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From YouTube: County Board Work Session with Dominion Energy
Description
Arlington County Board Work Session:
Dominion Energy Streetlight
A
B
A
C
I,
this
is
being
broadcast,
it's
a
correct
hope,
okay
to
the
broader
Arlington
community.
The
first
thing
I
have
to
do
before
we
get
started
on
the
content
of
the
work
session
is
bring
Libby
into
this
through
the
remote
process
and
by
the
code.
I
believe
I'm
required
to
read
this
I've
been
notified
by
Libby
Garvey
that
she's
unable
to
attend
today's
meeting
because
of
a
temporary
disability
that
prevents
her
physically
attending
the
meeting
and
that
she
would
like
to
participate
by
phone
from
South
14th,
Street
Norrington.
C
This
is
allowed
by
law
and
the
board's
policy
and
arrangements
have
been
made
for
her
participation.
So
I'm
asking
the
clerk
to
record
Libby's
notification
in
the
minutes
of
today's
meeting
and
Libby
is
already
connected,
so
she'll
be
connected
monetarily,
but
will
have
all
five
board
members
here.
So.
C
C
Okay,
thanks
to
the
staff
for
helping
design,
this
work
session
and
Dominion
as
well
you're
a
significant
part
of
this.
It's
an
opportunity
today
to
spend
some
time
with
you
and
really
focus
on
a
number
of
questions,
you're
a
huge
player
across
the
Commonwealth,
and
certainly
here
in
Arlington.
As
you
know,
we
keep
this
community
moving
forward.
So
today,
some
of
the
goals
of
the
work
session
are
to
provide
an
overview
of
our
own
streetlight
program,
knowing
that
this
year
doing
a
budget
process
that
was
a
one
of
the
visible.
C
You
know
points
of
discussion,
adding
some
staff
to
that.
As
response
to
some
of
the
questions
in
the
community,
providing
information
from
you
all
from
Dominion
about
how
you
do
your
repairs
and
operate
and
maintain
this
streetlights
that
you
have
in
the
county,
which
is
the
majority
of
them,
providing
an
overview
on
the
process
to
convert
those
existing
Dominion
streetlights
to
LED
technology
in
the
county.
E
You,
mr.
chairman,
for
the
first
part
of
the
presentation
where
we
do
an
overview,
our
streetlight
program
and
go
through
some
of
the
we'll
be
covering
some
material
we've
already
covered
with
the
board
during
budget,
but
also
an
update
on
that
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Dennis
leach.
To
give
you
that
summary.
F
F
Then
followed
by
the
Dominion
Energy
presentation,
then
a
presentation
by
John
Morrell
of
staff
on
the
Bepko
agreement,
so
first
the
overview
of
the
county
streetlight
program.
We
have
roughly
19,000
streetlights
in
Arlington
and
that
portfolio
is
really
split
up
into
three
buckets.
You
can
see
that
the
county's
portion
of
that
portfolio
is
a
little
over
seventy
three
hundred
or
about
38%.
F
Vdot
has
a
very
small
portfolio
of
lights,
mostly
around
the
interstate
interchanges
and
then
the
majority
of
lights
as
chairman
that
reference
are
owned
and
managed
by
Dominion
roughly
eleven
thousand
two
hundred
streetlights
and
those
portfolios
are
intermixed.
So
in
places
like
the
Rosslyn
Boston
corridor,
the
majority
of
lights
or
Arlington
owned
and
maintained,
but
there
there
are
Dominion
lights
and
then,
as
you
get
further
out
into
the
neighborhoods,
the
balance
shifts
to
mostly
Dominion
ownership.
F
These
nuts,
the
next
couple
of
slides,
just
get
into
the
diversity.
This
is
Claridon
Boulevard,
most
of
the
lights
adjacent
to
our
site
plan.
Buildings
are
Arlington,
owned
and
maintained,
but
you
notice
the
D
in
the
median
of
Washington,
Boulevard
and
claritin.
Those
are
Dominion
lights,
so
you
may
have
two
different
ownerships
two
different
maintenance
regimes
on
the
same
street.
F
Shifting
now
to
another
part
of
Rosslyn
Boston
Quarter,
this
is
a
Fairfax
Drive
in
Ballston.
We
have
the
same
thing:
we
have
a
mix
on
Fairfax
Drive
of
both
County
owns,
maintained,
street
lights
and
our
mingles,
with
with
Dominion
stock
and
over
time
we've
accumulated
a
diversity
of
luminaire
and
pull
types
across
Arlington
and
Dominion.
F
F
And
we
have
briefed
the
board
before,
but
we
are
continuing
effort
on
a
street
like
management
plan.
This
is
a
plan
for
how
we
operate
and
maintain
and
invest
in
streetlights.
The
goal
of
this
plan
is
really
an
administrative
document
that
informs
our
decision-making
about
the
planning,
design,
operation
and
maintenance
of
street
lighting
in
Arlington.
F
F
We
have
established
a
community
stakeholders
working
group
to
provide
input
to
staff
on
this,
and
we
also
see
Dominion
as
a
key
stakeholder
that
we
will
be
working
with
going
forward
as
we
try
to
rationalize
this
portfolio
and
the
guiding
principles
for
our
SP
is
that
our
street
lighting
program
needs
to
be
safe,
sustainable,
compatible,
smart
maintainable
and
cost
effective,
and
some
of
these
principles
there's
a
tension.
So
it's
actually
getting
the
right
balance.
But
for
us,
as
staff
safety
is
paramount,
but
we
also
need
to
pay
attention
to
these
other
factors
as
well.
F
And
the
county
has
been
a
leader
both
in
the
region
and
nationally
on
LED
street
light
technology
deployment.
We
received
an
ARRA
grant
that
got
us
started
on
this
journey
and
have
had
a
generally
very
positive
experience
where
our
conversion
of
to
LED
has
yielded
really
substantial
maintenance
benefits,
fewer
maintenance
hours
to
support
those
lights,
much
lower
use
of
electricity
over
time
and
really
helps
the
county
meet
its
community
energy
goals.
F
And
then
I
also
want
to
touch
on
resources,
so
we
had
a
robust
conversation
about
the
maintenance
and
management
of
this
the
street
light
program.
Again.
This
is
really
targeted
at
the
slightly
over
1/3
38%
of
the
lights
that
are
arlington,
owned
and
maintained
that
we
were
not
meeting
community
expectations
given
our
staffing
levels.
So
what
we
have
here
is
what
the
consultant
YCJA
lee
recommended
out
of
the
SMP
study
effort.
F
The
board
did
approve
three
additional
staff
resources
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
and
and
those
are
our
moving
forward-
we're
going
to
be
filling
those,
hopefully
late
this
summer
and
some
other
supporting
assets
as
well,
and
the
whole
idea
behind
that
is
to
really
improve
the
overall
performance
of
the
street
lighting
system,
so
improve
response
time
to
deal
with
outages,
enhance
coordination
with
Dominion,
which
is
if
a
street
light
is
reported
out.
It
comes
through
our
system
and
then
we
are
in
turn
working.
Those
outages
cooperatively,
with
Dominion
every
site
plan.
F
Every
use
permit
has
a
streetlight
component,
which
means
we
need
engineering
capacity
to
do
the
effective
review,
timely
review
of
those
and
on
the
arlington
side
of
the
ledger.
Most
of
our
streetlights
are
have
underground
conduit
and
so
any
repairs.
A
replacement
of
underground
conduit
requires
engineering
expertise.
So
this
allows
us
to
improve
that
throughput
as
well,
and
then
it
you
see
at
the
bottom.
F
We
do
anticipate
substantial
reductions
in
in
response
times,
reducing
a
the
the
delay
for
responding
to
routine
outages,
cutting
that
in
half
and
a
fairly
dramatic
reduction
in
the
more
complicated
undergrounding,
outages
and
I
will
say.
As
we
get
to
the
Dominion
presentation,
we
track
things
a
little
differently
in.
F
How
a
particularly
in
that
second
bullet
of
the
undergrounding
work
and
then
I,
lastly,
want
to
touch
on
the
coordination,
and
the
coordination
is
substantial
and
ongoing.
We
have
regular
coordination
meetings
with
Dominion
where
we
track
response
times.
We
discuss
major
outages.
We
have
expedited
permitting
to
allow
Dominion
to
respond
in
a
more
timely
way.
F
We
will
be
engaging
Dominion
really
for
the
remainder
of
the
SMP
process,
given
this
split
of
streetlight
portfolio
between
Arlington
and
Dominion,
and
then
establishing
an
annual
review
process
for
our
entire
program
that
looks
at
both
county
and
ending
Dominion
outages.
And
lastly-
and
this
is
very
important
here
in
Arlington-
is
a
County
customer
service.
We
have
made
substantial
changes
in
that
residents
can
now
report
directly
to
the
county,
either
through
the
website
through
a
mobile
app
through
social
media,
media
or
walk-in.
F
So
we
take
all
of
those
formats
and
then
once
reported
staff
investigates
the
ownership.
Is
it
an
Arlington
Light,
the
Dominion
light
or
in
rare
occasions
of
VDOT
light,
and
if
it's
county
owned,
our
residents
can
track
the
request
and
now
receive
regular
updates.
If
it's
the
Dominion
own
light,
the
county
staff
inputs,
the
issue
into
Dominion
system
directly
and
I
will
just
reference.
We
were
able
to
complete
approximately
hundred
and
two
major
projects,
given
the
financial
resources,
the
board
provided
for
street
light
repairs,
and
then
you
can
see.
G
Good
afternoon
I'm
Scot
Rimi
external
affairs
manager,
with
Dominion
energy,
now
I've
been
assigned
to
a
Arlington
County
as
your
liaison
to
the
board.
So
if
you
guys
have
any
questions,
concerns
I
work
through
you
all
the
process
that
you
guys
have
put
in
place
with
me
to
interface
with
Shanna
Flanagan
Watson
has
been
working
great
and
so
I
can't
understate
how
how
good
of
a
relationship
we've
we've
had.
G
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
I've
been
in
this
role
for
about
a
year
now
than
with
Dominion
energy
for
eleven
years
now
and
I
know
a
little
bit
more
about
the
electrical
background.
So
if
you
guys
ever
want
to
talk
about,
you
know
anything
in
terms
of
Dominion
I'm
happy
to
to
sit
down
at
me
with
you.
All
with
me
is
Jerry
north
edge
she's.
Our
outdoor
lighting
program
manager
she's
been
with
the
company
for
23
years
current
role
for
six
years.
G
She
oversees
lighting
across
the
state
of
Virginia
and
North
Carolina,
so
she's
got
a
lot
of
expertise
under
her
belt.
She
has
got
a
background
in
design.
Reliability
in
operations
and
also
with
us,
is
Debra
Johnson
she's,
our
regional
policy
director
in
Northern
Virginia.
You
might
know
Debra
from
some
time
that
you
guys
had
spent
together.
She
was
previously
assigned
to
my
role
many
years
ago,
a
long
time
ago,.
G
So
she
served
on
community
energy
task
force,
she's
been
on
the
board
of
directors
for
our
Lincoln
Chamber,
our
Langston
Community
Foundation,
and
was
a
chair
of
leadership
Arlington.
So
between
and
I
forgot
to
mention,
I
lived
in
Arlington
for
four
years
as
well.
So
between
the
two
of
us
we've
we've
got
some
extent
extensive
knowledge
of
how
Arlington
works.
G
G
We've
had
several
working
prior
to
this
point,
and
everything
has,
as
has
gone
very
well
to
this
point,
whenever
the
county
needs
anything
we're
able
to
respond
and
whenever
we
need
something
the
county
is
able
to
respond.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
for
being
open
to
dialog.
All
the
time.
Today
we
will
Matt
plant
plan
on
talking
about
the
status
of
streetlights
in
Arlington
or
restoration
process,
LED
technology
and
customer
service,
but
to
get
started.
We
need
to
touch
on
some
of
the
contractual
relationships.
G
The
Dominion
Energy
shares
with
Arlington
County
through
vodka
and
I.
Don't
want
to
take
anything
away
from
John's
presentation
a
little
bit
later,
but
there
needs
to
be
some
baseline
understanding
of
what
that
guy
is.
So
we
will
get
started
with
that
presentation
should
take
about
20
minutes
and
you
can
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
questions
at
the
end.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Jerry
sure.
B
Sorry
got
it.
Thank
you
Scott
and
Scott
sated
I
know.
Mr.
Morrill
will
have
a
presentation
on
vodka
a
little
bit
later,
so
this
slide
really
is
just
an
introduction,
because
our
partnership
with
Arlington
as
it
pertains
to
streetlights,
is
governed
by
this
particular
agreement.
The
Virginia
energy
purchasing
governmental
association,
which
is
vodka,
was
organized
back
in
2002.
It
is
the
mechanism
by
which
we
bill
Virginia
municipalities.
B
It
has
all
of
the
terms
and
conditions
and
the
rates
associated
with
services
that
we
provide
to
vape
go
members
when
it
as
it
pertains
to
streetlights
service
standards.
Some
of
the
things
that
are
highlighted
in
that
portion
of
the
contract
would
be
the
the
way
outages
are
reported
and
Dominion
does
depend
on
our
customers,
whether
it's
your
residents,
citizens
of
the
county
or
Arlington
County
staff,
to
report
to
us
when
an
outage
is
out
and
I'd
say
that,
because
I
think
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
citizens
some
times.
B
That
think
that,
when
a
light
goes
out
that
we
know
about
it,
there's
some
electronic
process
technology
exists,
but
we
don't.
We
don't
have
that
technology
in
place
yet,
but
so
the
outage
report
actually
has
to
be
passed
on
to
us.
So
we
know
to
respond.
There
is
a
time
line
for
repairs,
also
memorialized
in
the
contract.
It's
different
based
on
the
type
of
repair,
that's
required.
B
There
are
multiple
types
of
repairs,
overhead
repairs,
underground
repairs
and
underground
replacements,
and
what
I'll
say
about
that
from
the
contract
is
that
we
have
those
certain
timelines
in
place
and
there
are
some
exceptions,
but
we
do
provide.
We
do
have
a
streetlight
reef
run
process
that
we
go
through
when
we
don't
meet
those
dates
so
again,
just
very
high-level
to
explain
the
relationship
between
Dominion
and
Arlington
County.
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
which
is
an
overview
of
performance.
B
We
looked
at
last
year's
performance
in
2016
and
you
can
see
the
pie
chart
to
the
right
kind
of
a
visual
of
of
that
performance
and
more
than
half
of
the
outages
reported
to
us
in
2016
we
complete
a
restoration
within
five
days.
More
than
80%
of
the
outages
reported
to
us
were
actually
restored.
Within
two
weeks
we
had
about
4%
of
streetlight
outages
reported
to
us
took
longer
than
45
days
to
restore,
and
there
are
some
extenuating
circumstances
at
times
that
do
lead
to
longer
duration,
streetlight
outages.
B
We
have
some
bulleted
items
up
there
just
to
touch
on
a
few
of
those.
If
there's
ongoing
construction
in
an
area
such
as
a
new
building
or
our
development
that
can
hinder
well.
First
of
all,
it
could
be
potentially
the
cause
of
an
outage.
It
also
could
hinder
our
ability
to
make
repairs
in
a
timely
fashion.
In
some
cases,
we
may
have
to
wait
until
that
construction
is
completed
before
we
can
restore
service
to
light.
B
Also,
we
do
have
some
situations
where
we
may
need
to
redesign
street
existing
street
light
feeds
based
on
redevelopment
or
road
improvements
when
there's
Road
widening
or
in
the
case
of
Arlington
County
they've
had
several
areas
that
have
been
completely
redeveloped,
that
have
changed
the
underground
infrastructure
and
our
ability
to
maintain
the
infrastructure
in
place.
So
what
redesign
has
to
take
place?
Is
we
do
work?
We
do
have
a
engineering
department
that
will
look
at
that
look
for
a
new
source
and
essentially,
basically,
we
may
be
running
all
new
facilities
to
those
existing
streetlight
locations.
B
That
can
be
a
timely
process
as
well
working
alongside
developers
and
also
our
county
partners.
To
to
make
that
happen.
Some
of
the
outages
do
require
specialized
crews.
Those
specialized
crews
have
a
volume
of
work
that
is
scheduled
to
them,
so
they
that
can
add
to
the
timeline.
What
we
experienced
have
experienced
a
lot
in
recent
years.
Inside-The-Beltway
has
been
streetlight
outages
as
a
result
of
third-party
damage
and,
if
you
think
about
our
streetlight
facilities
that
are
in
public
right-of-way,
all
of
the
underground
facilities
are
in
a
very
vulnerable
location.
B
Some
of
the
facilities
have
been
in
place
in
place
for
quite
some
time,
not
all
are
protected
by
a
conduit
and
even
so
development
a
lot
of
times
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
in
conduit
or
not.
You
have
that
opportunity
for
damage
and
outages
and
that's
with
other
utilities,
doing
work
such
as
five
or
installation
in
the
redevelopment
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
It
just
really
gives
that
opportunity
for
for
damage
those
can
be
more
complicated,
repair
restoration
process
for
those
types
of
projects
they
may
require
new
installation
of
underground,
cable
and
permitting
requirements,
etc.
B
B
So
if,
in
the
case
of
the
technology
we're
going
to
get
into
technology
on
another
slide,
but
right
now,
the
technology
that
we
install
is
sodium.
Vapor
technology,
the
old
technology
was
mercury
vapor.
If
a
mercury
vapor
fixture
when
we're
performing
these
health
checks,
if
the
bulb
doesn't
make
the
fixture
come
on,
if
the
fixtures
failed,
we
will
bring
that
back
in-house
and
come
back
out
and
replace
that
with
a
sodium
vapor
fixture
I'll
move
on
to
the
next.
B
There
are
sometimes
some
misconceptions
when
a
light
goes
out
from
some
residents
that
may
have
only
the
context
of
a
light
going
out
in
their
house
where
they
change
a
bulb
in
our
case
for
our
streetlights
that
are
in
public
right
away.
There
are
multiple
facilities
that
feed
these
lights
and
there
are
multiple
opportunities
for
failure
at
any
given
time
for
any
one
of
those
lights.
So
the
way
that
process
works
and
I'll
give
an
example.
B
And
again
this
is
the
majority
of
the
lights
that
we
respond
to
more
than
50%
of
what
we
respond
to.
We
go
out
with
a
with
one
of
our
first
responders
and
if
it's
just
a
bulb
or
a
photocell,
that's
failed.
We
make
that
repair
right
on-site
and
that
project
is
completed.
Restorations
complete,
so
you
do
have
the
majority
of
lights
that
first
time
we're
out
there
we're
able
to
fix
it.
Take
another
example:
in
the
case
of
a
first
responder
identifying
that
it's
not
the
bulb,
it's
not
the
photocell,
it's
not
the
fixture.
B
It's
an
underground
issue,
then
that
project
comes
back
in
for
specialized
underground
repair
crew,
I'm
scheduled
to
that
crew.
We
send
it
out
if
that
underground,
repair
crew
is
not
able
to
be
successful
with
repairs,
it
could
be
that
the
cables
too
damaged
and
we
identify
that
it
needs
to
be
replaced.
B
That's
a
different
set
of
equipment,
a
different
type
of
crew,
so
we
end
up
having
to
schedule
that
to
one
of
our
cable
replacement,
crews,
who
returns
to
replace
the
cable
and
immediately
after
that,
typically,
within
a
week
after
that
works
completed,
we
have
a
another
set
of
resources
that
will
come
out
and
actually
make
the
connections
to
energize
that
so
just
a
explanation
of
how
it's
and
I'll
touch
on
this
too.
It
was
part
of
that
process.
There
there
oftentimes
permit
applications
involved.
B
We
work
with
the
county
to
get
the
appropriate
permits
and
that
can
can
be
a
piece
of
the
of
the
timeline
as
well.
So
you
have
some
projects
that
may
take
just
a
few
days,
other
projects
that
may
carry
on
for
weeks
and
that's
not
considering
any
extenuating
circumstances
if
we
have
any
obstacles
that
prevent
us
from
being
able
to
to
work
through
each
piece
of
that
process.
B
Those
are
small
amount,
as
mentioned
on
the
previous
slide,
less
than
four
percent
actually
past
the
45-day
mark
for
restoration,
but
the
reason
we
mentioned,
that
is
those
are
typically
probably
the
ones
that
the
county
and
Dominion
getting
that
get
receives
inquiries
about
throughout
the
year
if
their
long-term
outages-
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
talking
about
those
things.
So
some
of
the
process,
improvements,
we've
implemented
recently
and
Dennis-
touched
on
it
quarterly
updates
with
the
county.
B
So
we
have
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
county
staff
when
it
comes
to
streetlights
and
discussing
that,
if
there's
any
long-term
outages
that
are
that
are
past,
that
duration,
that
most
would
find
acceptable.
Those
are
the
projects
that,
on
a
quarterly
basis,
we're
going
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
in
depth
we're
going
to,
and
we
already
have,
we've
actually
implemented.
We
had
a
first
quarter
meeting
and
we
have
a
second
quarter
meeting
scheduled
where
we
can
talk
through
each
of
those
projects.
B
What's
transpired
with
the
project,
what
status
it's
in,
what
are
some
of
the
challenges,
and
what
that
does
is
you
know
not
residents
that
have
streetlights
that
are
out?
We
understand.
We
understand
that.
There's
concern
there
and
we
don't
want
to
delay
restoration
any
more
than
is
necessary.
So
what
that
does
is
at
least
gives
information
and
some
context
so
that
the
county,
the
county,
ends
up
receiving
any
inquiries
about
those
particular
lights.
They
can
speak
to
the
situation,
give
a
status
update
and
then
also
in
turn,
communicate
back
with
us
at
Dominion.
B
If
there
are
any
of
those
long-term
outages
that
that
they
that
we
need
to
work
together
on
to
try
to
expedite
as
much
as
possible
again,
none
of
these
projects
go
on
any
backburner.
It's
just
a
matter
of
making
sure
we're
doing
the
right
thing
and
working
through
the
right
process
so
that
we
can
provide
reliable
service
once
those
lights
are
restored
and
that
we're
doing
it
safely
as
well.
B
B
They
also
have
a
relationship
with
the
county
from
a
permitting
perspective
and
from
understanding
the
design
piece
and,
and
they
can
give
their
expertise
to
try
to
move
the
project
along
a
little
bit
quicker
and
ensure
that
what
we're
doing
is
going
to
get
the
lights
restored
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
internally,
we've
been
utilizing
that
group
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we
had
in
the
past.
The
third
bullet
up
there
for
process
improvement
is
something
Dennis
touched
on
as
well.
B
B
B
Internally,
we
developed
a
steering
committee
late
last
year.
We
kicked
it
off
and
the
purpose
of
that
steering
committee
is
to
establish
a
road
map.
If
you
will
for
what
our
program,
what
our
program
at
Dominion
for
LED
should
look
like
going
forward.
One
of
the
things
that
our
steering
committee
has
already
has
already
done.
It
will
probably
continue
to
do.
Is
we
do
solicit
input
from
municipal
customers?
In
fact,
Arlington
County
was
one
of
the
customers
that
we
had
solicited
input
from
for
the
steering
committee.
B
We
are
in
the
process
of
reviewing
our
current
offerings,
such
as
the
sodium-vapor
offerings
that
are
that
exists
right
now
and
also
exploring
any
future
LED
offerings.
We
currently
offer
two
different
fixtures
for
LED,
a
roadway
fixture,
which
is
sometimes
called
a
Cobra
style
fixture,
and
you
see
that
up
in
the
top
right
hand,
side
illustrated
there.
B
It
comes
in
a
few
different
sizes
and
then
also
a
decorative
option
very
similar
to
what
Arlington
County
the
type
of
type
of
post
top
street
lights
that
Arlington
County
has
installed
throughout,
and
that
would
be
the
the
Carlisle
acorn.
It's
a
decorative
acorn
LED
fixture
post
top
pictured
on
the
bottom
right
there.
B
We
we
do
have
a
conduct
internally
at
Dominion,
a
biannual
review
of
our
le
rates,
the
LED
rates
that
we
offer
right
now
for
those
two
fixtures
are
in
the
current
vodka
contract
and
part
of
the
last
contract.
Negotiations
did
include
a
biannual
review
and,
and
what
that
means
is
we
had
agreed
to
not
wait
the
full
four
years
between
contract
terms
that,
after
just
two
years,
we
would
go
and
look
at
the
rates
and
do
a
cost
of
service
evaluation
to
determine
if
there
was
any
opportunity
to
change
those
rates.
B
The
rate
itself
that
we
provide
that
sits
in
vodka
does
include
a
maintenance
material
and
the
labor
to
maintain
all
of
the
street
lights.
It
does
include
some
sort
of
replacement
component,
so
it
considers
that
over
a
number
of
years,
we'll
have
to
replace
a
certain
number
of
poles.
Certain
amount
of
cable,
small
component
of
the
rate,
but
the
it's
in
there
is
the
actual
energy
that
the
streetlights
use.
B
That
was
in
the
field.
That
applies
to
conversions
only
for
new
installations.
It's
the
it's!
It's
a
it's
a
different
rates,
different
rate
schedule
or
not
a
different
rate
schedule,
but
a
different
rate
structure,
but
the
the
conversions
to
have
some
sort
of
a
an
incentive
with
that
decreased
rate
in
2018
and
and
John
Murrell
will
probably
get
into
this
more
with
his
presentation.
B
Sorry,
John
that
we
just
wanted
to
identify
that
there
I
know
there
are
some
questions
from
the
county
about
our
LED
program
or
our
offerings,
and
those
are
all
things
that
are
going
to
be
on
the
table
with
the
upcoming
negotiations,
such
as
conversion
rate
right
now.
If
you
convert
to
LED,
even
though
you
may
receive
a
lower
monthly
rate,
you
have
to
have
that
upfront
capital
to
pay
Dominion
to
go
out
and
actually
do
the
work
to
to
convert
the
light.
B
The
physical
work
to
convert
the
light
and
there's
a
material
component
to
that
there's
a
labor
component
to
that
there
is
not
a
flat
rate
offering
for
that
conversion
at
this
time.
So
that's
something
that
I
can
see
being
considered
in
future
for
future
contracts,
but
I
don't
have
any
more
information
than
that
at
this
time.
B
And
Dennis
also
talked
about
a
very
important
piece
of
of
street
light.
Our
street
light
program
and
the
county
street
light
program
would
be
the
customer
service
piece
like
what
it.
What
is
your?
What
is
the
experience
for
your
citizens
and
we've
made
some
significant
upgrades
in
our
customer
service
for
street
lights
in
recent
years?
B
Specifically,
what
I'll
touch
on
here
is
is
our
outage
reporting
for
residents,
as
well
as
our
webpage
and
web
content
just
a
few
short
years
ago.
If
you
went
into
dominions
online
system,
if
you
went
to
our
website
and
typed
in
streetlight
outages
or
lighting
outages,
there
was,
and
there
was
no
content.
So
that's
why
I
say:
we've
made
some
significant
changes
where
we
actually
have
a
full
webpage,
with
lots
of
detailed
information,
first
and
foremost
for
the
county
customer
such
arlington
county
themselves.
B
We
do
offer
a
streetlight
outage
reporting
system-
that's
not
available
to
the
public,
but
that's
that's
the
the
system
where
the
county
can
actually
see
all
of
the
map
of
all
of
the
lights
in
the
locations.
There
was
a
visual
put
up
by
dennis
earlier.
That
was
the
arlington
county
map
and
the
the
Dominion
streetlight
outage.
Reporting
system
has
only
dominion
street
lights
on
it,
but
by
clicking
on
a
light
to
report
a
light
outage,
it
creates
an
immediate
work
request.
B
That's
then
immediately
available
for
dispatch
to
our
first
responders
for
your
for
your
citizens
here
for
residential
customers
or
even
commercial
customers.
They
can
actually,
they
can
call
us
if
they
want
to
report
an
outage
and
our
customer
service
line,
or
they
can
use
a
web
form
that
we
have
online
on
webpage
on
our
website
that
to
email
us
the
outage,
and
we
asked
them
to
provide
a
certain
amount
of
information
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we
find
and
fix
the
right
light
a
lot
of
times
when
we
have
elevated
inquiries
for
streetlight
outages.
B
When
we
investigate
we
find
out
that
we
didn't
necessarily
get
enough
information
to
find
the
right
light.
There
are
lots
of
street
lights,
and
if
someone
calls
in
and
says,
there's
a
streetlight
out
on
George
Mason
Drive,
it's
obviously
not
going
to
be
enough
information.
If
they
give
a
little
bit
more
information,
then
we
may
end
up
at
the
wrong
light
anyway.
So
we
do
ask
specific,
pointed
questions
whether
it's
on
the
web
form
or
whether,
if
they
call
us
our
call
center
agents,
ask
specific
information
to
make
sure
we're
going
to
be
successful.
B
The
last
thing
we
want
is
to
go
out
respond
and
have
that
citizen
think
we
never
did
anything,
because
we
didn't
ever
find
and
fix
the
right
light.
So
excuse
me
so
on
our
web
page.
We
also
have
now
included
some
photos
of
the
poll
number
so
that
they
can
maybe
more
easily
identify
information
that
we
would
need.
B
Is
that
sometimes,
when
we're
out
at
these
street
lights,
doing
this
first
response
work
it's
at
night
and
folks
are
sleeping
and
they
may
come
out
the
next
day
and
that
night,
the
lights
not
working,
and
they
think
no
one's
been
they
when
they
see
a
this
whole
rap.
On
the
pole,
at
least
it
lets
them
know,
we've
actually
made
a
response.
We
know
that
the
light
is
still
out
and
they
can
see
if
they
look
closely
at
it.
B
B
So
they
can
see
overhead
repairs
typically
are
going
to
take
a
certain
amount
of
time.
There's
also
information
on
that
page
about
inclement
weather
situations
that
that
can
sometimes,
if
we're
in
the
middle
or
just
following
a
major
storm
that
that
can
tack
on
some
additional
time
times
of
high
volume
of
outages.
You
know
we
sometimes
do
that
timeline
can
be
extended,
underground,
repair,
same
thing,
that
it
gives
some
information
about
that
now
the
yellow
pole,
wrap
would
be.
C
You
very
much
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
is
take
the
third
presentation
and
then
once
everything's
out
there.
Maybe
this
will
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
people
may
have
so
we'll
just
go
through
all
three.
Thank
you
very
much
and
then
open
it
up
to
the
board.
Ask
questions
about
anything.
So
thank
you.
H
The
it's
a
mouthful,
the
Virginia
energy
purchasing
governmental
Association.
So
it
is
a
joint
powers
association
that
was
formed
in
2002
following
over
two
decades
of
a
less
formal
joint
committee
between
vml
and
Vaiko,
and
that
committee
had
negotiated
terms
and
conditions
and
rates
with
Dominion.
It
was
that
that
committee
was
started
in
the
70s
with
the
energy
crisis
in
the
uncertainty,
uncertainties
then,
and
then
in
2002
was
when
deregulation
and
retail
choice
came
to
Virginia,
and
so
as
a
bloc
of
municipalities,
public
bodies.
It
was
decided
that
well
we
needed.
H
We
needed
a
structure
if,
if
we
were
going
to
compete
for
for
power
services
and
so
forth,
long
story
short
on
that
is
that
Virginia
has
reregulate
'add
in
2007
and
so
we're
not
going
out
and
purchasing
power
in
a
competitive
market.
But
this
vodka
organization
is
still
very
much
engaged
with
Dominion
in
terms
of
rates
in
terms
and
conditions.
H
My
slide
says:
172
members
of
various
public
bodies,
Jerry's,
had
171
pleased
to
report
that
King
George
County
Schools
is
now
a
member
of
vodka
and
I
pulled
from
the
web
Cabaye
laws
to
give
you
a
sense
of
of
this
entity,
so
the
members
formed
of
Epke
to
further
their
economic
interests
in
the
aggregation
and
procurement
of
electricity
supply,
electricity,
delivery
and
other
energy
related
services.
So
again
it
was.
It
was
anticipating
a
competitive
procurement
of
power,
but
it
is
still
broader
than
that.
H
Just
as
a
point
of
information,
I
wanted
to
illustrate
Dominions
retail
service
territory,
while
Dominion
has
transmission
facilities
and
generating
facilities
throughout
the
state.
The
actual
retail
service
of
electricity
is
in
yellow
here
and
so
you'll
see
that
it's
it's
predominantly
in
Northern
Virginia,
outside
Washington,
in
the
Richmond
Capital
Area
and
in
Tidewater,
and
so
the
retail
service
delivery
is,
is
really
along.
The
urban
and
suburban
corridors.
H
H
That
budget
is
is
used
for
legal
counsel,
Christian
and
Barton
is
legal
counsel
to
vodka
and
they've
been
providing
services
for
a
number
of
years.
Technical
consultants
who
advise
us
on
and
really
go
into
the
the
rate
making
process
and
and
provide
a
thorough
review
and
of
the
rates
and
calculations
used,
and
then
the
organization
also
serves
a
valuable
peer
exchange.
Network
we
have
an
annual
meeting
in
May
and
and
and
gather
there
in
addition
to
quarterly
board
meetings,
the
quarterly
board
meetings
are
typically
in
Henrico,
County,
the
board
of
directors
and
I'm.
H
One
I've
been
on
the
board
for
a
number
of
years.
We
consist
of
14
members.
The
organization
is
authorized
for
15,
so
we
have
one
vacancy
right.
Now
we
are
conscious
of
maintaining
geographic
diversity
among
the
board
between
the
three
major
service
territories
within
the
Dominion
territory
that
are
served
and
I'd
mentioned
that
electricity
sales
to
veca
members
are
about
6%
of
Dominions
to
load,
and
so
it's
a
not
insignificant
chunk
of
dominions.
Customer
base.
H
Another
reason
for
this
organization
to
exist
and
and
work
through
this
agreement
structure
with
Dominion
is
simply
because
local
governments
are
a
little
different
from
your
your
basic
residential
or
commercial
customer.
In
that
we
have
easements,
we
have
streetlights,
we
have
construction,
we
have
pump
stations,
we
have
critical
facilities,
and
so
we
inform
Dominion
of
critical
facilities,
and
then
they
have
priority
for
restoration
and
so
forth.
So
there
is
a
it's
an
important
institutional
role.
H
Move
forward,
Virginia
Municipal
League
serves
as
the
administrative
agent
and
and
they
provide
the
secretary,
and
so
it's
it's.
It's
a
it's
a
Coalition
of
the
Willing
on
the
board.
The
board
the
board
tends
to
be
tends
to
reflect
the
the
more
populous
jurisdictions
in
the
in
all
those
areas.
When
Veco
was
first
formed
and
including
back
to
the
vml
Vaco
committee,
the
board
was
I,
might
characterize
it
as
largely
procurement,
folks,
general
services,
folks,
and
even
maybe
one
or
two
city
or
county
attorneys,
with
the
rising
professionalization
of
energy
management
in
low
Calla
t's.
H
H
H
It
was
estimated
that
the
the
rates
that
we
entered
into
in
2018
we're
going
to
save
members
about
thirty
six
million
dollars
a
year
across
the
entire
block,
the
aggregate
of
Epke
members.
Due
to
these
these
factors
and
this
negotiated
agreement.
Of
course,
the
actual
savings
year
to
year
will
depend
upon
year-to-year
changes
in
weather
and
and
SEC
decisions
on
what
happens
to
those
rates
and
so
forth.
H
Again,
the
the
agreement-
the
green
greement
here,
it's
it's
not
it's
not
a
brief
memo.
It.
It
consists
of
rate
schedules
for
small,
medium
and
large
accounts
by
energy
use,
includes
rate
schedules
specific
to
streetlights
and
pump
stations.
It
includes
a
rate
schedule
for
vodka
for
certified
Green
Power,
which
arlington
participates
in
includes
rate
schedules
for
specialty.
Applications
of
very
very,
very
large
accounts
larger
than
what
we
use.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
enjoy
that
writers
for
various
capital
expenditures,
and
these
are
the
same
writers
that
apply
to
the
residential
and
commercial
customers.
H
H
The
process
toward
the
2018
agreement,
a
negotiating
committee,
consists
of
the
vet
co-chair
and
vice
chair,
and
then
legal
counsel
and
technical
consultants,
this
fall
and
winter
or
this
fall.
Dominion
is
expected
to
send
vodka
an
initial
offer
for
the
next
period
of
time.
Along
with
supporting
cost
information,
vodka
will
then
send
Dominion
some
items
that
don't
have
to
do
with
revenue,
specifically
my
concern
terms
and
conditions,
streetlights,
renewable
energy
access
and
so
forth,
and
then,
through
the
winter
and
spring
into
next
year.
H
The
exchanges
between
each
side
continues
with
examination
of
materials
and
probing
for
understandings
and
and
and
this
exchange
continues
until
an
agreement
is
reached.
The
the
vet
qey
negotiating
team
is
in
frequent
contact
with
the
entire
board
and
keeps
membership
informed.
What,
as
for
street
lights?
Much
of
this
has
been
covered
by
the
previous
two
speakers.
H
H
We
have
a
joint
action
committee
that
meets
quarterly.
This
includes
it's
a
forum
of
both
Dominion
staff
and
vo
member
staff.
To
address
systemic
operational
concerns,
individual
jurisdiction
issues.
We
try
to
resolve
jurisdiction
by
jurisdiction,
Ruki
account
managers,
but
then
for
for
larger
issues
of
concern
to
more
than
one
jurisdiction.
We
take
it
to
the
joint
action
committee
for
resolution,
and
so
a
number
of
issues
have
been
addressed
effectively
in
that
forum
and.
C
A
C
C
C
I
K
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
so
just
a
kind
of
a
statistical
question
and
then
looking
into
the
future
so
right
now
the
statistics
show
that
dominion,
Virginia
Power,
has
about
eleven
thousand
two
hundred
streetlights
in
the
county.
Although
on
your
chart
it
looks
like
it
might
be
a
little
higher
11600.
Is
there
a
reason
for
that
discrepancy
at
all
I.
K
Okay,
okay,
so
and
then
the
county
at
about
seventy
350
and
VDOT
at
about
600.
If
you
go
back
and
look
at
the
budget
pages
from
this
spring
and
mr.
Schwartz
feel
free
to
chime
in
here
as
well,
there's
been
a
steady
upward
trend
in
county
owned
streetlights,
going
from
73
50
and
fiscal
16
to
a
projected
7850,
so
an
increase
of
about
five
hundred
over
two
years.
K
The
peak
appears
to
have
been
in
fiscal
2015
11800
dropping
by
about
800
over
the
last
three
years
down
to
about
11,000.
My
question
is:
do
you
expect
that
trend
to
continue,
and
why
and
do
we
have
any
particular
concerns
about
that
trend
in
terms
of
administration
cost
and
that
type
of
thing?
What
are
the
implications
and
takeaways
from
that
trend?
Okay,
what.
F
Is
really
feeding
into
that
trend?
Is
all
the
site
plan
use
permit
work
in
a
county
along
with
major
county
capital
projects
on
corridors?
So
any
time
a
block
is
redeveloped
that
converts
the
Dominion
portfolio
over
2
to
2
County
owned
and
metered
streetlights,
and
our
current
requirement
is
for
all
those
lights
to
be
led
all
the
utilities
to
be
under
grounded
when
we
do
major
capital
construction.
Where
we're
rebuilding
a
an
arterial
Street,
we
will
often
as
well
underground
the
utilities
and
then
convert
to
county
infrastructure.
F
We
are
looking
at
all
of
that
as
part
of
the
SNP,
which
is
what
is
the
right
mix
between
Dominion
lights
and
county
lights,
the
majority
of
the
lights
in
the
Metro
corridors
and
on
Columbia
Pike
or
at
this
point
County,
but
we
still
have
as
I
showed
in
my
graphic
some
blending
and
that
creates
I.
Think
some
challenges
for
both
of
us,
but
it's
very
much
a
subject
that
we're
looking
into
what
does
this
portfolio
for
both
of
us
look
like
in
5-10
years?
What's
the
right
split
so
so.
K
Mr.
leach,
if
I
could
just
have
a
follow-up
question
for
you
or
mr.
Schwartz,
what
are
that?
What
are
the
economic
and
cost
implications
of
that
I
mean?
Is
this
going
to
be
because
we'll
be
taking
over
or
the
percentage
accruing
to
the
county
will
be
higher
and
higher
with
each
passing
year
as
a
result
of
development
and
other
trends,
does
that
inevitably
also
mean
a
higher
cost
to
the
county
as
opposed
to
V
dot
or
ro
DVP?
K
F
It's
it.
The
picture
is
somewhat
mixed.
So
whenever
you
have
an
increasing
inventory,
that's
an
increased
footprint
that
you
have
to
maintain.
You
can
offset
some
of
those
costs
drivers
by
making
sure
that
your
utility
undergrounding
details
are
good,
that
you
have
your
that
you're
using
conduit
you're,
not
direct
bearing
cable
you're,
putting
that
cable
and
the
right
conduit
in
the
right
place.
So
it's
not
cut
and
then
we
as
a
county
have
chosen
led
because
the
energy
consumption,
both
with
that
technology
and
the
ability
to
dim
it.
F
We
were
able
to
cut
our
electric
use
by
as
much
as
80%,
and
we
also
get
a
benefit
that
the
LED
luminaire
lasts.
Much
longer.
A
high
pressure
sodium
bulb
generally
lasts
about
five
years.
Some
of
them
can
last
longer
our
first
LEDs
that
have
been
deployed
back
in
2009.
Many
of
them
are
still
in
good
working
condition,
and
we
expect
that
to
continue
right
now.
The
LED
life
cycle
is
anywhere
from
16
to
18
years,
so
that's
lower
maintenance
cost
of
having
to
go
out
and
real
amp
fixtures.
F
F
L
Mr.
chair
I'll
actually
pick
up
on
this
with
it
with
my
question,
so
mr.
leach,
as
we
think
about
the
LEDs
that
we've
had
online,
have
we
tracked
any
failure
rates.
I
mean
one
of
the
one
of
the
only
sort
of
downsides
to
LEDs
they're
susceptible
to
heat
buildup,
and
if
you,
if
the
heat
sinks
fail,
you
can
have
the
the
light
fail
at
a
substantial
investment.
Do
we
track
the
failure
rate
of
these
knowing
full
well
that
when
they
work
they
achieve
all
of
the
the
headline
savings
and
benefits
you
mentioned
our.
F
Experience
has
been,
we've
had
very
good
performance
and
we're
putting
very
little
wear
and
tear
on
our
LED
streetlights,
particularly
when
we
implemented
dimming,
and
that
you
know
for
much
of
the
night
we're
operating
our
LED
fixtures
at
at
only
thirty
twenty
to
five
to
thirty
percent
of
the
of
the
output,
typical
output,
and
so
that
is
a
in
effect
extending
the
life
and
durability
of
that
fixture
through
through
technology.
We
also
have
an
ability
to
track
those
lights,
whether
they're
on
and
functioning
remotely
through
through
radio
transmission.
C
J
Is
muttering
over
here
to
the
chair?
I?
Actually,
don't
have
any
questions
about
the
streetlights,
because
I
think
the
conversation
has
been
so
comprehensive.
I
can't
guarantee
that
I
won't
have
follow-up
questions
when
we
hear
from
one
of
those
four
percent
of
residents
in
the
future,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
look.
Would
love
to
take
the
opportunity
to
just
ask
for
John.
J
H
H
There's
there
have
been
times
when
it
things
that
are
considered
non
core
to
vodka
have
been
taken
up
as
a
subset
of
Epke.
An
example
is
back.
In
2005,
we
began
purchasing
renewable
energy
credits,
which,
back
at
the
time,
were
a
very
novel
thing,
and
that
was
an
encore
activity
undertaken
by
some
members
of
the
vodka
Association,
including
at
the
time
Alexandria,
schools
and
carfax
County
along
with
Arlington,
and
so
this
is
something
that
there
is
interest
among
some
members
and
and
it's
something
that
I
think
is
it's
rapidly
evolving.
D
D
And
I
just
like
to
have
the
dominion
power
people
just
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this
issue
of
LED
lights.
We,
you
know,
we've
changed
and
realized
quite
large
savings
and
kind
of
presentation.
I
think
there
was
a
remark
that
there
wasn't
that
much
savings,
or
they
didn't
see
that
much
and
switching
the
lights,
I
guess,
because
you
have
to
change
the
whole
light,
but
I
certainly
have
to
do
that
too.
D
I'm,
not
quite
sure
why
we
seem
to
be
seeing
large
savings
switching
to
LED
in
and
the
main
power
seems
not
to
see
that
and
then
I
would
like
to
also
hear
they're
just
their
general
overall
goal
for
the
state
on
LED
lights,
because
apparently
they're
only
300.
Now
that
you
have
I'm
just
it
just
seems
to
be
a
mismatch.
D
B
I'll,
take
that
one
one
of
the
things
that
I'll
mention
at
first
about
our
LED
program
is
what
we
do
offer
is
offered
to
vodka
members,
and
it
does
require
that
vodka
members
requests
those
upgrades.
So
you
know
if
we
have
the
requests
we
upgrade.
If
we
don't,
we
don't
that
really
drives
the
installation
of
LEDs
on
our
system,
but
I
will
go
a
little
bit
further
on
that.
Just
to
kind
of
answer.
B
Some
of
your
questions
about
the
savings
from
a
Arlington
County
standpoint
for
metered
streetlights
you're,
paying
Dominion
for
usage
only
through
that
meter,
essentially
you're.
The
primary
piece
of
your
bill
is
usage,
so
you
can
realize
savings
with
those
LED
installations,
because
it's
a
more
energy-efficient
light
than
what
you
may
have
installed
on
meter
applications
previously
for
Dominion.
The
rates
that
we
offer
to
our
customers
for
LED
are
more
for
the
maintenance
of
the
entire
streetlight
installation.
It's
not
as
much
the
energy
savings
piece
for
us
is
off-peak
for
us
energy
from
an
energy
perspective.
B
So
it's
just
a
different
model.
It's
just
from
a
government
perspective
installing
your
own
metered
lights
and
contracting
with
Dominion
to
install
utility
owned
maintained
lights.
It's
just
a
completely
different
financial
model
from
a
Dominion
perspective
in
our
and
right
now,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
a
steering
committee
looking
very
closely
at
how
we
move
forward
with
our
LED
program.
What
we're
we're
you
know.
B
So
they
really
didn't
have
a
choice
but
to
be
early
adopters
and
what
we
found
with
benchmarking,
with
those
utilities
who
were
early
adopters
of
LED,
is
that
they
experienced
some
significant
challenges
with
and
to
your
point
earlier,
with
failure
rates
of
those
early
iterations.
In
some
cases
inferences
we
did
pilot
programs.
Arlington
County
took
advantage
of
one
of
our
pilot
programs
back
in
2010,
where
we
installed
across
the
state
about
10
different
locations,
10
different
municipalities,
different
manufacturers
of
LED,
just
to
get
a
feel
for
it
just
to
track
performance.
B
Most
of
those
LED
lights
did
have
very
good
performance
and
and
still
do
that
exist
to
this
day,
however,
we
did
notice
that
there
were
none
of
those
lights
are
being
manufactured
today
they
are
all
in
their
3rd
4th
5th
12th
model.
The
technology
continues
to
evolve.
We
did
have
one
installation
of
a
number
of
lights
where
we
had
a
really
high
failure
rate
and
that
company
that
manufactures
those
particular
lights
is
no
longer
in
business.
B
So
that's
what
we
found
with
our
benchmarking,
with
some
other
utilities,
is
that
they
had
some
struggles
by
being
an
early
adopter.
That
they
were
taken
advantage
of
technology
when
it
was
very
new.
It's
not
as
new
as
it
used
to
be.
It
does
continue
to
evolve.
It
does
continue
to
come
down
in
price
and
become
more
efficient
and
and
in
performance
is
improved.
So
we
feel
right
now
at
Dominion.
It's
a
really
good
time
to
work
in
conjunction
with
Epke
and
our
other
customers
outside
of
Epke
to
establish
that
path
forward
for
LED.
B
We
do
see
that
as
future
lighting
technology,
especially
as
the
sodium-vapor
technology
is,
is
going
to
continue
to
be
driven
out
of
the
market
as
well.
Just
like
metal
halide,
we
just
weren't
forced
into
early
adoption,
because
sodium
vapor
there's
no
regulations.
Currently
that's
its
forces
or
what's
going
to
force.
That
out,
though,
is
the
on
the
continued
demand
for
LED
it'll,
be
just
more
supply.
Demand
than
federal
regulation.
I
understand
that
okay.
D
Thank
you
guys
that
helps
a
bit
I,
just
and
I'm
glad
you're
continuing
to
look
at
it.
I
understand
the
difficulties
of
being
an
early
adopter.
You
know
maybe
having
some
likes
that
didn't
work
so
well,
but,
as
you
mentioned,
there
seems
to
be
quite
a
lot
of
history
on
and
again
I.
It
seems
that
that
you
save
a
lot
of
electricity
and
that
your
experiences,
electricity
savings
will
be
the
same
as
ours
and
I
would
think
that
would
being
everybody's
interest.
Thank
you.
Oh.
M
It
just
adds
is
a
point,
a
data
point
to
just
emphasize
what
Jerry's
saying
we
are
cost
savings
at
dentists,
as
it
related
to
is
in
the
retail
rates
through
the
velcro
contractors,
between
nine
ten
cent,
a
kilowatt
hour
and
their
price
that
they
are
allocating
towards.
This
is
probably
likely
below
three
cent
a
kilowatt
hour
for
energy,
so
it's
it's
a
very
significant
difference
on
how
we're
pricing
energy
and
how
we
have
to
pay
for
energy
from
the
two
perspective.
C
That's
something
I
need
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
because
I'm
going
to
follow
up
on
Libby's
question
and
and
my
first
question,
which
I
cut
myself
short
on
so
out
of
your
say
two
or
three
hundred
thousand
lights
across
the
Commonwealth
right.
That's
about
what
you
have
about.
300
have
been
converted,
it's
in
three
two
thousand
sixteen
or
seventeen.
C
So
on
the
face
of
it,
it's
just
hard
to
look
at
Arlington,
having
done
85
percent
of
our
lights
and
you
having
done
point,
one
percent
of
the
lights
agree
with
early-adopter
fine,
but
you
know
iPhones
have
evolved
to,
but
we
still
had
one
and
then
you
replace
them,
and
you
know
you
keep
replacing
and
getting
better
and
better
I.
Think
it's
fair
to
say
across
the
country
in
the
world.
C
C
Now
is
the
right
time
and
I
appreciate
that,
because
now
is
the
right
time,
it's
a
little
late,
but
better
late
than
never,
because
now
you'll
get
even
the
better
technologies
right
and
we're
all
going
to
be
really
involved
in
watching
what's
going
on
with
Epke.
But
can
you
help
me
understand,
and
maybe
you
just
tried
to
do
it
Mike,
but
I'm,
a
little
dense
on
this?
C
The
financial
model
is
different
for
a
locality
versus
Dominion
I.
Don't
if
you
could
put
that
in
layman's
terms.
For
me,
what
does
that
mean
because
I
know
our
financial
model
is
what's
cost
upfront?
What's
the
operating
and
maintenance,
what's
the
out
your
savings
or
cost
and
the
cost
of
electricity,
since
our
goal
would
be
to
reduce
the
electricity
usage,
therefore,
to
bring
down
the
cost
and
protect
the
environment,
so
our
goals
are
cost
and
the
environment
the
the
principles
driving
it.
C
F
I
can
give
you
the
County
perspective
I'll.
Let
Dominions
talk
about
their
model,
so
with
the
county
on
street
lights,
every
application
in
Arlington,
whether
it
is
a
street
last
string
of
street
lights
or
traffic
signal.
Everything
in
Arlington
is
metered,
so
we
are
only
paying
Dominion
for
the
actual
electricity
that
is
being
used
and
we're
paying
for
that
electricity
at
the
retail
rate,
not
at
a
discounted
babka
are
just
kind
of
rated
right.
F
That
is
a
major
operating
costs,
so
it's
metered
and
we
we
pay
a
regular
bill
for
every
street
for
every
meter
that
we
have
you
through
the
operating
budget,
directly
fund
staff
and
contract
operations,
maintenance,
maintenance
operations
that
would
come
through
the
pay-go
budget,
and
then
you
fund
capital
projects,
which
is
like
relamping
installing
new
infrastructure,
for
example,
in
lee,
highway
and
Rosslyn.
So
those
are
the
three
ways
you
you
show.
F
B
And
so
what
I
would
say
to
that
is
the
regardless
of
whether
the
streetlights
in
Arlington
County
are
metered
lights,
that
the
county
maintains
or
lights
that
dimin
and
is
maintaining.
For
you,
the
county
is
still
the
customer
of
Dominion
for
whether
it's
just
for
the
metered
lights.
It's
for
the
energy
usage
when
it's
for
Dominion
streetlights
that
we're
maintaining
for
you
we're
providing
a
service
so
that
service
and
what
I
mentioned
I.
B
Will
we
don't
have
a
contract
person
here
with
us
today,
but
I
won't
get
into
the
the
building
of
the
rates,
but
the
energy
piece
of
that
is
a
very
small
part
of
that
rate.
The
majority
of
the
rate
is
the
maintenance
piece
and
the
fixture
the
capital,
the
capital
piece
of
what
you
know
with
the
facilities
cost
and
any
material
would
cost
so.
C
That's
what
you
mean
it's
built
on
less
than
the
energy
cost,
although
that
seems
to
me
that
would
be
a
factor,
but
it
is,
it
is
less
revenue,
and
so
it
hasn't
all
sort
of
a
distorted
impact.
If
it's
less
revenue
for
you,
then,
but
the
operating
maintenance,
wouldn't
it
be
lower-
I
mean
that
this
was
sent
out
to
us,
which
is
the
average
cost
of
a
LED
county.
Maintaining
an
LED
is
7.5
cents
per
pole
per
month,
and
the
average
for
the
DVP
LED
is
between
9
and
13
and
a
half
is
that
right?
C
C
Well,
I'm,
not
even
trying
to
get
away
from
what
the
rate
is
and
I
already
been
negotiated
to
what
the
actual
costs
are,
because
then,
hopefully,
those
real
costs
would
influence
what
the
rates
would
be,
but
doesn't
that
isn't
it
less
costly
to
maintain
I
mean
you
said
you
do
every
five
years
you
change
the
bulb,
whether
it
needs
it
or
not.
Right
you
change
the
what
you
call
it
re,
something
we
relamping
relamping.
D
C
B
An
hour
and
that's
actually
the
function
of
our
rates,
folks
that
work
on
the
negotiating
team
with
vodka
is.
We
do
provide
that
people
with
a
cost
of
service.
So
we
do
that
deep
dive
and
determine
what
does
it
cost
us
to
maintain
this
type
of
light?
What
does
it
cost
us
to
maintain
that
type
of
light
to
your
point
for
an
LED
fixture?
It
does
make
sense
that
the
LED
fixture
would
require
less
operating
and
maintenance
expense
at
the
fixture.
B
Keep
in
mind
that
other
pieces
of
how
the
rate
is
built
has
to
do
with
everything,
besides
that
fixture
the
source
that
provides
the
energy,
the
underground
conductor,
the
pole
of
the
wiring
and
the
pole.
All
of
those
things
are
components
of
that,
in
addition
to
the
costs
and
as
we
see
LED
costs
coming
down,
the
point
is
with
LED.
Currently
LED
fixture
prices
are
still
higher
than
then
the
sodium-vapor
fixtures
that
we
offer.
So
all
of
that
factors
in
I
don't
know
with
the
the
numbers
you're
looking
at
there.
We
did.
B
You
know
that
I
don't
think
it's
apples
to
apples,
but
in
terms
of
how
we
build
a
rate
and
how
the
county
may,
how
a
government
in
general
looks
at
your
OEM
and
your
capital
costs
and
energy
savings,
because
for
us
it's
not
an
necessarily
and
energy
savings.
The
same
way
a
county
custom.
The
county
as
a
customer
would
see
that
from
an
LED
perspective
as
an
LED
as
a
wonderful.
C
Savings,
you
guys
will
indulge
me,
as
does
that
when
I
mentioned
the
environment,
we
have
our
community
energy
plan,
which
sets
goals
for
ourselves
to
try
to
reach.
Does
the
statewide
plan
for
energy
reduction,
energy
efficiency,
the
goal
of
10
percent
through
2022
or
so,
or
the
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions
to
those
factor
into
dominions,
negotiations
and
goals
at
all,
I
I.
I
Think
we
do
need
to
check
into
it.
The
only
thing
that
comes
to
mind.
One
thing
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
I
think
maybe,
as
was
stated
earlier,
when
we
are
building
what
we
offer
to
vodka
and
as
we
go
through
negotiations,
we
do
look
at
what
we
are
charging
the
rate
make
up
our
plans
for
our
jurisdictional
customers,
because
that's
better
through
the
sec
and
it's
vetted
through
public
hearing
process.
So
we
do
use
that
as
a
guide.
So
all
of
that
would
factor
into
our
resource
planning.
C
Yeah
and
I'm
speaking
mostly
of
the
statewide
greenhouse
gas
and
emission
goals
and
the
statewide
voluntary
goal
of
a
10%
reduction
based
solely
on
energy
efficiency.
That
again
isn't
mandated.
Nobody
told
you
yet
to
do
it
as
utility
or
all
of
our
utilities,
but
it's
presumed
and
assumed
as
a
goal,
and
so
it
just
strikes
me
as
this
is
one
of
the
low-hanging
fruits.
In
that
regard.
B
B
Voluntary
that,
if
that
enters
into
the
discussion
during
negotiations,
then
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
if
it
does,
it
could
impact
where
we
are
next
year
in
terms
of
LED
rates
again,
what
we
provide
for
LED
is
in
negotiation
with
vodka
and
and
it
what
we
install
in
the
field
is
at
the
request
of
Epke
members.
So
we're
really,
while
we're
trying
to
drive
it
internally
as
much
as
we
can,
and
we
want
to
understand
it,
be
educated
and
be
prepared.
C
K
You
mister
Fassett,
so
I
want
to
come
back
to
practical
consideration
as
it's
playing
out
here.
Mr.
leach,
you
mentioned
this.
The
streetlights
management
plan,
which
I
know,
is
a
particularly
important
initiative
to
our
county
manager,
and
it
was
mentioned
that
there
is
an
advisory
panel
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
flavor
for
what?
What
sort
of
feedback
are
you
hearing
from
them?
How
are
you
tapping
into
their
perspective
and
expertise?
F
So
I'll
first
start
that
this
isn't
it.
This
is
a
county
manager,
advisory
group
advising
staff
on
on
developing
administrative
policies
practices.
We
spent
the
first
couple
meetings
really
trying
to
provide
a
grounding
there's
a
lot
to
our
streetlight
program
as
a
hybrid
program,
with
the
county
controlling
a
little
over
a
third
of
the
lights
and
Dominion
having
the
majority
of
the
other
lights,
and
so
for
those
first
couple
sessions
really
are
trying
to
ground
the
group
in
the
issues
that
we're
facing
and
we've
gotten
varying
perspectives.
F
Mr.
leach,
that's
okay,
so
the
first
three
meetings
were
really
to
share
a
lot
of
information
with
a
group
and
they
took
that
information
in.
We
are
kind
of
added
a
transition
phase.
In
our
study
effort,
we
did
decide
that
waiting
until
the
end
of
the
summer
was
too
long,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
holding
a
June
meeting
to
share
with
the
group
the
updates,
for
example,
the
fact
that
the
board
did
adopt
additional
budget
resources
to
allow
us
to
improve
customer
service.
F
That
is
a
big
deal
and
we
think
this
advisory
group
needs
to
to
be
aware
of
that.
I
would
say:
we've
had
very
robust
discussions
about
community
input
and
they,
via
the
advisory
group
is
currently
constituted,
provides
a
variety
of
perspectives,
but
that
may
not
fully
represent
the
interests
of
the
broader
community.
So
we
are
having
discussions
about
the
need
to
do
a
broader
base
survey
using
something
like
Survey
Monkey
to
try
to
get
basically
a
broader
input
as
we
develop
the
SMP.
But
we
will
continue
to
meet
with
this
advisory
group
through
the
fall.
K
So
if
I
could
just
ask
a
follow-up
question
or
two,
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
tasks
that
the
group
has
been
charged
with
this
examining
new
streetlight
technology
and
I
understand
that
there's
been
talk
of
an
RFI
or
an
RFP.
Something
like
that.
Could
you
just
characterize
where
that
initiative
is
and
how
the
the
citizens
task
force,
which
is
composed
of
a
number
of
representatives
from
various
key
Commission's,
like
e,
to
see
and
and
so
forth,
how
they're
being
leveraged
for
this
process
and
what
sort
of
input
they're
having
sure.
K
Is
the
actual
content
just
to
be
clear
as
the
actual
content
of
the
RFI
settled,
or
is
it
or
is
it
still
a
work
in
progress?
I
think
it
is
at
this
point,
pretty
settled:
okay.
Are
there
any
members
of
this
task
force
in
the
audience
today?
Do
you
know
mr.
leach,
there
is
not
okay.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
L
Christian
yeah,
this
question
is
for
John
it's
just
about
Becca
a
little
bit
and
I'm
just
curious.
You
mentioned
that
contracts
can
vary
from
three
I
think
to
up
to
five
years,
and
we
just
seem
intuitively
to
me
that
the
shorter
contracts
would
be
better
getting
a
little
bit
more
of
a
precision
on
on
potential
cost
savings
and
benefits,
and
it's
going
to
be
less
likely
if
you
go
into
the
out
year.
So
what
drives
whether
it's
a
three
four
or
five
year
contract,
and
is
there
a
reason
why
it
changes.
H
Sure
it
it
has
changed
of
it.
We've
gone
back
to
I
think
in
there
was
a
time
in
2000
when
we
actually
had
a
seven
year
contract
and
there's
a
trade-off
between
renewing
the
contract
more
frequently
and
the
amount
of
effort
and
analysis
that
goes
into
the
the
construction
of
that
agreement
and
the
also
the
budgetary
certainty
that
comes
from
a
longer
period
of
time.
So,
in
addition,
the
legal
counsel
will
often
be
looking
at
what's
going
on
in
the
Commonwealth
and
trying
to
anticipate
policy
factors
that
may
swing
or
loom
large
on
the
horizon.
H
Frankly,
I
don't
know
what
the
current
thinking
is,
where
we're
going
to
this
summer
have
a
first
next
board
meeting
when
we'll
start
really
start
talking
about
the
term.
But
it
is
a
matter
of
weighing
the
the
level
of
effort
and
cost
to
get
to
the
agreement
and
the
just
how
nimble
we
need
to
be
for
emerging
technologies,
but
also
just
changing
policies
which
which
can
swing
things
to
a
large
extent.
H
There
have
been
times
and
and
I
think
MS
Martha
JH
mentioned
the
biannual
review
of
the
street,
the
LED
streetlight
rate,
which
was
done
because
there
was
an
anticipation
that
those
rates
would
be
changing
and
I
believe
that
the
current
agreement
well
I'm,
not
sure,
but
there
there
have
been
instances
where
there
are
contract
reopen
errs
if
certain
events
come
to
pass,
and
so
that's
another
mechanism
that
the
agreement
holds
to
in
case
of
dramatic
changes.
Alright,.
L
So
that
I
mean
that
level
of
bargaining
is
terrific.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
now
Dominion
energy,
which
dictates
the
terms
of
the
contract.
We
do
have
a
negotiated
process
where
the
three
to
four
to
five
year
process
or
I
guess
even
up
to
seven
year
process.
We
Epke
members
do
have
a
firm
saying
that
that's
not
dictated
by
our
partner
here,
no.
L
I
could
just
do
one
very
quick
follow-up
exactly
along
these
lines,
if
it
ever
got
to
the
point
where
there
was
technical
support
that
was
needed
in
order
to
give
Epke
members
comfort
with
you
know,
a
shorter
term
contract.
What
would
be
the
mechanism
by
which
you
could
seek
that
out?
I
mean
it
you've
got
it
you're
an
organization
or
vet.
Qey
is
a
an
organization
with
limited
funds.
If
there
was
the
need
for
new
consultant
expertise
or
financial
analysis
or
another
energy
expert
or
more
legal
counsel,
what
could
you
do.
H
Expenses
tend
to
be
loaded
toward
the
negotiation
and
agreement
periods,
and
so
there
is
usually
some
means
to
to
seek
additional
advice
if
needed
and
and
rates
rates
of
the
membership
dues
and
the
budget
is,
is
reviewed
every
year
by
by
the
board,
and
the
budgets
have
have
been
roughly
constant,
but
there
is
fluctuation,
and
so
we
also
have
had
a
fund
balance
that
we've
been
able
to
bring
forward
when,
in
anticipation
of
negotiation
periods.
Thank
you.
J
As
I
look
over
again
the
original
presentation,
a
customer
service
question
presents
itself
to
me,
which
is
to
ask
on
slide
13
of
that
first
presentation
that
mr.
leach
gave
us.
There
was
a
note
about
the
sort
of
process
by
which
a
resident
makes
the
service
request
reports.
A
problem
I
think
we're
all
very
familiar
with
how
that
process
works.
J
If
it's
a
county
issue
right
and
the
follow-up
and
information
that
we
take
and
I'm,
noting
that
the
comment
that
if
the
light
is
Dominion
on
the
county
staff
rather
than
the
resident,
then
inputs
the
issue
in
Dominion
system
and
I'm
wondering
how
our
resident
would
then
follow
up
with
Dominion
to
track
the
status
of
that
Republic.
We've
reported.
B
Sure,
if,
at
the
time
that
the
county
staff
receives
the
information
from
the
resident
I
would
assume
that
there's
some
back-and-forth
communication
on
that.
If
the
county
inputs
that
into
our
system
they
get
an
immediate
work,
request
number
that
they
can
then
provide
and
I
assume
they
do.
The
count
will
speak
for
the
county,
but
I
would
assume
that
that's
probably
their
follow-up
to
that
resident.
Hey
we
reported
it.
It
was
it's
a
Dominion
light.
Here's
the
work
request
number
with
that
work,
request
number
that
and
then
can
go
on
forward.
J
B
The
resident
can
do
is
the
resident
can
provide
it
can
fill
out.
A
web
form
that
ask
specific
questions.
Residents
do
not
have
access
to
the
streetlight
outage
reporting
system
that
I
mentioned.
That's
actually
a
system,
that's
memorialized
in
the
Valco
contract,
that
is
a
negotiated
system,
and
it
was
negotiated
in
the
contract
for
Dominion
to
provide
that
system
only
to
veca
members.
So
it's
only
available
to
the
vet,
Co
members,
so.
J
C
B
B
I
would
defer
to
the
county
to
answer,
maybe
how
what
information
gets
passed
back
to
the
customer
if
an
outage
is
reported
directly
to
Arlington
County,
you
have
a
phenomenal
call
center
here
at
Arlington,
County
I
sat
with
them
on
several
occasions
to
actually
train
those
call
center
agents
on
our
system
and
there
they
do
a
phenomenal.
If
they
ever
have
any
concerns.
They
do
contact
me
and
say:
I
can't
find
something
or
I
need
help.
B
So
I'm,
not
really
I,
can't
tell
you
exactly
what
they
communicate,
but
I'm
sure
it's
the
same
level
that
our
customer
service
team
would
do,
and
that
would
be
here's
the
work
request
number.
This
is
how
you
can
contact
us
back
for
information
about
this
and
and
right
correct,
and
any
updates
on
that
I
would.
M
Just
say
that
we
do,
we
do
provide
information
that
has
been
transferred
to
the
Dominion
system
if
it's
a
Dominion
light,
it's
not
totally
seamless.
So
that's
something
we're
continuing
to
work
on
I
do
think.
If
it's
a
county
light,
they
can
find
status.
I
think
they
have
to
call.
They
can
call
Jerry
to
find
status
for
d
VPS
updates,
but
we
we
can
become
updated
as
County
staff,
but
you
know
they
have
to
call
directly
I.
Think
the
Dominion
online.
C
J
I
think,
just
to
tie
that
up
I
mean
I
may
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
signal
the
interest
at
the
board
level,
because
I
know
it's
one.
Our
staff
has
raised
with
us
about
trying
to
find
a
way
to
that
access
that
our
residents,
as
well
as
staff,
have
to
that
system
and
if
it
means
going
through
web
gov
and
it
means
going
through
web,
go
but
yeah
I
think
that
is
very
much
an
interest
in
the
name
of
good
customer
service.
Libby.
D
It's
just
a
follow-on
to
this
one,
and
it
may
just
a
business.
I
wasn't
wasn't
attending
as
closely
as
I
should
I
understand,
yet
how
it
works
with
people
reporting
and
promise.
Could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
ongoing
maintenance?
In
other
words,
if
you
don't
get
a
light,
if
the
light
hasn't
nobody's
reported
that
it's
been
a
problem
for
five
years
or
ten
years,
are
you
out
there
checking
on
it
anyway,
because
every
so
many
years
these
lights
need
a
little
attention?
B
And
I'll
take
that
one
for
the
Dominion
lights.
We
do
touch
every
light,
whether
someone
calls
us
or
not,
at
least
once
every
five
years,
and
that's
part
of
our
routine
maintenance
program
where
we
will
change
the
bulb
change.
The
photocell
and
I
mentioned
it
earlier.
Do
a
general
health
check
and
report
back
any
additional
follow-up
items
that
might
be
needed
for
another
crew
to
to
return
to
that
light
for
any
repairs
and
again
that's
outside
of
our
normal
outage
response
for
outages
that
we
receive
from
citizens
or
from
the
county.
B
M
B
B
For
the
relamping
it
includes
the
fixture,
the
pole
there's
not
really,
and
you
mentioned
underground
cable
there's
not
really
a
good
way
to
do
a
health
check
on
buried
underground
cable
so
for
our
underground
cable.
If
it
does
fail,
then
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
investigate
that
and
our
decision-making
comes
at
the
time
that
an
outage
is
reporting
to
report
it
to
us
and
we
identify
whether
or
not
the
cable
is
able
to
be
repaired
or
at
that
time
make
a
decision
if
we
need
to
proactively
replace
it.
B
D
M
It
I
would
I
would
just
add
to
supplement
to
that
answer.
The
county
in
2016
is
going
countywide
with
all
19,000
plus
lights
and
riding
all
the
streets
with
the
TE
no
staff
and
we're
entering
the
lights
in
our
system
that
we
need
to
fix
just
as
a
proactive
measure
and
we
plan
to
do
that
annually,
both
for
the
Dominion
system,
lights
and
our
satellites.
That's
both
sets
a
light,
so
it
helps
supplement
and
it
gives
a
proactive
nature
to
both
the
Dominion
lights
in
the
county
lights.
Okay,.
C
C
Quick
follow-up
on
Libby's,
which
is
the
underground
cabling,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
hear
through
the
grapevine
is
that
you
guys
actually
replace
you
know
you'll
fix
a
light,
but
the
question
becomes
at
what
point
is
it
really
the
cabling
and
the
light
just
keeps
going
out
and
at
what
point
do
you
know
it's
the
cable
and
you're
able
to
fix
the
problem?
The
systemic
problem,
as
opposed
to
the
symptom
and.
B
It
is
that's
what
we
follow
up
with
an
underground
crew
and
and
then
that
underground
crew
then
has
that
decision-making
process,
and
that's
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
that
there's
some
internal
resources
that
contribute
to
that
as
well.
For
instance,
if
we
know
that
we've
made
repair,
we
have
historical
data
on
a
certain
span
of
lights,
that
we've
made
underground
repairs.
B
We
may
make
the
decision
to
immediately
send
that
to
a
cable
replacement
project,
as
opposed
to
attempting
additional
repairs,
understanding
that
it
may
go
back
out
in
another
year
or
so
so
we're
trying
to
balance
the
decision
making
of
when
to
replace
when
to
repair
with
with
reliability
and
and
right
and
the
resources
that
we
have
at
the
time
as
well.
Okay,.
F
Want
to
actually
add
one
more
point
that
we
missed
on
on
checking
the
status
of
streetlights,
whether
they're
on
and
and
and
dispatching
maintenance
crews.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
developed
through
deployment
of
technology
is
that
we
have
transmitters
in
our
streetlights.
Now
they
are
transmitting
data
back
to
a
server
when
the
light
no
longer
transmits.
That's
a
sign
that
that
light
is
not
working,
and
if
we
see
a
string,
we
have
a
way
to
remotely
check
whether
the
lights
are
on
and
that's
the
technology.
F
C
My
last
question
I
think
a
couple
of
us
have
a
follow-up
and
that's
it
and
I
think
we're
right
toward
the
end.
Have
you
given
thought
to
our
is?
Do
you
know
of
Dominion
is
open
to
an
arrangement
with
a
locality
like
an
Arlington
to
take
on
the
maintenance
of
your
streetlights
in
exchange
for
some
rate
reduction
in
the
per
camper
streetlight
yeah.
B
C
Sounds
like
something
that
probably
should
be
explored,
whether
or
not
it's
beneficial
to
either
side
of
the
equation.
I
don't
know,
but
it
certainly
is
something
I
mean.
We've
we've
taken
on
streets,
we've
owned.
We
come
into
ownership
of
roads
with
VDOT,
because
that
expedites
so
much
of
our
work.
At
this
end,
if
there's
without
coming
into
ownership,
if
there's
a
comparable
understanding
where
some
of
the
responsibilities
taken
on
by
the
county
in
exchange
for
savings
and
energy
costs
or
payments
per
per
poll,
it
seems
like
it
may
be
worth
exploring
as
well.
K
You
so
I
I
wish
we'd
had
time.
We
had
time
for
a
lightening
round,
but
I'll
do
this
really
quickly
and
I
will
have
a
few
more
questions
to
follow
up
with
so
our
report,
a
problem
app
probably
in
the
top
five
is
street
light
damaged
or
out,
as
we
saw
on
the
screenshot
another
concern
that
people
have.
K
So
frustration
with
people
as
to
who
owns
these,
who
owns
that
this
stuff
is
that
is
it?
Is
it
the
telephone
company?
Is
it
DVP?
Is
that
the
county
is
that
the
K?
Is
it
a
cable
provider
and,
and
there
was
a
Graham-
there
was
a
there-
was
a
review
of
this
last
year
and
the
County
response
came
back
saying
that
you
know
citizens
are
encouraged
to
contact
their
cable.
K
The
cable
providers
whose
contact
information
is
on
the
web
and
failing
that,
go
to
the
State
Corporation
Commission,
and
so
you
know
that's
that's
a
little
frustrating
when
people
see
something
like
that
and
they
don't
they
don't
feel
empowered
to
be
able
to
to
do
anything.
So
so
so.
I'd,
like
your
your
DV
piece
perspective
and
also
the
county's
perspective
on
what,
if
anything,
can
be
done
from
a
practical
standpoint
to
mitigate
that
the
spaghetti
on
top
and
around
the
bottom,
because
it's
not
only
an
aesthetic
issue,
but
it
can
be
a
safety
issue.
So.
F
A
G
A
number-one
rity
for
us,
so
if
it
is
a
live
wire
or
any
wire,
if
you
have
a
question
about
it,
stay
10
feet
away
from
it.
That's
the
company
practice
and
that's
what
we
let
our
customers
know
as
well.
So
if
there
is
concern
about
the
wire
treated
as
that
it
is
a
hot
wire
on
the
ground
as
for
as
far
as
the
aesthetic
portion
of
it.
If
the
county
is
looking
to
underground,
wires
or
underground
lines,
you
know
we
have
our
design
department
that
does
that
work
all
the
time.
G
So
if
that's
something
that
you
guys
want
to
pursue,
we
can
call
in
work
request.
We
can
make
those
work
requests,
we
can
have
a
designer
come
out
meet
you
on
site
and
we
can
actually
address.
You
know
what
you
want
to
see
above
ground
and
below
ground,
not
speaking
for
other
utility
companies
there,
but
more
than
happy
to
work
with
you
on
an
individual
location
basis.
So
mr.
F
Schwartz
for
mr.
leach
I
will
just
reference
the
there
is
a
long-standing
utility
coordination
meeting
that
takes
place
monthly
with
des
staff,
actually
supporting
that
we're
a
whole
raft
of
things
are
tracked.
Every
utility
undergrounding
project
is
tracked
in
great
detail,
and
if
there
are
systemic
issues
in
a
neighborhood,
it
can't
be
the
one
off
a
single
pole,
as
we
simply
don't
have
the
staffing
capacity
to
assign
a
case
manager
to
each
single
pole.
F
But
if
there
are
ongoing
problems
with
a
corridor,
those
things
also
get
tracked
and
get
worked
at
the
monthly
utility
coordination
meeting
and
Dominion
is
a
regular
attendee
along
with
Comcast
and
Verizon
are
the
big
three
and
yes,
we
have
above
grab.
We
have
above
ground
utility
districts,
not
all
of
Arlington
is
underground,
and
those
poles
are
either
owned
by
Dominion
or
they're,
sometimes
owned
by
Verizon.
Okay,.
K
So
but
I'm
just
wondering
from
a
practical
standpoint:
what
well
you
know,
how
do
we
materially
improve
things?
I
mean
we're,
adding
we're
adding
what
three
people
to
the
to
the
to
the
street
lights
program.
I
mean.
Could
potentially
one
of
these
folks
be
TAS,
turd
or
designated
to
maybe
spearhead
a
better
effort
to
coordinate
this
and
then,
as
you
point
out,
there's
undergrounding
but
there's
whole
neighborhoods.
Of
course
we're
undergrounding
may
be
decades
away
because
of
cost
and-
and
the
frustration
is
you
know,
is
in
these
residential
neighborhoods.
K
That
may
be
far
away
from
any
undergrounding.
But
the
other
related
question
is:
when
a
poll
when
there
is
undergrounding
and
the
poll
goes
dark
or
becomes
fallow
or
whatever
you
know.
How
long
is
it
before
that
poll
gets
taken
down
and
you've
got?
You
know.
You've
got
a
poll
on
one
side
of
the
street
and
a
shiny,
new
standalone
streetlight
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
F
I
will
say
on
your
second
point
in
terms
of
where
work
is
being
concise,
ions
or
capital
projects
that
might
be
funded
by
the
county,
I
reference
back
to
the
monthly
utility
coordination
meeting.
Every
action
is
tracked,
the
utility
spreadsheet
I
think
is
now
30-some
pages.
Where
entries
get
added.
Every
month
the
status
gets
discussed
every
month
and
when
we
fund
a
utility
undergrounding
project,
the
process
is
the
duck.
Bank
gets
installed.
F
C
Share
it
with
you,
you
know,
thank
you,
I'm
just
going
to
summarize
this,
and
really
it
thanks
to
the
staff
for
I
think
we
accomplished
a
lot
of
our
goals
in
trying
to
understand
how
some
of
the
new
resources
will
be
applied.
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
great
discussion
and
with
you
all
about
customer
service
across
the
board
and
about
the
LED,
the
interest
I
think
you
sense
it
in
that
that
conversation
about
conversion,
for
all
those
broader
reasons,
so
I
want
to
say
in
the
end.
C
Thank
you
to
you
all
for
coming
today
for
I,
don't
think,
there's
an
organization
we
interface
with
on
a
regular
basis
that
does
a
better
job
of
communicating
with
the
staff,
in
particular
keeping
all
of
us
updated.
You
know
when
there's
a
weather
emergency
coming
I
know
the
emails
are
coming
from
you
guys
with
who
to
touch
base
with
who's
available.
Who
you
know
if
you
have
a
problem,
call
us
so
we
know
you're
available
Scott.
C
Thank
you
for
even
the
way
you
responded
to
the
last
question,
sort
of
offering
to
problem-solve
whether
it's
a
at
one
pole
or
a
system
of
poles,
a
systemic
issue.
So
again,
thanks,
you'll,
obviously
be
hearing
from
us
or
others
will
around
this
vep
guy.
Think
we
all
learned
what
Epke
is.
We
may
not
know
what
this
acronym
stands
for
still
at
this
moment,
but
we
know
what
the
function
and
the
purpose
of
that
group
is
and
how
honestly
significant
they
are
to
helping
us
in
Arlington
achieve
some
of
our
long-standing
goals.
N
C
I'm
ready
the
County
Board
convene
a
closed
meeting
is
authorized
by
Virginia
Code
section
2.2
3
7
1
1
a1
for
the
purpose
of
discussing
personnel
matters
involving
employees
appointed
by
the
county
board
seconded
by
Miss
crystal
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
carries
5-0.
We
are
in
recess.
Thank
you
closed
session
recess.