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From YouTube: Apopka Planning Commission Meeting April 11, 2023
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Apopka Planning Commission Meeting at City Hall on April 11, 2023 at 5:30 PM. To view the meeting agenda visit: https://www.apopka.gov/agenda
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A
A
A
During
the
meeting
we
will
have
a
opportunity
for
people
of
members
of
the
public
to
speak
on
any
matter.
That's
before
the
agenda
on
the
the
commission
on
the
agenda.
If
anyone
has
something
that
is
not
only
agenda
and
they
like
to
speak
publicly
about
that
at
this
meeting,
please
let
me
know
we
can
do
that
right
now,
seeing
no
one
will
move
to
our
first
agenda
item
comprehensive
plan,
small
scale,
future
land
use,
Amendment,
2604,
Martin,
Road
owners,
Catherine,
Rose,
Rudnick,
applicant
Catherine,
Rose,
Rudnick,.
B
B
The
proposed
future
land
use
of
Agriculture
is
consistent
with
the
Eastern
properties
in
the
vicinity,
with
the
same
designation,
the
applicant's
desires
to
remain
to
maintain
the
existing
rural
uses.
That
includes
one
single
family
dwelling
on
the
property.
This
application
is
also
being
processed
simultaneously
with
the
application
to
rezone
included
in
tonight's
meeting
agenda.
B
A
C
Mr,
chairman
I,
have
a
comment
I'd
like
to
make
okay
to
DET
applicant.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
working
to
protect
your
you
know
your
land
and
our
land
and
the
natural
beauty
we
have
in
this
area
and
I
want
to
wish
you
well
with
it
and
to
that
point,
I'm
fine,
with
making
the
motion.
If
anybody
else
doesn't
have
a
discussion.
C
I
move
to
find
the
proposed
change
in
future
land
use
from
future
land
use
in
progress
to
agriculture,
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
and
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
areas.
Recommending
approval
of
the
future
land
use.
Amendment.
Based
on
the
findings
and
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
and
Exhibits.
A
D
A
B
B
B
E
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Washington
do
I
have
a
second
second
by
commissioner
doomi,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries.
B
B
B
C
C
I'm
a
little
concerned
because
just
just
to
reiterate
for
everybody
here,
there's
been
two
things
that
we've
recommended
approval
on,
and
nobody
came
to
this
meeting
to
talk
about
it,
but
they
blew
up
at
the
city
council
to
talk
about
it
and
that's
when
the
airport,
where
I
didn't
mention
noise
a
couple
months
ago,
at
a
different
project
and
also
the
the
warehouse
one
of
General
Electric
Road,
where
they
the
people.
Nobody.
Nobody
was
here
to
talk
about:
John's,
Road,
yeah,
yep,
sorry,
but
John's
wrote.
D
C
B
Right
well,
notices
for
entitlements
like
future
land
use
and
Zoning
are
required
per
code
and
statutorily,
but
major
development
plans.
Community
meetings
sometimes
can
be
waived
per
code
by
the
community
development
director,
or
some
of
them
are
required
to
have
it.
So
it's
optional
from
the
chura
Vista.
They
did
go
through
a
rezoning.
If
that's
what
you're
talking
about
that's
the
multi-family
by
the
airport,
yeah
that
went
through
a
future
land
use
and
rezoning
Amendment
and
those
were
properly
notified.
C
They
they,
the
thing
is,
it
may
have
been
properly
notified,
but
they
didn't
either
feel
like
coming
to
talk
to
us,
or
they
didn't
know
that
they.
B
Should
in
2021
the
I
can
recall
that
the
rezoning
for
that
property
when
we
had
a
public
hearing
there
were
public
comments
during
those
city
council,
public
hearings,
but
obviously
the
rezoning
was
ultimately
approved.
D
Can
you
tell
us
how
the
notification
works
on
this
piece
of
property?
Was
there
any
notification
for.
B
This,
yes,
it's
within
300
feet
of
the
property
boundaries.
Those
property
owners
are
notified.
We
advertise
it
through
Apopka
Chief.
B
The
applicants
are
required
to
place
a
placard
notification
on
the
property
closest
to
the
right-of-way
and
they
are
required
to
mail
out
certified
return
receipts
to
Property
Owners
within
300
feet
of
the
property
boundaries.
Oh.
C
C
I,
just
I'm
not
comfortable
with
that
we
haven't
had
any
public
comments
from
people
nearby
and
you
know
if
they,
if
they
don't
want
to
come
talk,
and
they
don't
want
to.
Let
us
know
their
comments.
We
can't
force
it
out
of
them,
but.
C
Yeah
I,
just
I,
don't
see
the
big
picture
on
that,
because
we're
asking
us
to
move
this
to
transitional,
because
the
idea
right
when
I
was
looking
into
it,
was
to
have
more
dense
development,
which
the
16
houses
would
be
dense
on
a
five
acre
piece
of
property,
but
the
ones
the
North
and
the
ones
of
the
South
are
still
the
old
one.
And
if,
if
they
don't
request
change,
then
now
we've
got
a
discongruent
situation
here.
F
A
Sir,
give
us
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
H
Representing
the
landowner
this
person,
the
landowner,
has
been
in
their
family
for
a
long
time.
They
are,
you,
know,
high-end
home
builders
and
so
they're,
looking
to
develop
the
property
and
they're
going
to
be
building
the
homes
themselves
and
it's
going
to
be
a
nice
product.
H
We
have
designed
this
preliminary
subdivision
plan
to
meet
all
the
the
standards
with
the
maximum
block
length.
So
there's
not
a
it's,
not
16
homes
in
a
row.
Necessarily
there
is
a
a
yard
in
between
to
create
some
sort
of
a
you
know,
a
block
like
facade.
H
We
also
have
met
all
of
the
open
space
criteria
and
we've
provided
cross
access
at
the
far
end
of
our
property,
North
and
South.
So
when
those
properties
do
come,
you
know
eventually,
when
they
do
come
in
to
be
some
something
else
other
than
you
know,
vacant
pasture
land
they
will
be
able
to
connect
and
make
a
little
bit
of
a
grid
neighborhood
as
part
of
a
a
larger
subdivision,
and
we
are
dedicating
that
right
away
as
part
of
this
project
to
be
able
to
do
so.
H
H
So
the
property,
North
and
South
are
both
approximately
five
acres.
So
what
we
would
eventually
end
up
seeing
would
be
a
larger,
a
similar
to
a
similar
looking
subdivision,
north
and
south,
and
they
would
have
access
to
the
north
side
of
our
road,
but
they
would
end
up
having
to
put
their
own
access
to
their
property
as
well.
E
A
question
for
you:
I
live
right
down
the
street
from
where
you
want
to
put
this.
The
the
the
number
of
homes
on
this
piece
of
property,
16
homes,
and
you
have
a
I
believe,
a
retention
pond
on
a
Plymouth
rental
side
and
also
on
the
back
side
and
the
homes
are
in
between.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
H
E
So
this
development
is
adjacent
to
Oak
Ridge
phase.
Two
now
in
terms
of
the
number
of
homes
and
the
spacing
between
the
homes
would
be
similar.
It
might
be
unfair
question.
It
would
be
similar
to
Oak
Ridge
phase
two.
F
E
B
This
one
62
is
a
lot
typical
for
this
one.
H
Yeah,
the
density,
just
so
you
guys
are
aware,
is
2.94
dual
units
per
gross
acre,
which
is
kind
of
in
the
medium
range
of
the
the
two
to
five
be
required,
or
was
it
one
to
five
I'm?
Sorry,
sorry,
one
to
five.
H
Our
client
had
been
in
discussions
with
the
landowners
to
the
north
for
quite
some
time
about
you
know
making
this
a
larger
project,
but
my
understanding
is:
they
were
not
ready
to
do
so.
This
time,
I'm
not
aware
of
conversations
to
the
landowners
to
the
south
of
this
project.
C
So
I
heard
the
it
said
that
there
was
vacant
land
in
the
northern
South.
But
when
I
look
at
the
aerial
maps
it
looks
like
there
is
a
single
family
residential
to
the
north
and
then
also
two
on
the
or
maybe
one
on
the
south
of
the
with
the
barn
unit.
So.
H
A
I
I
C
J
C
If
we
had
the
property
owners
to
the
North
and
the
South
here
here
to
talk
to
us,
then
I
would
feel
comfortable
taking
their
considerations
and
then
making
a
recommendation
based
on
that.
But
without
anybody
else
here
to
talk
on
this
matter,
I
don't
know
if
we've
reached
out
to
them
and
I
mean
I
know
that
they
said
that
they
did
but
they're,
not
here
and
but
I
see
in
front
of
me.
My
recommendation
is
to
deny
based
on
that
thing.
C
G
C
Let
me
let
me
start
this
over
again,
but
I
want
to
say
one
last
thing
before
I
do
this,
and
this
one
does
cause
me
some
heartburn
on
this,
because
I
also
support
the
landowners
rights
to
develop
their
property
as
well,
and
that
that
that's
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
the
one
hand,
on
the
other
hand,
but
based
on
the
lack
of
feedback
from
the
neighbors
to
the
North
and
the
South
I'm
going
to
make
them
recommendation
to
deny.
So,
can
you
go
back
to
that
screenplay?
Thank
you.
I'll!
C
Do
it
this
time
fine
I
moved
to
find
the
proposed
change
in
future
land
use
from
residential,
very
low
Suburban
to
mixed-use
inconsistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
and
incompatible
with
the
character.
The
surrounding
area
is
recommending
denial
of
the
future
land
use
Amendment,
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
and
Exhibits
have.
G
A
E
Well,
if
I
might
add,
like
I,
said,
I
live
right
next
door
to
this,
and
the
notice
that
you
feel
was
properly
posted
as
per
state
law
is
quite
visible,
and
if
the
folks
who
live
in
these
adjacent
properties,
they
can't
say
they
did
not
see
the
sign.
E
E
A
A
A
C
I,
don't
know
for
basing
I
mean
I'm
telling
you
I'm
not
basing
it
based
on
those
two
Property
Owners
but
I'm
just
saying
that
would
make
it
better
if
they
were
here
opinion,
because
whenever
I
look
at
it,
I
see
a
single
family
property
house
to
the
north,
I
see
one
to
the
South
and
I
know
how
I
would
feel
if
I
was
in
either
one
of
those
homes
right.
Well,
they.
B
I'll,
if
I
may
I'll,
let
you
know
that
this
is
part
of
the
Kelly.
Park
interchange
form
base
code
area,
and
it's
not
just
that.
It's
actually
incorrect.
It's
compatible
with
our
comprehensive
plan,
because
it
is,
we
essentially
required
them
per
the
form-based
code
to
go
through
a
future
land
use
Amendment.
B
This
was
the
Wekiva
Vision
plan
in
the
comp
plan
that
was
adopted
in
93.,
it's
again
adopted
in
2017
under
Kelly
Park
interchange,
form-based
code,
that
the
city
had
a
vision
for
when
the
ramps
came
through
on
the
429
and
so
properties
on
the
North
and
South.
Adjacent
of
this
property
also
have
the
opportunity
to
fall
into
that
regulating
plan
of
the
Kelly
Park
Farm
based
code
and
apply
for
such
density.
If
they
want
to
develop,
it's
essentially
a
requirement
correct
to
do
anything
with
their
property
at
all.
B
B
B
Those
are
actually
smaller.
Lots
on
the
west,
there
and
staff
anticipates
that
west
of
Plymouth
Sorrento
Road
will
emulate
such
development
as
well,
based
on
the
kpi.
As
you
can
see
everything
that's
moving
parts
around
there.
It's
all
coming
into
the
city.
C
E
Might
add
you
know,
building
on
what
Genie
is
saying,
because
that's
my
neighborhood,
oh
and
I
live
in
Oak,
Ridge
phase,
one
so
I
knew
many
years
ago,
when
I
moved
there
that
all
that
was
one
transition,
and
it
is
so
so
even
the
properties
north
of
Plymouth
Oak,
Ridge
phase,
one
I,
see
the
same.
Similar
things
happening
very
easily.
Yes,
yes,
but.
A
E
A
Give
me
my
position
on
it,
two
things
and
and
I'm
not
being
patronizing,
but
you
can't
assume
to
speak
for
people
that
don't
show
up
that
we're
notified
by
law.
They
were
notified,
you
don't
know
their
opinions,
so
basing
it
on
that
I
think
it's
a
bit
of
a
stretch.
The
secondary
thing
I
would
say
about
that
is
this
is
and-
and
what
you
had
touched
on,
commissioner,
do
me
is
that
people
come
to
the
council
meeting.
Well,
people
think
the
Planning
and
Zoning
is
like
a
DRC.
It's
like
a
little.
A
C
A
Council
meal,
and
inevitably
in
a
case
like
that,
that's
the
final
decision,
not
this
one,
that's
right!
So
I
I,
don't
think
we
can
assume
to
speak
for
those
people
and,
if
you're
fundamentally
against
it
because
of
the
plan
or
design.
But
I
wouldn't
say
that
it
would
be
a
fair
thing
to
do
to
say
well,
I'm,
assuming
these
people
don't
like
it,
because
I
wouldn't
like
it
I
think
we
have
to
be
fair
to
the
applicant
and
look
at
the
area
and
make
a
decision
based
on
that.
Well,.
D
We
attempted
to
make
the
to
to
contact
them
and
we
failed
well,
no
I'm
talking
about
I
know,
but
the
developer
didn't
talk
to
them.
Who
does
the
mail
out
the
city
or
the
applicant.
D
C
C
D
I
think
it's
40
miles
an
hour,
speed
limit
on
that
road
and
it's
a
small
sign.
Yeah.
E
E
E
E
I
understand
that
I
understand
it,
but
if
the
city
of
or
the
developers
send
a
notice
to
these
people
within
300
feet
of
the
boundaries,
is
that
correct
Gene?
Yes,
sir
right
so,
are
you
saying
that
the
developer
should
actually
get
on
the
telephone
and
call
these
people.
D
A
J
A
J
A
D
A
A
You
know
four
dwelling
units
so
I
mean
I,
understand
that,
but
we
can't
I,
don't
think
and
I
only
use
the
word
whole
passage,
but
we
can't
put
it
upon
the
applicant
here
to
prove
that
those
people
are
okay
with
it.
Just
in
case
somebody
gets
upset
and
comes
to
a
commission
meeting
and
complains
about
it.
I
think
more
I
just
is,
is
exactly
as
the
motion
reads.
Is
this
compatible
with
the
area?
Does
it
make
sense
and
not
you
know
again.
D
G
A
Those
people
have
a
chance
to
speak
right.
Exactly
my
point
is:
is
that
and
and
maybe
I'm
not
clear,
if
your
reason
for
asking
for
a
denial
is
because
they
the
notification
issue,
then
that's
one
matter,
but
I
think
that
R
and
again,
if
you
read
the
recommendation
for
approval,
it's
does
this
fit
the
character
of
the
area,
blah
blah
blah
blah
I'm.
Not
not.
Is
that
something?
Procedurally,
we
don't
like
because
we
don't
know
the
people
around
it
approved
or.
D
Disciplined
no
I
would
I
just
had
a
problem.
They
didn't
have
contact
with
the
property
owner
to
the
South.
The
big
problem
was,
it
looks
out
of
place.
You
have
Anchorage
on
the
North
the
south
side,
then
you've
got
a
long
row
of
houses.
It
just
doesn't
look
right.
Just
looks
out
of
place,
I
agree,
that's
right!
That's.
D
C
A
A
C
L
C
A
B
For
the
record
Gene
Sanchez
with
the
Community
Development
Department,
this
is
a
request
to
recommend
approval
of
the
change
of
Zoning
for
Plymouth
Toronto
Road
residential
from
tree
Trent,
T
transitional
to
kpi,
Mu,
Kelly,
Park,
interchange,
form-based
code
with
the
assignment
of
neighborhood
overlay
district
and
its
master
plan.
This
is
the
rezoning
companion
for
that
previous
agenda.
B
The
master
plan
depicts
16
single-family
residential
units,
a
toddler
pocket
park
and
a
Mad
Thai
storm
water,
Pond
and
5.56
acres
of
land
area.
The
applicant
is
also
dedicating
a
30-foot
wide
right
of
way
along
the
Project's
Frontage
on
Plymouth
Sorrento
Road
for
future
right-of-way
widening
the
proposed
access
point
for
this
project
is
on
Plymouth
Sorrento
Road.
The
DRC
recommends
approval.
The
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
change
of
zoning
from
kpi,
mu
assignment
of
neighborhood
overlay
district
and
the
master
plan
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
in
the
staff
report.
L
L
However,
the
only
difference
in
this
case
is
that
this
is
a
rezoning,
so
this
is
actually
quasi-judicial
in
nature,
so
the
decision
and
recommendations
have
to
be
based
on
the
competent
substantial
evidence.
That's
presented
forward,
unlike
a
land
use
Amendment,
which
is
a
legislative
matter,
and
therefore
that
standard
is
only
whether
it's
a
reasonable
determination.
So
there's
two
standards
of
review,
because
there's
two
separate
applications
and
two
separate
requests.
C
Emotion,
can
we
get
the
the
applicant
speak
first
yeah.
G
H
Thank
you
so
I'd
like
to
request.
You
reconsider
your
your
two
no
votes
now
this
isn't
the
part
of
the
city
that
is
slotted
for
this
future
growth,
and
we
understand
with
some
applicants,
can
come
in
and
buy
10
pieces
of
property
and
build
these
big
subdivisions
with
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
homes.
However,
you
know
this
client
is
a
home
builder.
This
has
been
in
his
family
for
a
long
time
and
he
wants
to
build
nice
homes.
It's
what
he
does.
It's,
not
an
out
of
town
developer.
H
He
you
know
he
lives
in
the
city.
He
wants
to
make
a
nice
product
and
we've
spoken
on
this.
We've
been
working
on
this.
For
you
know,
over
a
year
now,
trying
to
you
know,
work
out
the
little
kinks
here
and
there
and
he
wants
to
really
build
a
nice
product,
and
so
you
know
again
I
kind
of
want
to
formally
request
you
reconsider
and
I
would
just
like
to
end
on
the
fact
that
if
anything's
going
to
happen
here,
it
will
be
forced
to
enter
into
this
type
of
development.
H
C
H
Gonna
happen
anytime
soon,
so
this
product
is
as
spread
out
and
nice
as
we
can
get
with
the
16
lots,
makes
it
an
economically
viable
project
and
if
anything's
going
to
happen
here,
it's
going
to
look
very
similar
to
this,
based
on
what
what
we've
done
up
to
this
point,
north
and
south
of
us,
whether
it
happens
today,
tomorrow
or
10
years
from
now,
you
know
will
likely
look
similar
to
this
once
it
you
know,
comes
to
you
before
you
go.
F
C
E
L
I've
never
had
just
a
vote
on
I
mean
you
make
your
motion
with
your
whatever
your
prerogative
is,
if
your
prerogative
is
we're
not
going
to
recommend
city
council
is
going
to
come
down
and
ask
staff,
why
was
there
no
recommendation.
L
A
C
C
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
it
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
they're
very
minimal
to
do
with
the
the
landowners
of
the
North
and
the
South
that
we
haven't
talked
to,
and
we
can't
presume
to
know
what
they
think
one
way
or
the
other
yeah
correct.
But
when
you
look
at
it
again,
it's
just
it's
almost
like
Hopscotch
development
and
I
know
that's
coming
anyways
it's
coming
anyways,
but.
C
We
don't
we
don't
we
don't
have
to
recommend
approval,
I
mean
just
because
it's
going
to
happen,
you
know,
I
can
stand
up
and
say
I,
don't
like
it
and
vote.
No,
you
know
and
that's
what
I
did.
It
doesn't
mean
they're.
Just
because
it's
going
to
happen
anyways
we
have
to
say:
oh
okay,
we're
just
going
to
go
vote
Yes
I'm
not
going
to
do
that.
Well,.
C
G
E
As
is
written
here,
right,
okay,
all
right,
a
big
emotion
to
find
and
propose
Plymouth
Sorrento,
Road,
residential
change
of
zoning
and
master
plan
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
and
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
areas.
Recommending
approval
of
the
proposed
changes
only
from
T
transitional
to
kpi,
Mu,
Calais,
Park,
interchange,
mixed
use,
assignment
of
neighborhood
overlay
district
and
the
master
plan.
A
C
A
A
This
is
a
variance,
allow
a
minimum
building
set
back
front
or
side
street
of
94
feet
in
lieu
of
20
feet
from
Sadler
Road
and
a
maximum
building
setback
of
203
feet
in
lieu
of
20
feet
from
golden
gem:
Road
owners,
Cadence
partner,
LLC
applicant
skating
partner,
LLC,
Carol,
Todd
Watson
and
Sam
ciboli
PE
missing.
Oh,
this
is
a
quasi-judicial.
You
need
to
ask
anybody
had
exporte
communication
on
this
matter.
No,
sir,
the
Sanchez.
B
B
M
Good
afternoon
Mr,
chairman
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Sam
sabali
I'm
with
Florida
Engineering
Group.
My
address
is
5127
South,
Orange,
Avenue,
Orlando,
Florida
I,
don't
have
a
formal
presentation.
We
did
provide
the
justification
for
the
variants
in
our
submittal
and
the
key
element
here
is:
we
have
large
industrial
buildings
which
require
parking
on
one
side
and
a
loading
dock
on
the
other
side.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
development
than
other
developments.
M
So,
typically,
when
you
are
requiring
the
buildings
to
be
close
to
the
street,
you
can
put
let's
say
the
parking
in
the
back,
but
in
this
case
we
have
the
loading
docks
which
are
in
the
back.
So
it's
difficult
to
pull.
Well,
it's
impossible
to
pull
the
buildings
to
the
front
and
then
have
the
parking
in
the
back.
So
that's
why
we
need
the
variance
with
that.
I
will
be
glad
to
address
any
questions
which
you
may
have.
M
Yes,
the
code
requires
in
this
instance,
your
code
requires
for
the
kpi
that
the
buildings
be
adjacent
to
the
road
20
feet
maximum
and
which
would
not
work
for
a
light
industrial
type
development
so
that
that's
the
situation
we
have
and
I
think
the
kpi
and
discussion
with
staff
and
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
and
that
you
know
it
may
not
have
envisioned
the
fact
that
you
know
for
these
types
of
buildings
you
you
can't
meet
that
standard.
So
that's
why
you
know
I
believe
they
they're
agreeable
to
the
variance.
M
E
This
affect
the
square
footage
of
your
project,
since
you
are
asking
for
a
change
in
the
setbacks,
seems
like
it's
going
to
make
your
building
smaller.
Is
it
correct.
M
If
conceivably,
if
we
could
put
the
buildings
closer
to
the
street,
that
gives
us
more
room,
but
we
can't
so
really
it's
not
a
situation
where
we
are
gaining
square
footage
or
losing
square
footage.
Physically
We
cannot
put
them
close
to
the
street
I'm.
Sorry.
B
Commissioner,
what
what
planning
has
has
discussed
with
the
applicant
is
that
if
they
go
through
this
site
design,
the
the
loading
docs
would
be
kind
of
shielded.
From
what's
going
to
be,
is
that
Sadler
right
on
the
North
Sadler
Road?
B
We
otherwise
I
think
they
would
have
to
be
forced
to
somehow
make
loading
docks
visible
from
either
golden
gen,
gem
or
Sadler
Road,
and
we
would
prefer
that
we'd
rather
have
a
bigger
setback.
The
the
Kelly
Park
allows
than
having
loading
docks
visible,
because
that's
not
really
the
vision
or
intent
of
Kelly
Park,
interchange,
Gene.
B
A
B
B
So
this
would
be
Sadler
Road
right
here
that
they
would
construct-
and
this
is
golden
gem
right
here-
and
this
is
State
Road
429
on
the
east.
B
I
E
Will
there
be
trap
truck
traffic
on
Saturday
going
into
your
project.
F
M
No
that'll,
be
you
know
it's
an
industrial
park,
so
there
will
be.
You
know,
a
significant
amount
of
truck
traffic,
but
it
is
part
of
the
you
know
that
there
are
some
roadway
agreements
being
contemplated,
and
you
know
the
traffic
studies.
You
know
incorporate
what
we
are
proposing
and
that
will
be
some
roadway
improvements
and
infrastructure
improvements
contemplated
as
a
part
of
the
overall
Kelly
Park
development.
M
So
there
are
some
roadway
improvements
relative
to
Sadler
and
Effie
and
other
roadway
improvements
which
are
currently
we're,
not
the
master
developer.
The
master
developer
is
coordinating
that
with
your
staff
and
as
part
of
the
overall
development
so
and
those
take
into
consideration
the
the
build
out,
including
this
parcel.
D
M
M
Think,
on
the
one
side,
it's
94
feet.
So
if
you
look
at
the
section
which
is
on
Sadler,
your
code
requires
a
screen
wall.
So
we
have
a
screen
wall.
It
requires
Landscaping
in
the
front
of
the
wall
along
the
roadway.
M
It
requires
Landscaping
behind
the
wall,
so
we're
meeting
that
landscape
standard
along
the
street.
And
after
that
we
have
our
parking
and
then
between
the
parking
and
the
building.
We
have
a
sidewalk
and
Landscaping.
So
basically,
that's
the
minimum
distance.
We
need
to
be
able
to
fit
the
Landscaping,
the
parking
and
the
sidewalks,
so
we
we
have
it
as
close
as
we
can
to
be
able
to
meet
the
parking
requirements
and
then
allow
the
loading
docks
to
be
on
the
back
side
of
the
buildings.
D
M
Interesting
yeah
for
these
types
of
buildings,
you
know
most
most
similar
projects
would
have
them.
You
know
you
don't
have
them
right
on
the
street,
because
you
have
this
big
structures
and
the
rest
the
rest
of
the
development.
You
know
they
have
it
more
in
keeping
with
the
kpi
standards,
but
because
of
the
nature
of
this
development
it
doesn't
fit
within
those
standards.
A
C
Okay,
now
I
was
just
going
to
say:
I
didn't
have
any
questions
of
the
applicant,
because
whenever
I
looked
at
the
nine
variance
findings,
I
thought
they
were
well
written
and
comprehensive.
The
answers
of
that,
especially
compared
to
some
of
the
other
ones,
we've
seen
so
I
I,
certainly
have
no
issues
with
supporting
this
variance.
E
E
E
A
hurry
well.
C
I,
don't
see
why
yeah
I
don't
see
one
written
up
here,
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
exhibited
here
we
will
I
will
move
to
approve
this
variants.
A
A
Special
exemption
allow
multi-family
uses
within
the
interchange,
overlaid,
District
owners,
Kelly,
Park,
VB
development,
a
LLC
applicants,
Lounge
Law
Firm
care
of
territidro,
the
southwest
corner
of
Kelly
Park
Road
and
State
Road
429.
Ms
Sanchez.
B
Jean
Sanchez
with
the
Community
Development
Department.
This
is
a
request
to
Grant
a
special
exception
to
allow
multi-family
users
within
the
interchange,
overlay,
District
of
the
Kelly
Park
form-based
code
area
for
wildlife
development.
The
property
is
located
on
the
southwest
corner
of
Kelly
Park
Road
and
State
Road
429.
It's
approximately
68.77,
Acres
apologies
for
the
misprint
and
your
staff
reports.
It
says
two
acres,
which
is
not
incorrect.
B
B
The
approved
master
plan
indicates
that
the
subject
property
that
is
outlined
here
are
within
the
interchange,
overlay,
District
of
Kelly
Park.
According
to
the
code,
all
residential
uses
require
special
exception
use
permit,
and
so,
in
order
to
satisfy
this
code
standard
and
to
move
forward,
the
applicant
is
requesting
Planning
Commission
to
Grant
special
exception,
use
permit
to
allow
multi-family
users
within
the
interchange,
District
overlay.
B
The
DRC
recommends
approval.
The
recommended
motion
is
to
approve
the
special
exception
to
allow
multi-family
uses
within
the
interchange,
overlay,
District
of
the
Kelly
Park
and
change
form-based
code
area,
subject
to
the
exhibits
and
findings
of
the
staff
report.
Staff
and
applicants
are
available
for
questions.
J
Good
evening,
Tara
tedro
Lounge
law,
two
and
five
north
Yola
drive
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
This
shows
you
the
project.
It
was
formerly
called
kelly,
Parks
Crossing.
So
when
we
had
a
development
agreement
approved
back
in
October,
that
was
the
project
name.
It's
been
renamed
now
to
Wild
Oaks,
it
is
68.77
Acres.
We
have
a
couple
applications
pending.
We
did
properly
notice
it
for
68.77
Acres.
It
was
in
the
application
for
that
as
well.
We
happen
to
also
have
a
2.5
acre
application
out
there.
J
That's
going
to
be
coming
before
you
so
I
think
that's
how
we
got
that
a
little
flip-flopped,
but
all
the
notices
went
out
and
the
signs
were
posted
when
it
comes
to
the
posting
of
signs.
Just
so
everybody
knows
we
actually
ended
up
posting
more
signs
than
were
necessary.
Your
staff
had
some
extra
signs,
so
we
both
posted
them
on
the
Frontage
of
the
properties
in
question
which
are
at
golden
gem.
J
J
We
didn't
have
anything
but
just
questions
of
what
we
were
doing
and
what
we
were
proposing,
and
so
during
that
community
meeting
we
actually
comprehensively
spoke,
and
it
was
a
two-hour
time
block
about
everything
that
we
were
doing,
not
just
with
this
special
exception,
but
the
project
in
its
entirety,
since
it's
a
very
large
scale,
project,
250
plus
acres.
Originally,
we
answered
all
the
questions
as
to
where
we
were
with
our
design.
J
What
we
had
already
gotten
approved
what
types
of
changes
might
be
coming
in
the
future,
so
we
discussed
a
lot
more
than
just
a
special
exception
with
them,
so
that
everybody
had
a
full
understanding
of
exactly
what
we
were
doing
and
what
we
were
going
to
be
asking
the
staff
for
not
just
tonight
before
you,
but
also
some
other
pending
applications.
That
would
be
coming
before
you
all
in
the
future.
J
This
shows
you,
the
future
land
use
maps,
so
we
in
the
in
the
zoning,
so
we
already
have
in
place
in
this
area
the
mixed
use
of
zoning,
and
we
have
the
kpi
MU
zoning
in
place,
so
the
mixed
use
future
land
use
the
zoning's
already
in
place
again.
This
was
all
already
established
back
in
October
when
we
had
the
rezoning
approved
concurrent
with
the
development
agreement
that
Gene
had
referenced
under
your
comprehensive
plan.
J
The
primary
intent
of
the
mixed
juice
future
land
use
is
to
allow
a
mixture
exactly
as
it
sounds,
so
it
contemplates
and
requires
by
policy
that
there
is
supposed
to
be
a
mix
of
different
things,
including
residential
uses,
on
this
specific
property
outline
some
of
those
mixtures
of
uses.
But
you
get
more
granular
when
you
get
down
to
the
mukpi
portion
of
your
form-based
code,
which
dictates
those
very
specific
design
and
development
standards,
depending
on
the
district.
You
are
in
under
the
Kelly
Park
plan,
so
we
are
in
The
Interchange
District.
J
So
your
regulating
plan
has
five
character
zones.
You
can
see
them
in
color
on
that
map,
the
one
that
we
are
in
closest
to
The
Interchange
is
The
Interchange
district,
and
so
that
is
intended
to
accommodate
uses
needed
near
a
highway,
allows
for
high
density
residential
uses
and
then
commercial
uses
that
would
satisfy
folks
coming
right
off
the
429
gas
stations
drive
through
facility
things
like
that
there
are
character,
District
standards
as
well,
and
what
you
have
to
accommodate
in
terms
of
interchange
and
the
types
of
minimum
maximum
acreages
density
intensity
and
open
space.
J
This
is
the
approved
master
plan
back
from
10
19
22.
So
you
can
see
that
we
already
had
a
plan
fully
approved
by
the
city
council.
This
was
attached
to
a
development
agreement
that
was
negotiated
and
went
through
the
full
public
hearing
process.
We
didn't
have
any
large-scale
opposition,
no
one
coming
out
to
say
that
this
was
unexpected.
I
mean
this
has
been
a
long
time
in
the
making
this
plan
and
this
piece
of
property
specifically.
J
J
In
your
code,
though
it
says,
any
residential
use
in
interchange
requires
a
special
exception
which
is
sort
of
odd
because
we
are
mandated
to
have
under
this
plan
a
minimum
amount
of
residential,
but
you
can't
have
any
residential
unless
we
come
and
get
a
special
exception,
and
when
I
asked
your
staff,
it
was
more
just
you
know,
that's
well
that's
what
the
code
says,
and
so
we're
happy
to
be
here
to
ask
for
that.
We
are
mandated
to
provide
it
under
an
already
approved
development
agreement.
J
But
if
you
look
at
code,
it's
it's
even
a
little
bit
more
skewy,
because
no
residential
uses
are
permitted
other
in
this
District
other
than
Community
residential
homes,
multi-family
nursing
homes
and
guest
Suites.
But
your
comp
plan
says
that
this
is
for
high
density,
residential
and
just
so
everybody
knows,
the
the
reference
under
your
city
code
to
what
community
residential
homes
are
is
under
chapter
419
of
Florida
Statutes
Community
residential
homes
are
homes
with
the
clientele
regulated
by
the
department
of
elderly
Affairs.
J
Agency
for
persons
with
disabilities,
Department
of
Children
and
Families
or
Department
of
Juvenile
Justice,
and
it
also
says
you
can't
put
those
homes
within
a
thousand
or
1200
feet
of
each
other.
So
I
don't
even
know
how
practically
we
could
ever
satisfy
a
residential
requirement
in
this
district
with
anything
but
multi-family,
because
we
certainly
can't
put
100
Juvenile
Justice
homes
on
this
piece
of
property,
and
we
can't
put
150
nursing
homes
on
this
property.
J
So
this
is
just
looking
only
at
The.
Interchange
District
in
question
shows
you
some
of
the
multi-family
Parcels,
the
amenitized
storm
water
management,
Pond
large,
open
space
area
that
we
have
some
additional
menetized
storm
water
management
ponds
between
the
commercial
parcels
and
the
multi-family.
The
Nic
means
not
included.
So
that's
that's
not
part
of
our
project,
and
so
we
have
some
Frontage
both
on
Kelly
Park,
as
well
as
on
golden
gem.
So
we've
got
a
significant
amount
of
of
already
work.
That's
gone
into
this
project.
J
I
mean
we've
spent
the
better
part
of
one
year
on
weekly
phone
calls
coming
up
with
exactly
the
types
of
designs
that
we
want
in
working
with
your
staff,
and
that's
why
we
have
some
inspirational
images
that
we
wanted
to
show
you
so
so
multi-family
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
there
and
again.
These
are
going
to
be
well
monetized,
complementary
to
the
surrounding
area
and
the
type
of
market
rate
multi-family.
J
Some
other
conceptual
images
that
we've
shown
before
for
what
our
Village
Center,
our
mixed
juice
components,
are
going
to
look
like.
We've
brought
together
some
of
the
top
design
teams
in
the
state
and
in
the
country
to
help
us
look
at
successful
projects
in
other
parts
of
the
country
that
have
mixed
use
and
what
made
them
vibrant
and
what
made
them
Thrive
and
so
successful,
and
we've
taken
those
and
we've
overlaid
them
with
the
Kelly
Park
code
and
said
help
us
bring
to
life.
J
The
vision
of
what
Kelly
Park
is
supposed
to
look
like,
and
so
we've
come
up
with
some
great
Concepts
that
we've
seen
in
other
areas,
things
that
we
would
like
to
try
to
bring
to
our
project
so
just
showing
you
some
images
that
we've
shown
before
in
the
past
to
city
council
wanted
to
make
sure
we
showed
those
here
tonight
in
case.
Anybody
in
the
audience
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
see
some
of
what
we
had
contemplated
on
this
property.
J
So
we
are
certainly
excited
for
this
project.
We
would
request
approval
of
the
special
exceptions,
because
it's
the
only
residential
we
could
really
build
in
order
to
comply
with
the
development
agreement.
That's
already
been
approved
and
those
density
minimum
requirements
that
we
have
to
have
on
our
property
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
D
J
We
have
right
now
pending
two
separate
agreements
that
we're
working
through.
Thankfully,
with
your
staff
Pam
has
been
great
in
helping
us
get
through
these
and
your
contracted
outside
City
attorney.
One
is
a
pioneering
agreement
and
that's
an
agreement
between
my
client
and
other
develop
two
other
developers
in
this
area,
and
that
is
going
to
be
for
comprehensive
pre-funding
and
roadway
improvements
both
to
Kelly
Park,
as
well
as
to
golden
gem.
So
we
are
negotiating
that
these
private
developers
are
going
to
put
up
all
of
the
money
early
into
an
account.
J
That's
going
to
get
escrowed
to
assure
that
all
of
the
money
is
going
to
be
there
for
the
roadway
widenings
that
need
to
happen
that
have
been
contemplated
in
some
of
these
intersection
studies
that
your
city
has
already
done,
and
so
that's
going
to
give
assurances
that
say
all
of
us
fall
all
out
of
the
picture.
Well,
you
have
the
money
there
and
the
city
could
step
in
and
do
the
work
themselves,
but
the
developers
will
probably
be
able
to
get
it
done
quicker,
utilizing
private
resources
to
do
that
and
putting
that
money
up
early.
J
So
that's
one
agreement.
The
second
is
that
we
have
a
transportation
development
agreement
that
just
my
client
is
going
to
be
bringing
back
that
Transportation
agreement
is
specific
to
the
extensions
of
Effie
and
Sadler
Road
internal
to
our
property.
Those
are
roadway
extensions
that
have
been
contemplated
as
well
by
your
city
for
some
Regional
relief,
better
planning
for
transportation,
long
term,
and
that
is
just
my
client
providing
that
Transportation
agreement.
J
So
there's
two
separate
agreements
that
are
going
to
comprehensively
deal
with
widening
Kelly
Park,
as
well
as
improving
golden
gem,
dedicating
sufficient
right-of-way
in
order
to
make
those
improvements
happen,
putting
the
money
up
for
it
to
happen.
So
those
will
be
coming
back
on
an
agenda
in
the
future
for
the
for
the
city
council
to
ultimately
approve.
J
D
D
N
N
K
Hi
Kevin
Roberson
with
Kimberly
horn,
445,
24th,
Street,
Vero,
Beach
Florida,
what's
shown
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
here
is
Sadler.
This
is
the
proposed
extension
of
Sadler,
what's
shown
at
the
bottom.
J
F
G
K
F
K
L
F
A
C
All
right,
yeah,
say
I,
don't
I
thought
the
presentation
was
well
done
and
I
don't
really
see
any
issues
here
and
I
always
appreciate
the
the
applicants
trying
to
work
with
us
on
the
roadway
improvements
and
especially,
is
exciting
that
escrow
fund
that's
going
to
allow
that.
We
make
sure
that
we
move
forward
on
these
roadway
improvements,
regardless
of
what
happens
with
the
rest
of
the
project.
So
I'm
certainly
find
Mr
Washington.
If
you
wanted
to
make
the
motion
I'd
be
happy
to
Second
it
or
I
could
do
the
motion.
E
C
A
B
Jean
Sanchez
with
the
Community
Development
Department.
This
is
a
request
to
recommend
approval
of
the
Miller's
Ale
House
major
development
plan.
The
subject
property
is
located
at
505
and
555
East
Main
Street
on
the
northeast
corner
of
McGee
Avenue
and
us-441.
It's
approximately
2.27
acres
in
size.
B
The
major
development
plan
proposes
a
restaurant
use
with
7202
square
feet
of
area
and
the
mud,
mixed-use,
downtown
zoning
district
and
as
part
of
the
executed
development
agreement
for
City
Center,
of
which
this
property
is
part
of
project,
is
not
subject
to
city
council
approval
or
the
mdp
process.
However,
the
applicant
has
chosen
to
undergo
this
mdp
public
hearing
process
to
introduce
the
intent
of
restaurant
use
on
the
subject
properties
and
it's
based
on
public
interest.
B
D
I
have
a
not
a
question,
but
a
comment
I
like
how
they
designed
the
parking
lot
and
appears
the
ADA
Compliant
they've
done
a
very
good
job.
One
of
the
few
parking
lots
in
the
city
of
talk
with
this
ADA
Compliant.
C
Mr
chairman,
this
is
a
great
I'll
call
it
a
late
start
for
the
city
center
and
I'm
excited
for
the
opportunity
to
to
do
the
motion
on
this
one.
If
anybody
else
has
a
discussion.
F
B
B
This
is
a
portion
of
the
previously
approved
Crossroads
at
Kelly,
Park
development
and
it's
within
the
Kelly
Park
interchange,
form-based
code
area.
Specifically,
this
portion
is
within
the
transition
overlay
District
the
crossroads
at
Kelly,
Park,
fd1,
fd3
tracks.
Major
development
plan
proposes
the
development
of
300
multi-family
units,
the
crossroads
at
Kelly
Park
development,
for
which
this
master
plan
was
approved
by
City
Council
on
November
2
encompasses
a
mixture
of
multi-family
units
that
this
includes
single-family
detached
units
and
Commercial
uses.
This
mdp
specifically
focuses
on
the
on
one
of
the
multi-family
portions
of
that
development.
B
The
applicant
is
required
and
providing
552
parking
spaces
that
include
surface
tandem,
garages
on
street
and
12
accessible
spaces.
Seven
four
story-
apartment
buildings
are
defected,
are
depicted
on
the
proposed
mdp.
The
applicant
also
includes
an
Open
Space
Program
of
2.4
acres
in
size
that
consists
of
a
park
dog
park.
B
D
J
G
G
C
L
If
I
can
advise
the
commission,
because
this
has
been
a
question-
that's
been
asked
based
on
the
litigation
that
the
city
has
been
had,
has
undertaken
and
there's
a
resolution
asking
that
line
of
questions
is
actually
improper
under
the
Fair
Housing
Act
and
the
state
Housing
Act.
You
cannot
that
this
no
land
use
or
development
approvals
can
be
based
on
the
source
of
funding
of
a
project.
D
D
L
There's
there
I'm
just
advising
based
on
the
statute,
because
a
decision
cannot
be
based
on
the
source
of
funding.
Asking
that
there's
any
some
types
of
government
funding
or
government
subsidy
May
is
is
an
improper
line
of
questioning.
That's
similar.
To
asking
whether
or
not
this
is
I
mean
it
falls
along
the
lines
of
asking
improper
questions
regarding
to
race,
religion,
family
status,
I'm,
just
advising
the
staff
based
on
the
Florida
Statutes
and
the
fact
that
we
have
had
litigation
and
a
judgment
held
against
us
for
that.
D
D
I
just
asked
I
just
asked
a
question
and
as
public
record
I'm
sure
whether
it's
government
funded
or
not,
our
government
loan
guarantees
our
government
loans
involved.
Is
it
not
public
information.
L
Public
information
but
you're
raising
the
issue
as
a
question
tied
to
a
decision
relating
to
development
on
the
part
of
the
city.
So
it's
a
line
of
questioning
that
can
potentially
put
that
at
issue.
If,
if
something
were
to
go
sideways,
that's
why
I'm
advising
that
that
line
of
questioning
is
not
a
proper
line
of
questioning
pursuant
to
the
state
statute,
I.
A
A
Somebody
reads
that
in
the
record
and
says
well,
commissioner,
asked
that
question
then
voted
against
it.
Now
the
onus
is
on
you
to
defend
yourself
to
do
it,
but
it's
not
really
something
that,
from
a
legal
standpoint,
I
understand
what
he's
saying
it's
like.
If
you're
you're,
renting
a
house
somebody
you
go,
what
religion
are
you
you're
in
big
trouble.
D
A
D
E
L
A
A
A
C
B
C
Where
we
had
the
person
from
the
that
they
were
buying
the
property
to
the
South
air,
but
I
don't
want
that
to
be
a
consideration
in
this.
We
don't
want
to
go
down
that
road
again
strike
that
question.
E
E
Chairman
I
make
a
recommendation
to
recommend
approval
of
the
crossroads
at
Kelly
Park
future
development
tracks,
fd-1
and
fd-major
development
plan.
Subject
to
the
findings
in
the
staff
report.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
Washington
and
motion
by
commissioner
Watson.
Do
I
have
a
second
second
by
commissioner
doomey,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
motion
carriers,
all
right;
same
development,
apparently
number
three
major
development
plan:
Crossroads
at
Kelly,
Park
phase,
three
multi-family
tracked:
mf-t21
owners,
Gavin,
Land,
Services,
LLC,
hard
skip;
LLC,
Kelly,
Parkland
investors,
LLC
applicants,
pullus
and
Bennett;
LLC
care,
marketing,
style,
PE,
location,
north
of
Kelly,
Park,
Road
and
East
of
Round
Lake,
Road
and
West
of
Effie
Drive,
Miss
Sanchez.
B
B
The
major
development
plan
proposes
the
development
of
324
multi-family
units.
The
the
crossroads
at
Kelly
Park
development,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
was
approved
by
City
Council
on
North
on
November,
2nd
2022.,
and
this
is
part
of
that
mixture
of
multi-family
uses,
single-family
and
Commercial
uses.
The
applicant
is
required
597
parking
spaces
and
providing
598
spaces
that
include
surface
Garage
on
street
and
12
accessible
spaces.
B
B
B
Architectural
renderings
meet
the
city's
development
design
guidelines
and
the
design
intent
of
the
Kelly
Park
interchange,
form-based
code.
The
DRC
recommends
approval.
The
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
major
development
plan
subject
to
the
findings
of
the
staff
report,
staff
and
applicants
are
available
for
questions.
Thank.
H
E
A
A
F
B
Chairman
Gene
Sanchez
with
the
Community
Development
Department.
This
item
was
mistaken,
listed
as
Kelly
Park,
multi-family
Platt.
However,
the
items
in
your
staff
reports
correct
the
supply
is
actually
for
the
Rock
Springs
commercial
plan.
It's
located
at
1506,
Rock,
Springs
Road,
the
northwest
corner
of
Welch
Road
and
Rock
Springs
Road,
and
the
request
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
Rock
Springs
commercial
plant.
The
applicant
has
submitted
the
plot
for
consideration
of
creating
two
lots
in
a
30-foot
wide
track,
a
right-of-way
dedicated
to
the
Perpetual
use
of
the
public.
B
C
Is
this
where
the
the
Circle
K
is
going
in
no
we'll
be.
E
This
is
probably
discussed
before
it's
probably
right
turn
in
right:
turnout
into
this
property
to
avoid
any
collisions,
return.
D
F
A
B
Jean
Sanchez
with
the
Community
Development
Department,
the
applicant
has
submitted
the
ridge
parcel
4
plot
for
consideration
of
creating
268
lots
for
residential
subdivision.
It's
part
of
the
ridge
PD
plan
development,
south
of
Boy
Scout
Road.
This
plot
is
consistent
with
the
rich
major
development
plan
approved
by
City
Council
on
October
13
2021
and
the
ridge
parcel
4
construction
site
plan
approved
by
the
development
Review
Committee
on
April
6
2023.
B
C
Have
a
question,
sir:
was
this
the
I
knew
we
had
a
discussion
about
I
think
it
was
the
sister
property
that
west
of
this
one
a
few
months
ago,
and
there
was
some
concerns
about
the
road.
C
Yeah
just
west
of
this,
and
it
was
concerns
about
whether
the
road
was
going
to
be
sufficient
I
believe.
Wasn't
there
I'm
just
trying
to
remember,
there's
a
discussion
I'm
trying
to
look
at
the
map.
Here
there
was
a
discussion
about
a
road
going
in
to
alleviate
the
traffic
on
Boy
Scout
Road
correct.
It
would
go
to
the
South.
B
Right,
there's
a
oh,
the
I
think
there
was
there's
an
approved
parcel,
a
parallel
facility
parcel.
Is
it
right
here,
south
of
it
John.
O
O
C
O
Great
yeah
I
mean
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
roads,
so
I
mean
this
is
a
large
PD.
There
were
some
improvements
on
Boy
Scout.
There
was
really
we
we
pipelined
and
improved
the
construction
of
akoyapopca
in
Boy
Scout.
That
intersection
really
neat.
We
got
the
hump
out
and
that's
been
reopened
and
done
so,
but
there's
other
kind
of
roadway
improvements
going
on,
but
the
new
road
is
being
constructed
right
now.
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
D
B
E
B
For
the
plats,
we
don't
usually
include
it.
We
include
it
for
the
site
plans,
but
we
will
include
it
from
here
on
for
plats
as
well.
That.
E
Mr
chairman
I
approved
this
motion
or
this
motion
to
approve
the
rich
parcel
4
plot,
subject
to
the
reviews
of
the
city
engineer
and
City
surveyor.
Thank.