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From YouTube: Here/now: Interview with Pat Creed Pt. 1
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This special segment of AVN's monthly magazine show, "Here/now", features Director of Arlington County Library Diane Kresh interviewing Pat Creed, co-author of the book: "Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11."
A
B
I'm
Diane
fresh
to
record
our
county
public
library,
I'm
joined
today
by
Patrick
Reed,
who
is
one
of
the
co-authors
of
a
very
important
book
on
the
Pentagon
during
911.
The
book
is
called
firefight
inside
the
battle
to
save
the
Pentagon
on
911.
Welcome
Patrick
we'd
like
to
talk
about
the
book
this
afternoon.
It's
an
extraordinary
book,
I
just
started
it
over
the
weekend.
That's
a
really
gripping
story.
How
did
you
start
to
do
the
research
and
we
actually
tell
the
story
that
you
and
Rick
noman
have
done
well.
C
I
am
the
resident
of
Arlington
when
I
was
younger.
I
grew
up
here
on
stage
with
high
school
and
had
read
a
lot
about
the
firefighters
in
New
York
I'm,
a
firefighter
back
in
the
Philadelphia
area
volunteer
and
driving
by
the
Pentagon
to
visit
my
parents
when
they
were
demolished
in
a
section
of
the
building.
This
was
probably
in
november
2001.
I
was
amazed
at
how
large
section
of
the
building
they
were
tearing
down
was
just
a
mint,
and
I
had
no
idea
the
fire
was
so
big.
C
I
started
to
go
around
and
visit
all
the
county.
Fire
houses
just
knock
on
the
doors
and
say:
does
anyone
here
at
the
Pentagon
a
911
and
started
hearing
more
and
more
stories
and
meeting
firefighters
who
were
old
friends
so
I
provides
for
now
working
with
the
department
and
if
the
story
was
amazing,
I
was
shocked
that
nobody
knew
what
had
happened
to
pentagon
was
nothing
written
on
it,
go
other
books
and
decided
that
I
really
needed
to
write.
Tell
the
story
now.
B
C
Important
is
to
know
that
arlington
county
as
a
whole
did
a
phenomenal
job
responding
to
this
emergency.
This
was
far
beyond
the
scope
of
anything
that
ever
happened
on
him
before
from
the
county
managers
and
the
support
services
of
police,
the
orrington
sheriff's,
the
the
jail,
even
an
electrician,
from
the
schools
they
all
work
together.
The
fire
department
was
the
tip
of
the
sphere.
C
They
were
actually
down
fighting
it,
but
they
could
not
have
done
it
alone
in
Ron,
Carlee
and
the
rest
of
the
orange
county
staff
did
just
amazing
job
I
wish
we
could
have
put
all
of
them
in
the
book
as
well,
but
we
took
the
focus
on
fire
department,
but
no
way
should
that
diminish
the
contributions
for
the
rest
of
County
and
the
way
they
all
responded
in
September
level.
Now.
B
When
we
were
talking
before
the
interview
you
described
Arlington-
and
you
said,
our
leasing
got
it
right-
the
smallest
municipality
in
the
United
States,
and
yet
it
dealt
with
a
disaster
where
no
emergency
personnel
were
lost.
Nothing
really
bad
happened.
They
handled
the
event
in
an
extraordinarily
quick
and
responsive.
An
efficient
time
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
I
wouldn't.
C
Say
nothing:
bad
happened.
Nothing
literally
tragic
happens
when
they
were
there.
It
was
still.
There
was
a
lot
of
it
was
a
chaotic
scene.
There's
you
ever
ask
a
firefighter
last
fire
you
when
she
was
it
well,
Ron
already
commented
it's
always
a
little
bit.
Chaotic
you're,
never
ready
the
call
comes
when
you
when
it's
when
it
happens.
You
won't
have
any
time
to
prepare
and
better
be
ready.
Women
buzzer
goes
off.
The
darlington
county
did
get
it
right.
The
head
prepared
chief
blogger,
who
was
chief
of
floor
chief
Schwartz.
C
Now
in
1995
it
was
the
sarin
gas
attack
in
Tokyo
Japan
and
by
a
doomsday
cult
chief
plugger
brought
in
all
his
chief
officers
from
the
fire
department
said.
If
this
happened
in
Arlington
today,
how
would
we
do
and
his
battalion
Chiefs
very
honestly
said
we
would
not
do
very
well
and
from
that
point
forward
they
said
disabled,
the
unknown
there's
so
many
important
places
in
arlington
be
of
the
metro,
haunted
cemetery,
the
pentagon,
all
the
government
buildings
in
Crystal
City,
there's
targets
galore.
If
there
was
to
be
a
terrorist
attack
and.
D
C
Started
to
plan
in
terms
of
generalities
and
relationship
building
and
working
with
other
departments
planning
for
coming
up
with
hazardous
retail
response
teams
for
such
a
small
Department,
relatively
speaking,
around
200
firefighters.
At
the
time
it
was
really
impressive
and
when
it
all
paid
off
on
the
day
when
the
unthinkable
happens,
the
Pentagon
gets
hit
by
gentlemen.
B
One
of
the
things
I
was
struck
by
in
the
book,
in
addition
to
the
personal
stories
that
the
fact
that
the
Pentagon
continued
to
try
to
function
even
on
911,
anyone
rumsfeld
himself
I
think
stayed
in
the
building
for
many
hours,
while
the
separate
command
was
being
set
up.
How
is
that
even
how
is
it
been
possible,
given.
C
That
the
nephews
belief
right
initially
secretary
Rumsfeld,
rushed
out
on
the
lawn
and
actually
helped
carry
some
of
the
victims
on
stretchers,
and
then
he
went
back
inside
to
his
office
and
command
center,
which
was
filling
up
with
smoke
even
on
the
other
side
of
the
building.
The
fire
was
truly
out
of
control
and
much
the
building
was
evacuated,
but
he
command
post
and
the
Pentagon
could
not
be
evacuated.
They
were
trying
to
set
up
alternate
locations.
C
At
the
same
time
we
talked
about
that
in
the
book,
but
until
they
were
there
and
up
and
functioning,
they
needed
to
keep
it
open.
The
Arlington
firefighters
provided
air
packs
for
the
firefighter
air
packs
to
people
in
some
of
the
command
locations
so
that
if
the
fire
got
close,
they
could
continue
to
do
their
jobs
until
they
could
be
rescued.
But
many
people
kind
of
God
just
flat-out,
refused
to
leave
it.
B
Was
also
a
sense
of
Pinkel
sort
of
abandoning
their
their
rank
for
the
day
and
they
were
all
equally
sort
of
equal
in
terms
of
battling
the
blaze
and
taking
care
of
the
wounded.
So
it
seems
like
it
was
a
the
camaraderie
and
esprit
de
corps
really
rose
to
the
surface
rather
than
people's
rank.
You
know:
generals
reporting,
two
captains
and
things
like
that
with
that,
some
of
the
things
that
were
discussed
when
you
did
the
oral
interviews
that
people
felt
like
they
were
really
pulling
together
for
a
common
cause.
Well,.
C
There
were,
there
were
many
people
who
pulled
together.
There
also
was
the
ability
of
people,
like
you
said,
to
an
example-
is
Chuck
kids,
captain
chunk
kids
with
Rowan
County,
Fire
Department
captain,
but
he's
one
of
the
more
experienced
firefighters
in
the
entire
department.
He
never
wanted
to
really
be
a
battalion
chief,
I
think
and
liked
what
he
was
doing
he's
a
fire
technician.
C
People
away
from
the
building
you
need
to
give
me
some
support
in
all
that
came
together,
there
were
some
people
who
some
other
departments
that
did
not
want
to
follow
the
command
team,
and
so
initially
there
were
some
because
there
was
some
controversy.
I
wish.
I
could
say
that
on
911
everyone
came
together
by
are
supposed
to
do,
but
just
like
life,
there
were
some
departments
that
actually
made
a
little
bit
heart
the
first
day
and
they
had
to
deal
with
that
and
she
Schwarzenegger
overcame
that
as
well.
Right.