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From YouTube: Apopka Planning Commission Meeting June 14, 2022
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Apopka Planning Commission Meeting at City Hall on June 14, 2022 at 5:30 PM. To view the meeting agenda visit: http://www.apopka.net/agenda
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A
A
Today
is
the
united
states
army's
birthday
in
1775
247
years
ago?
I
guess
some
of
you
have
seen
the
flags
posted
everywhere.
I
I
didn't
realize
what
it
was
for
until
I
was
given
the
note.
It
also
commemorates
flag
day
on
this
day
in
1777.
A
A
We
will
have
a
public
speaking
session
after
each
presentation
for
anybody.
That's
here
to
speak
on
a
particular
agenda
item.
If
there's
anybody
here
that
has
something
that's
not
on
the
agenda,
you
are
welcome
to
fill
out
a
card
and
come
and
speak.
Does
anybody
have
anything?
That's
not
on
the
agenda,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
righty?
B
Thank
you,
jim
hick,
community
development,
director
back
in
december
on
december
21st
2011.
B
B
It
run,
runs
north
of
kelly
park
and
then
also
south
of
kelly
park.
There
were,
there
was
another
parcel
right
here,
that's
owned
by
the
wards
that
they
actually
pulled
out
and,
as
a
result,
they
only
connected
this
little
pinpoint
here.
So
it's
kind
of
an
odd
development
of
regional
impact
that
was,
it
was
developed
in
accordance
with
florida
statutes.
B
Unfortunately,
the
the
developer
that
was
originally
putting
all
this
together
did
not
follow
through
with
getting
anybody
to
actually
develop
the
property
and,
as
a
result,
there
were
a
number
of
items
that
were
required
to
be
done.
That
were
never
done,
there's
also
reporting
that
has
to
be
done
annually.
They
never
filed
any
reports
to
the
state.
B
B
This
is
the
kelly
park,
crossings,
development,
regional
impact.
This
is
the
center
point
here,
and
it
goes
out
about
as
far
as
this
for
the
enter
for
the
interchange
itself
and
it
circles
up
to
ontach
road
over
to
the
east
and
then
down
to
appi
lane,
which
is
just
off
of
puma
sorrento
road
on
the
eastern
side.
So
it's
a
big
concentric
circle,
one
mile
in
diameter,
and
this
dri
is
a
large
portion
of
that
because
they
did
not
follow
through
with
what
they
were
supposed
to
do.
B
So
there
are
a
certain
number
of
vested
rights
that
they
do
have
number
of
units
is
only
about
1500.
In
the
kelly
park
interchange,
we
have
a
little
over
9
000
units
that
are
that
are
actually
approved
for
this
area,
and
the
interchange
itself
also
has
about
10
million
square
foot
of
non-residential.
B
There
are
certain
areas
that
can
get
up
to
25
millions
per
acre,
which
is
just
the
center
portion
with
the
village
center
in
this
in
these
areas
on
the
east
and
west
side
of
the
interchange
itself,
and
then
it
gradually
goes
out
to
10
units
and
then
five
units,
and
then
just
outside
is
12
2
dwelling
units
per
acre.
So
far,
we've
had
we've
got
about
eight
different
developments
that
are
going
through
the
the
approval
process.
B
A
few
of
these
you
have
seen
come
through
for
approvals
and,
of
course
those
are
going
on
to
city
council.
But
again
they
can't
do
anything
until
once
until
this
dri
is
is
vacated
about.
I
think
it
was
a
year,
two
years
ago
or
a
year
ago,
the
florida
florida
legislation,
basically
next
development
of
regional
impacts.
They
could
at
this
stage
anybody
could
come
in
and
do
a
development
and
not
have
to
do
a
dri
anymore.
B
So
this
is
kind
of
a
it's
a
lame
duck
type
of
thing
that
is
no
longer
needed
in
in
the
city
of
apopka
and
for
the
development
of
the
kpi
interchange
area.
So
staff
put
together
the
report,
along
with
the
maps
they're
part
of
your
part
of
the
packet,
that
you
had,
the
legal
descriptions
and
the
total
number
of
acres
that
that
is
pulled
up
pulled
from
the
gis
from
orange
county's
property
appraiser
site.
B
So
what
we
are
asking
to
do
is
to
basically
recommend
abandonment
of
the
dri
to
city
council
and
then
city
council.
We've
got
the
schedule
for
tomorrow
evening
at
seven
o'clock
and
then
july
6
would
be
the
second
reading
and
adoption
of
the
ordinance
itself
at
that
point,
then
we
record
it
and
we
send
it
up
to
the
state
and
everything.
B
Correct
correct:
I
I've
had
all
the
property
owners,
basically
emailing
me
or
calling
me
over
the
last
few
weeks.
Are
we
still
on
schedule
to
get
rid
of
this?
You
know
they're
they're,
all
you
know
very
antsy
to
get
get
get
this
going
or
get
this
gone.
I
guess
you'd
say
so
anyway.
Any
other
questions
I
could
the
legal
part.
Obviously
michael
michael's,
a
legal
guy
and
I'm
just
sending
the
message.
You
know.
C
A
D
D
A
A
E
On
july,
21st
2021,
the
city
council
approved
ordinance
number
2858,
which
approved
a
planned
development
master
plan
for
mixed-use
development,
comprising
of
commercial,
industrial
and
residential
uses
on
approximately
366
acres.
The
applicant
is
now
requesting
to
amend
the
ordinance
to
include
the
following
changes
on
the
master
plan
and
development
program
and
add
three
additional
parcels
as
well
as
noting
the
following
parcel
id
ending
in
zero
zero
three
has
been
added
to
the
overall
pd
boundary.
The
parcel
is
referred
to
as
parcel
nine
and
located
north
of
boy
scout
road.
E
The
resid
it
is
approximately
acres
in
size
and
the
residential
development
program
proposes
for
44
single-family,
detached
and
town
home
dwelling
units
parcel
id
ending
in
047
has
been
added
to
the
overall
pd
boundary
as
well.
This
parcel
is
added
to
parcel
7,
which
increases
parcel
7
acreage
from
2.8
acres
to
3.5
acres,
no
increase
to
the
approved
development
plant
program
for
parcel
sevens
being
proposed,
parcel
id
ending
in
one
zero.
Two
has
been
added
to
the
overall
pd
boundary.
E
Also,
this
parcel
is
added
to
parcel
six,
which
increases
parcel
six
acreage
from
28.74
acres
to
28.8
acres.
The
development
program
for
parcel
6
has
been
revised
to
reduce
the
multi-family
use
from
378
dwelling
units
to
304
dwelling
units.
The
remaining
74
multi-family
units
are
transferred
to
parcel
3..
The
pd
development
agreement
exhibit
c
permitted
uses
has
also
been
updated
to
allow
additional
non-residential
uses
on
parcel
6..
E
E
A
You
know
a
clarification,
the
the
parcel
six
revised,
reduce
multi-family
use
and
then
to
the
d
to
304
du,
and
then
it
says
the
next
line
the
pdevelopment
exhibit
see.
Permitted
uses
is
updated
to
allow
non-residential
uses
on
parcel
6.
F
B
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
mention
real
quick
is
the
effect
cfx
is
actually
putting
going
to
be
putting
in
an
interchange
right
off
of
429
and
opinion
road
in
that
location.
So
it'll,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
wanted
to
amend
and
put
in
a
couple
other
uses
that
are
more
applicable
to
an
interchange
area.
So
it's
it
just
made
sense.
Okay,.
F
No
good
evening,
erica
hughes
with
vhb,
we
agree
with
staff's
recommendation,
they've
been
great
to
work
with,
and
we
look
forward
to
continue
working
with
them
as
we
come
in
with
our
development
plan,
so
we're
available
for
any
questions.
If
you
have
any.
A
G
G
Mr
chairman,
I
find
I
know
that
we
find
the
proposed
amendment
to
the
ridge
planned
development
pd
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
land
development
code
and
recommend
approval
of
the
ridge
planned
development.
Pd
master
plan
amendment
based
on
the
findings
and
facts
presented
in
the
staff
report
and
exhibits.
A
A
A
No
no
very
well
subject,
is
a
special
exemption
request
to
allow
the
contractor
storage
yard
in
the
mud,
mixed
juice,
downtown
zoning
district
and
requested
to
approve
the
special
exception
for
the
same.
The
owner
is
ak
florida
real
estate
llc,
the
applicant
is
arrive
at
live
traffic
control,
llc
david
freeze.
E
Gene
sanchez
with
the
planning
and
zoning
division,
this
special
exception
is
a
request
to
allow
contractors
storage
yard
used
in
the
mud,
mixed-use
downtown
zoning
district.
The
property
is
located
at
507,
marvin,
z,
c
xander's
avenue
the
northeast
corner
of
marvin
c
sanders
avenue
and
m.a
board
street
the
subject.
Property
has
a
future
land
use
designation
of
commercial.
E
And
within
the
mud,
zoning
district,
it's
approximately
2.3
acres
in
size
and
has
an
existing
industrial
warehouse.
The
applicant
intends
to
operate
a
contractor
storage
yard,
which
requires
a
special
exception
in
the
mud,
zoning
district.
Any
repair
of
equipment
shall
be
conducted
within
the
enclosed
building
and,
to
the
greatest
greatest
extent,
practicable.
The
applicant
is
required
to
comply
with
all
site
design
and
other
standards,
including
landscaping,
buffer
buffer
yard
requirements.
E
D
A
C
A
This
is
a
special
exception.
Has
anyone
well,
let
me
announce
what
it
is
first
before
I
ask
you:
if
you
talk
to
him
about
it,
he
would
know
who
was
special
exemption
requests
to
allow
heavy
equipment,
sales,
rental,
repair,
servicing
or
storage
in
the
industrial
light
zoning
district,
the
applicant
of
sunbelt
natural
food
distributors,
applicant
s,
m
e
inc,
eric
roche.
A
E
Again,
gene
sanchez
with
the
planning
and
zoning
division:
this
is
a
special
exception
request
to
allow
heavy
equipment,
sales,
rental,
repair,
servicing
or
storage
in
the
il
led
industrial
zoning
district.
The
property
is
located
at
1767
bamboo
court,
the
southeast
corner
of
u.s,
441
and
benbow
court
subject:
property
has
a
future
land
use
designation
of
industrial,
also
within
the
ili
industrial
zoning
district.
E
E
The
applicant
intends
to
operate
heavy
equipment,
sales,
rental,
repair,
servicing
or
storage,
which
requires
a
special
exception
use
permit
within
the
il
zoning
district.
Any
repair
of
equipment
shall
also
be
conducted
within
the
enclosed
building.
They
are
also
required
to
comply
with
all
set
design.
Other
standards,
including
landscaping
buffer
to
the
greatest
extent
practicable.
E
The
applicant,
is
proposing
a
buffer
yard
that
also
exceeds
a
15
foot
wide
landscape
buffer
along
the
perimeter
of
the
outdoor
storage,
mostly
on
the
northern
side
in
the
northern
boundary
for
land
development
code,
section
2.5.1
g4,
a
special
exception
is
required
to
comply
with
these
outlined
items.
Also
in
your
staff
report,
the
drc
recommends
approval.
A
A
E
Is
to
split
parcel
b2
of
the
avian
point
planned
development
to
develop
the
southern
portion
into
an
apartment
complex.
The
pla
is
consistent
with
a
major
development
plan
approved
by
the
city
council
in
november
3rd
2021,
and
the
construction
site
plan
was
also
approved
by
the
development
review
committee
on
november
3rd
2021..
H
A
G
D
A
E
Again:
gene
sanchez
with
the
planning
and
zoning
division:
this
is
a
request
to
recommend
approval
of
the
platform
for
meadowlark
landing
presidential
subdivision
previously
known
as
the
koch
property
subdivision.
Subject.
Properties
are
located
at
262610,
peterson
road
on
the
southeast
corner
of
peterson
road
and
state
road
429,
the
meadowlark
landing
residential
subdivision
platt
proposes
a
total
200
single
family
detached
residential
in
a
single
phase.
The
plat
is
consistent
with
the
major
development
plan
approved
by
city
council
on
june
6
2021.
E
The
construction
site
plan
was
approved
by
the
development
review
committee
on
may
4th
2022
the
drc
recommends
approval.
The
recommended
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
the
meadowlark
landing
residential
subdivision
plant,
subject
to
the
major
development
plan,
reviews
of
the
city,
engineer
and
city
surveyor,
and
the
findings
of
the
staff
report.
Staff
is
available
for
questions.
E
D
A
A
E
Gene
sanchez
with
the
planning
and
zoning
division:
this
is
a
request
to
recommend
approval
of
the
platform.
Parkview
preserve
phases,
one
and
two
subject:
properties
are
located
at
3845
and
4011
golden
gem,
road,
southeast
of
sadler
road
and
within
the
kelly
park,
interchange,
form-based
code
area,
the
parkview
preserve
residential
subdivision
plat
proposes
a
total
of
282
single-family
detached
residential
units
in
two
phases.
E
Plat
is
consistent
with
the
kpi
master
plan
and
major
development
plan
approved
by
city
council
on
july,
1st
2020,
the
construction
site
plan
was
approved
by
the
development
review
committee
on
december.
16
2020
shows
the
proposed
flat
work
for
phase
one,
and
actually
this
one
is
for
phase
one,
and
this
one
is
phase
two.
E
A
A
A
I
We
haven't
created
a
definition
for
hardship.
It's
going
to
come
down.
To
I
mean
we
would
have.
We
would
if
one
is,
if
you're
recommending
that
to
be
an
amendment
to
the
code.
We'll
present
it
to
the
council,
see
if
there's
direction
for
the
code
to
be
amended
in
in
such
a
way
to
define
hardship,
usually
what's
defined
in
variances,
and
we
can
follow
along
what
the
the
common
jurisprudence
is
for
variances.
I
A
And
I
don't
it's
not
the
I
think
the
the
whole
point
of
that
is
is
that
you
know
again
he
might
have
one
definition.
Is
that
really
a
hardship?
It's
an
opinion
thing
and
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
do
that
now.
Granted
it's
a
judgment
thing
on
our
part,
but
then
it
has
the
delineation
that
you
have
to
clearly
show
a
hardship.
A
Well,
that's
a
really
vague
thing:
what's
a
hardship,
you
know
and-
and
I
think
that's
where
it
came
in
because
we
had
we
had
situations
in
the
past
where
we
had
half
of
us
were
okay
with
giving
the
exception
or
the
variance
or
whatever
it
was,
and
then
some
of
the
other
people
here
were
like.
Well,
I
don't
know
what
the
hardship
is.
I
don't
see
any
specific
hardship.
A
A
Because
he's
not
demonstrating
a
hardship,
it's
just
something
he
wants
versus
a
heart.
So
you
see
what
I'm
saying
it's
it's
a
it's
more,
just
like
a
grammatical
thing
to
say
it's
a
hardship.
What
is
it
okay
to
me?
It's
it's
more
simple!
If
we
could
simplify
it,
the
person
comes
in
here
is
asking
for
something:
it's
not
it's
not
odorous
to
the
people
next
door
or
the
neighbors.
It's
not
something
wildly
out
of
the
realm
of
what's
reasonable.
A
Then
we
can
all
use
our
judgment
to
make
a
decision
on
that
and
send
it
to
the
city
council,
but
I
think
we
had
cases
in
the
past
where
we
had
people
that
were
going
yeah,
that's
reasonable.
When
we
do
that,
then
we
had
other
people
on
the
commission
here
who
said
no
there's
no
hardship
demonstrated
which
to
me
is
really
not
fair
to
the
applicant.
You
know
they
need
to
have
an
opportunity
for
us
to
make
that
decision
and
not
base
it
on
something.
A
B
Yeah
self
self-imposed
is
usually
a
little
bit
easier
to
I
mean
if,
if,
if
something,
but
that
still
ends
up
traveling
with
the
property,
if
something
is
very
hilly
and
they
need
to
put
a
certain
size
wall
in
order
to
make
it
a
usable
piece
of
property
that
that's
a
hardship
I
mean,
but
the
hard
part
is
that
it.
It
does
end
up
getting
a
little
bit
subjective
in
terms
of
what
the
site
is
or
what
the
use
actually
is
and
what
it's
next
to
or
what
it's
near.
B
There's
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
end
up
playing
in
with
what
a
variance
can
or
can't
do,
and
that
and
I've
never
been
real
happy
with
a
lot
of
the
language
of
a
variance.
You
know
those
eight
or
nine
things
that
they
have
to
qualify
in
order
to
get
a
variance,
because
most
there's
usually
one
or
two
that
there's
just
no
way
they
can
answer
affirmative
to
or
negative,
depending
on
how
it's
worded
so
yeah.
I
agree.
B
We
need
to
get
get
some
clarification
so
that
it's
it's,
it
can
be
site
specific,
but
it
also
depends
on
what
is
around
the
area,
and
that
would
give
you
some
leniency
in
regards
to
how
you
could
interpret
the
type
of
variants
that
might
be
being
applied
for
the
hard
part.
Is
we
can't
think
of
everything
in
terms
of
what
types
of
development
developments
variants
might
need?
And
that's
that's
one
of
those
things.
B
The
reason
why
we
do
the
glitch
amendments
on
the
land
development
code,
because
things
change,
so
we
might
take
a
shot
at
this
and
need
to
come
back
and
kind
of
tweak
it
again.
But
the
point
is
you're
all
right
we
need
to.
We
need
to
make
it
an
easier
judgment.
Call
for
you
for
p,
for
for
a
variance
versus
you
know.
I
I
also
want
to
caution,
though,
about
defining
hardship
into
a
limited
state,
because
then
you
end
up
boxing
yourself
in
a
corner
when
it
comes
to
taking
into
consideration
all
of
the
facts
based
to
fit
in
within
what
the
criteria
is
I
mean
I
can
we
can
come.
C
I
To
the
rule,
okay,
I
mean
just
on
on
a
quick
glance.
I
mean
seminole
county
has
what
they're
called
what
what
they
have
under
their
site
for
application?
They
actually
have
what
is
a
hardship
and
one
of
the
guide.
I
think
the
guiding
principle
that
this
board
should
follow
is
if
some
special
circumstance
makes
it
difficult
for
a
particular
project
to
meet
the
land
development
code.
A
hardship
may
be
established.
I
A
hardship
generally
occurs
when
the
physical
characteristics
of
a
property
are
such
that
it
cannot
be
used
for
any
purpose
permit
permitted
by
county
codes,
a
hardship
may
be
created
by
the
surroundings,
shape
or
topographical
conditions,
particular
to
that
specific
property.
However,
the
hardship
cannot
be
self-imposed
or
the
result
of
the
property
owner's
own
action.
B
Self-Imposed,
but
that
would
be
if
you
had
a
brand
new
development
like
the
one
with
the
height
regulation
down
off
of
429
and
clarcona.
That
was
self-imposed
right,
but
I
think
you
know
something
like
that.
What
I
mentioned
is
that
you
know
you've
got
a
highway
right
next
to
you,
you've
got
vacant
land
in
it.
You
know
adjacent
and
you've
got
industrial
property
across
the
street,
so
that
I
think,
if
there's.
I
There's
the
wiggle
room
that
you're
you
as
a
board
take
into
consideration,
usually
in
all
my
years
of
practicing
before
local
government
bodies
dealing
with
hardships,
I
mean
the
most
common
principle
of
hardship.
Is
I
own
a
piece
of
land
and
the
way
the
land
is
designed?
I
can't
follow
the
what
the
code
provides.
The
code
permits
for
me
to
do
on
my
property.
I
Those
are
those
physical
characteristics
that,
in
order
for
you
to
benefit
from
the
code
provisions
for
your
zoning
district,
in
which
every
other
property
in
your
surrounding
area
or
under
that
zoning
district
has
these
these
rights
that
you
have
and
your
regulations
that
you're
permitted
to
do
so.
However,
the
physical
characteristics
of
your
lot
do
not
allow
you
to
comply,
there's
nothing
you
can
do
to
legally
comply.
I
can't
have
10
feet
if
I
try
to
put
a
10
foot
setback,
I
can't
build
on
the
lot.
I
That's
where
you
come
and
come
in
with
the
variances,
because
you
need
to
make
adjustments
to
the
code
so
that
you
can
benefit
from
the
same
rights
as
not
necessarily
your
neighbors,
but
those
that
have
those
rights
that
are
that
fall
under
those
abilities
that
fall
under
his
own
zoning
zoning
category
I
mean
we
had.
I
We
had
issues
like
this
in
the
past
winn-dixie
a
lot
or
even
a
lot
of
older
lots
when
you
had
older
plats
from
the
20s
that
they
created
these
25-foot
wide
lots,
and
now
zoning
changes
come
and
now
you've
got
it's
physically
impossible
to
build
on
some
of
these
lots,
so
adjustments
can
be
made
because,
through
no
fault
of
your
own,
you
now
are
the
owner
of
this
of
this
lot
and
you
need
a
variance
in
order
to
permit
you
to
to
construct
what
would
be
normally
permissible
for
any
other
person
within
that
zoning
category.
I
F
D
I
B
A
I
Well,
special
exceptions
are
specifically
enumerated
in
the
code.
These
uses.
Are,
I
mean
correct.
Special
exception
is
different
from
a
variance
I
mean,
that's
so
that
there's
you're
specified
a
special
exception
is
basically
this
use
is
permitted,
but
only
with
an
ex
a
heightened
level
of
scrutiny
on
the
part
of
the
governing
body
to
make
sure
that
you
can
do
this
as
long
as
you
meet
these
standards,
these
usually
they're
objective
standards
that
have
to
be
met
as
opposed
to
a
variance
which
is,
I
can't
meet
the
requirements
of
the
code.
A
You
know
it,
it
seems
like
a
slippery
slope
and
maybe
as
a
board,
we
we
look
at
it
when
an
applicant
says
that
this
is
what
I
want
to
do,
and
I'm
not
allowed
to
do
it
now
and
I'm
asking
for
that.
Maybe
that's.
We
just
consider
that
the
hardship
he's
not
getting
to
use
his
land
as
he
desires.
I
Well,
right,
except
the
careful
is
you're
not
allowed.
The
under
a
variance
variances
as
to
your
use
are
not
permitted.
The
use
has
to
be
what
is
permitted
in
that
zoning
district.
However,
your
ability
to
to
use
your
property
for
that
permitted
use
is
hampered.
It's
not
it's.
It's
the
difficult
something
right.
C
I
Right,
but
the
problem
is
that
that's
75,
the
75
foot
height
is
not
permitted
in
the
zoning
district.
The
the
proper
move
would
be
to
mend
your
zoning
category
to
meet
that
required
to
to
amend
to
an
area
that
would
meet
it
as
opposed
to
it
being
a
you
can't
seek
a
variance
from
your
use.
You
can't
change
the
the
language
and
the
code
to
allow
you
to
have
a
use.
A
A
I
I
Right,
that's
a
that's,
a
use,
variance
which
is
not
permitted
under
the
code,
as
opposed
to
there
being
a
variance
to
allow
a
permitted
use.
The
variance
allows
makes
adjustments
to
the
code
to
allow
to
go
forth
a
permitted
use
not
to
create
an
exception
to
the
code
to
allow
a
use
that
isn't
previously
permitted
and.
I
B
I
Well,
if
we
have
to
amend
the
code
that
has
to
go
to
city
council
now,
however,
if
it's,
if
I'm
providing
a
hardship-
and
then
I
mean
I
can-
I
can
always
based
on
every
application,
because
it
really
is
fluid.
It's
based
on
it's
really
on
a
case-by-case
basis
for
each
variance
application.
We
can
simply
have
a
caveat,
as
we
present
to
remind
and
advise
this
board
a
hardship
shall
be.
I
Hardships
have
been
considered
to
be
this,
and
I
can
always
enumerate
those
and
now
you're
proceeding
forward
as
your
guidance
to
make
your
decision
that
this
is
what
the
hardship
is.
It
really
is
going
to
be.
I
think
the
easiest
thing
to
remember
is
a
hardship
is
really
tied
to
the
physical
characteristics
of
the
land.
C
I
B
Options
that
I'm
looking
at
is
you
know
I've
already.
I
already
do
glitch
amendments
about
about.
You
know
a
couple
times
a
year
is,
I
could
we
know,
there's
a
problem,
and
this
is
one
of
those
things.
That's
a
glitch
amendment
to
me
is
that
we
could
draft
some
language
up
and
we
do
meet
with
city
council
members.
B
Usually
the
you
know
the
week
of
city
council
meetings
and
that's
one
of
those
things
we
could
present
to
each
of
the
members,
and
just
say
this
is
what
we're
looking
at
to
clarify
some
issues
that
we
had
with
the
variance
conditions.
What
do
you
think
and
they'll
probably
say,
okay
and
then
I'll
just
process
it
as
a
glitch
amendment
right.
A
G
Sir
lorenzo
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
I
noticed,
as
I
was
going
through
the
packet
and
that
the
all
the
school
reports
on
you
know
the
guesstimates
as
it
were,
they're
all
out
of
date.
The
numbers
are
wrong
and
ocps
should
be
our
partner,
and
how
can
we
make
an
intelligent
decision
and
based
on
you
know
how
many
people
you're
going
to
try
to
put
in
here
in
this
school-
and
I
know
that
there's.
G
I
think
I
remember
anyway,
that
there
is
a
person
from
ocps
that
either
is
attached
to
planning,
commission
or
city
council
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
they
could
update
things
or
give
us
an
idea,
I
mean
there
was.
There
was
something
that
was
in
there.
That
was
over
a
year
old,
and
I
think
there
was
one
that
was
current,
but
the
rest
of
them
were
old
and
it'd
be
just
helpful
to
have
more
updated
information.
It's
all
amazing.
E
They're
over
a
year
old
and
they
can't
update
it
because
they
can't
ocps,
can't
run
these
numbers
again
in
their
software,
because
if
they
do,
there
will
be
failures
if
they
aren't
already
failed
schools
on
all
of
them
like
in
terms
of
concurrency,
it
messes
it
up.
So
those
numbers
are
when
they're
formulated
when
they
submit
their
concurrency
application
with
ocps,
and
then
they
give
us
a
copy
of
it.
Now,
because
we
don't
exactly
have
scheduling
like
applicants,
wait
to
plat
subdivisions
and
they
have
the
discretion
to
do
that.
F
B
E
Which
is
their
first
step,
concurrency
they've
done
with
planning,
we
don't
allow
them
to
have
any
kind
of
construction
site
plan
approval
that
drc
approves
or
plat
before
they
can
get.
Ocps
concurrency,
which
is
concurrency,
is
the
real
time
numbers
what's
actually
available
at
that
time.
That's
not.
B
So
yeah
yeah
we're
expecting
within
the
next
right
right
now,
according
to
our
development
table
and
our
our
map
that
that
we've
got
we're
expecting
in
the
next
three
to
five
years,
another
five
thousand
units
you
know,
I'm
anywhere
in
it
2.6
or
2.7
persons
per
household.
You
know
we're
looking
like
12
13,
000,
more
people
in
the
next
three
to
five
years.
B
G
B
One
of
the
things
that
ms
larundo
and
I
were
talking
about
earlier,
I
am
going
to
talk
to
somebody
over
at
ocps
and
see
if
we
get
somebody
to
come
in
to
kind
of
give
us
give
you
all
a
kind
of
an
overview
on
the
school
capacity
and
school
concurrency
issues
and
and
how
they.
You
know
some
just
some
of
the
background
of
what
they,
what
they're
working
on
with
with
schools
and
and
how,
how
we
get
to
get
past
the
the
failed
stage.
B
B
B
This
is
christian
thomas.
These
are
one
of
our
new
planner
planner
ones
that
started
a
couple
weeks
ago.
So
we
got,
we
got
two
more
to
replace,
but
gene's
been
holding
it
together
and
he.