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A
C
A
D
E
F
B
What
about
audio
camera.
H
E
B
D
E
E
Porsha
there
is
a
setting
in
my
version
of
microsoft
teams
under
the
more
actions
device
settings
where
I
can
adjust
the
microphone.
E
E
You
know
porsche
when
you're
speaking,
I
don't
hear
the
echo,
so
I
think
if
you
just
unmute
when
you're
speaking
and
you
when
you're
not
it'll,
probably
be
fine.
Okay,
the.
A
No,
it
was
supportive.
We
noted
that
we
don't
seem
to
hear
the
echo
when
she's
speaking,
it's
only
when
others
are
speaking
if
she
has
her
microphone
on
right.
So
for
now,
we've
just
asked
her,
like
all
the
others,
to
keep
their
microphones
off
until
they're,
ready
to
speak,
and
hopefully
that
will
minimize
the
issue.
B
All
right
all
right,
the
july
29
meeting
of
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
is
now
in
session
good
evening
and
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
arlington
board
of
zoning
appeals,
which
is
also
known
as
the
bza.
I
am
into
malice,
chair
of
the
board.
The
board
is
made
up
of
five
citizens
appointed
by
the
circuit
court.
In
addition
to
myself,
we
have
vice
chair
peter
owen
and
members
judy
freshman,
paul
melnick
and
our
newest
member
porsha
clark
tonight
is
miss
clark's
first
meeting
welcome.
B
Portia
also
present
is
the
professional
staff,
including
stephen
rizzi
coordinator
for
the
bza
cliff
hogan
assistant
to
the
zoning
administrator
blake
bowen
assistant,
zoning
administrator
mark
hamila,
zoning
technician,
jakay
mcneal
zoning
technician
and
pamela
banner
administrative
specialist
for
the
safety
of
our
board
members,
county
staff,
applicants
and
participating
community
members.
We
are
holding
a
virtual
meeting
today,
a
first
for
this
board.
B
B
The
staff
reports
for
each
case
on
tonight's
agenda
can
be
found
on
the
bza
website.
Staff
set
staff
has
also
placed
a
link
to
the
agenda
in
the
chat
session
of
this
session.
If
you
have
not
seen
the
report
for
your
case,
you
may
wish
to
review
it
before.
Your
item
is
called
the
board's
powers
are
prescribed
in
the
code
of
virginia
and
are
set
out
in
further
detail
in
the
county
zoning
ordinance
adopted
by
the
county
board.
B
The
board
of
zoning
appeals
does
not
have
the
power
to
rezone
property
or
to
amend
the
regulations
set
forth
in
the
ordinance
that
authority
rests
with
the
county
board.
This
board
does
have
the
authority
to
do
three
things.
We
can
approve
use
permits
that
allow
modifications
of
placement
requirements
for
structures
on
one
and
two
family
lots
where
there
is
no
option
in
the
zoning
ordinance
to
allow
such
modifications
we
can
grant
variances
from
the
specific
requirements
of
the
zoning
ordinance
and
three.
B
B
B
B
Next,
all
speakers
for
the
item
will
be
called
after
we
hear
from
the
speakers
for
and
against
the
proposal.
The
board
may
permit
the
applicant
to
a
brief
opportunity
to
clarify
any
points.
The
board
may
also
ask
questions
of
any
of
the
speakers,
but
does
not
permit
will
not
condone
any
cross-examination
or
direct
questioning
by
others.
B
20
minutes
for
applicants
of
appeals,
five
minutes
for
applicants
or
use
permit
variants,
applicants
for
use
permits
and
variances
three
minutes
for
speakers
representing
organizations
and
two
minutes
for
those
speaking
as
individuals
after
the
board
has
gathered
all
information
they
need
and
has
discussed
the
case.
It
will
decide
the
matter
by
voting
on
a
motion
duly
made
and
seconded
a
majority
is
needed
to
approve
an
emotion.
B
Now
I
would
like
to
orient
everyone
to
our
new
virtual
environment
and
to
cover
a
few
specifics
about
how
this
meeting
this
evening's
meeting
will
run.
Tonight's
meeting
is
available
to
stream
from
the
county
website
via
a
microsoft
teams
link.
There
is
also
a
dial-in
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it
if
board
members
presenters
or
speakers
lose
internet
connectivity.
B
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you
are
called
upon
turn
off
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference
for
guests
joining
us
here
via
teams.
Please
turn
off
your
video
feed.
Only
board
members
and
staff
will
leave
their
cameras
on
when
called
upon
to
speak.
You
must
unmute
yourself
by
clicking
on
the
microphone
icon
that
is
located
on
your
meeting
command
bar.
B
The
moderator
does
not
have
the
ability
to
unmute
you
if
you
are
dialing
in
by
phone
press
star
six
to
unmute,
the
meeting
chat
is
active
for
presenters
or
board
members
who
need
technical
assistance.
Only
the
meeting
chat
should
not
be
used
for
discussion.
Public
comment,
questions
about
agenda
items
or
requests
for
more
information.
B
All
public
comments
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record.
During
the
assigned
public
testimony
period
board,
members
will
be
asked
to
verbally
be
recognized
to
speak
on
the
item.
We
may
also
use
the
hand
function
if,
if
that
becomes
necessary
in
either
case
once
you
have
been
recognized,
you
may
unmute
yourself.
B
The
final
note
for
board
members
is
that
all
voting
today
will
be
taken
via
roll
call
to
applicants
and
public
speakers.
Public
speakers
and
applicants
will
be
called
upon
by
county
staff.
At
an
assigned
time.
Pre-Registration
to
speak
at
tonight's
hearing
was
required.
We
will
accommodate
any
additional
speakers.
Only
if
time
permits
public
comment
will
take
place
within
the
time
frame
stated
earlier,
the
same
as
we
would
provide
in
an
in-person
meeting
during
public
comment.
A
speaking
timer
will
be
displayed
on
the
screen
by
staff.
B
B
All
information
associated
with
today's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken,
is
subject
to
the
freedom
of
information
act
requirements
so
that
those
are
long
comments.
But
that
concludes
the
comments
and
we
are
ready
to
move
forward
with
the
agenda.
Mr
rissy,
please
call
the
first
item.
A
V-11567-20-Up-2
is
a
use
permit
request
by
cindy
and
oswaldo
may,
the
owners
permit
a
setback,
4.5
feet
4.1
feet
to
the
ease
from
a
proposed
detached
accessory
building
garage
to
an
existing
one.
Family
dwelling
instead
of
eight
feet,
five
feet
to
the
ease,
as
required
regarding
a
detached
accessory
building
garage
in
the
r6
zoning
district
premise,
known
as
1608
and
with
bryant
street
staff
recommends
that
the
board
adopt
the
attached
proposed
resolution,
granting
the
use
from
request
with
conditions.
A
B
Okay,
so
there
was
no
subsequent
application.
B
A
All
right
applicants
are
cindy
and
osbaldo.
Who,
may
you
guys,
can
turn
your
microphone
and
camera
on?
If
you
are
with
us,
their
agent
is
scott
freeman.
H
No,
it's
the
same
same
proposal
we
had
last
year.
We
have
no
material
changes
since
then.
E
V-11567-20-Up-2,
subject
to
the
conditions
listed
with
the
following
modifications:
replace
the
final,
whereas
clause
to
read,
whereas
the
bza
has
determined
that
the
modification
would
promote,
combat
compatible
development
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
that
the
structure's
overall
footprint
size
and
placement
are
similar
to
structures
and
on
properties
surrounding
the
lot
in
question,
and
the
proposal
would
help
preserve
the
net
natural
natural
landform,
historical
features
and
or
significant
trees.
E
In
addition,
replace
condition
number
one
to
read.
Applicants
agree
that
the
structure
addition
shall
be
constructed
in
accordance
with
the
footprint
shown
in
the
survey
and
the
architectural
drawings
attached
to
the
staff
report
dated
july
24,
and
that
no
enlargement
of
the
structure
or
addition
may
be
made
in
any
dimension
shown
on
the
plot
or
architectural
drawings,
to
keep
condition
number
two
to
read,
as
proposed
in
the
july
24
2020
staff
report
and
add
a
condition
number
three
to
read.
E
The
applicants
will
obtain
a
building
permit
to
construct
the
structure
permitted
herein
by
july,
24,
2023
or
by
six
months
after
the
end
of
the
arlington
county.
Continuity
of
government
ordinance,
whichever
occurs
first
for
this
use
permit,
is
null
and
void
again.
If
the
motion's
seconded
then
I'll,
explain
the
details.
E
K
Yes,
okay,
I
I
I
like
the
idea
of
having
a
date
certain
for
the
end.
I
think
that
eliminating
that
as
an
error,
I
like
three
years-
and
I
don't
really
see
the
reason
for
the
the
the
rest
of
the
phrase
regarding
the
county,
getting
rid
of
the
situation
we
now
have.
I
think
that's
just
such
a
moving
target
that
I
prove
I
will.
I
support
the
motion,
but
I
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
that's
necessary
if
we
have
a
three-year
deadline.
B
K
E
Sure,
first,
let
me
ask
unanimous
consent
to
modify
my
motion
simply
to
say:
applicants
will
obtain
a
building
permit
to
construct
the
structure
permitted
herein
by
july
24
2023.
B
Is
there
any
objection,
no
objection?
The
motion
has
been
modified.
E
Okay,
so
the
first
thing
is
the:
whereas
clause
this
application
is
an
older
application
before
staff
changed
the
standard,
whereas
clause
to
mirror
the
actual
code
language
for
the
finding
we
need
to
make
with
regard
to
compatibility
with
development
of
surrounding
properties.
E
So
I'm
replacing
that,
whereas
clause
with
the
current
condition
that
we
now
use
for
use
permits
with
regard
to
condition
number
one,
this
staff
report
proposes
a
brand
new
standard
condition
which
the
bza
has
never
previously
discussed
and
which
I'm
not
sure
does
everything
it
needs
to
do
so.
I'm
proposing
to
go
back
to
the
old
standard
condition,
number
one
and
then,
as
judy
mentioned,
as
mr
freshman
mentioned,
excuse
me
the.
E
I
think
it
is
prudent
to
continue
to
have
an
expiration
to
variances
and
use
permits
so
that
we
don't
have
zombie
unbuilt
permits
roaming
around
arlington,
and
I
recognize
that
the
county
board
ordinance
may
also
address
that
problem,
but
the
county
board
has
a
habit
of
changing
its
ordinance
without
checking
with
us
first,
and
so,
since
we
have
the
power
to
do
wealth
and
suspenders,
we
should
do
so.
That's
my
but
fundamentally
I
approve
renewing
the
motion.
I
think
this
should
be
a
since.
There
are
no
material
changes.
E
It
makes
sense
to
just
have
another
approval
here.
So
that's
my
motion
and
explanation.
B
Any
other
comments,
mr
rizzy,
do
you
feel,
like
you,
followed
the
the
motion
and
the
changes
that
mr
owen
proposed.
A
Madam
chair,
I've
discussed
with
mr
owen
that
he'll
be
sending
me
the
comments
in
written
form
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
E
I
B
A
The
owners
permit
an
average
building
height
of
38.32
feet
instead
of
35
feet
is
required
for
one
family
dwelling
in
the
r8
zoning
district.
Regarding
a
single
family
dwelling
in
the
r8
zoning
district
on
the
premise
known
as
2321
north
richmond
street
staff
recommends
that
the
board
attach
adopt
the
attached
proposed
resolution
approving
the
variants
with
conditions
and
I'd
like
you
to.
Please
note
that
there
is
supplemental
material
for
this
case
that
came
in
after
the
application
packet
was
assembled
and
printed.
B
Thank
you,
mr
any
questions
of
staff.
I
So
in
the
staff
report
I
didn't
see
anything
about
the
average
height
of
the
current
structure
and
I
don't
think
I
missed
that.
But
is
that
in
the
report
and
do
you
have
it
if
not.
A
I
E
The
the
application
filed
on
october
16
2019,
the
applicant
statement
and
parts
of
the
staff
report
referenced
requests
for
variance
relief
to
build
on
non-conforming
under
on
a
non-conforming
undersized
lot,
both
with
respect
to
square
footage
and
with
respect
to
width.
However,
neither
of
these
elements
were
part
of
the
final
staff
recommendation
and
apparently
in
the
advertisement,
has
the
applicant
sought
to
withdraw
a
request
for
variance
relief
to
build
on
a
lot
that
is
less
than
8
000
square
feet
and
less
than
70
feet
wide.
A
I
believe
that
the
applicant
has
provided
staff
with
the
necessary
materials
such
that
that
request
is
no
longer
necessary.
That
request
is
necessary
if
an
applicant
cannot
provide
material
showing
that
the
lot
was
created
in
its
current
configuration
before
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance
july
15
1950.
If
they
can
provide
that
information,
it
is
not
required.
E
So
is
there
variance
relief
pending
before
the
bza
for
for
either
of
those
elements?
No
it's
not
pending
and
we
don't.
We
don't
need
to
take
any
action
on
a
withdrawal
of
that.
No
okay,
man,
I'm
sure
I
have
an
additional
question
for
staff.
B
E
With
regard
to
the
comments
from
neighbors
section
of
the
staff
report,
the
staff
report
states
only
as
of
the
writing
of
this
report,
staff
has
not
received
a
signed
letter
of
support
from
neighboring
properties.
However,
the
packet
and
the
supplemental
material
that
you
sent
us
today
includes
numerous
written
statements
of
support
and
of
opposition,
some
from
the
time
of
the
december
hearing
and
some
from
some
subsequent
to
that
hearing.
My
first
question
is:
was
staff
expecting
a
signed
letter
of
report
from
neighboring
properties.
E
Okay
and-
and
my
other
question
was:
are
there
any
updates
to
the
summary
of
comments?
So
everything
that
you
are
aware
of
is
in
the
staff
report
or
in
the
supplemental?
Is
that
right.
A
Everything
that
I'm
aware
of
has
been
provided
to
the
board
either
in
the
packet,
which
does
include
the
letters
from
december
and
later,
as
well
as
the
supplements
sent
to
you
today.
Yes,.
L
E
I
was
also
curious
about
the
height
of
the
current
roof,
but
you,
mr
melnick,
has
already
asked
that
so
I'll.
Those
are
my
questions
for
now.
Thank
you.
Manager.
A
Applicant
is
for
sheed
and
shiva
kermanchi.
I
would
ask
that
if
you
guys
are
here
prosheet,
I
see
you
there
turn
on
your
microphone
and
video.
If
it's
available.
M
Yes,
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
kaishi
djekta,
my
wife,
shiva
karmanshi,
and
I
are
the
owners
of
the
lot
2321
north
richmond
street.
I
would
like
to
begin
by
sincerely
thanking
the
board
members
and
the
staff
for
the
efforts
and
time
spent
on
this
matter
and
for
creating
this
opportunity
for
us
to
speak.
M
With
your
permission,
I
would
like
to
jump
to
the
main
points
that
I
have
prepared
and
then
close
since
I
believe
you
have
the
full
schedule
tonight
so
main
point
number
one:
a
revised
plan,
as
requested
by
the
committee
last
time.
The
first
hearing
was
submitted
and
we
at
this
point
are
only
requesting
the
board
to
approve
or
consider
3.32
feet
and
height
versus
the
original
request
of
7.15
foot.
M
M
Point
number
four,
the
backdrop
or
slope
of
the
house
is
higher
than
any
other
house.
In
the
neighborhood
point.
Number
five:
the
water
management
will
improve
dramatically,
based
on
the
new
and
recent
county
protocols
and
technologies
available
and
as
it
has
not
been
managed
for
at
least
the
past
several
years.
M
So
it's
going
to
improve
dramatically
because
it
hasn't
been
managed.
The
height
of
the
building
will
not
adversely
affect
water
management
issues.
Point
number
seven,
based
on
our
very
unique
lot,
a
huge
slope
that
we
have
and
staff
recommendation
requests.
We
have
changed
architectural
plans
to
meet
the
standards.
Point
number
eight
we're
not
trying
to
change
the
characteristic
of
the
neighborhood
and
it's
not
for
the
better
of,
and
it's
for
the
better
of
the
neighborhood
and
it's
going
to
be
similar
to
the
newly
built
houses.
M
M
Point
number
10
we're
not
building
the
maximum
allowed
setback
in
the
back
of
the
property
because
of
the
challenges
due
to
the
present
higher
slope
that
it
has,
and
to
close,
I
would
like
to
thank
you
again
for
your
time
and
my
wife,
and
I
sincerely
appreciate
your
time
and
respect
your
decisions.
Thank
you.
I
Okay,
so
the
first
question
is:
it's
the
same
one
I
asked
the
staff.
Do
you
happen
to
know
what
the
average
height
of
the
current
structure
is
just
for
comparison.
M
I
And
what
efforts
can
you
you
know?
Can
you
let
us
know
what
efforts
if
any
you've
made,
you
know
to
bring
it
into
compliance,
because
it
looks
like
the
the
envelope
you
know
of
building.
You
know
building
restriction
lines
in
reference
to
the
zoning
codes
that
you've
messed
up
the
houses
within
those.
However,
what
is
keeping
you
from
you
know
just
taking
off
the
feet.
That
is
putting
you
above
the
35.
I
M
So
the
original
plan
that
we
had
submitted
it
was
37.
Instead
of
I'm
sorry,
it
was
7.15
feet
higher
than
what
we
are
proposing
now,
which
we
have
limited
the
roof.
Basically,
we
brought
it
down
to
make
it
a
flat
roof,
and
that
was
the
best
thing
that
we
could
possibly
were
able
to
possibly
do
and
we're
doing
really
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
it
meets
the
requirements.
M
And
you
know
we
have
had
several
meetings
with
the
architect
and
mr
mateen
civil
engineer,
and
this
was
the
best
plan
that
we
could
come
up
with.
I
M
I
believe
that's
the
question
for
mr
mateen,
but
from
what
I
understand
the
the.
If
we
lower
that,
then
the
main
building
of
main
floor
would
go
down.
G
M
The
parking
as
a
result
will
have
to
have
a
slope
and
the
water
issue
is
going
to
be
a
problem,
so
that
was
the
reason
that
we
did
our
best
to
level
the
main
to
bring
the
main
level
to
the
level
of
the
street.
So
there
are
no
water
issues.
A
Madam
chair,
we
didn't
have
any
speakers
sign
up
ahead
of
time.
I
will
note
that
we
do
have
some
neighbors
who
have
joined
the
meeting,
who
have
supplied
written
comment.
Who
may
choose
to
speak
if
you
give
them
the
time.
N
I
I'm
the
homeowner
at
2325
north
richmond
street,
which
is
directly
to
the
side
of
of
the
proposed
property
building
of
mr
yatka.
Okay,
you
me,
I
think
one
of
the
main
concerns
of
the
community
is
that
when
we
we
left
the
meeting,
I
believe
it
was
at
the
end
of
december.
N
It
was
promised
to
us
that
part
of
the
reason-
the
reason
for
the
amount
of
time
between
now
and
between
then
and
when
we
were
going
to
resume
this
meeting
was
so
that
the
the
property
owner
at
23,
21
or
whatever
it
is
it
that
he
was
going
to
meet
with
the
neighbors.
He
was
going
to
tell
us
what
he
had
planned.
N
We
were
going
to
have
a
discussion
he's
going
to
check
with
tree
experts
and
drainage
experts,
so
that
we
could
understand
what
was
going
to
happen
in
the
back
of
the
house,
as
well
as
the
front
of
the
house,
and
none
of
the
neighbors
anywhere
were
ever
consulted
or
spoken
with,
so
we
feel
like
we
were
just
ignored.
We
have
serious
concerns
about
this
property
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
that
you
know
he
did
his
part
as
well
as
we
do
we're
doing
our
part.
N
So
we're
we're
a
neighborhood
that
has
existed
for
many
years,
we're
very
happy
here.
We
have
a
wonderful
little
woods
behind
our
houses
with
little
little
animals
living
there
happily
and
and
we
we
don't
want
to
see
everything
destroyed
and
a
lot
of
drainage
going
downhill.
O
J
Immediately
next
to
the
affected
address
2317
north
richmond
street
okay,
mr
jackson,
go
ahead.
Yes,
I
just
want
a
second.
What
kathleen
adams
just
spoke
to
you
about
I'd
also.
I
know
it's
not
possible
to
direct
a
question
to
mr
yecta
in
this.
In
this
format,
however,
he
made
a
a
spoken
statement
that
said
that
all
of
the
problems
with
water,
drainage
and
potential
erosion
will
be
addressed
because
of
some
new
system
that
will
be
installed.
J
M
Yes,
sir,
so
when
I
was
told
to
originally
go
to
neighborhood
to
request
letters,
I
have
done
that
and
respectfully
extremely
respectfully,
my
wife
and
I
and
but
unfortunately
we
were
treated
very
in
a
respectful,
disrespectful
manner.
Mr
adams
told
us
that
you
know
if
we
build
a
house,
his
taxes
are
going
to
go
up.
M
The
house
across
the
street
told
us
that
they
can't
watch
the
fireworks
if
we
drove
the
house,
but
the
the
gentleman
to
the
right
of
us
told
us
he
agreed
to
write
the
recommendation
letter.
He
did
give
it
to
us,
but
later
he
took
it
back
and
I
strongly
believe
that's
because
of
the
neighbors
that
were
talking
to
each
other,
but
no
matter
the
case.
I
respect
their
decision
and
I
respect
them
as
neighbors,
and
you
know
when
I
spoke
with
my
attorney
after
that.
M
He
didn't
say
that
we
have
to
go.
He
he
casually
suggested,
and
you
know
it
just
didn't
happen
and
then
not
working
with
one
another.
So
I
I
was
not
aware
of
such
thing
that
I
had
to
meet
with
neighbors.
M
From
what
my
architect
told
me
that
they
were
extremely
nice
with
their
comments
and
what
was
their
concern
was
just
how
we
would
manage
water
that
would
go
down
there
down
the
you
know,
slow,
basically,
and
that
that's
pretty
much
all
I
know,
but
you
know
from
from
what
I
know
and
what
we're
planning
to
do,
the
water
management.
If
you
look
at
the
lot
in
there,
it's
like
jungle-
and
you
know
it
hasn't
been
managed.
M
M
G
M
Of
the
first
things
that
got
me,
I
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
that.
I
don't
appreciate
ears
because
you
know
they
bring.
They
bring
diseases
to
the
to
the
neighborhood
and
ticks,
and
if
there
are
kids
around
you
know
that
could
be
dangerous
and
many
other
things
that
I
worry
about.
But
you
know
we,
we
respect
everyone's
decisions
and
the
board's
decision.
You
know,
I
honestly
have
no
other
comments
on
that.
B
Okay,
hang
on
hang
on
a
sec,
let
let
you're
another
you're
another
neighbor.
That
wishes
to
speak.
Yes,
okay,
and
what
is
your
address.
Q
B
P
Yes,
we
we
built
our
house
in
2015
after
replacing
a
home.
That
looks
a
lot
like
the
one
that
we're
talking
about
and
we
have
a
tall
home
and
had
no
variances
to
build
our
house,
and
so
my
question
to
the
owners
has
been
all
along,
as
was
asked
first
to
staff.
P
What
what
can
you
do
to
try
to
bring
this
within
the
height
restriction?
And
we
actually
are
people
who
like
to
watch
the
fireworks
from
our
roof?
But
I
will
tell
you
that
the
tree
line
prevents
us
from
doing
that,
so
taking
the
trees
down
actually
helps
us
see
the
fireworks,
although
I
would
prefer
the
trees
stay
where
they
are.
P
But
my
point
really
is
the
the
property
something
needs
to
change.
The
property
needs
to
be
rehab,
it
needs
to
something
needs
to
happen
to
it,
and
these
two
folks
bought
the
property,
knowing
what
the
property
looks
like
and
knowing
that
it
had
a
steep
slope
in
the
back
and
therefore
would
limit
the
kind
of
building
that
was
going
to
be
able
to
be
put
on
that
property.
P
We
actually
looked
at
that
property
to
purchase
it
while
still
owning
the
property
we
live
in
and
talk
to
a
builder,
and
the
builder
said
that
property
is
not
going
to
be
useful
because
of
the
deep
slope
in
the
back.
So
being
able
to
get
money
back
out
of
that
property
was
something
that
we
didn't
think
that
we
was
was
profitable
for
us.
P
Now,
to
my
last
point,
and
and
this
this
may
be
leading
to
some
animosity
that
the
owners
might
be
feeling-
and
that
is
that
we
have
been
told
from
the
start,
that
these
two
are
the
the
homeowners
were
not
planning
on
living
in
this
home
that
they're
developing
it
to
sell,
and
the
idea
was
to
ideally
sell
it
to
someone
who's
coming
here
for
amazon.
B
I'm
sorry,
let's
we'll
speak
one
at
a
time,
we'll
give
you
an
opportunity
to
speak
but
wait
to
be
recognized.
Q
Yeah,
so
I
commented
sent
in
a
letter
at
the
december
bza
as
a
as
one
of
the
two
homes:
that's
downhill
from
this
property
and
downhill
frankly
from
all
the
properties
on
richmond
the
amount
of
water
that
comes
down
that
hill
onto
the
properties
that
face
25th
street
is
really
it's
just
astounding.
I
provided
a
video
at
the
december
event
to
show
how
my
my,
how
my
yard,
floods
at
times
of
you,
know
severe
rain
activity.
Q
Mr
yecta
has
not
come
down
to
talk
to
me.
I
would
you
know
I
would
have
welcomed
that
conversation.
Q
My
concern,
as
I
stated
previously,
is
that
by
expanding
the
back
of
the
house,
which
he
of
course
has
every
right
to
do
even
without
a
variance,
you
know,
there's
just
going
to
be
less
less
ground
space
to
absorb
some
of
that
runoff
and
it's
all
going
to
head
towards
my
property
and
my
neighbor's
property,
and
you
know
it
I
mean
yes,
just
like
he
bought
a
property
that
has
the
tremendous
slope
on
it.
Q
I
brought
a
bought
a
property,
that's
downhill
from
a
bunch
of
higher
graded
properties,
but
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
some.
You
know
earnest
efforts
to
try
to
mitigate
and
address
the
concerns
of
neighbors,
who
have
a
legitimate
reason,
as
as
the
climate
changes
to
be
worried
about
the
the
the
runoff
impacts
on
associated
properties
from
development.
Q
Above
I've
read
lots
of
comments
from
people
who
have
been
through
this
exact
same
scenario,
and
they
end
up
with
you
know
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
of
mitigation
on
their
own
property
that
could
have
been
handled
by
by
the
original
by
the
owner
from
which
the
runoff
is
coming.
So
you
know
I
I
continue
to
have
that
concern,
and
I
would
hope
that
if
this
development
goes
forward
that
he
would
work
in
earnest
with
us
to
try
to
mitigate
those
effects.
B
I
Yeah,
so
I
was
you
know,
I
hear
what
has
been
said
about
water
mitigation,
but
what
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
focus
on
is.
It
seems
to
me
if
this
thing
was
had
a
it
was
in
compliance
as
far
as
height
that
he
wouldn't
even
need
in
his
experience
for
one
thing
and
I'd
like
to
ask
the
applicant,
if
whether
the
applicant
has
considered
stepping
the
house
like
stepping
the
structure
so
that
the
average
height
you
know
would
go
down
that
way.
I
I
M
Sure
to
be
to
be
completely
honest,
we
have
thought
about
it,
but
we
it
didn't.
It
wasn't
considered
seriously
because
it
minimizes
the
space
inside
the
house.
The
house
is
already
so
narrow
and
you
know
we.
M
We
are
really
doing
our
best
to
work
with
the
size
that
we
have
in
our
eight
zone
and
for
that
reason
we're
really
doing
our
best
to
come
up
with
a
reasonable
size
house
that
that
we
can
build,
and
you
know
we
will
be
more
than
happy
to
work
with
the
nice
neighbors
that
are
around
us
as
long
as
you
know,
we
don't
get
respected
disrespected
as
we
were
disrespected
in
the
beginning.
M
We
will
do
our
best
to
make
sure
every
effort
is
done
to
to
do
that
and
if,
if
it
was
noticed,
I
mentioned
that
the
water
management
is
I'm
a
very
picky
man.
I
you
know,
I
would
like
to
make
sure
everyone
is
happy.
That's
exactly
what
I
told
when
I
first
met
with
every
neighbor
that
I
will
do
my
best
to
make
sure
everyone
is,
but
in
turn
I
was
treated
very
disrespectfully
and
I
did
not
make
a
comment
that
who
I'm
gonna
sell
this
house.
M
The
house
is
not
even
built
or
you
know
we
haven't
come
up
with
the
final
design
or
it
is
a
final
design
if
it
does
get
approved.
But
you
know
it's
not
finalized
in
any
way
possible.
So
I
you
know-
and
I
did
not
make
a
comment
who
I'm
going
to
sell
it
to
or
if
the
amazon
is
going
to
come
in
and
buy
or
or
anything
like
that.
M
So
I
don't
appreciate
these
kind
of
comments
and
I
really
I
I
would
like
to
really
get
it
out
of
my
heart
that
you
know
this.
This
lot
is
a
very
rare
lot
in
arlington
county
and
I'm
sure
you
will
agree
with
me.
The
house
that
you
know
in
the
the
you
know,
not
not
mr
adams,
but
the
one
after
just
made
a
comment
that
we
they
did
not
need
a
variance.
M
Well,
their
height
of
the
house
is
lower
than
ours,
so
that
you
know
is
going
is
going
to
make
a
huge
difference.
We're
only
right
now
requesting
three
feet.
Three
points
some
feet,
but
you
know
what
this
this
statement
that
they
made
is
not
sound
to
me
and
that's
because
they're
they're
down
the
hill-
and
you
know
the
height
of
their
backyard-
is
not
the
slope
that
they
have
is
not
as
steep
as
ours.
M
K
Yeah
I
wanted
to
just
I
am
concerned
about
the
runoff
issue
and
I
understand
that,
if,
if
they
weren't
coming,
if
they
were
building
within
the
parameters
that
are
don't
require
board
approval,
then
we
wouldn't
have
a
chance
to
comment.
But
since
they
are,
I'm
wondering
maybe
stephen
can
answer.
Is
there
anything
in
the
approval
process
that
or
in
the
permitting
process
that
addresses
runoff
on
a
lot,
which
obviously
has
it
even
if
we
didn't
have
the
neighbors?
Testifying
to
that?
I
that
I
find
much
more
concerning
than
three
feet
of
height.
A
So
to
answer
the
question,
any
property
like
this
that
is
going
to
develop
more
than
2500
feet
of
land
area
will
be
required
to
get
a
landing
disturbance.
Activity
permit
from
the
department
of
environmental
services
and
des
is
the
department
that
will
review
the
plans
to
make
sure
that
they
meet
the
stormwater
one-off
regulations.
L
I'm
I'm
bill
chantal,
I'm
a
neighbor.
I
wonder
if
I
could
make
a
quick
comment.
B
L
Here
it
is
quickly
my
my
concern.
L
Sure
2324
north
richmond
street,
I'm
diagonally
across
from
the
property
in
question.
My
concern
really
is:
is
the
height
to
me.
It's
not
just
that.
It's
three
feet:
it's
the
precedent
we
set
by
making
an
exception.
The
next
developer,
down
the
line
may
say:
okay,
well,
you've
made
an
exception
for
this
developer.
L
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chantal.
Mr
mr
roosey,
this
is
a
variance,
and
so
it's
up
to
the
applicant
to
to
make
the
case
why
there
there
is
a
hardship
for
this
site.
A
On
the
issue
of
hardship
staff
wrote
that
the
granting
of
the
variants
would
alleviate
a
hardship
due
to
the
physical
condition
of
the
land
that
existed
upon
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinance.
The
lot
is
topographically
challenging
due
to
the
grade
change,
24
feet
from
the
front
to
rear
building
wall
38
feet
from
north
richmond
street
to
the
lowest
point
on
the
subject:
property
and
the
non-conforming
lot
width
per
the
july
15
1950.
I
I
The
hardship
because
I'm
just
not
convinced
about
you,
know
the
you
know,
efforts
that
have
reasonably.
You
know
that
that
could
reasonably
be
made
to
try
to
bring
this
into
compliance
yeah.
We
are
talking
about
a
little
bit
over
three
feet
of
height
and,
like
I
was
saying
you
know
even
a
step
design.
O
I
I
E
I
also
largely
agree
with
mr
melnick,
and
I
I
also
want
to
echo
ms
freshman's
comments.
You
know
the
disappointing
thing
here
is
well.
First
of
all,
let
me
say
a
couple
other
things.
E
E
This
is
a
hard
case
because
we
have
to
find
you
know
the
things
that
mr
melnick
and
mr
risty
were
talking
about.
We
also
have
to
make
a
finding
that
granting
the
variants
will
not
be
of
substantial
detriment
to
adjacent
property
and
nearby
properties
and
proximity
to
that
geographical
area,
and
you
know,
I
don't
think
it's
an
accident
that
the
state
law
requires
us
to
make
that
finding
that
the
county
code
requires
us
to
make
that
finding.
E
I
believe,
as
well,
because
steep
grade
is
a
is
a
classic
reason
to
get
a
variance,
but
steep
grade
is
also
a
common
problem
that
might
lead
to
things
like
runoff
and
they
go
hand
in
hand,
and
I
think
the
state
recognized
that-
and
this
would
be
a
much
it
would
be
much
easier
to
make
the
finding
that
there's
no
detriment
to
it.
Neighboring
properties,
if
the
neighbors
and
the
applicant
had
been
able
to
talk
and
agreed
that
the
mitigation
was
better
than
right,
but
that
conversation
seems
not
to
have
happened.
E
E
So
I
think
the
applicant's
correct
that
we
cannot
and
do
not
require
communication
with
neighbors,
but
when
it
doesn't
happen
successfully,
it
makes
our
decision
harder
to
judge
for
ourselves
what
is
or
isn't
reasonable
or
whether
the
applicant
has
or
has
not
made
its
presentation,
and
I
guess
I
would
also
say
that
the
application
did
not
come
with,
for
example,
several
pages
of
additional
material
and
water
runoff.
E
That
has
existed
for
decades
and
in
the
other
application.
Staff's
analysis
was
that.
L
E
There's
an
existing
habitable
house:
that's
existed
for
decades.
That's
part
of
the
reason
we
shouldn't
need
to
grant
a
variance,
but
for
this
one
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
case.
So
I
I
don't
think
that
state
law
requires
us
to
grant
a
variance
so
that
everybody's
house
is
just
as
grand
as
the
next
door
neighbors.
They
allow
us
to
grant
a
variance
if
only
an
unreasonably
small
house
could
ever
be
built
there,
and
I
don't
think
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
standard.
E
Let's
see
here,
I
move
that
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
adopt
the
attached
proposed
resolution
modified
to
be
a
resolution
of
denial,
denying
variants.
E
Add
a
new
third
warehouse
clause
finding
as
follows:
whereas
the
bca
finds
that
the
granting
the
variants
would
not
alleviate
a
hardship
due
to
physical
condition
relating
to
the
property
or
improvements
thereon
which
existed
prior
to
upon
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinance
and
in
the
what
then
becomes
the
fifth,
whereas
clause
find
that
the
granting
of
a
variance
will
be
detrimental
to
adjacent
properties
and
adjust
the
resolved
clause.
To
read
now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
bza
hereby
denies
variance
case
number.
B
Thank
you,
mr
melnik.
The
motion
has
been
made
by
mr
owen
seconded
by
mr
melnick,
mr
rizzi.
Do
you
follow
the
motion
language.
B
All
right,
the
motion
is
to
deny
this
variance.
I
will
call
the
role
mr
owen.
E
I
D
B
B
Staff,
I
believe
one
of
the
issues
was
that
the
measurements
would
be
reconciled.
Did
that
happen.
A
My
understanding
is
all
the
issues
have
been
reconciled
as
far
as
the
advertised
dimensions,
okay,.
A
G
I
am
here
yes
and
I
do
need
to
do.
I
need
to
turn
my
video
on.
G
Okay,
that's
fine,
I
mean
I
can,
but
I
I
think
the
only
comment
I
wanted
to
make
is
that
we're
just
matching
the
the
design
of
the
original
shed
and
to
match
the
look
of
the
house,
and
it
will
be
roofed
sloping
only
toward
the
neighbors.
O
If,
if
I
could,
I
would,
I
would
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
just
speak.
This
is
your
name.
This
is
jason
hamm,
I'm
one
of
the
owners
of
1038
south
17th
street,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
just
to
speak
before
the
board.
O
Again,
I'm
going
to
not
address
the
rationale
for
requesting
the
permit
or
an
overview
of
how
the
structure
is
consistent
with
similar
structures
throughout
the
neighborhood
or
the
history
of
our
engagements
with
with
the
neighborhood,
because
that's
all
been
addressed
in
previous
appearances
before
the
board,
but
just
to
note
that,
during
during
the
last
hearing
at
which
this
proposal
was
put
forward,
the
board
was
on
the
verge
of
approving
it
when
it
was
recognized
that
there
was
this
discrepancy
between
what
was
in
the
staff
package
and
what
was
in
the
schematics,
as
has
already
been
noted
that
that
has
been
addressed
in
this
round.
O
So
we're
very
hopeful
that,
given
that
this
discrepancy
is
now
addressed,
that
the
board
is
ready
to
approve
this,
so
that
we
can
move
forward
on
a
structure
that
will
be
enormously
helpful
to
us
in
our
bicycle
commuting
around
arlington.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
noticed
a
discrepancy,
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
a
typo,
but
this
you
know
on
the
staff
report.
It
mentions
a
separation
of
3.5
feet
between
the
main
building
and
the
accessory
building,
but
then
the
diagrams
that
class
one
show
three
three
feet.
Six
inches
so
says
steve
is
that
you
know.
Should
the
staff
report.
B
Very
good:
are
we
ready
for
a
motion.
B
K
K
Yes,
I'm.
I
just
would
like
to
say
that
I
have
always
had
difficulty
with
this
project
and
I
understand
that,
certainly
from
the
applicant
who's,
assuming
it's
going
to
be
approved,
that
that
may
be
true.
But
it's
I
just
have
never
felt
comfortable
with
it
and
felt
like
it
was
excessive
structure
on
the
property.
E
I
think
that
this
has
been
a
very
difficult
case.
It's
take.
It's
taken,
multiple
applications.
This
applicant
got
a
denial
on
a
previous
application
that
was
similar.
E
E
Perhaps
of
you
know,
people
wonder:
do
the
neighbors
have
a
veto
over
my
proposal
and
I
don't
think
that
they
do,
but
when
the
neighbors
still
object,
there's
you
know
a
lot
more
that
an
applicant
needs
to
say
in
order
to
get
over
the
finish
line
so
and
I'll
also
note
that
the
the
sloping
of
the
shed
roof
to
me
isn't.
E
It
is
one
of
several
important
elements
of
this
that
leads
to
me
being
willing
to
vote
yes
on
the
project,
and
so
I
think
that
the
if
there
is
a
motion
to
approve,
I
will
offer
condition
language
that
ensures
that
the
slope
of
the
roof
is
required
by
the
conditions.
E
To
make
a
mistake,
I'm
sorry
miss
clark.
E
E
The
applicants
agree
that
the
structure
addition
shall
be
constructed
in
accordance
with
the
footprint
shown
in
the
survey
and
the
architectural
drawings
attached
to
the
staff
report
dated
july
24
2020,
and
that
no
enlargement
of
the
structure
addition
may
be
made
in
any
dimension
shown
on
the
platter,
architectural
drawings,
to
keep
condition
number
two
as
to
read,
as
proposed
in
the
july
24
2020
staff
report
and
to
add
an
additional
condition.
Number
number
three
to
read.
The
applicants
will
obtain
a
building
permit
to
construct
the
structure
permitted
herein
by
july.
B
B
Too,
okay,
the
motion
has
been
made
by
mr
owen
seconded
by
mr
melnick.
I
will
read
the
role:
it's
a
motion
to
adapt
the
use
permit.
Mr
owen.
E
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
ham
and
and
consultants.
L
B
Thank
you,
mr
risley.
Will
you
call
the
next
item.
A
It
is
a
variance
request
by
herschel
mechadeva,
I'm
sorry,
the
owner
to
permit
a
total
lot
coverage
of
63.5
instead
of
45,
as
required
for
one
family
dwelling
without
a
qualifying
front,
porch
or
rear
detached
garage
in
the
r5
zoning
district.
Regarding
a
new
single
family
dwelling
on
a
vacant
lot
in
the
r5
zoning
district
premise
known
as
1002
south
queen
street
staff
recommends
that
the
board
adopt
the
attached
resolution,
granting
the
variance
with
conditions.
B
E
I
do
not
have
any
questions
of
staff,
but
I
would
note
that
this
variance
has
an
associated
use
permit
where
staff
has
has
not
recommended
approval
of
all
the
elements.
And
so
I
would
recommend
that
the
bza
proceed
by
holding
the
hearing
on
the
variance
suspending
a
motion
on
the
or
not
taking
any
motion
on
the
variance
until
it
has
also
held
the
hearing
on
the
use
permit
and
then
consider
both
the
use
permit
and
the
variance
together
so
that
the
emotions
can
be
reconciled.
B
F
Thank
you.
Yes,
I've
been
working
on
my
request
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
for
this
moment,
so
I'm
a
little
nervous.
So
thank
you
all
the
members
of
the
board
and
staff.
Thank
you
for
having
us
here
this
evening,
I'm
harshly
mahadeva
on
the
line.
I
also
have
pal
kimani
we've
been
noah
residents
for
the
past
11
years
of
which
arlington
was
a
home
for
the
last
seven
years.
F
We
have
loved
being
a
part
of
the
arlington
community
and
it
would
be
a
blessing
for
me
and
my
family
to
be
able
to
set
roots
here
where
we
can
support
both
our
kids
and
our
parents
in
their
old
age,
as
as
mr
reese
mentioned,
I
call
out
that
I
have
a
readings
and
a
used
permanent
application.
So
in
case
you
don't
see
a
piece
of
material
that
I'm
referring
to.
You
will
be
able
to
find
it
with
the
package
with
the
next
course.
I'm
planning
to
not
talk.
E
The
the
speaker
is
speaking
quite
fast
and
with
no
video
to
help
me
read
lips,
I'm
having
a
little
trouble
understanding
the
speaker,
so
I,
if
the
speaker
could
either
turn
on
video
or
speak
more
slowly.
That
would
be
helpful
to
me.
B
Mr
modivia,
do
you
have,
are
you
on
the
phone
or
are
you
on
a
do?
You.
F
Speaking,
oh
I'm,
probably
speaking
through
the
phone
and
turning
on
through
the
video.
So
let
me
let
me
switch
forward
to
use
my
mic.
Hopefully
that
works
well.
All
right
can
folks
leave
me
yeah.
O
F
Okay,
great
I'll,
try
and
speak
a
little
more
slowly,
okay
guys,
so
I
wanted
to
call
it
again.
That's
I
have
both
obvious
and
use
comments,
so
in
case
you
don't
see
a
particular
piece
of
material,
I'm
referring
to
you'll
be
able
to
find
it
with
the
package
in
the
next
case
also,
but
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
related
questions
if
they
come
up
also
on
the
line,
I
have
our
architect.
F
Mr
steven,
mr
michael
stevens
in
case
there
are
questions
that
he
can
help
answer
so
now
a
bit
about
the
history
of
my
lots.
A
lot
in
arlington
is
an
undersized
lot
that
was
under
the
single
ownership
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
zoning
ordinance
in
1942.
F
The
lot
was
subject
to
condemnation
further,
reducing
the
size
of
the
lord.
By
about
50
percent
to
its
current
size,
which
is
about
2000
square
feet,
1948
square
feet
to
be
precise,
given
the
extremely
small
size
of
a
lot,
we
would
like
to
respectfully
request
a
variance
to
allow
for
a
lot
coverage
of
63.5
percent.
F
We
think
with
the
proposed
plans,
we
could
build
a
reasonable
house.
That
would
be
practical
in
terms
of
our
home
and
needs
with
the
approval.
Our
home
would
still
have
a
main
building
footprint
of
close
to
14.5
percent,
which
is
still
really
really
small,
as
compared
to
the
approved
34
for
other
homes
in
the
rfi
zoning
district
and
hence
would
not
be
a
detriment
to
any
adjacent
properties.
F
The
next
thing
I
wanted
to
cover
is
a
small
call
out
that,
while
you
may
also
see
an
rp
line
on
a
property
we
currently
are
not
in
the
rpa
zone.
This
is
due
to
the
fact
that
a
culvert
was
built
in
2015,
as
confirmed
by
thai
asphalt
from
the
department
of
environmental
services,
and
you
may
also
find
this
con
confirmation,
through
the
email
correspondence
I've
attached
with
my
application.
F
With
regards
to
neighbor
outreach,
we
have
had
an
overwhelming
support
from
our
neighbors
as
a
part
of
the
outreach
we
have
not
only
reached
out
to
all
our
adjusted
neighbors,
but
also
other
neighbors
on
the
block
I
have
attached
with
my
application.
Six
signed
letters
of
support
from
my
neighbors
that
that
all
were
super
supportive
of
my
application.
F
Lastly,
we
have
been
very
involved
with
the
civic
association.
Since
the
past
year,
we
presented
twice
at
the
civic
association
meetings
to
explain
to
our
community
our
plans
of
building
a
house
on
our
undersized
lots.
F
We
received
a
lot
of
support
and
encouragement
from
the
members
who
unanimously
murdered
to
support
my
application
and
a
letter
from
the
president
describing
this
has
also
been
submitted
with
my
application
with
all
of
the
about
I'm
hoping
there
is
sufficient
support
for
our
quest
for
obedience
and
on
a
severely
undersized
lord,
and
we
hope
to
be
given
an
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
this
wonderful,
arlington
neighborhood.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
So
you've
probably
seen
the
staff
report,
where
you
know
they're,
saying
they're
objecting
to
how
close
this
stoop
is
the
rear,
stoop
and
also
the
air
conditioning
the
screened
air
conditions
and
they're.
Mentioning
that
you
know
that
five.
H
F
Yes,
for
the
rare
scoop
sorry
can
I.
F
For
the
rest
of
kind
of
like
I
wanted
to
mainly
clarify
that
that
is
a
slab
on
grade.
It's
not
something
that
you
would
be
building
higher
than
the
ground
level
at
all.
F
It
was
mainly
needed
to
have
a
solid
stepping
surface
outside
of
the
rear
door,
and
that
is
why
we
didn't
think
it
would
be
a
detriment
to
any
surrounding
properties,
but
if
that
is
something
that
the
staff
cannot
approve,
essentially,
I
think
that
is
something
that
was
required
by
the
building
code,
just
to
have
something
solid
to
step
upon,
and
we
are
fine
to
have
a
smaller
surface
to
step
upon
it
if
that
is
kind
of
like
what
the
staff
is
comfortable
with
for
the
ac
unit
itself.
F
Yes,
I've
investigated
a
bunch
of
different
ac
units
and
I
found
an
ac
unit
that
would
be
compatible
with
the
staff
recommendation
of
having
the
unit
at
1.8
feet.
So
I
would
be
comfortable
with
that
recommendation
as
well.
B
So
right
now
we
have
the
variance
before
us
and
if,
if
we're
ready
to,
we
can
have
mr
russi
call
the
use
associated
use
permit.
If
there
are
no
objections.
A
A
B
F
Yes,
I'd
love
to
okay,
so
for
the
youth
format,
given
I've
already
introduced
my
case
to
everyone,
let
me
jump
right
into
the
details
of
the
use
permit.
The
first
point,
I'd
like
I
would
like
to
bring
up
is
about
why
I'm
asking
for
these
exceptions,
given
that
I
have
an
extremely
undersized
lot.
My
design
required
me
to
ask
for
these
exceptions
in
order
to
be
able
to
build
a
reasonable
size
home
for
me
and
my
family.
With
my
application,
I
have
included
several
cases
based
at
back
reliefs.
F
F
Secondly,
I
would
love
to
speak
a
little
about
our
request
for
the
ac
units.
Again,
the
ac
units,
which
has
we
have
the
design
of
the
ac
units
on
the
side
of
the
property
which
would
allow
us
to
have
whatever
little
outdoor
space
we
have
for
on
the
rear
side,
where
our
daughter
could
click
also
reduce
any
kind
of
the
mechanical
hazard
around.
This
would
still
be
similar
in
nature.
F
To
other
structures
in
the
neighborhood,
so
as
an
example,
our
immediate
neighbor
has
a
raised
deck,
which
is
at
about
two
feet
from
a
property
line.
As
shown
on
the
survey
I
had
submitted
with
my
application,
you
were
requesting
for
a
similar
exception,
where
ac
unit
would
be
at
a
distance
of
1.6
feet
from
the
property
line.
F
Thirdly,
for
the
rear,
stop,
which
also
has
been
called
out
in
the
staff
report.
Again,
as
I
mentioned,
that
would
be
a
slab
on
crate
and
not
something
that
would
be
built
higher
than
ground
level,
so
we're
hoping
that
that
should
be
okay.
Given
it's
it's
just
going
to
be
a
foundation
where
you
could
be
stepping
outside
and
shouldn't
really
be
a
structure
that
was
actually
be
built.
F
The
next
thing,
I'd
love
to
share
is
a
few
initiatives
that
we
have
been
taken
on
our
end
to
be
good.
Arlington
citizens,
given
the
size
of
a
lot,
is
under
2500
square
feet.
While
we
are
not
required
to
go
through
the
storm
water
management,
we
have
worked
with
tires
for
from
des
and
modified
our
plans,
such
that
we
minimize
the
surface
runoffs,
also
a
reminder
that
we
are
not
in
the
rpa
zone,
as
I
previously
mentioned.
F
And
thirdly,
given
our
weekend,
lord
is
freaking
dumping
area
for
trash,
also
recognized
by
the
kanye
on
account
of
the
no
dumping
sign.
You
may
see
that
as
the
first
picture
of
post
in
my
application,
a
new
home
out,
there
would
definitely
complement
the
overall
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
make
it
more
beautiful.
F
Lastly,
to
conclude,
I
would
really
like
to
express
my
gratitude
to
the
board
for
the
flexibility
during
these
challenging
times
and
to
mr
steven
reese,
who
was
a
huge
help
to
us
throughout
this
process.
Thank
you
very,
very,
very
much.
We
would
not
be
able
to
get
without
all
your
guidance
and
help
and
really
really
appreciate
it
with
that.
I
hope
the
members
of
the
board
gives
a
chance
to
be
a
part
of
this
amazing
arlington
community,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Once
again,.
E
Yes,
ma'am
sure
do
I
understand
correctly
that
the
applicant
can
live
with
alternative
proposed
resolution,
one
which
is
approval
of
the
rear
stoop
at
five
feet
and
air
conditioners
at
1.8
feet?
A
I'll
leave
that
to
the
speakers
on
the
list
we
had
speakers
sign
up.
I
believe
we
heard
from
michael
just
before
we
got
started
this
evening,
so
if
he
would
like
to
speak,
I
still
he's.
I
see
he's
still
in
attendance,
go
ahead
and
turn
your
microphone
on
and
say
anything
you
may
like.
C
Good
evening,
everyone
it's
mike
stevens
project,
architect,
working
with
harshall
and
his
bride.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
I
don't
really
have
anything
to
add.
Mr
mr
harshal's
done
an
outstanding
job
and
I
think
people
need
to
hire
him
to
help
him
with
their
their
use,
permits.
C
A
great
guy
to
work
with
it's
been,
it's
been
a
pleasure,
so
I'm
just
going
to
sit
back
and
listen.
Thank
you.
E
E
Well,
no
doesn't.
B
B
B
E
E
But
I
just
wanted
to
also
say
that
this
is
an
extremely
difficult
site
and
the
application
was
incredibly
well
prepared
and
thorough,
and
the
neighbor
outreach
was
first
rate.
And
so
what
could
have
been
a
very
long
and
difficult
consideration?
I
think,
might
be
considerably
shorter
because
of
the
preparation
of
the
applicants.
K
I
So
I
wanted
to
echo
the
comments
have
been
made,
but
also
you
know.
I
appreciate
the
flexibility
of
the
applicant.
You
know
in
you
know,
accommodating
the
staff's
recommendations,
references
and
air
conditioning.
You
know.
So
that's
really.
It.
B
Thank
you.
Can
I
have
a
motion.
E
E
E
Architectural
drawings
provided,
however,
that
the
air
conditioner
location
will
be
modified
in
the
manner
prescribed
in
the
use
permit
adopted
by
the
bca
on
july,
24
2020
to
keep
condition
number
two
as
to
read
as
proposed
in
the
july
24
2020
staff
report
and
add
an
additional
condition.
Number
three
to
read.
The
applicants
will
obtain
a
building
permit
to
construct
the
structure
permitted
near
end
by
july,
24
2023,
where
this
variance
is
null
and
void.
B
F
B
All
right,
I
will
call
the
role
mr
owen.
E
I
B
E
B
B
E
I
move
that
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
adopt
the
attached
proposed
resolution
number
one
approving
use
permit
v-11523-19-up-1,
approving
the
rear
stoop
at
five
feet
and
air
conditioners
at
1.8
feet,
subject
to
the
conditions
listed
with
the
following
modifications:
replace
condition
number
one
to
read.
E
The
applicants
agree
that
the
structure
edition
shall
be
constructed
in
accordance
with
the
footprint
shown
in
the
survey
and
the
architectural
drawings
attached
to
the
staff
report
dated
july
24
2020,
and
that
no
enlargement
of
the
structure
addition
may
be
made
in
any
dimension
shown
on
the
plat
or
architectural
drawings,
provided,
however,
that
the
location
of
the
air
conditioners
must
conform
to
the
setbacks
hereby
approved
to
keep
condition.
Number
two
read
as
proposed
in
the
july
24
2020
staff
report
and
add
an
additional
condition.
Number
three
to
read.
E
B
E
B
B
K
N
N
K
L
A
V-11534-19-1
there's
a
variance
request
by
marty
aranovich
the
owner
to
commit
a
lot
coverage
of
49
instead
of
45,
as
required
for
one
family
dwelling
in
the
rfi
zoning
district.
Regarding
the
addition
of
stairs
and
deck
on
the
side
and
rear
of
the
home
in
the
r5
zoning
district
on
the
premise
known
as
867
north
avenue,
street
staff
recommends
that
the
board
adopt
the
attached
proposed
resolution,
denying
the
variance
a
proposed
alternative
resolution
has
been
provided
to
the
bzac
fit
to
approve
the
variants.
As
advertised
and
I'd
like
you
to.
A
K
A
E
B
Objections,
mr,
are
there
any
other
questions
of
staff.
B
O
E
So
the
staff
analysis
for
reasonableness
notes
that
a
single
family
dwelling
on
this
property
has
already
existed
for
79
years
and
suggests
that
that's
evidence
that
the
reasonableness
of
the
current
ordinance
restrictions
is
there
a
difference
that
I'm
I'm
missing
between
this
and
the
one
where
staff
was
recommending
approval
for
the
richmond
street
project.
E
A
I
don't
know
that
I
have
an
answer
to
your
question.
We
had
two
different
people,
write
two
different
reports
and
looked
at
the
analysis,
two
different
ways.
That's
all
I
can
say.
B
Yeah
that
one
actually
is
a
little
bit
of
an
angle,
but
I
think
it's
devices
I,
if
I
look
at
the
drawings
at
the
plate,
it
would
indicate
that
that
staircase
and
the
landing,
the
stair
that
the
staircase
and
the
railing
and
the
landing
is,
is
at
least
a
foot.
B
B
K
You
have
okay,
I
thought
there
was
another
shot
that
was
more
of
a
head-on
shot,
that
that
gives
you
a
better
idea
of
just
how
close
it
is
to
that
fence,
but
maybe
not.
A
E
K
A
B
I
I
didn't,
I
didn't
see
it
but
yeah
because
there's
a
deck
on
the
back
and
then
there's
the
staircase
and
landing,
and
I
assume
all
of
that
is
what
is
is
in
question
here.
B
All
right,
that's
fine!
Madam.
E
A
E
The
staff
reports
asserts
that
the
variance
for
lot
coverage
may
not
be
a
substantial
detriment
to
adjacent
property
owners,
as
the
proposed
structure
would
still
abide
by
both
the
main
building
footprint
square
foot
limitation
and
the
maximum
main
building
percentage.
For
the
lot,
however,
as
my
colleagues
have
just
discussed,
the
proposed
stairs
would
crouch
in
a
what
seems
for
the
neighborhood
unprecedented
way
on
the
left
side.
B
Okay,
mr
rissy,
would
you
call
the
applicant.
A
The
applicant
is
marty
aranovich
and
his
agent
is
alex
matthews.
If
either
of
you
guys
are
in
attendance,
please
go
ahead
and
turn
off
your
microphone
and
turn
on
your
camera.
If
you'd
like
to
speak
to
the
board.
A
G
B
Correct
and
the
applicant
did
not
appear-
is
that
correct
right
and
so
we
deferred
it
to
this
matter,
has
have
you
had
any
subsequent
conversation
with
the
applicant
about
the
hearing
tonight.
H
B
All
right,
let
me
ask
you
a
couple
other
questions.
Is
there
a
code
enforcement
action
on
this
site
at
this
time.
D
B
I'm
gonna
refer
to
ms
freshman,
who
has
some
questions.
B
I
have
a
motion.
Okay,
let
me
just
let
me
ask
a
couple
more
questions
and
then
I'll
get
to
you.
Okay,.
B
H
B
A
A
Feet
is
required
regarding
the
addition
of
stairs
and
deck
to
the
side
and
rear
of
a
one
family
dwelling
in
the
r5
zoning
district
on
the
premise
known
as
867
north
abigail
street
staff
recommends
that
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
adopt
the
attached
proposed
resolution,
denying
the
use
permit
request.
An
alternative
proposed
resolution
has
been
provided.
Should
the
board
see
fit
to
approve
the
use
permit
request
as
advertised,
and
I
would
like
you
to
please
note
that
there
is
supplemental
material
that
came
in
for
this
and
the
associated
variants
after
the
application.
B
E
B
White,
I'm
not
following
you:
where
are
you
you're
on
the
proposed
resolution
to
deny
the
variance
right?
Yes,.
E
So
so
I'm
happy
to
explain,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
hear
that
whether
this
objection
first.
E
So
in
the
fifth,
whereas
clause,
as
ms
freshman
pointed
out
earlier,
this
is
a
someone
who
built
first
and
asked
for
the
variance
later
and
if
they
had
been
requesting
the
variants
on
the
ground
that
it
would
be
a
hardship
to
have
to
tear
it
down,
then
we
would
find
that
they
created
the
hardship,
but
that's
not
their
claim.
Their
claim
is
that
their
lot
is
the
wrong
size,
and
so
they
need
to
have
this
because
their
lot's
the
wrong
size.
E
So
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
what
they're
claiming
a
small
lot
was
not
created
by
them.
They
have
a
small
lot
because
that's
the
way
it
was
created
by
the
powers
to
be
earlier.
However,
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
that
this
variance
would
be
detrimental
to
adjacent
properties,
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
finding.
We
should
make.
B
H
D
E
E
I
have
a
unanimous
consent
request
to
modify
one
part
of
it.
I
ask
unanimous
consent,
then,
in
the
second,
whereas
clause
we
add
the
following
before
the
final
period,
the
words
comma
and
the
modification
would
be
injurious
to
property
or
improvements
in
the
neighborhood.
B
Is
there
anything
else
miss
freshman?
You
have
your
hand
up.
K
E
B
A
The
next
item
is
case:
number
v
dash
one
one:
five,
three,
six
dash
nineteen
dash
up
one.
It
is
the
use
permit
request
by
brian
adam,
the
owner,
to
permit,
after
the
fact
approval
for
a
setback
of
five
feet
to
the
wall
of
an
existing
accessory,
detached
building
4.5
feet
to
the
east
from
south
arlington
ridge.
E
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
deferred
previously
was
to
obtain
additional
neighbor
feedback.
Is
staff
aware
of
any
additional
neighbor
feedback
that
the
applicant
has
obtained.
A
Staff
is
not
aware
of
any
additional
feedback
at
this
time.
Madam
chair,
if
I
may,
I
do
have
some
late
breaking
information
for
this
request.
B
A
K
K
Thank
you
and
all
of
that
I
will
move
for
deferral,
but
I
guess
my
my
concern
here
is
in
choosing
a
date.
Typically,
we
do
that,
but
I
think
that
it's
not
reasonable
for
this.
This
deferral
to
jump
the
line,
so
maybe
maybe
staff
can
tell
us
what
would
be
a
reasonable
date
when
we
might
be
close
to
caught
up.
A
Unfortunately,
I
I
don't
know
that
I
can
do
that
at
this
juncture.
We
haven't
yet
set
an
agenda
for
the
august
19th
hearing
as
it
stands.
The
august
12th
meeting
will
only
maybe
take
care
of
a
third
of
the
cases
that
we
have
outstanding.
It's
entirely
likely
that
it
will
be
september
or
october.
Before
we
catch
up.
Okay,
then
I
would.
E
K
E
Yes,
I
I
miss
freshman's
motion
does
not
have
a
second
and-
and
I
have
concerns
about
the
framing
of
it.
So,
let's
see
if
it
gets
a
second.
E
E
I'll
just
point
out
that,
because
this
is
an
already
built
shed,
the
incentives
for
the
applicant
are
different
than
it
would
be
if
they
were
trying
to
get
approval
for
something
they
had
not
yet
built
so
a
if,
for
example,
the
people
on
arlington
ridge
road
hate
this
and
wish
it
were
going
to
be
torn
down
a
long
deferral,
hurts
the
neighbors
and
helps
the
applicant.
E
So
if
our
concern
was
trying
to
get
quick
remedial
action
from
the
applicant,
then
a
short
deferral
might
be
more
appropriate
than
a
long
deferral.
So
I
just
I'm
not
sure
I
feel
super
strongly
about
this,
but
I
just
thought
I
would
point
that
out
in
case
ms
freshman
wanted
to
take
that
into
consideration.
I
I
think
that's
an
excellent
point.
You
know
and
there's
arguments
on
both
sides,
but
but
mr
o'neich,
that
is
an
excellent
point,
especially
when
we're
dealing
with
the
aesthetics.
I
You
know
and
neighbor
feedback,
and
what
I
wanted
to
ask
is
you
know
in
this
notion:
can
we
make
a
note
or
a
condition
you
know
about
what
we
want
next
time,
instead
of
just
saying
deferral,
you
actually
just
state,
you
know
that
we
do
want
to
see
more
neighbor
feedback
just
so
that
when
he
gets
us
feedback
what
happened
tonight.
You
know
that
he's
very
aware
of
that
that
this
is
what
we're
looking
for.
I
Yeah
but
but
I
think
we
ought
to
really
stress
so
he
knows
what
we're
looking
for
next
time.
B
E
It's
it's
technically
not
up
to
ms
freshman,
but
but
I'm
sure
we're
all
interested
in
her
views.
K
Well,
I
I,
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
make
any
difference,
because
I
I
don't
see
that
he's
going
to
end
up
being
asked
to
tear
it
down.
I
think
that's
just
the
way
it's
going
to
be
and
I'd
like
to
see
screening
on
ridge
road.
I
don't
care
what
what
freddie's
looking
at
across
the
street.
I
care
what
you
know,
what
I
drive
by
there
every
day
and
it's
hideous
and
as
this
picture
shows
and
there's
no
need
for
that,
so
I'm
fine
with
with
them
jumping
the
line
and
going
next.
K
But
who
knows
what
the
emergency
is
and
when
that's
going
to
happen
anyway,
maybe
to
maybe
to
august
19th
but-
and
I
agree
with
paul
that
we
told
them
last
time
that
it
was
for
neighbor
feedback
and
and
screening,
and
we
didn't
get
much
of
any
of
that
so
but
including
it
in
the
in
the
deferral.
That's
fine!
So
if
you'd
like
me
to
withdraw
and
or
just
change
the
date,
how
how?
How
do
you
do
that.
B
Just
point
of
information-
I
I
don't
believe
I
think
the
19th
at
this
point
is
the
earliest
that
it
could
be
added
to.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
rusi.
B
E
E
Yeah,
maybe
maybe
september,
is
the
best
time,
because
that
gives
them
plenty
of
time
to
react
to
what
we
want
them
to
react
to,
but
doesn't
unnecessarily
extend
the
period
of
ugliness.
B
To
be
determined,
we
have
a
september
date,
it
would
be
our
regular
meeting
date.
Okay,
I
think
that's
I'm
going
to
look
real
quick,
but
I
think
it's
september
16th.
K
A
B
P
I
K
B
B
All
in
favor
roll
call
vote,
mr
owen
hi,
mr
fred.
This
freshman
hi.
B
E
B
E
Technically,
you
don't
even
need
a
motion
if
you've
reached
the
end
of
the
agenda.
The
chair
can
just
declare
us
a
turn.
B
I
declare
us
adjourned
bye,
all
right.
Thank
you,
good
job,
all
right,
thank
you,
and
it
was
nice
having
you,
mrs
clark,.
E
It's
one
of
some
of
our
toughest
cases,
so
you'll
be
absolutely
ready.
Okay,.
D
E
Stephen
great
she
pressed
her
button.
I
steve
great
job
preparing
us
for
the
meeting
and
I
will
send
you.