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A
B
I
always
do
the
national
Fox
service
is
presently
conducting
a
public
comments
to
read
for
the
scoping
process
for
plant
environment
assessment,
the
EA
will
involve
evaluate
potential
improvements
to
most
of
those
18
Mile
Long
Mount
Vernon
Trail
and
the
Fairfax
County
section
of
of
the
George
Washington
Memorial
Parkway,
the
public
health
material
will
end
on
January
4th.
My
written
comment
provides
the
URL
for
the
announcement
for
the
scoping
period
and
its
common
period.
I
think
Vincent
also
should
have
it.
B
The
project
will
increase
the
width
of
the
trail
from
eight
to
nine
feet,
to
at
least
11
feet
into
Arlington,
on
Columbia
Island
in
DC
and
in
Alexandria.
The
new
width
will
be
at
least
10
feet
in
Fairfax
County.
In
some
places
the
project
May
create
separate
pedestrian,
bicycle
and
bicycle
trails,
whose
combined
with
Sylvie
larger
symbolism.
B
The
these
adverse
and
viral
impacts
of
the
trail
widening
include
the
addition
of
intermariable
surfaces
and
then
any
of
the
protomal
curves
or
Rivers
For
Recess
Protection
Agency,
as
well
as
damage
the
trees
in
their
roots
in
the
north,
and
there
will
also
free
canopy
participants
in
the
scoping
process
can
propose
measures
that
will
help
mitigate
the
Project's
adverse
impacts.
They
can
suggest
beneficial
changes
to
areas
near
the
trail
and
within
the
Parkway
in
Arlington
and
elsewhere.
That's
the
most
important
thing
about
it.
B
If
proposed,
those
changes
can
convert
many
of
the
load
Lawns
near
the
Trail's
roots
to
Natural
areas
such
as
Meadows
and
wood
and
Woodlands.
They
can
also
create
pollinated
habitats
within
the
parkway's
median
strip
by
reducing
the
Pope
the
media's
mowing.
However,
many
people
need
to
recommend
these
changes
to
to
actually
have
them
happen.
These
mitigations
will
be
important
changes
that
can
greatly
improve
the
importance
of
the
environment
of
one
of
Arlington's
largest
Parks.
B
D
C
So
sorry,
okay,
I'm
ready,
first
of
all,
happy
holidays
to
all
of
you
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
over
the
last
year.
I
respect
all
of
your
service
I'd
like
to
invite
all
of
you
to
go
to
the
homepage
of
arlingtonians
for
our
sustainable
future
and
read
a
comprehensive
paper
that
they
just
published
on
missing
middle
impacts.
In
particular,
I'd
recommend
the
chapters
on
environment
and
energy
parts
of
which
I
briefed
this
Commission
on
last
month
on
land
use
on
fiscal
and
infrastructure
issues
and
on
diversity.
C
Asf
is
taking
issue
in
this
paper
with
staff
claims
that
missing
middle
doesn't
post
any
challenge
to
any
of
our
comprehensive
plan
goals.
I
would
say,
of
course
it
does.
The
ASF
paper
shows
that
missing
middle
is
not
compatible
with
stormwater
goals
of
protecting
the
Watershed
and
preventing
flooding,
nor
with
the
gall
of
becoming
a
carbon
neutral
Community
by
2050,
and
it
makes
it
all
but
impossible
to
reach
our
40
tree.
C
Can
people
if
we
dial
out
to
the
Strategic
level
of
the
county
goals,
we'll
see
various
sub-elements
of
the
comp
plan
have
become
so
much
window
dressing.
The
snrp
draft
itself
recognizes
there
is
little
plantable
space
remaining
on
existing
County
on
land,
so
opportunities
to
offset
future
losses
will
be
limited
by
the
need
to
conserve
natural
areas.
C
Where
are
those
areas
and
what
are
the
plans
and
how
can
we
fix
missing
middle
impacts
and
Monday's
Planning
Commission
meeting
a
land
use
attorney
told
the
commission
that
the
tree
canopy
add-on
in
the
missing
middle
plan
might
be
illegal
and
the
board
should
get
an
advisory
opinion
for
the
Virginia
attorney
general.
That's
a
pretty
important
caution.
C
Susan
land
who's
here
tonight
from
atag
showed
the
commission
how
only
one
or
two
missing
middle
types
even
come
close
to
the
20
canopy
goal,
meaning
that
the
rest
are
falling
short
Bill
Richardson
of
Donaldson
run
talked
about
the
need
to
stop
large
lot
home
coverage
for
single-family
homes
and
Josh
Handler
talked
about
going
to
30
lot
coverage.
These
are
the
realists
and
we
need
action
on
their
ideas.
I
hope
you
also
listen
to
Ms
Haynes
at
the
zoco
meeting
on
December
30th.
C
She
made
a
very
impassioned
case
for
trees
based
on
your
letter
and
to
all
the
speakers
at
this
week's
Planning
Commission
meeting,
many
of
whom
spoke
about
trees
and
I
hope
you
will
lead
us
back
to
the
Strategic
dialogue
that
we
need
so
desperately
if
Missy
middle
doesn't
offer
an
opportunity,
I
fear.
Nothing
will.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
E
It
okay,
very
good.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
wish
happy
holidays
to
all
of
the
members
of
this
commission.
It's
been
great
working
with
you
for
the
last
year
and
I
look
forward
to
2023
with
all
of
you,
but
what
I
want
to
do
tonight
is
give
you
a
heads
up
very
exciting
that
the
preliminary
results
from
a
new
independent
tree,
canopy
study
are
available
and
more
detail
will
be
available
early
in
2023..
E
Given
what
we
now
know,
no,
there
are
going
to
be
many
overlays
that
are
going
to
be
available,
including
potential
planning
areas,
it'll
be
divided
up
by
neighborhood,
Watershed
census,
block
and
public
versus
private
ownership,
and
all
of
this
is
being
refined
and
improved.
This
is
really
a
significant.
E
The
county
should
have
done
this
before
they
spent
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
Consultants
to
write
the
plan.
This
costs
a
very
small
fraction
of
that,
and
the
results
are
great
also
in
the
future
if
people
wanted
to,
they
can
focus
in
on
a
neighborhood
or
a
particular
Watershed
to
look
at
the
potential.
F
D
F
H
That's
it
so
I
did
a
public
comment,
as
Ann
mentioned
on
Monday
night
at
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
and
I
presented
three
issues.
The
first
two
I
think
this
group
has
already
heard
of
I.
Think
I've.
In
fact,
I
think
I
presented
it
last
last
meeting,
so
we
can
sort
of
just
go
through
those
quickly.
H
We
came
up
with
numbers
that
were
about
half
of
the
situation.
Half
of
the
scenarios
came
up
with.
We
were
about
10
percent,
but
Benson
I
know
you,
you
all
did
some.
Maybe
we've
done
some
different
numbers
and
we
might
want
to
double
check
those
and
I'd
be
happy
to
double
check
these
with
you
and
make
sure
we're
accurate,
but
now
issue
numbers
three
is
what
I
wanted
to
bring
up
with
this
group.
So
that's
the
next
slide
the
one
tree
per
unit
policy.
H
It's
not
really
based
on
available
lot
space
as
we
understand
it,
the
missing
middle
buildings
will
be
the
same
size
and
have
the
same
lock
coverage
and
setbacks
whether
they
are
an
eight
plaques
or
a
duplex
or
four
plaques.
So
the
question
is:
if
the
county
can
require
eight
trees
for
an
eight
plaques,
isn't
there
any
way
they
can
also
require
eight
trees
for
a
duplex.
H
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
appreciate
your
comments
and
I
know
we're
going
to
be
discussing
the
missing
middle
at
a
point
later
this
evening
as
well,
since
we
had
a
couple
people
participating
in
the
in
the
hearings,
so
thank
you
all
very
much
and
you're
certainly
welcome
to
stay
and
observe
and
participate
or
you're
welcome
to
do
something
that
might
be
more
fun,
but
thank
you
for
caring
about
natural
resources
and
trees
and
the
future
of
our
County.
I
Yep
I'm
sorry
I
was
trying
to
share,
slides
and
wasn't
focused
on
unmuting
myself.
So
thanks
everyone,
we
do
have
a
short
presentation.
We
wanted
to
run
through
just
so.
Everyone
has
kind
of
a
good
Baseline
I
know
some
of
you
may
have
maybe
more
familiar
with
the
utility
than
others
and
then
I
know.
You
may
have
particular
interest
in
the
credit
program
and
some
of
the
natural
resource
implications
there.
So
we
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
of
you
know
more
of
a
focus
on
that.
I
If
there
I
know
I
know
a
lot
of
you
folks
on
the
line
here,
but
my
name
is
Eileen
windquist
I'm
with
environmental
services
and
I
work
on
our
stormwater
program.
Doing
Communications
and
engagement
I
also
have
Krista
able
here,
who
is
our
works
on
our
budget
and
capital
projects
and
she's
kind
of
the
one
of
the
key
project
managers
for
the
stormwater
utility.
F
I
Just
a
little
background,
what
is
the
stormwater
utility
So?
Currently,
our
stormwater
program
is
funded
through
a
Sanitary
District
tax
and
the
stormwater
utility
would
just
be
an
alternate
way
to
pay
for
the
County's
storm
water
management
program,
and
so
my
utility
is
based
on
the
amount
of
hard
surfaces
or
impervious
area
on
a
property,
while
the
Sanitary
District
tax
is
based
on
a
properties
assessed
value.
So
it's
just
a
different
way
to
calculate
that,
so
it's
more
similar
to
other
types
of
utility
bills
where
it
would
be.
I
You
know
more
similar
to
a
user
fee
based
on
the
use
and
sort
of
impact
of
the
property
on
the
county
stormwater
system
using
the
impervious
area
as
that
measure,
and
so
you're,
the
impervious
cover
on
a
property
is
much
better
correlated
with
the
amount
of
stormwater
runoff
than
the
property
assessment.
There's
really
no
correlation
with
the
property
assessment
and
the
amount
of
runoff,
so
just
to
give
everyone
a
little
background
on
that.
I
How
did
we
get
to
this
point
in
this
process?
So,
currently,
we've
been
working
actually
kind
of
doing,
assessing
and
studying
the
feasibility
of
converting
to
a
stormwater
utility
for
a
couple
years.
There's
been
actually
a
lot
of
work.
Prior
to
this,
we
have
a
consultant
ref
Tillis
who
specializes
in
you
know
developing
stormwater
utilities
around
the
country.
They
let
a
feasibility
study
that
was
completed
in
May
of
2020.
That
recommended
the
county.
You
know
make
this
change
to
the
stormwater
utility,
and
then
we
have
further.
You
know
done
further
analysis
and
assessment.
I
I
So
just
to
give
a
little
background,
some
folks
have
had
questions
you
know
about
what
they
pay
now
under
the
current
system
versus
what
they
might
pay
under
stormwater
utility.
So,
just
to
give
you
that
background,
the
average,
if
you
know
using
sort
of
a
property
that
has
an
assessment
of
800
000,
the
current
charge,
would
be
about
136
dollars
per
year.
So
you
can
kind
of
figure
that
you
know
maybe
10
or
12
dollars
per
month
and
that's
based
on
the
the
current
fee,
which
is
the
Sanitary
District
tax.
I
So
then
again
moving
you
know,
looking
at
the
stormwater
utility
that
would
be
based
on
impervious
area,
and
this
slide
just
illustrates.
You
know
what
areas
on
a
lot
would
be
considered.
Impervious.
It's
just
any
portion
of
a
property,
that's
covered
with
hard
surfaces
and
doesn't
let
water
soak
into
the
ground,
including
your
patios,
roofs,
driveways
and
walkways
so
properties
with
more
impervious
area
would
pay
a
higher
fee
under
a
stormwater
utility.
I
So
why
is
the
the
county
considering
changing
to
a
stormwater
utility
this
you
know
here
we
talk
about
some
of
the
reasons.
Why
and
it's
really
you
know
part
of
it
is
to
try
to
create
more
of
a
use
more
of
a
demand
based
fee.
It's
it's
where
the
fee
would
actually
be
more
related
to
the
demand
that
the
property
is
putting
on
the
system.
You
know
with
the
impervious
area
and
really
trying
to
create
a
fair
basis
for
funding.
I
I
You
know
to
improve
the
system
and
also
you
know
the
focus
we
have
recently
with
trying
to
increase
capacity
and
respond.
You
know
to
to
flooding,
impacts
and
and
reduce
our
flood
risk.
We
also
have
regulatory
requirements.
You
know
with
FEMA
floodplains
in
our
resource
protection
areas
and
again
through
our
permit.
We
have
with
the
state,
you
know
to
reduce
pollution,
so
we
do
a
number
of
projects,
green
streets
and
stream,
resilience
projects
and
pond
projects.
I
You
know
to
try
to
reduce
pollution
and
meet
those
goals
so
and
then,
in
addition,
education,
training
so
there's
a
whole
breadth
of
of
programs.
You
know
in
the
storm
water
management
program
that
the
funding
is
used
for
so
just
to
give
you
a
little
background.
How
would
the
utility
work
so
the
impervious
area
is
measured
using
our
mapping
system
data
and
that's
used
to
calculate
a
square
footage
of
impervious
area
for
a
property
so
for
consultant
test
kind
of
analyzed.
I
You
know
a
sampling
of
properties
and
you
know
found
that
the
average
impervious
area
for
a
lot
of
the
Residential
Properties
is
about
2
400
square
feet,
for
you
know
in
Arlington
County,
so
that
becomes
sort
of
the
the
billing
unit,
which
is
one
equivalent
residential
unit,
and
so
that's
again
the
median
amount
specific
for
Arlington.
So
then,
each
property
is
charged
based
on
the
number
of
erus
that
they
have
on
the
property
so
we'll
we
do
have
another
slide.
That
talks
a
little
bit
more.
Actually
the
next
one
about
the
The
Raid
structure.
I
We
won't
get
into
a
lot
of
detail
on
this,
but
we
do
have
you
know
some
information
here
so
for
single
family
residential
there
would
be
four
tiers
of
the
rate
structure
based
again
on
these
kind
of
groupings.
You
know
of
impervious
areas,
so
they
would
be
a
lower
tier,
less
than
1600
square
feet
which
would
be
charged.
0.60
are
used
and
then
another
category
between
1600
to
3600.
That
would
be
charged.
I
One
eru
now
most
of
the
single-family
homes
in
Arlington
about
90
percent
fall
into
this
tier
one
or
and
tier
two
category.
So
we
do
have
some
distribution
graphs
as
well.
If
you
know,
and
some
of
our
other
presentations,
if
you're
interested
some
properties
that
have
more
than
that
would
would
be
in
tier
three
at
1.7,
and
then
you
know
for
a
very
small
number
of
properties
that
have
a
larger
amount.
They
would
then
be
charged
per
year
for
multi-family
properties.
I
We
have
decided
instead
to
do
a
flat
rate,
and
so
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
If
folks
are
interested
and
then
for
non-residential,
which
would
be
commercial
and
and
other
you
know,
types
of
institutional
properties,
those
would
be
charged
basically
based
on
the
impervious
area
per
eru
as
well.
I
I
You
know
awareness
and
voluntary
measures,
you
know
to
reduce
runoff,
we
want
to
support
water
quality,
but
we
also
need
to
keep
in
mind
that
the
the
main
focus
of
this
room,
water
utility,
is
really
to
fund
the
stormwater
program.
So
we
do
not
want
to
create
a
credit
program
that
is
so
complex
and
difficult
to
administer
that
it
requires.
You
know,
multiple
staff.
You
know
in
order
to
manage
the
program,
so
we
that
is
something
that
we're
trying
to
balance,
but
we
do
also
want
to
reward
positive
behaviors.
I
So
those
are
just
some
things
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
talk
about
the
the
draft
here
of
of
the
options.
So
this
slide
has
a
lot
of
information
on
it,
but
it
kind
of
gives
you
a
summary.
You
can
see.
The
top
box
here
looks
at
the
credits
for
single
family
and
then
multi-family
and
non-residential
are
the
lower
box
so
just
to
provide
some
information
we
do
and
we
will
provide
credits
for
both
mandatory
facilities,
that
those
are
facilities
that
are
installed
as
a
result
of
a
development
project.
I
And
so,
if
someone
you
know
redevelops
their
home
or
builds
a
new
home
and
they
have
stormwater
Planters
or
pervious
driveway,
they
would
receive
a
credit
for
those,
and
that
again
is
is
something
that
is
required
through
the
state
law.
So
but
then,
in
addition,
there
would
be
credits
available
for
voluntary
actions
that
someone
chooses
to
take.
I
You
know
of
their
own
volition,
and
so
we
have
things
like
conservation,
Landscaping
tree
planting
rainwater
collection,
rain,
Gardens
and
permeable
driveways
available,
and
we
have
different
levels
of
credit
you
can
see
for
those
and
then
under
the
multi-family
and
non-residential.
We
also
have,
in
addition,
some
volunteer
activities,
and
this
was
something
that
we
heard.
I
You
know
very
importantly,
from
some
of
our
tax
exempt
customers
and
some
of
those
folks
you
know
will
this
will
be
more
of
a
change
for
some
of
those
customers,
because
they
have
currently
not
been
paying
under
the
the
Sanitary
District
tax,
so
changing
to
a
utility.
This
would
be
a
new
fee
for
them.
So
that
was
something
we
heard
through
our
advisory
committee.
That
was
very
important
to
have
those
those
options
available
in
the
credit
program.
I
I
You
know
to
do
in
addition
to
homeowners,
rain,
Gardens
conservation,
Landscaping
rainwater
collection,
tree
planting
stream,
cleanups
and
invasive
plant
removals.
So
those
those
are
some
of
the
options
we
have
there.
If
you
have
not
seen
the
fee
estimator
for
the
stormwater
utility,
we
the
link
is
here
and
I
did
send
Vincent
the
slide.
I
In
terms
of
next
steps.
There
is
a
possibility
that
we
will
have
a
work
session
with
the
County
Board
in
January
staff
has
been
working
basically
over
the
past
year
and
has
a
lot
of
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
has
a
lot
of
recommendations,
and
you
know
would
like
to
to
share
those
with
the
County
Board
and
also
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
engagement
process.
I
So
we
are
working
to
schedule
that,
but
then
the
utility
would
also
be
included
as
part
of
the
fy24
budget
and
so
we'll
go
through
the
budget
hearings
in
February,
March
and
and
April
when
they
would
be
voting
on
that.
So
those
are
the
the
upcoming
participation
options
there.
For
for
that,
so
and
again
we
have
our
our
web
page
here
and
my
email
information
there
and
you
can
also
sign
up
for
updates
on
on
the
website.
A
J
I
Okay,
those
are
great
questions
and
that,
actually
is,
is
Again.
Part
of
you
know
this,
this
critical
effort
that
we
were
baking
in
developing
the
credit
program.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
meaningful,
but
also
trying
again
to
minimize
the
administration
and
and
sort
of
you
know,
paperwork
and,
and
that
kind
of
aspect
to
it.
I
So
we
have
developed
a
a
way
for
people
to
submit
photographs
and
some
minimal
documentation
of
their
rain,
Garden
or
other
facilities,
and
so
you
know
if
they
have
some
photos
of
kind
of
the
process
of
it
being
installed
and
also
or
information
about
how
they
you
know
how
they
did
that
we
we
do
have
a
draft
manual
that
we
will
be
sharing.
You
know
fairly
soon,
that
has
you
know
more
details
there,
so
we
will
ask
for
some
documentation,
but
a
lot
of
it.
I
People
will
be
able
to
submit
electronically,
so
there
won't
be.
Hopefully
you
know
real
a
real
detailed
process
there
and
currently
on
the
tree
question.
We
do
have
a
credit
at
this
time
for
new
tree
planting,
and
so
that's
something
you
know
and
it
depends,
the
number
of
trees
depends
on
the
the
type
of
property,
and
so
that
again
will
be.
I
I
K
But
at
this
point
the
administrative
burden
is
just
too
great
for
us
to
be
able
to
balance
that
out
amongst
the
program.
But
it
may
be
something
that
we
look
at
in
the
future
and
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
to
Vincent,
who
was
very
good
and
helped
out
with
our
tree
planting
criteria
guidelines.
So
we
appreciate
his
wise
counsel
on
that.
G
L
Sorry
I
had
to
step
out
for
a
minute.
So
maybe
you
already
answered
this
question,
but
on
this
General
theme
of
storm
water
reduction
and
runoff,
do
you
have
any
information
about
the
discussion
over
the
summer?
I
think
the
planning
division
was
asked
to
the
County
Board
during
the
budget
committee
commission
meeting
or
the
budget
meetings
in
the
spring
about
looking
into
reducing
the
percentage
of
lot
coverage
allowed
for
buildings.
I
You
know
and
made
made
some
changes
of
that
at
that
time,
but
again
that
that's
kind
of
a
larger
Community
conversation
so
that
that
would
not
be
you
know
affected
by
the
stormwater
utility.
This
is
really
sort
of
looking
at
you
know
the
actual
measures
on
the
lot,
but
not
not
what
the
controls
are,
if
that
makes
sense,
yeah.
L
No,
it
does
I
appreciate
that
kind
of
separate,
but
just
thought
you
might
have
some
information
since
they
are
interrelated
and
then
probably
then
my
question
would
be
more
specific
to
command.
If
you
haven't
answered
this,
why
did
you
end
up
choosing
the
tiers,
rather
than
since
you
have
fairly
precise
Jeep
measurements,
just
go
for
something:
that's
more
square
footage
or
every
100
square
feet,
because
it
seems
a
pretty
wide
band,
and
so
people
have
an
incentive
to
obviously
not
necessarily
go
down
to
the
bottom
of
the
band
and
stick
at
the
top.
Thanks.
K
Sure
so
I'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
this
Eileen.
So
when
our
consultant
ref
tell
us,
was
doing
the
initial
feasibility
work,
they
looked
at
multiple
methods
for
setting
the
residential
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
chose
the
tiering
was
for
ease
of
administration.
When
you
start
getting
down
to
hundreds
of
square
feet
per
billing
unit,
things
can
swing
wildly
from
year
to
year.
K
Basically
rework
your
whole
list
every
year,
instead
of
looking
for
areas
of
change,
so
our
consultant
did
look
at
it,
but
their
recommendation
was
the
residential
tiering
and
we
did-
and
they
did
look
specifically
at
Arlington.
They
did
the
sampling
of
Residential
Properties
to
determine
our
equivalent
residential
unit
at
2
400
square
feet.
M
Two
quick
ones,
one
is
have
you
gotten
yet
to
the
point
where
you're
thinking
of
an
exact
frequency
for
the
survey
you're
talking
about
Krista
a
minute
ago,
you
said:
well,
it
would
be
there's
an
administrative
issue
and
you
might
have
to
do
it
every
year.
Well,
you
know
we're
talking
about
multiple
millions
of
dollars
of
Revenue,
so
it
seems
to
me
that
some
of
the
administrative
steps
in
order
to
do
this,
the
best
it
can
be
done,
would
be
minor
compared
to
the
revenue
that
is
involved
here.
K
K
One
will
be
for
our
purposes,
but
the
three
times
gives
us
lots
of
coverage,
but
no
I
mean
we
will
be
reviewing
the
gis
annually
looking
at
that
annually,
but
it
does
create
an
a
higher
administrative
burden
when
you
are
assessing
each
of
the
residential
units
on
a
smaller
or
more
precise
basis.
Rather
than
doing
the
tiers.
K
J
M
D
M
I'm
looking
for
a
way
to
pay
for
the
tree,
canopy
study
with
this
Water
fee.
So,
okay,
sorry,
one
real
quick
other
thing.
Just
your
your
point
about
the
commercial,
the
the
fee
schedules
for
commercial
I.
Think
if
I'm
correct
these
are
in
the
opposite
situation
as
churches
and
other
non-profits,
where
they
have
a
lot
of
land
and
have
not
paid
well
in
the
case
of
a
commercial
they're,
paying
right
now
by
value
real
estate
property
value.
M
That
most
of
these
are
going
to
actually
probably
see
a
reduction,
and
so
how's
that
going
to
work
is
I
mean.
Is
it
just
gonna
be
they're
just
going
to
pay
less
or
you're
going
to
scale
it
down
in
a
way
to
offset
the
scale
up
of
the
nonprofits
or
yeah?
Is
there
any
grandfathering?
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
yeah.
K
Under
state
code,
there's
there's
nothing
we
can
do
based
on
the
type
of
use,
a
place
of
worship
or
non-profit
is
placing
on
the
property.
It's
solely
based
on
your
your
customer
class
or
what
what
the
property
looks
like.
So
we
couldn't
charge
places
of
worship
at
different
rate
than
we
charge.
You
know
jbg
or
one
of
those
big
commercial
properties.
K
K
I
know
there
was
a
point
that
I
want
to
make
so
earlier
in
the
first
part
of
the
conversation
you
said,
many
of
the
commercial,
like
many
of
the
high
rises,
will
actually
see
their
rates
decrease.
You
know
what
their
pay
decrease
from
when
it
was
based
on
the
Sanitary
District
tax,
because
they're
there
really
is
no
correlation
between
assessments
and
a
usage
of
the
stormwater
infrastructure.
M
Okay,
well
I
just
want
to
say
in
in
finishing
because
I
know
other
people
might
want
to
ask.
But
I
agree
with
Josh's
original
question
about
the
the
bands,
the
Inc,
the
the
three
categories.
I
think
they
could
be
much
more
refined
and
still
not
be
administratively
difficult
and
I
think
it
could
actually
make
a
material
difference
to
the
effect
of
this.
K
O
Hi
Eileen
nice
to
see
you
thank
you
and
I've
been
participating
in
a
couple
other
presentations
that
Eileen
has
done
so
a
couple
questions
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
toggling,
back
and
forth
between
Planning
Commission
on
the
missing
middle
housing.
So
you
may
have
I
may
have
missed
this
already,
but
on
the
with
the
non-profits
in
particular,
in
the
houses
of
worship
and
stuff,
is
there
going
to
be
a
phase-in
for
that?
Is
that
did
you
talk
about
that
at
all,
because
I
know
it
impacts
their
budget
dramatically?
O
I
I
O
Thanks
it's
a
significant
issue,
so
I
know
I'm
hearing
that
you
understand
that
as
well.
I'm
also
concerned
too
that,
on
the
credit
program,
I
know,
Arlington's
is
not
nearly
as
generous
as
some
of
our
neighboring
jurisdictions
and
you
know,
sort
of
to
David's
point
we're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
money
out
of
this,
and
you
know
shouldn't
we
be
a
lot
more
creative
both
on
the
monitoring
and
you
know,
being
more
more
creative
on
the
credit
programs
too.
O
I
We
did
also
hear
you
know
the
that
message
about.
You
know
the
percentages
allowed
and
you
know
we
were
at
this
point
recommending
up
to
about
a
35.
You
know
total
cap.
One
thing
that
is
unique
with
Arlington's
program
is
because
we
have
those
mandatory
credits.
You
know
we
do
have
to
provide,
for
you
know
those
mandatory
credits
for
any
project
installed
as
part
of
a
Redevelopment
Arlington
you
know,
does
require
stormwater
facilities
for
new
homes
and
additions,
and
so
we
are
somewhat
unique.
I
O
Just
something
based
on
construction:
it's
not
based
on
what
people
are
actually
doing
on
their
property.
It's
a
very
minor
credit
for
what
people
are
actually
doing
on
their
property
and
I.
In
my
mind,
it
feels
imbalanced
because
we
know
we're
going
to
get
that.
You
know
through
LDA
2.0,
so
you
know
it's
it
feels
like
we
could
be
doing
a
lot
more
and
being
a
lot
more
creative.
This
feels.
I
I
Yeah
I
mean
I.
We
definitely
hear
that,
but
I
think
another
important
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
is
kind
of
the
intent
of
the
utility
is
really
you
know
to
fund
the
stormwater
Management
program,
so
it
would
be
different
if
you
were
purely
designing
an
incentive
program
or
something
you
know
separate,
you
know,
but
again
the
the
main
purpose
of
the
stormwater
utility
is,
you
know
to
to
fund
the
stormwater
program.
You
know
with
the
credit
program
being
a
component
of
that.
O
A
A
P
So
so
I
missed
this
or
even
how
to
ask
the
question,
but
what
you
were
just
saying
about
our
low-income
people
being
affected
in
a
different
way:
I'm
always
concerned
about
demographics
and
looking
at
North
Arlington
versus
South
Arlington.
Did
you
look
at
the
demographics
and
if
people
of
color
would
be
more
or
less
affected.
K
We
did
do
a
lot
of
heat
maps
with
showing
kind
of
what
the
what
the
change
would
be
for
each
of
the
different
households,
and
that
was
part
of
our
presentation
to
the
County
Board
as
well,
and
also
I
will
say
one
of
the
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
do
have
the
multi-family
great
structure
option.
The
0.18
per
unit
is
to
mitigate
some
of
the
impacts
to
the
affordable
housing
in
the
Garden
Apartments.
A
L
Thank
you
man
for
so
again.
Sorry,
if
I
miss
this
very
interesting
presentation,
you're
going
to
raise
more
money
through
this
as
compared
to
the
current
system
and
kind
of
related
to
Melody's
question
who
is
going
to
see
the
rate
go
up
and
rate
go
down
then
so
whether
I've
been
paying
for
the
decade
or
so
I've
been
living
in
Arlington.
It
is
suddenly
going
to
be
twice
as
much
and
then
back
to
Carolyn's
question
that
we
actually
want
a
quicker
subsidy
of
mitigating
things.
L
K
So
we
have
a
couple
couple
kind
of
complicating
factors
with
the
recent
referenda
to
issue
bonds
for
the
stormwater
program
to
increase
the
amount
of
capital
projects
we're
doing
that
necessitates
the
rate
going
up
whether
we
stayed
on
the
Sanitary
District
tax
or
if
we
move
to
a
utility,
the
that
debt.
So
it's
going
to
generate
more
because
we
need
to
pay
for
more
Debt
Service.
K
K
L
I
Think
a
lot
of
our
system.
Improvements
really
are,
you
know
for
broad
dealing
with
you
know,
wider
scale,
flooding
impacts,
so
I
know,
there's
always
a
lot
of
concern
with
Redevelopment
and
impacts
from
that.
But
you
know
the
type
of
flooding
that
we're
seeing
you
know
is.
Is
you
know
more
Watershed
scale?
It's
really
a
a
broader
system.
You
know
type
of
issue
versus
kind
of
the.
You
know
the
more
lots,
a
lot
impacts
from
Redevelopment.
I
So
and
again,
as
we
you
know,
since
2014
we
have
required
stormwater
Management
Facility
facilities
for
any
Redevelopment
project,
so
any
new
impervious
that
is
created
with
a
Redevelopment.
You
know
they
they
do
have
to
install.
You
know
previous
driveways
Planters
other
other
things
to
manage
that
so,
but
a
lot
of
the
CIP
funding
that
Christ
is
referring
to
is
really
going
towards.
A
M
We
have
to
create
I,
just
think
that
it
needs.
We
need
to
have
a
broader
View,
and
all
of
this
issue
of
cost
boils
down
to
you
know:
what's
the
definition
of
cost
and
if
you
want
to
have
a
couple
million
dollars
of
costs
that
involve
staff
and
and
training
and
public
education
and
a
variety
of
other
things
as
part
of
this
that
ultimately
benefits
the
overall
storm
water
system.
M
So
I
just
think
it's
defined
a
little
bit
too
narrowly
and
I'd
like
to
see
before
we
get
so
far
along
that
you
can't
change
anything
in
the
approach.
I'd
just
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
flexibility,
and
that
also
goes
back
to
Josh's
point.
It
means
that
you
have
to
have
the
beneficial
results
of
that
flexibility
by
passing
it
on
to
individuals
who
are
making
more
responsible
decisions
on
their
own
property.
A
Your
comment
David.
We
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
and,
and
I
I'm
just
going
to
comment
briefly
myself,
I'm,
just
Disturbed,
that
this
program
does
not
offer
any
incentive
to
keep
large
old
trees,
large
canopy
trees
on
properties.
In
fact,
the
incentive
is
to
cut
it
down
and
plant
two
or
three
small
ones
which
will
produce
real
storm
water
reduction
20
years
down
the
path.
A
So,
if
we're
doing
this
change,
I'm
not
sure
why
we're
not
building
in
incentives
to
protect
and
preserve
our
existing
tree
canopy,
as
well
as
these
incentives
to
to
plant
little
rain
Gardens
and
things
like
that
which
have
nowhere
near
the
same
impact
from
a
water
storm
water
reduction
process.
I
think
that
it's
I
understand
that
you're
trying
to
get
funds
to
pay
the
debt,
which
is
for
a
critical
thing
for
us
to
have
a
water
system,
storm
water
system
that
works
for
the
entire
Community.
A
F
A
To
thank
you
both
Eileen
and
Krista,
for
coming
tonight
with
it
was
very
informative
and
I
know.
I
did
not
know
much
about
this
and
I
I'm
pleased
that
you
took
the
time
to
share
it
with
us.
So
thank
you
very
much.
You're
welcome
to
experience
with
the
rest
of
the
meeting
or
you're
welcome
to
do
something
that
might
be
more
palatable
so.
K
A
A
N
N
As
luck
would
have
it
Tuesday
night
I
got
to
give
the
same
presentation
to
the
park
and
rec
commission
so
you'll
find
this
presentation
straddles
both
issues,
because
our
agency
straddles
both
issues
of
recreation
and
and
natural
resource
protection,
and
does
that
work
when
I
Advance
it
that
way?
Yes,
okay,
great
wonderful,
great!
So
a
little
bit
about
Nova
Parks,
we
are
a
regional
park
agency.
We
have
three
counties
and
three
cities
that
are
member
jurisdictions.
N
We've
been
around
for
63
years,
Arlington
was
one
of
the
founding
jurisdictions,
along
with
the
city
of
Falls
Church
in
Fairfax
County.
We
currently
have
35
regional
parks
and
over
12
000
Acres
of
Parkland
and
we're
and
we're
growing
that
all
the
time
we
do
a
strategic
plan
every
five
years.
That
really
is
the
The
Guiding
principles
of
of
of
what
drives
our
actions
over
the
over
the
coming
years.
A
little
bit
about
some
of
the
high
level
users.
N
N
We
have
five
water
parks
about
300
000
users
there,
and
we
have
three
golf
courses
about
a
hundred
thousand
rounds
collectively,
so
we
did
a
strategic
plan
over
the
last
year
or
so
and
we
adopted
it
in
September.
We
worked
to
get
a
lot
of
good
public
feedback
on
the
on
the
plan
and
we
made
the
environment
the
the
first
pillar
of
the
plan.
So
our
our
pillars
are
environment,
belonging
building
the
future.
N
We
put
it
online
got
had
a
survey
I
had
five
local
newspaper
articles
got
lots
of
great
feedback
from
our
various
partners
and
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
bold
plan
that
will
move
us
forward
and
now
I'm,
going
to
just
kind
of
hit
a
few
of
the
things
in
the
Strategic
plan
that
I
think
you'll
be
probably
most
interested
in
no
way.
N
I
could
go
through
it
all
in
this
in
this
time,
but
one
of
them
is
to
complete
the
prescribed
invasive
species
plan
for
Upton
Hill,
particularly
also
aquan.
These
are
two
parks
that
have
a
detailed
plan
that
we're
working
on
currently
and
the
photo
that
you
see
there
I'm
extremely
proud
of,
because
two
years
ago
that
was
filled
with
invasive
plants
and
really
working
with
Arlington
Master,
naturalists,
Nova,
Park
staff
and
equipment
and
a
contract
that
we
have
with
invasive
plant
control.
N
N
But
in
our
most
urban
areas
and
we've
just
been
talking
about
how
much
of
Arlington
County's
impervious
surface
and
and
how
much
is
tree
canopy,
we
don't
have
very
many
opportunities
to
to
acquire
more
land,
but
what
we
can
do
is
take
the
land
that
we
have
and
enhance
its
its
ecological
value
and
that
comes
down
to
invasive
species
removal
we
are
in
addition
to
Potomac
Overlook.
Excuse
me:
Upton,
Hill,
we're
working
with
with
arm
Potomac
Overlook.
We
want
to
really
accelerate
some
of
our
our
invasive
species.
N
See
did
I
hit
the
next
one
yeah,
so
you
will
see
Melody
right
there
in
that
photo.
Another
part
of
our
our
efforts
are
to
really
expand
our
our
nature,
Outreach
and
we
are
going
to
be
putting
more
interpretive
signs
about
habitats
within
our
Parks.
We
have
a
series
of
signs
about
for
succession
that
will
educate
the
public
about
that.
N
We've
for
about
two
years
now
had
a
Black
and
Hispanic
birding
program
based
out
of
of
out
of
Upton
Hill.
That's
a
wonderful
partnership
with
the
Arlington
NAACP,
with
the
Arlington
master
naturalist,
with
Audubon
Society
of
Northern,
Virginia
and
Nova
parks,
and
we
want
to
take
that
model
and
expand
it.
We
also
want
to
identify
areas
where
Title
One
schools
are
near
our
parks
and
do
more
Outreach.
The
program
that
we
did
just
just
last
week
on
Thursday
was
at
Upton
Hill
and
was
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club.
N
These
kids
came
out
had
a
fantastic
experience
and
learned
a
great
deal,
and
it
it's
exactly
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
want
to
do
so
that
we're
building
the
conservationists
for
for
tomorrow
and
really
expanding
the
knowledge
of
of
these
kids
so
that
they
can.
They
can
lead
us
in
the
future
a
little
bit
about
trees
and
and
natural
resource
banking.
So,
in
our
strategic
plan
we
talk
about
natural
resource
banking.
N
We
have
been
planting
about
a
thousand
trees
a
year,
so
50
000
is
you
know
10
10
times
our
our
normal
rate
of
trees.
This
will
be
reforesting
about
200,
Acres,
collectively
in
four
or
five
different
Parks.
These
are
parks
that
are
outside
of
Arlington,
because
they're
areas,
where
we
have
larger
grassy
areas
that
could
be
forested-
that
we
can
come
in
and
and
and
really
make
a
big
impact,
and
while
those
four
state
reforestation
efforts
may
be
just
outside
of
Arlington,
they
will.
N
They
will
benefit
us
all
by
filtering
the
air,
helping
groundwater
doing
all
the
wonderful
things
that
forests
do
expanding
habitat
for
for
wildlife
and
the
term
natural
resource
banking
includes
a
number
of
different
things,
which
are
carbon
credits.
Nutrient
credits,
nutrient
credit,
is
basically
storm:
water,
Wetland
credits.
N
N
In
the
area
of
reducing
our
carbon
footprint,
Nova
parks
for
years
has
been
measuring
all
of
our
our
carbon
uses,
so
whether
we
use
a
gallon
of
fuel
or
a
kilowatt
of
energy
or
or
a
therm
of
natural
gas
or
what
whatever
measurement
it
is.
We
take
all
of
our
energy
use
measure
it
all
convert
it
all
to
carbon
and
track
it
annually
and
we
award
our
facility
that
has
reduced
their
carbon
footprint
by
the
highest
percentage
each
year.
We've
done
that
for
years
you
can
see
the
chart
on
the
top.
N
But
in
our
strategic
plan
we
have
a
number
of
new
and
new
initiatives
that
relate
to
this
and
it's
the
adoption
of
electric
vehicles,
adoption
of
electric
mowers,
EV
charging
stations
solar
panels
on
on
at
more
of
our
Parks,
so
that
we
are
taking
a
lead
in
these
areas
within
the
the
constraints
of
our
budget,
which
is
always
constrained.
We're
going
to
be
trying
to
put
resources
towards
these
things
demonstrate
them,
help
the
public,
understand
them
and
and
help
help
move
us
in
a
in
a
positive
direction.
N
N
The
picture
in
the
upper
right
you
see
was
on
the
wnod,
where
we
unveiled
last
February
the
a
series
of
signs
about
segregation
practices
when
the
wnod
was
a
railroad.
We
have
also
unveiled
two
really
Innovative
facilities.
One
is
the
Dual
trails
in
Falls
Church
and
the
other
one
is
climb
Upton
at
Upton
Hill,
so
a
little
bit
about
dual
Trails.
We
we've
got
a
lot
of
interest
in
that
because
our
strategic
plan
says
that
we
are
going
to
pursue
dual
trails
in
Arlington
and
we
have
a
grant
for
the
design.
N
So
there's
no
Grant
to
build
it,
but
there's
a
grant
to
help
us
do
the
design
we
haven't
started
on
that,
yet
we're
still
working
on
Grant,
Logistics
and
and
working
all
that
out,
but
I
can
talk
about
what
we
did
in
Falls
Church
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
constraints
we
can
see
in
in
Arlington
as
we
move
forward
you,
you
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
storm
water
and
the
the
revised
dual
trails
in
Falls.
Church
addresses
storm
water.
N
For
the
first
time
the
the
wnod
was
a
you
know.
As
everyone
knows,
a
rail
bed
and
in
the
1980s
we
put
a
a
strip
of
asphalt
on
it
and
over
time
that
asphalt
has
grown,
as
as
the
trails
use
has
increased,
but
with
the
redesign
we
she
did
all
the
the
asphalt
to
a
Swale
that
goes
along
the
side.
We
have
French
drains.
N
In
there
we
have
modular
Wetlands,
which
I'll
explain
in
a
second,
we
have
the
the
swales
are
filled
with
with
Native
grasses
pollinator
plants,
so
it
both
enhances
the
the
biodiversity
as
well
as
handle
storm
water.
As
you
all
know,
the
the
goal
of
storm
water
is
slow,
it
down,
filter
it
and
that's
what
we
have
we've
designed
I
think
we
were
the
first
organization,
public
or
private
in
in
Northern
Virginia
to
use
this
new
technology
called
a
modular
Wetland
and
you
see
a
picture
of
it
at
the
bottom.
N
It's
a
it's
a
Concrete
structure,
that's
buried
underground
at
the
surface
and
it
captures
the
water
runs
it
through
a
bunch
of
media
that
filters
it
and
has
plants
growing
out
at
the
top
from
the
surface.
It
just
looks
like
it
looks
like
not
much
like
like
a
flower
bed,
but
it
it
does
this
task
of
capturing
the
water,
slowing
it
down,
filtering
it
and
releasing
it
more
slowly.
N
So
we're
we're
excited
about
that.
The
The
Falls
Church
dual
Trails,
achieved
a
bunch
of
different
things.
We
were
able
to
remove
a
lot
of
invasive
species.
We
were
able
to
enhance
the
the
biodiversity
through
the
plantings
that
are
there
and
we
were
able
to
address
storm
water,
so
I
I
think
we've
set
a
a
model.
That
is
a
great
model
and
we
need
to
figure
out
where
and
how
we
can
apply
this
in
Arlington.
The
picture
at
the
top
is
a
Falls
Church
section.
N
N
Four
Mile
Run
is
is
just
off
the
trail
property,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
obstacles
that
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
and
how
to
design
around,
and
in
some
places
we
may
not
be
able
to
achieve
the
goal,
but
the
overall
goal-
and
the
goal
I
think
is
really
worth
thinking
about-
is
that
the
wnod
is
not
just
a
a
weekend.
Recreational
resource
anymore.
N
N
One
of
the
things
we're
seeing
is
more
conflicts
of
users
between
the
intersections
it
used
to
be
all
the
accidents
happened
at
intersections
now.
Pedestrians
and
cyclists
are
bumping
into
each
other.
More
and
more.
We've
done
traffic
studies.
Almost
every
intersection
with
the
wnod
fails
or
is
near
failure
just
from
a
traffic
study
perspective,
so
it
it
makes
sense
to
wherever
we
can
improve
it
so
that
we
can
get
more
capacity.
N
So
it's
a
better
experience
for
everyone
to
use
the
trail
and
it's
an
opportunity
to
get
in
there
and
design
it
so
it
it
filters
our
storm
water
and
enhances
our
our
biodiversity.
There's
been,
you
know,
there's
those
that
don't
like
the
idea.
I
mean
there's
there's
there
is
no
plan
yet
on
on
Arlington,
so
all
people
can
oppose
is
the
idea
have
talked
about
a
lot
about
trees.
N
They
have
done
amazing
work
in
partnering
with
us
at
at
our
parks
and
helping
us
address
invasive
species.
I'll
end
with
this
beautiful
picture
again,
which
looks
so
much
better
than
it
did
two
years
ago
and
I
am
hoping
we
can
do
a
lot
more
efforts
like
this
and
and
see
that
kind
of
result,
but
happy
to
answer
your
questions.
N
A
L
Yes,
thanks
thanks
Paul
for
very
interesting
presentation
and
very
glad
to
see
you
have
now
gotten
into
the
invasive
removals
big
time
in
Arlington,
enhanced
ecological
values
by
removing
invasives
great
way.
To
put
it,
and
if
I
understood
you
correctly,
it's
170,
770
000
of
your
own
money
is
that's
correct,
so
that,
as
we
understand,
that's
like
more
than
we're,
normally
just
doing
per
year,
right
Phil,
based
on
the
presentation
we
had
a
while
back
yeah.
A
N
L
L
I
understand
that,
but
still
a
big
commitment.
So,
of
course,
the
question
related
to
that
is:
where
is
Potomac
Overlook
on
the
kind
of
agenda
Second
Great,
to
see
you're
trying
to
reduce
the
the
carbon
footprint
and
saw
the
list
of
electric
Vehicles
would
have
you
to
substitute
for
gas
powered
ones?
L
Where
is
the
electric
leaf
blower
concept,
because
I
can
tell
you
nothing
spoils
a
morning
walking
up
in
Hill
as
much
as
having
those
electric
sorry,
the
gas
leaf
blowers
roaring
away,
so
I
urge
you
to
think
about
electric
leaf,
Builders,
really
quick,
particularly
in
our
Urban
environments
and
then
finally,
on
wmd
trail,
I
think
one
of
the
key
issues
on
trees
is
yes.
This
lower
lower
can
smaller
trees
underneath
the
power
lines,
some
very
beautiful
ones
in
the
spring.
The
flower
though,
but
it's
the
Brandy,
more
Castle
area,
it's
straightening.
L
The
trail,
as
was
talked
about
earlier
at
the
beginning
of
this,
would
involve
cutting
down
mature
trees
there
and
then
second,
the
overall
issue
of
we
already
have
the
Dual
Trail
through
most
of
that
part
of
Arlington,
there's
your
Trail
so
to
speak,
and
then
the
one
by
Arlington
County.
So
can
we
better
manage
those
preserve
some
trees
and
avoid
putting
a
road
right
next
to
Four,
Mile
Run?
So
sorry,
three
different
kind
of
points
there,
but
just
there's
kind
of
questions
in
all
of
them.
Thanks
very
much
sure.
N
I'd
also
like
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Michael
nardolilly,
who
is
one
of
our
Arlington
County
Representatives
on
the
Nova
Parks
Board,
who
has
also
joined
us
so
and
Josh.
Forgive
me
if
I,
if
I
miss
any
part
of
your
questions,
but
I'll
take
the
last
one
first,
which
is
the
the
the
the
Dual
trails
again
we
haven't,
we
haven't
designed
any
of
it.
Yet
it
is.
It
is
an
idea,
and
so
we
will.
N
There
are
places
like
the
wnod
is
a
great
example
where
our
maintenance
crew
starts
on
one
end
of
the
45
miles
and
goes
all
the
way
to
the
end
and
then
starts
again,
and
they
are.
They
are
mowing
weed
whacking
blowing
all
day
long
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
tool
that
will
do
the
job.
So
there
may
be
some
limitations
initially,
because
just
because
technology
is
catching
up
technology
getting
better
all
the
time,
but
there
are
parks
where
we
don't
need
it.
We
don't
need
whatever.
It
is
running.
L
P
You
again
I
wanted
all
my
fellow
Commissioners
to
know
that
Paul
took
time
out
of
his
busy
schedule
to
join
us
at
one
of
the
nature
programs
in
Blackbird
or
Black
and
Hispanic
latinx
birder
programs.
We
headed
up
to
nail
last
Thursday
and
I,
really
appreciate
this
plan
and
the
emphasis
that
you
have
on
making
people
of
color
feel
welcome
in
the
Parks.
P
That's
what
I
hear
more
than
anything
in
the
Parks
from
people
of
colors
I,
don't
see
anybody
who
looks
like
me
or
I
don't
feel
like
this
is
a
place
that
I
am
welcome
to
come.
So
thank
you
so
much
Paul
for
the
emphasis
that
you're
placing
on
making
these
Parks
available
to
and
welcoming
to
everyone.
Thank
you
so
much.
N
Melanie
is
always
such
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you.
I
will
just
share
with
everyone
that
Melanie
reached
out
to
me
a
few
weeks
back
about
our
our
manager
at
at
Upton,
Hill,
Evan
McGregor
and
said
he
is
doing
such
a
great
job
and
he's
doing
a
great
job
in
building
these
Partnerships
that
are
bringing
in
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
doing
the
the
Black
and
Hispanic
birding
program.
N
These
are
the
Partnerships
with
Arlington
master
naturalist,
with
with
Arlington
NAACP,
with
Audubon
Society,
and
because
of
her
suggestion
we
gave
Evan
the
first
of
of
a
series
of
awards
that
will
be
given
that
is
called
our
strategic,
Champion
award
and
so
I
I.
Thank
you
for
pointing
that
out
and
appreciate
all
that.
All
that
you're
doing
to
help
us
out.
Q
Would
it
I
know
you
said
the
the
the
the
trails
were
permeable
but
wouldn't
make
more
sense
to
make
The
Pedestrian
Trails,
something
like
Limestone
chips
or
something
other
than
asphalt,
and
the
second
question
is:
are
there
any
plants
you've
outlined
some
problems
with
putting
trees
on
the
trail
or
what
about
putting
in
plants
like
milkweed?
That
would
be
attracted
to
pollinators,
and
that
leads
to
a
third
question.
Is
there
any
plan
for
systematically
putting
in
sort
of
pollinator
attractors
throughout
the
parks
thanks
yeah.
N
Great
questions,
so
we
have
and
I
can
I
could
share
with
the
the
commission
after
the
meeting
a
list
of
the
Native
grasses
and
shrubs
and
other
things
that
we
that
we
put
in
and
in
Falls
Church
but
I,
you
know
adding
milkweed
and
other
pollinator
plants
is
always
is
always
good.
We
we
have
pollinator
plants,
but
you
can
never
have
too
many
so
I.
That
might
be
something
that
we
can
do.
N
There
are
some
sections
of
permeable
asphalt
and
the
reason
is
that
the
wnod
gets
driven
on
by
large
utility
trucks,
particularly
Dominion,
and
the
permeable
concrete
and
asked
and
asphalt
are
structurally,
not
very
sound,
so
they
work
well,
where
you're
not
going
to
have
a
heavy
vehicle
on
it,
but
they
they
collapse
and
break
up
where
you
put
heavy
vehicles.
So
we
have.
We
have
sheeted
everything
we
put
in
these
modular
Wetlands.
N
We
have
some
spots
where
we
have
permeable
pavement,
where
it's
not
going
to
be
driven
on
by
a
truck,
but
most
of
it
is
is,
is
impermeable,
but
it
is
designed
with
the
with
the
storm
water
in
mind.
So
basically
well,
it's
it's
wider.
The
the
the
ecological
footprint
is,
is
you
know
much
smaller
than
what's
there
today
and
was.
N
One
is
that's
popular
to
have
it
as
asphalt
it
and
we
would
like
to
keep
pedestrians
on
The,
Pedestrian
side
and
cyclists
on
the
cycling
side,
and
if
you
don't
pave
it,
then
pedestrians
go
back
to
the
cycling
side.
The
other
issue
is,
if
you
use
stone,
dust
or
gravel
or
anything
like
that,
it's
it's
largely
considered,
impervious
because
it
because
it
compacts.
R
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Paul
I
actually
read
your
or
at
least
the
environmental
part
of
the
Strategic
Plan
before
the
meeting,
and
there
were
a
couple
of
things
that
caught
my
attention.
First
of
all,
have
you
been
reporting
all
of
your
tree
plantings,
so
they
get
credit
at
the
state
level
for
the
Chesapeake,
Bay
whip,
three
goals,
and
if
not,
we
can
talk
offline
about
how
to
do
that.
R
R
And
thirdly-
and
this
is
also
for
the
the
commissioners-
the
Virginia
Department
of
Forestry-
is
using
infrastructure
money
to
set
up
and
establish
an
invasive
species
program.
That
I
believe
will
have
some
funding
to
help
do
projects
at
the
local
level.
Just
I
think
it
was
yesterday
or
the
day
before
we
posted
an
invasive
species
specialist
position
to
help
administer
those
funds.
So
please
be
flexible
in
your
thinking.
There
may
be
other
money
available
to
do
more
Management
on
invasive
species,
on
the
property.
R
G
S
Back
to
the
issue
of
leaves,
it
seems
like
there's
an
increasing
awareness
that
the
noise,
the
air
pollution
that
comes
with
the
gas
powered
leaf
blowers,
is
bad
for
the
health
of
the
workers
and,
as
Josh
points
to
is
really
becoming
a
quality
of
life
issue.
There's
also
increasing
recognition
that
the
nutrients
in
leaves
are
actually
best
left
on
the
ground
or
at
least
pushed
towards
the
tree
tree
trunks
is
Nova
Parks,
looking
at
sort
of
a
fundamental
reduction
in
in
this
exercise.
That
would
then
you
know,
save
labor
pollution
energy.
N
Yeah
absolutely
we
are.
We
are
always
looking
to
where
in
our
parks
we
can
reduce
the
the
the
sort
of
manicured
footprint
and
if
we
can
go
to
a
mo,
a
Nomo
area
and
let
the
grass
grow.
That's
a
great
thing.
If
we
can
reforest
an
area,
that's
even
better,
so
it's
it's
always
a
balance
of
what
areas
do
we
need
kind
of
cleared
out
for
for
recreational
purposes?
N
N
Please
sure
absolutely
that
is.
That
is
another
big,
bold
idea
with
with
not
a
lot
of
detail.
So
the
the
basic
idea
is
we
have
this
trail.
That
is
the
most
used
trail
in
Virginia,
one
of
the
most
used
trails
in
the
in
the
world
two
to
three
million
users
a
year,
and
wouldn't
it
be
cool
to
have
a
a
place
that
that
people
could
kind
of
identify
with
this
45
mile
Trail.
N
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
spot
in
in
Arlington
and
it's
interesting
because
while
we
have
45
miles
it's
one
of
the
most
developed
45
mile
corridors
anywhere
because
essentially
Northern
Virginia
grew
up
around
it,
because
the
trade
the
the
railroad
came
in
and
then
all
of
the
the
stops
from
Shirlington
to
you
know
all
the
way
to
personville
all
the
towns
and
cities
and
and
places
develop,
because
there
was
a
railroad
there
and
a
stop.
So
there
are
very
few
places
where
there's
a
few
Acres
of
additional
land.
N
So
our
property
is
100
feet
wide
in
most
places
and
in
most
places
there's
not
any
additional
land
which
we
would
need
to
build.
That
kind
of
a
visitor
center.
Where
people
could
stop
get
information,
you
know
get
something
to
drink.
Maybe
there
would
be
opportunities
to
rent
bikes
or
you
know.
We
haven't
really
thought
through
all
all
the
things
that
could
be
there,
but
it
could
really
give
a
sense
of
place
to
to
the
trail
that
right
now
doesn't
have
a
one
focal
point.
So
thank.
A
A
But
it
can
be
touted
as
not
just
not
just
that
we're
making
improvements
with
the
storm
water
management,
and
he
documented
that
it's
better
by
some
percentage
than
it
was
before.
Even
though
the
trail
is
wider
and
has
carries
more
capacity,
but
also
the
same
claim
that
we
will
have
in
fact
a
much
better,
more
diverse
natural
Wildlife
areas
along
that
valuable
bike
path
and
I.
Think
that
that
so
it's
a
plus
plus
rather
than
what
are
we
trading
off
here.
A
N
Just
comment
on
your
comment:
the
Neto
one
is
a
great
one,
because
we
we
all
are
talking
a
lot
about
forests
and
they
are
vitally
important.
But,
as
you
all
know,
because
your
natural
resource
experts,
Meadows,
is
actually
the
most
endangered
habitat
type
in
in
our
area,
because
most
places
that
have
Meadows
are
just
primed
for
development.
N
A
Well,
thank
you
I'm
glad
you
liked
my
suggestion
and
I
want
to
thank
you.
You
and
Mike
Michael
both
for
coming
tonight.
You're
always
welcome
to
come
to
our
meetings,
especially
when
you're
bringing
us
good
news,
and
we
are
going
to
go
and
move
on
to
other
items
on
the
agenda.
You
can
welcome
to
stay,
of
course,
or
you're
welcome
to
to
move
to
do
something
different,
but
thanks
for
your
time
and
your
energy
and
I'm
sure
we'll
be
talking
soon.
Thank.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
and
so
now,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
want
to
refocus
us
back.
We've
now
had
two
presentations
and
I
just
wanted
to
see
what
the
desire
is
of
the
commission
with
regards
to
commenting
or
making
recommendations
for
on
either
as
a
reaction
to
either
of
these
presentations.
So
let's
first
go
back
to
the
stormwater
utility
program.
L
Yes,
unfortunately,
I
see
another
letter
in
our
lives,
kind
of
combining
Melody,
Davids
myself
and
Caroline's
comments
that
are
a
little
bit
more
refinement
part
and
a
couple
in
the
comments
time
me.
I,
missed,
are
needed
in
terms
of
incentives
and
so
on,
but
I
hesitate
to
say
that,
because
my
time
is
kind
of
short
in
the
next
week
or
two
so
I
was
trying
to
take
some
notes
there,
but
I
mean
I'm
glad
they're
doing
this.
Take
these
steps
but
needs
a
little
more
work.
A
F
A
A
F
A
Okay,
thank
you,
okay
could
could
would
someone
like
to
at
least
well
no
I
think
you
understand
it
since
we
don't
have
to
approve
this
now
before
the
thing's
drafted.
We
can
look
at
a
copy
along
the
way
and
make
comments
and
then
approve
it
in
January,
so
I
don't
think
we
don't
need
to
vote
for
him
to
write
it.
We
just
need
to
vote
to
approve
it
at
the
when
it's
finalized.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
S
Oh
yes,
I
will
send
John
a
note,
I
I
think
the
excellent
comments
by
David
and
Caroline
and
Josh
also
pointed
out
a
narrowness
about
through
which
they're
looking
at
this
issue
and
looking
in
our
letter,
we
can
urge
them
to
see
it
in
the
broader
context
of
the
of
challenges
that
are
directly
related.
So
John
about
that.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
So
we're
agreed
upon
that
and
now,
let's
talk
about
what
we
just
heard
from
Paul
regarding
Nova
Parks
and
plans
going
forward
is
the
is
there
any?
Should
we
other
than
having
told
several
of
us?
Having
said
we
like
elements
of
what
he
told
us,
is
there
any
other
action
that
we
should
take
as
a
commission?
A
A
L
So
we
might
want
to
urge
that
realizing.
We
may
have
different
points
of
view
on
the
WOD
Trail
and
the
commission
I
think
we
should
at
least
draw
on
your
point
of
please
take
steps
to
improve
the
wildlife
habitat
if
you
will
or
naturalize
the
area
or
create
swales
in
any
event,
because
that
is
needed
regardless
if
they
widen
the
trail.
So
that
is
certainly
a
fair
point
to
make
I
think
in
general
and
commend
them
on
their
effort
to
find
Meadow
areas
and
this
overall
philosophy.
L
If
we
can't
expand
the
land
people
in
Arlington,
let's
figure
out
how
to
make
the
land
use
better.
If
you
will
so
at
their
parks
and
Arlington
Upton
Hill
Park
has
some
Meadow
areas
we
partially
saw
one
in
the
photo
he
was
displaying.
Can
small
Meadow
environments
be
created
there,
so
there'd
be
those
kind
of
points
that
would
be
positive
and
urge
more.
If
you
will.
A
M
So
I'm
just
I
think
all
these
points
are
very
good.
I
thought
it
was
a
good
presentation
and
there's
a
lot
of
positive
things
to
take
from
the
new
strategic
plan.
But
if
the
recipient
of
our
letter
is
the
County
Board,
then
making
recommendations
or
response
giving
responses
to
what
Nova
Parks
is
doing
I,
don't
know
whether
we
do
that
to
the
county
board
or
or
what
and
I
I
think
that.
M
Actually,
since
in
the
next
few
months,
we're
probably
going
to
see
the
beginning
of
the
engagement
on
the
on
the
trail
that
we
might
want
to
keep
these
things
in
our
pocket
and
include
them
as
the
introductory
paragraphs
to
a
letter
that
we
send
to
the
board
about
how
the
trail
engagement
is
progressing
and
what
the
initial
plan
might
want
to
have
or
need
to
be,
you
know
included
or
mitigated
or
whatever.
In
other
words,
I,
don't
have
a
problem,
I
guess
sending
a
letter
to
Nova
parks
to
say
hey.
M
These
are
good
things,
I,
don't
know
how
why
we
send
if
we
send
it
to
the
board
it's
a
different
letter.
That's
all
I'm
saying-
and
my
reaction
is
very
positive
to
all
of
this,
but
I
think
this
is
a
little
bit
different
in
the
in
the
sense
of
precedent
from
what
we
did
with
a
similar
kind
of
letter.
For
when
we
commented
about
APS,
including
a
budget
line
for
trees,
which
was
congratulatory
and
brief.
But
it
was
part
of
the
County
government
still
and
I'm,
not
sure
whether
this
is
the
same
thing.
M
A
And
in
response
to
that,
David
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
we
did
send
a
rather
strong
letter
to
our
County
Board
about
what
we
felt
were
shortcomings
in
how
Nova
Parks
was
managing
the
natural
areas
and
the
the
in
commenting
that
they
were
not
good
stewards.
We
were
worried
that
they
were
not
good
stewards
of
a
Parkland
in
Arlington
County,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
I
you
know
if
this
is
a
different
situation
or
not
I,
don't
think
that
one
I'd
we
would
not
send
the
letter
to
Nova
Parks.
A
A
Whatever
the
right
phrasing,
is
it's
not
a
lot,
I,
don't
think
it's
a
long
letter
either,
and
probably
it's
not
one
where
we
would
get
into
pointing
out
things
that
Nova
Parks
should
do
differently,
because
he
heard
us
I
think
yeah
that
works
yeah.
So
if
there
is
support
for
such
a
letter,
is
there
someone
willing
to
draft
this?
A
relatively
brief
and
and
probably
essentially
positive,
pointing
out
good
news
to
our
County
Board
about
steps
that
Nova
Parks
has
is
taking
in
its
new
strategic
plan.
L
Well,
if
I
can
contribute
here
to
kind
of
combine
the
two
concepts
in
terms
of
the
governance
mechanism
of
Nova
Parks.
Yes,
on
the
one
hand,
Paul's
now
heard
directly
from
us
in
one
of
Arlington
counties,
Representatives
new
Innova
Parks
is
listening
in,
but
it
seems
like
we're
within
our
preview
to
write
the
County
Board
in
the
fashion
you
two
have
described
with
the
kind
of
sense
of
our
thoughts
would
be
passed
along
to
our
representatives
to
Nova
Parks.
L
So,
yes,
thank
you
for
taking
the
good
steps
you've
taken
over
these
last
many
months
or
a
couple
years.
Thank
you
for
putting
the
funds
to
the
positive
things
and
then
the
couple
things
where
we're
recommending
urging
or
suggesting
do
more.
Those
would
be
included
in
that
letter
as
well
still
brief
and
I
would
hesitate,
though,
to
kind
of
say,
link
the
wnd
trail
issue
to
the
other
two
issues
to
delay
such
a
letter
versus
just
flagging.
L
What
we
understand
the
state
of
play
at
the
moment
in
WOD
and
the
kind
of
points
we
raised
swales
would
be
good.
This
kind
of
restoring
Meadowland
would
be
good,
looking
forward
to
see
where
they
come
up
with
their
plan,
as
we
get
more
into
the
details,
but
at
least
flag.
Our
thoughts
at
the
moment,
so
the
County
Board
and
by
a
kind
of
extension
of
our
representatives
to
Nova
parks,
are
aware
of
our
commissions.
Thinking
on
these
topics.
A
A
A
They
would
have
money
if
they
get
the
grant
for
the
improvements
to
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
paths,
because
that's
all
part
of
that
project,
but
if
it's,
if
we're
asking
them
to,
if
we're
recommending
that
they
do
the
improvements
on
their
own
now,
without
having
any
knowledge
of
whether
this,
what
they
want
and
I'm,
not
saying
I'm
in
favor
of
it
I,
don't
think
we
can
expect
them
reasonably
to
take
action
to
to
do
the
swales
and
The
Meadows,
unless
it's
part
of
where
they
will
have
money
to
do
it.
Well,.
L
Phil
I
generally,
don't
know,
I
think
we
kind
of
had
a
parallel
conversation
whatever
when
we
wrote
the
letter
12
months
24
months
ago,
and
forgetting
that
we
shouldn't
get
into
giving
them
recommendations
on
budget
or
budgeting
this
or
that,
and
then
we
have
discovered
they
apparently
can't
find
170
000
dollars
to
their
own
money.
To
do
these
things,
so
it's
we
don't
have
to
urge,
spend
money,
do
it
rapidly.
The
sky
is
falling,
but
these
are
steps
we're
looking
forward
to
them
taking
kind
of
concept
and
look
into
it
further.
I
M
Could
I
just
clarify
that
yeah
if
we
just
write
a
congratulatory
letter,
the
saying
this?
These
are
good
initiatives
you
know
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
them
on
common
ground
and
all
that
I'm.
Okay,
with
that,
we've
done
that
before
I
I,
just
I'm
not
sure
we're
quite
ready
for
recommendations
to
the
county
for
things
that
they
should
be
doing
out
of
a
context
of
an
of
a
actual
project
proposal.
But
I'm
I'm,
not
that's.
L
L
O
O
And
we
couldn't
note
that
you
know
this
is
something
we
had
identified.
We
feel
like
it's,
it's
the
first
step
towards
being
addressed,
but
I
wouldn't
say
it's
all
yep
yet
because
we
don't
know,
you
know
we're
just
the
front
end
of
this,
but
seems
to
be
a
positive
step
in
that
direction.
Something
along
those
lines.
Q
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
that
we
mentioned
and
we
would
like
to
see
done.
We
don't
have
to
make
a
formal
recommendation
of
the
board.
We
could
just
say
this
was
our
reaction
and
then
you
know
say
the
the
general
stuff
about
how
this
is
a
change
of
position
and
and
we
like
the
direction
they're
going.
S
S
T
What
does
it
mean
that
they're
willing
to
provide
more
support
at
Potomac,
Overlook,
I,
haven't
heard
of
it
and
I
haven't
seen
it?
They
are
have
that
have
provided
some
staff
resources
to
support
the
volunteers,
which
is
good
and
they're,
and
it's
good
staff
but
I'd
like
to
actually
see
and
hear
what
a
plan
would
be.
A
S:
okay,
so
we
have
a
range
of
opinions
here.
I
would
say
some
people
wanting
to
go
with
a
this
is
good
news.
I
want
to
make
sure
the
board's
aware
of
of
I'm
okay
with
a
new
focus
on
stewardship,
and
we
think
it's
very
appropriate
versus
one.
That's
more
pointed
more
focused
on,
let's
not
just
fall
over
with
Glee
at
the
first
PowerPoint.
Let's
prove
it
to
us
kind
of
a
thing.
A
I'll
tell
you
where
I
am
I'm
opposed
to
that.
Second,
that
second
letter
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
us
at
this
point
to
come
down
hard.
I
think
that
what
we've
saw
is
a
significant
change
in
the
world
of
Nova
Parks
as
of
two
years
ago,
four
years
ago,
ten
years
ago,
even
one
year
ago,
now
how
it
plays
out
I,
don't
know
so,
is
there
any
consensus
for
any
kind
of
a
letter?
Well,
yes,
all.
L
Right
one
final
Point,
as
we
should
also
include
this
issue
of
including
becoming
more
inclusive
in
the
park
and
trying
to
get
more
people
to
the
park,
because
this
kind
of
back
and
forth
of
the
example
of
the
climbing
structured
up
in
Hill
I,
remember
talking
to
them
four
or
five
years
ago,
when
you're
soliciting
Community
input.
Since
we
have
a
large
apartment,
complex
and
a
store
where
many
people
are
Spanish-speaking,
did
you
do
any
Outreach
in
Spanish
and
none
was
done.
L
A
L
A
So
what
I'll
suggest
is
that
we
have
five
weeks
roughly
before
our
next
meeting
might
be
even
six
I'm,
not
sure,
but
there's
a
pretty
long
Gap.
So
we
would
want
to
get
a
draft
letter
and
we
could
circulate
it
widely,
at
least
at
least
two
weeks
before,
maybe
three
weeks
before
our
January
meeting
get
input
and
then
so
we
can
have
a
discussion
where
we're
more
focused
on
if
any
elements
are
missing
from
the
letter
that
the
majority
wants.
A
L
J
J
A
The
the
what
I
hope
is.
The
final
draft
was
sent
around
a
couple
of
days
ago,
which
had
Incorporated
feedback
from
the
previous
Draft.
When
and
and
so
there
were
some
changes
not
overwhelming,
but
in
in
some
ways,
part
of
it.
It
was
structural.
How
the
letter
was
is
laid
out,
putting
the
the
report
and
the
next
year's
work
plan,
both
in
the
document
before
the
signature,
because
I
I
seemed
as
though
some
people
never
went
past
the
signature
page.
So
they
never
really
saw
the
work
plan.
S
Something
was
taken
out
of
the
letter,
reviewing
2022
related
to
climate
change
and
our
efforts
to
review
plans
to
address
the
crisis
and
collaborate
with
office
of
climate
policy
and
coordination.
I
know
there's
something
in
the
work
plan
for
23,
but
I
really
think
you
should
have
something
reflecting
that
in
2022.
This
issue
mattered
to
us
as
well.
I.
S
We
wanted
to
give
guidance,
but
some
other
groups
that
push
for
a
climate
officer,
so
you
may
be
right
about
that.
One
other
thing
I
did
want
to
flag.
On
page
four,
the
plants
under
supported
the
draft
snrp
it
points
to
worse
and
declines
in
individual
neighborhoods.
That
seems
to
sort
of
soft
pedal.
The
amount
of
tree
loss
reviewing
the
Davey
report.
You
know
they
look
at
the
30
largest
Civic
associations
and
the
loss
between
22
2008
and
16
and
23
of
the
largest
had
significant
declines.
S
So
I
think
we
should
words
get
that
a
little
bit
to
not
make
it
sound.
Oh
there
wasn't,
there
was
a
neighborhood
here
and
there
that
lost
trees.
It
could
just
be
to
stay
declines
in
many
neighborhoods
or
most
neighborhoods.
But
I
really
feel
like
that
language.
Soft
petals
for
mysterious
concern.
Okay,.
S
S
D
F
S
D
S
A
This
well,
this
is
this
is
not
a
position
letter
here.
This
is
a
report
on
what
we
did
during
the
year.
This
is
our
self
report
card
and
so,
while
I
think
it's
fine
and
sometimes
very
appropriate
to
be
push
to
be
confrontational
because
we
know
what's
at
stake,
I,
don't
think
a
year-end
report
card
is
a
point
place
where
we
need
to
to
dig
hard
for
advocacy
points,
and
so
I
might
be
wrong.
S
As
people
ponder
it,
maybe
like
what
we
just
did
in
the
other
example,
there
was
a
middle
path,
but
apparently
ervonius
is
so
bureaucratic
and
and
flat
there
may
be
maybe
unfounded
or
un
explained
or
something,
but
apparently
erroneous.
Just
sounds
like
a
little
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
an
error.
There.
L
I
think
part
of
the
issue
at
the
time
was,
it
wasn't
well
explained
so
unexplained,
certainly
Works.
We
we
certainly
we
found
out
after
the
fact
of
our
meeting.
There
was
a
foundation
to
the
claim
which
is
still
being
debated,
whether
it
was
correctly
calculated
or
not.
Vincent
obviously
has
the
strong
views
one
way,
but
I
should
have
been
raised
by
others,
but
at
the
time
of
the
meeting
and
the
time
we
wrote
a
letter,
it
wasn't
explained
to
us
so
that
works
for
me
for
what
it's
worth.
L
A
O
Okay,
I'll
wait
again.
These
are
supposed
to
be
a
quick
summary
of
what
we
did
and
I
just
I.
Think
if
we
get
you
know,
I
I
had
recommended
that
we
cut
it
way
back
so
anyway.
I
think
just
get
it
over
with
get
it
out
the
door.
It's
you
know
it's
an
inventory
and
you
got
to
remember
who
your
audience
is
it's
a
County
Board.
This
is
what
we
did.
Relitigating
this
stuff
I
think
makes
no
sense,
but
anyway,
that's
just
my
opinion.
A
S
S
D
A
L
I
have
just
a
couple
questions
that
may
result
in
changes:
okay,
realizing
this
is
the
style
of
letter
of
inventory,
of
our
work
and
one
of
the
Chapo
paragraphs
in
terms
of
our
goals
and
promoting
tree
canopy
coverage
in
Arlington.
Do
we
insert
the
specific
of
the
40
plus
goal
or
something
like
that?
I
just
throw
that
out
to
the
group.
L
So
we
understand
their
work
better
rather
than
having
them
just
always
have
a
public
comment,
but
it
seems
like
they
provide
useful
information.
They're
engaged
in
this
issue
like
some
of
the
other
groups.
Yes,
they
have
an
advocacy
position,
but
other
groups.
There
also
have
ideas
they
want
to
achieve.
So
it's
kind
of
puzzled
why
they
were
ultimately
cut
out
of
the
list.
I.
A
I
recommended
taking
them
out
of
the
list
because
I
don't
believe
they're
similar
to
the
other
groups
that
we
have
Partnerships
with
I.
Think
atag
is
clearly
and
effectively
an
advocacy
organization
and
we
don't
partner
with
them.
They
share
information
with
us
and
that's
fine.
Other
groups
might
too,
but
we're
not
in
a
working
relationship
with
any
advocacy
group
that
I'm,
aware
of
and
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
list
them
as
someone
with
whom
we're
in
a
partnership
when
that
that
actually
doesn't
seem
to
me
to
be
correct,
I.
L
A
Asking
they're
appearing
because
they
choose
to
appear
but
we're
not
inviting
them
to
appear
all
right:
okay,
I'm,
just
saying
I,
don't
think
that
they're
the
same.
If
you
look
at
them
and
look
at
other
entities
which
would
be
listed,
there
I
think
they're
a
different
kind
of
a
of
an
organization.
They're
effective,
they're,
valuable,
but
I,
don't
see
us
having
a
working
relationship
with
them.
L
A
I'm
going
to
move
us
on
now,
because
we're
I
don't
think
that
they
belong
and
unless
I'll
be
quiet
for
a
minute
and
see
if
there's
several
other
people
who
say
Phil
you're
wrong
here,
that's
great
and
then
we'll
talk
about
it
more.
But
I
don't
want
to
take
more
time
tonight
on
this,
because
from
discussion
with
at
least
some
board
members,
I
I
believe
there
is
some
support
for
the
position
that
I
took.
So
any
comments
from
anybody.
A
L
A
We
did
not
so
they
did
not
serve.
We
did
not
have
a
liaison
with
them.
They
do
not
have
a
liaison
on
our
commission.
We
did
not
engage
regularly
with
them.
As
we
do
other
commissions.
We
engaged
regularly
with
some
individuals
who
are
members
of
atag,
but
we
do
not
engage
with
them.
Organizationally
wise,
I,
I,
don't
see
the
the
issue
I'm,
throwing
it
open
to
other
people.
I
might
be
stubborn.
L
L
Not
right
right
well,
so
you've
explained
that
there's
them
reaching
out
to
us,
not
us
reaching
out
to
them,
but
that's
why
then
I
pose
the
other
question?
Okay,
fair
enough
this
year,
that
was
the
structure
of
the
relationship.
You
want
to
call
it
that,
but
then
maybe
we
should
have
them,
make
a
more
formal
presentation
to
us.
So
we
understand
their
work
better
and
goals.
L
L
M
A
Comments
for
the
draft
letter
that
everyone
has
had
multiple
swings
at
or
has
had
opportunities
to
have
multiple
swings
and
I
understand
everyone's
busy,
and
this
last
draft
was
just
two
days
ago.
So
I
do
understand
why
people
are
using
this
opportunity
to
raise
that
raise
reasonable
questions
and
ideas
and
suggestions.
P
B
A
J
A
A
A
A
A
D
A
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
your
patience
on
this.
Next
we
have
another
letter
which
Carolyn
prepared
regarding
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan.
I.
Does
anyone
have
comments
or
questions?
It
was
a
really
a
kind
of
a
restructuring
of
an
earlier
letter
that
Carolyn
made
to
address
some
specific
changes
that
were
in
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation.
Plan
update
as
a
result
of
our
earlier
letter
did
I
describe
that
correctly.
Carolyn
yeah.
F
O
They're
looking
for
letters
before
it
goes
to
the
board,
so
it
didn't
want
to
give
an
unqualified
yes
to
it.
I
mean
if
we
do
but
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
reason
why
you
know
we're
supporting
it
is
because
they
actually
did
at
least
include
that
reference
to
the
Forester
natural
resource
plan
and
how
the
plan
should
speak
to
each
other.
So
I
just
wanted
to
restate
that
that
was
essentially
what
our
comment
was
earlier.
A
P
A
A
O
A
A
D
I'll
keep
it
very
brief.
I
want
to
thank
you,
the
forestry
and
natural
resource
Commissioners
who
are
working
on
site
plans.
It
seems,
like
you,
all,
have
a
great
system
set
up
for
that,
so
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
the
engagement
there,
we
have
reviewed
the
first
landscape
plans
and
civil
engineering
plans
for
Penn
place,
which
is
Amazon
hq2
and
it
and
provided
comments.
We
are
moving
towards
electrifying
some
of
our
equipment
in
our
tree
crew
Fleet.
D
We
have
installed
charging
charging
stations
in
our
bucket
truck,
so
there's
four
charging
stations
for
our
batteries,
which
should
be
exciting
for
our
electrification
project.
You
may
have
seen
some
trees
planted
along
Route
50
with
our
new
VDOT.
Permit
we're
excited
about
those
we
may
have
to
move
a
couple
of
them
around
because
of
a
future
project
that
we're
expecting
most
of
them
to
to
get
established
soon.
D
We
also
met
on
an
art
project
in
Shirlington
at
2700
South,
Nelson
Street.
This
is
an
art
project
that
will
represent
the
about
to
be
demolished
in
our
ear
Studios,
which
is
famous
for
the
DC
hardcore
scene
recordings
back
in
the
80s
and
90s
just
dear
to
my
heart,
but
that
will
become
a
an
open
space
commemorating
that
that
Legacy
and
also
providing
open
space
for
for
the
community
there,
including
trees.
So
we're
working
on
that
and
I
think
that's
it
there's
a
short
report
on
specimen
trees.
D
A
L
Well,
a
bit
bit
late
too
much
into
a
missing
mental
housing
study
discussion,
but
just
let
everybody
know
that.
Well,
the
planning
commission's
meeting
today
that
public
session
on
Tuesday
there
was
lots
of
good
comments.
So
please
pay
attention
to
the
readout
to
maybe
get
an
email
review
yourself,
but
just
overall
frustrating
I
feel
that
are
several
letters
about
this
in
terms
of
preserving
the
tree
canopy
in
a
fashion,
the
concern
about
trees
has
been
heard,
but
I
at
least
personally
speaking,
don't
see
them
taking
enough
steps.
Josh.
L
O
Been
watching
it-
and
there
was
a
discussion
about
a
half
an
hour
ago
and
I
was
able
to
at
least
text
a
little
bit
of
information
along
the
way
because
they
were
a
little
bit
off
track
and
Vincent
for
your
information.
They
were
not
aware
of
the
fact
that
there
are.
The
two
lists
was
not
aware
of
both
the
shade
tree
list,
as
well
as
the
small
ornamental
list.
So
anyway
at
least
we
got
that
into
the
record
and
we'll
see
whether
there's
a
motion
tonight
or
not,
but
they're
they're
going
probably
till
about
11..
L
L
Thanks
for
that,
so
both
of
us
have
raised
the
point
of
there's
a
way
to
put
more
trees
on
the
Lots.
If
you
will
so,
please
take
steps
to
do
that
to
aim
for
a
higher
tree,
canopy
coverage.
So
let's
see
what
happens,
and
maybe
we
would
group
in
January
on
it.
Then,
since
we
may
have
new
information,
your
thoughts
Phil
on
how.
A
To
replace
yeah
and
I
was
I'm
glad
you
spoke
up.
This
was
the
one
thing
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
with
you
and
Carolyn
and
and
Steve
who've
been
observing
or
and
participating
as
to
how
we
should
weigh
in
and
when
I
don't
know,
if
there's
any
urgency
for
us
to
do
something
before
our
January
meeting
or
not,
but
we
could
good
discuss
a
letter
quicker.
A
L
O
Everything
we've
already
said,
so
you
know
it's
not
like
we'd,
be
voting
on
anything
new.
What
we'd
be
pushing
is
the
one
shade
tree
plus
the
one
ornamental
as
part
of
the
RTA
which
I
you
know
it
sounds
like
may
get
in
this
Planning
Commission
report.
So
we
could
support
that,
and
you
know
we
could
turn
our
light
around
pretty
quickly
on
that.
So
the
fact
that
we've
already
got
the
content
there
I
think
if
you
know,
depending
upon
what
you
and
Vincent
think
if
we
want
to,
but.
O
A
Could
we
decide
tonight
to
for
us
for
the
the
team
that's
been
working
on
this
Carolyn,
leading
it
to
prepare
a
letter
that
includes,
as
appropriate,
the
you
know,
increasing
the
tree
canopy
and
tree
plantings
by
using
a
second
understory
trees
or
whatever
the
right
language
is,
and
also
what
you
were
just
saying
just
now.
So
we
have
we're
on
record
among
ourselves,
as
approving
a
letter
that
can
include
can
include
as
appropriate.
These
different
elements.
A
Not
the
last
letters
I
would
add
that
okay,
so
yes,
and
we
kind
of-
have
talked
about
that
and
we've
seen
presentations
on
the
setback
issue.
So
if
there's
any
I'm
trying
I
think
I'm
I'm.
Looking
for
a
broad
motion
to
authorize
a
letter
to
cover
the
the
the
the
material
information
that
we've
already
come
up
been
on
record
for,
as
well
as
the
information,
our
recommendations
on
setback.
L
O
L
Please
don't
bring
up
a
lot
of
coverage;
I
didn't
mean
it
in
that
fashion.
It's
more
this
generic
for
us
to
try
to
increase
green
space
on
a
lot.
That
is
good.
We
lay
down
some
or
repeat
some
points
now
because
we
may
be
reapproaching
them
in
more
urgent
fashion
in
the
coming
months,
depending
how
the
mini
missile
housing
study
works
out.
So
thanks
for
including
that,
okay,
sorry,
that
was
my
intervention.
That's.
A
J
A
Okay,
all
opposed
and
all
abstaining.
Okay,
it's
unanimous!
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
bringing
it
up
and
and
working
through
it
a
workable
solution
so
that
at
least
we're
poised
to
act
when
we
know
what
we're
acting
on,
because
that
we
hate
to
lose
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
and
hopefully
bring
rationality
to
the
process,
anything
else
to
be
discussed
tonight.
D
Q
Vincent
on
the
staff
report,
you
had
a
section
on
the
Inn
in
Roslyn
and
as
I
understand
what
you
said.
They
are
not
meeting
their
treat
canopy
requirements.
They
they
came
in
and
said.
Well,
we
we
can't,
because
we
we
don't.
We
have
physical
constraints,
but
the
question
I
had.
Is
that
apparently
doesn't
excuse
them
for
meeting
their
their
tree?
Canopy
requirements
right
to
treat
therapy
requirements
must
be
set
by
the
sector
plan.
Is
that
the
way
it
worked.
D
A
A
I
do
feel
honored
to
be
the
chair
of
this
commission,
which
is
by
far
the
coolest
best
Commission
in
Arlington
and
and
so
thank
you.
I
I
also
want
to
wish
you
all
a
wonderful
holiday
season,
I
hope
you're
able
to
get
out
and
enjoy
our
Woods,
our
the
Meadowlands
that
we
have,
which
are
just
in
a
few
spots,
our
nature
and,
and
hopefully,
when
we
talk
a
year
from
now,
we'll
have
a
little
bit
more
of
the
natural
areas
to
enjoy.