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And
rolled
up
for
these
meetings,
are
we
doing
notes
in
addition
to
the
recording,
or
is
it
just
going
to
be
the
recording
posted
online.
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C
And
is
a
lease
on?
Do
we
have
a
lease
on
as
well.
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Okay,
my
clock
says
7
p.m,
so
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
our
meeting
first.
I
had
some
opening
remarks
just
about
the
logistics
for
the
meeting
this
evening,
so
welcome
everyone
to
the
july
29
2020,
tenant,
landlord
commission
meeting
for
the
safety
of
our
commission
members,
county
staff
and
participating
community
members.
We
are
holding
our
first
virtual
meeting
today.
All
participants
with
us
today
are
joining
remotely.
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Today's
meeting
is
available
to
stream
from
the
county
website
via
a
microsoft
teams
link.
There
is
also
a
dial-in
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it.
If
commission
members,
presenters
or
speakers
lose
internet
connectivity
during
today's
meeting,
please
reconnect
with
us
by
phone.
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you
are
called
upon
turn
off
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference
for
everyone
joining
us
via
teams.
Please
turn
off
your
video
feed.
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The
meeting
chat
is
active
for
participants
who
need
technical
assistance.
Only
the
meeting
chat
should
not
be
used
for
discussion.
Public
comment,
questions
about
agenda
items
or
requests
for
more
information.
All
public
comments
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record
during
the
assigned
public
testimony
periods,
additional
notes
for
our
commissioners.
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C
Once
you
have
been
recognized,
you
may
unmute
once
you
have
completed
speaking,
please
turn
off
your
video
feed
again
and
it
it
looks
like
we
have
one
commission
member
role.
I
think
he
said
kristin
who's
joined
us
by
phone
today
and
so
kristin
I'll
verbally
check
in
to
see.
If
you
wish
to
be
recognized
since
you
do
not
have
the
video
feed
option
and
is
just
to
clarify.
Is
there
anyone
else?
Who
is
a
commissioner
who's
joining
us
by
phone.
C
Okay,
thank
you
guys.
All
voting
today
will
be
taken
via
roll
call.
G
And
I
on
the
phone
right
now
I'll
be
on
video
shortly.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
elise,
okay,
so
we
have
elise
bisma
and
kristen
by
phone,
but
it
sounds
like
elise
will
be
joining
us
through
microsoft
team
shortly:
okay,
additional
notes
for
our
public
speakers.
You
will
be
called
on
to
speak
at
an
assigned
time
which
will
be
after.
I
finish
this
after
we've
heard
from
speakers
who
have
pre-registered
I'll
recognize
additional
speakers
who
wish
to
comment
as
time
permits
in
the
interest
of
time.
Each
speaker,
whether
representing
an
individual
yourself
or
an
organization,
will
have
three
minutes
to
comment.
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A
speaking,
timer
will
be
displayed
on
the
screen
and
unable
to
see
the
screen
will
provide
an
audible
warning
when
30
seconds
are
remaining
of
your
time
to
speak,
you
will
be
muted
once
your
time
has
concluded.
Lastly,
this
is
a
public
forum.
Today's
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
county
website.
C
All
information
associated
with
today's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken,
is
subject
to
freedom
of
information
act
requirements,
and
that
brings
us
to
our
agenda,
which
I'll
just
quickly
just
run
through
for
people
on
the
call,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
general
public
comment.
As
I
said,
we'll
start
with
people
who
have
pre-registered,
which
I
believe
we
have
two
people
and
then
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
after
that
I
will
call,
and
then
we
will
consider
the
relocation
plan
for
arlington
view
terrace.
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C
No
problem,
okay,
so
I
think
we
can
start
with
our
public
comment
and
rolda
did
you
want
to
call
the
the
first
pre-registered
person
to
speak.
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H
Okay,
good
evening
tenant
and
landlord
commission,
this
is
my
first
time
and
speaking
to
a
group
like
this,
my
name
is
dharma
wilson
and
I
recently
moved
to
the
arlington
area
recently.
I'd
say
I've
been
here
for
about
a
month,
and
I
am
really
addressing
the
commission
to
ask
for
resources
to
handle
a
problem
that
I
have
experienced
in
my
rental
property.
I
have
had
to
actually
reach
out
to
the
police
and
file
a
non-emergency
report.
H
It
requires
the
a
type
of
harassment
that
is
going
on,
but
my
main
concern
is
the
lack
of
support
as
a
single
tenant
not
receiving
support
from
the
management
company
from
my
building.
So
I
wanted
to
know
what
resources
I
could
possibly
use
to
actually
execute
this
and
get
this
problem
resolved.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
and
so
typically
we
would
have
an
opportunity
for
commissioners
to
to
provide
some
advice
and
I'd
like
to
try
and
do
that.
If
we
can
so,
could
you
provide
a
little
bit
more
context
for
us
about
the
the
issue
that
you've
had
to
notify
the
police
about
just
so
that
we
can
help
point
you
in
the
right
direction
as
far
as
some
resources
that
may
be
able
to
help.
H
Okay,
yes,
I
can
the
situation
involved
me
in
our
my
bathroom,
taking
a
shower
and
overhearing
male
voice
voices
describe
my
anatomy.
While
this
was
happening,
I
took
it
to
the
management
and
they
wanted
me
to
gather
proof
by
recording
and
when
I
tried
to
do
that,
the
actual
recording
could
not
be
picked
up
by
the
recording
device,
and
so
therefore
they
actually
stopped
in
supporting
me,
which
is
a
single
tenant,
and
this
raised
concern.
H
So
when
I
did
the
non-emergency
report
with
the
police
and
was
followed
up
with
a
detective
interrogation
over
the
phone
because
of
kovit,
they
were
unable
to
come
and
do
a
physical
presence
of
anything
abnormal.
That
would
cause
this
type
of
harassment.
H
C
Thank
you
for
that
additional
contacts,
one
resource
that
I
I
do
want
to
bring
up
is
bugatta.
So
bugatta
is
a
tenant
organization
that
works
with
the
county
and
works
with
individual
individual
tenants
to
help
ensure
that
any
issues
that
you
have
with
your
your
property
management
company
can
be.
C
You
know,
resolved
and
dealt
with
so
they're,
often
very
helpful
in
ensuring
that,
if
you're
not
really
getting
the
response
from
your
property
management,
your
landlord
that
you
were
hoping
for
to
help
work
with
you
to
to
make
sure
that
you're
able
to
achieve
some
sort
of
resolution,
another
resource
would
be
legal
services.
Northern
virginia,
as
far
as
is
enforcing
your
your
rights
as
a
tenant
to
safety
and
security
on
the
property.
I
think
it
sounds
like
it.
C
This
could
potentially
be
like
a
criminal
matter,
though,
so
I
don't
know
that
legal
services
would
be
involved
in
that
side
of
it,
but
I'm
sure
they
could
definitely,
if
nothing
else
advise
you
on
what
your
rights
are
and
what
you
know,
what
type
of
support
they
think
would
make
the
most
sense
for
this,
and
so
those
would
be
the
two
resources
bugatta
and-
and
we
can
also
follow
up.
C
You
know
our
county
staff
can
can
make
sure
that
you
have
that
their
contact
information
so
that
you
know
they
you
can
reach
out
to
them.
Following
the
meeting.
Did
any
of
the
commissioners
have
any
additional
questions
or
any
things
that
they
anything
that
you
wanted
to
add
and
again,
please
turn
on
your
camera.
C
C
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C
C
Thank
you,
kristin
bismod.
Did
you
have
anything
that
you
wanted
to
to
speak
on.
C
C
Okay,
hearing
none
elise
did
you
have
anything
and
it
actually
looks
like
you
may
have
joined
us
through
teams
at
this
point.
So
if
that's
the
case,
then
I
assume
that
you
don't
have
anything
any
further
questions
or
comments
to
add.
Okay,
well,
thank
you,
commissioners,
and
thank
you
for
that
public
comment
and
we'll
make
sure
that
rolda
or
hector
or
someone
from
the
staff
can
can
follow
up.
C
I
believe
we
have
your
contact
information
since
you
pre-registered
to
ensure
that
we
get
you
those
resources.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Roll
the
next.
C
D
Here
we
are
sorry
again,
michelle
ken
is
the
next
person
chan,
not
sure
if
you
wanted
and
to
have
her
speak
at
this
time
since
her
her
comment
relates
to
item
five
on
the
agenda
or,
if
you'd
like
to
entertain
it
at
that
time
later,
on.
C
I
would
I
would
prefer
it
up
front
if
we
could
just
to
to
make
things
a
little
bit
more
streamlined
during
the
meeting
today.
If
that's
okay
with
michelle.
G
C
Yeah
michelle,
if,
if
that's
what
you
prefer,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
have
you
speak
from
you
know
after
we
present
on
the
topic,
five
so
appreciate
that,
and
we
can
definitely
do
that.
So
thank
you.
Yeah.
C
Sounds
good
so
do
we
have
additional
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
speak
during
public
comment?
If
so,
please
turn
on
your
camera.
So
I
can
recognize
you
or
if
you
are
joining
us
by
phone,
please
sort
of
announce
yourself
and
I
will
call
on.
C
C
Okay
hearing
none,
then
I
think
we
can
move
into
our
next
agenda
item
rolled
out
unless
there's
anything
else
on
public
comment
that
I
missed.
C
Okay
sounds
good,
so
next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
consideration
of
the
relocation
plan
for
arlington
view
terrace.
I
believe
we
have
a
speaker
from
ahc.
J
Hi,
yes,
good
evening,
this
is
hayley
norris,
I'm
with
ahc
inc,
and
I
have
a
presentation
that
I
will
share
here.
So
bear
with
me
just
one
moment.
J
J
J
Okay,
if
someone
could
just
confirm
that
you're,
seeing
that
that
would
be
great.
C
J
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
thank
you
so
much
it's
good
to
be
here
tonight.
My
name
is
hayley
norris.
I
am
a
development
manager
with
ahc
inc
and
we're
presenting
here
the
relocation
plan
for
the
redevelopment
of
arlington
view
terrace.
I
know
this
has
been
a
little
bit
of
a
different
process
this
summer,
but
I
believe
the
commission
has
reviewed
the
relocation
plan
and
we
appreciate
that
you
shared
some
comments
on
that
plan.
J
J
J
We
have
7
500
apartments,
providing
about
18
000
people
with
homes
in
the
region
and
nearly
4
000
of
those
apartments
are
in
arlington
county.
We
also
offer
a
robust
resident
services
programming
in
many
of
our
communities
here
in
arlington
those
emphasize
education,
college,
preparation
and
social
services.
J
So
I
also
have
on
with
me
tonight
housing
opportunities,
unlimited
jaray,
wilson,
a
project
director
with
hou,
is
on.
We
have
partnered
with
hou
on
several
relocations
that
this
commission
has
has
seen
and
approved
over
the
last
few
years.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
durated
to
say
a
few
words
real
quick.
If
that's
all
right,
if
you
want
to
unmute
your
eye.
K
With
working
with
ahc
on
a
number
of
projects,
and
most
recently
in
arlington
virginia,
a
hou
is
a
real
estate,
consulting
firm
who
specializes
in
tenant
in
place,
temporary
and
permanent
relocation
services
across
the
country,
we're
currently
in
32
states
and
have
successfully
relocated
over
30
000
households.
K
J
J
All
right,
sorry,
let
me
share
this
in
powerpoint
instead
of
a
pdf,
I've
had
some
trouble
with
that
recently,
so
we
will
take
a
look
in
a
different
format
that
should
help.
J
Okay,
so
we'll
just
do
a
quick
overview
of
this
redevelopment
now,
which
is
the
reason
you
know
behind
the
relocation
process
that
we're
going
through
so
to
put
in
some
context.
This
is
where
arlington
view
terrace
is
located.
So
if
you
can
see,
we've
got
columbia.
Pike
up
here,
it's
a
little
bit
off
of
that
a
little
bit
south.
It's
actually
bounded
on
two
sides
by
the
army,
navy
country
club.
J
It's
a
really
beautiful
location,
395
runs
down
right
here
and
then
you've
got
the
pentagon
and
then
pentagon
city
really
close
to
the
community
as
well
zooming
in
just
a
little
bit.
This
is
the
entire
arlington
view.
Terrace
community
hc
has
actually
owned
arlington
view
terrace
for
almost
40
years,
since
1982..
J
The
entire
community
right
now
is
77
units
in
seven
different
buildings.
These
ones
here
along
the
golf
course
are
also
part
of
the
arlington
view
terrace
community,
but
this
current
redevelopment
is
going
to
just
be
redeveloping
this
largest
building
on
the
site
down
here
right
above
the
golf
course,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
we're
going
to
be
demolishing
one
30
unit
building
and
replacing
it
with
a
brand
new
77
unit
building,
so
the
total
number
of
apartments
on
the
site
after
that
redevelopment
is
going
to
be
124.
J
This
is
a
rendering
from
raw
kind
of
that
same
view
on
ralph
street,
of
what
the
new
building
is
going
to
look
like.
We
re-zoned
this
through
the
columbia,
pike,
neighborhoods
form-based
code
and
received
approval
for
that
at
the
beginning
of
this
year.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
new
building
is
going
to
be
77
units.
It's
going
to
be
100,
affordable.
Again,
it's
going
to
offer
residents
a
community
room,
a
fitness
room,
there's
going
to
be
a
courtyard
that
you
can't
quite
see
here
but
it'll
be
facing
the
golf
course
we'll
have
structured
parking.
J
You
can
see
the
garage
entry
right
down
here
towards
the
end
of
ralph
street
and
we'll
have
some
solar
panels
on
the
roof
and
the
amenity
that
we
are
really
excited
about
offering
residents
here
is
we're
going
to
be
providing
free,
wi-fi
individual
wi-fi
to
each
unit.
So
I
think
we
have
all
really
realized
over
the
last
few
months
if
nothing
else
that
reliable,
affordable
internet
for
everyone
is
really
really
important.
So
we
are
very
excited
to
be
offering
that
in
the
new
building,
so
here's
another
rendering.
G
J
14Th
road,
so
the
you
are
kind
of
facing
the
golf
course
from
this
view.
So
this
new
building
is
going
to
have
affordable
units
from
30
percent
to
60
of
the
area.
Median
income
it'll
have
an
efficiency
and
it'll
offer
one
two
and
three
bedroom
units
we're
working
with
arlington
county
dhs
to
provide
vouchers
for
eight
permanent
supportive
housing
units.
It'll
be
a
hundred
percent
meeting
universal
design
requirements
in
the
building
and
will
offer
eight
fully
accessible
units.
J
So
this
slide
is
showing
you
the
unit
and
affordability
mix
for
the
new
building.
The
current
30
unit
building
is
32
bedroom
apartments
and
they
are
all
affordable
at
or
below
60
of
the
area.
Median
income.
What's
unique
about
this
community
is
that
all
of
the
units
have
a
hud
section:
8
hat
contract
on
them,
and
what
this
means
is
that
each
household
pays
no
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
towards
their
monthly
rent
and
then
hud
pays
the
rest
between
the
rent,
that's
charged
by
the
property
and
what
the
tenant
can
pay.
J
In
all
current
residents
who
live
at
arlington
view,
terrace
are
at
or
below
that
60
of
the
area,
median
income,
so
all
are
going
to
be
within
these
same
income
limits
for
the
new
building
as
well,
and
then
I
have
exciting
news
to
share
related
to
this
hud
section,
8
half
contract.
J
While
they
are
relocated
and
then
it
will
come
back
to
the
new
building
so
their
rent
and
how
they're
paying
that
will
remain
exactly
as
it
does
now,
and
we
recently
for
those
of
you
who
who
were
on
the
commission
a
few
years
ago.
Ahc
also
recently
did
this
at
our
rehabilitation
of
colonial
village
west.
J
So
here's
a
look
at
our
timeline,
we're
looking
at
approximately
30
up
to
36
months
for
the
period
of
relocation
here
now
in
july,
hou
and
their
team
have
conducted
nearly
all
of
the
one-on-one
resident
assessments
with
hud
and
the
county
approval
in
august.
We
look
forward
to
sending
out
the
120
day
notices
we're
in
the
process
of
identifying
relocation
units
and
we
are
looking
for
those
largely
in
ahc's
own,
affordable
portfolio
in
arlington.
J
As
I
mentioned,
that's
about
4
000
units,
so
there
there
are
sufficient
units
for
for
everyone
to
be
relocated,
and
then,
between
august
and
december
of
this
year
the
30
households
in
this
current
building
will
move
to
these
relocation
apartments.
J
So
an
overview
of
the
relocation.
Again
it's
going
to
be
for
30
to
36
months.
While
we
demolish
the
existing
building
and
build
the
new
one
that
hap
rental
subsidy
is
going
to
go
with
residents
through
this
pass-through
agreement
with
hud,
and
then
it
will
come
back.
So
the
resident
will
pay
no
more
rent
at
the
relocation
department
than
they
are
today.
All
residents
will
have
free
moving
assistance
or
be
reimbursed
for
moving
costs,
so
the
rent
is
not
going
to
come
out
of
any
of
the
residents.
J
J
As
I
mentioned,
hiu
has
been
conducting
one-on-one
interviews
with
each
household
to
determine
their
individual
needs
for
everyone,
whether
that's
for
seniors,
for
families
with
children
for
anyone
that
has
a
particular
need
in
their
new
relocation
community
we're
working
with
school-aged
children
and
their
families.
I
know
the
school
situation
right
now
is
frankly
a
little
bit
different,
but
we
are
working
with
them
to
try
to
minimize
any
school
disruption
to
students.
J
We
will
be
assisting
with
transportation
as
needed
to
or
from
relocation,
housing
or
appointments,
and
all
residents
are
going
to
receive
relocation
priority
at
existing
ahc
communities.
So
if
someone's
interested
in
another
community
in
the
ahc
portfolio
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
they
are
able
they're
at
the
top
of
the
list
to
get
to
get
a
unit
at
those
communities.
J
So
obviously,
when
we
first
drafted
this
relocation
plan
covet
had
not
happened
yet,
so
this
has
led
to
some.
You
know
some
changes
in
the
process
since
we
created
this
initial
plan,
and
here
are
some
of
the
the
steps
and
the
procedures
we've
taken
to
try
to
mitigate
any
any
risk.
J
J
Hou
is
following
best
practices
for
move,
outs
and
move-ins,
really
minimizing
kind
of
vendor
and
mover
the
number
of
folks
in
and
out
of
apartments
to
make
sure
everyone's
staying
safe
and
then,
of
course,
we
are
cleaning
any
vacant
unit
that
anyone
might
be
moving
into
prior
to
any
any
relocation
or
move
in,
and
you
know
today
we
have
not
had
any
residents
express
concern
about
moving
at
this
time,
so
we're
sensitive
to
all
concerns,
but
that
one
has
not
come
up
as
as
a
particular
concern
at
this
point.
J
So
you
know
we
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
will
take
any
questions
now,
but
we
are
looking
forward
to
keeping
this
relocation
process
as
smooth
and
easy
for
everyone
as
possible,
and
we're
really
excited
about
this
new
community
that
we'll
have,
in
a
couple
of
years
for
residents
to
move
back
to.
J
Let
me
just,
should
I
leave
I'm
sorry,
should
I
leave
the
powerpoint
up
or
should
I
take
it
down?
Let
me
know
what
you
want
me
to
do.
C
I
you
can
probably
take
it
down.
I
think
that's
fine
haley,
so
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
and
then
it
looks
like
I'm
getting
an
echo
if
everyone
else
could
meet.
Thank
you
so
the
way
that
we'll
we'll
do
this
is
again.
If
members
of
the
commission
have
a
question
or
comment,
please
turn
on
your
video
feed
or,
if
you're
on
the
phone.
Let
me
know
I
believe
at
this
point
that
bisma
is
the
only
one
who's
still
on
the
phone.
C
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
and
then
once
members
of
the
commission-
and
I
think
we'll
also
try
to
do
you
know
each
member
of
the
commission
speaks
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
next
person
before
we
go
back
to
the
same
member,
just
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
a
chance
to
to
speak
and
then
once
members
of
the
commission
have
had
a
chance
to
ask
their
questions
or
you
know,
provide
feedback,
we'll
open
it
up
for
anyone
else
joining
us
today
to
ask
a
question
as
well,
and
so
my
my
first
question
was
just
about
the
the
units
that
these
residents
are
able
to
move
to.
C
Are
there
restrictions,
because
this
is
a
project-based
section,
eight,
that
they
can
only
move
into
other
project-based
section
8
units,
or
are
they
able
to
move
to
any
sort
of
unit
that
sort
of
matches
the
voucher
program
like
payment
standard,
or
are
there
any
specific
restrictions
on
what
type
of
units
they
can
temporarily
relocate
to?
Thank
you.
J
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
They
would
not
have
to
move
to
other
section
8
voucher
communities
during
relocation.
We
are,
you
know,
seeking
to
match
them
up
kind
of
to
comparable
units
within
ahc's,
affordable
portfolio
because
they
have
the
section
8
voucher,
they're
not
eligible
to
receive
taf.
In
addition,
so
they
will
their
units
they're,
really
they're,
really
relocated
to
will
be
kind
of
in
that
same
same
range,
but
there's
not
a
restriction.
C
Okay,
thank
you
other
members
of
the
commission.
Please
turn
on
your
video.
If
you
have
a
question
or.
F
Feedback,
so
I
this
is
bisma.
I
apologize
that
this
has
already
been
asked,
but
what
kind
of
notice
has
been
given
to
tenants
about
relocation
plans
so
far.
J
So
we
sent
out
an
initial
notice
this
spring.
I
would
have
to
check
on
the
exact
date
that
that
went
out,
but
there
was
an
initial
notice
of
relocation
that
went
out
this
spring
and
we
had
a
tenant
meeting
this
spring
as
well
to
discuss
the
relocation
plan
and
then
hou
has
has
now
met
or
virtually
met
with
all
of
the
residents
and
the
formal
120
day
notice
will
go
out
next
month.
I
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
occupancy
standards:
it's
fairly
normal
based
on
building
housing
codes
that
it's
two
per
bedroom,
plus
one
for
your
occupancy
standards,
and
I
was
curious
as
to
why
yours
was
a
for
a
two
bed
for
a
one
bedroom.
It
was
only
two
people
and
for
a
two
bedroom,
it
was
only
four
bed.
Four.
C
Thank
you
next
curate.
L
Yeah
I
just
want
to
clarify
my
question
between
drafts
was
about
the
set
affordable
housing
that
it's
now
on
pages
seven
and
eight
or
overlaps,
where
it
talks
about
hud
marking
up
the
rents,
30
and
then
says
the
rents
will
be
the
contract.
Rents
are
examined
on
an
annual
basis.
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
if
are:
are
we
telling
the
tenants
that
this
means
there's
a
possibility?
Their
rent
could
go
up
based
on
their
income
or
not.
J
That's
a
really
good
question:
that's
very
hud
lingo,
and
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
because
I
think
it's
not
apparent
so
what
the
markup
to
market
does
is.
It
permits
the
property
to
increase
the
amount
of
rent
for
that
unit
based
on
the
community,
the
condition
of
the
property?
You
know
it:
it's
not
a
property
from
1960
anymore,
it's
now
from
2020.,
but
what
hud
would
do
is
they
would
mark
up
the
permissible
rent
on
that
unit
in
total,
the
tenant
calculation
for
their
paid
rent
does
not
change.
E
J
Yeah,
that's
a
really
good
question.
The
tenant
would
not
pay
more
because
of
the
markup
to
market.
Now.
If
a
tenant's
income
went
up,
then
their
their
rent
would
change,
because
that's
how
hud
does
the
does
the
voucher
program
or
does
the
section
8
program,
but
that
would
be
unrelated
to
a
markup
to
market.
C
C
Is
that
just
looking
at
arlington
or
are
you
looking
at
sort
of
arlington
and
alexandria
and
the
northern
virginia
area.
J
We've
been
looking
predominantly
at
arlington,
because
my
understanding
is
is
that
is
what
folks
have
expressed
the
most
interest
in,
because
it's
you
know
it's
home,
the
home
community,
if
some,
but
if
someone
were
to
be
interested
in
looking
somewhere
else,
we
could
entertain
that
as
well.
I
believe,
as
long
as
that
fit
within
the
hud
parameters.
J
And
as
far
as
the
vacancies
across
I
can,
I
can
double
check
how
many
vacancies
are
across
the
property
right
at
this
time
there
will
be
some
difference
in
the
number
of
vacancies
versus
kind
of
the
comparable
or
appropriate
unit
vacancies.
So
is
it?
Would
there
be
a
helpful
which
one
of
those
would
be
more
helpful
to
share
with
you.
C
I
think
the
comparable
one
would
be
most
helpful.
I
just
want
to
get
a
better
sense
of.
Is
there
so
much
sort
of
access?
You
know
units
available
that
it
really
should
be
super
easy
to
find
a
property,
or
could
it
be
somewhat
challenging
for
some
of
the
residents
to
find
a
property
gotcha.
J
Now
that's
a
good
question
and
I
think
it
helps
that
it
can.
It
can
stagger
a
little
bit
across
the
next
couple
of
months,
but,
yes,
I
will
double
check
on
what
that
number
is
right
at
this
point
and
it
changes
every
week,
of
course,
because
tenants
give
notice
to
vacate
and
that
I
can
find
out
what
it
is
right
at
this
point
of
time
and
I'll
send
that
over.
C
Thank
you
other
comments
or
questions
from
commissioners.
M
G
J
Think
it
depends
property
to
property
a
little
bit
exactly
and
newer
ones
tend
to
have.
You
know
one
of
the
community
redevelopments
that
this
commission
heard
about
was
the
berkeley
which
is
now
the
apex.
So
that's
at
least
up,
and
has
you
know
over
a
thousand
people
on
a
waitlist
right
now,
because
it's
brand
new,
it's
lacing
up
and
some
of
the
others
don't
have
don't
tend
to
have
extensive
ones,
so
it
wouldn't
be.
It
wouldn't
be
jumping
over
a
lot
of
folks
in
line
or
anything
keeping
a
lot
of
folks
from
housing.
M
Well,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
ask
how
that
weightless,
the
waitlist
process,
if
you
have
a
bunch
of
tenants
that
need
to
move
in,
if
you
have
the
waitlist
say
with
a
thousand
people
on
it,
which
is
obviously
a
lot
of
people,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
units
adus
with
buildings,
not
affordable
buildings,
but
have
these
long
wait
lists.
So
I
was
just
curious.
Thank.
C
Okay,
so
again,
if
you're
wanting
to
speak,
please
turn
on
your
camera
or
I
believe
someone
had
said
in
the
chat
that
they
wanted
to
to
speak
on
this
issue
or
they
had
a
question.
I
think
it
was
number
12.,
so
I'm
happy
to
recognize
number
12.
First,
if
you're
able
to.
B
J
Yes,
I
see
the
question
in
the
chat,
so
I
can
explain
that
a
little
bit
better.
So
the
question
was:
will
the
solar
those
in
the
chat?
Will
the
solar
reduce
our
electricity
bill?
Can
you
elaborate
on
that?
Please
it's
a
good
question
and
the
amount
of
solar
we're
able
to
put
on
the
building
is
what
we're
able
to
do
with
that
is
kind
of
pay
for
it.
It'll
it'll.
It
will
be
tied
to
the
building's
electric
bill
rather
than
each
end
of
it's
a
lot
to
connect
it
to
each
individual
unit's
meter.
J
So
it's
not
going
to
reduce
the
each
resident's
electric
bill.
It'll
reduce
the
overall
community's
electric
bill.
Now
we
are
also
this
building
is
going
to
meet.
I
forgot
to
mention
this
one
earthcraft
gold
standards.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
really
efficient
building
and
I
would
anticipate
that
electric
bills
should
be
lower
in
this
building
than
than
an
older
building
is
so
even
if
the
solar
isn't
offsetting
the
electric
bill
a
little
bit.
It's
going
to
have
high
efficiency
appliances
and
meet
some
so
much
more
green
standards.
C
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
other
other
members
of
the
public
with
a
question?
If
so,
please
turn
on
your
camera
or,
if
you're
joining
us
by
phone,
please
just
unmute
yourself
and
and
announce
that
you
have
a
question.
J
C
Okay,
so
it
does
not
look
like
we
have
any
additional
comments
or
questions
at
this
time,
and
this
is
an
item
for
action
before
the
tlc.
I
know
we
had
some
questions
that
it
would
be
great
to
get
some
follow-up
on.
C
I
don't
know
if
those
are
items
that
would
prevent
us
from
approving
this
or
recommending
to
approve
it
today,
if,
if
that
is
the
case
or
if
someone
does
want
that
information
prior
to
having
that
vote,
please
turn
on
your
camera
or
you
know
announce
yourself
on
the
phone
commissioners
and
let
me
know
if
your
vote
is
dependent
on
receiving
the
information
that
we've
requested
today
or,
if
we're
okay,
to
move
ahead
and
if
we're
okay,
to
move
ahead,
you
don't
need
to
say
anything.
C
Okay,
it
looks
like
we
are
okay,
moving
forward
with
the
vote
to
recommend
approval
for
the
relocation
plan
and
I
think
again
we
would
still
like
to
get
that
follow-up
from
you
guys
so
that
we
have
that
information.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
So
rolda
did
you
want
to
do
the
the
roll
call
vote.
D
C
C
Okay:
next,
we
have
zach,
yay
or
nay.
B
C
Okay-
and
I
also
vote
yay,
kyra,
yay
or
nay,.
E
C
Thank
you
and
matthew,
yay
yay!
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much,
haley
nhc.
For
your
time
and
again,
we
look
forward
to
receiving
the
follow-up
information
from
this
meeting
at
your
earliest
convenience.
So
thank.
J
C
Thank
you
very
much
so
the
next
item.
J
C
Our
agenda
is
the
are
the
proposed
2021
legislative
priorities.
This
item
is
also
for
action,
and
so
I
had
sent
out
a
draft
version
of
what
these
priorities
could
be,
and
I
received
one
piece
of
feedback
from
kristin
today.
Kristin.
Thank
you
for
that,
but
I
did
not
receive
any
additional
recommendations
or
other
items
from
commissioners
to
add
to
the
the
draft.
C
So
I'll
just
quickly
provide
a
brief
overview
of
each
of
the
items
and
then
open
it
up
for
discussion
and
again,
the
discussion
will
proceed
with
each
person
can
save
their
piece
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
person.
And
if
someone
wants
to
say
something
again,
we'll
wait
until
we've
gone
through
all
the
commissioners
before
circling
back.
So
the
first
item
is
requiring
that
tenants
be
provided
an
opportunity
to
purchase
a
multi-family
building
if
the
owner
decides
to
sell.
C
So
this
is
a
recommendation
modeled
after
a
piece
of
legislation,
hb
1249
that
passed
the
general
assembly
and
was
signed
by
the
governor
this
year
and
that
was
specific
to
mobile
parks
and
manufactured
homes
and
providing
park
residents
with
the
the
ability
to
well
one
that
they
have
to
be
notified.
C
If
the
park
owner
intends
to
sell
the
park
and
also
giving
them
60
days
to
essentially
assemble
an
offer
for
consideration
to
purchase
the
entity
and
the
the
main
reason
behind
that
is
so
that
they
can
keep
living
there
and
they
can
keep
it
from
being
redeveloped
or
used
for
something
else
that
could
lead
to
their
potential
eviction,
and
so
currently
dc
has
something
similar
for
multi-family
properties.
C
So
if
a
multi-family
building
owner
decides
to
sell
that
building,
this
would
require
that
he
has
to
notify
the
tenants
within
you
know,
60
days
prior
to
the
sale,
as
well
as
the
virginia
department
of
housing
and
community
development,
which
is
basically
language
from
the
the
build
that
this
was
modeled
after
and
that
tenants
would
have
an
opportunity
to
assemble
an
offer
that
represents
at
least
25
of
the
existing
tenants
and
that
the
owner
would
be
required
to
consider
the
offer
as
long
as
it's
made
within
that
60-day
period,
to
potentially
protect
the
tenants
from
being
displaced
through
redevelopment
or
really
redevelopment.
C
So
with
that,
I
will
open
this
up
to
comments
and
questions.
Please
turn
on
your
video
and
I
will
recognize.
C
F
Yeah
so
sorry
for
not
getting
comments
too
in
advance,
but
I
figured
I'd
get
them
to
now,
so
we
find
this
pretty
pop
problematic
we've
seen
in
other
localities
that
you
know,
although,
although
the
intent
is
great,
we've
seen
that
the
process
gets
held
up,
you
know
even
up
to
a
year
and
I
can
get
some
pulse.
You
know
some
facts
for
you
on
that.
F
I
don't
have
it
right
now,
but
I
can
send
that
around
to
the
commission,
but
that
is
one
of
the
primary
concerns
of
this
policy
position.
On
our
perspective,.
I
Questions
sure
this
is
christian
just
to
follow
up
on
what
I
sent
out
to
you
earlier
today,
kellen.
I
I
think
that
I,
I
think
it's
problematic
for
many
of
the
same
reasons
bisma
has
mentioned,
but
I
also
really
feel
like
we
have
so
many
issues,
so
many
things
to
address
that
it
feels
like
we're
really
stepping
way
outside
of
our
comfort
zone
and
to
to
have
an
action
item
of
this
magnitude
without
a
lot
of
conversation
and
a
lot
of
historical
information
and
really
to
to
assess
what
other
communities
are
doing.
I
I
just
I
don't
know
that
it's
worth
our
time
at
this
moment,
I
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
have
not
read
recently
in
any
of
the
trade
journals
newspapers
seen
on
the
news
that
this
is
a
hot,
a
hot
topic
or
or
a
concern
if
it
were-
and
I
I
think
that
I
would
know
I
think
bismuth
would
know-
I
think
it's
just
not
not
something.
I
F
This
is
bisma,
I
just
want
to.
You
know,
agree
with
kristin.
I
think
you
know
that
she
took
the
words
right
out
of
my
mouth.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
bisma,
any
anyone
who
has
not
spoken
yet
did
you
have
a
comment
or
question
on
this
specific
item.
L
It's
not
me
if
there's
feedback,
but
I'm
in
I'm
in
favor,
because,
as
I
understand
it,
a
legislative
priority,
this
says
we're
advocating
that
one
of
our
delegates
presented
as
a
bill,
it
hasn't
been
passed,
we're
just
getting
the
ball
started,
and
I,
for
a
couple
of
years
now
I've
been
talking
to
the
county
board
members,
including
matt
d
ferrante,
that
arlington
is
not
doing
a
lot
of
things
that
other
jurisdictions
do
a
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase,
which
is
done
in
dc
washington
state,
where
my
family
lives,
there's
all
kinds
of
things,
housing
related
things
that
they
do,
that
arlington
and
virginia
does
not
do
so.
L
O
This
is
chris
just
a
question
generally
about
so
I'll,
just
I'll,
speak
and
then
I'll
go
mutant,
camera
off
again
a
question
generally
about
what
the
process
is
right
now.
I
honestly,
I
don't
know
too
much
about
it
if
there
is
any
process
and
then
I'm
actually
a
little
on
the
fence.
I
I
happen
to
actually
find
this
very
interesting
and
I
would
not
be
opposed
to
recommending
this
to
move
forward
just
so
that
we
could
get
the
ball
rolling.
O
I
do
understand
where
kristen
and
bismarck
are
coming
from,
though,
and
I
think
like
kristen,
I
I
also
kind
of
agree
that
maybe
this
is
not
you
know-
maybe
this
isn't
ripe
for
a
conversation
just
yet,
but
I
don't
want
that
position
to
be
interpreted
as
not
being
in
favor
of
moving
this
forward.
Eventually,
I
just
think
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
that
has
to
happen
on
the
topic.
O
C
And
I
I
can
take
it
first
out
of
that.
If
someone
else
you
know
has
a
different
idea.
C
So
my
understanding
is
that
if
a
property
owner
currently
wants
to
sell
their
building
that-
and
they
currently
have
it's
a
multi-family
building,
they
have
tenants
in
it
that
the
only
requirement
to
sell
the
property
is
that
they
provide
adequate
notice
to
the
tenants,
which
would
be
the
eviction
notice,
that
they
will,
assuming
that
the
next
owner
will
not
be
keeping
those
tenants
on,
and
I
believe,
there's
a
requirement
to
notify
the
tenants
as
well,
that
there's
been
a
or
there
will
be
a
change
in
ownership,
but
other
than
that.
C
I
do
not
believe
there
are
any
requirements
in
virginia
beyond
just
the
notification
of
the
change
in
ownership
of
you
know,
kind
of
knowing
that
this
is
the
new
landlord
or
that
you
know
if
it's
going
to
be,
let's
say,
converted
into
sold
and
then
redeveloped
into
office
space
or
something
that
they
would
also
receive.
An
eviction
notice
saying
that
you
know
you
need
to
be
out
by
the
state,
because
this
property
will
no
longer
be
a
multi-family
residential
building.
C
But
if
there's
anything
that
I
miss
in
that,
please
other
commissioners
feel
free
to
to
jump
in,
or
staff.
M
M
In
my
years
of
being
in
property
management,
when
a
multi-family
building
gets
sold,
I
have,
and
I
work
you
know,
on
the
residential
side,
we
have
commercial
clients
with
my
company,
but
more
so
residential
clients
in
the
multi-family,
it's
not
too
often
or
common
that
one
a
unless
there's
a
big
project
going
on
on
the
property
when
it's
taken
over,
which
again
is
rare
right
at
the
sale
of
a
property
where
residents
would
be
told
that
they
had
to
get
out,
and
I
would
have
to
agree
with
kristen
and
bisma,
based
on
what's
going
on
in
the
world
right
now
with
kovid.
M
I
think
that
the
best
thing
for
us
to
do
is
is
to
focus
more
so
on
on
on
that
side
of
it,
and-
and
so
I'm
that
that's
where
I
stand,
and
so
I
kind
of
stand
with
biesma
and
kristen
on
this
one.
C
Thank
you
other
comments
or
questions
from
members
of
the
commission
who
have
not
yet
spoken.
C
Okay,
do
we
have
any
comments
or
questions
from
staff
or
members
of
the
public
who
are
on
the
participate
participating
in
this.
C
C
Okay
does
not
look
like
it,
so
I
guess
probably
the
easiest
thing
to
do
would
be
to
treat
these
each
as
separate
items
and
so.
P
Again,
my
name
is
patrick
allgeyer,
I'm
the
executive
director
for
the
northern
virginia
apartment
association,
and
I
do
feel
that
there
is
not
enough
information
to
make
a
qualified
decision
on
this
matter.
I
don't
believe
we
have
all
of
the
necessary
people
at
the
table
to
discuss
this,
such
as
brokers,
a
larger
representation
of
ownership
groups
and
those
who
have
potentially
recently
gone
through
a
sale
or
an
acquisition.
P
C
Okay,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
just
want
to
say,
sort
of
what
led
me
to
propose
this
is
that
this
is
an
item
that
I've
seen
a
lot
of
talk
about,
especially
for
the
next
general
assembly
session.
I
believe
this
was
included
as
part
of
the
the
democratic
convention
sort
of
recommendations
for
like
the
the
party
platform
in
virginia
for
this
year,
so
it
is
something
that
is
being
talked
about,
at
least
on
the
the
political
side
and
in
talking
to
different
housing
advocates
within
arlington.
C
I've
heard-
and
this
is
essentially
topa.
I've
heard
this
come
up
in
lots
of
conversations
as
something
that
people
are
really
interested
in
and
looking
at
as
a
tool
for
affordable
home
ownership
and
also
helping
just
provide
more
security
and
stability
for
renters.
I
think
that
this
is
not
a
assuming
that
you
know
this
were
drafted,
the
details
were
ironed
out,
and
this
was
passed
in
virginia.
It
likely
would
not
be
a
huge
impactful
policy
as
far
as
affordable
housing
goes.
I
think
it
would.
C
It
would
be
a
tool
for
some
residents,
but
it's
not
something
that
you
know
these.
These
type
of
ownership
changes
in
sales.
I
don't
know
that
they
happen
often
enough
that
this
is
something
that's
really
going
to
change
the
affordable
housing
landscape
to
a
large
degree,
and
I
think,
just
to
acknowledge
in
dc-
and
I
think,
as
as
one
of
the
commissioners
brought
up,
there
have
been
concerns
about
like
topa
and
the
length
of
time
and
how
that
law
was
being
used
by
people
sort
of
inappropriately
and
misusing
it.
C
The
dc
council
did
pass
revisions
in
2018
so
that
it
no
longer
applied
to
single
family
homes
and
that
it
only
applied
to
multi-family
buildings,
and
they
also
tightened
up
some
of
the
requirements
to
try
and
fix
some
of
those
concerns
that
were
raised.
So
I
think
it's
what's
difficult
about
these
is
that
I
think
it's
rare
that
any
of
us.
C
Propose
a
fully
developed
you
know
like
this
is
exactly
what
the
text
of
the
law
should
be
it's
more.
This
is
an
idea
that
we
want
you
to
look
into.
C
So,
while
I
agree
with
you
know
some
of
the
the
concerns
or
some
of
the
the
things
raised
by
the
landlords
that
you
know
it
does
deserve
more
conversation
and
study,
I'm
not
sure
how
else
to
advocate
that
that
conversation
begin
happening
other
than
than
to
make
a
recommendation
that
this
be
considered,
because
I
don't
know
that
you
know
within
our
commission
we're
going
to
be
the
vehicle
to
necessarily
do
that.
So
that's
kind
of
my
thinking
on
it.
C
That's
why
I,
you
know
recommended
it
and
I
think
I
still
support
it,
but
I
I
hear
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised
and-
and
I
I
respect
that
you
know-
there's
still
a
lot
of
other,
a
lot
of
other
thought
and
things
that
we
need
to
go
into.
You
know
this
before
it
became
a
bill
or
you
know
more
policies
to
iron
out,
so
I
just
want
to
give
sort
of
my
thoughts
on
on
why
I'd
recommended
it.
So
before
we
go
to
a
vote,
are
there
any?
E
A
E
I
And
what
you
wrote,
aren't
the
same
thing
in
your
recommendation.
You
wrote
virginia
should
require
housing
providers
who
intend
to
sell
a
building
you're
telling
you've
just
told
us
that
you
want
us
to
consider
it.
As
you
know,
hey,
why
don't
we
go
out
there
and
look
and
see
whether
this
is
a
good
idea
or
not?
That's
not
what
your
recommendation
said.
Your
recommendation
said
virginia
should
require
that
that's
a
little
bit
different
from
what
you've
just
presented.
C
But
as
far
as
all
of
the
details
of
it,
I
think
that
you
know
yes,
there
should
be
more
conversations
about
exactly
what
how
this
bill
would
be
structured-
and
you
know,
is
there's
there's
a
lot
more.
That
goes
into
it
than
just
the
paragraph
that
I've
written.
But
yes,
I
do
support
the
paragraph
as
I've
written
it,
but
I
I
agree
that
I
think
you
know,
were
the
general
assembly
to
move
forward
with
this
and
the
arlington
county
board.
I
C
Thank
you
for
the
comment,
any
other
comments
or
questions
from.
F
Sorry
this
is
bisma
yeah,
so
you
know
what
I
feel
like
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
more
collaboration
before
we
list
out.
You
know
first,
what
we
want
as
legislative
priorities,
especially
given
covid.
I
think
both
the
first
and
the
second
priorities
are
very
problematic,
they're,
very,
very,
very
big
issues
and
they
need
a
lot
of
discussion
before
we
just
say:
hey
yeah.
This
is
what
we're
going
to
recommend
to
the
county
board.
So
I
would
just
you
know
if
we're
voting,
everybody
keep
that
in
mind.
C
E
Are
we
able
to
put
this
on
the
screen
to
share
to
urbias,
like
kristen,
said.
C
Yes,
actually
that
that
would
probably
be
preferable
hector.
Are
you
able
to
to
pull
it
up
and
share.
C
I'm
happy
to
read
it
out
loud.
So
under
the
purpose
statement,
it
says
in
2020
the
virginia
general
assembly
extended
the
right
of
manufactured
home
park
residents
to
provide
an
offer
to
the
park
owner
within
60
days
of
receiving
notice
of
the
park
owner's
intent
to
sell,
and
then,
in
parentheses,
it
was
house
bill.
1249.
C
The
park
owner
is
obliged
to
consider
any
offer
received
during
the
60-day
period
from
any
entity,
demonstrating
that
it
represents
at
least
25
percent
of
the
existing
tenants
with
a
valid
lease.
Extending
the
same
protection
and
opportunity
to
multi-family
rental
property.
Tenants
would
provide
additional
protection
from
redevelopment
displacement
and
housing
and
security.
Similar
protections
are
currently
provided
to
residents
in
dc.
C
The
recommendation
is
virginia
should
require
housing
providers
who
intend
to
sell
a
multi-family
building
to
notify
the
department
of
housing
and
community
development,
which
would
place
the
information
on
its
website
within
five
business
days
of
receipt
and
consider
additional
offers
to
purchase
the
multi-family
building
made
by
an
entity
that
provides
documentation
that
it
represents
at
least
25
percent
of
the
tenants
with
available
lease
in
the
building.
At
the
time
any
such
offer
is
made
within
the
60-day.
Q
I
C
Sure
yeah
we
can,
we
can
double
check.
H
C
Interesting,
okay!
Well,
thank
you
guys
for,
for
catching
that,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
to
amend
it,
the
language
to
to
match
what
the
the
current
legislation
says
for
hb.
C
I
I
C
Do
we
again,
I
ask,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
amend
the
tax
to
change
it
to
90.
L
C
Okay,
sorry,
it's
just
challenging
on
teams
to
do
it
this
way.
Okay!
So
first
we'll
vote
on
amending
where
anywhere
where
it
says
60
days
to
90
days,
and
I
will
do
roll
call
for
that.
C
Zach
yay
or
nay
yay.
Thank
you,
kristen,
yay
or
nay,.
M
C
Thank
you,
chris
yay
or
nay,
yes,
yay.
M
C
Thank
you
and
I'm
also
yay
kira
yernae.
A
C
Sorry
that
was
yay.
You
said
yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
matthew,
yay
or
nay
are
abstain.
I'm
gonna
have
to
understand
okay,
okay.
So
now,
then
the
vote
on
the
actual
recommendation
with
the
amended
change
to
90
days-
and
I
will
just
do
a
roll
call
vote
for
for
that.
Bisma,
yay
or
nay.
C
Okay,
zack,
yeah
or
nay,
nay,.
M
C
Okay-
and
I
am
a
yay
kiera,
yeah
yay-
thank
you
and
matthew,
yay
renee
or
abstain.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
okay.
So
that
fails,
and
thank
you
guys
for
that
and
thank
you
for
sort
of
this
format,
which
is
not
super
conducive
to
the
type
of
discussion
that
we
typically
have.
But
I
appreciate
that
so
moving
on
to
the
the
second
item:
hector:
could
you
scroll
down.
C
Thank
you,
so
this
one
I'll
start
off
by
actually
just
reading
it,
so
that
everyone
has
that
establish
local
government
authority
to
prevent
rent
gouging
for
multi-family
properties.
C
The
purpose
statement
is
arlington
is
becoming
increasingly
unaffordable
for
renters
tenants
throughout
the
country.
The
county
frequently
cite
rising
rent
costs
as
a
reason
they
struggle
to
remain
in
the
community,
while
expenses
for
landlords
typically
increase
year
to
year,
for
example,
rising
property
taxes
and
other
expenses.
C
The
lack
of
any
limits
on
rent,
gouging,
incentivizes,
speculative
behavior
that
forces
low
and
moderate
income
renters
out
of
the
county,
with
the
increased
economic
pressures
related
to
amazon's
headquarters
too,
and
an
influx
of
wealthy
residents.
Our
low
and
moderate
income
residents
are
increasingly
at
risk
as
a
minority
of
property
owners
inflate
rents
with
little
regard
for
the
housing
security
of
existing
tenants.
Similar
protections
are
currently
provided
for
residents
in
california,
oregon
new
york,
new
jersey,
maryland
and
dc.
C
The
recommendation
is
that
virginia
should
allow
local
governments
to
establish
a
process
for
setting
limits
on
rent
increases,
to
prevent
rent
gouging
each
year
to
ensure
that
the
law
targets
gouging
and
not
reasonable
rent
increases.
The
law
should
provide
a
floor
below
which
localities
cannot
limit
rent
increases,
for
example,
index
to
inflation.
C
Local
governments
would
establish
a
process
for
housing
providers
to
request
approval
to
raise
rents
above
the
anti-gouging
level,
set
by
the
local
government
to
account
for
extraordinary
repair
renovation
or
other
atypical
expenses.
Additionally,
local
governments
would
have
the
the
authority
to
limit
housing
providers
to
raising
rent
once
per
year.
C
So
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions
and
comments
from
members
of
the
commission
looks
like
chris
is
first.
E
C
Have
a
question:
oh
sorry,
you
popped
up
on
my
screen.
Okay,
other
questions
or
comments
from
commissioners.
I
Sure
I
have
a
few,
this
is
kristin.
I
I
think
that
start
with
the
easy
one.
There's
there's
just
no
reason
that
the
government,
the
state
government,
should
be
dictating
how
often
a
landlord
can
increase
their
rent.
The
virginia
landlord
tenant
law
says
based
on
your
lease.
I
Already
it
tells
you
you
can't
raise
the
rent
before
the
lease
term
is
up,
and
so,
if
a
resident
chooses
not
to
be
on
a
lease
term,
that
is
that
is
his
or
her
decision
and
therefore
they
must-
and
I
don't
like
to
use
this
word-
I
can't
think
of
a
better
one.
At
the
moment
you
know
suffer
the
consequences.
I
I
mean
that
was
a
conscious
decision
on
their
part,
not
to
sign
a
lease
that
that
protected
them
under
the
virginia
landlord
tenant
law
and
because
of
that
they
are
now
subject
to
the
virginia
landlord
tenant
law.
That
says
that
we
can
increase
your
rent,
so
there's
just
no
really
good
reason
to
put
anything
out
there.
That
is
already
well
well
established
under
the
virginia
land
or
tenant
law
and
is
not
contested
in
our
local
courts,
and
I
bisma
may
know
better
than
I
do.
I
C
Thank
you,
kristin
other
commissioners,
questions
or
comments.
F
You
know
I
agree
with
kristen
and
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research
on
this
beforehand
and
there
is
plenty
of
you
know,
documents
from
the
national
apartment
association
that
I
can
send
the
commission
as
well.
But
this
is
a
very,
very,
very
big
issue
and
frankly,
I
just
don't
even
think
that
the
commission
should
be
delving
into
this
kind
of
thing.
F
If
anything,
it's
more
of
a
state
issue,
and
you
know
one
of
the
big
impacts
and
there
are
a
lot
of
just
unintended
impacts
from
this
kind
of
legislation.
We
see
that
you
know
there's
a
huge
effect
on
new
apartment
construction.
We
saw
in
seattle,
they're
gonna
have
a
reduction
in
construction
of
over.
I
think
it's
like
17
000
units
per
year,
779
fewer
units
constructed
annually
in
denver
324
in
chicago
233
in
portland,
so
that
I
mean
that's
just
one
thing.
F
Another
huge
impact
is
the
decrease
in
maintenance
spending
if
it
fell
by
5.9
billion
in
seattle,
5.4
million
in
chicago
4.5
in
denver,
and
the
list
goes
on.
I
mean
these
are
just
examples,
but
I
mean
overall.
I
just
don't
think
that
this
is
the
role
of
a
commission
to
be
getting
into.
C
C
Okay,
hearing
none,
I
think
kristin
you
had
additional.
Oh
well,
david
just
put
his
hand
up
david.
Did
you
have
a
comment
or
question.
Q
Yes,
first
of
all,
I
had
a
question
about
the
text
where
it
says
to
ensure
that
the
law
targets
gouging
and
not
reasonable
end
rent
increases.
The
law
should
provide
a
floor
below
which
localities
cannot
limit
rent
increases.
Q
I
just
want
to
understand
that
means
that
the
the
government
body
that
that
sets
the
maximum
also
sets
a
minimum
rent
increase.
C
No,
so
the
way
that
that
was
meant
to
read
was
that
the
state
would
set
a
minimum.
That
localities
cannot
like.
For
instance,
if
the
state
says
you
cannot
limit
rent
increases
any
lower
than
the
rate
of
inflation
annually.
C
So
it's
encouraging
the
state
to
set
a
limit
on
the
local
authority's
ability
to
essentially
limit
rent
increases
too
much
so
localities
would
have
the
authority
to
set
the
ceiling,
but
the
state
would
set
the
floor
by
which
localities
are
not
allowed
to
you
know.
So,
if,
let's
say
a
locality
wanted
to
say,
I
think
rent
should
not
increase
any
more
than
one
percent.
This
would
kind
of
prevent
that
from
happening
where
the
state
would
set
what
they
think
is
a
sort
of
reasonable
floor.
C
So
whether
it's
you
know,
there's
lots
of
different
indexes
that
are
talked
about
for
this.
I
just
use
as
an
example
inflation,
but
it's
it's
essentially
to
prevent
a
local
government
from
sort
of
abusing
the
power
to
you
know
potentially
say
no
rent
increases
allowed
this
year.
So
it's
more
meant
to
be
a
check
on
the
power
of
the
local
governments
from
going
too
far
with
with
this
power.
C
Okay,
other
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
commission.
I
The
next
item
I
would
like
to
address
is
that
the
local
gov
governments
would
establish
a
process
for
housing
providers
to
request
approval
to
raise
rents
above
the
anti-gouging
levels.
Please
no
disrespect
to
rolda
hector
any
government
official
online.
Please
please
take
this
with
without
any
offense,
but
it
it
is
time-consuming,
bureaucratic
and
an
impossibility
to
to
a
lot
to
think
that
our
government
officials,
here
in
arlington
county,
will
be
able
to
to
expedite
a
process
like
that.
I
The
virginia
landlord
tenant
law
outlines
how
the
processes
in
which
we
have
to
raise
rents.
You
know
again
to
the
lease
term.
So
are
we
going
to
have
to
have
a
crystal
ball
and
know
eight
to
ten
months
in
advance
of
what
the
market
is
going
to
do,
so
that
we
can
go
to
the
county
and
say
that
that
two
and
a
half
percent
that
we
were
granted
to
for
a
rent
increase
doesn't
work?
I
We
don't
know
what's
happening
next
month.
You
know
we.
We
don't
always
guess
right
at
75
to
100
days
in
advance,
so
how
in
the
world,
could
we
put
ourselves
in
a
position
and
and
ask
the
the
local
governments
to
expedite
responses
to
our
request
in
a
timely
manner
that
we
could,
you
know,
continue
to
be
a
viable
operation,
continue
to
give
our
residents
as
much
advance
notice
about
our
rent
increases
as
possible
to
give
them
opportunities
to
seek
alternate
housing
or
reach
out
and
and
try
to
renegotiate
rents
and
lease
term.
I
I
I
can't
see
it
happening.
I
mean
the
the
the
bureaucracy
and
processes
are
so
so
long.
Anyone
who
has
been
on
the
board
of
gone
to
a
board
of
equalization
meeting
to
determine
to
for
your
tax
assessments
can
understand
that
these
processes
are
way
too
long
and
we
we
just
aren't
in
a
position,
and
I
don't
think
that
the
government
is
in
the
position
to
to
tackle
something
like
that
in
a
timely
manner,
and
nobody
has
a
crystal
ball.
C
Thank
you,
kristin
other
comments
or
questions
from
commissioners.
M
Hey
kellen,
this
is
elise.
I
was
also
just
going
to
speak
to
what
kristen
was
saying
about
not
knowing
what
the
next
month
or
what
the
next
60
75
90
days,
how
we
issue
our
renewals
each
and
every
month
we
are
sending
out
renewals
in
advance
and
how
we
gauge
those
is
the
market
is
the
property
condition
and
occupancy
lease
percentages,
so
something
like
getting
approval
from
the
government.
It
would
turn
into
a
monthly
conversation
or
a
monthly
application.
C
Thank
you,
elise
other
comments
or
questions
from
commissioners.
C
Okay,
any
comments
or
questions
from
staff
or
members
of
the
public.
C
I
do
not
see
any
okay
and
just
to
to
again
give
some
context
for
why
I
recommended
or
proposed
this
for
our
recommendation.
This
is
something
that
again
I've.
I've
seen
come
up
a
lot
with
conversations
with
affordable
housing
advocates
with
you
know,
renters
groups
in
arlington,
and
also
it's
come
up
in
conversations
with
members
of
the
county
board
and
other
leaders
as
something
that
is
looked
at
as
a
tool
to
not
not
restrict
the
sort
of
regular.
C
You
know
rent-setting
process
that
that
landlords
go
through
in
arlington
and
throughout
the
state,
but
to
prevent
essentially
bad
behavior
by
landlords
who
decide
to
take
advantage
of
amazon
second
headquarters
or
some
other.
You
know
situation
to
say,
like
I'm,
going
to
raise
rents
by
25
or
some
ridiculous
number
and
essentially
force
out
a
bunch
of
tenants,
because
we
live
in
a
very
hot
market
and
people
are,
are
generally
willing
to
pay.
C
We
have
a
low
vacancy
rate
in
arlington
and
I
think
there's
just
a
major
concern
that
if
the
process
is
solely
dictated
by
the
market,
that
that
will
work
really
well
for
high
income
people
in
this
community-
and
it
will
work,
it
will
work
very
poorly
for
low-income
people
and
middle-income
people
who
are
increasingly
finding
it
hard
to
live
here,
because
the
market
is
essentially
leaving
them
behind.
C
So
this
is
a
tool
that's
been
used
in
dc
and
the
other
states
that
are
mentioned
in
the
recommendation
to
try
and
address
this
issue.
To
ensure
that
you
know
landlords
are
continually
able
to.
C
You
know,
make
a
profit
on
their
properties,
but
that
there's
a
limit
to
you
know
how
much
rent
can
increase
from
year
to
year
so
that
you
don't
essentially
evict
people
or
are
not
evict
people
but
cause
people
to
lose
their
home
or
lose
access
to
their
community
because
they
just
can't
afford
to
live
there
anymore,
because
rents
are
increasing
faster
than
some
would
argue
that
they
should
and
obviously
there's
many
differences
of
opinion
on
this
issue.
C
But
this
is
one
that
is
continually
come
up
in
conversations
that
I've
had
with.
As
I
said,
affordable
housing
advocates
and
antenna
advocacy,
advocacy
groups,
and
so
I
I
felt
that
it
was
important
to
have
this
conversation
and
put
forward
the
recommendation
before
the
commission
and
yeah.
So
that
was
that's
sort
of
the
context.
Any
other
questions
or
comments
before
we
move
to
a
vote.
G
G
Exorbitant
rent
raises
it
definitely
needs
to
be
addressed,
especially
since
property
owners
hold
so
much
more
power.
They
have
so
much
more
time
to
be
working
with
the
government
and
they
have
plenty
of
resources
from
which
to
address
this
issue
right,
so
they
they
should.
The
government
should
have
that,
whereas
working-class,
low-income
people
do
not
have
that
time
to
constantly
work
to
address
this
issue.
So
I
don't
know
why.
Like
ditmar,
I
mean
kristen
clegg
right.
G
Has
the
author
has
the
right
to
speak
on
this,
especially
since
so
many
of
our
residents
are
actually
receiving
100
rent
raises
no
benefits.
Things
are
closing
down
yet
they're
still
being
charged.
100
rent
raises
constantly
every
single
year,
so
they're
being
pushed
out.
So
I
do
think
it's
absolutely
ridiculous.
C
Michelle
thank
you
for
your
comment.
I
do
just
want
to
remind
all
participants,
though,
that
you
know
every
member
of
this
commission
does
have
the
right
to
speak
on
this
and
it
was
appointed
by
the
county
board.
Well,
we
may
not
all
agree
on
the
opinions
expressed
by
each
person.
You
know
we
try
to
to
not
attack
any
individual
member,
even
if
we
disagree
with
them,
but
I
certainly
appreciate
your
stance,
michelle
and
your
impassioned.
C
You
know
argument
on
this
issue
and
and
thank
you
for
being
with
us
today,
but
at
the
same
time
I
also
appreciate
christian's
chris
kristen's
perspective
that
she
brings
to
it
as
well.
So
I
I
do
want
to
make
that
clear.
Do
we
have
any
other
comments
or
questions.
A
C
Okay
yep.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
topic
up.
I
do
have
to
ask
that
we
have
more
discussion,
conversation
and
reviewing
data
around
this.
I
think
to
make
a
qualified
and
educated
decision,
we
really
need
to
review
data.
You
know
that
means
what
have
been
the
average
rent
increases
on
a
monthly
basis
year
over
year,
for
let's
say
the
last
five
to
ten
years
with
kovid
right
now.
We
know
that
many
majority,
I
would
even
say
of
landlords-
are
not
doing
any
rent
increases.
P
Now,
of
course,
there
are
some
of
those
outliers
there,
but
I
really
believe
that
to
make
more
of
an
educated
decision,
we
need
to
look
at
the
data.
You
know
it's.
I
love
hearing
personal
stories
of
residents
that
are
struggling
or
that
have
seen
dramatic
rent
increases,
but
I
really
think
the
numbers
should
speak
for
themselves
and
we
should
do
our
due
diligence
to
get
that
kind
of
data
again
over
the
last
five
to
ten
years
to
see
what
the
average
rent
increase
is
on
a
monthly
and
annual
basis.
Thank
you.
Q
I
did
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
raise
my
concerns
about
this,
particularly
because
I
think
that
in
the
long
run,
this
can
actually
have
a
lot
more
negative
effects
on
the
people
that,
in
the
low
and
middle
income,
renters
that
we're
trying
to
protect
by
by
instituting
this
sort
of
policy,
especially
in
the
event
that
a
rent
control
were
ever
removed,
which
seems
like
a
distinct
possibility
and
in
those
cases,
typically,
what
you
see
is
a
massive
rent
increase
that
would
have
been
even
larger
than
it
would
have
been.
Q
Had
you
just
left
things
to
the
market
in
the
first
place
and
I've,
you
know,
read
a
number
of
studies
from
that
were
aggregated
by
the
brookings
institution
on
this,
and
I
I
just
don't
I'm
feeling
unsure
that
this
would
be
like
a
long-term
positive
thing,
even
if
it
might
be
beneficial
in
the
short
term.
C
Thank
you,
david
any
other
comments
or
questions
on
this
jennifer.
You
raised
your
hand.
N
I
did
hi
everybody
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
the
county
is
actually
starting
to
publish
quarterly
data
on
rent
information
in
the
county
and
if
it's
okay,
I'm
happy
to
share
it
in
the
chat,
it's
it's
published
on
the
house
and
the
county
website.
So
I'm
going
to
try
to
share
that.
If
that's
okay
in
response
to
the
the
thought
that
they're,
we
should
be
sharing
data,
so
I'm
gonna
upload
that
if
that's
helpful.
N
C
Jennifer,
and-
and
I
do
want
to
add
too
that
the
way
that
I
crafted
the
language-
it
was
very
much
on
purpose
to
target
rent
gouging,
not
just
rent
increases.
So
this
is
not
a
policy,
because
we
believe
that
overall
rents
are
increasing
too
much
in
arlington
county,
although
that
may
be
true,
or
that
may
be
an
argument
that
that
people
make.
What
this
is
really
designed
to
do
is
prevent
bad
actors
from
raising
it
in
sort
of
exorbitant
ways.
C
So
it's
not
meant
to
be,
and
I
think
that's
where
the
data
so
rolda
had
provided
us
with
a
a
rental
increase
report.
I
think
in
the
last
couple
months
that
showed-
and
I
I
don't
want
to
throw
out
a
number
that
is-
is
incorrect,
although
it
might
actually
be
in
the
chat
that
the
overall
and
the
average
rents
may
not
be
they're,
not
really
the
target
of
this.
This
is
really
meant
to
target
landlords
who
are
not
just
looking
at.
C
You
know
their
costs
and
saying:
okay,
like
I'm,
trying
to
maintain
a
respectable
profit
margin
that
really
it's
meant
to
come
down
on
speculative
behavior
and
people
are
just
looking
to.
You
know,
make
as
much
money
as
they
can
and
don't
care
who
it
hurts
in
the
process.
So
it's
it's.
This
is
not,
I
think,
aimed
at
the
majority
of
landlords
or
property
managers
or
owners.
C
This
is
really
aimed
at
the
the
few
that
are
sort
of
making
things
look
bad
for
for
everyone
else,
so
just
to
provide
that
clarification
that
that
that's
the
intent
behind
this
that
it's
specifically
for
rent
gouging,
not
for
just
limiting
overall
rent
increases,
any
other
comments
or
questions
from
commissioners
or
members
of
the
public.
I
Yes,
it's
christian
again
that
you
know
I've
been
on
the
commission
for
several
years
now.
I've
gotten
to
know
many
of
the
landlord.
I
14
years
on
the
property
management
side
with
ditmar
and
other
communities
and
the
the
market
corrects
itself
very
regularly,
and
I
think
that
the
anecdotes
that
patrick
referenced
you
know
I
would
love
to
hear
those.
I
would
love
to
hear
these
stories
of
rent
gouging.
I've
sat
on
many
many
commission
meetings.
I
I've
never
been
present
or
read
in
a
minutes
where
a
tenant
has
come
to
us
and
said
that
they've
had
rent
gouging
I've
been
present
when
people
from
legal
aid
services
have
been
there
from
bugatta
who've,
been
there
other
tenant
advocacy
company
organizations,
I've
never
heard
of
rent
gouging,
and
I
think
that
that
that
is
a
fact
that
we
could
go
back
and
look
through
our
meeting
minutes
and
see
that.
So
I
think
we
do
need
this
data
that
patrick,
is
referring
to
to
complement
these
anecdotes
that
you
are
referring
to
before.
I
C
Thank
you,
kristen
any
other
thoughts
or
comments
on
this
item.
F
This
is
bisma.
I
I
kind
of
want
to
just
add
that
maybe
when
we
come
up
with
these
priorities,
we
should
kind
of
collaboratively
discuss
what
those
priorities
should
be
before
voting
on
them.
Just
because
I
mean
it
seems
like
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
more
research
on
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
up.
There.
C
Thank
you
bisma.
I
do
want
to
add
that
I
did
send
these
out
two
weeks
ago
and
I
only
received
comments
from
kristin
so
well,
I
agree.
Collaboration
is
great.
I
I
would
say
in
general,
I
didn't
receive
any
collaboration
so
and
that's
perfectly
fine.
People
do
not
have
to
provide
comments
in
advance,
but
that
is
something
that
I'm
very
open
to.
I
did
meet
with.
C
You
know,
patrick
and
shared
these
with
him
in
advance
as
well
to
to
get
his
feedback
from
the
nvaa,
and
I
shared
these
with
other
members
of
the
community
to
get
feedback,
so
I
have
tried
to
do
that
and
be
as
collaborative
as
I
as
I
could,
but
that
also
requires
people
to
provide
that
feedback
and
provide
that
comments,
and
if
people
have
other
priorities
that
they
want
to
propose
as
well
they're,
you
know
you're
welcome
to
make
a
motion
to
add
additional
priorities,
or
you
know
at
any
point,
people
could
have
provided
those
as
well.
C
So
I
appreciate
your
comment
and
I
agree
with
you
that
you
know
a
collaboration
is
really
important,
as
is
research,
and
I
believe
that
I've
made
good
attempts
to
not
only
research
but
also
collaborate
with
the
commission
as
well
as
members
of
the
community,
both
landlords,
as
well
as
tenants
and
and
other
housing
advocates.
So
point
is
well
taken
any
other
comments
or
questions
from
anyone
before
we
move
to
voting.
C
C
Okay,
chris
did
you
have
a
specific
comment
or
question
on
it
or
you
just
wanted
to
see
it
on
the
screen
just
wanted
to
see
it
on
the
screen.
Thank
you
cool.
Thank
you.
So
anything
else
before
we
move
on
to
voting
on
this.
C
Item
okay,
so
we
will
do
a
roll
call
vote
so
first
bisma,
yay
or
nay.
E
C
Thank
you,
zach
yay,
renee,
kristen
yeah,
your
name.
I
C
Sorry,
just
to
clarify
you
said
yay,
yes,
correct!
Okay,
thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
alicia,
nay,.
M
C
Thank
you.
I
am
a
yay
as
well.
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
matthew,
yay,
nay
or
abstain.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
So
it
fails.
Thank
you
guys
for
that
conversation
and
discussion.
So
the
last
one
on
here
is
actually
one
that
we
approved
last
year.
I
just
added.
C
I
added
to
the
first
sentence
to
reference
the
the
program
that
the
governor
actually
created
for
rent
and
mortgage
relief,
which
sort
of
addresses
some
of
our
concern
last
year.
But
I'll
read
this
out
loud.
C
So
establishment
of
the
virginia
rental
assistance
program
in
2016
under
the
purpose
of
the
center
on
budget
and
policy
priorities
found
that
for
every
assisted
household
in
virginia
twice
as
many
low-income
households
are
homeless
or
pay
more
than
half
their
income
for
rent
and
do
not
receive
any
federal
rental
assistance
due
to
limited
funding.
C
While
103
000
households
in
the
state
receive
rental
assistance
over
250
000
households
pay
more
than
half
their
income
in
rent
and
receive
no
assistance.
Renters
in
arlington
and
elsewhere
in
the
state
could
benefit
from
a
statewide
rental
assistance
program.
Recommendation
virginia
should
make
the
covid
19
rent
and
mortgage
relief
program
permanent
or
create
a
statewide
rental
assistance
program
to
ensure
that
rent
burden
and
severely
rent-burdened
residents
receive
support
to
afford
decent
housing
funding
through
the
state
program
should
be
available
for
either
tenant-based
vouchers
or
project-based
rental
assistance.
C
With
that,
I
open
it
up
to
questions
or
comments
from
commissioners.
It
looks
like
david,
you
raised
your
hand.
Q
E
Q
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
feedback,
I'm
very
in
favor
of
this
particular
program.
I
think,
especially
with
the
you
know,
the
pressures
of
covid.
This
is
a
high
priority
thing,
and
this
is
exactly
the
type
of
immediate
impact
that
kristin
and
bisma
said
that
we
can
be
trying
to
make
earlier
on
when
we
were
discussing
the
first
two
priorities,
and
I
think
that
with
the
governor,
having
already
you
know,
started
the
program
that
that
continuing
it
and
making
it
permanent
would
be
a
fantastic
idea
for
for
the
entire
state.
C
Thank
you,
david
other
comments
or
questions
from
members
of
the
commission.
I
I
However,
I
would
prefer
to
remove
the
language
of
how
it
would
be
done
by
meaning
the
tenant-based,
voucher
or
project-based
rental
assistant.
I
would
prefer
it
to
simply
say:
funding
through
the
state
program
should
be
available
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
with
the
changes
to
the
source
of
income
and
the
having
to
start
with
all
properties
have
to
accept
the
housing
choice,
voucher
and
knowing
how
problematic
that
is.
I
I
just
don't
think
we're
in
a
position
really
to
want
to
add
another
voucher
system.
I
I
think
we
need
to
see
how
that
housing
choice.
Voucher
works,
how
the
state
reacts,
how
our
landlords
react,
how
our
residents
react
before
we
put
another
voucher
program
in
place,
so
I
would
vote
in
favor
if
we
could
eliminate
the
recommendation
on
how
it
would
be
done.
C
Thank
you
kristin,
and
to
make
it
simple
I'd
like
to
recommend
that
we
just
drop
the
last
sentence
then,
and
so
it's
just
the
recommendation,
would
just
be
the
first
sentence.
C
Okay-
and
I
guess
we'll
do
a
quick
roll
call
vote
on
that,
one
bisma,
yay
or
nay,.
B
C
Thank
you
exactly
your
name:
yeah
christina
yay
chris
yeah.
Today,
david
yeah
alicia,
your
name.
B
C
I
am
a
yay
as
well
kira
yaernae,
yeah
and
matthew
yanaya
arab
sane.
I
have
to
abstain.
Thank
you.
Okay.
So
now
we
dropped
the
last
sentence,
but
additional
questions
or
comments
on
the
recommendation
as
it
now
stands,.
C
Okay,
so
I
don't
think
we
have
any
other
comments
or
questions
on
this
one.
Please
interrupt
me
if,
if
we
do
okay,
so
we
will
move
to
a
roll
call,
roll
call
vote
so
bismarck.
C
You
I
am
oscar
yay,
kieran
yeah,.
C
Thank
you,
okay,
thank
you
all
for
that,
so
I
will
draft
a
letter
that
looks
pretty
much
like
the
letter
last
year
and
will
include
the
just
the
third
recommendation
to
the
county
board,
with
the
last
sentence
dropped
from
it.
C
Everyone's
patience,
these
always
take
longer,
oh,
go
ahead.
D
Hello,
so
the
time
is
the
time
is
nine
o'clock
and
there
are
still
two
items.
I'm
wondering
at
this
point.
I
think
we
need
to
respect
people's
time
if
we
can
give
a
10
or
15
minute
limitation
on
the
next
item
and
perhaps
make
a
decision
on
the
chairs
report.
If
that
can
be
done
at
another
time,
because
it
is
nothing
so
we
all
like
to
go
past
our.
C
Yeah
I
I
would
only
like
to
take
like
a
minute
for
the
for
the
chairs
report,
because
I
already
sent
it
out
in
advance
to
people,
so
I
just
yeah,
I
think,
nicole,
I
believe,
are
you
providing
the
presentation
for
the
next.
R
I
was
scheduled
for
the
first
hour,
so
I
am
just
going
to
focus
on.
It
seems
rental
assistance,
what's
available,
resources
for
tenants
right
now
and
I'll
go
through
what
I
can
you'll
have
access
to
the
powerpoint
deck
for
all
commission
members
and
just
follow
up
with
any
questions
to
see
phd
or
dhs.
C
R
Okay,
hello,
everyone
good
evening,
nicole
harmon,
I'm
with
the
department
of
human
services,
the
housing
assistance
bureau,
who's
actually
asked
to
present
where
the
department
of
human
services
is
with
our
emergency
assistance
prevention
eviction
funding.
These
pots
of
funds
are
actually
managed
out
of
our
community
assistance
bureau
and
I
will
apologize
in
advance.
The
team
is
incredibly
swamped
with
requests.
R
We
are
still
trying
to
get
through
our
full
year
data
analysis.
To
give
you
actual
so
many
of
you
who've
either
joined
the
housing
commission
meeting
earlier
this
month,
I'm
going
to
present
the
same
data
as
I
have
it
available
to
me.
So
if
we
take
a
look
at
the
first
three
quarters
of
fy20,
which
I'll
call
the
pre-covet
era,
we've
provided
eviction
prevention,
financial
support
to
564,
unique
households.
R
R
So
since
covid
era,
which
would
begin
our
markers
around
march
13th
through
data
as
good
as
june
12th.
Here
we
have
fielded
over
2748
total
requests
for
assistance.
This
is
we've
nearly
doubled,
if
not
exceeded
the
number
of
prevention
payments
that
we've
issued
through
our
entire
fiscal
year,
19
in
less
than
a
quarter
of
loan.
So
when
I
think
there
is
a
question
in
terms
of
getting
through
to
the
call
center
reaching
out
to
dhs
for
assistance,
you
could
see
that
our
volume
has
grown
tremendously.
R
We
are
certainly
processing
and
helping
households
as
quick
as
we
can,
but
there
is
certainly
a
sort
of
a
delay
in
terms
of
coordinating
with
households
getting
information
so
that
we
can
then
pair
up
the
assistance
that's
needed
with
the
available
resource
our
projection.
At
least
this
is
nicole's
harmon's
projection
for
this
covet
error
that
will
have
assisted
between
1200
to
15,
unique
household
to
just
in
a
quarter
of
a
loan.
R
Thus
far,
our
data
tells
us
the
average
assistance
amount
per
household
is
around
1
275
dollars
compared
to
last
year.
Average
request
is
around
679
dollars
per
household,
so
that
is
an
increase
of
88.
R
We
work
in
partnership
with
thrive
as
our
nonprofit
sort
of
fiduciary
agent.
We
have
many
streams
of
funding
state,
local
and
we'll
touch
a
little
bit
about
the
federal
funding
that
is
being
provided
for
financial
assistance
eviction
prevention
needs
thus
far.
We
know
from
thrive
that
53
of
all
of
our
rental
assistance
requests
have
gone
to
households
within
the
22204
zip
code.
R
100
percent
of
our
households
are
considered
low
income
or
living
below
the
poverty
level.
At
the
time
of
this
data
snapshot,
we
had
provided
over
1.48
million
dollars
in
rental
assistance
in
this
quarter.
I
believe
in
total
we've
through
the
year
we're
over
three
million
dollars
that
has
been
allocated
in
this
in
this.
Through
these
efforts
and
more
than
220
landlords
have
received
checks
from
arlington
thrive.
R
Okay,
so
over
between
local
funding
that
was
allocated
to
thrive
once
cova
began
in
total
they've
received
over
1.5
million
for
emergency
assistance,
eviction
prevention
funding
for
those
in
need
in
terms
of
the
federal
assistance
and
jennifer
can
jump
in.
If
I
screw
any
of
this
up,
because
a
cphd
is
certainly
at
the
helm,
they
put
forth
a
proposal,
two
approaches
for
how
to
distribute
federal
funds
that
were
released
through
the
carers
act.
R
For
the
first
round,
the
county
received
approximately
a
million
dollars
in
federal,
cdbg
and
csbg
funds,
in
terms
of
where
those
funds
would
be
driven
to.
There
was
a
community
stakeholder
survey
that
was
issued
where
feedback
is
essentially
said.
These
funds
should
go
to
the
most
immediate
urgent
needs,
households
that
are
needing
it
and
deserving
of
the
most
and
so
based
on
that
feedback.
R
This
1
million
was
allocated
for
emergency
rental
assistance,
which
includes
helping
households
with
anything
from
rent
utilities
and
internet.
These
funds
were
given
were
allocated
to
thrive
again
as
a
fiduciary
agent,
who
is
basically
administering
these
funds
on
behalf
of
arlington
county
now.
For
the
second
round
of
this
federal
funding
at
cdbg,
there
will
be
an
additional
competitive
process
that
should
come
out
later
this
summer.
I
believe.
N
R
Oh,
it's
helped
now
through
a
competitive,
noble
process,
and
do
you
still
anticipate
that
that's
gonna
be
roughly
four
to
seven
hundred
thousand
available?
Yes
for
competition?
Yes
great,
I
didn't
muck
this
up
too
bad
awesome.
Additional
funding.
A
little
bit
of
this
was
already
discussed
about
the
virginia
rent
and
mortgage
relief
program.
R
As
you
all
know,
this
is
state
money
also
provided
through
the
cares
at
funding.
There
is
50
million
dollars
sent
to
the
state
level
for
this
corona
aid
virus
relief.
This
funding
was
made
available
to
continue
of
care
agency
lead
agency
jurisdictions
throughout
the
commonwealth.
R
The
lead
agency
actually
sits
in
my
shop,
so
this
is
definitely
an
opportunity.
We
were
grateful
to
raise
our
hand
and
say
we
we
would
love
to
take
on
these
funds
to
help
service
arlingtonians
in
the
community.
R
These
funds
are
designated
to
support
and
ensure
that
there's
continued
housing,
stability
across
the
commonwealth,
stabilize
housing
and
efforts
to
help
households
maintain
their
housing
in
which
is
an
interest
of
public
health.
Given
the
pandemic
and
provide
financial
assistance
on
behalf
of
households
who
are
experiencing
housing
and
stability
due
to
the
pandemic,
so
the
eligibility
requirements
for
this
program
is
is
similar
to
the
eviction
prevention
eligibility
requirements
that
we
typically
have
been
doing
at
dhs.
R
So
for
anyone,
who's
been
laid
off,
who's
been
placed
in
a
place
of
employ
place
of
employment,
has
closed
anyone.
Who's
experienced
a
reduction
in
work
hours,
anyone
that
must
stay
home
to
care
for
children
due
to
closure
of
their
daycare
or
schools,
and
anyone
who
is
unwilling
or
unable
to
participate
in
their
previous
employment
due
to
their
high
risk
of
severe
illness
for
for
for
covid,
is
eligible
for
this
program.
This
program
also
is
available
to
those
with
and
without
legal
presence.
R
So
this
is
definitely
a
benefit
for
us
to
add
to
our
additional
pot
of
resources
we
have
at
the
department
of
human
services.
Household
income
must
be
at
or
below
80
of
ami,
which
would
be
based
on
the
current
month.
Income,
that's
reported
so
the
first
initial
stallman
for
the
jurisdictions
that
are
partaking
in
this
program
was
450
000,
which
we've
received,
which
we're
spending
once
that
450
000
is
depleted.
R
We're
able
to
go
back
to
the
state
and
draw
additional
funds
so
we're
hoping
that
a
part
of
the
remaining
balance
of
the
50
million
arlington
will
will
take
a
continued
bite
out
of
through
the
end
of
this
calendar
year
next
slide
in
terms
of
our
rental
assistance
programs,
I'm
just
going
to
focus
on
for
tenants
that
may
be
on
this
call.
Housing
grants
is
still
locally
funded,
a
rental
assistance
program
that
we're
still
accepting
applications
daily.
R
It's
an
open
program
also
a
note
for
the
landlords
who
are
on
the
phone
our
mars
increased.
As
of
july
1st,
we
are
doing
an
annual
index
to
60
of
the
committed
affordable
rates
rents,
which
cphd
also
publishes
so
there's
increase
in
sort
of
our
maximum
allowable
rents
that
we
were
post,
that
we've
made
adjustments
for
housing
grants,
for
there
are
three
categories:
you
must
be
a
working
family
with
minor
children,
you're
either
a
senior
65
or
older
or
you're
totally
permanently
disabled
or
you're
active
in
a
dhs
program.
R
I
just
want
to
specifically
reference
the
working
family
category
and
one
of
the
changes
that
we've
made
due
to
the
pandemic.
Due
to
unemployment
or
underemployment,
we
will
not
be
disrupting
anyone's
benefits,
who
are
unable
to
meet
the
minimum
work
hour
requirements.
So
more
information
about
housing
grants
is
on
our
website.
My
team
has
been
fabulous
in
terms
of
putting
together,
faqs
related
to
just
various
questions
around
what
happens.
If
I
have
moved
my
job
or
you
know
the
six
hundred
dollars
does
that
get
counted
in
unemployment
insurance?
R
Is
that
good
counted?
All
of
that
information
is
on
our
website.
So
definitely
either
refer
your
tenants
to
our
webpage
to
apply
and
if
their
attendance
on
a
call,
definitely
check
out
our
information
as
well
as
our
application.
That's
online
as
well,
that
can
be
submitted
to
us
housing
choice,
voucher
program,
also
under
our
umbrella,
at
dhs
one
of
the
most
notable
things
here,
because
this
is
a
federally
funded
program
for
households
that
may
have
experienced
a
disruption
in
their
income.
R
The
best
advice
is
what
we've
been
saying
to.
Our
participants
is
contact
us
and
majority
of
them
have
whenever
they
may
be
challenged
and
paying
their
tenant
contribution
towards
the
rent,
with
the
federal
funding,
we're
able
to
right
size
and
make
some
adjustments
in
in
terms
of
raising
the
subsidy
the
cover
the
difference.
So
this
is
something
that
the
the
federal
government,
through
our
budget
allocation
will
absorb.
They
just
need
to
contact
their
housing
specialists
at
that
time.
R
Last
week
we
opened
a
waiting
list
in
arlington
county
for
the
first
time
in
eight
years.
It
was
a
really
quick
process
which
really
quick
announcement
open
closed
for
12
hours.
We
received
some
additional
mainstream
non-elderly
disabled
vouchers,
which
we
targeted
for
homeless
and
at
risk
of
homeless
individuals,
and
so
we
have
about
50
vouchers
that
we
set
out
to
solicit
new
new
intakes
for
through
this
waiting
list.
We
have
a
new
lottery
process.
All
that
information
went
out.
It
was
pretty
successful,
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
over
600
applications.
R
We've
received
we're
only
a
lot
of
rising
200
in
order
to
fill
those
50,
but
we
are
committed
to
opening
up
the
larger
waiting
list
for
our
housing
choice:
voucher
program,
if
not
the
end
of
this
calendar
year,
certainly
we
will
be
doing
so
in
2021
calendar
year,
permanent,
supportive
housing,
one
big
success
that
we've
been
able,
in
addition
to
receiving
some
expansion
funding,
to
provide
flexibility
for
those
that
have
been
on
our
waiting
lists.
R
Most
importantly,
we
received
490
000
from
the
state
department
of
behavioral
health
services
so
that
we
can
aid
an
additional
13
individuals
in
a
system
through
rental
assistance.
So
we
are
happy
to
be
adding
additional
funding,
as
well
as
capacity
to
our
permanent
supportive
housing
program.
Moving
forward.
R
I
I
won't
read
this:
this
is
just
sort
of
other
housing
and
safety
net
support
that
both
dhs
has
been
doing
in
coordination
with
our
our
fellow
colleagues
at
cphd.
This
will
be
in
the
materials
for
you
all
and
your
your
viewing
pleasure
I'll
turn
it
over
to
jennifer.
N
I
just
I
wanted
to
quickly
talk
about
some
programs
on
the
cphd
side
and
then
I
was
going
to
quickly
talk
about
some
of
the
coordination
efforts
that
are
happening
so
I'll
go
quickly
and
again
you
can
come
back
and
look
at
the
slides.
As
you
know,
the
county
is
also
a
lender.
N
So
one
of
the
programs
that
we
implemented
was
for
single-family
owners
who
either
have
home
ownership,
assistance
or
home
improvement
assistance.
We
are
forgiving
their
payments
through
the
end
of
the
year.
So
that's
about
100,
total
loans
for
homeowners,
there's
also
a
multi-family
limited
loan
payment
waiver,
so
multi-family
county
borrowers
who
have
not
submitted
their
loan
repayments
as
of
april,
were
able
to
request
a
limited
loan
payment
waiver
to
address
emergency
needs.
N
In
return
for
that,
multi-family
owners
will
not
be
evicting
tenants
for
covet-related
non-payment
of
rent
through
december
31st,
2020.,
nine
borrowers.
Nine
properties
participated
in
this
ahc
properties,
app
properties
and
v
point,
I
believe
so,
there's
a
list
on
our
website,
of
which
properties.
Those
are
we've
also
been
more
as
you've
heard
from
nicole
there's
a
lot
going
on
to
help
keep
people
in
in
housing.
N
There's
been
a
lot
of
effort
around
outreach,
letting
people
know
because
you
know
we
can
have
all
the
programs
in
the
world
and
if
people
don't
know
about
them,
then
they're
not
necessarily
able
to
access
them.
So
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
go
through
some.
Some
of
the
efforts
we've
been
doing.
There
was
a
county
board
letter
that
went
out
to
arlington
multi-family
properties
in
march.
I
think
that
asked
landlords
you
know
voluntarily
to
please
consider
waiving
late
fees
waving
rents
doing
what
they
can
to
keep
people
in
homes.
They
can.
N
We've
also
launched
an
information
campaign.
You
may
have
seen
some
of
the
public
service
announcements
that
were
produced
and
I
want
to
say
five
or
six
languages,
letting
people
know
how
they
could
come
in
and
get
rent
or
food
food
assistance.
Whatever
kind
of
emergency
assistance
is
needed.
There
was
a
the
flyer
that
you
see
on
the
right
slide.
The
resources
for
renter
slide
was
produced
in
I
think
april
and
includes
this
the
phone
numbers
that
you
see
and
some
faqs
about
rights.
N
You
know
tenant
rights
and
responsibilities,
that's
in
english
and
spanish,
and
that
was
sent
out
via
to
email
and
hand
delivered
to
all
multi-family
properties.
It
went
out
via
a
fact
distribution
bags.
There
were
signs
put
up
in
grocery
stores
and
in
critical
neighborhoods,
so
that
was
pushed
out
pretty
extensively.
N
The
flyer
you
see
on
the
left,
which
you
can't
actually
really
see,
is
kind
of
a
card
that
is
going
out
and
I
think
six
different
languages
again
telling
people
how
they
could
access
resources,
letting
them
know
that
you
know
that
reaching
out
will
not
impact
their
immigration
status
so
hopefully
pushing
this
out
via
the
public
schools
through
afaq
through
a
lot
of
our
channels
as
well.
N
N
I
think
just
in
our
shop
we've
done,
I
want
to
say
12
virtual
workshops
in
the
last
since
april,
reaching
out
to
apartment
specific
apartments
to
tenant
groups
to
landlord
groups.
We've
partnered.
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
bugatta:
we've
done
some
with
them:
legal
services
of
northern
virginia
northern
virginia
apartment
association.
N
So
last
thing
you
know
we
have
all.
If
you
read
the
news
at
all,
you
know
that
evictions
are
are
likely
to
be
a
tremendous
issue,
starting
in
the
fall
most
federal
and
state
eviction
protections
either
have
expired
or
going
to
expire.
Soon.
You
know,
unemployment
insurance
is
about
to
expire
unless
that's
extended,
as
we
know,
more
than
12
000
households
in
virginia
currently
have
unlawful
detainers
and
that's
with
courts
having
been
held
up.
So
those
are
all
kind
of
waiting
to
be
heard
and
arlington
courts
begin
hearing
eviction
cases
july
30th.
N
So
there's
we're
expecting,
as
I
said,
a
wave
of
evictions,
a
wave
of
people
who
are
unable
to
pay
their
rent.
So
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
in
addition
to
the
financial
assistance
that
nicole
talked
about
dhs,
is
partnering
with
the
courts
and
with
service
providers
on
service
coordination.
You
know
first
off
with
courts
starting
tomorrow,
making
sure
that
every
person
who
goes
through
the
court
system
has
access
to
resources,
so
dhs
will
be
at
the
court.
Arlington
thrive
will
be
there.
N
N
In
fact,
ahc
just
announced
that
they
will
not
be
charging
late
fees
through
the
end
of
december
for
some
of
their
properties,
northern
virginia
apartment
association.
I
don't
know
if
patrick's
still
on
the
call,
but
has
really
been
out
in
the
community
talking
about
you
know
how
landlords
want
to
help
partner
in
trying
to
think
of
solutions.
N
Legal
services
of
northern
virginia
is
convening
a
regional
group
of
all
the
northern
virginia
jurisdictions,
a
lot
of
the
service
providers
to
think
about
ways
that
we
can
coordinate,
services,
share
information
and
advocate
for
additional
resources.
So
it's
it's
a
huge
problem.
There's
a
lot
of
resources
and
efforts
going
into
it.
So,
to
the
extent
you
all
can
share
information,
let
people
know
how
to
access
resources.
If
you
have
ideas
for
ways
that
we
can
push
out
information,
please
do
let
us
know,
and
that
concludes
my
part.
C
Thank
you
both
nicole
and
jennifer.
That
was
very
helpful
and
very
informative,
and
I
very
much
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
both
dhs
and
cphd
have
done
since
codewood
started
to
ensure
that
tenants
and
landlords
know
what
programs
and
resources
are
available
during
this,
this
time
of
health,
as
well
as
economic
crisis.
Unfortunately,
I
think
we're
kind
of
way
over
time,
so
I
don't
know
that
we
have
time
for
questions.
C
So
what
I
would
like
to
ask
is
that
if
members
of
the
commission
do
have
any
questions,
please
send
those
to
rolda
and
if
you
would
copy
myself
and
then
hopefully,
staff
can
can
roll.
I
can.
C
Those
with
the
staff
who
have
those
answers
and
get
those
back
out
to
the
commission
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
make
sure
any
questions
or
information
requests
that
we
have
are
addressed
and
then
I'm
sure
at
our
meeting
in
september,
we'll
have
a
lot
more
to
discuss
in
this
area.
Once
we
see
what
happens
between
now
and
september,
with
evictions
and
the
work
that
is
being
done
in
between.
Regarding
the
the
chairs
report,
you
guys
have
it
in
front
of
you.
C
I
sent
out
both
the
timeline
as
well
as
the
the
short
one
page
report.
The
main
reason
that
I
put
together
the
timeline
was:
I
wanted
people
to
be
aware
that
we've
accomplished
a
lot
this
year,
both
as
a
commission
and
as
individual
members.
C
I
think
people
have
been
busy
in
the
community
trying
to
advocate
for
for
tenants
and
for
vulnerable
residents
during
this
crisis,
and
I
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
many
of
you
have
put
into
that
as
well
as
our
staff
members
and
regarding
the
report,
you
know
happy
to
discuss
in
more
detail
in
september.
C
Essentially
there
were,
you
know
large
protests
happening
in
arlington
with
renters
concerned
that
they
can't
pay
their
rent
and
to
me,
that's
that's
a
big
issue
that
we
should
be
engaging
with
dialogue,
and
it
did
not
appear
that
the
county
had
reached
out
to
them,
and
that
was
not
my
understanding
from
talking
with
those
groups.
So
I
tried
to
hear
their
concerns
and
issues,
and
I
tried
to
consolidate
those
into
that
brief.
C
So
I
would
very
much
encourage
staff
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
continue
the
dialogue
with
the
different
groups
that
were
referenced
in
it
and
I'm
happy
to
help
facilitate
that
or
be
part
of
those
conversations
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
address
some
of
these
barriers
to
either
accessing
the
programs
that
do
exist,
or
you
know
creative
solutions
to
addressing
some
of
the
other
issues
that
tenants
have
other
than
just
accessing
existing
programs.
So,
unfortunately
I
don't
think
we
have
time
to
get
into
that.
C
But
I
would
very
much
encourage
staff
to
take
a
look
at
that
happy
to
to
have
discussions
about
that
and,
as
I
said,
happy
to
help
facilitate
discussions
with
these
tenant
organizations
who
are
working
with
tenants
who
are
struggling
and
feeling
a
lot
of
anxiety
and
a
lot
of
just
major
concern
during
this
time
about,
what's
going
to
happen
to
them
and
their
families.
C
So
with
that,
I
think
we
can
close
the
meeting.
I
thank
everyone
for
your
time.
I
apologize
that
we
went
over.
I
think
we
got
through
a
lot
of
very
heavy
topics
and
there's
certainly
a
lot
more
to
discuss,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
our
next
meeting
in
september.
D
I
believe
michelle
chan
had
a
comment
to
make.
G
Evening,
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
give
a
couple
of
additional
comments
to
the
arlington
county
rental
assistants.
You
guys
have
been
doing
a
really
good
job.
We've
been
helping,
people
apply,
making
sure
we
pass
on
to
our
asian
membership.
Anyhow,
there
are
a
couple
things
that
are
issues
that
we
did
want
to
bring
up.
There
have
been
pretty
pretty
long
delays
in
terms
of
like
people
getting
a
response
back,
so
the
what
the
the
seven
to
ten
days
that
we're
being
told.
G
It's
often
like
it's
locked
in
too
long
for
our
members,
especially
since,
especially
since
they
don't
want
to
risk
getting
late
fees,
they
don't
want
to
risk
getting
a
court
order,
etc.
G
Right,
especially
since,
like
they're
not
even
allowed
to
apply
for
the
month
ahead,
they've
been
told
they
can't
apply
for
august
right
now,
so
they've
got
to
wait
until
that
august
deadline
when
that
negative
number
hits
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
being
highlighted
right,
that's
why
people
are
afraid
to
apply
so
you've
got
a
bunch
of
people
who
are
borrowing
money
they're
in
the
negatives,
but
it
doesn't
show
on
their
accounts
because
they're
borrowing
from
friends
and
family,
they
borrow
thousand
to
six
thousand
dollars
just
because
they're
really
afraid
they
don't
want
to
get
that
late
fee.
G
On
top
of
it,
a
lot
of
that
rental
assistance
is
sometimes
going
to
the
cost
of
late
fees,
which
is
unreasonable,
because
that
is
something
the
landlord
should
be
taking
into
account.
Not
charging.
The
landlord
should
not
be
profiting
off
of
the
tenants,
especially
during
covet
yeah,
and
then
they
should
attendant
shouldn't
have
to
pay
the
late
fee.
If
arlington
county
is
not
covering
that
right,
I'm
hearing
mixed
messages
from
people
some
people
are
having
arlington
thrive
cover
the
late
fees.
G
Other
people
are
having
to
cover
the
late
fees
themselves,
so
that's
an
issue.
We
also
have
a
bunch
of
people
who
are
part-time
and
that's
also
been
we're.
Working
part-time
and
they've
started
being
denied
any
access
to
this
aid
and
that's
also
problematic,
because
the
hours
are
not
necessarily
matching
up
to
their
rents,
yep
and
then,
as
for
language
barriers,
there
are
some
language
barriers
as
well
too.
G
I
do
think
that,
like
benefit
to
actually
have
someone
actu
ask
what
language
do
you
prefer
to
speak,
especially
since
usually
it's
assumed
they
speak
english
and
then
I'm
usually,
on
the
other
end
helping
them
out,
but
members
will
often
find
that's
an
issue.
Let's
see
not
only
that
some
of
the
I
think
most
of
the
calls
that
I've
made
with
people
are
pretty
respectful.
G
However,
I
have
noticed
that
when
I
speak
with
my
more
white
sounding
voice,
I
get
a
lot
better
service,
so
I
do
think
that's
inappropriate
yes,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
like
being
taken
into
consideration.
G
C
Thank
you
michelle.
I
very
much
appreciate
that
feedback
and
I
I
hope
to
continue
that
conversation.
You
know
over
the
next
month
or
two
with
staff
as
well
as
continue
that
at
our
next
meeting
in
september
kirit
I
see
your
camera
is
on.
Did
you
have
a
final
comment.
L
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
just
wanted
to
say
thanks
thanks
nicole
and
jennifer,
I'm
sorry
that
this
topic
got
got
to
the
end,
because
what
arlington
county
is
doing
about
eviction
has
been
like
the
the
main
question
that
that's
been
asked
of
me
in
the
last,
since
we
had
our
last
in-person
meeting.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
as,
as
the
last
speaker
just
said,
there's
a
lot
still
to
discuss.
L
C
Thank
you,
kieran
and
again,
thank
you
to
all
the
commissioners
and
to
members
of
the
public
who
joined
as
well
as
thank
you
to
staff
for
putting
this
meeting
together
virtually
and
helping
us
adjust
to
the
the
code
environment
and
the
extra
you
know,
steps
that
go
into
that.