls.
This
is
what's
going
to
be
required,
it's
going
to
it's
going
to
refer
to
the
manual,
but
the
overall
gist
of
this
is
still.
It
falls
in
consistent
with
every
other
jurisdiction,
the
majority
of
jurisdictions
that
we
that
we
looked
at
and
examined.
T
The
important
distinction
is
that
the
impetus
and
the
risk,
the
responsibility
of
obtaining
the
inspections
of
replacing
the
documents,
still
fall
on
the
property
owner.
The
city
will
implement
a
program
to
issue
reminders
to
to
similar
to
fire
alarm
inspection,
so
there'll
be
reminders
that
an
inspection
needs
to
be
done
and
report,
whether
the
your
device
passes
or
fails,
and
then
that
will
be
the
implementation.
Then
there
are
the
the
ordinance
gives
a
various
methods
for
enforcement.
Doesn't
limit
enforcement
to
just
one
aspect?
T
If
it's
up,
I
think
it's
upstream
is
the
property
owner's
responsibility,
because
the
city
cannot
control
what
occurs
within
the
property
owner's
system
within
their
property
in
their
home,
their
pipes
to
the
builders?
That's
not
a
city
per
that's,
not
really
the
city's
mechanism.
So
that's
where
we
have
that
dividing
line
on
responsibilities,
but
the
ordinance
streamlines
the
program
and
makes
it
clear
and
is
consistent
with
the
florida
administrative
code,
which
is
what
the
consent
order
has
the
language
in
the
consent
order
was
at
any
new
ordinance.
T
L
I'll
table
questions
until
the
next
reading.
So
if
I
can
just
re-read
back
what
you
just
said
is
basically
the
ordinance
is
laying
out
kind
of
the
framework
of
what
that
manual
is
going
to
give
more
detail.
Regarding
so
like
this
ordinance
at
a
high
level
talks
about
who
needs
to
have
a
cross
control
or
a
cross
connection.
Who
needs
to
test
that
the
period
and
cycle
recurrence
of
when
they
need
to
test
that
high
level.
The
ramifications,
if
they
do
not
do
the
testing.
L
T
T
D
L
D
T
Say
you're
required
to
have
the
inspected.
The
manual
is
actually
going
to
go
into
well
how
the
inspections
are
to
occur,
the
timelines,
the
inspections,
the
ordinances
you
have
to
have
this
the
manual
say.
Well,
these
are
the
ones
you
have
to
have.
So
that's
that's
the
way
that
the
the
program
is
structured.
T
T
A
J
J
A
D
A
L
A
Q
R
R
The
second
amendment
is
for
the
leave
station
supervisory
control
and
data
acquisition,
which
is
cada
and
it's
the
developers,
provide
the
funding
in
advance
and
the
city
makes
the
improvements
on
the
leaf
stations
and
the
requested
amount
is
sixteen
thousand
dollars,
and
the
third
amendment
is
for
the
simaron
hills.
Special
assessment
and
the
funding
source
is
from
the
non-ad
valorem
special
assessment
program
from
the
simaram
hills
subdivision,
and
this
is
to
for
the
civil
room.
Hills
subdivision
requires
entrance
cleanup
and
signage,
and
this
is
ten
thousand
dollars.
A
Okay,
any
questions
for
vladimir
anybody
from
public.
We
should
speak
on
this
matter,
not
we'll
close.
The
public
hearing
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
resolution
2021-62
regarding
the
fy
2122
budget.
Amendment
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
velazquez.
Second,
second
by
commissioner
becker,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
O
U
P
This
is
a
maintenance
agreement
with
dot.
We
have
one
in
place
right
now.
I
think
it
expires
december
15th.
We
have
two
other
maintenance
agreements.
We
do
streetlight
maintenance
and
traffic
signal
maintenance.
This
is
the
the
highest
dollar
agreement.
This
year,
dot
came
to
us
and
asked
us
to
renegotiate
and
what
they
did
was
they
created
some
new
categories.
They
also
upped
the
amounts
for
some
of
the
items
that
you
you
see
in
the
agreement
and
they
asked
us
to
take
on
the
ones
that
we
really
felt
like.
We
could
do
right.
P
P
So
we're
seeing
a
net
increase
of
71
754
dollars
to
to
do
this
agreement
and
the
best
way
I
would
describe
it
is
we're
getting
more
money
for
doing
less,
there's
edward
and
I
and
paul
hathaway
carefully,
contemplated
and
negotiated
this.
I
think
that
that
this
is
something
that
we
can
do.
I
I
think
the
best
part
is
if,
if
we
build
the
money
anyway,
if
we
don't
specifically
use
it
all,
we
keep
it
at
the
end
same
with
the
the
street
lights
and
signal
agreements.
P
A
D
U
J
Q
It's
beginning
to
feel
a
lot
like
christmas
and
really
looking
forward
to
the
things
in
december.
It's
always
a
great
time
in
apopka,
you
know
the
tree
lighting
ceremony,
the
parade
shop
with
a
cop,
a
lot
of
great
things
that
happen
here
as
a
community.
So
just
looking
forward
to
this
month,
mr
smith,.
D
L
Just
a
couple
of
status
items
two
meetings
ago:
I
think
it
was
we
had
during
council
reports.
I
brought
up
the
idea
of
analyzing
the
developers
agreement
with
taurus
in
terms
of
what
staff
authority
was
in
terms
of
making
final
decisions
on
anything
that
goes
in
the
city
center,
and
I
was
just
curious
if
we
had
a
point
of
view
on
that.
A
T
Some
suspenders
on
it
right
at
the
end.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
any
type
of
a
development
that
will
be
done
on
the
property.
Will
staff
will
present
it
we'll
have
it
undergo
the
review
process
of
planning,
commission
and
and
city
council,
okay
and
then
any
changes
to
the
language?
I
know
that
we
are
going
over
tweaking
or
trying
to
necessarily
tweak
the
language
to
get
a
clarification
as
to,
if
anything,
the
one
l,
the
one
word
that's
causing.
The
issue
is,
what
does
subsidized
mean?
T
I
went
on
to
the
hud's
definitions
and
actually
how
hud
treats
subsidies
is
a
lot
broader
than
what
could
be
commonly
known.
As
to
the
point
where
I
mean
technically,
if,
if
a
within
the
city,
if,
if
a
property
owner
tries
to
get
assistance,
cra
assistance
that
constitutes
subsidized
housing,
their
definition
of
subsidy
is
a
lot
broader
than
than
just
having
direct
subsidies.
It
could
low-interest
loans
that
have
to
be
paid
back
are
considered
subsidies
in
hud's
eyes.
T
So,
while
the
language,
our
current
language,
has
that
subsidy,
a
subsidy
is
not
necessarily
just
a
direct
payment,
it
covers
a
broad
range
of
economic
instruments
that
don't
necessarily
end
up
equating
to
what
would
be
commonly
referred
to
as
a
low
income,
housing
or
sub
public
housing.
Hud
treats
the
term
subsidy
in
a
much
broader
context
than
than
you
would
expect.
T
T
Is
it
a
subsidy
directly
to
the
tenant
to
a
system
in
rent
payments,
or
does
it
also
include
incentives
and
economic
incentives
to
a
point
where
tax
incentives
in
hud's
eyes
are
deemed
subsidies,
so
any
incentives
that
a
local
government
does
to
bring
in
development
into
a
neighborhood,
whether
it's
low-income
or
not,
is
actually
defined
as
as
subsidies?
So
that's
why
we
one
of.
D
T
Things
we'll
learn
day,
one
in
law
school
is
every
word
matters,
so
it's
going
to
come
down
to
how
we're
going
to
really
limit
the
scope
of
what
that
word
is
and
how
we
define
it
within
the
development
agreement
to
be.
This
is
the
type
of
use
that
this
is
what
subsidized
housing
or
subsidized
project
means.
T
We
can
limit
it,
because
if
we
we
cannot
use
the
hud
definition
as
a
crutch,
because
that
would
almost
in
essence,
almost
really
limit
any
type
of
development,
because
if,
if
I
mean
some
of
the
uses
that
people
would
clamor
for,
if
there
are
tax
incentives
for
them,
it
constitutes
subsidized.
It's
a
subsidized
project.
If
a
developer
uses
tax
incentives,
so
we
can,
we
can
work
with
the
language
to
really
get
it.
G
Actually,
commissioner-
and
I
spoke
to
jessica
in
procurement-
actually,
the
last
last
week,
the
week
before
before
thanksgiving
and
then
today
as
well,
that
selection
committee
has
been
formed
has
been
selected,
and
so
they
will
be
receiving
their
packets
soon
to
to
review
that
that
package
and
come
back
to
you
with
a
recommendation.
Okay,.
L
G
So,
first
of
all,
let
me
give
you
the
report
on
the
sales
tax,
the
state
sales
tax,
where
we
are
not
too
bad
right
now
things
look
pretty
good,
pretty
positive
this
time
for
the
second
month
again,
this
is
november,
and
you
can
see
that
we
are
running
just
about
a
little
over
23
000
short
of
our
under
budget.
What
we've
budgeted
again
it's
early
in
the
year.
That's
a
positive
sign,
still
negative,
but
hopefully
it
will.
G
You
know,
have
an
upward
trend
and
we
will
meet
our
budget
or
exceed
our
budget
when
it
comes
to
sales
tax.
But
this
is
one
we
need
to
watch
continue
to
watch
as
we
move
through
this
current
year
with
the
things
that
are
kind
of
out
there
on
the
horizon.
Hopefully
we
will,
we
will
have
a
great
winter
and
a
great
spring,
and
we
won't
have
to
worry
about
a
lot
of
the
pandemic
stuff
things
that
we've
had
so
hopefully,
so
that's
that's
some
positive
news.
G
G
I
think
what
it's
going
to
do
is
open
up
the
the
use
of
those
dollars
of
where
you
can
spend
those
dollars.
If
you
note,
if
you
remember,
I
gave
you
that
information
that
had
it
kind
of
restricted
to
four
or
five
items,
pretty
restrictive.
They
are
looking
at
opening
it
up
so
that
it
can
be
used
for
other
things,
and
so
they
hope
to
have
that
out
two
weeks,
two
months
we
don't
know,
but
one
of
the
things
we
do
know
and
what
I
want
to
to
to
tell
you
is
we're
gonna.
G
H
G
Did
not
get
the
the
fire
grants.
Remember
the
grants
that
we
applied
for
for
the
fire
department
with
the
exhaust
system,
the
educational
trailer
and
then
the
positions
that
we
the
positions
that
we
had
for
the
fire
we
did.
We
were
not
awarded
those
grants.
We
received
information,
we're
not
awarded
those.
We
also
received
recently
a
cops
grant.
We
did
not
receive
that
grant
either.
G
So
those
were
our
big
ones.
Those
are
the
ones
we
were
waiting
on.
We
finally
got
word
of
those.
So
what
what
I
plan
to
do
in
this
workshop
that
we're
going
to
have
at
six
o'clock
on
the
15th
is
put
together
all
of
it
I'm
going
to
present.
I
want
to
show
you
everything
we've
applied
for
what
we've
received.
What
we
haven't
received,
because
you
recall
from
the
budget
we
had
those
items
in
our
budget.
G
Bring
those
back
show
you
what
we
have
not
received
show
you
some
of
we've
spent
some
of
the
rescue
money.
I
want
to
kind
of
give
you
a
total
rescue
monies
that
were
that
we
were
planning
to
receive
what
we
have
spent
of
those
so
far
and
what's
left
over,
hopefully
by
then
I'll,
have
some
more
direction
from
the
treasury.
To
tell
you
that,
hey
it's,
you
can
use
it
for
x,
y
and
z.
G
Now,
because
you
know
right
now,
it's
it's
restricted
but
bring
those
dollars
back
to
you
and
kind
of
when
I
want
the
workshop
to
kind
of
just
show
you
all
of
that.
What
we've
applied
for
what
we
haven't
received,
what
we're
still
applying
for
and
then
some
areas
of
kind
of
some
recommendations
or
some
areas
of
some
things
that
you
know
we
talked
about.
One
of
them
is
the
exhaust
system.
We
talked
about
the
exhaust
system,
we
said.
G
If
we
don't
get
the
money
we
have
reserves,
we
have
monies
that
we
want
to
use,
because
we
want
to
do
the
exhaust
systems
for
our
fire
stations,
so
bring
those
recommendations
back
with
you
and
show
you
how
we
plan
to
fund
those
items
that,
unfortunately,
we
were
not
able
to
receive
the
grant.
So
I
plan
to
do
that.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
do
is
because
we've
talked
about
this
as
well
kind
of
give
you
an
update
on
the.
G
G
And
again
I
will
tell
you:
I've
had
a
meeting
with
staff
and
meeting
with
staff
we're
putting
all
of
our
heads
together
based
on
all
of
this
data
and
all
this
information,
so
that
we
can
do
the
workshop
and
bring
you
all
the
you
know
all
of
our
recommendations
and
all
the
things
that
staff
feel
that
we
should
work
through.
So
I'm
going
to
bring
you
the
whole.
J
G
I
think
so,
commissioner,
because
it's
pretty
pretty
straightforward,
it's
I
mean
the
presentation's
gonna,
be
pretty
straightforward.
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
show
you
what
we've
received,
what
you've
already
earmarked
or
what
you've
already
allocated,
what
the
items
are
that
we
didn't
receive
and
then
some
recommendations
on
how
we
plan
to
fund
those
items
that
we
were
not
able
to
to
receive
those
those.
G
G
Well,
the
chief
might
be
able
to
speak.
I
know
we
heard
from
a
couple
of
that
said:
we're
in
pretty
good
shape
compared
to
the
ones
who
the
other
cities
and
people
that
applied
that
we
were.
Our
ratings
were
high,
theirs
were
low,
so
they
got
the
some
of
the
dollars
on
the
fire
side
police
side.
I'm
not
sure
exactly.
Why.
G
I
know
there's
a
list,
I'm
going
to
bring
you
that
too
of
who
was
awarded
the
cop
screen,
so
you
can
see
which
city's
got
those
miami
was
a
big
one,
big
cities,
miami.
I
think
fort
myers,
don't
quote
me,
but
I'm
going
to
bring
you
that
list.
So
you
I'm
going
to
show
you
who
got
it
and
you
know
so
that
you
know
where
those
grant
dollars
went.
J
G
I'm
going
to
bring
you
all
of
the
information
in
that
workshop
and
show
you.
These
are
the
positions.
This
is
what
we
have.
This
is
what
we
didn't
get.
This
is
what
we
did
fund
so
that
we
can
we'll
have
that
workshop
before
we
actually
take
any
action.
As
you
know,
we
can't
take
action
in
a
workshop,
but
we'll
have
all
that
informational
workshop
first
and
then
we
can
and
decide
how
to
to
move
forward
with
those
items.
G
Correct,
if
you
recall,
we
got
seven
million
and,
as
mayor
has
said
in
previous
meetings,
we
are
beating
them
up.
Trying
to
figure
out.
We
got
seven.
Okay
got
24
million;
we
we
where's
our
fair
share.
You
know
so
we're
still
fighting
that
again.
That's
fighting,
you
know
federal
the
federal
level,
and
so
that's
it's
a
tough
thing,
but
we
we're
we're.
G
I
mean
we're
squealing,
we're
hollering,
I'm
promising
that
so,
but
we
did,
commissioner,
we
did
receive
seven
million
okay,
we
received
three
and
a
half
and
then
we'll
receive
the
other
three
and
a
half
a
year
from.
I
think
it
was
august
or
september.
It's
one
year
after
you
received
the
first
allotment,
we
have
received
half,
so
we
are
holding
the
three
and
a
half
million,
as
we
talked
about
we've
put
that
in
a
separate
fund,
so
we
can
manage
those
dollars.
So
we
have
three
and
a
half
in
that
fund.
G
There
is,
as
you
know,
yawlers
road
is
a
really
bad
one
of
our
worst
roads,
and
so
that
will
that's
one
of
the
items
that
we
want
to
kind
of.
When
we
look
at
that
rescue
money
we
want
to
kind
of
you
know,
that's
an
item
that
we
know
we
need
to
take
care
of
that's
very
costly
item,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
areas
we're
looking
at
as
well.
G
Are
there
any
other,
costly
things
infrastructure
things
that
that
we
could
use
those
dollars
for
keep
in
mind
on
the
infrastructure
dollars
they're
one
time
so,
once
they're
gone,
they're
gone,
those?
Don't
those
there's
no
recurring,
I'm
on
those
dollars.
So
I
think
it's
careful
that
we
use
those
dollars
for
things
that
we
need
significant
infrastructure
or
improvements
that
you
need
for
those
dollars,
but
but.
D
G
G
That's
that's
early
in
the
early
stages,
so
I
know
we
we're
working
with
them
and
I
know
mayor's
working
really
really
hard
with
with
representative
demings
and
trying
to
make
sure
we
get
all
of
our
big
projects
in
so
that
we
can
get
hopefully
get
some
of
those
dollars.
You
know
so
we're.
As
you
know,
we're
we've
got
our
golden
gem
project,
big
project
out
there
big
dollars.
G
We've
got
some
street
big,
as
you
know,
koe,
apopka
and
all
kinds
of
big
projects
that
hopefully
we
can
get
some
of
those
infrastructure
dollars.
So
we're
we're
putting
all
that
together
as
well
and
I'm
gonna
show
you
some
other
grants
that
we're
applying
for
as
well.
So
we
have
a
good
grant
team
right.
Now,
that's
really
working
and
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
bring
you
all
of
them.
I'm
gonna
even
bring
you
the
ones
that
we've
applied
for
that
we're
waiting
to
hear
from.
J
A
A
Tomorrow,
night
6
p.m:
caitlin
nelson
park
they're
also
accepting
unwrapped
toy
donations
for
apopka
forever
wishes,
so
there'll
be
a
sled
there
to
drop
in
your
your
toys.
We've
got
a
lot
of
needs
here
in
apopka
saturday.
Is
our
arts
in
the
park
festival
and
just
talk
to
the
the
festival
director
to
yesterday
and
they
had
50
000
hits
on
a
facebook
sponsored
post
they
put
out
last
week,
so
they're
they're
really
excited
about.
You
know
what
the
potential
this
of
this
this
event
will
have.
A
You
know
as
a
long-term
event
that
will
be
saturday
december
4th
all
day.
You
know,
we've
got
the
list
of
all
the
schools
that
will
be
participating,
we'll
be
there
on
on
the
stage
at
the
amphitheater,
and
we
finish
out
that
night
with
our
regular
saturday
sounds
so
should
be
a
great
day.
Saturday
pick
up
crafts
and
gifts
for
christmas
and
listen
to
some
kids
perform
and
then
a
concert
there
at
the
end,
next
up
on
tuesday
december
7th
from
4
to
7
p.m.
A
A
Next
up.
The
following
saturday
is
our
sertoma
christmas
parade
saturday
december
11th
begins
at
10.
A.M,
goes
to
about
12
down
park,
avenue
and
last
but
not
least,
is
our
orlando
philharmonic
orchestra's
holiday
pops
concert
saturday
december
11th
from
5
to
7
p.m,
at
the
apopka
amphitheater.
So
a
lot
a
lot
of
events
going
on
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
so
should
be
something
there
for
everybody.
So
everybody
have
a
good
evening.