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Full Planning Commission Meeting from January 12, 2021 at City Hall.
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In
a
second
any
discussion
or
further
nominations,
they
will
close
the
nominations
and
vote
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
say
no
and
that
courage
unanimously
do.
I
have
a
nomination
for
vice
chairperson.
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And
if
no
one
makes
a
nomination
I'll
nominate
our
last
year's
chairperson
commissioner,
william
golfer
gustler,
you
didn't
know
you
were
vice
chair
last
year.
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There
will
be
a
public
hearing
on
every
item
on
the
agenda,
but
at
this
time,
if
anyone
has
any
comments
and
one
item
not
on
the
agenda
or
on
the
agenda,
you
can
come
up
to
the
podium
and
make
them
now
in
seeing
none.
We
will
proceed
with
the
agenda.
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Good
evening,
allison
williams
planner
one
with
the
city's
planning
division.
Tonight
we
have
a
request
to
rezone
a
five
acre
parcel
of
land
from
t
transitional
to
rce
a
residential
country
estate.
The
subject
property
is
located
at
1228
usler
road.
The
applicant
is
requesting
the
rezoning
of
the
property
to
residential
country
estate
in
order
to
divide
the
property
into
two
lots.
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And
since
this
is
a
special
quasi-judicial,
I
would
ask
if
anyone
desires
to
be
recognized
as
an
affected
party.
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Then
there's
the
applicant
you're
included
in
any
event,
so
you
don't
need
that.
Okay,
seeing
none
I'll
ask
commissioners
if
anyone
has
had
ex
parte
communications
on
this
item.
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Good
evening,
allison
williams
planner
one
with
the
city's
planning
division.
Tonight
we
have
a
request
for
a
variance
from
land
development
code,
article
5,
section,
5,
10,
8b,
1a
primary
secondary
wall
sign
sizing,
which
states
one
primary
wall
sign
is
permitted
on
each
wall
of
a
building,
parallel
or
perpendicular
to
a
road
or
street
not
exceeding
or
an
area
equal
to.
15
percent
of
the
front
wall
face
height,
multiplied
by
the
building
width,
not
exceeding
200
square
feet.
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The
applicant
is
requesting
the
variants
to
allow
a
264
square
foot
outdoor
video
board
to
be
installed
on
the
east
side
of
the
existing
structure
to
be
utilized
in
conjunction
with
the
outdoor
warship
conducted
in
the
parking
lot.
The
applicant
installed
the
video
board
without
a
building
permit
and
applied
for
an
after
the
fact.
Building
permit
that
was
subsequently
rejected.
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The
request
was
reviewed
by
the
development
review
committee,
which
consists
of
police
and
fire
departments.
The
development
review
committee
stated
concerns
regarding
noise
transmission
from
the
video
board
after
suitable
operating
hours.
The
video
board
must
only
be
used
during
certain
operating
hours,
which
have
been
designated
as
dawn
to
dusk.
If
other
uses
outside
of
these
operating
hours
are
to
arise
in
the
future,
they
must
be
presented
and
taken
through
a
special
permit
process
per
the
land
development
code.
Planning
commission
shall
make
an
initial
determination
on
the
three
criteria
noted
on
the
screen.
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A
D
For
the
record
bobby
hall
planning
manager,
we
put
in
the
report
that
we
don't
object
to
it
being
200
square
feet
as
far
as
conditions,
the
police
and
fire
department
came
up
with
several
conditions
that
are
contained
within
your
staff
report.
It
is
up
to
you
to
determine
whether
or
not
you
either
recommend
approval
or
approve
with
conditions
or
deny
the
variance
request.
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I
have
a
couple
of
questions
as
well
under
the
under
the
ordinance.
There
are
certain
findings
we
need
to
make
to
approve
it
and
I'm
not
sure
I
see
how
we
can
make
those
findings.
It's
one.
It's
a
requested
variance
relates
to
a
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
land
and
not
solely
on
the
needs
of
the
owner.
A
Is
staff
able
to
make
that
finding
I
mean,
or
is
that
just
something
we
have
to
decide
and
while,
while
I'm
at
it
one
of
the
other
conditions,
it
says
there
are
practical
difficulties
in
carrying
out
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulation,
in
that
the
requested
variance
relates
to
a
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
land
and
not
solely
on
the
needs
of
the
owner.
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G
H
I
have
a
question.
The
the
video
board
says
is
on
the
east
side
of
the
existing
structure.
When
I
drove
by
there
that
structure
in
110
athletics
room
is
the
well
athletic
center.
Is
that
right.
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Okay,
so
and
oh
that's
let
it
true,
that's
where
you
have
the
front
doors
coming
into
the
facility
now
right
so
now
the
video
board
is
going
to
be
on
it's
going
to
be
on
that
same
wall.
That's
the
east
wall
is
that
right.
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F
There's
not
a
lot
of
room
for
anything
to
block
sunrise
on
the
horizon,
and
so
as
the
hours
change,
a
dawn
to
dusk
requirement
changes
every
day.
And
that
just
needs
to
be
assured
that
the
applicant
understands.
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G
Legally,
there's
variances
do
not
create
a
precedent.
Variances
are
examined
on
a
case-by-case
basis
as
to
whether
that
applicant
has
met
the
standards.
There's
no
precedent
or
legal
term
story
decisis
when
it
comes
to
a
variance.
Each
applicant
will
have
to
make
that
presentation
and
that
determination.
The
board
has
to
look
at
each
application
in
its
own
on
its
own
individual
merit
and
not
based
on
establishing
precedence
based
on
other
variances.
That
would
then
be
the
legislative
discretion
of
the
council
to
change
the
code.
In
that
case,.
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But,
and
also
if
I'm
reading
it
correctly,
it
says
if
the
planning
commission
finds
its
unique
here,
that's
one
thing,
but
if
they,
if
they
find
that
it's
it's
not
unique
and
it
could
be
common
to
other
areas,
then
we
have
to
consider
that
as
well.
Do.
I
I
It
says
the
development
review
committee
stated
that
the
uses
need
to
be
to
remain
oriented
towards
worship.
Viewing
or
showing
of
motion
pictures
picture
films
is
prohibited,
renting
of
the
video
board
will
be
prohibited,
external
speakers
or
system
is
prohibited;
in
other
words,
they
right
now
they
broadcast
on
a
radio
basis.
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C
I
Could
pretty
much
go
away?
That's
you
know
some
of
the
some
of
the
you
know,
ideas
behind
it.
Typically,
a
sign
isn't
supposed
to
be
a
moving
sign.
We
do
in
that's
the
other
reason
why
this
is
more
of
a
variance
type
condition
if
it's
a
moving
sign
similar
to
your
video
boards,
they're
limited
to,
I
believe
it's
25
of
the
sign
space.
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So
if
they
wanted
to
keep
a
video
board
up
there,
as
you
know
that
type
of
use
that
ended
up
being,
it
would
end
up
probably
becoming
a
special
exception,
because
again
it's
you're
limited
to
25
percent
of
a
science
base.
We
thought
this
was
the
you
know
the
easiest
route
to
go
for
this,
because
it
is
a
size
constraint
that
was
put
up
before
they
even
applied
for
anything.
So.
A
All
right,
further
questions
of
staff.
Okay,
thank
you,
and
do
we
have
a
petitioner's.
J
You
don't
mind
if
I
take
my
mask
off,
do
not
mind.
Thank
you
good
evening,
chairman
and
fellow
commissioners.
My
name
is
jonathan
ewells,
I'm
with
the
lounge
law
firm
at
215,
north
eola
drive
in
orlando
32801
here
on
behalf
of
the
owner,
which
is
seven-day
adventist,
and
this
is
known
as
the
the
well
or
patmos
chapel.
J
Some
of
you
may
recall.
It's
also
called
the
cooper
sports
complex,
this
photograph,
just
kind
of
shows
the
lay
of
the
land
of
where
this
property
is
located.
I'm
not
sure
how
familiar
all
of
you
may
be
with
it.
It's
to
the
west
of
chapman
road
south
of
first
street,
and
let
me
zoom
in
a
little
bit
more.
J
We
could
talk
about
where,
because
I
think
you
all
had
already
discussed
this,
but
the
video
board
would
be
is
currently,
let's
see
it's
it's
erected
here,
which
is
over
at
the
end
of
the
portica
share.
This
is
the
the
main
building
here
and
here's
the
parking
lot
why
it
was
put
up.
There
is
because,
at
the
start
of
or
into
the
covid
pandemic,
the
church
decided
to
no
longer
conduct
inside
warship
and
they
put
their
brains
together
and
said.
Well,
what
else
can
we
do
and
they
realize?
J
Well,
we
do
have
the
layout
that
would
lend
itself
to
doing
some
drive-in
worship,
and
so
they
went
through
and
applied
to
the
city
for
a
special
event
permitting
to
allow
for
saturday
drive-in
warship
which
they're
currently
conducting
and
they
so
it's
it's.
They
have
a
small
stage
set
up
here
in
front
of
the
portica
share
I'll
call
it
a
porter
cashier
and
they
then
have
the
congregation
drive
in
stay
in
their
cars.
J
There's
a
low
frequency
fm
radio
station
that
they
tune
into
and
they
can
listen
and
they
can
worship
safely
and
the
thought
process
behind
the
video
board
was.
We
can
add
an
element
here
because
you
know,
if
you're
in
the
back
rows,
if
it's
a
busy
day
it's
difficult
to
see
anyone
that
may
be
on
this
small
erected
stage,
that's
in
the
front
and
we
could
be
able
to
broadcast
a
video
feed
of
that
pastor
or
singers
or
whoever
may
be
taking
stage
during
that
worship
service,
and
so
they
contacted
a
video
board
manufacturer.
J
They
went
under
contract.
They
paid
a
considerable
sum
of
money
for
this
video
board.
They
had
it
erected,
it
turns
out
the
contractor,
didn't
follow
the
rules,
didn't
go
and
get
a
permit
didn't
go
to
check
out
what
could
be
put
on
the
on
the
wall
or
how
the
city
would
regulate
it.
Now,
we're
kind
of
stuck
in
the
situation
where
the
video
board's
up
it's
not
being
operated,
but
it
is
the
desire
of
the
church
to
utilize
it
for
these
outdoor
saturday
worship
services.
J
J
J
J
If
you
then
turn
to
the
photo
on
the
right,
this
is
past
the
parking
lot.
So
it
would
be
like
kind
of
out
here
looking
towards
the
video
board
video
boards
right
here.
Here's
that
police
car
another,
I'm
sorry
another
perspective.
This
is
from
the
south.
Looking
kind
of
northwest
here
would
be
the
video
board
just
off
the
property
line,
and
then
this
picture
is
from
what
would
be
the
north
east
corner.
Looking
back
towards
the
property
now,
in
terms
of
view,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
this
photo
here.
J
The
view
shed
really
is
just
this
parking
lot
during
drc.
There
were
no
concerns
expressed
from
staff
about
you,
know
external
issues
with
with
who
may
see
this
video
board
and
what
it
would
be
used
for,
because
here
we
have
a
railroad
right
away.
You
then
have
the
commercial
strip
in
441
right
behind
it.
This
is
a
vacant
property
and
maybe
even
this
first
photo
shows
it
better,
and
then
you
have
the
remaining
warehouse
users
within
the
cooper
warehouse
complex.
J
So
really
the
there
wasn't
a
whole
lot
of
concerns
expressed
about
some
type
of
an
external
impact
of
the
use
of
the
video
board
on
the
neighboring
properties,
or
you
know,
potentially
at
causing
a
nuisance.
There
was
discussion
regarding
amplified
noise,
but
we
are
certainly
willing
to
put
a
condition
on
of
on
of
approval.
If
it
was
this
board's,
you
know
would
like
it
to
to
put
no
amplified
noise
ever
to
be
utilized
with
the
board.
J
B
J
Okay,
no
amplified
noise,
it's
all
through
the
way
right
that
wouldn't
change
like
I
said
before.
You
know
that
the
surrounding
area
is
industrial,
warehousing,
it's
vacant
land
and
it's
a
railroad
right
away.
It's
with
the
the
the
whole
idea
behind
it.
Why
I
was
put
up
you
know
was
to
be
utilizing
conjunction
with
outdoor
drive-in
warship
right
now,
those
are
on
saturdays.
They
have
special
event
permitting
saturdays
10
to
1..
J
There
is
a
desire
to
have
it
on
wednesday
as
well,
but
that
has
not
been
approved
by
the
city
yet
so
that
is
maybe
putting
the
cart
a
bit
before
the
horse,
because
that
would
have
to
go
through
a
similar
process,
as
the
saturday
warship
has
which
they
would
need
to
go
before
drc
and
apply
for
that
special
event.
Permit
the
size
and
dimensions
of
the
current
board
provides
the
proper
aspect
ratio
for
a
widescreen
video
board,
and
it's
our
belief
that
it's
appropriate
for
that
view.
J
Shed
of
that
parking
lot,
we
don't
believe
it's
any
bigger
than
it
needs
to
be
or
any
smaller
it
needs
to
be.
There
would
be
no
amplified
sound
as
we
said,
and
you
know
the
proposed
conditions
I
I
know
jim
and
his
staff
has
put
some
in
there
and
there's
a
couple
of
them.
J
J
You
know
we
believe,
and
it's
it's
included
in
your
staff
report-
that
we
meet
the
conditions
of
a
variance.
It's
an
unfortunate
circumstance
that
the
church
has
found
itself
in
and
there
was
absolutely
no,
you
know
desire
to
find
it
here.
They
hired
a
contractor,
they
paid
them
money
and
it
was
a
considerable
sum
and
they're
just
trying
to
work
through
the
issue
as
we
speak.
A
J
I
haven't
looked
at
that
contract
and
you
know
there
may
be
something
there
to
need
to
look
like
depending
on
the
outcome
of
this
meeting.
But
you
know
this
is
the
path
of
least
resistance.
Quite
frankly,
you
know
we
think
in
the
age
of
covet
and-
and
hopefully
this
video
board
is
not
used
utilized
much
past
this
year.
J
But
right
now
it's
you
know,
that's
the
age
we
live
in
and
this
pandemic
keeps
taking
twists
and
turns,
and
who
knows
when
the
drive-in
service?
Actually,
you
know
ceases
to
be
a
need
right
for
the
congregation.
H
The
you
know
the
reason
for
it
all
makes
complete
sense.
I
understand
the
whole
thing,
but
this
tram
has
said
that
somebody.
H
H
Your
own
words,
you
said
well,
this
is
the
past
easier
path
to
resolve
the
issue,
which
is
to
get
a
variance
instead
of
challenging
the
the
company
that
installed
the
video
board
in
the
first
place
incorrectly.
J
Well,
I
mean
I
I
essentially
yes,
I
mean,
but
that's
you
know
if,
if
the
last
thing
the
church
wants
to
do
is,
engage
in
an
adversarial
proceeding,
litigation
and-
and
you
know
we
wanted
to
present
this
to
you-
we
thought
it
was
a
unique
circumstance.
J
We
feel
it
does
meet
the
criteria
for
a
variance,
and
you
know
obviously
it's
the
decision
of
this
commission
on
on.
Ultimately,
what
comes
next.
A
I
have
a
question
probably
for
our
attorney.
If
we
were
we
to
deny
it,
you
can
of
course
appeal
it
to
the
city
council
for
us
to
approve
it.
There
are
certain
findings
we
should
make.
Were
we
to
deny
it
and
were
it
to
be
appealed
to
city
council?
Are
they
under
the
same
constraints
we
are
or
could
they
just
reverse
the
commission.
A
G
Or
the
decision,
then,
is
that
this
board
reviewed
the
evidence
that
was
presented
before
it
and
that
the
evidence
was
competent,
substantial
evidence
and
therefore
they
would
overrule
the
board's
decision.
However,
anything
that
goes
before
the
city
council
is
going
to
be
based
on
the
record.
That's
presented
right
before
this
commission
today,
all
right
all
right.
C
Yes,
I
do
so
you're
the
attorney
for
the
church,
correct.
J
I'm
been
retained,
I
do
not
do
day-to-day
well.
C
J
Well,
I
I
think
it's
the
frame
of
mind
right.
I
could
argue,
and
and
and
I
would
argue-
that
the
hardship
is
this
coveted
pandemic.
The
hardship
is
this
church
doesn't
want
to
be
doing
a
drive-in
warship
service,
but
it's
the
the
safest
and,
and
you
know
way
that
they
can
come
together
and
worship
together
and
it
it
is
that
they
wouldn't
be
before
you
today.
J
If
that
wasn't
the
case
and
that
they
didn't
create
the
pandemic
that
they
created,
you
know
the
pandemic
creates
the
need
for
these
type
of
and
quite
frankly,
I
think
it's
it's
a
unique
circumstance.
This
can't
work
everywhere.
It's
the
it's.
The
fact
that
the
church
happened
to
buy
a
sports
complex.
That
has
four
a
parking
lot
with
400
spaces,
and
can
you
know
accommodate
this
type
of
use.
A
J
Well,
I
would
tell
you
that
you
know
the
the
characteristics
of
the
land
is
that
it's
a
large
parking
lot
and
that
a
limit
of
200
feet
in
based
on
the
aspect
ratio
and
how
they'd
have
to
build
it,
went
and
provide
a
video
board
with
a
sufficient
view
shed
to
be
able
to
service
that
parking
lot,
and
so
I
you
know.
I
think
this
is
just
extremely
unique
situation
and
then
one
other
thing.
I
think
it
should
be
mentioned
that,
like
I
said
no
other
uses,
certainly
not
going
to
be
used
for
advertising.
J
So
while
we're
bringing
this
under
and
trying
to
characterize
it
as
signage,
it
truly
isn't
it's
it's
something
that
I
think
staff
had
struggled
with,
trying
to
characterize
what
this
would
be
utilized
for
and
so
in
in
interfacing
with
staff.
It
was
decided
to
go
around
this.
I
mean
I
think
the
argument
made.
It's
not
really
should
be
regulated
as
a
sign
anyways,
because
it
it's
not
utilized
to
to
advertise
any
use,
that's
either
or
goods.
It's
not
retail,
but
goods
sold
within
the
specific
property.
B
I
have
a
a
couple
thoughts
as
far
as
who
dropped
the
ball
or
the
fault
of
that
would
it
have
been
if
they
put
a
200.
No,
I
guess
this
directed
you
jim.
If
they
would
put
a
200
square
foot
sign
up,
we
wouldn't
be
having
a
discussion.
They
would
have
paid
a
fine
for
being
not
having
their
permit
issued
a
permit,
and
this
would
have
been
a
non-issue
correct.
I
Well,
we
probably
would
have
brought
this
to
you
in
regards
to
variance
also
because
it's
over
the
25
percent
motion.
I
You
know
like
the
gas
stations
or
the
bank
signs
where
you
have
the
bank
sign
itself,
and
then
it
says
time
date.
You
know,
get
your
cds
here,
those
are
limited
to
25.
So
this
is
in
this
case
it's
100
and
it's
all
movable.
B
I
That's
pretty
much
it
we're
trying
to
avoid
the
billboard
look
on
on
walls,
okay,
there's!
We
do
have
a
lot
of
large
signs
and
we
do
take
into
consideration
that
the
height
of
the
of
a
building
like
advent
health,
you
know
they
they.
We
actually
did
change
the
code
to
allow
for
high-rise
structures
to
have
a
larger
sign
than
200
square
feet.
It'd
be
like
you
know,
putting
a
postage
stamp
on
the
side,
which
is
basically
what
they
had
done
at
that
at
that
stage,.
B
B
So
does
that
and
I
realize
that
we're
limited,
because
that's
the
rule
that
we
have
in
place,
but
does
that
really
fit
into
the
intent
of
that
rule
that
we
put
in
place
to
limit
the
signs
on
the
side
of
the
building
limit,
the
movement
and
all
that,
if
it's
inactive,
95
of
the
time
or
whatever
that
percentage
would
be,
is
that
does
that
really
fit
into
that?
While
it
falls
under
the
the
sign
ordinance?
Does
it
fit
under
the
intent
of
the
sign
ordinance?
I
guess
it
might
be
if.
I
B
B
B
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
think
this
through
that.
If
the
point
of
the
ordinance
is,
we
don't
want
big
billboards
on
the
side
of
the
thing
flash
and
stuff,
and-
and
I
get
that,
but
does
this
fit
into
that
category
if
the
concession
is
made
that
it's
simply
used
for
the
broadcast
on
a
sunday
morning
and
the
rest
time
is
just
a
black
square
on
the
side
of
the
building.
I
J
Yeah
and
we
I
struggle
with
that
as
well-
I
mean
I
I
just
candidly-
I
mean
I
I
I
in
discussing
with
jim.
It
was
agreed
upon
that
this
was
the
best
we're
trying
to
put
a
square
peg
in
a
round
hole
kind
of
right
now,
because
it's
not
advertising
it,
I
mean
the
definition
of
what
a
sign
is
this
isn't
yet?
J
This
is
probably
the
closest
thing
to
it,
so
I
you
know
I
mean
I
struggled
with
that
as
well,
and
that's
why
we
are
absolutely
prepared
to
put
conditions
on
its
use
and
operation
in
order
to
you
know
make
this
not
set.
You
know
to
be
very
specific
to
this
property.
It
couldn't
be
used
as
an
example
by
anyone
else
and.
C
J
Well,
I
think
it
would
be
like
any
other
development
approval
that
this
this
commission
or
the
city
council
makes
it
it
would
fall
to
to
code
enforcement,
and
it
would
start
like
any
other
code
enforcement.
If
someone
you
know,
became
aware
that
it
was
not
being
operating
in
accordance
with
this
with
a
approval.
If
it
was
to
be
approved,
then
it
would
start
with
a
co-enforcement
complaint
and
there'd
be
an
investigation
if
there
was
a
violation
to
be
a
violation
and-
and
it
would
be
remedied
that
way
I
mean
I
don't.
C
J
C
J
Well,
I
you
know,
I
don't
think
there's
the
intent
is
what's
stated
here,
there's
no
intent
beyond
that.
There
would
and,
like
I
said,
like
the
the
church,
has
a
good
relationship
with
the
city,
the
church.
J
It
went
through
the
proper
channels
when
under
when
it
for
doing
the
drive
in
worship,
I
mean
here
it's
an
unfortunate
circumstance.
They
paid
a
lot
of
money
to
somebody
that
did
the
wrong
thing
and
they're
trying
to
rectify
that,
and
this
is
by
far
the
easiest
than
getting
into
any
sort
of
litigation.
J
We
think
you
know,
based
on
our
application
materials
and
the
staff
report,
that
that
there
is
evidence
in
the
record
that
we
meet
all
the
criteria,
and
we
do
feel
that
you
know
by
placing
these
very
specific,
very
strong
conditions
of
approval
it
it.
It
could
address
all
of
these
issues,
we're
talking
about
here
this
evening.
H
Jim,
if
the
applicant
from
the
very
beginning
approached
the
staff
regarding
the
interest
of
installing
a
video
board
for
the
purpose,
well
stated:
there's
no
doubt
about
it.
I
understand,
I
believe
it
100
and
then
they
said
to
you.
H
Lot,
the
the
board
would
have
to
be
a
certain
size
in
order
for
them
have
a
pleasant
viewing
experience
now
in
order
for
that
pleasant,
viewing
experience
to
exist
that
would
require
the
board
to
be
larger,
so
they
can
see
it.
How
would
the
city
would
have
reacted
if
they
had
done
that
from
the
very
beginning.
I
Probably
the
same
place
as
we
are
now
because,
again
it's
64
square
feet,
bigger
or
larger
than
than
israel
than
is
allowed
per
code,
so
it
would
have
been
a
variance.
It's
arbitrary
in
regards
to,
or
in
in
terms
of
your
site
might
be
better
than
my
site
if
you're
in
the
back
and
what
they're
putting
up
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
be
conveyed.
I
Depending
on
what
is
being
conveyed,
I
mean,
if
you're
putting
up
text,
that's
a
lot
different
than
somebody's
face
up
there
or
you
know
something
like
that
or
if
they
had
sing-alongs
or
something
like
that,
it
depends
on
what's
being
presented
or,
what's
being
shown
so
yeah
the
back
of
the
parking
lot
for
small
stuff
yeah.
You
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
see,
but
again
it's
it's
what's
being
conveyed
and
what
and
who's
looking
at
it
too
many
too
many
ifs,
ands
or
buts.
On
that
one.
H
G
G
G
G
A
And-
and
this
is
just
a
detail,
I
suppose,
but
one
of
the
things
on
the
slide
up
now
is
using
it
wednesday
from
7
to
9
p.m,
and
one
of
the
conditions,
if
it's
approved,
recommended
by
staff,
is
no
nighttime
use
this
time
of
year,
7
to
9
is
a
nighttime.
I
Use
yeah:
I
was
going
to
address
that
if,
if,
if
the
commission
decides
to
do
the
variance
for
the
sizing,
that's
what
you're
looking
at,
but
we
can
tack
on
the
conditions
for
that
sizing.
Those
could
be
used.
The
you
know
the
timelines.
Those
are
great.
I
don't
I
don't
mind
one
day
a
week
at
in
the
evening,
and
you
know,
of
course,
during
the
winter
time
or
summertime
whatever
it
is
that
you
get
to
stay
out
longer.
I
In
addition
to
what
mr
hughes
has
for
that,
one
I'd
still
want
to
use
utilize,
the
no
motion
picture
films
and
no
renting
of
the
video
board
and
then
and
then
the
other
conditions
that
the
city
had
put
on
other
than
the
the
one
one
day
per
week
in
the
evenings.
And
then
drc
could
approve
any
other
things
or
special
exceptions
or
special
event
permits.
A
All
right
other
conditions,
or
I
mean
other
questions.
F
F
You
also
have
facebook.
There
are
churches
here
in
town
that
broadcast
their
services
on
facebook,
and
so
maybe
you
know
you're
talking
about
this
fm
radio.
Not
everybody
has
a
radio
in
their
car
anymore,
and
so
they
probably
have
a
smart
device,
and
so
why?
Wouldn't
you
want
to
have
audio
and
video
right
there
with
you
in
the
vehicle
instead
of
having
it
up
subject
to
weather
and
the
cost
must
be
phenomenal
for
that
screen.
F
J
I
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
I
think
you
you
bring
up
some
good
ones,
I
mean,
but
you
know
I
can't
sit
here
in
monday
morning.
Quarterback.
You
know
it
was
what
the
church
decision
was
it.
You
know
we're
I'm.
I
could
just
tell
you
that
they
felt
it
was
important
and
it
was
an
asset
to
or
it
could
enhance
the
experience
that
they
felt.
This
is
the
way
to
enhance
the
experience
of
that
drive
in
warship
and
that's
guided
them
to
you
know
kind
of
where
we're
where
we
are.
F
Thing
is
to
bring
it
full
circle
from
where
I
started
at
the
beginning
of
our
discussions
was
that
the
sun
comes
up
in
the
east,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
up
for
very
long
before
it's
right
on
that
screen,
and
I.
F
Any
video
screen
that
is
a
friend
to
a
blazing
sun,
so
the
ability
to
see
the
screen
may
be
compromised.
There
could
be,
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
in
electronics
anymore,
but
I
know
that
there
are
screens
that
may
mitigate
that
and
we're
coming
into
summer
time.
It's
going
to
be
hot.
Are
people
really
going
to
sit
in
their
cars?
F
Wouldn't
they
prefer
to
you
know?
So
I
just
there's
just
a
lot
of
things.
F
E
A
H
H
I
B
So
I
don't
see
where
that's
a
huge
inference
of
of
we're
violating
this
this
code
or
we're
really
that
far
off
we're
talking
about
64
feet,
we're
talking
about
three
hours
a
week,
so
I
I
personally
don't
think
that
is.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it
under
those
conditions,
those
specific
conditions,
it's
not
going
to
be.
If
you
can't
rent
it
out,
you
can't
do
it
and
it's
only
active
three
hours
a
week,
so
we're
talking
about
the
violation
would
be
for
the
three
hours
a
week.
We've
got
a
sign.
B
That's
64
feet
too
big
on
the
side
of
a
building,
that's
off
the
main
door
over
there.
So
I
don't!
I
don't
see
you
know
the
the
whys
and
wherefores
of
why
it's
necessary
and
how
we
got
to
where
we're
at
is
one
thing,
but
the
question
before
us
is:
can
we
make
a
variance
for
this,
and
is
it
going
to
have
a
long-term
effect
and
what
is
the
effect
if
we
make
the
variance?
The
fact
is
for
three
hours
a
week,
there's
going
to
be
a
64-foot
too.
C
C
C
B
Okay,
we've
said
that
it
doesn't
make
a
precedent,
and
we've
also
said
that
the
intent
of
the
signed
law
was
for
advertisement
building
or
whatever,
and-
and
my
point
is
that,
if
it's
a
blank
board
all
week
long
and
it's
only
for
three
hours,
what
why
is
that
imposition
or
why
is
that
going
to
be
damaging
to
the
city
in
any
way
or
the
residents
or
the
character
of
the
land
in
any
way,
shape
or
form?
I
just
don't
see
it.
A
E
E
F
You
know
this
was
designed
because
people
didn't
want
to
go
into
the
building.
There
might
have
been
restrictions.
I
think
the
restrictions
are
pretty
much
all
off
now,
but
then,
what's
going
to
happen
to
me,
the
temptation
to
ju,
oh
what
oh,
we
have
it
out
there.
Let's
just
use
it
well.
I
B
B
Whether
it's
up
there
or
not,
you
know
if
they
take
it
down,
they
take
it
down.
That's
not!
That's
not
the
point
I
was
making,
but
the
point
is:
is
that
they're
asking
to
use
a
sign?
That's
64
feet
bigger
than
the
200
square
foot
for
three
hours
a
week
and
they're
willing
to
make
concessions
that
it
won't
be
used.
There
will
be
no
sound,
it
won't
be
used
for
any
other.
No
pictures,
no
movies,
no
rental.
B
A
A
C
E
A
Vote
would
be
to
deny
all
in
favor,
say:
aye,
aye
and
the
opposed
say.
No,
no.
Okay,
then
that
carries
four
to
one
correct.
Okay,
all
right
do
we
have
any
new
business?
Do
we
have
any
old
business
there
being
no
further
business
to
consider
will
be.