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From YouTube: County Board Wrap-Up, September 2016
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ATV's monthly deep dive into the decisions reached by the Arlington County Board at this month's Board Meeting. This month, Board Chair Libby Garvey is joined by her colleague John Vihstadt to discuss affordable housing in Westover, planning decisions in Western Rosslyn (in particular, the temporary location for Fire 10), the new Ballston Quarter bridge replacement design, the awarding of new capital improvement contracts along the Lee Highway corridor, and potential guidance for short term rentals.
A
Hello
and
welcome
to
County
Board
wrap
up.
This
is
our
regular,
deep
dive
and
do
the
important
decisions
the
county
board
took
at
its
monthly
meeting.
I'm
your
host
kara
o'donnell
and
joining
us.
As
always.
Today
we
have
County
Board
Chair,
Libby
Garvey,
and
today
we
have
a
special
guest
county
board
member
John
vice
debt.
Thank
you
both
for
being
here
today,
pleasure.
A
B
C
Sure,
as
as
the
chair
indicated,
I
live
literally
two
to
three
blocks
away
from
the
northernmost
section
of
the
apartment
concentration
in
westover.
It's
it's
an
interesting
area
because
there
are
over
700
units
in
multiple
one-story,
brick
buildings
for
the
most
part,
there's
a
there's,
a
few
townhouse
looking
buildings
and
so
forth.
B
Very
lucky
that
Appa
was
really
able
to
buy.
They
went
in
and
bought
some
of
the
buildings
or
got
an
agreement
to
buy.
They
needed
some
support
for
us
and
they
are
going
to
then
make
them
committed,
committed,
affordable
units
and
one
of
the
things
about
these.
These
are
older
developments.
As
John
said,
it's
like
the
30s
and
40s.
B
You
know
brick
and
a
lot
of
green
area
around
and
they're
really
kind
of
treasured
kind
of
major
landmarks
for
the
community
and
I
think
everybody
loves
it,
whether
they
live
there
or
not,
and
it
really
it's
a
very
important
part
of
the
community
and
with
abba
making
this
purchase
that
somewhat,
with
our
help
they're
going
to
be
providing.
You
know
the
affordable
housing
protecting
it
and
it
also
kind
of
keeps
green
space.
It's
it's
sort
of
a
win-win
all
the
way
around.
I
think
and.
C
I
think
another
another
important
note
in
addition
to
the
fact
that
the
affordable
housing
is
already
there,
it
fits
in
with
the
scale
of
the
neighborhood
we're
not
adding
appreciable
density.
Here
many
of
these
units
are
just
one
bedroom
units,
so
we
do
have
crowded
schools
in
that
immediate
neighborhood,
but
there
will
not
be
a
big
influx
of
new
people
with
this
preservation
initiative.
So
Apple
were
we're
allocating
about
11
million
dollars
out
of
our
affordable
housing
investment
fund.
C
That
is
not
a
grant
that
money
will
be
paid
back
over
time
by
app'
as
a
result
of
the
financing
that
they're
also
securing
with
a
private
bank.
So
it's
not
just
public
money
going
in
its
its
its
private
money
as
well.
468
unit
62
units
have
already
been
destroyed,
so
this
will
preserve
68
units
and
there
may
be
the
prospect
of
being
able
to
do
a
little
more,
but
this
is
an
important
first
step
and.
B
A
C
Right
what
happened
is
we
have
a
process
through
our
historic
affairs
and
landmark
Review
Board
HAL
RB,
whereby
a
citizen,
whether
they
live
the
neighborhood
or
not,
can
file
a
petition
asking
for
historic
designation?
Now
that
historic
designation
comes
with
certain
requirements
and
strings,
the
petition
was
filed
for
a
historic
designation
in
the
entire
westover
neighborhood,
not
just
the
apartment
buildings,
but
the
westover
business
district
along
washington
boulevard
and
the
literally
hundreds
of
single-family
homes
in
westover.
Now,
naturally,
that's
set
off
some
alarm
bells.
C
So
there's
some
relationship
between
historic,
designation
and
affordable
housing,
but
but,
but
not
necessarily
and
I,
think
most
of
the
community
communities
focus
is
really
on
those
apartment
buildings
on
the
affordable,
housing,
much
less
so
the
business
district
in
the
single-family
homes,
I
guess
the
other
thing
I
would
I
would
point
out
is
when
we
have
taken
the
local,
historic
designation.
Previously
we
actually
have
over
30
local
historic
designation
districts
in
the
county.
They
tend
to
be
mostly
individual
sites,
like
churches,
cemeteries.
C
You
know
older
homes
and
we
have
given
great
way
to
the
perspectives
of
those
owners.
I
think
about
the
only
the
only
neighborhood
Libby
in
the
county
and
Cara
that
could
be
considered
even
somewhat
analogous
would
probably
be
maywood,
and
so
the
maywood
community
voted.
There
was
some
opposition,
but
the
board
did
designate
the
maywood
community
as
a
historic
district.
So
if
there,
if
it
may
would
homeowner
wants
to
put
a
new
roof
on
or
new
windows
or
somehow
architectural
échange
there
home,
they
have
to
go
before
the
h.
Al
RB
and.
B
C
B
Should
not
be
too
concerned
and
in
fact
it's
already
got
some
federal
designation
and
the
app
as
they
move
forward.
That's
going
to
be
some
of
their
tax
funding
is
going
to
depend
on
that.
So
I
think
it's
going
to
be
preserved.
Historically,
weather
will
do
more.
That
remains
to
be
seen,
but
it's
a
long
process
and
I
think
people
should
not
be
too
worried
at
this
and.
C
Again,
as
I
said,
you
know
we're
going
to
give
great
way
to
the
property
owners.
There's
this
community
meeting
on
November
30th
it's
going
to
take
a
while
and
by
the
way
folks
can
go
to
our
county
web
page
to
keep
up
with
the
goings-on.
Here
we
have
a
good
web
page,
that's
already
been
established.
If
you
just
go
to
ww
arlington
VA
us,
you
can
get
the
particulars.
A
A
B
Bit
about
fire
say
well
fire
station
10.
The
decision
was
made
some
time
ago
to
rebuild
it
and
keep
it
on
the
same
spot
course
and
for
temporary
and
we
had
it
worked
out
something
with
it
was
it's
a
very
complex
site
because
they're
penzance
own
some
of
the
land
schools
on
some
of
the
land
we
own
some
of
the
land,
and
it's
right.
You
know
kind
of
in
the
heart
of
the
courthouse
roslyn
area
and
we
realized.
If
we
could
work
together
the
three
different
owners.
B
We
could
have
a
much
better
project,
but
of
course
that
adds
complexity.
So,
at
first,
when
we
looked
at,
is
we
it's
fine
to
rebuild
a
fire
station?
But
when
you
rebuild
a
fire
station,
you
can't
do
without
a
fire
station.
It's
got.
You
have
to
keep
the
first
name,
so
either
you
build
it
somewhere
else
and
move
in
or
you
move
out,
rebuild
it
and
move
back,
and
in
this
case
originally
the
idea
was
the
fire
station
would
stay
there.
B
The
new
one
would
be
built
right
kind
of
around
it
and
there
would
be
a
move.
It
was
realized
it
really
for
sort
of
construction
reasons,
a
lot
of
financial
reasons.
It
probably
would
be
to
everyone's
benefit.
We
could
temporarily
move
the
fire
station
rebuild
it
and
then
they
will
move
back
in
in
Penzance
is
providing
that
that's
one
of
one
of
the
many
amenities
they're
providing
with
this
project.
B
B
They
didn't
want
to
wait
for
the
field
that
schools
undergoing
it's
going
to
be
just
a
major
construction
site
for
a
while
anyway,
but
it's
going
to
take
a
while
to
make
that
switch,
so
the
school
would
have
to
be
even
when
it
was
finished
without
a
field
for
short
for
about
a
year
and
a
half,
so
people
were
concerned,
can't
we
put
it
somewhere
else,
we
thought.
Well,
we
don't
think
so,
but
will
look
and
staff
really
did
look
very
hard
and
came
up
really
with
only
one
other
site
that
would
work.
B
They
were
asked
to
particularly
look
at
a
site
in
Rosslyn
and
called
the
holiday
in
sight,
but
that
really
just
was
not
gonna.
There
just
wasn't
enough
room
to
put
a
fire
station
there.
That
was
not
going
to
work.
The
only
possibility
really
was
this
roadside
green
park,
and
obviously
the
people
who
live
around
roadside
green
part
were
pretty
upset
about
the
idea
that
they
would
be
losing
their
park
and
I
think
the
major
issue,
one
of
it.
One
of
the
issues
for
the
county
board
on
this
decision
was
the
park.
B
Yes,
we
would
restore
it
afterwards
and
everybody's
got
to
put
up
with
a
little
bit
while
we're
by
undergoing
construction,
but
they
have
big
old
trees.
Trees,
don't
move
very
well,
so
it
would
be
very.
It
would
take
a
long
time
to
actually
restore
it
to
where
it
is
so
that
was
part
of
the
thinking.
I
think
that
went
into
it
and
I'll
invite
john
de
sort
of
to
you
know
talk
about
a
little
bit
from
his
viewpoint,
but
we
did
decide
to
go
back
to
what
the
staff
had
originally
recommend
recommended.
B
C
I
mean
it
was
a
great
challenges,
as
the
chair
indicated,
because
there
were
three
owners:
I
mean
penzance,
the
developer,
the
county
and
the
school
system,
all
own
different
chunks
of
land
on
that
West
Rosslyn
site,
but
I.
Think
a
big
thing
to
stress
is
that
the
county
board
and
really
our
staff,
the
manager's
office,
really
did
go
the
distance
in
in
looking
at
every
possible
potential
other
location
for
that
temporary
fire
station.
C
In
fact,
they
looked
literally
at
about
two
dozen
sites
and
we
had
on
our
website
a
grid
showing
the
various
metrics
that
we
need.
You
know
we
have
to
consider
response
time
for
that
fire
station.
We
have
to
consider
practical
things
like
traffic,
signaling,
topography,
utility,
easements
and
so
forth.
They
looked
at
public
sites,
they
looked
at
private
sites,
they
looked
at
repurposing
certain
parts
of
Rosslyn,
but
it
all
came
down
to
really
back
to
where
they
thought
was
going
to
be
best
in
the
first
place.
C
Well,
yeah,
just
let
me
just
also
interject
here
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
this
is
going
to
also
be
a
noose,
the
site
of
a
new
wilson
school.
The
HP
Woodlawn
program
is
moving
over
to
wilson,
so
the
school
board
and
the
superintendent
of
schools
feel
strongly
that
this
is
going
to
be
able
to
work.
Yeah.
C
And
deal
with
a
traffic
ingress
and
egress
the
safety
of
our
kids,
the
stratford
component
of
those
those
those
kids,
those
students
have
certain
needs,
and
the
superintendent
feels
strongly
that
we
can
make
things
work
the
school
board.
Frankly,
in
the
county
board,
you
know,
under
the
new
chair,
are
really
working
in
very
close
harmony,
harmony
with
each
other
and
we're
getting
a
lot.
Yes,.
A
A
A
Welcome
back
to
County
Board
wrap
up
our
monthly
chat
with
the
chair
and
sometimes
other
board
members
about
the
important
actions
the
board
takes
at
its
monthly
meetings
that
shape
our
community
and
affect
us
all.
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
ballston
quarter.
Now,
we've
talked
about
this
plenty
of
times
here
on
County
Board
wrap
up,
but
we
made
some
very
important
steps
forward
at
this
most
recent
meetings.
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
development
yeah
well,.
B
What
are
the
things?
The
things
we
started
out
like
that
sort
of
is
simple
to
sort
of
grasp
is
the
bridge.
Yes,
that
was
clearly
so
important
people
when
we
were
going
through
this
project
and
they
that
you
know
there's
money
in
there
to
do
a
bridge
we're
going
to
keep
the
bridge.
That
was
the
first
kind
of
major
decision
was
design
and
everybody
kind
of
looked
at
it
and
thought.
Oh
just
your
basic
design
doesn't
look
too
that's
not
kind
of
what
we
had
in
mind.
So
the
architects
got
together
with
the
community.
B
C
C
B
Right
so
we're
on
it
we're
on
a
roll
here
we're
on
to
the
third
iteration.
It
happens
when
you
hang
around
for
a
while.
Oh
this,
this
is
really
exciting
because
ballston
mall,
it
was
fine
when
it
started,
but
you
know
the
whole
model
economic
model
from
alls
just
isn't
working
very
well.
People
want
to
live
a
different
kind,
they're,
just
not
very
interested
in
going
to
the
old
classic
mall,
which
this
was
a
little
bit
more,
even
though
it
was
in
the
heart
of
ballston.
B
B
Much
more
exciting
experience,
and
that
bridge
was
part
of
that
and
we
had
to
vote
that
there
was
a
little
more
money
to
put
in,
but
it
was
really
more
it
just
the
things
that
we
vote
on
a
lot
that
aren't
really
very
interesting
in
a
way
our
easements,
so
that
the
two
pillars
where
they
have
to
put
down
to
hold
the
bridge
up.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
legally
those
pillars
can
be
there
right.
So
so.
A
B
C
Right
do
what
we
do
folks
need
to
keep
in
mind.
They
can
go
seamlessly
for
the
after.
The
new
construction
they'll
be
able
to
go
from
the
metro
station.
A
couple
blocks
away
in
into
the
newly
revitalize
mall,
and
you
know
when
we
talk
about
this.
Well,
isn't
this
just
another
mall
that
we're
you
know
kind
of
propping
up
with
public
funds,
but
this
is
really
a
signature
place,
making
an.
C
Economic
Development
Goal
here
we
really
think
that
this
is
going
to
to
rev
up
significantly
our
tax
revenue
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Actually,
projections-
and
you
know
you
can
talk
about
numbers
and
statistics
and
so
forth.
All
you
want,
but
we
feel
that
the
economic
modelling
that
the
county
is
done
reached
out
to
some
private
consultants
to
do
and
so
forth,
really
shows
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
net
gain
for
the
county,
we're
investing
about
50
million
in
public
funds.
C
But
it's
important
to
point
out
we're
not
just
giving
this
to
the
developer
to
Forest
City
this.
This
public
money
is
going
to
be
used
for
public
infrastructure,
streetscape
utilities.
Other
improvements
in
the
context
of
the
overall
mall
keep
in
mind
also
that
the
Cutler's
I
serene
is
going
to
be
staying
that
the
capitals
hockey
team
is
going
to
be
staying
there
an
office
building,
so
it
is
going
to
be
a
mixed-use
and
the
new.
The
new
retail
mix
in
this
mall
is
going
to
be
much
more
heavily
skewed
towards
towards
dining
and
entertainment.
Very.
A
A
C
We're
forming
the
CDA,
the
bonds
that
are
going
to
be
issued
in
conjunction
with
this
financing
are
not
going
to
count
against
our
debt
service.
Our
self-imposed
debt
service
limitation
of
ten
percent
we've
talked
to
the
rating
agencies.
The
rating
agencies
are
not
going
to
be
using
this
as
a
metric
and.
C
So
that's
a
yak
said
if
I
meant
finding
component
of
this
I
have
a
look
back
agreement.
So
if
the
project
is
ever
sold,
the
developer
decides
to
cash
in
we'll
get
a
part
of
that
gain.
If
it's
a
long-term
hold
for
them
will
also
have
the
opportunity
to
realize
back
some
of
our
public
investment,
and
we
have.
C
C
In
fairfax
also
has
a
much
higher
degree
of
public
financing
than
then
what
we're
doing
in
ballston.
So
we've
taken
a
page
from
mosaic,
but
we
think
that
we're
being
more
conservative
and
as
well
as
we've
looked
at
best
practices
in
other
areas
knock
on
wood.
This
will
fly,
but
we
think
it's
really
going
to
be
a
signature
development.
Yes,.
B
A
B
B
It
is
a
much
smaller
kind
of
project,
but
it's
going
to
make
it
a
lot
nicer
inside
make
it
actually
a
DA
compliant,
which
we've
been
needing
to
do
and
have
new
furniture,
Canada's
HVAC
system,
so
I
think
it
will
feel
like
you're
getting
actually
a
whole
lot
more
than
just
certify.
It
will
feel
like
a
new
center
for
and
really
not
all,
that
much,
which
I
think
will
be
a
great
a
great
addition
to
the
community
and
just
kind
of
help.
B
B
B
One
is
just
it's
more,
you
know
more
attractive
and
you
don't
have
as
much
problem
with
you
know:
trees
falling
on
them
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
there's
a
whole
future
planned
streetscape
for
lee
highway,
and
this
is
kind
of
one
of
the
first
steps
to
make
that
come,
bring
that
to
fruition
yeah.
So
it's
a
start
on
a
larger
on
a
larger
project,
and
that
also-
and
the
end,
you
know-
be
more
attractive
safer
for
pedestrians,
I
think
it'll
be
a
lot
big
improvement.
So.
A
A
B
Really,
oh
yeah
Eddie
very
strict,
a
mortgage.
No,
no!
But
the
idea
of
a
bed
and
breakfast
is
something
that's
familiar
to
people.
Now
we
have
this
sharing
economy,
so
we
know
with
uber
and
lyft.
People
are
sharing
cars
and
then
you've
got
that
you
know
Airbnb
and
some
craigslist
and
vacation
rentals.
All
sharing
you
know
private
homes
online
and
what
we
found
was
we
don't
have
because
it's
so
new,
we
don't
have
regular
zoning
regulations
to
handle
it.
We
have
people
coming
to
us
upset.
B
My
neighbor
has
got
people
coming
and
going
and
what
are
you
going
to
do
about
it
and
it's
hard?
What
are
we
going
to
do
about
it?
Because
it's
not?
We
don't
have
a
format
to
do
that
and
then
people
coming
to
us
and
saying
you
know,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
rent
out
my
room
from
time
to
time.
I'd
like
to
be
legal
I
want
to
do
this
the
right
way.
What
do
I
do?
I
travel,
yeah,
yeah
yeah.
B
What
how
do
I
do
this
and
we
don't
right
now
have
regulation
tell
them
how
to
do
it.
So
the
manager
made
a
report
that
he's
they're
going
to
come
back
at
our
October
meeting
and
have
a
we're
going
to
advertise
some
regulations
and
will
love
to
hear
from
people
what
they
they
think
if
they
think
it
will
work
for
them
and
kind
of
just
get
a
start
on
giving
some
structure
to
this
sort
of
brave
new
world.
We're
in
of
the
sharing
economy
and
I.
Think
this
will
be
very
helpful
for
people
and.
C
I
think
another
aspect
of
this
is
that
Arlington,
of
course,
wants
to
maintain
as
much
control
and
authority
over
these
types
of
things
as
possible.
The
legislature,
our
friends
down
in
Richmond,
are
also
looking
at
the
issue.
You
know
it
was
just
a
year
and
a
half
ago
when
there
was
kind
of
that
same
interplay,
state
government
and
local
government
with
respect
to
the
taxi
industry
and
an
uber.
C
And
so
with
the
sharing
economy.
Now
in
the
kind
of
in
the
in
the
residential
realm,
we're
going
to
be
working
attempting
to
work
at
least
very
closely
with
the
state
legislature
and
Richmond,
but
we're
really
interested
in
having
as
much
control
of
our
own
community,
our
own
zoning
laws
ourselves
and
try
and
bring
people
in
from
the
cold
to
legitimize
appropriate
rentals,
but
also
be
sensitive
to
the
integrity
of
our
single-family
homes
and
attended
nuisances.
That
can
come
with
this
type
of
thing.
Yeah.
B
I
was
talking
to
one
of
our
legislators
actually
just
this
morning
about
it
a
little
bit
and
say
it's
really:
it's
just
we're
26
square
miles
and
we're
a
tourist
ntage
donation
and
we
all
need
to
be
able
to
live
together,
and
so
you've
got
to
have
some
structure
in
some
regulation.
In
this
whole
new
world,
as
I
say,
the
sharing
economy
has.
B
Yeah
this
summer,
like
1600
yeah,
it
goes
up
and
down
so
what
you
know
we
want
it.
We
want
people
to
be
safe,
we
want
them
to
be
healthy.
We
want
them
to
not
be,
you
know
overwhelmed
by
noise,
but
we
also
want
to
give
people.
Flexibility
to
you
know,
make
use
of
their
homes
and
actually
make
it
feel
welcoming
for
people
that
might
want
to
come
here
and
have
a
place.
C
We
want
to
involve
our
various
commissions,
the
Housing
Commission,
the
aging
Commission,
the
community
as
a
whole,
we're
going
to
be
getting
something
up
on
our
county
website
soon,
so
that
people
can
interact
with
us
and
really
hear
what
folks
say,
because
there's
a
lot
of
variables
we're
going
to
have
to
be
looking
at
we're,
going
to
be
looking
at
the
Charlottesville,
ordinance
and
and
other
ordinances
around
the
state
and
and
see
what
might
be
most
appropriate
for
our
225,000
people.
Right.
A
B
A
broad
gamut,
well,
it
was
11.
Woman
came
to
us
because
she
is
that
our
fisher,
the
revenue
found
out
that
she
was
doing
this
since
she
needs
she
owed
money,
taxes,
say:
I,
didn't
know,
I'm
happy
to
pay
and
then
it
turns
out,
but
maybe
owes
three
years
back
and
she
I'm
happy
to
pit.
But
it's
so
much
money
and
I
didn't
know,
I
mean
that's
what
you
hear
a
lot.
I,
don't
know
said
my
neighborhood.
We
just
have
a
small
house.