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City of Arcata Live Stream
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Good
evening,
everybody
and
welcome
to
our
March
28th
joint
study
session
of
the
Arcata
city
council
and
the
Arcata
Planning
Commission
on
sea
level,
rise
and
I'm,
so
glad
that
everybody
is
here.
So
as
this
is
a
special
study
session,
we
will
take
public
comment
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
only
for
items
that
are
on
the
agenda.
We
would
like
to
start
the
presentation
part
of
our
meeting
no
later
than
6
30
to
respect
our
panelists
time.
A
So
we
will
be
limiting
public
comment
to
25
minutes
or
maybe
a
little
more
because
we're
getting
started
right
on
time
here.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
making
public
comments,
just
so
I
can
kind
of
gauge
how
many
people
we
have
please
either.
You
know
rise
yourself
up
to
to
line
up
behind
the
podium
here
or,
if
you're
on
Zoom,
please
press
star
9
to
raise
your
hand
or
raise
your
hand
on
Zoom
or
press
star
nine,
if
you're
coming
in
via
phone
and
wish
to
make
comments.
A
And
so
the
purpose
of
tonight's
meeting
is
to
learn
from
our
presenters
on
the
current
trends
of
sea
level
rise
and
how
they're
affecting
our
long-term
planning.
This
is
a
general
Citywide
discussion
and
not
specifically
on
the
Gateway
topic.
The
council
and
Planning
Commission
are
here
to
learn
and
ask
questions
to
our
experts
about
decisions
that
we
will
make
over
the
next
many
months.
A
B
The
California
Coastal
act,
chapter
3,
Coastal,
resources,
planning
and
management
policies,
article
8
sea
level,
rise,
section,
30270,
considerations
of
effective
sea
level
rise.
The
commission
still
take
into
account
the
effects
of
sea
level
rise
and
Coastal
resource
planning
and
management
policies
and
activities
in
order
to
identify,
assess
and,
to
the
extent
feasible,
avoid
and
mitigate
the
adverse
effects
of
sea
level
rise.
This
is
like
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we're
going
to
be
facing
also
under
the
local
Coastal
program
update
Grant.
B
This
was
a
grant
that
the
city
of
Arcata
got
4-1
2019
to
12
31
to
2020.
The
city
response
was
in
this
grant.
The
city
of
Arcadia
will
develop
a
coastal
zoning
ordinance
that
reflects
the
new
policy
Direction,
including
developing
policies
and
programs,
to
avoid
building
in
areas
affected
by
sea
level
rise
in
coastal
zone.
B
Also,
the
grand
jury
report
that
the
city
account
the
in
the
city,
arcades
Council
council's
response
to
the
2021-2022
grand
jury
report
to
the
Sea
Also
Rises
to
judge
Hendricks.
Your
response
was
Finding.
Nine
59
Arcata
city
council
also
believes
that
the
city's
work
to
increase
infill
Housing
Development
outside
the
hazard
zone
is
a
critical
component
of
the
regency's
sea
level
and
adaptions
response.
B
C
C
So
for
the
king
tide,
events
in
2050,
the
flood
water
level
will
be
near
or
higher
than
11
feet
above
sea
level
rise
a
sea
level
in
the
near
future,
with
Insurance
Underwriters
in
will
Insurance
Center
Riders
ensure
Construction
in
low
elevation
sites,
sites
that
are
less
than
or
equal
to
10
feet
elevation
in
Arcata.
Can
you
confirm
if
the
insurance
underwriting
is
currently
addressed
in
the
housing
element
of
the
GPU
and
the
Gateway
plan?
Thank
you.
D
I,
don't
want
to
go
into
specifics
about
all
this,
because
all
the
experts
will
talk
about
it
and
Gregory
alluded
to
the
laws
and
the
impact
of
sea
level
rise
in
our
coastal
zone
worldwide.
It's
the
effects
are
being
seen
in
the
South
Pacific
and
elsewhere
before
they're
hitting
our
Shores,
but
as
I
speak
up
often
at
these
meetings,
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
to
have
Vision
be
Visionaries,
be
Leaders
with
long-term
Vision
about
the
the
thrivability
of
our
community
that
we're
all
living
in.
D
D
A
E
Hello
to
Commissioners
and
council
members
and
staff
and
all
the
panel
members
appreciate
this
I'm
actually
a
little
off
script
here,
but
it's
relates
to
just
a
little
bit
of
the
pace.
That's
going
on
right
now
with
the
process,
and
so
yesterday,
at
the
Planning
Commission,
there's
attempted
to
accelerate,
through
the
completion
of
vision,
statement
and
land
lease
element.
Revisions
on
the
general
plan,
doing
so
more
of
like
a
lightning
round
approach
to
a
work
in
progress,
a
minim
school
time
limits
gave
way
to
some
longer
discussion
by
the
end
of
the
session.
E
They
all
question
the
instrumental
task
of
presenting
the
position,
the
revision
of
the
general
Cloud
element
to
bed
Noble
by
June
2023.
He
will
then
distill
it
into
form-based
codes,
but
Noble
would
then
present
our
first
draft
in
the
form
of
phone-based
codes
in
July
of
2023
to
the
council.
Sorry
we
just
ran
over
here.
E
I
was
at
the
March
1st
2023
meeting
of
the
city
council
council
member
Mather.
Who's
clearly
did
request
to
stop
form-based
code
Community
engagements
and
proceed
with
getting
some
examples
of
form-based
code,
so
community
members
would
have
something
tangible
to
digest
her
comments.
Begin
on
the
video
at
129.33
I
do
applaud
the
Commissioners
for
their
big
neck
at
PACE.
E
You
know
what
they're
trying
to
do
and
accomplish
and
move
forward
and
get
get
this
out
there,
because
I
asked
for
it,
like
probably
back
in
January,
to
get
some
examples.
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
see
it,
but
I
would
remind
them
that
I
think
it's
a
soft
deadline
and
would
encourage
a
community
to
continue
meaningful
discussion
in
the
process.
Thank
you.
A
F
I
Okay,
perfect
well,
hi
everyone,
I'm
Gwen,
Shaughnessy,
I'm,
a
senior
climate
adaptation,
specialist
I
work
with
Noah's
office
for
Coastal
management;
I'm,
sorry,
I
can't
be
there
in
person,
I'm
actually
located
up
in
Portland
Oregon,
and
so
it's
it's
a
pleasure
and
an
honor
to
to
be
here.
Virtually
with
you
all.
I
I
It's
quite
a
mouthful
and
a
contributing
author
to
the
2022
civilized
technical
report,
he's
based
on
the
East
Coast,
so
he's
unable
to
join.
Given
the
time
of
day,
but
hopefully
this
recording
is
the
next
best
thing
in
it-
he'll
cover
the
key
takeaways
from
the
technical
report
to
hopefully
kick
off
the
discussion
for
this
evening,
so
David.
Whenever
you're
ready,
you
can
go
ahead
and
queue
up.
The
video.
H
J
Y'all,
can
you
hear
me?
My
name
is
Kelsey
ducklow
and
I'm.
Our
Statewide
Coastal
resilience
coordinator
at
the
California
Coastal
commission
I've,
been
here
for
almost
10
years
now,
working
on
sea
level
rise,
including
on
our
sales,
Verizon
guidance
and,
more
recently
on
our
local
Coastal
program,
LCP
grants
program,
so
I've
been
able
to
work
on
some
of
the
work
that
Arcata
has
done
as
well
and
really
looking
forward
to
this
talk
thanks.
K
K
Yeah
I'll
start
over
Jeff
Anderson,
oh
I'm,
a
local
engineer,
principal
engineer
at
Northern,
hydrology
and
Engineering.
We
focus
a
lot
on
restoration
projects
and
hydrology
and
hydraulics
about
a
decade
ago.
I
kind
of
got
interested
in
sea
level
rise
and
aldera
and
I
it's
been
almost
10
years.
Now
did
the
first
vulnerability
work
in
the
bay.
So
thank
you
for
inviting
me
here
tonight.
L
Yeah,
my
name
is
Alderaan
Laird
I'm,
an
environmental
planner
and
I've,
been
working
on
humble
Bay,
for
Less
23
years
and
in
relationship
to
sea
level.
Rise,
I
really
got
started
with
that
developing
a
historical
Atlas
for
Humboldt
Bay
in
the
Eel
River
delta,
documenting
how
the
shoreline
has
evolved
over
the
last
150
years
and
then
in
2010.
H
M
M
The
federal
interagency
sea
level
rise
and
Coastal
flood
Hazard
scenario
and
tools,
task
force,
which
is
a
very
long
title
which
we
didn't
even
try
to
put
an
acronym
to,
and
it
is
the
contributed
agencies,
FEMA
USGS
Corps
of
Engineers
NASA,
this
time
and
NOAA
EPA
and
DOD
Department
of
Defense.
It
provides
the
most
up-to-date
sea
level
rise
projections
available,
it's
going
to
serve
as
key
input
into
the
fifth
National
Climate
assessment,
as
I
mentioned,
and
it
it's
going
to
hopefully
inform
sea
level
rise
adaptation
plans
at
all
scales.
M
The
ways
is
that
we've
seen
you
know
we're
going
to
see
in
the
next
30
Years
the
same
amount
of
sea
level,
we've
seen
over
the
past
100
years,
we're
seeing
a
definite
increase.
Obviously,
there's
going
to
be
higher
and
lower
rates
in
different
regions
for
various
regions.
We'll
talk
about
we're
going
to
see
more
extreme
Tides,
more
impacting
high.
Tides
are
going
to
start
to
impact
us
every
day,
almost
every
tide
eventually
and
we're
going
to
see
more
and
more
damaging
Storm
surges
and
a
profound
shift
in
coastal
flooding
over
the
next
30
Years.
M
There
is
more
certainty
in
the
next
30
Years
than
there
were
before.
We've
got
a
narrowing
of
the
scenarios
in
the
first
30
years
by
2050,
but
then
it
increases
after
that,
basically
because
of
the
High
dependency
on
on
what
happens
with
future
emissions,
and
we
also
talk
about
how
how
important
observations
are
water
level,
observations
and
satellite
altimetry
observations
and
how
that
will
help
us
with
future
projections.
M
We
see
level
rise.
Projections
incorporate
a
variety
of
processes.
As
I
mentioned,
we
have
future
emissions
involved,
ice
sheet,
loss,
ocean
warming,
ocean
circulation,
vertical
land
motion,
all
kinds
of
components
go
together
and
there's
two
really
two
types
of
uncertainty:
we
can
kind
of
break
it
down,
there's
process
uncertainty
which
is
sort
of
the
natural
processes
going
in
that's
the
things
like
the
vertical
land
motion,
and
you
know
the
the
current
and
that
kind
of
dynamic
and
then
there's
the
emissions
uncertainty.
M
M
Looking
at
different
temperature,
you
know
whether
we're
going
to
have
one
degree,
warming
1.5
to
2.5
in
the
future
and
then
develop
some
exchange
probabilities
based
on
that
on
how
those
projections
intersect.
Those
probabilities
and
the
scenarios
in
the
this
report
are
kind
of
a
subset
of
these
projections
that
represent
kind
of
the
range
of
plausible
Futures.
So
let's
compare
the
2017
report
and
this
was
from
nca4
to
the
new
ones.
It's
the
same
name
nomenclature,
but
in
this
case
the
extreme
scenario
in
a
2017
was
dropped.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
M
The
global
scenarios
for
around
2100
stay
the
same,
but
you,
the
timing,
has
changed
so
there's
a
little
bit
less
acceleration
until
after
2050
and
then
they
start
to
accelerate.
So
you
can
see
that
the
projections
are
a
little
bit,
so
the
scenarios
are
a
little
bit
lower
by
2050
than
before,
and
the
new
report
provides
a
little
greater
understanding
and
and
more
certainty
within
the
next
30
Years.
You
know
we
have
a
pretty
good
handle
on
things
with
observational
data.
This
is
the
data
right.
It
shows
us
historic
record.
M
We've
seen
this
much
change
there
had.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
curve
starting
to
happen.
Non-Linearity
non-stationarity,
and
that
continues
as
we
extrapolate
out
to
2050.
We're
within
you
know,
like
I,
said
probably
about
a
foot
globally
with
all
within
all
the
projections,
but
then,
as
you
go
out,
2100
they
fan
out
and
that's
due
again
to
the
mission,
uncertainty
and
the
low
confidence
processes,
such
as
how
fast
ice
sheets
are
going
to
melt.
So
how
would
you
use
these?
M
This
is
an
example
in
in
Portland,
Maine
and
kind
of
the
difference
between
the
two
and
how
what
the
implications
would
be
for
planning,
for
instance,
here
at
2050.
Let's,
you
know
commit
to
managing
at
least
a
1.5
feet,
because
that's
sort
of
the
higher
range
here,
but
just
in
case,
let's
prepare
up
to
maybe
three
same
thing
with
going
out
2100.
M
You
know,
let's
commit
somewhere
from
around
3.9
feet,
but
be
prepared
because
we
have
the
uncertainty
may
be
up
to
8.8,
just
to
make
sure
we're
capturing
that
range
and
and
potentially
between
the
2017
and
the
2022
report.
Even
though
the
extreme
scenario
has
been
removed,
basically,
basically
because
they
don't
think
we're
going
to
get
there
that
High
by
2100.
Eventually,
we
will
get
that
high
going
out,
20,
21.50
and
Beyond
mixed
news
for
local
planners.
The
we
have
a
better
handle
on
the
scenarios
until
2050..
It's
a
little
bit
more
certainty.
M
The
bad
news
is
sea
level
has
definitely
accelerated
over
the
past
few
decades.
That's
going
to
continue
to
happen.
We
may
have
a
little
bit
more
time
to
plan
for
the
highest
levels,
because
the
20,
the
the
extreme,
the
2.5
globally-
may
not
happen
but
sounds
like
it
won't
happen
until
after
2100,
but
we're
looking
at
least
two
feet
two
to
seven
feet,
but
2100,
and
this
increase
in
sea
level
is
basically
going
to
change
the
title,
flooding
regime
and
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
flooding.
So
we
can't
really
wait
anymore.
M
So,
looking
at
considering
risk
tolerance,
you
know
the
idea
here
is:
it
hasn't
changed
advising
folks
to
use
higher
scenarios
because
of
where
they
have,
where
their
risk,
averse
and
I
know
that
a
little
buying
higher
provides
Extra
Protection.
And
so
not
only
are
you
developing
to
handle
sea
level
rise,
but
it
will
help.
You
also
handle
storm
surge
and
precip.
J
Nothing
to
tee
up
I
can
start
talking
with
once
the
PowerPoint
is
up,
I
guess
as
you're
bringing
it
up
I'll
just
I'll.
Just
note
that
you
know
I
can
planning
on
giving
just
a
quick
overview
of
some
of
our
sea
level
rise
topics
and
then
again,
like
Gwen,
was
just
saying
getting
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
as
we
get
into
some
of
the
question
answer
period.
So
really
just
trying
to
provide
a
quick
foundation.
C
J
So
that
would
be
taking
into
consideration
all
these
kind
of
coastal
hazards
that
we've
already
been
dealing
with
flooding,
erosion
and
so
on,
but
now
also
considering
seal
will
rise
over
that
lifetime
as
well.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
the
next
policy
is
policy
30235,
which
allows
for
Shoreline
protection
in
certain
limited
circumstances.
These
this
can
include
Coastal
dependent
uses
for
public
beaches
or
for
existing,
which
the
coastal
commission
has
up
to
this
point
taken
to
the
pre-coastal
ACT
structures,
which
I
think
is
well.
We.
C
J
That,
if
there
are
questions
but
essentially
I,
want
to
point
out,
you
know
the
coastal
commission's
Approach
at
this
point
is
to
make
sure
that
development
can
be
cited,
so
it
can
be
safe
over
its
lifetime
without
having
to
require
any
sort
of
armoring
and
or
other
protective
strategies
in
the
future.
Next
slide.
J
All
of
those
kinds
of
resources
need
to
be
protected
under
the
coastal
act
and
just
as
silver
as
is
going
to
make
addressing
hazards
and
ensuring
development
can
be
safe,
all
more
challenging.
So
too,
will
the
protection
of
these
resources
be
more
challenging
with
sea
level
rise
and
in
part,
that's
because
there
are.
J
There
are
conflicts
between
the
uses
and
the
needs
of
these
different
resources,
and
so,
when
you're,
starting
to
think
about
adaptation
strategies,
different
adaptation
strategies
are
going
to
be
useful
for
different
kinds
of
resources
and
may
have
other
variable
impacts
on
other
kinds
of
resources.
So
that
is
kind
of
the
overarching
structure
of
how
we're
addressing
sea
level
rise.
These
making
sure
development
is
safe
and
making
sure
resources
are
protected
and
then
figuring
out
sort
of
the
right
balance
of
those
approaches
when
there
are
conflicts
in
between.
J
This
guidance
we
talk
about
it
as
sort
of
implementing
overarching
Statewide
guidance
which
comes
from
the
governor
comes
from
the
ocean
protection
council's
State
sea
level
rise
guidance
in
a
variety
of
other
kind
of
overarching
informational
resources
like
that,
and
then
provides
additional
specific
context
for
how
the
coastal
commission
approaches
things
so
really
providing
more
information
on
what
implementing
that
Statewide.
Overarching
guidance
looks
like
at
a
permit
level
or
an
LCP
level
or
other
types
of
coastal
commission
planning
processes.
J
So
we
really
talk
about
how
that
sort
of
implementing
the
Statewide
guidance,
including
things
like
using
best
available
science
and
taking
a
precautionary
approach,
prioritizing
natural
adaptation
options,
phased
adaptation
and
so
on.
One
of
the
key
things
out
of
that,
though,
is
that
use
of
best
available
science
I
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
J
So
in
2018
the
ocean
production
Council
came
out
with
their
updated
state
seal
for
eyes,
guidance
which,
at
that
time
included
a
newer
sea
level
rise
projections
and
that's
currently
reflected
in
our
civil
rights
guidance
from
the
coastal
commission.
As
you
just
heard,
Doug
and
Gwen
mentioned,
the
NOAA
report
has
is
providing
newer
science.
J
As
of
2022,
so
the
ocean
protection
council
is
currently
in
the
process
of
updating
that
Statewide
guidance
and
then,
and
we
are
working
with
them
on
that
process
and
then
we'll
likely
have
additional
guidance
in
the
future,
but
kind
of
putting
that
aside.
I
do
want
to
just
sort
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
projections
are
right
now
and
how
we've
been
approaching
those
projections.
J
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
those
three
kind
of
columns
that
you
saw
there
were
these
different
projection
scenarios,
a
low
risk
aversion
scenario,
medium
high
risk
aversion
scenario
and
extreme
risk
aversion
scenario,
and
these
include
recommendations.
These
are
recommended
for
use
in
different
contexts.
Essentially,
you
know
where
we're
more
concerned,
where
there's
a
higher
amount
of
risk,
more
likelihood
of
damage
or
impacts
to
the
environment
or
to
Public
Health.
That's
where
you
know
things
like
critical
infrastructure
highways,
wastewater
treatment,
plants
and
so
on.
J
J
That
is
for
kind
of
most
of
our
residential
commercial
structures
and
then
that
low
risk
version
scenario,
High
ability
to
adapt
low
risk
of
consequences
or
for
kind
of
incidental
development,
smaller
temporary
development,
those
kind
of
things,
and
so
the
point
I
just
want
to
you-
know
the
nomenclature
and
the
specific
amounts
of
sea
level
rise,
might
change
in
the
next
few
months
as
newer
guide
comes
out.
But
this
overall
approach
I
feel
like
I'm,
echoing
some
right
now,
I'm
watching.
N
J
Okay,
yeah
just
so
I
think
the
overall
approach
is
reflective
of
what
you
just
heard
from
our
friends
that
Noah
of
just
making
sure
we
understand
what
our
what
is
most
likely,
what
is
less
likely
but
would
have
higher
consequences,
and
you
know
those
different
scenarios
can
be
used
to
address
planning
and
design
as
well.
Next
slide.
J
I.
Think
key
in
that
discussion
is
understanding
that
there
is
this
difference
between
planning
and
designing
for
a
specific
amount
of
sea
level
rise.
So
even
if
we're
you
know,
we
want
to
see
what
is
the
worst
case
scenario
for
this
different
type
of
development.
What
could
happen,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
we
need
to
design
to
try
and
avoid
that
amount.
J
If
it's
easy
to
avoid
that
amount
great,
it's
always
going
to
be
better
and
safer
to
try
and
avoid
that
in
other
cases,
it's
not
possible
and
so
finding
that
right
design
amount
but
understanding
if
there's
going
to
need
to
be
different,
phased
approaches
or
adaptation
Pathways
to
make
up
that
kind
of
difference.
If
the
worst
case
scenarios
come
to
pass
is
really
important.
J
J
We've
been
excited
to
be
able
to
give
some
of
that
money
to
the
city
of
arcades
done
some
really
great
work
as
we'll
be
talking
about
here,
and
we
still
have
about
14
million
more
for
grants
to
continue
adaptation
planning
continue,
LCP
updates,
but
really
it's
been
really
important
for
us
to
help.
Local
governments
update
these
local
Coastal
programs,
which
many
are
out
of
date
and
therefore
are
not
able
to
address
these
kind
of
growing
concerns
that
see
overrides
as
much
as
they
should.
J
Just
this
final
slide
to
note,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
other
guidance
out
there,
a
lot
of
ongoing
work.
We
have
our
critical
infrastructure
guidance,
which
was
adopted
in
November
of
2021,
provides
some
more
focused
discussion
of
what
it
means
for
critical
infrastructure,
see
overrides
adaptation
planning
why
those
considerations
might
be
different
from
residential
structures
and
those
kinds
of
things.
J
We're
working
with
the
state
lands
commission
to
understand
public
trust
interests
and
how
that
will
change
with
sea
level
rise
to
make
sure
we
can
continue
to
provide
protection
of
those
public
trust
resources.
This
kind
of
you
see
that
Post
in
the
middle,
those
are
draft
guiding
principles
that
we
are
working
on
right
now,
which
will
be
coming
forward
to
the
Commission
in
May
and
then
on.
The
right.
I
know
it's
hard
to
see,
but
I
did
want
to
point
out.
J
K
All
right
so
I'm
going
to
kind
of
change
gears
a
little
bit
here
and
get
into
a
little
more
of
a
technical
presentation.
I'm
trying
to
make
this
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand.
Some
of
the
sea
level
rise
processes
that
and
how
they
occur
in
the
bay
because
it
does
affect,
and
it
will
affect
these
projections
or
the
scenarios
that
we
heard
about.
So,
let's
hope
that's
hopes
right.
K
K
K
It
just
accounts
for
the
change
in
volume
of
the
oceans
all
right,
so
our
kind
of
local
science
group
we've
been
using
a
long-term
Regional,
mean
sea
level
rise
rate
for
the
Pacific
Northwest
of
about
two
millimeters
per
year,
and
this
is
slightly
higher
than
the
global
immune
sea
level
rise
for
the
same
period,
which
is
about
1.7
millimeters
per
year,
and
what
I've
been
able?
What
I've
done
here
is
I've
taken
some
local
data
and
I've
combined
it
with
some
literature,
values
and
I've
kind
of
over
time
created
this
long
term.
K
K
What
I've
done
is
I've
taken
the
NOAA
sea
level
rise
scenarios
that
Doug
introduced
and
I've
removed
vertical
land,
their
estimate
of
vertical
land
motion
from
those
and
then
now
I've
attached.
Those
to
this
Regional
mean
sea
level
curve.
So
what
this
gives
us
is
a
is
kind
of
a
historical
curve
of
what
Regional
mean
sea
level
could
look
like
and
then
how
these
projections
that
their
scenarios
they
were
talking
about
is
attached
to
that.
K
Baby,
please,
okay,
so
well,
let's
talk
about
relative
sea
level
rise
and
I'm,
going
to
jump
around
here
a
little
bit,
but
relative
sea
level
rise
is
what
a
tide
gauge
measures.
Okay.
So
if
you
look
on
Noah's
website
and
you're,
looking
at
a
tide
gauge
record
like
this,
it's
measuring
relative
sea
level.
What
relative
sea
level
is
is
it's.
The
change
in
Regional
mean
sea
level
relative
to
the
land,
okay,
and
from
a
planning
and
engineering
and
design
perspective.
K
So
this
is
a
I
downloaded
this
yesterday.
This
is
the
regional
rate
from
Norse
bit
and
remember.
I
said
our
sorry,
a
relative
rate.
Remember
I,
said
our
regional
rate
is
about
two
millimeters
per
year
long
term.
So
what
this
is
telling
us
is,
the
relative
rate
is
much
higher
than
that
Regional
rate.
So
basically,
what
that's
telling
us
is
the
vertical
land
motion
below
nor
spit
below
the
tide.
Gauge
is
actually
going
down.
K
K
Okay,
all
right
next
slide,
please
all
right!
So
I
got
to
give
a
a
call
out.
There's
been
a
a
local
group
of
us,
mostly
geologists,
but
I've
been
lucky
enough
to
kind
of
work
with
them.
For
almost
10
years
now,
we've
been
looking
at
mostly
around
Humboldt
Bay,
how
land
level
changes
are
affecting
relative
sea
level
rise
and,
as
I
said,
this
work's
been
going
on
for
well
over
a
decade
and
in
January
thanks
to
Jay
Patton.
K
K
You
can
go
and
download
this
document,
but
what
what
we've
been
looking
at
is
how
relative
sea
level
rise
and
vertical
land
motion
change
in
Humboldt
Bay
all
right.
So
this
this
red
box
is
outlining
kind
of.
So
we
look
at
that,
but
it's
giving
us
a
relative
sea
level
rise
right
here
and
then
our
best
estimate
of
what
vertical
land
motion
is
to
there.
K
So
what
we
notice
right
away
is
starting
up
here
in
Trinidad
we
have
a
rate
of
right
around
three
three
millimeters
per
year:
relative
sea
level
rise
rate
and,
as
you
start
to
move
South
and
you
head
towards
hooked
and
slew
nor
spit
and
hooked
and
slew.
The
rate
goes
up
pretty
drastically
at
nor
spit.
It
gets
above
five
millimeters
per
year
and
at
hooked
and
slew
it's
already
above
six
millimeters
per
year,
and
these
differences
are
due
to
different
rates
of
vertical
land
motion
and
so
what
we're?
K
You
go
to
the
middle
of
the
Bay
North
spit
we're
over
five
millimeters
per
year,
vertical
amp
motion
at
about
three
and
then
obviously,
in
the
south
side
of
the
bay
we've
got
a
much
higher
rate
in
vertical
land
motion
of
about
you
know
over
four
and
a
half
millimeters
per
year.
So
what
we're
seeing
too
is
just
think
about.
K
K
So
what
does
that
mean
for
the
sea
level
rise
scenarios
and
I'll?
Try
to
make
I'll
I'll
do
my
best
to
explain
this.
So
the
the
black
line
here
at
the
bottom
and
I
know
this
is
harder
to
see.
That's
the
intermediate
sea
level
rise
scenario
scenario
from
NOAA
and
we're
starting
out
in
year
2000
and
by
adding
our
different
vertical
land
motion
rates
to
it.
We
can
make
this
sea
level
rise
scenario
kind
of
relative
to
different
locations
in
the
bay
right.
K
What's
going
on
with
that
intermediate
scenario
in
the
South
Bay
and
what
you
know,
it's
a
pretty
drastic
change
across
the
bay
and
so,
for
example,
if
we
were
planning
to
the
year
2100-
and
we
were
looking
at
this
intermediate
rate,
for
example,
if
you're
going
and
you're
looking
at
nor
spit,
you
would
be.
You
know,
we'd
be
looking
at
something
around
1.2
or
four
four
feet
of
sea
level
rise
by
2100,
but
around
the
north
part
of
the
bay
that
could
actually
be
almost
a
foot
lower
for
the
same
time
frame.
K
K
We
can
also
look
at
this
in
terms
of
how
vertical
land
motion
changes.
The
timing
of
sea
level
rise
all
right,
so
this
plot
down
here
is
just
kind
of
a
zoom
in
between
about
20
I,
don't
know
what
is
it
2030
to
2080,
and
this
is
just
an
example,
but
if
we,
let's
just
assume
once
again
this
intermediate
scenario-
and
we
were
looking
at-
we
just
wanted
to
plan
for
something
around
half
a
meter
or
sea
level
rise
or
about
a
foot
and
a
half
sea
level
rise.
K
What
we
see
is
that
we
would
hit
that
sea
level
rise
rate
in
about
2055
in
South
Bay
right.
We
would
hit
that
in
about
2061
at
North
spit,
and
we
would
get
to
that
same
relative
sea
level
rise
rate
about
2075
in
the
north
part
of
the
bay
okay.
So
almost
a
20-year
difference
for
the
same
water
level
just
across
the
bay
because
of
vertical
land
motion
next
slide.
Please
all
right!
You
want
to
keep
going
do
more.
K
K
Fema?
Did
this
in
their
last
flood,
updates
all
right
and
I'm?
What
I
want
to
say
right
now
unequivocally
is
that
humble
Bay
is
not
a
bathtub.
This
is
a
simulation
that
I
did
for
one
of
the
models.
I
have
working
of
the
bay
where
we
looked
at
kind
of
a
representation
of
a
hundred
year,
Coastal
flood,
and
these
are
kind
of
Maximum
water
levels.
K
Over
this,
this,
this
tidal
series
that
we
used
and
what
we're
showing
is
blue,
colors
kind
of
the
cool
colors
they
represent,
lower
water,
surface
elevations
and
the
warmer
colors
kind
of
Reds
and
orange
represent
higher
and
right
away.
You
can
actually
see
that
around
north
bid,
it
tends
to
be
cool,
so
it's
it's
lower
and,
as
you
start
creeping
up
your
way
towards
Arcata,
we
actually
see
that
sea
level
rise
elevations
for
the
same
event,
actually
get
quite
a
bit
higher
all
right,
and
this
is
for
a
tenure
event.
K
It's
just
the
colors
aren't
quite
as
dramatic
so
I
like
to
talk
about
this
one.
All
right
next
slide.
Please,
and
this
is
the
last
one.
So
what
does
that
mean
when
we're
planning
for
sea
level
rise
the
curve
the
curve
on
the
left
is
is
kind
of
a
ex
it's
flood
frequency
curve
on
the
on
the
y-axis
is
what
would
be
extreme
water
levels
and
on
the
x-axis
are
just
return
intervals.
So,
for
example,
this
is
a
hundred
year,
water
level
and
you
could
go
up
and
see
what
the
elevation
is.
K
The
red
curve
is
for
Norse
fit.
The
black
curve
is
for
the
Arcata
Wharf,
so
just
off
clock
Lake,
and
you
can
see
that
water.
You
know
extreme
water
levels
tend
to
be
quite
a
bit
higher
than
they
are
at
Norse
fit,
and
what
does
that
mean?
For
example,
if
we
were
going
to
be
planning
or
designing
something
in
Arcata,
so
let's
say
we're
using
the
FEMA
flood
maps.
Okay,
they
have
a
still
water
level
of
about
10
feet
for
a
hundred
year,
water
level
baywide.
K
What
we're
actually
doing,
because
of
this,
the
Dynamics
of
the
bay
you'd
actually
be
designing
something
that's
more
on
the
order
of
about
10
to
25
year,
flood
event,
all
right,
and
so
what
we
would
really
want
to
be
doing
if
we're
designing
for
a
hundred
year
event
is
to
design
for
something
like
10
point.
This
is
what
approximately
what
I
would
say.
K
That's
also
pretty
representative
of
what
an
average
king
tide
would
be.
You
know
in
Norse,
but
it's
about
nine
feet,
like
somebody
said,
but
up
here
in
Arcata,
it's
closer
to
9.4
feet,
but
the
important
thing
is
the
difference
between
a
king
tide
and
a
hundred
year.
Event
is
only
a
little
bit
greater
than
a
foot.
K
It's
1.3
feet,
so
it's
not
a
big
range
between
a
two-year
King
kind
of
average
king
tide
and
the
Hundred
Year
event,
and
so,
if
you're
off
by
half
a
foot
one
way
or
the
other,
it
can
actually
be
a
big.
You
can.
Actually,
you
know
create
a
it
can
actually
be
a
bit
problematic
actually-
and
so
this
is,
you
know,
to
kind
of
put
this.
K
In
summary,
even
for
planning
I
think
it's
important
that
we
consider
these
details
and
we
drill
down
into
this,
and
you
know,
I
talked
about
the
difference
between
the
vertical
and
motion
on
the
scenarios,
which
could
be
upwards
of
a
foot
or
more
difference.
You
know,
and
also
with
his
bathtub
versus
out
how
water
actually
moves
around
in
the
bay
up
to
what
you
know.
L
Yeah
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
start
off
and
to
highlight
that
David
had
Jeff
and
I
help
him
with
doing
sea
level,
rise,
vulnerability,
assessment,
work
in
2018
and
so
I
produced
this
report
in
2018..
It's
a
good
reference
document.
If
you
want
to
take
the
time
to
look
at
it
and
read
it
so,
I
would
recommend
that
I
know
that
David's
made
it
available
to
you
so
next
slide.
L
So
I
I'm,
going
to
take
a
little
different
approach
than
the
other
panelists
I.
Think
it's
important
for
you
to
understand
the
historical
context
of
what
makes
humble
Bay
unique
in
our
situation.
Unique.
This
is
a
a
map
overlaid
on
Google
Earth
and
it
shows
you
the
extent
of
the
salt
marsh
habitat
on
Humboldt
Bay,
as
it
was
in
1870..
So
essentially,
the
salt
marsh
was
about
40
percent
of
the
Bay's
footprint
in
1870,
and
you
go
to
the
next
slide
and
that's
the
footprint
of
today's
Bay
and
you
can
see
the
yellow
line.
L
L
Essentially,
the
bay
reclaims,
the
40
that
was
taken
away
from
it,
starting
back
in
1890.
those
salt
marsh
areas
that
were
around
the
bay.
Those
lands
are
mostly
now
pasture
and
much
of
them
are
behind
Earthen
dikes.
The
ground
surface
is
actually
lower
than
it
was
when
it
was
a
salt
marsh
before
100
years
ago,
and
so
if
the
water
over
tops
those
dikes
or
breaches
those
dikes,
those
areas
flood
again
so
with
just
three
feet
of
sea
level
rise.
L
We
see
the
bay
reclaim
its
historic
footprint
and
then
it
starts
to
encroach
on
new
lands
that
wasn't
part
of
the
bay.
Historically,
the
next
slide
something
that
happened.
That
was
you
know,
I
think.
A
a
good
thing
in
a
way
for
planning
is
that
we
had
an
extreme
water
event
on
New
Year's
2005..
We
had
the
highest
water
level
recorded
at
the
North
spit
tide,
Gage
and
the
governor
declared
a
state
of
disaster
on
Humboldt
Bay.
L
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
if
we
look
at
our
title,
datums
our
our
average
king
tide
and
our
our
average
maximum
monthly
tide
and
our
average
daily
high
tide,
if
we
want
to
use
that
as
a
baseline
that
extreme
event
that
ended
up
being
a
state
of
disaster,
then
with
one
foot
of
sea
level
rise,
our
average
king
tide
will
exceed
that
state
of
disaster.
Water
elevation
with
two
feet
of
sea
level
rise.
Our
monthly
high
tide
will
exceed
that
disaster.
Water
elevation
and
with
just
three
feet
of
sea
level
rise.
L
The
daily
high
tide
will
be
higher
than
what
was
declared
as
the
state
of
disaster.
Humble
Bay
and
I
think
what
this
highlights
is
that,
with
very
little
water
elevation
change,
a
lot
of
things
are
going
to
happen
on
Humboldt,
Bay
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
realize
that
we
need
to
load
our
response
up
front
and
not
be
looking
at
the
next
Century,
but
looking
over
the
period
of
time
that
we
could
experience
three
feet
next
slide
and
the
other
thing
that's
unique,
I
think
on
Humboldt
Bay
is
starting
in
the
1890s.
L
There
was
a
movement
to
dike
off
all
of
the
salt
marsh,
essentially
to
build
an
Earthen
berm
at
the
boundary
of
the
salt
marsh
in
the
mud
flat
with
the
floating
dredge
and
after
a
couple
of
winters
of
rain.
The
salt
was
washed
out
of
the
soil
and
all
of
a
sudden.
Now
you
had
flat
agricultural
land
with
no
Redwood
stumps,
and
so
there
was
about
ten
thousand
acres
of
agricultural
lands
that
were
created
rather
quickly.
L
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
where
the
Tidewater
would
be
the
very
next
day.
We're
not
talking
about
sea
level
rise,
we're
talking
about
a
historical
Legacy
that
began
in
the
1890s
by
diking
off
the
base.
Salt
marsh
those
lands
would
become
part
of
the
bay
if
it
wasn't
for
those
dike
structures.
So
if
the
dike
structures
are
compromised,
we
would
get
a
lot
of
flooding
instantly
with
that
next
slide
and
what
we
found
by
doing
creating
a
shoreline
profile.
L
Elevation
profile
of
the
diet
areas
is
that
a
lot
of
the
dikes
are
about
less
than
just
a
little
bit
less
than
10
feet
and
then
there's
quite
a
bit
of
miles
that
we're
11
feet.
And
what
we
saw
is
that
there's
a
Tipping
Point
or
an
over
talking
point
that
when
the
water
elevation
Rises
to
the
10
foot
Contour,
it
starts
over
topping
the
dikes
and
by
the
time
it
gets
to
11
feet.
L
And
so,
if
we
look
at
that,
Tipping
Point
between
10
and
11
foot
Contour
with
one
foot
of
sea
level
rise.
Our
King
tides
are
going
to
reach
that
Tipping
Point
with
two
feet
of
sea
level
rise.
The
monthly
High
Tides
cross
that
boundary
between
10
and
11
feet
and
with
three
feet
the
daily
High
Tides
would
cross
that,
and
so
that
diked
landscape
is
really
vulnerable
up
front
with
just
the
beginnings
of
sea
level.
Rise
that
we'll
see
next
slide
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
this.
L
The
the
state
has
issued
a
state
agency,
sea
level
rise
action
plan
for
California
and
they
recommended
that
the
state
agencies
look
at
three
and
a
half
feet
by
2050
in
their
planning
for
sea
level
rise
and
look
at
six
feet
per
2100
and
I
think
this
reinforces.
You
know
the
vulnerability
that
we
have
on
Humboldt
Bay,
with
just
three
feet
of
sea
level,
rise
by
2060.
next
slide,
and
so,
if
we
focus
in
on
on
city
of
Arcata,
the
area
in
gold
is
the
what
was
mapped
in
1870.
L
That's
all
the
salt
marsh
area,
so
those
lands
are
the
most
vulnerable
lands
on
Humboldt
Bay.
Now,
because
they're
behind
dikes
they're,
vulnerable
to
emerging
groundwater
and
they're
vulnerable
to
just
a
little
bit
of
sea
level
rise.
You
know
half
a
meter
one
and
a
half
feet
to
two
feet
and
we
overtop
the
existing
dikes
and
that's
the
area
that
would
be
flooded
in
Arcata
next
slide.
L
And
so,
if
we
look
at
a
half
a
meter
of
sea
level
rise,
you
can
see
most
of
that
former
salt
marsh
gets
reclaimed
with
just
half
a
meter
of
sea
level
rise.
If
we
jump
up
to
one
meter,
the
the
area,
that's
inundated
expands
a
little
bit,
but
not
greatly
above
what
we
get
with
just
half
a
meter.
There's
a
little
bit
of
encroachment
in
the
urban
area,
but
most
of
the
change
we're
going
to
see
is
right
up
front
with
you
know,
one
and
a
half
to
two
feet
of
sea
level
rise.
L
Most
of
the
former
salt
marsh
is
going
to
be
reclaimed
by
the
bay.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
what
did
we
locate
in
those
areas
on
that
former
salt
marsh?
We
put
critical
infrastructure,
we
have
municipal
water
lines,
we
have
Wastewater
sewer
lines.
We
have
natural
gas
lines,
electrical
transmission
towers
we
had
in
our
transportation
infrastructure.
We
have
Highway
101.
We
have
Highway
255,
we
have
local
streets
all
built
on
those
former
salt
marsh
areas.
All
of
that
infrastructure
is
at
risk.
L
If
the
bay,
it
compromises
the
present
day,
Shoreline
it
floods,
those
areas
next
one.
So
we
have
mapped
out
where
the
infrastructure
is,
and
you
can
see
the
former
tidelands
on
the
east
side
or
in
the
Bayside
area.
We
have
natural
gas
lines,
we
have
municipal
water
lines,
electrical
transmission
towers
and
then
around
the
South
G
Street.
We
have
some
other
infrastructure
areas.
One
thing
to
point
out
with
the
infrastructure
is
is
that
the
city
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
our
energy
infrastructure.
L
Pg
e
owns
that
and
so
in
same
way
with
our
transportation,
our
State
Transportation
infrastructure,
that's
calc,
trans,
that's
not
the
cities,
but
that
critical
infrastructure
was
located
in
really
vulnerable
areas.
Next
one-
and
this
is
the
transportation
the
upper
Corridor
Highway
101-
go
to
the
next
one,
please
in
the
former
tidelands
the
salt
marsh
areas.
Those
are
what
are
referred
to
as
public
trust
lands
and
the
when
the
coastal
Act
was
formed.
The
state
decided
that
public
trust
lands
would
be
retained
in
the
state's
jurisdiction
and
not
subject
to
the
local
Coastal
program.
L
All
the
area
that
you
see
in
the
cross
hatched
area,
all
the
former
salt
marsh.
All
of
that
is
subject
to
Coastal
commission
review
and
approval
for
any
projects
that
would
be
developed
and
just
outside
of
that
area.
There's
a
little
bit.
That's
in
the
city
of
Arcata,
under
its
jurisdiction.
Next
one
David,
and
so
we've
looked
at
half
a
meter
and
one
meter
and
we
saw
a
slow
expansion.
L
If
we
look
at
two
meters
which
could
occur
by
the
end
of
the
century,
we
start
to
see
a
little
expansion
into
the
urban
area
of
Arcata.
We
don't
see
a
huge
expansion
in
the
footprint
the
water
gets
deeper,
but
it's
not
really
migrating
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
but
when
we
look
at
three
meters,
which
is
the
projection
for
2120
all
of
a
sudden,
we
crossed
the
threshold
in
the
area.
L
We
need
to
focus
on
what
would
happen
up
front
with
one
tube
and
three
feet
of
sea
level
rise
and
then,
when
we
get
to
the
point
of
two
meters
going
on
to
three
meters,
that's
the
second
big
threshold
that
we
need
to
plan
for
and
again
next
one
and
people
have
asked
about
the
Gateway
plan,
so
using
Jeff's
inundation
maps
that
he
produced
from
this
hydrodynamic
model.
The
area
in
blue
is
could
be
inundated
by
one
meter.
L
The
area
in
red
would
could
be
inundated
with
two
meters
of
sea
level
rise
in
the
Gateway
plan.
Areas
is
not
really
directly
inundated
by
one
or
two
meters
of
sea
level
rise.
We
don't
have
a
model
that
shows
you
what
the
groundwater
is
doing
in
response
to
sea
level
rise,
at
least
not
yet
one's
coming
this
year.
Supposedly.
L
But
when
we
look
at
three
meters
of
sea
level
rise,
a
good
portion
of
the
Gateway
plant
area
would
be
subject
to
being
tidally
inundated
with
three
meters
of
sea
level
rise
and
I'd
like
to
focus
on
when
working
with
Jeff
starting.
You
know
10
15
years
ago.
That
was
really
beneficial
for
me,
because
he
did
all
the
engineering
and
I
just
asked.
The
simple
question
is:
what
areas
would
be
flooded
at
what
water
elevation,
and
so
he
modeled
and
mapped
all
of
that.
L
L
Assessments
are
really
an
inventory
document
of
what
is
located
in
the
areas
that
Jeff's
engineering
has
identified
would
be
underwater
at
different
water
levels
and
what
I've
not
gotten
involved
with,
is
trying
to
yeah
in
unravel,
or
you
know,
project
the
sea
level
rise
projections.
When
are
we
going
to
reach
one
meter,
it
could
be
20,
60
could
be
20
80
20
100,
but
what
we
do
know
is:
what's
at
risk
with
just
three
three
feet
of
sea
level,
rise
and
I.
L
H
H
We
do
have
the
next
section,
which
is
intended
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
a
panel
round
robin
to
address
the
questions
that
were
identified
in
the
head
of
the
meeting
and
so
I
think
we'll
we'll
run
through
those
I
had
eight
prepared
and
did
not
think
we
were
going
to
have
time
to
get
through.
All
eight
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
enough
time
to
fill
the
time
allotted
for
it.
H
So
for
the
first
question,
if
you
could
tell
us,
this
question
came
from
a
planning,
commissioner,
it
says
it
seems,
like
the
projections
for
sea
level
rise,
keep
getting
worse
and
new
projections,
land
Beyond
worst
case
for
previous
projections.
Given
this,
how
do
we
assess
the
various
projections?
How
far
into
the
future?
H
Are
the
projections
reasonably
accurate
and
has
maybe
a
tag
on
to
that,
because
I
saw
a
couple
of
different
projections
presented
tonight
if
you
can
kind
of
tease
apart
the
differences
in
particular
Jeff
and
and
Alderaan
between
sort
of
the
projections
that
you
showed
and
your
answers
that'd
be
great.
So
Gwen,
do
you
mind,
kicking
us
off.
I
I
The
projections
have
decreased
our
confidence
in
the
2050
numbers
and
projections
have
gotten
better,
and
you
can
see
that
if
you
were
to
compare
a
side-by-side
which
you
don't
have
but
the
the
spans.
So
if
you,
if
you
think
about
those
curves
that
everybody's
been
showing
and
as
time
goes
on,
they
fan
out
where
they
start
Fanning
out
is
further
into
the
future.
And
so,
if
we
think
about
2050,
it's
kind
of
collapsed
a
little.
I
J
Yeah
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
ways
to
take
this
answer.
One
of
the
first
things
I
want
to
say
is:
this
is
kind
of
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
have
tended
to
be.
You
know
take
this
precautionary
approach
in
considering
and
our
analyzes
those
higher
end,
and
sometimes
extreme
scenarios
is
to
directly
address
kind
of
that
issue.
J
We
don't
you
know
we
don't
want
to
be
under
counting
or
under
analyzing
the
amounts
of
sea
level
rise,
because
what
if
it
is
worse,
so
that's
that's
one
piece
of
it:
I
think
from
a
planning
kind
of
vulnerability
assessment
for
an
overall
area.
One
thing
that
we
have
been
recommending
is
analysis
of
multiple
amounts
of
sea
level
rise,
so
we're
kind
of
looking
at
these
different
ranges.
J
Best
case
scenario,
all
the
way
up
to
worst
case
scenario,
and
then
you
know
if
you've
analyzed
kind
of
a
one
foot,
three
foot,
five
foot
whatever
as
projections
change
that
maybe
just
changes
the
timeline
associated
with
when
we
might
see
those
amounts
of
sea
level
rise
or
if
some
of
those
higher
end
ones
even
come
to
pass.
So
you
know
that
kind
of
builds
and
that
sort
of
you
know
change
as
science
changes.
J
If
some
of
these
worst
case
scenarios
do
come
to
pass
or
these
higher
amounts
of
scenarios
at
the
commission
a
lot
of
times
that
takes
the
form
of
risk,
disclosures
Dean
restrictions,
those
kinds
of
things
that
would
require
removal
or
other
types
of
adaptation
strategies
in
the
future.
So
that's
kind
of
the
area
we
want
to
see.
Is
you
know
what
what
would
it
take
if
something
you
know
worse
were
to
come
to
pass
so
just
sort
of
starting
to
build
in
that
planning,
consideration
and
understanding?
K
I
think
Gwen
did
a
pretty
good
job
at
answering
this
question.
I
think
I'll
just
kind
of
mirror.
A
couple
of
things
she
said
is
that
we
have
a
lot
more
confidence
in
the
near
term.
2050
2060
of
what
these
projections
are
gonna
telling
us
as
you
go
into
the
future,
there's
just
the
uncertainties.
We
just
gave
a
lot
of
uncertainties.
We
don't
understand
the
processes,
we
don't
understand
what
might
drive.
H
Great
thanks,
maybe
we'll
start
with
you
later
on,
then
so
that
the
next
question
kicks
into
the
some
of
the
comments
that
were
differences
between
the
way
that
the
opcc
right
now
is
evaluating
and
the
the
coastal
commission
is
using
the
h
plus
scenario
and
then
what
the
no
report
has
now
come
out
and
recommended.
You
know:
dropping
the
extreme
risks,
aversion
scenario
for
planning
purposes,
and
so,
if
you
could
just
kick
yourself
and
tell
us,
you
know
your
thoughts
on
that
and
you
know
how
we
should
be
planning
for
that.
L
I
guess
my
thoughts
are
that
the
moderate
to
extreme
risk
aversion
projections
are
dire
enough.
That
I
don't
need
the
the
h
plus
plus,
you
know
to
be
motivated
to
do
plenty.
You
know,
I,
really
think
that
you
know
the
you
know
three
meters
10
feet
by
2120.
You
know
there's
a
lot
to
plan
for
there,
so
dropping
the
h,
plus
plus,
doesn't
really
it's
not
that
significant
to
me.
H
I
We've
mentioned
this
a
couple
of
times,
I
think
as
we
as
we
refine
our
understanding
of
processes
that
gets
reflected
in
the
scenarios
that
basically
are
represented
in
the
technical
report
and
I
think
that
the
big
difference
between
and
growth
opportunity
that
we
had
during
the
spans
the
five
year
spans
between
2017
and
2022
is
that
there
was
a
lot
of
research
being
done
specifically
around
Greenland
and
Antarctic
Ice
Sheets
and
the
Dynamics
there
and
trying
to
understand
the
processes
that
were
happening
there.
I
think
they're.
I
While
there
are
some
refinements
in
our
understanding
there
I
think
there's
still
scientific
discussion
and
investigation
underway
for
the
potential
for
this
rapid
ice
sheet
melt
or
collapse,
and
I
think
that
there's
just
not
consensus
right
now
on.
If
that
will
occur,
and
if
it
does
occur,
what
that
process
will
look
like
and
what
the
implications
for
that
process
are.
So
that
being
said,
I
think
taken
all
of
that
into
account
our
better
understanding
of
what
we're.
I
That
I
want
to
make
this
point
very
clear:
Silver
Eyes
doesn't
end
at
2100
and
it
will
continue
and
so
I
think
the
the
thing
to
to
take
away
from
this
is
that,
while
it's
not
recommended
for
planning
purposes
out
to
2100,
if
you
look
further
Beyond
2100,
we
will
eventually
get
to
those
levels
and
so
I
think
it
comes
back
to
you
know
the
question
of
what.
What
are
we
planning
for
what
time
Horizons?
Are
we
looking
at?
What
is
it
that
we're
making
decisions
about
and
have
that
informed,
quote?
E
I
J
That's
certainly
not
everything,
that's
not
every
single
house
or
residential
or
commercial
structure,
but
for
those
bigger
pieces
of
infrastructure.
You
know
we
we
do
know
some
of
those
are
going
to
be
around
Beyond
2100,
so
I
think
that's
the
piece
where
we
are
most
or
we'd
still
kind
of
want
to
understand
those
worst
case
scenarios
I,
don't
think
that's
all
together
too
too
different
from
how
we've
been
approaching
that
h,
plus
over
the
past
five
years,
certainly
there's
room
for
misunderstandings.
J
H
Okay,
great
thank
you
and
I,
do
want
to
try
and
get
us
back
on
track
for
the
timing.
I
want
to
respect
our
panelists
time
that
they've
committed
to
us
and
I
want
to
preserve
time
for
the
the
Commissioners
and
council
members
to
be
able
to
ask
their
questions
so
I'm
going
to
skip
down
and
actually
I
think
I'm
going
to
ask
sort
of
the
softball
question
to
transition
us
into
the
things
that
are
most
important
for
the
decision
makers
to
to
ask.
So
anything
is
still
a
fair
game.
H
That's
on
this
list
or
if
there's
something
else
that
is
of
interest
to
the
the
Commissioners
and
council
members.
That's
not
on
the
list.
Please
feel
free
to
ask
those
when
we
transition
but
I'm,
going
to
jump
to
question
number
seven,
which
is
of
the
various
scenarios,
which
is
the
most
appropriate
for
planning
purposes.
Please
let
us
know
why,
and
how
does
this
change
for
different
use
types,
residential,
commercial,
critical
infrastructure,
I
feel
like
you've
addressed
this
to
some
extent,
but
I'd
just
love
to
hear
responses
from
each
of
you
on
on
your
perspectives?
K
K
But
the
NOAA
document
I
think,
did
a
really
good
job
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
new
literature
out
there
that
we,
we
really
should
be
focusing
our
planning
efforts
on
what
we
kind
of
know
now,
which
is
much
shorter,
Horizons.
You
know
planning
kind
of
like
what
we
used
to
plan
to
for
the
next
20
30
40
years.
It's
2060,
2070.
K
K
I
think
picking
a
scenario
is
going
to
depend
on
what
you're
trying
to
do
the
assets.
What
are
some
of
the
questions
and
the
development?
You
know
obviously,
residential
and
Commercial
structures.
Today,
there's
vulnerabilities
or
structures
that
are
flooding
today.
Right
and
people
are
adapting
and
we're
going
to
adapt
into
the
future.
We
don't
have
a
choice
right
and
you
know
we're
trying
to
I've
talked
to
David
about
this,
but
we're
trying
to
plan
to
the
year
2100,
which
is
like
two
or
three
generations
away.
K
L
I
think
the
the
state's
guidance
you
know
from
last
year,
looking
at
a
meter
for
20,
50
and
looking
at
two
meters
for
2100,
is
a
good
beginning.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
local
examples,
there's
two
residential
developments
in
King
Salmon
that
wanted
to
build
brand
new
homes
in
the
coastal
commission
required
them
to
determine
what
was
the
extreme
water
elevation
100
years
out
and
whatever
that
elevation
was
I
think
was
18
to
19
feet.
L
I
I
think
I
might
take
a
little
different
perspective
and
and
share
that,
and
it
was
one
of
the
the
public
members
that
spoke
before
about
being
visionary,
I
didn't
catch
her
name
and
and
I
would
just
root
you
all
to
think
about
that
as
well.
Right
and
so
thinking
about
what
your
obviously
local
and
state
policies
and
requirements
are
is,
is
key,
but
also
thinking
about
your
community
priorities
and
your
values
and
what
it
is
that
you
want
to
be
as
a
community
and
have
that
influence.
I
If
for
lack
of
better
words
right?
So
if
we
change
scenarios
between
you
know
the
intermediate
and
intermediate
High,
what
what
else
is
impacted
and
what
does
that
mean
for
your
community
is?
Are
there
things
that,
like
yeah,
we
can
live
with
that
or
as
a
community?
Are
we
going
to
look
at
at
that
and
be
like?
No,
that's
that's
going
to
change
our
day-to-day
life
too
much.
It's
gonna,
you
know
change
our
access
to
things
that
we
value
Recreation
opportunities
being
able
to
get
to
work
whatever.
I
That
is,
for
your
community,
that
being
able
to
flush
the
toilet.
We're
talking
about
the
wastewater
treatment
plan
right
like
so
realistic
day-to-day
things
could
be
impacted
here,
and
so
you
know
it's
it's
an
interesting
planning
exercise
to
look
at.
You
know
if
I
map
out
and
try
to
understand
quote
about
what
gets
wet
under
one
scenario:
how
does
that
change
under
different
scenarios?
And
what
can
we
live
with?
What
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
tolerate
and
I
think
Kelsey
said
a
really
important
thing.
I
We
get
it
wrong
like
can
we
live
with
those
consequences
and
whether
that's
wrong
in
the
sense
that
we
planned
above
what
actually
happens
like?
Can
we
live
with
the
over
investment
or,
if
we
underplanned,
can
we
live
with
the
consequences
of
of
water?
Basically,
so
I
just
I
wanted
to
add
a
maybe
a
little
different
perspective
and
and
not
answer
the
question,
but
answer
the
question
because
I
I
can't
tell
you
the
scenario
or
the
number.
Unfortunately,
that's
a
that's,
a
very
local
decision
to
make.
J
My
guess
is
that
there's
still
going
to
be
this
kind
of
similar
framework
of
recommendations
that
kind
of
considers
different
risk
aversion
scenarios
for
different
types
of
development,
and
that
you
know
just
kind
of
retouching
on
that.
I
do
think
that
where
we
have
these
bigger
risks
associated
with
damage
or
under
considering
sea
level
rise,
those
are
where
we
want
to
be
the
most
precautionary
and
use
the
higher
amounts
of
sea
level
rise.
The
higher
Silver
Eyes
projections,
where
it
doesn't
matter
as
much
you
know
we
can
design
to
lower
I.
J
You
know
unfortunate,
as
that
may
be.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
great
about.
The
newer
report
is
the
increased
confidence
we
have
over
those
kind
of
smaller
or
nearer
term
silver
rise
amounts,
so
I
think
that
gives
us
kind
of
a
good
direction
to
go
with
kind
of
the
priorities
for
adaptation
for
what's
kind
of
out
there
right
now.
What
we
know
is
going
to
be
at
risk
in
the
next
20
30
years.
J
Those
are
good
priorities
for
adaptation
to
make
sure
we
can
really
address
those
vulnerabilities
and
to
the
point
that
adirond
made
earlier.
You
know
there
is
this
Tipping
Point
for
the
Arcata
and
Humboldt
Bay
area
around
that
one
meter
of
seal
of
our
eyes.
So
I
think
that
is
that's
a
really
important
number
to
have
a
better
sense
of
you
know
what
what
are
those
vulnerabilities
for
that
amount
of
sea
level
rise?
K
Can
I
add
something
to
them?
Oh
yeah
go
ahead.
Yeah
I
had
one
more
thought
here
with
this
and,
as
you
probably
heard
from
all
four
of
us,
it's
it's
really
hard
to
talk
about
picking
a
scenario
and
talking
about
risk,
something
that
we
don't
always
do,
and
it's
something
that
I
kind
of
want
to
throw
out
there
is
this
idea
of
bringing
a
little
more
design
and
Engineering
into
the
planning
process?
Okay,
so
think
about
you
know:
I
I,
remember
Dobby,
telling
me
one
time.
K
I
know
how
high
I
can
raise
the
berms
around
the
oxidation
ponds
without
impacting
either
capacity
without
having
to
add
material
to
either
the
bay
or
into
one
of
the
treatment
cells.
He
knew
how
high
he
could
go.
Okay,
and
with
that
information,
I
could
tell
you
a
lot
about
what
scenarios
are
going
to
do.
What
to
that
infrastructure.
Okay,
I
can
say
hey
with
a
meter
sea
level
rise.
This
is
what's
going
to
happen
and
I,
don't
I
think
we
could
do
the
same
thing.
K
When
we
talk
about
residential,
commercial
and
critical,
what
is
feasible,
I
mean
you
know.
Most
I
would
say
that
most
Engineers,
that
probably
work
in
public
works,
know
what's
kind
of
reasonably
feasible
in
an
area.
We
know
how
much
Bill
is
probably
okay
to
add
and
how
much
we
want
to
invest
in
building
up
roads.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
that's
been
the
city
of
arcata's
sort
of
underpinning
for
its
seal
of
rice
strategies
to
date
and
currently
trying
to
weave
in
a
little
bit
more
of
these
adaptation.
Pathways
that
that
you
know
people
are
talking
about
now,
love
to
turn
the
meeting
over
to
our
our
mayor
for
this
next
part
to
have
questions
of
the
Council
on
commission.
A
Okay,
I
was
going
to
check
in.
We
were
slated
to
have
a
quick
five-minute
break
if
folks
need
that
want
that
nope,
okay,
we're
ready
to
keep
going
then,
okay,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
both
Council
and
commission
to
ask
any
questions
or
anything
off
this
list
that
wasn't
covered
be
respectful.
One
another
give
everybody
the
time
to
talk
that
wants
to
talk
I'll,
do
the
the
teacher
thing
and
I
see
Scott
raising
his
hand.
So,
let's
get
going.
K
Okay,
so
for
the
modeling,
all
the
modeling
I've
done
I,
don't
consider
vertical
land
motion,
it's
just
too
complicated
and
we
don't
understand
it
other
than
these
few
spots
up
and
down
the
bay
and
we,
you
know
and
there's
there's
there's
uncertainty
in
those
vertical
and
motion
estimates.
It's
not
like.
We
know
that
was
exactly
so.
My
Approach
has
been
to
kind
of
hold
the
base
static
when
we
model
it
and
then
we
get
these
levels,
whether
we're
doing
sea
level,
sea
level
rise,
scenarios
or
extremes,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
as
I
showed.
K
P
So
I
guess
to
piggyback
on
Scott's
question
and
I
hear
what
you're
saying
about
the
vertical
land
motion,
but
I've
got
the
Jitters
because
of
all
this
moving
and
shaking.
We
just
had
another
small
earthquake
yesterday
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
how
much
does
seismic
activity
the
big
one
coming,
is
going
to
affect
the.
K
Now
we
need
one
of
the
geologists
from
that
the
list
I
talked
to
you.
I
I
will
be
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna
answer
this,
but
I'm
caveating
on
it
that
this
is
like
I'm
an
armed
chair,
geologist,
okay,
it's
like
I,
read
a
book
or
something
right,
but
the
my
understanding
is
that
the
vertical
land
motions
going
down.
So
when
the
big
one
happens,
it's
going
to
bounce
up,
okay,
just
like
Crescent
City,
is
going
up.
K
When
the
big
one
happens,
it's
going
to
go
down
and
they've
they've
documented
this
in
other
areas,
they've
looked
at
this
with
in
Alaska
they've
been
able
to
actually
see
a
historical
levels,
and
so
in
fact,
I
asked
Jay
Patton.
This
question
like
two
weeks
ago,
you
know:
are
we
going
to
when
the
big
one
happens?
Do
we
expect
the
ground
to
come
up
and
that's
sort
of
my
understanding
is:
that's
probably
might
be
what
happens
not
like
Japan,
where
they
actually
when
they
had
their
big
one,
they
actually
had
Coast
subsidence.
L
I
would
defer
to
Kelsey
in
a
moment,
but
I
can
just
relay
my
experience
of
working
on
restoration
projects
around
Humboldt
Bay
on
Dyke
lands,
and
we
have
not
been
able
to
raise
the
elevation
of
Dykes
because
of
generally
expands
the
footprint
of
the
dike,
which
is
a
fill
of
a
coastal
Wetland
and
that's
not
on
a
loud
thing
to
do,
and
our
marine,
an
unarmored
Dyke
is
something
again
you're
putting
in
imported
fill
in
a
coastal
Wetland,
and
that's
not
something.
We've
been
able
to
do
so.
J
Yeah
I
mean
without
getting
into
too
many
specifics,
because
everything
is
kind
of
context.
Specific
yeah
I
mean
continued
use
of
dikes
and
levees
or
armoring
of
those
levees
or
expanding
levees
is
generally
not
allowed
in
the
same
way
that,
like
I,
was
saying
kind
of
you
know.
Shoreline
protection
armoring
is
really
only
allowed
in
certain
contexts,
and
part
of
that
reason
is
just
kind
of
as
sea
levels
rise.
J
You
know,
you've
you've
changed
the
natural
Shoreline
from
something
that
could
have
migrated
Inland
and
resulted
in
continued
Wetland
Upland
habitat
to
something
that's
not
going
to
get
squeezed
and
drowned
out
so
that
those
are
some
of
the
impacts
we're
trying
to
address.
That
being
said,
obviously,
these
Dykes
and
levies
are
protecting
a
lot
of
infrastructure,
a
lot
of
pre-coastal
app
stuff.
A
lot
of
Public
Access
features
all
kinds
of
things,
so
you
know
I
think
we
are.
We
are
contemplating
how
to
move
forward
with
that.
J
The
county
is
contemplating
how
to
move
forward
with
that.
You
all
are
contemplating
how
to
move
forward
with
that.
I
do
think
that
you
know
like
I
was
kind
of
touching
on.
There
are
going
to
need
to
be
some
compromises
in
terms
of
what
are
the
different
resource
needs
that
we're
balancing
what
makes
sense.
J
How
can
we
try
and
find
an
appropriate
balance
between
maybe,
as
Alderaan
just
kind
of
said,
moving
some
dikes
mummies
Inland
are
changing
that
kind
of
existing
Shoreline,
but
where
are
we
going
to
need
to
continue
using
those
dikes
and
levies
or
potentially
building
them
up
or
potentially
other
kinds
of
adaptation
strategies
like
natural
or
sorry
living
shorelines,
those
kinds
of
things,
Eco
levies,
so
you
know
I,
think
it's
hard
to
say
again
kind
of
any
specific
area.
But
those
are
the
kind
of
policy
implications
that
we
are
all
grappling
with.
L
It
doesn't
do
anything
about
emerging
groundwater,
I
mean
we
could
spend
millions
of
dollars
on
rebuilding
dikes
as
high
as
you
want
to
build
them
and
as
sea
level
rise
goes
up,
it
pushes
groundwater
up
with
it
and
we
could
have
freshwater
wetlands
and
Open
Water
behind
the
dikes
and
the
dikes
haven't
breached,
and
so
whatever
you
have
behind
the
dike.
Probably
by
the
time
we
have
a
meter
of
sea
level
rise,
you'll
have
standing
water,
it
won't
be
agricultural
land.
F
Okay,
since
you
have
mentioned
emerging
groundwater
over
the
coming
year,
we're
going
to
be
asked
to
make
decisions
about
land
use
and
land
use
controls
for
areas
both
south
of
Samoa,
on
South,
G
and
H
Street,
and
immediately
north
of
Samoa
in
the
Gateway
area,
which
seems
to
be
sort
of
a
magical
barrier
at
the
moment.
Is
anyone
actually
doing
those
analyzes
of
emerging
groundwater
now
and
what
kinds
of
results
will
we
need
to
look
at
in
order
to
make
those
land
use
policy
decisions
within
the
next
year?
That
we're
being
asked
to
make.
K
Yeah
I'll
take
a
crack
at
this
one,
so
as
part
of
the
cosmos
pro
project
that
the
USGS
is
doing,
they
have,
they
do
have
kind
of
a
Statewide
groundwater
model
that
is
looking
at
how
groundwater
May,
how
groundwater's
increasing
with
sea
level
rise
kind
of
that
is
a
pretty
coarse
resolution
and
I,
don't
I
think
right.
Now
it's
a
good
starting
place
and
it
does
show
emergence
of
groundwater
over
time.
K
One
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
think
about
is
sea
level.
Groundwater,
as
it
approaches
the
coast
tends
to
track,
mean
sea
level,
okay
and
maybe
a
little
bit
higher.
If
you've
got
big
waves
like
it
might
start
to
track,
mean
high
water,
and
so
when
we're
remember,
when
we're
looking
at
a
lot
of
these
inundation
maps
that
we
were
looking
at,
that's
not
mean
sea
level.
Okay,
those
were
extreme
events,
those
were,
and
so
I
think
you
know
it's.
K
It's
I
think
we
could
probably
make
some
reasonable
assessments
just
understanding
the
ground
elevation
that
you're
interested
in
you
could
always
pop
a
well
in
and
see
what
the
ground
water
level
is
right,
then,
and
now,
and
then
it's
probably
pretty
well
going
to
be
correlated
the
sea
level
comes
up,
the
groundwater
is
going
to
come
up
and
if
we
can
find
the
funding,
I
know
quite
a
few
folks.
That
would
be
really
interested
locally
of
looking
at
a
much.
You
know
higher
resolution
groundwater
model
for
this
area.
L
Oh
go
ahead:
associated
with
usgs's
Cosmos
program
is
a
groundwater.
Modeling
research,
that's
being
done.
It's
called
The
Tale
of
Two
base
and
they
selected
Santa
Monica
Bay
to
develop
a
groundwater
model
and
I
was
able
to
get
them
to
select
Humboldt
Bay
as
the
other,
and
so
for
the
last
two
years,
they've
been
generating
a
groundwater
model
specific
to
Humboldt,
Bay
and
they're
honing
in
on
how
groundwater
might
respond
in,
say
the
king
salmon
Fields
Landing
here
and
then
how
would
it
respond
on
dike
former
tidelands
on
the
Wildlife
Refuge?
L
Last
year
we
held
two
workshops
where
they
presented
what
they
were
hoping
to
do,
and
the
latest
report
I
got
from
them
is
that
they're,
hoping
by
September
they
will
actually
release
their
groundwater.
Modeling
results
for
Humboldt,
Bay
and
so
I.
Don't
know
if
that
fits
in
your
time
frame.
I
hope
that
that
happens.
They
keep
running
into
delays,
but
somebody
is
modeling.
It.
H
Great,
thank
you
and
then,
as
a
follow-up
to
that,
you
know.
Are
there
strategies
to
manage
groundwater?
You
know
if
it
is
merging.
You
know
in
a
you
know,
an
AG
field.
You
know
that's
acceptable
level
of
risk,
but
if
it's
emerging
in
you
know
your,
you
know
your
streets
and
that's
not
acceptable
level
of
risk.
Are
there
ways
to
engineer
to
to
manage
groundwater.
K
You
can
raise
the
ground
don't
get
into
pumping.
You
know,
that's
that's!
The
immediate
response
is
to
just
pump
down
groundwater
and
and
I,
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
afford
that
there
might
be
some
drainage
improvements
that
can
be
done,
but
the
you
know,
as
you
get
into
low-lying
areas
the
it's
not
that
you
can't
get
things
to
drain,
it's
that
that
has
to
drain
to
the
Bay.
So
if
the
bay
is
coming
up
it
just
sort
of
start.
K
N
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
for
it.
Please
bear
with
me,
and
this
is
a
lot
of
information
from
some
very
learned
people
and
so
I
hope.
This
is
not
like
a
stupid
question,
I'm
still
kind
of
trying
to
absorb
all
of
this
I
guess
this
will
kind
of
along
the
thread
that
David
just
mentioned,
and
a
Common
Thread
that
I've
heard
everybody
talk
about
was
risk,
tolerance,
you
know
and
and
what
you
said
Jeff
about
you
know
we
don't
know
what
things
are
going
to
look
like
in
60
to
100
years.
N
K
K
N
K
True,
but
once
again
you
know
Engineers
I
mean
there's
geotechnical
Engineers
that
that
can
tend
to.
You
know
reasonably
come
up
with
a
solution
to
build
just
about
in
any
type
of
soil
condition.
Almost
I
mean
there's
some
that
you
know
we
should
we
shouldn't
and
we
don't,
but
yeah
I
think
that
there's
there's
there's
solutions
to
a
lot
of
innovative
ways
to
address
this.
Okay
and
that's
what
I
think
really
we
need
to
do
is
start
to
get
creative
and
how
we're
going
to
address
this,
because
it's
not
one
size
fits
all.
I
So
if
I
may
I
wanted
to
jump
in
sorry
Kelsey
if
you
wanted
to
go
first,
I
just
wanted
to
add
on
to
Jeff's
comment
and
say
you
know
as
you're,
going
down
this
path
of
thinking
about
how
to
live
with
water,
how
to
develop
differently,
how
to
build
differently.
Engineering
construction
I
just
want
to
emphasize
the
need
for
systems
level
thinking
and
not
thinking
about
necessarily
discrete
assets
or
discrete
pieces
of
infrastructure
and
looking
at
them
divorced
from
how
they
relate
to
the
the
broader
Community,
how
people
access
those
particular
things.
I
But
I
just
wanted
to
encourage
you
all
to
think
about
that
as
well,
instead
of
just
kind
of
this
discrete
asset
by
asset
approach,
which
I
think
can
sometimes
be
really
attractive
to
do
because
it's
easier
to
think
about
something
simply
and
how
communities
work
are
is
not
simple.
So
anyway,
Kelsey
I'll
defer
to
you
I
know
you
came
up
you
too
sorry.
J
That's
actually
almost
exactly
what
I
was
gonna
say.
You
know
we
can
Elevate
some
of
these
structures,
but
what
does
it
mean
if
your
house
is
safe,
but
your
roadway
or
even
your
kind
of
stormwater
system
is
not
and
is
completely
overwhelmed,
so
it
was
great
to
do
that.
I
will
also
just
add,
though
you
know,
as
as
we're
thinking
about
that
kind
of
system
approach,
also
considering
the
public
access
Recreation
natural
resources
pieces
as
well.
J
You
know
there
may
be
examples
of
areas
where
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
continue
development
and
those
areas
can
instead
then
be
used
as
flood
storage,
because
the
natural
habitat
has
been
restored
there
or
they
can
be
Public
Access
features
that
we
are
giving
up
elsewhere
to
protect.
You
know
development
in
some
some
cases
so
trying
to
think
about
that
balanced
approach.
J
You
know
what
is
the
vision
for
the
community
overall,
what
are
the
values
we
want
to
be
able
to
support
now
and
in
the
future,
and
then
also
just
recognizing
that
it's
not
going
to
be
a
one
and
done
kind
of
adaptation
approach
that
we're
gonna
have
to
be
changing
over
time.
To
make
sure
we
can
address
and
protect
those
different
values
over
time.
L
I
would
just
I
want
to
point
out
that
there's
a
lot
of
Arcata
that
is
not
in
a
vulnerable
area
for
inundation
for
sea
level
rise
for
the
next
Century.
You
know,
and
those
people
are
still
going
to
be
affected
by
sea
level,
rise,
they're
dependent
on
being
able
to
flush
the
toilets.
You
know
if
the
system
isn't
working,
even
though
they
don't
live
in
a
low-lying
area,
they're
going
to
be
affected
and
really
when
you
look
at
how
critical
all
the
different
assets
are
in
our
region.
L
Probably
one
of
the
most
critical
infrastructure
is
Highway
101,
you
know,
and
if
the
dikes
down
on
the
South
Bay
are
breached,
101
would
be
underwater
with
you
know
our
our
current
tide
elevations
and
we
all
use
101,
and
so
it's
not
in
the
city
of
Arcata.
Some
of
the
areas
that
are
most
vulnerable
to
sea
level
rise
aren't
in
Arcata
King
Salmon
is
probably
the
most
vulnerable
community
on
the
bay
you
know,
and
so
I
think
that
we
can't
just
look
at
the
areas
that
are
going
to
be
flooded
in.
Q
I
do
so
question
number
eight
talks
about
the
city's
current
adaptation
strategy,
and
so
I'd
love
feedback
on
that.
But
for
those
people
that
don't
have
the
questions
in
front
of
them,
I
feel
like
I
should
read
it
out
loud.
So
it's
a
long
one
bear
with
me.
So
the
city's
current
adaptation
strategy
considers
a
range
of
environmental,
fiscal
and
social
factors.
Retreat
will
be
provided
in
areas
that
have
low
risk.
Q
Lower
investment
assets
such
as
grazed
low-lying
lands
that
do
not
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
community
areas
such
as
South
G
Street,
which
has
significant
public
and
private
Investments,
a
concentration
of
lower
income
households,
High
rates
of
home
ownership,
dozens
of
businesses
and
high
value
Community
assets
such
as
the
marsh
Wildlife
Sanctuary,
will
be
prioritized
for
adaptation
designed
to
preserve
these
areas.
As
long
as
it
is
cost
feasible.
These
areas
would
receive
priority
for
living
shorelines,
new
levees
and
storm
Water
Management
Systems,
designed
to
buffer
tidal
flooding,
impacts,
so
thoughts
on
this
strategy.
J
I
can
take
a
start.
You
know,
I
think
this
is
certainly
something
we've
been
talking
about
with
you
all
our
District
staff
up
there
in
arcade
have
been
kind
of
talking
about
this
approach
as
well.
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
into
the
specifics
of
exactly
what
makes
sense
and
what
will
be
approvable
of
the
commission,
but
I
do
want
to
you
know:
I
think
this
is
this
does
fit
in
with
kind
of
the
approaches
I've
been
alluding
to
already
tonight.
J
Of
you
know
there
are
different
resource
conflicts
and
different
resource
needs,
and
we've,
you
know,
been
taking
a
little
bit
of
a
newer
approach
for
the
commission
I'm
trying
to
understand
you
know
how
can
we
strike
that
right
balance,
even
if
it's
maybe
not
how
we
would
have
done
it
in
the
past?
But
you
know
we.
We
have
to
have
clear
eyes
about
what
is
realistic
and
what
is
workable,
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
there
over
the
short
term,
medium
term
long
term?
J
So
you
know,
I
think
I,
think
that
you
know
that
whole
long
paragraph
does
speak
to
some
of
the
things
that
I
was
alluding.
To
of
you
know,
we
might
be
protecting
some
areas
in
ways
that,
by
the
letter
of
the
coastal
act,
aren't
necessarily
what
we
would
we
would
do,
but
are
balanced
out
by
you
know,
making
sure
we're
protecting
other
resources
else.
J
L
They
didn't
want
to
dominate
it,
but
I
can
I
guess.
From
my
perspective,
the
city
can't
do
this
alone.
The
city
can't
develop
a
strategy
to
respond
to
sea
level
rise
by
itself.
It
needs
to
partner
with
PG
E
I
mean
all
of
our
energy
infrastructure
is
outside
the
city's.
You
know
ability
to
change
needs
to
partner
with
Caltrans
we're
all
dependent
on
that
Highway
101
without
it,
and
when
you
look
at
the
amount
of
State
retained
jurisdictional
lands
on
Humboldt
Bay,
not
just
in
Arcata.
L
You
know
the
coastal
commission
has
to
partner
with
the
city.
You
know
to
do
this.
The
county
has
received
a
grant
from
the
coastal
commission
to
actually
start
developing
a
regional
sea
level
rise
adaptation
plan
for
Humboldt,
Bay
and
I
think
that
the
city
will
be
a
key
player
in
that
Regional
planning
effort.
You
know
and
I
think
that
maybe
combining
all
of
our
resources
on
Humboldt
Bay
that
come
up
with
a
strategy
that
is
baywide.
We
might
be
a
lot
more
effective
than
thinking
the
city
can
resolve
this
problem
by
itself.
K
I,
don't
know
that
much
about
the
city's
adaptation
strategy.
I
want
to
applaud
you
for
actually
having
one,
but
from
what
I
read
from
this
paragraph.
I
would
say
it
seems
like
a
reasonable
start,
I
mean
I'm.
You
know
hearing
what
Alderaan
says
there.
There
are
other
things
to
consider
here,
but
it
it
seems
like
focusing
on,
like
you
said,
the
South
G
Street
area,
because
of
existing
community
and
identifying
areas
where
you
could
have
Retreat
seems
to
make
sense
to
me.
I
And
I'll
just
I'll
round
things
out
and
Echo
I
think
what
other
panelists
have
said.
I
think
I
I
am
also
unfamiliar
with
the
plan
on
the
strategy,
but
it
it
appears
that
there
has
been
considerable
thought
that
went
into
it.
So
I'll
comment
on
that
and
applaud
you
on
that.
I
think
what
I'll
add
to
this
is
is
twofold.
I
I
This
is
a
very
right
moment
for
these
kinds
of
decisions.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
with
state
and
federal
funding.
I
won't
steal,
Kelsey's
Thunder,
but
you
know
thinking
about
the
resources
that
are
out
there
and
coming
out
out
there
for
planning
and
also
implementing
actions
and
and
I'm
talking
a
significant.
You
know:
potential
game-changing
amount
of
of
resources
and
so
just
being
on
the
lookout
for
those
kinds
of
of
opportunities
and
I.
I
Think
alderaan's
mention
of
this
Regional
strategy
and
Regional
plan
lends
itself
to
to
those
big
moments
and,
seeking
you
know,
funding,
especially
at
the
federal
level,
and
so
you
know
as
much
as
I'm
able
to
to
be
a
point
of
contact,
or
you
know
our
office
being
a
point
of
contact
for
those
Federal
opportunities.
I
just
wanted
to
to
mention
that,
because
I
do
think
it's
important.
It's
very
timely
right
now,
so.
P
K
K
L
I'm
not
an
engineer
so
I
will
not
get
involved
with
that,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I've
run
into
on
other
areas
of
the
bay
is
people
are
concerned
about
inflow
salt,
water
inflow
into
sewer
lines
and
that
salt
water
getting
to
the
treatment
plant
and
it
disrupts
you
know
the
the
process
of
the
decomposition
process,
and
so
it's
not
just
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
but
all
the
sewer
lines
that
feed
it.
They
need
to
be
protected
from
Salt,
Water
intrusion
and
I.
L
Don't
know
if
Arcada
has
lift
stations,
but
Eureka
has
a
number
of
sewer
lift
stations
that
are
in
vulnerable
locations.
You
know
that
would
be
flooded
during
Coastal
flood
Hazard
areas.
So
I
think
that
you
need
to
broaden
it
out
a
little
bit
and
certainly
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
but
also
all
the
transmission
lines
that
are
in
flood
Hazard
areas
that
feed
it
need
to
be
I,
don't
know
if
the
proper
term
is
hardened
but
to
prevent
salt
water
intrusion
into
the
lines
or
to
affect
lift
stations.
G
K
I'm
not
sure
if,
if
I
mean
in
terms
of
just
protection
with
the
levees
going
up,
I
think
there
is
some
some
stuff
there,
but
I
want
to
I
just
want
to
add
that
you
know
what
we
have
to
think
about
over
short
term
periods
with
the
treatment
plan.
Even
if
the
berms
come
up
is
wave
over
topping.
So
when
we
get
a
big
event
and
we
get
waves,
we
get
Splash
over
Okay
and
it
would
be.
K
It
would
be
a
really
fun
exercise
to
understand
how
high
you
guys
are
thinking
about
protection
and
then
what
that
could
look
like
in
time.
So
if,
if
we
get
some
sort
of
a
storm
event
where
we
have
waves
that
are
over
topping
and
putting
salt
water
and
it's
a
natural
base
system,
so
it's
going
to
be
able
to
take
some
salt
water.
It's
just
not
going
to
break
right
away
and
I.
Think
that's
part
of
the
equation.
I
mean
you
know,
I,
it's
a
great
optimization
problem.
Peter
right,
we
can
look
at.
R
The
tackle
the
whole
thing,
but
to
answer
Peter's
question
the
elevations
around
the
Levee
right
now
is
lowest.
Elevation
is
around
12
feet
and
then
more
90
of
the
levy
is
in
the
range
of
12.5
to
13
feet.
So
the
table
you
saw
earlier,
the
number
was
in
2050.
The
number
was
predicted
to
be
12
point
eight
on
your
table,
Yeah
approximately
so
yeah.
So
we
are
protecting.
The
current
Levy
elevation
is
protecting
our
Wastewater
Plant,
at
least
till
2050.
The
elevations.
C
S
P
P
It
says
the
the
state
agency
for
sea
level
rise
action
plan
for
California
issued
in
February
2022
indicates
that
the
coastal
jurisdictions
should
plan
for
3.5
feet
of
sea
level
rise
by
2050.,
and
then
you
know
it
goes
on
I'm,
not
even
thinking
about
2100
right
now,
I
just
wondering
you
know,
she'd
get
when
I
reached
this
a
little
or
spoke
of
it.
A
little
bit
earlier
about
seismic
activity
could
possibly
double
the
rate
of
that
sea
level
rise
and
so
I'm
wondering
does
that?
P
Conversely,
so
if
it's
doubling
we're
talking,
does
it
work
the
other
direction?
So
if
we
split
the
difference
between
today
and
2050,
which
is
27
years,
will
be
like
in
14
years,
we
could
possibly
have
3.5
feet
of
sea
level
rise
if
we
had
that
huge
seismic
activity
and
then
I
would
really
love
if
we
have
time
before,
we
close
thank
you
for
that
great
link
for
the
NOAA,
and
it
was
an
interactive.
K
T
A
K
S
Let's
have
a
question:
is
the
Consortium
of
Humboldt
geologists
working
on
you
know?
Looking
at
the
differences
between
you
know,
uplift
associated
with
the
cascading
seduction
Zone.
You
know
cascading
event
like
we're
discussing
here
versus
the
more
Regional
localized
faults.
For
instance,
you
know
King
Salmon
little
salmon
fault
north
of
here
the
Mad
River
fault
Zone,
and
you
know
the
McKinley
fall
field
fault.
S
You
know
where
in
which
up
north
Crescent
City
is
more
impacted
or
more
influenced
by
the
cascading
subduction
zone.
Are
we
starting
to
get
a
grasp
on
how
the
individual
faults,
particularly?
Let's
just
say
you
know
the
Mad
River
fault
system,
which
is
more
locally
affecting
us
here
in
Arcata,
and
how
that
may
reflect
on
Regional
means
sea
level
rise
here
specifically
here
in
Arcata.
S
T
Like
something
that
Laurie
dingler
would
be
able
to
answer,
because
you,
if
you
read
in
the
paper
she's,
probably
in
the
paper
every
week
talking
about
earthquakes,
so
someone
just
started
to
follow
her
and
read
it
on
a
regular
basis.
They
would
begin
to
get
an
understanding
of
what's
happening
and
and
she
figures,
if
we
have
a
large,
whatever
episode
whatever
you
want
to
call
it,
we
will
definitely
have
a
tsunami
in
our
area.
L
There's
a
lot
of
historical
evidence
up
and
down
the
Cascadia
Zone.
From
the
last
time
the
Cascadia
subduction
moved
the
whole
length.
Were
it
subsided
that
there
was
forests
that
ended
up
because
the
ground
dropped,
the
salt
water
came
in
the
trees,
died,
standing
up
and
all
up
and
down
the
coast.
Geologists
have
mapped
those
areas
and
we
have
actually
seen
on
a
field
trip
on
the
Eel
River
delta.
You
can
see
the
roots
of
some
of
the
submerged
trees
in
on
Mad,
River,
Slough
and
I.
L
J
I
guess
I'll
start
I.
Think
in
closing
you
know,
I
think
arcade
has
already
done
such
great
work
and
we've
been
happy
to
be
able
to
provide
some
of
the
funding
to
support
that,
and
so
it's
really
great
to
see
you
getting
out
ahead
and
proactively.
Thinking
about
these,
so
that's
kind
of
part,
A,
Part,
B,
I'll,
just
say
you
know
we
do
have
to
start
addressing
these
and
I
do
think
we
have
to
stop
thinking
about
the
coast
as
kind
of
a
stationary
area.
J
It's
going
to
be
dynamic,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
thinking
about
what
are
the
right
adaptation
strategies
to
use
over
time,
and
how
do
we
connect
that
all
to
kind
of
making
sure
we're
protecting
a
balance
of
all
these
different
resources
that
we
hold
dear
and
which,
of
course,
the
cool
stock
requires
us
to
protect
so
making
those
kind
of
things
fit
up
is
is
a
challenge
for
all
of
us,
but
you
know
we.
We
are
excited
to
keep
working
with
your
staff
on
all
this
great
work.
I
I
You
know
we're
happy
to
continue
these
conversations
and
supporting
this
work
in
any
way
that
seems
appropriate
and
that's
putting
our
heads
together
with
the
coastal
commission
with
Kelsey.
This
is
in
our
first
rodeo
with
with
her
as
well
and
so
yeah
just
as
much
as
we
can
continue
to
to
provide
products
and
services
and
support.
Please
let
us
know.
L
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
an
active
role
in
the
regional
sea
level
rise
adaptation,
planning,
project,
I.
Think
the
the
city
has
done
a
lot
already
and
you
could
be
a
really
valuable
participant
in
that
and
what
would
work
in
Arcata
will
work
for
the
rest
of
the
bay
or
what
would
work
in
King.
Salmon
may
very
well
work
in
Arcata
rather
than
divide.
L
You
know
that
planning
amongst
three
different
LCP
authorities
joining
your
forces
with
the
coastal
commission
and
coming
up
with
a
strategy
that
can
work
anywhere
on
the
bay
I
think
we
go
a
long
ways
to
securing
future
funding
to
be
able
to
do
projects
you
know
to
implement
and
I
guess.
Lastly,
the
areas
that
we
know
are
vulnerable
to
a
meter
of
sea
level
rise,
which
is
kind
of
what
we're
dealing
with
up
front.
We
should
we
need
to
protect.
L
You
know
what
people
have
in
those
areas
for
as
long
as
we
can,
but
we
really
need
to
avoid
putting
any
new
things
at
risk
in
those
areas,
as
we've
said
before,
sea
level
rise
is
not
going
to
stop
anytime
soon.
It's
going
to
keep
on
going
so
I
think
we
need
to
reduce
what's
at
risk
and
not
put
more
new
development
in
areas
that
are
vulnerable.
K
We
have
a
lot
of
Brain
Trust
locally.
We
have
for
a
long
time
and
we
can
add
value
to
these
large
Regional,
State
and
National
studies
that
that
come
out.
They
bring
a
lot
of
good
science
but
as
I
hope,
I
just
kind
of
skimmed
on
today
we
have
our
own
local
issues,
that
kind
of
add
or
detract
from
that
information,
so
I
think
I'll
just
end
it
all
right.
There.