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A
A
Yep,
so
the
next
item
is
an
application
from
Mr
Khan
at
2910,
Columbia
Pike.
You
reviewed
his
window
application
the
last
two
months
and
he
is
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
the
the
windows
as
approved
in
that
meeting,
and
he
has
now
returned
for
signage.
A
He
is
planning
to
put
in
this
blade,
sign
and
facade
signage
and
I
included
in
the
packet
images,
showing
that
this
building
traditionally
has
a
balloon
sign
in
this
facade,
signage
and
it
had
it
also
originates-
is
in
the
90s.
So
this
is
the
design
that
has
been
submitted
to
us.
Mr
Khan.
Are
you
on
the
line
with
us?
Yes,.
F
No
just
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
add
is
that,
basically,
all
we're
doing
is
just
changing
the
name
that
is
currently
there
we're
not
adding
anything.
The
placement
of
the
sign
is
exactly
what
it
is
currently
there
from
the
previous
tenants,
so
basically
we're
just
taking
their
sign
off
and
we're
just
putting
hours
in
the
same
place.
G
H
Do
we
know
so
I
know
historically,
there's
always
been
a
linear
sign.
How
was
that
anchored
I'm,
just
wondering
if,
because
the
current
sign,
that's
there
now
is
much
longer
and
when
we
put
the
shorter
one
on,
what
will
it
look
like
behind
it.
A
Since
there's
currently
this
black
anchor
inside,
which
is
much
longer,
how
much
will
need
to
be
in
Fields
And?
If
what
does
the
brick
look
like
so
has
the
site
already
come
down?
Mr
Khan.
A
Has
the
black
sign
that
used
to
say
P,
Brennan's,
Irish
Pub
already
come
down.
A
F
A
Don't
know
how
much
what
it's
going
to
look
like
behind
when
you
take
it
down,
you
don't
know
how
much
anchoring
or,
if
there's
going
to
be
holes
in
the
bricks
or
anything
like
that.
F
So
so
what
what
we
currently
have
there?
The
black
sign
that
you're
talking
about
where
it
says
Pete
brand
and
Irish
Pub
I'm,
not
talking
about
the
we're
not
talking
about
the
vertical
one,
the
blue
one,
we're
talking
about
the
the
horizontal
one?
Yes,
so
that
signage
is
pretty
long.
Basically,
so
we
have
to
actually
see
behind
what
exactly
how
much
anchoring
has
been
done,
but
my
sign
that
I'm
putting
on
there
is
much
smaller,
so
the
space
wise
where
we're
gonna
put
it
is
going
to
fit
right
into
it.
F
So
we're
not
at
additional
we're,
not
adding
additional
holes
to
the
to
the
facade
or
we're
not
doing
any
extra
anchoring.
Whatever
is
already
there
there's
more
than
sufficient
enough
for
us
most
likely
we're
gonna
have
to
cover
some
of
the
some
of
the
holes.
That's
that
was
put
before
by
the
the
Irish
Pub
that
was
there
before
us.
H
Right,
I
guess
that's!
My
concern
is
just
knowing
what's
behind
it
when
you
remove
that
long
sign
to
put
on
the
shorter
one
and
not
opposed
either
way,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
treating
the
facade
appropriately
once
we
see
what's
behind
it,.
F
Yes,
ma'am,
the
only
way
I
can
do
this,
and
only
where
we
can
actually
know
is
if
I
take
off
the
current
sign.
That's
already
there
and
I
cannot
touch
that
until
I
have
sometimes
an
approval
from
you
guys,
so
I
can't
just
literally
take
off
the
current
sign,
that's
there,
but
what
I
do
know
is
when
I
spoke
with
the
with
the
designer
who's.
Just
the
company
that's
designing.
F
The
sign
is
that
the
space
that
the
current
horizontal
sign
is
is
literally
a
lot
bigger,
so
there's
a
Blackboard
that
is
underneath
the
sign
and
the
sign
goes
on
top
of
it.
So
that-
and
the
sign
has
all
those
letters
that
you
see
for
p
brand
and
Irish
Pub
they're
all
nailed
into
the
facade,
so
the
locations
of
the
sign
is
already
there.
We
don't
have
to
put
any
extra
Nails
to
hold
that
sign.
That
I'm
trying
to
put
on.
H
F
Okay,
so
the
current
sign,
that's
already
there
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
lighting
board
on
the
bottom
and
there
there.
Then
they
have
letters
on
top
of
it,
which
is
the
neon
letters,
those
letters
they
are
held
by
a
frame
which
is
in
the
back
of
it,
where
the
light
goes
so
that
that
frame
in
the
back
of
the
the
letter
they
they
have
to
they
got.
You
got
to
have
a
sport
to
hold
that
sign,
so
they
are,
they
are
anchored
or
nailed
into
the
facade.
F
So
once
we
take
those
off
and
I,
we
I
put
my
sign
in
the
middle
of
it,
we're
using
the
same
anchoring
and
the
the
location
of
the
basically
in
the
middle,
so
the
so
whatever
damage
or
I
wouldn't
put
any
damage,
but
whatever
holes
are
made
on
the
left
of
it
and
on
the
right
of
it.
Those
needs
to
be
filled
in
and
that
wasn't
done
by
obviously
I
would
I
would
go
ahead
and
fix
it,
but
it
wasn't
those
those
Best
Line,
the
previous
restaurant.
F
E
Okay,
this
is
Robert
the
if
I
recall
our
standards
for
this
kind
of
stuff
requires
that
that,
when
you
know,
when
fastening
is
done
into
historic,
brick
surfaces
that
it
be
done
into
the
mortar
between
the
bricks,
so
it
should
be
pretty
easy
to
fix.
Assuming
that.
E
To
the
to
the
you
know,
the
requirements
of
the
previous
CMA.
F
That's
what
I
was
told
the
same
way,
the
same
thing:
they're,
not
something
so
huge.
If
there
is
some
extra
nail
Nails
holes
there
they're
easily
fixable,
basically
you
nobody
would
even
see
it
once
it's
fixed.
I
Everybody
Lauren
Ferris
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
reiterate.
I
Whenever
we
are
dealing
with
signs
as
Robert
was
saying,
we
would
just-
and
it
sounds
like
Mr
Khan
is
saying
that
once
that
existing
sign
is
taken
off,
you
know
if
existing
holes
or
punctures
can
be
used
for
the
new
sign,
so
that
we're
not
putting
any
more
new
holes
into
the
facade
and
that
repairs
would
be
done
as
it
sounds
like
Mr
Khan's
already,
on
top
of
that
to
any
holes
that
aren't
being
used
so
that
there's
no
water
being
infiltrated
in
behind
the
facade
and
Mr
Khan.
I
You
know
if
you
need
to
do
any
cleaning
of
the
facade,
because
it
has
kind
of
like
a
shadow
left
on
the
brick
from
the
old
sign,
just
get
in
contact
with
us,
and
we
can
kind
of
tell
you
how?
Because
we
don't
want
to
do
any
power
power
power
washing
onto
the
brick.
F
It
would
just
be
believe
me,
I've,
been
I
think
this
is
my
probably
third
time
coming
back
and
I
I
learned
so
much
about
this
whole
dealing
with
the
historical
locations
and
properties.
So
I
will
let
you
guys
know
if
anything
that
needs
to
be
done
great.
F
B
F
Both
sides
has
a
Plexiglas
with
the
name
from
the
Irish
Pub,
so
that
plexiglass
is
the
only
thing.
That's
gonna
be
change.
All
the
hardware
stays
exactly,
as
is
okay,.
C
D
It's
it's
fine
horizontally,
but
vertically
I
find
that
difficult
to
extremely
difficult,
difficult
I
would
have
expected
if
you
wanted
to
put
a
number
to
make
the
numbers
a
little
more
traditional
if
you
will
without
a
Catching
Fire
on
top
that's.
E
Just
like
so
the
the
name,
so
the
name
of
the
restaurant
is
29,
10.,
I
gather
or.
E
Yes,
okay!
Well,
my
my
comment
is
that
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
the
Irish
Pub
sign
versus
the
original
Arlington
Hardware
sign
they're.
Actually,
both
the
bottom
horizontal
part
is,
is
not
identical,
but
it's
similar
in
that
that
you
have
a
long,
linear
song
I'm,
where
the
letters
sit
on
that
shelf
that
you
alluded
to
earlier
and
with
that
little
those
little
verticals
in
the
middle,
not
that
kind
of
give
it
the
center,
where
the
the
blade
sign
goes
up,
whereas
yours
is
just
your.
E
Your
horizontal
sign
is,
is
just
you
know
like
a
conventional
sign.
The
the
Shelf
has
disappeared,
it's
much
shorter,
it's
not!
It
doesn't
have
any
kind
of
long
linear
element
to
it
and
it
kind
of
disturbs
me
because
it
doesn't
you
know
it
doesn't
it
doesn't
have
any
of
the
character
of
the
original
sign,
whereas
the
you
know
the
the
Irish
Pub
they
they
used
a
you
know
it's
a
modern
building.
They
used
a
modern
font.
You
know
I,
understand
that
you
know.
Some
of
this
is
your.
E
Let
me
finish
the
historic
character
of
the
of
the
signage,
because
this
is
a
really
simple
building
and
quite
a
lot
of
its
character,
as
actually
the
sign,
quite
frankly
and
whereas
I
think
the
Irish
Pub
one
kind
of
carried
the
the
spirit
of
the
sign
that
was
there
before
I.
Don't
think
yours
does
it's
it's
completely
different.
It
looks
like
any
sign.
It
could
be
anywhere
that
doesn't
have
to
be
on
this
historic
building.
F
Okay,
as
far
as
the
point
goes
Robin
we
can
I
can
we
can
change
that?
That's
not
a
big,
that's,
not
a
big
deal
at
all.
The
font
could
be
changed.
This
sign
is
not
made
yet
because
again,
we're
just
waiting
for
the
meeting
and
the
final
approval
for
you
guys
before
they
start
producing
anything.
Okay,
one
could
be
changed.
E
And
can
you
look
up
something,
that's
more
that
you
know,
even
if
it's
just
lines
that
come
out
from
the
you
know
the
2900
in
both
directions.
F
I
have
I
mean,
like
I
know,
you
were
in
the
middle
of
the
meeting.
I,
don't
even
know
if
I
can
send
you
guys
something
there's
another
there's
another
logo
designed
by
my
designer,
which
I
was
looking
into
it.
That
because
I
had
a
feeling.
This
comment
was
gonna,
come
up,
okay,
yeah,
so
I
had
a
logo
designed
which
I
honestly
like
a
lot
better
than
this
one
current
one
so
I,
don't
know.
If
I
can
is
there
any
way?
A
You
have
you
have
a
week
from
now
to
send
me
any
updated
drawings
and
they
could
be
considered
a
fresh
yeah.
E
E
My
other
comment
before
we
leave
this
is,
is
also
the
you
know
in
you
also
notice
the
the
prevailing
both
of
the
other
two
signs
had
a
black
and
white
sort
of
you
know,
so
you
might
want
to
think
about
that
as
well,
that
you
know
maybe,
instead
of
particularly
on
the
virtual
sign,
instead
of
doing
the
letters
on
white,
you
do
them.
You
know
on
a.
F
E
F
Those
are
my
comments,
but
I
do
have
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
say.
The
name
of
the
restaurant
is
just
number
that's
the
only
day.
There
is
no
such
thing
as
a
pub
or
a
bistro
or
a
kitchen
and
bar
or
restaurant,
but
what
I
can
do
is
definitely
the
the
other
design
that
I
have
is
much
more.
F
Cleaner
font
is
really
good
and
it
is
there's
some
additional
lines
that
make
the
sign
a
lot
longer.
Yeah.
B
E
No,
no,
no
I,
think
that's
I
think
you
can
do
it
with
lines,
you
don't
you
don't
have
to
do
it
with
with
words,
but
it's
just
something
that
makes
it
extends
it.
So
it's
more.
F
I
Can
I
ask
for
a
clarifying
question
I
want
to
on
what
the
direction
that
you're
giving
I
just
want
to
make
sure?
Are
you
all
trying
to
see
if
Mr
Khan
can
keep
the
on
the
horizontal
line
to
keep
those
kind
of
art
deco
Line
Design,
like
the
that
that
the
old
sign
is
sitting
on
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
don't
because
right
now,
I'm
not
hearing
that?
That's
something
you
want
to
see.
E
F
Them,
yes,
there's
one
one
more
thing:
that
I
would
like
to
add
the
comment
there
is
that
so
as
far
as
the
the
size
currently
the
size
of
the
from
the
bottom
to
the
top,
it's
got
to
be
minimum
eight
feet
where
the
sign
goes,
but
ours
is
more
than
10
feet,
so
the
the
black,
the
black
board,
that
you're
talking
about
for
the
horizontal
one,
the
the
letters
on
top
of
it,
because
we
have
Windows
right
above
it.
F
So
we
cannot
have
the
sign
above
the
window,
the
current
letters
that
would
the
the
current
letters
there
are
there.
There
is
this
pea
brand
and
Irish
Pub
they're
only
24
inches,
which
is
extremely
small.
You
know
so
the
reason.
The
reason
we
had
that
the
black
coat
removed,
because,
first
of
all,
extremely.
B
F
The
hardware
and
I
just
wow
if
I
wanted
to
I,
wanted
to
be
removed.
So
we
had
the
line
pushed
down
because
we're
still
meeting
the
minimum
requirement
of
the
height
where
the
sign
can
go
and
the
re
and
and
if
we
push
that
down
a
little
bit
to
sign
that
way,
we
can
have
our
then
the
logo
and
the
numbers
and
the
whole
everything
could
be
a
little
bit
bigger
than
24
inches.
E
Okay,
well,
why
don't
you?
Why
don't
you
show
us,
you
know
what
your
option,
your
other
option
is,
and
we
can
react
to
that
and
maybe
we'll
revisit
this
idea
of
this
shelf,
then.
A
Okay,
so
can
I
confirm
we're
putting
that
on
the
discussion
agenda
for
the
hlr
people.
F
E
A
Number
three:
this
is
for
another
sign
going
into
the
space
next
to
the
rep
Panic
coffee
space,
and
so
this
is
the
existed
building,
and
here
we
have
this
sign
that
has
been
submitted.
Mr
kataria,
yes,.
G
A
Here
so
the
application
reduced
size
of
this
and
has
resubmitted
this.
It
used
to
go
up
into
the
coping
and
he's
been
kind
enough
to
edit
it
do
you
have
any
other
any
additional
comments
to
make.
Mr
kataria.
G
Yeah,
so
one
of
the
things
we
were
kind
of
looking
at
again
was,
if
you
look
at
the
Rappahannock
sign
or
the
sign
that
existed
before
this
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
access
to
that
too
I.
G
That's
fine,
so
that
definitely
goes
above
that
that
green
or
dark
gray
line
I
know
we
talked
about
so
and
then
I
started
like
looking
into
it.
I
was
hearing
that
only
the
first,
like
top
two
lines.
You
can't
you
should
not
cover,
but
the
third
line
is
okay.
So
can
you
like
elaborate
on
that?
If,
if
you
have
information.
I
Want
to
sure
so
I
think
I
think
we
just
didn't
I
think
it
was
just
a
matter
of
the
the
just
to
try
and
keep
both
signs
kind
of
just
in
the
same
location
of
where
they
are,
and
we
appreciated
you
providing
us
feedback
about
the
the
brick
that
we're
seeing
everybody
closer
to
the
copy
that
has
the
green
color.
It's
just
paint
it's
not
like
a
special
different
type
of
brick
material
right
and
so
what
we're
guidance.
I
We
were
trying
to
tell
what
about
the
sign
and
the
placement
was
to
try
and
kind
of
keep
it
in
the
same
same
location
and
not
to
go
above
I
guess
it
looks
like
it's
like
that.
The
white
line
and
the
line
closest
to
the
coping
see
if
we
can
kind
of
just
kind
of
keep
them
so
they're
not
going
up
or
above
I,
also
know
you
can't
go
above
the
coping
I
think
for
fire
safety
reasons.
So
yeah,
okay,.
G
So
like
looking
at
this
picture
that
you
guys
are
showing
us
right
now
right,
so
there
are
like
three
green
lines
right
and
then
they're
white
lines.
So
this
is
like
touching
the
second
line,
not
touching
the
third
one,
and
so
is
it
okay
to
have
our
sign
touching
the
second
line,
because
right
now
from
what
we
were
told
that
we
cannot
touch
the
green
line
at
all,
and
this
sign
like
right
now
honestly
is
too
small
according
to
like,
if
you
look
at
both
buildings,
this
will
look
too
small
compared
to
our
neighbors.
I
From
my
thought
is
that
you
can
make
it
a
bit
bigger
so
that
it
does
start
to
overlap
with
the
lines
above,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
hear
what
the
other
DRC
members
State
and
also
just
so
you
know
sorry
I
appreciate
it
that
you
were
able
to
lower
the
sign
at
least
and
deal
with
that
funky
conduit
connection
that
you
have
there
I
know
that
that's
challenging,
which
is
why
you
were
going
with
the
replacement
being
a
little
bit
higher.
E
Lauren
before
before
we
get
into
that,
let
me
ask
a
question,
because
you
know
this,
this
does
affect
you
know.
The
the
placement
of
the
sign
is
the
the
the
the
the
horizontal
element,
the
fascia,
that
is
at
the
top
of
the
glass
projects
from
the
face
of
the
building
right.
The
little
bit.
Do
you
know
how
far
it
projects?
No
I?
E
Don't
because
you
know
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
Rappahannock
coffee
roasting
is
a
little
bit
higher
is
because
you
know
if
you're
looking
up
good,
some
of
the
that
canopy
or
the
fascia
element
might
obscure
a
little
bit
of
the
sign.
I.
Think
that's
why
there's
they're
trying
to
push
it
up
a
little
bit
higher,
but
I
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
think
it
projects
that
much
but
it,
but
if
you
put
it
right
on
top
you'll,
be
obscuring
part
of
the
sign.
E
You
know
from
Street
levels,
so
I
I,
I'm,
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
idea
of
raising
it,
but
I'll
hold
my
comments
until
everybody
is
done,
but
my
comments
are
going
to
be
very
similar
to
the
last
to
the
last
on.
In
terms
of
the
style
of
the
sign
I'm
finding
that
it
it
it
clashes
to
me
with
the
with
the
style
of
the
building.
But
let's
hear
everybody
else's
comments:
oh
yeah,
oh
okay!
Well
there
that.
I
E
Right
well,
but
see
that
yeah.
This
is
a
difficult
thing.
When
you're
talking
about
signs
because
signs,
you
know
that
signs
are
mostly
font
and
you
know
in
a
little
bit
of
graphics
and
color.
So
right
you
know
it's.
We,
we
I
think
we
I
hope
we
would
push
it
in
a
direction
that
that
makes
it
more
synthetic
to
the
building.
But
let's
hear
what
everybody
else
has
to
say.
G
Now,
just
sorry,
just
just
to
add
one
more
thing:
I
know
that
the
picture
shows
like
it's
bright
red.
It's
not
going
to
be
like
super
bright
like
again
like
if
you
have
access
to
Google
like
if
you
Google
thicker
clouds,
like
other
stores,
you'll
see
it's
like
a
darker
maroonish
red
instead
of
like
a
bright
red.
So
it's
not
gonna.
G
E
G
E
Yeah
I
think
that's
good
I,
don't
know
what
everybody
else
thinks,
but
that
that
would
that's.
You
know,
that's
my
first
thought.
What
does
everybody
else
think
also.
B
D
I
guess
it's
smoke
coming,
you
know.
What's
up
and
cuts
all
over
two
letters,
that'll
make
it
look
much
more
visible
because
that
overhang
does
come
out.
Well,
it
does
you're
right.
It
does
obscure
design
as
it
is.
Now,
it's
not
going
to
look
like
that.
D
Mercy
moved
up.
It
really
worked
out
a
lot
more
otherwise.
D
C
Yeah,
the
only
question
I
guess
that
I
had
was
I.
Guess
the
the
Big
Smoke
in
cigar
hookah.
Will
that
be
readable,
I
guess
from
like
from
from
the
sidewalk.
It
seems
a
little
bit
small
compared
to
everything
else,
but
maybe
it's
just
kind
of
and
I'm
not
seeing.
Obviously
like
that
what
was
I
like
to
say,
but
that
Texas
seems
a
little
bit
small.
It
kind
of
kind
of
scrunched
down
I
mean
I,
mean
I,
understand
that
you
don't
want
to
make
it
obviously
too
large,
but
that's
a
little
bit,
maybe
maybe.
B
E
But
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
it's
actually
bigger
than
the
the
thing
that
says:
coffee
and
roasting
on
rappahannocks.
B
C
E
C
E
E
So
do
we
feel
that
is
it?
Do
we
feel
that
that
changes
could
be
made?
You
know
lifting
it
changing
the
color
to
the
green,
that
we
could
that
assuming
everybody
was
okay
with
it.
It
could
be
put
on
consent
or
do
we
do?
We
need
to
also
put
this
on
discussion.
E
G
Can
I
ask
you
one
one
more
question
for
so
we
can
change
the
black
to
Green.
That
won't
be
a
problem
it
just
for
me.
It's.
It
will
look
like
because
it's
a
LED
sign
the
white
fonts
with
the
green
background,
I'm,
not
sure
how
if
it's
gonna
pop
up
or
it's
gonna,
just
merge
build
a
bit
the
building
so
that
if
we
can
keep
the
black
that'd
be
great.
If
that
was
a
deal
breaker
then
we'll
definitely
go
ahead
and
change.
It.
E
B
I
I
Robert
might
be,
if
it's
not
it's
not
black
or
the
green
is
maybe
too
light.
Maybe
it's
just
softening
how
bold
the
black
is.
Maybe
it
can
be
kind
of
a
little
bit
more
of
like
a
darker
gray
or
something
just
to
kind
of
make
it
a
little
bit
more
subtle
if
possible,
so
maybe
Nick.
If
you
can
kind
of
explore
and
see
what
could
work
and
still
see
the
the
white
font.
G
What
about
and
then
this
is
just
throwing
an
option:
what,
if
you
do
white
background
and
black
fonts?
Would
that
be
better.
G
B
E
E
It's
definitely
not
green
yeah,
maybe
if
it
was
more,
not
a
harsh
black.
Maybe
if
it
was
a
you
know,
it's
Lauren
saying
maybe
a
a
darker
gray.
It
would
fit
in
better
I
just
find
it's
it's
kind
of
abrupted
black.
So
if
you
could
take
a
look
at
those,
maybe
give
us
a
couple
of
options
because
I
think
what
but
you
know
and
I
know.
E
Some
of
this
is
just
the
graphics
that
it's
Photoshop,
where
you
have
where
your
logos
in
is,
is
very
sharp
and
then
the
the
you
know
the
the.
E
Image
is
not
as
sharp,
so
it
looks,
kind
of
glaring,
I'm
sure
it
won't
be
quite
so
glaring
in
real
life,
but
but
I
think
softening
the
black
I
think
would
help
it
and
also
those
white
background,
the
the
you
know,
the
bar
that
kind
of
joins
the
the
thicker
and
the
the
clouds.
E
G
Absolutely
and
that
that
would
be
our
preference.
Usually
we
keep
the
the
Raceway,
that's
what
we
call
it
Raceway.
We
keep
it
like
close
to
the
building
colors,
because
even
for
us
it
doesn't
look
nice
if
it's
a
different
color
that
pops
out
right,
and
so
so
you
guys
are
okay
to
make
the
size
bigger
right.
So
as
long
as
it
doesn't
go
above
that
that
second
line
from
time
I.
E
E
The
thicker
was
all
the
way
through
that
bottom
line.
You
know
not,
you
know,
maybe
the
top
of
it
in
the
middle
of
the
of
the
of
the
what
yeah
between
the
two
lines
there.
G
Yeah,
so
as
of
now,
this
old
sign
is
I,
think
smaller
than
Rappahannock,
because
the
original
copy
we
submitted
was
I,
guess
almost
the
same
size
as
Rappahannock.
And
then
we.
E
Had
to
you
could
show
it
to
us
a
little
bit
bigger.
So
you
know
just
I
wouldn't
go
a
lot
bigger
because
that's
of.
G
A
G
G
A
G
E
A
A
To
present,
would
you
like
to
have
my
computer?
You
know
I
think.
A
Agenda
item:
this
is
the
return
of
the
the
Williams
Farm
House
rehabilitation.
You
have
met
the
team
before
and
they're
returning
with
some
updated
Concepts
based
on
the
edits
that
were
recommend.
K
No
nothing
from
the
overall
project
change.
So
really
we
took
a
look
at
the
feedback
that
we
received
and
worked
to
incorporate
as
much
as
we
could
within
the
constraints
of
is
when
I
emphasize
the
as
usual
the
eventual
use
of
the
property
and
just
be
recognized
that
accessibility
of
moving
forward
accessibility
and
functionality
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
welcoming
home
for
both
its
residents
and
its
communities,
is
something
that
you
know
we're
working
to
incorporate
into
the
design.
K
So
you'll
see
that
as
Scott
walks
through
the
changes
that
have
been
made
again
mostly
reflects
the
conversation
and
prevention.
Some
of
the
ways
that
we
work
to
address
some
of
the
feedback
we
received
last
time
with,
with.
J
That
intended
use
in
mind
right.
Well,
thanks
thanks
for
everyone's
time
this
evening.
Unfortunately,
the
more
you
get
the
benefit
of
not
seeing.
B
J
J
So
this
this
is
so
just
a
recap.
From
last
time,
we
presented
three
options,
one
we
called
Baseline
and
then
we
had
alternate
one
ultimate.
Two
and
Alternate
two
was
what
was
favored
by
the
committee
last
time,
and
we
have
been
proceeding
to
update
that
somewhat
and
you
can
see
in
this
massing
this
aerial
massing
view.
The
primary
difference
you
will
note
is
that
we've
added
Dormers
to
the
addition
to
give
it
a
little
bit
more
texture,
as
was
suggested.
We.
B
J
Look
at
trying
to
do
a
porch
on
the
on
the
entry
side,
not
enough
real
estate
there
to
do
that.
We
felt
and
also
the
fact
that,
just
behind
that
one
window,
that
you
see
in
the
addition,
our
bedrooms
in
the
driving
area
on
the
inside
as
well,
so
we
didn't
think
anything
good
to
have
something
that
was
lack
of
a
better
term.
An
attractive
nuisance.
To
have
people
want
to
occupy
that
space
directly
into
Jason,
but
we
did
add
Dormers
to
get
a
little
bit
more
texture.
J
You
know
that
that
attic
space
as
we
developed
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
into
your
layout
of
that
second
floor
in
the
additionals.
You
think
the
benefit
of
the
operations
that
that's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
storage
attic
and
we
think
we
can
get
access
from
the
second
floor
into
it
so
that
we
will.
You
know
those
aren't
fake
dorms
they'll
be
real
Dormers
with
real
Windows
to
get
some
light,
at
least
so.
The
next
next
sheet,
which
is
the
sort
of
down
on
the
ground,
massing
studies.
So
again
the
lower
right.
J
You
can
see
the
the
same
you're
seeing
the
Dormers
there
and
just
a
reminder
we're
still
on
a
concept
phase
here.
You
know
we
haven't
begun.
Even
begun
reconstruction
drugs.
There
will
be
more
detail
specific
detail
as
we
progress
into
that.
Hopefully,
if
we
we
can
get
to
the
full
board
this
month
and
get
you
know,
this
concept
approval
that
we're
going
to
race
right
into
that,
because
on
that
we're
going
to
want
to
get
it
done
as
quickly
as
possible.
K
C
J
The
eve
we
had
the
eve
aligning
with
that
intersect
ing
right
at
and
we
thought,
as
we
studied
a
little
bit
more
than
if
it
wasn't
a
header
in
the
addition.
So
we
raised
that
up.
We
actually
think
that
disjoining
those
helps
a
little
bit
some
distinction
between
the
existing
and
the
new
subtle
thing,
but
we
think
that's
that's.
D
J
Not
showing
we're
going
to
show
you
some
ramp
studies
that
were
asked
for
last
time.
That's
not
represented
here
we're
going
to
see
them.
J
So
the
what
I
will
note
on
this
again
you're,
seeing
the
doors
on
the
addition
of
the
far
left,
what
we,
what
was
talked
about
it
suggested
just
introduced
some
more
prominent
distinction
between
the
addition
and
foreign.
J
B
J
E
J
The
on
the
taller,
Farmhouse
and
then
the
original
tenant
house,
which
is
that
that
piece
that
drops
down
from
that
and
then,
if
we
bring
our
new
addition
to
drop
down
again
and
hit
this
kind
of
cascading
effect,
which
we
studied
briefly.
But
it's
usually
we
think
that
you
know.
So
if
we
have
this
continuity
of
the
roof
line,
we
certainly
have.
We
have
a
corner
there,
an
outside
corner,
and
then
we
have
a
setback,
because
that's
part
of
the
urd
report
set
back
two
feet
from
that
existing
corner.
J
So
we
do
have
a
mass
change
in
that
plane
and
we're
we're
hoping
that
you
know
this.
This
solution.
J
The
addition's
gonna
it's
gonna,
be
five
or
something
most
likely.
Pre-Finished
virusment
lab.
B
J
B
J
B
J
The
context
you
kind
of
see
it
on
on
the
upper
right
image,
the
context
of
where
the
parking
is
parking
is
directly
adjacent.
A
couple
of
handicap
spaces
there.
So
this
one
kind
of
brings
you
up
and
around
with
a
with
a
Switchback
we're
coming
in
sort
of
centered
on
that
column,
Bay
of
the
porch
at
the
left.
J
J
The
probably
third
well,
it
could
be
36.
It
may
be.
D
J
Yeah
I,
don't
think
that's
necessarily
bad,
so
the
the
the
guards
between
the
posts
we
don't
think
are
actually
required
by
code,
because
the
porch
isn't
that
high.
It
was
a
desirable
keep
residents
from
falling
off
so
I
think
from
that
perspective,
yeah
I
do
that
and
see.
If
that
alignment
provides.
J
Is
this,
and
is
your,
is
your
comment
on
that
relative
to
both
you
know
a
visual
from
the
ports
out,
but
also
that
that
alignment
and
elevation
right.
B
J
That's
so
that
yeah,
you
can
sort
of
sorry
it's
a
little
thumbnail
on
the
bottom
you're
seeing
that
access
in
relation
to
the
parking.
Well,
there
was
always
a
plan
to
be
sort
of
a
sidewalk
among
the
parking
at.
J
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
page,
please
the
second
option
was
an
option
that
someone
minimizes
it
does
the
same
thing.
You
know
it
keeps
the
top
stair
and
the
the.
B
J
E
Can
I
can
I
ask
a
question:
did
you
look
at
a
a
ramp
that
that
basically
comes
up
the
side
of
the
building?
It
would
require
kind
of
extending
those.
You
know
the
the
porch
platform.
You
know
the
the
two
steps
on
the
side
out.
You
know
to
receive
the
the
ramp,
but
just
keeping
the
ramp
all
the
way
against
the
the
side
of
the
building,
so
that
you
pretty
much
or
other
than
extending.
E
J
We
we
considered
it,
we
didn't,
we
didn't
draw
it
and
our
consideration
about
it.
We
started
put
the
the
access
point
to
the
ramp,
where
you
start
the
ramping
too
far
away
from
the
handicap
parking,
because
you
you
would
be
able
to
park
and
then
you'd
have
to
you
know,
circulate
through
sort
of
the
the
drive
aisle
aspect
of
the
parking
to
get
to
be
to
access
the
rain,
because.
B
J
J
Right,
we
didn't.
We
didn't
like
that
aspect
of
having
to
park
and
then
kind
of
wheel
through.
B
L
E
Well,
I
mean
it's
not
really
a
dry
ball,
it's
it's!
It's
the
you
know
it's
the
access
to
the
handicap
parking.
So
you're,
you
know
the
you
know.
It's
likely
that
you're
that
you're
going
to
be.
You
know
to
get
to
the
end
of
that
ramp.
You
would
be
going.
You
know
through
the
path
that
you
just
used
to
get
to
park
the
car.
Nobody
else
will
be
able
to
to
to
to
do
that
other
than
maybe
you
know
if
you're
in
the
other
handicapped,
the
one
handicap.
E
So
presumably
people
are
sensitive
about
that.
So
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
a
I
mean
I
know
this
is
it.
You
know
you
have
operational
issues,
but
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
it's
a
huge
issue
and
it
seems
from
a
historic
preservation
point
of
view
that
it
would
really
kind
of
leave
the
porch
alone
the
most,
particularly,
if
you're,
if
you're
going
to
have
guard
rail
elements,
you
know
because
which
I'm
not
sure
I
understand
again
why
the
guardrail
elements
are
needed
because
the
the
I
don't
it's
what
it
What
is
the.
E
What
is
the
the
maximum
is
what
about
15
inches?
You
know
that
you
know
from
the
change
of
grade.
It's
really
it's
really.
It's
really
not
very
some
substantial
I
mean
it's
it's
nowhere
near
what's
required
by
code.
So
if.
B
L
A
wheelchair
to
and
know
that,
you're
not
going
to
fall
off
the
end
of
something
we
have
residents
who
will
know
to
put
their
brakes
on
to
be
residents
who
maybe
take
their
brakes
off
because
they
want
to
go
and
look
at
the
edge
of
what's
going
on
down
in
the
park.
And
then
the
next
thing
you
know
they've
fallen
off
the
edge.
So.
E
Well,
that's
all
the
more
reason
why
I'm
I'm
yeah
I'm
wondering
about
you
know
putting
it
on
the
edge
of
the
building
the
but
but
in
the
grand
scale
of
things
you
know
this
I
think
this
is
an
important
element
but
I'm
I
I.
You
know
I
think
between
your
two
options
and
that
option
we
can
work
something
out,
I'm
sure
so,
I
don't
know
what
everybody
else
on
the
DRC
thinks
about
this.
You
know
please
weigh
in.
B
G
C
Like
the
uid,
only
because
the
use
or
give
you
I
mean
it
is
more
prominent
from
The
Parkside.
It
also
gives
the
person
descending
a
wheelchair
sort
of
a
nice
sort
of
Park
View.
As
you
I
just
sort
of
like
leave.
The
property
I
mean
it's
kind
of
a
nice
up,
a
little
Overlook
area
and
I'm,
like
maybe
somebody.
Maybe
it's
not
a
military,
may
want
to
go
up
there
and
kind
of
do
the
Overlook
as
well.
I
mean
I.
C
E
Andy,
let's
just
deal
with
the
ramp
right
now,
let's
just
finish
with
the
ramp,
so
I
mean
have
we
heard
from
Rebecca
on
this.
H
Not
yet
the
ramp
doesn't
bother
me
I,
understand
why
it's
shown
the
way
it
is,
but
aesthetically
I'm,
okay
with
it.
A
Is
there
any
information
about
whether
ramps,
particularly
for
this
height,
are
more
or
less
convenient
for
wheelchair
users
if
they
are
a
straight
shot
or
if
they
do
have
a
10.,
because
this
is
requiring
two
turns
to
get
into
this
space,
which
is
sometimes
hard
to
maneuver,
whereas
a
straight
shot
that
Mr
dudco
was
suggesting,
would
take
them
directly
up,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
so
high
that
the
that
grade
would
be
frustrating
I.
L
K
But
you
know
I
I
don't
have
as
much
experience
working
with
historic
population,
but
I
do
have
some
relatives
with
Mobility
impairments.
Elderly
relatives,
including
a
relative
that
has
both
physical
and
intellectual
disabilities
and.
K
Considering
there's
also
other
ranges
of
mobility
of
parents
where
you
still
use
a
ramp,
some
people
with
canes
people
with
Walkers
Etc,
who
are
not
necessarily
being
pushed
so
I,
would
say
that
anything
that
we
can
do
to
keep
the
span.
You
know
not
not
require
you
know
continually
people's
homes
they're
going
to
be
coming
in
and
out
potentially
multiple
times
a
day.
So
if
we're
extending
or
the
ramp
length,
then
you
are
adding.
You
know
a
non-trick
for
someone
with
Mobility
impairments.
It's
a
non-trivial
burden
to
extend
their
walk
by.
K
K
It
does
person's
perspective.
I
would
say
it
was
more
along
the
comment
of
extending
the
ramp
up
the
side
of
the
house,
because
then
to
me
the
concern
is
less
about
I
mean
there
is
a
concern
about
going
into
the
drive
lane,
but
it
is
just
the
extending
the
span
that
significantly
would
be
all
those
you
know,
extra
steps
that
you'd
be
requiring
every
time
a
resident
needs
to
come
in.
A
K
E
Well,
let
me
I,
you
know:
I
I
found
omari's
com
comment,
intriguing,
I
I've
also
had
dealt
with
a
a
relative
who,
who
was
in
a
wheelchair
and
so
I'm
I'm
familiar
with
these
issues
as
well,
and
what
I
found
interest.
I
I
agree
that
the
longer
the
distance
and
the
more
turns
and
so
forth,
on
the
other
hand,
often
if
people
need
to
rest
and
they
need
to
take
a
break,
it's
you
know
the.
E
It
seems
to
me
that
the
the
the
the
u-shaped
one
as
Amari
was
saying
gives
you
the
opportunity
to.
You
know
basically
take
a
breather.
You
can
you
know
you
can
rest
at
the
rail
there
and
look
at
the
park.
You
don't
have
to
you
know,
so
it
actually
makes
it
a
reason
why
it's
not
a
bad
thing
to
do
and
I
and
the
other
one,
although
it
may
be
a
little
bit
shorter,
it
really
kind
of
bothers
me
the
way
it
it
obscures.
E
The
steps
and
I
would
worry
that
somebody
might
you
know,
coming
down
the
steps
you
know
might
might
stumble
or,
or
you
know,
or
you
know
it's
it's
hard
to
make.
You
know
somebody
wants
to
do
the
steps
with
a
cane
or
something
it's.
It's
gonna
make
it
difficult
for
them
to
maneuver.
You
know
between
the
the
ramp
and
the
corner
of
the
building,
whereas
the
other
one
leaves
the
steps
open.
If
you
want
to
try
to.
E
If
you
want
to
use
the
the
steps
they're,
they're,
free
and
clear,
and
presumably
there
would
be
some
sort
of
a
handrail
that
would
assist
somebody
who
wanted
to
you
know,
navigate
the
the
the
the
how
many
Rises
of
that
four
risers
three
risers,
because
I
I've,
also
I
I,
also
dealt
with
a
relative
who,
who
had
a
an
artificial
leg
and
she
insisted
on
doing
steps
herself.
E
You
know
without
without
a
wheelchair,
she
she
would
walk
up
the
steps
and,
and
so
I
think
for
a
lot
of
people
having
that
free
and
clear
would
be
valuable,
so
I
I,
you
know
if
we're
not
going
to
consider
the
one
along
the
along
the
side
of
the
building,
I,
think
I'm
with
Amari,
and
that
I
prefer
the
u-shaped
one.
Even
though
it's
a
little
bit
more
cumbers,
some,
it's
bigger
relative
to
the
porch
I
think
it
offers
its
own
benefits
as
as
Omari
was
saying
it
it
it
it
almost.
E
You
know,
recapitulates
the
it
gives
you
a
place
to
stop
and
look
at
the
the
park,
which
is
a
which
is
an
incredibly
beautiful
view,
and
that's
something
that
you
know
everybody
should
be.
You
know
benefiting
from
that's
one
of
the
beauties
of
this
particular
building.
You
know
that
that
all
these
residents
are
going
to
have
this
incredible
front
yard.
A
A
A
D
B
D
Becomes
much
more
prominent
than
the
front
porch
I'm
checked.
I
think
that
the
L-shaped
one
is
the
best
solution,
because
this
is
going
to
be
viewed
from
below
and
that
ramp
projects
out
further
than
the
torch.
The
porch
was
the
most
visible
portion
received
from
the
loan
in
the
parking
up
the
hill
and
let's
this
morning.
E
I
I
think
that's
a
good
comment
Andy,
which
is
why
I
think
we're
you
know,
I
think
it's
I
I
wouldn't
dismiss
the
the
ramp
up
the
side
of
the
building
because
I,
even
the
even
the
the
L-shaped
one
does
you
know
present
some.
E
You
know
you
know
some
something
of
that
aspect,
but
you're
right.
This
is
this.
Is
you're
gonna
see
this
particularly
if
it,
if
it's
going
to
have
the
guard
rail
which
I
understand
that
so
well,
why
don't
we,
since
this
is
the
major
part
of
the
I,
think
you've
heard
our
comments
on
this?
Maybe
you
can,
you
know,
come
back
to
us
with
something
the
next
time.
E
Why
don't
we
move
on
to
the
I'm,
not
sure
we're
gonna
settle
this
right
now,
but,
let's
maybe
we
should
then
move
on
to
the
other,
the
other,
the
the
addition
can.
D
We
ask
one
more
question
all
right:
I
guess
what
I'm
wondering
I
can
appreciate
the
fact
that
you'll
get
a
view
off
the
door
on
the
original
L
Editions
to
the
house
that
that
actually,
that
deliver
makes
because
it's
higher
visually
and
launching
or
whatever
it
makes
the
focus
on
the
roof
instead
of
the
cable
front
in
The,
Farmhouse
I
would
rather
see
the
former
on
the
other
side
of
the
roof
Ridge
completely.
D
E
J
J
So
on
the
left
is
the
proposed
plan.
I
showed
you
a
new
stair
that
that
Stacks
over
the
existing
stair
homes
we're
creating
that
new
stair
from
two
up
to
the
end
and
on
the
next
sheet
you
can
see
where
that
lands
in
the
attic
and
that
dashed
rectangle.
That's
a
little
faint,
which
you
can
kind
of
see.
If
that's
where
the
Dormer
is
because
that's
where
we
need
the
Headroom
at
the
top
of
us.
Okay.
E
All
right
and
Andy
I
think
the
one
of
the
reasons
we
went
with
the
shed
was
because
we
felt
it
was
less
conspicuous
than
a
than
a
a
Gable,
which
you
know
what,
which
I
think
would
would
be
even
more.
You
know
visually
distracting
to
the
you
know.
You
know
it.
You
know
to
your
comment,
I
think,
that's
why
we
were.
We
were
looking
at
doing
it
as
a
shed.
The
last
time
we
talked
about
this.
E
And
you
know,
and
there's
probably
ways
that
you
you
know
with
the
way
it's
painted,
that
it
would
it
would
you
know,
kind
of
Fade
Into,
the
roof,
more
I'm
sure
there's,
there's
ways
to
you
know
make
it
less
prominent,
so
I
I,
don't
think
it's
hugely
distracting
right
now,
but
I
think
it
could
even
it
could
even
kind
of
merge
into
the
roof
even
more
but
yeah.
E
Yeah
so
I
think
I
I
agree
that
the
you
know
that
raising
the
Eve
is
a
good
idea.
I
think
breaking
that
from
the
you
know,
the
or
Jason
roof,
instead
of
just
having
it
extrude
around
is
good.
I
still
feel
like
it
needs
more,
a
little
bit
more
articulation,
I'm,
not
sure
what
exactly
I
was
I.
Was
that
the
reason
we
had
suggested
the
porch
last
time
is
that
an
an
egress
that
door
like
a
fire
egress
at
the
end?
Yeah?
Yes,
okay,
so
that
yes.
B
E
Okay,
yeah
I
mean
I
I
feel
like
it
just
it's.
Maybe
some
of
this
is
because
it
isn't
it
doesn't.
Have
you
know
the
the
perspectives?
Don't
have
the
detail.
That
would
that
would
you
know,
give
you
you
know
the
the
you
know
the
the
collaborative
texture
and
and
the
corner
boards,
and
all
that
stuff.
You
know
it
it.
E
It
still
feel
it
feels
a
little
schematic
to
me,
but
maybe
that
will
improve
it's.
It
feels
like
it
needs
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
that
means.
You
know
I
agree,
I,
think
the
porch
would
be
part
of
that,
but.
E
Them
right,
well,
I,
think
I
think
for
I
think
definitely
I
I
agree
with
raising
the
the
the
Eve
I
think
that
really
helps
and
it
you
know,
and
it
seems
to
raise
it
to
roughly
the
level
of
the
of
the
porch.
So
it
sort
of
starts
to
tie
it
in
with
the
porch,
which
is
nice
and-
and
it
makes
me
wonder
if
you
know
maybe
there's
some
way
of
articulating.
You
know
the
surface
with.
C
On
the
on
the
laundry
Portugues
around
on
the
corner
there,
how
is
that
Ministry
is
that
Bloody,
glass
or
the
open
screening,
porch
or.
J
J
J
In
the
existing
open
porch,
absolutely
there
is
some
exposed
exist.
You
know
original
Woodside,
it's
not
an
particularly
bad
condition.
I
hope
all
that
when
we
were
moving
yeah
women
deciding
that
will
find
generally.
B
A
I
know
that
our
Lauren-
you
may
have
a
comment
about
this
too
I-
know
that
the
supervisor
for
our
program
was
a
little
sad
to
see
the
comment
about
the
front
door
because
she
remembered
there
being
the
wooden
door
with
a
glass
insert
with
some
detail,
and
she
wasn't
sure
if
that
had
been
removed.
M
M
I
was
looking
desperately
for
photos
that
I
feel
like
I
probably
took
like
20
years
ago,
but
I
can't
find
them
anymore.
The
best
that
I
could
find
was
in
the
original
2004
Milner
report.
There
was
a
a
drawing
that
elevation
drawings
in
it
and
it
showed
kind
of
a
rough
detail
of
what
that
original
door
opening
was,
and
so
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
pose
the
question
again.
M
J
M
Yeah,
thank
you.
We
appreciate
that,
and
you
know
the
door
is
it's:
it's
not
going
to
be
the
most
elaborate
front
door
you
all
have
ever
seen,
but
it
was
quite
an
elaborate
feature,
I
think
for
the
time
period
of
this
house
and
when
it
would
have
been
installed
so
I
I
think
finding
another
place
for
it
somewhere
within
the
home.
For
another
purpose.
We
would
really
appreciate
that
yep.
I
I
had
an
app
that
Cynthia
yeah,
you
got
it
with
the
doors.
That's
good,
I
I
did
have.
One
question,
though
I
just
want
to
ask
about
the
the
parking
I'm
curious
just
know
are
because
you
all
have
you're
expanding
the
parking
surface
area
a
bit
on
the
site
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
understand
the
requirement
of
the
spaces
that
you
need
for
the
amount
of
people
that
will
be
living
there.
L
B
L
Home
around
the
home
at
the
home
and
have
ability
to
be
picked
up
and
go
to
work.
Often
that's
in
a
a
metro,
access
system,
Metro
access
style,
vehicle
and
so
for
that
to
be
able
to
get
to
the
top
of
the
hill
pick
up
people
and
then
leave
their
space
at
the
top
of
the
hill,
but
around
in
the
parking
pad
needs
to
be
sizable
enough.
L
For
that
to
happen
with
our
that
accidents
and
recognizing
the
just
the
skillfulness
of
people
being
able
to
reverse
people
will
and
that's
a
big
priority
for
us-
is
that
when
they're,
where,
when
this
weather
or
other
interruptions
to
business
operations,
we
want
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
people
get
to
the
top
of
the
hill
to
get
people
away
as
as
necessary.
So.
F
A
M
I
just
had
two
more
quick
questions:
I
don't
mean
to
take
over
the
meeting.
Robert
I
I
want
to
make
sure
DRC
members
have
time
to
comment.
Correct,
okay,
go
ahead,
go
ahead,
I
feel
like
since
we're
in
the
staff
reporting
section
anyway.
Just
a
quick
question.
I
think
this
is
more
for
Scott
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
M
J
M
And
then
my
other
question
just
this
is
merely
out
of
curiosity,
because
the
hlrb
does
not
have
purview
over
color,
but
I
wanted
to
raise
the
question
because
I
thought
that
might
be
a
way
to
perhaps
further
differentiate
the
old
and
the
new
construction
on
the
rear
and
was
wondering.
Are
you
have
you
thought
as
far
as
color
scheme?
Are
you
planning
to
keep
the
traditional
white
or
were
you
thinking
of
mixing
it
up
a
little
bit
with
with
the
different
color
palette.
M
D
A
Well,
are
there
any
other
killer
elements
you
want
to
drop
in
people,
no
I
think.
J
C
A
break
and
the
planes
were
face
to
face
I,
don't
think
it
makes
sense
too.
It
would
be
sort
of
you
need
to
be
sort
of
a
Mama
Bear
papa
bear
in
a
behavior
situation.
B
C
Guess
the
obviously
there's
no
window
to
sort
of
it
left
science
or
the
the
existing
there.
It
is
I
mean
it's
a
little
bit.
Blank
I
understand
the
reason
why
I'm
not
sure
I
mean
maybe
he's
too
cute,
but
half
of
them
like
fake
window
there,
but
it
is
the
blank,
is
kind
of
dollars.
It's
not
my
favorite
part
of
the
house,
but
I
understand
that
the
program-wise
I
think
that's
something
to
put
there.
But
this
kind
of
thing
you
guys
can
think
of
for
a
minute.
J
J
A
A
B
F
E
Serena,
can
you
hear
me
this
is
Robert.
Yes,.
E
Back
I'm
on
the
phone,
my
charger
died
and,
and
so
my
computer,
just
clunked
out
and
anyways
I'm
I
mean
I'm.
I'm
I
can
hear
you
and
I
am
I.
Have
the
drawings
up
on
my
iPad,
which
I
can't
sign
in
on
so
I
can
hear
you
so
I
and
I
can
see.
If
you
just
say
what
drawing
is
up
on
the
screen.
I
can
follow
along
here.
No
problem
so
page.
B
A
That,
like
rule
I,
assume,
there's
gonna
have
to
be
at
least
one
if
not
two
elevators
lifts
in
the
space,
and
so
will
those
be
Central
or
is
that
going
to
be?
Obviously
you
can't
happen.
You
can
have
Windows
against.
B
D
D
J
You
follow
me:
I
do
midnight,
I,
guess
my
hesitation
hasn't
there
there
isn't
that
I!
Guess
on
the
forge
there
too
say
there
isn't
a
year,
but
I
guess
there
are
porch
big
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
that
end
is
to
really
mimic
the
end.
Elevation
that
exists
today.
B
J
J
Doing
we
have
continued
the
E
so
and,
given
that
two
foot
setback
from
that
existing
core,
that
means
we've
got
a
deeper
Eve
on
the
addition.
We
could
not
do
that.
We
could.
You
know
you
know,
pull
that
Eve
back
to
having
the
same
relationship
with
Eve
to
face
a
building
which
would
give
you
a
break
in
the
evil.
D
I
Oh,
hey
everybody,
it's
Lauren,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
I
mean
if
I'm
sensing
that
maybe
the
DRC
has
kind
of
finished
with
some
of
their
comments.
Unless
anybody
wants
to
point
out
anything
else
that
they'd
like
to.
E
No
I
I
think
I
think
we've
covered
it.
I
Okay,
then,
my
next
question
then,
for
the
DRC
is
right.
Now
what
we've
been
envisioning
for
this
project
is
to
see
when
it's
ready
to
be
presented
to
the
full
halrb,
so
they
can
start
getting
familiar
with
the
project
and
see
how
comfortable
they
are
with
the
massing.
I
The
placement,
the
roof,
shape
more
of
the
bigger
items
than
down
to
the
details
that
we
will
eventually
get
down
to
such
as
materials
and
and
that
will
also
determine
things
like
how
the
condition
of
the
material
is
underneath
the
siding
and
whatnot,
but
I
wanted
to
see
how
people
feel
about
the
hlrb
being
able
to
see
this
during
the
April
meeting.
E
I'm
I'm,
okay
with
it
I
think
I
I
would
I
would
urge
the
applicant
to
you
know,
look
at
it
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
regard
to
the.
E
In
regard
to
the
the
addition,
you
know,
look
at
the
change
that
that
you
that
you
know
just
proposed
about
you
know
notching
the
Eve
on
the
back
I
I
would!
Even
if
you
you
don't
you
know
you
don't
like
it.
If
you
could
come
with
with
the
you
know,
with
a
a
proposal
to
do
the
ramp
on
the
side
of
the
building,
I
think
you're
going
to
get
the
same.
E
Questions
from
the
full
board,
particularly
I,
think
there's
a
there
is
a
board
member
who's
very,
very
interested
in
this
project
and
he's
very
familiar
with
it.
So
I'm
I'm
sure
he
will
ask
questions
in
regard
to
that.
So
I
think
you
know
having
some
proposal
where
it
is
along
the
edge
of
the
building
and
and
completely
leaves
the
porch
Alone
I.
Think
we'll
we'll
be
necessary
so
that
we're
not
talking
about
it
in
the
abstract.
E
B
E
I
And
just
so,
everybody
knows
that
this
would
be
like
a
preliminary
COA
like
it's.
It's.
I
I
I
mean
it's
a
progress
check,
but
it's
this
is
something
that
they
Mike.
You
can
probably
refresh
my
memory
on
what
the
LOI
states
that
we
need
to
at
least
get
a
partial
conditional
COA
that
things
are
going
in
the
right
direction
and
then,
once
we
get
closer
to
the
idea
of
conveyance
from
the
County
Board
to
Habitat,
that
you
would
need
to
have
a
finalized
DOA.
K
Specify
in
the
letter
of
intent
and
that
conditional
additional
COA
gives
us
sort
of
the
go-ahead
to
add
more
detail
to
get
answer.
Some
of
the
questions
do
more
of
our
due
diligence
that
will
sort
of
clear
out
some
of
these
path
dependencies
and
that
will
help
us
get
to
a
full
certificate
of
appropriateness,
which
is
necessary
for
us
to
get
to
it
to
get
to
the
conveyance
of
the
property
which
will
allow.
I
M
Thank
you.
So
this
is
very
exciting,
like
we're
getting
closer
everybody,
so
I
I
wanted
to
make
one
suggestion
to
to
help
perhaps
keep
the
next
conversation
with
the
full
board
very
focused
on
what
DRC
has
been
reviewing.
I
think
it's
staff's
advice
that,
when
you're
compiling
the
submission
packet
for
the
full
hlrb
later
this
month
to
really
focus
on
this
option.
What
are
we
calling
this?
M
The
second
option,
I
forget
what
it
was
originally
called
last
month,
but
the
one
that
we've
been
discussing
for
the
past
two
months,
I
think
it
would
be
really
helpful
to
just
have
them
hone
in
on
the
drc's
preference
point.
M
I
think
it
would
be
okay
to
have
the
other,
the
other
drawings,
the
other
iterations,
of
how
you
all
got
to
this
point
kind
of
waiting
in
the
wings,
and
we
can
have
that
pulled
up
ready
in
case
people
want
to
understand
the
evolution
of
how
we
got
here,
but
I
think
this
would
really
help
Focus
the
conversation
if
they
just
had
this
one
design
to
to
put
their
attention
to
so
I
I
leave
that
up
to
you,
Scott
and
Mike
and
others
on
the
team
to
kind
of
think
through
that
advice.
M
M
Good
question
I
think:
maybe
just
have
it
separately
and
then
pull
it
up
if
needed.
I
I'm,
not
I,
I-
think
there's
definitely
enough
to
talk
about
with
this
preferred
iteration,
but
depending
on
where
the
conversation
goes
at
least
we
would
know
we
would
have
that
other
material
handy
I,
just
don't
want
to
overwhelm
them
with
too
many
drawings
and
too
many
scenarios
and
have
them
get
confused
as
to
what's
really
preferred
because.
B
M
J
J
A
Not
proposing
those
it
would
be
up
to
you,
but
I
wouldn't
and
then
I
would
say
if
you
wanted
to
learn
more
about
it
all
of
the
drawings
that
you've
given
us
have
already
been
posted
on
the
deal,
so
they
can
check
them
at
any
time.
In
this
way,
they
will
not
be
confused
by
the
way
this
was
before
this
yeah
now
they're.
Only
seeing
the
submissions.
M
M
Fine,
okay
and
then
I
guess
it
goes
without
saying
so,
Robert's
you
know
kind
of
summary
of
looking
at
notching
the
eve
perhaps
proposing
you
know
showing
a
drawing
that
has
the
ramp
on
the
side
of
the
house.
You
can
include
that
in
your
packet,
because
those
are
all
things
that
DRC
has
commented
on
and
they've
they've
discussed
with
you
all,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
other
the
Baseline
and
option
one
and
whatever
the
other
option
was
really
are
separate
and
everyone
will
be
focused
on
this
pocket
understood.
D
A
Wonderful,
okay!
Well,
unless
there
are
additional
comments,
our
agenda.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time,
but
very
late,
but
I
appreciate
all
of
the
income.