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A
Buddy
on
behalf
of
the
Arlington
County
Civic
Federation.
Thank
you
all
for
coming,
thanks,
especially
to
the
county
board
for
generous
hospitality
and
technological
assistance
we
can
use
it.
I
expect
that
this
will
be
the
the
most
skilled
set
of
of
connections
that
we
have
all
year
long.
A
The
plan
is
to
hustle
through
a
whole
lot
of
questions.
Appreciate
your
cooperation.
In
keeping
your
questions
to
30
seconds.
You
will
see
behind
the
board
members
a
timer
to
remind
you
that
time
is
not
infinite.
Tonight
we
have
a
hard
stop
of
8
30,
so
we
have
less
than
an
hour
to
cover
a
great
deal
of
ground.
A
Appreciate
your
forbearance
I'm
going
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions.
Then
I
will
look
for
questions
from
the
audience
and
then
we'll
take
one
from
Zoom.
Then
another
quick
brace
of
questions,
then
a
couple
more
from
the
audience.
A
couple
more
from
Zoom
we'll
try
to
get
to
as
many
as
we
can.
A
And
congratulations:
Mr
chair,
congratulations,
Madam,
Vice,
chair!
Thank
you
with
a
20
plus
vacancy
rate
and
Commercial
office
space
in
the
county.
It
appears
that
the
board
is
placed
in
Greater
emphasis
on
residential
density.
What
economic
impacts
do
you
expect
from
this?
And
what
have
you
done?
An
economic
study
and
modeling
for
short
and
long-term
projections
and
consequences.
Mr.
C
You
this
is
a
very
important
question.
I
mean
as
you've
seen.
Most
of
us
have
referred
to
that
as
a
as
a
key
area
of
focus
and
I
have
to
tell
you.
I
have
always
in
my
office
these
two
graphs
one
shows
the
office
vacancy
rate
in
Arlington.
These
are
our
partner
jurisdictions.
Here
we
are
not
performing
the
best.
We
have
bigger
problems
and
the
other
one
is
this
here.
C
So
it
is
not
I
wouldn't
agree
with
the
premise
of
the
question
that
the
the
board
is
put
a
greater
emphasis
on
residential
density.
C
We
put
greater
the
appropriate
emphasis
in
in
everything,
and
you
can
rest
assured
that
we
put
a
very
much
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
the
the
vacancy
rates,
the
commercial
vacancy
rate
and
on
the
potential
consequences
of
that
which
begins
with
a
you
know:
tax
base,
a
commercial
tax
base
that
hasn't
been
so
vigorous,
like
it
has
been
in
the
past,
and
we
have
seen
over
over
years
that
this,
the
the
part
of
the
commercial
tax
base
that
comes
from
commercial
revenue,
is
reduced
compared
to
previous
years.
C
So
we
want
to
recover
that-
and
this
is
a
key
key
part
of
how
the
economic
machine
of
Arlington
Works
with
regards
to
to
projections
so
office
and
hotel
and
Retail
uses
and
are
on
the
one
side.
There
are
very
vital
components
but
they're
very
difficult
to
predict.
There
are
short-term
predictions,
there
are
medium-term
predictions.
This
is
not
a
impossible
to
have
an
opinion
on,
but
we
cannot
have
Precision
on
this.
We
can
only
see
a
trend
and
we
can
react
properly
and
I've.
C
I've
showed
you
here
that
we
did
several
times
that
we
felt
the
pressure
we
we
reacted
and
we
were
successful
to
a
certain
degree.
The
pandemic
has
thrown
us
a
different
type
of
a
wrench
in
the
cogworks
here,
and
this
is
the
issue
of
the
changing
nature
of
work
and
the
amount
of
telework
that
we
will
see
in
telecommuting
that
we
will
see
in
the
in
right
now
and
in
the
future.
This
is
still
a
an
area
in
flux.
It
is
not
very
helpful
to
speculate
too
much
about
that.
C
We
don't
know
for
how
long
we
don't
know
exactly
how
it
will
play
out,
but
we
can
hedge
against
that
and
the
number
one
action
that
will
that
we're
taking
is
to
support
and
improve
the
action,
radius
and
the
power
and
the
and
the
leverage
of
our
Economic
Development.
D
D
No
problem
at
all
we
like
curveballs,
what
I
am
going
to
answer
is
a
little
bit
about
some
of
what
we're
doing
around
trying
to
shore
up
that
commercial
tax
space.
We
talk
often
about
Arlington's
historic,
50,
50
split.
That's
basically
allows
us
to
leverage
every
one
of
our
dollar
paid
as
residential
property
taxpayers
into
another
dollar's
worth
of
service
paid
in
by
our
commercial
sector,
and
so
retaining
that
balance
is
important
to
us.
It
is
no
surprise,
as
Mr
Carrington
showed
you
a
graph
that
we
are
struggling
with
office
vacancy.
D
It
is
not
just
us.
There
was
a
excellent
article
in
the
New
York
Times
that
Mr
krantoni
shared
with
us
998
million
vacant
square
feet
of
office
in
the
United
States
13
of
the
market.
So
we
are
very
much
challenged
by
this
phenomenon
of
hybrid
work,
work
from
home
and
drinking
Footprints
of
traditional
office.
Tenants.
Our
staff
saw
this
coming
a
couple
years
ago
started
a
commercial
resiliency
agenda.
D
We
know
right
that
that
firm
occupying
five
six
stories
of
a
building
with
folks
in
and
cubicles
and
Corner
offices
I
mean
that
is
a
not
something
that
we
can
plan
on
coming
back.
That
is
unlikely
to
come
back
in
that
form.
The
other
thing
I
would
just
note
for
context
right.
Arlington
is
not
a
commercial
property
developer.
So
when
we
talk
about
what's
within
our
control,
it
has
to
be
hand
in
glove
with
the
office
Market
with
commercial
residential.
D
Excuse
me
with
commercial,
real
estate,
property
owners
and
managers,
and
so
we
have
been
in
close
coordination
with
them.
We're
looking
at,
for
example,
adaptive,
reuse
in
in
this
case,
as
I
mentioned.
I
will
also
say,
though,
one
of
the
strongest
pieces
of
feedback
we've
gotten
from
the
development
community
and
what
I
know
other
communities
are
getting
to.
Is
that
they're
very
interested
in
incentives
and
that's
a
game
and
that's
an
area
where,
at
least
speaking
for
myself,
I
think
we
need
to
tread
really
lightly
as
a
community.
D
Because
of
the
very
question
John
that
you
asked,
it
is
no
Victory
indeed
to
bring
down
our
office
vacancy
rate.
If
we
do
that
by
carving
into
the
very
or
carving
out
of
the
very
source
of
revenues
we
are
trying
to
restore.
So
as
we
pursue
these
strategies
right,
it's
trying
to
to
clear
out
any
obstacles
to
look
around
corners
to
work
in
close
partnership
with
with
the
commercial
Community,
but
also
be
cognizant
that
we
can't
give
away
the
store,
as
we
try
to
shore
up
that
commercial
side
of
our
Revenue
Ledger.
C
You
so
Prairie
assessments
have
been
rising,
that's
true,
and
for
several
returns,
this
is
a
real
problem
and-
and
we
could
recognize
that-
and
we
work
with
many
other
ways
to
to
provide
relief.
C
C
What
are
the
community
priorities
to
make
an
inventory
of
that
provide
sound,
fiscally
prudent
and
Frugal
guidance
to
the
county
manager
make
sure
that
we
make
the
most
efficient
use
of
the
public
funds
we
have
and
then
look
whether
we
can
what
what
can
be
discretionary.
What
can
be,
and
we
are
balancing
our
budget
every
single
time,
we're
not
filling
it
up.
C
We're
balancing
our
budget
not
only
because
Virginia
Compares
us
to
balance
our
budget,
but
because
this
is
the
way
we
we
manage
so
every
single
time
when
we
will
have
an
in
a
few.
In
a
couple
of
months,
we
announced
today
for
the
end
of
March,
our
hearing
on
on
the
budget
and
I
I
invite
this
the
Civic
Federation
to
actually
weigh
in
on
this.
It
is
important
to
say
no
well
would
they.
C
We
think
that
these
and
these
and
these
shouldn't
be
on
the
list,
and
that
would
you
know,
initiate
a
conversation
about
the
the
you
know,
the
total
of
the
tax
revenue.
But
without
that
you
know,
we
have
to
balance
the
budget
with
the
programs
that
we,
as
a
community
have
decided
that
they
are
critical
for
us
to
to
sustain
our
lead.
B
And
I'll,
just
that
is
another
point
you
know.
In
addition
to
is
Mr
claritonis
ended
advising
that
you
don't
think
about
this
question
in
isolation.
It
has
to
be
done
in
conjunction
with
what
the
community
annually
expresses
as
its
priorities
for
what
government
should
do.
You
then
determine
what
revenue
is
needed
accordingly,
if
you
want
to
take
it
as
a
an
understanding
of
how
difficult
this
is
look
no
further
than
our
annual
tax
and
budget
rate
hearings
that
we
just
you
know
scheduled
tonight
on
an
annual
basis
for
my
entire
time.
B
Seven
previous
years
on
the
board,
we
typically
get
hundreds
of
people
in
some
capacity
participating
in
the
budget
hearing
talking
about
things
that
they
would
want
government
to
prioritize,
and
then
it
is
a
rare
year
where
we
get
more
than
a
handful
who
come
to
complain
that
the
tax
rate
is
too
high,
not
that
that
necessarily
means
that
everybody's
absolutely
fine.
We
should
pay
no
attention
to
tax
rates.
B
Obviously
it's
a
part
of
what
we
have
done
to
ensure
that
the
increases
in
tax
in
in
taxes
and
fees
paid
would
be
sustainable
for
for
households.
That's
an
annual
part
of
our
conversation,
but
it's
it's
it's
clearly
something
that
you
have
to
look
at
with
balance
and
not
an
isolated
question
of.
If
residential
values
continue
to
rise,
will
you
lower
the
tax
rates,
at
least
I?
Don't
look
at
the
decision
making
through
that
that
lens.
E
I,
just
I'll
be
short
with
some
numbers.
80
of
both
budget
school
and
County
are
people.
E
B
No,
we
can't
come
down
yeah,
let's
not,
let's
not
put
that
into
the
into
the
atmosphere.
No.
E
A
A
F
Thank
you,
John
first
of
all,
Mary
glass
and
I
am
on
the
board
of
the
zip
fed
and
head
of
the
environmental
Affairs
committee
and
I
I.
Thank
you
for
the
time
to
come
and
talk.
F
You
will
appreciate
that
I
didn't
bother
you
with
the
bad
cold
that
I
have
by
coming
in
person.
Let
me
just
start
out
a
little
bit
of
background
before
my
question
Mary.
You
have.
A
F
Okay,
thank
you,
I
want
to
know
if
the
County
board
members
will
take
the
lead
in
giving
higher
priority
to
the
Natural
Resources,
including
directing
more
funds
and
making
those
funds
apply
to
action,
not
plans
and
words.
B
I
think
I'll
take
a
crack
at
this
and
then
I
know
that
we
have
people
who
have
spent
a
lot
of
time,
liaising
with
our
forestry
and
natural
resources
plan
and
process,
but
I
think
we
do
place
a
priority
on
this
and
have
looked
to
make
sure
we're
committing
adequate
resources
to
not
just
plans
and
studies
but
Personnel
to
actually
Implement
some
of
the
plans
and
ideas
that
we're
looking
to
increase
the
schedule
for
when
we
are
collecting
data
that
will
allow
us
to
make
good
decisions.
B
Certainly
there
is
more
that
we
could
do
I.
Think
that's
true
with
every
line
of
business
that
we
have
as
a
County
government.
There
is
a
baseline
level
of
what
we
know
that
we
have
to
do
and
more
that
we
would
like
to
do
of
resources
permitted.
But
back
to
the
previous
conversation,
we
do
have
to
make
choices,
and
we
recognize
that,
for
you
Mary
one
of
our
community's
key
leaders
in
this
area.
You
certainly
have
ideas
for
what
we
could
do
more.
We're
always
happy
to
to
see
if
we
can
meet
that
X
expectation.
B
G
Yeah
I
mean
I'll,
just
be
quick,
I
think,
as
you
know,
Mary
it's
nice
to
hear
I'm
glad
you're,
not
feeling
you
don't
sound
too
sick,
so
I'm
hoping
you're,
not
feeling
too
bad.
You
know
we
are
we
having
the
forestry
and
natural
resources,
Master
Plan
update,
coming
really
soon,
I
think
so,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
discussion
that
I'm
sure
you
will
be
part
of
and
look
at
to
have
how
we
can
take
actions.
G
D
You
so
much
Miss,
Garvey
I
was
trying
to
see
if
I
could
be
quick
enough
on
the
draw
to
quote
the
actual
figure
that
goes
to
the
tree
canopy
fund,
because
man
I
really
appreciate
your
point
and
just
wanted
to
note
that
that
is
really
one
of
the
best
ways
we
invest
not
in
words
but
in
trees,
because
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
promote
that.
We
are
right
now
working
with
our
partners
at
Eco
action
Arlington,
who
are
literally
knocking
on
doors
all
across
the
county.
D
You've
surely
seen
the
signs
in
the
medians
and
Lawns
to
give
away
free
trees,
which
is
really
important,
not
only
the
invest
the
money
in
the
trees
themselves,
but
in
the
money
to
educate
and
do
that
Outreach,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
once
those
trees
are
planted,
they
get
the
attention
that
they
need
from
Property
Owners
to
grow
up,
so
that
continues
to
be
an
area
of
investment,
even
perhaps
more
so
in
the
in
the
coming
years,
Ms
Garvey
mentioned
one
of
the
things
I've
been
really
excited
about.
D
In
conversation
with
some
of
our
citizen
leaders,
as
well
as
staff
working
on
the
forestry
natural
resources
management
plan,
is
some
creative
thinking
around
the
idea
of
setbacks
in
single-family
homes
and
low
density,
home
construction
and
tree
preservation.
We
know
this
has
really
been
an
Achilles
heel
for
Arlington
Mary
might
suggest.
This
is
an
area
where
reasonable
people
can
disagree.
Whether
the
county
is
willing
to
push
the
boundary
enough
of
our
legal
Authority,
but
we
have
been
really
struggled
to
protect
trees
during
Redevelopment
of
our
single
family
property.
D
So,
even
at
a
time
when
we
are
adding
to
our
tree
canopy
and
public
property,
or
even
in
our
denser
areas,
we
have
been
losing
it
in
single-family
areas,
and
so
one
of
the
recommendations
that
is
likely
to
forthcom
be
forthcoming
with
the
forestry
natural
resources
management
plan
is.
Can
we
look
to
just
shift
where
the
setback
requirements
are?
If
we
know
we're
likely
to
lose
trees
in
the
front
of
yards
during
construction?
Is
there
a
way
to
bring
houses
closer
to
the
street
and
protect
them
more
in
the
rear
of
the
yard?
D
So
that's
something
that
I
know
our
staff
is
looking
at
I.
Think
that's
an
area.
Hopefully
we
could
I
I
have
learned
to
never
say
this
with
his
own
studies,
because
there's
always
something
surprising,
but
hopefully
we
could
move
with
some
alacrity
and
I.
Think
that
is
indicative
of
the
type
of
thinking
that
we're
seeing
out
of
that
forestry,
natural
resources
plan,
so
dollars.
Action
and
Mary
I.
Take
your
exhortation
to
Heart,
investing
in
trees
and
and
changes.
Not
just
talk.
B
An
inquiry,
but
this
is
just
terrible
making
storefronts
with
signed
leases,
bye
all
right,
so
you
know
I'll
I'll,
start
off
and
then
Mr
karantonis.
You
know
I
appreciate
it.
I
live
close
to
Shirlington
and
I've,
been
awaiting
Jenny's
ice
cream
was
waiting
last
summer,
can't
believe
they're
not
open.
Yet
we've
been
having
a
what
is
it
a
captain
cookie
in
the
Milkman
that
has
similarly
been
waiting
for
months
down
here
at
Courthouse,
Plaza
I
get
it
I,
don't
know
the
root
causes
for
all
of
these
issues.
B
I
would
assume
that
they're,
not
all
government
related,
as
you
seem
to
be
assuming,
but
I,
will
take
your
question
as
an
invitation
to
find
out
specifically
if
there
are
any
thematic
root
causes
that
link
these.
That
are
areas
that
we
can
address.
As
you
well
know,
we
have
existing
within
the
county,
manager's
office
and
also
in
the
commissioner
of
the
revenues
office.
B
Persons
who
are
devoted
to
serving
in
an
ombuds
capacity
to
unstick
with
some
kind
sometimes
can
be
the
sticky
bureaucratic
widgets
of
government,
and
if
there
are
opportunities
to
deploy
these
very
talented
people,
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
make
that
happen.
But
I
need
to
do
some
investigation
to
figure
out
the
specific
areas
that
you've
outlined.
Mr.
C
Karen
Thomas
well,
I
was
going
to
say
exactly
the
same,
but
I
I've
heard
of
the
issues
and
actually
it
comes.
You
know
during
the
pandemic
years
there
was
a
lot
more
a
lot
more
complaints
because
of
the
lack
of
personnel
because
of
the
inability
to
inspect
properly,
etc,
etc.
And
some
you
know,
sclerosis
in
how
you
know
flexible.
C
You
know
we
we
could
respond
to
all
this
I
hear
it
more
than
and
enough
times
every
month
and
we
try
to
figure
out
a
way
always
to
help
so
that
we
can
expedite
that.
So
it's
literally
a
good
use
of
the
time
of
our
Ombudsman
and
a
good,
also
use
and
I.
Take
that
as
a
as
a
reminder
to
look
at
the
processes
and
see
if
we
can
unstick
as
Mr
Dorsey
said
and
stick
some
you
know.
Maybe
maybe
there
are
procedures
that
need
to
be.
You
know
reviewed
now.
E
I
think
this
it's
timely
and
I
just
associate
myself
because
the
permits
I've
gotten
a
couple
emails
over
the
last
three
months
with
respect
to
permitting
and
so
I
think
it
rises
to
the
level
of
our
inquiry
is
appropriate.
You
know,
but
I
don't
know
if
everyone
knows
in
the
pandemic,
significant
investment
away
from
any
of
the
incentives
that
Miss
Crystal
mentioned
and
into
small
businesses.
This
is
a
distinct
issue
in
the
past,
permitting
problems,
I
think
could
be
relevant.
We
went
online
I.
E
Think
you've
asked
a
time,
sensitive
question,
so
I'll
help
Mr
Dorsey
follow
up.
Thank.
A
D
Going
to
be
a
little
glib
and
say
absolutely
because
we
already
do
so.
This
work
of
reviewing
the
charge
of
each
of
our
commissions
is
ongoing.
It
is
something
that
each
of
us
take
really
seriously
as
the
Liaisons
to
about
one-fifth
of
the
commissions,
and
it
is
really
important
to
ensuring
that
they
continue
to
function
well
and
that
they
are
a
good
use
of
the
time
of
the
Civic
leaders
who
dedicate
their
time
to
it.
D
So
I'll
give
you
a
couple
of
examples:
we've
we
revised
Charters
I,
would
say
at
least
every
other
month
right.
We've
got
one
on
our
docket,
but
we
also
revise
the
work
plans,
for
example,
Ms
Garvey
meeting
recently
with
the
joint
facility
advisory
commission
founded
to
start
thinking
about
the
citing
process,
especially
of
schools.
Thankfully
we're
doing
a
little
less
of
that
these
days
as
schools
have
now
caught
up
on
the
the
student
population,
growth
and
so
thinking
about
their
future
working
through
with
the
chairs
of
jfac
about
their
envisioned
new
work
plan.
D
We
have
thought
we
work
on
the
evolution
of
the
bodies,
all
together,
Mr
Dorsey,
put
in
a
lot
of
work
to
think
about
the
future
of
the
emergency
preparedness
advisory
commission
to
make
it
a
more
Dynamic
and
boots
on
the
ground
structure,
directly
reporting
to
the
manager
in
every
case.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
the
form
follows
function
of
these
commissions,
so
there
is
not
a
a
broad
brush
with
which
we
can
paint
them
exactly.
As
you
noted
in
the
question,
they
are
unique.
D
Some
of
them
have
statutory
functions
under
the
code
of
Virginia.
Some
are
many
decades
old.
Some
are
brand
new
and
so
I
think
they
each
require
attention
to
detail
and
ensuring
that
they
are
set
up
in
their
Scopes
in
their
charge
in
their
memberships
to
do
what
they
are
envisioned
to
do
by
this
community
as
represented
by
the
County
Board,
and
also
what
the
aspirations
of
their
members
hope
for
as
well.
D
I
do
want
to
say
your
your
question
about
the
application
process
is
such
a
good
one
and
yes,
and
so
this
is
a
chance
to
maybe
share
a
little
bit
of
the
back
end.
What
goes
on
behind
the
scenes?
I
know,
you
all
know:
Kendra
our
clerk
Mason,
our
Deputy
clerk
from
showing
up
to
speak
at
board
meetings
or
helping
with
this
joint
meeting,
but
they
also
do
a
whole
host
of
other
activities,
and
one
of
them
is
managing
and
liaising
with
our
commissions.
D
So
they
have
been
working
on
a
sort
of
back-end
system
about
how
we
collect
and
track
the
applications.
How
we
share
information
across
the
County
Board
office
and
with
the
staff
Liaisons
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
roll
that
out
in
the
coming
months,
so
that
it
is
a
smoother
process
for
those
who
apply
for
commissions.
That
variety
can
sometimes
make
things
challenging.
D
If
you
apply
for
three
commissions
who
which
join,
which
one
do
we
start
you
with,
for
example,
and
what
can
you
expect
so
they
have
been
working
really
hard
on
the
systems,
the
back
end
systems
that
will
allow
us
to
make
it
a
smoother
process
for
application,
because
we
do
share
that
as
a
goal
too,
and
they
they
also
have
been
working
really
hard
in
recent
years
to
have
more
standardized
training
and
annual
meetings
across
the
commissions
and
I
think
that's
really
born
fruit,
we're
seeing
our
commissions.
D
In
my
experience
of
the
past
seven
years,
our
commissions
collaborate
with
one
another
to
an
extent
that
I
think
I
have
not
seen
before.
A
great
example
is
the
advocacy
they've
worked
on
together
to
join
us
in
in
petitioning
the
general
assembly
for
more
flexibility
for
virtual
meetings.
The
way
our
commissions
have
really
had
those
relationships
with
one
another
and
been
able
to
work
on
the
same
goal.
G
And
I
find
my
Miss
Crystal
I.
Think
that
also
is
included.
I
I
believe
because
I
haven't,
you
know,
been
briefed
on
this
recently,
but
I
believe
we're
looking
at
you
could
you'll
be
able
to
go
online
and
see
really
clearly
what
membership,
what
what,
where
their
openings
and
whether
they're
there
and
that's
a
lot
more
transparent
before
it
was
you
kind
of
had
to
guess.
You
had
to
call
and
I
think
that
if
it's
not
up
there
now
it
will
be
soon.
I
believe
and
that'll
make
a
big
difference
too.
I
think.
C
And
Landon
page
I,
yes
and
and
communicating
vacancies
and
communicating
opportunities,
has
been
improved
and
and
will
improve
further
I
wanted
to
just
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
all
the
chairs,
the
commission,
because
they
are
really
part
of
this.
They
are
the
first
ones
who
identify
the
issues
who
will
know
how
to
you
know
how
how
difficult,
sometimes
it's
to
manage
the
commit
commission
how
to
manage
their
appointments.
The
reappointments,
the
the
vacancies
itself,
the
issues
with
the
charter
of
the
commission
Etc.
C
They
have
done
a
year
months,
work
over
this
last
two
years
and
I
cannot
we're
going
to
express
my
gratitude
enough
to
them.
They
have
been
amazing
plus
they
have
also
elevated
other
significant
qualitative
issues
like,
for
example,
are
our
commissions
diverse
enough?
Do
they
invite
you
know
the
the
different
voices
at
the
right
time
on
the
right
topics?
Etc
I
think
there
is.
There
is
movement
forward
on
this
and
to
know
small
extent.
We
have
to
thank
our
volunteer
leaders
of
these
commissions.
B
I'll
just
add
one
more
thing:
you
know
one
great
recent
Innovation
is
that
we
are
advertising
vacancies
on
the
inside
Arlington
e-newsletter,
which
goes
to
over
160
000
subscribers.
So
you
know
it's
pretty
much
the
most
broad-based
advertisement
of
what
commissions
do
and
and
vacancies
that
are
available
to
invite
people
who
may
not
necessarily
be
in
this
Insider
Club
of
Arlington
Civic
engagement
to
participate.
A
B
I
think
there's
considerable
work
that
we
can
do
to
make
sure
people
well
understand
what
each
point
in
our
engagement
Spectrum
what
it
means
and
give
them
appropriate.
You
know,
guidelines
and
tools
for
how
to
effectively
engage
and
how
it
factors
into
ultimate
decision
making
I
think
we
can
do
continue
to
do
a
better
job
of
making
that
clearer
and
that's
something
that
is
a
priority
for
us
to
think
about
in
the
year
ahead.
B
But,
inheriting
your
question,
this
notion
of
two-way
engagement,
I
wanna
I,
want
to
probe
at
that
a
little
bit
because,
for
me,
two-way
engagement
means
creating
conditions
where
people
are
given
the
tools
to
come
to
an
understanding
of
what
they
themselves
believe
and
what
they
would
like
to
say
back
to
people
who
are
decision
makers
and
for
people
who
are
in
the
position
of
either.
You
know
developing
policy
or
making
decisions
to
to
be
open
to
hearing
that
feedback
and
considering
it
as
part
of
what
ultimately
may
happen.
B
I
would
Hazard
to
say
that
by
and
large
that
happens
in
Arlington
period
when
I
hear
a
lot
about
people
concerned
about
two-way
engagement,
it's
because
they
don't
like
the
decision
and
that's
okay.
That's
you
don't
have
to
like
the
decision,
and
you
should
be
upset
about
that,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
the
process
was
flawed,
just
because
people
didn't
adopt
your
perspective
and
point
of
view
and
and
take
it
entirely
and
make
it
theirs
and
make
it.
B
The
actual
decision
of
the
day
doesn't
mean
that
the
process
was
flawed,
so
what
I
would
love
some
help
with
is,
is,
and
especially
from
the
Civic
Federation,
is
to
really
drill
down
at
to
what
are
the
process
issues
that
we
actually
absolutely
should
work
on
versus
the
disenchantment
with
decisions
which
we
ultimately
have
to
be
able
to
come
together
as
a
community
and
accept
that
whenever
there's
positional
variation,
they're
going
to
be
people
who
are
disappointed
in
the
outcome?
How
do
we
not
perseverate
about
process
when
it's
in
fact
outcome?
B
That
is
what
is
causing
people
concern,
because
I
think
that's
making
it
a
little
bit
difficult
to
actually
pursue
real
process
reforms,
which
we
are
more
than
interested
in
hearing,
because
you
know
trust
me.
The
five
of
us
want
to
make
the
best
decisions
for
this
community
possible,
and
that
only
happens
when
we
get
all
thoughtful
perspectives
out
there.
We
can't
do
the
job
that
we
want
to
do.
A
All
right,
my
next
petition
is
the
burdens
of
public
policy
makers.
The
Sue
fed
will
take
you
up
on
that
I
think
we
can.
We
can
be
helpful.
A
The
the
I
would
say
that
there's
there's
still
some
concern
in
the
community
and
but
there's
also
concern
in
the
community
that
I'm
not
taking
enough
Zoom
calls.
So,
let's
turn
to
Sharon
Valencia
crisis.
H
Additional
lights
were
installed
along
a
new
North
Kansas
Street
that
were
not
included
in
the
4.1
site
plan.
The
lights
are
significantly
above
the
dark
sky
requirement
or
standards.
Regarding
light,
trespass,
the
nearest
neighbors
and
civic
association
have
been
unsuccessful,
trying
to
get
the
lights
dim
for
approximately
seven
months.
H
B
Thank
you
Sharon.
You
know,
I
think
this
is
an
area
of
weakness
for
us
as
a
community
and
how
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
iterations
and
attestations
of
what
will
happen
that
go
through
what
is,
admittedly,
a
long
development
process
which
includes
lots
of
plans
and
drawings
and
ultimately,
documents.
B
That,
then,
are
not
necessarily
the
people
who
who
submit
the
proposals
are
not
necessarily
held
to
them
because
they
could
be
changed.
Administratively,
it's
it's
Byzantine
and
it
leaves
someone
who
comes
into
the
conversation
at
various
points
with
a
disconnect
between
where
they
engaged
and
what
they
might
ultimately
see
on
the
ground.
B
Those
are
things
that
may
have
in
fact
caused
people
to
become
engaged
or
or
have
a
degree
of
support
or
interest
in
a
project,
and
we
can't
allow
that
to
be
changed
without
it
being
available
for
for
at
least
the
public
to
review
at
some
point.
So
it
is
a
weakness.
It's
it's
one
that
I've
I've
felt
strongly
about
for
years.
I
think
we
get
a
little
bit
better,
but
it's
it's
still
an
area
where
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
C
I
I
subscribe
to
everything
you
said
Mr
chair,
it's
not
the
only
case.
There
are
several
ones
and
and
I
have
to
say
two
things.
First
of
all,
I
don't
think
that
staff
is
eager
to
you
know
to
dispatch
the
administrative
allowances
they
they
actually
go
through
a
process
Etc.
The
question
is
that
this
is
not
always
sufficiently
consensuated
with
those
who
are
most
impacted,
and
it's
important
to
you
know
to
to
increase
the
the
sensitivity
of
the
radar
there
so
that
we
can
see.
Then
there
is
a.
C
There
is
a
logical
environment
of
flexibility.
You
know
the
final
landscape
plan
Etc
all
these.
This
is
not
this.
Is
this
helps
project
to
be
done
relatively
swiftly?
You
know
efficiently
Etc.
What
I
want
to
say
here
is.
It
is
extremely
important
to
transmit
the
importance
of
these
small
changes,
also
to
those
who,
on
the
ground
like
Miss
Chris
mentioned
before
we
are
not
the
developers
they
are
and
and
have
their
you
know.
C
Community
engagement,
people
actually
pick
them
up
and
proactively
try
to
to
resolve
them
before
it
gets
to
a
point
where
something
has
to
be
turned
out,
and
you
know
where
we
are
facing
very
costly,
Corrections
Etc,
so
I
definitely
agree
that
we
need
to
to
look
into
that
and
ask
her
the
county
staff
to
to
make
proposals
on
how
to
make
without
sacrificing
too
much
of
you
know
logical
flexibility,
how
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
accountable
on
delivery.
D
And
I
just
wanted
to
observe
too
I
mean
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
we've
sought
to
change
with
regard
to
site
plans,
in
particular
in
recent
years.
D
I
think
the
board
and
I'm
sure
I
was
guilty
of
this
in
my
early
years
had
been
in
the
habit
of
trying
to
resolve
through
site
plan
conditions,
lingering
concerns
that
people
had
with
the
project
and
creating
an
expectation
that
County
government
could
enforce
things
that
were
in
fact,
for
the
developer
to
be
done
or
had
not
been
done
as
a
matter
of
design
and
really
needed
to
be
as
a
matter
of
design
and
so
I
I
bring
that
up
to
say,
I.
D
Think
if
you've
had,
the
experience
of
you
know,
perhaps
testifying
on
behalf
of
your
civic
association
of
the
board
about
a
site
plan
or
a
use
permit,
for
you
know,
live
entertainment
permit,
for
example,
and
felt
like
the
board
didn't
take
enough
accountability
and
ownership
on
the
part
of
government
for
resolving
whatever.
That
issue
was,
and
rather
instead
you
know,
emphasize
the
condition
of
a
property
manager
on
site
who
would
be
responsive
or
a
construction
manager
who
would
regularly
meet
with
the
neighborhood.
D
That
is
why
I
think
we're
trying
to
create
more
direct
points
of
connection
between
those
who
can
do
something
about
the
problem.
I,
don't
know
about
the
lights
that
were
installed
that
Ms
Valencia
talked
about,
but
I
do
know
this
Wednesday
from
previous
Open
Door
Monday
is
that
you
know
there
have
certainly
been
concerns
or
questions
you've
had
or
your
neighbors
have
had
about
that
development.
D
Right
and,
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
really
do
try
to
keep
that
direct
line
of
communication
open
is
because
I
think
it's
less
frustrating
for
residents
than
it
is
when
they
have
to
go
report
to
the
County
Board.
We
then
put
them
in
touch
with
somebody
in
planning
who's,
trying
to
enforce
a
condition,
and
it
is
less
direct
that
way.
D
I
mentioned
that
all
of
which
to
say
not
that
it's
all
of
which
to
say
not
that
it
is
by
any
stretch,
imagination,
resolved
I,
think
Mr
Dorsey
talked
about
that's
an
area
for
for
further
iteration,
but
but
to
just
say,
if
you've
had
that
experience,
where
the
board
didn't
take
ownership
of
government
solving
the
problem.
That
is
why
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
it's
less
frustrating
on
the
the
back
end
of
enforcement.
E
E
I
can
check
in
and
try
to
understand,
and
we
can
get
back
to
you
on
where
the
specific
answer
is.
It
may
not
be
the
answer
that
you
wish,
but
it's
worth
at
least
being
that
accountable
to
you
that
we
would
follow
up
in
answer
to
this
specific
question,
so
we
have
explored.
B
I
Hi
there
Adam
Theo
Boston
Virginia
Square.
This
is
a
question
from
our
members
regarding
the
old
Quincy
Street
that
was
decided
in
the
most
recent
recess
session.
What
what's
the
intended
use
of
the
right-of-way
area
now
that
in
the
future,
as
well
as
why
the
action
was
taken
so
suddenly
and
without
honoring,
the
Civic
associations
one
month,
delay
request.
So
what's
the
intended
use
of
the
right-of-way
now
so.
B
As
I
recall,
the
purpose
of
the
right-of-way
is
to
erect
a
seven
foot.
Security
Fence
Which
is
higher
than
the
currently
allowable
forefoot
fence,
which
is
a
necessary
requirement
to
secure
the
bus
fleet,
not
because
we
think
seven
feet
is
a
magic
number,
but
because
you
know,
Federal,
Transit
Administration
I
believe
requires
that
level
of
security
fencing
around
the
property.
So
that's
the
sole
reason
for
the
vacation
is,
is
to
permit
the
right-of-way
and
offense
construction
of
that
height,
but
Miss
Crystal
was
chair.
So.
D
You
remember
with
regard
to
the
urgency.
As
you
know,
the
idea
is
that
the
buses
will
be
parked
there
temporarily,
so
that
we
can
move
forward
quickly
to
construct
a
permanent
home
of
the
operations
and
maintenance
facility.
So
I,
we
understand
that
the
depth
which,
with
which
the
community
does
not
want
that
use
there,
the
faster
we
can
move
to
get
the
permanent
our
operations
and
maintenance
facility
constructed
the
faster
we
can
get
them
off
of
that
bug
site.
Thank.
J
Hey
good
good
evening,
everyone,
so
hopefully
everybody
can
see
me.
Okay,
so
in
in
the
winter
of
2019
dozen
of
Arlington
residents
participated
in
the
26
and
OD
task
force.
J
B
E
From
the
board
I'll
take
an
initial
I
I,
don't
think
it
was
so
I
keenly
remember
this
question
and
came
up
a
little
bit
in
the
course
of
past
year
in
the
CIP
we
have
steadily
I
at
least
I.
For
my
part,
I
made
the
conscious
decision
that
in
the
CIP,
when
we
had
a
skinny
CIP
in
the
heart
of
covid
that
it
was
not
wise
to
dig
deep
into
this
question
after
we
had
the
task
force,
and
so
we
have
emerged
last
year's
CIP.
E
You
could
say
that
be
a
fair
concern
that
the
should
or
could
have
been,
some
planning
there.
I
still
felt
that
we
were
emerging
from
the
Urgent
needs
at
the
time.
It
is
fair
to
say
that
we
had
the
full
task
force
and
we
have
to
reconsider
that.
As
you
know,
I
want
to
follow
up
on
this
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting
in
a
couple
weeks
on
that,
but
I
think
the
shorter
answer
to
your
question
is,
to
my
knowledge
not
yet
have
we
dug
back
deeply
into
this
issue?
E
A
G
So
dad
has
got
a
broad
public
interest,
basically
is,
for
the
most
part,
largely
shared
through
the
open
data
portal
and
on
the
web.
I.
Think
if
you,
if
there's
some
particular
item
that
isn't
there,
that
you
that
someone
thinks
should
be
there,
let
us
know,
but
a
lot
of
times
records
requests
are
kind
of
they
can.
They
can
be
extremely
difficult
and
expensive
for
us
to
take
care
of,
and
so
that's
a
you
know
and
they're
also
privacy
issues.
So
we
don't
just
put
everything
out
there.
G
You
have
to
be
careful
so
I
again.
If
there's
something
specific
that
things
ought
to
be
open,
then
let
us
know
because
we
actually
are
committed
to
putting
out
in
the
public
realm
all
of
the
data.
That
is
a
public
interest
and
can
be
out
there
and
if
we're
falling
down
on
that,
let
us
know
where
and
we'll
look
at
it.
G
We
try
to
be
make
effective
use
of
taxpayer
dollars
and
there
are
sometimes
a
lot
of
foia
requests.
Sometimes
I
think
foia
is
abused
by
people.
It
depends.
The
situations
vary
quite
a
bit
and
we
we
really
can't
just
search
and
request
and
absorb
all
of
those
costs.
No
matter
what,
and
in
fact,
if
there
is
some
cost
that
might
that
helps,
people
think
a
little
bit
about
whether
they
really
need
that
and
again
if
the
data
should
be
open
data
and
should
be
out
there.
G
Let
us
know
and
we'll
put
it
out
there,
but
we
get
a
lot
of
requests
that
are
kind
of
that
are
that
are
idiosyncratic,
take
a
whole
lot
of
time,
and
maybe
it
is
not
in
the
public
interest
necessarily
for
it
to
be
out
there
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
certainly
in
the
public
interest
for
us
just
to
allow
anyone
anytime
to
ask
for
anything
and
us
to
have
to
supply
it,
because
it's
quite
expensive
for
us
to
do.
C
Thomas
wants
to
add
a
perspective
here.
Yes,
just
just
hiding
a
perspective,
indeed
Mr
chair,
so
there
are
two
types
of
foia
requests
and
we
one
is
to
figure
out
what
is
the
political
thinking
or
the
discussion
between
the
board
or
or
staff
Etc,
which
is
you
know,
part
of
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act.
C
This
is
the
intentionality
of
that
and
I
don't
see
any
remedy,
then
to
actually
have
to
foil
that
if
somebody
thinks
that
this
needs
to
be
for
you
on,
there
is
all
the
other
thing
this
is,
which
is
raw
data
analytics
and
I.
Think
and
I
hear
you
very
well
that
there
is.
There
is
a
commitment
in
the
content.
C
Manager
has
repeated
it
many
times
and
if
I
had
to
give
a
from
a
point
of
view
of
government,
open
government
from
an
open
government
perspective
give
a
characterization
to
to
last
year's
the
year
of
the
you
know:
dashboards
we
now
have
dashboards
for
absolutely
everything
and
I
would
not
nearly
enough,
but
we
have
a
lot
more
than
we
ever
had
and
I
think
that
they
are
very,
very
helpful.
It
helps
us,
it
helps
you.
C
It
helps
also
those
who
are
interested
in
you
know
a
different
view
on
things:
I
miss
glass
was
here
and
I
had
long
conversations
with
her
about
what
the
depth
and
the
detail
and
the
granularity
of
the
data
on
tree
canopy
should
be,
and
you
know
what
is
not
available,
what
should
be
available.
Etc
I
think
we
can
find
a
common
ground
there
and
and
have
a
good
conversation
about
this.
Well,
these
are
two
different
things
in.
A
That
connection
Mr
terraconis
I,
wonder
if
we
could
work
with
you
with
the
board
with
the
manager,
because
we
asked
the
manager
this
in
December
when
they
came
to
us
and
the
gist
of
his
answer
essentially
was
stick
with
it.
You
know,
if
there's
information
that
you
need
from
the
staff
push
them
I
understand
that
there
are
fishing
Expeditions
that
that
are
promoted
by
the
foia
requests.
B
Think
that's
a
fine
idea,
because
I
think
one
of
the
the
key
reasons
why
foia
ends
up
being
time
consuming
in
frustration,
because
people
don't
know
exactly
what
they're
looking
for
so
requests
may
be
submitted,
that
is
interpreted
by
a
foia
officer
as
being
X
and
it
could
produce
an
answer
of
yeah.
This
is
going
to
cost
you
400
and
blah
blah
blah.
B
You
should
maybe
look
at
maybe
asking
for
what
you
need
or
engaging
in
some
other
way,
but
if
foia
is
ultimately
the
root,
I
encourage
people
to
actually
have
a
conversation
with
our
foia
officers,
who
are
trained
to
help
narrow
what
it
is
you're
interested
in,
so
that
they
can
only
focus
on
providing
responsive
records
for
what
you
you
actually
need.
So
I
think
it's
a
multi-pronged
policy,
but
I
think
the
first
area
that
you
are
is
absolutely
right
on
board
anything
that
we
have
that's
useful
to
help.
B
People
understand
and
issue
figure
out
how
to
give
their
informed
perspective
on
an
issue.
We
want
to
make
sure
you
have
that
information.
Sometimes
there's
this.
This
thought
that
it
exists
in
a
form
that
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense
for
you
to
use,
and-
and
it
may
not
so
you
know,
foia
does
not
create
a
responsibility
for
us
to
produce
records
on
your
behalf,
and
so
anyway
long
story
short.
Yes,
let's
do
exactly
what
you
said.
B
D
I
could
just
I
think
to
to
I,
couldn't
I'm
like
nodding
vigorously
with
Mr
Karen
Thomas's
point
about
the
difference
between
data
right
and
qualitative
and
interest
in
taking
a
look
into
how
government
is
discussed
things
fine,
completely
people's
rights
as
Citizens.
Perhaps
there
isn't
enough
protocol,
we
can
develop
to
figure
out
what
is
the
actual
data
request
right,
not
the
assumption
surrounding
it
or
not
wanting
the
qualitative
color
surrounding
it.
But
what
is
the
data
request
and
I
I
really
think.
D
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
our
open
data
portal
I'm
looking
at
it
right
now,
I
think.
If
we
can,
we
can
help
you
all
drill
down
to
what
is
the
data
request
nine
times
out
of
ten
I
think
we
can
really
help
you
right.
What
is
the
permit
application
history
for
that
small
business?
Not
was
it
handled
quickly
enough
like
what
are
our
standards
right?
We
can
work
on
that.
D
We
can
have
that
debate,
but
if
the
data
is
when
was
the
permit
submitted,
I'm
sure
that
is
molecular
than
not
available
on
our
open
data
system,
so
I
think
there's,
maybe
it's
a
protocol.
Maybe
there's
some
way
of
us
saying
like
let's
really
drill
down
and
like
what
is
the
objective
data
question
here.
Let's
start
with
that,
and
then
we
can
have
some
debate
right
and
not
use
foia
for
that
debate
about
whether
it's
being
done
and
how
yeah.
G
If
I
I
really
appreciate
the
suggestion,
because
if
you're
here,
if
anybody's
sort
of
listening
from
the
outside
there's
frustration
on
both
sides,
because
we
sometimes
we
just
get
flooded
because
it's
like
oh
my
God
and
often
it
is
something
it
really
is
clearly
abusive
other
times
it's,
it's,
maybe
quite
reasonable,
and
so
we
get
frustrated
on
our
side
and
then
on
the
other
side,
people
asking
it.
It
is
yeah
I
just
asked
for
this.
Why
can't
they
just
give
it
to
me.
G
You
know
there
might
be
some
very
good
reasons
and
so
I
think
some
discussions,
so
we
each
understand
each
other.
A
lot
better
would
be
good
and
Mr
Darcy,
which
I
believe
already
it.
When,
when
a
request
comes
in
and
it's
going
to
be
quite
expensive,
we
do
go
back
to
the
requester
and
say:
do
you
really
want
this?
Is
this
what
you
want,
because
this
is
going
to
be
very
expensive?
G
If
you
want
something
you
narrow
it
down,
we
can
get
the
cost
down
for
you,
I
think,
there's
Goodwill
for,
for
the
most
part
on
both
sides.
Every
now
and
then
I
think
there
are
a
few
kind
of
Bad
actors
and
we
I
think.
If
we
actually
talk
about
it,
we
could
really
get
somewhere
I
like
the
idea
quite
a
bit,
so
increase
understanding.
A
Well,
Staffing:
this
little
group
will
be
the
challenge
and
it'll
be
a
challenge
for
us
also,
but
if,
if
I'll
follow
up
with
with
the
chairman
and
and
we
can
I
think
it's
great,
we
can
proceed
with
that.
If,
if
we
may,
we've
got
a
couple
of
questions
in
zoom
and
you
know,
I
was
going
to
ask
a
question
about
storm
water
before
we're
done
so
we'll
take
Tony
Weaver.
L
Hey
thanks,
Tony
Weaver,
Arlington,
Rotary,
Club,
DC
and
Alexandria
has
have
had
success
with
converting
commercial
office
space
to
residential.
Is
that
something
that
is
on
the
table
for
Arlington.
B
Yeah
Tony,
you
may
have
not
been
on
when
we
talked
about
this.
You
know.
Certainly
it's
something
that
we
we
look
at,
where
it's
practical,
it's
not
as
easy
to
execute
and
Implement
in,
in
all
form
factors
based
on
the
age
of
a
building
and
the
manner
in
which
it's
constructed,
but
we're
also
very
careful
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
those
particular
opportunities
with
a
a
fine-tooth
comb,
because
there
is
a
different
impact
on
infrastructure
and
existing
plans
that
residential
provides
than
commercials.
B
So
the
answer
is,
you
know
we
do
it
when
it
makes
sense
for
all
parties.
We
look
at
it
very
closely
in
all
circumstances,
but
you're
not
going
to
see
it
perhaps
to
the
degree
that
you
you
would
like
for
for
lots
of
reasons,
including
that
it's
just
not
feasible,
for
many
developers
to
undertake.
D
It
and
just
one
point
that
I
didn't
make
when
I
was
answering
that
question
earlier.
It's
a
great
one,
Tony
was
I,
do
think
you
are
going
to
see
conversion,
but
it's
likelier
in
Arlington
for
a
variety
of
reasons
that
are
well
enumerated
in
a
white
paper
that
our
staff
put
out
towards
the
end
of
last
year.
You
are
likely
to
see
that
in
the
form
of
Redevelopment
rather
than
adaptive,
reuse,
there
are
some
estimates
in
our
region.
D
The
the
cost
of
adapting
a
building
from
office
to
housing
is
on
the
order
of
400
to
500
per
square
foot.
It
is,
in
most
cases,
going
to
be
cheaper
to
redevelop
that
building,
so
the
Macy's
site,
for
example,
that
we
just
approved
a
few
weeks
ago
at
our
December
meeting,
is
a
great
example
of
an
office
building
that
has
now
been
entitled
to
be
redeveloped
as
housing.
So
I
think
it's
on
the
agenda.
It's
just
going
to
look
a
little
different
in
Arlington
than
it
might
in
other
communities.
G
And
I'll
just
add
it.
It
is
a
good
question.
It's
one
that
people
are
asking
all
around
the
country
and
actually
the
region
is
looking
at
it.
Lots
of
study
is
going
on
and
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
difficulties
in
converting
some
buildings,
but
I'm
sure
there
are
engineers
at
work,
probably
as
we
speak
now,
trying
to
figure
out
if
they
can
figure
out
a
better
way
to
do
it.
G
M
Is
I've
lived
directly
across
from
the
Walter
Reed
pickle
ball
center
of
the
universe
and
I'm
letting
you
know
that
seven
days
a
week,
15
hours
a
day?
This
is
what
I
see
and
hear,
along
with
my
neighbors,
who
are
also
on
this
phone
call.
What
is
the
county
doing
to
address
the
the
needs
of
residents,
not
just
the
privilege
of
sport
players
to
address
our
mental
health,
that's
being
negatively
impacted
to
address
the
financial
impact
of
living
across
from
the
courts
and
also
the
quiet
enjoyment
of
our
houses.
It's
a
beautiful
evening.
M
E
I
learned
about
three
or
four
doors
down
from
you:
I
spent
about
45
minutes,
knocking
on
the
door
of
one
of
your
neighbors
I
I,
hear
the
concern.
I
think
we've
engaged
I'll
have
to
follow
up
to
be
sure.
We've
engaged
I
have
had
a
conversation
or
seen
an
email
from
a
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation
Jane
Rudolph
about
this
issue.
There's
a
couple
of
different
complaints
as
I
understand
it.
There's
concerns
about
the
timing
of
lights
at
night
and
moving
it
from
11
to
10
p.m.
E
There's
concern
about
the
noise
of
course,
and
there
has
been
studies
that
have
shown
that
you
know,
and
certainly
my
lived
experience
trying
to
play
Pickleball-
is
that
it's
way
louder
than
tennis
and
so
understand
that
I
also
read
all
now.
I
know,
there's
very
strong
concerns
about
even
in
the
morning
the
time
at
which
people
try
to
play
Pickleball
being
before
the
courts
are
open,
I
think,
there's
it's
fair
to
say
there
are
a
host
of
issues,
I
think
it's
probably
the
best
response.
E
I
assume
it's
not
the
case
that
the
lights
are
on
during
the
day.
It's
the
noise
during
the
day.
That's
the
bigger
concern,
but
I
also
think
Courtney
would
probably
be
a
good
idea
for
me
to
re-pull
that
email
and
follow
up
I.
Think
Mr.
Karen
Thomas
has
also
taken
some
leadership
on
this
I.
Don't
know
that
I've
answered
every
one
of
your
quest
questions.
The
concern
about
pickleball
courts
in
other
parts
of
the
county
is
I
know
that
I
know
from
personal
experience.
E
150
people
can
be
there
on
an
average
weekday
morning
at
10
o'clock
in
the
morning.
It
is
a
sport
that
is
a
phenomenon
as
the
Post
article
mentioned
a
month
ago.
So
those
are
a
few
thoughts
to
follow
up.
I,
know,
Mr
karantona,
says
pieces
to
add
you've
raised
reasonable
concerns.
We're
working
on
it.
That's
not
to
say
say
that
we
have
answers
for
every
single
question
yet
and
we're
trying
to
balance
the
needs
and
respect.
Of
course,
also
your
home
and
your
your
ability
to
enjoy
your
home.
C
C
C
So
we
expect,
from
DPR
and
from
the
county
manager,
to
provide
some
options
here
to
to
to
focus
on
that
and
I
do
believe
that
we
take
the
the
impact
on
on
residents
very
very
seriously,
and
we
want
to
do
the
best
we
can
to
mitigate
that.
On
the
other
side.
We
also
don't
want
to
completely
make
it
impossible
to
play
a
very
popular
sport
across
Arlington.
We
need
just
to
find
a
good
embalanced
solution
for
that,
and
that
can
happen
in
collaboration
with
the
sick,
Association
and
with
everybody
who's
involved.
Here.
N
I
am
I
think
so.
No!
No!
It's
on
hi
Todd
Truitt
from
Waverly
Hills,
Civics,
Association
I'm!
Also
the
head
of
Civ
fed
schools
committee,
a
quick
question
as
to
can
you
describe
the
efforts
the
County
Board
has
made,
and
it's
making
two
better
so
that
the
county
better
coordinates
with
APS
regarding
day
off
Camps
summer
camps,
Camp
slots
in
general
and
as
well
as
summer
school
funding
for
APS.
Thank
you
so.
B
Is
Miss
Crystal
alluded?
We
do
have
a
regular
ability
to
surface
board
to
board
level
issues
through
a
monthly
conversation
with
school
board
leadership,
but
that
is
just
one
level
of
what
is
I.
You
know
can't
put
a
percentage
increase
on
it,
but
by
orders
of
magnitude
many
fold
increase
in
level
of
cooperation
that
we
have
at
all
levels
with
APS,
whether
it
be
on
Transportation
provision
of
mental
health,
in
addition
to
direct
relationships
between
the
superintendent
and
the
county
manager
to
service
issues
that
they
can
resolve
together.
B
So
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
a
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
process
issue
with
being
able
to
to
figure
out
some
of
those
issues
and
concerns
and
as
it
relates
to
DPR,
incredibly
robust,
mature,
systematic
engagement
with
APS
on
executing
programs.
I
can
speak
to
this
firsthand
as
a
volunteer
youth,
basketball,
coach
for
Arlington
County.
We
use
APS
facilities.
It
works
like
clockwork.
It's
beautiful,
beautiful
coordination.
If
they're
gaps
that
you
see
in
terms
of
execution,
you
know
let
APS
know
so
that
they
can.
B
They
will
easily
find
their
counterpart
on
the
county
side.
Who
can
help
facilitate
a
good
solution?
I
would
not
have
said
that
five
years
ago,
Todd,
you
know
it
would
have
been.
It
would
have
been
a
little
bit
hairy,
but
I
have
utmost
confidence
that
if
there
are
any
issues
that
we
can
facilitate,
you
know
enabling
schools
to
to
perform
their
mission
better,
there's
counterpart
on
the
county
side,
who
will
be
more
than
happy
to
help
them?
Do
it.
D
Just
want
to
do
a
loose
some
of
the
work
that
we've
got
underway
to
reform
Camp
scheduling.
We
are
I'm
sure,
as
you
know,
as
a
parent
right
I
think
any
of
us
who've
tried
to
assign
our
kid
up
for
school
or
for
DPR
classes
has
experienced
it.
We
of
course,
have
had
huge
issues
with
scheduling
with
that
problem.
Our
staff
really
took
to
heart
a
total
review
of
the
program.
You
can
actually
find
online
the
work
that
they
did.
They
did
a
lot
of
focus
groups
with
parents.
They
did
focus
groups
with
staff.
D
They
made
put
out
a
call
for
proposals
for
contractors
who
could
run
the
website
differently.
There
is
a
a
new
registration
process
that
they
used
for
the
first
time.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
the
experience
of
trying
to
sign
up
for
winter
classes,
where
I
think
sixth,
on
the
wait
list
for
one
of
the
swim
classes
in
my
family,
so
we
had
the
user
as
well
as
the
the
the
policy
experience
it
I
think
it
has
improved
I'm,
hoping
it
will
improve
for
the
summer
long
story.
D
Short
I
I
believe
that,
for
the
lived
experience
of
parents,
if
that
process
is
less
frustrating,
it's
going
to
feel
less,
constraining
and
less
like.
There
are
gaps
in
the
system,
That's
My
Hope
anyway.
But
what
that
you
know
sort
of
that
analysis
also
ensuring
there
are
enough
staff
for
our
camps,
which
is
a
big
challenge
has
done,
is
I,
think
clarify
the
opportunities
to
work
with
schools
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
specific
one
that
Christian
and
I
were
just
talking
with
the
superintendent
and
our
counterparts
about
last
month.
D
Was
this
desire
that
APS
has
that
some
of
the
kids
who
are
in
summer
school
should
be
able
to
try
to
get
a
day
or
two
of
just
Camp
fun
enrichment
a
week
right
because
summer
school
is
tough
and
we
know
this
is
often
our
you
know,
kids,
who
who
are
challenged
against
Richmond
enrichment
programs
year
round?
So
so
what
could
we
do
there?
Well,
we
know
that,
because
it's
really
hard
to
staff
our
camps
already.
D
We
don't
really
have
the
staff
to
just
do
one
day
a
week,
but
we
do
have
the
space
and
we
do
have
you
know,
camp
sites
where,
where
kids
come
together
across
different
programs-
and
so
you
know
the
superintendent
had
suggested
well
I
think
we've
got
the
the
extended
day
staff
who
can
be
there.
D
I
think
those
come
back
down
to
staffing
issues.
It
just
can
be
really
hard
to
find
the
staff
who
can
work
for
one
day
or
even
two
days
for
a
teacher
work
day.
There's
no
Silver
Bullet
to
it.
I
I
do
agree
with
Christian
that
I
don't
think
it's
a
kind
of
a
lack
of
a
coordination.
That's
causing
it
I.
Think
it's
a
staffing
issue,
but
I
I
know
I
mean
I.
Think
any
of
us
have
had
that
experience
of
school,
in
my
case,
preschool
being
canceled
unexpectedly
or
even
expectedly.
D
If
there
are
you
know,
students
who
need
their
in-service
hours
as
they
get
their
education
degrees,
is
there
a
way
we
can
draw
on
them
more
I
know
they're
over
turning
over
every
rock
that
they
can
so
coordination
with
with
schools
on
the
campsite.
Recognizing
that
that
day
off
camps
would
be
a
priority.
If
we
can
tackle
the
Staffing
and
just
improving
the
process
of
registration
for
parents,
I,
think
and
I
hope
will
help.
E
Well,
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
some
in
our
audience
would
disagree
with
that
statement
and
I
just
I'm
glad
you
raised
the
question
and
I
I
think
where
you
ended.
Katie
is
because
I
got
to
spend
time
with
you,
and
you
asked
that
precise
question
I
went
to
DPR
I
did
find
out
that
that
the
Staffing
issue
is
the
specific
concern
with
respect
to
the
days
off
and
because
reasonably
and
correctly
we
can't
have
three
of
us
in
any
meeting.
These
two
are
in
the
leadership
meetings,
but
I
sort
of
ran
that
down.
E
That's
what
I
found
and
I
do
think.
There's
still
a
mismatch
between
the
desire
due
to
the
number
of
days
off
the
desire
for
slots
and
the
total
number
that
the
contractors
the
DPR
engages
can
actually
work
on
so
Jane
mentioned
hiring
hiring,
hiring
a
problem,
they're
doing
better
with
contractors,
so
they're
up
in
terms
of
capacity
but
they're,
not
at
the
capacity
that
you
want
for
your
child,
so
I
sort
of
have
wanted
to
mention
that,
so
that
both
you
ask
the
question
and
we
gave
an
answer.
E
It's
sort
of
a
real
life
example
of
how
we
worked
on
it.
If
we
want
to
work
on
it
differently
to
make
more
measurable,
measurable
progress,
we
need
to
think
about
how
it
could
be
different
and
it
may
be
really
hard
because
of
that
Staffing
issue
and
Contracting
for
those
five
seven
days
but
open
to
it,
because
I
don't
want
you
to
just
feel
you
ask
a
question,
and
then
you
got
an
answer
and
there's
no
way
to
work
on
it.
F
A
C
That
I
will
be
very
concise.
Thank
you
Frank,
it
is,
it
is.
There
is
no
no
day
passes
without
us
thinking
about
storm
Waters,
one
way
or
the
other,
and
believe
me
when
we
had
our
cap
discussion
last
last
year,
300
million
dollars
plus
is
not
a
it's,
not
small
change
to
to
dedicate
to
that.
So
you
bet
that
you're.
We
are
very,
very
keen
to
understand
the
inherent
risks
and
the
best
strategies
to
to
work
through
that.
C
What
exactly
the
the
the
sequence
of
of
information
will
be
in
the
process?
We
will
have
to
discuss
it
with
the
equity
manager
so
that
we
have
a
a
good
and
transparent
way
to
to
brief
the
public
to
to
be
briefed
ourselves
and
and
to
to
engage
in
discussion
about
what
What's
Next
I
do
believe
that
this
past
year
we
all
had
a
far
better
understanding
of
the
order
of
magnitude
of
the
task
and
300
million
dollars,
as
I
said,
is
an
indication
of
this.