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From YouTube: Arlington County Board Work Session - April 13, 2023
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FY24 Budget - Wrap-Up
A
Good
afternoon
Welcome
to
our
wrap
up
work
session
on
the
FY
24
budget.
This
is
chair.
Christian,
Dorsey,
presiding
joining
me
are
board
members,
Matthew
Durante,
Katie
Crystal
Takis,
Karen
tonis.
We
do
expect
Vice
chair
Garvey
to
join
us
momentarily.
We
are
going
to
have
an
opportunity
for
any
remaining
questions
or
requests
for
information
from
staff
as
we
near
budget
completion
and
we'll
also
have
an
opportunity
to
have
some
significant
updates
from
staff
on
our
fiscal
position
as
well
as
sundry
other
matters.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
and
members
of
the
board,
where
I
thought
we
would
start
off
with
is
I'm
going
to
ask
Mr
Stevenson
to
do
a
verbal
summary
of
what
we
typically
refer
to
as
the
mid-year
and
third
quarter.
Analysis,
which
explains
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
since
the
budget
was
proposed
in
mid-February
in
two
two
respects.
One
is
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
in
our
ongoing
understanding
of
what's
happening
in
this
current
fiscal
year,
fiscal
23,
which
we
are
about
three
quarter
a
little
bit
more
than
three
quarters
of
the
way
through.
B
When
we
propose
the
budget
in
February,
we
have
a
certain
certain
estimates
and
those
estimates
sort
of
get
Frozen
in
Time
about
January
and
right
now
we're
in
April.
So
we
know
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
expense
expense
picture
looks
like
and
potentially
what
the
revenue
picture
looks
like.
Secondly,
we'll
also
give
you
an
update
on
what
we
think
is
going
on
with
our
estimates
around
Revenue
potential
for
fiscal
24.
B
and
when
you
add
that
all
up
it
comes
to
a
series
of
potentially
one-time
funding
that
could
be
increased
and
ongoing
funds
that
might
be
available
for
the
board
to
consider
so
Mr
Stevenson
will
go
through
a
verbal
recitation
and
then
we
have
a
table
and
we're
good.
Are
we
going
to
project
the
table
up
when
we're
done
after.
B
D
So
thank
you,
Mr
manager,
so
when
we
propose
the
budget
back
in
in
January,
as
as
the
manager
stated,
we
were
looking
at
current
year,
Revenue
and
forecasting,
obviously
to
to
build
the
24
budget
and
included
in
the
proposed
budget.
We
made
a
number
of
Revenue
re-estimates
in
this
fiscal
year
that
the
manager
included
in
the
proposed
budget
as
one
one-time
Rec
Revenue
that
we
were
anticipating
receiving
and
we've
talked
about
this
through
the
budget
process.
D
D
So
what
we're
doing
today
is
we're
looking
at
you
know,
what's
changed
from
from
then,
but
to
sort
of
highlight
those
items
we
had
sales
and
meals
and
tot
that's
what
the
hotel
taxes
all
performing
better
in
this
fiscal
year,
which
we
made
assumptions
that
they
would
continue
in
in
fiscal
year,
24.
vehicle
personal
property.
The
receipts
came
in
in
October
and
business
tangible
in
the
fall,
and
so
we
made
adjustments
there,
business
tangible
being
slightly
less
than
budget,
but
vehicle
personal
property
being
stronger,
and
then
we
tweaked
some
other
taxes.
D
As
a
part
of
that
analysis
in
in
the
proposed
budget,
we
didn't
really
make
any
adjustments
on
the
non-tax
side
in
the
proposed
budget.
Now,
as
we
go
through.
Third,
the
third
mid-year
third
quarter
review,
we're
looking
at
everything
and
or
revalidating
the
the
tax
estimates
that
we
made
in
Earl
several
months
ago
and
we're
making
a
few
additional
tweaks
on
that
front.
D
But
on
the
non-tax
side,
as
we
as
we
look
at
the
departmental
revenue,
we're
having
to
make
a
number
of
changes,
we're
seeing
lower
revenue
for
some
DHS
and
Parks
program
Revenue,
but
we're
also
seeing
savings
on
the
on
the
expenditure
side.
We're
seeing
some
increases
in
various
state
revenue
line
items,
but
in
the
aggregate
we're
seeing
non-tax
Revenue
will
be
negative
from
the
budget
in
in
this
fiscal
year.
D
D
We
have
one-time
Revenue,
that's
coming
in
in
23
and
some
additional
monies
that
we're
assuming
will
be
falling
out
in
24
that
are
actually
for
FY
23
expenses,
but
the
timing
of
FEMA,
as
you
know,
can
take,
can
take
months
and
so
we're
making
on
a
conservative
Assumption
of
that
Revenue
that
we'll
receive
in
20
in
24
that
some
may
actually
trickle
into
into
25.
But
we've
made
made
an
estimate
there
and
then.
Finally,
as
we
we
often
talk
about
at
this
time
of
year,
is
we're.
D
Looking
at
the
B
poll
receipts
business,
professional
occupational
license
tax
receipts
they're,
not
even
due
to
the
county
until
March.
So
that's
a
sort
of
a
big
unknown
and
and
right
now
they
are
actually
trending
stronger
in
both
this
ongoing
money.
For
for
B,
pull
we're
having
to
offset
that
a
little
bit.
By
wanting
to
pull
back
on
the
recreation
tax
that
we
put
into
24.
D
At
a
high
level,
what
I've
just
sort
of
walked
through
and
you
can
see
where
the
pieces
fall
out,
we
have
three
three
columns.
The
first
one
is
fy23
one
time,
Revenue
adjustments
that
are
different
from
the
per
that
were
in
the
proposed
budget,
and
so
you
can
see
b-poll
is
stronger
that
that's
a
positive.
Are
we
having
to
make
some
other
negative
adjustments
of
other
tax
revenues
and
then
FEMA
of
3.7
million
to
the
good
and
then
some
other
tax
non-tax
revenue,
that's
falling
short
one
thing
I
will
highlight.
D
I
forgot
to
mention
earlier
is
in
a
rising
interest
rate
environment,
and
we
talked
about
this
at
close
out
of
last
year.
We
had
this
gasby
requirement.
That
requires
us
to
acknowledge
Investments
that
we
have
in
the
Treasure
I
believe,
spoke
to
it
in
her
presentation,
the
the
the
Investments
that
we
hold.
We
need
to
recognize
if
they
were
liquidated
at
this
point
in
time.
D
D
D
You've
heard
it
come
up
in
the
departmental
presentations
and
with
Staffing
that
over
time
is,
is
exceeding
budgetary
levels
in
in
23,
and
so
you
know
we're
having
to
backfill
and
it's
just
it's
putting
pressure
on
a
couple
of
departments
in
particular,
and
then
we
have
some
other
additional
expenses
in
this
fiscal
year
in
in
the
housing
in
the
housing.
Arena
eviction,
prevention
that
that
are
unbudgeted
that
are
putting
some
pressure
on
the
overall
expenditure
side
of
the
equation,
but
we
are
are
expecting
some
savings
on
for
Debt,
Service
and
Jason.
D
Freeze
the
other
day
talked
about
the
delay
in
the
Bond
issuance
and
that's
created
some
Savings
budgetarily
in
this
fiscal
year
that
we're
putting
on
the
tables
available.
We've
already
made
the
adjustments
in
the
24
budget
for
the
levels
of
debt
service
that
we
anticipate
so
we're
closely
monitoring
the
departmental
spend,
but
right
now
we're
for
the
savings
that
we're
putting
on
the
table.
D
It's
it's
the
it's
that
Debt
Service
savings
that
I
just
just
mentioned,
and
then
obviously
in
the
proposed
budget,
the
manager
did
not
allocate
4.4
million
dollars,
and
so
we've
just
included
that
on
the
included
that
amount
on
this
table
on
the
far
right,
you
can
see
the
ongoing
adjustments.
I've
talked
about
the
the
different
pieces
and
net
ongoing
is
a
three
million
dollar
adjustment
and
then
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
table.
B
H
Got
it
there,
we
go
okay
good
afternoon,
so,
as
you
can
see
up
on
the
screen,
there's
a
total
funds
available
line.
That's
the
total
revenue
that
that
is
falling
out
from
the
mid-year
third
quarter.
Analysis.
The
county
manager
recommendations
is
a
subset
of
that
list
of
requests
that
we
had
heard
throughout
all
the
work
sessions.
It's
not
the
entire
list,
it's
everything
that
was
classified
as
must-do
or
high,
so
it
doesn't
include
those
mediums.
B
G
A
H
K
B
A
That
as
I'm
sure,
we
likely
will
to
some
degree.
So
any
other
questions
about
this,
so
Mr
Stevenson
as
far
as
for
b-poll,
is
the
anticipated
growth
in
21,
just
in
taking
the
adjusted
Baseline
for
23
and
24
24.
Is
that
just
taking
the
adjusted
baseline
from
23
and
giving
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
of
growth
for
next
year?
Yes,
sir,
okay.
M
B
Right
so
we,
okay,
just
I,
remember
speaking
a
little
bit
seriously
here,
but
when
we
went
through
and
we
compiled
all
the
comments
that
were
received
during
the
public
budget
hearing
and
from
the
questions
publicly
available
questions
from
all
of
you.
One
of
the
questions
we
received
I
think
I
know
was
at
least
from
Miss
Crystal
and
may
have
been
from
other
board.
Members
would
be
the
possibility
of
adding
more
funds
for
a
notice
of
funding
availability
for
nonprofits.
B
So
we
we
said
that
that
was
potentially
something
that
had
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
board,
but
we
left
the
number
blank.
So
in
other
words
it's
just
a
stub
entry
and
that
table
we
sent
you.
So
that's
why
it's
blank
that
doesn't
mean
I.
It
doesn't
mean
I'm,
saying
it
isn't
of
importance
to
you.
I
just
didn't
know
how.
N
K
I
see,
and
so
that's
the
got
it.
Thank
you
so
I'm
also
just
substantively
trying
to
understand
this.
My
let
me
first
just
note
and
stipulate
this
is
really
important
and
immense
need.
I
know.
We've
talked
about
this
a
lot
in
public
safety,
so
I'm
not
querying
the
the
need
or
reality
that
is
facing
those
two
departments
in
particular.
K
However,
I'm
trying
to
understand
why
there
would
be
this
fiscal
impact,
my
understanding
was
generally
that
one
time
obviously
has
a
relationship
with
being
under
strength.
The
only
Silver
Lining
of
being
under
strength
is
that
there
are
cost
savings
realized
by
that,
because
we're
not
paying
salaries
and
that
pays
for
overtime.
So
wouldn't
it
be
the
case
that
if
we
are
able
to
fill
those
vacant
positions,
then
we
will
have
less
overtime
required
and
if
we
are
unable
to
there'll,
be
more
overtime
required,
but
we'll
have
savings
from
the
positions.
B
K
B
Right
and
I
I,
don't
know
it
to
what
degree
Chief
pen
got
into
that,
but
when
he
is
trying
to
maintain
the
service
levels
for
the
community
same
thing,
the
sheriff
talked
about,
which
is
that
we're
trying
very
hard
to
avoid
moving
to
mandatory
overtime
schedules
and
as
much
as
and
we've
made
it
very
clear
to
staff
that
this
is
literally
to
get
us
over
the
hump.
Until
we
get
more
people
that
this
has
proven
to
be
the
difference.
Sometimes
in
getting
people
to
sign
up.
G
T
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
So
it's
sort
of
a
recruitment
and
retention
I
think
yeah,
no
I
totally
get
it
and
I
think
it's
I'm
fine
with
it.
I
want
to
just
ask
a
few
questions
about
the
debt
service
savings
to
make
sure
that
I
kind
of
understand,
because
I
think
about
the
out
years,
I'm
assuming
and
I
could
be
assuming
incorrectly
that
The
Debt
Service
savings
are
because
we've
decided.
G
We
don't
need
to
sell
some
bonds
so
we're
not
because
it's
kind
of
expensive
to
sell
bonds
these
days
so
we'd
rather
not,
and
these
are
for
projects
that
don't
need
the
money
right
away,
but
maybe
originally
we
thought
we
might
and
I'm
assuming
in
like
by
next
year.
We
really
will
need
to
save
the
bonds
because
we're
going
to
need
to
do
the
projects.
B
Is
that
right,
that's
accurate
and
I
think
it
will
be
on
the
May
agenda,
or
maybe
the
June
agenda
will
come
we're
going
to
be
coming
to
you
as
much
as
I
would
like
not
to
go
into
the
bond
market
around
the
time
where
it
looks
like
the
federal
government
may
go
belly
up.
Is
that
a
term
that
we
were
able
to
really
scrape
through
and
Maria?
B
You
might
want
to
add
more
on
this
if
you
want
to,
but
no
scrape
look
at
look
at
our
balances
and
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
cash
flow
funds
that
we
had.
We
worked
very
closely
with
the
schools.
It
turns
out
that
we
could
get
by
without
getting
a
new
infusion
of
money,
but
we're
at
this
point
we're
very
close
to
Running
on
Fumes.
So
we
need
to
go
into
the
market
in
the
next
30
to
60
days
and
we'll
be
doing
that
we'll
be
coming
to
you
for
an
authorization
to
do
that.
G
D
To
so
we
when
we
adopted
the
23
budget
I
believe
the
Assumption
was
that
we
would
go
to
market
last
fall
and
that
was
The
Debt
Service
in
the
20
included
in
the
23
budget.
We
delayed
that
by
cash
flowing
as
Mark
said
and
and
balances,
but
we
need
to
go
in
in
this
May
June
time
frame.
It's
creating
one-time
Savings
in
23
and
we've
built
in
the
assumed
Debt
Service
for
going
here
in
May
in
the
24
proposed
budget.
Already,
okay,.
G
B
Else,
I,
don't
think
so.
At
this
point
you
know
typically,
and
you
had
mentioned-
there
are
a
number
of
questions
that
board
members
have
submitted,
but
this
is
a
a
great
opportunity
and
I
I'd
like
to
note
that
you
haven't
been
shy
over
the
last
few
days
to
ask
additional
questions
so
that
the
timeline
would
be
whatever
and
I've
sent
you
information
as
recently
as
too
many
today
to
some
of
your
questions,
yeah.
No,
if
you
have
additional
questions
we
are.
This
is
we're
ready
for
that.
B
This
is
the
time
where
we're
fully
available
to
sort
of
work
with
them,
so
that
when
the
chair
comes
forward
on
Tuesday
with
the
Chairman's
Mark
that
we
have,
you
have
all
the
information
that
you
you
need
because
the
Chairman's
mark
on
Tuesday.
We
need
to
take
that
time
to
actually
work
through
the
budget
adoption
resolutions
and
that
the
other
material
and
make
sure
all
the
numbers
tie.
A
Thank
you,
and
as
part
of
that,
there
are
a
couple
of
board
member
queries
that
have
come
through
in
the
last
48
72
hours
that
are
not
a
part
of
the
tracking
spreadsheet,
just
for
ease
of
keeping
this
all
together
and
to
make
sure
I'm
faithful
for
my
job
of
facilitating
full
consideration
of
all
requests.
If
we
can
have
pencils
down
on
asks
to
add
to
the
budget
by
tomorrow
afternoon,
at
five
o'clock,
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated
and
I.
A
B
Right
and
one
other
item
which
I
know
you
and
I
have
talked
about,
which
is
typical
of
the
board
to
do
at
least
has
been
for
the
last
10
years
when
you
adopt
the
budget
and
you'll
sometimes
provide
and
I
really
really
do.
Welcome
the
guidance
that
you
might
have
the
written
guidance
that
accompanies
that.
So
we're
available
to
the
extent
that
you
have
items
that
you
would
like
to
do
to
work
with
you
on
the
wording
of
that
and
ideas
on
that.
A
J
B
So
I
think
you're,
referring
to
the
question
about
what
would
the
cost
be
associated
with
reducing
the
12-minute
headways?
Is
that
the
question
to
six
minute
headways?
We
have
a
response
that
should
be
coming
to
you
by
the
end
of
the
day
today
and
I
just
wanted
just
to
repeat
you
know
this,
but
probably
better
than
I
do
and
and
I've
said
this
I
don't
want
the
narrative
to
be
that
somehow
we
were
unable
to
come
up
with
the
funding
if
somehow
we're
able
to
solve,
which
I
think
are
the
it's.
B
D
A
A
G
No
I'd
have
any
other
questions,
I
think
they're
for
conversations
Among,
Us
I'm,
trying
to
think
of
some
things.
If
this
is
these
make
sense
or
not,
I
guess
the
one
which
maybe
somebody
knows
but
I'm
not
sure
anybody
we've
gotten
a
late
request
for
quite
a
bit
from
Aim
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
a
sense
and
maybe
not
even
right
now,
but
up
until
the
five
o'clock
deadline,
what
a
might
need
to
sort
of
keep
going,
but
maybe
not
as
as
large,
an
increases
they're
requesting
right.
B
So
we
we
received
a
copy
of
that
I
know
that
Mr
Stevenson
and
Mr
auctionbo
from
a
DTS
brief
Mr
Karen
tonis,
probably
a
little
bit
over
a
week
ago,
we've
given
him
Mr,
Karen
Thomas
and
we've
we're
happy
to
share
with
you
all
the
question
about
funds
that
are
available
in
the
the
peg
fund,
the
public
educational
government
Capital
fund
and
then
the
history
of
funding
for
aim
and
we're
happy
to
go
into
further
detail.
If
you
have
questions
about
that.
AA
G
N
You
Mr
chair,
appreciate
your
organizing
us
and
I
just
there's
a
couple
of
items
that
weren't
quite
defined
and
you'll,
of
course
do
do
the
mark,
but
on
the
environmental
front,
I
just
wanted
to
surface
I've
been
having
a
little
bit
of
conversations
towards
a
way
of
focusing
on
the
budget
that
might
lead
to
halftime
staff,
that
that
seems
more
aligned.
We've
been
having
a
rigorous
buses
discussion,
but
that's
not
really
aligned
with
the
budget
process.
N
B
You
want
me
to
I
can
actually
speak
a
little
bit
to
each
of
those
on
the.
So
you
all
see
the
project
across
the
street
and
I
forget
the
name
of
it.
That's
coming
to
completion
here
in
courthouse
and
at
some
point
following
that,
there's
going
to
be
work
done
on
the
road
to
dig
it
up
and
redo
it.
So
it
turns
out
that
we
have
a
number
of
conduits
under
that
road
that
incl
that
could
serve
a
role
of
providing
a
fiber
connection
from
this
building
over
to
the
course
jails
facility.
B
If
we
want
to
this
is
all
in
trying
to
demobilize
our
data
center.
Here
we
have
really
no
idea
whether
those
conduits
are
in
good
shape
or
bad
shape,
whether
they're
there,
whether
they're
home
for
rodents,
we
just
don't
know
so.
We
received
a
good
faith
estimate
from
the
Department
of
Technology
Services
of
about
five
hundred
thousand
I
put
in
a
placeholder
for
350
000..
B
I
really
don't
know
what
the
right
number
is
until
we
dig
the
hole,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
follow
through
on
what
you
heard
from
Mr
Lee
about
the
commitment
to
you
know
moving
to
the
cloud
so
that
is
you'll
see
on
the
spreadsheet.
It
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
detail.
Mr
defranti,
that's
I!
B
This
was
a
question
of
whether
the
expanded
scope,
Beyond
the
kind
of
information
that
was
envisioned
two
years
ago
was
going
to
create
additional
work
for
the
police
department,
whether
a
civilian
position
might
be
in
order
and
that's
a
question:
it's
not
in
my
high
priority
list,
but
that's
the
question.
There
is
whether
it
might
be
an
order
for
additional
funding,
so
I
think
I,
I
think
I
covered.
A
And
one
thing
I
might
suggest:
weister
Garvey
is
and
I'm
happy
to
do
this,
given
that
I,
anticipate
speaking
with
some
of
our
school
board,
colleagues
soon
is
to
figure
out
how
they
treat
that
budgetarily,
whether
or
not
that
write-off
has
any
material
impact
on
their
budget.
You
know,
while
it
it
seems
that
on
some
level,
if
they
write
this
off
or
you
know,
cease
actively
collecting
it.
G
A
A
A
Good
afternoon
Welcome
to
our
wrap
up
work
session
on
the
FY
24
budget.
This
is
chair.
Christian,
Dorsey,
presiding
joining
me
are
board
members,
Matthew
verante,
Katie
Crystal
Takis,
Karen
tonis.
We
do
expect
Vice
chair
Garvey
to
join
us
momentarily.
We
are
going
to
have
an
opportunity
for
any
remaining
questions
or
requests
for
information
from
staff
as
we
near
budget
completion
and
we'll
also
have
an
opportunity
to
have
some
significant
updates
from
staff
on
our
fiscal
position
as
well
as
sundry
other
matters.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
and
members
of
the
board,
where
I
thought
we
would
start
off
with
is
I'm
going
to
ask
Mr
Stevenson
to
do
a
a
verbal
summary
of
what
we
typically
refer
to
as
the
mid-year
and
third
quarter.
Analysis,
which
explains
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
since
the
budget
was
proposed
in
mid-February
in
two
two
respects.
One
is
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
in
our
ongoing
understanding
of
what's
happening
in
this
current
fiscal
year.
B
Fiscal
23,
which
we
are
about
three
quarter
a
little
bit
more
than
three
quarters
of
the
way
through.
When
we
propose
the
budget
in
February,
we
have
a
certain
certain
estimates
and
those
estimates
sort
of
get
Frozen
in
Time
about
January
and
right
now
we're
in
April.
So
we
know
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
expense
expense
picture
looks
like
and
potentially
what
the
revenue
picture
looks
like.
Secondly,
we'll
also
give
you
an
update
on
what
we
think
is
going
on
with
our
estimates
around
Revenue
potential
for
fiscal
24.
B
and
when
you
add
that
all
up
it
comes
to
a
series
of
potentially
one-time
funding
that
could
be
increased
and
ongoing
funds
that
might
be
available
for
the
board
to
consider
so
Mr
Stevenson
will
go
through
a
verbal
recitation
and
then
we
have
a
table
and
we're
good.
Are
we
going
to
project
the
table
up
when
we're
done
after.
B
D
So
thank
you,
Mr
manager,
so
when
we
propose
the
budget
back
in
in
January,
as
as
the
manager
stated,
we
were
looking
at
current
year,
Revenue
and
forecasting,
obviously
to
to
build
the
24
budget
and
included
in
the
proposed
budget.
We
made
a
number
of
Revenue
re-estimates
in
this
fiscal
year
that
the
manager
included
in
the
proposed
budget
as
one
one-time
Rec
Revenue
that
we
were
anticipating
receiving
and
we've
talked
about
this
through
the
budget
process.
D
D
So
what
we're
doing
today
is
we're
looking
at
you
know,
what's
changed
from
from
then,
but
to
sort
of
highlight
those
items
we
had
sales
and
meals
and
tot
that's
what
the
hotel
taxes
all
performing
better
in
this
fiscal
year,
which
we've
made
assumptions
that
they
would
continue
in
in
fiscal
year,
24.
vehicle
personal
property.
The
receipts
came
in
in
October
and
business
tangible
in
the
fall,
and
so
we
made
adjustments
there,
business
tangible
being
slightly
less
than
budget,
but
vehicle
personal
property
being
stronger,
and
then
we
tweaked
some
other
taxes.
D
As
a
part
of
that
analysis
in
in
the
proposed
budget,
we
didn't
really
make
any
adjustments
on
the
non-tax
side
in
the
proposed
budget.
Now,
as
we
go
through.
Third,
the
third
mid-year
third
quarter
review,
we're
looking
at
everything
and
we're
revalidating
the
the
tax
estimates
that
we
made
in
Earl
several
months
ago
and
we're
making
a
few
additional
tweaks
on
that
front.
D
But
on
the
non-tax
side,
as
we
as
we
look
at
the
departmental
revenue,
we're
having
to
make
a
number
of
changes,
we're
seeing
lower
revenue
for
some
DHS
and
Parks
program
Revenue,
but
we're
also
seeing
savings
on
the
on
the
expenditure
side.
We're
seeing
some
increases
in
various
state
revenue
line
items,
but
in
the
aggregate
we're
seeing
non-tax
Revenue
will
be
negative
from
the
budget
in
in
this
fiscal
year.
D
D
We
have
one-time
Revenue,
that's
coming
in
in
23
and
some
additional
monies
that
we're
assuming
will
be
falling
out
in
24
that
are
actually
for
FY
23
expenses,
but
the
timing
of
FEMA,
as
you
know,
can
take,
can
take
months
and
so
we're
making
in
a
a
conservative
Assumption
of
that
Revenue
that
we'll
receive
in
20
in
24
that
some
may
actually
trickle
into
into
25.
But
we've
made
made
an
estimate
there
and
then.
Finally,
as
we
we
often
talk
about
at
this
time
of
year,
is
we're.
D
Looking
at
the
B
poll
receipts
business,
professional
occupational
license
tax
receipts
they're,
not
even
due
to
the
county
until
March,
so
that's
a
sort
of
a
big
unknown
and
and
right
now
they
are
actually
trending
stronger
in
both
this
fiscal
year
from
the
budget,
the
the
23
adopt
the
budget
and
what
we
and
by
extension
were
estimating
that
there
will
be
strength
over
what
we've
we
assumed
in
the
fall.
You
know
in
the
24
number
so
additional
ongoing
money
for
for
people
we're
having
to
offset
that
a
little
bit.
D
We
have
three
three
columns.
The
first
one
is
FY
23
one
time,
Revenue,
adjustments
that
are
different
from
the
per
that
were
in
the
proposed
budget,
and
so
you
can
see
b-poll
is
stronger
that
that's
a
positive.
Are
we
having
to
make
some
other
negative
adjustments
of
other
tax
revenues
and
then
FEMA
of
3.7
million
to
the
good
and
then
some
other
tax
non-tax
revenue,
that's
falling
short
one
thing
I
will
highlight.
D
I
forgot
to
mention
earlier
is
in
a
rising
interest
rate
environment,
and
we
talked
about
this
at
close
out
of
last
year.
We
have
this
gasby
requirement.
That
requires
us
to
acknowledge
Investments
that
we
have,
in
the
treasurer
I
believe,
spoke
to
it
in
her
presentation,
the
the
the
Investments
that
we
hold.
We
need
to
recognize
if
they
were
liquidated
at
this
point
in
time.
D
D
So
the
top
part
of
this
the
table
here
is
is
revenue.
We
have
some
expenditure
savings
that
we're
recognizing.
In
this
fiscal
year
we
have
we've
been
most
Department
spending
has
been
trending
near
budget
and
several
departments,
and
we've
you've
heard
it
come
up
in
the
departmental
presentations
and
with
Staffing.
D
That
over
time
is,
is
exceeding
budgetary
levels
in
in
23,
and
so
you
know
we're
having
to
backfill
and
it's
just
it's
putting
pressure
on
a
couple
of
departments
in
particular,
and
then
we
have
some
other
additional
expenses
in
this
fiscal
year
in
in
the
housing
in
the
housing.
Arena
eviction,
prevention
that
that
are
unbudgeted
that
are
putting
some
pressure
on
the
overall
expenditure
side
of
the
equation,
but
we
are
are
expecting
some
savings
on
for
Debt,
Service
and
Jason.
D
Freeze
the
other
day
talked
about
the
delay
in
the
bond
issuance
and
that's
created
some
Savings
budgetarily
in
this
fiscal
year
that
we're
putting
on
the
tables
available.
We've
already
made
the
adjustments
in
the
24
budget
for
the
levels
of
debt
service
that
we
anticipate
so
we're
closely
monitoring
the
departmental
spend,
but
right
now
we're
for
the
savings
that
we're
putting
on
the
table.
D
It's
it's
the
it's
that
Debt
Service
savings
that
I
just
just
mentioned,
and
then
obviously
in
the
proposed
budget,
the
manager
did
not
allocate
4.4
million
dollars,
and
so
we've
just
included
that
on
the
included
that
amount
on
this
table
on
the
far
right,
you
can
see
the
ongoing
adjustments.
I've
talked
about
the
the
different
pieces
and
net
ongoing
is
a
three
million
dollar
adjustment
and
then
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
table.
T
H
We
go
okay
good
afternoon,
so,
as
you
can
see
up
on
the
screen,
there's
a
total
funds
available
line.
That's
the
total
revenue
that
that
is
falling
out
from
the
mid-year
third
quarter.
Analysis.
The
county
manager
recommendations
is
a
subset
of
that
list
of
requests
that
we
had
heard
throughout
all
the
work
sessions.
It's
not
the
entire
list,
it's
everything
that
was
classified
as
must
do
or
high.
So
it
doesn't
include
those
mediums.
B
B
A
That
as
I'm
sure,
we
likely
will
to
some
degree.
So
any
other
questions
about
this,
so
Mr
Stevenson
as
far
as
for
b-poll,
is
the
anticipated
growth
in
21,
just
in
taking
the
adjusted
Baseline
for
23
and
24
24.
Is
that
just
taking
the
adjusted
baseline
from
23
and
giving
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
of
growth
for
next
year?
Yes,
sir,
okay.
B
We,
okay,
just
I,
remember
speaking
a
little
bit
seriously
here,
but
when
we
went
through
and
we
compiled
all
the
comments
that
were
received
during
the
public
budget
hearing
and
from
the
questions
publicly
available
questions
we
received
from
all
of
you.
One
of
the
questions
we
received
I
think
I
know
was
at
least
from
Miss
Crystal
and
may
have
been
from
other
board.
Members
would
be
the
possibility
of
adding
more
funds
for
a
notice
of
funding
availability
for
nonprofits.
B
So
we
we
said
that
that
was
potentially
something
that
had
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
board,
but
we
left
the
number
blank.
So
in
other
words
it's
just
a
stub
entry
and
that
table
we
sent
you.
So
that's
why
it's
blank
that
doesn't
mean
I.
It
doesn't
mean
I'm,
saying
it
isn't
of
importance
to
you.
I
just
didn't
know
how.
N
B
K
I
see-
and
so
that's
that
got
it.
Thank
you
so
I'm
also
just
substantively
trying
to
understand
this.
My
let
me
first
just
note
and
stipulate
this
is
really
important
and
an
immense
need.
I
know.
We've
talked
about
this
a
lot
in
public
safety,
so
I'm
not
querying
the
the
need
or
reality
that
is
facing
those
two
departments
in
particular.
K
However,
I'm
trying
to
understand
why
there
would
be
this
fiscal
impact,
my
understanding
was
generally
that
one
time
obviously
has
a
relationship
with
being
under
strength.
The
only
Silver
Lining
of
being
under
strength
is
that
there
are
cost
savings
realized
by
that,
because
we're
not
paying
salaries
and
that
pays
for
overtime.
So
wouldn't
it
be
the
case
that
if
we
are
able
to
fill
those
vacant
positions,
then
we
will
have
less
overtime
required
and
if
we
are
unable
to
there'll,
be
more
overtime
required,
but
we'll
have
savings
from
the
positions.
B
B
And
I
don't
know
it
to
what
degree
Chief
pen
got
into
that,
but
when
he
is
trying
to
maintain
the
service
levels
for
the
community
same
thing,
the
sheriff
talked
about,
which
is
that
we're
trying
very
hard
to
avoid
moving
to
mandatory
overtime
schedules
and
as
much
as
we've
made
it
very
clear
to
staff
that
this
is
literally
to
get
us
over
the
hump.
Until
we
get
more
people
that
this
has
proven
to
be
the
difference.
Sometimes
in
getting
people
to
sign
up.
G
T
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
So
it's
sort
of
a
recruitment
and
retention,
yeah,
no
I,
totally
get
it
and
I
think
it's
I'm
fine
with
it.
I
want
to
just
ask
a
few
questions
about
the
debt
service
savings
to
make
sure
that
I
kind
of
understand,
because
I
think
about
the
out
years,
I'm
assuming
and
I
could
be
assuming
incorrectly
that
The
Debt
Service
savings
are
because
we've
decided.
G
We
don't
need
to
sell
some
bonds
so
we're
not
because
it's
kind
of
expensive
to
sell
bonds
these
days
so
we'd
rather
not,
and
these
are
for
projects
that
don't
need
the
money
right
away,
but
maybe
originally
we
thought
we
might
and
I'm
assuming
in
like
by
next
year.
We
really
will
need
to
save
the
bonds
because
we're
going
to
need
to
do
the
projects.
B
Right,
that's
accurate
and
I
think
it
will
be
on
the
May
agenda,
or
maybe
the
June
agenda
will
come
we're
going
to
be
coming
to
you
as
much
as
I
would
like
not
to
go
into
the
bond
market
around
the
time
where
it
looks
like
the
federal
government
may
go
belly
up.
Is
that
a
term
that
we
were
able
to
really
scrape
through
and
Maria?
B
You
might
want
to
add
more
on
this
if
you
want
to,
but
no
scrape
look
at
look
at
our
balances
and
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
cash
flow
funds
that
we
had.
We've
worked
very
closely
with
the
schools.
It
turns
out
that
we
could
get
by
without
getting
a
new
infusion
of
money,
but
we're
at
this
point
we're
very
close
to
Running
on
Fumes.
So
we
need
to
go
into
the
market
in
the
next
30
to
60
days
and
we'll
be
doing
that
we'll
be
coming
to
you
for
an
authorization
to
do
that.
G
D
To
so
we
when
we
adopted
the
23
budget
I
believe
the
Assumption
was
that
we
would
go
to
market
last
fall
and
that
was
The
Debt
Service
in
the
20
included
in
the
23
budget.
We
delayed
that
by
cash
flowing
as
Mark
said
and
and
balances,
but
we
need
to
go
in
in
this
May
June
time
frame.
It's
creating
one-time
Savings
in
23
and
we've
built
in
the
assumed
Debt
Service
for
going
here
in
May
in
the
24
proposed
budget.
Already,
okay,.
AA
G
Z
B
Else,
I,
don't
think
so.
At
this
point
you
know
typically,
and
you
had
mentioned,
there
are
a
number
of
questions
that
board
members
have
submitted,
but
this
is
a
a
great
opportunity
and
I
I'd
like
to
note
that
you
haven't
been
shy
over
the
last
few
days
to
ask
additional
questions
so
that
the
timeline
would
be
whatever
and
I've
sent
you
information
as
recently
as
two
three
today
to
some
of
your
questions,
yeah.
No,
if
you
have
additional
questions
we
are.
This
is
we're
ready
for
that.
B
This
is
the
time
where
we're
fully
available
to
sort
of
work
with
them,
so
that
when
the
chair
comes
forward
on
Tuesday,
where
the
Chairman's
Mark
that
we
have
you
have
all
the
information
that
you
you
need
because
the
Chairman's
mark
on
Tuesday.
We
need
to
take
that
time
to
actually
work
through
the
budget,
adoption
resolutions
and
that
the
other
material
and
make
sure
all
the
numbers
tie.
B
A
You
and
as
part
of
that
there
are
a
couple
of
board
member
queries
that
have
come
through
in
the
last
48
72
hours
that
are
not
a
part
of
the
tracking
spreadsheet,
just
for
ease
of
keeping
this
all
together
and
to
make
sure
I'm
faithful
for
my
job
of
facilitating
full
consideration
of
all
requests.
If
we
can
have
pencils
down
on
asks
to
add
to
the
budget
by
tomorrow
afternoon,
at
five
o'clock,
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated
and
I.
A
B
Right
and
one
other
item
which
I
know
you
and
I
have
talked
about,
which
is
typical
of
the
board
to
do
at
least
has
been
for
the
last
10
years
when
you
adopt
the
budget
and
you'll
sometimes
provide
and
I
really
really
do.
Welcome
the
guidance
that
you
might
have
the
written
guidance
that
accompanies
that.
So
we're
available
to
the
extent
that
you
have
items
that
you
would
like
to
do
to
work
with
you
on
the
wording
of
that
and
ideas
on
that.
A
J
B
So
I
think
you're,
referring
to
the
question
about
what
would
the
cost
be
associated
with
reducing
the
12-minute
headways?
Is
that
the
question
to
six
minute
headways?
We
have
a
response
that
should
be
coming
to
you
by
the
end
of
the
day
today
and
I
just
wanted
just
to
repeat
you
know
this
better,
probably
better
than
I
do
and
and
I've
said
this
I
don't
want
the
narrative
to
be
that
somehow
we
were
unable
to
come
up
with
the
funding
if
somehow
we're
able
to
solve,
which
I
think
are
the
it's.
B
B
D
A
P
G
No
I
have
any
other
questions,
I
think
they're
for
conversations
Among,
Us
I'm,
trying
to
think
of
some
things.
If
this
is
these
make
sense
or
not,
I
guess
the
one
which
maybe
somebody
knows
but
I'm
not
sure
anybody
we've
gotten
a
late
request
for
quite
a
bit
from
Aim
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
a
sense
and
maybe
not
even
right
now,
but
up
until
the
five
o'clock
deadline,
what
a
might
need
to
sort
of
keep
going,
but
maybe
not
as
as
large,
an
increase
as
they're
requesting
right.
B
So
we
we
received
a
copy
of
that
I
know
that
Mr
Stevenson
and
Mr
auctionbo
from
a
DTS
brief
Mr
Karen
tonus,
probably
a
little
bit
over
a
week
ago,
we've
given
him
Mr
Karen
tones
and
we've
we're
happy
to
share
with
you
all
the
question
about
funds
that
are
available
in
the
the
peg
fund,
the
public
educational
government
Capital
fund
and
then
the
history
of
funding
for
aim
and
we're
happy
to
go
into
further
detail.
If
you
have
questions
about
that,.
AA
N
You
Mr
chair,
appreciate
your
organizing
us
and
I
just
there's
a
couple
of
items
that
weren't
quite
defined
and
you'll,
of
course
do
do
the
mark,
but
on
the
environmental
front,
I
just
wanted
to
surface
I've
been
having
a
little
bit
of
conversations
towards
a
way
of
focusing
on
the
budget
that
might
lead
to
halftime
staff,
that
that
seems
more
aligned.
We've
been
having
a
rigorous
buses
discussion,
but
that's
not
really
aligned
with
the
budget
process.
N
B
You
want
me
to
I
can
actually
speak
a
little
bit
to
each
of
those
on
the.
So
you
all
see
the
project
across
the
street
and
I
forget
the
name
of
it.
That's
coming
to
completion
here
in
courthouse
and
at
some
point
following
that,
there's
going
to
be
work
done
on
the
road
to
dig
it
up
and
redo
it.
So
it
turns
out
that
we
have
a
number
of
conduits
under
that
road
that
incl
that
could
serve
a
role
of
providing
a
fiber
connection
from
this
building
over
to
the
course
jails
facility.
B
B
We
received
a
good
faith
estimate
from
the
Department
of
Technology
Services
of
about
500
000
I,
put
in
a
placeholder
for
350
000,
I,
really
don't
know
what
the
right
number
is
until
we
dig
the
hole,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
follow
through
on
what
you
heard
from
Mr
Lee
about
the
commitment
to
you
know
moving
to
the
cloud
so
that
is
you'll
see
on
the
spreadsheet.
It
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
detail.
Mr
defranti,
that's
I!
B
Think
the
item
you're
talking
about
the
the
other
item
which
that
Mr
D
Franti
raised.
Was
this
question
and
I
think
we
are
hoping
to
have
on
the
County
board
agenda
for
the
Tuesday
resource
meeting,
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
independent
policing
auditor
and
the
civilian
oversight
board.
B
This
was
a
question
of
whether
the
expanded
scope,
Beyond
the
kind
of
information
that
was
envisioned
two
years
ago
was
going
to
create
additional
work
for
the
police
department,
whether
a
civilian
position
might
be
in
order
and
that's
a
question:
it's
not
in
my
high
priority
list,
but
that's
the
question.
There
is
whether
it
might
be
an
order
for
additional
funding,
so
I
think
I
I
think
I
covered
both
of.
G
A
B
A
And
one
thing
I
might
suggest:
weister
Garvey
is
and
I'm
happy
to
do
this,
given
that
I,
anticipate
speaking
with
some
of
our
school
board,
colleagues
soon
is
to
figure
out
how
they
treat
that
budgetarily,
whether
or
not
that
write-off
has
any
material
impact
on
their
budget.
You
know,
while
it
it
seems
that
on
some
level,
if
they
write
this
off
or
you
know,
cease
actively
collecting
it.
G
Well
or
it
just
hasn't,
been
clear
to
me,
yeah
so
I'd
like
to
look
at
that
and
I
think
there
is
the
question
about
hounding
afterwards,
but
it
does
I
think
stay
with
a
family
for
the
years,
the
child's
in
school,
and
that
could
be
a
lot
of
years
of
I.
Just
don't
know,
I'm
yeah,
really
not
I,
don't
know
enough.
Thank
you.