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B
Thanks
Alex,
oh
welcome
everyone
to
the
August
31st
Housing
Commission
legislative
priority
subcommittee
virtual
meeting.
We
are
authorized
to
hold
this
virtual
meeting
based
on
the
electronic
meetings
policy
that
was
adopted
by
this
commission
at
the
September
2022
meeting
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
cover
a
few
specifics
to
orient
everyone
to
our
virtual
environment.
B
Today's
meeting
is
available
to
stream
from
the
County
website.
Audio
of
today's
meeting
is
available
via
phone
if
Commissioners,
presenters
or
speakers
lose
internet
connectivity.
During
today's
meeting,
please
reconnect
with
us
by
phone
for
those
joining
us
through
Microsoft
teams.
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you
are
called
upon.
B
Please
turn
off
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference.
When
called
upon
to
speak.
You
must
unmute
Yourself
by
clicking
on
the
microphone
icon
that
is
located
on
your
meeting
command
bar.
The
moderator
does
not
have
the
ability
to
unmute
you.
If
you
are
dialing
in
by
phone
press
star
six
to
unmute,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
public
comment
for
those
who
signed
up
in
advance.
Members
of
the
public
are
encouraged
to
provide
written
comments
by
visiting
the
housing
commission
website.
B
The
meeting
jacket
chat
is
active
for
presenters
or
Commissioners
who
need
technical
assistance.
Only
the
meeting
chat
should
not
be
used
for
discussion.
Public
comment,
questions
or
requests
for
more
information.
Lastly,
this
is
a
public
forum.
Today's
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
County
website.
A
Yes,
first
up,
we
are
the
only
speaker
tonight
we
have
Marian
Flores.
So
whenever
you're
ready,
I
will
start
the
timer
on
the
screen.
C
C
Was
having
trouble
with
my
with
my
phone,
but
anyhow?
Yes,
my
name
is
Marion
Flores
and
I
did
want
to
give
public
comment.
C
C
That
we're
allowed
to
give
our
public
comment.
So,
yes,
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
ask
the
Arlington
County
Housing
Commission,
to
support
the
disability
Community
to
seek
an
increase
in
the
percentage
of
newly
constructed
multi-family
apartment
and
condo
units
that
Builders
are
required
to
provide
in
all
new
construction
projects.
C
So
this
is
something
that
can
be
done
by
requesting
the
local
officials
to
to
put
in
the
request
that
the
increase
there.
They
increase
the
requirement
of
type
A
units
from
two
percent
of
every
new
multi-family
project
to
ten
percent
of
the
units
projects,
and
this
would
be
in
order
to
to
curb
the
amount
of
of
people
that
are
consequently
institutional
lives
because
they
can't
find
a
place
to
live
in.
That
is
appropriate
that
works
with
their
disability
or
when
they
are
seniors.
C
Things
such
as
in
putting
in
grab
bars
in
the
house
and
widening
doors
and
making
bathrooms
accessible.
How
do
you
say,
lower
Encounters
in
the
kitchen
and
the
bathroom
and
having
cutouts
so
that
the
person
in
the
wheelchair
can
get
to
the
kitchen
and
the
bathroom
sink
and
can
get
to
the
cooking
areas?
And
so
on?
C
It
is
urgent
that
these
percentage
should
be
brought
up
from
two
percent
to
ten
percent,
because
data
from
the
U.S
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development,
better
known
as
HUD,
less
than
one
percent
of
all
housing,
meets
the
levels
of
accessibility,
and
this
comes
from
a
study
done
in
2011
that
had
conducted
and
includes
units
with
all
levels
of
accessibility,
for
example
those
that
meet
the
Fair
Housing
Act
accessibility
standards,
as
well
as
those
that
meet
had
Section
504
requirements
that
are
for
typing
for
zero
threshold
showers.
C
C
These
are,
how
do
you
say,
like
I,
was
saying
necessary
to
avoid
you
know
people
from
not
being
able
to
find
appropriate
housing
and
have
to
have
institutionalization,
be
the
only
thing,
and
also
it
has
been
learned
that
in
the
past,
40,
30
or
40
years,
that
the
concept
that
accessible
housing
should
be
available
to
all
who
need
it.
C
As
a
matter
of
national
policy,
that
is,
the
number
of
newly
constructed
fully
accessible
housing
units
must
be
sufficiently
high
to
overcome
years
of
neglect
and
to
catch
up
with
current
and
future
demand,
so
that
people
are
not
institutionalized
to
avoid
the
institutionalization
of
people
with
disabilities
and
Senior
adults
yeah.
That
would
be
important.
Many
of
the
disability
communities
Statewide
have
thought
this
opportunity
to
pursue
Statewide
campaign
to
do
this
and
it
is
really
required.
So
it's
it's
really
important
that
this
happened,
please
yeah
and
and
yeah.
C
B
So
I
believe
that's
it
for
our
public
comments,
as
Alex
mentioned
so
I
think
we
would
proceed
with
the
rest
of
the
meeting
and
so
thanks
to
Kellen
for
letting
us
host
an
August
meeting,
and
thanks
to
our
fellow,
my
fellow
Commissioners
and
the
public
for
joining,
we
discussed
on
our
last
meeting,
taking
some
time
to
dive
deeper
into
the
draft
legislative
priorities
that
Kellen
put
together.
B
If
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
everyone,
but
I
think
we're
really
excited
about
what
Kellen
put
together,
and
he
mentioned
that
you
know
with
the
timing.
There
could
be
some
room
for
us
to
kind
of
just
expand
upon
them,
but
keeping
in
mind
that
and
Kellen.
Maybe
keep
me
honest
here
well
and
throughout
the
whole
meeting
expanding
on
them,
but
also
keeping
in
mind
that
the
County
Board
will,
if
we're
lucky,
take
one
of
our
priorities
and
run
with
it
so
yeah.
B
We
need
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
take
tonight
and
any
opportunities
online
offline
to
kind
of
Flesh.
This
out
flush.
This
out
is
that
right,
Kellen.
B
Okay,
so
no,
we
didn't
really
do
any
pre-work
here.
So
I'm
not
sure.
If
we
kind
of
want
to
use
this
as
like
an
opportunity
to
brainstorm
some
tonight
and
then
I
know,
Kellen
often
gives
us
opportunities
to
edit
documents
offline
so
and
like
provide
comments,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
makes
sense
to
kind
of
brainstorm
and
figure
out
what
pieces
folks
want
to
kind
of
edit
or
what
kind
of
makes
sense
for
doing
tonight.
Since
a
lot
of
the
next
steps
might
involve
like
actually
editing
the
document.
D
All
right,
no
I
was
just
gonna,
say
Nikki,
that
I
think
keeping
tonight's
meeting
pretty
informal
and
just
as
you
said,
like
brainstorming
having
a
conversation
with
people
about
what
they
think
or
what
other
items
they
might
want
to
see.
I
know
for
one
I
really
appreciated:
Marion's
comment
about
the
increasing
the
requirements
for
accessible
units
and
that's
something
that
has
come
up
in
our
commission
meetings.
D
A
lot
so
I
I
definitely
think
we
should
consider
adding
that
to
the
final
list
that
goes
to
the
the
County
Board
and
with
that
one
in
particular,
I.
Don't
know
that
I'm
necessarily
comfortable
right
now
saying
10,
but
at
least
saying
increasing
the
percentage
beyond
what
it
is
today.
D
I'm
I'd
be
very
comfortable
with
that,
but
I
don't
know
that
I
have
enough
information
to
to
say
a
specific
percentage
that
I
think
it
should
be,
but
yeah,
that's
one
that
I
think
we
should
definitely
consider
tonight
as
well,
but
we
have
been
asked
by
the
County
Board
to
provide
them
with
our
legislative
priorities
by
the
end
of
September.
So,
as
you
said,
we
can
have
our
this
discussion
tonight
and
then
continue
to
work
on
the
the
document
and
the
require
or
the
priorities
offline.
Until
our
meeting
on.
D
Let's
see
it's
coming
up
so
on
the
14th
of
September
and
then
we
would
need
to
approve
by
the
14th
what
those
are.
So
we
can
get
them
to
the
board
by
the
end
of
the
month.
B
God
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
others,
but,
like
you
said,
I
I
feel
like
the
the
number
of
ADA
accessible
units
has
come
up
a
lot
and
we
often
talk
about
that
and
I
I
think
it
was
Michael
or
maybe
Karen,
who
mentioned
like
kind
of
coming
up
with
a
list
of
like
we.
During
our
meetings,
we
tend
to
kind
of
hit
on
like
a
couple
of
the
same
points
when
we
we
don't
see
them
present
in
in
some
of
the
housing
projects.
B
I'm,
not
sure,
if,
like
adding
all
of
those
to
this
makes
sense
and
I
think
we
also
talked
about
just
coming
up
with
a
list
that
this
is
kind
of
separate,
but
like
a
checklist
of
items,
they
want
to
ask
for
each
housing
project,
so
maybe
coming
up
with
that
checklist
and
incorporating
it
into
our
priorities
might
make
sense.
Yes,
sorry
Kellen.
D
Oh
no,
no,
it's
treat
me
just
like
you
would
any
other
member
of
the
commission
tonight,
but,
and
you
were
in
charge.
The
meeting
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
add
too
that
I
did
reach
out
to
Matty
fronti.
Our
county
boardly
is
on
about
the
item
that
Mike
hamminger
had
raised,
and
that
was
the
affordable
housing
ordinance
and
then
the
the
state
law
that
allows
Arlington
County
to
operate
its
affordable
housing
program
and
Matt
recommended
that
we
do
not
include
that
in
this
legislative
priority.
D
Recommendation
that
the
the
board's
not
ready
to
consider
that
at
this
point.
But
he
acknowledged
that
it
was
important
to
to
us
as
well
as
the
board,
to
look
into
that
for
the
future,
and
he
basically
asked
me
to
Circle
back
after
November
to
see
if
it
would
make
sense
to
start
working
with
staff
and
with
the
county
to
begin
looking
at
exactly
what
that
recommendation
would
be
to
change
the
affordable
housing
ordinance
locally
and
the
the
law
at
the
state
level.
That
gives
the
county
the
authority
to.
D
You
know
for
bonus
density
and
all
the
other
fun
things
that
we've
heard
about
and
are
going
to
hear
more
about
at
our
September
meeting.
So
I
just
want
to
provide
that
context
for
folks.
B
That's
helpful,
thank
you
and
hopefully
they'll
be
ready
soon.
E
Good
evening,
I
was
just
thinking
as
I
was
looking
at
this
list.
If
there's
a
way
to
make
it
like
in
different
sections
like
because
a
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
tenants,
which
is
great,
but
instead
of
having
like
a
laundry
list
and
maybe
have
like
sections
of
like
different
topics.
B
Yeah
and
that
might
help
too,
for
if
we're
gonna
do
a
majority
of
this
offline
kind
of
saying,
if
folks
have
like
a
particular
interest
in
something
say,
I'll
take
the
you
know,
so-and-so
take
this
section
Etc.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
Okay,
I
feel,
like
I've,
been
doing
a
lot
of
talking
and
I
know.
Kellen
said
I'm
in
charge,
but
I
actually
didn't
know.
I
was
sharing
this
until
I
was
told,
so
maybe
we
can
make
it
a
little
more
like
open,
style
and
kind
of
maybe
determine
like
what
we
want
to
do
tonight.
B
What
do
we
want
to
accomplish
tonight
and
then
what
we
need
to
do
offline,
so
I,
don't
know
if
it
if
folks
wanna,
say
kind
of
like
an
area
they're
interested
in
and
then
we
can
kind
of
start
to
divide
it
into
sections
and
folks
can
kind
of
take
a
section
and
flush
it
out
or
what
makes
sense.
B
I
mean
my
what
I
was
thinking
is
that
probably
a
lot
of
the
work
would
happen
offline
because
it
involves
I,
don't
need
a
document
which
we
can't
all
really
do
at
this
time,
but
not
sure
if
others
have
thoughts
too
about
what
makes
the
most
sense
for
how
to
kind
of
start.
Adding
to
this.
D
F
D
A
free-flowing
conversation-
and
you
have
less
of
that,
like
speaking
into
the
void
experience
that
is,
is
not
super
fun
when
you're
chairing
the
meeting.
But
this
way
you'll
you'll
get
some
facial
feedback
and
and
things
from
people,
as
you
say
things
or
put
out
questions
and
get
a
sense
of
how
people
are
feeling,
but
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
talking
through
it.
D
Seeing
what
people
think
I
mean
I
have
some
ideas
about
if
we're
to
narrow
this
down,
what
I
think
should
be
the
top
priorities
versus
other
things,
but
I'm
also
interested
to
see
if
members
of
the
subcommittee
have
recommendations
on
things
that
are
on
this
list,
that
should
be
considered.
G
E
My
my
other
thought
is
I
mean
maybe
we
vote
on
this
at
the
next
Housing
Commission
like
what
like
you
like,
Kellen
just
mentioned
like
what
is
the
number
one?
What
is
the
number
two
concern?
Number
three,
because
I
know
none
I,
don't
I
know
not
all
not
all
this
can
be
done,
but
I
I
also
know
that.
Maybe,
if
we
put,
we
highlight
certain
things,
we
can
put
a
bigger
emphasis
on
it
and
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
what
you
know.
E
What
is
the
most
important
priority,
because
I
haven't
really
thought
about
it
too
much.
But
it's
just
my
thought
as
well.
B
Yeah
I
think
that
makes
sense,
and
we
could
even
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
make
it
too
complicated.
But
if
we're
going
to
divide
into
sections,
we
could
even
have
like
a
top
priority
for
each
section
and
then
maybe
like
an
overall
document,
ranking
I'm,
not
sure
I,
know
Kellen
and
many
of
the
other
Commissioners
are
much
more
experienced
than
I
am
I'm,
not
sure.
D
And
I
think
I
talked
about
this
during
the
the
July
meeting,
but
generally
I
mean
the
county.
Their
legislative
priorities
tend
to
be
pretty
high
level
that
they
produce
and
they
have
categories
so
they'll
have
like
a
housing
category
and
then
they'll
have
any
recommendations
related
to
housing
and
some
of
those
are
kind
of
set
for
the
like
they'll
say.
Basically,
we
don't
want
the
state
to
interfere
with
our
zoning
Powers.
D
D
Number
three
on
here
has
been
in
I
think
the
last
two
legislative
priorities
that
the
county
has
put
forward
because
of
our
advocacy
and
advocacy
of
other
groups,
so
I
think
there's
a
really
good
chance
that
that
will
stay
on
the
legislative
priority
list,
because
they've
already
been
working
towards
that,
or
at
least
you
know,
communicating
that
that's
important
to
the
county,
but
I
think
when
it
comes
to
the
other
areas.
D
It's
up
to
us.
You
know
how
many
we
want
to
present
if
we
want
to
group
them
and
and
say
we
really
care
about
better
accessibility
for
units.
D
We
have
two
legislative
priorities
that
fall
under
that
and
then
kind
of
leave
it
up
to
the
county
staff
and
board
to
figure
out
which
of
those
do
they
want
to
move
forward
with,
or
do
they
just
want
to
make
a
blanket
statement
that,
like
we
should
do
more
for
the
disabled
Community
when
it
comes
to
housing,
because
it
could
also
result
in
something
like
that
which
I
don't
know
how
helpful
that
is
to
have
super
broad
statements,
but
yeah.
That's
another
possibility
as
well.
B
Okay,
yeah,
that's
helpful,
yeah
I,
don't
know
like
broad
statements,
but
something
that
doesn't
like
something
I
would
shy
away
from.
But
if
that's
kind
of
like
the
you
know
what
they're
used
to
looking
at
and
what
they
would
rather
work
with,
because
then
they
can
add
detail.
Maybe
that
makes
more
sense
in
Flushing
this
out.
But
it
sounds
like
I
don't
know.
Maybe
the
first
decision
we
should
make
is
whether
we
need
to
add
to
the
document
or
not
versus
just
ranking
and
organizing
what
we
had
or
already
have.
B
F
Hi
could
could
I.
There
was
something
that
I
I
did
want
to
propose
and
I'm,
not
sure
whether
it's
been
on
here
at
this
in
the
in
the
same
form
so
that
I'm
about
to
annunciate
the
general
assembly.
Well,
the
state
of
Virginia,
the
State
Building
Code,
is
with
regard
to
the
built
environment.
Is
the
the
only
enforceable
or
or
at
least
code
officials,
say
it's
the
only
enforceable
code?
So
so
technically
they
they
say
they
don't
enforce
the
Fair
Housing
Act
accessibility
standards
nor
the
Ada
Etc.
So.
F
That
is
a
problem,
and
you
know
we
are
concerned
about
the
number
of
units
that
that
units
and
and
other
accessibility
features
that
go
on
addressed
until
finally,
somebody
finds
them
and
if
it's
after
two
years,
then
a
court
case,
known
as
the
most
key
case
prevents
well
said
that
that
that
you
can't
file
a
fair
housing
act,
violation
after
two
years
from
the
time
that
the
first
pyramid
of
occupancy
is
is
approved,
so
that
that
is
a
problem,
but
it
keeps
accessible
the
number
of
accessible
units
down
and-
and
they
aren't
increasing
and
Nationwide
HUD
says
only
about
one
percent,
but
actually
less
than
one
percent
of
all
new
units
are
of
of
all
units.
F
Excuse
me
are,
are
fully
accessible,
otherwise
known
as
type
A.
So
what
a
number
of
disability
advocacy
groups
would
like
to
see
is
the
building
code
be
amended,
and-
and
this
comes
from
the
general
assembly,
if
it
comes
from
the
general
assembly,
it
will
be
done.
The
building
code
amend
amended
to
increase.
C
F
So
I
I'd
like
to
propose
that
the
Housing
Commission
support
the
idea
of
of
of
asking
the
our
legislators
to
amend
the
building
code
to
increase
the
percentage
again,
it's
new
construction
only
to
10
percent.
If
we
had
had
this
in
place
when
the
accessibility
standard
started
being
put
into
our
State
Building
Code
20,
basically
20
years
ago,
we'd
have
a
good
number
of
of
fully
accessible
units.
F
But
one
of
the
wonderful
tools
that
we're
using
here
is
when
developers
are
producing
units
and
projects
with
the
nine
percent
competitive
tax
credits,
but
but
it's
pretty
limited
and-
and
it's
also
it
also
limits
the
stock,
because
you
know
Arlington
may
be
using
them.
Alexandria
may
be
using
them,
Fairfax,
maybe
not
so
much
and
downstate
they
may
not
be
so.
It
would
fix
a
problem
that
is
a
Statewide
problem,
so
that
people
can
move
around,
take
advantage
of
jobs
and
and
places
to
live
and
is
really
needed.
F
Now
because
I
can
say
firsthand
seniors
once
once
you
start
getting
physical
disabilities
as
as
you
age,
the
the
best
tool
to
keep
you
in
your
home
is
is,
is
to
have
a
chance
to
get
are
fully
accessible
unit.
So
that's
what
I
wanted
to
propose.
B
Thank
you,
Doris
yeah,
I
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
Kellen,
but
I
think
that
is
what
you
are
speaking
to
at
the
start
of
the
the
tall
rate,
okay,
yeah,
Doris
and
I'm-
not
sure
you
were
on,
but
that's
definitely
something
I
think
we
want
to
add
to
this
list
so
appreciate
your
comments.
I
think
Helen
was
saying
that
unfortunately,
10
percent
might
not
be
realistic
at
this
time,
but
definitely
raising
that
percentage
is
something
that
it
sounds
like
is
is
we
will
add,
for
sure.
F
I
know
that
the
Alexandria
Commission
on
persons
with
disabilities
is
working
on
this
issue
and
is
ready.
You
know
to
they're
right
now,
giving
their
recommendations
to
to
the
city,
council
and
others
in
the
city
who
could
influence
this,
and
there
has
been
actually
the
only
one
bill
that
that
actually
showed
up
in
the
last
10
years
of
the
general
assembly
was
one
that
was
proposed
by
former
Senator
Linda,
T,
poor
and
now
she's
retired,
but
but
the
bill
did
not
make
it
through
the
first
day.
F
B
Okay,
so
yeah.
Definitely
adding
a
minimum
requirement
for
our
type
a
unit
we
want
to
add
I
tried
to
load
the
national
Center
for
healthy
housing.
They
have
like
a
resource
Library,
but
neither
the
state
and
local
section
or
the
national
section
is
loading,
so
I
guess
I
could
reach
out
to
them
to
see
what
they
have.
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
to
see
how
ours
aligns
with
that,
but
yeah.
So,
as
commissioner
Surfers
pointed
out,
a
lot
of
what
we
have
here
is
tenant
focused.
H
To
think,
if
you
have
a
question
for
you,
I
guess
for
the
rest
of
the
team
as
well.
Sorry
I'm
on
my
phone,
so
I
couldn't
get
on
my
camera.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
thinking
about
is
like
the
language
barrier,
and
so
you
know
that
some
people
may
have
living
in
in
these
units,
and
you
know,
for
example,
like
we're
providing
a
list
of
policies
or
things
that
we
could.
You
know
advocate
for,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
H
You
know
as
we're
advocating
for
these
and
if
at
some
point
they
are
implemented
that,
like
language,
is
taken
into
consideration.
So,
for
example,
like
I
believe,
if
you
scroll
up
a
little
bit,
there's
one
point
about
like
anti-retaliation
protections
for
tenants.
H
You
know
like
people
should
know
what
that
is,
and
that's
something
that
I
definitely
would
want
to
put
as
like
a
priority,
because
a
lot
of
people
sometimes
are
too
scared
to
speak
up
or
report.
Something
that's
going
on
and
I
think
it
would
be
just
like,
along
from,
like
anti-retaliation
being
able
to
provide
information
in
the
language
of
the
tenant.
H
So
that
they
feel
a
little
bit
more
secure
in
speaking
up
and
voicing
so
I
think
like
that
number
four
to
me
seems
something
that
we
could
definitely
advocate
for
because
it's
like
you
know,
tenants
have
rights
and
if
we
can
advocate
for
anti-retaliation
protections,
then,
along
with
the
language
that
would
be
I,
don't
know
something
to
to
propose
and
see.
If
they're
willing
to
you
know,
support.
B
Yeah
I
think
that
makes
sense
and
just
to
make
sure
I
for
my
own
knowledge
and
understanding
right
so
you're
saying
that,
along
with
some
of
these,
like
tenant,
focused
priorities,
making
sure
that
there's
a
language
component
and
also
like
an
education
component,
so
that
you
know
we
aren't
saying
like
oh
tenants
have
rights,
but
but
they're
actually
aware
of
those
rights
yeah
exactly
yeah.
That
makes
sense
for
sure
Kellen.
D
Oh
actually
I
think
Karen
was
first
yeah.
E
Anyways
I
was
just
thinking,
I.
Think
it's
important
and
I
think
a
lot
of
these
documents
are
in
Spanish,
but
we
have
to
remember
that
in
these
documents
have
to
be
in
English
first
and
a
lot
of
documents
and
I'm,
not
a
lawyer
by
the
way,
are
not
enforceable
unless
they're
in
English,
so
where,
where
we
can
do
out,
you
can
do
Outreach
and
things
like
that.
The
main
components
of
this
has
to
be
in
English.
D
I
just
want
to
provide
some
contact
on
some
of
these
and
and
I
think
I
went
over
this
a
little
bit
during
our
meeting
in
July,
but
since
these
most
of
these
are
not
new,
so
number
three
through
what
is
it?
Seven
yeah,
three
through
seven
I
believe
comes
from
the
sorry,
the
Serrano
report
that
we
had
approved
last
year
as
recommendations
for
the
state,
as
I
think
I
said
during
the
meeting
we
didn't
do
legislative
priorities
last
year.
Well,
this.
D
Think
we
actually
did
legislative
parties
last
year
as
a
commission,
so
we
never
like
formally
recommended
to
the
board
as
part
of
our
legislative
priorities
that
they
include
these.
So
that's
where
those
are
coming
from
so
they're.
D
Our
report,
we
already
approved
them
as
things
that
we'd
like
to
see
happen,
but
we
just
didn't
include
it
as
part
of
the
legislative
priority
like
request
process,
but
a
lot
of
those
came
from
existing
legislation
that
had
been
you
know
already
proposed.
So
the
anti-retaliation
enhancement
of
protections
that
was
based
off
a
bill
that
delegate
Lopez
had
brought
I
think
last
session
that
died
in
the
house
of
delegates
and
I.
Think
subcommittee
I,
don't
know
that
it
even
got
out
of
subcommittee,
and
that
was
essentially
around.
D
There
are
certain
actions
right
now
that
a
landlord
can
take.
That
could
be
retaliation,
but
it's
kind
of
legal
for
them
to
do
it.
So
they
can
refuse
to
renew
your
lease
or
they
could
substantially
increase
your
rent.
But
unless
you
can
prove
that
their
intent
is
retali
retaliatory,
there's
all
that
you
can
do
so.
His
legislation
was
aimed
at
changing
it
so
that
the
landlord
would
have
to
prove
that
the
intent
is
not
retaliatory
if
they
take
certain
actions
within
a
certain
period
of
time.
D
In
it
was
not
associated
with
the
legally
protected
action
that
the
the
tenant
took
so
basically,
now
the
burden
of
proof
is
tenants
and
it's
pretty
much
impossible
for
them
to
improve,
to
prove
that
the
landlord
intended
to
retaliate
against
them.
F
D
D
So
unless
you
can
find
documents
where
they
say
like
you
know,
I'm
mad
at
this
tenant
because
they
did
X
and
that's
why
I'm
doing
this,
which
most
landlords
are
not
dumb
enough
to
do
that,
it's
almost
impossible
to
prove
so
I
thought
it
was
a
really
good
bill
that
he
put
forward
I'd
love
to
see
the
County
Board
support
that
and
and
put
their
weight
behind,
trying
to
get
other
legislators
to
adopt
that,
and
that's
that's
kind
of
where
that
came
from
the
compensation
for
tenants
whose
units
have
been
condemned.
D
D
So,
even
though
the
landlord
is
at
fault-
and
it
was
they're
the
ones
who
did
not
follow
the
law,
the
law
is
like
well
sucks
to
be
you
tenant.
You
have
to
go,
find
some
someplace
else
to
live.
You
don't
get
any
of
your
rent
back
and
there's
no
compensation.
The
landlord
has
to
provide
to
you,
even
though
your
life
has
now
been
uprooted,
and
you
have
to
find
a
new
place
to
live
like
immediately.
D
So
this
says
the
landlord
should
have
to
compensate
tenants
for
breaking
the
law
if
it
results
in
the
eviction
of
the
tenant,
through
no
fault
of
their
own.
So
again
to
me
seems
like
common
sense.
It
died
in
the
general
assembly
did
not
go
anywhere
because
a
lot
of
the
the
10
or
Sorry
landlord
rights
groups
did
not
feel
that
they
should
have
any
responsibility
to
the
tenant,
even
if
they
break
the
law.
D
So
again,
that's
something
that
I
would
love
to
see
the
county
come
out
and
support
and
get
behind
expanding
the
list
of
Provisions
in
the
uniform
Statewide
building
code,
around
growth
of
mold
only
leaks
or
issues,
air
conditioning
heating.
Etc
again,
this
came
from
a
bill
that
delegate
Lopez
had
put
forward
again.
It
died
in
the
house
and.
D
Are
not
popular
among
certain
legislators.
It
means
that
a
particular
party
in
the
general
assembly
is
not
interested
in
advancing
any
of
these,
and
that
could
change
in
November.
So
there's
there
is
some
hope
that
some
of
these
could
pass
under
different
circumstances.
D
So
that's
where
that
one
came
from,
and
that
was
around
the
fact
that
when
the
Serrano
issues
popped
up-
and
we
saw
all
these
like
mold
complaints-
and
you
saw
pictures
of
people
like
all
their
personal
property
and
things
just
covered
in
mold
because
of
humidity
problems
and
bad
ventilation
in
the
units.
D
The
only
thing
they
could
do
was
Sue
themselves
like
Sue
the
landlord
themselves
they
couldn't.
There
was
nothing
that
Arlington
County
could
do
to
help
them
or
demand
that
the
property
owner
take
action,
so
this
would
add
mold
and
these
other
issues
to
the
building
code,
as
opposed
to
the
landlord
tenant,
I'm
I'm,
forgetting
the
the
rest
of
the
name
of
the
law,
but
the
the
law
that
governs
landlord
tenant
interactions
and
then
the
general
just
Accords
receivership
one.
D
So
this
one
was
actually
proposed
by
the
Virginia
Poverty
Law
Center,
and
it
was
another
one
that
I
really
liked,
because
you
I
haven't
heard
about
this
as
much
in
Arlington,
but
I've
heard
about
it
in
Alexandria
and
other
places,
but
basically
tenants
who
do
have
the
the
ability
to
take
their
landlords
or
property
managers
to
court
for
failing
to
address
maintenance,
health
and
safety
issues
in
the
building.
D
The
court
basically
just
says:
okay,
landlord
you've
broke
the
law,
you
have
to
fix
these
things
and
they
give
them
so
many
days
to
fix
it
and
if
they
don't,
the
tenant
has
to
sue
them
again
and
bring
them
back
to
court
and
demand
that
they
fix
it.
And
you
know
there
may
be
like
a
fine
or
like
a
small
penalty,
but
it's
nothing
significant.
A
D
You
have
some
serial
landlords
who
just
never
make
any
of
the
changes
and
they
don't
care
how
many
court
orders
they
get
and
there's
not
a
whole
lot.
The
court
can
do
other
than
just
like.
You
know
we're
going
to
keep
adding
this
fine,
so
this
proposal
is
basically
the
court
can
say
you
had
so
many
so
much
time
to
make
this
repair.
D
It's
legally
obligated
that
you
do
that,
and
because
you
have
not
now,
the
court
is
going
to
mandate
that
the
repair
happens,
they're
going
to
execute
the
repair
on
behalf
of
the
the
landlord
and
then
essentially
build
the
landlord
for
the
repair.
So
it's
making
sure
that
the
repair
happens.
The
tenant
is
living
in
better
conditions.
D
Instead
of
this
cycle
of
you
know,
the
court
tells
the
landlord
to
do
it.
The
landlord
doesn't
do
it.
The
tenant
has
to
sue
the
landlord
again
and
it
just
repeats
and
nothing
changes
and
life
doesn't
improve
for
the
tenant.
D
So
that's
where
that
one
came
from
and
I
don't
know
that
that
actually
was
proposed
as
a
bill
in
the
general
assembly,
but
again
I.
Think
it's
a
great
idea
and
would
solve
these
kind
of
Serial
bad
landlords
who
don't
care
what
the
courts
say
and
don't
care
how
bad
conditions
get
for
their
tenants.
B
E
Thank
you
that
is
really
helpful
to
understand
the
history
of
this.
My
other
thought
is
when
you,
when
you
put
these
documents
together
and
you
put
the
wording
together
like
when
I
read
number
four
I
had
no
idea
that
the
landlord
would
be
the
one
that
would
be
penalized
or
whatever
I.
It
wasn't
clear
to
me
so
I
think
the
wording
is
important
and
maybe
reaching
out
maybe
to
delegate
Lopez
to
find
out
like.
E
F
D
Right
I
mean
that's,
certainly
that
could
be
a
solution.
I
think
the
challenge
that
the
vplc
was
trying
to
solve
is
when
landlords
would
rather
pay
the
penalty
than
actually
fix
the
unit
and
I
mean
in
theory.
You
can
make
it
so
bad
that
you
know
no
one,
no
one's
willing
to
do
that,
but
I.
D
One
is
more
palatable
to
the
landlord
Community
in
the
apartment.
Associations.
I
mean
I,
think
they
hate
both
of
these
ideas,
but
I,
don't
know
which
one
would
be
more
hated.
I
think
the
receivership
is
more
focused
on
like
the
tenant
and
like
regardless
of
what
happens
to
the
landlord
and
and
like
penalizing.
D
For
breaking
the
law,
what
we
need
to
focus
on
is
making
sure
that
tenants
have
a
habitable
environment
and
that
the
repairs
are
made,
and
then
you
know
we'll
we'll
just
build
a
landlord
later.
What's
important,
is
it
just
gets
done?
Yeah.
F
Putting
them
together
but
but
but
maybe
somebody
has
figured
out
that
we
we
couldn't
get
it
through
the
generals.
Simply
if
we
added
the
higher
penalties,
yeah.
D
D
Governor
vetoed
it
so
they're
all
Republicans
oppose
them
all,
but
we
have
an
election
in
November
and
the
board
does
take
into
account
when
they
do
their
legislative
priorities.
D
D
Legitimate
aspects
to
like
okay:
well,
let's,
let's
work
with
not
necessarily
like
political
opponents,
but
like
special
interest
groups
that
may
be
opposed
to
to
find
something,
that's
more
palatable
or
at
least
find
something
like
number
three.
D
D
Was
giving
localities
the
right
to
enforce
anything
in
the
landlord
tenant,
Relations
Act
and
they
scaled
it
back
to
only
health
and
safety
issues,
because
they
didn't
want
a
broader
Authority
for
counties
to
be
able
to
Sue
or
cities.
D
So
that's
an
example
of
where
the
the
bill
sponsors
and
The
Advocates
were
able
to
work
with
kind
of
the
other
side
to
figure
out.
Okay,
what's
what's
a
compromise
you
can
live
with,
so
you
at
least
won't
oppose
this
and
ultimately
ended
up
passing
the
house
and
the
Senate.
D
Because
of
that,
and
only
to
be
vetoed
by
the
governor
on
the
very
last
day.
So
yeah
I
mean
some
of
it.
Like
is
just
politics
and
there's
not
much.
You
can
do
around
about
that
other
than
vote
in
November.
However,
your
conscious
dictates,
but
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
we
should
put
forward
the
things
that
we
think
are
most
important
and
also
consider
the
feasibility
of
you
know
is
this
likely
to
pass?
D
But
you
know
sometimes
you
put
forward
a
recommendation
and
it'll
take
five
years
before
it
actually
becomes
a
bill
and
then
another
three
years
before
it
becomes
a
law,
so
you're
just
spreading
awareness
and
making
sure
people
know
oh
yeah,
that
thing
I've
heard
about
that
several
years.
Now
we
should
do
something
about
it.
B
All
very
helpful
Katie.
G
Thanks
so
yeah
I
think
these
are
all
great
I
really
appreciate
the
description
that
Colony
gave
of
each
one
that
just
kind
of
gave
a
lot
of
context.
I
was
wondering
actually,
if,
when
we
present
this
to
the
County
Board,
could
we
kind
of
give
more
of
a
description
either
like
verbally
or
a
written
out
paragraph
for
each
one
saying
like
this
is
the
context.
This
is
why
it
was
proposed
because
of
the
Serrano
or
whatever,
or
you
know
this
has
already
been
brought
up
in
Congress
I.
B
Thanks
Kitty
calendars
at
town
like
something
you
could.
D
Do
yeah?
No,
we
definitely
can
provide
more
contacts
than
I've
done
that
before,
for
other
commissions,
with
legislative
parties
where
basically
saying
here's
what
the
priority
is
and
then
here's
why
we
want
this
and
kind
of
what
led
us
to
to
recommend
this.
So
we
can
certainly
do
that
here
as
well
and
also
provide
more
description.
D
That
is
confusing
or
you
feel
like.
Oh
when
you
said
that
I
didn't
realize
that
that's
what
that
meant.
We
want
to
make
it
clear,
because
if
you
don't
understand,
if
the
board's
not
going
to
understand
it
and
they're
legislative
liaison's
not
going
to
understand
it
and
the
legislators
who
read
it
later
potentially
are
not
going
to
understand
it.
So
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
very
clear.
G
Katie
awesome
thanks:
yeah
I
just
have
one
other
one.
Other
comment
which
was
I,
think
I
brought
this
up
in
our
last
Housing
Commission
meeting
about
you
know
the
fact
that
we're
not
bringing
up
the
affordable
housing
ordinance
request
to
increase
that
percentage.
G
You
know
I
am
disappointed,
but
I
I
do
understand
that
there
are
politics
involved.
I
was
just
wondering
like
when
would
be
the
next
opportunity
for
us
to
like
bring
that
up
again
or
to
address
that.
D
November,
so
you
know
when
I
I
spoke
before
about
elections,
have
consequences,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
ones
where
the
board
is
not
willing
to
take
that
up
until
they
see
a
more
favorable,
General,
Assembly
makeup
and
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
something
I
mean
basically,
what
we
heard
from
our
liaison
Matt
is:
if
we.
D
It
so
yeah
I
think
waiting
until
after
November
and
then
I'm
happy
to
to
bring
that
back
up
and
say
you
know,
hey.
Can
we
start
the
process
for
staff
to
figure
out
what
we
think
this
should
be
so
that
maybe
in
2024,
for
the
legislative
priorities
or
2025,
where
you
know
we
have
something
that
the
community
kind
of
agrees
with
and
we
can
move
forward
with
it.
F
F
Does
the
general
assembly
fund
local
government
for
operations
of
their
human
rights
commissions
and
and
also
I
assume
they're
funding
the
state
office
on
Fair
Housing?
So
it
I'm
wondering
if
it's
appropriate
to
put
something
about
that
in
here
to
to
you,
know
ensure
enforcement
of
that
and,
and
then
I
was
thinking
also
because
the
newish
requirement
for
source
of
income
not
not
being
a
detriment
to
your
being
able
to
rent
I,
was
wondering
and
be
counted
as
income.
F
D
I
can
take
a
stab
at
some
of
that
doors
based
on
my
understanding.
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
state
does
not
fund
any
local
office
of
Human
Rights.
D
They
do
not
fund
local,
fair
housing
enforcement
either
they
underfund
the
office
of
fair
housing
at
the
state
level
whose
case
load
exceeds
their
capacity
and
that
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
much
appetite
to
change
that
unfortunately-
and
we
just
saw
with
the
I
think
mayores
from
getting
the
Attorney
General's
last
name
correct.
D
D
They
had
begun
doing
previously.
The
Attorney
General's
office
had
not
but
they've
stopped
under
the
current
attorney
general,
so
I.
The
the
challenge
there,
too,
is
Arlington,
still
has
not
adopted
source
of
funds
as
a
protected
class
in
Arlington.
So
there
is
no
local
enforcement
of
it
in
Arlington,
which
they
keep
acknowledging
that
they
need
to
do.
D
It
just
hasn't
happened
yet,
and
it's
been
two
years
so
I'm
hoping
that
that
will
happen,
but
yeah
the
state
does
not
provide
any
funding
as
far
as
source
of
income
like
how
is
that
going
I
know,
there's
still
violations,
there's
still
groups
like
home
and
equal
rights,
Center
that
are
bringing
a
lot
of
cases
around
it
and
there's
other
groups
that
are
doing
a
lot
of
testing
and
still
finding
a
lot
of
examples
where
landlords
are
discriminating
based
on
source
of
funds.
D
D
So
I
don't
see
right
now
a
lot
of
appetite
to
expand
that
in
the
general
assembly,
although
you
know
again
it
if
the
makeup
changes
potentially
but
I
know
there
are
private
groups
that
are
doing
testing.
They
are
finding
cases
bringing
lawsuits.
D
I,
don't
know
how
much
I've
actually
gone
through,
like
the
the
State
Office
of
fair
housing.
At
this
point,
since
that
law
was
passed
but
yeah,
that's,
hopefully
that
helps
answer
some
of
your
questions.
F
Yeah
yeah
I
I
was
just
it's
and
the
only
other
thing
I
was
thinking
was
that
that
that,
if
there's,
you
know
a
budget,
if
there's
any
kind
of
budget
line
item,
for
you
know
the
human
rights
offices
to
enforce
the
human
rights
law,
you
know
or
Provide
support
whatever
at
the
local
level
that
that
you
know
if,
if
that
was
something
that
was
kind
of
like
a
usual
thing
that
they
might
put
in
the
budget
that
maybe
we
you
know,
maybe
Arlington
County
should
be
saying:
hey,
oh
well,
we
need
some
money
for
that,
but
but
this
is
just
a
budget
item
kind
of
thing
more
than
anything,
so
that
that
then,
when
we
go
to
the
Arlington
human
rights
office
and
say
you
know,
we
need
more
enforcement,
more
investigation
whatever
and
they
say.
F
F
D
Yeah
and
Doris,
my
understanding
is
the
office
of
Human.
Rights
also
doesn't
receive
federal
funding
either
because
they
are
not
a
substantially
equivalent
Fair
Housing
Organization,
so
they
don't
meet
the
standards
set
by
Hud
to
do
their
investigations,
so
they
don't
receive
money
for
for
the
investigations.
D
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
they're
going
to
look
into
as
part
of
like
the
new,
fair
housing
plan
that
was
just
passed
the
summer
or
adopted,
but
yeah
I
mean
we
could
consider
a
request
like
that
to
ask
for
State
funding
to
beef
up
like
local,
fair
housing
enforcement
or
even
just
add
funding
to
the
office
of
fair
housing
at
the
state
level,
because
they're
all
underfunded,
yeah,
we,
we
could
add
it.
D
I,
just
don't
know
how
receptive
they're
going
to
be
to
that,
because
in
our
budget
proposals
that
we
keep
putting
forward
on
other
advocacy
groups
who
keep
asking
for
more
funding
for
fair
housing
enforcement-
and
you
know
things
around
equity
and
those
those
don't
get
put
in
the
budget.
So
yeah
yeah.
D
D
B
Thanks
Doris
and
McAllen,
so
the
more
I
hear
the
more
it
sounds
like
we
beyond
what
we've
talked
about
tonight.
B
We
probably
shouldn't
really
expand
much
more
since
we've
already
added
a
couple
more
things
to
the
list,
so
maybe
the
next
steps
are
kind
of
taking
a
stab
at
some
section,
headers
and
then
expanding
upon
our
existing
language,
adding
the
items
we
talked
about
tonight
and
I'm,
trying
to
think
for
the
expansion
piece
in
terms
of
adding
the
context
that
Kellen
brought
up
that
Katie
Flagg
was
a
good
idea
like
how
we
can
do
that
without
making
without
having
you
Kellen
have
to
do
all
of
it.
A
D
I'm,
certainly
not
going
to
say
no
to
to
other
people
taking
a
first
pass
at
it
happy
to
edit-
and
you
know
add
after
that
so
yeah
that
works
with
me.
B
Okay,
awesome,
so
so
maybe
we
can
kind
of
just
for
like
a
counted
but
not
to
be
like
I,
don't
know
paternalistic,
but
maybe
just
for,
like
accountability's
sake.
Folks,
let
me
know
what
you
think
about
this
idea
tonight.
Kind
of
assigning
Next
Step
leads.
Does
that
work
for
folks,
or
is
that
just
too
bizarre.
G
It's
fine
to
me
I
think
I
would
just
need
the
resources
like
you
mentioned,
like
which
bills
are
they?
You
know
that
the
report,
like
you,
said,
cool.
E
You're
immune
I
wish
I
could
volunteer
to
do
anything,
but
I
am
like
so
behind
at
work.
I
get
it
that
right
now,
I
can
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
the
time
to
put
it
to
make
it.
What
I
would
want
it
to
be
I'm
gonna
apologize.
That's.
B
Okay,
I
get
it
okay,
I
can
take
a
stab
at
that,
and
I
can
also
Kellen
if
you're
able
to
send
around
the
Serrano
reporting
the
bills.
Maybe,
Katie
and
I
can
take
a
stab
at
adding
some
context
to
the
existing
items,
and
then
would
someone
be
willing
to
take
a
stab
at
adding
the
new
language
on
the
items
we
talked
about.
I
think
Alex
has
been
keeping
a
running
list
for
us
of
what
those
are.
A
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
send
this
document
around
after
as
well,
and
then
there
will
be
the
recording
posted
to
the
website.
So
all
the
contacts
that
Kellen
added
will
be
posted
up
on
the
Housing
Commission
page
for
you
to
reference
back
to
as
well.
Just
wanted
to
add
that
oh.
B
H
Nikki
I
could
help
with
that.
I
still
feel
because,
like
I'm
still
so
new
and
understanding
all
of
this
I
could
definitely
take
the
lead
on
adding
the
language.
But
if
you
know
we
could
have
that
I
guess
if
somebody
could
help
me
just
make
sure
that
as
I'm
going
through
it
that
it
makes
sense,
and
it's
the
language
that
we
need
I
would
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
doing
that,
but
I
could
yeah.
I
could
definitely
take
the
lead
on
that
awesome.
B
D
I
was
just
gonna
ask
and
yes,
so
I
will
definitely
review
and
edit,
and
then
the
full
commission
would
still
need
to
review
and
approve
anything
that
we
bring
to
them
as
essentially,
this
would
become
like
a
subcommittee
report
out.
D
I
was
gonna.
Ask
if
Alex,
if
you
could
send
the
Serrano
report
out
to
everyone
and
if
you
could
also
send
them
last
year's
copy
of
the
county
board's
legislative
priorities
just
so
they
can
see
what
that
looks
like
and
then
I
will
track
down
the
bills
that
that
I
referenced
that
you
know
some
of
these
were
based
off
of
to
send
those
out.
B
Great
thanks,
Alex
and
Helen,
okay
I
think
we
have
a
good
list
of
next
steps.
Then,
okay,
I
think
I
mentioned
this
offline
to
you,
but
I,
unfortunately,
will
unless
I
can
try
and
make
it
work
I'll
be
out
of
the
country,
the
next
meeting,
but
can
definitely
communicate
via
email.
But
just
if
someone
would
be
willing
to,
since
you
mentioned
a
report
out,
someone
would
be
willing
to
do
that.
That
would
be
awesome
and
apologies
I'll
try
to
see
if
I
can
join
but
I,
don't
think
it'll
work.
B
D
I
can
be
the
backup,
but
I
feel
like
either
Elizabeth
or
Katie
would
be
great
at
that
if
they
want
to
take
a
stab
at
it.
H
D
A
G
Yeah
well
congrats
Elizabeth
and
I
yeah
I'm
happy
to
report
out
with
backup
from
Helen.