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From YouTube: Arcata City Council Meeting - 4/19/2023
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A
B
C
All
right
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
joining
committee,
interviewings
being
held
just
before
our
regular
council
meeting.
For
this
evening.
We
will
be
interviewing
two
candidates
for
two
vacancies
on
the
economic
development
committee
for
terms
ending
September,
30th
2024
and
one
vacancy
on
the
Planning
Commission
for
a
term
ending
March
31st
2027..
Do
we
have
any
public
comment
for
the
special
meeting
to
hold
these
interviews
and
public
comment
all
right,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
the
economic
development
committee.
We
have
Christopher
P,
Alberts
and
Sophia
Ross.
C
We
are
going
to
be
doing
this
process
in
a
candidate,
Forum
style,
so
we'll
start
first
with
Christopher
and
then
the
next
question
Sophia
you'll
go
first.
If
you
can
try
to
keep
your
answers
to
around
a
minute,
that'd
be
fantastic.
We
will
start
with
council
member
Stillman.
B
D
Sure
thank
you
for
having
me
I
am
a
planner
at
shn.
So
I
deal
a
lot
with.
E
F
D
B
G
You
I'm
an
associate
planner
with
leeco
Associates
and
previous
experience
also
includes
working
with
Humboldt
County
as
a
planner
and
as
well
as
Ventura
County
as
a
planner.
A
lot
of
my
experience
comes
with
processing
a
lot
of
land
use
permits.
I've
spent
been
living
in
Arcata
for
about
eight
years
in
total,
eight
to
nine
years.
I
love
this
place
and
I
definitely
see
a
lot
of
great
potential
for
this
place
to
thrive
and
so
being
able
to
partake
in
some
of
the
policies
and
the
recommending
or
I
guess.
G
The
biggest
economic
challenge
I
see
with
Arcata
right
now
is
the
housing
crisis
and
a
lot
of
the
land
right
now
or
in
open
space
is
being
designated
for
residential
or
at
least
being
proposed
for
it,
and
so
being
able
to
propose
more
of
commercial
facilities
and
have
a
limited
space.
I
believe
is.
Arcade
is
one
of
the
biggest
issues
with
economic
growth
right
now.
D
Great
well
I
think
I'll
piggyback
off
of
Christopher
there
and
say
that
I
think
housing
actually
is
a
huge
issue
as
a
student
and
or
have
been
a
student
here
and
now
live
here.
I
know
that
it's
really
difficult
to
gain
housing,
which
I
know,
means
that
it's
hard
to
keep
jobs
and
people
here
in
the
city
and
I
know
that
it's
hard
to
keep
retail
stores
open
and
afford
them.
D
H
Okay,
so
Sophia,
it's
your
turn
to
go
first.
What
is
one
major
initiative
that
the
city
could
Implement?
That
would
improve
economic
conditions?
That's
a
tough
one.
D
I
actually
attended
the
February
meeting
and
they
had
a
presentation
from
I
believe
you'll
have
to
help
me
with
their
names.
I
wear
the
green
vests
around
the
plaza
the
ambassador
program,
and
they
had
a
lovely
presentation
about
initiating
that
program
and
I
think
really
expanding
that
and
helping
reaching
all
segments
of
our
community
and
making
sure
that
they're
heard
and
supported
I
think
if
we
start
there,
I
don't
want
to
say
at
the
bottom,
but
with
all
segments
of
our
community
and
lifting
them
up.
D
That
would
be
a
great
way
to
start
with
developing
more
economic
growth
in
the
city.
Thank.
H
G
Awesome
yeah,
that's
that'd,
be
my
answer
with
that.
One.
A
I
apologize
for
being
a
few
minutes
late,
so
Christopher
or
you
did
it
last
so
I'll
go
to
you
now.
Please
share
any
experience.
You
have
working
with
groups
to
develop
consensus.
D
I
definitely
work
as
a
planner
and
I
present,
often
to
planning
Commissions
in
Crescent,
City,
Shasta,
County,
Point,
Arena
and
areas
like
that.
So
I
definitely
know
how
to
approach
difficult
questions
with
a
calm
collected
demeanor,
while
also
getting
a
point
across
and
I
think
coming
to
a
consensus,
really
means
hearing
everyone
that
is
speaking
and
listening
and
also
standing
firm
on
what
you
believe
and
really
working
together
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
their
point
taken
into
consideration
yeah.
So
that
is
my
experience
with
it.
A
G
Yeah
so
right
now,
I'm
an
associate
Planet,
Lego
Associates,
but
previously,
like
I've
stated
earlier,
I
was
a
plan
over
Humboldt,
County
and
Ventura.
County
and
I
did
a
lot
of
discretionary
processing
and
part
of
that
process
is
a
the
referral
process
and
that's
when
you're
doing
a
lot
of
Outreach
to
outside
agencies
for
any
comments
or
concerns
that
they
may
have
on
the
project.
G
And
then
you
take
those
comments
and
you
implement
them
aligned
to
your
staff
report
and
ensure
that
you're
able
to
kind
of
meet
in
the
middle
and
make
sure
a
project
meets
everybody's
policies
and
regulations
right
now,
I'm
also
completing
my
Master's
in
public
administration,
at
Seaside,
Northridge,
on
with
emphasis
and
management
leadership,
and
a
big
part
of
that
is
working
together
as
groups
and
I've
taken
a
lot
of
classes
with
ethnics
classes
and
morals,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
being
able
to
learn
how
to
understand
people's
feelings
and
not
think
about
it
yourself.
G
But
understanding
the
behavior
in
the
room,
too,
has
been
a
big
key
working
together.
B
C
Does
any
council
member
have
any
other
questions
for
the
EDC
committee
all
right
great,
so
we
will
be
voting
on
this
later
on
in
the
agenda,
but
you're
welcome
to
stay.
We've
got
some
unfunded
liability
conversations.
Some.
C
C
All
right
so
we're
going
to
be
now
moving
on
to
the
Planning
Commission.
We
will
not
be
doing
this
candidate
foreign.
We
will
just
be
asking
Joel
yodowitz
questions.
H
I
I
yes,
I'm,
aware
and
I'm,
particularly
aware
of,
what's
going
on
with
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
workload
that
entails
both
with
the
Gateway
area,
the
general
plan
revision
and
code
amendments
I've
been
following
the
Gateway
plan,
pretty
much
since
I
moved
here
a
little
less
than
two
years
ago.
I
I've
also
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
one
or
more
of
the
Commissioners
just
over
the
course
of
the
last
couple
of
years.
Just
because
of
my
interest
in
what's
going
on
and
appreciate,
the
time
demands
that
it'll
that
it
has
taken,
and
it
will
continue
to
take
to
make
the
the
deadlines
the
council
has
said
they
like
to
to
just
to
see
followed
through
by
the
commission.
I
I
was
a
I'm,
currently
retired,
but
I
was
a
practicing
attorney
for
32
years,
the
last
20
of
which
my
practice
was
devoted
to
land
use
and
Zoning
in
San,
Francisco
and
I'm,
familiar
with
the
the
overall
planning
laws
building
codes.
Yes,
there
are
different
specifics
depending
on
your
jurisdiction,
but
I've
had
a
lot
of
experience
in
reviewing
those
General
plans
representing
clients
before
boards
commissions,
City
councils.
I
C
B
I
So
in
order
to
get
anything
done
either
if
you're
an
opponent
to
a
project
or
you're
a
proponent
of
a
project,
you
have
to
talk
with
one
another
and
come
to
some
resolution,
or
else
you
know
it'll
be
a
you
know:
a
crap
shoot
if
you
try
to
if
things
get
to
a
higher
level
and
get
appealed
or
get
into
litigation.
So
the
only
way
to
really
you
know
get
business
done,
is
through
consensus
building
and
to
be
able
to
come
to
some
agreement.
It
wasn't
always
possible,
but
that
was
always
the
goal.
B
A
You
hi
Joel
I,
you
already
kind
of
answered
this,
so
maybe
we
can
broaden
it
a
little
bit.
But
what
is
your
current
level
of
knowledge
of
the
city's
long-term
planning
efforts,
including
the
Gateway,
and
you
already
addressed
the
Gateway?
But
maybe
you
could
tell
us
a
little
bit
of
other
projects
that
we
have
going
on
long-term
planning.
I
I
There
has
been
workshops
on
the
form-based
code
and
I
think
there's
another
one.
This
Saturday,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
what
am
I
missing
and
and
the
Gateway
area
plan,
you
know
I
know
it's
been
quite
contentious
in
the
community.
People
have
different
viewpoints
about
height
in
particular,
and
I've,
been
following
discussions
both
from
the
community
at
various
meetings,
as
well
as
what
the
Commissioners
have
to
say.
H
I
First
off
one
has
to,
or
I
personally
would
read
the
material
I
from
having
read
what's
gone
on
so
far
with
the
general
plan
updates.
You're
right
I
mean
it's
like
50,
100
or
more
pages,
which
is
a
lot
to
get
through.
I
would
take
notes,
highlight
the
issues
that
I
thought
were
the
most
important
ask
questions
of
a
staff.
If
I
didn't
understand
something,
and
then
do
my
best
to
come
to
some
conclusion
after
I've
been
able
to
synthesize
everything.
H
I
Iona,
how
as
I,
live
not
far
from
K
Street,
so
I,
don't
know
whether
that
is
too
close
to.
You
know
become
involved
in
the
Gateway
area
plan,
but
that's
the
only
property
I
and
right
now
the
only
interest
I
have.
B
I
A
So
there's
a
closing
question,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say:
I
was
really
impressed
that
you
are
not
new
to
being
involved
in
government
and
noted
that
your
chamber
of
commerce,
arcade
of
Main,
Street,
historical
site,
Society
of
Arcata,
Humboldt,
County,
Historical
Society,
and
the
icing
on
the
cake
is
23
years
in
land
use.
So
really
impressive.
A
I
Yeah
I
think
land
use
planning
is
the
biggest
challenge
in
that
the
city
has
immediately
faced
with
because
of
the
demand
for
housing
and
I,
recently
heard
from
a
major
employer
who
was
saying
that
it's
hard
for
them
to
recruit
people
to
the
area
because
there's
no
place
for
either
them
to
stay
or
the
support
staff
to
stay
either
by
purchasing
or
renting
so
for
for
the
the
Vitality
of
the
city.
I
I
think
how
we
need
housing
and
I
want
to
make
Arcata
you
know
better
than
it
is
now
and
expand
and
continue
to
to
be
a
healthy,
viable
community
and
I
think
being
on
the
Planning.
Commission
is
a
wonderful
way
to
contribute.
I
C
B
C
The
city
of
Arcata
acknowledges
that
the
land
we
are
located
on
are
the
unseated
ancestral
lands
of
the
Wyatt
tribe.
The
land
that
Arcata
rests
on
is
known
in
the
wiiat
language
as
Houdini,
meaning
over
in
the
woods
or
among
the
Redwoods
past
actions
by
local
state
and
federal
governments
removed
the
WEA
and
other
indigenous
peoples
from
the
land
and
threatened
to
destroy
their
cultural
practices.
The
city
of
Arcata
acknowledges
the
suiat
community,
the
elders
both
past
and
present,
as
well
as
future
Generations.
C
H
C
Okay,
if
you
wish
to
make
a
comment
during
the
meeting
either
at
the
two
open
public
comment
periods
or
for
an
individual
agenda
item,
there
are
three
ways
to
do.
So,
if
you
are
here
in
person,
please
line
up
behind
the
podium
when
the
item
you
would
like
to
speak
on
is
accepting
public
comment.
If
you
are
logged
into
Zoom
click
raise
your
hand
when
it
is
time
for
public
comment
on
an
item.
C
If
you
wish
to
speak
on,
if
you're
on
the
phone
press
star
9
on
your
phone
to
raise
your
hand
when
it
is
your
turn,
you
will
be
prompted
to
dial
Star
6
on
your
phone
for
each
of
these
items,
we'll
be
taking
person
in
Person
Public,
comment
first
and
then
move
on
to
the
online
comments.
We
will
not
be
going
back
and
forth.
C
So,
if
you're
wanting
to
comment,
please
line
up
at
the
podium
erase
your
electronic
hand
as
soon
as
public
comment
is
requested
for
that
item
and
just
because
I
see
a
lot
of
new
faces
for
the
photos.
First,
open
early
oil
Communications.
We
it's
a
15-minute
time
period.
So
if
there's
cards
over
there
we'll
take
the
first
four
here
and
then
go
to
zoom
and
if
there's
time
we
can
come
back.
So
if
you
wish
to
speak
at
the
first
oral
communication,
go
ahead
and
grab
one
of
those
cards.
C
A
You,
whereas
millions
of
people
bicycle
to
work,
school,
social
Gatherings
and
do
errands,
because
it
is
inexpensive
and
environmentally
sound
form
of
travel,
as
well
as
an
excellent
form
of
exercise
and
family
Recreation
and
whereas
bicycling
addresses
the
global
problems
of
climate
change,
oil
dependence
and
air
and
noise
pollution.
It
reduces
traffic
parking
congestion
and
noise
and
increases
physical
activity
and
public
health,
and
whereas
the
city
of
Arcata
promotes
programs
that
encourages
bicycling
and
educate,
cyclists
and
motorists
on
how
to
share
the
road.
So
all
users
feel
safe.
A
Funding
for
planning,
design
and
construction
of
the
Annie
and
Mary
trail
from
Sunset
Boulevard
to
Humboldt,
Bay,
Municipal
District
park,
and
whereas
in
observation
of
National
Bike
month
and
bike
month,
humble
the
city
and
humble
bike
month,
Coalition
bike
month,
humble.org
encourages
residents
and
visitors
to
participate
in
various
bike
month.
Activities
in
May
to
share
community
support
for
cycling.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
city
council
of
our
city
of
Arcata
that
may
2023
is
bike
month
throughout
Arcata.
The
council
encourages
everyone
to
participate
in
bike
month.
A
E
And
I
would
like
to
add
a
few.
Some
rewards
I
never
thought
how
much
I
would
enjoy
cycling
until
I
moved
to
Akira
cycling
has
become
my
legs.
The
way
I
get
to
work
every
day
has
it
has
become
my
doordash
as
it
carries
all
my
food
has
become
my
canvas
of
art,
as
I
have
seen
amazing
sunsets,
while
riding
it
has
become
my
therapy,
as
it
provides
me
a
sense
of
freedom
and
escaped
from
the
bridges
of
everyday
life.
E
It
has
become
an
exercise
because,
even
though
now
it
is
electric,
it
has
shown
me
that
if
I
can
deal
with
a
heavy
electric
bike
with
Nova
tree
in
my
way
to
fickle,
Hill
I
can't
deal
with
anything
and
finally
has
cycling
has
become
a
way
to
meet
great
people
and
that's
how
much
I
think
so.
I
can
change
them,
can
change
and
shape
someone's
life
and
now
I
want
to
Smith
for
the
mymod,
humble
Collision.
E
E
K
C
L
Councilman
Stillman
has
introduced
me,
but
I'll
introduce
myself
again:
I'm
Dr,
Jeanette,
Cooper
I
am
I,
accept
this
Proclamation
on
behalf
of
the
historical
site.
Society
of
Arcada
I
am
a
board
member
of
that
Society,
but
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
the
Historic
Landmark
committee,
so
I'm
heavily
personally
invested
in
historic
preservation
in
this
community.
L
The
Historic
Society
Society
of
Arcata
was
established
in
1972
to
promote
recognition
of
the
cultural
heritage
of
Arcata.
Our
aim
is
to
identify
and
encourage
the
preservation
of
historically
and
architecturally.
Significant
structures
in
the
city,
identification
and
preservation
is
essential
for
understanding
and
appreciating
where
we
come
from.
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L
The
society's
efforts
are
directed
at
identification
and
preservation
for
the
whole
Community.
When
possible,
we
interact
with
our
community
to
achieve
these
goals.
We
interact
with
the
university,
particularly
by
taking
on
interns,
giving
them
experience
with
museum
museum,
exhibits,
primary
source,
research,
local
history,
architectural
knowledge
and
opportunities
to
publish
in
our
newsletter.
L
We
interact
with
visitors
via
the
Phillips
House
Museum,
and
offer
other
services,
such
as
the
advice
and
the
tours
that
we
provided
to
the
family
nature
Summit.
Last
July,
we
interact
with
our
local
high
schools
who,
whose
musicians
joined
us
at
our
annual
tea
and
provided
the
entertainment
further.
We
hope
to
forge
a
partnership
that
joins
forces
to
have
a
Halloween
event
to
benefit
both
the
music
program
and
our
and
our
Museum
simultaneously.
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We
also
hope
to
join
forces
and
interact
with
them
for
a
variety
of
other
future
events
to
benefit
both.
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We
interact
with
our
residents,
of
course,
by
offering
interpretation
and
guidance
resources
via
our
website,
such
as
the
guides
to
architectural
tours,
and
we
also
in
the
past
have
offered
informational
presentations
to
the
public
and
we
hope
to
do
a
lot
more
of
this.
In
the
future,
we
interact
with
individuals
and
organizations
in
both
Arcata
and
Eureka,
who
share
our
common
interests
of
identification
and
preservation.
L
So,
as
a
member
of
the
Historic
Landmark
committee,
I
just
want
to
advise
you
to
keep
a
look
out
because,
as
we've
just
learned,
preservation
month
is
in
May,
so
we
hope
to
offer
some
chances
for
the
public
to
to
get
more
involved
just
to
stop
and
smell
the
roses
per
se
or
the
the
buildings
right
by
appreciating
them.
So
keep
a
look
out
for
us,
perhaps
at
the
farmers
markets
and
and
we
hope
to
again
collaborate
with
the
high
school
and
as
councilman
Stillman
mentioned
earlier.
So
thank
you.
H
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
that
the
city
of
Arcata,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Arcata,
hereby
recognizes
World
Tai,
Chi
Day
in
the
city
of
Arcata,
on
the
Arcado
Plaza
at
10
pm
on
Saturday
April,
29
2023,
and
encourages
all
residents
to
attend
and
to
visit
worldtaichide.org
to
learn
more
and
I
attended
that
last
year
and
it's
a
really
lovely
event.
So
I
encourage
you
all
to
do
the
same.
I.
M
I
was
just
gonna
say
how
absolutely
delighted
I
was
When.
Stacy
was
mayor
and
she
showed
up
it's
just
so
wonderful
for
the
council
to
support
this,
because
it
really
does
dedicate
itself
not
just
my
classes,
all
the
Tai
Chi
classes
in
the
area
to
us
taking
more
and
more
responsibility
for
our
own
health
and
our
own
well-being,
and
we
know
our
doctors
and
our
nurses
are
over.
The
top.
M
I
have
some
of
them
in
my
classes,
and
my
heart
goes
out
to
the
medical
community,
because
it's
just
a
real
hard
time
for
everyone
to
get
the
right.
Health
balance
right
health
care.
So
this
will
really
help
anybody
fill
in
those
places
where
we
fall
through
the
cracks
of
our
Modern
Health
Care.
No
blaming
of
that
Health
Care
system
because
they're
doing
their
very
very
best
to
meet
incredible
demands,
but
I
think
the
fact
that
this
practice
will
lower
blood
pressure
and
prevent
fall.
M
It's
a
50
reduction
and
I've
had
a
stroke
that
wiped
out
my
vestibular
system.
I
still
am
able
to
walk
around
and
I
think
it's
the
40
Years
of
Tai
Chi,
my
muscle
memory
I'm
not
going
to
brag
because
you
never
know,
but
I'm
I'm,
not
taking
credit
for
that
I'm.
Giving
thanks
so
I
want
to
invite
the
whole
audience
the
whole
Council
and
everybody
to
come
and
play
with
us.
M
It's
the
only
event
that
I
know
of
anyway,
that's
global
and
open
to
absolutely
every
human
being
on
this
planet
and
not
as
a
spectator
sport.
We
have
other
events
that
are
sport,
oriented
that
are
Global,
but
you
can't
participate
in
it.
This
one
starts
way
over
in
I,
think
it's
Australia
and
it
just
flows
across
the
whole
planet,
so
90
countries,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people,
thank
you
for
supporting
it
and
I
hope
to
see
you,
and
this
is
going
to
go
on
my
emails
to
all
the
students
they're
thrilled
too.
H
H
So
next
we
have
arts
and
culture
on
creativity
month,
whereas
the
city
of
Arcata
celebrates
the
role
that
the
Arts
and
creativity
play
in
helping
us
navigate
the
pandemic
amplify
the
need
for
racial
equity
and
highlight
the
power
of
the
Arts
to
change
our
lives
for
the
better
and
whereas
Arts
Arcata
organizations
work
in
Partnership
to
support
the
Arts
and
creativity
in
Arcata
as
an
essential
part
of
our
thriving
community
Through
services,
including
youth
programs,
public
art
initiatives,
artists
and
schools,
the
sanctuary
and
Playhouse
arts,
arts,
Arcata
and
numerous
festivals
and
special
events,
and
whereas
the
playhouse
Arts
Partners
locally,
with
indigenous
and
non-indigenous
local
governments,
non-profits
and
businesses,
to
bring
such
programs
as
migrations
round
story.
H
Oh
boy,
Suki
sonina.
So
sorry,
if
I
destroyed
that
the
Wonder
wagon
and
many
family
fun
events
and
we,
whereas
there
are
numerous
Arts
and
Cultural
organizations
and
sites
throughout
Arcata,
including
29,
Galleries
and
collections
14,
film
and
Performing,
Arts
venues,
38
public
art,
spaces,
21,
community
art,
studio,
classroom
spaces
and
10
annual
artistic
festivals
and
whereas
Arts
culture
and
creativity
month
of
April,
bring
Statewide
awareness
and
advocacy
that
recognizes
the
crucial
role
of
Arts
culture
and
creativity
in
the
lives
of
everyone
in
California.
H
And
whereas
the
city
of
Arcata
recognizes
that
the
Arts
and
creativity
support,
Student
Success
in
lifelong
learning,
provide
key
job
skills
and
bring
joy
to
our
community,
while
strengthening
our
connections
and
now,
therefore,
it
be
proclaimed
that
by
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Arcata,
the
month
of
April
2023
is
Arts
cultural
and
creativity
month
and
encourages
everyone
to
celebrate
the
power
of
the
Arts
in
our
community.
And
to
today.
We
have
Tina
McKenzie
here
to
accept
this.
N
So
for
acknowledging
the
value
that
artists
in
our
community
contribute
to
our
lives
every
single
day,
I'm
standing
in
for
Jackie
dandeno,
who
is
home
with
covet.
Unfortunately,
she
can't
be
here.
She
she
feels
good,
but
still
can't
go
out,
but
the
on
be
it's
on
behalf
of
the
Arcata
Playhouse
and
Playhouse
arts,
and
really
all
the
artists
in
our
community.
N
This
this
area
is
amazing,
so
much
creativity,
so
much
going
on
and
being
a
volunteer
at
the
playhouse
I
have
been
Amazed
by
the
depth
and
breadth
of
the
many
many
programs
that
they
provide.
If
you
aren't
familiar
with
them,
there's
the
family
fun
series:
that's
going
on
right
now
you
can
go
on
the
website,
there's
something
for
everybody
and
every
age.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
this
recognition.
C
Okay
and
then
I'm
going
to
read
the
certificate
of
appreciation
presented
to
Jane
McGuire,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Arcata
hereby
recognizes,
and
thanks
Jane
McGuire
for
her
eight
years
of
service
on
the
Arcata
Parks
and
Recreation
Committee.
In
addition
to
being
a
Committee
Member
Jane
served
as
the
chair
of
the
plaza
Improvement
task
force
in
2018
and
2019.
Jane
is
a
recreational
professional
and
brought
her
knowledge
and
technical
skills
to
the
committee
for
years.
C
Jane
has
volunteered
her
time
outside
the
committee
meetings
to
further
support
staff
in
selection
of
inclusive
and
accessible
Recreation
features
for
city
parks
and
playgrounds.
The
impact
of
her
commitment
to
and
skill
in,
developing
inclusive
play
spaces
will
be
felt
by
the
city
for
years
to
come.
The
council
expresses
its
sincere
appreciation
for
her
guidance,
support
and
work
to
benefit
our
entire
community.
O
C
All
right,
so
this
brings
us
to
early
oral
communication.
The
city
council
values
your
comments.
This
15-minute
time
period
allows
people
to
address
the
Council
on
matters
and
not
on
the
agenda.
Please
know
that,
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
the
council
cannot
discuss
or
take
action
on
items
that
are
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
At
the
end
of
all
oral
Communications,
the
council
May
respond
to
statements
supported
requests
that
require
Council
action
will
be
set
for
a
future
identity
topic.
A
reviews
or
referred
to
staff
speakers
may
be
limited
to
two
minutes.
C
There
will
also
be
time
for
the
public
to
comment
specifically
on
each
agenda
item
and
again
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
under
item
number
12..
So
if
you've
grabbed
a
card,
please
make
your
way
to
the
podium.
Raise
your
hand
if
you're
on
Zoom
or
press
star
nine,
if
you're
calling
it
by
phone
and
wish
to
make
a
comment,
we'll
take
the
first
four
here
and
then
go
to
zoom.
P
Hello
to
Castle
and
to
staff,
my
name
is
James
Becker
and
I've
been
working
with
the
community
members
to
circulate
the
petition
for
L
Street
pathway
to
become
a
permanent
linear,
Park
and
the
language
is
as
follows.
We
support
the
existing
L
Street
bicycle
pedestrian
Pathway
to
be
officially
designated
as
a
linear
Park
from
Alliance
road
to
Samoa
Boulevard,
and
that
this
linear
Park
be
preserved
and
enhanced
as
a
green
space
for
recreation
play
and
Community.
P
All
around
Arcata
online
signatures
are
up
to
125,
including
primarily
Arcata
residents.
Many
have
walked
the
path
and
understand
what
will
be
permanently
lost
by
Paving
over
Open
Spaces.
They
also
appreciate
what
is
possible
by
utilizing
those
Open
Spaces
with
the
linear
Park.
With
that
said,
I
want
to
update
you
on
the
petition.
We
are
presently
at
669
signers
and
finally,
the
scroll
is
553
and
it
represented
what
was
given
to
the
planning
Commissioners.
It
has
increased
by
100
to
669..
Thank
you.
F
Good
evening,
I
wanted
to
address
the
March
28th
when
we
had
our
joint
session
sea
level
rise
thanks
for
putting
that
together,
it's
just
too
bad
that
we
didn't
have
more
time,
because
we
had
you
know
even
on
the
city's
list
of
questions
to
ask.
F
There
are
still
quite
a
few,
and
this
is
such
an
important
subject
and
I
also
feel
it's
unfortunate
that
it
didn't
happen
like
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
because
you
know
it's
it's
sort
of
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
on
not
only
the
city
council
but
also
the
Planning
Commission.
A
lot
of
money
has
been
invested
in
in
this
with
all
the
way
from
bed
Noble
to
plan,
West
I,
don't
know:
700
000
there,
plus
staff
and
City
time
so
I'm,
not
seeing
anybody
asking
some
tough
questions
about
this.
F
I
mean
I,
just
think
and
I
think
the
public
is
bringing
this
up
quite
a
bit
that
you're
still
quite
a
bit
on
board
on
this
and
I
I've
read
a
lot
of
the
submitted
letters.
We've
had
PhD
professors
from
Cal,
Poly
sea
level
rise.
They
really
questioned
the
development
come
into
the
gateway
because
of
the
area
we've
had
experts
from
there
that
have
written
from
the
standpoint
of
earthquake
tsunami,
so
it
just
seems
like
who
are
in
this
trap
that
we're
not
going
to
reverse
ourselves.
F
There's
a
lot
of
pressure
on
the
Planning
Commission
I'm,
not
too
happy
with
what's
happening
there
from
the
standpoint
that
you
know
you
you
show
up,
and
you
only
get
two
minutes
to
talk.
You
know
that
is
not
very
Democratic.
It's
not
a
good
process.
It's
not
going
to
turn
into
good
results.
I,
don't
know
whether
this
was
your
intentions
or
or
what,
but
it's
just
it's
going
to
turn
off
a
lot
of
people
and
I
would
suggest
revisiting
that
and
coming
up
with
a
better
plan.
Thank
you.
R
Hello
I'll
start
out
by
thanking
you
for
your
service
to
the
community.
I
know
it's
a
job
anyway.
I
want
to
just
talk
today
about
the
conversation
that
we're
having
in
Arcata
regarding
housing.
R
You'll
note
in
this
chart
I
just
handed
out
and
there
are
some
available
for
people
if
you
want
to
see
them
what's
interesting
in
the
chart.
I
just
wanted
to
go
through
50
years
from
1970
to
20
2020,
basically
2021,
the
town
population,
the
enrollment
at
Humboldt,
State
or
Cal,
Poly
Humboldt
and
the
housing
units
that
were
built
by
that
decades
end
and
just
to
quickly
review
this.
Since
we
don't
have
much
time
in
1970,
there
was
just
under
9
000
people
that
lived
in
Arcata.
R
There
was
5
200
students
and
we
had
a
base
of
about
four
thousand
houses,
and
then
you
can
go
up
to
1990.
We
grew
in
population
we
have
just
under
sixteen
thousand
fifteen
thousand
six
hundred.
It
got
up
to
75
or
600
students
during
that
decade,
and
there
was
about
27
extra.
You
know
houses
added,
so
we
had
about
67
000,
100
houses.
R
So
anyway.
My
point
here
isn't
so
much.
This
it's
that
actually,
if
you
note,
we've
had
2.3
people
per
house
all
through
these
decades,
so
I
just
find
that
interesting,
but
I
don't
want
to
so
we're
doing.
Most
of
our
planning.
Most
of
the
hearing
that
you
hear
about
is
we're
talking
about
student
housing
and
I.
R
Just
what
I
think
this
points
out
is
that
there's
population
housing,
that's
not
being
discussed
and
so
I,
just
since
I
only
have
20
seconds
left
I
want
to
mention
Senate
bill
nine
I'm
promoting
this,
because
this
is
something
the
state
did
a
year
ago
and
it
opens
up
our
Neighborhood
Housing
to
people
who
want
to
there's
no
forcing
there's
nothing.
Just
people
who
want
to
and
I
think
we
should
have
an
ad
hoc
Committee
in
this
community
that
looks
at
Senate,
Bill
9
looks
at
the
community
development
plans,
put
something
together
for
this
community.
S
Good
evening
I
know
many
of
you,
or
perhaps
all
of
you
watch
the
Planning
Commission
meetings
at
the
meeting
Tuesday
last
week
at
April
11th.
It
was
good
to
see
many
important
topics
were
discussed,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
progress,
there's
also
a
shift
in
the
number
of
people
involved,
the
participants
at
the
meeting.
All
in
all,
there
are
20
people
who
spoke
just
a
far
different
from
the
usual
three
or
four
or
five
people.
There's
a
high
level
of
Engagement.
It's
good
to
see.
At
the
meeting.
S
S
The
the
letter
was
not
addressed
the
Planning
Commission,
but
it
was
distributed
to
them.
The
I've
stated
at
the
plan
Commission
meeting
that
I
have
three
primary
goals.
S
One
is
to
see
what
we
can
call
Workforce
housing
built
in
Arcata
for
people
who
are
perhaps
in
the
20
to
35
an
hour
range
who
have
difficulty
finding
affordable
housing
for
their
budget.
Second,
is
home
ownership
opportunities,
which
is
a
another
difficult
matter
for
people
who
want
to
gain
equity
in
their
home
in
the
last
third.
One
is
very
important
to
me:
is
a
linear
Park
in
the
L
Street
Corridor,
and
that's
what
I'll
continue
to
work
on
thanks
very
much.
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Joanna
Gary
and
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
a
lot
of
issues
in
our
town
and
I
walked
through
the
plaza
today
and
I.
Think
I
saw
more
dogs
than
people
on
The
Plaza
I
just
want
to
alert
you
to
that
reality
and
I
was
watching
a
webcast
on
a
book
called
it's
not
too
late
or
not
too
late
by
Rebecca
solnit.
That
just
came
out
and
it's
about
the
climate
reality.
But
in
the
discussion
on
this
webcast
with
others,
it
wasn't
just
about
climate
issues.
U
U
We
need
to
be
brave.
We
need
to
step
out
of
line
in
regards
to
everybody
else's
conformity
in
the
fear
and,
as
we
think
about
all
these
issues
and
I'll
start
with
the
unhoused
and
all
the
vulnerable
people
I've
had
to
encounter
and
animals
I've
had
to
encounter
lately.
We
need
to
be
Brave
and
Bold
and
not
just
go
along
with
what
everybody
else
is
doing.
Humboldt
County
in
Arcata
can
be
in
the
Vanguard
I
heard
the
talk
at
godwood
days
about
how
the
marsh
was
created
50
years
ago.
U
Historically,
a
renowned
worldwide
thing
in
our
community
that
everybody
around
the
world
admired
and
appreciated.
It's
now,
a
little
dated
now
and
with
sea
level
rise.
We
need
to
think
about
some
Alternatives,
but
that's
where
the
bravery
and
the
courage
and
the
decisiveness
and
the
non-fearing
leadership
is
going
to
have
to
be
so.
Thank
you.
C
V
My
name
is
Perry
Phillips
and
I'm.
A
resident
of
Arcata
I
just
became
aware
that
the
city
of
Arcata
has
approved
a
residential
rental
inspection
program.
Is
that
correct,
I
assume
it
is?
It's
been
posted
on
your
website
as
of
March?
1St
I
suppose
unanimously
approve
this.
According
to
this
document
and
I'm
curious
about
what
the
city
is
planning
to
do,
I
I,
assume
you're.
V
A
database
is
that
correct,
you're,
constructing
a
database
of
all
rental
property
in
this
area
and
I
guess
I'm
concerned
you
know,
is
the
purpose
to
regulate
you're
going
to
step
in
and
do
what
other
communities
don't
do
by
regulating
the
rent
housing
rental
market?
Is
that
the
idea
you
know
you're
saying
it's
for
health
and
safety,
but
I've
been
on
resident
of
a
lot
of
different
states
and
cities
and
as
a
landlord
I
I've
been
puzzled
that
the
city
of
Arcata
is
going
to
try
to
you
know,
enforce.
V
What
will
it
be?
It
seems
to
be
you're
saying
that
I'm
not
sure
from
actually
from
this
document
greater
compliance
of
health
and
safety
standards
on
long-term
rental
property.
I,
don't
know
what
that
means.
Is
that
fire
inspections
or
is
it?
You
know,
I,
don't
know
insects
and
rats
that
you're
concerned
about,
or
is
it
a
database
that
you're
constructing
in
order
to
create
a
larger
tax
pace?
Is
that
what's
I
I
don't
know
what's
going
on?
V
C
Thank
you
so
much
all
right.
We
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
consent
calendar.
So
all
matters
on
the
consent.
Calendar
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
city
council
and
are
enacted
in
one
motion.
There
is
no
separate
discussion
of
any
of
these
items
if
discussion
is
required,
that
each
item
is
removed
from
the
consent,
calendar
and
considered
separately
at
the
end
of
the
reading
of
the
consent,
calendar
council,
members
or
members
of
the
public
can
request
an
item
be
removed.
First
separate
discussion.
C
All
right,
a
is
bi-weekly
report
on
disbursements.
B
is
to
ratify
employment
agreement
with
Emily
R
sinkhorn
for
director
of
Environmental
Services
for
the
term
of
May
3rd
2023
through
May,
2nd
2028
C,
is
to
adopt
resolution
number
223-51,
approving
an
application
to
the
clean
California
local
grant
program
for
the
Valley,
West
connectivity
and
beautification
project
and
authorize
the
city
manager
to
execute
all
applicable
documents.
C
010521-Lts-3
authorize
the
city
manager
to
increase
the
contract
amount
by
up
to
sixteen
thousand
dollars,
two
percent
for
a
total
amount
not
to
exceed
815
999.24,
to
allow
for
any
unforeseen
contingencies
and
authorize
the
city
manager
to
execute
all
applicable
documents
and
F
approved,
amended
and
restated,
unsecured
note
between
Open
Door,
community
health,
centers
and
the
City
of
Arcata.
Do
any
council
members
wish
to
pull
anything
from
the
consent
calendar.
A
So
I
checked
with
staff,
and
my
understanding
is
that
I
don't
necessarily
need
to
pull
item
C,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
I
will
recuse
myself
from
the
consent
calendar
adoption
vote.
Thank.
T
C
Okay
d:
all
right
so
can
I
get
a
motion,
so
we
have
a
b
c
and
F
I
move
for
approval
circuit.
All
right.
We
have
a
motion
from
council
member
Stillman
and
a
second
from
council
member
Atkins
Salazar.
And
can
we
get
a
roll
call
vote
all
in
favor,
hi,
all
right,
Joanne
d.
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Joanna
Gary
I,
don't
have
children,
but
I
can't
believe
the
cost
of
a
playground.
These
days,
that's
all
I
can
say,
but
what
I
also
want
to
say
is
Redwood.
Park
is
a
beautiful
place
and
it's
will
undoubtedly
be
a
wonderful
playground,
but
people
who
have
children
and
don't
have
a
vehicle
there's
no
bus
service
up
there.
U
It's
a
very
dangerous
road
to
walk
to
and
I
just
really
want
us
to
consider
all
the
factors
in
access
to
such
an
expensive
yet
will
probably
be
a
delightful
playground,
and
we
really
need
to
think
broader.
Sometimes
when
we
do
these
projects,
because
I
really
want
the
young
people
of
this
community
to
be
able
to
go
to
that
playground
on
a
regular
basis
and
not
and
safely
get
to
the
park
and
if
bus
service
or
some
sort
of
shuttle
needs
to
be
in
put
in
place.
U
C
J
C
Aye
all
right
and
for
item
D,
sorry
out
of
order,
go
ahead.
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
Carol
Graham
and
I
am
the
property
owner
that's
immediately
Downstream
from
the
Carlson
Park
and
my
property
is
in
a
sphere
of
influence
for
Arcata
I
own
40,
acres
on
the
south
side
of
the
river
and
I
own
40
acres,
and
include
the
River
Bar
and
of
some
River
Forest
on
the
other
side,
since
starting
planning
for
the
zanzi
property,
I
have
repeatedly
asked
to
be
contacted
when
the
planning
for
the
park
was
discussed.
Q
My
guess
is
this
is
at
least
once
a
year
that
I
have
contacted
the
city.
Last
September
I
again
contacted
the
parks
and
rec
department
and
met
with
City
staff
on
property
and
I
was
shown
a
map
that
and
told
where
the
developed
part
of
the
park
should
be
as
I
remember
the
map,
it
was
not
specific
and
I
asked
that
the
trails
that
led
to
my
property
be
moved
so
that
they
didn't
lead
to
my
property
and
that
has
been
done.
I
have
also
talked.
Q
Q
I
was
surprised
to
see
it
on
the
news
that
Carlson
Park
had
received
a
large
Grant
again
I
contacted
the
parks
and
rec
department
and
again
I
was
met
by
staff,
and
the
map
that
I
was
shown
was
very
specific.
It
had
playgrounds
and
parks,
and
things
like
that
and
you
know
they
got
equipment
and
parking.
I
asked
why
I
hadn't
been
contacted
and
the
staff
said
that
they
had
addressed
my
concerns.
F
Q
Q
The
park
requires
more
planning
than
just
the
bathroom
and
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
the
city.
Has
the
city
contacted
other
small
towns
with
Parks
no
river
parks
to
find
out
how
to
minimize
the
effects
of
the
parks
on
up
River?
You
know
on
Riverside
property
and
the
develop
and
the
undeveloped
Riverside
Forest,
like
my
property.
Q
What
what
is
the
city
of
arcade
going
to
do
to
help
the
property
owners
on
the
on
and
near
the
forest?
The
situation
is
very
much
very
different
than
any
other
Park
in
Arcata,
so
I
I,
you
know,
I
just
feel
that
noticing
is
an
issue
all
the
time
all
the
property
owners
should
have
been
contacted.
A
meeting
should
have
been
done,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
listening.
Q
I
I'd
have
no
objection
to
the
part
to
the
you
know
to
what's
going
to
be
there,
but
it
is
going
to
bring
people,
and
you
know
that's
the
planning
that
needs
to
be
done.
What's
the
parking
going
to
look
like,
what's
the
boating
going
to
look
like
what,
how
are
you
going
to
keep
people
off
my
property
and
other
people's
property?
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
C
Second,
that
all
right
we've
got
another
motion
from
council
member
Stillman
and
a
second
from
council
member
gonzalezar,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye,
all
right,
we're
moving
on
to
Old
business
and
we
are
going
to
receive
a
presentation
from
go,
invest
on
addressing
pension
unfunded
liability.
So
last
month
we
heard
an
update
on
our
pension
liability,
which
is
something
that
every
city
and
county
in
California
is
faced
with.
Fortunately,
for
Al
Qaeda,
we
don't
carry
significant
debt
in
other
areas.
C
Tonight
we're
going
to
review
in
more
detail
what
options
we
have
as
a
community
to
be
proactive
towards
paying
off
this
liability
and
will
hopefully
be
making
a
recommendation
on
a
strategy
for
staff
to
include
in
the
upcoming
budget
we're
not
going
to
be
approving
the
final
payment
until
we
have
the
whole
budget
before
us.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
So
we
can
see
what
trade-offs
need
to
be
made
so
Tabitha
our
finance
director,
Tabitha
Miller,
that
was
so
fortunate
to
have.
Let
me
get
a
staff
report.
Yes
thank.
W
You
vice
mayor
city
council,
just
a
brief
introduction
before
before
I
turn
it
back
over
to
Ira,
with
gov,
invest
just
a
reminder
that
we
had
a
an
initial
conversation
with
them
on
March,
15th
and
unfortunately
learned
that
we
are
looking
at
about
29.6
million
dollars
in
pension
unfunded
pension
obligations
for
the
city
of
Arcata
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
this
is
not
unique
to
us.
W
This
is
really
a
Statewide
issue
and
even
beyond
that,
it's
it's
Nationwide
and
if
you've
paid
any
attention
to
the
protests
that
have
been
happening
in
France,
it's
also
a
sort
of
a
universal
issue
which
is
just
the
challenge
of
how
to
pay
for
these
very
large
pension
obligations
and
not
and
the
earnings
that
are
not
kind
of
keeping
up
with
it.
It
is
just
a
reminder.
This
is
in
the
staff
report,
but
it
is
by
far
our
largest
debt.
X
Okay,
thanks
again
for
having
me
back
to
talk
about
addressing
pension
unfunded
liability.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
today
is
spend
a
little
time
with
a
quick
recap
of
what
we
talked
about.
The
last
meeting.
X
Talk
about
with
pension
projections,
talk
about
what's
going
to
happen
to
your
pension
costs.
If
future
experience
matches
Calpers
assumptions
so
see
where
things
are
going
and
then
talk
about
how
to
address
the
unfunded
liability
as
we
go
so
we're
basically
focusing
on
three
metrics
here
for
your
for
your
pension
fund
unfunded
liability,
which
are
plan
assets,
sorry
plan
liabilities,
minus
plan
assets,
that's
a
measure
of
where
you
are
right
now
in
your
funding
of
the
pension
plan,
funded
percentage,
similar
way
of
looking
at
at
this.
It's
plan
assets
divided
by
plan
liabilities.
X
So,
instead
of
being
an
absolute
number,
the
29
million
dollars
of
unfunded
liability.
It
shows
how
close
the
two
are
together
and
then
the
Third
are
required
contributions.
Each
year,
Calpers
calculates
an
amount
that
you
are
required
to
pay.
That
becomes
the
minimum
amount
that
you
can
pay
from
the
city
you're
allowed
to
pay
more
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
X
As
we
go,
we've
also
split
at
this
time
between
your
miscellaneous
employees
and
your
safety,
employee
liability,
so
the
just
to
try
and
see
where
they
are
and
then
showing
them
both
combined
contributions,
as
I
mentioned
before
calculated
by
Calpers
they're
split
into
two
pieces,
as
they
calculate
them.
There's
a
normal
cost.
That's
the
cost
for
current
service
each
year
as
it's
earned
and
it
is
paid
as
a
percentage
of
payroll
into
Calpers.
X
Second
piece
of
contributions
are
an
amortization
payment
to
pay
off
your
unfunded
liability
so
to
the
extent
that
you're
slightly
behind
Target
on
past
liabilities,
Calpers
calculates
an
amount
and
has
you
pay
that,
on
top
of
it
to
catch
up
over
a
period
of
roughly
20
years,
and
this
amount
is
paid
as
a
fixed
dollar
amount
each
year?
X
So
even
if
your
payroll
increases
you
hire
new
employees
or
or
have
a
lot
of
vacancies,
your
past
liabilities
pretty
much
stay
the
same
so
that
amount
gets
costed
out
each
year
as
a
fixed
dollar
amount
and
the
combination
of
those
two
becomes
the
total
employer
contribution,
which
is
the
minimum
amount.
The
city
is
required
to
pay
each
year
under
the
law,
so
for
the
miscellaneous
plan.
X
What
we
see
for
the
unfunded
liability
is
we're
expecting
to
see
a
big
jump
in
unfunded
liability
between
2021
and
2022.
The
reason
for
that
is,
we
talked
about
last
meeting
is
a
lot
of
that's
driven
by
investment
return
and
the
investment
return
in
the
plan
year.
Ending
June
30
2022
was
one
of
the
bottom
five
in
Calpers
investment
return.
History,
minus
7.6
is
what's
going
to
be
credited
instead
of
a
positive
6.8,
so
that
difference
practically
14
is
going
to
increase
your
unfunded
liabilities
dramatically.
X
So
we're
seeing
that
on
the
miscellaneous
side
and
then
assuming
things
go
back
to
normal.
The
plan
is
to
slowly
pay
off
your
unfunded
liability
so
that
the
last
payment
will
be
made
in
2039
and
2040.
You
will
be
ahead
of
schedule.
X
X
So
this
is-
and
this
is
just
the
miscellaneous
plan
we
have
so
I'll-
go
through
the
same
thing
with
the
safety
plan
and
the
total.
But
the
reason
we're
here
and
talking
about
addressing
unfunded
liability
is
this
picture
right
here
most
of
your
contributions
due
to
unfunded
liability.
If
we
can
make
the
unfunded
liability,
if
we
can
reduce
it
or
make
it
go
away,
then
your
ongoing
contributions
become
a
lot
more
affordable
and
your
budgeting
process
becomes
much
easier.
X
Unfunded
liability
here
for
safety,
going
up
from
about
seven
to
about
11
in
the
next
year,
big
jump
and
slowly
getting
paid
off
expected
to
be
fully
paid
off
in
2042.,
see
the
same
thing
with
the
funded
percentage
with
the
drop
and
then
the
the
increase
coming
contributions
increasing
dramatically
from
just
under
a
million
to
about
1.7
million
over
the
next
decade
and
most
of
that
due
to
unfunded
liability
payments.
X
X
The
biggest
two
assumptions
being
the
lowering
of
the
assumed
rate
of
return
in
the
future,
which
had
been
as
high
as
8.75
in
the
past
is
now
6.8.
So
again,
less
money
expected
from
future
investment
return
means
more
money
required
from
the
city
and
the
other.
One
is
extending
life
expectancies,
which
is
happening
to
across
the
board.
X
So,
combined
we're
going
to
see
unfunded
the
liability
jump
up
to
a
little
over
29
million,
as
Tabitha
mentioned,
funded
percentage
dropping
down
to
about
70.,
although
again
on
the
path
to
get
paid
by
about
2041
and
contributions.
Overall,
going
from
about
2.75
million
in
fiscal
year,
20
the
current
fiscal
year
up
to
about
four
and
a
half
million
in
about
a
decade,
so
significant
increases
coming
up
growing
faster
than
revenues
are
probably
expected
to
grow.
So
this
is
why
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
options
for
addressing
unfunded
liability.
X
X
X
X
Unless
you
decide
to
buy
another
car,
you
don't
have
a
car
payment.
Unfunded
liability
doesn't
work
that
way.
Unfunded
liability
can
grow
or
Shrink
each
year,
depending
on
certain
things
and
I'll
talk
about
those
a
little
more
in
the
future.
So
it's
basically
trying
to
manage
this
across
time
and
dealing
with
those
areas
where
you
can
have
some
control
and
other
things
that
the
city
did.
Is
you
went
through
and
created
a
cost
sharing
agreement
with
the
employees
so
they're
making
additional
contributions
on
top
of
the
minimum
required
contributions
for
them
to
Calpers?
X
X
Now
why
address
this,
as
I
mentioned,
showed
in
the
graphs
before
most
of
your
current
and
upcoming
required
contributions
are
due
to
payments
to
unfunded
actuary
liability,
and
this
is
a
debt.
The
29.6
million
that
you
have
is
basically
a
long-term
debt.
It
shows
up
your
balance
sheets
and
the
city
is
effectively
paying
interest
to
Calpers
on
this
debt,
based
on
the
assumed
rate
of
return,
which
currently
is
6.8
percent.
X
X
Now,
what
is
unfunded
liability?
How
does
it
get
created
so
anytime
in
order
to
determine
costs
of
future
benefits
Calpers
and
their
actuaries
make
assumptions
as
to
what's
going
to
be
happening
in
the
future
assumptions
on
how
long
people
are
going
to
work,
what
their
pay
is
going
to
increase
by
when
they're
going
to
retire?
How
long
they'll
live
so
anytime
actual
plan
experience
is
different
than
the
plan's
assumptions.
X
Unfunded
liability
is
created
and
this
can
be
either
positive
or
negative,
so
sort
of
skipping
around
to
the
third
bullet.
When
experience
is
worse
for
the
plan
than
what
was
assumed,
for
example,
in
the
investment
return,
assumption
got
lowered
to
6.8,
meaning
again
less
money
expected
from
investment.
Return
of
the
future.
More
money
can
be
required
from
the
city
new
unfunded
liabilities
created.
X
This
is
what's
referred
to
as
as
the
loss
and
the
unfunded
liability
goes
up.
The
unfunded
liability
can
go
down,
though,
when
experience
is
better
for
the
plant
than
what
was
assumed
so
in
the
year
ending
June
30
2021
when
Calpers
had
a
really
strong
return.
One
of
the
top
five
investment
returns
to
their
history.
X
Unfunded
liability
went
down,
went
down
pretty
dramatically
during
that
year,
so
it
can
go
up
or
it
can
go
down.
I
can
also,
as
I
started,
to
mention
before,
go
up
or
down,
based
on
assumptions
being
changed.
So
when
the
Assumption
changes
for
life
expectancy
is
extended,
that
means
more
payments
are
expected
to
be
made
to
retirees
higher
liability
or
it's
going
to
have
to
be
paid
by
the
the
city
to
pay
for
it
higher
liabilities
that
creates
a
new
unfunded
liability
and
that
can
also
go
in
the
other
direction.
X
So
this
can
also
happen
for
salary
increases,
salary
increases,
bigger
or
smaller
than
expected
higher
level
turnover.
All
of
these
things
can,
over
to
it
will
over
time
affect
unfunded
liability.
The
biggest,
though,
are
the
ones
related
to
us
two
Investments,
so
actual
investment
return
not
hitting
the
Target
and
the
assumed
investment
return.
Dropping
down
have
historically
been
the
two
biggest
reasons
why
unfunded
liabilities
are
created.
X
New
unfunded
liability
gets
created
and
that
new
unfunded
liability
becomes
a
new
layer
of
payments
over
a
20-year
period,
starting
two
years
after
the
experience
actually
occurs.
The
reason
there
is
this
two-year
time
lag
is
because
Calpers
is
doing
calculations,
actuary
evaluations
for
a
couple
thousand
agencies
and
plans
across
California,
so
they
completed
their
June
30
2021,
Actuarial
evaluation
reports
and
delivered
them
in
August
of
2022.
X
Those
reports
are
for
the
contributions
you're
going
to
be
paying
in
the
23-24
fiscal
year,
so
the
experience
that
occurred
in
the
2021
plan
year
yet
paid
in
20
start
getting
paid
in
23,
20
23
24
fiscal
year.
So
there's
a
lag
between
that
experience
and
then
get
paid
off
over
a
20-year
period
beginning
over
that
time,
so
new
amortization
bases
get
created
and
added
on
to
the
others.
So
we
see
here,
the
green
is
what
your
amortization
payments
were
expected
to
be
in
the
June
30
2021
valuation
report.
X
The
blue
is
the
new
amortization
payments
that
get
added
on
due
to
the
bad
experience
and
Investments
the
minus
7.6
percent.
That
is
going
to
be
happening
in
June,
30
2022.,
so
these
payments
that
were
relatively
level
are
going
to
start
Rising
dramatically
and
become
significant
compared
to
what
they
were
before.
X
This
is
something
that
happens
in
both
directions.
If
we
had
looked
at
this
the
previous
year,
we
would
have
seen
a
big
gain
and
these
things
dropping
down,
but
right
now
we
have
this
going
on.
So
this
is
again
monitored
on
a
regular
basis
to
try
and
just
keep
things
under
control
each.
You
know
each
year
as
they
go
along
now.
The
way
to
address
this
is
through
some
combination
of
large
one-time,
additional
contributions
or
a
series
of
consistent
annual
additional
contributions.
X
The
annual
additional
contributions
might
be
something
that
you
budget,
that
you
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
try
and
put
away
a
little
more
each
year
than
what
we
were
expected
to
and
have
it
planned
or
something
that
goes
on
an
ad
hoc
basis
based
on
budget
surplus
or
other
anticipated
savings
that
are
happening
in
the
future.
X
X
You're
going
to
need
to
find
some
money
in
the
short
term
I'm
going
to
take
a
breath
for
a
second
and
see
if
we
have
any
questions
before
I
go
through
some
examples
of
how
these
things
might
work.
What
the
magnitude
of
contributions
would
be
I
just
want
to
see
if,
if
you're,
all
still
there
or
if
I
lost
internet
connection
15
minutes
ago
and
I've
been
talking
to
myself.
Oh.
B
X
X
Yeah
I
mean
some
of
the
Calpers
has
their
money
invested.
Calpers
has
a
lot
of
money,
roughly
a
trillion
dollars,
so
their
money
is
invested
in
just
about
every
place.
You
can
reasonably
invest
money.
A
lot
of
it's
invested
in
the
stock
market,
both
within
the
U.S
and
around
the
world.
A
lot
of
it's
invested
in
fixed
income,
some
of
it's
in
real
estate.
X
Some
of
it
is
in
private
equity
sort
of
startups
as
they
go.
They
have
with
that
much
money
they
are
able
to.
They
have
both
internal
staff
to
deal
with
some
of
this
and
external
advisors,
some
of
the
best
in
the
world
to
advise
them
on
where
markets
are
going
and
the
the
places
the
best
places
to
put
the
money.
X
If
you
look
at
their
return
pattern
over
the
last
30
to
40
years
and
match
it
up
against
other
public
Retirement
Systems
across
the
country,
while
the
numbers
won't
be
exactly
the
same
you're
going
to
see
the
same
exact
patterns
for
Cal
for
other
agencies,
as
you
see
for
Calpers
Calpers
has
had
years
where
they
are
in
the
upper
percentile
of
agencies
across
the
country
and
a
few
were
there
in
the
bottom
percentile.
X
So
it's
not
that
they're
doing
a
bad
job.
It's
that
investing
in
the
markets
has
become,
for
the
last
decade,
been
very,
very
difficult
to
do.
B
So
I
have
another
question
so
Calpers
for
California.
What
bank,
where
is
it
managed
out
of?
Is
it
Massachusetts.
B
X
They
have,
they
have
a
lot
of
different
investment
advisors.
There's
not
there's
not
a
necessarily
A
Bank,
that's
doing
it.
They
have
a
combination
of
investment,
consultants
and
I.
Don't
remember
who
their
Chief
investment
Consultants
are
right.
Now
they
have
a
Chief
Financial
Officer,
who
is
in
you
know
in
their
offices
in
Sacramento
they
have,
and
so
the
investment
cons,
the
board
on
the
advice
of
some
investment.
Consultants
sets
sort
of
General
asset
allocations
into
asset
classes
and
hires
a
series
of
investment
managers.
X
Different
managers
to
invest
stocks
than
they
have
to
invest
bonds.
Then
they
have
to
go
into
private
equity,
each
of
the
the
investment
advisors,
the
Investments,
the
the
people
in
charge
of
doing
a
specific,
investing,
let's
say
for
stocks,
then,
has
certain
responsibility
to
you
know
within
certain
Target
groups
to
invest
the
money
to
get
the
best
possible
returned
net
of
fees
within
their
the
instructions
they've
been
given
for
what
they're
doing,
and
so
they
pick
for
picking
stocks.
X
X
And
and
again
there
they
come
from
all
across
the
country
that
may
have
been
at
one
point
when
I
think
of
a
Massachusetts
bank,
I,
usually
think
of
State,
Street
and
I,
think
they
were
doing
some
work
for
Calpers
for
large
for
a
long
number
large
number
of
years.
I,
don't
remember
if
they're
still
doing
it
right
now,.
C
X
Okay,
so,
and
by
the
way
these,
what
we're
coming
through
right
here
are
just
examples:
okay
and
we're
coming
with
these
examples
to
get
direction
from
the
board
to
make
sure
that
we
that
we
understand
your
staff
understands
which
approaches
of
these
the
council
would
like
to
consider
and
at
what
level,
how
much
money
you
are
willing
to
set
aside
to
to
move
in
these
directions.
X
So
we've
we've
got
some
numbers
and
we'll
explain
where
those
numbers
came
from,
and
we
also
have
a
recommendation
at
the
end,
a
staff
recommendation
as
to
how
to
go
about
this.
But
again,
this
is
all
looking
for
guidance
and
direction
from
Council
I.
Think
the
the
goal
is
to
take
those
Direction
and
come
back
one
more
time.
X
So
where
does
this
five
million
dollar
comp
number
come
from?
The
five
billion
dollar
number
wasn't
just
pulled
randomly
out
of
the
air.
You
have
about
2.5
million
in
the
city's
current
rainy
day.
Reserves
that
your
staff
believes
is
on
top
of
the
amount
that
you
would
that
you
could
need
to
comfortably
keep
your
reserves
in
good
shape.
X
X
Now
doing
that,
we're
looking
at
two
different
approaches,
one
is
to
pay
off
the
longest
remaining
amortization
bases
that
you
have
remembering
that
each
year,
new
amortization
bases
get
created
and
have
a
20-year
lifetime,
so
some
of
them
have
20
years
remaining.
You
have
others
that
got
created
15
years
ago
that
only
have
about
five
years
left.
X
So
if
we
pay
off
the
law,
we'll
look
at
what
happens
if
you
pay
up
the
longest
amortization
basis
and
that
should
create
the
most
long-term
savings.
Next
option
will
look
at
paying
off,
potentially
the
shortest
amortization
basis.
X
X
We
are
also
going
to
assume
that
the
Trust
balance
would
be
contributed
to
Calpers
when
the
combination
brings
the
plan
to
100
funded
so
we'll
let
the
amounts
grow
now.
One
of
the
reasons
why
you
might
put
money
in
a
115
trust,
even
though
it's
earning
less
investment
returned,
is
this
option
tends
to
provide
more
budget
flexibility
to
the
city
money
put
into
the
section.
X
115
Trust
must
be
used
to
make
contributions
to
Calpers,
so
in
the
model
we're
doing
we're,
assuming
it's
going
to
get
paid
to
lower
your
unfunded
liability
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Until
Calpers
gets
it,
they
don't
lower
your
contributions,
but
if
something
goes
wrong
with
your
finances
between
now
and
then
whether
that
is
something
happening
to
the
economy,
where
the
revenues
drop
or
something
happening
with
your
required
expenditures,
yeah.
Y
X
Hate
to
you
know,
you
know
talk
about
any
of
these
bad
things
happening
at
once,
but
something
happening
where
the
city
has
to
expend
a
large
amount
of
money.
That's
not
in
the
budget.
You
can
use
the
money
in
that
115
trust
to
make
your
regular
contributions
for
that
year.
So
any
money,
that's
in
the
115
trust,
while
I
can't
go
back
to
your
general
fund.
X
For
the
purpose
of
this,
we're
focusing
on
the
miscellaneous
plan
anytime,
you
make
additional
contributions
to
Calpers
Calpers
wants
to
know
which
plan
you're,
putting
it
in
and
actually
which
amortization
basis
you're
paying
off.
So
we're
defining
each
of
that
here
with
the
miscellaneous
point
now.
What
the
red
here
is
the
Baseline,
which
is
the
projection.
We
showed
before
contributions
going
unfunded
liability
going
up
they're
getting
paid
off
over
time.
X
X
The
stop
that
the
light
purple
pinkish
purple
number
is
paying
the
shortest
amortization
base
so
again
immediately
a
five
million
dollar
reduction,
but
then
that
amount
goes
away.
The
difference
goes
away
a
little
more
quickly,
again,
less
savings
over
time.
The
purple
making
a
payment
to
the
115
Trust
has
bigger
savings.
You
know
dropping
around
from
the
liability
a
little
bit
faster
terms
of
getting
to
a
hundred
percent
the
percentages
you
end
out
getting
to
100
the
fastest,
with
putting
the
money
in
the
115
trust.
X
The
reason
for
that,
as
we'll
show
in
just
a
moment,
is
because
you
keep
making
contributions
at
the
higher
level
as
if
that
money
is
not
there,
because
it's
not
in
Calpers,
so
you
keep
making
bigger
contributions
that
pays
the
whole
thing
off
the
paying
off
the
longest
base
pays
against
you
100
next
fastest
and
going
with
the
shortest
base.
Does
it
the
slowest
or
about
where
you
would
be
right
now?
This
is
what
happens
to
your
contributions.
The
red
is
where
you
are
right
now.
It's
also
you'll
notice.
X
The
dark
purple
is
in
the
same
place
as
the
red
until
you
hit
100
funded
in
about
2034
and
use
that
money
and
pay
it
to
Calpers.
At
that
point,
when
you
would
see
a
significant
reduction
in
contributions
down
to
just
paying
for
the
current
year
service
each
year,
a
normal
cost,
the
yellow
is
paying
off
the
longest
pace.
So
we
see
some
significant
reduction
of
about
300
to
400
000
a
year,
and
it
keeps
that
kind
of
reduction
all
the
way
until
the
plan
is
100
funded
in
about
2041.
X
The
light
purple
is
a
bigger
contribution
about
600
000
per
year
Savings
in
contributions,
but
it
only
lasts
for
about
looks
like
about
13
years,
so
bigger
reduction
in
the
short
term
compared
to
a
medium.
You
know
less
of
a
reduction,
but
some
reduction
versus
no
reduction
for
a
while
and
bigger.
You
know
eventually
more
terms
of
absolute
numbers,
of
how
much
you
would
save
biggest
savings.
X
X
X
X
Think
of
it
like
combining
all
of
your
the
debt,
you
might
have
your
home
payment,
your
car
payment
and
others
into
one
big,
consolidated
loan
and
then
picking
a
shorter
period
to
pay
it
all
off.
The
shorter
period
gives
you
more
savings
by
not
paying
as
much
interest.
X
So
for
the
purpose
of
this
analysis,
we
assume
the
five
million
dollar
contribution
was
made.
We
assumed
it
was
being
made
to
pay
off
the
longest
amortization
base
and
we
assumed
a
fresh
start
was
going
to
happen
and
we
looked
at
potentially
doing
it
over
five
years,
10
years
or
a
15-year
period.
Now
these
Fresh
Starts
that
you
do,
if
you
do,
one
can
be
either
an
actual
Fresh
Start.
X
X
That's
why
some
agencies
are
using,
what's
known
as
a
virtual
Fresh
Start,
where
you
don't
actually
tell
Calpers
you're
doing
this,
but
you
use
something
like
our
software
to
calculate
how
much
the
Fresh
Start
would
be
over
another
period.
Let's
say
10
years,
make
the
payments
at
that
higher
level
and
continue
doing
that
as
long
as
you
can.
X
So
we
looked
at
again
the
five
sorry,
the
5,
the
10
and
the
15
year,
and
unfunded
liability
should
not
surprise
you
to
see
that
the
five-year
amortization
gets
paid
off
goes
down
to
zero.
At
five
years,
ten
years
amortization
gets
zero.
Ten
years
15
year,
amortization
gets
to
zero
to
15
years
now.
One
thing:
that's
interesting,
the
15-year
harmonization
slightly
longer
than
the
amount
that
your
you
would
be
paying
off.
If
you
just
paid
the
5
million.
X
X
X
To
do
that,
though,
this
is
the
one
that
gets
a
little
bit
scary.
These
are
What.
Contributions
would
be
the
just
as
something
to
look
at.
The
green
here
is
without
the
5
million
and
without
a
fresh
start.
This
is
the
payment
schedule
that
you
are
currently
on
going
from
about
1.75
million
up
to
a
little
more
than
three
and
again,
this
is
just
the
miscellaneous
plan,
not
both
of
them
combined
and
then
moving
on.
That's
the
dark,
green.
X
The
yellow
is
what
we
had
with
the
5
million
longest
base.
As
we
said
about
600
000
a
year
savings
all
the
way
through
the
light
purple
here
is
the
five
year
basically
saying
oh,
we'll
pay
it
off
over
five
years.
That's
going
to
jump
your
contributions
up
significantly
to
about
almost
4
million
a
year
just
for
the
miscellaneous
plan.
X
So
this
is
a
pretty
significant
increase
just
to
show
you
because
yeah
I
mean
I,
guess
all
else
being
equal
you'd
love
to
get
rid
of
your
debt
in
five
years.
The
problem
is
it's
an
extremely
difficult
thing
to
do,
and
very
expensive
to
get
that
done.
X
The
10-year
period
is
the
one
right
here
in
dark
purple,
it's
basically
somewhere
between
what
you're
paying
a
little
more
than
what
you're
paying
right
now
in
the
beginning,
but
because
it's
level
it's
going
to
end
out
being
less
than
the
peak
of
what
you
would
have
paid
before
the
15
is,
is
basically
compared
to
the
sort
of
the
yellow
line,
which
is
where
you
were
with.
Five
million
is
sort
of
stretching
this
out.
X
Instead
of
having
the
up
and
down
it's
making
it
relatively
flat,
all
the
way
across
and
overall,
pretty
similar
schedule.
So
what
that
does
in
terms
of
savings?
On
top
of
the
5
million
we
saw
before
the
15-year,
basically
doesn't
save
you.
It
actually
costs
you
about
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
over
the
15-year
period.
X
X
So
these
are
different
things
and
how
they
would
work
talked
with
staff
and
Tabitha.
Had
a
recommendation.
I
know
Tabitha
whether
you
want
to
talk
about
it.
You
want
me
to
talk
about
it.
X
Okay,
so
the
recommendation
here
is
is
basically
a
very
solid
plan
to
try
and
address
this
unfunded
liability
relatively
quickly.
So
first
take
the
first
five
million
that
we
talked
about
before
and
use
it
to
pay
off
the
longest
amortization
base
to
the
miscellaneous
plan.
This
will
be
that
five
million
dollars
in
savings
on
over
the
next
20
years
so
years
that
we
showed
before.
In
addition,
the
recommendation
is
to
take
another
2.5
million.
X
And
put
that
into
section
115
Trust:
this
will
be
able
to
be
used
as
a
rainy
day
fund
for
the
pension
and
earned
the
nice
thing
about
a
section.
115
Trust
is
because
the
money
is
being
used
to
pay
for
pension
benefits.
X
That
money
can
be
invested
with
different
restrictions,
fewer
restrictions
than
the
way
that
your
internal
funds
can
be
invested.
So
your
internal
funds
are
required
to
be
invested
in
short-term
high
quality
government
bonds,
so
you're
basically
earning
a
little
bit
more
than
expected
inflation,
basically,
the
the
FED
interest
rate
somewhere
around
three
percent.
Probably
right
now,
if
you
put
the
money
in
section
115
Trust,
you
can
invest
in
a
variety
of
different
things.
X
So,
instead
of
earning,
maybe
three
you'd
earn
five
or
instead
of
maybe
four
you
earn
six
depending
on
how
high
the
FED
continues
to
raise
interest
rates.
So
this
would
hopefully
create
some
extra
money
to
make
these
payments
a
little
bit
faster.
X
The
second
part
of
the
recommendation
is
to
make
is
to
make
an
actual
15-year
fresh
start
with
Calpers.
At
the
same
time,
this
additional
5
million
is
being
put
into
it.
So
that
would
put
you
next
to
this.
X
X
This
amount
going
for
the
10-year
period,
if
tough
times
that
the
recession
really
does
hit
the
next
year,
or
so
as
expected,
slow
it
down
for
a
little
while
drop
down
to
light
purple
line,
and
then,
when
things
go
back
to
normal,
move
back
up
and
make
the
higher
payments.
X
So
what
this
would
do
is
we're
actually
showing
all
this
here
in
the
graph.
The
red
line
is,
if
you
follow
just
a
straight
15-year
payment.
The
10
this
is
following:
the
yellow
line
is
following
the
10-year
press
start.
So
unfunded
liability
dropping
down
immediately
by
seven
and
a
half
million,
because
the
money
in
the
115
trust
and
the
the
pension
fund
and
then
getting
to
100
funded
in
a
little
more
than
in
about
a
decade.
X
Unfunded
liability
again
moving
up
very
quickly
and
the
total
contributions-
and
this
is
all
plans
combined
here-
both
miscellaneous
and
safety.
So
instead
of
the
green
line
is
where
we
were
looking
to
have
things
go
if
you
hadn't
done
anything
the
yellow
line,
which
the
10-year
amortization
payment,
the
virtual
Fresh
Start
a
little
bit
higher
in
the
beginning.
But
after
a
few
years
when
the
green
line
would
have
accelerated
up
your
payments
would
stay
relatively
steady.
X
Want
the
big
caveat
here
that
this
assumes
that
Calpers
hits
their
target
moving
forward
and
the
one
thing
I
can
guarantee
is
they're
not
going
to
hit
their
target
they'll
beat
it
some
years,
they'll
miss
it
others.
So
this
wonderful
straight
line
is
going
to
get
a
little
jaggedy
over
time.
But
this
is
the
you
know.
X
The
green
line
would
have
also
popped
up
up
and
down
accordingly,
so
the
savings
should
still
be
a
relatively
good
measure
of
where
things
of
how
this
plan
might
work,
which
is
pretty
much
all
we
had
so
Tabitha.
O
B
W
J
B
W
Change
we,
it
will
change,
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
Ira
pointed
out
is
that
we
know
it's
like
any
Target
6.8
percent.
We're
never
going
to
hit
that
precisely
on
the
nose.
Every
year
year
in
year
out,
it's
going
to
be
higher
and
it's
going
to
be
lower,
so
it
will
change
every
year.
W
And
you
know,
you
know
if
you
make
extra
payments
you're
going
to
pay
it
off
in
this
amount
and
if
you've
got
a
fixed
rate,
it's
really
simple.
This
is
not
that
animal.
This
will
change
the
interest
or
change
the
amounts
will
change
and
we
just
have
to
be
willing
to
commit
to
looking
at
it
and
doing
the
best
we
can
every
year.
I
know
that's
not
a
great
message.
Yeah.
W
W
It
was
in
great
shape
and
that's
when
they
started
offering
additional
benefits
and
entities
throughout
California
were
actually
kind
of
getting
on
the
bandwagon
of
offering
better
more
lucrative
pension
programs
in
order
to
encourage
and
recruit
employees,
and
that
wasn't
so
bad,
except
that
the.com
Bubble
Burst
right
after
that,
and
that
was
kind
of
the
first
of
a
series
of
investment
losses
that
really
hit
Calpers
hard
and
they
weren't
expecting
it.
They
weren't
prepared
for
it
from
an
investment
standpoint,
and
you
know
things
from
there
on
got
really
tough.
W
Then
you
hit
the
Great
Recession,
which
really
reset
for
several
years.
They
took
big
hits
and
big
losses,
and
and
and
not
just
Calpers.
Every
pension
system
in
America
had
very
similar
results
and
never
got
out
of
it.
The
other
thing
that
happened
and
if
you
look
at
historically
the
plan,
if
you
look
at
graphs
and
stuff,
there's
graphs
out
there,
that
will
show
you
that,
20
years
ago,
25
years
ago,
there
were
two
I
think
two
and
a
half
employees
for
every
paying
into
the
system
for
every
employee
that
was
retired.
W
That
is
now
the
opposite.
So
we
have
less
that
our
payrolls
in
local
government
we
looked
like
we
were
on
this
great
trajectory
that
they
were
growing
great
in
the
late
90s
early
2000s
and
we
stopped
growing
I
mean
the
Great
Recession
sort
of
stopped.
You
know
many
many
organizations
just
basically
put
a
hiring
freeze
in
place
for
years,
and
so
there's
less
people
coming
into
the
system
to
pay
towards
those
that
are
retiring.
So,
and
that's
probably
that's
just
a
few
of
the
things
that
went
wrong.
X
X
So,
as
Tabitha
mentioned
during
the
80s
and
90s
things
went
along
pretty
well,
Calpers
beat
their
returns
almost
every
year,
uh.com
Bubble,
Burst
and
yeah.
The
timing
of
that
was
right.
After
a
lot
of
benefits
started
increasing
many
most
plans
in
Calpers
were
what
they
refer
to
as
super
funded
at
that
point,
meaning
that
there
was
enough
money
to
pay
for
all
the
employees
in
the
plan
and
retirees
for
the
rest
of
their
lives
without
any
additional
contributions.
If
things
went
as
expected,
so
they
were.
The
cities
were
not
making
contributions.
X
Most
many
employee
groups
were
not
making
contributions
and
then
they
bumped
up
benefits,
still
thought
it
was
going
to
be
okay
and
it
was
going
to
be
free
and
then
Calpers
started.
You
know
the
markets
crashed,
Calpers
started
losing
money,
and
even
when
they
had
positive
returns,
they
were
low
and
weak.
X
The
markets
have
been
crazy
in
the
last
decade
up
and
down
all
the
time.
The
assumed
ready
to
return
is
the
red
line,
as
it's
been
slowly
decreasing.
The
reason
that's
been
coming
down
across
time
is
because
the
Investments
are
a
combination
of
stocks
and
bonds.
X
Bond
yields,
fixed
income
back
in
1980,
were
about
15
percent
and
have
slowly
been
have
been
coming
down
pretty
much
in
a
straight
line
since
then
bottoming
out
in
2000
and
close
to
zero.
X
So
all
of
that
you
know
some
of
that
were
things
that
in
hindsight
might
have
been.
You
know
able
to
figure
out
like
the
like.
Giving
better
benefits
may
not
have
been
the
ideal
thing
to
do
at
the
time,
even
though
everybody
thought
oh
the.com
bubble.
The.Com
boom
is
going
to
keep
going
forever
in
hindsight,
probably
not
a
good
thing
to
do,
but
other
things
like
the
fixed
income.
X
The
interest
rates
coming
down
over
time
is
not
something
that
anyone
really
had
control
over.
Now
that
they're
starting
to
go
up
again,
we
may
see
we
may
see
something
a
little
bit
different.
But
again,
this
is
most
of
this
were
things
that
were
outside
of
Calpers
control
and
your
agency's
control.
The
fact
that
you
have
an
unfunded
liability
and
again
you
are
pretty
close
to
the
middle
of
where
agencies
are
all
across
California
I,
think
a
little
bit
above
the
50th
percentile.
X
So
this
is
not
something
that
you
should
be
blaming
on
past
City
councils
or
past
staff.
It's
happening
to
agencies
all
across
California
and
all
across
the
country
and
largely
because
of
what's
been
happening
with
the
markets.
X
X
But
that's
gonna
be
happening
anyway,
so
you
realize
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
volatility,
but
you
make
a
plan
that
will
get
you
to
a
better
place
than
if
you
just
let
the
you
know
the
bouncing
happen
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
comforting
thought,
but
it's
you
know
you,
you
know
I
think.
The
plan
that
Tabitha
is
bringing
up
is
one
that
allows
you
to
have
some
control
to
the
extent
possible
within
your
budget,
towards
addressing
this
and
addressing
costs
and
lowering
your
costs
over
time.
T
And
Council
I'll
just
also
add
that
when
Jerry
Brown
became
Governor
several
years
ago,
he
rolled
back
pensions
right.
So
we
are
new
employees
that
have
not
are
not
classic.
Pers
members
that
haven't
been
in
the
per
system
for
years
come
in
at
a
lower
pension
benefit
rate,
with
the
hope
of
stabilizing
pensions
over
time
in
California.
So
there
are
some
long-term
fixes
built
into
the
system.
T
Now
it's
just
going
to
take
probably
another
10
years
for
those
to
really
come
to
full
fruition,
but
I
will
say
that
we
are
with
the
turnover
that
local
governments
have
seen
during
the
pandemic
and
coming
out
of
the
pandemic.
We
are
seeing
you
know
the
rate
of
our
employee
group,
shifting
to
what
we
call
pepra
or
employees
under
that
pension
reform
plan
with
that
lower
benefit
package
more
rapidly
than
we
thought
so
there
is.
There
is
some
stability
in
the
future
that
will
come
from
that
as
well.
W
We're
really
talking
about
pulling
funds
from
three
of
our
funds:
the
general
fund,
our
water
fund
and
our
Wastewater
fund,
which
is
where
most
of
our
employees
are
being
paid
out
of.
So
it's
appropriate
the
column
just
over
one.
From
that
left
hand,
side
is
our
current
estimates
for
fiscal
year,
2022
fund
balance
and
I
will
say
that
as
a
whole,
I
am
I,
am
pleasantly
surprised
coming
to
work
for
Arcata
that
these
are
the
balances
that
you
have.
Your
general
fund
in
particular
is
solid.
You
have
a
good.
W
You
know
a
good
amount
of
Reserve
you're,
not
rich
by
any
means,
there's
not
a
lot
of
excess
funding,
but
you're
in
a
good,
solid,
Financial
place,
and
so
you
are
in
a
position
where
I
I
feel
at
this
point
that,
but
that
we
can
look
at
making
these
investments
in
the
pension
program.
The
one-time
pension
payment
is
that
five
million
dollars
that
we
talked
about
we'd
pay
it
up
front
to
Calpers.
It
would
be
half
from
the
general
fund
and
then
split
between
water
and
waste
water.
W
W
It
puts
you
in
a
good
place,
just
to
kind
of
put
in
perspective,
because
I'm
going
to
move
to
the
next
page
and
we'll
talk
about
what
an
appropriate
fund
balance
Reserve
is.
Your
general
fund
here
is
ending
with
46
overall
and
your
reserve
is
about
30
percent,
so
you're
good,
and
then
your
your
other
funds
are
really
setting
aside
money
for
Capital,
which
is
going
to
be
what's
going
to
push
both
your
water
and
your
Wastewater
fund.
W
Going
forward
so
this
kind
of
spawns,
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
side
sideway,
you
know
a
hole
that
I
wanted
to
go
into,
but
I
think
it's
really
important,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
setting
reserves,
particularly
in
our
general
fund,
at
a
point
where
we're
carrying
forward
and
we're
planning
for
the
future
and
that
we're
able
to
to
Really
weather
some
ups
and
downs.
W
In
addition
to
not
just
the
the
Calpers
pension,
but
we
know
looking
at
the
markets
right
now
that
there's
more
talk
about
recessions,
there's
a
lot
of
volatility,
there's
even
a
lot
of
volatility
in
Humboldt,
County
and
so
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
kind
of
focus
on
that
and
make
sure
that
the
council
and
the
communities
comfortable
with
where
we
set
that
general
fund
Reserve.
This
happens
to
be
kind
of
an
up.
W
It's
pulled
from
the
government
Finance
Officers
Association,
which
is
kind
of
the
the
association
and
the
Bible
that
everybody
goes
to
for
financial
information,
not
just
in
the
US
but
also
Canada,
and
at
the
top
you
can
see
they
have
basically
four
different
levels
of
kind
of
where
they
would
recommend
you
set
your
general
fund
reserves,
the
minimal
one.
If
you
have
low
end
risk
is
two
months
worth
of
expenditures
or
16.6
percent
low
to
moderate,
is
17
to
25
or
up
to
three
months
of
expenditures.
W
The
second
half
of
the
slide
here
you'll
see
some
of
the
factors
to
consider
and
there's
actually
a
pretty
detailed
spreadsheet,
where
you
can
go
through
and
rate
yourself.
I
went
through
those
and
I
have
to
say,
based
on
my
kind
of
cursory
evaluation,
the
city
of
arcade
is
in
pretty
good
shape.
You
have
a
couple
of
of
areas
that
are
probably
you
know,
higher
higher
risk
than
average,
which
is
the
risk
of
extreme
events,
and
we've
seen
that,
just
probably
in
the
last
six
months
and
year,
and
then
really
sort
of
that
growth.
W
You've
got
growth
in
expenditures,
but
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
growth
in
our
economy
and
capital
projects
is
one
that
we
want
to
note.
But
the
good
thing
about
the
city
is
that,
as
we've
talked
about
in
our
mid-year
budget
review
and
stuff,
we're
really,
depending
on
and
using
those
grants
and
outside
resources
to
pay
for
those,
so
we're
not
dependent
on
our
general
fund
reserves
to
pay
for
capital
projects.
W
So
this
kind
of
gives
you
a
breakdown
of
what
that
would
equate
to
as
far
as
dollars,
keeping
in
mind
we're
currently
at
4.8
million
dollars
in
reserves.
That
puts
us
at
a
really
solid
right
in
the
middle
of
the
recommendations.
Again,
I
would
rate
US
in
you
know,
somewhere
between
low
and
moderate
risks,
so
I
feel
like
we.
We
are
in
a
good,
solid
place
with
that,
even
accounting
for
the
increase,
the
estimated
increase
in
expenditures
for
2024,
which
would
go
up
to
about
19.5
million
dollars
for
our
general
fund.
W
You'll
still
stay
at
three
months
reserves
or
25
percent.
I
would
like
to
mention
here
that
that
that
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
we
would
put
in
115
trust
allows
us
to
sort
of
add
to
that
bottom
line.
So
you
would
actually
could
add
a
million
and
a
half
that
you'd
be
taking
from
your
your
general
fund
for
that
115
trust,
and
that
would
put
you
at
about
34
percent
funded
or
above
the
3.6.
W
So
it
kind
of
gets
us
to
that
next
level
without
actually
having
to
put
in
any
more
money
into
the
reserve.
But
you
also
it
may
be
something
that
the
council
wants
to
consider
moving
another
1.1
million
dollars
over
to
the
reserve,
which
would
basically
give
put
you
at
the
30
and
give
you
that
section.
115
trust.
W
In
addition
to
that
again,
it
just
really
puts
you
in
a
solid
financial
position
and
allows
us
to
kind
of
weather
those
those
a
better,
and
it
would
still
leave
about
three
million
dollars
of
basically
unallocated
general
fund
funds
for
you
to
have
some
flexibility
in
your
annual
budgets
or
potentially
to
do
a
larger
project.
W
The
other
one
that
we
talked
about
was
this
whole
idea
of
the
Fresh
Start
reamortizing.
So
we
can
flatten
out
that
pay
those
annual
payments
on
on
a
regular
basis
to
15
years,
committing
to
Cal
pers,
but
targeting
paying
that
off
in
10
years.
Another
way
for
us
to
reduce
that
cost,
get
that
interest
savings
that
was
closer
to
I,
think
four,
four
million
or
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
We
currently
have
about
one
and
a
half
million
dollars.
W
That's
been
built
up
in
an
internal
trust
for
our
other
post-employment
benefits,
it
happens
to
be
retiree
health
insurance.
This
is
a
another
employment
benefit.
That
is
a
liability,
but
it
is
a
much
lower
amount.
It
does
not.
We
are
not
being
charged
the
6.8
interest
every
year
and
what
we
pay
out.
We've
been
able
to
pay
that
out
of
pocket
on
an
annual
basis,
as
we
go,
I
would
suggest
and
I
would
recommend
that
the
council
consider
taking
300
300.
W
Excuse
me
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
the
next
five
years
and
commit
that
to
that
annual
pay
down.
What
it
basically
means
is
that
you
as
a
Council,
would
get
us
through
the
next
five
years
and
then
the
council,
after
that,
would
have
to
figure
out
how
we
come
up
with
that
additional
payment
for
the
last
10
years
to
meet
that
10-year
virtual
Fresh
Start.
W
So
just
a
reminder
of
kind
of
what
we're
looking
for
tonight,
we're
not
asking
you
to
make
any
any
specific
directions
or
decisions,
but
we
would
like
some
direction
that
we
could
bring
back
to
you
as
part
of
the
budget
for
23.24,
with
some
ideas
on
whether
you
really
want
to
maximize
those
long-term
interest.
Savings
or
you'd
prefer
to
really
focus
on
reducing
our
annual
contribution,
cost
or
balance
or
the
staff
recommendation,
which
is
trying
to
balance
both
of
those.
C
E
A
W
So,
actually,
what
it
is
is
it's
the
difference
between
ubatia
reserves
on
your
annual
expenditures
for
your
general
fund,
so
the
the
30
that
we
were
talking
about
is
based
on
the
2022
23
expenditures
and
we're
looking
at
the
next
budget
year.
Unfortunately,
we're
looking
at
our
budget
going
up
and
so
I
didn't
ask
them
where
that
would
put
us
so.
W
B
So
I
just
think
one
of
the
things
I
would
think
about
is
definitely
going
into
the
115
Trust
that
that's
something
I
I
would
think
about,
and
I
made
this
note,
but
I'm,
not
too
sure
I
just
checked
off
the
10-year
fresh.
You
know
fresh
start
but
I'm,
just
thinking.
If
we
put
so
much
money
forward,
you
know
whatever
it
was.
You
made
some
recommendations
and
then
we
went
to
the
115
truss
to
carry
us
forward
anyway.
That's
my
I
thought
and.
W
A
C
So
I
think
the
idea
and
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
is
we
start
with
this
5
million
down
right
and
then
we
do
a
reset
to
15
years,
but
we
that
opeb
fun
that
Tabitha
was
talking
about
that
extra
1.5
million
dollars.
We
use
that
to
make
the
10-year
payment,
even
though
we're
on
a
50-year
15-year
schedule,
so
we're
overpaying
so
we're
paying
the
10-year
amount
but
we're
having
the
15-year
payment.
So
if
one
year
we're
like
you
know,
we
can't
do
it,
then
we're
there's
no
harm,
no
foul.
W
Yeah,
so
that
what
he
was
when
Iowa
was
talking
about
the
virtual
we're
we're
going
to
commit
technically
legally
to
the
15,
but
we're
going
to
strive
for
the
10-year
and,
as
you
said,
there's
no
reason
that
if
any
year
we
have
extra
funding
or
you
could
even
set
a
policy
where,
if
you
end
the
year
and
your
general
fund
has
a
surplus
x
amount
either
goes
to
the
115
trust
or
we
automatically
pay
additional
contribution.
And
so
there's
no
reason.
We
can't
try
to
make
it
less
than
10.
H
I,
don't
really
have
any
questions
just
a
few
things.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
basically
spreading
this
out
over
three
meetings.
You
know,
that's
that's
really
helpful,
so
that
we
had
the
you
know
kind
of
the
shock
last
time
and
then
today
we're
problem
solving
and
I.
Think
they're,
really
the
hard
part
will
be
when
we
actually
sit
down
with
the
budget
and
see
where
we
have
to
sacrifice
I.
H
Think
that's
where
that'll
be
the
tough
one
and
I
also
just
want
to
acknowledge
Pat
the
staff
and
past
councils
for
helping
us
to
be.
You
know
for
you
to
be
able
to
step
into
a
pretty
decent
situation
so
where
I
appreciate
that
I
do
I
like
the
idea
of
that
I.
H
Like
your
recommendation-
and
you
know
the
115
trust,
because
it's
more
flexible
I
like
that-
we're
basically
refinancing
and
committing
to
15
years,
but
also
really
working
and
committing
to
trying
to
do
our
best
to
pay
it
off
in
10,
because
I
feel
like
without
you
know.
Without
that
accountability
of
the
refi
in
the
15
years,
we
could
have
the
best
of
intentions,
but
we
wouldn't
really
be
locked
into
something
so
I
think
it's
a
really
good
balance
and
that's
all
I
have.
C
All
right
so
Tabitha
I
just
want
to.
First
of
all.
Thank
you
so
much
for
spending
some
time
with
me
like
really
getting
to
the
nitty-gritty
of
this
I
realize
that
this
is
not
very
glamorous
subject
that
we're
getting
into
right
now
and
it's
more
nuts
and
bolts
stuff,
but
I.
Definitely
part
of
my
platform
was
fiscal
responsibility,
so
I'm
really
glad
that
we
have
very
you
know
good
direction,
I
feel
like
I'm,
the
Ben
Wyatt
everybody's
Leslie
Knope.
C
If
you
will
I
would
like
to
thank
Janet
and
Audrey,
of
course,
for
having
the
foresight
for
that
opeb
fund
and
for
really
keeping
our
reserves.
So
yeah
I
mean
just
got
to
understand
that
these
are
tough
decisions
that
we're
going
to
make.
This
is
not
maybe
going
to
win
us
very
many
popularity
contests.
C
It's
you
know
we're
putting
aside
a
large
chunk
of
money
and
it's
going
to
really
kind
of
affect
the
other
things
that
we're
able
to
do.
But
the
good
thing
is
is
that
you
know
we
can
revisit
it.
We
can.
We
don't
have
to
make
any
decisions
until
we
see
how
it's
going
to
affect
the
final
budget,
but
I
do
think
that
they
are
really
strong
recommendations
and
I
think
that
10
years
down
the
road
you
know
other
council
members
are
going
to
say.
C
Well,
they
really
like
took
one
for
the
team
and
and
and
really
worked
out
a
set
up
the
things
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
prioritize
is
that
you
know
we're
at
the
end
of
a
third
year
contract
with
our
employees.
So
we
just
want
to
prioritize
Meeting.
C
Those
commitments
that
we've
made
to
all
our
employees
and
I
would
also
like
to
prioritize
our
fiscal
policy
to
make
sure
that
we're
setting
aside
30
of
our
operating
Revenue
every
year,
just
to
keep
us
you
know
kind
of
in
that
meeting
to
high
moderate
to
high
reserves.
C
I,
can
we
can
we
can
we
get
through
public
comments
while
we're
on
a
roll
and
then
go
to
the
bathroom?
Can
you
okay,
go
ahead,
be
agree.
F
Okay,
the
budget
for
the
city
Arcata
is
79
million.
Is
that
correct?
You
have
a
shortfall
of
13.8
million
dollars.
You
also
have
a
deficit
of
3.3
million,
that's
outside
the
pension.
F
So
what's
most
shocking,
is
the
wastewater
treatment
part
of
it
that
you're
going
to
borrow
money
from
the
waste
I
guess
you're,
taking
money
from
the
wastewater
treatment
plan?
Is
that
what
I
heard
your
one's
shaking
your
head
and
the
other
one's
not
saying
anything,
but
basically
the
wastewater
treatment
plant?
F
What
phase
one
was
supposed
to
be
30
million
a
couple
years
ago?
And
when
you
guys
voted
in
the
fall
you
it
was
just
short
of
44
million
and
then
two
weeks
later
you
got
the
engineering
at
2
million.
So
let's
say
roughly
46..
Now
it's
up
to
62
million
and
no
one's
even
asked
the
question
like
how
did
it
go
from
what
you
voted
in
the
fall,
which
was
a
lot
higher
than
what
was
talked
about
a
few
years
ago?
F
And
now
we're
talking
about
borrowing,
money
or
taking
money
from
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
also
I
would
say
that
I'm,
probably
the
only
person
from
the
public
that
was
in
part
of
the
coastal
Commission
in
the
fall
and
the
staff
was
pretty
assertive
about
coming
in
with
phase
two,
which
was
approximately
maybe
another
40,
some
million
dollars
from
the
wastewater
treatment
fund
too.
So,
there's
a
lot
of
like
questions
about
this.
What
no
one's
asking
any
questions
about
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
like
why?
F
Why
did
it
all
of
a
sudden
go
up
in
price
from
just
what
you
guys
approved
in
the
fall
I
mean
this
is
the
whole
key
from
the
standpoint
of
you
know,
the
the
coastal
commission
asked
for
a
report
to
be
done
about
where
that
plant's
going
to
go
in
the
future.
A
lot
of
people
are
saying
that
was
the
Gateway.
Where
is
that?
Where
is
that?
F
Where
a
progress
in
that
aspect
of
it-
and
so
you
know
it's
there's
a
lot
of
things
about
the
wastewater
treatment
and
I-
think
I
mean
someone
needs
to
be
clear
about.
Are
you
taking
money
from
that
source
and
even
even
if
you
go
beyond
that,
we
have
a
13
8
million
dollar
deficit
in
our
budget,
so
you're
asking
like
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
pull
five
million
dollars.
They
pay
off
the
pension
I
mean
to
help
out
on
the
pension,
but
you
know
that's
going
to
affect.
F
How
are
you
going
to
make
up
on
the
budget?
How
are
you
going
to
make
up
the
on
the
3.3
million
that
you
already
have
a
deficit
so
seems,
like
you
got
a
big
problem
with
a
deficit
and
no
one's
exactly
explaining
how
you're
going
to
address
that
I
know
in
the
private
sector.
I
had
I
had
two
bosses
from
Wharton
School
business
with
the
mbas,
and
they
would
be
all
over
this
budget
trying
to
save
money.
S
Hello,
thank
you.
I.
Don't
think
I'm
going
to
need
six
minutes,
I'm
going
to
speak
in
generalities,
not
specifics,
because
there's
too
many
specifics,
I
appreciate
very
much
the
presentation
from
un
from
Ira.
The
first
question
is:
there's
a
is.
It
is
tonight,
there's
going
to
be
a
decision
on
the
direction
tonight
actually,
or
can
this
be
done
at
a
feature
meeting
or
in
a
few
months
I'd
like
to
get
some
feedback
on
that
and
the
idea
of
having
a
task
force?
Look
at
this!
It's
a
huge
decision.
S
The
I
have
some
ideas
and
I
think
a
task
force
would
flesh
out
whether
these
ideas
are
suitable
and
I.
Don't
mean
an
independent
task.
Force
I
mean
the
inclusive
of
of
City
staff,
and
you
heard
this
from
me
before
I
regard
Arcata
as
unique
and
I
think
we
can
might
have
a
unique
solution
here.
I
can
get
into
that
more
in
detail
at
the
risk
of
trying
to
tell
you
how
to
do
your
job,
so
I,
don't
think
you
can
possibly
make
a
decision
on
Direction
tonight.
S
There's
way
too
many
factors
I
again,
I
appreciated
the
presentation,
but
from
the
point
of
view
of
making
financial
decisions
again,
I'm.
Sorry,
if
it
sounds
like
I'm
telling
you
your
job-
and
you
know
this
I'm-
not
I'm,
there's
so
much
more
information.
That's
not
here
the
council
member
Stillman
alluded
to
some
of
them.
There
are
there's
a
there's,
a
section
about
the
risks
of
the
future.
S
We
don't
know
what
the
feature
is
going
to
bring,
obviously
so
to
make
a
decision
based
upon
what
seems
likely
now,
I
think
is,
could
get
us
into
more
trouble
in
the
future.
So
that's
my
two
cents,
the
if
I
can
help
I
know
I've
got
a
lot
of
my
plate
in
other
regards,
but
this
is
a
huge
situation
here
and
there's
a
lot
of
smart
people
around.
That
I'd
be
happy
to
be
a
part
of
that
group.
Thank
you.
C
C
We're
on
the
screen-
oh
probably
all
right
here
we
are
welcome
back
okay.
I
just
want
to
remind
the
council
that
we
are
not
making
any
final
decisions
tonight.
The
final
decisions
will
come
at
budget
setting.
So
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
making
a
recommendation
based
on
the
extensive
presentation
that
we
have
just
seen.
I
think
there
were
some
really
solid
recommendations
provided,
but
let's
hear
it.
H
I,
don't
have
any
further
questions,
I
think,
as
you
stated,
we're
just
giving
direction
as
to
what
to
pursue,
and
we
will.
You
know,
assess
that
out
and
go
over
the
final
budget.
So
I'm
I'm,
happy
to
proceed
with
I.
Will
we're
doing
an
emotion
on
this
so
I
will
I
will
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
presentation
and
to
direct
staff
to
move
forward
with
the
recommended
path
as
put
forth
in
the
presentation.
B
C
C
You
so
much
Tabitha
again
really
appreciate
the
time
that
you
spent
with
me
I
would
encourage
the
staff
to
make
a
little
appointment
to
get
some
fiscal
love,
because
she
really
knows
her
stuff.
All
right.
We
are
on
to
new
business.
It
is
time
to
appoint
up
to
two
new
members
to
The
Economic,
Development
Committee
for
terms
expiring,
September,
30th,
2024
and
one
new
member
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
a
term
expiring,
March,
31st
2027..
Is
there
any
discussion
that
we
want
to
have.
B
Well,
our
move
to
a
point
resident
Christopher,
P,
Alberts
and
Resident
Sophia
Ross
to
the
economic
development
committee.
C
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
do.
We
have
any
public
comment
on
the
economic
development
committee,
no
all
right
so
motion
on
a
second,
we
have
a
motion
by
council
member
Stillman
and
a
second
by
councilmember
white,
all
in
favor.
B
H
I
haven't
voted,
but
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
candidates
and
they're
very
qualified,
so
it
was
really
an
easy
decision
to
make
and
I
a
vote.
Yes.
B
Now
I
was
impressed
because,
with
their
planning
background,
I'm
thinking-
oh,
it's
wonderful
there'll,
be
an
economic
development,
helping
with
planning
and
so
forth,
because
we
really
need
it,
especially
after
our
last
conversation
meeting
thing
and
and
I'm
hoping
you
know.
Eventually,
it
would
be
like
a
place
that
they
eventually
could
learn
so
much
and
may
want
to
come
on
to
the
Planning
Commission
in
the
future.
C
C
B
W
So
just
wanted
to
do
kind
of
an
overview
of
the
process
and
the
procedure
that
we're
bringing
forward
to
you.
First
of
all,
if
you
went
through
the
Consolidated
fee
schedule
in
your
packet,
you'll
notice
that
it
was
about
40
pages
and
you
had
a
red
line
and
a
clean
version.
So
there's
quite
a
bit
there,
although
we're
consolidating
a
number
of
fees
into
one
schedule.
So
it's
all
in
one
place,
so
there's
one
place
to
go.
W
The
best
example
is
probably
your
water
and
wastewater
fees
that
went
through
a
218
process,
they've
gone
through
it
and
as
of
July
1st,
those
would
increase
whether
we
do
this
process
or
not,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
they're
all
in
one
place
and
they're
easily
accessible
for
the
public,
which
is
why
we're
doing
the
public.
We
did
public
notice.
We
made
the
fees
available
to
the
public
ahead
of
time.
W
You
have
a
public
hearing
where
folks
can
come
and
talk
about
and
provide
you
feedback
on
the
those
fees
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
government
code
requires
a
waiting
period
for
those
fees
to
go
into
effect,
and
it
ranges
between
a
minimum
of
30
and
60
days,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
cover
everything
and
we're
consistent
and
the
fees
all
get
increased
at
one
time.
We're
going
to
do
that.
July,
1st
2023,
which
is
also
when
your
water
and
wastewater
fees
were
set
to
raise,
so
it
just
makes
it
consistent.
W
Just
a
reminder
of
why
we're
doing
this,
the
the
goal
behind
looking
at
your
fees
is
to
recover
the
cost
to
providing
the
services
to
the
public
and
and
fees
are
different
than
taxes.
They're,
not
the
same.
Basically,
fees
collect
on
services
that
are
provided
for
for
the
the
benefit
of
individuals
and
probably
a
good
example
of
this
is
your.
W
Your
development
and
planning
fees
are
one
of
the
areas
that
you
probably
saw
that
there
were
significant
changes
in
those
kind
of
the
default
if
there
isn't
another
mechanism
like
the
Wastewater
fees
that
had
a
whole
rate
study
that
was
done
prior
in
Prior
years,
we
used
an
inflationary
index
and
the
city
has
incorporated
the
annual
change
in
the
cpiu,
which
is
all
Urban
consumers
for
the
U.S
city
average,
and
it's
the
annual
change
and
the
graph
up
here,
and
it's
also
in
the
staff
report,
is
really
to
show
sort
of
the
the
range
you
can
see
that
for
many
years,
for
about
five
or
six
years
there,
it
was
pretty
consistent
bounced
between
about
one
and
under
two
and
a
half
percent
everybody's.
W
Pretty
aware
that
we've
had
significant
inflation
in
the
last
two
years
and
eight
percent
I
know
seems
rather
large.
Part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
that
we
other
indexes
have
been
a
little
lower,
you'll,
see
indexes
that
show
it
at
seven,
seven
and
a
half
percent.
But
because
of
the
way
these
indexes
work,
you'll
see
that
in
2021
it
was
only
4.7
which
again
was
a
big
increase
I'm,
not
denying
that
we
all.
W
W
So
just
to
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
the
other
methods
that
were
used.
We've
already
talked
about
the
independent
fee
study
for
water
and
wastewater
user
rates.
We
will
also
sometimes
use
Market
rates
for
these.
What
the
mayor
the
market
can
bear
and
that
can
be
less
than
the
increase
in
cpiu
if
it's
appropriate
facility.
Rentals
is
one
of
those
areas.
W
We
chose
to
only
use
three
quarters
of
the
CPI
for
this
year,
and
even
that
was
is
a
big
increase,
but
we
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
consistent
with
what's
happening
in
other
other
surrounding
areas
as
far
as
the
facilities
and
that
we're
staying
competitive.
Many
of
the
fines,
penalties
and
vehicular
violations
are
tied
to
State
and
other
laws,
and
so
we
we
don't
increase
those
outside
of
those
mechanisms
and
then
councils
will
make
decisions
to
to
consciously
subsidize
fees
and
public
transportation.
W
Ridership
is
one
of
those
almost
everywhere
that
is
subsidized
somewhere
else.
It
doesn't
pay
for
itself
and
you
want
to
encourage
use
of
those
you.
Youth
programs
are
often
subsidized
to
to
encourage
use
of
those
Recreation
and
Community
programs
and
then
Economic
Development
A
lot
of
times.
You'll
you'll
help
subsidize
programs
as
they
get
off
the
ground
to
encourage
those
in
your
in
your
community
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this,
but
this
is
just
a
list
of
all
the
fees
that
did
not
see
increases
in
the
current
schedule.
W
This
is
your
Revenue
budget,
total
65.2
million
dollars
and
I
wanted
to
just
graphically
show
you
know
intergovernmental.
We
talked
about
this.
This
is
many
of
those
grants
and
funding
that
you
get
from
state
and
federal
government
taxes
is
the
next
largest
block
and
charges
for
service
is
really
your
water
and
wastewater
fees.
So
this
the
fees
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
are
the
charges
for
services
oops.
W
Charges
for
services
license
and
permits
a
small
portion
of
use
of
property
and
then
there's
a
little
tiny
bit
in
other
Revenue.
It's
about
25
percent
of
that
total
65.2
million
or
16.2
million
dollars,
and
again,
even
here,
Water
and
Wastewater
rates
make
up
about
82
percent
of
that
total
fees
that
are
charged
directly
to
individuals
who
are
benefiting
from
those,
and
we
can
certainly
open
it
up
for
questions
from
the
council.
C
Z
F
Read
a
pretty
interesting
article
in
the
New
York
Times
New
York
Times
is
hardly
a
conservative
paper
and
they
had
an
article
about
there's
quite
a
bit
of
younger
folks
from
the
state
of
California
that
are
moving
out
of
state
to
Red,
States
and
they're
moving
there,
because
you
know
things
like
building
permits
are
a
lot
less
taxes
are
a
lot
less
and
so
I
guess.
My
argument.
F
Sort
of
against
this
is
that
you're
basically
hurting
those
folks
that
by
doing
this,
because
you're
raising
all
these
rates
and
it'll
affect
housing
and
that's
part
of
the
basic
problem
with
all
this.
Is
that
we're
not
you
know
balancing
our
budget
like
we
should
we're
not
living
with
in
our
our
means.
If
we
were,
if
this
is
our
money
and
if
we're
at
home
it
would
be
a
whole
different
thing,
but
it
seems
like
with
government.
F
You
know
it's
a
whole
different
set
of
rules
that
you
can
just
kick
it
down
the
road
and
I'm,
not
picking
on
just
the
city
of
Arcata.
It's
affecting
the
federal
government
we're
a
31.1
trillion
dollars.
I
think
is
the
deficit
state
of
California's,
22.5
billion
dollars
and
state
of
California
had
a
had
a
lot
of
extra
money
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
they
haven't
so
I,
don't
think
they're
going
to
be
quite
throwing
around
Grant
monies.
So
much,
we've
already
seen
some
pretty
significant
cuts
and
sea
level
rise.
F
Funding
that
I
read
an
article
and
so
I.
Don't
know
what
to
say.
Are
there
other
aspect
of
it?
You
know
some
of
us,
like
you,
know
a
couple
years
ago,
evolved
with
building
permits
on
a
project,
and
you
know
I'm,
one
of
the
ones
that
paid
for
the
permits
and
so
I
have
a
prediction.
There's
there's
there's
already
a
lot
of
people
that
even
in
the
past,
aren't
paying
for
permits
they're
just
going
for
it
because
you
know
they
just
think
it's
too
high
and
they
can't
afford
it.
F
So
you're
probably
going
to
be
opening
it
up
to
more
people
in
that
other
other
camp
that
aren't
going
to
need
to
use
the
honor
System
and
pay
and
and
contribute
to
all
this
to
pay
so
yeah
it
just
it's
kind
of
tied
to
the
previous
subject
matter
that
you
know
we're
just
not.
You
know
where
you
have
a
big
deficit
on
your
budget
unless,
unless
those
figures
are,
are
wrong,
that
I
had
but
I
don't
think
they
were.
F
They
were
in
the
paper
and
also
that
night,
so
we're
we're
not
living,
and
now
we're
going
to
raise
all
these.
Our
revenue
is
going
to
come
from
Raising
all
these
fees,
which
are
basically
going
to
hurt
people
and
a
lot
of
people,
are
just
living
paid
check
to
paycheck,
even
with
wastewater
treatment
costs
with
funding
their
water
bills,
sewage,
electricity
everything's
going
up.
So
you
know
it's
unfortunate.
S
I
had
one
question:
you
said
that
sometimes
you
use
market
rate
fees,
that's
kind
of
what
is
more
appropriate
on
a
personal
or
level.
Is
that
that
be
it?
The
the
specific
example
I
want
to
give
is
the
cost
of
filing
an
appeal
of
a
Planning
Commission
decision,
which
has
gone
up
from
say
1867
to
about
20.
2017.
S
I
know
that
the
city
has
costs
I'm,
not
arguing
about
that,
but
it
puts
it
out
of
the
hands
of
an
individual
or
a
small
group
of
people
to
file
an
appeal.
We
have
that
the
Westwood
Gardens
appeal
you
very
happily
refunded
the
large
portion
of
that.
S
S
I've
said
before
I
filed
an
appeal
against
the
yeah,
the
project
in
1998
or
so
and
I
think
it
resulted
in
a
better
project,
in
fact
I'm
sure
of
it.
Okay,
because
it
opened
up
the
dialogue
for
that.
The
cost
then
was
175
dollars,
which
I
could
write
a
check
for,
but
to
write.
A
check
for
two
thousand
dollars
today
seems
excessive.
So
just
consideration
there
may
be
other
things.
S
I
just
picked
that
one
because
of
steer
to
me
that
can
some
fees
be
accommodated
a
little
bit
on
a
basis
of
it's
just
nice
to
run
a
government
for
for
the
citizens.
Thanks.
C
U
Just
because
I
mentioned
it
earlier
today,
a
lot
of
dogs
on
the
Plaza
and
I'm
just
curious.
What
the
percentage
we
think
of
dog
license
fees
are
collected
for
the
actual
number
of
dogs
that
live
in
our
community
I'm
sure
it's
not
as
big
a
percentage
as
the
Wastewater
and
sewage
fees
and
other
fees.
But
I
know
we
do
have
a
dog
license
fee
and
that
might
be
interesting
to
look
at.
C
Tabitha
is
this
just
a
public
hearing
now?
What
do
you
need
from
us.
AA
J
H
If
there
aren't
any
other
questions,
I
will
just
say
we
are
doing
business
in
the
state
of
California,
so
we
have
to
be
able
to
cover
our
costs
within
the
state.
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
we
adopt
resolution
number
223-50
or
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Arcata,
updating
the
master
fee
schedule
for
various
fees
and
service
charges
for
the
fiscal
year
of
2023-2024.
A
W
So
there's
actually
it
varies
from
fees
there's
it's
typically
by
law
at
least
30
days
on
some
and
up
to
60
days
on
others,
we're
doing
a
little
bit
beyond
that,
making
them
effective,
July
1st.
So
it's
going
to
be
you
know,
60
I
can't
do
the
math
it's
too
late,
60
or
71
days,
I
believe
until
they're
effective.
We
just
wanted
it
to
not
piece
Mill
those
in
place
and
make
it
difficult
to
follow
and
to
give
additional
time.
W
B
T
C
Okay,
so
are
you
happy.
J
C
All
right
motion
passes
unanimously
all
right
and
we
are
on
to
C,
consider
adopting
a
revised,
hiring
and
recruitment
incentive
program.
Administrative
policy
increased
the
lateral
police
officer,
hiring
incentive,
approving
retention,
bonus
for
current
police
officers
and
approving
Police
Department
physical
workplace.
Improvement
can
I
have
a
staff
report
from
assistant
city
manager,
Demello.
AA
The
staff
report
included
in
the
agenda
provides
in-depth
information
on
the
items
before
you
tonight,
but
we
did
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
highlight
some
key
items
for
each
of
the
considerations
before
you
in
January
of
2020.
We
were
fully
staffed
with
the
29
positions
currently
approved
to
be
filled
over
the
course
of
these
last
three
years.
We
have
lost
more
positions
than
we
have
been
able
to
fill
or
keep
filled.
We
currently
only
have
19
of
our
29
positions
filled
with
officers
who
can
be
on
the
street
right
now.
AA
That
leaves
us
with
a
34
percent
Staffing
deficit
or
down
one-third
of
our
sworn
staff
of
our
turn
current
vacancies.
We
have
one
confirmed,
hire
that
will
be
entering
this
July's
police
academy
and
two
more
in
background
as
potential
police
academy
trainees
the
academy
lasts
six
months,
and
then
they
will
have
a
three
to
four
month:
field,
training
period
after
graduating,
from
the
academy
before
they
are
able
to
independently
be
on
patrol.
AA
We
also
have
two
candidates
in
background
who
have
previously
completed
an
academy
but
have
not
yet
worked
as
a
police
officer.
We
have
a
month
or
two
before
they
would
be
cleared
to
start
and
once
they
do
we'll
have
a
three
to
four
month
filled
training
period
before
they
are
able
to
independently
be
on
patrol.
AA
This
puts
our
focus
more
on
what
we
can
do
to
attract
seasoned
trained
lateral
officers,
who
only
need
one
to
two
months
of
field
training
before
they
are
independently
able
to
fill
a
shift
spot.
Our
average
cost
to
sponsor
an
academy
trainee
is
about
sixty
five
thousand
dollars.
This
includes
costs
for
Academy
registration,
clothing
equipment.
AA
Staff
recommendation
is
to
increase
the
current
lateral
officer,
hiring
incentive
from
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
fifty
thousand
paid
out
over
two
and
a
half
years.
A
majority
of
the
incentive
would
be
received
within
the
first
nine
months
of
the
lateral
officer's
employment.
This
amount
will
allow
us
to
be
more
competitive
with
with
most
other
agencies
throughout
the
state
and
will
provide
assistance
for
those
who
might
consider
relocating
to
our
area
or
to
be
able
to
secure
housing
or
otherwise
help
help
offset
other
benefits.
AA
Secondly,
the
item
second
item
we
have
before
you
two
is
with
so
much
turnover
in
such
a
short
period
of
time.
It
is
also
shining
a
brighter
light
on
those
current
staff
that
we
that
have
remained
truly
dedicated
to
the
city
and
to
our
Arcata
Community,
and
while
there
are
certainly
many
Temptations
out
there
for
them
to
be
a
lateral
transfer
elsewhere,
they
continue
to
choose
to
serve
here
with
the
current
Staffing
situation.
AA
This
has
caused
our
current
staff
to
work
a
tremendous
amount
of
overtime
and
suspend
other
necessary
and
priority
special
assignments
that
are
part
of
the
attraction
to
officers
at
any
Department
to
recognize
and
incentivize.
The
retention
of
these
seasoned
dedicated
officers
staff
is
recommending
the
implementation
of
a
retention
bonus
of
7
500
paid
out
once
per
year
for
three
years.
AA
Council
approval
would
include
authorization
for
the
city
manager
to
develop
the
details
of
the
program,
but
would
be
structured
for
the
first
payment
to
be
in
June
of
2024
and
annually
thereafter
in
2025
and
2026.,
and
then,
lastly,
before
you,
we
have
in
recent
exit
interviews
with
departing
officers.
We
have
seen
a
theme
that
one
of
the
lures
to
other
agencies
has
been
the
quality
of
the
physical
work,
environment
and
Equipment
of
the
other
agencies.
AA
H
H
Some
of
those
concerns
include
Traffic,
Safety,
more
of
a
presence
in
Valley
West
or
a
substation
in
Valley
West,
the
plaza
encampments
and
other
quality
of
life
impacts,
theft,
broken
windows,
patrols
of
Open
Spaces,
including
the
marsh
Community
forest
and
Parks.
More
of
a
presence
in
our
schools,
a
resource
officer,
emergency
preparedness
for
critical
incidents,
drug
and
specifically
fentanyl
education
and
enforcement.
Apd
has
not
had
representation
on
the
drug
force
or
County
drug
task
force
for
over
a
year
and
community
outreach.
H
So,
for
example,
we
funded
an
Outreach
Sergeant
position
to
help
people
in
crisis
to
work
with
our
and
Lead
our
community
ambassadors,
as
well
as
the
Mist
program
in
that
Sergeant
Luke
scone,
who
I
understand,
is
now
back
on
patrol
because
of
the
low
Staffing
APD
is
working
incredibly
hard
and
has
stretched
dangerously
thin
and
I.
Believe
it's
our
responsibility.
Not
only
to
keep
our
community
supported
and
safe,
but
to
do
the
same
for
APD
since
I
was
elected
in
2020.
H
I
have
heard
our
community
asking
even
demanding,
at
times
an
increase
in
Staffing
in
our
Police
Department.
So
in
a
time
when
it's
not
the
most
popular
to
be
in
law
enforcement,
especially
in
our
state,
and
we
have
to
do
what
we
must
to
recruit
the
very
best
candidates
for
our
community
and
to
retain
and
support
the
wonderful
team
that
we
currently
have
so
I
do
support
this.
B
A
I
had
a
couple
questions:
are
we
in
Jeopardy
of
being
down
our
detective
as
well?
Is
that
something
that
we
need
to
be
concerned
about.
Y
A
W
That
is
partially
true.
One
of
the
challenges
is
that,
in
order
to
even
meet
those
minimum
fun,
those
minimum
Staffing
levels,
they
are
relying
pretty
heavily
in
that
department
on
overtime,
so
you're
paying
more
per
hour
and
you're
also
sort
of
stretching
your
your
folks,
then
so
to
a
point,
that's
true,
but
we're
not
running
efficiently.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you.
I
am
also
in
favor
of
Staffing,
our
Police
Department,
so
that
they
can
do
their
job.
AA
It
was
20
000
and
we've
heard
a
rumor
that
it
is
maybe
a
once
our
staff
report
came
out.
It
is
50,
000
is
the
rumor.
We
don't
know
that
for
sure,
but
that's
our
understanding.
Sure.
C
And
it's
only
the
lateral
transfers
that
are
going
to
be
eligible
for
this.
AA
Correct
we
do
have
a
the
hiring
incentive
program.
That's
currently,
in
effect,
does
already
allow
a
three
thousand
dollar
bonus
for
someone.
That's
graduated
from
the
academy,
so
ready
to
you
know,
hit
the
ground
in
about
three
or
four
months,
but
that
is
a
different
category
than
lateral
lateral
will
be.
Somebody
that
has
been
a
police
officer
is
currently
is
one.
Y
Y
We
preemptively
have
updated
our
flyers
and
hope
that
you
know
this
would
be
the
message
and
we're
so
so
appreciative,
so
we're
going
to
use
a
social
media
we'll
be
working
with
our
Personnel
Department
to
update
all
of
our
local
advertising,
as
well
as
prep
our
flyer
for
our
poorak
magazine,
where
we
can
run
a
full
page
ad
for
upwards
of
a
year
to
really
highlight
these
in
enhanced
incentives
to
fill
this
desperate
need
right
now,.
C
Y
You
know
that
that
question
has
come
up
and
I
I
can
only
speak.
For
myself
is
we
we
are
not
going
to
engage
in
in
a
bidding
process
for
police
officers.
A
fifty
thousand
dollar
commitment
on
part
of
our
city
council
is
is
a
huge
statement.
Now
our
assistant
city
manager
has
talked
about
perhaps
expanding
into
other
areas
where
we
can
separate
ourselves
from
other
cities
through
incentivizing,
perhaps
relocation
reimbursement-
maybe
some
housing
allowance,
maybe
to
help
reimburse
for
child
care
school
costs.
Y
So
there's
other
ways
that
we
can
incentivize
come
into
Arcata
to
continue
your
law
enforcement
career
with
a
city
who
supports
police
officers
so
but
I
I
would
not
recommend
to
the
city
to
get
involved
in
a
bidding
contest.
C
Y
They
work
12-hour
shifts
three
days
one
week
four
days
another
week
on
the
three
day
week,
they
work
a
a
an
eight
hour
shift
to
to
make
up
for
some
hours,
you're
talking
about
officers
who
not
only
are
working
Patrol
but
have
to
go
to
court,
and
typically
you
know,
obviously,
if
they're
working
overnight,
they
have
to
stay
up
and
go
to
court
during
the
day
they
have
to
go
to
training
and
because
of
our
staffing
shortage,
we
have
had
to
ask
officers
to
work
additional
overtime,
to
adjust
their
days
off,
to
change
them
from
working
days
to
working
nights
and
to
the
credit
of
everyone
within
the
organization
they're
rolling
up
their
sleeves.
Y
They
know
it's
a
tough
time
and
they're
willing
to
do
what
they
can
to
keep
our
communities
safe,
but
it
is
taking
a
toll.
People
are
exhausted,
their
their
fatigue,
both
mentally
and
physically
and
they're.
Just
looking
for
a
little
bit
of
hope,
you
know
that
there's
going
to
be
this
safety
net
coming
here
in
the
near
future,.
Z
Hello,
I'm
Leslie,
Johnson
I'm,
an
honorable
Army
veteran
as
well
as
I
work
in
Fisheries,
biology
and
Waterway
remediation
I
would
like
to
start
by
addressing
law
enforcement
is
not
a
popularity
contest,
it's
about
whether
they
are
effective
at
their
work
or
not.
So
I'd
like
to
start
there
I'm
personally
here
because
of
the
article
in
the
paper
today,
where
you
were
urging
people
that
have
been
roofied
to
report
their
experience
with
being
roofied.
Z
In
that
article,
you
said
that
you
didn't
know:
roofies
were
happening
on
Arcata
Square
survivors
absolutely
should
not
be
subjected
to
the
police.
The
police's
lack
of
integrity
and
toxic
masculinity,
female
police
included
survivors
are
not
proving
ourselves
to
you,
anymore.
Z
Z
Z
F
Okay,
we
we
don't
have
enough
police
in
town
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
problems
that
are,
you
know
we
might
think
of
minor
problems,
but
they
affect
all
our
lives
and
I
brought
this
up
a
couple
number
of
times
about
the
woman
that
was
killed
in
the
crosswalk.
F
But
you
know
my
observation
is
that
nobody
ever
gets
a
ticket
in
this
town
from
the
standpoint
of
speeding,
I've,
never
seen
it
happen
and
I
also
I
mean
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
police
about
this
in
the
past,
along
with
the
noise
issue
of
a
number
of
our
vehicles
from
the
youth
or
whatever
age,
they
are
that,
basically,
you
know
make
them
sound
like
f-16s,
going
down
the
street
all
different
times
of
the
night.
F
Waking
people
up,
you
know,
and
that
affects
you
know:
health
of
young
kids,
all
the
way
for
the
elderly,
and
so
these
are
kind
of
like
minor
things,
but
they
add
up
because
someone's
going
to
die,
I
mean
we
there
I
think
their
focus
is
more
on
violent
crime
because
of
the
lack
of
numbers
in
the
police
department.
That's
what
I
hear
from
them,
but
they
also
said
that
they
need
support
from
the
city
council
from
the
standpoint
on
these
minor
things
too,
because
they
said
that
it's
not
a
priority.
F
That
was
the
answer
when
I
started
like
15
months
ago,
addressing
you
guys.
Well,
not
all
of
you,
two
of
you
weren't
on
the
on
the
council
from
the
standpoint
like.
Why
is
everyone
I'm
not
interested
in
enforcing
the
laws
and,
unfortunately,
when
people
feel
they
can
get
away
with
things,
then
more
of
them?
Unfortunately,
do
the
same
thing
so
I
think
this
is
going
to
lead
to
some
lawsuit
in
the
future.
F
If
we
don't
take
care
of
it
because
someone's
going
to
get
killed-
and
you
know
maybe
it's
a
crosswalk-
maybe
it's
you
know
it's
a
jam
in
an
argument
afterwards,
which
we've
seen
that
and
we
don't
have
enough
people
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
handle
that,
and
it's
going
to
be
another
messy
situation
and
that's
what
I'm
seeing
I'd?
Also
because,
with
increase
of
the
students
that
we're
going
to
get
when
I
was
in
UC
Santa
Barbara,
they
had
their
own
University
Center.
F
S
The
conversation
is
tends
to
be
about
getting
up
to
a
fully
staffed
number,
which
is
case.
29
I
have
not
been
involved
in
this.
Perhaps
this
has
been
done
before,
but
I
would
like
to
see
a
budget
for
increasing
that
number
and
what
it
would
take
to
have
a
larger
number
of
police
in
our
Force.
The
idea
of
housing,
housing
incentives
I
would
definitely
like
to
pursue
that
I
think
there's
a
variety
of
ways
that
can
be
done
on
a
creative
basis
when
we
get
to
the
sales
tax.
The
session
we'll
have
that
separately.
S
C
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Joanna
Gary
and
I
just
want
to
personally
let
the
council
know
that
Chief
Ahern
has
particularly
been
very,
very
helpful
to
me
on
issues
that
I've
had
to
deal
with
in
this
city
and
I've
also
had
very
great
conversations
and
rapport
with
other
police
officers
on
different
matters.
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
more
police
on
on
duty
and
in
our
town,
but
I
also
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
is
not
rely
on
the
police
so
much
for
things
that
could
be
prevented.
U
So
when
we're
looking
at
a
lot
of
issues,
we
want
to
be
a
town
that
the
police
want
to
come
to
because
it's
you
know
getting
closer
to
Mayberry
than
it
is
to
you
know,
Gotham
or
whatever
so
I,
just
really
thank
Chief
Ahern
for
all
his
help.
For
me,
as
a
citizen
in
my
needs
and
I
do
hope
that
we
can
create
whatever
type
of
environment
that
will
allow
people
to
want
to
work
here
in
the
police
in
law
enforcement.
U
C
All
right
before
we
go
back
to
the
council
I
want
to
address
Leslie.
Is
that
your
name
all
right?
I
know
how
hard
it
was
for
you
to
come
and
stand
in
front
of
us
and
speak
your
truth
and
I
really
appreciate
that
I
was
going
to
talk
about
roofies
at
Council
reports,
but
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
address
it
now.
C
I
know
some
people
have
telling
me
that
it's
been
a
huge
problem.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
I've
reached
out
to
several
of
the
bars
in
town
and
everybody's
assured
me
that
they
are
going
to
you
know,
retrain
their
staff
and
be
super
Vigilant
I
took
it
upon
myself
to
order
I,
think
60,
test
strips
from
Amazon,
please
contact
me
I
will
give
somebody
I
will
give
them
to
whoever
wants
and
I
need
to
order
more
I
will,
and
this
is
something
that
Joanne
was
talking
about.
Sometimes
it's
about.
H
So
I
I,
don't
have
any
more
questions,
but
I
did
want
to
I
did
want
to
respond
to
a
public
comment
too,
and
just
let
the
community
know.
I
have
received
a
ticket
in
Arcata
for
traffic
violations.
Granted
it
was
okay,
so
was
Joanne
granted
it
was
a
many
years
ago
and
we
were
probably
more
staffed
than
we
are
now,
but
it
does
happen
and
I
wasn't
happy
about
it.
A
A
J
H
Okay,
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
adopt
a
revised,
hiring
and
recruitment
incentive
program.
Administrative
policy
increased
to
lateral
police
officer,
hiring
incentive
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
paid
over
two
and
a
half
years
approve
a
retention
bonus
for
current
police
officers,
7.5
thousand
dollars
annually
over
three
years
and
approve
up
to
sixty
thousand
dollars
for
Police
Department
physical
workplace
improvements.
B
C
J
C
C
All
right,
it
is
time
for
oral
written
Communications.
The
city
appreciates
public
input.
This
time
is
provided
for
people
to
address
the
council
or
submit
written
Communications
on
matters
not
on
the
agenda.
Please
know
that,
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
the
council
cannot
discuss
or
take
action
on
items
that
are
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
At
the
end
of
all
oral
and
written
Communications,
the
council
May
respond
to
statements
supported
requests
that
require
Council
action
will
be
set
by
the
council
for
a
future
agenda
or
referred
to
staff.
C
Speakers
addressing
the
council
tonight
are
limited
to
three
minutes.
If
you
are
in
person
and
wanting
to
give
public
comment,
please
line
up
at
the
podium.
Please
raise
your
hand
if
you're
on
Zoom,
webinar
or
press
nine.
Now,
if
you're
on
the
phone-
and
you
would
like
to
make
public
comment,
speakers
are
limited
to
three
minutes.
When
it
is
your
time
for
public
comment,
you
will
be
unmuted
and
invited
to
speak.
So,
if
you're
in
person
in
which
to
make
a
public
comment,
please
get
in
line
and
get
going.
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Joanna
Gary
and,
if
anybody's
watching
this
on
reruns
on
access,
Humboldt
or
YouTube
or
whatever,
please,
you
know,
come
come
on
down
to
these
meetings
because
I
don't
want
to
be
the
only
one
or
one
of
very
few
who
speak
up
here.
U
We
need
to
not
fear
to
experiment
with
things
and
try
things
and
do
pilots
and
be
very
creative,
and
even
you
know,
Forward
Thinking
in
trying
to
correct
or
solve
or
make
better
our
community
issues
and
one
of
the
things
a
couple
of
things
and
I
talked
about
being
brave,
but
I
also
talked
to
previous
meetings
about
braiding
braiding
ideas
together
so
be
brave
and
braid,
and
what
I'm
thinking
about
is
I'm
going
to
just
say
this.
U
You
know
I
envision,
dealing
with
the
unhoused
and
many
of
the
issues
that
involve
people
in
very
vulnerable
positions
in
our
city,
really
thinking
differently
and
I
was
inspired
by
San
Antonio's
model
of
creating
a
center
in
part
of
their
town
that
had
multi-services
and
I.
U
Think
Arcata
could
try
by
taking
what's
the
transit
center
and
the
annex
area
and
that
whole
parking
area
and
dedicating
that
for
a
time
to
those
issues
and
to
the
people
in
need
there
and
having
much
more
vigorous
services
available
for
more
periods
of
time
during
the
day
and
night,
and
not
just
relying
necessarily
on
what
agency
or
organization
and
trying
to
really
create
community
services
and
get
a
lot
of
the
community
involved.
U
There
are
people
out
there
who
will
volunteer
to
help
because
we
want
to
help
on
this
issue,
and
that
means
that
our
buses,
that
I
talked
about
earlier
too,
that
don't
go
up
to
Redwood
Park,
where
we're
having
an
800
000
playground
built.
So
maybe
we
gotta
consider
moving
temporarily
our
bus
station
to
a
more
visible
place
and
maybe
a
place
like
where
the
car
wash
is
at
K
and
10th.
U
That
used
to
historically
be
when
we're
talking
about
historical
landmarks
and
things
like
that,
the
train
station,
so
we
really
need
to
braid
ideas
together,
so
that
we
can
have
a
really
vibrant
and
positive
Community
for
all
of
the
people
who
live
here
and
just
try
these
things
experiment
a
little.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Joanne.
F
This
goes
back
to
the
28th
meeting
that
we
had
quite
a
bit
of
information,
saying
it
wasn't
such
a
great
idea.
These
areas
that
were
the
former
Wetland
areas
so
I
mean
I,
have
not
only
me.
A
lot
of
other
people
in
town
have
issues
with
from
the
standpoint
that
we
believe
in
sea
level,
global
warming.
F
But
when
we
listened
to
the
experts,
we
don't
seem
to
be
quite
in
agreement
with
them
and
then
not
only
that
we
take
it
one
step
further,
but
we
say
that
the,
for
example,
the
gate
way
area
is
some
some
way.
An
answer
to
global
warming
because
of
the
the
amount
of
people
that
you're
going
to
put
in
there
and
also
the
heights
of
the
building,
it's
going
to
be
walkable
and
all
those
things
so
I
mean
that
doesn't
really
quite
make
sense
at
all.
So
I
want
you
to
for
anyone.
That's
going
that
route!
F
I
really
want
you
to
think
about
that
a
little
bit
further,
and
also
because
of
what
was
going
on
with
mentioning
this
evening
with
the
police
and
drugs.
Sometimes
when
I
had
projects,
for
example,
I
traveled
to
Mexico
and
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
Mexico-
and
you
know
just
I'm
sure,
you're
aware
that
there's
millions
of
people
from
our
Southern
borders
that
are
are
crossing
the
border
and
a
lot
of
them
are
getting
Asylum
because
of
the
drug
wars
that
are
going
on
in
Mexico,
and
it's
not
only
Mexico.
F
It's
also
in
Colombia,
when
I
went
to
Columbia,
basically
the
whole
the
hotel
room
door
had
it
had
a
whole
message
about
how
disappointed
they
are
in
Americans
and
Europeans
that
are
buying
drugs
in
that
country
are
in
your
country
because
it
explained
how
basically
250
000
Colombians
have
died
because
of
the
drug
wars
in
the
past
and
Mexico.
It's
hundreds
of
thousands
and
it's
not
just
people
that
are
in
the
drug
trade
that
are
getting
killed
in
Mexico.
F
There's
numerous
women
that
have
just
disappeared
off
the
streets,
so
it
seems
like
we
need
to
have
like
a
little
bit
of
a
position
on.
You
know
why
these
things
are
happening
and-
and
not
just
you
know,
sort
of
excuse
the
behavior
of
people
in
towns
and
in
the
U.S,
because
I
mean
these
people
are
really
hurtful
when
I've
lived
there
and
and
talked
to
them
about.
F
C
C
AB
Hi
everyone-
you
know,
I
probably
could
have
added
this
comment
to
the
last
topic,
but
it's
a
little
bit
more
nuanced,
like
some
of
my
comments
are
so
it's
probably
better
here,
but
in
the
about
Law
and
Order.
AB
As
far
as
increasing
the
population
there's
going
to
be
challenges
that
are
presented
with
that
and
a
lot
of
times
when
I
talk
about
this
kind
of
stuff
with
y'all,
it's
my
I'd
like
to
focus
on
protecting
the
Commonwealth
by
supporting
our
local
business
culture
and
local
economy,
because
the
the
problems
that
are
pressurized
when
the
wealth
Gap
increases
are
the
you
know
the
reason
that
population
density
like
building
a
ton
of
housing
doesn't
always
solve
houselessness
right,
because
there's
still
going
to
be
people
who
are
suffering
from
the
situation.
AB
That
is
not
just
lack
of
housing,
but
lack
of
Commonwealth
and
lack
of
opportunity.
Because
of
you
know,
basically,
really
big
businesses
who
have
set
up
their
empire
to
kind
of
run.
Everything
and
the
people
who
work
for
them
and
the
people
who
consume
from
them
are
the
ones
who
end
up
suffering
the
most
and
so
Arcata
kind
of
has
a
lot
going
for
it
right
now,
as
far
as
access
to
Natural
amenities
and
a
local
business
culture.
Even
if
we
lost
our
major
export,
you
know
every
decade
that
we
had
one.
AB
We
still
have
the
local
kind
of
Commerce
mentality,
so
I
think
that
that's
something
really
important
to
to
protect
and
to
cherish
and
then
also
when
I
was
in
San
Luis
Obispo.
Recently,
I
I
got
to
speak
with
some
of
the
people
who
were
there
and
some
of
the
people
who
were
there
houseless,
and
they
had
mentioned
that
they
felt
like
it
was
almost
illegal
to
be
houseless
because
they
weren't
fitting
in
with
the
student
culture
and
the
look
and
the
feel
that
the
town
was
going
for
felt
like
they
couldn't
get.
AB
You
know
get
ahead
in
life
being
there
and
that's
kind
of
a
pretty
common
issue
that
happens
with
like
major
cities,
where
there
isn't
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
people
to
you
know,
have
a
home
and
a
good
life
worth
living
and
access
to
Goods
that
are
gonna.
You
know,
keep
them
healthy
and
happy.
Then,
of
course
the
Law
and
Order
situation.
AB
You
know
deals
with
people
who
were
desperate
or
seeking
some
kind
of
relief
or
escape,
and
these
problems
it's
we
got
to
take
care
of
it
early
and
that's
a
delicate
situation,
a
nightmare
that
I
I
never
would
like
to
see
happen.
Is
it
being
unsafe
to
take
a
walk
in
Redwood
Park?
That
would
be
a
total
nightmare
and
that's
something
that
we
should
consider
is
we
have
a
lot
more
people
how
we
can
keep
everybody
happy.
C
C
All
right,
we
are
going
to
go
ahead
with
Council
and
staff
reports.
Are
there
any
staff
updates
council
member
updates
start
down
there.
A
So
today,
I
attended
as
the
liaison
for
the
city,
the
homeless,
housing
working
group.
Arcata
Health
Partnership
was
excited
to
share
that
they
had
completed
the
pool,
fill
for
the
extreme
weather
shelter
in
Valley
West
at
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
The
Grove
West
Village,
the
other
home,
keep
Motel
conversion.
Dankos
has
postponed
to
July.
Hopefully
that
will
come
to
fruition
soon
than
later
home.
Key
3
applications
can
be
coming
soon,
so
hopefully
we
can
do
more
for
unhoused
community
and
those
who
are
struggling
to
be
unhoused
I'll,
be
attending
tomorrow.
A
The
arcade
house
partnership
board
meeting
as
the
city
liaison
last
week.
I
attended
our
space,
the
homeless
arts
project
for
our
Cata
house,
Playhouse
I
mean,
and
there
was
a
great
turnout
on
Saturday
April
8th.
We
had
nearly
60
people
turn
out
to
our
Marsh
cleanup
with
pack
up
Green
Team,
all
of
Arcata
city
council
was
there,
as
was
Jen
Dart
and
some
other
folks
from
our
staff,
and
also
Mike
Wilson.
A
Our
Board
of
Supervisors
on
April
6
Senator
McGuire,
held
a
press
conference
here
at
City
Hall
to
announce
the
one
million
dollars
of
additional
funding
for
the
Carlson
Park
improvements,
which
is
out
in
Bali
West.
Making
the
total
of
grant
funding
to
be
a
2.5
million
and
kuna
was
integral
in
getting
these
grants
with
the
adoption
of
Carlson
Park
their
community
cleanups
in
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
the
park
which
set
the
stage
for
ongoing
events
that
have
been
a
previously
unused
Park.
A
So
it's
going
to
be
a
boon
not
just
two
Valley
West
but
of
course,
all
of
our
data
and
tourism.
So,
hopefully,
they'll
stay
an
extra
day
when
they
see
our
beautiful
park
with
all
of
these
new
amenities.
Kuna,
as
you
may
know,
was
the
first
in
Humboldt
County.
To
do
a
participatory
budget
process
excited
to
say
that
another
new
municipality
Eureka
picked
that
up
and
we're
getting
ready
to
do
round.
Two
we
just
kicked
it
off,
did
a
participatory
budget
process.
A
Our
first
event
was
at
the
Grove,
which
is
the
homeless,
Supportive
Housing
project
out
in
Valley
West,
and
we're
gearing
up
for
our
second
engagement.
At
our
temporary
housing
at
the
Comfort
Inn
with
Cal
Poly
Humboldt
students
and
who
will
be
making
their
home
in
Valley
West
for
the
next
two
or
three
years,
while
permanent
student
housing
is
being
built
and
what
else
oh
kuna
will
be
tabling
this
weekend
at
an
event
for
Earth
Day,
the
decolonizing
economic
Summit
at
Pearson,
Park
I
just
want
to
wish
everyone
a
happy
Earth
Day
coming
soon.
B
Okay,
so
one
of
the
yeah
one
of
the
things
I
keep
thinking
about
is
is
in
our
inspection
program
that
we
have
that
we
are
not
including
single
family,
rental,
housing
and
I'm.
I
know
that
there's
issues
there
and
I'm
told
by
people
that
have
looked
for
housing.
B
The
conditions
of
the
single-family
rental
housing
is
not
in
good
shape
and
I
would
like
to
see
us
figure
out
a
way
to
do
that
also
I'm
thinking
about
what
can
we
do
about
the
empty
housing
that
we
happen
to
have
right
now,
people
that
haven't
re-finished
their
houses
and
that
have
units
that
would
be
available
for
us
or
the
ones
that
are
bordered
up
and
I
would
like
to
see
what
kind
of
a
system
or
what
can
we
do
about
that?
I
know.
B
Eureka
is
talking
about
what
to
do
about
empty
commercial
buildings
and
if
the
residential
buildings,
and
how
to
put
some
kind
of
a
fine
on
them
or
something
and
I'm
thinking
that.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
into
that
too,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
all
our
housing
is
actually
we
have
housing
and
that
we
just
don't
have
things
like
down
here.
Boarded
up,
and
you
know
your
place
is
needs
to
finish
up
and
and
we
need
to
get
the
housing
out.
B
On
another
note,
we
had
a
great
time
with
goblet
days,
migratory
bird
Festival.
We
had
a
great
attendance
and
we
had
two
wonderful
staff,
people
from
the
city
of
Arcado
Milo
and
will
they
did
a
fantastic
job
and
the
gobbert
days
board
is
really
proud
of
them,
and
thank
thank
them
very
much
for
doing
that.
We
had
Friday
night.
We
had
over
300
people
attend
the
talk
about
the
Condors.
B
It
was
very
successful
all
the
way
around
the
first
time
in
four
years
that
we've
been
in
person,
so
I
think
that's
about
all
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
I
think
what
it
was
post.
It's
not
postponed,
but
they
have
a
additional
work
to
be
done
on
the
Red
Roof
Inn,
and
that's
why
it's
taking
longer
construction
isn't
as
fast
as
you
always
wish.
It
would
be,
and
sometimes
it
takes
longer
and
I-
don't
think
the
term
postpone
is
correct.
I
think
it's
just
there's
additional
work.
That
needs
to
be
done.
C
Thank
you,
I'll
just
mention,
since
councilmember
Schaefer
isn't
here
that
the
28th
is
the
20th
anniversary
of
Redwood
Coast,
Energy
Authority,
it's
very
exciting
Milestone
and
everybody
have
a
great
Earth
Day.
Thank
you.
H
I
own
I
only
have
a
few
things.
We
Main
Street
did
a
block
party
on
H
Street
on
the
Plaza,
welcoming
three
new
downtown
businesses
last
Friday,
and
that
was
really
successful
and
fun.
They're
still
planning
the
oyster
festival
and
a
lot
of
Renewed
Energy
and
ideas
for
that.
So
that's
pretty
exciting.
I
I
have
my
hcog
monthly
meeting
tomorrow,
so
I'll
be
able
to
report
out
on
that
next
month
and
then,
finally,
there
on
on
Saturday,
we
there
was
a
run.
H
A
Justice
for
Josiah
run,
marking
the
six-year
anniversary
of
his
murder
and
just
wanted
to
bring
two
attention
that
the
city,
manager
and
I
were
there
and
participated
and
they're
still
looking
for
people
to
come
forward
for
it
with
information
on
that
night.
So
they
can.
You
know,
solve
that
crime
thanks.
A
If
I
add
just
one
more
thing,
Earth
Day,
I
forgot,
Humboldt
Pat
will
be
doing
a
cleanup
from
10
o'clock
at
the
Arcado
Marsh.
So
we
just
want
to
keep
that
energy
going
and
they'll
be
giving
out
all
kinds
of
bonuses
for
those
who
collect
the
most
litter
come.
B
C
All
right
dates
of
future
meetings.
Do
we
have
a
change
to
our
budget
meeting.