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A
A
The
county
board's
consideration
of
changes
to
our
own
zoning
code
reflects
these
National
demands,
but
it
must
be
implemented
in
a
way
that
is
consistent
with
our
local
values
and
needs.
My
colleagues
and
I
are
using
these
next
few
months
to
better
understand
the
challenges
and
the
opportunities
Associated
not
just
with
our
status
quo,
but
with
the
possible
array
of
changes
that
are
up
for
consideration
now.
The
most
important
thing
I
must
start
with
tonight
is
at
this
point
in
the
process.
The
County
Board
has
not
voted
on,
nor
scheduled
consideration
of
any
ordinance
changes.
A
Our
conversations
with
the
community
and
information
sessions
like
this
as
we
determine
what,
if
any
policy
decisions
are
made
in
the
coming
months
before
we
launch
into
our
session
tonight,
focused
on
growth
and
planning
for
it,
I'd
like
to
provide
some
history
and
background
on
the
missing
middle
housing
study
in
2015
as
part
of
the
affordable
housing
master
plan,
the
county
adopted
a
policy
to
explore
more
housing
options
within
our
neighborhoods
that
currently
only
allow
single
household
dwellings
to
implement
that
policy.
The
board
requested
that
the
missing
middle
housing
study
be
initiated
in
2019..
A
Tonight's
session
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
explore
a
topic
in
depth
with
our
special
guests,
and
tonight's
topic
is
planning
for
growth.
How
does
Arlington
plan
to
accommodate
a
growing
population,
and
specifically,
how
do
we
deal
with
having
enough
space
and
seats
for
our
students,
sufficient
infrastructure,
emergency
services
and
ample
parks
and
open
space?
What
about
the
transportation
options
that
are
available
to
house
and
accommodate
a
growing
population
and
when
the
county
staff,
along
with
our
advisory
commissions
and
the
County
Board,
considers
changes
to
the
zoning
ordinance
or
a
site
plan?
A
How
do
we
actually
reference
and
consult
pre-existing
plans
and
how
are
those
updated
when
more
people
move
into
the
county
and
when
circumstances
change?
So
before
we
get
started?
Let
me
go
ahead
and
introduce
our
guests
tonight.
I
am
excited
to
welcome
Chuck
Bean,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
Metropolitan
Washington
Council
of
governments
and
also
an
Arlington
resident,
we're
also
joined
by
Nora
palmateer,
who
is
a
longtime
Arlington
resident
and
one
of
our
foremost
resident
environmental
stewards.
Welcome
Nora.
A
We
also
have
John
Chadwick,
who
is
the
principal
at
the
DLR
Consulting
Group,
but
he's
known
to
many
of
you
as
the
former
associate
assistant,
superintendent
of
facilities
and
facilities
at
Arlington,
Public
Schools
and
we're
also
joined
by
Ron
Carly,
who
is
currently
an
assistant
professor
at
Old,
Dominion
University,
but
is
known
to
us
all
as
a
former
County
Manager
in
Arlington
and
also
was
a
city
manager
in
Charlotte
in
North.
Carolina
welcome
everyone
I'm,
so
excited
that
you
could
be
a
part
of
this
conversation.
A
I
couldn't
imagine
a
better
panel
of
individuals
to
discuss
this
topic
of
growth
sincerely
so
before
we
get
into
it.
I
would
just
like
to
provide
each
of
you
with
an
opportunity
to
tell
us
a
bit
about
yourself
and
what
brings
you
to
wanting
to
help
our
community
work
through
this
conversation
about
thinking
about
growth
and
thinking
about
the
future
and
I'll
start
off
with
Chuck.
B
Yeah
Christian
great
to
be
here
with
you
all
at
the
consul
governments
we're
a
hub
for
regional
collaboration
throughout
the
metropolitan
area,
so
Suburban
Maryland
and
the
district
and
Northern
Virginia
we're
also
the
federally
designated
Metropolitan
planning
organization
and
as
the
mpo
for
the
region,
we're
focused
on
Transportation,
Planning,
environmental
planning
and
as
a
hub
for
collaboration.
We
bring
all
the
police
Chiefs,
all
the
Fire
Chiefs
from
throughout
the
region.
B
Maybe
for
this
discussion
we
bring
all
the
housing
directors
together
every
month,
all
the
planning
directors
to
look
at
forecasting
for
jobs,
population
and
housing.
Excellent.
C
I'm
here,
for
both
personal
reasons
and
for
the
trees,
I
mean
I've.
My
spouse
and
I
live
in
a
75
year
old
house
and
we're
75
ourselves
and
we're
discussing
which
is
going
to
go
first,
the
structure
of
the
house
are
our
needs
and
we've
looked
at
all
the
options
of.
Where
do
we
move?
How
do
we
retrofit
the
house
and
realize
that
some
of
the
thoughts
of
the
missing
middle?
C
If
we
could
do
a
duplex
in
our
house,
we
could
make
it
accessible
so
that
we
could
age
in
place
and
we
could
get
my
nephew
and
his
family
on
the
other
side
to
provide
that
care
that
you
know
as
we
age
that
we're
going
to
need.
Also
I
can
get
him
to
do
all
the
heavy
lifting
and
yard
work.
So
that's
the
personal
part
of
it
on
the
other
side,
I'm
really
interested
in.
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
Nora
and
John
welcome.
Welcome
back
to
Arlington.
Thank
you.
Hopefully,
you've
had
a
chance
to
drive
through
the
county
and
see
some
of
the
fruits
of
your
many
great
labors.
Thank.
D
You
so
you
know,
after
10
years,
Arlington
kind
of
gets
into
your
system.
I
I
was
listening
to
Ron
Carly
talk
about
that
too,
and
I
really
care
about
kids.
D
That's
why
I
do
schools
and
why
I
care
about
schools,
so
I'm
happy
to
come
back
and
give
you
some
some
benefit
from
my
experience,
but
also
since
I
left
Arlington
working,
the
DLR
group
I
am
working
on
new
schools
and
particularly
on
the
intersection
of
planning
for
large
school
districts
along
with
energy
and
climate
and
how
all
those
things
come
together
so
always
interested
in.
What's
going
on
in
Arlington
great.
A
C
E
Office
here
where
ODU
is
but
there's
no
telling
where
you'll
find
me
from
one
moment.
B
E
Do
regret
that
I
cannot
be
there
with
you
tonight
the
studio
that
you're
in
actually
was
most
of
it.
What's
my
office
in.
E
When
I
was
Director
of
Human
Services
in
Arlington,
when
I
came
in
1980
I
I
came
and
visited
Arlington
for
the
first
time
in
late,
79
I'd
moved
to
Washington
to
work
for
a
member
of
Congress,
which
lasted
one
month,
which
was
about
30
days
too
long.
It
turns
out
I'm
allergic
to
Congress
and
Congress
was
allergic
to
me,
and
I
found
myself
unemployed
living
in
the
district
on
Unemployment
insurance
from
Alabama
about
75
dollars
a
month
less
than
my
rental
in
Washington,
and
so
I
was
looking
for.
E
A
job
came
over
to
Arlington
and
I've
got
to
tell
you
in
1980.
It
was
not
impressive.
The
main
street
was
was
shabby
to
say
the
least,
both
Wilson
Boulevard
and
Columbia
Pike.
You
had
lanes
that
changed
on
rush
hour
to
get
people
in
and
out
of
the
county
as
quickly
as
possible.
The
major
shopping,
of
course,
was
Parkinson.
My
mother
had
been
a
retail
clerk
at
JC
Penney's,
and
she
said
the
JCPenney's
at
Parkinson
was
absolutely
the
worst
JCPenney's
she
had
been
in
in
her
life.
E
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much
Ron
and
it's
useful
for
this
conversation
to
be
reminded
that
you
know
growth
may
be
moderate
or
incremental,
but
change
can
be
substantial,
particularly
when
you're
talking
over
Generations.
A
So
we
welcome
you
to
this
conversation,
but
to
start
off
Chuck
I'd
like
for
you
to
just
set
the
regional
stage
for
a
little
bit
because
we
exist
Arlington
within
a
dynamic
region,
a
dynamic
region
that
is
attractive
to
lots
of
people
who
want
to
come
here
and
I'd
love
for
you
to
give
us
a
sense
of
what
are
the
regional
factors
influencing
that
growth
and
how
Arlington
really
fits
into
the
puzzle
in
terms
of
receiving
a
portion
of
that
growth.
B
Sure
short
answer:
the
factor
is
jobs,
so
jobs
has
driven
the
growth
jobs
drives.
Population
and
population
drives
the
need
for
housing.
I
go
back
historically,
Arlington
doubled
in
size
in
the
30s
doubled
again
in
size
in
the
40s
I
mentioned
that
now,
because
I
I
think
it
Bears
some
examination.
What
patterns
were
set
in
that
rapid
growth
between
1930
and
1950.?
B
B
Now
we
get
to
this
last
decade,
660
000
people
were
added
between
2010
and
2020..
Go
back
to
my
short
answer.
Why?
Because
of
jobs?
So,
looking
out
over
the
next
decade,
we
forecast
an
additional
400
000
jobs
in
our
region
that
drives
the
demand
for
population
and
the
need
for
housing.
So
we
predict
about
six
hundred
thousand
additional
residents
coming
to
our
region
over
the
next
decade.
The
factor
coming
for
jobs,
the
economic
vibrancy
of
this
region.
A
B
We
we
talk
about
trans
and
we've
analyzed
the
nodes
of
all
the
high.
We
call
them
high
capacity
transit
station
areas,
just
10
percent
of
the
Region's
land
mass,
but
they
will
expect
to
receive
about
55
percent
of
all
future
jobs.
So
where
there's
high
capacity
Transit,
those
are
like
high
opportunity
areas,
so
those
jobs
will
need
a
place
to
sleep
at
night
and
that's
the
that's
the
challenge
our
region
is
facing.
A
Well,
certainly,
we
know
that
when
one
of
the
more
recent
jobs
centers
chose
Arlington
as
a
place
to
grow
Amazon,
another
factor
that
was
not
insignificant
was
the
equality
and
the
investment
in
public
education.
So
John,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
role
of
schools
and
school
facilities
in
a
community's
ability
to
grow
and
to
attract
interest?
Well,.
D
I'm
during
my
time
in
Arlington
I
met
a
lot
of
young
families
and
many
of
those
families
had
moved
from
DC
or
from
somewhere
else
specifically
for
the
schools
and
I
know
that
from
what
was
going
on
at
the
time
when
that
employer
came
to
Arlington,
that
was
a
major
consideration
and
I
think
you
have
to
really
look
at
as
you
look
at
population
growth,
how
much
of
that
is
school-aged
children,
so
you
might
have
a
low,
like
you
said,
one
percent
or
so
over
the
last.
You
know
20
years.
D
D
So
we
had
a
major
impact
on
the
schools
and
I
we
when
we
were
chatting
with
Nora
before
the
street
after
Street
in
Arlington,
where
people
have
families
have
turned
over
or
older
people
have
moved
out
or
on
and
they've
turned
back
to
families
with
kids
and
it's
just
a
pet
that
keeps
repeating,
because
Arlington
is
a
really
nice
place
to
live
and
a
lot
of
people
stay
here
for
a
long
time.
It's
terrific.
A
A
571-348-3053,
that
number
is
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
We
welcome
you
to
get
in,
but
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
monopolize
the
floor
for
a
little
while
longer
because
Nora,
you
know,
in
addition
to
the
the
people
who
may
want
to
come,
whether
it's
because
of
of
jobs
or
who
see
it
as
a
great
place
to
bring
a
family
because
of
schools.
You
know
communities
all
over
deal
with
that
level
of
dynamic,
but
part
of
what
influences
growth
are
people
who
are
committed
to
staying
here,
and
you
have
committed
to
Arlington
long
term.
C
C
Since,
for
the
last
20
years,
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Volunteering
in
the
Parks
taking
care
of
the
trees
native
habitat
and
I
find
that
the
staff
that
I
work
with
it's
very
dedicated
to
that
too.
So
we
go
and
what
is
also
interesting,
is
I've
served
on
a
lot
of
these
commissions
like
for
the
school
for
Cardinal
and
Fleet,
and
the
facilities
commission.
What
was
it
called?
The
multi-facilities,
the.
C
B
C
Mean
ball
fields
that
are
compacted
right:
Turf
Lawns
that
don't
have
any
native
plants
in
them,
the
shrubs
that
are
just
from
China
or
somewhere
else,
that
don't
feed
insects
or
Birds.
That's
not
sustainable,
but
it's
green.
So
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
with
my
view,
working
on
this
as
well.
Terrific.
A
And
you
know
Ron,
we
very
much
appreciate
your
personal
story
of
what
it
was
like
as
a
young
professional
and
what
Arlington
did
or
did
not
offer.
And
of
course,
you
are
certainly
responsible
for
a
lot
of
the
things
that
I
think
have
attracted
and
retained
residents
like
Nora,
but
I.
A
You
know
like
to
ask
you,
based
on
your
experience
as
a
county
and
a
city
manager,
because
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know,
you
know
we're
talking
about
moderate
growth
in
Arlington
of
between
one
and
one
and
a
half
percent
on
an
annual
basis.
But
then
you
went
and
were
city
manager
at
a
place
that
was
growing
a
lot
more
dynamically
than
than
that
in
Charlotte.
E
Well,
the
planning
part
of
it
is
really
important
and
recognizing,
as
other
speakers
have
said,
that
we
operate
in
a
system.
It's
not
just
about
the
land
use
plan.
It
is
also
about
the
sustainability
plan,
the
education
plan,
the
facilities
plan,
the
historical
preservation
plan,
the
cultural
arts
plan,
all
of
it,
working
together
to
Envision
a
community
and
society
as
a
whole
that
people
will
want
to
live
in
and
part
of
that
Society
needs
to
be
a
diverse
Society.
E
This
has
been
a
key
part
of
Arlington
for
a
long
time,
and
Arlington
has
gone
through
some
new
Revelations
about
what
it
means
to
be
a
diverse
Community.
It
needs
to
be
Multicultural,
it
needs
to
be
racially
diverse
and
the
struggle
that
we've
had
for
the
last
20
years
in
particular,
is
to
be
economically
diverse
and
that's
where
the
issue
of
housing
becomes
so
critical.
How
do
we
get
that
diversity
of
of
Housing
Opportunity
that's
affordable
for
the
full
range
of
jobs
that
we
will
have
in
Arlington?
E
There
are
not
all
are
going
to
be
100
150,
200
000
a
year
jobs.
People
have
to
people
have
to
clean
the
Amazon
offices.
You
know
their
people
have
to
fill
the
daycare
slots.
People
have
to
be
physical
therapists,
we've
had
a
whole
lot
of
jobs
that
are
never
going
to
pay
the
kind
of
incomes
necessary
to
buy
a
home
of
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
E
A
million
dollars
million
and
a
half
dollars
I
I
would
has
I
would
I
would
be
frightful
to
look
up
to
see
how
much
the
homes
I
owned
in
Arlington
are
worth
today,
and
so
to
do
that,
we've
got
to.
We
have
to
plan
around
the
whole
system
and
that
takes
Visionary
people
on
the
County
Board.
It
takes
exceptional
staff
and
I
will
add
to
what
some
other
stuff
said.
E
Arlington
historically
has
had
truly
exceptionally
dedicated
staff,
but
what
has
made
Arlington
successful
in
its
planning
has
been
the
continuity,
there's
not
been
dramatic
shifts
one
way
or
another.
The
board
has
worked
together,
as
the
staff
has
worked
together,
having
the
council
manager
plan
of
government
so
that
you
you're
able
to
get
that
continuity
and
be
and
you're
able
to
take
the
long-term
View
and
not
just
the
view
for
the
next
election
and
I
would
say
the
single
most
important
part
for
Effective
Community
planning,
wherever
it
is,
is
engagement
with
the
community.
E
People
I
think
have
a
hard
time
understanding
today
how
radical
the
the
re-envisioning
of
Arlington
was
in
the
1960s.
In
fact,
I'm
still
surprised
today
how
radical
the
re-envisioning
of
Columbia
Pike
was,
even
though
I
was
directly
involved
with
it,
and
those
traumatic
changes
were
possible
because
the
people
in
the
community
were
involved
with
it.
It
takes
a
lot
of
work.
All
these
meetings,
you're
having
you
know,
some
people
are
saying,
while
you're
having
these
you're
just
going
to
do
whatever
you
want
to
do
in
the
end.
Well,
that's
just
not
true.
E
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
I've
sat
at
the
dice
in
Arlington
Ellis,
County
Manager
around
some
development
plan
or
or
change
in
zoning,
and
not
knowing
what
the
votes
were
until
the
votes
were
taken
because
board
members
didn't
know
how
they're
going
to
vote
until
they
had
the
public
hearings
and
listen
to
people.
Engagement,
matters
in
Arlington
and
and
I
know.
There's
a
tendency
to
be
cynical
these
days,
but
people
can
have
an
impact
if
they
will
involve
themselves.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
that,
and
you
know
you.
You
all
have
hinted
that
the
you
know
when
you
think
about
planning
it's
it's.
It's
should
be
self-evident,
but
Bears
repeating
that
this
is
not
about
today
and
it's
not
even
really
about
tomorrow.
It's
about
some
increment
moving
forward
in
the
future
and
so
Chuck
as
you
began.
The
conversation
telling
us
what
the
next
10
years
look
like,
but
planning
on
a
regional
level
goes
beyond
just
10
years
right,
yeah,.
B
We
do
forecasts
for
the
next
25
years
and
I
mentioned
being
the
Metropolitan
planning
organization,
in
fact,
that
entity
transportation
planning
board
does
a
25-year
Transportation
plan.
That's
built
on
these
forecasts
of
jobs,
housing
and
population.
They
mentioned
Amazon
a
moment
ago
and
I'm
remembering
back
to
2018,
when
our
region
had
three
sites
on
the
short
list
for
Amazon
350
places
biggest
Economic
Development
competition
in
history
when
there
were
three
places,
one
in
Maryland,
one
in
the
district
and,
of
course,
Virginia
I
thought.
Well
this
this
is
probably
going
to
happen.
B
We
need
to.
We
need
to
get
moving
on
this
and
I
think
the
impulse
at
that
time
was
congestion.
What's
this
going
to
mean
for
transportation,
very
congestion
focused,
so
we
brought
the
director
of
the
Seattle
Department
of
Transportation
to
speak
to
our
planners
and
to
the
Cog
board
and
expecting
him
as
director
of
transportation,
to
talk
about
Transportation.
He
did
about
40
percent
of
the
time
about
60
percent
of
the
time
you
focus
on
housing
that
that
was
the
key
and
that's
really
gotten
our
thinking,
along
with
some
scenario
plan.
B
If
we
want
better
transportation
outcomes,
focus
on
housing,
build
the
housing
closer
to
these
job
opportunities.
Otherwise
a
lot
of
folks
are
facing
two-hour
commutes
and
that's
no
good
for
transportation.
It's
no
good
for
sustainability
and
for
quality
of
life,
so
more
housing
closer
to
the
jobs
has
been
something
we
really
focused
on
in
the
last
three
years.
A
And
and
Nora,
you
know
your
personal
story
of
what
makes
you
interested
in
perhaps
a
duplex,
the
kind
of
circumstance
that
allows
for
you
to
age
in
the
community
that
you've
called
home
to
maybe
invite
family
members
to
share
in
some
of
the
opportunities
for
home
ownership.
You
know
it's
a
different
way
of
thinking
than
has
been
the
way
sort
of
communities
have
developed
over
the
last
25
years,
or
so
you
know,
I
I
shouldn't
say
that
it's.
A
You
know
you
think
that
the
kinds
of
circumstances
that
you
desire
are
kind
of
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
common
than
perhaps
they've.
C
Well,
part
of
my
thinking
is
that
my
niece-in-law
is
an
immigrant
and
it's
very
traditional
in
her
culture
that
she
lived
with
her
grandmother
and
parents
and
aunts
and
uncles,
and
so
whenever
we
were
talking,
I
was
thinking.
Well,
you
know
this
might
work
and
I
think
and
it
used
to
be
the
old
way
of
doing
it.
C
You
know
back
in
the
1900s,
so
I
think
it
is
going
to
happen
and
since
I've
been
talking
with
other
friends,
my
age
and
they'll
say
oh
I
was
thinking,
I'd
have
to
move
out
and
leave
my
house
to
my
kids
so
that
they
could
live
there.
Maybe
we
could
do
this
too,
because
the
thought
of
building
a
mcmansion
with
six
bedrooms
and
happy
to
share
a
kitchen
just
doesn't
appeal
to
me,
but
a
duplex
I
could
deal
with
so
I
think
it's
going
to
happen.
A
All
right
and
and
John,
you
know,
Arlington
schools,
you
know,
went,
went
through
a
period
of
time
where
you
know
we
were
adding
lots
of
units
to
the
county
to
accommodate
those.
Those
professionals
who
are
working
in
the
occupations
not
seeing
a
lot
of
students
come
from
that
population
growth.
But
then
it
was
the
Redevelopment
in
some
of
our
existing
neighborhoods
with
homes
of
bigger
sizes
that
were
driving
a
significant
amount
of
the
school
population
growth.
D
Well,
it's
a
bit
of
an
art
and
I
used
to
get
a
little
frustrated
because
people
would
expect
it
to
be
your
projections
they're
going
to
be
100
or
not.
No
they're,
not
it's
a
projection,
it's
a
projection,
so
that
was
a
little
bit
frustrating
and
and
I
know.
My
former
colleague
Liz
stengle
is
continually
collaborating
with
County
staff
to
make
it
consider
more
things
to
get
online.
D
You
know
housing
developments
coming
online,
looking
at
birth
rates,
but
I
want
to
challenge
you
on
one
thing
and
that
is
it
really
wasn't
that
much
the
new
developments
that
were
bringing
students
in
it
was
the
turnover
of
single-family
homes
because,
as
we
said
before,
Arlington's
a
place
people
stay,
and
so
there
are
neighborhoods
that
have
turned
over.
You
mentioned
your
street
right
normal,
give.
C
C
Rugrats,
well,
they
all
grew
up
and
graduated
and
are
far
away,
and
then
we
went
through
a
period
of
just
as
senior
olders
living
there,
but
within
the
last
10
years
it's
turned
young
again
and
we
now
we
I
counted
the
other
day.
There
were
25
Public,
School
Kids
on
the
Block,
so
it
went
from
10
to
0
to
25
and
there's
no
more
houses.
B
D
So
one
of
the
planning
factors
we
do
look
at
is
housing
generation
rates.
So,
for
you
keep
great
statistics
that
we
use
on
housing
types
and
then
we
because
we
know
where
all
the
kids
are.
We
can
check
what
the
generation
factor
is
of
kids
per
housing
type
and
we
would
continually
look
at
the
generation
rate
from
single-family
homes
and
it
was
a
great
deal.
Less
I
can't
remember
the
exact
numbers
40
50
percent
0.4
percent-
in
other
words,.
D
Powers
some
of
the
communities
around
us
like
Loudoun
and
some
parts
of
Fairfax-
it's
80
right,
so
that
actually
suggests
there's
a
lot
more
room
for
growth.
If
all
of
those
houses
turned
over,
they
won't,
but
it's
still
a
very
low
number
and
then
we
would
also
see
well.
How
many
are
we
getting
from
a
high-rise
apartment
buildings?
D
It's
not
that
affordable
and
they
limit
the
number
of
family
members
who
can
live
in
a
unit
for
a
certain
size
as
opposed
to
the
market
rate,
affordable
housing,
some
of
the
garden
apartment
complexes
where,
because
it
is
so
expensive
to
live
in
Arlington
family,
is
living
one
per
room
right.
So
we
kept
very
close
tabs
on
those
numbers,
and
that
was
a
huge
collaboration
with
County
and
schools
to
just
see
what
was
happening.
A
And-
and
you
know
it
bore
out
in
the
results-
you
know
you
could
have
a
high
degree
of
overall
accuracy.
You
know
it
becomes
less
precise,
as
you're
you're
thinking
on
the
neighborhood
level,
but
this
kind
of
planning
has
informed
the
number
of
seats
that
you
helped
spearhead
the
school
system,
developing
which
remind
us
how
how
far
into
the
future
was.
That
was
that
planning
process
designed
to
take
us
well.
D
The
enrollment
projections,
when
I
started,
were
done
for
six
years
in
advance
and
now
they're
done
for
10
years
and
they're
done
with
a
lot
more
thought
as
as
we
just
mentioned,
but
then
something
like
covid
can
happen
and
that
completely
threw
everything
off
and
so
We
Grew
From
about
18
000
students
when
I
in
about
2007
2008
and
we're
now
around
27
000.,
that
is
humongous
growth
for
a
school
district
and
we
sort
of
Managed
IT.
Obviously,
relocatable
classrooms
were
part
of
the
solution
and
we
built
a
lot
of
schools.
D
But
right
now,
I
checked
with
my
colleagues
and
it's
pretty
flat
and
it's
projected
to
be
pretty
flat,
but
the
projections
really
aren't
very
good
because
they're,
partly
on
a
three-year,
you
know
rolling
number,
so
people
moving
out
during
covert
taking
their
kids
somewhere
else.
You
know
having
their
kids
still
in
school
here
or
School
somewhere
else.
It's
really
hard
to
account
for
that.
B
Pick
up
on
that
something
Ron
said
earlier
is
we
need
to
think
about
this
as
a
system
of
systems
and
the
wonderful
schools
that
we
have
in
Arlington
the
facilities,
the
it's
got
to
have
a
vibrant
economic
base
and
that
relates
to
the
planning
and
I
think
major
decisions
made
by
the
County
Board
going
back
Generation
generation
a
half
ago,
creating
that
Rosalind
Ballston
Corridor,
creating
all
that
value.
B
D
A
We're
thinking
about
population,
for
you
know,
at
minimum
25-year
Outlook
schools
were
looking
at
a
10-year
Outlook
and
all
of
these
perspectives,
along
with
the
vision
that
the
community
is,
is
ever
iterating
all
goes
into
what
we
put
together
in
in
Virginia
the
comprehensive
plan-
and
this
is
not
a
pro
forma
exercise
in
Arlington.
We
take
it
quite
seriously.
Don't
we
Ron.
E
Well,
indeed,
we
do
and
I
think
one
of
the
challenges.
Historically,
when
I
was
there
is
getting
all
the
pieces
really
to
fit
together.
Sometimes
the
different
components
of
the
plan
went
different
tracks
in
over
the
last
10
years.
I
think
Arlington
has
integrated
them
a
lot
better
and
there's
some
really
good
materials,
some
graphics
that
are
available
in
the
Arlington
website.
That
shows
the
interrelationships
of
the
different
plans.
I
wanted
to
mention
about
Amazon.
E
This
is
this:
it's
a
good
illustration
of
how
you
have
to
take
the
Long
View
and
have
a
vision
and
keep
working
at
it.
That
was
one
of
the
hardest
projects
that
you
can
possibly
imagine
because
of
complex
ownership
because
of
contamination,
a
whole
host
of
things.
That's
probably
one
of
the
projects
in
Arlington.
That
would
have
been
the
easiest
to
never
do
and
look
what
we
have
now
come
when
I
come
up
that
way.
A
And-
and
you
know
Ron
when
it
comes
to
the
the
work
that
goes
into
implementing
these
plans,
whether
they
be
through
the
comp
plan
or
others,
a
vehicle
that
we
do,
it
is
through
our
our
capital
budget,
and
you
know,
particularly
the
the
capital
Investments
that
we
make
that
are
publicly
financed
through
through
bonds.
You
know
these
take
a
a
Time
horizon
or
are
projecting
over
a
Time
Horizon
that
reflects
the
nature
of
the
investment.
E
It
very
much
so,
and
the
facilities
are
especially
important.
I
think
in
this
context
are
those
we
don't
talk
publicly
too
much
about
because
they're
not
very
sexy,
and
that's
the
water
sewer
system
really
having
the
infrastructure
that
can
accommodate
whatever
new
form
of
development
that
we
have
and
the
real
danger.
E
One
of
the
real
dangers
in
the
capital
planning
that
I
was
always
very
sensitive
about,
is
trying
to
do
too
much
too
fast
and
not
leaving
capacity
within
the
bond
within
your
bond
within
your
bond
capacity
within
your
debt
service
to
be
able
to
respond
to
unforeseen
things
in
the
future.
A
So
you
know
I
want
to
the
next
part.
I
think
I
need
to
maybe
issue
a
caveat,
because
this
conversation
has
largely
been
cheerleading
for
Arlington
and
I.
Don't
think
we
should
apologize
for
that.
You
know
you've
contributed
to
great
work
for
this
County.
We
residents
enjoy
the
fruits
of
that
Labor,
but
part
of
this
conversation
when
it
comes
to
zoning
reform
or
potential
options
for
new
housing
types
brings
brings
two
people's
mind.
A
The
concept
of
change
and
I
think
it
would
only
be
fair
to
acknowledge
that
people
process
change
differently
and
have
different
tolerance
for
change
and
I
will
take
it
as
a
testament
to
everything
that
you
all
have
said.
That
is
positive
about
Arlington,
that
people
are
worried
about
having
a
deleterious
changes.
A
Changes
that
are
are
not
reflective
of
the
kind
of
progress
that
Ron
spoke
about
earlier,
so
I
just
love
to
get
your
thoughts
on
that,
how
you
kind
of
view
the
the
notion
of
growth
and
change
from
your
your
individual
and
professional
perspectives
and
and
John.
Let
me
start
with
you
on
this
one.
D
Well,
I
think
I've
got
two
observations.
One
is,
nobody
could
have
really
done
anything
about
those
single-family
homes
that
were
sold
to
families
with
kids,
who
had
more
kids.
You
know
there's
nothing
you
can
do
about
that.
You
can
try
to
control
it,
but
I.
Don't
know
how
you
do
that
and
the
other
thing
is,
you
know:
I've
met
a
lot
of
people
in
Arlington
in
the
10
years.
D
I
was
here
almost
everybody's
moved
to
Arlington
from
somewhere
else,
and
they
moved
because
it
was
a
great
place
to
live,
and
many
of
them
stayed
much
longer
than
they
might
have
stayed
in
other
communities
and
they
all
had
a
sort
of
image
of
Arlington
when
they
when
they
moved
there,
and
that
was
what
they
wanted,
but
everybody
else
has
moved
since
then,
and
even
the
people
that
are
moving
this
week
have
their
idea
that
Arlington
is
now.
So
it's
always
going
to
change.
D
You
can
only
control
change
so
much
and
I
really
like
what
Ron
was
just
saying
about
planning
has
to
have
flexibility
on
it.
Otherwise,
it's
no
good
because
things
will
change.
So
those
are
my
two
contributions
to
that
conversation.
Thank.
C
I
am
I've
been
talking
a
lot
with
friends
and
so
far
everyone's
been
oh
yeah.
You
could
put
a
duplex
in
that'd,
be
great,
no
bigger
than
a
single
family
house
that
fit
fine
in
the
neighborhood
go
ahead,
but
whenever
you
think
about
oh
what,
if
I
tried
to
put
a
four
Plex
or
a
six
Plex
there,
then
you
run
into?
How
is
this
really
going
to
work
out?
Is
the
sewer
going
to
hook
up
right
and
especially,
if
you
think
about
in
2007
how's
it
how's
it
going
to
fit
out
there?
C
Is
there
going
to
be
enough
sewer,
space
and
stuff
and
concern
about
the
parking
and
all
of
that
now
I
think
that
can
be
figured
out
and
I
would
love
to
see
four
plexes
and
six
plexes
all
over
I
mean
I
walk
past
Westover.
All
the
time
doesn't
bother
me
at
all
all
those
apartments
that
are
about
three
blocks
from
my
house,
so
it
can
be
done,
but
I
hear
people's
worry
about
it.
Of
course,
maybe
they
should
just
come
to
Westover
and
see
how
we
do
it.
E
I
want
to
go
to
the
West
over
now
and
go
to
11
East
River,
so
so
change
is
inevitable
and
as
human
beings,
we
are
pre-wired
in
support
of
the
status
quo,
because
changing
the
Status
Quo
requires
making
a
decision,
and
the
decision
could
be
wrong
and
we
hate
to
be
wrong.
So
we
just
stay
with
things,
even
if
it's
not
working
very
well
to
us,
and
so
the
question
I
actually
do
some
training
on
this
I
am
in
the
morning.
E
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
question
I
ask
people
to
ask:
is
this:
if
you
were
starting
all
over
again
today,
would
you
do
it
this
way
and
if
not,
then
it's
really
worth
examining
you
know
what
would
you
do
differently
and
why
and
I
have
to
say
on
the
duplex
question
and
and
trying
to
bring
some
increased
density
in
some
of
the
single-family
neighborhoods
we've
done
that
before
I
mean
there
are
some
lessons
there,
it
didn't
necessarily
create
affordable
housing.
E
I
lived
in
the
Glebe
in
07
at
the
very
tip
end
of
Arlington,
and
there
are
a
number
of
townhouse
developments
in
what
was
one
time.
Basically,
farmland-
and
it
was
a
new
form-
it
was
very
expensive
for
them
and
it's
very
expensive
form.
Today
it
did
bring
in
some
increased
density,
and
so
one
of
the
questions
that's
really
important
to
ask
as
you're
as
you
you
know,
you're
going
to
have
to
change,
but
you
know
that
some
people
are
going
to
not
like
it.
People
have
been
opposed
to
every
change.
Arlington's
ever
made.
E
E
We
subsidies
have
been
a
part
of
every
Housing
Initiative
forever
in
this
country,
and
every
wealthy
person
living
in
our
only
time
gets
a
larger
subsidy
that
every
person
living
in
affordable
housing
in
Arlington
through
mortgage
tax
breaks
and
unfortunately
so.
Unfortunately,
it
falls
to
State
and
particularly
local
governments,
to
provide
the
affordability
subsidies
that
are
necessary
for
lower
income
and
middle
income.
People
and
if
the,
if
the,
if
what
we
want
in
Arlington,
is
an
economically
diverse
Community.
A
Well
Ron,
if
you
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
regressive
impact
of
the
mortgage
interest
tax
deduction
I'll
invite
you
for
that
conversation.
We'll
do
we'll
do
that.
Another
time,
I'm
sure
it'll
be
highly
viewed
in
our
community,
but
so
so
much
Rich
stuff.
There
I
want
to
pause
for
a
little
bit
because
you
know
part
of
of
what
we're
hearing
concerns
from
from
individuals,
not
just
about
change,
but
if
you
want
to
have
an
interesting
barroom
argument
in
Arlington,
bring
up
the
word
density
and
then
ask
for
people's
responses.
A
There
are
some
people
who
you
know
automatically
see
it
as
a
tool
to
create
societal,
good
and
other
people
view
it
as
a
plague
to
be
avoided
at
all
costs.
I
just
love
to
hear
your
perspectives
on
it
as
both
a
professional
and
a
resident
of
whatever
Community
you're
in.
How
are
you
viewing
density
and
I'll
open
it
up
to
anyone
who
just
wants
to
respond.
E
Because
the
the
most
striking
discussion
I
had
on
dense
I
saw
a
density
in
Arlington
was
not
a
discussion
about
density
and
it
was
on
the
re-envisioning
of
Columbia
Pike,
and
in
that
effort
we
intentionally
didn't
talk
about
densities
or
far
or
any
of
that
kind
of
obscure
stuff
that
nobody.
What
what's
like,
1.7
3.0
far.
Nobody
knows
what
that
is
except
a
few
people
in
Arlington,
but
most
people,
don't
they
don't
care.
B
I
I
think
the
the
way
that
I
hear
that
question
I.
Think
of
where
to
geek
out
on
planning
a
bit.
You
know
when
Ron
started
I
think
the
plans
were
live
somewhere,
work
somewhere
else
and
so
was
the
spokes
in
and
out,
and
then
you
know
during
Ron's
tenure
and
throughout
the
country
Transit
oriented
development,
which
meant
mixed
juice,
live
and
work
in
the
same
place
as
possible.
So
one
of
the
challenges
with
that
is
the
affordability,
the
appreciation
of
that
real
estate
around
these
high
opportunity
areas.
B
So
I
think
this
next
way
we
need
to
get
into
is
mixed
use
and
mixed
income,
so
that
housing
is
is
imperative
in
that
in
that
sense,
so
that
there's
housing
availability
at
different
price
points,
not
just
the
200
000
jobs,
the
200
000
jobs
that
somebody
mentioned
before,
but
a
different
price
point.
So
yes,
we've
often
said
for
years:
police
and
firefighters
and
teachers
can't
afford
to
live
here,
but
through
the
pandemic,
I'm
glad
that
those
grocery
store
workers
at
Centro
at
Harris
Teeter
in
on
Columbia
Pike,
were
there
to
serve
us.
B
C
Else,
yeah,
I,
think
density
in
many
people's
mind
is
confused
with
having
Nature
close
that
there's
a
sense
of
if
you
live
in
a
high-rise
building
right
across
from
a
big
Park.
You
don't
think
you're
dense,
because
you
can
walk
out
your
door.
Sea
trees
see
flowers,
sea
butterflies,
whereas
the
farther
away
you
are
from
nature,
the
more
you
don't
feel
good
that
it's
not
good.
I
mean
we
have
that
whole
thing
about
biophilia,
which
the
county
signed,
that
it
is
a
member
of
the
biophilia
network.
B
D
And,
as
you
know,
we
built
a
few
schools
in
the
last
10
years
and
we
went
through
heavy
Community
engagement
around
it,
and
sometimes
it
was
grueling,
but
we
always
learned
a
lot
and
it
was
better
for
the
process.
But
one
thing
we
heard
time
and
time
again
is
particularly
with
elementary
schools.
Families
want
to
live
within
walking
distance
and
the
more
families
that
live
within
walking
distance,
the
fewer
buses
we
have
on
the
roads
and
all
of
those
benefits,
so
that
density
brings
benefits
and
I
was
always
a
little
amused.
D
When
we
were
talking
about
the
fleet
School
and
the
expansion
of
the
career
center
into
a
high
school.
Because
what
that
allows
for
people
who
live
in
that
neighborhood,
they
will
be
able
to
walk
their
kids
will
be
able
to
walk
to
every
school
they
go
to.
Nobody
walked
to
walk
to
elementary
school
middle
school
and
high
school,
and
there's
tremendous
diversity
in
that
neighborhood.
D
What
I
feared
was
the
density
and
those
that
the
attraction
of
that
would,
in
the
end,
put
the
prices
up
and
possibly
reduce
at
least
the
economic
diversity,
so
certainly
from
schools.
It
works.
Well
now,
the
problem
we
have
with
schools
is
that
we
don't
have
anywhere
to
put
them,
and
there
have
been
some
great
things
done.
I
think
building
on
a
parking
lot
at
Jefferson
was
a
good.
D
C
E
D
And
we
had
the
courage
to
demolish
it
and
build
what
should
be
there,
so
you
really
have
to
think
you
really
have
to
think
about
that.
Now
there
were
some
great
things
happening.
The
Arlington,
Community
High
School,
being
able
to
find
Space
within
the
Amazon
building
is
fantastic.
That's
absolutely
where
everybody
should
be
going
by.
B
D
D
We
recently
did
some
work
on
a
school
in
New,
York
City,
the
school
filled
the
lot
and
the
playground
was
on
the
roof
and
I'm
working
on
another
one.
Now,
where
it's
the
same
and
there's
a
little
piece
of
space
on
the
side,
which
will
also
be
a
playground
but
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
what
the
amenities
are
and
do
we
need
all
of
those
we
have
them
in
other
places,
as
you
said,
Norma
we
have
fabulous
parks
in
Arlington
and
all
of
them
are
within
walking
distance
of
somewhere
as.
A
Heard
from
someone
in
New,
York,
City,
who's,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
the
same
place,
but
another
school
with
a
similar
Park
situation
and
they've
said.
The
added
benefit
is
school
safety
kids
are
removed
from
street
level,
which
limits
the
ability
for
detritus
and
other
things
to
be
found
in
the
parking
lot
for
people
to
have
access
to
kids
from
the
street.
They
love
it.
So
you
know
it's
it's
interesting.
A
E
A
A
You
know:
population
growth,
I
wouldn't
describe
as
being
inevitable
or
value-laden
with
the
word
beneficial.
In
our
case,
it
is
the
result
of
planning
and
projection.
So
something
that
is
is
something
that
you
have
to
manage,
or
otherwise
it
manages
you
I
think
that's
at
least
the
guiding
presumption
of
the
region
and
I.
Think
in
Arlington.
We're
also
I
think
at
a
different
place,
where
we
don't
just
look
at
jobs
as
being
high
wage
and
then
considering
them
beneficial.
We
have
a
desire,
a
vision
for
this
community
Chuck.
You
alluded
to
that.
A
We
have
inclusive
growth,
that
it
provide
an
opportunity
for
people
of
different
income
levels.
Ron,
as
you
talked
about
the
contractors
and
others
who
serve
the
Amazon
High,
wage
employees
doesn't
really
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense
ecologically
if
they
have
to
commute
in
from
Lorton
to
come
to
Arlington
to
go
to
work.
A
B
Sure
I
I
think
the
the
broader
context
that
you
were
referring
to
is
looking
at
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
and
it
was
back
in
2008,
nine
led
by
elected
officials
from
around
the
region,
Jay
facet
notable
amongst
those
those
leaders.
We
need
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
We
set
targets
for
2012
and
then
set
a
Target
for
2020
that
we
would
be
as
a
region
20
below
2005
levels
for
greenhouse
gas
reductions,
and
we
announced
today
that
our
region
did
indeed
achieve
that
Target.
B
So
some
of
the
factors
were
a
cleaner
grid,
but
to
your
question
the
second
was
vehicle
miles,
traveled
per
capita.
So
while
we
grew
660,
000
people,
those
last
decade,
vehicle
miles,
traveled
per
capita
decreased,
and
that
was
the
second
latest
leading
cause
to
decreasing
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
say
it
again.
Job
or
housing
closer
to
jobs
is
a
is
a
major
factor
not
only
improving
Transportation
outcomes,
quality
of
life
outcomes,
because
people
don't
have
to
spend
so
much
time
on
on
an
onerous
commute,
but
also
has
good
green
outcomes
too.
C
This
context
well
Green's
good
in
that
way-
and
you
know
I
agree
with
that
totally
and
I
would
take
exception
to
that
I'm.
The
only
one
in
my
family
with
a
college
degree
there's
a
lot
working
in
as
weight
staff.
You
know
the
the
person
who
checks
you
in
at
the
medical
clinic
Etc
and
they
live
in
Arlington.
Often
in
these
houses
like,
like
you
were
talking
about,
so
give
them
a
chance
to
move
in
more.
A
And
John,
you
know
you
presided
over
the
design
and
construction
and
opening
of
I
think
one
of
Arlington's
larger
capacity
elementary
schools.
That
also
happened
to
be
our
first
Net
Zero
in
terms
of
Energy
Efficiency
elementary
schools
with
Discovery
right.
D
Yeah
Discovery
was
actually
the
first
school
to
be
lead,
certified
Zero
Energy.
There
are
multiple
Zero
Energy
classifications
and
it
was
about
650
students
I
think
we
designed
it
for,
but
then
we
went
up
Cardinals
about
850
and
it
is
still
very
unusual
around
the
country
to
see
four-story
elementary
schools.
A
D
A
And
you
know:
Ron
we've
talked
about
this
within
the
context
of
the
region,
which
is
dynamically.
You
know
growing
overall,
you,
you
know
this
well,
but
I.
Imagine
the
conversation
that
we
have
in
Arlington
today
is
not
a
new
one.
You
probably
experienced
it
when
you
were
County
Manager,
where
people
wanted
us
to
maybe
use
some
levers
to
stop
the
growth
from
coming
here
and
to
maybe
go
elsewhere
in
the
region.
Would
you
give
some
some
perspectives
on?
You
know
one,
whether
that's
desirable
or
two,
whether
that's
even
possible.
E
Well,
I
think
a
very
important
point
that
you're
making
there
is
that
we
are
an
integrated
region
and
everyone
who
works
in
Arlington
is
not
going
to
live
in
Arlington
and
everyone
who
lives
in
Arlington
is
not
going
to
work
in
is
not
going
to
work
in
Arlington,
and
so
this
is
why
Cog
is
so
important
and
the
northern
Virginia
Planning
Commission
is
so
important.
We
do
need
to
be
coordinating
throughout
the
region
and
and
sharing
the
responsibility
to
provide
that
full
range
of
Housing
and
to
support
one
another
in
Economic
Development.
E
You
know
if,
if
Amazon
had
not
gone
to
Arlington,
it
would
have
been
better
for
Arlington
for
it
to
have
gone
to
Montgomery,
County
or
D.C
than
any
of
those
other
cities,
and
so
working
together
is
really
important,
and
that
includes
the
working
on
integrated
infrastructure
going
to
the
point
that
was
just
being
made
about
the
great
news
about
reduction
in
greenhouse
gases.
Well,
let's,
let's
not
forget
how
that
happened.
E
You
know
if
you
may
live
within
walking
distance
of
a
school,
but
if
you
don't
have
a
safe
path
to
get
there,
you're
not
going
to
walk
to
school
and
so
connecting
connecting
our
news
together
so
that
people
can
walk
and
I
can
tell
you
when
I
was
there
in
1980,
you
did
not
want
to
take
a
walk
down:
Columbia,
Pike
or
Wilson
Boulevard,
because
there
are
missing
sidewalks
and
inadequate
sidewalks
all
throughout
the
area
and
making
that
investment
supported.
I
just
want
to
make
one
more
one
more
point
before
I
forget
it.
B
E
In
whatever
changes
that
are
made,
don't
give
away
new
options.
The
Genius
of
those
that
preceded
me
in
Arlington
is
most
of
the
changes
that
have
occurred.
Around
density
and
new
development
have
not
been
by
right.
You've
got
to
come
in
and
put
together
a
plan
and
you've
got
to
sell
it
to
the
community.
A
Wise
counsel,
for
sure-
and
you
know
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
different
modalities
that
are
currently
important-
that
are
important
to
helping
communities
Thrive
the
infrastructure
with
with
sidewalks,
but
the
the
bike
trails-
and
you
know
the
other
multimodal
connections.
I
know
transportation
is
a
big
part
of
this
conversation
for
the
community.
They
look
at
any
increases,
however
modest
as
being
foolish.
A
If
you
don't
have
sufficient
Transportation
infrastructure
and
fortunately
our
community
is
so
different
from
when
I
first
moved
to
Arlington,
where
pretty
much
you
thought
of
Transportation
in
terms
of
Metro
Rail.
But
you
know
in
Arlington
we
have
a
substantial
local
bus
to
supplement
the
regional
bus
connections,
which
also
has
the
rail
connection.
Those
were
the
most
resilient
during
the
pandemic,
but
most
resilient
of
all
are
the
interconnected
systems
of
trails.
Sidewall
connections,
which
enabled
people
to
use
active
modes
to
move
around
I.
A
Just
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
as
as
people
who
have
been
involved
in
in
planning-
and
you
know
doing
the
professional
work
that
you
do.
The
transportation
is
a
whole
new
ball
game,
far
beyond
just
Metro
Rail,
as
considering
a
community
to
be
Transit
accessible,
isn't
it.
B
From
a
regional
perspective,
we
gotta
throw
in
VRE
and
such
a
big
impact
that
changes
that
Virginia
the
Commonwealth
has
made
to
connect
VRE
to
Metro
when
we
think
about
the
future
up
atopic
guards,
a
future
of
of
national
landing
and
Maryland,
it's
Mark,
so
wamata
Mark
VRE
and
then
the
active
Transportation,
the
The
Walking,
bicycling
I.
Think
our
region
is
second
only
to
Portland
Oregon
in
terms
of
bicycling
as
a
commute
option.
B
It
pales
in
comparison
to
our
European
Metropolitan
counterparts,
but
but
here
on
the
soapbox
for
this,
these
high-capacity
Transit
stationaries
that
I
talked
about
before
just
10
percent
of
the
Region's
landmass,
but
55
percent
of
the
job
growth
the
verb
optimize.
We
need
to
optimize
the
walk
shed
around
all
those
areas:
Half
Mile,
10,
minutes
being
able
to
walk
in
a
perfect
radius
around
that
walk,
shed,
so
Clarendon
and
other
places
are
exemplars
in
that
in
the
region.
B
Now,
thinking
about
the
the
bike
shed
what's
possible
in
a
mile
bike
shed,
maybe
longer
with
electric
bikes,
electric
bikes
are
outselling
electric
cars,
so
the
walk.
Should
the
bike
shed?
Then
I
think,
as
we
think
about
this
longer
term,
Horizon,
the
micro
Transit
jet
so
I'll
start
thinking
about
two
miles
around
these
nodes.
These
nodes
of
national
Landing
of
Ballston
microtransit,
not
the
big
bus,
but
it
might
be
a
small
bus.
It
might
be
a
on-demand
app
doing
two
mile
radius
picking
up
people
getting
them
to
the
these
opportunities.
B
So
the
overlay
of
that
Transit
and
the
different
forms
of
transportation
up
optimizing,
making
the
streets
straight
I
think
like
Ron,
was
saying,
brings
in
that
housing
overlay
that
I
talked
about
before
that
more
housing
closer
to
the
jobs,
different
types,
so
there's
different
different
price
points,
so
it's
affordable
to
different
household
budgets.
C
I
agree:
I
was
a
bike
commuter
to
work
for
years
and
years,
but
one
of
the
issues
about
transportation
that
people
get
so
upset
about
is
I'll,
pull
in
trees
again
and
trees
are
very
impacted
by
Transportation,
like
even
bike
routes.
You
need
to
have
them
farther
away
from
the
the
bike
routes
and
stuff
so
that
they
don't
interfere
with
it.
I've
been
on
several
commissions
talking
about.
C
Then
the
bike
Lanes
on
streets.
Well,
if
you
put
bike
Lanes
in
you,
may
not
have
enough
room
for
trees
to
grow
on
these
sides.
So
there's
a
fine
point
of
how
do
we?
How
do
we
keep
it
going
and
while
we're
on
tree
the
tree
canopy
is
a
really
big
issue.
People
are
afraid
that
they're
going
to
lose
even
more.
It
was
40.
41
percent
come
down
I.
We
haven't
done
a
study
recently,
but
you
know
I'm
looking
at
it
and
I
know.
C
A
So
you
know,
nor
if
we
could,
let's
go
there
for
a
little
bit
because
I
know.
Trees
are
a
foremost
concern
for
a
lot
of
people
and
there
is
I
think
a
place
where
a
lot
of
people
go
intuitively.
That
more
units
means
fewer
trees
and
I
know
that
you
have
some.
You.
C
Know
well,
I
will
say
that
since
2008
I've
worked
with
the
tree
canopy
fund
on
a
lot
of
site
visits
and
tried
to
get
people
to
take
trees
over
over
half
of
the
trees
that
we've
gotten
into
places
have
been
at
condos
and
HOAs
and
apartment
buildings.
We
get
a
lot
more
of
those
taking
a
lot
more
trees
than
we
do
single
family
homes.
It's
like
oh
I've,
got
one
tree
in
my
yard.
C
That's
all
I
need
where
they
could
really
have
three,
but
for
apartments
you
know
they're
pretty
good
about
putting
trees
around
one
of
the
things
that
if
more
larger
buildings
are
approved
in
areas,
then
the
lot
coverage
and
looking
at
all
of
that,
the
details,
the
devil's
in
the
details.
How
are
we
going
to
require
more
trees
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
state
law
about
density,
but
I?
Don't
think
in
Arlington
we'd
ever
hit
that
density
outside
of
the
corridor.
So.
D
A
And
we've
been
pretty
aggressive
in
Arlington,
ensuring
that
Redevelopment
brings
with
it
some
pretty
aggressive
tree
replacement
requirements,
and
it's
also
an
unfortunate
consequence
that
the
way
developers
have
pursued
redeveloping
property
in
our
neighborhoods
that
are
currently
zoned
for
low
density
residential
has
been
to
clear-cut
a
lot
of
any
existing
mature
canopy
before
providing
whatever
it
is
that
they're
required.
So
this
is
a
multi-layered
problem,
but
what
I'm,
taking
away
from
you
Nora,
is.
D
A
C
A
Does
slow,
which
we
also
do
here
in
Arlington,
but
you
all
know
that
so
a
lot
more
questions,
so
I'm
going
to
try
and
prioritize
the
most
alien
ones,
as
we
think
about
growth,
so
for
many
arlingtonians
Ron
they
go
back
to
the
days
of
you
know
when
Metro
came
in
and
we
concentrated
growth
along
these
Transit
corridors.
Many
people
looked
at
that
smart
growth
as
being
incredibly
effective
and
Innovative,
and
now
we're
subsequent
Generations.
A
Later
people
are
wondering
how
the
missing
middle
proposal
fits
into
either
a
compliment
or
or
contravene
the
the
Paradigm
that
we've
had
before,
and
we
didn't
ask
you
to
be
here
as
a
missing
middle
expert,
but
I
would
love
to
get
some
top-line
thoughts
about
how
you
see
this
fitting
in
with
Arlington's
growth,
history.
E
You
know
I
I,
think
the
missing
middle
needs
to
be
in
the
central
part
of
the
the
transit
oriented
growth
again,
there's
nothing
wrong
about
trying
to
bring
some
diversity
into
some
of
the
single-family
neighborhoods,
but
you're
only
going
to
have
limited
capacity
there,
and
so
some
of
the
early
Redevelopment
will
begin
to
age
out
and
they'll,
be
Redevelopment
of
Redevelopment
in
Arlington
and
beginning
to
think
about
what
that
will
look
like
in
terms
of
the
housing
requirements
and
I
think
in
terms
of
the
open
space
requirements
in
the
early
days
of
Redevelopment
coming
out
of
the
plan,
the
the
metro
plan,
the
60s
and
70s
we
didn't
require
much
with
regard
to
anything.
E
Arlington
just
really
needed
investment
at
that
point
and
you
look
at
some
of
the
site
plan
conditions
in
those
early
days.
I
mean
they're,
like
you
know,
Paige
now,
they're,
you
know
tens
of
pages
about
hundreds
of
pages
at
times,
much
of
the
dismay
of
the
development
Community.
But
the
reason
the
development
Community
has
been
willing
to
play
in
Arlington
is
because
it's
so
valuable
to
them
and
and
as
Redevelopment
occurs,
we
need
to
fix
some
of
the
mistakes.
E
We've
been
cheerleaders
of
Arlington
tonight,
but
we
made
mistakes
along
the
way
and
we
absolutely
did
not
require
enough
open
space
in
the
transit
quarters
and
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
fix
it.
But
as
Redevelopment
occurs.
That
needs
to
be
a
major
part
of
that
discussion
and
looking
truly
at
all
of
the
different
components
on
how
we
bring
diversity
of
affordability
and
housing
is
critical
so
that
people
can
live
in
or
close
to
the
community
where
they
work
for
the
full
range
of
jobs
that
are
in
Arlington.
A
I'm
just
laughing
because
I
think
it
takes
us
about
three
or
four
pages
just
to
have
Transit
development.
Transit
Transportation
demand
management,
part
of
of
site
plan
conditions,
so
times
have
certainly.
E
D
A
That's
beautiful
so
another
question
that
I'd
like
to
get
into
concerns
Equity
because
you've
all
talked
about
it
to
a
certain
degree
about
the
vision
for
the
future
of
being
more
inclusive
than
it
perhaps
has
been
in
the
past
and
invite
you
to
just
come
to
this
from
any
conversation
that
you
want.
But
if
we
accept
the
proposition
that
you
you're
not
going
to
get
the
outcomes
that
you
desire,
unless
you
are
intentional
about
them
and
plan
for
them,
what
are
some
of
your
biggest
priorities
as
it
relates
to
equity?
B
For
the
consul
governments,
the
biggest
initiative
on
Equity
is
looking
at
all
of
the
census,
tracts
of
the
region
and
analyzing
those
looking
for
concentrations
of
low-income
communities
or
communities
of
color,
so
about
364
census,
tracts
out
of
the
Region's
1300
census
tracts
have
been
identified.
We
call
them
Equity
emphasis
areas
where
we
need
to
take
extra
focus
and
all
the
aspects
of
planning.
So
Transportation
comes
first
to
mind.
B
We
think
about
the
jobs
Juggernaut
that
National
Landing
is
going
to
be,
but
we
look
at
some
of
these
census
tracts
in
South
Arlington
along
Columbia
Pike.
It
might
be
a
couple
miles
away.
How
do
we
connect
those
census
tracts
to
those
opportunities?
Well,
the
same
kind
of
analysis
can
be
done
with
those
census
tracts
looking
at
the
region
as
a
whole
on
roadway
safety.
B
There
are
more
fatalities,
more
energy
injuries
in
these
census
tracts
compared
to
others,
and
then
we
can
dig
deep
into.
Why
is
it
engine
some
aspect
of
engineering
of
those
roadways
and
nor
I
just
learned
about
this?
About
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
we
can
look
at
tree
canopy
and
compare
the
tree
canopy
in
these
364
census
tracks
compared
to
the
Region's
13.
E
B
And
if
it's
different,
we
can
start
asking
why
and
we
answer
that
then,
then,
how
so
that's
the
major
focus
is
looking
at
this
I
call
it
an
acupuncture
chart
of
equity.
It's
about
10
percent
of
the
Region's
land
mass,
but
30
percent
of
the
population
lives
in
these
relatively
more
dense
census,
tracts
and
making
sure
that
they're
connected
to
these
really
nodes
of
Opera
nodes
of
opportunity
that
that's
where
that's
where
it
begins.
D
And
it's
really
interesting
that
you
say
that
because
I'm
now
working
on
my
company
we're
working
on
equity
in
terms
of
capital
planning-
and
we
do
exactly
the
same
thing
in
terms
of
schools
and
we're
doing
this
in
Boston
and
Denver
and
Boston
and
other
places.
D
So,
for
example,
in
Sacramento
we
did
a
fairly
straightforward
plan
and
there
were
two
types
of
development.
One
was
exceptional
and
one
was
normal.
Typically,
School
planning
has
been
done
around
enrollment
growth
and
capacity
needs
and
around
conditions
of
buildings.
Recently
it
looked
much
more
at
educational
adequacy.
How
does
it
meet
the
needs
of
the
school
district
and
the
vision
for
teaching
and
learning
and
then
adding
in
the
these
issues
of
equity
and
how
so
in
Sacramento,
as
I
was
saying?
D
Most
of
it
was
done
a
more
traditional
way,
but
these
areas
were
identified,
of
special
need
and
exceptions
to
to
low-income
neighbors
are
getting
brand
new
schools
where,
under
the
old
way
of
looking
at
things,
they
wouldn't
have
done.
And
you
know
schools
are
huge
centers
of
community
and
they
Foster
Community.
They
create
economic
growth
in
the
community.
They
make
communities
feel
great
about
themselves
because
an
investment
is
being
made
in
them
and
the
spin-off
is
huge.
D
So
I
would
like
to
see
Arlington
start
to
think
that
way,
and
as
we
look
for
sites
for
schools,
those
would
be
the
sort
of
neighborhoods
where
I'd
want
to
look
first
and
the
other
evidence
we
know
is
that
low-income
families
really
want
their
kids
close
to
home
because
it
makes
their
lives
easier
to
manage
and
it
allows
them
to
take
more
part
in
their
kids
education.
If
they're
working,
two
jobs,
they're
on
public
transit
they're
going
away,
they
want
their
children
as
close
to
home
as
possible.
B
If
I
could
just
pick
up
on
that
the
the
capital
Improvement
program,
this
is
a
case
where
Montgomery
County
has
codified
a
look
at
Equity
emphasis
areas
into
things
like
the
capital
Improvement
program
in
these
census
tracts.
The
capital
program
must
have
proportional
investment,
Montgomery
County,
they
have
a
green
bank
and
they
say
that
20
percent
of
all
the
investments
from
this
green
Bank
in
the
county
must
be
in
these
Equity
emphasis
areas.
Think
about
things
that
are
more
even
more,
perhaps
mundane
or
matter
of
fact.
Montgomery
County
has
a
shovel
our
sidewalks
act.
B
Oh
well,
what's
that
well
that
these
census
tracts
need
from
a
county
perspective,
need
to
have
their
sidewalk
shoveled
first
well.
Well,
why
is
that?
Well,
there's
a
correlation.
The
census
tracts
have
a
population
that
is
less
car,
dependent,
more
public
transportation
dependent
if
they're
going
to
get
to
that
Transportation
need
to
make
sure
that
the
sidewalks
are
are
shoveled.
So
here's
one
case,
I
know
when
I
talk
about
Maryland
County,
that's
doing
something
really
well,
it
really
makes
the
arlingtonian's
blood
boil,
but
I
think
I'm.
His
Equity
emphasis
there
is
Montgomery.
A
E
A
E
A
E
Equity
is
where
most
of
my
attention
is
focused
today,
both
in
the
classroom
and
in
work
that
I
do
with
other
local
governments,
and
what
I've
realized
is
that
we
don't
really
understand
it
very
well.
Most
we
in
Arlington
and
other
other
communities
that
are
progressive.
We've
just
been
liberal
people
with
good
intention
thinking
that
we
would
always
do
the
right
thing
and
not
being
analytical
about
it.
I'm,
not
really
questioning.
C
Say
that
I
don't
see
the
missing
middle
as
really
bringing
Equity
into
anything
the
amount
that
it
would
cost
to
build
a
lot
of
this
stuff
you
know
and
where
it
would
be,
doesn't
really
strike
me
as
getting
at
the
equity
I.
Think
personally,
there
will
be
a
lot
of
individuals
who
do
the
duplex
or
me,
maybe
even
a
Triplex,
because
it
fits
in
with
their
personal
need
or
something.
C
A
Well,
it
is-
and
you
know,
nor
you
bring
up
the
scale
of
what
is
projected
to
be
Redevelopment
that
occurs
in
the
missing
middle
form.
Is,
is
one
thing
I
think
you
know
there's
so
many
elements
of
this
conversation,
but
the
one
thing
that
I
think
we
can
absolutely
say
for
certainty
is
what
this
proposal
would
do
is
to
upend
what
has
been
the
Paradigm.
A
That
roughly
three
quarters
of
our
residential
land
is
only
and
exclusively
allowed
to
be
redeveloped
in
one
way,
and
this
would
provide
other
opportunities
and
whether
to
the
degree
that
those
opportunities
created
more
options
for
people
who
have
been
marginalized
or
hitherto
been
shut
out.
It
is
perhaps
a
step
forward
in
equity,
but
you're,
absolutely
right.
The
scale
of
what
is
proposed
is
not
going
to
make
ours
an
equitable
community
that
can
rewrite
the
injustices
of
the
past
for
sure,
but.
D
E
That's
why
I
say:
don't
let
it
get
away
from
you
if
you're
going
to
try
something
new,
try
it
but
don't
give
it
away
and
I
mean
one
of
the
risks
here
is
that
you
take
people
who
are
sitting
on
very
expensive
property
that
can
only
be
redeveloped
with
a
single
family
and
they
redevelop
it
into
something.
That's
two
or
three
and
they've
just
multiplied
their
wealth,
and
is
that
really
is
that
addressing
any
Equity
issue
whatsoever
or
just
making
wealthy
people
wealthier?
B
I
wonder
if
I
could
pick
John's
brain
on
this
or
you
were
talking
about
a
household
size
and
where
I'm
going
to
on
this
is
the
District
of
Columbia.
Now
has
about
700
000
people
and
there's
some
thought.
Oh,
you
know,
isn't
it
doesn't
it
feel
crowded
and
the
mayor
of
the
District
Columbia
has
a
goal
to
add:
36
000
new
units,
36
000
new
units
by
2025.,
but
a
700
000
people,
that's
less
than
the
district
had
at
its
apex.
It
had
800
000
people.
D
B
Following
kind
of
Ron's
logic
here,
if
the
only
option
is
to
build
redevelop
bigger,
where
does
that
leave
us,
whereas
the
proposition
that
Nora
was
talking
about
that
option
to
go
to
a
duplex
and
two
families
are
in
there?
So
I'd
be
interested
what
you
comment
on
household
size
and
how
that's
changed
changing
and
how
this
affects
this
question.
D
Well,
most
of
what's
been
built
in
DC
has
been
multi-family,
which
is
occupied
by
one
or
two
people,
and
very
few
children
and
the
DC
School
population
is
declining
as
far
as
I
know,
and
they
have
Charter
Schools
as
well
as
public
schools
so
and,
and
they
have
the
same,
a
problem
of
affordability,
just
just
like
Arlington
does
and
I
do
think.
There's
a
lot
to
be
said
for
the
duplexes.
Maybe
that's
where
Arlington
should
start
and
see
what
happens
then
you'll
be
fine,
but
but
I
agree
with
you.
A
Well,
we're
going
to
have
to
bring
this
to
a
close
only
because
the
time
is
nearing
the
time
where
we
said
we
would
let
you
go
not
because
I've
exhausted
every
dimension
of
this
conversation,
but
I
think
where
we
are
is
exactly
where
we
should
be,
is
an
understanding
that
you
know
the
the
term.
Unintended
consequences
are
often
used
by
decision
makers
to
absolve
themselves
a
responsibility
for
the
bad
stuff
that
occurs,
but
what
I
think
we
have
built
up
in
Arlington
over
the
years?
A
And
we
and
it's
it's
embedded
in
the
work
of
the
public
schools
and
in
the
region
as
well,
is
that
we
are
trying
to
Perfect
The
Art
of
planning
so
that
we
get
to
the
point
where
the
consequences
are
not
unintended.
We
get
what
we
plan
for,
and
we
have
effective
ways
to,
if
not
ensure
the
outcome,
to
win,
to
ensure
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
at
the
end
of
the
day,
having
to
sheepishly,
explain
away
a
series
of
unintended
consequences
that
better
planning
should
have
rightly
foreseen.
A
After
more
than
a
decade,
you
will
be
sorely
missed
and
I
think
you
all
could
see
why,
from
our
conversation
tonight
and
Nora,
one
of
Arlington's
treasured
residents.
Thank
you
so
much
both
for
your
your
personal
story
and
your
passion,
and
we
very
much
appreciate
everybody
for
joining
us
tonight,
and
we
appreciate
those
of
you
who
have
viewed
for
sharing
your
questions
and
offering
your
comments,
and
this
has
been
such
a
terrific
conversation.
A
I
hope
that
we've,
given
you
a
sense
of
how
planning
for
growth
and
perspectives
of
change,
influence
the
way
community
not
only
deals
with
circumstances
and
issues
today,
but
as
part
of
the
future.
As
a
reminder,
tonight's
session
was
part
of
a
series,
the
third
in
a
series,
the
first
dealt
with
housing
development
and
the
economic
considerations
they're
in
the
second
concern
the
history
and
the
future
of
zoning
and
housing
policy.
And
of
course,
we
now
have
tonight's
session
in
the
books
planning
for
growth.
A
Members
of
the
County
Board
are
also
during
the
month
of
October
hosting
a
series
of
community
conversations
and
to
learn
more
about
those
conversations
and
other
efforts
associated
with
missing
middle.
We
encourage
you
to
visit
our
website
where
you
can
find
a
copious
amount
of
information
related
to
this
topic.