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From YouTube: Apopka Planning Commission Meeting November 9, 2021
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Apopka Planning Commission Meeting at City Hall on November 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM. To view the meeting agenda visit: http://www.apopka.net/agenda
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A
A
A
Okay,
at
the
beginning
of
each
meeting,
we
have
a
public
comment
period
for
any
general
comments.
A
person
wants
to
make
if,
if
you're
here
for
a
specific
agenda
item,
we'll
have
a
public
hearing
in
connection
with
each
item.
But
if
anyone
has
any
general
comments,
they'd
like
to
make
now's
the
time
to
do
it
and
seeing
none
we'll
proceed
with
the
agenda.
A
Our
first
item
is
the
apopka
code
of
ordinances,
part
three
land
development
code
code,
glitch
amendment
four,
and
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
C
Thank
you,
chair
jim
hick,
community
development
director.
This
is
the
fourth
set
of
amendments
that
we've
had
since
the
march
6
2019
rewrite
of
our
entire
land
development
code,
so
we're
plugging
along
pretty
good.
Our
first
one
occurred
on
was
adopted
by
city
council
and,
of
course,
planning
commission
has
the
that
dubious
honor
of
going
through
all
these
and
making
sure
that
they
actually
meet
our
needs
for
the
city
of
city
of
apopka
and
then
makes
the
recommendation
to
city
council
for
approval.
C
So
our
first
set
of
amendments
went
through
in
january
of
2020.
The
next
set
was
in
july
of
2020
and
then
november
of
2020.
So
we've
we
haven't
done
any,
since
I
think
it's
we've
been
collecting
them
over
the
last
half
year
or
so,
and
of
course,
put
the
this
next
batch
of
35
or
36
pages
together
for
your
reading
pleasure,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
go
through
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
sit
down,
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
through
the
ordinance.
C
In
this
case,
you
actually
get
to
see
the
ordinance
and
we
won't
have
to
worry
about
reading
the
ordinance
heading.
We'll
leave
that
up
to
the
city
clerk
at
the
city
council
meeting,
because
it's
about
a
page
and
a
half
so
she's
already,
you
know
kind
of
practicing
that
one,
because
it's
a
long
ordinary.
C
So
what
I'm
going
to
do?
There's
there
are
two
different
versions
of
this
to
be
able
to
look
at
for
those
of
you
that
have
gone
online,
there's
a
different
set
of
page
numbers
and
I'm
going
to
just
kind
of
highlight
the
majority
of
these
there
are
these
are
this.
C
This
set
of
amendments
is
actually
affecting
five
out
of
the
ten
different
articles
and
then
appendix
a
b
and
d
and
I'll
you
know
clarify
which
what
we're
going
to
be
changing
for
each
of
those
for
those
of
you
that
are
looking
at
just
the
paper
version.
C
And
I
think
what
I'll
do
since
it's
a
low
number
and
a
high
number
I'll
just
say
I'm
on
page,
you
know
two
or
three
twenty
two
or
three
or
twenty
two,
and
then
that
way
you
can
follow
and
if
you,
if
you
get
lost
you
just
let
me
know
and
I'll
I'll
re
recap
it.
Okay,
one
of
the
main
things
that
we're
looking
at
on
on
this
first
batch
is
the
community
meeting
optional.
We
we
originally
call
that
a
pre-application
community
meeting
and
a
lot
of
these
aren't
necessarily
pre-application.
C
They
might
be
a
just
a
discussion
type,
so
we're
we're
getting
we're
getting
rid
of
the
pre-app,
because
it's
kind
of
a
misnomer.
If
somebody
gets
in
and
they
got
a
pre-app,
they
immediately
think
hey,
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
get
this,
but
there's
a
lot
more
to
a
development
for
a
site
plan
than
just
doing
a
pre-app
thinking.
I
got
it
made
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
get
this
free
app
in
I'm,
going
to
get
everything
approved,
there's
a
lot,
as
you
know,
going
into
site
plan.
C
So
we
wanted
to
get
rid
of
that.
Pre-App
type
of
connotation
on
page
5
and
24:
this
is
where
we're
getting
into
some
of
the
different
zoning
districts.
There's
a
couple
portions
that
we've
added
into
about
six
different
districts,
one
had
to
do
with
development
on
the
north
side
of
poncan,
and
this
is
kind
of
a
clarification
that
everything
unless
they're
in
the
kelly
park
interchange.
C
C
We
were
having
some
issues
with
people
putting
in
homes
in
cul-de-sacs
and
not
having
enough
space
in
the
front
for
a
driveway
and
then
how
far
back
do
they
build
the
house?
So
what
we?
What
we
did
with
that
one?
We
clarified
that
basically,
lots
that
are
on
cul-de-sacs
or
curves
are
allowed
to
reduce
the
lot
width
by
up
to
40
percent
at
the
front
or
the
front
property
line
along
the
street,
but
are
still
required
to
maintain
the
property
width.
That's
required
for
over
whatever
zoning
code.
C
That
is
so
say,
for
instance,
for
for
this
one,
which
is
the
rsf-1a.
It's
a
95-foot
wide
lot,
so
they
can.
They
can
reduce
that
down
to
40
at
the
curve,
but
then,
where
the
house
actually
is,
it
still
has
to
be
95
feet
in
order
to
be
able
to
put
that
front
set
back
in.
So
the
lots
might
be
really
big
in
that
type
of
a
subdivision.
C
So
those
are
the
main
things
that
we
did
with
with
the
different
zoning
districts
themselves.
Now
I'm
going
to
skip
ahead
to
the
permitted
uses
table
which
is
on
page
14
or
get
to
that
real,
quick
or
33.
That's
where
that
that
chart
starts
and
we've
put
in
a
few
different
permitted
uses,
sections
or
tables
or
uses
in
there,
we've
added
a
cigar
bar
in
there,
so
that
we
clarify
any
any
questions.
C
Regarding
that,
we
also
got
rid
of
the
vape
and
hookah
lounge,
because
we
basically
don't
have
them
and
we've
I've
had
I've
talked
to
quite
a
few
different
people
and
they
don't
really
want
a
vape
and
hookah
lounge.
So
we
took
that
out.
There
was
also
a
question
regarding
car
washes,
there's
another
section
that
I'll
be
going
at
going
at
farther
in
where
we
we
actually
had
a
piece
of
property
that
was
annexed
in
back
about
six
about
six
years
ago
and
the
main
reason
they
wanted
to
come
in
was
so.
C
They
could
build
a
car
wash
on
the
west
side
of
downtown.
Well,
when
we
expanded
our
downtown
district,
going
up,
441
up
to
hawthorne
and
then
and
then
south
east,
to
approximately
sheila.
C
It
took
that
property
into
into
the
downtown
and
because
they
wanted
a
car
wash
the
new
code
got
rid
of
car
washes
in
the
downtown
and
they
had
annexed
primarily
so
they
could
actually
do
that.
So
what
we
did?
We
looked
at
that
property
itself.
We've
got
a
minimum
acreage
of
an
acre
and
a
half
this
property.
This
particular
property
is
actually
going
to
be
about
two
acres
and
we
put
in
some
constraints
so
that
not
every
property
could
ever
do
that.
D
C
Also,
some
setback
requirements,
there's
also
buffering
requirements
and
it
gets
a
little
more
strict
in
a
typical
car
wash
and
I'll
be
going
into
that
detail
a
little
bit
farther
down
in
the
in
the
code
itself.
C
The
other
thing
that
was
kind
of
interesting
is
we
had
some
personal
vehicle
repair
locations
and
one
in
both
of
those
were
not
in
the
industrial
district.
So
we
thought
out
of
any
repair
disk
or
any
repair
area.
Industrial
would
be
a
really
good
place
to
put
repairs.
C
So
we
we
added
that
in
as
a
permitted
use
again,
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
logical
things
we
just
you
know
you
read,
you
read
840
pages
of
the
land
of
element
code.
You
do
miss
a
couple
things,
but
then
things
get
pointed
out
and
so
before
it
becomes
an
issue,
you
try
to
take
care
of
those
logical
process,
kind
of
thing.
C
On
page
18,
which
is
also
page
37,
if
you're
looking
on
the
ipads
state
guidelines
and
building
guidelines,
actually
put
fences
for
around
swimming
pools
at
48
inches.
So
what
we're
doing
with
that?
One
is
matching
what
the
state
code
actually
has
for
for
building
for
fencing
around
pools,
most
people.
This
is
the
one
thing
that
we
I
found
out
in
the
last
last
year,
or
so
is
that
swimming
pools?
C
C
C
This
was
a
fun
one
for
quite
a
few
years.
We
basically
told
people
you
cannot
have
chain-link
fence
in
your
prop
on
your
property.
We
did
make
one
one
change
back.
I
think
it
was
the
second
set
of
amendments
where
we
allowed
agriculture
to
have
chain
link
kind
of
makes
sense.
C
One
of
the
things
that's
that
was
coming
up
is
that
we
do
have
rce,
which
is
your
residential
country
estate.
It's
a
pretty
big
lot.
I
think
it's
like
two
acres,
institutional
uses,
parks
and
recreation
and
industrial
low.
We're
also
allowing
those
uses
to
have
chain
link.
However
other
than
the
agriculture
we
are
requiring
those
chain
links
to
be
either
vinyl
coated
or
powder
coated
black,
so
that
so,
basically
it
blends
a
lot
easier
and
it
does.
C
It
does
give
a
little
bit
of
diversity,
but
for
industrial
areas
I
mean
some
of
these
industrial
areas
are
multiple
acres
with
you
know:
100
100,
to
150
or
1.5
million
square
feet
and
to
require
that
to
have
a
a
metal
wrought
iron
fence
around
the
whole
property.
It's
not
that's,
not
a
reasonable
type
of
requirement.
C
So
if
you
powder
coated
or
vinyl
coat
powder
coat
of
course
lasts
a
lot
longer,
vinyl
coat
does
crack,
but
you
can
also
paint
it
with
with
a
good
epoxy
type
paint
if
it
breaks
or
cracks.
So
I
just
recommend
doing
the
powder
coat
right
off
the
bat
and
most
of
the
industrial
developers
that
we've
talked
to
said
yeah.
That's
reasonable.
C
Oh
and
then
the
other
one,
this
is
another
one
dog
parks
this
this
one,
we
just
thought
of
about
a
month
and
a
half
when
we
were
putting
the
ordinance
together,
dog
parks.
If
you
have
a
dog
and
you
and
you've
gone
to
a
park.
If
you
try
to
do
a
dog
park
with
a
split
rail
fence,
it's
not
going
to
keep
the
little
dogs
in
so
that
was
a
that
was
just
a
logical
one.
Also,
we
I'm
not
worried
about
the
height
of
it
of
the
dog
park
fence.
C
C
Going
on
page
26
or
45
a
lot
of
our
developments,
you
know
we
always
require
the
majority
of
those
require
different
different
number
of
entrances
and
there's
always
exceptions
because,
depending
on
the
property
location,
you
might
not
be
able
to
get
one
or
two
or
three
entrances.
But
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
spell
it
out
in
the
code
and
give
it
at
least
a
place
where
we
can
actually
regulate
it
and
for
up
to
25
units.
You
don't
need
more
than
one
entrance
for
25
to
250
units.
C
We
want
one
full
access,
access
point
and
one
full
access
point,
or
one
planned
secondary
access
point
or
an
emergency
access
point
on
an
existing
road
right
away.
That
way,
if
the
original
access
point
gets
plugged
up
because
of
an
accident,
they
happen
at
just
about
every
intersection
or
every
every
entrance
to
subdivisions.
E
Let
me
go
back
to
to
a
on
this
two
25
to
250
dwelling
units
yep.
What
what.
F
E
C
C
It
might
be
a
dead
end
or
a
cul-de-sac
where
you
would
eventually
have
another
access
point.
Coming
into
that
subdivision,
we
got
quite
a
few
of
those
up
off
of
kelly
park.
You've
actually
reviewed
quite
a
few
that
it
might
have
one
entrance
and
then
there's
a
dead
end
and
we
put
a
sign
up
there.
That
says
future
access
point.
C
Some
of
those
subdivisions
that
are
up
off
of
kelly
park,
they
there's
not
enough
room
to
put
two
points
or
two
access
points,
so
we
plan
on
eventually
expanding
you
know,
usually
all
those
are
in
the
kali
park,
interchange
with
the
form-based
code
area.
So
we
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
developments
that
are
going
in
fact
is
off
of
plymouth.
Sorrento
north
of
kelly
park.
C
There's
two
subdivisions
going
in
there
there's
another
one,
just
north
of
that
that's
planned
on
going
in
going
on
up
to
onditch
and
all
of
those
there's
at
least
one
access
point
going
out
to
plymouth,
sorrento,
but
then
they're
all
using
the
north
and
south
access
to
go
to
the
either
to
the
north
or
to
the
south,
and
right
now
we
we
just
looked
at
one
today
that
gets
us
all
the
way
up
to
oddish.
So
we've
got
at
least
two
access
points
for
all
those
subdivisions
now
sure,
but
the
plan.
C
Usually
well,
we
have
started
putting
in
one
of
those
that
was
one
of
the
questions
that
we
had
for
avian
point
at
development
review
committee
last
week
and
there
was
they
were
doing
a
phased
apartment,
complex
and
so
the
question
came
up.
Well,
they
were
going
to
do
a
secondary
access
point
within
a
two-year
period,
but
if
it's
an
access
point
and
we've
got
300
units
already
in
and
then
they
may
or
may
not
put
in
that
secondary
development
portion
with
another
250
or
300
units.
C
C
Some
well
some
of
them.
We
can't
because
if
it's
a
subdivision,
it
it'll
it's
without
a
necessary
phase,
one
or
phase
two
or
a
phase,
two
or
phase
three,
where
we
know
that
that
area
is
going
to
be
developed,
because
that's
the
only
area
that
can
get
five
to
fifteen
dwelling
units
per
acre.
So
there
that's
why
everybody
is
building
in
that
kelly
park
interchange.
C
C
Well
again,
it
depends
it's
a
case-by-case
basis
and
staff
is
definitely
looking
at
those
now.
But
if
we
don't
have
the
requirements,
we
can't
require
it.
So
now
we
got
the
requirements,
it's
similar
to
how
many
pools
do
you
have
for
the
the
number
of
units
that
we're
going
in?
We
added
that
at
the
one
of
the
last
I
think
was
amendment
number
two
added
the
number
of
recreational
components
for
depending
on
the
size
of
the
development.
C
C
Okay,
let's
see
here,
oh
fun,
one
the
next
one
on
page
27,
which
is
also
46
at
the
bottom.
We
are.
This
is
a
request
from
the
fire
department
for
access
to
gated
subdivisions
is
they
are
required
to
have
a
numeric
keypad,
an
sos
siren,
operated
sensor
and
a
knox
key
gatekey
switch
as
approved
by
the
fire
department.
So
this
is
something
that
we
actually
got
the
the
parameters,
and
we
got
this
directly
from
the
fire
department
for
their
access,
emergency
access
management
and
the
fire.
The
police
department
also
uses
that.
C
So
that's
a
safety
thing
that
we
put
in
for
all
of
our
gated
communities.
C
I'm
on
page
29
up
near
the
top
under
utility
sheds
and
and
I
believe
we
also
have
that
for
garages.
C
C
If
you
have
a
double
fronted
lot
or
a
corner
lot,
you
can't
put
it
in
that
open
corner
area.
If
you
have
a
separate
garage
back
when
I
grew
up,
I
had
a
separate
garage.
It
was
back
in
the
back
corner
of
the
property
and
there
are
some
larger
lots.
People
like
that.
They
don't
like
it
attached
to
the
house,
so
they
build
their
house
and
they
put
the
garage
in
the
back
and
they
use.
Sometimes
they
they
build
a
smaller
garage
other
times.
C
They
I
mean
500
square
feet,
that's
at
least
a
two-car
garage
with
a
small
utility
area
with
a
workbench,
or
something
like
that.
So
we're
we're
recognizing
that
there
are
different
types
of
opportunities
for
for
people
to
utilize
their
property.
The
other
thing
that
that
we,
that
I
kind
of
clarified,
is
that
it
is
supposed
to
be
singular,
not
plural,
so
it
is
a
utility
shed
with
a
maximum
floor
area.
So
you
can't
put
multiple
sheds
on
your
property.
C
What
we've
done
we've
added
in
restaurants,
with
drive
up
or
through
facilities,
as
as
a
special
exception
in
the
village
center
area,
and
this
is
where
we
we
actually
have
a
lot
of
constraints
for
those,
because
we
originally
did
not
want
to
have
drive-through
facilities.
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
covered
19
taught
us
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
do
not
want
to
go
in
restaurants,
anymore,
and
they
do
curb
pickup
or
they
do
drive
up
pickup.
C
So
we
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
of
diversity,
but
also
still
make
it
so
that
it
doesn't
look
like
we
got
a
bunch
of
drive-throughs
along
kelly
park
or
puma
sorrento.
So
some
of
these
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
read
through
these
real
quick
drive-through
facilities,
shall
shall
be
internal
to
the
project.
In
other
words,
they
can't
be.
You
can't
see
them
from
the
road
service
windows
order,
kiosks
and
drive
dry
stacking
spaces
shall
not
be
visible
from
any
public
road.
C
C
Drive-Through
stacking
spaces
shall
not
enter
in
infringe
on
any
parking
lot
spaces.
So
that
way
you
get
your
drive
lane,
but
it's
not
going
to
block
any
of
the
parking
the
people
parking
in
the
parking
lot
they're
going
in.
They
must
be
incorporated
into
a
multi-tenant
building.
So
you
aren't
going
to
have
a
just
a.
C
A
fast
food
restaurant
going
in
the
maximum
size
of
the
tenant
space
is
limited
to
3,
000
square
feet
and
then
internal
project
signage.
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
I
was
thinking
well
nobody's
going
to
know
they're
there,
except
for
on
the
on
the
master
sign
itself,
but
if
you
can
direct
them
to
that,
then
it
stops
people
from
driving
all
over
the
parking
lot
trying
to
find
where
that
drive-through
is
so.
I
allowed
that
three
feet
high
three
feet:
three
square
feet
and
drc
approval
and
building
permits.
C
Practically
all
of
these
were
actually
recommendations
from
a
lot
of
the
developers
that
are
looking
to
to
develop
up
in
the
kelly
park
interchange.
So
I
I
took
their
advice
on
it
on
some
of
these
and
it
a
little
bit
and
it'll
get
that
area
a
little
bit
more
diversified
in
regards
to
allowing
different
types
of
development
without
having
to
go
into
a
restaurant.
Hopefully
that'll
all
come
back.
C
Let's
see
here,
one
of
the
big
ones
that
that
we
came
up
with
is
on
page
32
of
the
paper
in
51
of
the
tablet
we
had
gotten
quite
a
few
different
requests
for
different
types
of
ground
cover
one
of
the
problems,
and
this
actually
came
from
a
a
lady
known
as
dr
o
that
works
that
used
to
work
for
university
of
florida
and
I've
actually
had
this
experience
in
my
neighborhood.
Is
that
there's
there's
a
lot
of
grass
different
types
of
grass
that
are
out
there
is
bahia.
C
Zoysia
saint
augustine
are
the
main
ones
that
we
usually
have
to
deal
with,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
ground
covers
that
are
available
that
look
very
close
to
grass.
They
use
them
on
a
lot
of
medians
down
in
winter
garden
out
over
in
altamonte
springs.
That
also
look
very
nice
as
a
lawn
or
at
least
portions
of
a
lawn.
C
But
but
this
is
another
opportunity
that
we
have
to
be
a
little
bit
more
conscientious
of
what
of
our
watering
needs
and
also
of
florida
friendly
type
planting.
So
what
we
did
we
put
in
the
regular
grasses
is
in
there
and
it
basically,
you
can
utilize
at
least
50
coverage
for
different
types
of
grass,
and
we
give
a
list
under
the
appendix
b
that
that
talks
about
all
the
different
types
of
ground
cover
that
you
can
utilize.
C
So
again,
it's
a
this
is
something
that
I
had
actually
talked
with
with
a
couple
of
the
agriculture
specialists
up
at
the
university
of
florida
over
at
the
ifa
center,
and
they
like
the
idea
of
being
a
little
bit
more
cost
conscious
in
regards
to
putting
in
a
type
of
lawn
that
is
actually
easily
maintained,
water,
conscious
and
in
florida
friendly.
C
So
with
that,
that's
those
are
the
main.
I
guess
you
could
say
hitting
points
that
I
that
I
like
to.
I
wanted
to
point
out
for
you
instead
of
going
point
by
point
by
point,
so
I'm
obviously
here
for
questions
and
hopefully
good
answers,
and
I
met
your
pleasure.
A
H
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
amendment
to
the
land
development
code
and
forward
the
apopka
city
council
for
consideration.
I
I
J
Good
evening,
members
of
the
commission,
michael
rodriguez
city
attorney
for
the
record,
the
ordinance
presented
to
you
for
consideration,
is
to
permit
what
are
called
mobile
food
vendors
or
as
commonly
known
as
food
trucks.
Two
years
ago,
the
state
legislature
passed
legislation
which
preempted
the
regulation
of
food
trucks
to
the
state.
J
Within
that
legislation
it
also
stated
and
provided
that
local
governments
can
no
longer
prohibit
food
trucks
from
operating
within
their
corporate
limits.
Therefore,
what
this
ordinance
does
is
it
creates
a
mechanism
to
permit
food
trucks
to
be
permitted
uses
within
the
city
limits
within
certain
zoning
designations
and
therefore
removes
that
prior
prohibition-
currently
food
trucks,
can
only
operate
within
the
city
as
as
long
as
they're
subject
to
a
special
permit,
a
special
events
permit,
but
that,
but
there
was
a
blanket
prohibition.
J
These
food
trucks
would
be
permitted
on
public
property
subject
to
receiving
the
proper
permits
from
the
city
or
on
private
property,
insofar
as
the
mobile
food
truck
vendor
receives
written
authorization
from
the
private
property
owner
that
it
can
operate
on
the
site.
There
are
then
distancing
requirements
and
certain
other
regulations
which
local
governments
are
permitted
to
do
subject
to
the
state's
preemption,
and
those
are
all
enumerated
in
the
code.
J
B
J
Insofar
as
they're
in
a
zoning
district,
where
such
of
the
use
would
be
permitted,
so
they
wouldn't
necessarily
be
permitted
in
certain
residential
districts,
for
example,
I
can
probably
give
the
example
of
the
districts
they're
permitted
proposed
to
be
permitted
in
the
rmu
district
c,
n
c
c,
o
c
c,
o
r
c
r.
I
l
m,
u
d,
n,
m
g,
t
r
e
and
the
institutional,
as
well
as
within,
planned
development
districts
if
it
is
permitted
pursuant
to
a
developer's
agreement
or
within
whatever
pd
agreement.
There
is
thank
you.
A
B
Mr
chairman,
I
recommend
approval
of
ordinance
ordinance
number
2882
to
the
apopka
city
council,
okay,.
D
J
All
right,
good
evening,
members
of
the
commission,
michael
rodriguez
city
attorney,
the
ordinance
presented
before
you
currently
is
in
response
to
the
direction
that
the
city
council
gave
to
staff
in
order
to
address
the
issue
of
the
proliferation
of
what
our
professionally
called
small
box
discount
stores.
These
are
also
colloquially
known
as
dollar
stores.
J
There
are
various
jurisdictions
that
have
reviewed
and
examined
this
condition.
This
situation,
the
city
has
undertaken
its
own
review
of
the
current
situation
of
these
dollar
stores
within
the
city
limits
and
their
proliferation
and
the
impacts
that
they
have
within
the
city
limits
one
of
the
studies,
and
it
was
it's
included
in
your
packet
included
in
the
packet
for
the
proposal.
The
ordinance
are
all
the
studies
that
were
examined,
namely
the
biggest
issue
is
that
these
uses
proliferate.
J
Currently,
we
are
located
right
now
within
a
food
desert
in
the
city
of
apopka
downtown
something
that
may
be
ameliorated
with
future
uses
that
are
coming
in.
That
can
alleviate
this.
So
what
has
been
examined
and
we
looked
at
different
jurisdictions
and
not
just
in
florida.
We
look
nationwide
different
jurisdictions
to
help
alleviate
the
proliferation
of
these
stores.
So
what
we've
come
up?
J
What
what
has
come
up
with
is
that
these
uses
are
going
to
be
special
exception
uses,
so
they
will
be
permitted
in
certain
zoning
designations,
but
they
have
to
submit
the
special
exception
process,
which
means
they
will
be
presented
to
you.
They
have
to
meet
the
standards
for
a
special
exception,
as
well
as
specific
standards
for
these
uses
that
are
enumerated
in
the
code.
J
There
will
also
be
specific
standards
and
design
standards
for
facade
for
landscaping
for
these
uses.
As
you
said,
we
examined
different
jurisdictions,
and
this
was
commonly.
These
are
common
standards
that
have
been
presented
in
other
jurisdictions
relating
to
the
regulation
of
these
dollar
stores.
So
at
this
point,
we're
seeking
a
recommendation
to
proceed
forward
to
city
council
for
adoption
of
the
ordinance
as
both
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
the
existing
land
development
code.
B
I
have
a
question:
can
we
the
dollar
stores
they
they
are
all
identical,
small
box
same
sign?
Is
there
any
way
we
can
encourage
them
to
alter
their
elevation
of
the
store?
The
look
of
the
store,
maybe
the
way
the
sign
looks.
So
it
doesn't
look
so
boxy.
B
J
Wondering
one
of
the
conditions
in
the
ordinance
is:
we
are
making
them
subject
to
the
section
5.7
the
development
design
guidelines,
so
these
stores
will
be
subject
to
those.
We
can
consider
whether
we
want
to
take
certain
other
aspects
now.
The
issue
with
that
is
that
we
don't
have
uniform
city
requirements
for
other
design
standards,
so
this
would
only
be
applied
to
this
use.
J
J
So
when
you,
if
you
ever,
are
in
south
florida,
you
drive
through
royal
palm
beach,
you'll,
actually
notice
that
bank
of
america
in
royal
palm
beach
is
actually
tanning
green
and
not
red,
white
and
blue.
Same
thing
happened
happened
with.
I
think
it
was.
I
can't
remember
which
one
of
the
auto
parts
stores
that
I
actually
represented
the
auto
parts
store
and
we
had
to
change
our
our
color
palette
to
match
the
village's
color
palette.
I
I
First
and
foremost
reading
through
the
the
justification
at
the
beginning,
we
have
the
and
I
understand
we
have
a
lot
of
box
stores
and
they're
in
close
proximity.
Well,
that
doesn't
seem.
I
mean
as
a
practical
matter.
Gas
stations
are
in
a
close
proximity,
auto
parts
stores.
You
know
clustering
like
that,
doesn't
seem
like
that's
anything
of
usual
and
then
the
the
other
question
that
comes
to
mind
is.
I
And
actually,
I
think
it's
in
your
article,
what
dollar
stores
reveal
about
america
from
city
lab
it's
based
on
economics.
Almost
every
conclusion
they
came
to
is
that
the
demographics
and
the
people
in
that
area
use
the
dollar
stores
and
that's
why
they
cluster
in
those
areas.
That's
that's
why
they're
there?
I
don't
believe
that
the
dollar
stores
just
randomly
plop
them
in
the
ground.
I
I
know
they
do
a
lot
of
research
and
and
decide
that
so
I'm
confused
on
the
motivation
for
this
or
the
the
impetus
for
this
was
there
an
outcry
from
the
city
people
complaining
about
dollar
stores.
It
just
seems
to
me
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
say
well,
we
don't
want
dollar
stores.
Well,
dollar
stores
are
based
on
the
economic
people
who,
at
the
the
their
market,
that's
driven
by
the
market.
I
J
J
I'm
trying
to
get
the
right
word
to
spur
development
and
to
to
attempt
to
change
the
character
of
the
city
from
a
preliminary
proliferation
of
these
dollar
stores,
which
the
problem
with
these
dollar
stores
is,
while
some
of
those
effects
are
economic.
Also,
there
are
certain
health
factors.
J
These
dollar
stores
do
not
sell
fresh
foods,
so
you're
also
looking
at
a
proliferation
of
processed
foods
and
unhealthy
foods
that,
while
they
do
cater
to
an
economic
demographic
for
the
neighborhoods
they
go
to
such
a
business
model
does
not
help
the
health
and
welfare
of
that
neighborhood.
Those
neighborhoods
they
proliferate
into,
and
that
is
one
of
the
studies
that
we
that
was
one.
J
I
Is
driven
by
the
market
that
they're
in
correct
and
no
no
disrespect
michael,
but
that
is
such
a
stretch?
Are
we
gonna?
Are
we
gonna
do
something
about
mcdonald's?
If
we're
you
know,
the
the
you've
got,
the
the
the
article
in
here
food
environment
and
childhood
obesity,
the
effect
of
dollar
stores
from
a
health
economics
review
in
2015..
I
Okay,
I
mean
yeah.
I
agree
that
they
probably
sell
garbage
food
and
it's
not
the
same
as
a
home-cooked
meal
or
a
restaurant
food.
But
are
we
going
to
do
something
about
mcdonald's?
So
that's
really
kind
of
a
weak
argument
to
say
the
dollar
stores
are
bad
because
they
sell
bad
food.
Well,
people
buy
it
for
a
reason,
and
if
you
move
the
dollar
store,
they're
gonna
drive
down
the
street
and
buy
it
somewhere
else
or
go
through
mcdonald's.
So
I
don't
well,
but
then
again,
I'm
not
trying
to
to
to
beat
on
you.
J
So
this
is
a
matter
that
was
not
that
was
not
directed
by
one
council
member
but
by
the
city
council,
upon
a
vote
of
the
city
council
to
both
pass
the
ordinance
and
to
seek
these
regulations
under
the
land
development
code.
For
this
specific
use.
I
Okay
and
again,
I
I
still
question
the
goal
of
this,
and
I
know
you
know,
okay,
to
use
a
couple
different
examples,
but
that
you
know
that
the
ordinance
reads
that
to
carve
out
for
anything
big,
so
the
big
stores
are
out
anything,
let's
say
gasoline
diesel
more
than
five
percent
of
shelf
space
for
food.
Basically,
this
literally
targets
those-
I
guess,
those
three
different
brands,
family
dollar,
dollar
store
and
dollar
tree,
and
it
just
seems
to
me
again.
You
know
people
want
to
build
a
store
somewhere.
I
If
somebody
owns
a
piece
of
property
and
like
to
build
a
store,
we
have
codes
that
regulate
what
kind
of
retail
business
can
be
there,
but
now
it
seems
like,
instead
of
a
code,
a
broad-based
code,
we
did
we
designed
one
little
code
to
target
one
simple
demographic
of
stores
or
one
simple
brand
of
stores.
That
just
doesn't
seem
right.
C
We
do
we
do
limit
other
types
of
stores
too,
within
the
city
like
even
our
downtown,
we
don't
have
the
allowance
for
automotive
type
businesses.
I
C
I
J
J
J
This
is
the
one
that's
been
proposed
and-
and
we
have
given
the
reasons
and
the
and
the
justifications
for
justifying
such
a
distance
requirement
for
this
use,
there
would
stop
if
there
any
other
uses
which
both
either
a
commissioner
who
is
who
has
suggested
this
based
on
feedback
from
the
constituents.
J
There
has
been
enough
of
a
constituent
feedback
that
one
of
the
things
that
a
lot
of
the
constituents
of
the
city
of
apopka
have
have
been
kind
of
frustrated
with
is
that
they
feel
that
that
the
city
of
apopka
is
known
as
basically
the
only
thing
that
opens
and
proliferates
into
pop
car
dollar
stores
and
the
constituents,
and
there
has
been
constituent
feedback
and
which
is
one
thing
that
has
motivated
this
ordinance
and
then
that's
what
we
would.
Staff
was
directed
to
present
and
present
to
you
and
then
present
to
city
council.
J
So
if
there
are
other
uses
that
we
believe
that
there
is
a
constituency
feedback
that
are
either
detrimental
or
inconsistent
with
a
vision
for
the
city,
that
is
something
that
city
staff,
if
directed
by
council,
will
examine
and
whether
or
not
such
an
ordinance
can
be
presented
and
whether
such
an
ordinance
is
constant
would
would
meet
constitutional
muster.
Now
these
uses
and
these
reasonable
distance
requirements
have
been
have
been
supported
when
it
comes
to
other
uses
when
it
comes
to
zoning
codes.
J
I
D
E
E
C
Again,
staff
staff
is
reacting
to
the
the
request
from
from
the
city
council
yeah.
E
E
A
And
ultimately,
the
decision
is
going
to
be
made
by
city
council
this
this.
This
planning
commission
might
recommend
approval
of
the
ordinance
that
might
not
recommend
approval
of
the
ordinance,
but
it's
either
way
it's
going
to
go
to
city,
council
and
city
council
will
decide
right,
correct,
okay
and.
I
And
I
would
add,
and
again
not
I'm
not
trying
to
be
argumentative
but
saying
that
a
a
large
constituency
has
complained
about
the
dollar
stores.
Well,
people
made
fun
of
apopka
for
a
hundred
different
reasons,
since
I
believe,
but
is
that
constituency
the
people
who
live
in
the
areas
that
use
these
dollar
stores
or
is
that
a
select
group
of
people
and
and
a
vague
statement
say
well?
The
constituency
said
that
that's
something
the
commissioners
say
when
they
want
something:
okay,.
I
You
know
50
people
come
to
a
council
meeting
and
complain
about
dollar
stores,
then
I'll,
believe
it's
an
uproar
from
what
the
people
of
the
city
want.
I
think
this
is
more
of
I
don't
know
when
to
dressing
and
say
we're
getting
rid
of
dollar
stores
and
then
we'll
we'll
up
the
the
look
and
feel
of
apopka.
Well,
that
comes
with
income
and
growth
that
doesn't
come
with
outlawing
some
particular
store.
So
I'm
just
not
on
board
with
that.
G
When,
when
I
think
back,
we've
gone
through
something
similar,
probably
not
quite
as
grandiose,
there
seemed
to
be
a
spate
of
gasoline
stations.
Oh
there's
one
on
every
block.
We
got
to
stop
this.
Do
you
remember
that.
G
And
we
also
had
a
discussion
on
convenience
stores,
dollar
stores
this.
This
is
not
a
new
discussion.
The
discussion
has
come
before
this
panel
and
gone
to
city
council
before
yep.
So
it's
it's
good
to
weigh
in
it's
good
to
have
options,
but
ultimately
the
people
are
going
to
vote
with
their
dollars.
G
You
know
where
are
they
going
to
spend
their
money
and
I
I
can
think
of
you
know
some
of
the
things
that
might
be
coming
and
think
about
the
west
side
of
town.
You
know:
there's
plans
for
maybe
another
new
gas
station
with
a
convenience
store
attached
in
a
very
congested
area
which
sometimes
I'm
on
the
fringe
of
losing
my
patience,
but
oh
well,.
G
And
we
have
to
try
to
make
everybody
happy
which
is
totally
impossible
in
human
nature.
You
can't
make
everybody
happy,
but
there's
I
don't
see
a
tipping
point
here,
and
so
I
you
know,
I'm
going
to
have
a
hard
time
denying
it
so
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
Yeah.
C
Our
architectural
standards
we
for
the
stores
that
we
do
have
we
do
require
faux
windows
on
blank
walls
and
awnings
and
different
paint
and
different
textures
things
like
that.
So
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
point
where
we're
regulating
the
colors
or
the
size
of
the
sign
or
anything
like
that
other
than
like
down
as
as
michael
mentioned,
there's
down
south,
they
regulate
everything,
some
of
the
plazas.
C
They
tell
you,
you
can
only
have
a
sign,
that's
18,
inches
high
and
40
inches
long,
and
it's
only
one
color
and
they
I
mean
they
regulate
it
like
crazy.
We
aren't
like
that
up
here,
we're
a
little
bit
more
flexible
to
to
be
able
to.
You
can't
regulate
content
of
the
sign,
but
you
can
regulate
the
size
and
the
color
and
things
like
that,
and
even
that
the
color
has
been
debated
also
at
least
this
stage,
because
some
of
them
are
corporate
colors.
So,
but
we
just
we
we
do.
C
We
do
have
regulations
in
regards
to
what
the
building
design
should
have
and
then
it's
up
to
them
to
to
add
those
those
types
of
things
into
the
design
of
the
building
itself.
We've
got
some
good
look
ones.
B
Yeah
and
just
and
just
to
underscore
my
my
point-
it's
just
using
mcdonald's,
for
example,
you
know
they
they've,
they
have
different,
looks
to
their
stores
these
days.
Sometimes
you
go
on.
You
know
some
some
neighborhoods
higher
income
neighborhoods.
It
doesn't
have
the
same
old
mcdonald's.
Look
it's
fancy,
you
know.
Sometimes
you
pick
you
go
by
and
say:
oh,
that
was
mcdonald's.
B
That's
what
I'm
talking
about
that
if
they
can
get
that
kind
of
variation
with
these
stores,
I
feel
much
better
about
them,
but
I
just
I
just
have
an
aversion
to
the
way
they
look
and
where
they
might
show
up
in
apopka,
and
I
can
think
back
when
I
first
came
here.
I
was
a
lot
of
us.
Are
part
of
visioning
apopka.
Wasn't
it
you
know
we
had?
It
was
a
city-wide
effort,
it
was
a
great
effort
and
people
put
in
their.
B
You
know
supplied
input,
and
I
remember
this
was
part
of
that
vision.
You
know
not
to
have
these
kind
of
things
throughout
apopka,
you
know.
So
I'm
not.
You
know
there's
a
need
for
the
stores,
because
it
addresses
the
financial
needs
of
certain
segments
of
the
population
and
they,
and
that
varies
throughout
apopka.
We
know
that
so
they
don't,
they
shouldn't,
have
been
denied
an
opportunity
to
buy
something.
D
B
Well,
that
that's
the
only
thing
I'm
thinking
about,
and
even
in
his
ordinance
it
says
here
the
following
guidelines
are
meant
to
preserve
the
character
of
each
neighborhood.
C
By
the
way,
the
map-
that's
there,
you
know
that
we
didn't
get
the
map
that
shows
the
two
mile
distance
a
lot
of
that
main
corridor.
You
know
that's
where
we
already
have
a
lot
of
these
types
of
stores
that
are
already
there
and
being
able
to
provide
that
type
of
a
service
to
the
people.
There
are
other
areas
that
aren't
provide
that
don't
have
these
stores
yet
that
we
still
would
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
put
this
type
of
a
store
in
that
neighborhood.
C
But
these
you
know
even
even
the
corners
right
here
where
the
dollar
general
dollar
tree
and
family
dollar
are
all
right
in
the
main
downtown
area.
We've
got
three
stores
right
in
the
downtown
that
serves
the
public.
We've
got
three
more
up
off
of
weltrode
that
serves
the
public.
C
We've
got
two
more
out
off
of
piedmont:
wikiva
they're.
There
we've
got
another
one
planned
off
of
it's
in
the
piedmont
plaza
where
the
it's
it's
a
huge
dollar
tree
that
went
in
where
royal
pets
was
so
and
we've
got
a
few
more
on
the
west
side
of
town.
C
So
those
are
those
are
already
areas
that
are
being
served
so
they're,
we
aren't
saying
you
can't
put-
I
mean
they're
there
they're
already
serving
the
public,
there's
an
area
off
of
keene
road,
there's
a
couple
different
spots
on
keene
road
that
aren't
served
so
those
are
basically
outside
of
the
two-mile
radius
they'd
be
able
to
put
a
store,
but
instead
of
two
or
three
of
basically
and
by
the
way,
a
couple
of
these
stores
are
owned
by
the
same
company,
but
they
what
they
do
is
try
to
monopolize
and
put
in
two
of
their
own
stores
and
basically
they're
shutting
out
other
one
of
the
other
stores
or
there's
a
there's
about
three
or
four
different
types
of
stores
that
do
this
so
they're
they're
in
a
battle
with
themselves,
and
we
still
have
this
opportunity
to
provide
this
type
of
a
store
for
our
constituents
and
for
our
and
for
our
public
but
control
it
a
little
bit.
I
Well,
to
touch
upon
a
point
you
made
the
and
then
one
of
the
justifications
here
was.
I
It
is
recognized
as
small
box
discount
stores,
maybe
the
only
feeding
source
of
dry
goods
and
then
small
box
discount
stores
are
difficult
to
repurpose
after
the
store
closed
and
become
a
blight
on
the
community.
Now,
keeping
that
in
mind,
we
have
a
carve
out
in
that
regulation
for
convenience,
for
convenience
stores,
with
gas
or
and
actually
pharmacies.
I
That's
going
in
the
kiva
plaza
is
in
a
plaza,
that's
been
empty
and
mostly
vacant
for
six
or
eight
years
yep.
So
you
know
another
justification
here
that
doesn't
fly.
You
know
they're
hard
to
repurpose,
it's
a
box.
How
hard
is
the
walgreens
to
repurpose,
apparently
not
that
hard
dollar
store
moved
right
in
so
again.
I
just
think
all
this
stuff
is
driven
by
the
market
and
what
people
want.
If
people
don't
buy,
there
they'll
go
away
and
you
know
they're
going
to
be
close
to
the
neighborhood
of
the
people.
I
A
G
Mr
chairman,
we
got
to
vote
so
I'll
recommend
approval
of
ordinance.
Two
eight
eight
four
to
the
apopka
city
council.
A
A
K
H
H
B
A
A
L
L
The
development
review
committee
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
rezoning
to
mues
gt
mixed-use
east
shore
gateway
sub-district,
and
the
recommended
motion
for
this
evening
is
to
find
the
proposed
change
of
zoning
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
area
and
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
change
of
zoning
from
t
transitional
district
to
m.
U
e
s:
gt
mixed
use,
east
shore
gateway
sub-district
for
the
property
owned
by
natura
vista,
llc,
located
south
of
wilkins
street
and
east
of
west
orange
boston
trail.
M
A
N
My
address
is
4348
mcdonald,
glade
road
apopka,
I'm
right
down
the
street
from
where
this
is
going
to
be.
I
would
much
rather
be
a
business.
That's
open
during
the
day
closed
at
night.
That's
not
going
to
happen.
I
understand,
but
if
they're
going
to
rezone
it
to
residents,
I
would
prefer
it
be
town,
homes
or
condos
that
are
sold
because
people
that
have
to
buy
something
take
better
care
of
it.
N
Renters
don't
really
care
about
something
because
it
doesn't
belong
to
them
and
we
all
moved
out
where
we
are
to
kind
of
get
away
from
people
and
now
they're
coming
to
us
and
we'd
kind
of
like
to
be
considered
too
it's
our
safety.
There
are
several
of
us
that
live
alone,
so
we
worry
about
things
like
that
too.
N
A
A
O
Good
evening,
commission,
my
name
is
terry
weatherman.
I
live
at
4125,
wilkins
street,
I'm
adjacent
to
this
property,
and
when
this
was
proposed,
my
concern
was
that
the
access
to
this
property
was
coming
into
wilkins,
which
is
on
wilkins
street,
and
what
appears
to
be
the
problem
with
that.
Is
it
just
just
the
community?
That's
there
now,
which
is,
I
think,
nine
residents
in
that
area.
O
It's
it's
difficult
to
cross
441
and
get
out
in
traffic.
Mr
savino
here
is
proposing,
I
think,
45
dwellings
on
a
three
acre
parcel
which
to
me
that
density
is
a
little
extreme
and
they're
coming
out
on
a
secondary
road
with
with
that
many
dwellings.
So
my
concern-
and
everyone
in
the
in
that
area's
concern
is,
is
just
the
abundance
of
traffic.
That's
going
to
be
in
that
area
trying
to
enter
441,
and
I
had
spoke
to
some
people
in
planning
and
they
haven't.
O
Given
me
any
ideas-
and
I
know
this
is
you
know
premature,
but
my
concern
is
is
is,
is
simply
the
density
that
that
mr
savino
is
trying
to
put
there
versus
what
the
roads
can
accommodate
for
access
and
ingress
and
egress
to
that
property.
So
that's
that's
basically
my
concern
and,
as
I
spoke
to
everyone
in
the
community,
their
their
concern
as
well.
O
Mindy
proposed
some
other
things,
but
I
know
that's
a
little
far-fetched,
but
you
know
rentals
are
rentals
and
you
know
those
are
needed
for,
for
you
know,
dwellings
in
the
area
of
course,
but
and
as
I
stated,
my
concern
is
access
to
the
property
and
and
the
density
that
is
proposed.
Thank
you.
D
A
A
A
G
G
D
A
Okay.
Our
next
item
is
change
of
zoning
akira
estates
from
t
transitional
district
and
pd
plan
development
to
rsf-1b
residential
single
family
district.
Large
lot,
the
owner
is
ever
meadow
llc
village
of
fame.
Llc
applicant
is
corey
n
settler,
p.e
kennedy,
horn
and
associates
locations
on
the
east
side
of
tigers,
drive
and
west
of
jason
doily
parkway,
and
we.
P
P
Q
A
A
F
Good
evening
my
name
is
stacey
russell.
I
live
at
4240,
4247
tiggers
drive
right
behind
the
property
up.
There
are
proposing
to
do
this
development.
I
purchased
my
property
three
years
ago
with
the
understanding
that
nothing
was
going
to
be
behind
behind
me.
I
picked
my
lot
and
I
paid
extra
money
for
that
lot,
so
we
doing
my
family
coming
to
orland
apopka.
F
For
the
first
time,
I
thought
I
was
making
a
wise
choice
as
a
single
woman,
not
having
anything
behind
me
and
be
able
to
raise
my
children.
I
was
not
really
looking
forward
to
it.
I
did
not
know
that
they
were
going
to
be
doing
this
and
now,
knowing
that
they're
going
to
be
putting
so
many
homes
on
that
small
piece
of
property
is
a
little
bit
more
scarier.
F
For
me,
as
a
single,
like
I
said,
a
single
woman
with
young
children
and
knowing
now
just
getting
to
know
my
neighbors
after
three
years,
we're
going
to
have
another.
G
F
It's
and
the
way
that
they're
proposing
it
behind
my
property
through
these
woods
that
were
there
and
then
I
think,
there's
another
lot
on
the
side
of
tigris.
I
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
they're
going
to
squeeze
that
many
homes
into
that
into
that
that
small
lot.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
myself
clear
that
I
I
really
wish
that
they
would
either
open
if
you're
gonna
do
it
make
it
bigger
homes.
So
we
won't
have
so
many
people
behind
us.
F
You
know
I
know
development
needs
to
happen,
but
there's
some
of
us
that
really
want
to
be
protected
and
we
made
a
choice
to
be
there
for
a
reason.
Okay,.
R
R
A
Well,
all
I
can
tell
you,
and
maybe
the
application
can
address
it.
All
I
can
tell
you
at
this
point
is
this:
is
a
change
of
zoning?
What
will
actually
be
built
there
will
will
have
to
come
before
the
city
in
a
separate
proceeding.
So
I
don't
know
that
we
know
that
answer
at
this
point.
At
least
I
don't
know
it.
A
A
I
Bobby,
what
is
the
the
density
of
the?
I
know
this
is
two
per
acre.
What
is
the
density
of
the
properties
adjacent
to
that
behind
it?
They
look
at
a
state.
P
M
P
P
D
C
One
of
the
things
real,
quick,
the
the
lots
from
what
I
I
just
pulled
up,
the
aerials,
the
lots
and
off
of
tigris
they're,
75
or
70
foot
wide
lots
and
the
rs
f1b.
I
believe
the
minimum
is
75
feet,
so
it
is
a
wider.
It
is
a
bigger
lot
if
they
go
that
route.
M
A
A
The
owners
are
mary
and
wade:
hopper
life
estate,
cath,
mary
kathleen
hopper
life
estate,
harold
wayne,
thomas
melanie
lynn,
thomas
mary,
kathleen,
harper,
douglas
matthews,
trust,
anita,
matthews
trust,
george,
a
thomas
sandra
k,
thomas
venus,
stapler,
gail,
marie
stapler,
kenneth,
w
davidson
and
natalie
w
davidson.
The
applicant
is
applica
appian
engineering,
llc
location
is
east
of
south
benion,
road
and
south
of
willie
avenue,
and
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
P
P
The
pd
master
plan
proposes
a
residential
development
consisting
of
a
maximum
allowable
density
of
3.7
dwelling
units
per
acre,
which
is
1.3
units
to
what
less
than
the
maximum
allowable
density
of
5
dwelling
units
per
acre.
The
single
family
lots
range
in
size
from
60
feet
in
width
to
92.5
feet
in
width
lot
areas
range
from
7
500
square
feet
in
width
to
or
7
500
square
feet
to
11
429
square
feet
in
area.
P
The
townhome
units
are
located
on
the
interior
of
the
site
and
are
not
visible
from
the
exterior
of
the
site,
they're
actually
surrounded
by
the
single
family
units,
so
they
are
located
within
the
perim
interior
of
the
site
and
the
perimeter
is
the
single
family
units
they're
not
visible
from
the
exterior
portions
of
the
site.
P
Town
home
units
are
accessed
via
alleyways
and
on-street
parking
is
provided
adjacent
to
the
townhome
units.
Access
to
the
site
is
proposed
via
full
access
located
on
binyon
road
right
and
left
turn
lanes
leading
into
the
site
will
be
provided
along.
Banyan
road
internal
streets
are
dedicated
to
the
public
of
the
95.09
acres.
30.72
are
reserved
for
open
space,
and
this
open
space
includes
a
pool,
cabana
playground,
mixed
use,
active
field,
conservation
tracks,
preservation
of
on-site
cars
features
and
storm
water
retention
ponds.
P
Orange
county
public
schools
has
provided
a
report
that
indicates
capacity
for
the
proposed
development
is
not
available
at
the
elementary
school
level
and
is
deficient
by
49.713
seats
at
the
elementary
school
level,
the
property
is
zoned
for
apopka
elementary.
The
development
review
committee
voted
42
to
recommend
approval
of
the
magnolia
terrorist,
planned
development
master
plan
and
rezoning.
P
Two
members
of
the
drc
cast
descending
votes
on
the
basis
that
they
do
not
view
the
townhome
portion
of
the
development
as
being
consistent
with
the
surrounding
area,
which
has
been
developed
with
single-family
units.
The
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
rezoning
from
t
transitional
and
rsf-1a
to
plan
development.
If
you
have
any
questions,
staff
and
applicant
are
available.
P
B
Any
questions
just
that
I
do
bob
so
this
the
this
property
is
just
north
of
a
piece
of
property
we
approved
last
month.
It
was
the
bronson
center
line
development.
B
That's
all
for
boy
scout
road,
it's
huge,
and
I
I
wonder
why
the
two
members
of
the
drc
didn't
think
it
was
compatible
with
the
other
projects
when,
in
fact,
the
center
line
proposal
has
a
mixture
of
single-family
homes
surrounding
town
houses
on
one
of
their
parcels,
if
not,
two
of
them
sure
that's
right
down
the
street.
We.
D
B
To
so
why
why
did
members
of
the
drc
say
this
didn't
exist?
I
don't
understand.
P
That
I
think
they
primarily
looked
at
the
property
to
the
north.
Here,
I
think
that's
the
mod
helen
subdivision,
which
is
single
family
units
to
the
west.
Over
here
you
have
single
families
to
the
west.
Here
is
the
klonte's
farm
pd.
You
might
recall
that
from
last
spring,
when
that
was
approved,
single-family
units
as
well,
and
that
was
the
basis
of
their
contention-
that
there
were
no
town
homes
within
the
general
vicinity
of
the
property
east
of
on
the
east
side
of
binyan
road.
C
I
P
P
Currently
in
transition
transition
is
almost
like
a
placeholder
from
when
properties
were
annexed
into
the
city.
You
can
see
it's
the
purple
on
the
screen
right.
They
were
not
given
a
zoning
designation,
so
transition
is
like
a
place
over,
so
you
really
can't
do
any
development
within
the
transition
as
it
is
currently.
Okay,.
G
B
But
to
commissioners
a
point
I
believe
at
the
intersection
of
lost
road
and
union
didn't
that
come
in
front
of
us
already
that
we
approved
the
project
correct.
D
A
A
Okay,
any
questions
of
the
album.
No
sir.
Okay!
Thank
you
very
much,
then
we'll
close
the
presentations
and
open
the
public
hearing.
Anyone
wish
to
appear
before
the
commission
on
this
item.
T
Hello,
my
name
is
sean
buck.
I
live
at
2249
scrub,
jay
road,
it's
a
property
just
just
north.
In
the
mond
helen
subdivision,
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
on
the
community
call
about
the
density
and,
like
you
said,
it's
leading
all
out
onto
a
two-lane
road
and
there's
like
a
lot
of
developments
going
up
in
there
right
now
and
then
the
development
that
was
just
recently.
I
think
you
were
talking
about
down
where
on
boy
scout
road
like
where
the
farm
is
is
being
developed
on.
T
So
there's
just
like
a
lot
of
density,
going
in
really
fast
to
this
area
and
part
of
it
was
just.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
like
it,
wasn't
all
being
considered
piecemeal
and
was
being
looked
at
holistically,
I
guess,
because
the
area
is
just
kind
of
turning
into
it's,
it's
very
much
going
from
we're
looking
to
go
from
sort
of
in
a
very
foliage-centric.
T
You
know
sort
of
wildlife-ish
area
to
extremely
developed
very
fast
and
at
least
currently
there's
not
a
lot
of
consideration,
giving
being
given
to
things
like
natural
buffer
yards
or
something
between
developments.
T
T
Yeah
there's
already
a
lot
of
forestry
there,
so
it
seems
like
keeping
a
natural
buffer
between
developments
would
not
be
like
imposing
great
burden
on
the
development
but
yeah.
So
I
don't,
you
know
totally
oppose
the
development,
but
I
think
there
could
be
some
consideration
given
to
that.
D
T
Aspect,
I
suppose
yeah.
S
Engineering
two
two
two
one
lee
road
and
park:
three:
two:
seven,
eight
nine
to
address
a
couple
of
questions
that
are
comments
that
he
brought
up.
You
mentioned
multi-family,
just
to
be
clear.
We
are
not
proposing
multi-family,
there's,
there's
multi-family,
I
think
in
the
ridge
development
to
the
south
of
boy
scout
that
was
approved,
but
we
are
only
single
family.
There
is
no
multi-family
proposal.
I
think
it's
an
avion
point
to
the
west
of
us
and
to
the
south
of
us
in
the
bridge.
S
There
is
multiple
we
are
not
proposing
that
for
natural
buffers,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
doing
the
townhomes
internally,
there's
approximately
14
acres
of
wetland,
that
is
to
the
south,
that
is
the
natural
buffer,
we're
not
proposing
any
impacts
whatsoever,
so
we're
leaving
the
wetlands
intact
as
a
buffer
from
the
existing
lots
that
are
to
the
south
of
the
wetland.
It's
a
very
large
wetland
system
that
actually
goes
underneath
many
roads
and
feeds
into
lake
apopka.
S
We
didn't
want
to
impact
any
of
it
in
order
to
preserve
that
you
kind
of
push
the
density
more
internal
to
the
site
and
wrap
it
with
single
family.
Detached
homes
and
then
internally
do
the
single
family
town
homes
and
that's
why
we
did
that,
so
we
are
providing
a
natural
buffer
to
everything
to
the
south.
S
We
also
have
additional
buffers
wrapping
the
rest
of
the
community
there's
some
five
acre
lots
that
kind
of
front
binion
kind
of
right
across
from
lust
and
we're
providing
a
50-foot
buffer
from
them
from
the
development
and
even
from
the
60-foot
lot.
So
we
are.
We
are
providing
buffers
and
natural
buffers
to
the
adjacent
properties
as
much
as
we
can
to
provide
our
site
plan,
and
the
other
thing
that
was
mentioned
was
piecemealing.
S
We
are
looking
at
traffic
studies
to
make
sure
that
the
improvements
being
done
along
binion
take
into
account
the
klontz
farm
development
they're
already
approved
for
their
improvements
to
binya
road,
which
is
a
county
road.
So,
in
order
to
not
impact
each
other's
left,
turn
lanes
we're
actually
coordinating
on
our
left
turn
lanes
and
right
turn.
Lane
access
points
to
provide
better
access
to
both
developments.
So
we
are
looking
at
it
kind
of
holistically
for
the
area,
and
I
know
your
concern
regarding
lust
road.
I've
done
the
wildlife
tour.
S
I
love
the
wildlife
tour,
especially
with
my
kids.
Around
this
time
of
year.
It's
beautiful,
I
think,
avion
points.
Southern
access
point
is
right:
there
off
lust
close
to
429
right
there
and
that's,
I
think,
that's
really
kind
of
the
429
axis
as
the
buffer.
I
don't
believe
there's
any
development
really
going
on
to
the
to
the
west
of
there.
I
think
it's
really
the
developments
on
the
east
side,
and
so
you
just
have
that
entrance
off
lust
and
then
right
where
it
stops
at
429.
Then
that's
where
the
wildlife
really
starts.
A
C
Actual
paper
paper
side,
but
they
also,
they
also
have
a
trail
system.
That's
going
around
one
of
the
retention
ponds
and
also
on
the
west
on
the
southwest
or
southeastern
side
of
the
development
that
does
go
along
that
the
drop
off
in
the
in
the
wetlands
area
to
the
southeast,
which
is
to
the
northwest
of
the
ridge
area.
So
it's
a
you
know,
they're,
taking
into
account
a
lot
of
the
the
the
natural
area
that
they
can't
build
on,
but
they're
also
making
it
a
kind
of
a
view.
C
Shutter
a
good
accoutrement
to
the
development
itself.
S
C
Southbound
track
the
track
d
and
e
yeah.
S
S
T
Schenbach
2249
scripture-
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear,
like
I
appreciate
all
of
the
like
natural
buffers
to
the
I
guess:
that's
the
east
and
south.
I
guess
part
of
the
issue.
Is
that
there's
just
like
nothing
between
our
two
developments,
so
we're
pretty
much
going
to
just
turn
into
one
giant
mega
development
at
that
point,
and
I
guess
that
that's
the
concern
I'm
putting
forward
okay,
so
there's
one
there.
S
Blue
class
napkin
engineering
221
lee
road
in
the
park
32789
the
other
thing
I
would
want
to
point
out
all
along
the
southern
border
of
the
mont
helen
development.
S
S
A
A
A
Yeah,
the
proposal
is
to
change
it
from
to
plan
development.
Yes,.
P
If
I
could
answer
your
question,
commissioner
lorendo,
the
piece
that
has
the
rsf-1a
is
just
this
little
piece
right
here:
it's
like
a
little
t,
pretty
much
the
remainder
of
the
property.
The
majority
of
the
vast
majority,
I
think,
there's
some
rsf1a
up
here
is
t
right.
So
that's
the
request
to
change
it
from
t
and
rsf1a
to
pd.
P
A
I
A
A
A
Our
location
is
750,
alabama,
alabama
avenue,
and
since
this
is
a
quasi-judicial,
I
would
ask
if
anyone
in
the
audience
seeks
affecting
party
status
and
seeing
none.
I
would
ask
commission
members
if
anyone
has
had
ex
parte
communications
on
this
item
and
hearing,
none
will
proceed
with
a
staff
presentation.
U
Good
evening,
gene
sanchez
with
the
planning
and
zoning
division:
this
is
a
request
to
approve
a
special
exception
to
allow
an
assisted
living
facility
in
the
mud.
Mixed-Use
downtown
zoning
district,
specifically
at
750
alabama
avenue
property,
is
on
the
northwest
corner
of
8th
street
in
alabama
avenue.
Approximately
0.89
acre,
as
shown
in
the
area
of
the
property
there's
already
an
existing
building
on
the
parcel.
U
The
applicant
intends
to
operate
an
assisted
living
facility
at
subject
property.
A
previous
assisted
living
facility
seized
operations
for
more
than
180
days.
On
this
parcel,
which
resulted
in
the
expiration
of
its
non-conforming
status
per
the
land
development
code,
the
applicant
has
worked
with
staff
to
make
improvements
to
bring
the
site
into
compliance
with
current
land
development
code,
such
as
making
access
points
safer.
Easing
internal
traffic
flow,
providing
bicycle
parking
and
relocating
fences
within
property
boundaries
at
the
greatest
extent
practicable.
U
U
Drc
recommends
approval
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
prove
the
to
approve
the
special
exception
to
allow
an
assisted
living
facility
within
the
mixed
use.
Downtown
district
for
750,
album
avenue,
staff
and
applicant
are
available
for
questions.
Okay,.
A
K
Who
are
they
catering
to
mentally
ill
they're
elderly?
Because
when
you
say
assisted
living
facility?
That
could
be
different
types
of
right?.
A
And
miss
if
you
would
give
us
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
please.
V
Sheila
mobley
5395
book
board
drive
I'm
waiting
longevity
health
care
you're
asking
about
assist
assistant
with
assisted
living.
It
has
a
broad
stand,
they're
going
to
be
applying
for
a
standard
license,
so
that
would
be
we.
We
can
cater
to
from
18
years
up
to
100
or,
however
long
they
live.
When
you
ask
about
mental
illness
or
handicapped
elderly,
whoever
they
are
most.
V
Some
have
handicapped
some
have
mental
health,
so
it's
kind
of
hard
to
say
who
it
would
be
catering
to,
because
it's
going
to
be
all
of
who
who's
accessible
for
his
disability
based
on
what
the
state
requirements
are
they
are.
They
are
going
to
be
following
by
the
state
guidelines
of
what's
needed.
They
have
also
put
their
self
with
what
we
call
florida
assistant
living
association,
so
they
can
know
that
they
can
mainly
remain
with
the
standards
of
what
the
state
licensing
is
required.
D
H
J
No
because
you
you
don't
have
any
type
of
financial
interest
within
this
to
this
specific
unit,
to
this
specific
applicant
plus
you're,
only
solely
voting
you're,
only
solely
voting
on
its
use
within
that
provision
of
the
land
development
code
and
not
on
any
issue
relating
within
your
purview
as
under
the
state
licensing
guidelines.
So
because
you
don't
have
any
junior
interest
in
this
property
there,
there
is
no
valid
conflict
of
interest,
which
would
call
for
your
recusal.
J
A
Okay,
all
right,
then
we'll
we'll.
A
G
B
A
Okay.
Our
next
item
is
a
plant
winding
meadows
subdivision.
The
owner
is
the
klepsing
family,
trust,
epilepsy,
bidisor
life
estate,
clemson
joanne
life
estate,
men's
son,
cho,
hong
sik,
kim
and
diak
hua
kim.
The
applicant
is
polti
homes,
company
llc
care
of
aaron,
struckmeyer
location,
east
of
state
route,
429
west
of
plymouth,
sorrento,
road
and
south
of
joey
mccleckin
road.
A
U
Subject:
property
is
located
east
of
state
road,
429,
south
of
plymouth's
rental,
road
and
south
of
joey
mc
of
joey
mcguckin
road.
The
winding
meadow
subdivision
is
a
residential
development
proposing
single-family
detached
homes.
The
development
requires
a
combination
of
seven
parcels
and
will
be
platted
into
subdivision,
consisting
of
179
single-family
detached
units,
recreation
tracks
and
the
stormwater
tract
the
drc
recommends
approval
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
winding
meadows
subdivision
plan.
Steph
and
applicant
are
available
for
questions.
Okay,.
E
U
U
There
is
there's
a
an
access
point
planned
right
here.
If
you
can
recall
that
the
major
development
plan
it's
supposed
to
connect
to
the
planned
road
that
connects
all
the
way
north
to
the
kelly
park
right.
C
Activity
a
little
sooner
than
what
we
thought
we
actually
just
met
with
with
luke
claussen
from
appian,
and
they
have
a
plan
for
the
the
next
subdivision
going
to
the
north
and
you'll
probably
be
seeing
this
plaque
coming
back,
because
the
road
is
actually
going
to
be
shifting
a
little
bit
to
the
to
the
next
section
going.
The
kirk.
Can
I
see
that
it
looks
like
instead
of
having
the
the
access
room
going
up
here.
S
Yeah
luke
class
and
appian
engineering
lee
road
yeah.
Unfortunately,
timing
is
just
not
on
our
side
on
this
one.
We
already
got
construction
plan
approval.
We
actually
just
submitted
for
a
pre-con
to
start
construction,
and
then
we
found
out
that
there
is
a
development
not
directly
to
the
north
but
north
of
joey
mcluckin.
S
That
submitted
for
a
concert
plan
with
the
city
and
their
access
point
lines
up,
not
with
where
we
pointed
but
just
to
the
west,
and
so
in
order
to
accommodate
their
plan
because
they
don't
really
have
they
don't
connect
to
joey
mclaughlin,
where
this
goes
so
in
order
to
connect
with
them.
We're
looking
at
potentially
doing
a
construction
plan
revision
and
probably
coming
back
with
the
revised
flat.
S
S
They're
starting
construction,
hopefully
in
the
next
month
for
this,
yes,
I
can't
speak
to
the
one
to
the
north,
but
I
can't
imagine
the
world
would
take
two
years.
I
just
believe
in
deadlines.
E
S
And
then
there'll
be
a
small
gap
before
you
get
to
the
public
site.
There's
a
indoor
foliage,
but
once
you
get.
C
E
A
E
D
E
A
C
C
I
got
a
little
bit
of
announcement
just
so
that
you
know
tour
southern
investments
over
at
the
city
center.
C
They
we
had
a
nice
long
list
of
different
properties
that
that
the
city
owned
that
they're
slowly
purchasing
and
in
in
in
accordance
with
the
development
or
the
purchase
and
sales
agreement,
they
have
purchased
what
we
commonly
termed
the
apartment
site
at
the
southeast
corner
of
6th
street
in
alabama.
There
is
no
site
plan
for
it,
though,
and
tomorrow
they
should
be
buying
the
site,
that
is
on
the
north
side
of
main
street
or
436
just
to
the
east
of
of
mcgee
and
that's
the
site.
C
That's
about
5.66
acres
and
another,
a
couple
acres
just
to
the
west
of
that.
Next,
to
where
the
incubator
used
to
be,
and
that's
the
site
that
they're
they
they've
come
in
with
a
site
plan
for
a
a
grocery.
So
we
will
more
likely
have
a
downtown
grocer
within
the
next
year.
C
Kind
of
neat-
it's
we're
our
downtown
is
going
really
good.
Also
the
cras
project
for
our
downtown
trail.
That's
about
that
that
two
mile
trail
that
is
just
about
completed
for
the
design
we've
got
to
talk
to
a
couple:
different
property
owners
along
sixth
street,
about
buying
an
extra
foot
or
two
in
order
to
put
the
trail,
but
it'll
connect
the
east
side
of
downtown
to
the
west
side
of
downtown
and
then
also
a
little
a
nice
little
loop
in
the
center
part
of
downtown.
A
C
Very
good
nice
fun
stuff
to
report.
It's
there's
a
lot
going
on
for
our
downtown
and
that's
all
I
got
all.