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A
Good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
welcome
to
the
last
meeting
of
the
2022
year
for
the
Arlington
County
Board
or
the
penultimate
meeting
since
we'll
be
back
on
Tuesday
glad
to
have
you
with
us
today
in
high
holiday
Spirits.
This
is
Katie
Crystal
speaking
chair
of
the
County
Board
joined
today
by
my
colleagues,
Vice
chairman
Dorsey
Mr
Karen
Thomas,
Mr,
defranti
and
Ms
Garvey,
recently
recognized
as
one
of
the
leading
elected
officials
in
the
region
by
the
Council
of
governments.
Congratulations.
A
A
As
noted,
some
members
are
public
as
well
as
County
staff
and
other
presenters
will
be
participating
remotely
as
part
of
our
hybrid
meeting
model.
You
can
help
them
hear
you,
when
you're
using
the
microphone
by
adjusting
that
Podium
up
or
down
by
using
the
arrows
on
your
right
by
speaking
clearly
into
the
microphone
which
is
on
right
now
that
ensures
everyone
can
hear
you
and
the
recording
can
pick
you
up
as
well
for
the
feed.
A
If
you
are
submitting
documents
as
part
of
your
testimony
today,
we
ask
that
you
hand
them
to
your
clerk
to
the
clerk
rather
than
to
us
individually,
to
include
your
name
and
contact
information
on
them.
That
will
be
helpful
to
us.
So
we
know
how
to
follow
up
with
you
for
remote
speakers.
Please
do
keep
your
microphones
muted
and
your
camera
off
until
you're
called
to
speak.
That
helps
us
preserve
bandwidth.
A
A
Okay,
it
will
give
you
I've
got
a
few
more
elements
of
my
Spiel
to
get
through
we'll
see
if
she's
joined
us
in
the
meantime.
Okay,
notably,
although
hopefully
we
are
not
anticipating
too
long
of
a
comment
period
today,
but
you
might
find
that
we
need
to
get
up
and
stretch
our
legs.
If
you
lose
sight
of
us,
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
hear
you.
We've
got
Audio
and
Video
in
the
back
and
are
listening
even
if
we
briefly
disappear
from
view,
as
has
been
my
practice
throughout
the
2022
Year
I'll.
A
Just
note,
our
one
speaker
per
topic,
rule
on
public
comment
is
designed
to
make
sure
that
we
can
be
fair
to
and
hear
from
as
many
arlingtonians
as
possible.
We
are
very
grateful
to
those
who
have
joined
us
in
cooperating
on
that
one
speaker
per
topic
rule
so
that
we
can
stay
fair
and
consistent.
There
are,
however,
other
ways
that
you
can.
A
Let
us
on
the
County
Board,
know
about
an
issue
and
share
your
thoughts,
including
in
more
Dynamic
conversational
ways
at
Open,
Door,
Monday
or
writing
us
at
County
board
at
arlingtonva.us,
our
clerks,
Miss,
Jacobs
and
Mr
Kushner
are
outside
and
at
your
disposal.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
how
to
sign
up
for
Open,
Door,
Monday
or
other
engagement
opportunities,
I
believe
that
concludes
my
opening
remarks
and
unless
we've
got
our
Spanish
speaker
to
introduce
yourself
I
think
we
are
ready
for
our
public
comment.
Speakers
Ms
Jacobs,
if
you
could
call
those
speakers
for
us.
A
Good
morning,
Phil.
A
Are
You
Phillip
Andrea
stay
with
us
for
a
minute.
Do
we
know
if
Phil
is
virtual
or
in
person
supposed.
C
I
understand
it's
already
a
done
deal,
but
I
want
to
immediately
object
to
the
presence
of
the
gun
shop
in
the
2600
block
of
Wilson
Boulevard.
Two
days
after
it
opened.
There
was
a
robbery
at
that
store
and
somebody
walked
out
of
the
store
with
a
gun.
Apparently
he
was
apprehended
on
the
street.
What
I
worry
about
is
not
only
is
that
gun
store
less
than
a
quarter
of
a
mile
from
an
elementary
school,
but
the
next
time
it's
robbed.
People
will
know
you
can't
just
walk
out.
C
You
can
actually
go
in
there
with
guns
and
steal
guns
and
two
blocks
down
the
road.
A
cannabis
store
is
about
to
open,
so
it
was
in
our
Arlington
resident
who
lives
nearby
cannabis
and
a
gun
shop,
and
a
quarter
mile
radius
of
an
elementary
school
doesn't
strike
me
as
a
good
idea.
So
hopefully
next
you
won't
have
a
strip
bar
on
the
same
block,
because,
basically
I
don't
think
these
are
good
developments
and
I
understand
it's
a
done
deal.
Someone
told
me
it's
a
as
right
of
occupancy.
C
A
D
Good
morning
morning
my
name
is
Carla
guerrell
I'm,
a
long
time,
Arlington
resident
a
retired,
Presbyterian
Minister
and
a
volunteer
at
Gilliam
place
today.
I
speak
on
behalf
of
voice.
Thank
you
to
the
board
for
recognizing
the
critical
need
for
housing
and
taking
the
initiative
on
this
issue.
My
family
moved
here
in
1952
and
we
first
lived
in
a
small
Rambler
near
Yorktown
and
later
we
moved
to
a
new
home
in
Riverwood
When.
We
married
I
bought
a
house
near
Jamestown
Elementary,
where
we
first
could
barely
afford.
The
mortgage.
After
raising
three
sons.
D
I
now
live
in
South
Arlington
in
a
two-bedroom
one-bath
house,
I
love
the
diversity
in
my
neighborhood
and
being
able
to
walk
to
the
grocery
my
church
and
the
shops
on
Columbia
Pike
change
has
come
to
every
neighborhood
that
I've
lived
in
and
more
change
is
inevitable.
My
question
is:
who
will
be
able
to
afford
new
housing
opportunities?
D
D
D
B
F
I'm
glad
to
be
here
and
congratulations
on
Social
Security
good
morning,
Madam
chair
Vice,
chair
of
members
of
the
board,
I'm
Julius
Spain,
president
of
Arlington,
Branch
NAACP,
just
a
few
things
here
in
my
two
minutes
says
this
is
my
last
meeting
before
you
as
president,
but
we
sent
you
a
letter
on
December,
2nd
referencing
plan,
Langston,
Boulevard
and
there's
a
few
things
we
just
want
to
know.
F
Naacp
does
right
that,
as
we
laid
out
in
our
letter
plan,
Langston
Boulevard
needs
to
meet,
and
this
is
the
opinion
of
the
NAACP
right
meet
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
goals
for
the
Langston
plan,
Langston
Boulevard
Corridor.
So
you
know
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
called
for
creation
or
preservation,
as
we
laid
out
in
a
letter
of
2500,
affordable
housing
units
Allah
long
legs
in
the
Boulevard
by
2040..
F
But
what
we're
seeing
is
that
the
preliminary
concept
plan
falls
short
of
that
right.
So
we
we
want
you
to
pay
strict
attention
to
that
our
letter
and
as
we
go
through
this
process
and
that
the
county
needs
to
do.
You
know
a
better
job
and
engaging
with
our
communities
of
color
by
Park
our
renters,
our
low
income,
as
we
plan
this
out.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
just
bring
to
your
attention
is
on
today's
agenda
is
item
19
as
it
relates
to
ranked
Choice
voting.
F
F
You
know,
in
my
opinion,
Falls
a
bit
short.
We
lined
us
up
with
our
Equity
resolution,
which
is
you
know,
we're
trying
to
commit
to
developing
an
equitable
Equitable
approach
in
all
of
our
decision
making
right.
Thank
you.
So
I
I
think
we
just
need.
A
A
G
Hi
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
airport.
It
produces
obviously
a
lot
of
noise
pollution,
a
lot
of
air
pollution
and
a
lot
of
carbon
pollution
and
Airlines.
Don't
really
have
much
of
a
viable
path
forward
in
terms
of
decarbonization
and
in
order
to
meet
our
country's
climate
goals,
we
are
going
to
have
to
reduce
air
travel.
G
Far
in
the
future,
but
probably
within
the
County's
50-year
or
so
planning
Horizon,
there
will
come
a
time
when
Reagan
airport
is
no
longer
necessary
and
so
I
think
the
county
should
start
at
least
thinking
about
planning
on
how
to
redevelop
the
airport
into
something
else,
because
it
is
a
very
large
plot
of
land
that
is
in
a
dense
area
on
the
waterfront
and
is
highly
highly
desirable.
G
H
Good
morning
board
members
I'm
Peter
harnick
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Park
and
Recreation
Commission,
but
I'm
speaking
on
my
own
I
want
to
talk
about
Quincy
Park
I
come
here
every
few
years
to
talk
about
Quincy,
Park
and
hopefully
you'll
you'll
be
getting
a
little
drawing
of
of
what
I
my
my
concept
for
making
Quincy
park
into
a
better
Central
Park
for
Arlington.
H
Obviously,
there's
Quincy
Park
is
extremely
well
located.
It's
the
largest
flat
area
in
the
in
the
county
and
it's
surrounded
by
thousands
and
thousands
of
Apartments
people
that
don't
have
any
open
space
for
their
own
use
and
I
think
it
would
make
a
beautiful
space
for
a
Central
Park,
maybe
even
have
a
pond
in
it,
and
and
of
course
that
would
involve
a
lot
of
discussions
with
the
community
as
to
the
best
use
of
the
park.
But
the
only
way
to
have
that
discussion
would
be
to
have
a
a
planning
process
for
Quincy.
H
Park
Quincy
is
now
think
on
the
capital
Improvement
plan
for
the
county,
but
it's
way
down
and
due
to
I'm,
not
sure
when
2030
or
something
like
that,
it's
meanwhile,
we
keep
hearing.
All
kinds
of
ideas
for
Quincy
Park
that
Marymount
might
want
to
build
a
stadium
in
it
and
and
who
knows
what?
It's,
not
a
vacant
piece
of
public
land
for
all
kinds
of
other
institutions
to
utilize.
It
really
needs
its
own
plan.
I
think
we
need
a
a
robust
conversation
about.
You
know
having
a
beautiful
place
with
walkways
and
nice
benches.
H
Not
you
know
not
bleachers
that
you
have
to
sit
on
to
hold
the
hands
with
your
loved
one
or
something
like
that
and
maybe
dealing
with
the
excess
amount
of
parking
in
there.
A
lot
of
other
things
like
that,
so
I
I
hope
we
can
move
up
the
planning
process
for
Quincy
Park
to
something
more
realistic
before
a
whole
bunch
new
ideas
get
thrown
into
the
mix
without
the
county
having
charge
of
it.
B
I
will
call
their
names
I,
don't
see
them
online.
But
let's
see
if
Philip
or
Philly
Audrey
Clement.
A
Okay,
well,
in
that
case,
thank
you
to
those
who've
come
in
or
spoke
online
with
us
this
morning.
We
definitely
appreciate
hearing
from
you
all
and
the
range
of
issues
covered
this
morning.
I
think
is
emblematic
of
what
public
comment
is
it's
an
opportunity
to
present,
especially
some
things
that
maybe
otherwise
wouldn't
be
on
the
radar
I'll
take
just
a
few
moments
to
respond
and
then
ask
my
colleagues
to
join
with
any
other
thoughts.
Ms
degroni,
with
your
comments
about
the
gun
shop
on
Wilson
Boulevard,
we
agree
with
you.
A
We
are
deeply
constrained
by
state
regulation
that
does
not
allow
localities
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
to
take
any
steps
to
regulate
the
sale
of
guns
beyond
what
is
allowed
by
right,
so
by
right
is,
is
simply
the
planning
framework
that
says
as
long
as
you
are
in
compliance
with
the
zoning
code,
you
can
move
forward.
So
it's
what
would
allow,
for
example,
a
clothing
shop
to
establish
there.
The
the
Commonwealth
has
constrained
us
from
further
regulating
the
sale
of
guns
within
our
County's
borders.
A
This
is
a
source
of
enormous
frustration
to
the
five
of
us,
particularly
in
an
era
of
gun
violence.
This
is
something
we
actually
talked
about
just
a
few
months
ago.
Tragically,
we
have
many
occasions
too,
given
the
frequency
of
mass
shootings
in
this
country
and
I
know
observing
the
unbelievably
10th
anniversary
of
Sandy
Hook.
It
is
on
our
minds
yet
again
we
have
made
efforts
in
the
past
to
express
the
I
think
overwhelming
will
of
the
board
as
well
as
the
community,
that
this
is
not
a
neighboring
use
that
we
welcome
in
our
community.
A
We
don't
think
it's
compatible
with
our
goals
that
try
to
create
a
community
that
is,
as
you
mentioned,
and
proximity
to
a
school
friendly
to
families
and
and
inclusive
to
all.
I.
Don't
know
I'm
going
to
maybe
just
turn
to
our
attorney
to
see
if
there's
anything,
I've
missed
or
inaccurately
characterized.
A
With
regard
to
the
constraints
on
us,
when
it
comes
to
regulating
the
sale
of
firearms
in
our
community,
no,
unfortunately
you've
hit
it
hit
it
all
yeah,
so
I
I
will
say
you
know
we
continue
to
push
for
a
pretty
lengthy
agenda
at
the
state
level
when
it
comes
to
local
authorities
to
regulate
Firearms.
A
One
of
those
is
asking
members
of
the
general
assembly
to
take
on
or
amend
the
framework
that
to
the
preemption
ordinance
that
essentially,
over
and
above
constrains
localities
when
it
comes
to
the
regulation
of
firearms,
so
that
we
can
at
least
craft
solutions
that
make
sense
for
our
community.
That
continues
to
be
a
priority.
We're
fortunate
to
have
strong
legislators
in
our
delegation
who
have
supported
us
in
these
efforts
in
recent
years
that
we've
not
been
able
to
effectuate
the
change
at
the
the
Statewide
level.
A
We've
hoped
to
allow
us
to
better
design
local
ordinances
in
the
meantime.
I
am
sorry
to
hear
it.
If
there
is,
you
know,
certainly,
as
you
mentioned
the
burglary,
when
there
are
way
ways
that
we
can
respond
to
the
the
unsafe
spillover
of
having
that
use.
I
know
that's
something
that
our
police
are
very
interested
in,
that
we're
interested
in
the
board
and,
if
there's
any
more,
we
can
do
in
following
up
on
those
specific
incidences.
We'd
welcome
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
on
that
Reverend
Coral.
A
A
President
Spain,
thank
you
for
your
comments
about
plan
Langston
Boulevard.
We
really
appreciated
your
letter
and
we
also
received
a
similar
one
from
the
alliance
for
Housing
Solutions.
Regarding
the
issue
of
affordability,
I
hope
that
you
are
in
receipt
in
turn
from
us
of
a
response,
but
I'll
share
just
a
couple
of
highlights
with
regard
to
hitting
those
affordability
targets
that
is,
of
course,
related
to
density
and
Heights
on
plan
Langston
Boulevard.
As
the
the
the
preliminary
concept
plan
moves
forward.
A
Continue
conversations
are
continuing
with
staff
re-engaging
with
other
leaders
in
the
community
about
thinking
where
we
can
continue
to
increase
building
Heights
Beyond,
what's
shown
in
the
preliminary
concept
plan
as
a
way
of
getting
to
more
housing
and
wherever
possible,
more
committed,
affordable
housing
units.
So
we
are
between
now
and
the
release
of
a
draft
plan
hoping
to
be
able
to
show
opportunities
for
increased
density.
I,
think
that
is
something
that
is
weighing
heavily
on
each
of
our
minds
when
we
think
about
the
future
of
Link
symbol
of
our
our
affordable
housing
master
plan.
A
Exactly,
as
you
said,
president
Spain
envisions
Langston
Boulevard
is
a
key
opportunity
to
achieve
committed,
affordable
homes,
north
of
the
Orange
Line
Corridor,
probably
our
best
opportunity
to
do
it,
and-
and
we
don't
want
to
miss
that
as
we
try
to
balance
the
many
values
and
aspirations
at
play.
I
also
appreciated
your
point
about
Community
engagement
on
plan
links
in
Boulevard
and
trying
to
do
that
equitably.
A
I
had
gotten
a
summary
from
our
staff
about
some
of
the
activities
in
which
they've
been
engaged
and
want
to
highlight
just
a
few,
certainly
that
that
Equity
lens
and
engagement
has
really
been
an
important
one
for
the
team
working
on
plan.
Langston
Boulevard.
They
have
done
focus
groups
and
engagement
events
specifically
at
three
affordable
housing
properties.
The
Larkspur
helper
banners
lucky
Gardens
to
really
Reach
people
directly,
quite
literally,
where
they
are
in
their
homes,
so
that
the
the
vision
of
people
living
in
committed,
affordable
housing,
our
neighbors
living
in
affordable
housing
is
included.
A
Within
that
plan
they
have
been
walking
Langston,
Boulevard,
literally
pacing
the
streets
passing
on
information
in
English
and
Spanish
about
how
to
engage
they've
been
meeting
with
residents
at
bus
stops,
doing
focus
groups
at
the
Langston
Brown
Community,
Center
and
area
playgrounds.
A
The
Spanish
translation
of
the
plan,
links
and
Boulevard
webpage
contract
content
was
added
online
a
few
months
ago
and
in
addition,
they've
been
doing
they've
done
more
than
80
personalized
and
individualized
Outreach
to
non-profit
and
advocacy
organizations,
churches,
Legacy,
businesses,
multi-family
properties,
that
includes
Callaway
Church,
Moore's,
Barber
Shop,
the
nwcp
itself.
As
you
know,
affordable
housing
organizations,
we
often
look
to
trusted
Partners
to
try
to
help
us
get
the
word
out.
A
All
of
that
said,
we
know
there
is
more
that
we
can
do.
We
are
swimming
Upstream
of
probably
many
years
of
habits
that
didn't
prioritize
or
underrepresented,
certain
voices
relative
to
others,
and
so
we
really
welcome
feedback
from
the
nwcp
from
other
partner
organizations
about
whose
voices
are
still
not
being
included
and
advice
that
you
have
for
us
about
how
to
reach
them
either
in
terms
of
tactics
or
who
the
trusted
partners
are
that
we
should
be
working
towards.
That
is
also
the
case
for
ranked
Trace
voting
really
appreciate
the
point.
A
The
observation
that
the
planned
engagement
is
may
not
be
sufficient.
President
Spain
really
appreciate
that
point.
I
know
we
are
all
me
in
particular
very
excited
to
work
with
the
the
the
Electoral
board
in
our
registrar
in
getting
the
word
out
about
this
new
system
of
voting,
so
that
everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
express
the
full
range
of
their
preferences.
A
Should
this
pass
later
on
the
consent
agenda
today
and
don't
want
to
miss
that
opportunity
so
really
appreciate
your
exhortation
and
partnership
on
that
Mr
I'm
busy.
Thank
you
for
coming
forward
with
thoughts
about
the
future
of
Reagan
National
Airport.
It's
an
interesting
kind
of
set
of
long-range
forecasts.
There
was
interesting
in
Arlington,
even
within
our
26
square
miles.
A
We
work
with
a
lot
of
institutional
partners
that
are
bigger
than
us,
be
that
the
Arlington
National
Cemetery
or,
of
course,
the
Metropolitan
Washington's
airports,
Authority
I
I,
can
tell
you
being
somewhat
familiar
with
the
Strategic
plan.
They
certainly
don't
see
it
as
part
of
their
long-range
plan
to
fold
those
operations
within
Arlington
I
can
tell
you
the
operations
that
airport
are
very
popular
with
members
of
Congress,
for
example,
who
are
very
committed
to
keeping
that
airport
open.
A
That
said,
there
is
a
lot
that
we
can
do
to
manage
its
impacts,
including
I,
really
appreciate
your
point
about
perhaps
the
incompatibility
with
our
carbon
neutrality
goals.
If
nothing
else,
we
are
very
committed
to
ensuring
adequate
access
for
more
low
carbon
ways
of
accessing
the
airport.
A
Adequate
access
by
more
low
carbon
means
of
transportation,
whether
that
is
better
alignment
with
the
Metro
system
or
looking
for
ways
to
minimize
the
impacts
of
single
occupancy
Vehicles
arriving
at
that
airport
and
the
impacts
that
can
make
in
our
neighborhood
and,
of
course,
when
it
comes
to
airport
noise
and
the
other
spillover
effects,
our
colleagues
have
been
working
really
hard
as
part
of
regional
work
groups
to
address
those
as
well
speaking
of
things
where
we
do
have
control.
However,
within
our
within
our
own,
our
own
fate.
A
Mr
harnick
appreciate
your
coming
forward
about
Quincy
Park
I.
This
is
a
really
lovely,
rendering
and
I.
Think
I'm
trying
to
hold
it
up.
I
think
really
shows
the
potential
of
the
vision
for
Arlington,
Central,
Park
I.
Think
that's
a
that's
a
vision
that
has
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
in
the
community
and
I
would
ascribe
you
know
myself
to
it
as
well.
I
especially
appreciate
your
point.
A
This
is
not
a
vacant
piece
of
land
for
others
to
speculate
about
uses,
and
so
you
want
to
just
you
know
say
that
we,
your
your
observation,
lands
that
probably
the
best
way
we
can
make
it
clear
that
we're
committed
to
that
Vision
might
be
to
move
up
the
timing
right
now.
You're
right
it
is
in
our
CIP.
It
is
about
seven
years
out
that
Master
planning
exercise
and
appreciate
your
point
about
looking
to
move
it
up.
A
I
know
we
are
going
to
Blink
and
be
at
the
CIP
in
the
update
in
in
about
another
18
months,
but
between
now
and
then
the
opportunity
for
us
to
really
Elevate
the
vision.
There
look
for
you
know
midterm
improvements
Etc
so
that
it
doesn't
become
a
site
of
speculation
when
actually
it
is
a
true
Community,
gem
colleagues,
other
comments,
I
think
I
saw
Mr
Dorsey.
First
then
Mr
Karen
Thomas
thank.
I
You,
madam
chair
I,
appreciate
the
summary
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
a
couple
of
more
bits
to
Ms
negroni's
concerns
about
the
gun
store
and
just
to
make
sure
you
understand
the
circumstances
that
we're
in,
in
addition
to
the
Commonwealth,
not
at
this
point,
allowing
localities
to
treat
gun
stores
any
differently
than
any
other
retail
use.
That
is
something
that
we
are
prohibited
from
doing,
and
you
know
it's.
It
stands
as
something
that
is
a
surprise
to
people
who
come
from
places
that
have
greater
authority
to
control
nuisance
or
problematic
retail
establishments.
I
It's
it's
Authority
that
we
don't
have,
but
I
do
want
to
just
note
that
in
the
Commonwealth
there
have
been,
thankfully,
some
significant
improvements
over
the
last
several
years
and
overall
approaches
to
gun
safety.
At
one
point,
Virginia
was
at
the
bottom
really
of
states
that,
with
regard
to
their
gun,
gun
safety
laws,
we
are
now
in
the
top.
I
So,
unfortunately,
it's
not
Authority
that
we
have
now
but
I,
think
there
is
momentum
and
if
political
circumstances
change,
we
could
perhaps
see
greater
Authority
in
the
future.
Thank.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
fully
agree
with
Mr
Dorsey
on
the
issue
of
guns.
One
thing
that
really
horrifies
me
Mr
Negroni,
is
the
issue
that
something
like
a
burglary
like
that.
That
happened
can
happen
and
I
definitely
commit
to
look
again
and
double
check.
What
kind
of
you
know
special
attention
to
the
safety
precautions
that
these
shops
have
to
take?
We
can
we
can
provide.
This
is
an
important
part,
Miss
Corral.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
testimony.
J
I
know
where
it
comes
from
I
respect
that
a
lot
and
thank
you
for
your
overall
contribution
and
voices
contribution
of
this
conversation
to
Mr
Spain
president
Spain
I,
in
addition
to
the
to
the
complete
expose
of
all
the
engagement
opportunities
and
activities
right
now,
which
will
never
be
really
enough.
I
just
want
to
add
to
the
affordable
housing
element.
I
do
think
that
we
have
received
significant
testimony,
and
you
know
there
is.
J
There
is
significant
discussion
in
ongoing
design
shops
right
now
that
will
improve
the
planned
capacity
of
the
quarter
to
to
provide
affordable
housing
in
the
future.
I
I
just
think
you
know
invite
everybody
involved
to
to
engage
in
these
ongoing
efforts
Mr
in
Basie.
These
are
very,
very
interesting
thoughts.
I
want
to
add
two
twists
on
that
number
one.
Yes,
the
the
the
Metro
connection,
which
we
here
have
have
really
you
know,
pursued
and
tried
to
support
and
gotten
done
after
40
years
will
balance
the
the
load
of
these
two
airports.
J
So
therefore,
I
think
that
will
also
improve
our
ability
to
think
about
car
decarbonization
in
in
the
general
setting
of
of
transportation.
From
the
point
of
view
of
Transportation,
I
want
to
note
that
both
airports
are
still
not
connected
to
something
that
is
absolutely
critical
for
any
future
here,
which
is
their
their
connection
to
long-range
train
connections
along
the
entire
East
Coast
50
million
people
affected.
Here
we
have
only
two
airports
that
I
know
of
maybe
I
miss
one
bmy
and
and
Newark
that
have
a
direct
train
connection.
J
270
million
people
are
taking
any
train,
local
or
or
or
a
long
range
long-haul
in
this
region.
Only
16
million
are
actually
traveling
with
Amtrak
and
that's
a
very
big
problem
and
I
think
that
you
know,
chair
Crystal
has
been
working
on
VRE
for
a
very
long
time.
We
are
really
trying
to
align
these
critical
assets
that
will
make
short
haul
travel,
which
is
the
most
carbon.
J
You
know
the
biggest
carbon
sin
here
obsolete
in
the
future
and
even
Congress
will
agree
with
that,
because
it
will
be
easier
to
go
down
to
to
to
Union
Station
and
take
a
a
train
for
a
one
one
hour
ride
to
New
York
City.
So
we
we
are
really
working
a
way
really
and
we
are
also
planning
for
the
future
of
the
entire
Riverfront
of
Arlington.
J
If
you
see
it
is
prominent
in
our
list
of
planning,
Horizon
items
and
that
doesn't
include
directly
the
airport
but
includes
a
conceptual
understanding
of
how
we
are
going
to
improve
our
you
know
Frontage
to
the
to
the
river.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
I
appreciate
that
point
and
with
the
Long
Bridge
expansion
on
its
way
we
are
excited.
Maybe
perhaps
we
might
even
be
able
to
Prevail
upon
Amtrak
to
try
out
a
stop
or
two
at
our
Crystal
City
station,
which
is
already
built
for
VRE
to
be
able
to
make
that
connection
particularly
paired
with
the
multimodal
Bridge
from
downtown
Crystal
City
to
Reagan
National
Airport.
That
level
of
connectivity
to
to
Regional
Rail
is
really
well
put.
So
thank
you
for
raising
that
point.
A
K
Just
a
you
know:
I'm
gonna
go
backwards
in
the
list
and
start
with
Mr
harnick
Peter
I've
known
you
for
years
and
I
think
I've
been
on
the
board
long
enough.
This
is
your
third
pass
with
me
on
Quincy
Park.
Thank
you.
The
design
is
great.
Marymount
University
has
got
plans
for
a
number
of
our
Parcels.
K
There
are
Parcels,
don't
let
them
worry.
You
too
much
just
say
that
I
mean
their
Partners
were
happy
to
talk
to
people,
but
they
are
our
Parcels,
so
don't
feel
like
somebody's
going
to
tell
us
what
to
do
with
our
property.
So
thank
you
and
then
Mr
and
Beezy,
and
thank
you
for
that.
Actually,
Amtrak
is
you
know
they
are
building
a
station
in
Crystal
City,
there's
going
to
be
Amtrak
and
VRE,
which
is
really
exciting.
K
We
do
have
issues
with
airplane
noise
and
is
Mr
and
BC
still
here
yeah,
and
we
are
also
I
think
in
50
years,
I'm
really
hopeful
we're
gonna
have
different
kinds
of
ways
to
propel
things.
I
mean
they
are
talking
about.
Electric
airplanes
I
think
that
doesn't
work
too
well,
but
maybe
hydrogen
maybe
Fusion
anyway
in
50
years.
Hopefully
we'll
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
changes
that
will
make
airplanes
both
quieter
and
much
more
carbon
neutral
and
then
Reverend
gorrell.
K
Thank
you
so
much
I
do
want
to
just
because
we
talk
about
you,
know
missing,
but
we're
hoping
to
provide
a
lot
more
that'll
have
more
housing
in
the
in
the
hole
which
does
tend
to
lower
prices.
That's
how
Economics
work,
but
our
focus
on
missing,
Middlebelt
and
right
now
is
really
more
on
having
different
forms
of
housing
so
as
you're
downsizing
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
find
a
place
here.
K
So
everything
from
a
large
you
know
single
family
home
to
being
able
to
have
a
small,
perhaps
apartment,
and
not
only
in
the
urban
corridors,
but
but
elsewhere.
We're
also
just
looking
at
giving
flexibility
for
everybody,
and
it's
not
it's
not
just
about
which
it.
This
whole
discussion
gets
carried
away
on
a
whole
lot
of
different
things
and
people
focus
on
what
they
want
and
what
they're
interested
in.
K
But
it
really
is
about
providing
different
forms
and
flexibility
which
we
all
need
because,
as
we
age
and
change
in
our
lives,
we
have
different
needs
for
for
our
housing
and
then
lastly
Negroni.
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
in
and
we've
talked
about
the
state
level.
I
mean
it's
really,
it's
a
national
I
mean
Americans
are
somehow
we're,
just
we're
just
mentally
ill
about
guns,
which
is
crazy.
We
just
are
it's
it's
and
I
think
we'll
come
to
our
Senses.
K
At
some
point,
we
all
have
to
wonder
when
but
I'm
sure
we
will
at
some
point
so
the
the
only
other
thing
you
know.
Certainly
we
want
to
put
good
people
in
in
office,
and
anybody
wants
to
give
to
anyone
of
the
the
gun,
control
groups
moms
to
Man
action
is
a
really
good
one.
There
are
a
lot
of
really
good
groups,
so
there
is
something
that
we
can
do
individually.
K
It's
it's
going
to
be
incremental,
but
if
we
all
keep
pushing,
keep
speaking
keep
donating
to
groups
that
that
fight,
crazy,
crazy
gun
laws,
I
think
we
will
do
better.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
different
things.
We
can
do
both
locally
and
nationally,
and
that's
it.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
Miss,
karell
I
just
wanted
to
a
couple
of
things.
One
thing
you
said
struck
change
has
come
to
every
neighborhood
and
I
think
that
sometimes
gets
lost
in
the
discussion.
It's
not
whether
we
change
it's
how
we
change.
L
So
that's
that's
the
thoughts
that
come
I
really
appreciate
everyone
from
voice
being
here
at
the
broad
level.
This
sentiment,
won't
you
be
my
neighbor,
which
I
think
one
of
you
has
held
up
at
almost
every
other
meeting
certainly
is
Salient
as
we
think
through
the
difficult
issues.
Over
the
next
couple
of
months,
there
will
be
details
that
each
of
us
may
have
slight
differences
on
or
significant
differences
on,
but
we
have
to
move
forward
and
not
just
think
that
we
can
ignore
the
reality
that
we're
going
to
change
as
a
community.
Thanks.
Thank.
A
You
all
right
well,
I
believe.
That
concludes
our
final
public
comment
for
2022..
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
joining
us
this
morning
and
for
the
range
of
issues
you've
brought
to
our
attention.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
these
and
others
in
the
new
year,
all
right,
Madam
clerk.
We
will
now
move
to
our
consent
agenda.
Have
any
items
been
pulled.
A
J
A
Are
we
ready
to
vote
on
that
motion
I,
believe
so
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Okay
that
carries
unanimously.
We
will
hear
that
item
12,
that
motion
to
vacate
on
our
Tuesday
agenda
no
earlier
than
6
30
p.m.
If
you
wish
to
speak
on
that
item,
we
encourage
you
to
visit
the
county
boards
website
at
countyboard.arlingtonva.us
and
sign
up
in
advance.
A
We,
of
course,
with
regard
to
our
consent
items.
The
just
took
a
quite
a
few
actions
here.
Dozens
in
fact
they're
put
on
our
consent
agenda,
I
put
them
on
our
consent
agenda,
because
they're
thought
to
be
non-controversial.
That
doesn't
mean
they're,
not
important,
so
a
few
minutes
to
call
out
just
a
couple
of
the
noteworthy
items
here.
A
First,
this
one
is
really
exciting
and
I
know.
My
colleagues
join
me.
Along
with
the
manager
and
enthusiasm
for
it.
We
have
approved
the
grant
guidelines
and
Grant
agreement
form
for
a
new
historic
preservation
grant
program.
This
is
a
new
community
grant
program
that
will
support
Community,
initiated
initiated
or
events.
Let's
thank
you,
man.
Thank
you
to
support,
Community,
initiated
or
individual
projects
about
preserving
or
spotlighting
Arlington's
history,
including
our
built
environment,
as
well
as
our
heritage.
A
Secondly,
after
quite
a
few
weeks
of
Engagement
a
work
session
that
we
had
just
week
before
last
with
our
general
assembly
delegation,
we
have
approved
a
package
that
outlines
our
priorities
for
the
upcoming
General
Assembly
session.
They
focus
on
broader
themes
like
making
government
more
efficient
and
ensuring
that
the
state
fully
funds
its
commitments
to
services
and
Staffing
before
funding
additional
priorities,
or
certainly
before
using
language
about
a
surplus.
We
are
valuing
the
importance
of
the
general
assembly,
as
we
were
just
actually
noting
in
context
of
regulation
of
firearms.
A
We
know
that
every
action
really
that
they
take
has
an
impact
on
us
here
in
Arlington.
We
are
will
be
guided
by
this
new
legislative
package
in
our
engaging
with
the
general
assembly,
and
we
remain
incredibly
grateful
to
Arlington's
hard-working
delegation
for
for
getting
under
the
hood
of
these
priorities,
better
understanding
them
and
representing
our
interests.
A
Next,
a
request
to
advertise
that
would
amend
the
Arlington
code
to
lower
speed
limits
to
20
miles
an
hour
on
streets
within
a
designated
school
zone.
This
is,
of
course,
so
important
to
the
vision,
zero
conversation
that
we
have
been
having
about
making
Arlington
a
safer
place
for
all
users,
but
especially
our
most
vulnerable
users.
A
I
use
that
term
often
referring
to
to
those
whose
modalities
make
them
more
vulnerable,
like
cyclists
or
walkers.
But
there
really
is
no
population
more
vulnerable
than
our
kiddos
on
their
way
to
school,
and
we
really.
There
are
so
many
benefits
when
our
young
people
can
walk
our
bike
to
school,
but
making
sure
that
they
have
safe
environments
to
do.
It
is
really
a
top
Community
priority,
and
so
we
have,
throughout
the
fall
actually
approved
section
by
section,
lower
speed
limits
along
high-speed
corridors.
A
This
is
about
standardizing
the
speed
limit
in
school
areas
across
the
county,
so
school
areas,
meaning
local
residential
streets
that
are
within
600
feet
of
a
school
access
point
or
a
designated
point
of
school
crossing.
This
is
just
an
RTA.
The
actual
hearing
would
be
held
in
January,
but
this
is
obviously
a
great
opportunity
to
remind
everyone
that
the
the
the
number
one
contributor
to
Serious
crashes
in
our
community
is
speed,
so
please
slow
down.
It
saves
lives,
especially
of
our
young
kids,
on
their
way
to
school.
A
A
This
represents
a
bit
of
a
sea
change
in
the
way
that
Arlington
has
supported
the
development
of
committed,
affordable
housing
because
it
involved
the
acquisition
of
land
as
part
of
a
community
benefit,
and
now
that
land
will
be
handed
off
in
Partnership
through
this
development
agreement
to
a
collaboration
of
APPA
and
eya.
This
is
going
to
support
the
delivery
of
655,
affordable
homes,
as
well
as
almost
200
market
rate
homes.
This
is
a
huge
deal
in
Crystal
City,
which
we
know
is
one
of
our
most
Economic
Opportunity
rich
areas,
most
Transit
oriented
areas.
A
This
is
an
all
hands
on
deck
Challenge,
and
so
it's
really
exciting
to
see
more
tools
prior
to
the
four
all
right.
Many
other
items
on
that
consent
agenda
worthy
of
attention,
including
one
of
importance
to
me
ranked
Choice
voting,
which
will
now
go
into
effect
as
our
mode
of
election
for
the
June
2023
County,
Board
primary
and
a
host
of
other
exciting
opportunities
to
move
our
community
forward.
Again,
we'll
hear
that
item
hold
item
12
on
Tuesday
at
6
30..
We
are
now
ready
to
move
into
a
regular
agenda.
Ms
Jacobs.
A
Oh,
that's
a
mouthful!
Thank
you!
So
much
Mr
manager
I'm
going
to
turn
it
to
you
to
introduce
the
extensive
staff
team.
That's
been
working
on
this
project.
Thank.
M
You,
madam
chair
with
us
this
morning
for
the
presentation
are
Matt
matusik,
I'm,
Courtney
Badger
from
cphd
joined
by
Dennis
selland
from
Des
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
I.
Think
Mr
matusik.
N
N
Good
morning,
chair
and
board
members
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
here
so
I'm
going
to
pause
while
I
do
that.
N
And
today
you'll
be
hearing
a
package
of
six
items
related
to
The
Haven
Apartments
in
the
Boston
Macy's
project.
The
items
will
be
presented
in
the
sequential
order
necessary
to
facilitate
all
components
of
the
package.
My
colleague,
Matt
matusik,
will
be
presenting
on
the
Haven
items,
including
a
neighborhoods
form-based
code,
Amendment
a
used
permit
in
the
certification
of
transferable
density.
Then
I
will
present
on
the
Boston
Macy's
items,
including
the
transfer
development
rights
site
plan,
Amendment
and
encroachment
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Matt.
O
Good
morning,
everyone
for
the
record
I'm
Matt
matusek,
with
the
planning
division
I'm
going
to
cover
the
three
items
involving
the
Haven
apartments
near
Columbia
Pike,
before
handing
it
back
to
miss
Badger
to
present
the
Boston
Macy's
requested
items
next
slide
by
way
of
introduction.
The
Haven
Apartments
are
located
within
the
Western
end
of
Columbia
Pike
Corridor,
specifically
within
the
Arlington
Mill
neighborhood,
while
the
site's
Eastern
Edge
borders
with
several
private
properties.
O
The
Haven
Apartments
also
share
Frontage
with
multiple
public
right-of-ways,
including
7th
Road
South
South,
Florida,
Street
and
8th
Road
South
next
slide
due
to
the
site's
location.
It's
important
to
also
provide
some
broader
context
for
the
adopted
policy
in
this
area.
As
several
earlier
planning
efforts
helped
achieve
a
cohesive
vision
for
the
Columbia
Pike
corridor.
As
an
outcome
of
those
earlier
initiatives,
the
quarter's
Vision
continues
to
be
implemented
through
two
distinct
form-based
codes,
whose
boundaries
are
depicted
on
the
slide.
O
The
Haven
Apartments
specifically
are
Guided
by
the
urban
residential
and
townhouse
small
apartment,
Frontage
types,
those
are
the
orange
and
blue
colors,
which
permit
a
residential
form
of
development,
ranging
from
three
to
six
stories
in
height
I'd,
also
like
to
point
out
The
Pedestrian
pathway
that
is
depicted
on
the
Green
Line
running
north
south.
Throughout
this
western
part
of
Columbia
Pike
across
multiple
properties.
It
represents
a
long-term
vision
for
publicly
accessible
connection,
delivered
incrementally
once
multiple
sites
in
this
neighborhood
redevelop
using
the
neighborhoods
form-based
code
next
slide.
O
While
the
regulating
plan
primarily
focuses
on
Redevelopment
opportunities,
it
also
captures
areas
where
preservation
was
envisioned,
helping
Implement
earlier
planning
work
captured
in
the
2012
Columbia
Pike
neighborhoods
area
plan.
This
exhibit
focuses
on
the
film
or
Garden
Apartments
and
the
bark
of
departments,
both
of
which
represent
the
form-based
code's
conservation
areas,
properties
which
include
historically
significant
buildings,
provide
affordable
housing
and
offer
considerable
open
space
and
tree
canopy
to
help
preserve
these
important
resources.
O
Conservation
areas
are
also
eligible
to
become
sending
sites
for
purposes
of
utilizing
the
transfer
development
rights
by
sending
density
to
another
site
along
Columbia,
Pike
or
elsewhere
in
the
county
in
exchange
for
preservation
and
site
improvements.
As
you're
aware,
one
of
the
applicant's
requests
was
to
convert
the
current
designation
of
the
Haven
Apartments
from
one
that
prescribed
Redevelopment
to
one
which
instead
signaled
preservation
by
establishing
this
property
as
a
conservation
area
within
the
neighborhood's
farm-based
code.
O
While
the
Haven
Apartments
are
much
smaller
in
size
compared
to
the
bar
Croft
and
Fillmore
Garden
Apartments,
they
do
share
several
characteristics,
which
I
would
like
to
summarize
next
slide.
Steph's
analysis
of
this
request
considered
several
defining
characteristics
of
the
existing
two
conservation
areas
and
assess
the
degree
to
which
they
were
also
present
on
the
Haven
Apartments,
considering
that
age
of
construction,
architectural
style
site
layout,
tree
canopy
and
presence
of
a
market
rate,
affordable
housing,
The
Haven
Apartments
were
found
to
be
of
similar
character
as
Barcroft
and
filmal
Garden
Apartments
next
slide.
O
As
a
result,
staff
recommends
the
regulating
plan
for
the
Western
sub-area,
where
the
subject
site
is
located,
be
changed
from
the
existing
version.
You
see
here
on
the
left
to
the
proposed
version
you
see
on
the
right.
This
involves
removing
Redevelopment
potential
that
was
depicted
on
the
surrounding
streets
and
incorporating
the
preservation
color
onto
the
private
property
is
currently
shown
on
the
two
conservation
areas.
O
The
change
will
continue
to
depict
The
Pedestrian
pathway
on
the
map,
as
the
applicant
has
committed
to
installing
a
significant
portion
of
this
connection.
Additionally,
a
new
alley
is
introduced
at
the
rear
of
the
adjacent
property.
To
ensure
proper
access
can
still
be
achieved
if
that
site
were
to
redevelop
under
the
neighborhood's
Farm
based
code
next
slide.
O
Well,
much
of
the
changes
to
the
neighborhood's
farm-based
code
are
captured
in
the
regulating
plan
document.
Some
additional
updates
are
also
warranted
in
part
7
of
the
code.
This
is
where
specific
guidance
exists
for
conservation
areas
and
where
staff
believes
additional
Clarity
could
be
provided
in
terms
of
process
involved
in
preserving
these
sites.
O
We
would
also
use
this
opportunity
to
introduce
the
Haven
Apartments
to
the
list
of
conservation
areas
where
Barcroft
and
film
Garden
Apartments
already
exist
next
slide
separate
from
the
neighborhoods
from
which
code
Amendment
we
just
outlined
I
wanted
to
quickly
touch
on
the
associated
actions
in
front
of
you
this
morning.
These
include
a
use
permit
request
for
the
actual
preservation
of
the
Haven
Apartments,
consistent
with
the
requirements
of
the
neighborhood's
farm-based
code.
O
I
will
note
that,
while
today's
estimate
value
of
these
improvements
is
approximately
2.8
million
dollars,
the
conditions
associated
with
this
use
permit
focus
on
this
scope
and
improvements,
as
well
as
their
schedule
of
delivery.
The
applicant
would
be
obligated
to
complete
these
improvements,
even
if
the
cost
estimate
increase
in
the
future
next
slide.
O
Finally,
as
we
wrap
up
the
actions
involving
the
Haven
Apartments,
the
total
amount
of
density
that
this
new
Conservation
Area
could
send
needs
to
be
certified
through
County
board
approval.
This
step
allows
for
an
opportunity
to
highlight
current
transfer
development
right
policies
both
found
county-wide
and
those
within
the
existing
neighborhoods
Farm
based
code.
O
We
previously
mentioned
the
purposes
of
the
TDR
in
this
instance,
but
it's
also
important
to
highlight
the
density
multipliers
that
were
included
in
the
neighborhoods
from
base
code
to
help
initiate
and
Implement
these
transactions
transactions,
which
typically
were
expected
to
occur
among
different
property
owners.
Since
the
density
is
proposed
to
be
transferred
away
from
Columbia
Pike,
the
applicant
would
use
a
multiplier
of
two
apply
to
the
118
units
at
the
Haven
site,
resulting
in
236
units
that
can
be
sent
to
the
Boston
Macy
site.
N
Thanks
fats,
we're
gonna,
be
switching
over
to
the
Boston
Macy's
site.
Now
the
subject
site
is
located
on
the
Triangular
Block
in
Boston.
It's
within
site
plan
number
193,
which
encompasses
the
totality
of
the
block.
The
site
is
currently
consists
of.
The
Macy's
department
store
with
above
floors
of
vacant
office
space
and
the
site
is
bounded
on
the
Eastern
side
by
Boston
quarter
and
on
the
west
by
a
private
internal
street
that
runs
between
the
existing
Macy's
building
and
the
point
office.
N
Building
the
site
has
a
general
land
use,
planned
designation
of
medium
office
apartment
hotel
and
it's
within
the
co
2.5
zoning
District.
The
site
is
also
within
the
Ballston
sector
plan,
and
there
are
two
past
County
Board
approvals
in
2015
and
16
that
approved
additional
density
in
building
changes
to
this
property
that
were
never
realized.
N
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
transfer
the
236
residential
units
of
density
that
would
be
certified
on
the
Haven
site
that
Matt
just
discussed
to
the
Boston
Macy's
site
to
facilitate
the
development
of
their
new
16-story
mixed-use
residential
building.
Their
proposal
includes
553
residential
units,
12
of
which
would
be
committed,
affordable
units
and
approximately
43
000
square
feet
of
retail,
divided
between
a
grocery
anchor
and
a
smaller
retail
space.
N
Analyzed
this
project
for
compliance
with
a
variety
of
County
goals
and
policies
outlined
in
the
documents
included
here
and
I'm,
going
to
focus
on
some
key
areas
that
we
honed
in
on
early
in
the
review
process.
Staff
in
the
sprc
identified
a
handful
of
things,
ranging
from
site
design
connection
with
the
adjacent
Boston
quarter
and
transportation
that
we
wanted
to
study
further.
N
The
original
smiddle
on
the
left
originally
had
all
the
quote-unquote
back
of
house
uses,
pushed
towards
Glebe
Road
and
the
location
of
the
loading
dock
entry
was
at
the
middle
of
the
Frontage
that
combined
with
above
ground,
Transformers
on
the
corner,
didn't
allow
retail
pedestrian
activation
along
Glebe.
The
revised
plan.
That's
before
you
today
provides
an
improvement
to
the
uses
along
Glebe
Road.
It
undergrounds
the
mechanical
equipment
that
adds
retail
space.
N
The
changes
to
the
ground
floor
design
allowed
for
a
vastly
improved
Glebe
Road
Frontage,
with
the
inclusion
of
retail
and
Retail
equivalent
uses
greater
transparency
at
60
along
Glebe
Road
Which
is
higher
than
what's
called
for
in
our
retail
action
plan.
It
has
now
a
continuous
pedestrian
Zone
without
the
disruption
of
a
loading
dock,
mid-block,
there's
greater
architectural
interest
and
an
improved
streetscape
than
what's
there
today
by
the
removal
of
a
lay-by
lane
on
Glebe.
N
So
another
issue
that
was
identified
at
the
beginning
of
the
project
was
the
connection
or
lack
of
connection
to
Boston
quarter.
Originally,
the
applicant
was
not
proposing
a
ground
floor
connection
to
the
grocery
store
on
the
left.
You
can
see
an
interim
connection
that
was
presented
to
staff
and
on
the
right
is
the
revised
condition.
That's
before
you
today.
This
connection
will
be
constructed
with
knockout
panels
to
allow
for
future
windows
and
transparency.
N
It
has
been
conditioned
to
allow
flexibility
to
have
even
larger
physical
Connection
in
the
grocery
store
in
the
future,
with
coordination
with
Brookfield
the
owner
of
Austin
quarter.
So
the
final
topic
I'll
touch
on
is
transportation.
There
are
four
areas
that
staff
really
focus.
Their
transfer
Transportation
review
on
first
was
the
left
turn
lane
from
Glebe
onto
the
private
Street.
There
originally
were
some
concerns
about
the
the
addition
of
a
turning
movement
and
the
length
of
the
left
turn
pocket
that
was
requested
by
the
applicant
in
in
concerns.
N
That
might
not
be
sufficient
enough.
The
applicant
upon
staff's
request,
study
this
intensely
and
submitted
a
lengthy
63-page
technical
memo
in
response
which
is
available
on
our
public
web
page
and
it
provided
sufficient
analysis
to
demonstrate
that
the
queuing
and
the
traffic
would
not
reach
unacceptable
levels
during
peak
hours.
In
addition,
associated
with
that
staff
really
challenged
the
applicant
to
look
at
pedestrian
safety
at
this
intersection.
N
The
applicant
is
now
proposing
to
implement
a
series
of
mitigation
measures,
including
having
leading
pedestrian
intervals,
which
would
allow
pedestrians
to
utilize
the
crosswalk
prior
to
Vehicles
traffic
light
turning
green.
There
will
be
no
turn
on
red
from
the
private
Street
onto
Glebe.
No
left
turns
out
of
the
private
Street.
N
The
third
thing
we
looked
at
is
the
location
of
the
parking
garage
entrance
for
the
retail
parking.
There
were
some
concerns
about
the
proximity
to
that
entrance
to
the
intersection.
The
applicant
has
since
shifted
the
location
to
give
more
distance,
and
they
have
set
the
garage
gate
back
farther
into
the
garage
to
eliminate
or
to
help
mitigate
cueing
on
the
private
Street.
N
Finally,
I
touched
on
this
earlier.
The
location
of
the
loading
dock
entry
was
moved
to
allow
for
better
a
better
pedestrian
experience
and
better
training
movements
for
the
trucks.
The
applicant
has
agreed
to
have
a
loading
dock
Master
on
the
site
during
all
delivery
times.
The
loading
condition
language
also
includes
a
monitoring
component
that
would
allow
staff
to
have
the
ability
to
require
additional
safety
measures
as
needed.
N
N
N
A
P
Okay
I.
Thank
you
very
much
chair
Crystal
and
County
board
members.
My
name
is
Andrew
Painter
with
the
law
firm
of
Walsh
Colucci
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
in
the
case,
which
is
inside
Property
Group.
Joining
me
at
the
table
is
Dennis,
sellon,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry,
Dan,
Van,
Pelt
who's,
our
traffic
consultant.
P
You
know
it's
as
well
as
Sarah
Davidson
and
Trent
Smith
with
Insight
Property,
Group
and
then
Lauren
Riley
with
Walsh
Colucci
as
well,
and
our
entire
consultant
team
is
available.
Virtually
for
for
questions.
P
I
did
want
to
I
guess
this
is
where
my
mind
was
going
initially.
I
didn't
want
to
express
my
sincere
appreciation
to
Stafford.
You
know
it's
hard
to
work
on
this
Mr
matuzik,
Miss,
Badger,
Mr
selin,
all
of
them
this
process
and
this
project
looks
vastly
different
from
where
it
was
a
year
ago
there
has
been
tremendous
staff
review
analysis,
the
sprc
process,
Community
input.
It
has
made
the
project
better
and
before
delving
into
some
of
the
project.
P
Specifics
I
did
just
want
to
sort
of
step
back
and
just
sort
of
focus
on
the
word
balance
for
just
a
second.
Many
of
you
all
know
that
the
Parkington
Shopping
Center
opened
in
1951.
It
was
the
first
Suburban
Shopping
Center
in
Northern
Virginia.
It
included
a
hex
department
store
which
was
converted
into
a
Macy's
back
in
2006,
and
if
you
go
out
there
today,
you
walk
the
site.
P
You
know
it's,
it's
not
an
altogether
pleasant
experience,
there's
areas
that
are
devoid
of
trees,
there's
no
streetscape
activation.
There
are
pinch
points
on
the
sidewalks
and
thanks
to
the
actions
that
this
board
has
taken,
things
are
changing.
P
It
now
sits
counter
to
many
of
the
more
recent
planning
precepts
that
have
contributed
to
Boston's
Rejuvenation.
So
that's
how
we
approach
the
site
initially
from
our
design.
You
know
we
saw
there
was
a
lot
of
design
challenges,
a
lot
of
opportunity,
but
a
lot
of
design
responsibility
as
well
just
to
focus
on
the
economic
development
aspect
of
this.
P
For
for
a
moment,
while
it
is
next
to
impossible
to
secure
a
replacement,
large
format,
retail
tenant
to
fill
the
Macy's
space
in
today's
environment,
insight
has
managed
to
secure
a
national
credit
Urban
based
grocery
store
for
this
location.
I
think
that's
a
positive
thing.
Insight
has
actually
been
working
the
last
nine
years
with
this
grocer
to
find
a
location
in
Boston
that
works.
The
Grocer's
actually
been
looking
longer
than
that
as
well,
but
we
are
pleased
to
say
that
there
is
a
fully
signed
20-year
lease.
P
They
are
very
excited
about
coming
to
to
this
site
and,
as
Miss
Badger
said
from
a
planning
perspective,
Grocers
are
considered
an
important
amenity
under
the
Arlington
retail
plan.
They're
highlighted
in
the
Boston
sector
plan
and
the
proposed
multi-family
building
above
the
grocer
will
help
fulfill
the
sector
plan's
goal
of
having
a
mix
of
uses
to
help
Drive
the
demand
for
retail
not
only
in
Boston
quarter,
but
the
retail
and
the
restaurants
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
in
the
immediate
vicinity.
So
we
are
very
excited
about
this
opportunity.
P
Ms
Badger
mentioned
that,
after
several
discussions
with
the
mall
owner
and
with
staff,
we
think
that
we
have
found
a
way
to
create
a
meaningful
Place,
making
ground
floor
connection
between
the
mall
and
the
grocery
store.
The
answers
to
the
grocer
will
have
Specialty
Lighting
sort
of
warm
materials
plants,
seating.
P
That
sort
of
thing-
and
then
we've
had
discussions
with
the
mall
owner
for
the
space
above
we
have
agreed
to
commission
a
piece
of
art:
it's
not
counted
towards
the
community
benefits,
but
a
piece
of
art
that
is
going
to
serve
as
an
artistic
Counterpoint
to
what's
known
as
the
Boston
chandelier.
That's
on
the
Eastern
end
of
the
mall
of
Chief
concern.
Throughout
this
process
we
heard
a
consistent
reframe
that
this
project
should
do
whatever
it
can.
However,
it
can
to
stitch
together.
P
Fundamentally
I
think
we
all
know
that
we
cannot
narrow
Glebe
Road,
but
what
we
can
do
is
to
give
people
a
reason
to
actually
want
to
cross
Glebe
and
if
they
choose
to
do
so,
to
do
so
in
a
safe
manner
as
possible.
So
you
know
what
does
that
mean
from
a
land
use
perspective?
Well,
it
means
introducing
a
viable
grocery
store
use.
You
know:
we've
relocated,
all
of
our
building
Transformers
to
below
grade
vaults.
P
We
are
introducing
new
retail
space
at
the
corner
of
the
alley
and
the
7th
Street
intersection
that
will
then
provide
retail
uses
at
both
ends
of
the
alley
to
surface
bookends
and
as
a
Counterpoint
to
what
exists
on
the
other
three
corners
of
the
Glebe
7th
Street
North
intersection
from
a
transportation
perspective.
It
includes
things
like
eliminating
pinch
points
around
the
site,
providing
more
generous,
sidewalks
and
shade
opportunity,
communities,
signal
modifications
and
intersection
improvements.
P
P
There's
been
a
lot
of
dialogue
regarding
the
left
turn
lane.
We
readily
acknowledge
that
the
single
thing
that
the
Transportation
Commission
did
not
support
is
actually
the
one
thing
that
we
met
with
staff
on
two
years
ago
and
just
to
pause
for
a
second
I
think
the
grocer
has
been
very
candid
and
has
shown
a
lot
of
flexibility
during
this
process.
P
But
in
order
to
get
the
Macy's
site
to
work
for
its
business,
they
express
a
desire
to
us
to
have
a
left
turn
into
the
site
from
from
North
gleet.
This
grocer
has
Decades
of
experience
in
urban
grocery
stores.
They
have
about
500
of
them
throughout
the
country,
including
in
Manhattan
and
Chicago
and
DC,
but
their
design
comments
to
us
were
purely
based
upon
lessons
that
they
have
learned
operating
their
stores,
their
desires,
which
we
think
would
be
shared
by
any
large
format,
retailer
that
would
want
to
locate
here
clearly
in
Boston.
P
They
want
to
be
able
to
capture
Urban
foot
traffic,
which
they
will
do,
but
they
also
acknowledge
the
unique
nature
of
grocery
store
items
are
not
as
easily
transportable
via
transit
or
just
walking,
and
so
we
have
worked
to
find
ways
to
accommodate
them,
but
his
staff
has
reminded
us
multiple
times.
It
doesn't
mean
that
this
should
be
a
one-way
dialogue.
A
balance
just
simply
has
to
be
achieved
that
addresses
the
grocery
store's
desires,
while
protecting
the
community's
planning
expectations
and
striking
that
balance
outcome,
and
so
we
think
that
we
have
done
that.
P
It
can't
just
be
a
left
turn
lane,
so
in
coordination,
when
Des
staff,
as
Miss
Badger
mentioned,
the
agreed
upon
final
design,
includes
a
series
of
pedestrian
modification
or
safety
modifications
of
this
intersection
retention
of
a
pedestrian
Refuge,
no
right
on
red
intersection
restrictions.
Instituting
a
protected
left
turn
only
lane
having
leading
pedestrian
intervals
to
allow
pedestrians
to
enter
the
intersection
prior
to
cars
and
more,
but
these
enhancements
will
make
it
a
much
safer
pedestrian
Crossing.
P
Irrespective
of
whether
this
project
gets
approved
stitching
together,
a
complete
community
in
Boston
also
means
upgrading
the
existing
private
alley,
which
slices
through
the
block
and
I
think
converting
its
typology
to
one
that
is
more
attractive.
A
more
gracious
safer
experience,
while
still
serving
as
the
workhouse
for
Workhorse.
For
this
building,
we
are
proposing
to
enhance
the
space
by
creating
a
curbless
environment
that
is
punctuated
by
lighted,
bollards
and
Planters.
Green
wall
plantings,
seating
areas,
six
foot
wide
sidewalks
on
both
sides,
removing
the
arcades.
P
We
have
purposely
designed
this
alley
to
reduce
the
potential
for
cut
through
traffic
and
speeding.
This
is
done
through
things
like
pavers,
which
provide
audible,
cues
and
signage
and
bollards,
which
narrow
visually
narrow,
the
dimension
of
the
space,
and
we
did
study
a
series
of
similar
conditions,
including
down
at
the
Wharf,
where
this
works.
It
can
be
done
very
safely
and-
and
it
will
work
here
so
we're
very
proud
of
that.
P
As
Ms
Badger
mentioned
housing,
affordability
is
figured
prominently
into
our
overall
approach.
We
have
a
1.5
million
contribution
to
ahif.
We
are
preserving
the
118
units
at
the
Haven
which
meets
the
County's
stated
goal
of
preserving
100
of
the
estimated
6200
units
on
the
Columbia
Pike
Corridor
that
are
currently
affordable,
and
then
we
also
have
the
additional
commitment
for
calves
at
Macy's.
P
Another
way
that
this
project
is
sort
of
innovative
is
actually
using
for
the
very
first
time
the
Columbia
Pike
TDR
policy.
As
board
members
know,
this
concept
followed
an
effort
by
the
county
to
incentivize
developers
and
Builders
to
come
to
the
table
with
non-monetary
tools
to
generate
affordable
housing
and
voluntarily
protect
some
of
these
units.
So
this
is
the
first
time
this
has
been
attempted
and
we're
very
proud
of
that,
and
coupled
with
the
tdrs,
is
a
commitment
to
permanently
preserve.
P
The
Haven
Apartments,
which
is
listed
on
the
HRI,
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
building
sustainability,
but
we
are
lead
gold,
we're
at
the
0.35
level,
we
have
on-site
solar,
10,
EV,
Chargers,
50,
EV,
infrastructure,
ready
and
more
in
terms
of
our
Landscaping
approach.
We
are
very
excited
about
the
improvements
to
the
ground,
plane
and
other
Landscaping.
This
is
inextricably
linked
to
the
building's
architecture,
its
amenities,
the
overall
Ambiance
of
the
project.
All
plantings
on
the
roof
levels
will
include
irrigation.
They
will
be
professionally
maintained
by
building
management.
P
There
is
a
substantial
reduction
in
imperviousness
and
we
have
increased
our
planting
areas
on
all
levels
as
well,
but
we
really
focused
on
that
ground,
plane,
experience
and
and
the
views
and
all
of
the
items
that
you're
seeing
in
the
renderings
they
will
be
maintained
by
building
management.
It's
not
just
something
that
we're
showing
up
for
pretty
pictures,
so
in
closing
Madam,
chair
I
would
just
underscore
that
we
have
made
several
changes
over
the
past
two
years
and
I
think
in
the
final
analysis,
planning
at
least
when
I
was
in
planning
school.
P
It's
it's
all
about
balance.
This
site
is
perhaps
the
most
Urban
in
all
of
Boston.
We
think
it
deserves
to
be
treated
with
creativity,
something
that
is
economically
feasible
and
satisfies
the
County's
goals,
even
with
an
amazing
site.
I
think
we
have
to
be
flexible
and
strike
a
balance
in
unlocking
its
potential.
P
We've
shown
our
ability
to
partner
with
our
neighbors
on
in
both
the
alley
and
the
mall,
the
ability
to
leverage
the
relationship
with
the
grocery
store
to
preserve
historic
buildings,
to
bring
affordable
housing
to
this
site
and
preserve
it
elsewhere
and
to
satisfy
many
of
the
County's
planning
goals.
So
we're
proud
of
staff's
recommendations
proud
to
have
the
planning
commission's
recommendations,
and
we
would
appreciate
your
favorable
consideration
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
You
we
appreciate
the
presentation
and
please
do
stay
close
by
in
the
event
we
have
questions.
I
know
we
are
joined
by
at
least
one
of
our
commissioners.
Commissioner
Bagley
thank
you
for
representing
the
PC
this
morning.
I
would
love
to
turn
it
over
to
you
for
thoughts
from
your
own
deliberations.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
morning,
board
members.
It's
nice
to
see
you
again.
Yes,
the
Planning
Commission
heard
this
on
December
5th
and
we
did
not
hear
the
encroachment.
So
what
we
did
talk
about
was
first,
we
did
receive
a
report
from
c2e2
that
felt
that
the
project
meets
the
goals
of
the
gbip.
However,
that
does
not
meet
the
commission's
energy
targets
and
they
spelled
out,
which
is
in
your
report,
the
things
that
they
would
like
to
see.
Q
Commissioner
lantalmy
provided
a
report
Transportation
Commission,
which
voted
to
defer
the
project,
mostly
because
of
the
7th
Street
intersection
and
the
left
turn,
and
they
were
looking
to
make
the
that
area
a
little
bit
more
pedestrian
friendly.
Commissioner
Hughes
pointed
out
in
a
written
report
about
the
form-based
code
advisory
working
group.
They
had
three
meeting
long
discussion.
Q
The
applicant
made
several
changes
to
the
proposal
and
AWG
provided
a
lukewarm
support
for
the
Haven
proposal,
conditioned
on
there
being
Workforce
housing
provided
at
the
Macy
sites.
Site
and
I
do
have
a
additional
written
comments
from
commissioner
Hughes.
If
you
need
them,
commissioner,
tell
me
who
chaired
the
sprc
process
talked
about
the
various
things
that
were
discussed
in
that
and
which
led
us
to
our
discussion
on
the
commission,
which
basically
concentrated
on
site
access
and
transportation,
which
was
probably
the
largest
conversation
open
space
architecture,
construction
issues
and
Community
benefits.
Q
Q
Q
The
also
we
were
asked
about,
because
there's
a
few
things
that
were
out
of
order
here:
pedestrian
accessibility,
Crossing
egg
Glebe-
should
also
be
improved,
so
it's
not
hazardous
for
the
folks
coming
from
south
Glebe.
So
basically,
we
also
discussed
a
little
bit
about
the
commissioner
schroll
wanted
to
know
about
the
second
story,
garage
parking
and
the
wrap,
and
the
look
that
was
also
discussed.
Commissioner
gearen
asked
about
green
roof
plantings
that
was
discussed.
Q
Commissioner
Steinberger
asked
for
a
visual
along
the
green
wall
on
the
Alley
they're.
We
wanted
some
clarification
on
what
work
Workforce
housing
was.
Q
They
wanted
to
make
sure
some
commissioner
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
project
would
not
look
end
up.
Looking
like
a
box
store,
commissioner
Patel
was
concerned
that
there
was
not
enough
affordable
housing
on
the
Ballston
site,
given
the
neighborhood
and
commissioner
Steinberger
chimed
back
in
with
that
commissioner
Hughes
again
added
that
the
host
civic
association
for
the
Haven
is
not
supportive
of
the
project
but
did
recognize
the
developer
went
above
and
beyond
what
the
requirement
was
for
affordable
housing.
Q
Commissioner
lantelme
mentioned
that
there's
an
unintended
consequence
of
the
TDR
program
to
lock
in
place
the
socioeconomic
and
racial
status
along
the
pike,
which
is
therefore
he
felt
exhaust,
exacerbating
the
disparity
between
Boston
and
the
Pike,
and
that
we
should
continue
to
study
this
from
an
equity
standpoint.
Q
In
the
end
for
items
a
b
and
c
on
your
report,
the
we
motioned
and
the
motion
carried
seven
to
three
with
or
seven
with
three
abstention.
Tensions
were
related
to
the
affordable
housing
on
the
Macy
site.
Q
For
items
d
and
e,
the
motion
was
made
and
then
commissioner
Lynn
tell
me,
introduced
a
motion
to
amend
it,
which
in
essence
talked
about
to
come
up
with
solutions
for
the
7th
Street
and
gley
Road
intersection,
as
well
as
other
pedestrian
oriented
things
that
motion
the
amended
motion
carried
eight
to
zero
with
two
abstentions
and
then
the
main
motion,
as
amended,
carried
seven
to
zero
with
three
abstentions.
Q
Commissioner
lantelmy
then
moved
that
CP
HD
work
plan
for
updating
the
Boston
section
sector
plan
to
address
the
growing
Libro
divide
between
eastern
and
western
sides.
That
motion
failed
three
to
six
with
one
abstention,
so
that
was
our
report
and
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions.
A
Very
much
yeah
that
has
been
an
ongoing
source
of
conversation,
whether
the
future
of
the
Boston
sector
players.
Thank
you
so
much,
commissioner
Beckley
we're
glad
to
have
you
and
thank
you
for
that.
That
report
about
the
conversation
I
know
that
we've
had
detailed
thoughts
from
both
the
Housing
Commission
and
Transportation
Commission
in
writing
is
chair,
Burkey
or
chairman
slot
with
us
virtually
or
both
they're,
both
on.
A
All
right,
good
morning,
gentlemen,
chair
Burkey,
let's
start
with
you
from
the
Housing
Commission.
R
Sure,
good
morning,
Madam
chair
remiss
I
can't
be
there
in
person
but
good
morning
to
everyone.
I
just
would
like
to
to
thank
the
applicant
and
our
County
staff
for
working
so
hard
on
this
proposal.
I
would
agree
with
the
sense
in
it
that
I
think
this
public
process
really
has
benefited
the
proposal,
as
well
as
our
sprc
and
form-based
code
advisory
working
group
efforts,
so
on
December
8th,
the
Housing
Commission
voted
ten
to
one
to
recommend
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
proposal.
R
As
is
there
were
a
few
items
of
discussion
that
I'd
like
to
highlight
that
do
track
with
the
planning
commission's
conversations.
R
There
was
discussions
about
this
use
of
the
TDR,
the
retention
of
existing
Haven
residents,
possible
displacement,
concerns
and
then
also
the
use
of
this
policy,
which
would
obviously
convert
these
units
at
the
Haven
into
calves
and
kind
of
the
merits
of
that.
So
obviously,
this
proposal
would
preserve
118
existing
units
at
The
Haven
at
60
percent
area
median
income,
as
staff
indicated.
R
It
does
seem
fairly
unlikely
that
we're
going
to
see
too
many
of
these
proposals
I'm
just
going
even
how
difficult
it
is
to
put
these
Parcels
together.
That
being
said,
there
was
a
discussion
as
to
the
merits
of
the
TDR,
essentially
locking
in
units
in
place.
Market
rate
units
escalated,
affordable
ones
on
the
western
end
of
Columbia
Pike,
and
there
was
some
concern
about
that,
and
that
was
the
reason
that
we
did
have
one
commissioner
foot
against
the
proposal.
I
would
say
just
personally.
R
This
is
an
interesting
moment
coming
full
circle,
having
joined
the
Housing
Commission
several
years
ago
and
being
concerned
about
placement
of
affordable
housing
throughout
our
County
and
really
having
allowed
the
same
concerns
as
commissioner
and
tell
me
the
Planning
Commission,
but
as
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
clearly
indicates,
there
is
a
strong
priority
for
preserving
existing,
affordable
units
and
that's
what
this
proposal
would
do.
We
would
enable
folks
to
try
to
stay
where
they're
at
and
that's
a
key
part
of
the
plan,
and
that's
why
I
support
this
proposal
a
few
more
things.
R
There
was
a
lot
of
appreciation
at
the
Housing
Commission
for
the
applicant,
adding
these
11
additional
on-site,
affordable
units
which
are
not
required
under
this
proposal.
The
commission
also
voted
to
encourage
the
applicant
to
add
any
additional
affordable
units
if
possible.
R
Really,
a
lot
of
our
discussion
really
was
the
merits
of
not
having
maybe
as
many
potential
on-site
affordable
units
in
Boston
compared
to
the
fact
that
we're
getting
118
units
not
committed
for
for
30
years
at
that
60
Ami
level,
which
is
huge,
I,
think
that's
it
I
want
to
speak
the
last
concern,
which
was
whenever
the
county
does
make
these
make
these
deals,
and
we
are
converting
market
rate,
affordable
units
into
committed,
affordable
units.
R
We
will
have
some
folks
who
are
above
that
60
am
I
level
and
so
I'm,
confident
that
our
County
staff
has
a
really
good
track
record
or
track
record
of
working
with
folks
to
make
sure
that
nobody
gets
displaced.
R
Just
final
word,
my
my
last
presentation
is
chair
of
the
housing
commission
and
I
just
want
to
express
a
public
sense
of
thanks
to
to
all
of
you,
our
County
board
members
for
being
really
supportive
of
the
housing
commission's
work
over
these
last
two
years
have
been
shared,
and
just
generally,
some
of
our
Housing
Programs.
It's
really
incredible
to
live
here
and
have
such
you
know
supportive
and
thoughtful
public
officials.
But
my
real
big
thank
you
is
to
our
staff.
R
We
have
incredible
housing
and
planning
staff
led
by
Anthony
our
housing
director
and
when
I
speak
to
colleagues
throughout
the
region.
They
always
tell
me,
you
know
you
guys
have
the
best
housing
and
planning
staff,
and
so
my
request
of
the
board
always
is
to
to
make
sure
that
it
stays
that
way
and
that,
with
that
I
yield
my
time.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
S
Thank
you
very
much
chair,
Crystal
and
other
members
of
the
board
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
transportation
commission's
recommendation.
I'm
Chris
Slatt,
chair
of
the
commission,
at
our
December
1st
meeting,
the
commission
voted
10-0
to
recommend
that
the
County
Board
defer
action
on
the
proposed
site
plan
pending
additional
improvements
to
pedestrian
safety
and
access,
particularly
the
crossing
of
Glebe
Road
at
7th
Street,
while
largely
in
favor
of
this
development,
which
will
bring
an
additional
grocer
and
hundreds
of
new
homes
to
a
Transit,
rich
and
walkable
area
of
Arlington.
S
The
commission
cannot
recommend
approval,
given
the
development's
plans
to
add
an
additional
Lane
to
Glebe
Road.
The
commission
feels
strongly
that
glebra
through
Boston
needs
to
be
less
car
focused,
not
more.
Car
focused
the
addition
of
75
new
Lane
feet
of
asphalt
to
a
road
that
is
already
too
wide
too
fast,
too
busy
and
largely
pedestrian
hostel
is
not
acceptable
or
consistent
with
vision.
Zero
in
the
meeting
the
intersection
of
Glebe
and
7th
was
described
by
one
Boston
resident,
as
quote
the
only
remaining
safe
place
to
cross
Glebe.
S
This
status
would
be
irrevocably
harmed
by
the
new
turning
movements
at
this
location.
The
commission
notes
that
many
of
The
Pedestrian
safety
improvements,
the
applicant
is
claiming
credit
for
such
as
implementing
leading
pedestrian
interval
or
restricting
Returns
on
red
at
the
intersection
are
operational
choices.
The
county
could
Implement
at
this
intersection
today
and
need
not
be
linked
to
Redevelopment.
We
also
note
that
this
new
turn
lane
would
be
replacing
existing
perfume
surface
a
grassy
median
with
impervious
surface
or
more
asphalt.
S
In
the
first
place,
a
commission
feels
that
accommodating
this
vehicle
movement
is
simply
not
necessary,
especially
given
the
additional
safety
exposure
for
those
walking
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Does
Glebe
Road
need
more
car
infrastructure
or
more
walking
biking
and
Transit
infrastructure?
The
commission
believes
that
this
plan
moves
us
toward
a
more
car-centric
Ballston
at
the
expense
of
a
safe,
comfortable
and
direct
pedestrian
experience.
S
While
we're
very
pleased
with
the
progress
the
applicant
has
made
in
addressing
sustainable
access
and
safety
on
this
site,
the
commission
can't
recommend
approval
based
on
effort
or
progress,
but
only
on
achieving
a
safe
and
accessible
site
that
moves
us
forward
on
our
climate
and
vision,
zero
goals.
We
don't
believe
this
site
has
gotten
there
yet.
Well,
we
don't
expect
any
project
to
be
perfect.
We
do
expect
projects
will
not
degrade
safety.
S
A
You
we
appreciate
that
and
appreciate
your
willingness
to
stay
by
for
a
future
conversation
about
it.
I
believe,
that's
it
for
our
commission
presentations,
Sorry
Miss
Jacobs.
Do
we
have
any
public
speakers?
Yes,.
T
Oh
good
morning,
hello,
remember
this
is
the
County
Board
and
Madam
chair
I'm,
John
Musa,
the
government
Affairs
manager
at
the
Arlington
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
I
just
want
to
say
a
few
before
in
support
of
this
project.
T
Obviously
this
has
been
the
product
of
a
very
long
process
and
I
just
want
to
thank
these
County
staff
in
terms
of
working
with
this.
But
we
believe
that
this
step
is
this
project
is
going
to
be
a
major
step
in
increasing
the
vibrancy
of
central
Boston,
not
only
with
the
addition
of
553
new
units
Into,
the
Heart
of
this
neighborhood,
which
really
is
a
major
move
towards
these
sort
of
Transit
oriented
development.
T
That
really
is
kind
of
the
Hallmark
of
the
Roslyn
Boston
Corridor
in
terms
of
the
access
to
Transit
and
access
to
this
pedestrian
oriented
area.
Not
only
is
that
going
to
be
an
element
of
this
project,
but
you
also
have
the
addition
of
both
a
grocery
store
and
all
this
new
vibrant
retail
space
to
Wilson
Boulevard,
to
believe
into
this
commercial
core.
That's
going
to
complement
and
connect
with
Boston
quarter.
T
The
chamber
believed
that
this
sort
of
project
is
going
to
be
a
huge
benefit
to
pedestrians
involved,
Austin
Jupiter
residence
in
Boston
and
anyone
who
come
to
live
work
or
visit
in
this
area,
and
we
believe
that
it's
already
a
vibrant
area,
but
it
still
has
room
for
growth
and
the
Chamber
believed
that
this
project
is
the
sort
that
it's
going
to
help
live
up
to
Boston's
potential,
and
for
that
reason
we
hope
that
the
board
does
adopt
this
project
and
go
forward
with
it.
So
thank
you
very
much
Madam,
chair
you'll.
U
Good
morning,
I'm
Adam
Theo
vice
president
of
the
Boston
Virginia
Square
civic
association,
although
I'm
here
in
capacity
of
just
personal
opinion
on
this
I,
really
like
how
this
project
has
evolved,
since
it
was
first
being
tracked
more
than
a
year
ago
now
by
our
civic
association
by
myself,
I
really
like
that
the
loading
dock
has
been
relocated
from
mid-block
to
the
corner.
I
think
that
will
greatly
improve
things,
I'm
also
thrilled
about
the
density
and
the
height
and
getting
500
units
of
housing.
U
So
all
things
considered
still
happy,
except
for
one
thing,
and
this
is
still
pretty
close
to
a
deal
breaker
for
me,
and
that
is
the
transportation
and
access
aspects
as
a
transportation,
Committee,
just
I
guess
voted
to
recommend
not
pursuing
this
further
I
have
to
sort
of
second
that
it's
still
my
biggest
concern
of
that
left,
turn
lane
and
pedestrian
access
to
the
site
from
all
directions
and
the
fact
that
Glebe
is
just
an
absolutely
horrendous
road
to
to
you
know
cross
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
U
L
V
V
Be.
It
therefore
resolved
that
the
allergy
County
Board
require
the
applicant
to
reduce
the
footprint
of
the
building
or
where
the
other
plans
to
changes
to
the
site
plan
that
will
increase
the
space
available
for
plantings
of
trees,
shrubs
perennials
and
ground
covers
within
the
sidewalks
at
private
streets.
That
border
the
building
explanation.
The
act
the
applicant
can
reduce
the
probability
of
footfruit
by
setting
back
the
building's
ground
floor,
a
development.
Our
developer
has
already
done
this
for
preserving
a
stock
burrow
ground
at
the
central
United
Methodist
Church
on
Fairfax
Drive
in
Boston.
V
Another
developer
has
done
this
at
Wendy's
site
in
Courthouse
to
increase
the
size
of
a
public
space
near
the
interest
of
the
building
sites.
Building
the
small
change
will
have
little
impact
on
the
size
of
that
new
building,
the
grocery
store
or
the
Macy's
project
as
a
whole,
but
the
applicant
really
needs
to
consider
this.
It
hasn't
yet
the
setback
would
create
space
available
for
plantings
near
the
curbs
of
Wilsonville
and
Glebe
Road,
as
well
as
the
near
the
traffic
Lanes
of
the
private
Street.
Pedestrians
could
walk
through
the
setbacks
which
the
buildings
would
overhang.
V
These
would
shelter
these
chat
that
these
overhangs
would
shelter
the
pedestrians
during
the
inclement
weather
on
all
sides.
The
width
of
the
pedestrian's
face
would
remain
the
same.
There's
no
reason
this
can't
be
done.
Please
consider
the
above
we're
discussing
this
project.
In
addition,
my
personal
comments
I
note
the
following
addition:
efficiency
of
the
report.
As
the
translation
commission
has
noted,
the
project
will
added
left
turn
lane
to
southbound
Glebe
Road.
This
reduce
the
green
roads
with
the
libros
medium
pedestrians,
Crossing
Libra
will
have
an
attitude,
of
course,
an
additional
traffic
lane.
V
This
crap
first
will
become
much
more
unsafe
than
people
are
talking
about,
because
drivers
people
will
speak
speed,
so
they
can
turn
left
before
the
traffic
light
changes
to
Red.
This
is
when
the
major
reasons
for
traffic
fatalities
in
Arlington
and
everywhere
else.
The
applicant
has
stated
that
grocery
store
claims,
that
the
store
cannot
succeed
without
a
new
turn.
Lady
that
left
turn
lane.
This
is
simply
not
correct.
Several
alternative
routes,
including
along
Randolph
Street,
can
permit
orders
to
access
the
soil
from
all
directions.
V
The
board
should
never
allow
a
private
business
to
decrease
safety
on
a
public
busy
public
Street
for
its
own
benefit.
Regarding
the
Haven,
the
TBR
will
describe
this
place
within
three
years.
All
Haven
tenants
whose
dis
incomes
exceed
the
upper
limit.
The
calf
units
require
that,
no
matter
what
they
say,
this
is
going
to
happen.
These
are
about
30
to
50
percent
of
the
residents,
as
reported
by
the
applicant.
V
The
TDI
should
require
that
they're
building
rebate,
accessible
and
affordable
all
as
marks
as
they
are
now.
The
county
has
a
shortage
of
market
rate.
Affordable
housing.
Conversion
to
cats
makes
absolutely
no
sense
this.
Could
this
conversion
also
lacks
Equity,
as
will
perpetuate
these
excessive
local,
low-income
housing
near
Columbia
Pike,
rather
dispersing
it
throughout
the
county?
It's
absurd.
V
Did
not
endorse
the
TDR
and
the
preservation
of
easement
for
the
Haven,
despite
the
applicant's
requests
and
and
staff
support
the
events,
because
large
tax
benefits
through
applicant.
However
hlib
members
stated
that
historic
resources
and
inventory
does
not
classify
the
Haven
as
it's
either
essential
or
important.
There
are
many
other
buildings
in
that
notable
category.
That
is,
members
further
stated
that
the
county
Kansas
many
civil
guard
departments
from
the
same
time
period.
V
They
also
noted
that
the
Macy's
project
will
demolish
The
Last
Remnant
of
the
park
in
New
shopping
center,
which
is
also
on
the
inventory.
This
demolition
effort,
this
demolition,
the
fs
demolition,
offsets
any
benefit,
a
benefit
benefit
that
the
County
May
gain.
Something's
preservation,
it's
important
to
recognize
that
your
own
guidelines
for
tdrs
strongly
discourage
a
TDR
with
a
project
property
or
the
receiving
side.
That
is
on
the
inventory.
A
Thanks
so
much
Mr
Byrne,
we
appreciate
your
comments
this
morning.
I
believe
that
concludes
our
public
speakers
is
that
right.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
the
conversation
is
now
with
the
board.
Colleagues,
let
me
outline
be
a
couple
of
areas
for
discussion
among
ourselves
which
we
can
have
before.
We
then
get
to
emotion,
certainly,
I.
Think
the
question
about
the
southbound
left
turn
lane
transportation
and
walkable
safety
in
general
is
an
important
one.
A
The
transfer
development
rights
and
potentially
an
area
I,
know
of
interest
to
colleagues
the
future
operations
and
Renovations
at
the
Haven.
There
may
wish
to
be
some
conversation
about
sustainability
features.
Are
there
any
other
categories?
Okay?
Well,
a
lot,
sometimes
you're
miscellaneous
as
well
at
the
end,
so
I
think
to
begin
with
the
really
one
area
of
kind
of
continued
concern.
I
I
think
it's
probably
not
too
strong
aboard
is
that
what
about
the
southbound
left
turn
lane
and
maybe
overall
Traffic
Safety
operations?
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
appreciate
it.
So
you
know,
while
I
think
the
perspectives
and
presentations
have
made
clear
of
the
potential
harms
that
would
occur
from
the
introduction
of
this
turning
movement
on
South
Glee.
What
has
been
less
clear
is
the
reason
why
the
applicant
believes
that
the
project
would
be
harmed
if
it
were
not
there.
It
was
made
clear
that
this
is
what
the
grosser
desires
or
demands
or
insists
on,
but
that's
not
really
the
standard
for
this
board.
I
It
should
be
what
would
be
the
harm
done
to
the
project
overall,
if
it
were
not
there,
the
analysis
shows
that
a
fairly
small
percentage
of
peak
trips
would
be
generated
from
the
introduction
of
this
opportunity.
So
can
you
give
me
greater
color
as
to
what
analysis
shows
harm
that
would
befall
the
project
if
it
were
not
available.
P
W
W
We,
we
have
been
working
with
the
grocery
for
over
nine
years
to
to
find
a
location
inside
Boston
they
above
Boston.
They
want
to
be
here
to
Land,
and
we've
been
working
with
them
on
this
particular
site
for
three
years,
going
through
plan
after
plan
of
iterations
and
in
studying
how
the
needs
of
a
grocer
to
make
it
work
for
them,
based
on
their
decades
and
Decades
of
experience
with
the
hundreds
of
stores.
W
There
was
one
item
that
came
out
of
the
analysis
on
their
part
that
was
like
in
order
for
us
to
invest
in
the
site.
We
just
need
this
one
thing
and
they
made
it
a
an
item.
That
was
it's.
It's
the
only
item
in
our
lease
that
is
a
contingent
item
for
us
to
get
and
so
they're
telling
us
they
need
it
based
on
their
experience.
There's
a
lot
we've
spent
months
and
months
and
months
explaining
kind
of
the
logic.
W
They've
been
awesome
to
help
us
kind
of
improve
the
project
throughout
this
point,
but
without
without
this,
this
requirement,
which
is
fitting
in
a
left
access
the
the
site's
a
little
unique
I'll,
go
back
and
say
a
couple
things
I'm,
not
the
transportation
expert
expert
at
the
table,
but
if
to
give
a
little
color
behind
their
their
logic
and
I,
think
this
logic
would
be
consistent
really
for
any
traffic
generating
anchor
at
this
site.
So
I
don't
think
this
is
something
particular
to
this
exact
grocer
I.
W
Think
people
that
are
experts
in
this
base
would
say
the
same
thing,
because
the
uniqueness
of
the
super
block
on,
if
you
are
traveling
westbound
on
Wilson
they're.
Really,
if
you
see
this
store,
there
really
is
no
way
to
ever
access
the
store.
P
Well
and
I
think
I
mean
going
back
to
your
point.
Mr
Dorsey
I
mean
it's
not
a
one-way
dialogue.
In
order
for
this
to
work,
in
order
for
to
get
staff
recommendation
of
support,
we
have
to
abide
by
the
County's
policies.
We
have
to
show
that
we
are
not
degrading
the
existing
pedestrian
experience
there,
and
so
we've
been
working
tirelessly
with
staff
for
the
last
two
years.
P
On
this
one
point,
it
was
the
sole
reason
why
well
not
the
sole
reason,
but
one
of
the
major
reasons
why
there
was
a
six-month
seven-month
delay
between
our
first
and
second
sprc
meetings
to
get
to
the
point
where
staff
could
agree
with
with
the
various
measures
that
we've
been
making
and
I'll
say
too,
that
it's
not
it's
not
just
we're,
not
adding
a
lane.
The
distance
between
the
two
curves
on
Glebe
is
is
remaining
the
same.
The
distance
the
pedestrians
have
to
walk.
P
The
measures
that
we
put
in
place
are
not
that
we
should
always
be
looking
to
be
that
for
for
Solutions,
but
also
the
national
National
Association
of
city
transportation
officials.
It
meets
their
standards,
but
it's
part
of
a
larger
package
that
we
worked
out
with
staff
about
dispersing
the
overall
trips
at
really
I.
Think,
as
Mr
Sullen
said
in
our
first
sprc,
video
is
a
fulcrum
of
activity
with
our
initial
submission.
Everything
was
focused
on
the
Alley
and
and
we
had
to
find
a
way
to
sort
of
disperse
trips.
P
So
we've
worked
with
staff
to
to
to
have
this
left
turn
pocket
be
used
for
the
grocery
traffic.
We've
worked
with
staff
to
move
the
entrance
for
the
garage
access,
which
will
all
be
internal
decide
as
far
away
from
the
alley
as
possible.
We
also
were
working
on
measures
to
make
sure
that
residents
accessing
the
below
grade
parking
will
have
to
come
in
on
Wilson.
P
So
it's
a
series
of
different
things
that
are
occurring
that
when
we
originally
you
know,
filed
the
case
they
didn't
occur
to
us
at
all,
I
mean
we
just
we.
We
hadn't
come
up
with
these
Solutions,
but
it's
only
been
through
this
iterative
process
with
staff
looking
at
the
County's
policies
and
I
think
the
good
work
that
that
Mr,
selin
and
Mr
Van
Pelt
have
done.
W
Only
other
thing
I'd
like
to
emphasize
is
there's
been
this
discussion
about
competitive
advantage
and
may
have
been
coming
from
our
side.
That's
never
been
a
talking
point
with
the
grocer
they're
not
trying
to
have
a
competitive
Advantage.
They
literally
just
looked
at
the
site
at
the
beginning
like
this
is
the
this
is
the
one
thing
we
need
to
figure
out.
If
you
can
figure
it
out,
that's
awesome,
we're
finally
going
to
be
in
Boston
and
if
we
can't,
we
just
can't
invest
in
the
store.
W
We
know
enough
about
how
our
stores
work
in
these
different
situations.
We've
have
enough
Lessons
Learned
over
40
years
of
operating.
We
just
can't
do
it
and
so
everything
else,
the
10
other
items
we've
been
pushing
and
prodding
and
they're
at
the
table
with
us
and
have
been
awesome.
This
is
just
something
that
our
entire
project
is
designed
around
and
has
been
for
two
years
that
that
there's
not
going
to
be
it's
not
like.
We
can
approve
it
and
be
like.
W
Let's
see
how
it
goes,
I
know,
I
know
how
it
goes,
we're
starting
from
scratch
and
everything's
kind
of
lost,
I.
I
Mean
I
can
appreciate
all
of
this
and
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear.
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
thoughtful
work
on
the
mitigations
I
think
it's
obviously
clear
that
the
tenant
desires
it
that
any
commercial
tenant
would
desire
it
I'm,
not
disputing
any
of
those
things.
The
question
is
there
hasn't
really
been,
to
my
mind,
a
demonstration
of
need.
J
Thank
you
in
the
same
vein
that
I
have
to
to
to
note
Mr
Dorsey,
that
we
have
several
grocery
stores
that
don't
have
all
these
facilities
and
they
work
and
they're
very
Central.
I
mean
you
know.
A
lot
of
people
complain
about
the
parking
situation
at
12.
Foods
we've
learned
it,
but
this
grocery
store
does
very
well
right.
J
Just
across
the
street,
there's
a
Target
shop,
a
store
that
I
believe
not
too
many
people
know
wherever
the
parking
is
and
Trader
Joe's
is
in
North
Highland,
where
I
am
absolutely
certain
that
most
arlingtonians
and
most
of
their
customers
don't
know
where
the
parking
is
because
they
don't
need
it.
It's
a
very
walkable
place
and,
and
the
entire
business
proposition
there,
which
I
believe
is
a
is
a
is
a
component
of
need,
because
this
is
a
non-core
function.
Nancor
use
that's
important,
but
I
don't
see
how
you
know.
J
Still
this
facility
of
the
of
the
the
left
turn
ad
adds
to
the
viability
anyway.
I
think
that
it
doesn't
and
all
rests
from
the
viability
in
a
meaningful
way.
For
me,
I
have
a
question
that
is
more
technical
ago.
So
when
somebody
drives
out
exits
towards
North
gleap
Road
from
this
alley,
I
can
to
somebody
make
a
left
and
and
go
across
and
call
the
southbound
Drive
southbound
include
and.
P
Mr
cantos
no,
no
and
I'd
recognize
Mr
Van
Pelt
from
growth,
Slater
traffic
consultant.
X
J
So
I'm
I'm
satisfied
with
that.
So
how
do
we
make
sure
that
people
who
come
out
of
the
alley
understand
that
they
have
only
this
direction?
Is
that
PSI
natural?
Could
we
even
add
something?
In
addition,
I
know
that
and
the
Transportation
Commission
The
Liberation
there
was
a
discussion
of
physically
configuring,
the
the
outflow
there
in
a
way
that
that
makes
it
very
clear
that
you
have
to
make
a
right
well.
X
That's
that's
currently
how
it
operates
today.
It's
a
right
turn
only
today
and
the
signal
there's
signage
for
that
and
then
I
think
that
we
can
even
look
at
that
in
terms
of
how
we
maybe
further
enhance
that
with
staff.
I
think
the
concern
I
think
you
were
talking
about-
maybe
a
potentially
like
a
pork
chop
island
or
something
like
that,
the
the
geometry
of
it,
those
things
actually
aren't
super
pedestrian
friendly,
either
in
terms
of
the
driveway
there.
X
But
we
can
look
at
that
geometry,
a
little
bit
more
carefully
and
see
how
we
best
studied
that.
But
the
intent
is
for
that
to
con
remain
a
right
turn
only
out,
and
we
want
to
do
everything
to
enforce
that
movement.
J
Okay,
the
second
question,
if
I
can
is
about
what
are
the?
What
can
you
tell
us
about?
How
do
we
signal
to
potential?
This
is
a
very
high
I
mean
this
will
be
a
very
pedestrian
friendly
place
and
we
expect
a
lot
of
and
the
majority
of
your
customers
will
be
Crossing
that
place.
J
How
do
we
make
sure
that
this
is
really
safe,
because
it's
not
a
small
thing,
I
believe
the
most
consternation
about
the
this
movie
is
that
you
get
a
a
traffic
movement
as
you
get
cars
from
where
you
don't
really
expect
them,
and
that's
that's
a
that
poses
a
a
danger
for
Productions.
This
is
this
is
a
risk,
a
safety
risk,
so,
besides
signage
and
and
traffic
lights,
or
you
know
pedestrian
crossing
lights,
what
else
will
be
there?
What
other
elements
will
be
making
sure
that
this
remains
safe.
P
And
I
help
answer
this
question:
Mr
Cameron,
Jones
I
actually
have
a
Graphic
and
I'm
not
sure
if,
if
we
could
share
it,
but
if
you
want
to
speak
to
it.
W
X
Yeah
so
I
think
we've
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
with
staff
trying
to
figure
out
the.
How
can
we
enhance
The
Pedestrian
safety?
We
understand
this
is
this
is
a
concern.
X
X
So
just
I'm
going
to
start
I
know
you
asked
about
physical
but
I'm
going
to
start
with
just
operational,
because
I
think
many
of
these
are
very
important.
So
all
of
the
movements
at
this
intersection
will
be
protected
movements.
That
means
is
a
vehicle.
You
cannot
make
your
turn
unless
you
have
a
green
arrow
to
make
that
left
turn
into
the
site,
and
the
same
will
be
true
for
the
traffic.
That's
turning
left
on
to
7th
Street,
so
those
will
be
protected
movements.
The
right
turns
will
also
be
protected.
X
X
At
the
same
time,
when
those
turn
movements
in
the
left,
new
left
turn
into
the
site
is
getting
its
turn
to
go.
Those
pedestrians
cross
in
the
driveway
will
have
do
not
walk.
We've
been
really
seen
through
Best
Practices
that
the
way
to
treat
a
signalized
pedestrian
Crossing
is
where
we
typically
do
when
it's
not
signalized,
we'll
keep
the
sidewalk
flush,
and
that
gives
the
pedestrians
kind
of
right-of-way.
If
you
will,
but
we've
found
in
practice,
is
that
that's
not
really
the
best
thing
to
do
at
a
signalized
location
we
want
to
give
intuitively.
X
We
want
those
pedestrians
to
understand
that
they
need
to
obey
a
signal,
so
this
driveway,
across
entering
the
site
into
the
alley,
is
going
to
have
curb
ramps
on
either
side
of
it.
It's
actually
going
to
feel
like
a
street,
and
we've
just
found
that
that's
much
more
intuitive
for
pedestrians,
but
those
there
won't
be
any
left.
X
Turners
left,
having
kind
of
their
own
judgment
of
I've,
got
an
adequate
Gap
I'm,
going
to
shoot
that
Gap
in
traffic
to
turn
into
the
site
because
they
won't
you
know
and
then
conflict
with
pedestrians,
because
they
will
have
to
obey
the
signal.
Everybody
must
have
hit
a
signal,
so
we've
taken
great
pains
to
to
really
think
about
how
operationally
the
signal
can
best
address
pedestrian
safety,
and
then
part
of
that
was
the
leading
pedestrian
intervals.
Those
are
things
that
we
are
starting
to
see
more
and
more
in
our
region.
Right.
X
It
gives
the
pedestrians
the
opportunity
to
get
out.
They
get
a
head
start
so
they're
out
into
the
crosswalk
before
the
vehicle
your
vehicular
traffic
gets
to
move
and
that
just
really
improves
visibility
so
that
the
the
motorists
see
the
pedestrians
and
once
you
go
into
the
site
itself,
I
guess
to
go
back
to
your
original
question.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
design
of
the
driveway
itself.
X
That's
that
was
very
important
and
we
spent
time
really
looking
at
that
carefully,
we'll
be
bollards
once
you
come
into
the
alley,
so
I
think
we've
got
a
rendering,
maybe
to
help
show
that
a
little
bit.
So
you
know
the
the
motorist,
the
the
space
in
the
alley.
What
is
defined
for
vehicles
is
going
to
be.
X
You
know
further
defined
by
pavement,
but
also
you're
going
to
have
Ballers
on
either
side
that
Define,
that
space
of
where
motor
is
to
operate
and
where
pedestrians
are
to
operate
on
both
sides
of
the
alley,
and
it
is
meant
to
be
very
traffic
calmed,
and
so
that
will
happen
through
the
pavement.
As
you
come
in
too
you'll
I'll
come
in
and
you'll
have
a
driveway
apron
which
will
slow
Vehicles
down
as
they
come
in
and
enter
the
alley
on
both
sides.
X
That
will
happen
so
you'll
come
up
to
this
flush
surface
internal
to
the
alley,
I'm
trying
to
think.
If
there's
anything
anything
I
forgot
but
I
think
those
are
those
are
those
are.
Those
are
the
main
items
and
I.
Think
one
thing
I
would
just
like
to
go
back
and
touch
upon.
Is
I
think
it's
been
mentioned
is
that
one
of
the
challenges
we
have
with
this
site
is
the
Mega
Blok.
X
We
talk
about
other
grocers
in
the
neighborhood
they're.
They
don't
necessarily
have
the
challenges
of
the
mega
block.
If
we
didn't
have
them
all
here,
we'd
probably
have
three
or
four
city
blocks
instead
with
porosity
and
connectivity,
which
would
be
better
for
all
modes,
but
we
don't
so
we're
left
with
this
mega
block
and
we
have
to
think
about
how
do
we
solve
for
the
access
for
for
the
site
and
I?
X
Think
that
if
you
look
at
the
competitive
Advantage,
you
have
access
for
those
other
Grocers
have
ways
to
get
in
left
turns
in
and
they're,
not
on
mega
blocks
and
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
solve
for
here
is
the
challenge.
That's
been
created
by
the
mega
block,
whether
it's
this
grocer
or
any
other
retailer.
We
just
don't
have
that
sort
of
round-the-block
circulation
you
would
have.
X
A
Thank
you
so
sort
of
a
similar
site
circulation
question.
Let
me
begin
with
testing
my
owner
understanding,
stipulating
that
I
usually
come
Northbound
from
the
South
Side,
whether
I'm
in
a
car
by
bus
I,
believe
so
from
headed
southbound.
It
is
possible
to
make
a
turn
into
the
Ballston
parking
garage
from
Glebe
Road
right,
okay,
great
so
seeing
a
yes
for
Mr
Sullen,
so
I
think
the
question
I
have
heard
for
you
as
the
applicant
and
I
Mr.
Smith,
really
appreciated
your
point.
That
they're
that
you
know
tenant
feels
really
strongly.
A
There
needs
to
be
a
way
to
access
their
their
store
coming
Southbound
on
Glebe
Road.
To
what
extent
has
the
parking
garage
been
part
of
the
plan
for
parking
access
to
the
site?
I
mean
I
know
it
even
showed
us
some
renderings
of
how
the
the
grocer
can
be
accessed
from
within
Boston
quarter.
Of
course
that's
well
served
by
that
parking
garage.
A
To
what
extent
is
that
part
of
the
solution
has
that
been
discussed
as
part
of
the
solution?
Is
it
an
area
where
improved,
wayfinding
and
and
clearer
signage
that
the
Boston
garage
is
a
way
to
access
that
site
for
those
coming
by
vehicle
southbound
in
lieu
of
a
of
a
new
turn
pocket
part
of
the
discussion?
Yeah.
P
Chair
Crystal
and
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
again
Madam
clerk.
If
possible,
we
actually
had
a
slide
on
this,
which
I
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
kind
of
skipped
over
staff
from
the
very
beginning
staff
and
the
community
really
challenged
us
to
utilize
existing
infrastructure
as
a
way
to
sort
of
help.
Disperse
traffic
mitigate
some
of
the
impacts
of
new
construction
on
carbon
emissions
and
more
that
naturally
led
us
to
form
Partnerships
with
Brookfield
the
mall
owner,
who
obviously
has
a
vested
interest
in
having
a
high
trip
generating
use.
P
You
know
pedestrian
trip
generating
use
at
this
site
adjacent
to
them
all.
It
led
us
to
discussions
with
the
point
office
building,
which
is
on
the
Northern
or
the
upper
part
of
this
image
here
to
utilize
their
infrastructure
as
well.
So
it
really
is
an
interesting
combination
of
three
owners
all
with
invested
interest
in
seeing
this
succeed.
So
this
is
sort
of
our
shared
existing
infrastructure
approach.
P
One
was
to
utilize
the
existing
loading
dock
and
the
service
corridors
that
exist
below
the
Boston
quarter,
mall
and
the
existing
Macy's
for
residential
loading
you
know
and
and
for
residential.
You
know
trips
and
deliveries,
and
things
like
that.
One
was
also
to
utilize
the
existing
ramping
system
and
the
below
grade
garage
portions
of
the
point
office
building
to
allow
the
residents
to
get
in
underneath
the
Macy.
P
We
have
the
ability
to
share
overflow,
residential
parking
on
nights
and
weekends,
with
the
office
building,
and
then
Macy's
also
has
access
to
280
spots
in
the
county-owned
parking
garage
that
we're
proposing
to
use
for
employee
and
overflow
parking
there
as
well.
Initially,
when
we
started
this
out,
we
thought
okay.
Well,
can
we
use
the
Boston
Macy's
garage
for
all
of
the
grocery
store
loading
and
things
like
that,
but
the
unique
nature
of
grocery
store
items,
plus
the
fact
that
we
don't
want
to
be
having
carts
going
across
the
nice.
P
You
know
you
know
ceramic
tiles
of
them
all.
It
just
didn't
work,
and
so
the
you
know
these
these
sort
of
Five
Points
here
are
the
way
that
we're
using
the
existing
infrastructure,
but
it's
forced
us
to
come
up
with
these
connections
with
these
adjacent
owners.
Okay,.
L
Sure,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Think
maybe
the
question
is
for
Mr
sellen
I'm
interested
in
the
you
know.
Are
there
safety
benefits?
L
What
happened
that
led
that
led
us
to
change
our
views
with
respect
to
the
the
left
turn
and
are
there
safety
elements,
I've
sort
of
been
looking
through
the
staff
report
and
the
looking
a
little
bit
at
this,
but
the
technical
memo
and
I'm
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
the
safety
elements
that
have
been
agreed
to
are
I
mean
I,
certainly
think
I
can
understand
the
dangers
of
having
a
left
turn
there
if
it
were
a
Str,
a
road
like
Route
50,
but
this
is
not,
there
would
be
right,
turns
and
other
access
points.
Y
Certainly,
we
were
concerned
about
four
things
and
I
think
Miss
Badger
introduced
those
in
her
initial
presentation.
Y
I
can
elaborate
on
those
a
little
bit
and-
and
that
is
why,
as
we
said,
there
was
a
seven
month
delay
between
the
first
site
plan
review
committee
meeting
and
the
second,
because
we
needed
to
go
over
at
length
the
concerns
that
we
expressed
about
transportation
and
those
centered
on
that
intersection
and
specifically
the
concerns
that
we
had
about
safety,
pedestrian
safety,
the
location
of
the
parking
garage
and
the
loading,
but
primarily
they
centered
around
the
left,
turn
and
pedestrian
safety.
Y
The
the
left
turn,
which
was
sort
of
a
an
essential
requirement
of
the
project,
was
to
us
problematic,
because
the
presentation
of
that
left
turn
we
knew
had
geometric
constraints
because
it
was
opposed
to
a
left
turn
in
the
opposite
direction
at
Wilson
at
Cleveland
Wilson,
which
we
knew
could
not
be
shortened,
because
that
was
also
a
high
volume
left
to
turn
so
introduction
of
a
left
turn
at
Glebe
and
the
private
Street
was
automatically
restricted
by
its
length
because
it
we
could
not
compromise
the
left,
turn
in
the
opposite
direction.
Y
So,
knowing
that
we
had
a
limited
amount
of
length
in
the
left
turn
that
could
be
provided
there.
We
were
concerned
that
a
left
turn
of
75
feet,
which
was
the
maximum
that
could
be
provided,
which
was
just
shy
of
four
cars,
might
not
be
sufficient
in
length,
given
the
volume
of
traffic
that
could
be
expected.
Y
So
we
had
the
traffic
consultant
provide
we
spent
months
and
multiple
meetings
with
five
of
our
staff
people
meeting
throughout
the
spring
and
summer,
with
the
grossly
team
going
back
and
forth
about
how
this
intersection
would
be
modeled
and
what
the
terms
of
the
study
would
be
that
they
would
conduct
over
the
summer
and
what
resulted
was
this
63
or
64
page
re-analysis?
That
was
done
that
was
studied
by
our
team
and
it
was
taken
to
the
highest
levels
of
dot,
meaning
the
director
of
traffic
engineering
and
operations
and
the
director
of
transportation
to
vet.
Y
That
analysis
and
to
concur
that
the
the
left
turn
from
southbound
Glebe
Road
would
not
degrade
traffic
operations
during
the
Peak
Travel
periods,
which
are
the
commute
periods
Monday
through
Friday.
The
only
possible
delays
that
could
occur
might
be
on
Saturdays,
which
would
be
acceptable
to
us,
so
that
is
in
terms
of
traffic
safety
in
terms
of
pedestrian
safety.
Y
We
understand
that
there
would
be
no
changes
to
the
right-of-way
along
Glebe
Road,
as
was
described,
the
the
width
of
the
the
right-of-way
Remains,
the
Same.
The
changes
are
all
geometric.
It's
to
create
that
additional
Lane
means
to
take
width
from
all
of
the
other
lanes,
as
well
as
to
reduce
the
width
of
the
new
median
that
was
created
two
years
ago
for
the
waycroft
project,
so
that
median
is
being
reduced
by
four
feet.
Y
Other
lanes
are
being
reduced
by
two
or
three
feet
to
create
this
new
left
turn
lane,
and
we
know
that
by
introducing
a
new
traffic
movement,
you
are
creating
additional
complexity,
additional
opportunities
for
the
vehicle
to
vehicle
to
vehicle
and
vehicle
to
pedestrian
conflicts.
Y
Therefore,
we
know
that,
in
order
to
do
that,
you
must
mitigate
those,
and
we
worked
again
with
the
traffic
consultant
to
create
and
to
to
create
and
to
to
create
every
possible
mitigation
that
we
could
and
then
to
study
the
intersection
following
the
certificates
about
certificates
of
occupancy
for
the
opening
of
the
store,
how
this
is
going
to
impact
pedestrian
safety.
Y
And
so
we
believe
that
we
have
created
every
possible
pedestrian
safety
mitigation
that
can
be
done
at
this
intersection
to
ensure
the
highest
levels
of
pedestrian
safety.
Following
the
building
of
the
the
new
grocery
store,
as
well
as
the
operational
and
geometric.
L
K
Thank
you,
Miss
Garvey,
yeah
I,
think
thank
you.
Madam
chair
I.
Think
I'd
like
to
hear
from
our
staff
about
your
thoughts
on
the
importance
of
this
ability
to
make
the
left
turn
because
clearly,
I
mean
I.
Think
if
you
all
can
see
where
we're
up
here
so
we're
hearing
it's
19
cars
an
hour
and
they're
300
I
mean
that
doesn't
sound
like
much
yet
you
spent
two
yeah
I'm
gonna
I
will
give
you
a
chance.
K
It's
it's
two
two
years
of
effort,
I
think
has
been
going
into
this
and
then
six
I
mean
intense
effort
on
both
sides,
which
means
both
sides
need
to
feel
it's
important.
Would
staff
like
to
talk
about
a
little
bit?
Is
it
just
because
this
is
what
the
applicant
wants,
or
you
know
what
what's
what's
driving
your
efforts,
which
sound
pretty
Herculean
on
trying
to
make
this
work?
Is
that
a
fair
question?
Y
It's
a
good
question:
Discovery
I
mean
often
when
we're
presented
with
a
site
plan.
We
have
the
sort
of
brief
that
the
applicant
gives
us,
and
then
we
work
with
those
requirements
and
if
it
doesn't
work,
we
then
turn
it
back
to
the
applicant
saying
this
doesn't
work
and
so
I
think
that
in
many
ways
that's
kind
of
what
we're
we're
working
with.
It's
like
this
is
the
these
are
the
terms
that
we
are
working
with.
K
So
it's
your
job
to
be
working
with
them
and
try
to
try
to
make
it
work.
Okay,
and
what
I
think
I
heard
you
say
overall,
is
that
this
new
turn
would
degrade
pedestrian
safety
somewhat,
but
that
you've
done
a
lot
of
mitigations
and
not
much.
Is
that
a
fair.
Y
K
P
And
to
follow
up
on
something
Mr
Sullen
said
we
do
have
a
an
extensive
condition
that
does
require
monitoring
and
mitigation
if
there
are
indeed
conflicts
that
arise
safety
issues
that
arise
queuing
issues
that
arise.
You
know
at
this
intersection,
but
there
was
a
question
I
think
you
had
just
about
the
total
turning
movements.
Damn.
X
Yeah
and
I
think
and
part
of
our
interaction
with
staff.
Our
initial
analysis-
and
we
put
that
left
turn
lane
in
it-
would
invite
not
just
the
new
retail
trips
but
also
residential
trips
and
other
traffic
that
could
use
it.
So
our
initial
analysis,
we
were
close
to
70
60
to
70
trips.
That
would
use
that
left.
X
Turn
part
of
our
conversation
with
staff
and
part
of
the
analysis
is
that
how
can
we
limit
the
demands
on
that
left
turn
because
really
why
we
need
it
is
for
the
retail
and
when
we
went
back
and
we
relooked
at
it.
If
you
look
at
our
supplemental
analysis,
the
technical
appendix
so
that
was
the
analysis
that
was
submitted
in
August
16..
We
have
trips
we're
down
to
in
the
20s,
almost
just
shy
of
30
trips,
the
19
that
was
quoted.
X
Well,
it
doesn't
include
passed
by
retail
trips
that
we
would
expect
also
so
the
number
of
trips
they're
going
to
use.
It
is
going
to
be
a
little
closer
to
30.,
still
relatively
light
volume,
but
part
of
that
was
born
out
of
the
conversation
with
staff
as
we
went
back
and
forth
because
there
are
going
to
be
some
restrictions
put
in
place
on
the
access
for
the
residential
and
the
office.
X
So
they
can
only
access
the
site
from
Wilson
Boulevard
pretty
much
as
the
office
accesses
it
today,
so
that
left
turn
is
really
used
just
by
the
retail.
Only,
and
the
reason
why
that
was
is
that
we
didn't
want
to
overburden
this
left
turn
lane
with
other
traffic,
because
the
purpose
of
it
is
really
there
for
just
for
the
grocer
to
have
its
access
that
needs.
P
To
be
successful
and
picking
up
on
that
point,
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
office,
but
especially
the
residential
tenants
of
the
building,
are
not
using
this
left
turn
line.
We've
been
to
In
in
discussions
about
how
to
do
that,
whether
it's
you
know
you
know:
signage
photo
monitoring,
transponder
monitoring,
making
sure
that
the
tenants
in
their
leases
are
communicated,
that
they
are
only
to
access
the
residential
loading
dock
from
Wilson
verbally
communicating
that
to
them
in
signage.
X
The
technology
exists
so
that,
essentially
anybody
it's
accessing
residential
or
office
tenant,
who
has
a
permit,
can
be
scanned.
The
picture
taken
of
their
license
plate
as
they
enter
in
if
they
come
off
of
Glebe
they're
not
going
to
have
access
to
the
parking
garage
they're
only
going
to
be
able
to
get
access
to
the
parking
garage
if
they
enter
off
of
Wilson,
so
I
think
there
are,
it
will
be
made
known
to
them
in
their
leases
and
their
commitments
that
they
can't
do
it.
X
If
they
try
to
do
it
they're
going
to
do
it
one
time
and
realize
I
can't
I
this
I
can't
do
this.
I
have
to
enter
off
of
Wilson,
but
again
part
of
that
was
just
to
try
to
limit
the
the
usage
of
the
left
turn
the
burden
on
that
left
turn.
So
we
wouldn't
lessen
concerns
about
queuing,
but
also
lessen
the
number
of
conflicts
with
the
left
Turners.
You
know,
potentially
with
pedestrians.
K
Okay,
so
part
of
what
you've
tried
to
do
is
minimize
the
number
of
number
of
trips-
okay,
which
is
now
a
thing:
okay
and
then
I'm.
Assuming
that
the
reason
the
grocer
and
I
you
know
I'm
funny,
this
hasn't
been
elicited,
so
maybe
I'm
wrong.
The
reason
the
Grocer's
so
concerned
is
that
those
19
they're
coming
in
with
cars
are
people
who
are
probably
going
to
buy
most
likely
going
to
buy
a
lot
of
groceries.
In
other
words,
people
who
are
walking.
K
W
It's
it's,
it's
very
simple
from
their
perspective,
and
it
really
is
only
it's
not
a
volume
item.
It's
related
to
people
traveling
westbound,
on
Wilson.
If
they
decide
to
make
a
trip
where
they
want
to
get
a
lot
of
groceries
and
they
need
to
take
their
vehicle,
there
isn't
a
way
to
get
to
the
store.
Without
this,
this
little
pocket
turn
lane.
So
they
just
that's.
W
They
just
need
to
be
able
to
handle
that
apparently
so
that
so
that
on
that
movement-
and
we
have
a
map
that
we
can
show
you
to
to
I-
did
see
that
yeah
and
so
and
it's
not
a
it's
not
to
say
I'm,
not
here
to
say
there
isn't
another
way
to
you
know
for
people
to
figure
out.
W
W
Not
trying
to
it's
not
a
volume
thing
or
a
it's,
it's
just
being
able
to
get
in.
K
K
That's
what
I
do
so,
there's
a
star
that's
hard
to
go
to
and
a
store,
that's
easy
to
go
to
I
go
to
the
one
that's
easy
to
go
to,
and
so
over
time
you
will
develop
a
clientele,
whereas
if
they
can't
get
to
the
store
that
clientele
is
not
developing,
so
that
that's
that's
my
read
as
well.
Okay,
you
know
I
enough
on
this.
For
me,
thank
you
for
me,
this
is
not
a
deal
breaker,
it's
close
at
the
moment.
K
A
You
all
right,
I,
don't
know
that
we've
wrestled
this
to
the
ground,
but
we've
certainly
spent
some
time
on
it.
I
appreciate
that,
as
we
all
continue
to
form
our
own
thoughts,
I'm
going
to
move
us
on
to
a
couple
other
topics,
because
I
think
there
may
be
areas
we
wish
to
surface.
A
L
It
okay,
all
right
I,
just
and
it's
10,
it
could
be
up
to
10.
Did
I,
do
I,
recall
correctly
of
the
energy
usage,
or
is
there
no
percentage
set
forth?
Okay,
no.
Z
No
energy
percentages
is
set
forth.
We
we
think
that
the
array
will
will
generate
about
a
hundred
kilowatts
a
year
and
it'll
be
about
a
5,
000
square
foot
array.
L
K
And
I
was
going
to
continue
that
right.
If
that's
all
right,
I
I
think
this
is
still
a
sustainability
bucket
I
could.
Could
you
bring
up
slide
16
that
you
had
it's
I
was
on
I,
wanted
to
look
at
both
slides,
15
and
16
of
your
presentation.
If
that's
okay,.
K
Okay,
sorry,
it
takes
yeah
there
we
go
so
we'll
start
with
this
one,
that's
fine!
So
these
are
great.
These
are
examples
of
other
places,
I
don't
and
I
love
the
what
the
green
on
the
walls
and
things
I
think
that
cools
things
down.
It
looks
great
in
your
other
pictures,
though,
of
the
the
elevations
things.
I,
don't
see
any
of
that.
So
is
this
just
something!
That's
nice
that
you
could
do,
or
is
this
something
you're
really
planning
to
do,
I
didn't
it
went
so
fast.
I
didn't
quite
pick
that
up
no.
P
These
are
things
that
we
are
are
planning
to
do.
These
are
obviously
inspirational
precedent
images
and
it
probably
does
not
come
through
clear
on
the
the
graphic.
That's
that's
to.
K
Z
Yes,
so
there
are
a
a
couple
of
areas
on
the
ground
plane
and
then,
as
we
move
up
the
building
that
include
green
planting,
so
on
the
ground
plane,
we
do
have
vertical
walls
on
the
Alley
on
the
Eastern
kind
of
pedestrian
sidewalk,
to
kind
of
enhance
the
Green
Experience
on
the
Alley.
Z
We
also
have
mounted
plantings
on
the
third
floor,
Terrace
that
will
be
visible
both
from
Glebe
Road
and
from
Wilson
Boulevard
punctuated
with
with
with
trees
as
we
move
up
the
building,
especially
on
that
Northeast
Northwestern
and
Southwestern
spine
on
on
the
Alley,
the
upper
tiers
of
those
balconies
that
punctuate
the
building
will
have
a
green
planting,
so
floors
10
to
16
you'll,
start
to
see
green
plantings
that
move
across
a
trellis
that
terminates
the
top
of
the
building
on
both
those
northern
and
southern
facades.
P
K
Okay,
but
so
what
I'm
wondering
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time,
so
this
picture
two
stripes.
So
this
looks
great.
This
is
like
a
bird's
eye
view
looking
down
right
if
we
had
a
drone
or
something
you'd.
Look
straight
down,
looks
great
I'm
just
struck
by
this
looks
great
the
picture
of
the
other
and
but
I'm
just
struck
by
what
you
then
show
as
again
the
elevations
on
the
sizes.
I,
don't
see
any
evidence
of
that.
Is
it
in
the
conditions?
I
guess.
K
N
They
are,
they
are
proposing
kind
of
a
green
living
wall
in
the
private
Street,
which
is
hard
to
see
in
their
renderings,
but
it's
on
the
Wilson
Boulevard
side,
and
that
is
conditioned
in
the
the
staff
report
and
in
the
conditions
and
all
the
green
roof
is
conditioned.
And
then,
if
you
can
see
on
the
top
of
this
rendering
here
they
have
some
trellises
that
will
the
greeneries
will
grow
up
to
the
very
top
of
the
building.
That
is
also
conditioned.
K
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you,
I,
don't
I,
think
that's
enough
information
for
I
just
wanted
to
it,
just
the
the
two
slides
just
for
me:
weren't,
adding
up
I'm,
seeing
one
picture
where
I
see
almost
no
green
and
then
I've
seen
otherwise
lots
of
green
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
what,
if
it's
conditioned
I,
don't
need
it
in
the
pictures,
but
the
conditions
help.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Karen,
Thomas,.
J
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
few
clarifications.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
the
green
groups.
I
I
really
appreciate
that
that
Evolution,
that
was
great
for
me
to
see
and
and
and
I'm
literally,
very
excited
to
see
that
growing
and
making
a
an
example
for
other
developers
as
well.
Two
questions
one
is
on.
So
there
is
an
extensive
green
roof
on
above
the
parking
level.
J
How
does
this
work
with
the
bird
friendly
glass,
because
bird
friendly
is
8
to
36
feet
does
and
and
I
anticipate
that
we
will
have
some
birds
there.
This
is
a
very
protected
area,
probably
not
so
drafty,
so
how?
How
will
this
work.
Z
Yeah,
so
we
do
intend
to
do
the
bird
8th
to
the
35th
floor
and
we
do
have
extensive
plantings,
especially
on
the
on
the
western
side
of
the
the
project
and
so
the
ground
face
there,
where
we
do
have
kind
of
pollinator
friendly
zones
that
we
expect
to
to
install.
We
will
look
at
kind
of
that
that
that
first
floor,
where,
where
you
know
there
might
be
the
presence
of
of
birds
and
other
pollinators.
Z
But
at
this
point
in
time
we
are
committed
to
the
bird
front,
glass
and
six
foot
to
35
foot
Zone.
J
Okay
and
a
second
question
is
on
you
know,
light
so,
do
you
have
a
Northwestern
exposure
and
not
a
great
one?
So
how
do
you
want
to
work
with
so
the
Landscaping
needs
natural
light.
So
how?
What?
What
is
the
response
in
terms
of
types
of
plantings,
Vines,
Etc,
yeah,.
Z
I
think
Aaron
can
answer
to
that,
but
that
is
something
that
the
team
has
thought
about.
Certainly
picking
picking
plants
that
are
shade
friendly
is
going
to
be
a
very
important
having
a
critical
kind
of
irrigation
and
maintenance
infrastructure
has
been
a
large
part
of
our
discussion
as
well.
Underneath
the
the
canopy
at
the
grand
plan
you'll
see
some
sorry
you'll
see
some
green
wall
and
we
do
and
expect
that
we'll
have
to
do
some,
some
artificial
lighting
to
assist
kind
of
the
establishment
of
of
that
green
wall.
Z
So
that
is
part
of
the
strategy,
but
we
can
also
speak
to
to
Mr
Booher,
who
represents
our
landscape
Aaron.
P
AA
AA
Yes,
I
think
Sarah
described
that
very,
very
well,
so
that
our
you
know,
our
overarching
goal
is
really
to
kind
of
celebrate
Native
plantings
throughout
this
project
and
really
curating
them
for
each
kind
of
micro,
climate
condition
and
as
you've
addressed.
Yes,
there
will
be
some
shady
areas,
but
there
are
many
different
native
plants
that
can
thrive
in
shaded
conditions
and,
as
Sarah
noted,
the
that
the
green
trellis
Vine
wall
trellis
that
we're
proposing
along
the
alleyway.
There
is
an
area
under
cover
where
supplementary
lighting
would
be
used
to
augment
supplement.
AA
A
You
excellent
appreciate
that
conversation
I
want
one
other
category
I
have
is
on
the
sending
site
that
we
haven't
talked
about
much
on
the
Haven
apartment,
so
I
know
there's
some
interest
among
board
members
of
exploring
an
area
of
dialogue
that
the
the
German
Berkeley
housing
commission
teed
up
for
us.
This
is
exciting.
This
is
the
first
time
we've
seen
that
TDR
tool
and
vision
of
the
neighborhood
Farm
based
code
actually
realized
I
do
think
there
is
certainly
some
interest.
A
This
is
both
the
first
time
we've
seen
the
school
realize
an
owner
that
you
know
is
not
necessarily
part
of
our
kind
of
cafs
operator
family
already
in
Arlington,
and
it
is
of
course
a
a
much
older
property
dating
back
to
the
1950s.
A
So
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
potential
there's,
also
maybe
some
potential
for
a
perfect
storm
here
for
some
of
the
the
things
we've
had
our
eye
on
with
regard
to
preserving
the
conditions
and
livability
of
our
aging
now
calfs
property
as
Mr
Burkey
teed
up
the
the
potential
transition
for
those
who
might
be
over
income.
A
So
I
want
to
give
us
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
explore
some
of
these
points.
I
wonder
you
know
Mr
matusek.
If
you
want
to
just
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
my
understanding,
is
housing
staff
has
been
in.
You
know
close
conversation
about
the
potential
operations.
What
can
we
expect
to
come?
What
can
the
the
current
residents
of
the
Haven
expect
to
come
in
the
year
or
so
ahead
with
the
formalization
of
those
market
rate
Apartments
as
committed
affordable
units.
O
Sure
and
joining
us
this
morning
is
Alex
McMillan
with
the
housing
division.
I
can
start
by
perhaps
addressing
the
scope
of
the
improvements
which
were
informed
by
several
inspections
of
this
property
and
working
with
the
applicant
to
consider
past
improvements
that
have
been
made
since
the
site
was
acquired.
O
Perhaps
Mr
McMillan
can
speak
to
kind
of
what
that
transition
looks
like
over
the
next
three
four
five
years,
as
we
ship
from
market
rate,
affordable
units
to
committed
affordable
units.
What
does
that
mean
for
the
tenants
and
a
lot
of
this
is
kind
of
prescribed
in
our
conditional
language,
and
we
speak
to
the
deadlines
by
which
some
of
these
improvements
are
anticipated
and
generally
ones
which
mimic
the
typical
permit
terminology
in
the
Boston
Macy's
side
plan.
O
So
as
that
development
precedes
the
improvements
on
the
Haven
site,
concurrently
proceed
as
well,
so
in
our
staff
report
in
the
conditional
language
we
identify
not
just
the
site-wide
Landscaping,
but
also
significant
interior,
an
exterior
building
improvements,
replacing
windows,
Gutters,
roofs,
building
materials,
HVAC
equipment,
LED
fixtures,
but
also
I.
Think
what
I
want
to
keep
emphasizing
is
that
pedestrian
pathway
on
the
eastern
border
of
the
property,
which
spans
approximately
470
feet,
that's
something
that
we
only
envisioned
achieving
through
Redevelopment
of
that
property.
O
The
applicant
has
gone
beyond
meeting
their
minimum
requirements
and
have
committed
to
not
just
improving
that,
but
maintaining
it
and
dedicating
that
with
a
public
access,
easement,
there's
also
language
that
speaks
to
a
Southern
segment
of
that
pathway
beyond
their
second
parking
lot,
which
currently
has
above
great
Utilities
in
place.
Should
the
county
be
interested
in
expanding
that
pathway
in
the
future,
they
have
committed
ten
thousand
dollars
to
helping
us
make
that
Improvement
and
agreeing
to
expand
the
public
access
easement.
O
So,
in
total,
the
value
of
those
improvements
equals
almost
2.8
million
dollars,
but
again
the
conditions
that
we
have
structured,
really
emphasize
the
scope
and
nature
of
those
and
their
delivery,
rather
than
their
value,
because
we
understand
the
value
may
change
over
the
next
three
to
five
years.
So
beyond
the
scope
of
improvements,
I,
don't
know
if
Mr
McMillan
would
like
to
kind
of
just
touch
on
transition
that
the
residents
can
expect
over.
Like
several
years.
AB
Thank
you
good
morning,
everyone,
so
my
name
is
Alex
McMill
and
I'm
with
the
housing
division.
So
to
touch
on
a
couple
of
the
points
in
that
question.
This
is
a
new
calf
operator
to
the
county,
although
they
do
manage
affordable
housing
outside
of
the
county,
so
with
potential
approval
of
this
project,
how?
If
there
is
approval
housing
staff
will
proactively
reach
out
to
the
applicant
and
set
up
meetings
to
go
over
everything
that
is
expected
with
managing
cafs
housing?
AB
Compliance
staff
will
work
with
the
applicant
to
ensure
that
the
costs
are
properly
run
and
managed,
and
then
in
the
next
couple
years.
So
after
the
calf
agreement
is
put
in
place
and
the
conversion
of
units
begins
from
marks
to
calves,
we
are
aware
that
there
are
residents
over
income
currently
at
the
property,
and
residents
at
the
property
will
be
grandfathered
or
retained
for
three
years.
AB
So
there's
a
three
year
grace
period
in
that
conversion.
There
is
also
language
in
the
condition
that
allows
for
a
six-month
extension
and
for
the
applicant
to
work
with
the
county.
If
all
the
casts
haven't
been
delivered
after
those
three
years.
So
there
there
is
some
language
in
there
that
allows
for
flexibility
in
both
parties
to
work
together.
AB
Additionally,
the
natural
turnover
rate
is
about
28
annually
at
the
property,
so
there
is
some
significant
turnover
that
will
occur
in
the
next
three
years,
so
this
plan
does
ensure
that
many
of
the
current
Haven
residents,
a
low-income
Haven
residents,
won't
be
displaced
by
any
sort
of
buy
right
development,
as
we
have
recently
seen
at
Columbia
Gardens.
This
proposal
does
allow
for
low-income
residents
to
stay
in
place,
while
also
ensuring
the
property
will
stay
in
the
County's,
affordable
housing
stock
for
the
long
term.
AB
A
Mr
Ramon,
that's
really
helpful.
Thank
you
and
Mr
majizic.
Thank
you
too,
for
the
point
about
the
scope
of
the
improvements.
Let
me
turn
to
Mr
defranti
and
then
Mr
Karen
Thomas.
L
Thank
you,
Mr
McMillan
I
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
looking
at
page
20,
the
some
of
the
conditions
it
talks
about
HVAC
lights,
energy,
star,
I,
think
I've
had
conversation
with
residents
about
this
I'm,
particularly
glad
to
see
the
waterproofing
I
believe
I've
seen
a
few
pictures
on
this
I'm,
not
100,
sure
I.
Guess
one
question
is
the
2.79
million
all
money
for
improvements
that
would
come.
It
appears
to
me
the
way
I
read
it.
It's
would
come
after
our
approval
today.
L
Z
All
the
improvements
that
are
proffered
to
kind
of
Ensure
the
sustainability
of
the
building
envelopes
and
to
improve
kind
of
the
energy
performance
of
those
buildings
are
improvements
that
we
would
be
making
after
the
County
board.
Approval
of
this
project.
L
Great
one
one
other
thing
item
I'll
just
say
that
I
think
I've
heard
of
concern
at
the
property
is,
and
it
might
not
be
residence
fault.
It
might
be
neighbor's
fault
it
also.
Residents
is,
is
trash
available
space
for
trash
disposal
and
how
that's
handled
and
I'm
not
proposing
to
change
any
language.
L
I
just
really
did
want
to
say
that
out
loud
because
I
seem
to
recall
pretty
clearly
a
phone
call
of
concern
at
the
building
and-
and
you
know
just
when
it's
going
fine
when
there's
enough
space
to
to
dispose
your
trash,
you
don't
even
think
about
it.
But
when
there's
not
having
lived
in,
you
know
a
number
of
apartments
and
condos.
You
really
do
think
about
it.
So
that's
really
all
the
questions,
I
I,
guess
one
more,
which
is
how
do
you
do
an
assessment
of?
L
Z
We're
really
focusing
on
how
the
buildings
themselves
will
stand
the
test
of
time,
giving
kind
of
the
time
frames
that
we're
looking
at
so
really
improving
the
building
envelope.
Building
the
improving
the
Building
Systems
is
really
the
focus,
the
primary
or
top
tier
focus
of
our
Improvement
in
terms
of
the
the
units
again
focusing
on
systems
that
improve
efficiency,
so
energy,
star
appliances,
LED
fixtures,
those
those
are
kind
of
again,
the
Building
Systems,
the
efficiencies
that
were
were
focused
on.
As
as
we
look
forward
to
this,
these
additional
Investments.
L
Great
that
makes
total
sense
shouldn't.
It
should
be
based
in
that,
and
certainly
the
only
other
thing,
I'm
really
pleased
to
hear
of
the
HVAC,
because
I'm,
an
inefficient
HVAC
costs
more
money
to
the
individual
resident
and
does
warm
or
cooler
place,
and
so
that's
and
I
think
I've
heard
that
specific.
With
respect
to
this,
this
building
so
I,
that's
all
of
the
space-based
items
I
want
to
yield
the
floor.
L
I
do
have
a
question
about
sort
of
how
we
do
transfer
development
rights
with
respect
to
that
and
I'll
I
think
I
should
yield
and
then
come
back.
A
That
sounds
great.
We
will
come
back
to
you
for
now:
Mr
Karen,
Thomas,
Ms,
Garvey
and
then
back
to
miss
Percy.
J
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
quick
question
and
as
a
follow-up
to
Mr
ferenti's
line
of
questions.
So
the
there
is
also
a
historic
facade,
easement
right
that
comes
with
that,
and
this
is
permanent.
J
So
you
just
mentioned
that
part
of
the
investment
will
be
in
improving
the
envelope
of
the
building,
so
that
intersects
with
the
historic
facade.
So
how?
How
does
this
you
know?
Historic,
permanent
historic
preservation
is
meant
with
the
now
the
type
of
investment.
So,
for
example,
let's
imagine
some
changing
Windows,
which
these
buildings
have
many
actually
are.
So
how
does
this
affect
the
investment.
P
We're
still
working
with
staff
on
the
historic
preservation
easement
itself,
but
the
language
and
the
conditions
do
contemplate
these
improvements.
Mr
matusek,
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
speak
to
any
of
that
at
all.
O
Yeah
I'm,
the
first
of
all,
the
easement
is
for
the
entire
property
covering
the
exterior
of
the
buildings
and
the
open
space,
and
the
extent
of
the
improvements
that
have
been
discussed
with
the
applicant
are
consistent
with
the
neighborhoods
Farm
based
code,
part
7,
which
deals
with
how
conservation
areas
need
to
be
preserved.
So
we
have
been
closely
working
with
them
and
I
understand.
Lauren
Ferris
from
historic
preservation
is
also
with
us.
I,
don't
know
if
she
had
additional
points
she
wanted
to
make
on
that
foreign.
E
Good
morning,
Lauren
Ferris
with
the
historic
preservation
program.
Yes,
so
the
easement,
as
Mr
matusek
was
saying,
is
for
the
buildings
as
well
as
the
entire
property,
and
although
there
are
some
improvements
that
the
property
owner
wants
to
do
the
property
we're
in
support
of
those,
we
don't
see
any
issues
with
what
those
proposed
improvements
will
be
one
thing
about
historic
preservation:
easements
Arlington
County
we
hold
over
12
historic
preservation,
easements
and
their
changes
that
they're
proposing
well,
basically,
historic
preservation.
E
Easement
will
protect
the
property
as
it
is
now
and
that
will
protect
the
property
owner
as
well
as
the
County's
interest.
There
have
been
some
changes
to
the
Haven
Apartments.
There
have
been
some
roof
alterations,
there's
been
window
replacement,
some
of
the
exterior
doors
have
been
replaced
and
therefore,
if
this
is
approved
and
the
historic
preservation
easement
is
put
into
the
need,
they
can
continue
to
replace
the
windows
because
they've
already
been
replaced.
E
The
thing
that
we
will
be
talking
with
the
property
owner
on
is
making
sure
that
what
the
design
of
those
replacement
windows
as
an
example
are
consistent
with
the
property
and
its
character,
defining
features,
and
just
that.
It's
done
well
also
that
the
easement
protects
the
property
owner
in
a
way
where
they
do
not
have
to
have
that
historic
district
buildings
or
elements
of
the
property
go
back
to
what
was
originally
there
in
the
1950s.
We
see
that
as
kind
of
being
overreaching
and
is
not
part
of
the
easement
agreement.
J
Thank
you,
Mrs
Ferris,
a
a
a
little
follow-up
question
that
does
any
of
these
actions
make
the
applicant
eligible
for
historic
preservation,
tax
credits.
E
So
that
is
a
great
question,
thanks
for
bringing
that
up,
so
the
property
when
it
has
the
easement
on
it,
it
then
also
could
be
eligible
for
state
or
federal
Rehabilitation
tax
credits.
Currently,
the
historic
preservation
program
has
already
determined
that
the
property
is
eligible
to
be
included
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places.
That
is
a
federal
honorary
listing
for
National
Historic
properties.
E
Now
the
property
owner
would
need
to
go
through
a
formal
process
to
be
formally
added
onto
the
national
register
and
if
they
were
to
pursue
that,
they
would
be
eligible
for
25
Rehabilitation,
tax
credits
with
the
state
or
20
with
the
federal
tax
credit,
and
they
also
could
now
that
they're,
an
easement
property
could
when
they
become
an
easement
property.
If
they
become
an
amusement
property,
they
also
could
be
eligible
for
a
charitable
tax
donation.
E
With
an
agreement
with
the
IRS
and
thank
you
for
the
County
Board,
they
would
be
eligible
for
his
Arlington
County
historic
preservation
fund
grants,
which
means
they
could
be
eligible
for
Capital
Improvements
up
to
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
a
matching
with
a
match,
100
match,
or
they
could
be
eligible
for
non-capital
improvements,
which
would
be
twenty
five
thousand.
A
possibility
of
25
000
Grant.
J
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
Ms
Ferris.
It
was
really
helpful.
K
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
I
just
want
to
remark
that
I'm
really
pleased
how
reasonable
we
are
on
historic
preservation.
Now
I
remember
as
a
school
board.
Member.
At
one
point
we
were
going
to
be
forced
to
use
the
original
windows
in
a
format
which
was
extremely
expensive,
because
those
windows
didn't
exist
and
then,
of
course,
they
aren't
energy
efficient
either.
So
this
is
good.
It's
reasonable
and
and
I
think
it's
great
I
also
am
pleased
about
the
the
TDR
I
mean
this
is
this
is
kind
of
cool
and
the
preservation
of
calves.
K
All
of
this
is
great
and
I
actually
am
not
going
to
ask
you
any
questions
about
this
I'll,
just
Mark
I
think
I
have
made
this
comment.
I
think
it's
about
once
a
year
and
I'm
going
to
really
try
to
work
on
it
this
year,
as
I
as
a
board
member.
This
is
for
staff.
I
really
want
to
look
more
into
this
issue
of
people
who
are
in
Marx
and
they're
saving
money
because
they
earn
too
much
and
they're
trying
to
square
away
money.
K
So
they
can
then
make
an
investment
and
live
here
in
Arlington,
but
they
need
to
be
able
to
save
that
money
and
we
keep
taking
that
away
because
it's
getting
so
there's
less
and
less
fewer
and
fewer
marks,
and
it's
good
to
have
calves
but
I'm
I'm,
starting
to
worry
more
and
more
about
the
people
with
the
80
to
120
percent
and
can
they
live?
You
know
you
need
a
wrong.
K
An
economic
rung
to
go
out
and
I
feel
like
we're
kind
of
pulling
out
a
run
for
people
to
make
that
step
up
and
be
able
to
stay
here.
So
that's
an
overall
issue.
I'm
really
interested
in
and
I'll,
probably
be
asking
for
some
some
briefings
and
I
think
moving
forward.
As
we
start
to
shift
more
and
more
and
having
more
and
more
calves.
K
You
know
I
think
it's
a
policy
issue
that
we
really
ought
to
be
looking
looking
at
and
as
I
say,
I
think
I've
said
that
before
I'm
realizing
and
haven't
really
followed
through
and
I'm
going
to
really
try
to
do
that
this
year.
So
thank
you
and
appreciate
all
the
work.
K
A
Thank
you,
Miss
Garvey
sure,
Dorsey.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
so
just
to
be
clear
that
I'm
Jermaine
here
are.
We
can
I
talk
about
calfs
housing
or
just
The
Haven
at
this
point.
Where
are
we?
What
are
you
looking
great.
A
I
So
I
tell
you
what
why
don't
I
make
a
comment
on
the
Haven,
then
I'll
transition
to
some
questions
and
conversation
on
the
housing
program
so
first
is
relates
to
The
Haven
I
I'm
actually
very
excited
about
bringing
a
new
operator
into
the
space
as
Mr
McMillan
outline.
I
You
know,
while
we
value
the
partners
that
we
currently
have
in
that
space,
not
always
have
things
gone
well
and
so
introducing
a
new
new
entrant
to
potentially
provide
some
diversification
of
options,
and
perhaps
some
healthy
competition
is,
is
never
a
bad
thing
and
I've
been
heartened
that
over
the
course
of
its
long
existence
as
a
market,
affordable
Community,
it
seems
that
the
Haven
has
been
all
things
considered,
relatively
well
maintained
compared
to
some
other
properties
that
we
have
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
through
over
the
last
few
years.
I
So
I
have
my
hopes
that
the
the
inspection
regime
and
the
the
capital
plan
will
allow
for
that
to
be
maintained
sufficiently
moving
forward.
I
do
have
a
question
question
actually
on
this
item
from
Mr
McMillan.
If
he's
still
with
us.
I
I
Engagement
and
empowerment
and
I
just
want
to
get
a
sense
from
you,
as
you
work
with
the
operator
that
it's
going
to
be
a
priority
to
ensure
that
there
are
healthy
opportunities
for
tenants
to
engage
with
management
and
that
there
is
going
to
be
some
really
thoughtful
approaches
to
ensuring
that
that
engagement
is
respectful
and
mutually
beneficial.
To
avoid
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
encountered
recently
elsewhere,.
AB
Yes,
thank
you
for
that
question
so
correct.
We
have
had
some
recent
issues,
but
throughout
that
process
you
know
we
we
did
have
the
joint
subcommittee
with
the
tenant
landlord
commissioner
in
the
Housing
Commission,
and
we
really
did
develop
some
strong
recommendations
going
forward
and
I
do
think.
It's
a
it's
a
pathway
forward.
AB
It's
bringing
this
new
calf
operator
and
it's
an
opportunity
to
use
those
Lessons
Learned
those
recommendations
and
to
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
the
calves
are
up
to
obviously
all
housing
quality
standards,
but
up
to
you,
know
very
livable
and
just
being
a
great
place
to
live
there
on
Columbia
Pike,
so
that
that
report
is
definitely
something
in
the
back
of
our
minds
as
we
bring
in
a
new
calf
operator
and
as
I
mentioned
early
earlier,
housing
staff
will
be
proactive
in
reaching
out
to
the
applicant
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
on
the
same
page
with
how
calfs
are
managed
in
the
county.
I
And
should
be
managed
in
the
county,
I
think
more
to
the
point.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
you
know
I'll
just
say
for
me.
You
know:
I
know
that
there
have,
you
know,
been
some
who
are
concerned
at
the
cementing
of
calves
at
this
market
rate
community,
and
you
know
just
from
my
point
of
view,
the
policy
that
we
have,
that
that
guides
Redevelopment
in
Columbia
Pike
is
that
we
experience
no
net
loss
in
in
Market,
affordable
housing
and
so
the
way
we
achieve
that
is
through
the
conversion
of
those
to
calves.
I
And
while
this
does
not
create
a
Redevelopment
opportunity
at
this
site,
that
could
add
to
a
diversification
of
housing
in
the
area.
I
will
remind
folks
that
if
this
property
were
to
be
sold
to
someone
who
sought
private
Redevelopment,
that
would
create
a
very
reasonable
public
expectation
that
we
manage
the
displacement
of
those
who
existed
in
those
marks.
I
And
so
we
take
that
public
policy
issue
off
the
table
and
I
will
also
note
that
this
particular
regular
project
comes
with
it
significant
public
realm
improvements
which
will
create
some
benefits
for
everyone,
not
just
at
the
Haven,
but
who
lives
in
the
Arlington
Mill
neighborhood,
which
is
pretty
close
to
where
I
live
on
to
some
questions
about
the
the
housing
program
at
the
other
site.
So
I
noticed
in
the
conditions
and
I
just
want
some
clarity.
Perhaps
this
comes
from
our
staff
that.
I
There
is
a
condition
requirement
as
it
relates
to
the
two-bedroom
calves,
which
says
that
a
unit
singular
shall
have
access
to
an
exterior
window
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
was
a
typo
and
should
thusly
apply
to
all
of
the
two-bedroom
calf
units
that
are
in
the
site.
I'm,
sorry
I
didn't
know,
which
condition
that
was
I'll
try
to
find
it
quickly.
V
AB
Yes,
so
thanks
in
our
standard
conditions,
housing
has
inserted
language
that
calls
for
all
bedrooms
to
have
access.
You
know
have
a
window
to
the
exterior.
However,
that
was
not
a
typo,
because
in
this
case
they
are
only
earning
through
bonus
density
that
that
One
Singular
calf,
two
bedroom
calf,
so
we're
holding
them
to
the
standard
condition
for
that
single,
singular
calf
for
the
11
other
calves
that
are
up
to
80
Ami.
AB
They
were
given.
You
know,
basically
above
and
beyond
units
voluntarily
by
the
applicant,
and
so
the
county
didn't
have
the
same
ability
to
require
that
those
units
all
have
exterior
bedroom
windows.
So
that
is
not
a
typo.
It
will
be
a
requirement
for
the
one
unit
that's
being
earned
through
density,
but
not
for
the
11
others.
I
Got
it
so
it's
a
matter
of
what
we
can
condition
and
require
not
necessarily
an
indication
of
what
the
development
program
is
for
how
these
units
are
situated.
It's
just
that
the
county
doesn't
have
a
public
interest
in
dictating
that
design,
though,
in
fact
those
units
could
reasonably
have
bedrooms
exterior
access,
just
like
this
correct
got
it
and
similarly
I
guess
that
also
relates
to
why
there
was
the
language
in
that
condition,
stricken
about
applicability
to
the
building
code.
AB
Yep
similar
answer
there
in
our
standard
housing
conditions,
we
do
require
a
certain
amount
of
square
feet
per
bedroom
and
based
on
unit
type,
one
two
or
three
bedroom,
but
that
language
was
also
stricken
for
the
same
reason,
there's
not
the
same
leverage
with
the
above
and
beyond
units.
I
Terrific
thank
you
and
I
guess
now
for
the
development
team.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
commend
you
for
as
part
of
this,
that
the
Ami
units,
not
only
are
you
know,
following
our
guidelines,
but
also
for
five
years
you've
agreed
to
cap.
The
potential
rent
increases
to
five
percent,
even
if
Ami
increases
are
greater
I.
Think
that's
a
really
nice
feature
and
it's
to
be
commended
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
program
that
you
have
decided
to
pursue
with
the
one
on-site
unit,
the
80
units
and
then
the
cash
contribution.
I
Can
you
give
me
a
little
sense
of
why,
since
you
are
operating
calves
at
the
building
that
you
wouldn't
just
add
fulfill
your
requirement?
Excuse
me,
through
through
all
on-site
units,
as
opposed
to
the
bifurcation,
it
looks
to
me
that
that
would
yield
an
additional
13
units
at
the
site.
Can
you
just
give
me
a
sense
of
the
business
decisions
that
were
made
not
to
pursue
that
option.
P
I
might
ask
Sarah
to
take
a
look
at
that.
We
did
have
a
discussion
with
staff
about
utilizing
the
the
1.5
million
contribution
for
on-site
units
Sarah.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
the
business
decisions
and
I'll
say
too?
As
far
as
the
as
far
as
the
bedrooms,
you
know
we
we
have
the
the
unit
breakdown
in
the
condition,
the
actual
design
of
the
unit.
Some
of
them
may
end
up
having
Windows
in
in
the
bedroom.
Some
may
not.
P
Z
Yeah
and,
and
to
that
point
right,
we
we,
we
will
not
be
designing
you
special
units
that
are
different
for
the
affordable
housing
units
versus
what
we
are
offering
for
our
market
rate
units.
So
you
know
the
the
affordable
units
that
we're
committing
to
will
be
comparable
and
identical
to
kind
of
the
units
that
that
the
market
rate
units
just
so
that
there's
no
misunderstanding
as
it
relates
to
the
ahif
funds.
We,
you
know,
we
certainly
I,
think
have
asked
the
question
several
times.
Z
I
think
there's
not
a
mechanism
right
now,
but
if,
if
the
a
have
funds
were
to
be
recast
to
create
deeper
affordability
for
the
the
units
that
we've
committed
to
we,
we
are
absolutely
a
willing
partner
to
to
kind
of
create
deeper
affordability
or
more
affordable
units.
Using
the
the
ahif
contribution
at
the
property.
I
Z
With
with
the
in
you
of
kind
of
making
VA,
if,
if
the
ahif
monies
were
to
be
recast
and
contributed
towards
deepening
affordability
at
the
property
were
open
absolutely
to
that
conversation.
A
1.5,
so
why
not
use
that
ahif
money
not
to
deepen
the
affordability
but.
P
But
I,
so
this
is
our
base:
affordable,
housing
contribution
fund,
where
we
have
the
option
of
adding
units
off-site
units
or
stroking
HX
to
ahif
and
I.
Think
we've
chosen
the
latter.
That's
correct,
I,
don't
know
if
we've
had
a
discussion
with
Alex
about
adding
units,
but.
Z
That
that's
right,
so
I
think
the
the
math
we
have
the
the
option
of
either
making
the
ahif
contribution
or
making
12
12
13
units
about
12
000
square
feet
of
of
dedicating
them
as
of
right,
affordable
at
sixty
percent
of
area
mean
income,
so
I
think
it.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it
was
a
an
exercise
in
math
to
be,
you
know
very
Frank
about
it.
Z
I
think
we
we
we
you
know,
have
a
big
project
and
and
when
we
we
kind
of
looked
at
the
different
options,
the
contribution
was
the
the
reasonable
option.
P
B
I
So
so
you
know
that
this
is
just
I
think,
just
like
the
you
know,
grocery
tenant
and
transportation
conversation
I'm,
unfortunately
becoming
more
unsettled
as
I
hear
it,
because
just
the
implication
of
this-
and
this
is
not
solely
your
burden
to
bear.
But
if
the
business
decision
is
that
the
cash
is
better
than
the
units,
then
we
have
a
structural
issue
with
fulfilling
our
affordable
housing
contribution
requirement
where
cash
will
be
the
default.
I
If
the
units
somehow
create
a
a
less
enticing
business
opportunity,
because,
as
I
understand
the
housing
program
here,
you're
already
situated
to
operate,
calves
on
site
you're
you're
going
to
be
doing
13
of
them
as
it
is,
and
so
if
the
marginal
cost
of
administering
13
additional
calves
on
site
was
not
something
that
was
desirable
to
you
and
cutting
the
check
was
that
creates
a
larger
problem.
In
my
mind,
Beyond
just
the
issue
at
hand
for
us
today,
I'll
leave
it
there.
A
L
L
Af
is
a
better
option
than
on-site
from
our
staff
level.
I
know
I
mean
the
board,
wouldn't
so
I
think
that
there's
a
broader
issue
that
is
worth
following
up
on
for
sure
I
did
want
to
ask
a
question
about
slide:
7
that
you
presented
Miss
Badger
and
our
team
and
and
I
really
appreciate
Mr
Burkey,
making
the
point
about
preservation
of
affordable
units
there's
a
discussion
that
goes
I
mean
certainly
the
West
End
of
the
pike.
L
If
you
look
at
a
heat
map
of
our
neighborhood,
so
the
least
our
census
tracts
with
the
least
income,
the
West
End
of
the
pike
is
perhaps
our
our
neighborhood
a
set
of
neighborhoods,
where
we
most
need
to
drive
services
from
an
equity
point
of
view.
On
this
on
this,
one
I
wanted
to
ask
about
there's
Fillmore
and
Barcroft
for
preservation
and
the
the
category
eligible
for
redevelopment
under
Commercial
form-based
Code.
L
You
know
we
have
the
pro
a
couple
of
projects
that
have
delivered
market
rate
units
right
in
near
that
neighborhood
and
I'm
just
curious
what
that
means.
You
know
we're
doing
preservation
in
a
neighborhood
that
is
not
colored,
Conservation
Area
and
wanted
to
get
the
thoughts
on.
L
L
Enclosed
blue
area,
where
the
Haven
is
and
whether
it's
just
preservation
or
additional
density
would
be
more
driven
towards
market-based
units
keeping
in
mind.
We
want
more
affordable
units
county-wide.
But
can
you
explain
to
me
that
the
the
conservation
concept
and
how
it
applies
to
the
that
the
the
area
where
the
Haven
is.
O
Yeah
I
can
start
with
that
one
if
others
want
to
join,
but
several
elements
to
unpack
in
your
question.
First,
the
two
conservation
areas
that
exist
in
the
neighborhoods
from
race
code
represent
I
think
the
two
properties
that
were
at
most
risk
of
not
just
losing
the
historic
nature,
both
being
essential
on
the
historic
resource
inventory,
but
the
pure
volume
of
housing,
affordability
and
the
inventory
of
units
that
exist
there.
O
One
of
the
things
that
also
come
into
play
is
if
we
look
at
the
Haven
Apartments,
the
automobile
neighborhood,
and
perhaps
one
of
our
backup,
slides
40,
might
be
the
best
one
to
highlight
this
is
we
are
not
with
this
action,
adding
affordability
to
that
neighborhood,
we're
simply
preserving
what's
there,
and
it
is
important
to
note
that
the
threat
of
buy
right
is
happening
just
down
the
street
on
Greenbrier
and
eighth
Road,
where
you
have
the
already
demolition
that
happened
with
the
you
know,
project.
O
That's
coming
in
to
deliver
40
town
homes
that
would
be
for
sale,
separate
from
that
and
using
the
neighborhoods
from
base
code
down
the
street
on
Greenbrier.
We
have
the
upcoming
delivery
of
400
multi-family
units
that
will
be
market
rate
in
the
first
phase
of
the
Greenbrier
Apartments
Redevelopment
Pike
West,
and
there
will
be
other
opportunities
in
that
neighborhood,
primarily
from
rental
properties,
but
potentially
from
Condominiums
as
well.
O
O
We
actually
have
more
typical
Redevelopment
occur
in
those
sites
where
some
of
the
commercial
plazas
seem
to
be
located
and
I.
Think
historically,
those
are
some
of
the
initial
sites
that
tend
to
be
right
for
the
development.
Given
the
trend
that
we've
observed
along
the
corridor,
so
a
lot
of
opportunities
existing
and
in
the
future,
and
we
feel
that
that's
something
we
continue
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
look
at
the
totality
of
units
in
that
neighborhood.
L
Great,
that's
very
helpful.
I
I,
there's
context
there
with
respect
to
Fillmore
that
I'd
once
known
but
forgotten,
and
so
yeah
I,
just
I
want
to
be
really
mindful
of
preserving
units
that
are
there,
but
also
and
and
density,
is
certainly
important,
but
also
work
on
this
balance
between
market
rate
units
and
affordable
units
and
and
I
open
space
with
Tyra
Hill
Park
I
guess
the
only
other
question
I
have
is.
L
There
was
a
reference
in
the
staff
report
to
6
000,
plus
marks
and
I'm
trying
to
just
test
my
understanding
because
there's
you
know
we
come
way
down
in
the
number
of
marks,
and
so
preserving
that
when
it
happened
in
2012
I
think
is
what
the
staff
report
said
before
that
we
had
already
lost
some
10
000
or
many
affordable.
Many
marks
along
Columbia
Pike
and
even
some
towards
the
West
End
of
the
pike
is
that
do
I.
Have
the
big
picture
correct
there?
L
P
Chair,
if
I
could
go
back
to
something
that
Mr
Dorsey
had
mentioned,
I
think
there
was
some
confusion
on
our
end
about
what
was
being
asked.
So
we
have
our
base
affordable
housing
contribution,
which
is
1.5
million
dollars,
and
the
zoning
ordinance
allows
a
land
use
applicant
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
provide
a
check,
provide
on-site
units
or
provide
near
offset
units.
We
were
talking
I
think
we
were
getting
sort
of
confused
about
deepening
level
affordability
for
the
80
units.
P
We
are
happy
to
dedicate
that
the
the
base,
affordable
housing
contribution
towards
additional
on-site
units
at
Macy's
for
that
for
that
amount,
I,
don't
have
the
math
in
front
of
me,
but
we're
happy
to
have
that
discussion
with
Mr
McMillan
to
find
out.
Okay
is
that
equivalent
to
one
three
bedroom
unit,
two
two
bedroom
units.
You
know
happy
to
do
that
so
I'm.
Sorry,
if
there
was
a.
A
Confusion,
no
I'm
delighted
to
hear
that
I
think
I
mean
Mr
Dorsey
can
clarify,
since
it
was
his
point
I
think
we
would
all
very
much
welcome
that.
Absolutely.
P
P
Have
that
conversation
be
great
but
yeah,
I'm,
sorry
for
the
confusion.
A
That's
worth
clarifying,
indeed
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
would
need
to
incorporate
that
into
the
site
plan
that
can
certainly
be
worked
out
in
post
approval.
Is
that
correct,
Mr,
Ms,
Badger
Mr
machusic
and
make
sure
that
I'll
double
check
the
next
next
couple
minutes
and
great
that
sounds
great,
but
I
I
think
we'd
appreciate
that
approach,
that,
with
quite
a
bit
of
enthusiasm,
I
think
the
opportunity
to
both
preserve
affordability,
where
it
exists
and
increase.
Affordability
in
a
high
opportunity
area
like
Boston,
would
be
welcome
news
indeed.
So
thank
you.
A
About
to
ask
the
same
look
at
that,
it's
a
win-win-win
all
right!
Well,
actually,
I
am
gonna
move
us
now
towards
emotion,
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
get
one
on
the
floor
as
we
begin
to
finalize
I.
Imagine
we'll
probably
all
have
some
some
concluding
remarks
and
we'll,
of
course
give
this
Badger
some
time
to
clarify
that
for
us,
Mr,
Karen,
Thomas,
I'm
gonna,
give
you
this
weighty
task
of
moving
all
of
the
related
items.
If
you
don't
mind.
J
Yeah,
we
need
to
hear
that,
so
the
motion
is
as
follows:
first,
to
adopt
on
the
the
the
ordinance
to
amend,
reenact
and
recodify,
the
Arlington
County
zoning
ordinance,
article
11.2
Columbia,
Pike
neighborhoods,
form-based
code
districts,
appendix
B,
Western,
sub-area,
regulating
plan
to
designate
The
Haven
Apartments
as
a
Converse
owns
Conservation
Area
and
to
incorporate
Associated
changes
to
the
conservation
area
standards
which
is
attachment
a
to
the
country
border
report.
J
Second,
to
approve
of
the
subject:
use
permit
in
accordance
with
the
Columbia
Pike
neighborhoods
form-based
code,
article
11.2
of
the
zoning
ordinance
for
the
conservation
of
the
Haven
apartment,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
the
staff
report
number
three
to
adopt
if
they
attached
to
the
attached
resolution,
they
attached
to
the
to
The
Cutting
Board,
reporter
Dutchman
B
certifying
118
residential
units,
which
may
be
transferred
at
a
rate
of
two
per
unit
at
transferable,
to
very
opened
rights
of
the
Haven
Apartments
sending
site
for
the
purposes
of
historic
preservation
and
committed,
affordable
housing.
J
That's
attachment
bill
on
on
our
report
on
our
board
report.
Now.
That's
now
that
was
the
first
part
part
eight
Part
B
to
approve
the
attached
resolution.
Transferring
236
residential
units
from
5107
Road
South,
that's
RPC,
number
22-001-024,
sending
site
to
685
and
701
North
Glebe
Road,
that's
RPC!.
J
With
with
modifications
of
zoning,
Ordnance
requirements,
including
additional
density,
reduce
parking
and
loading
requirements,
density
exclusions
and
other
modifications
as
necessary
to
achieve
the
proposed
development
plan,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
the
attached
ordinance
and
finally,
Part
D
to
enact
the
attached
ordinance
of
encroachment
to
permit
the
encroachment
of
an
underground
electric
Transformer
Vault
within
the
easement
of
for
public
Street
and
utilities
purposes
of
701
and
600
685
North
Glebe
Road,
that's
RPC
number
14-059,
Dash
pae.
A
J
Just
briefly,
we
had
a
very
robust
conversation
here.
I
I
do
believe
that
this
is
the
right
mixed
use
urbanism
for
for
Balsam.
For
that
place
it
adds
you
know
significant
residential
capacity
and
density
and
matched
with
this
commercial
in
office
live
play,
work
place.
J
Ballston
is
really
located
strategically.
As
one
of
our
you
know,
activity
centers
that
right
now
need
the
most
support.
It's
also
very
strategic
asset
for
Arlington,
because
it's
really
in
the
in
the
middle
between
you
know
the
big
Urban
core
in
the
metropolitan
region
and
the
the
emerging
you
know,
activity
centers
around
us
tours
Tysons
Etc.
This
is
an
excellent
project
there
and
it's
also
anchored
by
a
significant
Encore
business,
which
is
this
grocer
grocery
store,
I
I
I.
J
Don't
want
to
underestimate
the
the
importance
of
that
I
think
that
the
the
application
of
the
TDR
policy
of
10
years
now
10
years
ago,
that
was
envisioned
for
a
different
in
a
different
place
and
under
different
conditions
that
at
least
works
for
this
and
I,
don't
believe
that
it
I
I
do
believe
that
it
delivers
on
Columbia
Pike,
also
significant
benefits,
because
I
do
think
that
the
preservation
of
this
of
this
Haven
Apartments,
if
tuner
right,
if
Done
Right,
will
preserve
really
quality,
affordable
housing
in
a
place.
J
That
is
that
that
still
needs
it
and
as
Mr
Dorsey
mentioned
before,
we
are
still
in
a
position
where
we
are
losing
market
rate
housing
on
Columbia
Pike.
So
the
reasons
why
we
have
enacted
the
TDR
policy
in
the
first
place
are
still
there.
I
definitely
think
that
the
the
project,
for
various
reasons-
and
this
is
one
of
these-
delivers
on
the
Environmental
Quality
side.
I
perfectly
hear
the
critical
appraisal
of
c2e2
of
our
environment
of
and
climate
change,
commission
that
only
a
partial
part
of
our
goals
are
attained
here.
J
But
I
want
to
remind
everybody
that
not
only
are
we
getting
a
project
with
a
you
know:
Green
roofs
and
a
lead
goal
project,
but
we
also
accomplished
to
preserve
embodied
carbon
in
the
sending
site
which
to
me
is
a
significant
part
that
hasn't
been
considered
in
the
in
the
balance
of
the
project
and
I
and
I.
Think
that's.
You
know
a
a
significant
feature
of
that.
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
leap
Crossing
and
the
right,
the
right
turn
is
continues
to
be
a
big
issue.
J
I
do
believe
that
the
grocer
and
the
owner
of
this
building
will
soon
understand
that
their
insistence
in
in
having
this
left
turn
is
really
not
worth
this.
J
I
do
believe
that
we
have
to
make
the
outmost
effort
to
improve
The
Pedestrian
safety
there,
and
there
is
one
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
I
still
think
that
haven't
been
achieved,
but
they
are
not
deal
breakers
for
me
like,
for
example,
the
bike
ability
of
the
entire
block,
which
is
not
given
neither
on
Wilson
nor
North
clip
Road,
you
have
bicycle
racks
in
front
of
the
of
you
know
pictured
in
front
of
the
entrance
of
the
grocery
store,
but
there
is
no,
you
know
sufficient
safe
infrastructure
around
that,
so
we
all
have
to
work
around
that.
J
But
I
do
believe
that
your
550
new
households,
there
will
I
hope
that
they
will
create
enough
pressure
to
get
us
all
to
to
reconsider
these
things
when
when
soon
when
the
project
will
be
ready,
I
do
have
a
couple
of
takeaways.
That
gave
me
a
lot
of
of
thought.
First
of
all,
I
do
believe
that
we
have
to
revisit
our
TDR
preservation
policy
for
the
pike
it's
about
time.
It's
not
only
about
you
know
the
value
of
the
terms
of
transferable
rights.
It's
also
about
the
multipliers.
J
There
was
a
reason
why
we
give
a
two
times
for
for
receiving
sites
on
you
know
an
outside
place
of
the
country
and
three
times
from
Columbia
Pike.
This
is
all
based
on
economic
analysis
that
was
happening
in
2012
under
different
conditions
and
I
do
believe
that
it's
a
good,
a
good
moment
to
rethink
that.
I
also
think
that
we
may
also
revisit
our
plan
Boston.
J
It
shows
its
age
now
since
1986,
if
I'm
not
wrong
and
in
conjunction
with
a
discussion
about
how
to
optimally
utilize
parking
that
already
exists
in
Boston
either
attached
to
the
super
block
or
our
surrounding,
and
you
know
we
are
still
discussing
parking
as
if
it
if
every
single
place,
who
should
have
a
single
building,
should
have
the
optimal
number
of
parking
sites.
But
we
have
a
lot
of
parking
that
is
right
now,
I
would
say
very
often
under
utilizing.
J
We
don't
have
discuss
how
to
distribute
the
those
who
decide
to
drive
to
Boston,
which
I
hope
it
will
be
a
diminishing
number
over
time
how
to
get
how
to
have
the
way.
Finding
the
you
know
the
technology
to
find
parking
easily
Fast
close
to
where
they
want
to
go
and
use
it
the
best
without
having
us
to
have
to
produce
with
such
difficulty
all
this
amenities
to
get
them
in.
We
have
to
move
from
the
car
based.
You
know,
Paradigm
into
a
walkable,
Paradigm
and
I.
J
AC
Yes,
I'm
I'm,
seeking
a
clarification
in
the
motion
that
was
just
made
when
I
was
listening
to
it.
I
heard
RPC
number
zero.
Three
nine
included
in
the
motion
for
Action
B,
which
is
approval
of
the
resolution
and
I,
would
like
staff
to
confirm
this
for
me,
but
I
believe
zero.
AC
Three
nine
is
included
only
in
the
Amendment
of
the
site
plan,
but
it
is
not
intended
to
be
included
in
the
TDR
action,
so
so
the
it
is
correctly
reflected
in
the
board
report
that
it
includes
zero,
zero,
four,
four:
zero:
four:
five:
zero:
three:
eight
for
the
TBR
action,
not
zero:
three:
nine,
okay,
yeah.
N
I
A
Certainly
is
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
the
catch.
Mr
defranti
with
concluding
comments.
L
I,
let's
see
very
just
brief,
concluding
thoughts.
Thank
you.
You
know.
We've
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
when
you
think
of
it
as
553
and
118
units.
That's
a
large
number
of
units.
This
is
a
big
addition
of
housing
Supply,
both
in
the
important
way
of
preserving
units
and
their
quality,
as
well
as
in
the
new
units
so
happy
to
support
this.
L
Thank
you
to
miss
Badger
and
all
of
the
staff
for
the
presentation
and
the
work
on
this
really
appreciate
it.
Mr
McMillan
as
well
I,
do
think.
I
have
to
note
that
chair
Berkey,
if
you're
still
on
it's
pretty
self-evident,
that
your
service
on
the
Housing
Commission
has
far
far
eclipsed
my
own.
Thank
you
for
being
an
outstanding
chair
and
for
your
comments
today
on
the
preservation
piece
of
it,
and
one
thing
I
will
try
to
follow
up
on
is
the
we.
L
We
approved
a
position
to
oversee,
committed,
committed,
affordable
units
and
the
quality
based
on
our
discussion
of
the
last
two
or
three
years.
You
know
I
wanna
I'll
check
back
with
the
housing
director
unless
Mr
manager.
You
know
offhand
if
that
position
has
been
hired.
Yet
or
but
I'll
happily
follow
up
afterwards
on
that
one
and
I
assume
we'll
also
try
and
get
a
buttoned
up
Clarity
on
the
question
of
additional
on
site
and
I'll,
leave
that
to
you
as
chair.
Unless
you
miss
Badger,
you
already.
N
To
it,
yes,
our
guidance
is
to
not
change
the
condition
that
can
be
worked
out.
Post.
L
A
No
I'm
glad
you,
you
mentioned
that
Mr,
definiti
and
I
might
even
go
so
far.
Assuming
this
is
acceptable
to
the
maker
of
the
motion
consider
some
informal
guidance
that
we
would
love
to
hear
or
report
back
on
how
that
goes
so
just
make
sure
the
manager
clocks
that
from
us,
if
we
could,
could
let
us
know
how
that
goes
in
post
approval,
I
think
there's
strong
interest
from
the
board.
Thank
you
appreciate
that
Mr
defranti
and
Ms
Garvey
yeah.
K
Thank
you,
I'll
be
quick
too.
We've
been
here
quite
a
while
now
what
struck
me
was
really
the
collaborative
effort
that
this
seems
to
have
been
between
the
applicant
and
staff
and
it's
really
worked
out,
I
think
for
the
benefit
of
of
Arlington.
It's
not
been
easy.
Clearly,
you've
been
working
on
this
for
a
long
long
time,
so
thank
you.
I
particularly
noted
that
the
applicants
gone
above
and
beyond
both
on
the
pathway
and
on
the
number
of
calves
and
now
we're
looking
like
we're
going
to
even
do
more.
K
Thank
you
really
appreciate
that
quite
a
bit
and
then
I
really
love
the
before
and
after
pictures
that
you
all
showed
it
really
is
a
much
improved
design,
I
think
after
our
staff
had
input,
and
probably
our
commissions
as
well,
so
thank
you
for
being
flexible,
I
think
we're
in
a
much
better
place
all
around
and
look
forward
to
maybe
more
collaborative
projects
in
the
future.
I'm
really
delighted
to
have
some
more
actors
here
with
our
affordable,
housing
and
and
working
with
us
on
that.
I
You,
madam
chair,
I'll,
try
to
be
brief.
So
of
the
what
was
it
six
items
that
are
before
us
as
part
of
the
motion?
It's
the
ones
about
the
Haven
Apartments
that
that
actually
most
interest
and
excite
me
that's
not
to
disparage
the
the
Macy
site,
which
is
also
incredibly
important,
but
I.
Think
that's
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
the
reasons
that
the
maker
of
the
motion-
Mr
Karen
Thomas,
mentioned
to
utilize
a
few
different
policy
tools
to
achieve
pretty
important
results
as
it
relates
to
the
the
Macy
site.
I
We
spent
a
good
deal
of
time
talking
about
transportation
and
I've
had
to
mull
over
this
during
the
course
of
this
hearing,
and
while
I
am
very
much
associating
myself
with
the
concerns
that
the
traffic
degradation
that
would
occur
with
the
introduction
of
of
the
movement
is,
is
something
that
could
potentially
cause
harm
to
pedestrians,
because
you
know
any
changes
in
movements.
Complexities
as
Mr
Sullen
noted,
can
can
put
pedestrians
at
risk
If.
I
It
creates
cueing,
for
example,
on
Saturday,
which
is
an
important
day
when
we
see
that
this
would
potentially
be
most
problematic
is
also
a
day
where
you're
going
to
introduce
more
pedestrians
to
the
mix,
creating
the
potential
for
more
conflicts.
That
is
a
concern.
I
I
think
there
are
broad
array
of
mitigations
that
have
been
proposed
and
that
could
further
be
employed
should
that
ever
come
to
to
pass,
which
gives
me
some
level
of
comfort
but,
broadly
speaking,
you
know,
I
think
the
performance
of
of
this
site
is
really
important,
not
just
to
the
developer
of
this
site
really
to
all
of
Arlington.
It's
an
important
piece
to
the
Western
gateway
to
Boston.
I
The
the
harm
that
would
come
from
under
utilizing
the
site
is
that
it
would
essentially
diminish
the
performance
of
this
site
decades
into
the
future,
and,
and
also
it's
not
with
without
noting
that
I
do
believe
that
there
would
actually
be
some
harm
if
we
did
not
maximize
access
into
the
site
more
confusing
that
you
make
it
the
more
challenging
that
you
make
it,
even
though
a
number
of
people
will
ultimately
figure
it
out.
I
The
cost
of
that
is
increased
emissions
through
people
driving
around
trying
to
figure
out
what
to
do
diverted
attention
when
they
do
so,
and
people
who
are
driving
with
their
attention
diverted
can
cause
also
conflicts
for
people
who
are
walking
biking
and
using
other
modes,
so
not
a
zero-sum
game.
Other
elements
of
this
that
I
am
excited
about
are
the
possibility
that
the
entirety
of
the
affordable
housing
contribution
could
be
fulfilled
on
site
I.
I
Think
that
would
be
incredibly
important,
and
you
know
this
project
I
think
overall
meets
and
in
some
cases
exceed
standards
that
we
see
is
important
so
on
to
on
balance.
I
am
I
am
pleased
to
support
it
all
and
just
want
to
carefully
make
sure
we
we
monitor
any
potential
issues
as
we
we
see
the
the
as
we
see
this
this
evolving
in
real
time.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
I,
too,
am
prepared
to
support
the
Motions,
plural
and
I
really
appreciate
the
dialogue
we've
had
today.
I
want
to
just
Begin
by
echoing
Mr
defrantis
thanks
for
the
the
many
involved,
certainly
our
staff.
This
has
been
an
interdepartmental
team
in
the
true
sense,
the
word
and
really
appreciate
the
close
analysis.
A
Thank
you
to
our
commissioners.
Mr
Burkey,
for
for
your
tenure.
I
too,
was
cognizant
of
the
sort
of
Full
Circle
nature
of
the
the
very
issues
that
I
know
brought
you
to
the
Housing
Commission
in
the
first
place,
and
this
in
your
final
action
or
recommendation
for
us
is
chair.
A
You
know
just
by
way
of
sort
of
getting
into
my
substantive
comments.
This
is
a
difficult
one
right
regarding
this
turn.
Lane
I
think
it's
interesting
to
me.
A
Mr
Dorsey
YouTube
that
up
well
in
your
comments
earlier
in
our
discussion,
this
sort
of
threshold
Judgment
of
why
this
is
necessary
not
from
the
perspective
of
the
tenant,
but
from
this
perspective
of
the
community
I
I'm,
not
sure
those
have
been
satisfactorily
met,
but
once
that
that
threshold
decision
has
been
made,
I
really
seems
abundantly
clear
to
me
that
everyone
has
done
everything
they
can
to
mitigate
the
potential
impacts.
The
the
level
of
thoughtfulness
is
uncommon.
A
I
think
you
know
sometimes
there's
a
little
bit
of
hand,
waving
away
potential
concerns
or
conflicts
or
gestures
and
aspirations
to
reduce
use.
But
you
know
even,
for
example,
the
detail
of
ensuring
that
residents
access
codes,
don't
work
from
that
entrance.
I
I
do
think.
A
There's
been
a
real
effort
to
to
dramatically
decrease
the
number
of
cars
coming
in
through
that
entrance,
which
is
one
that
will
have
conflict
I,
don't
feel
great
about
it,
but
I
think
this
is
otherwise
a
project
and
a
use
that
is
so
welcome
and
again
the
the
the
mitigation
efforts
have
been
I.
Think
extreme
is
not
not
too
strong
of
a
word
to
use
so
I
I
I
reluctantly
accept
that,
but
but
do
really
respect
a
recommendation
of
the
TC
and
Mr.
A
How
clearly
you
presented
that
to
us
so
onward
to
the
more
positive
elements
here
you
know,
I
think
one
of
the
things
we've
not
talked
about
in
terms
of
Firsts
or
maybe
at
least
early
harbingers.
This
is
sort
of
technically
a
a
an
application
of
our
efforts
office
to
residential
conversion,
maybe
not
conversion
in
the
way
that
we
think
about
it.
A
Other
community's
been
discussing
in
which
we
turn
existing
extant
Office
Buildings
into
residential,
but
this
was
a
project
that
was
entitled
to
be
office
right
and
so
the
flexibility
of
being
able
to
acknowledge
the
the
dramatic
changes
in
that
market
and
look
for
this
opportunity
to
serve
a
really
significant
need
in
our
community
for
more
housing.
I
appreciate
our
staff's
efforts,
planning,
staff's
efforts,
Economic
Development
efforts
and
I
appreciate
the
applicant
coming
forward
to
reconfigure
and
re-envision
what
could
go
on
this
site
in
a
way
that
meets
Community
needs?
A
That's
I
think
a
real,
exciting
piece,
and,
and
frankly
you
know,
we
may
not
see
for
a
variety
of
reasons
if,
if
those
listening
along
at
home
have
not
seen
the
really
thoughtful
analysis
that
recently
came
out
of
our
economic
develop
team
with
regard
to
some
of
the
opportunities
and
also
some
of
the
challenges
in
converting
those
existing
Office
Buildings
to
residential
really
would
commend
that
to
their
attention.
I
think
it's
been
a
really
thoughtful
body
of
work.
I
suspect.
A
Maybe
what
might
be
more
realistic,
at
least
at
scale
for
us
on
Arlington
would
be
the
the
kind
of
conversion
of
entitlements
rather
than
built
buildings.
So
I'm
really
glad
to
see
this
one
and
I
hope
it's
as
successful
a
project
as
I
think
it's
teed
up
to
be
and
and
others
can
can
explore
this
type
of
conversion.
A
You
know
I'm
I
am
excited
about
what
this
means
for
I
think
the
kind
of
retail
heart
of
Boston.
You
know
it
is
a
dynamic
and
changing
time
for
office
Market.
That
is
also
true.
For
for
retail.
We
know
you
know:
Grocers
remain
in
high
demand,
as
Mr
McCauley
was
was
pointing
out
in
a
conversation,
Mr,
Dorsey
and
I
had
with
him
earlier
in
the
week.
It's
no
longer
about
you,
know
grocery
competition,
but
grocery
choice
and
I.
A
Think
that'll,
be
you
know
really
embodied
in
in
This
Heart
of
Boston
area
and
and
bring
a
real
amenity
to
the
it
to
the
whole
Community.
A
You
know,
I
I
do
really
respect
the
the
hesitant
hesitations
raise
by
some
that
you
know
is
this
about
furthering
or
you
know,
preserving,
not
just
units
but
preserving
potentially
income
disparities
between
parts
of
the
county.
I
think
that's
a
fair
enough
thing
to
keep
our
eye
on.
Notwithstanding
this
exciting
idea
of
potentially
adding
more
caps
to
the
Boston
property,
but
I
have
to
say,
you
know,
I
think
the
due
respect
him
is
faculty
colleague.
A
A
That's
a
fantastic
thing:
the
opportunity
to
say
that
we
are
going
to
look
at
homes
that
have
been
you
know,
places
for
for
families
to
to
build
their
Futures
in
Arlington,
and
now
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
commits
to
them.
The
security
of
that
future
is
is
terrific.
That
is
the
the
best
of
what
we
could
hope
for.
A
You
know,
as
I
think
colleagues
have
probably
put
it
better
than
I
could
about
the
idea
of
or
no
actually
I
think
it
was
Mr
matuzik.
You
put
that
really
well
right
in
terms
of
creating
the
opportunity
for
people
who
are
currently
on
the
Pike
to
stay
on
the
Pike,
and
indeed
you
know
as
Mr
Burkey
put
it
helping
folks
stay
where
they
are.
A
That's
the
promise
of
this
tool,
that's
the
promise
of
this
project
and
and
certainly
being
able
to
keep
people
and
upgraded
and
renovated
homes
so
that
we
can
balance
both
the
the
need
for
affordability,
but
also
the
high
standards
we
should
have
for
housing
with
with
dignity
and
quality.
A
I
I
think
is,
is
really
a
a
very
positive
thing
indeed.
So
without
further
Ado
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
a
vote
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,.
J
A
And
the
opposed
that
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
for
spending
the
time
with
us
this
morning
and
for
all
involved
and
congratulations,
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
how
that
goes
with
getting
more
caps
on
site
in
Boston.
All
right.
We
are
going
to
keep
moving.
We
have
two
more
items
before
us
this
afternoon,
but
I
I
don't
think
either
need
to
be
too
lengthy
or
really
final
actions
on
on
either
or
interim
actions,
I
guess
on
items
that
are
very
much
ongoing
for
us.
A
The
first
is
a
good
faith
resolution
to
fund
the
collective
bargaining
agreements
and
or
arbitration
Awards,
resulting
from
the
year
one
of
collective
bargaining.
You
all
will
remember.
Colleagues
I
know
that
last
month
we
heard
a
presentation
from
the
manager,
as
well
as
from
representations
of
our
fire
Union,
our
police,
Union
and
representatives
of
the
Union
representing
surface
labor
and
trades
all
of
those
collective
bargaining
units
on
the
fiscal
impact
analyzes
of
the
tentative
agreements
in
the
case
of
service
labor
and
trades
and
arbitration
Awards.
A
With
regard
to
the
economic
elements
of
the
agreements
with
police
and
fire,
we
then
had
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak
and
have
then
closed
the
public
hearing
I'm
going
to
just
briefly
ask
I
know
we
have
the
manager
here
today
and
representatives
of
service
labor
and
trades
to
just
give
kind
of
Recaps
of
their
presentation
from
last
month.
Before
the
conversation
fully
moves
to
the
County
Board
Mr
manager
will
begin
with
you
on
behalf
of
management.
M
So
without
this
ordinance,
while
I
have
been
manager,
I've
always
sat
with
representatives
of
employees
and
discussed
the
issues
of
mutual
concerns.
So
when
we
met
under
the
formal
provisions
of
the
ordinance,
we
were
sitting
across
the
table
from
our
colleagues
and
we
worked
hard
starting
in
April
to
meet
the
steps
April
of
this
year
to
meet
the
steps
laid
out
in
the
ordinance.
M
These
steps
started
with
certification
of
the
bargaining,
Representatives,
setting
up
ground
rules,
exchanging
and
negotiating
proposals
with
impasse,
deadline
of
October
1st
and
then
arbitration
on
a
series
of
binding
and
non-binding
issues.
Last
month
before
the
board,
pursuant
to
the
ordinance,
the
staff
of
the
Department
of
management,
Finance
presented
a
fiscal
impact
analysis,
and
now
this
month
the
board
is
required
to
pass
resolutions
on
its
intent
to
fund
the
obligations
under
the
tenant
of
agreements.
I
hope.
The
board
will
do
just
this
today.
M
M
I'm
in
the
middle
of
preparing
the
fiscal
2024
budget
and
I
know
that
I
will
have
to
present
proposals
to
you
that,
hopefully
won't
but
very
well
may
cut
filled
positions
in
order
to
close
the
anticipated
gap
between
revenues
and
expenditures.
So,
as
you
consider
action
today,
I
wanted
to
note
the
following.
We
see
the
wages
in
these
agreements
as
a
floor,
not
a
ceiling,
and
we
hope,
if
conditions
allow,
that
we
can
do
more
over
the
next
three
years.
M
M
While
there's
language
in
two
of
the
tentative
agreements
that
lays
out
One
path.
That
needs
to
be
further
discussed
and
refined
by
the
unions
and
those
in
our
Workforce
not
covered
by
the
agreements
and
then
weighed
by
actuaries
and
considered
by
the
board
next
year
as
part
of
the
normal
process
of
amending
our
retirement
ordinance.
M
As
always,
I
look
forward
to
further
conversations
and
I
wanted
to
thank
my
colleagues
in
the
unions
and
also
especially
thank
the
staff
in
my
office,
the
Departments
of
management
and
finance
and
Human
Resources
as
well.
The
county
attorney's
office,
who
worked
at
an
intense
and
exhausting
Pace
over
the
past
few
months.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
Mr
manager
really
appreciate
those
comments.
I
suspect
we
are
going
to
find
ourselves
associating
ourselves
with
them,
so
we
appreciate
it
I
believe
we
are
joined
today
by
Mr
Rodriguez
on
behalf
of
service
labor
and
trades.
Were
there
any
other
comments
you
wanted
to
make
to
recap
or
refresh
us
from
last
month
before
we
begin
our
deliberation.
AD
Thank
you
for
rehashing
some
of
the
details
that
have
been
forgotten
that
so
much
has
happened
in
the
last
18
months.
I'm
going
to
beat
a
dead
horse
here
with
some
of
these
little
details
are.
Are
we
take
for
granted
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
I
flip
over
a
couple
of
stones?
AD
As
you
know,
me,
James,
Rodriguez,
I
am
no
longer
president,
but
I
am
acting.
I
took
this
on
and
I'm
going
to
see.
As
far
as
I
can
I'm
grateful
to
speak
to
you
regarding
the
proposed
compensation,
only
package
for
the
Moa
that
we
hammered
out
over
the
summer,
County
managers,
the
legal
staff
and
our
Representatives
and
Anthony
just
tell
you
it
was.
It
was
interesting.
It
was
a
cop
being
never
having
a
contract
in
Virginia.
This
is
new
new
territory
and
I
believe
we
have
the
opportunity
to
create
a
unique
situation.
AD
This
is
this
is
a
clean
sheet
of
paper,
but
the
examples
of
the
services
we
provide
low
hanging
fruit
is
a
clean
drinking
water
that
we
all
take
for
granted.
This
is
provided
by
our
highly
skilled
Water.
Maintenance
Crews
will
maintain
our
unique
system
and
anyone
who's
ever
worked
in
Arlington
County
will
tell
you.
Our
system
is
definitely
unique
as
part
of
the
water
crew
they're
called
upon
to
make,
after
our
emergency
repairs,
often
in
harsh
elements
and
almost
always
an
extremely
hazardous
condition.
There
are
no
easy
water
main
brake
repairs.
AD
AD
AD
AD
Our
brother
in
the
public
safety
sector.
Well
articulated
this
point
in
our
last
meeting
when
he
stated
that
the
4.5
percent
proposal
is
effectively
a
loss
for
our
hard-working
members,
considering
the
current
rate
of
inflation
is
hovering
around
10
percent,
depending
on
where
you
get
your
information,
I
actually
believe
it's
greater
than
that.
AD
Our
Workforce
deserves
our
complete
and
full
attention
to
the
details
of
creating
a
workable
agreement
in
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
is
also
crucial.
That
I
use
this
time
to
express
our
opposition
to
the
potential
cuts
and
the
general
services
and
reducing
Workforce
that
was
mentioned
in
last
night.
Last
month's
meetings
is
my
firm
belief
that
this
can
be
easily
avoided
by
being
more
creative
and
flexible
and
forming
disagreement.
AD
AD
Let's
make
this
a
win
for
the
county,
a
win
for
the
employees
and
it
went
for
the
most
importantly,
the
citizens
we
all
serve.
We
and
I.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
work
together
on
this
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
to
further
improve
Arlington,
County
Services.
Thank
you
and
enjoy
the
holiday
season.
A
We
are
not
joined
Again
by
representatives
of
police
and
fire,
but
they
have
been
in
close
coordination
with
County
board
members,
and
we
do
anticipate
that
that
collaboration
will
indeed
continue,
as
the
manager
alluded
I'm
going
to
go
to
Mr
Dorsey
for
a
motion
to
frame
the
conversation
before
we
do
that
I
just
want
to
emphasize
what
is
before
us
as
the
board
today.
A
This
is
a
I
think
an
interesting
time
for
all
of
us
with
this
first
implementation
of
collect
marketing,
because
it
requires
us
to
think
perhaps
differently
about
our
own
government's
role
than
we
generally
do
right.
We
are
not
designing
public
policy,
for
example,
we
are
not
even
necessarily
speaking
giving
input
or
specific
Direction
on
the
budget.
A
We
are
deciding
in
our
role
as
the
County
Board,
which
is
relatively
minimal
and
by
Design
what
we
will
do
with
the
consequences
of
conclusions
that
have
either
been
collectively
bargained
or
are
the
result
of
an
arbitrated
outcome,
so
I
think
that's
really
important.
We
will,
of
course,
continue
to
be
involved
in
relations
between
manager,
the
manager
and
employees
on
an
informal
basis.
A
How
could
we
not
be
it's
so
important
to
the
functioning
of
the
Enterprise
and
the
delivery
of
services
to
Arlington
County
Employees,
but
our
own
role,
vis-a-vis,
the
actual
collective
bargaining
agreements
or
the
arbitrated
outcome
is
relatively
minimal.
Do
we
find
it
acceptable,
and
do
we
make
a
good
faith
effort
commitment
that
we
will
do
our
best
to
fund
the
the
economic
impacts
of
those
proposals
which
were
summarized
in
much
greater
detail
last
month?
So
I
think
we
can
have
some
conversation.
I
suspect
there
may
be
an
appetite
for
some
conversation
about
things.
A
You
know
the
articles,
for
example
that
were
either
subject
to
agreement
or
subject
to
arbitration,
but
it
is
important
once
again
to
note
you
know
that
that
is
not
subject
to
our
Vote
or
to
policy
design
by
the
board
today,
because
of
the
structure
of
this
brand
new
way
of
bringing
representatives
of
Labor
and
management
together
to
determine
A
Way
Forward
on
a
variety
of
different
conditions
of
employment.
All
right
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
to
Mr
Dorsey
for
a
motion,
perhaps
on
all
three
to
go
ahead
and
get
us
started.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
would
like
to
move
that
the
County
Board
adopt
resolution
34A,
which
concerns
the
tentative
collective
bargaining
agreement
with
the
American
Federation
of
State
County
Municipal
Employees,
District,
Council
20
local
3001
I
would
like
to
move.
We
adopt
the
resolution
34b,
which
concerns
the
tentative
collective
bargaining
agreement
with
the
International
Association
of
firefighters,
local
2800
and
item
34C
concerning
the
technical,
the
tentative
collective
bargaining
agreement
with
the
Arlington
Coalition
of
police.
I
I
will
speak
to
it
very
briefly.
You
outline
in
the
framing
what
this
action
actually
is.
I,
just
like
to
you
know,
also
go
back
to
the
the
broader
view.
I
think
this
is
ultimately
going
to
be
something
that
helps
Arlington
operate
much
more
efficiently
in
a
way
that
satisfies
all
who
are
part
of
our
Workforce.
As
we
mature
collective
bargaining
in
the
county
I'm
sure
year,
one
came
with
it
a
lot
of
issues
that
will
be
smoothed
out
over
time
that
are
always
apparent.
I
I
feel
very
strongly
about
that.
But
I
also
feel
very
strongly
that
as
circumstances
do
change,
we
have
an
obligation
and
responsibility
that
has
been
articulated,
as
shared
by
the
manager,
to
look
at
this
as
a
floor
and
to
look
at
real
term
real
real
life
circumstances
to
determine
whether
or
not
there
is
more
that
we
can
do
so.
With
that
I'm
happy
to
move
these
items
and
looking
forward
to
the
next
steps.
K
Garvey
yeah.
Thank
you
I'm
pleased
to
obviously
support
the
motion.
You
know
I
really
appreciated
Mr
Rodriguez's
comments.
I
was
thinking
we
are
so
lucky
here
in
Arlington.
Everything
functions
really
well,
and
so
the
bad
side
is
that
you
get
taken
for
granted.
I
mean
people
just
assume
they're.
Of
course,
they're
going
to
turn
on
the
tap
and
the
water
is
going
to
be
drinkable
and
safe
and
they're
they're.
K
You
know
it's
a
reasonable
assumption
that
everything
else
is
going
to
work,
also
that
the
agreements
will
work
out
and
there's
an
incredible
amount
of
staff
work
that
went
into
this
I
mean
hours
and
hours
and
hours
and
hours,
and
nobody
much
sees
it.
Arlington
is
the
proverbial.
You
know
Swan
gliding
across
the
pond
and
underneath
the
feet
are
working
like
crazy.
K
So
just
a
big
thank
you
to
everybody.
I
do
appreciate
the
managers.
You
know
comments
that
the
wages
are
a
floor.
The
comments
on
inflation
are
very
well
taken
and
I
think
it's
important.
We
kind
of
keep
reminding
our
the
people
we
serve
about
this
because
again,
there's
there's
kind
of
an
assumption.
People
in
the
habit
of
getting
wonderful
services
and
and
not
having
to
worry
so
much
about
how
we
pay
for
them.
K
It
comes
up
in
the
tax
season
every
year,
but
this
year
may
be
different
because
nobody's
dealt
with
inflation
for
a
very
long
time,
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
work
that
out,
I'm
sure
we
will
I
doubt
it
will
be
easy,
but
it's
absolutely
crucial.
We
do
to
keep
this
the
community.
We
love
pleased
also
that
the
the
manager
mentioned
that
the
you
know
we're
going
to
work
on
moving
from
open
ranges
to
step
system,
I
think
that's
a
back
again
thing:
I!
K
Think
we've
been
there
before
and
also
more
discussions
on
retirement.
So
you
know
we're
approving
this
I
and
I
think
as
a
good
faith
effort
with
collective
bargaining.
That's
something
we
need
to
do.
That's
why
we
do
the
bargaining,
so
it
would
be
really
poor
form
to
have
people
go
through
all
this
effort
and
say:
well,
we
didn't
really
mean
it.
I
can't
do
that,
but
so
accept
it
and
then
of
course,
they're
going
to
be
it's
new
there'll,
be
some
tweaking
there'll,
be
some
talking.
K
All
I
think
in
good
faith,
but
I'm
very
pleased
to
support
this
and
it's
a
huge
step
forward
on
an
effort.
That's
not
completed
yet.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
will
vote
in
favor
of
this
Mr
Rodriguez.
You
took
me
back
to
nearly
20
years
ago,
when
I
was
in
a
Water
Treatment
Facility
in
Iowa,
with
a
with
John
Kerry
and
I,
never
forgot
those
20
minutes
because
of
the
value
and
that
how
critical
it
is
to
things
we
take
for
granted
and
so
many
evenings
when
it's
cold,
we
have
running
water
and
we
have
functioning
homes
because
of
the
work
that
service,
labor
and
trades
does
so.
I
really
appreciate
your
being
here
and
your
your
comments.
L
I
also
do
support
continued
dialogue
between
our
employees
and
the
county
manager,
as
the
chair
mentioned,
I
believe.
The
agreements
that
reach
that
have
been
reached
should
remain
in
effect
and
I
certainly
support.
L
This
is
a
floor
and
not
a
ceiling
with
respect
to
salaries
over
the
coming
months
and
years
to
be
clear,
I
agree
with
the
chair
and
the
direction
and
the
thought
with
respect
to
the
manager
and
don't
support
reopening
the
decisions
that
have
been
made
via
arbitration,
but
I
do
think
continue.
Dialogue
is
very
important.
L
Solid
compression
is
an
issue
we
will
need
to
address
over
the
coming
year
and
years.
I'm
hoping
I
am
for
sure,
open
to
moving
towards
a
system
of
compensation
that
ensures
employees
are
compensated
for
their
experience,
moving
from
towards
a
step
and
grade
system,
I.
Also,
of
course,
I'm
very
pleased
that
all
of
our
employees
show
professionalism.
Quality
service
is
at
the
heart
of
what
each
of
the
three
unions
do
so
in
the
short
term,
I'm
hopeful.
L
This
is
a
tight
budget
year
and
if
there
is
additional
funding
that
can
fairly
address
compression
I
would
be
hopeful
that
we
could
do
this.
I
think
the
big
broad
points
that
collective
bargaining
is
not
a
silver
bullet
or
a
quick
means
for
addressing
all
of
our
problems
in
this
inflationary
environment
need
to
be
it's
good,
that
the
manager
mentioned
them
again,
but
I
think
we
over
the
past
18
months
or
and
particularly
in
the
last
nine
months.
We've
got
a
better
start
on
many
issues
than
if
it
had
not
existed.
L
Even
if
I
know
as
I
know,
it
has
not
been
easy
by
any
means.
It's
been
a
lot
of
time,
so
I
want
to
keep
working
on.
This
I
do
think
that
there's
a
a
role
for
sure
the
manager
and
the
unions
and
the
board
also
has
a
role
to
prioritize,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
that
and
that's
very
important
to
me
thanks
so
much
thank.
A
J
Karen
Thomas,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
in
the
same
aligning
myself
with
Mr
ferrandi
and
Miss
Garvey,
and
you
I
and
and
storcy
I
I
really
appreciate
your
your
testimony
today
on
behalf
of
asthma
and
all
the
workers,
you
know
it's
a
good
thing:
when
a
community
takes
these
basic
services
or
then
we
have
a
feeling
that
these
basic
services
are
taken
for
granted.
That
means
that
they
are
provided
in
an
excellent
way.
What
we
will
never
be
doing
here,
at
least
never
is
to
take
our
employees
for
granted.
J
I
do
believe
that
we
understand
very
well
what
it
takes
and
we
are,
and
you
know
I
and
you
know
I
receive
Arlington
alerts.
I
know
that
you
are
out.
I
know
that
you're
out
with
every
weather
any
time
of
the
day,
any
any
hour
and
Mr
Rodriguez
I,
also
take
your
your
hint
about
the
cost
of
external
Contracting
Etc
very
seriously.
J
I've
seen
that
myself,
you
know
with
several
projects
where
you
know,
for
example,
with
the
the
adult
and
neighborhood
conservation
program,
has
had
some
some
projects
that
were
feasible
to
do
with
the
contractor
and
all
of
a
sudden
you
jumped
in,
and
it
was
delivered
for,
better,
cheaper
and
so
I
I.
We
we
really
take
that
into
account
now
back
to
the
to
the
resolution.
I
I
aligned
myself
completely
with
with
my
colleagues
here.
J
It
is
a
very
good
moment
to
to
say:
yes,
it's
not
it's
not
appropriate
for
us
to
reopen
the
arbitration
result,
but
the
entire
discussion
over
18
months
has
also
sharpened
our
eye
for
many
other
things.
So,
for
example,
we
we
focused
and
I
think
we
will
continue
to
focus
on.
J
What's
the
appropriate
level
of
compensation,
I
I
agree
with
Mr
Swartz
and
on
that
it's
the
floor
and
not
the
ceiling,
and
we
will
balance
that
with
the
the
general
challenges
that
we
see
ahead
of
Mr
deferandi
mentioned,
it
is
going
to
be
a
tight
budget
here.
J
Secondly,
I
do
see
a
lot
of
worth
in
and
I
found
it
very
valuable
to
to
Think
Through
the
desired
now
transition
to
step
10
steps
to
step
in
grade
to
compensation
system
that
includes
step
and
grade,
especially
for
our
Uniformed,
Services
and
I.
Do
think
that
you
know
thinking
about
our
retirement
structure.
J
Etc
is
really
worth
and
for
me,
what
this
means
is
try
to
preserve
and
improve
all
all
Every
Every
and
every
single
step
I
realized
that
our
employees
is
the
biggest
most
valuable,
most
critical
assets
that
we
have.
This
is
what
Arlington
County
is
our
our
Workforce.
So
with
that
I
will
support
this
resolution.
We
will
support
the
motion
and
I
will
be
a
careful
companion
of
the
discussions
to
follow.
After
that.
A
Thank
you,
so
much
I'll
share
just
a
couple
thoughts
from
my
own
part
and
then
give
it
back
to
Mr
Dorsey
for
the
last
word.
I
just
really
want
to
Echo
my
colleagues
comments
of
appreciation,
particularly
the
service
labor,
trades
leadership,
and
your
colleagues
that
you
represent
here
and
all
of
our
Arlington
County
Employees
for
doing
this
important
work.
We
are,
of
course,
internationally
engaged
in
this
really
interesting
dialogue.
A
It
feels
like
sort
of
a
seismic
moment
about
the
future
of
of
collective
organizing,
and
you
know
in
context
of
perhaps
a
large
retail
coffee
purveyor.
For
example,
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation,
you
know
to
me.
Collective
bargaining
is
about
not
necessarily
you
know,
fair
treatment
of,
or
valuation
of
workers,
but
recogn
that
recognizing
their
professionalism
means
sharing
the
power
to
shape
a
place
of
employment
and-
and
it's
not
simply
about
you-
know
the
the
relative
beneficence
of
policies
or
what
even
we
think
is
best
right.
A
It
is
about
sharing
the
power
with
the
employees
to
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
place
of
employment
what
those
conditions
and
compensation
might
look
like
and
and
I
I
say
that,
because
I've
been
thinking
about
it,
a
great
deal,
you
know
no,
for
my
part,
I
have
some
policy
perspectives,
for
example
on
step
in
grade
system.
A
It
is
not
my
preference
I've
long
appreciated
that
Arlington
has
a
different
form
of
compensation.
I
am
aware,
however,
that
the
transition
to
a
step
and
grade
system
has
emerged
as
the
top
priority,
particularly
for
Public,
Safety
employees
and
I
think
again,
recognizing
the
proof
of
their
professionalism
and
and
fully
sharing
power
in
a
collective
bargaining
environment.
You
know
means
them
that
I
find
myself.
A
You
know
joining
my
colleagues
and
encouraging
the
manager
and
appreciating
the
manager's
willingness
to
continue
to
figure
out
what
the
transition
of
a
step
and
grade
system
in
this
year
looks
like
within
the
awarded
within
the
arbitration
award
and
I'm
very
glad
to
know
that
that
will
continue.
I
appreciate
the
the
effort
on
the
part
of
representatives
from
police
fire,
the
manager's
Office
county
attorney's
office,
certainly
HR
and
others
to
get
there
and
and
I
would.
A
Similarly,
you
know
kind
of
make
that
observation
about
having
a
policy
preference
and
yet
not
substituting
that
judgment.
When
it
comes
to
retirement
benefits,
you
know,
I
am
a
strong
proponent.
The
reason
the
manager
is
considering
a
potential
look
or
work
group
at
maybe
transitioning
from
a
defined
benefit
system
to
a
defined
contribution
system
in
which
those
elements
of
compensation
can
be
taken
in
the
form
of
cash
or
other
benefits.
I
think
that's
really
important,
I
think.
A
If
we
are
going
to
become
a
competitive
workplace,
we
need
to
acknowledge
that
that
the
the
the
ways
in
which
employees,
especially
Rising
generations
of
employees,
value
their
benefits
that
that
package
or
basket
of
benefits
is
going
to
change
and
we
need
to
be
prepared
to
evolve,
and
so
that
said,
I
think
the
right
way
to
proceed
is
with
the
work
Group,
which
I
know
is
the
manager's
intent
and
that
there
is
going
to
there
is
some.
A
You
know
conversation
about
the
the
article
that
was
handed
down
by
the
the
award
made
by
the
arbitrator,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
manager's
comments
today
and
I
think
they
are
the
right
ones
that
any
step
to
transition
to
a
different
retirement
system,
a
different
basket
of
benefits
so
to
speak,
would
be
done
with
a
work
group
of
employees
and
would
require
action
from
this
board
in
amending
our
retirement
code.
So
you
know
these
are
I,
think
really
important
issues
it
is.
A
It
is
right
and
appropriate
that
we
have
policy
perspectives,
but
also
in
this
new
collective
bargaining
setting.
The
point
is
not
substituting
our
judgment
about
what
works
best
or
what
makes
the
most
competitive
Workforce,
but
rather
relying
on
the
the
Judgment
of
our
employees
in
the
formal
framework
of
negotiation,
with
management
to
determine
how
we
make
Arlington
a
competitive,
Workforce
and
a
competitive
employer
so
that
we
can
retain
those
individuals
who
are
offering
such
a
high
level
of
service
to
our
Arlington
Community.
K
A
quick
follow-up
comment,
because
I
I
wanted
to
thank
Mr
Rodriguez
for
his
invitation
to
come
and
visit
the
water
treatment
plant
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
I've
done
it
before,
but
it's
been
a
while
and
just
like
we
do
ride
alongs
with
our
police.
I
would
love
to
come
and
see
it.
There's
actually
right.
Now
some
road
work
going
on
in
farlington.
That
is
really
impressive.
I
mean
I,
find
driving
around
so
I
can
kind
of
see
what's
happening
there,
but
we
don't
see
inside
the
water
treatment
plant.
K
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
a
couple
things
the
surface,
philosophical
and
then
one
technical
you
know
I
do
also
never
want
to
lose
the
opportunity
to
just
sort
of
put
this
in
the
big
picture
of
why
this
is
important,
at
least.
To
my
mind,
you
know
the
contractual
ability
for
workers
to
have
a
sense
of
understanding.
I
The
trajectory
of
their
term
of
employment
for
a
number
of
years
is
incredibly
important
in
a
world
where
employers
exercise
a
great
deal
of
power,
even
beneficent
ones
like
hopefully
us
over
employees,
and
that
lack
that
that
power
can
result
in
exploitation,
either
intentional
or
or
by
ignorance
and
way
of
leveling.
That
playing
field
comes
from
the
ability
to
collectively
bargain
and
negotiate
contracts
and
then
there's
also
a
practical
effect
of
of
Enterprise
efficiency
that
is
supported.
You
know
when
you
are
incredibly
employee.
Reliant
as
we
are
as
a
community.
I
Employers
can
have
blind
spots
if
they
are
not
regularly
engaged
in
discussing
not
only
the
terms
of
employment
but
operational
matters
with
those
employees.
So
there
is
a
path
to
improved
Enterprise
outcomes
that
comes
from
this
regime.
So
with
that
as
being
important,
I
want
to
just
speak
to
what
you
raised:
Miss
Crystal,
the
issue
of
retirement
benefits
which
has
come
up,
and
you
know
Mr
Schwartz,
I
appreciate
your
perspective
and
I
just
want
to
publicly
State
my
support
for
engaging
in
this
issue.
I
So
while
that
provides
perhaps
a
certain
path,
the
expectation
that
I
have
is
that
this
is
an
idea
that
is
merely
that
and
is
subject
to
an
intense
amount
of
analysis
and
policy
development,
because,
in
addition
to
determining
whether
it
makes
Actuarial
sense,
what
are
the
potential
impacts?
We
also
have
to
consider
whether
or
not
it
would
have
differing
impacts
on
different
classes
of
employees
within
the
Enterprise.
So
it's
not
just
simply.
You
come
up
with
something
and
treat
all
employees
exactly
the
same.
While
that
may
be
quote
fair.
I
That
is
not
necessarily
Equitable,
so
I
hope
that
we
aspire
to
the
the
highest
level
of
looking
at
this
issue
and
then
the
last
thing
is
really
quite
easy.
I,
don't
think
this
requires
a
change
in
the
motion
unless
our
attorney
says
otherwise,
but
in
resolution
34A
as
it
relates
to
afscme.
There
are
a
couple
of
occasions
specifically
in
in
the
third
and
fourth
recitals,
where
the
acronym
is
incorrectly
input,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
are
corrected
in
the
final
versions
of
this
resolution.
A
Thanks
so
much
all
right,
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
a
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opponents,
all
right
that
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
again,
Mr
Rodriguez
and
colleagues,
the
manager
and
for
all
of
the
the
many
staff
involved
in
getting
us
to
this
day.
All
right,
Madam
clerk
I
believe
we
have
one
other
item
for
our
attention
this
afternoon.
If
you
could
call
it
please.
B
That
is
correct.
We
have
item
35,
which
is
the
fiscal
year,
2024
budget
guidance
to
the
manager.
A
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
This
is
an
item
solely
within
the
board
conversation
last
month.
Of
course,
the
manager
gave
us
a
preview
of
the
fiscal
2024
proposed
budget
Outlook,
which
was
grim,
and
we
now
have
I
have
brought
before
us
proposed
guidance
to
the
manager
as
he
develops
that
proposed
budget.
It's
a
way
for
us
to
put
our
fingerprints
on
the
work
that
he
will
be
doing
in
the
coming
months
ahead
of
giving
us
his
recommendations
in
February.
A
I
am
going
to
move
the
following
direction
to
the
county
manager
if
I
have
a
second,
so
second
number
Mr,
defranti
I
will
go
ahead
by
way
of
speaking
to
it
to
just
walk
through
some
of
what's
here,
reflecting
the
the
tone
of
the
presentation
we
received
about
the
revenue
Outlook.
This
is
a
rather
sober
set
of
comments
and
guidance
to
him.
A
Certainly
the
the
expectations
that
we
all
have
that
are
true
year
in
and
year
out,
we
expect
certainly
a
balanced
budget.
We
expect
it
to
be
consistent
with
our
long-run
financial
sustainability
and
preserve
our
AAA
Bond
ratings,
to
be
consistent
with
our
Equity
resolution
and
reflect
in
specific
ways
on
the
application
of
the
equity
lens
and
to
fulfill
all
of
our
debt
lease
and
other
contractual
commitments.
A
We
are
I'm
proposing
that
we
codify
here.
Our
understanding
that
currently
currently
estimated
budget
Gap
is
around
35
million,
that
is
inclusive
of
the
salary
increases.
A
We
just
agreed
to
make
a
good
faith
effort
to
fund,
and
so
recognizing
that
a
few
things
that
we
would
like
the
manager
to
bring
forward
for
us
recognizing
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
need
to
consider,
as
there
should
be
in
every
year,
but
a
particular
budgetary
urgency,
I
guess
of
service
and
program
efficiencies,
so
opportunities
to
reduce
Service
delivery
where
appropriate
and
eliminate
programmatic
activities.
That
may
no
longer
be
priorities.
A
You
know
that
may
have
served
us
well
in
the
past,
but
are
not
necessarily
aligned
with
what
we
have
prioritized.
Of
course,
when
we
prioritize
everything
that
means
we
prioritize
nothing,
and
so
a
difficult
Revenue
picture
is
an
opportunity
to
reflect
that
programmatic
reflect
on
programmatic
opportunities.
That
may
not
again
be
serving
those
priorities,
a
recognition
in
this
direction
that
that
there
may
be
continued
Reliance
on
one-time
funding.
We've
had
a
rocky
few
years,
navigating
through
the
pandemic.
A
A
A
So
long
is
there
a
is
a
prudent
plan
to
phase
it
out
over
the
following
fiscal
years:
full
funding
of
the
tentative
collective
bargaining
agreements
per
the
action
we
just
took
and
recommendations
about
funding
options
for
our
housing
priorities,
so
obviously
eviction
prevention
and
housing
grants
are
both
areas
that
have
skyrocketed
in
terms
of
need
and
therefore
funding
levels.
A
I
think
this
is
speaking
of
priorities
really
important
to
us
to
keep
our
neighbors
housed,
but
we
also
expect,
following
some
analysis,
that's
been
underway
with
regard
to
housing
grants
which
we
discussed
with
DHS
just
a
couple
months
ago
here
in
this
room,
some
some
understanding
about
the
the
policy
options
that
would
be
implemented
in
the
near
term
and
excuse
me
eviction
prevention
that
would
be
implemented
in
the
near
term.
A
With
long
run,
changes
to
housing
grants
that
could
be
implemented
in
fiscal
2025
as
a
way
of
you
know,
maintaining
those
commitments
and
prioritization
also
being
financially
sustainable,
fiscally
sustainable
in
the
long
run.
This
direction
actually
asks
the
manager
to
please
maintain
the
ongoing
level
of
funding
for
ahif
I
do
think
a
bright
spot
in
the
long
run.
Sustainability
of
our
affordable
housing
programs
has
been
the
development
of
quite
a
few
different
creative
funding
tools
outside
of
the
AF.
A
We,
as
talked
about
this
morning,
have
realized
a
potential
project
for
realization
of
as
many
as
655
calves,
not
through
ahif,
but
rather
through
the
the
contribution
of
land.
We
know
as
well
that
we
have
exercised
other
Financial
tools
like
line
of
credit
and
others
to
acquire
Barcroft
and
so
I
think.
The
idea
of
ongoing
level
funding
for
ahif,
while
still
showing
an
increasing
level
of
commitment
to
affordable
housing
overall,
is
not
only
possible,
but
should
be
our
Direction.
A
The
revenue
share
consistent
with
our
long
time
practice
with
our
colleagues
in
the
public
schools.
So
that
is
a
summary
of
the
guidance
here
regarding
Direction
about
dollars
and
cents
and
how
those
should
be
spent.
We
know,
of
course,
the
budget
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
reflect
on
major
programmatic
updates,
and
so
I
am
proposing
that
we
give
him
guidance
to
do
the
following
to
give
us
an
update
on
these
stormwater
utility
fee
proposal
that
would
be
adopted
in
the
fiscal
24
budget,
but
implemented
in
fiscal
2025.
A
Certainly
wanting
a
an
update
now
that
we've
come
through,
we
hope
the
year
one
of
collective
bargaining.
What
continued
support
and
expansion
to
other
employee
groups
of
collective
bargaining
might
need
again.
Programmatic
updates
on
that
continued
investment
in
Mental,
Health
Services.
A
We
recognize
in
particular
that
Recruitment
and
Retention
of
Professionals
in
this
field
is,
is
a
major
Challenge
and
so
wanting
some
programmatic
updates
on
thinking
about
how
compensation
or
other
tools
can
help
us
meet
that
challenge
continued
investment
in
environmental
priorities,
as
well
as
priorities
like
the
implementation,
the
police,
black
practices,
group
recommendation
and
Equity
resolution
I
mentioned
kind
of
again
those
kind
of
dollars
and
sense
guidance
around
the
future
of
our
housing
programs.
A
At
my
colleague's
suggestion,
I've
also
included
that
here
as
part
of
a
request
for
programmatic
updates
in
the
long
run,
sustainability
of
our
housing
aid
programs
and
then
finally,
commercial
resiliency.
This
is
incredibly
important
because
this
is
what
drives
a
revenue
picture
and
so
understanding
the
status
of
and
future
efforts
regarding,
the
actionable
strategies
around
economic
development
in
context,
City,
deeply
unstable
office
market
and
high
office
vacancy
rate
and
then,
finally,
to
a
recommendation
that
the
manager
give
us
some
insight
into
a
six-year
budget
forecast.
A
So
those
are
really
our
long
run,
train
Trends,
commercial,
real
estate,
values
again,
but
also
things
like
Walmart
as
operating
needs,
which
we
know
it
is
a
time
of
transition
there
as
well
and
any
other
Trends
in
known
expenses,
whether
that
might
be
things
like,
for
example,
retirement
or
other
wages
and
benefits
and
any
other
major
areas
that
may
be
affecting
the
the
ebb
and
flow
of
revenues
and
expenses,
not
just
for
fiscal
2024,
but
for
the
the
the
the
years
to
follow.
A
So
that
is
the
guidance
that
is
before
us
for
consideration.
I'm,
going
to
now
open
the
floor
for
questions
and
comments,
Mr
defranti.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
want
to
stay
fairly
high
level
and
wanted
to
I.
Don't
know
if
this
question
is
maybe
for
the
manager,
it
could
be
for
you,
as
you
put
this
together.
L
I
have
a
sense,
but
by
comparison
with
last
year,
there's
you
know
plenty
of
commentators
love
to
speculate,
that
you
know
budgets
always
look
difficult
at
one
part
of
the
year
and
easy
at
other
part
of
the
parts
of
the
year,
but
I
do
feel
as
though
the
process
there's
you
know,
you've
updated
us
at
separate
times
not
on
the
dice,
but
we're
in
a
you
know.
You
describe
you
use
the
word
grim,
and
this
is
so
I
wondered
if
you
could.
L
The
35
million
is
that
more
or
less
than
last
year,
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
more
as
a
percentage.
Or
could
you
give
any
sense
as
you're
developing
the
budget?
I
know
you've
kind
of
engaged,
with
our
your
executive
leadership,
team
and
sort
of
said.
This
is
not
easy
and
you
did
you
know
contextualize
the
possibility
you
know
trying
to
avoid
for
sure
you
know
cuts
to
filled
positions,
but
wanting
to
be
serious
about
where
we
are
so
I.
L
Think
that's
for
the
for
you
as
manager,
and
just
if
you
could,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
off
the
top
the
percentage
that
35
million
is
of
our
sort
of
full
actual
budget,
but
that's
the
sort
of
big
picture
if
you
could
provide
a
little
context
on
this
year
as
opposed
to
last
year,
and
what
leads
you
to
leads
our
chair
to
say
this
is
grim
from
your
perspective.
M
M
Why
can't
we
fill
those
positions
for
our
police
or
for
mental
health?
We
have
a
number
of
vacant
positions,
and
so,
as
I've
been
having
conversations
and
I,
we
do
it.
We've
been
doing
it
the
last
few
weeks
and
we'll
do
it
into
January.
It's
been
very
tough.
I've
had
to
employ
a
lot
of,
say,
persuasive
tactics
with
department
heads
to
come
up
with
other
ideas,
so
it
is
more
of
a
challenge,
and
so
I
I
think
that
I
also
appreciate,
in
the
guidance
the
opportunity
which
is
as
I
characterized
it
a
budget
misdemeanor.
M
We
haven't
quite
committed
a
budget
felony,
yet
on
relying
on
one-time
money
to
smooth
it
and
we
had
for
the
last
two
years.
The
federal
government
really
was
a
Lifeline
for
us
and
assisting
with
that
so
Mr
defrani,
you
sort
of
are
now
starting
to
make
me
feel
more
depressed.
But
thank
you
very
much.
I'm.
L
Not
trying
to
I
want
to
yield,
but
I
did
have
one
one
question
just
for
recollection
purposes:
I
mean
part
of
why
I
asked
is
we
just
spent
time
on
on
collective
bargaining
and
we
want
to
invest
there,
but
we
also
face
a
difficult
budget
environment.
I
thought
it
was
worth
describing
that
a
little
bit
I
think
the
one-time
funding.
The
two-year
time
frame
that
you
put
in
Madam
chair
is
pretty
consistent
with
my
recollection
of
where
we
had
been.
M
Yes,
we
have
been,
we
were
moving.
We
were
at
about
16
million
dollars.
Two
years
two
years
ago,
we've
been
trying
to
cut
that
in
half.
We
can
continue
to
make
progress
on
that
and
I
think
that
there
are
times,
especially
now
when
we
are,
we
haven't
really
even
talked
about
the
pandemic
anymore,
but
we're
still
transitioning.
We
don't
know
where
we're
transitioning
to,
but
those
are
the
times
I
think
where
it's
appropriate
to
rely
on
one-time
funds,
sometimes
to
work
your
way
through
some
of
those
difficulties.
M
A
Thank
you
for
those
good
questions:
Mr
Karen,
Thomas
and
then
Mr
Rossi.
J
C
J
But
anyway,
so
my
my
question
to
you
is:
to
which
extent
do
you
feel
that
the
news
in
January
about
you
know
the
residential
and
especially
the
commercial
Market
will
be
you
know?
Could
we
expect
that
they're
slightly
better
or
is
there
a
serious
risk
that
they're
not
slightly
better.
M
At
this
point
and
I,
it's
not
like
I'm
calling
our
department
of
real
estate
assessments
every
hour
to
get
an
update
only
every
day,
I
think
that
we're
we're
at
the
it's
not
going
to
get
worse.
Let
me
put
it
that
way.
We
could
see
a
small
Improvement,
but
I
don't
want
people
to
you
know.
We
often
you
know
are
accused
of
saying
the
sky
is
falling
and
then
somehow
things
get
better.
Things
might
be
a
little
bit
better.
We'll
have
to
see,
and
our
real
estate
assessment
office
is
finishing
up.
M
They've
finished
all
their
work
on
the
residential
assessments
and
we
have
a
pretty
strong
sense
of
where
it
is
so
I'm
trying
to
temper
expectations
there
a
little
bit
in
commercial
they're
finishing
up,
and
we
will
have
those
details
finalized
in
the
next
week
to
10
days,
and
we
will
be
providing
that
information
more
broadly
at
the
beginning
of
January
and
everybody
will
get
their
notices
over
usually
over
the
Martin
Luther
King
weekend.
We
send
out
all
those
notices
in
less
than
a
month
from
now.
People
will
have
all
that
information.
J
Yeah
I
was
specifically
asking
a
main
thinking
about
the
last
point:
the
point
H,
the
commercial
resiliency
and
the
the
need
of
direct
investment,
which
you
know
more
more
most
likely
is
translated
into
dollars
that
need
to
be
committed,
including
staff
dollars,
so
in
Economic
Development.
This
is
why
I'm
asking
right
what
how
we
have
seen
this
challenge
coming
and
evolving
over
time.
You
have
responded,
I,
believe
the
board
has
responded,
but
I
I
feel
that
the
text
that
the
chair
has
provided
just
calls
for
a
new
level
of
investment.
J
M
Focusing
on
that
I
think
is
incredibly
important.
It's
a
multi-year
process.
A
lot
of
our
commercial
spaces
are
still
under
old
lease
terms
that
were
entered
into
5
or
10
or
15
or
20
year
leases,
and
there
has
been,
and
the
board
put
it
in
here-
a
paradigm
shift
and
the
way
the
commercial
Market
it's
working
as
leases
expire.
M
We
have
to
go
it's
it's
a
fever
that
we
need
to
work
our
way
through
over
a
three
or
four
year
period
and
again,
I
wanted
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
the
board,
we're
taking
steps
to
adjust
the
kinds
of
uses
that
could
go
into
our
commercial
spaces,
but
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
to
reach.
Hopefully,
a
good
Landing
point.
I
Thank
you,
Madam
chair,
Mr
Schwartz,
as
you
go
throughout
doing
this
I'm,
going
to
offer
an
ammunition
that
I'm
not
suggesting
as
a
part
of
your
thinking,
I
just
want
to
publicly
put
it
out
there
in
the
hopes
that
you're
thinking
never
get
infected
by
this.
This
scenario,
so
you
know
a
lot
of
municipalities
when
they
try
to
deal
with
circumstances
such
as
ours
where
the
revenue
is
baked
in
and
the
budget
is
the
only
place
where
they
can
bring
things
into
balance.
I
They
show
ideas
like
across
the
board,
Cuts
or
indiscriminate,
proportional
reductions
or
indiscriminately
proportional
contributions
to
overall
budget
savings
and
I
would
just
hope
that
we
don't
do
that.
I
You
know
they
have
the
veneer
of
fairness,
you're
treating
every
Department
program
and
operation
the
same,
but
that
certainly
does
not
account
for
the
fact
that
programs
and
departments
are
not
all
necessarily
similarly
situated
in
terms
of
their
capacity
to
do
work,
and
this
creates
a
burden
on
those
insufficiently
resourced
areas
already,
and
while
it's
much
harder
to
do
and
requires
a
lot
more
time,
you
know
hopefully
we're
taking
a
very
Discerning
view
of
each
department
and
doing
that
heart
analysis
to
determine
where
some
might
contribute
more
to
saving
some
might
contribute
Less
in
order
to
meet
programmatic
and
Mission
outcomes.
I
A
I
know
that
you
ask
your
department
heads
to
each
engage
in
that
difficult
reflection
and
I
think
that's
important
work,
because
it
then
enables
you
to
exercise
your
discretion
along
with
your
executive
team
about
you
know
what
what
cuts
actually
are
fair
and
which,
which
aren't,
but
lest
anyone
is
listening
to
those
comments
and
thinking
that
means
that
some
Department
should
be
Exempted
from
the
exercise
of
self-reflection
I
know,
that's
not
at
all
what
you
mean,
so
all
right,
I
think
we
are
then
ready
for
a
vote.
A
Thank
you
again,
Grim
presentation
again
budget,
not
budget
notwithstanding,
you
know,
I
think
that
we've
certainly
dealt
with
uncertain
times
before
I
think
you
know
we
tend
to
have
a
community,
as
evidenced
by
how
much
greater
participation
we
see
in
the
budget
hearing
than
in
the
tax-free
hearing,
we
tend
to
have
a
community.
That
is
tends
to
be
more
excited
about
opportunities
to
expand
rather
than
cut
government,
and
so
you
know,
obviously
that
is
a
I
imagine.
A
This
is
budget
guidance
that
is
not
going
to
be
resoundly
cheered
for
that
regard,
but
I
do
hope.
It'll
be
responsible
and
I
hope
give
the
manager
the
guidance
that
he
needs
to
put
together
a
budget
that
is
responsible
and
sustainable.
So
unless
there's
any
further
conversation,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
guidance,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
that
carries
unanimously
Madam
clerk.
Do
we
have
any
other
items
to
come
before
the
board?
No,
we
don't
we
do
not.
Today
we
will
reconvene
at
3
pm
on
Tuesday
I'll.
A
Take
the
opportunity
to
note
that,
in
addition
to
the
board's
business,
both
at
that
3
pm
recess
session
and
then
part
of
our
herd
consent
agenda
in
the
evening
in
between,
we
will
be
swearing.
Our
colleague
Mr
defranti
back
in
for
another
four
year
years,
which
we
are
delighted
by
and
invite
the
community
to
join
us
at
4
30
pm
here
in
this
boardroom,
on
Tuesday
swearing.