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A
Energy
and
environment
commission
Welcome
to
our
February
meeting,
just
as
we
get
started,
is
I'll.
Let
you
know
that
we
are
recording
this
I
think
for
Commissioners.
We
can.
We
have
the
option
of
deciding
whether
we
want
to
actually
share
the
the
recording
or
not
on
YouTube
the
county
is
is
allowing
commissions
to
choose.
A
Yeah,
so
not
hearing
otherwise
I'm,
saying
I'm
going
to
say,
people
are
comfortable
with
sharing
this
on
YouTube,
so
we're
gonna
start
out
with
some
introductions
and
welcomes,
and
first
I
want
to
actually
acknowledge
that
we
have
several
Commissioners
who
will
be
going
off
the
commission
at
the
end
of
this
month,
starting
with
John
Bloom,
who
has
reached
his
term
limit.
A
Several
other
Commissioners
have
decided
to
not
to
not
re-up
after
their
terms
are
ending
and
Tim
feo
has
recently
resigned,
so
we'll
also
Sean
Norton
judge,
guzette
Gilbert
Campbell
will
be
leaving
us.
We
appreciate
all
the
service
that
they've
committed
to
being
on
the
commission
and
we
will
have
Doug
snowing
boss
and
Rob
Send
Dolly
were
just
appointed
to
be
Commissioners,
and
so
will
their
terms
will
start
at
the
first
of
of
next
month.
A
So
with
that
I
would
we'll
go
around
and
have
everybody
introduce
themselves
they'll
start
with
the
Commissioners
again
I'm
Joe
McIntyre,
chair
of
the
climate
change
energy
and
environment
commission
I'll,
just
kind
of
work
down
my
list
of
who's
here
see
Eric.
A
Yes,
Kevin
Vincent.
A
H
Sorry
Jonathan
morgenstein,
commissioner,
and
and
if
this
is
John
Bloom's
last
meeting,
it's
been
amazing
having
you
as
mentor
and
and
just
someone
to
have
on
this
and
the
energy
committee.
So.
A
A
Of
hard
to
do
on
a
virtual
I'll
just
go
down
the
list,
maybe
starting
with
Rebecca
and
then
I'll
kind
of
move
back
up
from
mine.
J
Hi
I'm
Stevie
d'alessio,
commissioner.
A
Okay
and
Robson
doli,
if
you
want
to
just
briefly
introduce
yourself,
look
forward
to
working
with
you,
you're
muted,.
K
Thank
you,
hi
everybody,
Rob
sandoli,
I,
think
I
met
some
of
you
with
the
last
meeting
when
I
sat
in
and
it's
I'm
really
excited
to
to
join.
This
group
I've
been
in
Arlington
since
the
mid
90s
and
I've
been
a
federal
employee,
working
the
clean
energy
space
for
20
plus
years,
and
so
really
excited
to
to
join
this.
This
Commission.
A
Oh
did
I
yeah,
okay,
all
right,
let's
I'll
just
kind
of
work,
my
list
and
if
you're
here
as
the
public
and
going
to
make
a
public
statement,
if
you
will,
let
me
know
I
know
we
have
several
that
are
planning
on
making
public
statements,
but
Terry.
L
Hello,
everyone
I'm
just
here
as
a
as
a
watcher
as
a
listener,.
A
Okay,
hello
welcome
Ryan,
Jones.
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Paul
munier
I'm,
the
senior
service
planner
for
the
art
system.
J
Yeah
good
evening,
everybody
first
time
listener
here:
okay,.
N
Q
Yeah
hi
I'm,
Fred
Phillips
I'm,
just
here
to
listen,
I'm,
actually,
potentially
interested
in
in
filling
a
vacancy
when
one
should
arise
or
if
one
has
already
Arisen
but
mostly
I'm,
just
interested
in
listening
in.
Thank
you.
A
Great
welcome
Doug
and
welcome
as
the
new
commissioner,
starting
next
month.
R
I
Hi,
that's
that's
me:
I'm
David,
Evans
I'm,
just
here
to
listen
tonight
and
I'm,
a
master
naturalist
and
so
very
interested
in
this.
This
commission's
work
great.
F
Hi
good
evening,
yes,
I'm
here
first
time
listener
and
also
potentially
interested
in
joining
the
commission
should
a
vacancy
occur.
B
My
name
is
lion
Park
tree
hugger.
A
All
right,
okay,
so
we'll
just
do
that
right
now,
we'll
turn
to
public
comment,
maybe
starting
with
Ann
and
I,
assume
it's
Ann
and
Mary
and
is
Terry
gonna
make
comments
as
well.
B
Okay
hi,
as
I
said,
my
name
is
Ann
Bodine
Arlington
Las
March
had
a
surplus
of
1600
housing
units
at
the
price
points
equal
to
what
Missy
middle
will
provide
and
a
deficit
for
9
000
for
those
earning
under
50,
very
median
income
even
before
apexes
came
off
the
table
with
Missy
middle
lowest.
Price
points
for
new
units
were
above
the
median
household
income
of
Arlington's,
blacks,
Hispanics
and
seniors.
B
I
strongly
disagree
with
those
saying,
Missy
middle
will
help
current
residents
of
color
and
I
asked
c2e2
to
support
a
reporting
requirement
for
the
board
to
track
the
ethnic
and
socioeconomic
diversity
of
eho
residents
over
five
and
ten
years.
If
it
adopts
new
zoning
I
ask
you
to
oppose
the
option
to
allow
eho
on
Lots
over
one
acre
by
special
exception.
These
could
become
Parks,
storm,
water
drains
or
truly
affordable
housing.
Ask
you
to
pose
the
bonus
lot.
Coverage
for
unbuilt
detached
garages
is
another
giveaway
to
developers
and
loss
for
our
Green
Space.
B
Ask
you
to
oppose
adus
for
for
for
ehl
is
this
will
further
reduce
tree
canopy
requirements?
I.
Ask
you
to
read
pages
43-52.
The
report
I
sent
from
arlingtonans
for
our
sustainable
future
that
report
notes
that
missing
middle
will,
complicate
or
put
Out
Of
Reach
key
County
goals.
Missing
middle
reduces
tree
canopy
to
only
10
percent
on
97
percent
of
land
being
rezoned
killing
our
goal
of
40
canopy.
It
adds
480
000
cubic
feet
per
year
of
runoff,
harming
goals
to
protect
watersheds
and
reduce
flood
threats.
You
maybe
saw
an
article
today.
B
The
county
is
going
to
start
buying
land
for
runoff
containment,
that's
an
alarm
Bell.
It
incentivizes,
inefficient
construction
that
adds
to
energy
construction,
complicating
the
effort
to
reach
carbon
neutrality.
It
adds
to
the
carbon
footprint
with
more
people,
and
it
is
less
energy
efficient
than
continuing
to
build
out
corridors
or
converting
older
vacant
commercial
or
hotel
space.
Finally,
I
ask
you
to
support
a
compromise
idea
of
duplexes
county-wide
that
I
set
maxing
out
with
three
plexes
near
Transit.
B
A
Maybe
put
something
in
the
chat:
yeah
Terry.
We
we'll
turn
to
her
and
we'll
try
to
get
back
to
Mary.
T
T
This
time,
I
think
we're
on
a
wrong
path
and
unfortunately,
because
you're,
one
of
my
favorite
commissions
we're
on
opposite
sides
here.
Nobody
at
this
point
can
literally
deny
that
putting
missing
housing
in
place
in
Arlington
County
is
a
death
sentence
for
our
trees
period.
There
is
no
recovering
from
that.
It
is
not
fair
to
ask
the
residents
here
that
live
in
Arlington
to
suffer
the
noise,
the
pollution,
the
loss
of
trees
and
the
loss
of
Wildlife
and
kids
get
sick
from
asthma.
T
T
H
I
was
wondering
if,
if
I
can
ask
a
question,
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
procedure,
I
I,
I,
I
I,
agree
with
a
lot
of
what's
been
said,
but
a
question
that
I
keep
having
is
my
understanding
is
that
under
the
missing
middle
plan
there
it
is.
H
There
is
no
change
to
the
footprints
of
what
is
permitted.
So
if
currently,
a
plot
is
permitted
to
have
I'm
just
throwing
out
there
a
number,
a
a
1000
square
foot
footprint
that
now
then
that
same
sized
thought
would
also
only
be
allowed
to
have
a
1
000
Square
footprint
for
whatever's
built
on.
A
T
Well,
Joe
say
this:
that
most
of
the
homes
that
are
built
are
not
built
out
to
the
maximum
square
footage,
and
that
includes
mcmansions
and
the
ones
in
my
neighborhood
there's
three
nearby.
A
Okay,
I
think
you've
had
enough
time
to
appreciate
that
yeah.
That's
enough
clarification!
Thank
you.
Okay,
says
next:
okay,
Mary
glasso.
We
got
her
back
now.
A
A
Okay,
all
right,
okay.
So
our
next
agenda
item
is
to
approve
our
minutes
from
January.
Everybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
those.
A
E
Scroll
down
to
the
summary
of
the
questions
on
the
the
electrification
plan,
let
me
see
look
at
pigment
glasses
off
here,
foreign.
E
The
the
question
the
it
says
here
that
the
Commissioners
requested
basic
route
block
analysis
about
the
two
to
one
bus
replacement.
We
also
expressed
somewhere
very
clearly
that
we
not
only
wanted
additional
analysis,
but
we
just
talked
to
the
one
in
placement
was
wrong
and
I
didn't
see
that
reflected
in
the
in
the
minutes,
so
I
think
it's
not
just
we
want
backup
for
it,
but
we
we
think
we
believe
it's
inaccurate.
F
E
Q
P
Mary
yeah
I'm
sorry
I'm,
just
trying
to
get
my
computer.
It
had
some
kind
of
problem.
I
had
to
reboot
I'm
just
trying
to
get
it
open.
Okay,.
P
B
All
right
three
minutes
will
begin
now.
P
There
we
go
okay,
thank
you!
I'm
Mary
glass
and
you
may
remember
at
your
December
meeting
that
I
spoke
about
a
new
tree
canopy
assessment
that
was
being
prepared
using
private
citizens.
Funding
I
can
go
to
the
second
slide.
This
research
has
been
completed
in
the
preliminary
overview.
Results
were
presented
in
a
public
webinar
February,
13th
I.
Think
study
was
conducted
by
the
nationally
recognized
green
infrastructure.
P
Center
I
think
you
just
accepted
standard
data
from
2021,
but
unlike
previous
studies,
it
was
augmented
with
lidar
remote
sensing,
which
further
distinguishes
the
vegetation
Heights
from
their
analysis.
Maps
were
created
to
show
our
current
Forest
assets
and
opportunities
to
expand
the
Public
Services.
They
provide.
Experts
emphasize
that
the
apps
are
critical
to
establishing
realistic
goals
in
a
forestry
plan
next
slide.
P
So
the
key
things
you
want
to
know
key
takeaways,
the
existing
tree,
Camp
canopy,
is
33
percent,
not
the
41
percent
stated
in
the
2017
study
and,
unfortunately,
impervious
surfaces
are
40
so
much
more
than
the
tree
canopy,
but
there
is
also
low
vegetation,
five
percent
and
previous
surface
things
like
brass
22
percent,
and
we
all
know
that
the
amount
of
the
tree
canopy
really
impacts
how
much
heat,
energy,
air
quality
and
climate
change
issues
we
have
to
face.
P
So
preservation
is
urgent
and
the
existing
resource
is
so
much
smaller
than
recognized
that
we
really
need
to
go
back
and
rethink
the
new
forestry
natural
resources
plan.
So
it
reflects
the
realities
that
have
been
exposed
by
this
information.
P
Further,
the
county
should
redirect
the
150
000
that
they
have
planned
for
another
canopy
study
which
would
duplicate
this
and
instead
use
it
for
the
public
tree,
inventory,
maintenance,
planting
and
other
priorities
that
have
already
been
identified
by
the
fnrc.
P
Okay,
slides
four
slide:
four:
okay,
the
tree
canopy
data
is
also
valuable
for
identifying
cost-effective,
green
infrastructure
for
near-term
funding,
as
other
jurassicans
have
done.
This
is
one
example
streets
with
less
than
five
percent
shade
are
identified,
so
you
might
want
to
look
at
that
for
heat
island
next
slide.
Please.
P
We
also
have
information
on
surface
temperature
by
census.
Block
again
that
can
be
overlaid
with
others
see
that
GIS
data
that
we
have
next
slide.
P
Okay,
the
next
public
meeting
on
March
25th,
we'll
drill
deeper
into
these
findings.
The
Consultants
will
provide
recommendations
for
audience.
Discussion
then
break
and
go
into
breakout
groups,
and
participants
will
have
ample
time
to
ask
specific
questions
about
their
neighborhoods.
This
is
all
sponsored
by
the
Arlington
County
Civic
Federation
and
inspired
and
motivated
by
the
Arlington
tree
Action
Group.
So
we
hope
you'll
join
us
on
the
25th
and
I've,
given
Rebecca
these
slides
and
some
more
information,
so
that
you
can
follow
up
and
register
if
you'd
like
to
participate.
Thank.
A
M
M
I'm
gonna
try
to
go
through
this
fairly
quickly.
So
you
have
time
to
ask
questions
you
can
say
to
talk
about.
Some
of
our
service
highlights
currently
a
t
tsp
overview
on
how
it's
developed
talk
about
data,
public
engagement
results
and
some
of
the
next
steps
that
we
have.
M
Oh,
you
can
do
some
of
our
service
highlights.
We
have
we're
protecting
2.1
million
Riders
this
year
on
our
recovering
to
the
pre-pandemic
of
2.8
million
riders
in
2019..
We
have
seen
steady
growth
in
ridership
as
we
have.
The
pandemic
has
gone
on
and
we've
come
closer
to
moving
out
of
it.
M
M
Strategic
plans
10-year
roadmap
required
by
the
state,
essentially
what
it
does
is
it
outlines
how
we
have
planned
to
provide
service
over
the
next
10
years
and
gives
drpt
the
opportunity
to
adjust
their
budget
and
understand
what
kind
of
funding
support
that
we
require
from
the
state.
It's
also,
we
want
to
provide
an
equitable
best
bus
Network
and
remove
barriers
to
Transit
travel.
We
come
up
with
ways
to
track
our
progress
with
metrics
that
talk
about
operations
and
Service
delivery,
and
it's
designed
to
be
flexible.
M
So,
even
though
this
is
a
10-year
plan,
every
year
we
review
the
recommendations,
ensure
that
things
haven't
changed
and
determine
what
the
implementation
for
that
year
would
be
on
a
year
by
year
basis
with
the
TSB
being
the
Baseline
for
what
we
want
to
do
just
a
a
high
level
overview
of
how
the
tsp
development
Works
first,
you
start
a
very
high
level
framework
purpose,
Vision,
Mission,
Vision
goals,
consider
Equity
issues,
guidance
and
evaluation
of
the
existing
conditions,
planning
with
regional
coordination,
Arlington
a
very
important
Regional
area
for
Transit,
looking
at
performance
and
getting
the
desire,
understanding
the
desires
and
needs
of
the
community.
M
Once
you
have
determined
that
you
need
to
look
at
the
financial
commitment
required
operations,
infrastructure,
Fleet
facilities
and
then
the
results
are
a
service
that
meets
the
needs
of
the
residents,
the
service
standards
and
the
service
metrics.
That
you're
going
to
hold
yourself
up
to
to
determine
the
success
or
failure
of
your
proposed
Network.
M
This
is
just
a
graphic
view
of
annual
ridership.
You
could
see
in
2019
the
2.8
million
falling
to
under
1.5
in
2021,
and
you
see
recovery
through
2022.
We
are
seeing
this
recovery
continue
about
on
the
same
trajectory
moving
forward.
M
This
is
just
another
look
at
the
same
information
that
was
on
the
last
side.
Just
it
shows
the
roots.
The
large
blue
box
at
the
bottom
is
route
of
41.
It's
our
most
productive
and
highly
used
route,
and
you
can
see
that
it
has
it
well
declined.
It
has
been
still
the
bulk
of
our
service.
M
We're
working
on
an
a
study
to
talk
about
us,
evolving,
a
sustainable
Fleet.
Currently
we
are
as
100
CNG
Fleet.
We
work
in
converted
over
20
years
ago
from
diesel
to
CNG,
and
currently
there
are
two
future
Pilots
that
are
scheduled
for
the
fleet
pilot
by
four
electric
battery
electric
buses
and
a
pilot
to
buy
two
to
four
hydrogen
hydrogens
of.
N
L
M
M
For
the
study
we
gathered
information
from
the
public,
we
had
a
public
Outreach,
we
evaluated
the
current
conditions
and
then
we
began
an
analysis
of
all
the
data
that
we
had.
A
lot
of
the
analysis
was
done
with
bivariate
analysis
on
supply
and
demand
supply
of
vehicle
trips
and
demand,
depending
on
and
there's
a
very
several
variables
that
we
use
and
I'll
show
you
an
example
of
that
shortly.
M
We
also
looked
at
connections
from
the
neighborhoods
and
activity
centers
to
determine
where
the
the
strongest
connections
were,
where
people
wanted
to
travel
and
compared
that
to
connections
that
are
made
by
transit
and,
as
I
said,
you
know,
the
destinations,
Transit
centers
activity,
centers
schools
and
Parks.
M
We
bring
all
this
analysis
together,
essentially
overlays
of
several
layers
of
data
to
identify
areas
and
neighborhoods
that
may
be
undersupplied
and
identifying
destinations
that
do
have
good
connections,
and
that
gives
us
where
the
gaps
are
in
our
service
in
terms
of
areas
in
the
county
and
in
terms
of
connections
and
also
Equity,
is
a
big
part
of
this.
O
Paul,
if
I
could
just
just
add
here
that
Samia
bird
who's,
the
deputy
County
Manager
Chief
race
and
Equity
officer,
is
on
our
stakeholder
internal
stakeholder
group,
and
we
will
be
meeting
with
her
to
look
at
the
lens,
the
equity
lens,
that
the
county
uses
the
the
equity
tool
and
work
with
that
in
comparison
with
the
title.
M
This
is
an
example
of
one
of
the
layers
of
analysis.
We
did
essentially
in
areas
so,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
vehicle
trips
versus
popular
projected
population
growth.
We
used
job
growth,
existing
population,
we
use
equity
areas
to
determine,
but
this
is
just
one
example
of
it.
Essentially,
if
there
is
a
high
high
amount
of
population
growth
that
is
being
shown
and
there's
a
high
amount
of
transit
in
the
area,
you
would
see
this
dark
blue.
M
If
it's
a
high
amount
of
population
growth
projected
and
a
low
amount
of
transit
in
the
current
area,
then
you
would
see
this
a
red,
color
and
essentially
the
red
Pink,
and
this
violet
color
indicate
areas
where
there
could
be
opportunity
for
for
increasing
supply
of
Transit
and
improving
ridership.
M
One
thing
I
will
note
this
is
this
map
is
population
group
versus
just
art
trips,
while
it
is
pink
down
here,
there
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
population
growth,
but
there
is
a
lot
of
Metro
service
in
this
area.
Also,
as
I
said,
this
is
one
of
several.
M
The
layers
and
I
see
a
hand
up.
If,
yes,.
H
So
when
you
say
right
like
there,
areas
that
have
a
population
and
maybe
proportionate
service
by
art,
but
you
know
there
are
certain
areas
of
the
county.
Obviously
that
are
wealthier
and
therefore
are
less
dependent
and
they
they
they
tend
to
they're
less
dependent
on
public
transportation.
H
So
is
that
calculated
in
this
or
is
it
just
X
number
of
I?
Don't
know
stops
and
routes
per
thousand
people
is
it
is
it?
Is
it
based
not
just
on
population?
Is
it
also
based
on
like
rates
of
utilization.
M
Again,
this
is
just
one
of
many
layers
so
that
we've
used
job
growth.
We
used
Transit
propensity.
We
used
our
title
six
Equity
areas,
and
this
is
just
an
example
because
really
where
you
get
the
answer,
you
lay
it
over
the
top.
But
yes-
and
it
does
come
out
it
does.
M
M
We
met
people
where
they
were
on
the
street
using
Transit,
and
definitely
you
could
see
that
some
of
the
things
some
of
the
answers,
some
of
the
themes
in
the
pop-ups
were
a
little
different
than
what
we
got
from
online
and
taking
together
all
of
the
things
that
we
heard
and
industry
Trends.
M
Looking
at
our
companion,
other
agencies
being
agencies.
These
were
kind
of
the
important
things
that
came
out
on
a
high
level
that
are
kind
of
system-wide
themes
that
we
need
to
address
as
we
move
forward.
Frequency
of
service
is
always
not
to
be
unexpected
span
of
service
people
looking
for
more
service
in
midday's
evenings
reliability.
If
it
isn't
reliable
people
don't
want
to
ride
it,
root,
design
and
planning
just
talking
about.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
at
the
some
of
the
different
things.
M
We're
doing
areas
we're
covering
and
maybe
number
of
bus
stops
or
are
stops
that
we
don't
have
accuracy
of
real
time,
which
actually
was
a
little
bit
surprising
to
me.
But
that's
why
you
do
the
public
Outreach
is
to
learn
about
these
things
and
it's
something
that
very
concerned
about
and
I
absolutely
need.
The
so
either
needs
to
be
addressed.
M
Looking
for
better
passenger
boarding
and
waiting
experiences,
this
was
a
a
theme
that
went
through
the
the
infield
people,
the
people
we
submitted,
the
pop-ups
where
it
was
there
was
a
stronger
desire
for
that
than
on
the
online
concern
for
underserved
populations
setting
and
achieving
goals
and
objectives,
Fair,
affordability,
reduced
fares,
free
fares
and
a
bus
and
roadway
infrastructure
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
make
the
bus
perform
better,
such
as
dedicated
Lanes
or
Transit
signal
priority.
M
So
here's
the
timeline
we
started
in
spring
end
of
May
2022,
September
I.
No,
it
was
October
fall
of
2022.
We
had
our
first
Outreach
and
engagement.
I
just
talked
generally
I
asked
people
generally
about
how
they
use
the
bus
and
presented
the
goals
and
the
goals
and
mission
and
vision
for
the
Department.
We've
talked
to
the
transit
advisory
committee.
M
We
have
talked
to
the
transportation
committee
and
we
are
getting
ready
to
release
a
draft
of
our
service
recommendations
very
soon
which
will
be
coming
up
in
about
mid-march.
You
will
see
that
being
released,
then
we
will
have
a
second
round
of
Outreach
that
will
present
the
service
recommendations
to
the
public
to
get
the
response
to
see.
If
we
have
you
know,
looked
at
this
information
captured
the
public
comment
and
are
providing
the
proper
network
Transit
Network
residents
in
Arlington
County.
M
M
M
And
the
next
steps
are
about
mid-march
a
little
earlier,
March
well,
Mata
will
be
coming
out
with
a
better
bus,
Network
they're
working
on
a
major
redesign
of
the
regional
Bus
Network.
M
This
is
important
for
us
because,
as
I
noted
earlier,
Arlington
is
an
important
Regional
location
where
we
have
a
lot
of
service
that
comes
to
and
passes
through,
Arlington
County.
With
with
our
recommendations,
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
are
leveraging
the
regional
Network
and
providing
services
that
fill
in
that
Regional
Network
connect
people
to
that
high-speed
Regional
Network
and
serve
as
much
of
the
county
as
possible.
M
M
This
says
July
but
I
think
we're
looking
for
a
little
later
in
the
year
than
July,
and
that
is
all
I
have.
So
if
there
are
any
questions.
M
I,
don't
have
them
in
this
presentation,
I
can
I
guess
this
was
a
little
higher
overview
than
I
thought.
I
can
pre
I
can
give
you
some
information.
I
can
send
along
to
the
committee,
with
the
goals
and
objectives
were
and
kind
of
the
response
that
we
got
from
the
community
on
those
goals
and
objectives.
A
That
would
be
useful,
don't
you
could
you
give
us
at
least
a
summary
or
something
or
maybe
we
can
just
jump
in
with
some
of
what
our
thoughts
are
with
what
the
goals
and
objectives
might
be.
A
I
mean,
from
our
perspective,
we're
looking
at
it.
Is
you
know?
What
are
your
goals
in
order
to
make
public
transportation
in
the
transit
system
so
attractive
that
it
actually
really
gets
people
out
of
their
cars
and
reduces
the
vehicle
miles?
Traveled
I
mean
given
the
huge
amount
of
greenhouse
gases
in
Arlington
that
come
from
transit
that
you
know,
good
public
transit
is,
is
going
to
have
to
be
a
key
area
of
Meeting
those
carbon
reduction
goals.
M
E
I'm
assuming
the
answer
but
I
guess
in
trying
to
gauge
user
experience
and
what
users
wanted
there
wasn't.
Any
questioning
of
whether
users
would
like
to
ride
on
a
clean
quiet,
bus
with
no
tailpipe
I,
know
Arlington's,
proud
of
and
he's
always
bragging
about
its
so-called
clean
buses.
But
was
there
any
sentiment
given
and
when
during
the
public
Outreach
to
it
would
be
even
better
to
ride
in
a
completely
clean
bus
with
making
no
noise
and
no
and
no
emissions.
M
The
discussion
on
buses
really
wasn't
talked
about
that
much
and
there
there
were
definitely
people
a
few
people
who
said
that
they
would
like
to
see
electric
buses.
There
were
other
people.
That
said
it's
more
important
to
make
sure
that
we
have
as
many
buses
as
possible.
So
this
is
focused
more
on
service
and
not
so
much
the
equipment
we
we're
focusing.
You
know
with
the
study.
It's
a
service
plan.
It's
not
while
we
report
on
the
capital
plan
that
is
being
determined
through
another
study.
E
H
I
just
may
be
mistaken,
but
I
I
vaguely
recall
that
County
Board
member
Libby
Garvey
when
she
went
to
Germany
a
couple
years
ago
on,
like
a
fact-finding
trip,
I
I,
don't
remember
if
it
was
exclusively
about
clean
energy
and
clean
Transportation,
but
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
it
that
that
she
she
looked
at
the
I
I
think
she
had
talked
about
a
concept
of
and
I've
seen
this
technology
being
piloted
in
some
parts
of
the
country
in
the
last
couple
years
about
very
localized,
either
automated
or
not
automated
I
guess
public
transit.
H
So
it's
not
right.
It's
not
art
because
it
doesn't
run
these
long
routes,
but
it's
but
it
it's
completely.
100
clean
and
energy
run
and
it's
it's
very
short
localized
within
Community
transportation,
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
she
has
spoken
with
you
about.
H
Well,
frankly,
I
don't
know:
I
I,
don't
know
if
you're
in
a
place
where
she
would
speak
with
you
or
if
she
would
would
instead
speak
with
the
county
manager.
Who
would
you
know,
speak
with
Craig
Emanuel
and
speak
with
you?
I
don't
know,
but
my
point
being.
That
is
this
something
one
that
you've
heard
of
through
through
the
through
the
chain
and
two.
H
M
I
am
not
familiar
with
that
discussion,
specifically
Lynn.
O
Okay,
thank
you.
So
there
are
two
two
different
things
that
I
think
you're
bringing
up
here
and
and
both
are
are
absolutely
things
that
are
happening
in
the
transit
industry.
O
One
is
autonomous
vehicles
and
the
second
one
is
what
we
call
microtransit,
where
you
have
vehicles
that
are
operating
in
a
particular
neighborhood
or
a
certain
part
of
the
the
the
service
area
and
those
and
it's
on
demand
and
those
vehicles
are
picking
people
up
and
taking
them
to
the
closest
main
line
for
Transit
and
and
typically
it
could
be
in
areas
where
either
rural
areas
or
areas
within
a
service
that
service
area
that
has
low
productivity
and
so
I
would
say
that
the
microtransit
is
something
that
we're
considering.
O
We
actually
had
that
included
in
our
TDP
a
number
of
years
ago,
hadn't
planned
on
starting
it
until
I
think
26
27
something
in
that
area.
But
that
definitely
is
on
the
table
to
look
at
that.
So,
yes,
okay,
we
have
talked
about
it.
Yeah.
H
A
Yeah
I
mean,
and
the
other
is
to
what
extent
that
you're
looking
at
at
the
route
is
the
information
you
look
at
ridership,
District
enough
that
it
can
get
a
good
sense
of
where
people
are
and
where
they're
going
and
enough
to
actually
start
thinking
about
how
you
would
plan
those
micro,
micro,
Mobility
components
as
well
as
other
aspects
of
of
you
know.
O
So
part,
so
part
of
the
study
that
we
did
is
is
just
looking
at
origin
and
destination
that
was,
and
there
we've
got
tons
of
maps
where
we
we
looked
at
that
kind
of
information.
So
all
of
that
is
included
as
we
look
at
how
art
will
look
in
the
future,
and
so
we
do
have
some
of
that
data.
It
may
not
be
as
intricate
as
we
need
it
to
be.
At
this
point,
we're
trying
to
look
at
overall.
O
O
You
all
have
heard
this-
that
the
true
Peak
service,
everybody
traveling
into
an
area
in
the
morning
and
out
in
the
air
in
the
evening
is,
has
totally
changed,
and
so
we've
got
the
peak
periods
that
are
longer
than
have
been
traditionally
and
services
that
when
people
for
frequency
people
want
to
travel
all
day
and
like
you're
saying
people
want
to
be
able
to
go
anytime,
they
are
are
ready
to
move
and
and
to
move
around
without
a
car.
So
we
have.
O
Right
now
we
have
what
are
called
activity
centers
Paul
mentioned
earlier,
and
so
we
do
know
where
they
are
at
this
point,
and
we
use
that
as
a
guide
to
determine
the
service
that
needs
to
to
be
out
there
to
to
move
people
to
those
particular
areas.
Yeah.
A
And,
and
are
you
setting
kind
of
any
of
these
overarching
goals
of
really
I
mean
I?
Think
the
one
statistic
I
hear:
that's
really
are
not
statistic
but
is,
is
you
know
having
a
transit
system
that
meets
90
of
the
needs
of
90
of
the
people?
90
of
the
time
is
you
know,
kind
of
that
real
high
level,
ambitious
goal.
O
It
it
it
we
yeah,
we
have
those
ambitious
goals
too.
We
have
those
ambitious
goals
too,
and-
and
so
we
like
to
say,
we
we
want
to
make
the
service
improvement
for
everyone
who
lives
working
plays
in
Arlington,
and
so,
as
you
can
imagine,
that's
a
tall
order,
but
but
we
have
to
start
somewhere
and
are
you.
A
Looking
at
the
schools,
especially
middle
school
and
high
school,
now
that
they're
moving
to
Art
buses
and
seeing
as
that
might
be
a
way
of
of
enhancing
the
art
bus
system,
because
you
have
kind
of
a
dedicated
customer
base
during
different
hours
of
the
day
and
and
they
have
very
specific
needs
as
to
where
they
need
to
go.
O
We
actually
have
most
of
our
service
that
travels
by
a
school
right
now,
and
so
what
we're
looking
at
is
maybe
to
line
up
the
times
of
the
service
a
little
bit
better
with
school
times,
but
because
we
are
a
public
transit
service,
we
have
to
incorporate
what
schools
are
doing
and,
as
you
said,
they're
they're
big
generators
for
for
usage,
but
we
have
to
include
schools
as
well,
so
there
may
be
some
areas
that
we
could
serve
better,
but
right
now
we
do
cover
most
of
the
schools.
M
And
I
don't
know
if
this
is
showing
on
the
screen,
but
here
is
the
the
with
the
the
the
goals
that
we've
provided
for
the
public
engagement
and
the
responses
that
we
got
from
them.
Yeah.
M
L
M
M
M
Yes,
Eric.
C
C
10-Year
plan,
so,
given
the
trajectory
that
you
that
you
showed
us
of
consultation
and
and
going
back
to
the
board,
and
then
this
will
be
finalized
and
and
launched
in
2024-
is
that
right.
C
So
2024
to
2030
when
it
will
be,
is
it
revised
every
six
years
or
does
it
carry
on
to
20
34.
M
C
Right
so,
with
a
with
a
10-year
strategic
plan,
beginning
in
2024,
going
up
to
2034.
I'm
just
curious
how
climate
change
mitigation
factors
into
this
strategic
plan.
Given
the
longevity
of
of
the
plan.
M
O
I
could
just
jump
in
real
quick.
So,
although
it's
a
10-year
Horizon,
we
go
back
it's
a
fluid
plan,
so
we
do
go
back
and
look
at
changes
or
what
what
changes
are
happening
either
within
the
service
area.
O
If
there's
new
developments,
if
there's
new,
if
there's
job
growths,
so
we're
constantly
going
back
and
looking
at
it,
we
primarily
put
the
the
plan
together
and
it's
a
state
required
plan
as
we
look
at
what
what
as
this
as
the
state
looks
at
how
much
funding
will
be
required
to
do
the
types
of
things
that
we
want.
So
it
is
something
that
we
go
back
and
we
revisit
over
the
course
of
the
the
10-year
Horizon.
S
Yeah
I
I
know
that
this
question
has
come
up
a
couple
of
times
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
transportation
is
working
with
the
office
of
sustainability
and
Environmental
Management
on
the
carbon
neutral,
Transportation
master
plan,
and
that
is
we're
around
Midway
through
I
did
I
was
out
of
town
last
week,
but
I
did
see
email
traffic
going
back
and
forth.
So
the
chairs
about
the
energy
committee
and
c2e2
will
shortly
be
receiving
an
invitation
to
either
represent
or
to
delegate
representation
in
a
working
panel
for
that
plan.
A
Well,
it's
actually
very
encouraging,
given
the
large
number
of
of
people
that
put
create
a
resilient
community
Through
environmental,
sustainable
Transportation,
as
is
really
a
top
priority,
so
I
think
that
certainly
certainly
should
support
you
know
a
fairly
ambitious
Transit
strategy
and
broader
Transportation
Planning
that
that
kind
of
meets
those
goals.
Yes,.
S
Because,
as
you
know
and
I
won't,
you
know
take
up
too
much
time.
I
know.
You've
got
a
tough
schedule
tonight,
but
you
know
Joan
that
will
cover
not
only
Transit,
but
it
will
cover
private
Vehicles
pass
through
traffic
because
collectively
that
accounts
for
close
to
40
percent
of
our
Greenhouse
guests
inventory.
If
I
recall,
yeah.
A
And
I
think
you
know
that
pass-through
is
kind
of
important
to
think
of
of
making
sure
we
have.
You
know
a
good,
strong
relationship
with
with
our
with
other
jurisdictions
in
wamada,
in
terms
of
coordinating
across
the
region,
because
people
just
don't
travel
within
Arlington.
So
you
know
kind
of
making
sure
that
we've
got
good
bus
systems,
bus
in
in
Metro
and
in
other
Transit
potential
to
kind
of
again
let
people
go
anywhere.
They
want
to
go
without
their
car
and
very
conveniently.
A
M
You
will
see
the
draft
of
the
service
service
recommendations,
probably
somewhere
in
mid-march,
is
when
they'll
be
made
public,
and
the
final
draft
of
the
of
the
entire
document
will
be
late
summer.
Early
fall.
M
And
and
as
I
said,
starting
in
late
March,
early
April
will
be
a
another
round
of
public
Outreach,
okay
and
we
can
provide
you
with
the
locations
we're
having
pop-ups
we'll
provide
you
with
the
links
to
the
online
survey
and
the
we
will
be
putting
out
a
virtual
public
meeting
to
kick
that
off.
Okay,
we'll
let
you
know
when
that
happens.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you,
okay
and
I
actually
would
be
very
useful
if
we
could
get.
Maybe
one
or
a
couple
of
Commissioners
who'd
want
to
kind
of
track
this
and
kind
of
think
about
what
our
kind
of
response
and
recommendations
would
be
is.
Is
they
come
forward
because
I
think
again,
you
know
and
and
I
think
they're
going
to
be
possibly
re-looking
at
the
whole
Master
Transportation
plan?
So
this
could
be
a
big
year
for
for
transportation,
and
given
that
it's
40
percent
of
our
carbon
emissions,
it's
something
that
I
think
we
can
pay.
A
Okay
and
continuing
on
that
theme,
we
will
look
at
the
letter
that,
on
the
the
EV
feasibility
study
and
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
John
for
introductions
and
we
can
walk
through
the
letter.
D
All
right,
hi,
everyone
and
Rebecca-
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
put
the
letter
up
on
screen
thanks
sure.
B
D
I
hope
everyone
has
had
a
chance
to
look
over
the
letter.
I
know.
We've
got
a
number
of
helpful
tweaks
and
and
comments
we
can
just
jump
into
it.
I'll
leave
one
opening
it
if,
if
someone
because
I
I
think
the
letter
itself
should
serve
as
an
overview
of
the
issue
so,
but
if
someone
would
like,
because
the
letters
in
commission
speak
and
if
someone
wants
kind
of
a
plain
language,
you
know
one
minute
overview,
I'd
be
happy
to
give
it.
But
you
know
otherwise.
D
I'd
say:
let's
jump
into
the
letter
run
through
it
and
take
questions
you
know,
as
as
they
come
I'm.
Q
D
Going
once
going
twice
and
then,
if
not
so,
questions
still
open
as
we
go
through
and
at
the
end
just
to
make
sure
we
get
this
right
and
I
think
key
issues
on
the
letter.
It
was
challenging.
I
I,
won't,
you
know,
make
any
any
I
I
struggled
with
it,
and
the
the
challenges
are
making
a
pretty
complex
issue
clear
to
the
board.
It's
got
to
be
kind
of
short
enough
for
for
policy
makers.
So
length
is,
is
an
issue.
D
This
is
long
for
us
and
does
it
accurately
capture
and
express
the
commission's
concerns.
A
H
A
H
A
H
In
that
case,
the
first
bullet
I
I
feel
like
misleading
kind
of
attributes,
a
a
malintent,
as
opposed
to
I
I'd,
say
in
an
accurate
or
incorrect
okay,
because
I
feel,
like
misleading,
almost
feels
like
someone's
trying
to
pull
the
wool
over
our
eyes
deliberately,
as
opposed
to
it's.
It's
just
not
correct.
P
D
E
The
only
and
let
me
just
do
a
counter
argument
on
that
then
Jonathan,
because
yeah
that
that's
a
very
fair
summary
of
these
bullets
and
I
I
think
we
want
to
make
a
point:
we're
not
trying
to
point
out
technical
mistakes,
but
that
the
overall
conclusions
that
come
from
this
report
are
so
fundamentally
flawed.
They're
going
to
lead,
they
are
going
to
mislead
the
County
Board
into
an
incorrect
decision.
So
I
think
misleading
is
much
better
than
inaccurate
and
would
stick
with
that
language.
We.
A
N
D
Long
as
we're
you
know
how
to
characterize
our
concerns
is
important
and
is
kind
of
an
issue
throughout
the
letter.
So
this
isn't
a
bad
place
to
have
that
discussion
and
I
think
Our
concern,
and
my
concern
is
that
it
was
it's
not
just
that
it's
a
little
bit
inaccurate,
but
that
the
the
overall
impression
of
this
PowerPoint
that
was
given
to
the
board
and
and
community
was
180
degrees.
H
A
D
A
H
H
A
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
good
with
that,
unless
others
or
I
think
the
original
was
false.
Accurate
yeah.
H
D
D
We
had
some
changes:
I'm,
okay
with
them
that
Jones
proposed
here
yeah
and
Stephen
helpful.
Thank
you.
D
Like
the
next,
the
next
significant
question
was
at
the
beginning
of
the
next
section,
which
provides
kind
of
it's
called
contextual
background,
but
it
really
goes
over
the
board
guidance
that
agreed
upon
timeline
the
the
decisions.
D
Des
has
said
have
to
be
taken
in
the
next
few
months
as
as
context
and
Joan
has
suggested,
maybe
dropping
that
which
would
save
us
a
whole
page.
It
would
really
bring
the
letter
back
and
you
know
into
a
normal
range
for
one
of
our
letters.
D
E
D
E
Thought
that
was
personally
I
thought
that
background
section
was
very,
very
useful
and
it
sets
up
sort
of
the
conclusions
at
the
end
in
a
way
that
I
don't
know
that
they
would
really
have
the
force
that
they
do.
Without
that
background,
so
I
mean
you
could
do
a
different
different
format,
but
you
know
we're
running
out
of
time
to
get
the
letter
out
and
I
think
we
would
lose
too
much
to
just
shorten
the
letter
by
getting
rid
of
some
of
this
background.
D
I
will
say:
I
think
that
part
of
the
problem
was
when
these
briefings
were
given
to
staff
I.
Don't
think
anyone
discussed
the
guidance
I,
don't
think
it
ever
came
up
board's
very
busy
and
and
certainly
the
commissions,
the
transportation
advisory
commission,
Transportation,
Commission
I.
Don't
think
I,
don't
think
the
people
being
briefed
knew
this
stuff.
D
H
I
I
think
I
I,
think
I
mean
someone
suggested
the
idea
of
putting
it
in
an
appendix
and
and
so
you
we
could
have
the
conclusions
further
up,
better
and
and
but
I
I
think
there
is
value
in
somehow,
including
it
because
then
assuming
we
assuming
one
of
us
does
or
many
of
us
or
any
of
us
go
to
a
meeting
where
these
issues
are
discussed,
we
can
call
attention
to
them
in
the
document.
We
we
can
say,
look
and
you
know
page
two.
H
A
A
All
right
so
I
guess
so:
okay,
we
want
to
quickly
run
through
each
paragraph.
If
people
quickly
read
it
and
have.
A
D
D
D
And
it's
also
an
area
of
You
Know
Rich
with
you
know,
does
this
accurately
capture?
Does
it
express
our
concerns
accurately.
D
Again
that
and
that
first
bullet
the
two
for
one,
the
two
for
one
bus
issue:
absolutely
Central
and
I.
I,
really
don't
think.
Most
viewers
understood
that
that
was
a
policy
Choice
imposed
by
by
staff
that
they
would
perf.
They
think
that
they
judge
that
we
would
have
a
better
outcome
by
buying
two
buses
for
every
CNG
bus
and
we
would
have
by
assigning
buses.
By
going
to
the
trouble
of
you
know
the
kind
of
Fleet
Management
aspect
of
assigning
buses
with
the
routes
that
they
can
successfully
run.
So
they
preferred
a
one.
A
D
If
you
have
one
very
long
route
block,
then
all
All
Buses,
all
all
yeah,
every
electric
bus
has
to
be
two
buses.
N
C
Yeah
so
the
first
section
on
contextual
background
I
said
that
I,
you
know,
I
I
think
it's
essential.
I
I
really
do
I
guess
the
question
for
the
the
commission
is
whether
to
lead
with
the
issues
around
process
and
compliance
specifically
with
the
guidance
or
this
section,
which
is
right
in
front
of
us,
which
is
about
the
content
and
the
assumptions
that
are
driving
the
recommendations.
I
think
that's
the
fundamental
question
I
believe
it's
all
really
valuable.
C
N
E
There
was
very
clear
guidance
from
the
County
Board
and
staff
did
not
follow
that
guard
guidance
should
very
much
be
the
initial
pitch
and
should
in
in.
We
ought
to
start
with
that,
because
I
do
think
that
will
get
the
county
board's
attention
and
I
do
think.
It
does
call
in
the
question
really
the
the
sum
of
the
whole
analysis,
because
that
fundamental
guidance
did
not
seem
to
inform
the
analysis
at
all.
D
I'll
just
respond,
I
think
I,
think
you're
both
raising
an
important
issue
and
that
the
the
letter
evolved
so
we're
in
until
it
didn't
have
that
substantial
lead-in
with
the
bullets
until
the
end
and
once
it
has
that
I
think
it's
possible
to
to
go
in
either
order
I
think
as
it
was
first
drafted,
you
had
to
have
the
background
in
order
to
have.
You
know,
understand
the
the
you
know
the
pager
so
that
we
have
on
the
substantive
concerns.
D
Would
that
address
your
concern
Joan
a
little
bit
so
that
if
we
leave
with
the
substantive
concern
issues
and
then
I'm
just
trying
to
look
and
see
if
if
it
creates
drafting
difficulties,
but
it
may
be
that
they
can
simply
be
flipped
yeah.
E
E
I
I
frankly
got
a
home
together,
just
fine
and
was
okay
with
not
trying
to
rework
it,
but
I
also
don't
have
any
problems
with
with
these
points.
Okay,.
C
Flipping
the
order,
if
I
heard
Kevin
correctly
and
I,
don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth
Kevin,
really
lead
with
compliance,
not
process.
Okay,
you
know
everyone
complains
about
processor
being
followed
or
not
followed,
so
lead
with
compliance
and
and
essentially
failure
to
comply
with
the
county
board's,
specific
guidance
and
then
move
into
the
substance.
Is
that
right,
Kevin.
E
Q
D
I
may
miss
the
last,
the
last
Point.
Are
we.
So
what
was?
What
was
the
last
thing?
You
said,
I'm,
sorry
Kevin.
What
you
left
in
place.
E
D
A
D
D
A
H
A
Yeah
again,
I.
C
D
No
we're
talking
about
the
taking
the
whole
section
on
contextual
background
and
flipping
it
with
the
section
on
our
substantive
concerns
with
the
briefing
I.
A
I
think
that
was
going
back
to
your
point
of
focusing
on
the
substance.
First.
C
D
In
the
section
on
our
substantive
concerns,
I'm,
no
no,
no,
never
mind,
never
mind
I.
It's
the
the
last
paragraph
in
the
in
the
section
on
substantive
concerns
is
really
about
our
support
for
the
art
bus
system
and
for
its
role,
and
that
needs
to
stay
where
it
is.
B
Okay,
so
I'll
start
at
the
substance
of
Staff
briefings.
D
D
Repetitive
I
that
I
do
want
to
check
with
people
on
and
that
is
of,
as
a
commission
do
do
we
find
that
those
assumptions
were
unreasonable,
which
is
the
wording
that
is
there
now
or
is
it
better
to
to
use?
You
know
more
softer
language.
You
know
inconsistent
with
bus
battery
Trends
in
the
one
case
and
unnecessarily
constraining
in
the
other.
D
H
D
I'll
I'll
say
that
my
you
know
what
I
was
comfortable
with
saying
those
assumptions,
but
if,
but
if
you
know
we
have
to
have
a
consensus
and
I
already
see,
at
least
you
know
that
Joan
prefers
softer
language
I'm
personally,
okay,
either
way
and-
and
my
one
request
is
that
we
reconsider,
at
the
very
end
of
that
section,
A
summation
that
says
that
that's
as
direct
as
as
we
as
a
commission
want
to
be
and
I
think
and
Joan
has
suggested,
deleting
it
and
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
these
assumptions
all
build
on
one
another.
D
D
You
make
that
the
choice
from
for
out
to
2038,
you
know,
I
I
mean
you,
you
gotta
understand
what
they're
what
they've
done
and
then
and
then
you
make
this
two
to
one
rule
that
if,
if
your
bus
battery
isn't
strong
enough
to
do
all
the
routes,
then
you
have
to
have
a
double
sized
Fleet
and
they
build
on
each
other.
So
I
I
felt
like
that.
Summation
was
helpful
and
it's
the
one
place
where
I'd
like
to
be
somewhat
Direct.
A
E
H
C
C
More
direct,
you
know
something
like
unnecessarily
constraining
is
unnecessary.
That's
not
terminology,
I
would
use
if
I
were
reviewing
someone's
data
and
Analysis
and
I
thought
that
their
assumptions
were
flawed,
which
this
is
a
fundamentally
flawed.
Assumption.
I
wouldn't
say
that
it's
unnecessarily
constraining
I.
F
E
A
E
A
A
C
I
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this,
but
I
think
I
made
this
a
comment
previously
John
unreasonable
it
can
be
very
subjective.
Jonathan
and
I
can
disagree
on
what
we
think
is
reasonable,
but
there
are
facts
and
there
are
Technologic.
There
is
a
technological.
We
can
look
both
at
past
as
well
as
technological
road
maps.
Those
are
based
on
facts,
so
it's
not
whether
Jonathan
thinks
it's
unreasonable
or
I.
Think
it's
unreasonable.
H
G
Okay
can
I
ask
a
question
here
when
we
say
contrary
to
Industry,
Trends
I
thought
part
of
the
message
here
was
also
other
governments
are
moving
forward
along
the
lines
that
we
end
up
recommending.
It
was
a
little
bit
more
than
industry,
I
I
think
both
of
those
points
are
very
important
emphasize
because
I
think
some
folks
in
this
are
logically
looking
sideways
at
what
what
other
governments
are
doing,
as
well
as
knowing
what
the
industry
is
doing
in
a.
G
Right
but
I
just
think
there
are
times
when
I
when,
as
I
was
reading,
this
I
was
having
a
hard
time
saying:
what
are
we
comparing
ourselves
to?
Are
we
comparing
ourselves
just
to
how
quickly
the
industry
is
moving?
Sometimes
that
is
very
clear
and
specific
other
times
we
seem
to
be
pairing,
comparing
ourselves
to
other
governments.
H
D
A
E
D
D
H
G
H
K
D
A
Elements
for
do
the
substantive
and
then
come
back
to
the
contextual
background
that
actually
does
kind
of
follow
the
bullets
that
we
put
in
in
the
lead-in,
but
I
mean
if
people
are
comfortable
with
doing
the
contacts
first
I'm
good
on
that
too
I
mean
it.
Doesn't
it's
not
that
critical,
but
I
think
our
strong
point
is,
is
that
you
know
all
of
this
that
the
count
everything
that
the
county
board's
been
told
and
all
the
other
committees
and
commissions
is
just
flawed.
D
L
D
Kudos
to
you
Rebecca
for
being
able
to
build
us
on
the
fly.
It
looks.
E
I
ask
one
quick
question
about
the
Third
recommendation:
I
mean
frankly,
I
would
love
to
have
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
happen,
but
you
say
yeah
the
PowerPoint
have
a
staff
response
being
of
the
other
PowerPoints
flawed,
we're
not
going
to
try
to
defend
it.
We
we
need
to
do
something
better.
So
do
we
want
really
want
them
to
defend
it
or
do
we
want
them
to
either
withdraw?
E
You
know
basically
say
it's
wrong
or
Beef
It
Up,
because
this
ask
them
to
Beef
It
Up
I
mean
if
they're
going
to
use
it,
they
got
to
back
it
up.
I
just
think
it's
better
to
say
look!
This
is
wrong.
D
So
I
may
have
been
a
little
distracted
there
by
the
comments,
but
the
the
idea
is
they've
gone
around
the
county
and
made
claims
made.
Very
you
know
fairly
specific
claims
about
about
Battery
Technology
battery
buses
and
it's
reasonable
to
ask
them
to
Provide
support
for
that.
At
the
very
least
we
did
we
have
already
said
we
have
have
concerns
et
cetera,
but
it's
reasonable
for
the
board
to
say
hey.
You
said
all
these
things
to
us,
where
you
know
show
your
work.
D
E
E
Don't
think
it's
going
to
happen
and
I
agree
that
if,
if
the,
if
the
staff
recommendation
is
going
to
continue
to
stand
by
the
recommendations
embodied
in
that
PowerPoint,
then
they
need
to
do
their
homework,
which
they
have
not
done
and
I
don't
think
they
can
do,
but
even
better
would
be
and
I
think
maybe
we
requested
here
is
either
you
know.
I
don't
want
to
have
to
say
Okay.
We
we
we're
wrong,
but
but
basically
change
the
conclusions
in
the
PowerPoint
or
back
them
up.
D
E
So
maybe
we
can
just
stick
in
some
additional
language
which
says
either
withdraw
the
recommended,
and
you
know
we
draw
the
conclusions
in
the
PowerPoint
or
provide
all
the
backups
specified.
Well.
C
Mark,
if
I
could
just
follow
on
from
your
comment,
we
haven't,
haven't
actually
seen
the
analysis
so
revising
the
analysis.
I
haven't
seen
any.
G
Well,
you
could
say
or
consider
consider
amending
it
in
light
of
the
comments
here.
G
E
G
N
D
We
we
may
be
getting
into
kind
of
comments
that
to
be
directed
towards
staff.
G
D
And,
and
you
know,
provide
them
with
an
opportunity
to,
but
yeah
I
mean.
G
But
I,
let
me
ask
this
question:
do
we
consider
this
PowerPoint
to
be
the
report?
No
I
thought
our
Point
early
on
was
you
haven't
done
a
report?
You've
done
a
PowerPoint,
yeah
and
I.
Think
you
want
to
keep
to
that
thing
to
say
what
we
need
is
the
report.
Well,.
G
So
there
were
one
we
wanted
the
actual
report
and
we
wanted
to
reflect
a
consideration
of
these
comments
and
an
explanation
of
the
rationale
for
their
recommendations.
D
G
D
D
and
assurance
that
at
least
one
of
the
the
options
given
the
board
is
a
transition
plan
that
maintains
a
one-to-one
replacement
ratio.
Q
H
Do
particularly,
we
articulate
that
we
don't
think
there
is
evidence
to
support
I
mean
just
we
should
the
board
should
ask
them
to
provide
the
evidence
to
support
the
the
conclusions
that
appear
in
the
preliminary
results
of
their
analysis.
We
do
not
believe
that
the
evidence
supports
their
conclusions
and,
and
so
I
think
that's
the
case.
D
D
You
know,
support
it
or
or
tell
us,
it's
implicit
that
if,
if
staff
changes
its
its
mind
that
they
would
reply
and
say
and
say
that.
E
D
E
H
And
Demetra
raised
a
point
about
it's:
it's
two
Consultants
consultancies
that
that
have
done
the
bulk
of
it,
and
maybe
we
should
reference
them.
I
mean
like
I.
Don't
do
the
degree
to
which
you
know
any
of
this
was
written
or
approved
or
whatever
by
the
staff
that
maybe
we
should
just
mention
the
the
the
analysis
was
done
by
the
Consultants,
rather
than
something
that
just
the
staff
I
don't
know
that.
D
Right,
it's
referenced.
At
the
same
time,
I
think
assumptions
were
chosen
by
by
staff.
I
I,
don't
that's
the
way.
These
things
usually
work.
Okay,
I
know
you're
right,
okay,.
N
D
D
So
the
fact
she
it's
two
pages
I'll
I'll,
be
very
blunt
and
say
I'm
pretty
happy
with
the
first
page.
I
think.
The
second
page
I
think
that
chart
is
a
very
good
starting
point.
D
I,
don't
I'm,
not
sure
that
it
is
fully
baked
yet
I
think
I
would
be
happier
with
with
page
one
and
I'd
like
to
discuss
page
two
as
to
whether
it
whether
it
how
useful
it
is,
how
how
you
know
where
it
stands.
G
G
We
did
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this
issue
of
the
fuel
cell
versus
bdb
at
in
the
discussion,
and
people
made
some
great
points
in
the
meeting
about
and
you're
making
some
assumptions
here
that
don't
hang
together,
but
I
I
had
a
hard
time
seeing
how
this
was
going
to
be
used
to
help
support
the
themes
of
the
letter
that
we've
just
been
talking
about
and
yeah
I
I,
don't
I,
I
didn't
see
it,
and,
and
sometimes
when
I
looked
at
this
effort
to
be
very
fair
and
balanced
than
the
sort
of.
G
As
you
look
at
the
two
options
to
me,
the
there's,
an
implicit
message
that
gee
This
is
complicated.
There
are
some
pros
and
cons.
Maybe
there
is
a
good
argument
to
sit
back
and
take
more
time
to
think
about
this,
where
the
message
in
the
letter
is
hey
need
to
move
forward.
You
have
the
guidance,
the
analysis
isn't
telling
you
you
need
to
move
away
from
that
and
I
think
this
could
end
up
kind
of
confusing.
A
G
D
E
I
agree
the
second
page
shorter
week,
because
we've
actually
in
the
lead
apps
here
at
the
back
and
forth,
was
we're
not
even
going
to
address
fuel
cell.
In
the
letter
we
just
concentrated
on
on
the
battery
electric
buses,
that
was
in
the
during
the
drafting
process.
That
was
part
of
the
exchange,
and
then
we
have
this
one
stray
sheet
which
kind
of
addresses
why
fuel
cells
are
kind
of
a
red
herring
were
going
off,
which
is
implicit.
If
you
look
at
it,
but
we
don't
tie
that
to
a
letter.
E
So
I
agree,
it's
kind
of
a
straight
point,
so
I
would
drop
the
second
page.
I
would
keep
the
first
page,
because
the
first
page
shows
homework
which
does
support.
E
We
don't
put
footnotes
in
the
letter,
but
the
first
page
is
a
lot
of
the
homework
for
the
conclusions
in
the
letter
like
if
you
go,
click
on
all
these
you'll
see
that
the
industry
Trends
show
the
battery
costs
are
dropping
as
opposed
to
it's
okay,
to
assume
we're
gonna
we
gotta
buy
a
small
battery,
so
I
think
the
even
though
it's
not
tied
together
like
a
law
review
article
with
footnotes,
I
think
the
fact
Sheet's
a
nice
addition.
G
E
I
would
just
leave
implicit
that
we
attached
a
piece
of
paper
shown.
We've
done
a
lot
of
homework
here,
without
even
trying
to
make
that
point
like
I,
say
by
trying
to
do
a
footnote
or
anything.
So,
but
that's
just
my
gut
reaction,
I'm,
okay
with
it
without
any.
A
D
I
think
it's
hard
to
to
work
more
than
a
couple
of
them
in
I
would
change
the
title
to
battery
electric
bus
pack
cheat
because
a
hydrogen
bus
is
also
an
electric
bus.
A
C
A
A
So
Dimitri
you
want
to
give
an
overview
of
terms
of
the
budget
in
respect
to
our
issues.
S
A
S
Very
quickly
so
for
storm
water
we
put
in
a
large
number
of
you,
know,
requests.
We
knew
that
we
weren't
going
to
get
all
of
them,
but
we
had
prioritized
them.
The
managers
budget
recommends
the
addition
of
a
full-time
FTE
for
site
plan
review.
That
is
something
that
you
know.
Staff
certainly
has
been
desperately
needing
since
before
I
got
here,
and
certainly
I've
been
bringing
it
up
for
four
out
of
the
five
years
that
I'd
been
here.
S
There
are
a
couple
of
other
additional
positions
that
are
obviously
being
added,
as
necessity
to
run
the
storm
water
utility
not
to
run
it,
but
to
support
it
so
outside
of
that-
and
we
do
have
additional
maintenance
needs
for
the
system
that
have
been
kind
of
deferred
for
a
while,
so
that
was
added
so
storm
water.
To
be
honest
with,
you
is
reasonably,
you
know
pleased
we
really
needed
that
site
plan
reviewer
and
everything
else
I
think
is-
is
moving
well
with
that.
S
The
we're
on
track
to
meet
the
second,
as
well
as
the
third
ms4
permit,
with
the
CIP
that
we
currently
have,
and
we're
also
right
at
this
minute,
somewhat
successful
in
getting
grants
for
storm
water.
So
I
think
that
you
know
all
of
that
is
very
exciting.
Obviously,
it's
a
little
bit
more
complex
with
air,
because
there's
so
many
different
pots
that
are
considered.
You
know
part
of
the
cep,
support
money.
S
An
Air's
budget
only
reflects
one
when
you
get
to
the
position
that
was
cut.
I
believe
that
you're,
referring
to
the
management
analyst
to
support
the
county
managers,
climate
policy
officer
again
Joan
I
I,
knew
nothing
about
that.
Until
I
saw
the
draft
budget,
it
was
never
discussed.
N
S
In
fact,
so
far,
actually
nothing
has
been
discussed
about
that
office
with
our
office
so
or
at
least
with
me.
So
I
I
think
if
you've
got
a
question
about
that
position,
I'm
not
punting
I'm,
just
telling
you
that
I
know
nothing
about
it.
So
I
think
it
has
to
be
directed
to
the
county
manager.
A
S
There
are
several
that
were
earmarking
and
following
and
the
nofas
and
the
guidance
manuals
are
are
starting
to
roll
off
the
presses
in
March,
so
that
was
added
I
requested
and
got
that
and
then,
as
far
as
the
county,
you
know,
the
cep
action
fund
is
technically
and
the
county
manager's
Reserve
budget,
so
we've
been
going
back
and
forth
and
there
is
funding
in
there
for
Public
Access
public
use,
evse
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure
on
public
sites,
government
sites,
there's
a
certain
additional
fund.
S
Now
I
just
want
to
note
that
we
appear
to
have
gone
back
to
square
one
with
the
city
of
Alexandria,
because
everybody
there
is
basically
telling
us.
They
know
nothing
about
it.
So
we
may
have
to
just
go
forward
on
our
own
and
do
an
independent
study
while
we're
talking
to
jurisdictions
about
their
potential
interest.
In
joining
us
in
a
Community,
Choice,
aggregation
entity
or
agency,
should
that
be
feasible
in
in
the
Commonwealth.
A
So
what
what's
happening
with
the
one
million
dollars
and
I
haven't
seen
anything?
That's
actually
even
articulating
either
what's
been
happening
with
the
one
million
dollars
or
what's
expected
to
be
expended
for
next
year
in
any
kind
of
dollar
amount.
S
N
S
S
A
Yeah
well,
some
of
that
hopefully
could
be
used
to
start
some
of
that
effort,
and
you
had
some
good
ideas
that
you
briefed
Us
in
December.
So
anyway,
generally
my
impression
has
been
in
the
budget.
Is
it's
a
step
back
from
what
was
promised?
Last
year,
other
I
mean
we've
got
the
new
position,
who's
been
hired,
we'll
start
in
next
month,
early
part
of
the
month,
but
other
than
that
they've
walked
back
one
position
and,
as
yet
haven't
even
spent
the
money
that
was
allocated
for
cep
implementation.
A
Nor
does
the
budget-
and
you
know,
articulate
a
whole
lot
of
details.
I
mean
at
least
last
year.
They
devoted
some
of
the
managers
opening
statements.
Now
I
will
be
at
the
work
session
and
probably
getting
more
information,
but
not
so
sure
about
how
much
it
just
it
seems
like
we
put
up
a.
We
talked
about
it
a
lot
last
year,
so
they
talked
about
it
as
being
a
priority
and
now
they're
backtracking,
some,
but
that's
kind
of
my
sense.
Eric.
C
S
It
definitely
rolls
over
so
Joan
what
I
told
you
just
now
is
my
understanding
of
the
recent
iteration
above
us.
You
know
we,
we
obviously
submit
things,
and
you
know
they
they
get
massaged
at
levels
above
us,
so
that
includes
the
additional
supplemental
fund
for
the
government
facility.
You
know
energy
performance
upgrades,
the
Public
Access
public
use,
edsc,
there's
extensive
planning
for
that
I
might
add
in
design
for
the
rest
of
fiscal
year,
23
and
construction
and
fiscal
year,
24.
we're
looking
at
the
first
two
sites
obviously
are
Bozeman.
S
And
the
central
library
and
Steve
Burr,
Stephen,
Burr
and
Adam
calway
have
worked
together.
Adam's
over
at
facilities
have
worked
together
to
identify
a
potential
six
to
seven
additional
sites
and
we
just
have
to
go
in
and
do
the
surveys
Etc
et
cetera,
to
find
out
what
those
sites
can
hold
and
what
they
what
they
would
require,
because
in
a
lot
of
these
sites,
using
Bozeman
as
an
example,
there's
just
no
electric
current
that
runs
into
that
parking
lot.
So
we're
going
to
have
to
draw
the
current
out.
S
S
But
we're
excited
about
the
you
know,
deep
dive
and
the
involvement
or
engagement
of
the
power
utility
here,
because
this
is
something
that
basically
is
a
major
part
of
their
system.
Kevin.
E
Yeah
I
just
want
to
on
the
Dimitri's
last
point
about
government,
leading
by
example
and
making
use
of
public
spaces.
I
would
just
point
out
that
for
the
last
six
months,
the
formerly
publicly
available
charge,
Point
charging
stations
in
the
county
building
have
been
walled
off
because
they
were
one
out
of
order
and
now
something
else
and
then
maybe
it
may
be.
The
developer.
E
S
S
E
To
those
charges,
I
think
that's
great
I
just
know
it
was
a.
It
is
access
to
the
county
building,
that's
pretty
high
profile.
It's
the
first
thing
you
see
when
you
pull
in
that
garage
and
it
used
to
be
publicly
available.
So
it's
worth
I
think
the
county
at
least
inquiring.
Why
is
that
no
longer
publicly
available
what
happened.
S
Okay,
noted
and
I
will
follow
up
on
that.
There
is
something
that
nobody's
raised
and
I'm
going
to
raise
it
here.
Just
to
you
know,
get
ahead
of
the
punch.
It's
another
part
of
the
utility
program
that
is
appealing
to
us
is
there.
They
have,
for
example,
contracts
existing
contracts
with
two
main
charge
charge
vendors,
including
chargepoint.
They
both
include
what
they
call
Premium,
enhanced
maintenance
service
agreements
that,
according
to
Dominion
they're
telling
us
that
they're
very
happy
with
now.
S
You
know,
we've
got
you
on
the
list,
you're
going
to
have
to
wait.
You
know
four
months,
there's
always
an
excuse.
They
have
high
turnover,
at
least
in
the
department
that
we
get
to
call
and
there's
no
continuity
to
it.
So
when
you
are
owning
something
but
you're
having
to
rely
on
third
parties
to
maintain
it,
it's
it's
a
real
problem,
and
it's
not
just
with
us,
because
I
was
in
a
meeting
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
with
several
jurisdictions
in
Northern
Virginia,
and
they
were
all
saying
the
same
thing.
E
I
hear
you
I've
got
a
better
example.
U.S
Department
of
Transportation
has
four
charge.
Point
stations
right
adjacent
to
the
building,
they've
been
out
of
service
for
about
two
years,
so
you
can't
get
any
more
high
profile
on
that.
You
ought
to
have
more
leverage
from
VIP
than
anybody
else.
So
it
is
a
problem.
Yeah.
A
Okay,
yeah
so
kind
of
getting
back
to
the
budget
in
general.
The
next
is,
there
will
be
a
number
of
work
sessions,
but
we
need
to
be
thinking
as
as
a
commission
in
terms
of
what
the
position
is.
You
know
right
now:
I'm
I'm,
actually
just
not
seeing
anything
that
really
indicates
what
they're
doing
to
advance
cep:
implementation
on.
Certainly
the
number
of
fronts
that
we
we
raised
last
year
in
our
budget,
so
I
think
you
know
I.
S
Just
do
want
to
mention
the
infographic
on
you
know
the
county
and
the
team's
performance
under
the
first
two
years
of
the
road
map
and
the
first
two
years.
If,
if
people
really
looked
at
that,
you
could
see
you
know,
we
didn't
shy
away
from
a
challenge
in
that
first,
two
years,
that
that
infographic
was
just
chock,
full
and
loaded
and
there's
an
infographic
that
I
believe
and
a
further
additional
document
that
gives
you
greater
detail
than
the
infographic.
Should
you
want
greater
detail
and
I
think
I
think
Rebecca
did
those
get
out
and.
B
A
I
mean
we
we
did,
you
know
mention
that
you
know
needed
more
outward
facing
yep
activities,
especially
low
in
medium
income
and
I,
believe
the
budget
was
passed
even
before
the
IRA
was
passed,
which
makes
you
know
having
this
type
of
program
even
more
essential,
because
there's
money
on
the
table
but
I
think
also.
You
know
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
making,
sure
and
and
being
transparent
about.
N
N
N
S
A
N
A
Let
me
know
what,
if
you
want
to
kind
of
help,
so
let's
turn
to
the
stormwater
utility
letter.
Stephen
Iona
walk
us
through
it
Rebecca
you
want
to
pull
it
up.
G
J
Yeah,
so
for
the
past,
I,
don't
know
how
many,
how
many
months
the
there
have
been
meetings
held
about
stormwater
utility.
J
J
We
you
know
I
I,
was
in
favor
of
this
and
I
think
we
should
be
in
favor
of
this.
It
can
be
distributed
equitably,
we're
just
more
adding
to
it
and
that
there
could
be
more
done
to
encourage
people
to
reduce
their
previous
service
area.
And
to
do
you
know,
do
you
think
good
things
of
your
environments,
such
as
planting
trees
and
expanding
tree
canopy?
J
So
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
we,
you
know
was
working
with
Joan
and
talking
about
delineating
the
three
to
five
tiers,
which
was
a
reference
to
the
ways
that
the
the
stormwater
utility
kind
of
lays
out.
How
much
you
pay
based
on
your
appropriate
service
area.
J
J
Sorry
I
need
to
pull
this
up
the
name
of
the
program
is
it
arlingtonian
program
that
goes
discontinued
after
the
pandemic
that
could
help
lower
income
individuals,
get
assistance
in
making
change
to
their
property
so
that
they
can
reduce
their
Imperial
surface
area.
So.
I
J
A
Yes,
I
guess
the
only
comment
I
had
I
agree
and
generally
support
the
letter.
The
only
comment
I
had
was,
if
you
scroll
down
to
to
the
stormwater
wise
program,
I
guess
I
would
change
that,
and
instead
of
only
supporting
low
income,
I
I
would
have
it
apply
to
everybody.
Maybe
you
could
pay
on
a
sliding
scale.
According
to
income,
okay,
yeah.
N
A
S
Yeah,
we
don't
have
to
get
into
this
I
just
want
to
note
that
Virginia
law
for
the
establishment-
and
you
know,
implementation
of
stormwater
utilities-
is
really
restrictive
and
it's
restrictive
in
ways
that
we
didn't
anticipate.
So
it
doesn't
allow
us
to
believe
it
or
not,
set
up
any
separate,
low-income
Assistance
or
support
programs.
N
S
A
O
A
Kind
of
crazy
that
that
kind
of
that
kind
of
mechanism
isn't
set
up
to
actually
help
people
reduce
their
storm
water.
A
A
A
We
did
the
same
thing
so
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
quibble
when
we
can
let
the
county
staff
figure
out,
but
you
know
just
to
make
the
point
that
these
Point
programs
are
are
important
to
residents
and
it
also
not
only
provides
an
incentive
to
capture
some
storm
water,
but
it
adds
more
native
plants
onto
the
landscape.
Yeah
supports
our
biophilic
cities.
S
Yeah,
so
there
are
credits
in
there
for
for
that,
and
we
are
Joan
and
again.
This
is
for
future
discussion,
but
we're
working
hard
and
we're
looking
to
update
the
sea
PACE
program,
rich
and
I
and
then
possibly
to
see
if
we
can't
leverage
the
commercial
PACE
program
as
a
mechanism
for
lower
income,
multi-family,
non-profits
and
churches
to
be
able
to
reduce
their
impervious
yeah.
A
Yeah
and
that
you
know
just
right
for
everybody
is
that
there
are
a
number
of
different
ways
to
earn
credits,
including
putting
in
pervious
surfaces
or
conservation
Landscaping.
But
you
know
we
just
wanted
to
focus
specifically
on
trees.
A
Since
that's
such
a
critical
element-
and
you
know
a
potential
of
actually
doing
that
on
that
third
bullet-
maybe
having
it
read
to
storm
or
similar
to
the
storm
water,
wise
program
prioritizing,
and
then
we
can
say
low
income,
affordable
housing
and
non-profits,
and
and
what
kind
of
highlight
the
nonprofits,
because
churches
and
others
who
didn't
pay
property
taxes
didn't
pay
into
the
storm
water
system.
So
now
they're
actually
going
to
be
having
to
pay
into
it,
so
something
that
would
help
them
and
help
the
community.
At
the
same
time,.
A
J
Is
that,
oh
it
just
just
I'm
sorry
part
is
the
the
fact
that
we,
we
are
restrained
so
much
by
Virginia
law
on
this.
S
S
N
J
A
Me
a
post,
okay
got
this
one
done
I
just
wanted
to
raise
something
if
people
are
interested
just
before
the
meeting
Michaela
had
shared
a
letter
that
the
snrp
had
actually
sent
out
on
the
missing
middle
I'd
actually
decided
that
I
didn't
have
enough
time
and
there
wasn't
much
interest
of
delving
through
all
of
the
permutations
that
they're
proposing,
but
the
fnrp
did
send
the
letter
that
seemed
pretty
useful
and
I
think
we
want
to
quickly
review
it.
A
If
we
want
to
just
send
a
very
short
letter
that
just
says
we
support
what
they
they
did
as
follow
on
and
I
send
it
around,
but
I
can
also
pull
it
up
on.
My
screen
share
my
screen.
If
that's
helpful
yeah,
why
don't
you
share
your
screen?
Okay,.
A
So
in
in
summary,
I
guess
the
the
kind
of
new
element
for
me
was
in
in
the
trees
the
suggestion
for
incorporating
trees
onto
lands
for
missing
middle
housing,
and
here
let
me
scroll
through
get
to
the
end
they're
suggesting
instead
of
saying
how
many
go
to
which
you
know
and
a
fourplex
gets
this
and
a
five
Plex
gets
that
tying
it
to
the
lot
size.
So
a
larger
lot
would
have
more
trees,
I
don't
know
Joan.
Do
you
want
to
like
read
it
through
or
yeah?
A
N
A
D
Yeah
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand.
So
the
cphd
study
is
was
is
something
sounds
useful.
It
would
be
outside
of
the
missing
middle
process,
but
certainly
yeah
and
then
likewise,
the
the
tree
planting
tree
planting
approach
that
they're
suggesting
was
not
advertised
right.
So
is
it
outside
the
scope
and
therefore
also
something
that
can't
be
addressed
directly
by
the
board
in
March,
but
could
be
taken
up
separately.
I
D
I'm,
a
little
confused
on
that
front
and
the
the
tree
planting
rules
have
been.
You
know
flawed
and
a
little
complicated,
I
agree
with
them
on
that.
A
A
Right
and
I
suggested
things
like
changing
the
setback
requirement
or
adding
some
flexibility
to
to
where
a
property
is
cited,
and
they
said
they
had
tried
that
and
there's
there's
no
indication
that
that's
going
forward,
so
they
didn't
incorporate
that
into
the
letter.
A
N
A
G
Could
I
get
a
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
whether
the
Chesapeake
Bay
chart
there
is
the
recommendation,
or
it's
referred
to
as
a
guideline?
Is
that
what
it
is
but
I'm
not
sure?
Of
course,
guideline
can
be
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
in
other
words,
what
is
what
is
the
recommendation
that
would
be
binding
here.
A
G
D
And
also
just
just
to
be
clear,
this
would
apply
not
just
a
missing
middle
but
to
all
housing
and
currently
single
families
owned
areas.
D
A
Well,
isn't
the
single
home
single
home
requirements,
20
of
lot
coverage,
yeah
yeah.
A
That
this
actually
makes
it
makes
everything,
because
the
thing
is,
is
the
state
law
says
for
multi-family
units?
You
only
have
to
have
10
percent.
F
F
D
I
think
if
we
do
write
a
short
letter
on
this,
we
just
want
to
confirm
that
it's
within
within
the
scope
of
the
RTA
and
therefore
something
that
the
board
can
actually
do.
N
D
But
with
that
you
know,
aside
from
that
kind
of
question
it,
it
does
seem
like
a
more
sensible
approach
than
you
know,
the
the
staff
proposal
and
and
if
it
actually
applies
to
single
family
as
well
as
multi-family,
that's
more
Equitable
too.
A
Okay
I
mean
you
could
just
write
something
c2e2.
You
know,
in
addition
to
you
know,
following
on
from
our
letter
of
whatever
date,
endorses
the
recent
letter
sent
by
the
forestry
and
natural
resources
plan
plan
to
you
know,
recommending
re-looking
at
lot
coverage
size
and
also
suggestions
on
tree
canopy
coverage
to
the
extent
if
it
fits
within
the
proposed
RTA
that
kind
of
capture
what
you
were
thinking,
John.
D
A
Just
to
highlight
in
our
endorsement
is
that
you
know
if,
if
this
is
within
the
RTA,
we
think
it's
a
great
idea
or
we
could
reach
out
and
then
just
confirm
that
separately
with.
D
A
I
mean
I'm,
pretty
sure
it
is,
or
they
wouldn't
have
done
it,
but
no
harm
in
yeah.
A
D
And
sometimes
that
commission
has
sent
things
you
know
I
I
mean.
Ideally
we
confirm
it
separately,
but
I'll
leave
that
to
you
Joe.
A
I
N
A
So
we
will
just
endure:
send
a
letter
endorsing
cut
okay,
okay,
I
think
we
can
mostly
ready
to
wrap
up
Mark.
Did
you
have
anything
to
say
about
site
plans.
G
I
think
I
said
in
the
email
we
need
to
cover
yeah
four
things
to
cover
the
other
thing.
I
would
just
mention
you
know
the
one,
that's
the
VHC
one
that
is
technically
on
our
list
as
being
not
even
active
or
even
not
even
preliminary,
maybe
all
the
other
all
the
other
projects,
because
it
was
very
clear
in
the
and
I
think
people
saw
the
summary
that
Cindy
put
together
that
Christian
Dorsey
wants
to
have
basically
the
entire
process
of
svrst
review
done
by
October.
G
A
A
D
And-
and
just
you
know,
you
guys
should
never
doubt
that
that
the
hard
work
you
do
makes
a
difference.
It
absolutely
does
and
also
I
won't
be
a
stranger,
so
you
know
consider
a
resource
and
let
me
know
how
I
can
help
we're.
N
I
C
Hey
John,
just
so
you
know
at
the
beginning
of
meetings.
There's
a
three-minute
public
comment
period
and
you
know
might
want
to
consider
you
know.
D
A
J
Oh
I
just
want
to
say
goodbye
John.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
work.
You
were
one
of
you
who
interviewed
me
when
I
when
I
first
came
on
so
I
I
really
appreciate
it.