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A
We
do
not
have
a
quorum
this
evening,
and
so
we
have
jsac
members
here,
participating
in
person
and
also
virtually
through
electronic
needs,
but
because
we
do
not
have
a
quorum
of
physical
participants,
physical
jfi
members,
and
we
aren't
really
sure
I'm
not
reading
from
the
script
anymore
I'm
going
ad-lib
here.
We
aren't
really
sure
what
the
rules
are.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
allow
our
virtual
members
to
listen
in
on
our
discussion,
but
but
without
participation.
A
If
you
are
a
guest,
you
can
still
make
get
a
comment
during
public
comment
period.
And
I
will
go
back
to
that
and
that
is
based
on
advice.
We
just
got
from
Brad
right
that
is
based
on
advice
that
we
just
got
from
our
County
board
staff.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
orient
everyone
to
our
hybrid
environment
and
cover
a
few
specifics
about
how
tonight's
meeting
will
be
run.
Members
of
the
public
May
attend
the
meeting
here
in
person
or
electronically
by
using
the
Microsoft
Microsoft
teams
link
provided
on
the
jfact
website.
A
Additionally,
there
is
a
dial-in
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it
for
Commissioners
who
are
joining
virtually
if
anyone
loses
internet
connectivity.
During
today's
meeting,
please
reconnect
with
us
by
phone.
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you
are
called
upon
turn
off
any
other
sound
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference
for
virtual
attendees,
using
Microsoft
teams.
Please
turn
off
your
video
feed
I
will
address
when
it
is
appropriate
to
turn
it
on.
A
In
a
moment,
the
Microsoft
teams
meeting
chat
should
only
be
used
for
participants
who
need
the
technical
assistance
and
for
members,
the
public
to
request
during
the
public
comment
period.
All
public
comments
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record
during
the
assigned
public
comment
periods,
additional
notes
for
jpac
numbers
if
Commissioners
participate,
participating
virtually,
which
should
be
recognized
to
speak
on
an
item
during
the
course
of
the
meeting.
A
Please
turn
on
your
video
feed
and
raise
the
virtual
hand
and
teams
I
monitor
the
video
feeds
that
are
on
as
an
indicator
of
who
would
like
to
speak.
Although
we're
not
doing
that
this
evening,
based
on
advice
from
our
staff
liaison
additional
notes
for
members
of
public
who
would
like
to
provide
feedback
and
public
comment,
we
will
hold
public
comment
at
the
beginning.
A
End
of
the
meeting
those
requesting
to
speak
may
do
so
only
one
comment
period
and
will
be
allotted
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak
on
tonight's
agenda
items
when
virtual
attendees
are
called
upon
to
speak.
You
must
unmute
Yourself
by
clicking
on
the
microphone
icon
that
is
located
on
your
meeting
command
bar.
A
The
moderator
does
not
have
the
ability
to
unmute.
You
will
be
muted
when
your
times
has
completed.
Lastly,
this
is
a
public
forum.
Today's
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
County
website.
All
information
associated
with
today's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken,
is
subject
to
Freedom
of
Information
Act
reports
so
welcome.
My
name
is
Stacey
Snyder.
A
This
is
my
first
in-person
meeting
as
take
that
chair.
We
have
a
new
Vice
chair,
which
is
Wells
Harold
and
we
have
our
former
chair.
Kathleen
McSweeney
here
is
a
special
guest
s,
discuss
the
public
private
partnership
report,
research
that
we
did
last
year
that
we
were
hoping
to
wrap
up,
but
because
we
do
not
have
a
quorum
of
physical
members.
We
need
your
eight
J
fact
members.
So
we
need
five
Commissioners
here
in
person
for
us
to
conduct
business,
so
we
cannot
vote
on
either
of
our
agenda
items
this
evening.
B
A
They
can't
they
cannot.
They
cannot.
Okay,
you
cannot
participate,
sorry,
Janet
and
Ben.
Please
come
next
time.
Okay,
so
let's
first
thing
on
the
agenda:
we're
a
little
bit
behind
public
comment.
A
C
So
I'm
Mariah
Myers
I've
spoken
with
Kathleen
a
couple
times
and
Stacy
once
or
twice.
Thank
you
I'm
in
the
Boston
Virginia
Square
Civic
area,
hello,
State,
so
I
want
I
just
want
to
prep
up
my
comments
by
you
know
thanking
you
for
your
service,
it's
great
to
do
this
Mission
work
and
so
you're,
probably
gonna,
hear
some
criticisms
for
me.
C
So
you
know
in
the
past
a
lot
of
people
in
my
neighborhood
used
to
attend
these
meetings
and
we're
very
engaged
and
now
I'm
the
only
one
here
tonight,
I
haven't
been
for
a
long
time.
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
because
there's
been
a
great
sense
of
disappointment
with
what
has
come
out
of
jpeg
or
perhaps
maybe
not
has
some
of
what
has
come
out
of.
Do
that,
but
really
it's
more
about
how
they
elected
and
especially
the
County
Board
and
some
staff
have
dealt
with
Dave
jfaf
recommendations.
C
So
you
know
I
feel,
like
they've
ignored
a
number
of
the
recommendations
or
they've
agreed
with
the
recommendations
at
one
time
and
then
completely
reverse
course,
at
other
times,
and
I
often
sense
in
some
of
your
own
discussions
from
when
I've
listened
into
jpac
meetings
that
there's
a
strong
sense
that
or
that
there's
a
sense
that
somehow
the
commission
feels
disempowered
or
certainly
I
can
see
a
difference,
I
guess
from
when
it
was
initiated.
C
Until
now,
there
was
a
certain
level
of
I
guess,
enthusiasm
and
interest,
and
it's
really
dropped
off
and
maybe
that's
wrong,
but
I
guess.
The
concern
is
that
there's
I've
seen
like
hundreds
of
hours
of
work
of
jpac
members
over
the
years
and
really
you
know
if
you
have
a
community
engagement
over
the
years
to
spend
thousands
of
hours
of
work.
And
honestly,
it's
like
a
lot
of
it
has
just
ended
up
in
a
garbage,
can
I
would
say.
C
That
are
you
know
not
so
obvious,
or
that
I
haven't
followed,
but
that's
my
general
sense,
especially
what
happened
in
the
early
years
and
I
would
say:
if
you
want
to
do
a
little
homework,
I
would
say:
listen
to
the
June
17th
2017
working
session
of
a
it
was
a
joint
working
session
with
the
board
and
APS
and
JPEG,
and
contrast
lab
with
what
the
board
did
on
May
14th
2022
at
the
board
meeting,
which
is
basically
when
they
made
the
decision
to
put
our
classes
at
the
Quincy
site
was
which
was
an
absolute
reverse
all
at
Steve.
C
You
would
remember
this
of
what
jfact
recommended
damn
it.
It's
been
a
long
time
in
the
weekend,
just
go
and
look
at
that.
Those
two
videos,
a
couple
other
things
for
some
of
my
observations-
is
that,
and
this
is
something
that
I
think
the
number
of
my
my
neighbors
feel
that
there's
just
been
a
power
imbalance
with
APS
versus
the
county,
in
particular
Des
in
terms
of
the
the
level
I
guess
of
interest
and
attention
that
you
know
the
county
gets
over
potential
APS
uses
and,
for
instance,
on
the
Quincy
site.
C
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
interest
among
the
neighborhood
for
engage.
You
know
for
APS
involvement,
I'm,
not
talking
about
the
white
plate,
but
you
know
it
has
been
unsuccessful
and
we've
actually
recently
heard
that
from
a
school
board.
Member
that
basically
APS
is
off
the
table
for
the
Quincy
site
and
I.
Guess.
C
Another
new
item:
if
you'll
just
indulge
me
for
an
extra
minute,
is
the
Carlin
spring
site
which
big
news
yesterday
right
with
a
bhc.
Well
Steve,
you
remember
this
from
years
ago.
That's
all
it
was.
It
was
discussion
about
this
long
list
of
needs,
and
then
you
know
balancing
the
those
two
main
sites,
Quincy
and
constraint.
C
Having
all
these
sort
of
what
fits
discussions,
and
then
there
were
the
final
recommendations
and
again
this
has
like
ended
up
in
the
garbage,
can
and
now
I
guess.
The
question
is
you
know
what
happens
to
the
needs?
If
anything,
since
that
time,
the
needs
are
likely
expanding,
particularly
with
play
Langston
Boulevard,
missing
middle
I'm,
not
saying
like
I'm,
not
scared,
even
to
talk
about
the
signal.
I,
honestly,
don't
care.
Dds
has
presented
their
problems
to
me
than
missing
that
Oliver
will
but
basically
I.
Think
that's
something
if
I
were
you.
C
I
would
really
investigate
like
what
are
the
implications
for
climate
Springs
I
mean
it's
a
done
deal
now,
but
does
it
mean
that
the
needs
have
changed?
Does
it
mean
they've
gotten
shorter?
Does
it
mean
there's
new
acquisition
of
new
sites?
I
mean
I,
recognize
that
there
was
the
Green
Valley
site
purchased
for
for
the
art
facility,
but
you
know
contrasting
with
the
additional
needs
that
we
expect
with
the
new
density.
I.
Don't
think
you
got
a
problem
in
your
hand,
you
that
you,
you
and
the
staff
and
the
electives
almost
done
here.
C
So
the
other
question
is
around
elf.
One
comment
that
a
number
of
my
neighbors
and
I
would
always
make
at
the
jfact
meetings
was
that
we
have
no
representation
on
this
community.
We
tried
a
number
of
people
apply
to
the
Andre
fact,
and
they
had
that
experience.
C
You
know
a
range
of
different
experiences
that
would
have
qualified
that
my
height
to
have
been
jpac
members
and
we
were
they
were
explicitly
denied.
I
personally
did
not
apply
because
my
father
was
dying
at
the
time
of
the
application,
but
I
know
like
there
weren't
a
handful
of
people
who
were
both
qualified
and
denied.
C
So
I
think
that
that's
that
just
raises
the
issue
of
a
voice
for
our
community
and
I
work
in
International,
Development,
and
probably
the
last
thing
you
would
do
is
deny
the
people
who
are
perhaps
the
most
affected,
an
amount
of
voice.
Whether
it's
on
this
committee
or
not
I,
will
say
that
any
type
of
voice
that
we've
had
has
been
either
by
inviting
a
commission
member
to
a
civic
association
meeting
or
attending
public.
C
You
know
giving
public
comment,
and
in
the
first
years
the
first
year
we
were
able
to
as
a
civic
association,
make
up
a
presentation
at
jpac.
So
if
y'all
think
that's
good
practice,
I
don't
know
that
you
do
I'd,
be
surprised,
actually,
I,
don't
think
it
certainly
doesn't
follow
the
rhetoric.
So
the
practice
that
we
have
experienced
is
not
at
all
follow
the
rhetoric
that
I
hear
from
the
people
down
hall
and
others
in
the
academy,
so
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
C
You
can
go
back
to
the
minutes
and
you
can
see
that
you
know
this
is
something
we
usually
if
we
remember,
we'd
always
bring
it
up,
that
we
have
no
voice
and
my
almost
lost
common
is
I
mean
I've,
actually
thought
about
writing
case
studies
about
this.
C
C
I'll
give
my
own
experience
within
my
neighborhood.
They
put
our
buses
in
a
fully
extended
areas,
fully
surrounded
by
residential
I'm,
almost
done
for
what
is
termed
a
temporary.
But
yet
it's
renewable
period
right
and
they
put
in
a
hello,
George
I,
put
in
a
a
seven
six,
six
or
seven
foot
fence
with
a
blanket
on
it
to
provide
screening.
That's
it
right!
So
they're
not.
They
said
that
by
zoning
they're
not
required
to
do
it
by
code
personally
and
it's
bad
practice
right,
so
everybody's
Pleasant,
polite,
etc,
etc.
C
Hello
but
I
think
it's
bad
practice
and
I
think
that
in
particular
this
site-
and
we
were
anticipating
corn
Springs
site
too,
would
have
this
continuation
of
temporary
uses
and
ignoring
and
inattention.
So
I
think
for
me,
because
again
with
the
new
with
all
the
developments,
I
think
that
you
guys
are
in
a
great
place
to
be
recommending
buffering
and
transition
and
timetables
too
right.
It's
been
seven
years
since
we've
been
living
with
this
cloud
in
both
certainty
with
the
Quincy
site.
C
I
have
no
more
information
today
as
compared
to
seven
years
ago
and
we're
living
with
terrible
conditions.
And
if
you
don't
believe
me,
welcome
you
to
come
to
our
neighborhood
and
you
know,
go
to
any
of
my
neighbor's
yards
and
just
at
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
enjoy
the
noise,
the
idling,
the
pollution
from
the
buses.
So
with
that,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
attention
again,
not
intended
to
criticize
any
of
you
individually,
but
I
think
these
are
important
things
for
you
to
know,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
too.
A
E
We
generally
don't,
unless
you
wanted
I,
think
maybe
addressing
the
you
know
how
people
get
onto
the
jury
pack
that
we
have
not
received
any
any
applications
that
we
haven't
followed
up
with.
F
A
Mean
at
least
that
you
know
I've
only
been
chair
for
yeah
three
weeks
so
but
yeah
I've
had
one
application,
seen
one
application
and
as
far
as
I
know
it's
moving
through
and
you
know,
I
think
there
were
different
processes
and
you
know
I
will
say,
as
you
know,
and
I
think
you
and
Kathleen
and
I
spoke
yeah.
You
know
a
couple
several
months
ago
and
I
will
continue
to
say
what
you
know.
A
I
think
really
a
broad
and
long-range
planning
would
be
very
helpful
in
situations
you
know
and
I
responded
to
Steve
about
the
consent,
email
about
the
the
Carlin
spring
site
and
I
said
you
know
like
it.
It
really
underscores
this
need
for
Broad
and
yes
and
long-range
planning
like
it's
I
I
feel
like
you're.
A
You
know
if
there
was
a
long-range
plan
and
vision
for
what
would
happen
to
those
buses
you
know
for,
for
the
you
know,
for
the
Trade
Center
site
and
where
the
buses
would
eventually
go
and
you're
like
okay,
we
can
live
with
this,
for
you
know,
X
number
of
years.
You
know
I,
think
that
there
to
me
I
every
day,
I
see
new
examples
of
the
need
for
Broad
and
long-range
planning,
and
that
is
what
our
Focus
wants
to.
A
You
know
that
is
where
I
want
to
put
our
focus
in
jfac
and
sometimes
we'll
look
at
smaller.
You
know
at
at
smaller
questions
like
the
public,
private
Partnerships,
or
you
know,
kind
of
more
specific
things
we
should
kind
of
will
help
us
lead
to
a
better.
You
know
kind
of
broad,
broader
long-range,
collaborative
planning,
but
I
think
if
we
you
know
kind
of
it
does
I
I
think
that
that
would
be
helpful
in
that
you
know,
I
mean
we're
going
to
talk.
We
can't
vote
on
our
updated
Charter
tonight,
but
I
mean
that's.
A
That
is
the
direction
that
I
hoped
that
the
the
new
the
updated
recommendations,
it's
not
radically
changed
from
the
original
charter,
but
it
it
does
sort
of
give
it
a
little
bit
more
Focus
to
you
know
to
direct
you
know
and
make
recommendations
that
lead
to
better
collaborative
long-range
planning,
and
that's
really
all
we
can
do.
As
a
citizen
commission
I
mean
we
can't
make
decisions,
we
can't
you
know,
you
know
really
that's
right.
Okay,
Kathleen
nurse.
E
Thank
you,
I
was
just
going
to
suggest,
since
we
do
have
Mr
may
actually
on,
and
there
were
some
very
specific
things
that
were
mentioned
or
asked.
Maybe
when
people
a
chance
to
address
any
of
the
comments.
H
H
The
events
that
are
going
on
this
week,
we're
all
determined
by
negotiations
with
the
county
manager
for
this
this
counterpart
at
Virginia
hospital
and
beyond
that
I.
Don't
have
anything
to
add
at
this
time.
G
Okay,
thank
you
so
I
I
would
like
to
respond
briefly.
At
I
would
like
to
express
my
personal
disappointment
with
the
manner
in
which
the
apparent
deal
was
conducted
announced
there
appears
to
have
been
no
Community
involvement
whatsoever.
When
I
say
community
I
need
the
adjoining.
G
So
I
think
it's
actually
a
fabulous
overall
idea
and
there's
a
huge
need
so
I,
don't
think
for
the
mental
health
facilities.
I,
don't
think
that's
a
question
and
in
fact,
I
think
the
community
actually
is
broadly
supportive
of
the
the
facility.
However,
the
complete
lack
of
transparency-
this
is
hiding
the
ball.
I
think
unnecessarily
I'm,
not
sure
why
the
county
felt
that
they
had
to
hide
the
ball
on
the
discussions
that
we're
taking
place,
but
they
were
kept
highly
Secret
jfact
was
not
involved.
The.
G
Were
not
involved,
and
so
it
violated
that
no
surprises
concept,
that
we've
kind
of
advocated
for
I
know
that
your
community
was
taken
by
surprise
with
the
art
buses,
and
this
is
a
big
surprise
in
terms
of
it's
being
kind
of
sprung
as
it
done
deal
for
the
local
communities
around
the
carlit
spring
site.
So
I
I
think
it's
very
disappointing,
but
most
concretely
have
jfact
been
involved.
I
think
we
would
have
advocated
for
compatible
co-location
concepts
for
the
facility
that
I
think.
G
There
isn't
a
big
issue
with
schools,
but
APS
has
other
space
needs
addition
to
actual
schools
themselves,
so
I
I
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
very
disappointed
and
I
do
feel
that
Jay
fact
was
minimized
and
cut
out
of
the
loop
and
I
think
it
was
detrimental.
I
think
we
could
have
added
some
value.
We
could
have
at
least
put
on
the
table
I
that
we
consider
some
kind
of
location.
G
Cedaria
is
here
so
I
I
don't
want
to
go
up
at
Brave
legs,
but
I
I
think
it
was
a
lost
opportunity,
I'm,
hoping
that
we
will
still
have
some
opportunity,
but
it's
kind
of
like
the
horses
out
of
the
barn
yeah.
A
I
mean
there
will
be
a
you
know:
I
got
a
phone
call
from
our
County
Board
of
liaison
a
few
minutes
before
the
press
release
came
out
telling
me
that
it
was
coming
out,
so
that
was
an
informed
I.
I
was
about
it
and
but
it
did
say
in
the
press
release
that
the
that
there
will
be
a
public
review
process
and
student
email
that
will
probably
the
liaison
for
that
from
jfact,
because,
as
our
final
use
permit,
like
the
public
facilities,
it
says
it
will
go
through.
A
A
Yeah
it'll
go
through
public
Facilities,
Review,
Committee
right
and
so
hopefully,
I
I
will
request
that
JFK
has
a
member
on
that
committee
and
and
we'll
need
a
volunteer.
A
So
but
no
commitments
needed
at
net
at
this
point
because
maybe
that's
special
business.
G
F
A
Did
I
mean
it
it?
You
know
when,
when
the
community
I
think
when
there
is
a
long-range
plan,
you
bring
the
community
along
with
you
in
a
way,
I
mean
I,
understand
that
there
are
some
you're
doing
like
brand
acquisition
deals,
that
there
has
to
be
some
privacy
and
some
you
know,
secrecy
to
a
degree
about,
but
I
think
articulating
to
the
community,
that
we
need
spaces
or
mental
health
facilities.
You
know
that
would
would
be
helpful
and
I
think
that
it
all
making
a
decision.
A
Arlington
County,
is
too
small
to
land
constrained
to
make
decisions
in
a
silo
like
we
need
to
be.
You
know
this
is
the
whole
role
of
jfac.
We
need
to
be
thinking
about
co-location.
We
need
to
be
thinking
about.
You
know
what
is
the
best
use
for
this
site,
both
short-term
and
long
term.
You
know
if
we
use
this
site
now,
what
does
that
mean
for
the
the
other
site
that
is
left
open?
You
know
like
what
you
know
and
what
are
the
other
needs
that
we're
going
to
need
to
vote.
A
I
mean
I
just
feel
like
that
that
that
that
it
is
so
critical-
and
you
know
you
hear
it-
I
hear
it-
you
know
in
my
neighborhood
brings
up
every
time,
but
my
neighborhood,
the
serve
that
is
just
you
know,
totally
against
missing
middle
I
feel
like
I,
just
want
to
chime
in
and
say
like
we
could
just
get
the
county
to.
You
know
like
shut
demonstrate
this
long-range
plan
like
that
they
are
going.
You
know
that
they
have
a
plan
to
address
Transportation.
They
have
a
plan
to
address
parking.
A
You
know
like
that
that
maybe
it
would
be
that
they
could
build
some
Goodwill
with
me
and
try
to
use
that
in
a
positive
way.
So.
F
I
I
want
to
open
response
as
well
to
the
extent
you
mentioned,
the
diesel
fumes
and
the
sound
and
the
emissions
as
a
nuisance
on
Monday,
the
c2e2
commission,
climate
change,
environmental
commission.
They
had
an
agenda
item
on
the
art,
bus,
zero
emissions,
bus,
like
pilot
demonstration
study,
I,
know
that
this
doesn't
solve
the
problem
of
where
the
buses
are,
but
if
they
are
going
to
remain
there,
if
there
is
conversion
to
Electric
that
may
help
address
some
of
the
diesel
fumes
sound
nuisances.
I
So
I
just
invite
you
to.
If
you
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
that,
it's
up
on
the
website,
and
that
may
be
another
Avenue
to
pursue
to
try
to
address
wherever
these
end
up
permanently,
but
in
this
in
the
in
the
next
seven
years
or
whatever.
What
happened
so
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
A
Okay,
so
if
you
have
public
comment,
do
we
have
any
liaison
updates
just
said
the
one
that
we're
going,
the
one
that
we
see
coming
up,
which
is
hopefully
a
public
facility
view
committee
for
a
pfrc
for
the
spring
site
which
I've
been
request,
but
Kathleen?
Do
you
want
to
talk
to
us
about
the
report.
E
Sure
our
report
I
don't
know,
but
it's
okay,
to
put
that
up
now.
J
A
E
Great
one
of
the
things
we
noted
is
that
the
the
track
changes-
it's
not
necessarily
showing
up
here
so
I'm
just
going
to
point
out
where
those
changes
are
in
terms
of
the
introduction.
The
first
three
paragraphs
there
were
only
very
minor,
you
know
like
typographical
or
you
know
missing,
word
changes
like
of
and
the
so
I,
don't
think
it's
material.
So
we
could
go
to
the
next
item
and
the
next
item
would
be
the
executive
summary.
E
The
next
heading
I
should
say
so.
The
executive
Hub
summary.
E
Okay,
the
executive
summary
is
a
new
section.
It
was
in
the
report
at
least
the
heading.
This
is
the
report
the
last
time
we
talked
about
this,
but
we
actually
wanted
to
have
a
conversation
before
we
were
able
to
summarize
so
this
piece
of
the
the
report
is
new.
Thank
you
Steve,
because
oh
no
yeah
Steve,
there
were
elements
also
where
you,
where
you
had
them,
suggested
some
some
additions
and
so
I
put
those
in
the
executive
summary
it
was
a
while
ago.
E
So
you
may
not
remember,
but
so
this
whole
area
is
is
new,
I
I,
don't
know.
We
should
stop
at
every
section
and
talk
about
any
questions.
People
have,
or
maybe
some
changes
I
will
share
that
any
typos
will
get
corrected
before
we
would
send
it
out.
E
I
E
Oh
I,
don't
know
what
happened
there.
Okay
I
think.
The
idea
was
that,
for
this
reason,
the
jfact
is
recommending
that
there
were
some
follow-on
activities
that
the
jfac
had
indicated.
We
followed
up
with
a
couple
of
them
but
they're,
but
there
are
some
that
we
could,
if
or
that
you
could,
because
you
decided
to
take
those
actions
and
and
that'll
actually
be
enough.
The
following:
okay
I'll
finish
this
sentence,
but
that's
what
that
that's
what
it's
referring
to.
So
it
would
be
something
like.
E
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
the
background
actually
very
little
has
changed
again,
just
some
corrections
for
the
first
couple
sentences
or
paragraphs
rather,
and
so
if
you
go
past
the
sample
preliminary
process,
I'm
sorry
I,
don't
see
page
numbers
on
mine,
page
three
and
then
go
to
why.
Why
can't
we
pull.
E
I
F
D
J
E
E
Could
I
make
one
comment
about
before
we
do
that
about
appendix
B
listing
of
resources
used
in
the
research?
Just
it's
just
a
note:
I
had
copied
I
had
a
spreadsheet
where
I
was
keeping
all
of
my
research
I
cop
I,
cut
and
pasted
it
into
this,
which
then
meant
it
was
not
editable.
So
I
will
be
replacing
it
rather
than
snipping
it.
I
will
be
I'll,
do
it
differently,
so
that
it's
actually
editable
in
this
document.
E
I
So
I
had
a
few
Just
Thoughts
upon
further
reflection
of
the
original
language.
I
wondered
if
we
could
add
a
reference
to
potential
swinging
space
Options
under
the
first
bullet
and
and
I'm
I'm,
just
sensitive
about
this,
with
some
of
the
incidents
that
happened
at
one
of
our
elementary
schools
being
shut
down
for
several
days
of
just
like.
I
But
a
set
of
you
know
classrooms
like
this,
so
just
like
or
partner
with
the
county,
just
to
try
to
be
all
creative,
like
hey
everyone,
instead
of
switching
to
Virtual,
let's
have
the
teachers
and
the
kids
show
up,
and
this
lease
built
office
building
or
this
whatever
so
I
I
just
wondered
if
some
sort
of
reference
to
swing
space
is
a
way
that's
not
Grand
and
permanent,
and
going
to
take
over
for
eight
months
while
they
rebuilt
what
is
a
little
bit
more
nuanced
and
can
deal
with
you
know
these.
I
I
Co-Located,
I,
I,
just
I
think
that
might
feel
like
a
stretch,
I
wonder
if
we
could
instead
say
like
dog
park
or
something
something
that
maybe
you
It
just
strikes
me
that
classrooms
and
housing
and
water
treatment
may
not
be
the
best
yeah
fit
okay
and
then
the
third
bullet
a
little
concerned
about
that
they
APS
has
been
investing
in
kitchen
expansion
at
multiple
schools,
so
they
are
moving
away
from
the
idea
of
Outsourcing
food
preparation.
So
this
would
just
kind
of
like
run
contrary
to
so
much
of
the
capital
investment.
I
So
I,
don't
think
that's
useful
after
school
activities
they
already
Outsource
the
breed
amps
and
then
Transportation
not
sure
exactly
what's
meant
here,
but
they
they
use
charter
buses
for
field
trips
and
so
they're
sort
of
either
already
doing
some
of
this
I'm
just
not
sure
how
much
value
this
bullet
is.
F
E
Do
you
want
to
take
that?
That's
great
okay,
yep
I
think
that
those
are
all
good
updates
and
a
lot
of
these
came.
You
know
way
before
several
months
ago,
yeah.
E
So
then,
appendixity
at
what
there
are
other
common
funds
to
see
appendix
D
are
the
recommendations
for
follow-up
mentioned
at
the
prior
meetings.
Actually,
really
it's
the
priority
that
we
had
for
additional
interviews
or
research
that
were
suggested
so
in
the
in
I
would
just
mention.
So
if
some
of
this
is
some
of
this
is
new
specifically
that
we
did
reach
out
to
Julian
gonsalves
who's,
the
assistant
City
Manager
for
public
private
Partnerships
for
Alexandria.
E
He
very
interestingly
responded
that
there
is
a
joint
solar
project
that
is
actually
being
led
by
Alexander
Public
Schools,
where
the
city
is
providing
subject
matter
expertise.
So
it
is
some.
It
is
I.
Think
one
of
the
first
public-private
partnership
projects
in
Alexandria,
where
schools
and
the
city
are
actually
collaborating,
and
so
what
he
said
was
he
would
like
to
defer
speaking
with
jfac
until
maybe
late
March,
when
he'll
have
more
information
on
the
success,
or
maybe
some
lessons
learned
about
about
that
collaboration.
E
And
so
the
suggestion
is
that
Jay
back
will
reach
out
to
Mr
Gonzalez
at
the
end
of
March.
Thank.
A
You
for
making
that
content
I
think
that's
I
mean
to
me
our
the
research
that
we
did
on
this
public-private
partnership
is
interests.
What
is
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
it.
That's
interesting
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
possibilities,
but
that
can
that
it
became
this
kind
of
means
of
connecting
like
the
county
and
APS
projects,
or
you
know,
kind
of
a
you
know:
a
solar
technology,
expertise
with
with
Alexandria
Public
Schools
I.
A
E
Together,
it's
also
interesting
that
Alexandria
saw
such
promise
in
public-private
Partnerships
that
they
created
a
position.
Yeah
actually
oversee
it
right.
So
in
some
ways
it's
a
little
bit
of
chicken
in
the
egg
right
right,
you
can,
you
can
take
the
action
to
activate
I,
guess
and
identify
the
different
projects
that
could
become
public-private
Partnerships
in
your
jurisdiction,
your
account
to
your
city
right
or
you
could
create
an
office.
That
then
makes
it
happen
right.
So
you
know
I
I
think
maybe
there's
a
lesson
in
that
for,
for.
F
I
Follow-Up,
this
is
coming
out
of
some
discussions.
I
heard
about
again:
electric
vehicle,
electric
bot,
school
bus
or
us
charging
infrastructure,
apparently
jurisdictions
do
run
into
challenges
with
trying
to
deal
with
all
of
the
components
separately
versus
tapping
into
kind
of
a
private
partnership
where
they
already
have
the
relationships
with
a
particular
bus
manufacturer.
That
requires
a
particular
charging
station,
and
that
requires
a
particular
software
or
you
know,
and
so
this
may
be
another
opportunity
that
it's
due
to
the
the
sort
of
the
novelty
of
the
industry.
Being
you
know
it's
very
dispersed.
I
It's
not
concentrated
it's
not
already.
Oh
all
the
standards
are
figured
out
that
kind
of
situation,
maybe
another
situation
that
would
be
useful
to
leverage
a
private
company
who
has
done
all
that
groundwork.
So
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
now,
whether
we
want
to
put
it
in
here
or
just
mention
it
elsewhere.
But
it's
something
that
I'm
becoming
aware
of
with.
E
Charging
structure
I
think
it's
a
great
suggestion
because
remember
ppea,
even
though
it
says
education
in
the
title,
it
can
be
Transportation,
it
can
be
Parks,
it
can
be.
You
know
any
sort
of
infrastructure,
energy
technology,
so
yeah
it's
a
technology,
but
you
get
the
idea
so
I
think
that's
a
great
thing.
I
I
would
ask
Claire.
Is
it
possible
for
you
to
write
something
up
and
send
it
only
because
I
think
you're
more
well-versed
and
in
this
than
I
am
yeah
sure.
G
E
E
And
then
I
wasn't
sure
we
had
had
Eric
had
suggested.
Excuse
me
some
questions
to
ask
of
APs
really
to
get
provide
a
little
bit
more
of
a
baseline
for
some
of
the
recent
projects
that
had
some
difficulty
to
do
a
little
bit
more
of
analysis.
You
know:
is
this
something
that
ppea
that
a
private
public
private
partnership
could
actually
have
helped
with
or
not?
You
know,
some
of
that
is
a
little
bit
of
you
know
we
have
to
we'd,
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
guessing.
E
You
know
educated
guessing
in
that
case,
but
but
you
know,
like
the
I'm,
just
gonna
pick
on
a
project,
the
lack
of
accessibility
in
a
school
in
in
a
in
inside
the
school
and
also
with
the
playground
of
a
school.
You
know
in
a
public-private
Partnerships
that
have
been
in
the
specs.
If
that
had
actually
been
in
the
requirements,
the
private
partnership
would
have
been.
E
You
know
on
the
hook
to
make
those
changes,
and
so
you
know
I
think
there
are
they're
always
a
little
more
complicated
than
that,
but
it
might
be
interesting
to
actually
go
ahead
and
still
do
this
series
of
questions
with
Renee,
Harvard
and
or
her
staff
whomever
she.
You
know
thanks
to
the
jpeg
and
you
don't
and
and
maybe
it's
not
even
you
don't
have
to
talk
to
them.
Maybe
it's
just
have
them.
E
You
know
fill
out
this
questionnaire
because
I
thought
they
were
good
questions
I
think
that's
a
good
way.
A
Of
kind
of
wrapping
that
up
because
yeah
I
think
when
we
had
the
last
time
we
had
the
discussion
about
this.
There
were
so
many
ideas
about
how
to
move
forward
and
it
was
like
it
was
like
we
could.
We
could
continue
to
do
this
for
a
year,
but
I
like
the
way
that
you
could
still
listed
these
questions
because
I
think
they're
very
relevant,
and
it
would
be
interesting
to
find
out
what
what
the
answers
are.
But
it's
also
you
know,
but
are
we
going
to
move
on
to
other
questions?
A
You
know,
I
will
say
that
Wells
and
I
are
meeting
with
our
County
Board
and
School
Board
liaison
tomorrow
morning,
so
we
really
haven't
finalized.
What
our
work
plan
will.
A
Year
but
I
mean
we
have
some
ideas,
but
I
don't
want
to
say
with
what
they
are
without
having
spoken
to
both
our
kids.
The
last
time
we
tried
to
set
a
meeting,
David
couldn't
make
it
and
Wells
couldn't
make
it
so
it
was
just
Libby
and
I
and
I
don't
feel
like
I.
Could
you
know
just,
but
anyway
we
will
have
more
information
at
our
February
meeting
about
what
our
work
plan
is
going
to
be
for
the
coming
year.
A
You
know
I'm
I'm,
hopeful
that
we
will.
You
know
we
will
be
working
on.
You
know
toward
some
long-range
planning,
whether
it's
you
know
either
more
focused
smaller
pieces
or
bigger,
even
so,
we'll
we'll
keep
going,
but
I
really
do
like
to
get
us
off
track,
but
I
really
do
like
the
way
that
you
Incorporated
those
questions
still
in
there.
You.
E
Know
and
I
I
was
going
to
offer.
First
of
all,
then
Mama
thought
that
actually
offered
to
also
have
a
conversation
or
be
part
of
a
conversation
with
William
Gonzalez
from
Alexandria.
So
I
don't
know
if
this
group
would
want
him
to
come
and
speak
to
the
jpac,
if
that's
a
possibility
right
or
if
you
would
want
Ben
and
I
would
also
offer
you
know,
I
would
be
happy
to
continue
to
follow
up
on
some
of
these
items.
E
If
you
wanted
to
appoint
me
to
like
a
subgroup
or
something
right
and
and
work
with
Ben
to
have
that
conversation
say
offline
and
bring
that
information
to
the
JFK
I
guess
it
all
depends
on
what
their
work
plan
looks
like.
A
Yeah
well,
let's
see
right
right
now
we
have
a
couple
things
lined
up
for
February.
It
looks
like
we're.
Gonna
try
to
get
it
for
me,
but
on
this
again
and
our
Charter
again,
I
think
we're
also
going
to
get
an
update
on
projections
and
maybe
something
on
the
budget.
F
A
A
A
All
right,
so
we
will
move
on
now
to
too
far
behind
recommendations
on
updates
to
the
jpac
Charter.
A
So
this
is
a
cleaned
up
version
draft
that
has
gone
through
quite
a
few
cleaned,
up
versions,
drafts
and
cleaned
up
versions.
We
can
potentially
show
what
the
original
Charter
looked
like.
A
If
that
is
something
that
you
guys
want
to
look
at,
I
don't
know
if
our
members
here
have
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
updated
Charter
and
if
you
have
any
questions
or
thoughts.
J
I
just
call
it
one
of
the
biggest
changes
and
this
is
trying
to
kind
of
reorient
us
toward
pushing
the
county
and
it
has
to
be
more
proactive
and
reactive.
So
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
scrolling
down
to
the
bottom
out
of
the
first
page,
a
little
bit
of
this
yes
yeah
just
scroll
down
the
bottom
half,
so
that's
the
old
shirt
yeah.
So
you
notice
that
so
those
first
two
points
are
just
review.
J
So
we
are,
you
know,
kind
of
passively
taking
in
what
the
county
APS
give
us
and
then
getting
feedback
with
the
new
Charter.
We
can
kind
of
Click
over
to
that
new
proposed
Charter.
J
The
very
first
element
of
our
chart-
scroll
up
just
a
little
bit
to
get
to
that
first
paragraph,
sorry,
is:
is
that
focused
on
long-range
planning?
Having
that
be
our
mode
star?
That
guides
the
rest
of
our
work.
A
And
then
we
rearranged
some
of
the
you
know.
We
we
put
the
capital
review
the
capital
Improvement
plan.
You
know
as
number
two
I
think
in
the
original
charter.
It
was
down
at
number
three
or
four.
A
Anyway,
maybe
it
was
at
two
anyway
review:
cips,
okay
yeah.
It
was
a
two,
some
reason
it
was
in
another
draft.
It
got
moved
down,
but
I
think
sorry,
that's
okay,
but
anyway,
so
that
I
mean
the
CIP.
Work
is
important.
Work
that
we
do
and
and
and
on
the
alignment
between
the
two
cips
I
think
is
really
important.
We
realize
that
that
became.
A
And
you
know
the
needs
assessment
reports
provide
updates
to
you
know.
The
rest
is
that
is
not
that
much
change
is
that
Brad,
it
isn't
radically
changed,
but
I
think
where
we
did
what
you
know,
we
did
put
more
of
an
emphasis
on
collaborative
long-range
planning.
A
You
know,
you
know,
go
ahead.
Claire
I.
I
Can't
remember
if
we
referenced
the
fac,
the
aps
facilities
committee
version
either
by
expressing
like
a
potential
Nissan
or
a
potential
check-in
or
a
informal
partnership.
I
I,
don't
know,
but
given
that
we're
joined
I
just
didn't
know,
there
was
any
appetite
for
that.
I
A
It
is
it's
schools,
facilities,
The,
Advisory,
Council,
on
school
facilities,
cat
best
time.
I
I
A
That
yeah
and
that
would
be-
and
we
may
get
that
update
in
March.
That's
like
the
needs
assessment
thing
that
they've
been
working
on
for
for,
like
the
disabilities
review
supposed
to
help.
I
A
On
the
the
consultant
right,
but
that
that
we
will
be
involved.
I
F
I
More
more
frequent
investment
in
these
types
of
decision
matrices
they
developed
one
on
building
electrification
retrofits.
So
it's
a
decision
tool.
F
I
These
decision
tools,
these
matrices
they
may
end
up
being
a
lot
more
important
than
than
we
know,
because,
based
on
the
assumptions,
that's
how
you
get
to
allocate
resources.
It's
like
oh
well,
plug
it
into
the
algorithm
and
it
out
spits
out
of
mental
health
facility
Carlin
Springs.
But
you
know
what
so
it's
like.
Well
then,
let's,
let's
talk
about
the
algorithm,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
because
I'm
seeing
a
trend
there
towards
these
decisions,.
A
Maybe,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
reference,
I
mean
we,
we
do
say,
review
APS
and
County
needs
assessment
reports
and
maybe
maybe
and
just
say
and
other
decision
making
decisions
or.
J
J
Any
of
the
intent
of
that
is
to
make
clear
that
we
don't
just
want
to
be
a
sort
of
like
you
know,
rubber
stamp
at
the
end
of
the
CIP
process,
and
the
point
is
not
just
to
get
us
involved
at
the
proposed
CID,
but
well
before
that
at
the
stage
where
they're
actually
developing
their
needs
assessments,
so
that
we
can
give
meaningful
inputs.
Then,
as
the
cips
be
prepared
before
it's
actually
important
yeah.
A
D
A
And
that
that's
what
the
the
app
shop
does
is.
It
sets
up
at
least
for
APS.
It's.
You
know
it
kind
of
creates
the
scenario
like
here's.
What
we
need.
Here's,
what
we
have
you
know,
here's
the
competing
interests
and
we
have
to
weigh
all
of
these
and
I
I
do
I
will
say:
I
was
on
a
chairs
meeting
last
night,
chair
of
the
school
board.
Read
Goldstein
is
the
chair
this
year
and
he
and
and
Rosa
changed.
The
chair
of
the
fact
was
talking
about.
There's
new
and
I.
A
Think
Robert
heard
that
and
that
asset
and
our
APS
staff
that
came
to
talk
to
us
in
December
also
talked
about
their
new
timing
for
jvac
and
fact
to
provide
input
for
the
apps
app.
So,
instead
of
so
we're
going
to
be
at
least
the
fact
Rosa
was
explaining
we'll
be
invited
to
provide
input
over
the
summer.
So
there
will
be
the
the
fact
that
ASAP
will
be
released
in
June,
something
yes
and
then,
but
they
won't,
but
CIP
Direction
will
be
made
made
by
the
staff.
A
B
A
A
Yeah
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
reference
right,
I
mean
I,
do
think.
That's
a
great
like
it's
not
it
I
think
that's
an
improvement
on
the
process.
A
I
I
will
say
that
back
in
2019,
when
they
did
to
ASAP
I
was
chair
of
the
facilities
advisory
committee
at
the
time,
and
we
made
a
lot
of
recommendations,
changes
to
the
apps
app
that
that
were
responded
to
by
staff,
and
you
know
and
implemented.
You
know
and
I
mean
we
work
together.
A
There
were
a
lot
of
changes
and
patients
and
that
that
would
begin
to
build
a
bridge
towards
greater
collaboration
with
the
counties,
but
the
idea,
like
kind
of
began
to
speak
more
of
the
same
languages
where
they,
instead
of
planning
in
quadrants,
they
started
planning.
You
know
they
started
showing
you
know:
growth
in
the
Metro
station.
B
A
E
I
was
just
gonna
just
mention,
you
know,
I,
think
a
lot
of
changes
are
good
and
number.
Three,
though
I
think
what
it
points
out
when
you
read
it,
it
it'd
been
involved
in
this,
for
any
time
is
that
APS
does
have
a
process
by
which
you
know
the
apps
that
they
actually
have
a
process
by
which
you
can
actually
see
what
the
thinking
is
and
what
the
planning
is.
The
county,
on
the
other
hand,
does
not
have
a
transparent
planning
process.
E
E
That
is
entirely
transparent,
like
it
on
the
school
side
and
so
I,
just
I
I
think
it's
interesting,
because
there
is
a
little
bit
of
an
imbalance
in
terms
of
what
the
jpac
is
going
to
review
and
it's
it's
really
a
function
of
how
each
entity
operates.
E
A
H
A
Recommendation
for
the
county
to
have
a
similar,
a
similar
planning
document
for
their
public
facilities.
A
To
the
apps
app
you
know,
maybe
in
that
document
a
public
health
facility.
You
know
mental
health
facility
would
have
been
mentioned.
You
know,
maybe
in
that
document
you
know
there
would
be
more
planning,
for
you
know:
bus
Park,
you
know
kind
of
long-range
planning,
you
know
identified
for
bus
parking
or
you
know,
electrification
of
our
buses
and
you
know
I
know
you
know
the
Trade
Center
exactly.
F
C
F
A
Yeah
observation,
yeah
I
mean
I'm,
just
wondering
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can.
A
Yeah
yeah
or
nudge
nudge,
the
county
to
potentially.
A
A
Urge
planning
alignment
I,
don't
but
of
of
the
reports,
encourage
planning.
J
So
we
have
alignments
reference
in
point
two
with
us
for
the
cips
themselves
and
their
subject
matter
and
then
under
three.
You
know
at
the
end
of
that
first
sentence
with
guts
and
provide
input
on
the
development
of
the
CIP,
which
would
be
purely
Encompass
right
weighing
in
on
the
process
right
for
developing
them,
especially
these
sensors
one
seems
to
be
following
a
more
kind
of
public,
open,
transparent
process
that
the
other,
with
kind
of
further
timetables,
I
guess
the
question
is:
how
much
do
we
actually
want
to
put
it
prescriptively
in
there.
A
I
mean
we
do
say,
make
recommendations
on
their
respective
boards
on
each
report
to
just
say.
Consider
we
could
also
say
consider
the
alignment
again
consider
the
alignment
of
the
reports.
E
Their
alignment
of
the
planning,
so
I
guess
I
I,
wasn't
suggesting
putting
anything
else
in
there.
I
was
and-
and
certainly
this
is
not
really
bite
of
the
apple
right.
In
fact,
on
other
New
Year's
meeting
the
County
Board
actually
specifically
spoke
about
commission
charges.
F
E
Don't
know
if
any
of
you
watched
that,
but
they
specifically
spoke
about
commission
charges
and
Miss
Crystal
said
well.
We
actually
encourage
our
commissions
to
review
their
charges
very
regularly.
In
fact,
the
jpap
is
doing
theirs
now,
so
I
was
quite
pleased
that
you
know
other
board.
Members
knew
that,
but
it
it
turns
out
that
maybe
in
the
future
you
know
again.
I
just
meant
you
know
to
make
an
observation.
E
If
it
turns
out
the
future
that
you
know
the
pushing
you
know,
gently
isn't
isn't
happening
or
seeing
you
aren't
seeing
a
result
you
know
I
would
I
would
go
back
to
my
accounting
for
liaison
and
talk
about
it.
Yeah.
I
I
Are
we
saying
also
that
it
the
needs?
Assessments
are
not
dispersed
in
all
the
different
little?
You
know,
departments
and
Hey
where's
that
list
of
whatever
I
I'm
just
wondering.
Oh.
A
First
well,
in
the
paragraph
right
below
this,
it
says
the
county
and
APS
will
each
develop
their
own
Capital
facilities
needs
assessments
which
are
comprehensive
reviews
of
the
correct
facility
capacity
for
a
county
and
APS
Services
and
projected
service
demand
that
will
affect
facility
capacity.
County's
needs
assessment
report
is
it's
the
Arlington
Capital
facilities
needs
assessment?
E
So
if
you
actually
look
at,
there
is
a
really
thick
document.
It
used
to
be
on
paper.
I
actually
have
one
from
many
years
ago,
and
you
can
go
through
Department
by
Department
I.
Think
it's
actually
more
of
a
budget
book,
but
in
there's
somewhere,
where
some
sort
of
placeholders
I
don't
know.
If
you
know
maybe
I
should
find
it
and
for
a
future
conversation
you.
A
Do
I
do
think
that
that
well,
I
I
will
at
least
speak
for
the
ASAP
I
think
it
is
a
really
really
important
tool
and
it
sure
it
it
really
defines
what
we
have
or
you
know
what
we
as
a
what
APS
has
what
they
need.
You
know
it
compares
and
it
you
know
it
looks
at
it
both
in
the
short
term
and
in
the
long
term,
and
it
looks
at
growth.
A
It
looks
at
you
know,
and
you
know
when,
when
we
had
the
aps
staff
members
come
and
speak
to
us
about
the
the
ASAP
in
December
I
I.
Do
think
that
one
of
the
things
that's
really
important
too,
is
that
they
begin
to
kind
of
and
it
and
it
kind
of
lays
out,
and
it
puts
it
in
a
plan.
You
know
it's
and
I.
I
D
G
Go
through
A
needs
assessment,
they're
pulling
it
together
into
the
apps
app
and
apps
app
is
significantly
informing
the
development
of
the
CIP
and
I'm,
not
I.
Don't
think
that
on
the
county
side,
there's
really
a
logic
chain
like
that,
and
so
you've
got
like
Silo
based
individual
components
of
the
county,
maybe
say
well,
IV
against
Y
and
Z.
Another
component
in
complete
isolation
is
saying
and
I
need
a
b
and
c,
and
it
doesn't
appear
that
there's
a
mechanism
to
look
across
the
silos
and
do
kind
of
a
county-wide
facility
needs
yeah
yeah.
A
I
Oh
well,
we
can
keep
banging
our
head
up
against
the
wall
or
maybe
we
can
try
to
say.
Can
we
try
to
reach
down
and
get
some
of
the
planning
documents
that
are
in
these
silos
and
take
a
look
at
them?
Like
you
know,
is
it
the
painting,
Quality
Index
right
in
some
ways?
Is
that
a
long-term
planning
document
for
for
Paving
prioritization?
How
do
we
and
okay?
J
J
Just
remove
the
second
sentence,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
there
is
such
a
thing
as
the
Arlington
Capital
facilities
of
these
assessments,
okay
and
I-
think
we
can
change
the
sort
of
subject
of
the
next
Clause
to
you
know.
These
assessments
might
even
need
to
change
that.
One
too.
A
I
I
also
think
it's
really
important
that
you
know
the
you
know
the
county
and
APS.
You
know
they
have
they
have
so
they
have
quite
a
few
shared
projects
like
shared
sites
like
bring
up
the
Trade
Center
again,
you
know,
like
that's
a
site
that
Arlington
County
uses
and
APS
use
Park
buses.
So
what
happens
on
that
site?
These
needs
to
be
planned
to
together
jointly,
and
so
you
know
that
was
a
recommendation.
A
I
made
for
the
ASAP
like
to
include
include
a
section
that
has
joint
projects
or
buildings
that
have
like
Thomas,
Jefferson,
Middle
School,
that
has
a
community
center
in
it.
You
know
like
these
projects,
that
you
know,
share
HVAC
systems
or
that
may
need
cat
like
big
capital,
Improvement
projects,
or
you
know
part
you
know,
fields
on
you
know
at
schools
that
are
also
part
of
the
county.
A
If,
if
it
continues
to
to
you
know,
even
if
it
levels
off
now
at
some
point
even
or
drops
you
know
at
some
point,
it
will
grow
again.
You
know,
if
I,
you
know
world
population
not
involved,
we
will
need
you
know
the
aps.
Cannot
you
know
this
was
the
argument
when
we
were
facing.
You
know
huge
over
enrollment
numbers.
You
know
like
APS
cannot
solve
this
by
itself.
We
need
County
sites
to
do
it
as
well.
We'll
need
to
share
you
know
we
and
not.
A
Not
only
that
too,
we
share
a
you
know
a
10
percent
that
service
limit.
So
you
know
there
there
is
so
much
there's
so
much
that
planning
needs
that
collaborative
planning
needs
to
happen
and
that
the
Capital
Improvement
plan
is
actually
just
sort
of
implement.
You
know
like
that.
I
think
that
most
of
the
really
important
planning
and
the
really
important
determination
of
what
we
need,
what
APS
needs
to
build
and.
F
A
And
why
all
of
those
questions
are
answered
in
the
ASAP
and
then
you
figure
out
how
to
put
it
in
in
the
CIP
in
sort
of
a
financial
planning
document,
and
that
has
to
also
align
with
the
county
boards
priorities
too.
You
know
the
road,
you
know
pothole
repairs
and
sidewalks,
and
water
yeah,
storm
water,
and
you
know
other
other
important.
You
know
transportation
and
other
you
know
County
public
facilities.
F
J
J
What
might
we
be
interested
in
the
future,
but
also
I
mean
necessary
for
them
to
consider
what
would
sort
of
our
own
planning
look
like
without
that
sites,
as
part
of
the
menu
of
options
that
we
might
have
in
the
future,
I
think
it's
all
the
more
important
we
start
doing:
Corridor
level
planning
with
very
limited
spaces
already,
and
particularly
where
there
are
spaces
that
are
say
owned
by
one.
That
may
you
know,
be
kind
of
really
valuable
for
use
by
the
other
and
so
kind
of
helping
facilitate
those
conversations
yeah
exactly
so.
J
You
know
station
to
your
point,
not
just
like
during
the
CFE
process,
where
you
know,
someone
has
already
decided
what
their
priorities
are,
and
these
are
just
what
they
want
to
spend
money
on.
You
know
as
a
matter
of
most
urgency,
but
even
before
then
deciding
you
know
among
the
range
of
options
that
may
affect
the
choices.
That's
you
know
either
APS
or
the
county
has
based
on
what
the
other
does
and
it's
moving
forward
on.
It's
helpful
to
understand
those
opportunity
costs
all
around.
A
A
Okay,
so
Wells.
Let's
look
at
this
that
paragraph
in
three
again
and
I
appreciate
that
bringing
that
up,
because
I
do
think-
that's
really
important.
You
know,
as
I'm
sitting
here,
I
think
that
almost
said,
like
the
asset
and
having
the
county
you
know
have
something
similar
is,
is
really
kind
of
an
important
part
of
our
charge.
J
Yeah
I
think
that's
right,
I
think
it's
important
for
in
three
to
be
both
kind
of
better,
descriptive
and
more
prescriptive.
You
know
descriptive
in
the
sense
that,
like
we
haven't
had
an
asset
in
you
know
a
one
year
timetable,
and
so
what
years
you
know
we're
not
even
sure
if
the
county
document
that's
referred
to,
there
kind
of
even
exists,
or
if
it's
more
just
an
individual
departments,
survey
responses
to
for
these
assessments.
J
J
F
A
All
right,
let's
see
what
our,
where
we
are
on
our
agenda,
all
right!
Well,
I!
Guess:
since
we
don't
have
a
corn,
then
we
will
continue
to
work
on
this
Charter
and
hopefully
we'll
have
a
quorum
in
February
and
do
we
have
any
other
public
comment.
D
Yes,
yes,
hi
I'm,
Bill
Roos,
so
at
the
November
16
jfact
meeting
commissioner
Claire
Nokes
mentioned
that
Arlington
is
going
to
be
facing
some
constraints
due
to
the
capacity
limits
of
the
electrical
grid,
and
she
suggested
that
the
county
and
APS
and
jfac
need
to
think
more
deeply
about
the
electrical
load
capacity
of
the
county.
D
So
I
know
there
was
some
discussion
in
this
meeting
about
the
electrical
vehicle
charging
infrastructure
and
that
commissioner
noakes
might
be
doing
a
report
on
that.
But
as
far
as
the
overall,
you
know
issue
that
commissioner
noakes
referred
to,
that
is
the
constraints
on
the
capacity
limits
of
our
electric
grid.
Is
that
something
are
we
going
to
hear
more
about
that
is
jfact
going
to
look
into
that
or
or
where?
Where
are
we
going
on
that?
Thank
you.
I
Is
that
your
statement
so
yeah,
thanks
for
following
up
on
that?
My
understanding-
and
this
is
somewhat
based
on
conversations
that
are
being
held
within
the
energy
committee-
that
reports
to
the
c2e2
commission
that
there
are
open
questions
as
we
try
to
decarbonize,
especially
transportation,
but
also
decarbonize
our
buildings,
whether
Dominion,
who
has
the
Monopoly
power
for
transmission
and
distribution.
So
we're
not
talking
about
generation,
we're
talking
about
transmission
and
distribution,
you
know
they
will
have
to
ramp
up
development.
I
You
know
an
installation
of
substations
and
Transformers
and
what
you
end
up
hearing
and
it's
an
open
question,
but
some
people
believe
that
we
are
going
to
start
running
into
costs
and
space
issues.
As
you,
try
to
you
know,
put
up
a
huge
building
and
do
they
need
a
lot
of
EV
charging
in
the
parking
garage
and
okay.
We
need
a
substation.
Where
are
we
going
to
put
the
substation?
Are
we
going
to
try
to
put
it
and
take
away
a
pocket
park
in
order
to
build
it
like?
I
So
these
are
some
of
these
longer
term
questions
and
and
I
I
do
think
that
it
is
within
a
you
know.
I
Is
reasonable
to
talk
you
know
to
for
us
to
start
talking
about
because
of
the
space
constraints
and
because
of
the
the
term
of
of
this
process,
so
I
don't
know
that
we
have
anything
concrete,
but
this
is
part
also
of
out
of
the
box.
Thinking
of
what
is
a
public
facility,
and
you
know
adequate
charging
infrastructure,
that's
not
something
that
anyone
would
have
probably
put
as
a
public
facility
when
we
when
we
started
but
see
it
is
one
now.
A
Got
I
think
you
know
there
is
so
much
overlap
and
that
I
will
continue
to
emphasize
that
our
you
know
that
are
our
main
focus
is
on
long-range
planning,
collaborative
long-range
planning,
but
I
do
think
that
that
you
know
electrical.
You
know
our
electrical
grid
fits
into
this
collaborative
long-range
planning.
You
know
not
just
public
facilities,
but
also
transportation
and
also
parks,
and
you
know
how
it
all
fits
together.
It's
not
you
know
it's
not
siled,
you
know
it.
It
can't
be.
A
You
know
it
there's,
but
I
will
say
that
one
of
the
you
know
a
couple
of
ideas
have
come
up.
You
know
we're
still
trying
to
get.
You
know,
feedback
from
you
know
our
our
board
Liaisons,
but
you
know
where
you
know.
A
One
of
one
idea
that
has
come
up
that
we
could
potentially
work
on
is
the
alignment
you
know
the
county
has
clean
energy
goals
of
2050
and
how
does
that
align
with
APS
and
sort
of
work
on
like
sort
of
focus
on
a
smaller
question
in
in
that
like
bringing
those
together?
Are
there
you
know
facility
needs
that
would
need
to
be
put
in
place.
Are
there
you
know
what
what
would
you
know?
What
is
the
back
and
forth
with
you
know,
County
infrastructure
that
would
need
to
be.
A
You
know
considered
as
well.
So
that's
sort
of
it's.
You
know.
You
know
that.
That's
an
idea.
Another
idea
we
had
was
looking
at
parking.
You
know,
or
you
know,
the
issue
came
up,
it's
Heights
Building
I,
don't
want
it
to
be
about
a
specific
building.
A
I
don't
want
to
get
I,
don't
want
to
be
a
you
know,
blpc
or
pfrc
for
a
specific
site,
but
you
know
at
the
Heights
Building
I'll
just
use
that
as
an
example,
the
county
had
certain
ideas
about
what
they
their
expectations
were
for
parking
and
APS
had
a
different
idea
about
what
their
expectations
were
for
parking
and
both
were
found.
They
just
weren't
aligned.
So
you
know
I.
Think
kind
of
that
is
a
role
that
that
we
could
play.
A
I
A
G
You
know
this
also
triggers
me
the
think
back
to
the
decisions.
Matrix
concept
that
you
know,
an
area
where,
possibly
we
could
add
value,
would
be
a
healthy
to
develop
kind
of
a
set
of
parameters
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
that
we
would
recommend
be
considered
where
the
grid,
the
you
know,
power
infrastructure
might
be
one
dimension
of
that.
G
Forgive
me
for
using
the
buzz
phrase
by
resilience.
We
haven't
really
talked
about
resilience,
but
if
you
try
to
look
at
facilities
from
a
resilience
LEDs,
for
example,
what
if
there
was
a
disaster
and
all
of
a
sudden
we
needed
to
house
a
bunch
of
people?
G
I
Just
using
that
the
county
just
finished
resiliency
plan
and
they
are
making
that
public.
A
Mix
I
mean
I,
I.
Think
there's
you
know
in
my
mind,
there's
two
ways
of
looking
at
it
like
there's
the
really
big
picture,
there's
that
long-range
planning,
where
we're
really
pulling
all
of
that
together
we're
seeing
these
threads
and
we're
pulling
them
together
and
like
oh,
this
fits
here.
This
fits
here.
This
needs
to
be
thought
about.
Let's
you
know
communicate
that
to
the
public.
A
B
A
Short
of
that,
we
can
focus
I,
think
on
on
the
things
like
the
alignment
between
schools.
You
know
kind
of
to
take
these
smaller
bites
and
and
sort
of
work
towards.
You
know
work
towards
a
bigger
picture.
You
know
try
to
find
these
connected
Goods
that
we
have
been
doing
for
the
last
couple
years,
like
with
these
public
private
partnership.
A
The
schools
in
sector
plans,
the
you
know,
which
I
the
missing
middle
research
that
we
did,
which
I
think
is
really
interesting,
which
also
sort
of
pointed
to
again.
You
know
these
these
localities
doing
you
know
looking
Visionary
thinking
planning,
for
you
know,
40
50
years
ahead
or
20
30
years
ahead.