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From YouTube: Apopka Planning Commission Meeting November 8, 2022
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Apopka Planning Commission Meeting at City Hall on November 8, 2022 at 5:30 PM. To view the meeting agenda visit: https://www.apopka.gov/agenda
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A
A
A
A
Seeing
none
will
move
to
our
first
item
comprehensive
plan,
small
scale,
future
land
use,
Amendment,
Mid,
Florida,
south
owners,
Simpson
D,
Wayne,
Simpson
Susie,
lacks
my
land.
Investment
sessions,
Plymouth
LLC
and
Hill
Lisa
applicant
is
Arco
National
Construction
location
is
the
southwest
corner
of
Peterson
Road
and
State
Road
429.
B
The
applicant
is
also
is
also
applying
to
rezone
the
property
to
Il
light
industrial
zoning
District,
which
is
compatible
with
the
proposed
industrial
future
land
use,
which
will
be
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
The
DRC
recommends
approval.
The
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
transmittal
of
the
future
land
use
map
designation
for
mid-floor
to
South
from
County,
Rural
and
future
land
use
in
progress
to
Industrial
to
the
Florida
Department
of
Economic,
Opportunity
staff
and
applicant
are
available
for
questions.
C
B
D
E
D
E
C
G
F
F
G
F
F
A
C
Mr
chairman
I
find
the
proposed
amendment
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
area
and
recommend
transmittal
of
the
future
land
use
map
designation
from
County
Rural
one
dwelling
unit
per
10
acres,
maximum
and
future
land
use
in
progress
to
Industrial
0.6,
lower
area
ratio,
maximum
to
the
floor.
Florida
Department
of
Economic
Opportunity.
A
Thank
you,
Commission
Washington
do
I
have
a
second
a
second
by
commissioner
Ryan,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
item
two
same
property:
same
applicant
Simpson,
D,
Wayne,
Simpson,
Susie,
La,
Maxie,
land
investment
sessions,
Plymouth
LLC
and
Hill
Lisa
arco-national
construction
is
the
applicant,
the
location,
Southeast
corner
of
Peterson
Road
and
State
Road
429
change
of
zoning.
B
Again,
Gene
Sanchez
with
the
Community
Development
Department.
This
is
a
request
to
recommend
approval
of
the
change
of
zoning
from
T
transitional
and
County
A1
Citrus
rural
zoning
districts
to
Il
light
industrial
zoning
district
from
mid
Florida
south
the
proposed
IL
light
industrial
district
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
area.
Due
to
the
same
zoning
districts
found
on
the
south
and
east
of
the
subject,
property
the
DRC
recommends
approval.
A
I
Fine,
the
proposed
I
make
a
motion
to
find
the
proposed
Mid
Florida
south
changes.
Zoning
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
in
Land
Development
code,
incompatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
areas,
recommending
approval
of
the
proposed
change
of
zoning
from
T
transitional
and
County
A1
Citrus
rural
zoning
districts
to
Il
light
industrial
zoning
District
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
present
and
the
staff
exhibits
and
reports.
Thank.
A
You,
commissioner,
doobie
motion
by
commissioner:
do
me:
do
I
have
a
second
by
commissioner
Washington,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
all
right
item
three
comprehensive
plan:
small
scale,
future
land
use,
Amendment
Tyler,
Crusades
owners,
Gia,
Consultants,
Inc
care
of
Andrew
McCown
applicant
is
Gia
consultancy
and
care
of
Andrew
McCown.
The
location
is
north
and
east
of
U.S
441,
east
of
Apopka
airport
and
west
of
Hermann
Smith
Road
in
the
Sanchez.
B
Subject:
property
is
approximately
40
acres
located
north
and
east
of
us-441,
east
of
Apopka
Airport
Road
and
West
of
hermit
Smith
Road,
a
request
to
assign
a
future
land
use.
Designation
of
mixed
use
is
compatible
with
the
area
because
adjacent
properties
to
the
West
have
the
same
future.
Land
use
designation.
B
F
J
The
property
okay
good
evening,
Commissioners
Andrew
McCown,
with
gai
consultants
in
Orlando
I,
am
the
applicant
and
also
representing
the
developer
and
the
owner
tonight.
To
answer
your
question,
you
had
two
questions
about
karst
and
wetlands:
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
karst
features
on
the
site
yet,
but
I'm
also
not
specifically
aware
of
any
Geotech.
That's
been
done
yet.
That
obviously
will
be
done
as
part
of
the
the
civil
engineering
for
the
site
as
it
moves.
C
G
A
I
So,
whenever
I
was
looking
at
this
this
plan
here
and
this
one
in
the
next
action
item,
it
looks
to
me
like
you're,
asking
to
basically
take
this
from
being
a
rule
where
you
could
have
one
house
per
10
acres.
Let's
say
that's
40
acres,
you
could
have
four
houses
maximum
two.
What
I
would
guess
would
be
a
condominium
or
apartment
complex.
Is
that
correct?
It's.
I
The
thing
that
concerns
me
about
this
is
directly
to
the
West
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
highway
is
an
airport
and
there's
three
things
that
always
cause
citizen
noise.
Complaints
which
is
gun,
ranges,
race,
tracks
and
airports
and
I've
seen
this
repeatedly
where
Apartments
get
built
near
airports,
and
then
there
becomes
public
pressure
to
shut
down
the
airport
and
I
have
grave
concerns
that
that's
going
to
happen
again
in
the
future
in
this
town.
I
If
this
kind
of
complex
and
other
dense
developments
immediately
around
the
airport
are
developed,
because
you
know,
whenever
I
look
at
it,
the
airport
to
me
helps
to
find
a
community.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
makes
Apopka
a
separate
City
along
with
our
own
fire
department
and
our
own
Police
Department.
You
know
an
airport
is
like
a
Civic
area
of
civic,
pride
and
I'm
concerned
that
if
we
have
an
apartment,
complex,
exactly
opposite
of
the
end
of
the
runway,
that
there
will
be
noise
complaints,
do
you
have
any
way
to
mitigate
that.
J
So
I've
not
seen
what
the
what
the
noise
Contours
look
like
around
this
airport
I
can't
imagine
that
they
extend
very
far
beyond
the
the
airport
grounds.
The
the
site
is
not
actually
in
the
line
of
the
landing
or
takeoff
of
the
runway,
so
I
think
just
the
position
being
perpendicular
to
the
airport
is
going
to
help
mitigate
that
some.
J
I
Well,
I
just
have
a
great
interest
in
this
because
having
to
represent
you
know
the
private
property
owner
that
you're,
representing,
as
well
as
the
people
who
own
hangers
over
at
the
airport
and
being
a
pilot
myself
I've
dealt
directly
with
these
kind
of
noise
complaints
before
and
given
that
that
is
to
the
southeast
of
the
runway.
The
runways
are
typically
oriented
in
the
direction
of
the
prevailing
most
common
prevailing
wind,
which
should
be
to
the
Northwest
and
to
the
southeast
and
taking
off
to
the
Northwest.
I
The
the
wind
would
blow
the
sound
directly
over
towards
your
property
and
that
that
just
concerns
me
because
there
is
a
little
bit
of
jet
traffic
out
there
and
one
thing
I
don't
want
to
see,
is
you
know,
20
years
down,
the
road
people
start
complaining.
Oh,
we
need
to
close
this
airport
down
because
there's
too
much
noise
in
the
area
I
want
to
avoid
that.
Now
it's
just
my
opinion.
Okay,.
A
A
Yes,
instead
of
going
to
the
right
over
top
of
that
division,
everything
is
the
left
towards
the
Lakeside
to
try
and
minimize
that
noise
and,
as
you
said,
the
jet
traffic
there
with
that
Runway
is
going
to
be
very
minimal
and
the
prop
Lanes
aren't
quite
as
bad
if
their
pattern
is
opposite
of
this
development,
any
more
questions
of
Staff
or
the
applicant
thanks,
sir
all
right.
Anyone
from
the
public
here
which
should
speak
on
this
matter,
seeing
none
will
bring
it
back
to
the
board
for
a
motion.
K
I'll
make
a
motion
Mr
chairman,
to
find
your
proposed
change
in
future
land
use
from
County
rule
one
dwelling
unit
per
10,
acre
Max
to
mix
use,
15
dwelling
units
per
acre,
1.0
floor
area
ratio
maximum
and
find
the
proposed
amendment
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
and
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
areas.
Recommending
approval
of
the
future
land
use.
Amendment.
Based
on
the
findings
and
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
and
Exhibits.
A
Most
second
by
commissioner
Ryan,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
name
motion
carries
all
right.
Item
number
four
same
people's
property
change
of
Zoning
for
Tyler
Crusades,
gai,
Consultants
care,
Andrew,
McCown
applicant
Gia
consumes
care
of
Mount
Andrew
McCown,
north
and
east
of
US,
441,
east
of
Apopka
airport
and
west
of
Hermann
Smith
Road,
the
Sanchez.
B
Jean
Sanchez
with
the
Community
Development
Department.
This
is
a
request
to
recommend
approval
of
the
change
in
zoning
from
County
A1
and
County
PD
to
m-u-e-sgt
mixed-used
Esure
Gateway
zoning
district
for
Tyler
Crusades,
the
subject
properties
are
currently
vacant
but
adjacent
to
mix
of
uses.
The
mues
GT
mixed-use,
East,
Shore
Gateway
district
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
area
due
to
PD
and
commercial-based
Zoning
District
districts
found
south
and
east
of
the
subject,
property.
B
A
J
A
I
You
I
have
a
question
all
right.
Commissioner.
Do
me
sure
you
may
be
able
to
answer
this
as
well.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you're
wanting
to
put
retail
on
there
as
well
I
think
that's
needed
out
in
that
area,
along
with
the
the
residential,
but
has
there
been
any
discussion
with
the
FAA
whether
those
buildings
would
interfere
with
the
flight
path
or
any
kind
of
I.
I
J
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Stanley
motion
by
commissioner
Stanley
do
I
have
a
second
a
second
by
commissioner
Ryan,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
all
right.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
all
right
item
number
five
comprehensive
plan.
Small
scale
feature
land
use,
Amendment,
1132,
Plymouth,
Sorrento,
Road
owners,
Robert,
grossenbacher,
Scott,
grossenbacher,
Todd,
grossenbacher,
Carolyn,
ditch
trust,
Mary,
Frisbee
and
Elizabeth
Townsend
applicant
of
standard
investment
is
holding
LLC.
The
location
is
1132,
Plymouth,
Sorrento
Road.
L
L
This
is
the
existing
future
land
use
and
the
proposed
future
land
use
and
it
is
compatible
with
the
area
because
of
adjacent
property
to
the
South
that
has
a
future
land
use
designation
of
commercial
as
well
as
properties
west
of
State
Route
429.
The
application
is
being
processed
simultaneously
with
an
application
to
rezone
the
property.
L
Drc
recommends
approval
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
find
the
proposed
change
in
future
land
use
from
County
Rural
to
City
commercial,
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
based
on
the
findings
and
the
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
and
Exhibits.
The
applicant
and
staff
are
here
for
questions.
Thank.
J
Sir,
there
is
a
central
depressional
area
that
is
a
karst
feature,
but
the
Geotech
that
has
been
done
on
this
site
has
indicated
that
it
is
stable
and
the
the
Geotech
has
outlined
the
area
to
stay
outside
of
and
the
concept
plan
that
has
been
provided
and
the
the
Civil
permits
that
will
be
applied
for
later
will
both
comply
with
that.
What.
J
That
what
will
the
setbacks
be?
Yeah
well,
it'll,
be
anything
anything
outboard
of
a
specific
elevation,
so
we
won't
be
able
to
cross
into
a
specific
elevation
that
would
contain
the
karst
feature.
So
it's
I
don't
believe
it's
a
specific
setback,
that's
being
determined,
but
it's
a
it's.
An
elevation.
J
Little
challenging,
isn't
it
it
is
challenging,
but
the
there
is
sufficient
room
on
the
south
and
on
the
east
of
the
depressional
area,
to
have
the
retail
space
with
the
parking
kind
of
surrounding
it,
and
even
even
also
get
some
cross
access
between
the
different
Parcels.
So
there
will
be
entrances
both
on
Plymouth
Sorrento
and
on
South
Fork.
Once
South
Fork
gets
paved
as
part
of
the
Floridian
Town
Center
project,
so
yeah
the
site
does
work
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
it.
J
A
C
Mr,
chairman
and
I
find
the
proposed
change
in
the
future
land
use
from
County
Rural
to
City
commercial
0.25,
floor
area
ratio,
maximum
consistent
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
and
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
areas
recommending
approval
of
the
future
land
use.
Amendment.
Based
on
the
findings
of
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
and
Exhibits.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Washington
a
motion
by
commissioner
Washington
do
I
have
a
second
by
commissioner
Stanley,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
all
right:
change
of
zoning,
same
property,
1132
Plymouth,
Sorrento,
Road
owners,
Robert
grossenbacher,
Scott,
grossenbacher,
Todd,
grossenbacher,
Carolyn,
ditch
and
Mary
frisbee
Elizabeth
Townsend
applicant
of
standard
Investments
holding
LLC.
Let's
read.
L
Roxanne
Reed
with
Community
Development
Department.
This
is
Rec
to
recommend
approval
of
the
change
of
zoning
from
County
A1
Citrus
rural
to
City,
CC
Community,
commercial
for
1132
Plymouth,
Sorrento
Road.
The
property
is
8.39
Acres,
the
existing
zoning.
You
can
see
here
and
then
the
proposed
zoning,
the
subject
property
is
currently
vacant
and
the
community
commercial
zoning
district
is
compatible
with
the
proposed
future.
Land
use,
designation
of
commercial
and
compatible
with
proposed
commercial
development
in
the
area.
L
Drc
has
recommended
approval
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
find
the
change
in
zoning
from
County
A1
Citrus
rural
to
community
commercial,
consistent
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
in
the
exhibits
and
the
applicant
and
staff
are
here
for
questions.
Thank.
K
I'll
make
a
motion
Mr
chairman,
to
find
the
proposed
change
in
zoning
from
County
A1
Citrus
rule
to
CC
Community
commercial,
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
and
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
areas.
Recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
change
of
the
zoning
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
and
Exhibits.
A
B
B
B
The
Pumpkin
Pine
subdivision
major
development
plan
proposes
the
development
of
a
61
lot
subdivision,
consisting
of
single-family
detached
homes.
The
proposed
typical
lot
width
is
80
feet
and
each
unit
will
have
a
minimum
living
area
of
1600
square
feet.
Now,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
scrivener's
error
on
the
staff
report,
saying
it's
400
square
feet
of
living
area.
That's
actually
incorrect.
B
It's
1600.,
the
applicant
proposes
an
amenity
open
space
package
that
consists
of
22
percent
of
the
project
area,
including
both
passive
and
active
Recreation
such
as
walking
trails,
Sports,
Fields
playgrounds
and
picnic
areas
open
space,
amenities
and
storm
water
areas
are
located
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
site.
Adjacent
to
Pumpkin.
Road
access
to
the
development
is
proposed
on
pumpkin,
Pines,
Road
and
emergency
access
is,
is
provided
adjacent
to
Pumpkin
Road,
the
DRC
recommends
approval
and
the
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
major
development
plan.
Staff
and
applicants
are
available
for
questions.
C
G
B
M
So
this
does
your
standard,
not
I
mean
these.
Are
these
have
been
been
done
for
years?
These
are
gated
so
that
you
cannot
drive
through
the
public
cannot
drive
through.
These
are
usually
they're
called
Knox
boxes
or
Knox
locks,
of
which
the
fire
department
has
the
ability
to
open
the
gate
in
order
to
access
the
property
that
also
it's
well
I.
Don't
know
how
they're
particularly
do
it
here,
but
most
of
these
access
areas
which
provide
us
a
stabilized
surface.
So
it's
not
a
row.
B
L
F
G
F
G
G
I
I
got
a
question,
sir.
Now
I
thought
a
gentleman
came
in
that
was
living
by
this
a
couple
months
ago
and
was
concerned
about
he
had
mentioned
the
traffic
going
around
that
curve
at
exceptional
racetrack
style
speeds.
Has
the
city
done
anything
to
mitigate
speeding
and
what's
the
long-term
plan,
to
fix
that
to
make
that
safer.
D
That's
not
our
road
just
start
off
with
that,
but
I
have
coordinated
with
Orange
County
for
four
months
six
months
on
this
project
about
what
we're
going
to
do.
The
road
is
not
changing
shape.
We
can't
straighten
the
road,
the
County's
not
going
to
do
it
because
it
it
doesn't
make
any
sense.
It
would
just
be
way
too
expensive
what
we're
going
to
do
to
make
access
to
this
site
safe
is,
as
you
approach
from
both
directions.
There
will
be
signs
much
like
down
at
Pittman
Road.
D
You
know
the
ones
that
flash
that
warn
you
that
this
ahead
now
there's
a
particular
concern
at
Pond,
Camp,
Pines
Drive,
because
there's
a
school
crossing
there
and
they
have
a
crossing
guard,
so
the
applicant
standing
here
they
understand
that
and
they
want
to
help
us
make
that
safe.
So
what
we're
investigating
right
now
is
the
rapid
flashing
beacons,
much
like
what
we
have
on
Fifth
Street
and
high
visibility
crosswalk
and
then,
in
conjunction
with
those
flashing
lights,
that
warn
you
that
you're
coming
there,
that
should
be
satisfactory.
D
Orange
County
recently
said
something
about
doing
a
safety
study.
You
look
at
a
signorant
or
four-way
stop
warrant
and
what
I've
told
them
is
a
signal
is
not
going
to
Warrant
based
on
the
the
traffic
volumes
and
a
four-way.
Stop
is
not
warranted
when
you
put
a
four-way
stop
in
somewhere
and
it's
not
warranted.
People
tend
to
just
run
the
stop
sign
and
that
creates
more
accidents.
D
It's
more
of
a
safety
issue,
so
I
think
that
we've
come
up
with
a
plan
that,
given
the
design
of
the
road
and
the
limits
of
what
we
can
do,
I
can't
make
people
drive
slower.
We
can
change
the
speed
limit
to
anything
we
want
and
as
long
as
there's
capacity
they're
going
to
drive
what
they
want
and
we
can't
have
PD
out
there
all
the
time
either.
So
I
I
believe
that
the
signage
and
the
the
rapid
flashing
beacons
there
with
the
crossing
guard
we'll
make
this
a
safe
point
of
access.
D
The
gentleman
that
lives
across
the
street
we've
had
several
conversations.
One
of
his
concerns
was
the
length
of
the
turn
line.
The
left
turn
lane
going
in
onto
Punk
and
Pines
from
eastbound
POG
can
Road
we're
going
to
lengthen
that
a
little
bit
and
if
it
turns
out
that,
for
him
he's
having
access
issues,
we
will
address
those
we'll
see
what
we
can
figure
out
to
do.
D
Really,
there's
only
a
problem
there
in
the
morning,
sometimes
in
the
afternoon,
but
mostly
it's
in
the
morning,
but
you
know
we're
all
highly
sensitive
to
traffic
out
on
poncan.
It's
it's
an
evolving
fix
every
time
a
development
like
this
one
comes
in.
We
take
30
feet
of
ride
away
if
the
county
at
some
point,
let's
say
that
once
in
sales
tax
passes
today,
maybe
they'll
put
this
on
the
list
and
wide
in
the
road
straighten
it
out
and
make
the
safety
improvements.
F
I
I
just
have
one
more
comment,
sir
I
Mrs
Richmond.
You
know
I
I,
don't
disagree
with
anything
anything
you're
saying,
but
I
hope
that
whenever
we're
considering
all
these
developments,
that
we
assume
that
we're
going
to
own
those
roads
because
we're
going
to
at
some
point
and
if
we
can
get
ahead
of
the
curve
on
that
now,
I
understand
you
don't
control
the
purse
and
neither
do
I
on
how
to
fix
this
problem,
but
I
hope
we
can
work
together
to
do
so.
D
We
do
and
actually
I
should
start
calling
poncan
Road
our
road
meaning
ours
in
the
counties,
because
we
do
maintain
from
edge
of
pavement
to
the
right-of-way
line
they
maintain
the
road
and
the
storm
water.
Poncan
road
is
now
one
of
those
roads
that
we
will
ever
take
because
it's
a
functionally
classified
road.
We
would
have
to
take
it
by
agreement
and
I
will
tell
you
during
my
tenure
at
the
city.
We
will
I
will
never
recommend
taking
that
road.
It's
it's
too
expensive.
D
We
don't
have
the
resources
to
maintain
it,
but
we
do
maintain
what
we
have
to
and
we
do
support
the
county
if
they
tell
us
it's
on
our
10-year
plan
or
our
Five-Year
Plan
same
thing
with
Plymouth
Sorrento
and
a
lot
of
other
roads
that
are
of
concern
to
you.
It's
non-negotiable
30
feet
are
right
away.
Please
give
that
to
us,
and
so
far
everyone's
just
said.
Yes,
so
one.
F
Of
the
other
things
that
we're
that
we're
doing
that
we
put
in
into
the
requirements
is
Pam
mentioned
earlier
right,
somebody
mentioned
earlier
is
lighting.
Besides,
whatever
subdivision
goes
in
they're
required
to
pay
for
their
own
lighting
interior
and
also
put
in
lighting
along
the
streets
that
they
Frontage,
so
that
way
we're
lighting
up
those,
especially
a
corridor
like
this
it.
F
F
D
Tell
them
I'll
get
to
Orange
County
before
you
go
to
before
you
do
to
protest
that
or
if
they
don't
want
to
put
lights
I
tell
them
tough
I'll
get
to
Orange
County
before
you
and
Orange
County
is
going
to
support
it
all
they
always
do
yeah
so
I
I,
your
point,
I
understand
and-
and
we
treat
everything
like
that,
and
maybe
I
should
not
start
off
by
telling
you
it's
not
our
road.
It's
it's
our
road.
It's
a
shared
concern.
Thank.
A
K
A
G
B
B
The
ridge
parcel
6
is
proposing
his
amid
a
major
develop
I'm.
Sorry,
the
rich
parcel
6
is
located
on
the
Southeast
corner
of
of
Boy
Scout
Road
and
Vineyard
Road,
and
it's
the
southern
portion
of
the
established
plan
development
known
as
The
Ridge
PD.
The
applicant
has
submitted
a
major
development
plan
for
consideration
that
details.
The
development
of
multi-family
and
Commercial
uses
development
is
subject
to
the
standards
and
conditions
set
forth
in
the
in
PD
ordinance
number
2938,
which
was
adopted
in
July
27
2022.
B
The
mdp
proposes
an
apartment
complex
for
304
dwelling
units
in
a
commercial
out
parcel.
The
apartment
complex
is
located
on
parcel
6A
West
adjacent
with
the
proposed
Bronson
Lake
Drive.
The
applicant
is
proposing
64
one-bedroom
units,
208
two-bedroom
units
and
32
three-bedroom
units
parcel
6B
is
the
location
of
the
stormwater
tract
and
future
commercial
development
is
on
the
10.7
Acres
on
parcel
6c
for
the
multi-family
portion.
The
mdp
depicts
a
total
area
of
2.8
acres
for
open
space
and
amenity.
B
The
Mary
Open
Space
Program
includes
a
pool
Clubhouse
and
Recreation
areas
on
the
south
of
parcel.
A
additional
amenities
are
also
planned
for
the
entire
PD
development
on
parcel
8,
which
is
a
little
bit
South,
as
approved
in
the
PD
master
plan
for
the
ridge.
The
proposed
access
points
for
Apostle
6A,
the
multi-family
development
are
on
Boy,
Scout,
Road
and
Bronson
Lake
Drive.
The
commercial
portion
will
undergo
a
separate
development
review
process.
B
G
O
G
A
H
H
This
will
be
just
over
the
429
and
I
I
mean
I
would
guess
the
304
units
are
going
to
be
at
least,
if
not
the
same
as
the
other
four
apartment
complexes
combined
So
within
a
very
very
short
period
of
time,
there'll,
probably
be
a
thousand
to
twelve
hundred
fifty
units
apartment
complexes.
My
guess
is
again:
it's
you
know.
A
car
per
unit
is
probably
one
and
a
half
Cars
per
unit.
As
far
as
you
know,
two
would.
D
The
bottom
line
is
we're
going
to
have
three
East-West
connectors
in
this
area:
you're
going
to
have
a
four-lane,
Harmon,
Road
you're,
going
to
have
signals
at
both
ends
of
Boy
Scout
wherever
Boy
Scout
ends
up
it's
going
to
get
rerouted
on
the
western
end
to
the
South
to
line
up
with
the
ramps
that
are
coming
off
the
429.
There
was
a
public
meeting
last
week
when
cfx
presented
the
pro
project.
D
It's
funded
for
construction
next
year,
yeah
they're
they're
about
to
they
either
started
design
or
they
will
start
in
January
they're
putting
someone
under
contract.
So
that's
actually
happening,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
the
region,
the
road
widenings
the
signals,
the
New
Roads
I
feel
confident
that
we're
going
to
handle
the
traffic
out
there
I
mean
this
was
not
we're
not
taking
this
piecemeal.
We
looked
at
their
whole
project,
so.
C
D
They're
doing
their
preliminary
work
they're
putting
their
utilities
in
and
doing
some
other
things
they're
going
to
make
improvements
to
it.
It's
gonna
they're
going
to
kind
of
tear
it
up
and
then
they're
going
to
put
it
back.
It's
going
to
be
much
nicer
than
it
is
now,
and
it's
not
going
to
seem
like
that
shoulderless.
D
F
D
Going
to
put
turn
lines
at
that
existing
subdivision
Breckenridge
to
help
them
out.
You
know
they
have
a
gate
there
and
when
traffic
backs
up
it
creates
a
prom
for
them.
So
they're
helping
Breckenridge
one
of
the
important
things
that
they're
doing
on
the
Eastern
end
of
Boy
Scout
is
they're
going
to
level
that,
on.
B
D
Change
the
elevation
so
that
every
other
day
a
semi
doesn't
get
stuck
there.
I
know
that
you're
you've
probably
seen
it
and
every
time
it
happens,
I
get
a
call
from
PD
and
they
are
very
unhappy.
They
seem
to
think
that
it's
my
personal
problem
that
that
hasn't
been
fixed
yet,
but
that
is
like
at
the
top
of
their
Improvement
list.
You
know
once
they
get
the
utilities
in
and
start
making
the
other
improvements.
D
That's
the
first
thing
that
they're
going
to
fix
so
I
just
feel
confident
that
in
the
region,
with
the
parallel
facilities,
the
signals
and
other
things
that
are
happening
out
there,
that
traffic
is
going
to
flow
and
we've
been
another
project
that
we're
working
on
with
Orange
County.
So
they
know
what
we're
doing
and
they're
on
board
with
it.
D
D
O
K
A
B
Jean
Sanchez
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
division.
This
is
a
request
to
recommend
approval
of
the
plot
for
Kelly
Park
Crossings,
the
Kelly
Park
Crossings
project
is
located
in
the
southwest
corner
of
State
Road,
429
and
Kelly.
Park
Road
proposes
a
combination
of
five
Parcels
for
mixed-use
development.
The
DRC
recommends
approval.
The
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
Kelly
Park
Crossings
flat,
subject
to
the
reviews
of
the
city
engineer
and
City
surveyor,
and
the
findings
in
the
staff
report.
G
P
P
M
E
Law,
two
and
five
north
Eola
Drive
happy
to
answer
that
question
yeah.
We
are
separately
working
on
with
your
city's
outside
Council
Jake
Schumer,
as
well,
with
Pam
Richmond
on
a
transportation
development
agreement,
and
that
is
going
to
be
processed
to
come
back
before
the
city
council
for
approval.
It's
actually
one
of
two
development
agreements
that
we're
processing
for
this
project,
given
the
magnitude
and
so
we're
working
through
the
mechanics
of
all
the
specific
improvements
that
have
to
be
made
to
Kelly
Park,
as
well
as
to
golden
gem.
G
G
P
L
With
the
Community
Development
Department,
the
request
is
a
recommended
approval
of
the
winding
Meadows
North
single
family,
major
development
plan.
The
location
is
east
of
State
Road
429,
West
of
Plymouth
Sorrento,
Road
and
south
of
Kelly
Park
Road.
The
track
size
is
23.68
Acres.
The
proposed
density
is
3.78
dwelling
units
per
acre,
resulting
in
85
single-family
residences.
The
residential
units
will
have
a
minimum
lot
width
of
34
feet
which
are
rear
loaded
and
the
55
foot
wide
Lots
will
be
front
loaded.
L
The
recommended
motion
is
to
find
the
proposed
winding
Meadows
North
single-family
major
development
plan,
consistent
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
Land
Development
code
and
recommend
approval
of
the
plan
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report.
In
the
exhibits,
the
applicant
and
staff
are
here
for
questions.
Thank.
C
A
A
I
F
That
it
I
can
get
you
the
if,
if
building
permits
change-
and
we
say
this
is
going
to
be
this
amount
and
then
when
they
actually
do
start
pulling
built
building
permits
and
the
building
permits
go
up,
then
we'll
read
into
the
record
a
in
an
amount
that
could
be
different
and
also
building
permits
are
also
they.
They
vary
depending
on
the
square
footage
of
the
home
or
square
footage
of
the
building
itself.
So
there's
really
no
way
to
accurately
do
this.
I
F
I
A
A
F
F
D
D
Yeah,
the
transportation
impact
fees.
You
know
there
are
rules,
they
have
to
be
used
for
capacity
projects
and
they're
supposed
to
be
used
to
offset
the
impacts
of
the
project
that
you're
collecting,
for
which
will
happen
in
this
case,
but
for
the
85
homes,
they'll
pay
at
a
rate
of
3101
per
home
for
now,
they'll
pay
263
585.,
however,
if
before
they
get
to
their
building,
permit
and
I've
raised
the
impact
fees
to
what
they
should
be,
which
will
take
a
single
family
home
up
to
a
little
over
ten
thousand
dollars.
P
D
A
I
have
one
thing
that
I
want
to
enter
in
the
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
golden
gem,
Road
and
I
did
look
at
our
our
Charter
in
our
legal
counsel.
Can
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I,
don't
see
anything
there
where
that's
where
it
would
be
appropriate
for
us
to
approach
Orange
County,
and
we
had
talked
about
pressure
on
Orange
County
and
so
I
I
reached
out
to
Mrs
Torres
who's.
A
The
director
of
Transportation
for
Orange
County
didn't
get
a
response
from
that,
and
then
I
did
look
as
I
told
you
earlier,
commissioner
Ryan
I
went
and
looked
and
the
last
time
that
they
did
an
active
research
or
let's
see
what
they
called
this.
Let
me
be
correct:
Northwest
Orange,
County
traffic
safety,
audit,
District
2.
A
and
then
the
the
findings
that
they
found
for
golden
gem
Road
very
telling
it
basically
gives
the
outline
of
the
road
and
the
Crash
analysis,
and
then
it
says,
recommended
counter
measure
finally
table
lists
areas
for
improvement
of
golden
gem
Road.
The
few
improvements
recommended
were
not
considered
to
be
high
priority.
They
were
low,
cost
low
safety
improvements.
It
was
changing
a
sign
and
installing
two
markers
west
of
the
Double
Arrow
at
the
intersection.
A
So
again,
I
I
would
assume
that
as
a
board,
I
don't
know
that's
appropriate
for
us
to
try
and
apply
pressure,
but
I
guess
as
individuals
to
Mrs
Torres
or
our
commissioner,
because
from
what
I'm
reading
and
I
went
through
the
website
and
I
asked
the
person
that
answered
the
phone.
That
gave
me
the
voicemail
for
Mrs
Torres
and
they
said
that
they
don't
have
any
newer
traffic
studies
from
the
2010.
F
A
A
F
A
D
D
I
I've,
taken
it
a
step
farther
also
I.
Had
a
professional
engineer,
give
me
a
cost
estimate
to
bring
golden
gem
road,
which
it's
not
ponkin,
I'm,
not
going
to
call
it
our
road,
because
it
is
one
of
those
roads.
It's
post
1995.
It
is
a
hundred
percent
County.
We
have
no
maintenance
responsibilities
out
there,
even
though
at
the
Northern
end
we're
fixing
it
as
development
comes
in,
but
to
bring
the
road
up
to
City
standards
because
of
the
way
the
county
built
it.
D
A
I
just
miss
my
point
right,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
saying
that
that
it's
your
fault
or
your
responsibility
and
for
us
to
spend
our
money
to
fix
an
Orange
County
Road
is
ridiculous.
My
point
is:
is
that
and
it's
much
the
same
thing
I
found
when
I
did
the
school
research
that
you
look
at
the
development
of
schools
and
the
research
there's
all
these
other
areas
and
they're
building
new
schools
and
building
new
schools,
and
you
look
at
their
population
density
growth,
it's
less
than
ours!
Well,
why?
E
G
G
G
A
G
A
A
G
Not
necessarily
back
in
2015
when
I
first
got
on
the
Planning
Commission
Mr
David
Moon
brought
a
project
where
the
developer
paid
for
an
intersection
on
429..
Why
did
he
pay
for
that
intersection
and
he
didn't
even-
and
he
didn't
get
any
tolls
at
all,
but
he
paid
for
it
because
it
improved
his
the
value
of
this
property
substantially.
Now
we
we
improved
the
road
on
golden
gem.
Road
it'll
improve
the
property
all
around
there
substantially.
They
need
to
take
part
participate
in.
A
F
F
So
we
we
keep
badgering
them
and
getting
impact
fees,
but
they
are
also
doing
doing
improvements
to
the
road
itself.
Some
of
those
are
what
the
public
sits
up
on
Kelly
Park
Road.
They
they
built
basically
three
quarters
of
the
north-south
road
that
is
just
to
the
west
of
their
property.
That
was
part
of
their
requirement.
They,
they
basically
rebuilt
a
road
and
then
also
did
improvements
to
both
Plymouth
Sorrento
and
portion
of
Kelly
Park
there
and.