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A
Guru
on
a
lot
of
issues,
including
rights
for
individuals
under
guardianship,
and
so
he
just
called
me
because
she
found
out
I
was
the
chair
and
they
are
and
she's
are
you
a
chair?
Are
they
aging
advisory
Commission,
because
I
I
wrote
that
you
were.
B
A
B
Great
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
and
for
making
room
on
your
agenda
because
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
other
things
going
on
and
I
think
that
just
overall,
it's
a
great
idea
for
the
Commission
on
Aging
and
the
disability
advisory
commission
to
work
work
together
on
things,
and
so
hopefully
this
will
be
a
harbinger
of
things
to
come
and
so
I
bring.
B
You
greetings
from
the
rest
of
the
commission
and
they're
very
happy
to
hear
that
I
was
meeting
with
you
all
tonight,
so
the
Commission
on
Aging,
and
particularly
it's
housing
committee.
B
We
have
a
very
strong
committee
system
and
all
the
Committees
are
very
strong
and
active
and
housing
is
pretty
pretty
gung-ho
about
a
lot
of
things,
and
one
thing
that
they've
been
interested
in
for
many
years
is
the
idea
of
a
livability
and
Universal
Design.
So
here
we're
not
talking
about
ADA
access,
we're
not
talking
about
things
that
are
covered
under
the
Americans,
with
Disabilities
Act
or
in
fact
any
other
federal
or
state
law.
B
Rather
we're
talking
about
things
that
are
specifically
not
regulated
so
that
they
could
be
negotiated
in
a
site
plan
review
context.
B
We
have
a
great
interest
in
Universal
Design
in
these
multi-family
units
and
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
each
of
these
projects
must
go
through
a
site
plan
review
committee,
and
so
our
idea
was
which
is
basically
a
negotiating
back
and
forth
because
the
developer
has
to
provide
you
know
Monies
to
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
to
that
today,
housing
investment
fund
or
do
other
things
for
affordability.
And
then
this
is
also
a
good
place
to
raise
awareness
about
some
design
issues,
because
it's
it's
very
much
of
a
negotiation.
B
And
so
actually,
the
idea
of
having
a
checklist
was
came
directly
from
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission.
When
we
talked
about
our
idea,
they
said
yes,
we
would
love
to
have
a
checklist,
so
so
they
sent
us
off
and
we
started
working
on
a
checklist.
We
knew
that
we
didn't
have
the
expertise
to
do
that
ourselves
and,
in
fact,
we
welcome
your
expertise
because
it's
greater
than
ours,
but
we
did
work
with
a
certified
cap,
which
is
a
certified
Aging
in
place.
Specialist.
B
Who
knows
a
lot
about
Universal
Design
features
and
she
helped
us
to
draft
a
pretty
exhaustive
checklist,
which
was
much
longer
than
the
one
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
and
in
fact
that
was
problematic,
because
we
inadvertently
included
things
that
were
covered
under
the
Ada
or
covered
under
some
other
federal
or
state
law.
And
we
didn't
know,
and
so
the
County's
Inspection
Division
came
to
our
Aid
and
helped
us
to
sort
out
what
is
regulated
and
what
is
not
regulated
and
they
gave
us
a
big
old
spreadsheet.
And
so
what.
A
For
a
second
Erica,
absolutely
Courtney
is
the
Kelly
inspection
commission
or
the
one
that
came
to
visit
us
and
talk
about
ADA
compliance
issues.
Could
you
remind
who
it
was
that
met
with
you.
B
Yeah,
it
was
Sharia
Amiri
and
a
staff
member
Todd
Connors.
Yes,
that
was
a.
A
Okay,
good
all
right,
so
he
he
reviewed
the
checklist
and
he
said
that
some
of
the
stuff
we
put
in
were
already
required
by
the
Ada.
Exactly.
B
Exactly
so,
they
took
those
all
out,
and
so
the
checklist
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
is
about
only
about
a
third
of
the
length
that
it
was
and
that's
fine.
So
it's
really
pared
down.
So
none
of
the
things
on
the
list
are
required.
We
have
a
section
at
the
end
for
items
that
are
required
or
type
a
accessible
units,
but
not
for
type
B
adaptable
units,
and
we
know
that
almost
all
the
great
majority
of
the
units
are
type
B
units.
B
So
we
put
that
in
as
well,
so
again
we're
not
looking
for
things
that
are
regulated,
we're
looking
at
things
that
would
make
life
better
for
someone
who
is
going
to
be
living
in
these
buildings
and.
E
So
black
call
recall
correct
correctly:
you
brought
this
to.
B
Doris,
your
memory
is
excellent
and
actually
I
was
just
about
to
say
that
we
we
put
that
we
went
back
to
the
Planning
Commission,
virtually
in
September
20
2021.,
and
they
asked
a
number
of
questions
and
we
told
them.
It
was
just
a
draft
and
that
it
was
still
evolving
and
they
sent
us
off
again
and
it
it
wasn't
until
so.
B
What
brought
about
our
approach
to
you
is
that
we,
you
know,
we
didn't
know
how
to
move
this
forward,
and
we
we
ended
up
meeting
with
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission
Elizabeth
Garen,
who
has
been
working
with
site
plan
review
committees
for
a
long
time,
and
we
met
with
her
and
she
was
very
enthusiastic
about
the
checklist
and
said
that
we
should
reach
out
to
other
County
entities
in
the
first
County
entity
that
she
mentioned
was
the
disability,
advisory
commission
and
and
that's
how
I
came
to
contact
Elizabeth
who
I
I
was
fortunate
to
already
know
her
so
fit
together.
B
Very
well,
and
we
we
feel
like
you,
could
have
some
great
input
on
this
project
and
the
housing
Committee
in
fact
just
met
today,
and
they
said.
Could
you
ask
them
that?
Is
you
the
commission,
your
commission,
to
appoint
a
representative
to
work
with
us
on
this
project?
So
that's
my
that's
my
ask.
F
And
that's
why
the
reason
I
asked
the
question
at
this
point
was
because
you
are
somebody
just
mentioned
that
many
of
the
features
and
elements
that
are
in
your
checklist
are
already
required
under
the
law.
But
this
is
for
residential
right.
F
Yeah,
so
so
so
so
the
first
just
to
clarify
that
the
Ada
does
not
cover
residential
unless
it's
public
housing
citizens.
B
F
And,
and
so
the
the
law
in
play
right
is
their
Housing
Act
amendments
and
also
the
State
Building
Code,
which
which
does
have
requirements
for
fully
accessible
type
A
units
and
for
the
most
part,
I
do
believe
they.
They
they
parallel
section,
50
or
youth,
as
requirements
for
Federal
Way
funded
housing
and
require
a
rolling
shower
rather
than
a
tub,
so
which
would
be
a
type
B
unit.
But
but
so
the
thing
you've
added
some
things
that
are
in
the
Universal
Design
guidelines
that
apply
to
things
like
appliances.
F
Was
one
are
you
thinking
having
been
it
at
site
plan
review?
There
is
a
section
of
the
site
plan
review,
that
is,
architecture
and
accessibility
and
mostly
they're,
coming
bricks
and
mortar
okay.
F
So
would
this
be
like
a
like
a
I'm
looking
for
the
a
voluntary
technical
side
to
Universal
Design
and
not
considered
a
a
site
plan
convention,
which
is
you
know,
formal
formal
requirements
so
like
right
now,
quality
family
residential
has
has
a
site
plan
convention
that
requires
new,
build
buildings
to
have
automatically
you
know
main
entry,
doors
and
garage
entries,
so
that
accessibility
feature
which
is
beyond
fair
housing
and
and
behind
off
Beyond
beautiful
would
would
be,
is
something
that's
required,
but
so
it
it
is
your
checklist,
something
that
you
would
like
to
see.
F
Or
you
know,
as
a
technical
preferred
guide
of
some
kind,
because
one
thing
about
site
plan
review:
is
they
don't
get
into
much
news
about
accessibility
except
things
like
you
know
the
number
of
units,
so
they
know
how
it
fits
into
the
building.
F
B
B
Do
think
that
your
comment
about
it's
mostly
the
site
plan
review
committee
focuses
more
on
the
bricks
and
the
mortar,
and
you
know
ours,
Falls
more
on
the
voluntary
side
and
what
Elizabeth
Guerin
said
to
us
is
that
more
and
more
often
it
because
the
site
plan
review
committees
are
getting
very,
more
and
more
complicated
and
longer
and
longer
and
they're
trying
to
streamline
them,
and
so
she
gave
examples
of
how
they
could
send
various
members
of
various
organized
advocacy
organizations
off.
B
You
know
off-site
so
to
speak
and
say
here
you
guys
you
care
about
this
agree
on
it
and
come
back
to
us
with
an
ask
and
we'll
consider.
You
know
putting
that
high
on
the
radar
screen
for
the
for
the
developer,
I
mean
that's
pretty
much
the
idea.
She
also
told
us
that
of
I
don't
know
what
this
stands
for:
e2c2
or
E.
It's
not
not
Star
Trek,
but
there
is
there
is
another
committee
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
the
environment
and
they
have
a
checklist.
A
That
things
will
recommendations
will
be
made
and
then
it
will
be
go
back
to
you
mean
the
two
is
the
housing
planning
committee
and
if
I
have
that
correct?
What
kind
of
authority
does
the
housing
planning
committee
have
in
Arlington.
B
No
I
meant
that
when
I
say
go
off
site,
I
meant
that,
for
example,
if
there,
if
there
were
many
livability
features
that
you
all
came
up
with
and
we
came
up
with
and
we
made
a
list
like
this
checklist.
This
is
a
start.
Is
all
that
if
we,
if
we
agree
if,
instead
of
taking
time
in
the
the
site
plan
review
committee
itself,
we
could
go
back
and
say
the
these
two
things.
B
You
know
having
a
bench
in
the
entryway
and
you
know
having
sufficient
Lighting
in
the
kitchen
or
something
like
that
that
these
are
our
highest
priorities.
And
we
want
the
developer
to
be
aware
of
those.
How
the
site
plan
review
committee
actually
folds,
that
in
I'm,
not
as
sort
of
higher
than
my
pay
grade,
but
that
that's
kind
of
what
Elizabeth
Guerin
told
us.
A
B
Yes,
no
so
for
each
they're
they're
a
creature
of
the
Planning
Commission,
so
they're
entirely
part
of
the
Planning
Commission,
and
so
that
the
Planning
Commission
puts
together
a
site
plan
review
committee
for
each
building
project.
That's
going
up,
for
example!
Today
and
in
our
housing
committee
we
were
talking
about
the
two
sunrises
there's
a
there's,
a
assisted
living
sunrise
in
North
Arlington
and
one
in
South
Arlington,
and
they
both
well.
B
The
one
in
South
Arlington
is
getting
ready
to
have
its
site
plan
review
committee
and
the
one
in
North
Arlington
hasn't
got
to
that
point
yet,
but
so
the
Commission
on
Aging
has
a
seat
on
the
sunrise
site
plan
review
committee.
The
commission,
your
commission
could
too,
if
you
were
interested
in
that
and
so
in.
In
that
way,
the
Commission
on
Aging
can
raise
concerns
that
will
be
part
of
the
overall
negotiating
platform
of
the
the
Planning
Commission.
B
Hour,
yeah,
that's
right!
That's
right
and
Cindy.
There
were
two
members
there
from
the
Commission
on
Aging,
Cindy,
Cindy
and
Andrea.
They
were
both
there
I
believe
anyway,
but.
C
F
G
F
C
B
So,
with
sunrise
North,
they
needed
to
change,
they
need
to
change
the
zoning,
and
so
they
have
a
glop,
a
general
land
use
plan
and
that's
the
phase
that
they're
in
right
now,
but
and
so
they
can't
get
to
the
site
plan
review
process.
Until
if
there's
a,
if
there's
a
glop
needed,
then
they
have
to
do
that
first
and
then
they
put
together
a
site
plan
review
committee
and
you
know
commissions
that
want
a
seat
at
the
table.
B
A
Housing
structure
in
the
county,
but
I
had
told
her
that
we
as
a
as
a
commission,
have
been
concerned
that
there's
nobody
in
the
county
that
even
seems
to
do
an
adequate
review,
for
you
know
new
public
housing
to
see
if
it
would
comply
with
the
Ada
or
multi-family
disease
that
would
comply
with
a
fair
housing
act
and
I,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
might
jointly
advocate
for
is
who
would
be
or
could
we
have
somebody
that
would
look
into
whether
the
site
plan
reviewers
considered
livability?
A
F
The
accessibility
of
during
the
site
plan
portion,
not
the
land
use
portion,
but
the
site
plans
of
process
has
an
agenda
item
specific
to
accessibility.
But
it's
one
of
the
sub
agenda
items
under
the
architecture
portion
and
the
meetings
are
broken
up.
It
used
to
be
broken
up
into
three
or
four
meetings,
and
they
got
into
some
more
of
the
detail
without
without
somebody
advocating
hard
than
it
is
now,
because
they
consider
their
more
streamlined
case
than
trying
to
get
the
whole
thing
done
in
two
meetings
am
I
characterizing
that
right,
Erica.
B
Yes,
I
think
so,
and
that
goes
along
with
what
Elizabeth
Garen
told
us.
She
said
that
the
meetings
were
getting
longer
and
longer
and
more
complex
and
that
they
had
to
find
a
way
to
to
streamline
them
and
so
and
they
were
still
working
on
that
and.
F
F
A
F
See
and
then
then,
the
process
was
just
recently
revised
so
that
they
know
exactly
who
each
who
everyone
was
going
to
be
in
the
Planning
Commission.
You
know
nice
so
so,
then,
and
then,
in
addition
to
that
Civic
associations
that
are
the
neighbors,
whatever
the
process
are
sit
at
the
table
as
well:
okay,
okay
and
and
and
sometimes
some
other
Association,
mostly
the
neighbors
civic
association.
So
and
they
sit
at
the
table,
they
hear
the
presentations
and
then
they
all
the
way.
F
They're
structuring
the
meetings,
get
a
chance
to
ask
questions
and
and
usually
the
best
of
the
chair
for
the
site
plan
committees
will
get
to
everyone.
That's
at
the
table.
But
in
addition
to
that
really,
if
it's
a
hot
topic
site
plan,
then
there'll
be
members
of
the
community
in
the
past
they're
in
person
now,
either
in
person
or
virtual
and
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
They
are
given
time
to
make
comments.
A
So
one
of
the
things
I
was
thinking
is
in
addition
to
giving
comments
on
the
draft
plan.
Maybe
what
are
if
they?
If
we
think
we're
going
to
get
anywhere
with
the
Housing
Commission?
Maybe
we
can
join
with
the
Aging
commission
and
advertising
or
getting
up
support
for
livability
I.
C
A
Super,
so
what
is
your
time
frame
for
getting
our
comments
back
I
only
shared
I
mean
we
only
shared
this
with
folks
yesterday.
So.
B
Sure
so
this
is
still
a
very
much
a
work
in
progress
and
we
would
welcome
so
we
next
meet.
Let
me
put
it
this
way.
The
housing
Committee
of
the
Commission
on
Aging
just
met
today,
and
we
we'll
meet
again
June
June,
13th
I
would
say
if
you
could
get
us
comments
before
June
13th.
That
would
be
great,
but
what
would
be
even
greater
would
be
if
you
wanted
to.
This
was
just
suggested
today.
B
They
said:
ask
them
for
somebody
to
work
with
us
and
represent
the
DAC
on
on
concerning
this
project.
So
if
you
would
welcome
any
comments
you
have
in
in
writing
or
orally,
or
anybody
that
you
want
to
send
to
our
housing
committee
to
help
us
work
on
this
as
well.
G
Yeah,
so
is
the
Commission
on
Aging
looking
to
establish
a
working
group
to
sort
of
Flesh
us
out
more
and
do
a
more
in-depth
resource
for
developers
and
staff,
or
are
we
hoping
to
keep
this
quick
and
good
at
you
know
approved
by
the
County
board,
or
they
gobble
out
for
the
year.
B
Yeah
I,
I
I,
don't
think
we're
looking
for
the
degree
of
formality
that
would
require
a
County
board
approval.
We
do
we
do.
We
would
require
Planning
Commission
approval
because
it
would
be
essentially
their
well.
They
would.
They
would
agree
to
to
at
least
expose
the
members
of
the
site
plan
review
committees
to
to
the
list.
B
So
I
think
we.
What
we
would
most
want
would
be
to
complete
some
type
of
reasonable
checklist,
or
it
could
be
just
a
list
of
questions
to
raise
awareness
for
the
site
plan
review
committee
and
then,
after
that,
I
think
there
are
many
other
audiences
in
the
county
that
could
we
could
go
to
for
outreach
to
expand
this
concept.
A
Excellent
I
really
think
this
is
good.
Does
anybody
here
automatically
know
in
their
gut?
They
would
love
to
be
appointed
on
the
small
group
to
work
on
this.
We
have
members
that
aren't
here.
So
if
nobody
says
they
are
extremely
interested
right
now,
it
doesn't
mean
you're
out
of
luck.
Okay,
great.
C
G
A
C
A
A
F
The
the
one
thing
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
exploring
as
we
explore.
This
issue
is
something
that
I
have
seen
happen
recently
with
the
you
know:
the
Opera
project
down
and
I'm
and
I'm
blanking
on
the
site
plan
name,
but
it's
already
going
forward
the
Opera
project,
that's
down
around
the
the
two
buildings.
F
There
are
two
plans:
it's
right
right.
What
is
that
called
North
Fairfax
anyway?
It's
it's
down
there
right,
near
and
and
between
courthouse
and
Roswell.
A
F
So
and
and
it's
a
new
project
they're
going
out
of
Vista
out.
A
F
And
and
they're
going
to
take
part
of
that
land
and
they're
going
to
build
two
buildings
and
then
they're
going
to
renovate
part
of
the
elements.
So
so
in
that
project,
one
of
the
buildings
is
supposed
to
have
125
designated.
F
Developers
said
when
asked
about
what
they
meant
by
senior
designated
units
and
what
they
meant
by
what
kind
of
accessibility
they
were
going
to
have.
They
said
Universal
Design,
because
I
was
asking
them
so
how
many
fully
accessible
type
A
units
and.
F
F
C
B
Yes,
so
so
here's
a
chance
and
Doris
that's
a
very
good
observation.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
maybe
I
mean
thinking
about
this.
Maybe
this
is
a
way
to
better
tie
down
and
Define
exactly
what
we
might
mean
by
by
Universal,
Design
and
livability.
So
it's
not
so
slippery.
C
G
A
Yeah
I,
like
you
Brian,
you
think
big
all
right
well,
I
think
we
have
some
next
steps.
Would
you
like
to
propose
any
more
next
steps?
I
haven't
I
mean
the
only
one
I
see
right
now
is
that
we
are
going
to
comment
and
try
to
get
them
to
you
before
June
13th.
A
Whatever
we
comment
on,
we,
we
also
want
to
discuss
with
Matt
Matthew
ferenti
who's,
our
liaison
and
we're
we're
he's
coming
to
our
meeting
on
June
20th.
So
if
you're
around
or
somebody
else
from
the
planning
committee
wants
to
also
be
here
for
then
I
I
have
to
check,
though,
because
Courtney
has
a
pretty
full
agenda
on
that
day.
Yeah.
B
A
See
another
person
to
Champion
it
yeah.
The
third
thing
I
think
we
decided
is
that
Ryan
is
gonna
either
through
me
or
Courtney.
Get
you
his
email,
maybe
to
talk
about
being
a
representative,
however,
would
be
helpful.
B
Great
and
Brian,
so
I
will
see
that
you
get
invited
if
you
can
come
and
want
to
come
and
you
could
come
either
virtually
or
in
person
to
the
housing
committee
meeting
on
June
13th.
If
you,
you
know,
if
you
so
want,
if
you
want
to.
G
Yeah
should
be
free
that
day,
but
I'll
have
to
double
check,
but
yeah
I'm
excited
to
collaborate
on
this
project
that.
A
It
gets
into
the
notes
we
can
say.
The
fourth
thing
we
decided
is
that
we
need
to
look
into
how
these
developers
are
defining
Universal,
Design.
B
Yeah
right,
okay,
thank
you,
so
much
I
I
feel
very,
very
much
listened
to
and-
and
you
know,
I
I
think
that
we
have
a
good
set
of
steps
and
I
will
take
this
back
to
our
committee
and
commission
and
they
will
be
thrilled
with
the
progress.
G
I
will
mention
that
caucus
he's
been
talking
my
ear
off
about
Universal
Design.
Oh.
G
Yeah,
we
might
have
another
Advocate
on
the
board
for
us.
So
oh.
A
G
Single
failed,
I,
I
think
he's
talking
about
housing
in
general,
but
using
you
know
certain
tools
like
our
housing
grants
and
the
you
know,
tools
that
the
county
could
use
to
encourage
Universal
Design
throughout
the
county.
F
C
F
C
G
G
A
C
E
A
F
A
Oh,
do
you
Alexa.
B
A
Okay
and
and
Leo
and
oh
Karen,.
A
All
right
so
I
think
that
means
we
can
motion
to
approve
them
right:
okay,
hi,
all
right,
great,
okay,
then
next
after
that
am
I
right
that
we
go
right
to
the
the
accessibility
discussion,
yeah.
A
Yes,
okay!
So
next
on
our
was
the
draft
letter.
I
guess
about
concerns
that
we
have
that
this
building
so
brand
new
is
not
up
to
accessibility
standards
and
certainly
not
up
to
our
standards
right.
G
H
A
G
A
G
A
A
To
talk
about,
we
had
a
long
discussion
about
how
we
didn't
want
to
put
it
into
committee,
because
in
my
then
it
might
drag
it
out,
but
we
thought
that
maybe
we
could
together
come
up
with
thoughts
about
what
really
disturbs
us
and
and
then
you
know,
figure
out
the
best
way
to
to
get
our
points
made.
A
So
I
I
know
Doris.
You
had
some
thoughts
about
the
listening
devices
correct
well,.
E
C
F
The
issue
of
accommodations,
even
if
they're
built
in
versus
versus
the
built
environment,
because
that's
what's
required,
oh
under
the
Ada
of
an
entity-
who's
gone
through
renovation.
So
the
first
question
is,
you
know:
was
this
a
full
renovation
of
this
building,
or
was
it
something
less
than
what's
required
because
this
building
was
built
in
1980s.
C
F
Know
because
I
would
like
to
substantial
or
not
it
looks
that
way
in
the
lobby.
Right,
yes,
because
and
and
and
I
just
found
out
tonight
about
coming
in
here,
I
I
deliberately
took
a
look
because
I
thought
there's
an
accessible
restroom
down
there
in
that
Lobby
and
I
asked,
and
the
security
guard
took
me
over
there
to
see
it.
A
Are
you
serious
so
if
it's
gender
non-conforming
that
should
allow
them
to
make
the
if
more
accessible,
because
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
doing
men's
and
women's
well.
F
G
A
C
A
D
J
J
J
A
C
A
But
I
heard
you
say
that
somebody
should
you
should
do
an
assessment
and
I
am
I'm
open
to
that,
but
I'm
reluctant
to
do
that,
because
I
feel,
like
it
shouldn't,
be
the
Dax
damn
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
the
county
complies
with
Ada.
So
I
I
think
that
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
repeat
to
Matt
that
there
has
to
be
somebody
in
the
county
coordinator,
that's
responsible
for
ensuring
compliance.
It's.
F
It
wouldn't
it
be
and
I'll
wouldn't
it
be
Courtney's
Ada,
coordinator's
responsibility,
I
mean
I.
Remember
when
what
was
it,
it
was
the
health
apartment,
new
Clinic
that
was
built,
and
this
Commission
helped
Anna
Maynard
do
a
survey
over
there,
so
that
could
be
one
I
mean
clearly
I,
don't
know
how
does
how
do
public
buildings
work
with
code
enforcement
and
code
enforcement
lives
in
this
building.
J
C
J
A
Oh,
you
know
what
the
elevator
I
I
had
to
press
the
elevator
button
three
times,
because
the
elevator
kept
closing
on
me
and
thank
God.
It
was
the
same
elevator
because
I
was
facing
this
way
and
it
closed
on
me.
Then
I
got
sort
of
hearing
and
it
closed
on
me
and
then
so.
The
third
time
and
Courtney
has
even
witnessed
that
I
mean
so.
J
I
had
to
ask
the
security
guard
because
I'm
like
okay
I've,
come
to
this
building
enough
and
tonight
I'm,
not
patient
enough
and
I,
had
to
get
the
security
guard
to
hold
the
elevator
door
so
that
I
can
get
into
the
elevator,
because
there's
no
warning
system
to
prepare
you
which
elevator
is
going
to
open
up
and
by
the
time
you
notice
that
and
get
there.
The
door
closes.
F
As
a
blind
person
that
happens
for
me
too
and
there's
a
new
response,
it
happens
probably
more
than
you
might
think
and
and
in
fact
one
of
the
things
that
I
will
say
is
that
this
is
a
correctly
if
I'm
wrong,
Courtney,
please.
This
is
a
dual
responsibility
issue,
because
the
county
rents
from
jbg,
Smith,
Jamie,
G
Smith
just
so
happens
to
be
the
landlord
for
the
building
where
our
offices
used
to
be
here,
20,
2300
Clarendon,
and
they
went
through
a
renovation
over
there.
F
That
was
the
first
firm
building
that
they
put
through
renovation
and
it
went
from
what
was
good
to
worse,
yeah
and
now
we're
in
a
new
building
that
they
own
it's
actually
an
old
building.
But
it's
newly
renovated
Suites
at
1550,
Crystal
Drive
in
Arlington.
All
of
these
buildings
being
about
the
same
generation
and
outside
the
Ada.
F
F
J
C
A
A
You
would
have
gotten
a
different,
Community
Care,
and
so
so
basically
we
will
put
in.
C
C
A
That
I
just
took
suzette's
point
because
it
was
Art
because
I
heard
it
that,
because
this
building
requires
Arlington
citizens
to
come
to
the
building
to
perform
general
assistance,
responsibility
like
that's
all
I
got,
but
something
like
that.
A
Okay-
and
this
is
neither
here
nor
there
but
I'm
just
curious,
just
yeah
purely
curious.
Have
you
ever
been
told
that
your
wheelchair
is
larger
size
than
a.
J
J
A
J
The
doors
aren't
clearly
labeled,
which
one
the
handicap
user
is
supposed
to
use
or
not
use,
there's
not
clear
identification.
There's
signs
on
the
wall
that
says
Ada
here
Ada
there,
but
when
you
get
to
the
front
of
the
building,
there's
not
a
clear
picture
of
which
door
I'm
supposed
to
be
able
to
use,
because
we've
got
a
spinny
rotating
door
and
then
we've
got
two
doors
on
either
side
of
this
thingy
rotating
door.
E
F
A
And
as
a
result
of
this
lack
of
signage,
you
were
not
able
to
get
your
wheelchair
through
one
of.
J
On
a
wall-
and
you
go
by
Three
Doors
to
get
by
the
one
that
opened
up
and
then
in
order
to
get
to
the
button
for
the
second
pair
of
doors.
You've
got
the
door
in
your
way
and
so
there's
no
way
that
I
can
get
through
this
second
set
of
doors.
Without
going
far
away
to
let
that
door
close
to
then
go
back
down
the
hall
to
get
the
button
to
go
out
the
door.
A
And
you
know
what
we
could
also
say
is,
even
though
it's
not
our
responsibility
to
know
what
the
Ada
is
and
all
this
I
know
that
they
could
do
things
better.
That's
so.
C
A
Handicap
symbol
and
if
you
press
it,
the
doors
stay
open
for
so
long.
It's
great
and
all
you
have
to
do
is
go
in
there
and,
of
course,
there's
Braille
on
the
stuff
and
you
press
it,
and
once
you're
in
and
I
was
talking
with
somebody
who's
blind
and
said.
I
think
this
is
the
best
thing
to
slice,
bread
and
she
said
it's
required
on
all
buildings
because
it
talks
to
you.
A
It
says
it
talks
to
you
and
you
have
to
go
through
it
and
push
particular
number
in
so
that's
like
I
mean
and
then
the
other
thing
is.
We
know
that
you
can
put
a
push
button
and
proper
signage
closest
to
the
accessible.
J
A
J
E
G
E
F
E
F
In
the
moment,
yes,
I
have
no
idea
where
the
flag
board
is
it
the
revolving
door?
Yes,
okay,
I
was
just
trying
to
clarifying
in
my
mind,
so
yes,
okay,
I,
guess
that
I
get
that
afterwards,
that's
the
oldest
door
and-
and
they
used
to
use
the
movie
theater
side-
was
renovated
and
was
the
best
operating
door.
But
the
door
on
Clarendon
hasn't
been
there
on
that.
A
A
And
I
thought
that
you
had
an
issue
with
since
she
was
sound
when
the
sound
stuff.
F
C
F
Came
into
effect,
maybe
even
before
so
I,
don't
know
that
new
TV
I
think
is
covering
sign.
That
says:
go
to
the
County
Board
of
County
Clerk
to
to
get
them
to
turn.
You
know
turn
on
the
assisted
listening
system
and
that's
required
number
504
and
Ada
and
then
not
necessarily
required,
but
an
argument
to
be
made.
F
They
put
the
they
raised,
the
video
for
the
Cali
board
meetings
and
the
Planning
Commission
meetings
and
all
anything
in
that
room
to
a
TV
stand
that
is
so
high
that
people
using
wheelchairs
have
to
train
their
necks
and
people
who
are
are
vision.
Impaired
can't
even
see
it
anymore.
It
used
to
be
installed
in
that
album
right
and
it
was
really
a
beautiful
location
to
have
it.
A
A
F
All
I'm
saying
is
I
have
to
check
it.
We
put
on
the
way
out,
there's
a
sign
there.
That
tells
you
there
is
one
in
there.
It's
a
requirement:
okay,
okay,
that
that
sign
be
there,
since
it's
not
a
feature,
that's
in
apparent
and-
and
it
tells
you
where
to
go
to-
which
is
the
County
Board
office
to
get
the
assistant
listening.
F
A
D
E
F
Issues
there's
a
library
down
there
in
that
Lobby
man,
oh
one
of
the
issues
is,
is
how
do
you
all
feel
about
the
big
main
desk
big
main
desk
reception
desk
down
there,
because
it
doesn't
have
a
lowered
space
without
measuring
I,
wouldn't
know.
A
A
D
E
D
H
C
A
Just
put
a
sign
in
there
saying:
please,
please
provide
access,
you
know
an
accessible.
C
H
H
A
H
J
Okay,
two
other
things
that
I
would
is.
If
we
talked
about
for
I,
don't
know
if
you
got
it
down
the
timing
of
the
elevator
doors.
Yes,
I
got
that
okay,
as
well
as
verbally
letting
people
know
which
elevator
right.
C
C
B
J
A
And
just
so
I
know
was
that
upstairs.
J
Both
so
even
on
the
main
floor,
they
would
have
a
speaker
in
the
middle
of
the
hallway
and
everyone
would
gather
around
the
speaker,
and
so
there
was
no
way
for
you
to
gain
access
to
the
bathrooms,
because
the
people
were
blocking
everything.
There
was
no
way
for
you
to
go
through
anywhere,
because
able-bodied
people
were
taking
up
the
whole
entire
space
right.
A
J
Sign
language
interpreter
I
would
also
because
at
that
event,
where
military
people
and
it
was
opening
up
the
display-
which
is
why
I
was
there-
the
military
ship
that's
down
there
and
those
whole
big
presentation.
But
there
was
three
other
people
before
that
were
talking.
There's
no
sign
language
interpretation
in
any
of
these
events
and
no
sign
language
interpreter
on
site
to
help
you,
because
there
was
no
captioning
right
for
me
who
can't
hear
who
relies
on
captioning
or
looking
at
people's
lips
and
you're
sitting
in
a
wheelchair
in
a
sea
of
people.
A
J
C
J
F
J
J
C
A
J
A
So
let
me
explain
as
I
understand
it
on
the
downstairs,
there
was
a
microphone
where
somebody
was
giving
presentations,
so
there
was
no
flyer
that
allows
you
to
request
a
sign
language
interpreter
or
captioning,
and
nobody
on
site
that
provided
sign
language
interpreter
are
captioning.
So
that's
downstairs
where
there
was
a
microphone.
The
other
issue
is
that
all
along
these
hallways
there
were
there
were
obstructions
where
people
were
providing
flyers
and
other
information
they
could
come
and
grab.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
J
C
J
F
That
are
open
to
the
public.
No
I
didn't
say
that
what
I'm
saying
is
this
has?
What
is
what
do
you
call
this
shoe
levels,
three
levels,
probably
the
you
know
the
this
is.
This-
is
a
open
area
down
here
that
you
could
fall
down
right,
so
there
was
only
a
narrow,
Corridor
up
and
down,
but
but
all
of
the
levels
going
up
aren't
like
that.
C
F
F
A
F
Wait
a
minute-
and
that
is
you're
right,
but
if
this
was,
if
this
was
a
welcoming
inclusive
County
than
they
would
have
provided
for
it
anyway,
in
an
open
Event
like
that.
F
B
C
C
F
A
J
H
The
last
point
I
would
make
is
what
we
heard
last
or
last
month
was
with
the
elections
individual,
who
came
they're
not
allowed
to
leave
their
doors
open
and
to
the
point
that
you
made
you.
H
A
You
can't
prep
doors
but
to
get
to
the
voting
area.
There
are
no
push
buttons.
J
A
Yeah
excellent
I
mean
there's
an
ADA
requirement
and
there's
what
we
will
be
okay,
so
excellent
point
any
we
have
so
many
great
points.
This
is
terrific.
We're
gonna
write
them
all
up
before
Matt
gets
here,
we're
gonna
hand
it
to
him.
Ask
him
to
be
our
Advocate,
and
then
we
are
going
to
tell
them
that
we're
going
to
submit
should
I
submit
it
to
the
County
Board.
Before
our
next
meeting.
G
F
The
agenda
on
on
on
on
Saturday
before,
for
you
know
when
the
meeting
begins,
because
the
police
community
meeting
is
a
continuation
of
items
on
the
Saturday
meeting.
A
So
this
is
a
just
a
question
for
everybody's
input.
Are
we
asking
for
public
comment
availability
to
raise
these
issues?
Are
we
just
sharing
it
with
Matt,
or
are
we
sharing
it
with
the
full
County
Board?
Those
are
three
different
questions.
I,
like
input
up.
G
A
Yeah,
so
what
I
asked
was
well
first,
we
have
to
identify
how
this
will
be
developed,
I'm,
going
to
develop
a
a
very
simple
letter
with
bulletin
issues
and
the
beginning
would
say
why
we
are
raising
these
issues
and
how
we
discovered
them
and
then
I
would
bullet
the
issues
and
then
at
the
bottom,
I
would
say.
If
we
had
just
address
it
to
Matt
I
would
say:
how
do
you
recommend
are
getting
appropriate
intention
and
fixes
something
like
that?
A
That's
all
I
was
planning
to
do
and
then
I
would
send
that
out
to
you
guys
before
June
20th,
and
so
the
question
I
had
was.
Should
the
letter
just
go
to
Matt
and
I
feel
like
three
people
in
this
room
said
give
Matt
the
first
chance
to
look
at
it
so
did
I
hear
raw?
Does
anyone
else
is.
F
F
Some
of
which
may
be
in
the
purview
of
the
county,
someone
which
maybe
the
purview
of
the
landlord
like
the
times,
but
that
we
feel
that
since
there's
been
a
significant
renovation
of
Maine,
County
Building
that
perhaps
there
should
be
a
an
ADA
survey
done
and
that
the
disability
Commission
would
like
to
have
some
perfect
some
purview
or
input
over
that
and
and
that
the
county
provides
either
the
Staffing.
For
that.
A
Okay,
so
so
that
is
one
request
which
will
make
if
I
heard
you
correctly
following
the
renovations,
which
we
believe
are
were
significant
enough
to
trigger
Ada
responsibilities.
We
think
that
the
county
should
allocate
for
an
ADA
survey
to
be
done,
but
another
point
we
have
to
make
is
that.
A
That
some
of
our
items
requested
are
not
required
by
the
Ada,
but
we
feel
that
they
are
important
too
and
then
then
our
comments
about
citizens
that
come
to
this
building
and
be
able
to
do
certain
things
so
I
I'm
willing
to
say
we'd,
like
an
ADA
survey
to
be
done,
but
I
don't
want
that
to
be
at
the
expense
of
I.
Don't
want
them
to
come
back
and
say
we
looked
at
all
your
things,
you're
losers.
A
We
don't
have
to
do
this
goodbye,
but
is
everybody
in
agreement
that
will
ask
for
both
things
or
should
we
I.
C
H
Question
when,
when
used,
they
were
not
actually
accessible,
just
finding
that,
when
used,
it
wasn't
actually
accessible
site
potential
survey,
they
may
have
already
done.
A
So
what
we're
doing
Doris
is
we're,
throwing
it
back
to
them,
saying
you
had
people
that
told
you
they
surveyed
for
the
Ada
and
we
we
question
them
so
and.
F
A
J
Was
wondering
for
the
main
floor
bathroom,
since
that
is
a
very
common
public
area,
whether
or
not
providing
seating
by
those
bathrooms
for
either
the
people
that
are
waiting
for
other
people
or
whatever?
If
that
would
be
a
good
ask,
because
that's
what
I
noticed
is
that
that
when
you
had
people
waiting
or
the
Bunches
of
bathrooms,
that
the
other
people
like
the
elderly
person
or
this
other
person
had.
A
Down
on
vacation
I've
already
got
that
one
okay,
so
I,
think
hearing
no
other
points.
I
think
that
it's
time
for
me
to
review
the
ones
I
have
so
I
already
mentioned
the
reasons
that
you
mentioned
for
why
we
are
providing
these
comments
and
that
we
and
why
it's
important
for
this
building
in
particular,
to
be
fully
approachable
and
accessible
by
individuals.
Okay,
so
then
we
have
to
check.
A
Are
there
enough,
Ada
accessible
bathrooms
to
meet
requirements
and
that
we
have
experienced
that
the
bathrooms
were
not
designed
to
fit
a
standard
issue?
A
veteran
standard
issue,
wheelchair
electric,
wheelchair
and
so
I
could
leave
it
at
that
or
say
draft
I'll.
Think
about
that
that
the
elevators
are
too
quick
for,
and
it
has
been
experienced
by
both
individuals
of
our
committee
who
use
Walkers
as
well
as
individuals
in
electric
wheelchairs
that
were
not
able
to
it's.
F
When
I
was
downstairs
by
the
way,
yeah
I'm
up
here,
there
used
to
be
a
green
and
a
red
light,
something
about
the
lighting
environment
or
whatever,
because
there
are
six
elements:
yeah,
yeah,
yeah-
that
this
relates
to
the
timing
of
the
closure
of
the
elevators.
But
it's
also
there
is
supposed
to
be
a
visible
like.
It
goes,
along
with
the
salmon
film.
F
And-
and
it's
either
harder
to
see,
but
tonight
I
couldn't
see
is
tried
it
up
here.
Yet
last
time
I
went
in
this
first
floor.
I
thought
it
was
just,
but
what
I
will
tell
you
is
that
that
I
know
jpg
and
over
there
in
our
building
at
1550,
8
9,
10
elevators,
the
elevator
Lobby,
and
it
is
it
takes
five
minutes
is-
is
opening.
F
D
Down
here,
yeah
there's
something
down
arrow,
but
I
think
I
know:
Doris
has
expressed
concerned
because
there's
like
a
lighting
that
kind
of
frames
the
door.
C
A
So
I'm
making
two
separate
points.
The
other
point
well
Waldport
is
checking.
Is
that
there's
bad
lighting
with
no
with
with
without
the
contrast
necessity
high
intensity
lighting
that
doesn't
have
the
cons
contrast
necessary
for
most
individuals
with
a
vision,
disability
all
right?
So
what
I
was
going
to
make
the
separate
point
about
the.
A
Lights,
if
we'll
see
and
there's.
J
A
F
F
Yeah
and
then
they
put
the
arch
of
Lights,
like
they
do
yeah
in
bathrooms
now,
which
makes
it
harder
to
see
the
inside
lights
of
the
elevator.
Yes,
that's
why
I
was
telling
you
the
inside,
because
the
the
arch
of
Lights
is
outside
of
the
elevator
and
the
elevator
car
itself
is
darker
with
the
regular
incandescent
it
it.
It
makes
you
afraid
to
step
in
because
you
think
you're.
A
A
Like
yeah,
the
high
intensity
lighting,
that
provides
no
contrast,
individuals
with
vision,
issues
to
to
navigate.
A
F
A
A
Alexa
agrees.
Okay.
The
next
point
is
the
County.
Board
has
an
assisted
living
device,
but
the
sign
is
no
longer
visible,
indicating
that
Assisted
Living
devices
are
available.
Listening.
A
Okay,
I'm
putting
coordinating
follows
up
all
right,
no
clear
identification
of
which
front
door
is
accessible
and,
and
the
timing
is
too
short
also
the
door
that
is
accessible
is
not
the
door
closest
to
the
push
button
for
access.
A
H
J
D
A
H
C
G
G
G
A
F
Might
want
to
put
a
remark
in
there
that
says
you
know
some
of
these
issues
apparel
easily
with
with
with
not
much
trouble
right
and
maybe
even
not
much
expense
and.
C
F
F
C
F
A
G
A
F
J
I
would
like
to
ask
for
increased
signage
internally,
where
the
Ada
bathrooms
are
like
at
the
elevator
or
or
other
main,
because
I
didn't
know
that
there
was
an
ADA
accessible
bathroom
on
the
main
level
and
nor
did
any
employee.
They
all
sent
me
to
this
third
floor,
one
where
I
got
stuck
and
there's
no
sign
outside
of
the
bathroom
area
that
there
is
an
accessible
one
inside.
C
F
F
A
Okay,
so
I've
got
that
again
assisted
listening
device
or
he's
going
to
look
at
that.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
no
signs
in
boardrooms
and
other
meeting
areas
requesting
that
requesting
that
well,
I
was
going
to
say
requesting
that
a
space
has
become
available
for
wheelchair
users.
That
might
be
a
little
bit
too
specific.
C
C
J
E
H
A
G
G
J
C
F
A
Okay,
I'll
put
that
under
during
special
right
I
have
during
special
events.
Please
attempt
to
ensure
there
are
testable
aisles.
That
was
not
the
case
at
the
recent
open
house.
In
addition,
there
was
no
captioning
or
sign
language
interpreter
and
the
flyer
advertising.
The
event
did
not
mentioned
that
you
could
request
a
sign
language
so
on
on
that.
Also,
you
wanted
to
say
something.
F
F
A
Okay
got
it
then
go.
J
A
A
A
So
I
don't
really
suggested
that
they
have.
Some
of
these
issues
can
be
addressed
by
tables
that
are
at
different
heights
to
adapt
for
different
wheelchairs.
We
could
also
say-
and.
I
I
know
this
is
kind
of
strange,
but
you
know
what
in
my
school
in
high
school,
when
I
went
to
Wakefield
there
were
there
were
labs
in
school
and
pretty
much
had
a
big
plug
that
you
could
plug
in
your
Earth,
and
it
would
just
be
next
to
your
desk.
So
you.
A
J
This
this
has
one
but
I
couldn't
reach
it
right
like
because
they
put
the
tables
on
top
of
it
like
you
can't
reach
the
plug
right
and
that's
what
I've
noticed
is
all
these
rooms
are
set
up
where
there's
a
plug,
but
it's
Mobility
impaired
people
can't
use
the
features
of
the
room.
The
way
the
rooms
are
designed
for.
Only
able-bodied
people.
A
Okay,
well,
then,
I
can't
say
and
plugs
in
the
tables
for
individually
need
to
charge.
The
system.
I
can
just
say
the
room
setup
is
not
friendly.
H
J
I
have
missed
meetings,
because
my
wheelchair
would
not
have
enough
charge
to
get
me
to
the
meeting
and
home,
but
if
I
was
able
to
charge
during
the
meeting,
I
could
have
come
in
person
to
this
meeting
and
there's
no
way
in
this
room
for
me
to
charge
my
wheelchair
and
attend
this
meeting
without
being
away
from
the
table
or
being
somewhere
else.
And
so
that's
the
part
that
I'm
asking
is.
F
Yeah
there's
one
thing
that
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
add
that
I
forgot
I
said:
there's
two
things:
one
was
but
the
other
ones.
This
has
come
up
before
capacity.
F
I
think
we
should
ask
them
what
is
the
status
of
having
evacuation
shares
in
county
building
in
2100,
Clarendon
and
any
of
the
other
common
buildings
when
the
elevators
go
down
in
case,
they
can't
be
fixed
by
EMTs
right
when
they
come,
because
this
afternoon,
actually
at
least
two
or
three
times
to
me
and
and
Rosemary
fiati.
So.
F
C
A
Smelling
that,
after
a
mission
meetings,
they
went
to
use
the
elevator
and
the
elevators
were
locked
had
to
call
for
evacuation
chairs,
and
the
request
was
never
responded
to
okay.
So
something
like
our
members,
found
that
after
late
night
commission
meetings,
they
went
to
use
the.
A
So
they
had
to
call
for
evacuation
chairs
and
we're
up
here
for
an
hour
waiting
for
response,
we're
waiting
for
the
evacuation
Church.
It
that's
horrible.
A
Hour,
evacuation
chairs
to
advise
for
the
elevators
to
be
turned
back
on
after
an
hour
worthy
of
elevators
turned
back
on
or
they
just
provided.
The
evacuation
chair.
C
F
A
Okay,
so
after
our
commission
meeting,
the
elevator
was
out
of
service
due
to
a
power
outage
and
we
called
for
evacuation
chairs
and
it
took
over
an
hour
for
it.
But
this.
A
Okay,
so,
basically
is
the
question:
is:
does
the
building
hold
regular
fire
drills,
including
the
use
of
evacuation
chairs,
to.
F
A
D
D
Oh,
no,
no,
no
worries
just
wanted
to
follow
up
I'll
check
on
the
ASL
interpreter
for
the
event,
because
the
the
coordinator
of
that
event
had
reached
out
to
me
yeah.
C
D
Schedule
so
I'll
follow
up
to
see
what
happened
with
that
because
they
did
contact
me.
D
I'm
not
sure
what
happened
so
I'll
get
back
to
you
guys
on.
G
G
They
have
captioning
for
some.
The
issue
is
I,
don't
think
the
AV
people
turn
it
on
all
the
time
and
they'll
they'll
notice
like
halfway
through
a
meeting
and
like
turn
it
on
unless
you're
on
YouTube
and
rely
on
like
the
YouTube
Auto
translator,
which
captioner.
F
A
Well,
my
goodness,
okay!
Well,
that
leaves
another
Point.
The
Jack
was
required
to
meet
in
this
building.
Just
despite
the
fact
that
construction
made
movement
difficult,
these
kinds
of
issues
need
to
be
considered
in
advance.
C
A
That,
or
do
you
want
me
to
leave
out
that?
Did
you
say
something
Leo
or
Alexa?
I
said
yes,
okay,
the
girls,
the
doors
go
into
the
voting
area
do
not
have
push
buttons
and
the
doors
cannot
be
cracked
open
for
security
reasons.
The
doors
are
also
very
heavy.
A
And
then
you
know
explaining
again
why
these
things
should
be
taken
into
consideration
allowing
the
renovation
we
understand
that
the
county
did
an
Ada's
survey
and
determined
that
it
was
in
full
compliance.
This
has
not
been
our
experience
with
the
bathrooms.
A
That
we
would
just
oh
and
then
in
our
closing,
we
would
request
our
requests.
Are
our
requests
are
that
the
math
help
us
to
address
these
issues.
F
A
A
G
But
they
usually
have
like
a
I
knew.
Some
kiosks
have
like
this,
like
it
plug-in
for
headphones
and
like
because
Braille
no.
A
Thank
you
for
for
picking
out
this
and.
A
D
D
D
Yeah,
so
at
that
time,
that
was
the
only
one
that
had
the
hearing,
Loop
and
looking
at
it.
The
layout
is
a
lot
better
and
doors
have
provided
some
feedback
that
the
sound
is
better
in
that
room
as
well.
Great,
yes,
but
I
will
get
that
looked
at
before
a
meeting.
Actually,
today,
I'll
go
down
there
right
now.