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From YouTube: Beau Phillips on "I Killed Pink Floyd's Pig"
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Author, former radio programmer and MTV Networks executive Beau Phillips discusses his book, "I Killed Pink Floyd's Pig: Inside Stories of Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll". The program was recorded at the Arlington Public Library on Jan. 15 2015. "I Killed Pink Floyd's Pig" is available at the Arlington Public Library, in bookstores and from online retailers.
A
Good
evening,
hello
arlington,
as
they
say
in
the
rock
and
roll
businesses
son
thanks
for
coming
I'll,
make
this
really
short
and
sweet.
I
know
you're
all
here
to
hear
from
beau
everything
that
you
didn't
see
on
WKRP
and,
as
you
can
see
from
the
cameras
we're
taping
this
tonight
for
Arlington
TV
and
it's
real
important
when
we
get
to
the
Q&A.
A
B
It's
midnight
in
the
san
francisco
international
airport
and
I
had
had
a
brutal
week
of
working
in
the
bay
area
and
I
just
couldn't
wait
to
spill
myself
onto
the
airplane
and
sleep
all
the
way
across
the
country.
So
I
treated
myself
to
a
first-class
ticket.
I
cashed
in
some
miles.
All
that
was
available
was
a
red-eye
flight,
so
I
board
the
flight
at
midnight.
I
throw
my
bag
in
the
bin,
I
grab
a
pillow
and
a
blanket
and
I
curl
up
against
the
window.
Just
wanting
to
fall
asleep.
B
In
fairness,
under
the
lights
of
the
airplanes,
fluorescent
lights
at
12,
midnight
Keith
looked
a
little
bit
more
like
this,
but
I
looked
at
him
and
he
gave
me
this
look
like
don't
even
think
about
it
and
I
thought:
okay,
I'm,
exhausted
I'm,
just
gonna
lay
down
and
sleep
anyway,
so
plane
takes
off
all
the
lights
go
off
on
the
plane
except
Keith.
This
is
Keith's
time
of
night.
B
Keith
is
a
party
animal,
so
while
everybody
else
is
sleeping,
he
has
the
flight
attendant
hopping
and
bringing
drinks
to
him
all
the
time
and
after
a
few
drinks,
I
hear
this.
I'm
Keith
and
I
went
all
right
nice
to
meet
you.
I
wake
up
a
nice
to
meet
you
and
he
started
chatting
and
he
turned
out
to
be
just
a
wonderfully
charming
engaged.
B
I
would
go
out
there
and
play
with
anybody
on
any
day
and
we
had
a
wonderful
time
chatting
and
I
learned
a
lot
about
him-
he's
the
least
pretentious
rock
star
you
can
possibly
imagine
he
does
it
for
all
the
right
reasons
by
all
rights.
He
should
be
dead
several
times
over
right
now,
and
he
even
admits
that
his
autobiography,
but
really
is
one
of
the
biggest
in
the
land.
So
we're
flying
and
we're
about
a
half
an
hour
outside
of
JFK
and
he
says
bo.
B
Do
me
a
favor
and
walk
off
the
plane
with
me,
I,
said
sure,
we're
pals,
of
course,
so
the
plane
lands
everybody
gets
off,
Keith
grabs
his
fur
coat
and
his
cane
and
we're
last
off
the
plane
and
as
we're
walking
down
the
terminal.
I
said
what's
what's
going
on
and
he
said
well
whenever
I
travel,
somebody
sees
me
get
on
a
plane
and
they
put
the
word
out
to
stones.
B
B
So
lo
and
behold
we're
heading
to
the
terminal
and
years
about
15
people,
all
holding
guitars,
free
and
sharpies
for
him
to
autograph,
so
Keith
walks
up
to
the
first
one
in
these
shakes
hands
and
how
you
doing
he's
signing
and
he's
taken
the
next
guitar
and
signing,
and
we
get
down
to
the
last
person
I
look
over
his
shoulder
and
I
see
that
he's
signing
the
guitar,
but
he's
not
signing
his
name.
He's
signing
my
name
so
I
kind
of
whisk
him
away
and
head
him
towards
his
driver.
B
I
said
what
are
you
doing
and
he
says
those
people
don't
care
about
me:
they're,
not
a
fan
of
The
Rolling
Stones.
There
are
people
who
want
my
autograph
so
that
they
can
sell
it
on
eBay.
He
goes
so
I
figure
screw
I
travel
and
I
find
someone
like
you
and
I
asked
them
to
come
off
the
plane
with
me,
like
I
did
with
you
and
whoever
I
happened
to
be
standing
with.
That's
the
name
I
signed
so
somewhere
out
there.
B
B
That
was
really
extraordinary
and
he
is
truly
someone
that
is
forever
young,
at
least
on
the
inside
Keith
turned
72
on
Saturday,
but
I'd
like
to
take
you
back
to
a
time
when
air
was
clean
and
gas
was
cheap
and
michael
jackson
was
black
and
Saturday.
Night
Live
was
funny
a
time
when
disco
sucked
at
a
time
when
rock
was
great.
There
was
really
a
special
window
for
whatever
reason
in
time.
It
never
happened
before,
and
it
has
will
never
happen
again.
B
Then
you
have
you
know
the
van
halen's
and
the
Eagles
and
the
bends
like
Rush
and
Pat
Benatar
and
Bon
Jovi
and
def
leppard,
and
they
were
coming
in
absolute
torrents.
It
was
a
fire
hose
of
amazing
music
by
amazing
artists.
I
happen
to
be
working
at
one
of
the
more
influential
rock
stations
in
the
country
was
in
Seattle
and
I
was
one
of
about
maybe
15
or
20
program
directors
of
the
radio
station.
That
really
had
a
lot
to
say
with
what
music
got
played
and
which
bands
broke.
Because
remember.
B
This
is
a
time
before
Pandora
before
siriusxm
before
iPods
and
file
sharing.
This
was
a
time
that,
if
you're
a
fan
of
music,
you
got
it
from
the
radio,
and
many
of
you
grew
up,
probably
listening
to
some
really
extraordinary
radio
stations,
where
you
really
felt
a
connection
that
they
was
that
they
were
actually
turning
you
on
to
really
interesting
music.
But
these
bands
came
at
a
time
where
you
could
not
get
out
of
the
way
of
the
great
music.
B
At
the
same
time,
we
had
a
phenomenon
called
record
stores
where
you
could
actually
spend
some
time
pawing
through
the
bins
and
finding
music
that
you
might
like.
There
were
record
labels
that
had
money
and
supported
their
artists
and
put
them
out
on
the
road
where
you
could
go
see.
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
stories
have
seen
great
bands
for
five
bucks
at
some
point
in
here.
You
know
in
you
know,
in
your
life,
then
there
were
the
concert.
B
Promoters
were
all
based
locally
and
we
were
kind
of
a
band
of
people
that
brought
music
to
town.
But
radio
was
the
mouthpiece.
Radio
was
the
way
that
people
heard
about
the
show's
heard
about
the
music
drove
people
to
the
record
stores,
but
there
was
a
very
special
coming
together
of
all
of
these
people
at
the
same
time
as
the
music
was
absolutely
soaring,
and
that
was
a
window
that
unfortunately,
never
really
will
exist
again.
B
But
during
that
time,
because
I
ran
a
radio
station
that
had
some
influence,
bands
knew
that
and
when
they
were
touring
and
came
through
town,
they
made
a
point
of
coming
to
my
radio
station.
Asking
me
to
go
backstage
afterwards,
go
to
their
hotel
room
for
a
party,
sometimes
getting
on
a
bus
or
a
private
plane
with
them.
I
was
nobody.
Special
I
was
a
fly
on
the
wall.
I
didn't
have
any
delusions
that
these
people
liked
me
for
me.
They
liked
me
because
of
what
I
could
do
and
when
they
invited
me
places.
B
I
was
only
too
happy
to
say
sure
that
sounds
like
a
lot
of
fun.
Lots
of
people
have
met
a
lot
of
the
people
that
I've
met,
but
for
whatever
reason
there
was
when
I
was
together
with
him.
Crazy
happened
and
I'll
start
with
this.
One
The
Beatles
stayed
in
a
hotel
in
Seattle
called
the
Edgewater
Hotel
in
the
60s
mid-60s,
and
the
edgewater
hotel
is
built
out
over
Seattle's
Puget
Sound
on
a
pier,
and
they
had
a
campaign
where
you
could
actually
fish
from
your
window.
B
They
had
a
tackle
and
bait
and
tackle
shop
inside
the
lobby,
where
you
could
rent
a
pole
and
get
bait
fish
in
your
window
and
there's
famous
pictures
of
beetles
actually
fishing,
but
not
catching
anything.
Led
Zeppelin
caught
a
fish
when
they
stayed
there
in
1969,
and
those
of
you
who
were
nodding
right
now
know
that
I'm
not
going
to
go
down
that
road
and
tell
the
mud
shark
story.
But
if
you
want
a
google
led
zeppelin,
the
mud
shark,
it
was
so
heinous
that
it
got.
B
Led
Zeppelin
kicked
out
of
the
hotel
for
life
and
they
shut
in
the
bait
and
tackle
shop.
It
was
that
bad,
a
friend
of
mine,
was
the
manager
of
the
Edgewater
Hotel
and
told
me
that
what
people
never
found
out
is
that
several
years
later
led
zeppelin
check
back
into
the
hotel
in
the
dead
of
night.
This
is
a
time
long
before
online
reservations.
B
It
was
at
a
time
when
you
could
call
yourself
Joe
Smith
and
get
a
reservation
into
the
hotel.
My
friend,
the
manager
gets
into
the
hotel
into
the
Edgewater,
and
he
says
he
he
says:
who
are
these
kind
of
scraggly
looking
people
running
through
the
hallway
and
he
checks
the
register
and
finds
out
that
lo
and
behold
at
three
in
the
morning,
led
zeppelin
had
checked
in
so
he
calls
up
one's
manager
and
he
says
they'll
welcome
back
to
the
edgewater.
B
If
there's
anything
I
can
do
just,
let
me
know,
obviously
what
he
was
really
saying
is.
I
know
you
snuck
back
into
the
hotel
and
my
eye
is
on.
You
led
zeppelin
stayed
at
the
edgewater
for
two
pretty
uneventful
days
and
nights,
but
when
they
were
checking
out
my
friend
the
manager
calls
the
head
of
housekeeping
and
said
how
do
their
rooms
look?
She
cuzzo.
The
rooms
are
great,
you
know
they
didn't
fish.
There's
no
problem
except
all
of
the
TVs
are
gone,
so
he
says
stay
there
and
he
runs
down.
B
The
hall
opens
the
first
door
and
lo
and
behold
the
TV's
gone
and
the
drapes
are
blowing,
so
he
pulls
back.
The
drapes
looks
out
the
window
and
there's
not
one
but
five
TVs
bobbing
in
Puget
Sound.
So
he
goes
back
to
the
front
desk
and
here
comes
Richard.
Cole
led
zeppelin's
road
manager
to
check
out,
and
my
friend
the
manager
goes.
Mr.
Cole
ten
rooms,
the
bills
three
thousand
dollars,
Richard
Cole
the
manager
reaches
in
his
pocket,
pulls
out
a
huge
role
of
hundreds
and
he
peels
off
30
and
pays
the
hotel
bill.
B
So
my
friend
is
thinking
that
went
pretty
well.
Mr.
Cole
I
also
have
to
charge
you
for
those
TVs
that
you
threw
out
mr.
Cole
chuckles.
It
goes.
How
many
did
they
toss
and
he
says
well
five
and
at
five
hundred
bucks
each
you
owe
me
another
2,500
bucks
reaches
back
in
his
pocket,
pulls
out
roll
again
peels
off
25
mo
who
carries
fifty
five
hundred
dollar
bill
pays
the
bill
as
he's
ready
to
leave
as
a
desk
clerk
standing
right
there,
who's
watching
this
whole
thing
go
down,
and
he
says
mr.
B
Cole
I'd
always
heard
that
led
zeppelin
had
a
reputation
for
trashing
hotel
rooms
and
throwing
TVs,
but
I
didn't
really
believe
it.
He
goes.
You
got
to
tell
me
what
does
it
feel
like
to
unplug
the
TV
from
the
wall?
Lift
it
up
open
the
window,
toss
it
into
the
water.
Richard
Cole
looks
at
the
kid
and
he
goes
kid.
You
know
there's
some
things
in
life.
You
just
have
to
experience
for
yourself.
B
It
reaches
in
his
pocket
peels
off
five,
more
hundred
dollar
bills
and
hands
them
to
the
desk
clerk
and
says
kid
go
toss
a
TV
courtesy
of
Led
Zeppelin,
and
that
was
the
crazy
stuff
that
happened.
That
was
really
just
the
the
mind-bending
things
that
happen,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about
tonight
is
for
some
extraordinary
reason.
This
music
is
being
handed
down
and
I
see
people.
My
age
and
I
see
people
younger,
and
that's
really.
B
My
point
is
that
for
the
first
time
in
history,
this
music
is
being
handed
down
to
the
next
generation.
My
mom
and
dad
grew
up
with
Sinatra
and
Elvis
and
Broadway
show
tunes
and
I
always
thought
that
was
fine,
but
it
never
became
my
music.
This
music
is
being
embraced
by
younger
people
and
there's
a
couple
of
reasons
for
it
and
I
think
it
largely
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
this
was
brilliant
music,
we're
not
just
old
farts,
who
are
saying
we
were.
We
grew
up
in
a
special
time.
B
It
was
a
special
time
and
the
music
was
powerful
and
music
had
something
to
say:
artists
actually
wrote
their
own
music,
they
played
their
own
instruments,
they
didn't
have
auto-tune
that
they
didn't
have.
You
know
computerized
drums,
they
were
real
singers
and
real
writers
and
real
performers
and
real
talent.
B
So
it's
really
been
an
extraordinary
phenomenon
and
my
theory
is
that
it
started
like
a
lot
of
things
did
with
the
Beatles,
because
the
Beatles
not
only
affected
everybody's
fashion
and
hair,
but
they
also
started
people
interested
in
playing
guitar
and
all
of
a
sudden
music
stores
popped
up
there
really
weren't
music
store
as
much
before
the
Beatles
people.
You
know
kids
started
forming
their
own
bands,
I
mean
it
really
gave
rise
to
a
tremendous
amount,
but
more
than
anything,
listening
to
a
beetle
album
was
an
experience.
B
It
was
something
you
could
share
with
your
friends.
You
could
look
at
the
pictures.
You
could
read
the
lyrics.
It
became
something
that
was
was
really
remarkable.
It
was.
It
was
an
experience
that
created
lifetime
allegiances
with
with
bands
like
that,
we
also
knew
the
band's
names
we
knew
who
the
members
were.
We
knew
what
instruments
they
played
and
speaking
of
instruments
and
artisan
who
played
and
people
who
are
in
famous
bands
you
may
know
you
may
recognize
this
guy.
B
Can
you
help
and
I
always
try
to,
but
this
call
came
in
from
a
19
year
old
young
woman
named
Kelly,
who
was
suffering
from
brain
cancer
and
Kelly's
one
wish
was
to
meet
Paul
McCartney
I
mean
couldn't
you
ask
for
somebody
bigger
for
God's
sake,
so
I
reached
out
to
Paul's
management,
company
and
record
label
and
said
we
have
an
unusual
request,
Paul's
going
out
on
tour.
Can
you
spare
a
few
minutes
to
meet
her
and
the
answer
came
back
from
everybody
asked
we're
really
sorry,
but
this
is
Paul's.
B
First
american
tour
since
John
Lennon's
been
killed
and
he
really
doesn't
want
to
expose
himself
at
all
so
he's
going
to
play.
His
shows
he's
going
to
go
back
to
the
hotel,
he's
gonna
go
to
the
airport
and
fly
on
he's,
not
doing
any
press
he's
not
meeting
anybody.
Please
tell
her
that
we
respectfully
just
can't
so
I
went
back
and
told
Kelly
and
her
mom.
That
I
tried
it's
just
not
going
to
happen.
Is
there
anything
else?
I
can
do
for
you
and
they
went
no,
that's
really
all
she
wanted
and
it
broke.
B
My
heart
and
I
didn't
mean
to
do
it,
but
I
played
a
card
that
I
I
didn't
want
to
play
and
I
called
Paul's
people
back
and
I
said
you
know:
Paul
has
a
19
year
old
daughter,
named
Stella
who's,
a
famous
fashion
designer
now
and
she's
perfectly
healthy.
Can
you
imagine
the
horror
of
having
a
19
year
old
daughter,
that's
not
healthy.
That
has
three
months
to
live
and
her
only
wish
is
to
meet
Paul
McCartney.
B
Can
he
please
just
shake
her
hand
and
spend
a
minute
with
her
and
a
couple
of
days
later
they
came
back
and
said:
okay,
he
will
but
there's
one
condition
and
the
condition
is
nobody
can
know.
Paul
isn't
doing
this
for
credit.
He
doesn't
want
the
press
to
know
he
doesn't
want
anybody
reporting
on
it,
he's
doing
it
because
he's
a
dad.
He
cares.
B
It's
just
chairs,
except
for
the
band,
is
warming
up
on
stage
and
we
get
walked
way
back
into
the
bowels
of
the
building
into
this
green
room
and
we're
sitting
there
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
curtain
parts
and
here's
Paul
and
he
says
Kelly
and
he
comes
walking
towards
her
and
Kelly
stands
up
to
shake
his
hand
and
he
brushes
by
her
arm
and
hugs
her
and
Linda
hugs.
Her
and
Linda
had
brought
a
stuffed
bear
for
Kelly
that
she
gave
to
them
now.
B
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
met
famous
celebrities,
sports
stars
or
whatever
you
have
a
chance
to
do
a
meet
and
greet,
but
usually
it's
a
hi,
hello,
nice
to
meet
you.
Let's
take
a
picture
and
then
the
next
people
come
in
and
I
thought.
If
that's
what
we
had
to
deal
with,
that's
what
we
had
to
deal
with
after
all
of
his
Paul
McCartney.
B
But
what
Paul
did
is
he
sat
down
on
one
side
of
Kelly
and
Linda
sat
down
on
the
other
and
they
talked
to
her
for
a
half
an
hour
and
they
told
her
jokes.
They
told
her
how
pretty
she
looked,
even
though
she
had
no
hair
and
had
bought
a
new
beret
and
a
noob
dress,
and
they
made
her
laugh
and
they
talked
about
peace
and
they
looked
her
right
in
the
eye
and
she
was
just
completely
and
on
I
look
over
it
at
Kelly's.
B
B
Thanks
have
a
good
time,
I'm
going
to
leave
now
so
as
everybody's
shaking
hands
and
saying
goodbye,
Paul
go
so
we're
not
done
yet,
and
he
leads
us
out
into
the
kingdom
and
walks
us
over
to
these
merchandise
tables
and
he
said,
are
you
about
a
medium
and
he's
grabbing
stacks
of
shirts
stacks
of
sweatshirts
and
jackets
and
ball
caps?
I
mean
she's
like
buckling
under
the
weight
of
all
this
stuff.
He
says
now
follow
me
and
he
sits
us
right
here.
B
Are
you
am
I
going
to
see
you
at
the
show
tonight
and
she
said
well,
it
was
sold
out,
I
didn't
get
a
chance,
we
couldn't
get
tickets
and
he
said,
let
me
take
care
of
that.
He
reaches
in
his
pocket
and
he
pulls
out
three
laminated
passes.
He
goes
we're
going
to
put
three
chairs
on
the
soundboard,
which
is
right
and
where
the
sound
is
the
best
in
the
middle
of
the
venue
and
you're
my
guest
tonight
and
then
away,
he
went
and
we
stood
there
in
the
parking
lot
looking
at
each
other
afterwards.
B
B
You
meet
that
are
just
so
remarkable
when
you
meet
them
in
person,
but
Paul
couldn't
have
been
more
of
a
hero,
and
this
is
a
picture
that
was
taken
of
Paul
with
Kelly,
so
a
pretty
special
guy.
Interestingly,
the
top
10
albums
of
all
time
probably
won't.
Surprise
you
it's
the
Beatles,
it's
a
pink
floyd,
Led,
Zeppelin,
ACDC,
Fleetwood
Mac
and
the
number
one
record
of
all
time.
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
this
is
the
Eagles
greatest
hits.
This
is
joe
walsh
of
the
eagles.
B
Joe
walsh
is
the
Clown
Prince
of
music
when
the
when
the
Eagles
broke
up
in
1980
they
took
a
hiatus
Joe
like
Keith
Richards
is
very
childlike
loves
to
play,
will
play
anywhere.
He
joined
a
punk
band
in
Australia
for
a
while,
just
because
he
wanted
to
play,
but
Joe
is
an
absolute
kick
he's
a
sweetheart
of
a
guy
from
Cleveland
Ohio
who
no
matter
whether
he's
feeling
good
or
bad,
has
a
smile
on
his
face
and
will
welcome
you
with
how
you
doin
that's
Joe's,
Whole
signature
line,
how
you
doing
I
had
the
idea.
B
One
time
at
my
radio
station
I
was
my
afternoon
show
had
gone
on
vacation
for
a
week
and
I
needed
something
for
that
week
and
I
had
the
weird
idea
to
put
a
celebrity
in
there,
and
somebody
said
you
know:
Joe
Walsh
wants
to
do
radio
I
thought.
Well,
that
would
be
fun
so
I
called
his
manager
and
I
said.
Look
I
need
someone
to
do
the
afternoon.
Show
would
Joe
be
interested
and
he
goes
well.
Let
me
ask
him
he
goes.
He
goes.
How
much
can
you
pay
I
said?
B
Well,
I'll
pay
him
ten
thousand
dollars
and
and
he'll
come
in
and
do
the
whole
show
and
then,
on
the
last
day,
he'll
do
a
concert
for
our
listeners
and
he
was
okay.
Let
me
talk
to
jojo's
all
for
it.
So
Joe
comes
to
town
and
I.
Call
a
friend
of
mine
who's
at
the
Sheraton
and
I
said:
I
need
a
couple:
hotel
rooms
for
some
people
that
were
bringing
in
and
the
names
are
Joe
Walsh
on
his
manager,
and
she
goes
is
this
the
Joe,
Walsh
and
I
said
yeah.
B
B
Manager
come
to
town
and
I,
introduce
him
around
the
radio
station
and
take
him
over
to
the
share
and
they
get
checked
into
these
beautiful
suites
and
Joe
I'll
spare
you
the
details,
but
Joe
is
a
lot
of
fun
and
in
the
book
I
talk
about
the
types
of
crazy
things
that
he
was
doing
as
a
disc
jockey
on
the
air
planes,
including
insisting
for
the
artist
that
he
doesn't
like
to
play
them
the
song
the
same
time
as
another
artist.
So
it
goes
by
faster.
B
So
at
the
end
of
the
the
week
that
Joe
was
there,
he
plays
a
wonderful
concert
for
for
the
radio
station
and
then
a
few
days
later,
I
get
a
call
from
the
sheraton
saying.
Well,
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
Joe's
bill?
I
said:
what
do
you
mean
Joe's
bill
I
thought
you
said
it
was
free
and
they
said
well
know
the
rules
free,
but
he
has
incidental
charges
and
I
said
all
right.
What
are
we
looking
at?
She
goes
well,
ten
thousand
dollars.
Is
it
ten
thousand
dollars?
She
says
he.
He.
C
B
The
pillow
cases,
the
blankets,
the
draperies,
the
shower
curtain.
Anything
that
could
be
cut
in
strips
was
cut
in
strips
and
Joe
left
it
in
the
giant.
Mound
is
kind
of
like
his
leaving
his
mark,
you
know,
but
Joe
you
may
know,
is
also
famous
for
traveling
with
a
a
chainsaw
and
a
guitar
case,
and
if
he
didn't
like
the
room
he
was
in,
he
would
just
kind
of.
A
B
The
wall
and
create
an
adjoining
suite
so
I
think
I
got
off
lucky
with
just
having
to
replace
him
some
stuff,
but
I
called
his
manager
and
I
said.
You
can't
stick
me
with
a
ten
thousand
dollar
bill
and
he
goes
oh
no
I
won't
just
send
it
to
me
will
pay
it.
I
said
I
just
paid
Joe
ten
grand
to
come
for
a
week
and
you're
just
wiping
all
that
away
on
booze
and
fabric,
and
he
goes
yeah
well
what
he
owes
welcome
to
my
life.
B
That's
what
these
guys
are
like
they
get
bored
on
the
road
and
they
try
to
find
stupid
things
to
do
and
whether
it's
throwing
TVs
or
shredding
hotel
rooms.
That's
kind
of
you
know
what
happens
to
them.
It
was
about
that
time
that
I
left
radio
I
went
to
New
York
and
I
was
a
head
of
marketing
at
mtv
networks,
and
we
did
a
ton
of
research
to
try
to
find
what
it
is.
That
gets.
B
People
excited,
/,
tickly
adults
excited
about
watching
music
on
TV,
and
we
found
the
obvious
is
that
people
like
to
get
closer
to
their
artists.
They
like
to
know
more
about
them,
they
like
to
get
behind
the
music
and
when
I
was
there,
it
was
at
a
time
when
vh1
created
shows
like
this.
That
got
you
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
your
favorite
bands.
You
know
was
it
was
the
bass
player.
You
know
the
limo
driver
in
that
video.
B
You
know,
that's
what
led
to
a
TV
show
called
pop
up
videos
that
you
might
have
heard
of
behind
the
music.
It
was
remarkable
behind
the
music
track,
the
rise
and
fall
of
artists
careers,
and
they
always
have
the
same
pattern.
They
start
up
here.
The
drummer
dies,
the
lead
singer
has
a
heroin
problem,
something
like
that
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
they
find
their
way
back,
and
we
were
doing
shows
about.
B
You,
know
great
superstar
artists
and
an
artist
like
Donny
and
Marie
and
vanilla
ice
and
and
milli
vanilli,
just
because
they
all
made
for
such
interesting
television.
But
it
made
me
realize
that
there
is
a
hunger
that
people
of
our
generation
love
to
get
behind
the
music
and
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
their
favorite
artists,
and
it
make
emotional
connection
with
the
artists
that
you
grew
up
with
and
loved
I
had
an
opportunity.
B
Speaking
of
emotional
connection,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
song
tears
in
heaven
from
eric
clapton-
and
you
probably
know
some
of
the
story
that
it's
about
the
death
of
his
four-year-old
son,
Connor
and
I'll-
skip
over
most
of
it.
But
Connor
ran
out
the
52nd
floor
window
of
a
high-rise
in
Manhattan.
He
was
playing
and
went
right
over
the
railing
and
Clapton
walked
into
the
hotel
room
and
found
out
from
the
boy's
mother
that
his
son
had
just
fallen
to
his
death.
B
That's
why
he
was
coming
to
get
him
and
he
was
devastated
by
that,
and
it
led
to
the
writing
of
the
song
tears
in
heaven
and
when
Clapton
decided
to
go
out
on
tour.
My
radio
station
got
together
and
I
said.
Look
I
said
this
is
a
guy
who's
doing
the
hardest
thing
that
a
father
can
do.
I
mean
to
write
a
song
about
the
death
of
your
son
is
hard
enough,
but
to
perform
it
every
night
in
front
of
a
live
audience
has
to
be
just
brutally
difficult.
B
So
when
he
comes
to
town,
let's
not
do
a
stupid
contest
or
we're
giving
away
tickets
to
the
10th
caller
or
we're
giving
away
an
autographed,
guitar
or
the
type
of
stuff
that
radio
stations
always
do.
I
said,
let's
do
something
more
meaningful:
let's
honor
the
fact
that
he's
one
of
the
greats
who
just
went
through
some
horror
but
he's
here,
sharing
it
with
us.
What
can
we
do
so.
B
And
it
was
difficult
task
to
do
to
get
16,000
17,000
people
to
all
do
that,
but
at
the
night
of
the
show.
But
we
had
people
kind
of
stationed
all
around
the
venue
and
they
were
handing
out
lighters
to
people
as
they
were
going
in
well.
But
halfway
through
the
show
Clapton
sets
aside
his
electric
guitar
picks
up
his
acoustic
and
there's
a
single
light.
Shining
on
a
stool
right
over
the
center
and
everybody
in
the
venue
knew
what
was
coming
next,
so
Clapton
sits
down
and
he's
playing.
B
B
And
you
could
tell
that
he
was
moved
because
when
he
started
the
song
and
started
singing
the
song,
his
voice,
cracked
and
he
got
all
lost
in
the
beginning
of
the
song
and
I
told
my
staff
afterwards,
that
everybody
who
was
in
that
venue
that
night
and
saw
that
years
from
now
we'll
hear
tears
in
heaven
come
across
the
radio
or
at
a
party
or
a
club.
And
though
you
know,
I
was
there
a
night
where
I
saw
her.
B
I
clapped
and
do
that
and
here's
the
emotional
connection
that
I
have
with
that
guy
I,
don't
think
that
happens
with
Katy
Perry
I,
don't
think
that
happens
with
Taylor
so
and
I
think
Taylor
Swift's
phenomenal
by
the
way
I've
met
her
in
a
scene
or
several
times
tremendous
talent,
but
I,
don't
think
that
you're
going
to
be
seeing
people
where
you
know
Justin
Bieber
t-shirts
15
years
from
now,
but
they
still
wear
this
with
pride
and
I.
Think
that's
guys,
like
Clapton,
who
have
that
kind
of
emotional
depth
that
make
it
special.
B
It
also
speaks
to
the
healing
power
of
music
and
that's
kind
of
a
recurring
theme.
Tonight
is
it
there
is
a
redemptive
power
that
energizes.
You
ensues
you
with
music,
but
what's
changed
now?
Why
is
it
different
now,
I
think
it's
changed
on
all
kinds
of
levels
and
it
starts
with
the
fans.
You
know
we
come
from
a
generation
where
we
would
listen
to
albums.
Nobody
puts
out
albums
anymore.
Nobody
listens
two
albums
anymore:
we
live
in
a
singles
world.
We
live
in
an
itune
in
this
world.
B
People
don't
have
the
attention
to
sit
through
albums.
You
know
on
the
younger
generation
and
you
know,
and
how
many
years
did
we
buy
albums,
where
you
spend
ten
bucks
and
find
an
album
with
two
good
songs?
The
record
industry
has
changed,
but
I
think
that
fans
attention
span
have
changed.
Youtube
is
now
the
new
MTV
there's
very
little
artist
loyalty.
If
an
artist.
B
B
Music
has
really
become
less
genuine,
I
appeal
and
more
supported
by
effects
and
and,
like
I,
said
auto-tune
and
drum
machines
and
the
types
of
things
that
have
changed
fans.
It's
also
become
more
of
a
social
thing
than
a
musical
thing.
I
mean
if
you
go
to
the
biggest
thing
in
music.
Right
now
is
EDM.
These
big
dance
vessels
will
draw
250,000
people
and
the
DJ
makes
you
know
a
million
dollars
a
night
for
pressing
buttons.
But
sorry
I
showed
my
bias,
but
it's
become
more
social,
it's
not
about
the
music
being
brilliant.
B
It
was
more
of
a
party
and
the
fact
that
it's
a
shared
experience,
the
other
thing
it
changes
record
stores,
of
course,
they're
gone.
Music
discovery
is
now
done
online.
It's
done
with
sharing
with
other
people.
Music
is
now
enjoyed
largely
on
earbuds.
You
don't
hear
people
you
go
to
the
beach.
You
don't
hear
people
listening
to
the
radio
or
listening
to
a
to
a
CD
anymore.
It's
very
solo.
B
People
are
buying
songs,
not
albums,
and
four
years
all
of
the
artists
that
you
hear
me
talk
about
tonight
sold
millions
of
Records
millions,
tens
of
millions
records
last
last
year,
Taylor
Swift
was
the
only
artist
to
sell
a
million
units.
It
just
speaks
to.
The
industry
has
changed
where
you
can
have
a
hit.
There's
also,
you
know
from
the
artists
standpoint.
I
got
to
happen
right
now.
B
It
has
to
ignite
immediately,
I
have
to
go
on
American
Idol
or
the
voice
and
I
have
to
become
famous
tonight
and
I
have
to
make
money
immediately
and
if
you're
familiar
with
the
book
by
a
Malcolm
glad
book
called
outliers,
he
talks
about
having
to
invest
10,000
hours
in
anything.
If
you
want
to
be
great
at
your
craft
right
now,
there's
really
not
a
huge
interest
on
most
bands
part
to
make
that
investment.
It's
like
you
know
we're
pretty
good,
maybe
we'll
get
lucky.
Maybe
we
know
somebody.
B
Maybe
we
can
get
famous
but
though,
that
that
whole
dynamic
from
the
bandstand
port
has
changed,
concert
promoters
used
to
be
based
locally
I
didn't
grow
up
in
DC,
I
grew
up
in
San
Francisco,
but
there
was
also
always
concert
promoters
that
we
could
call
and
say
look
there's
a
great
band.
I
mean
I
was
very
early
on
Pat
Benatar
and
Bon
Jovi
and
and
some
bands
like
that,
where
I
would
call
the
promoter
and
go
by
this
is
great
artist.
I
heard.
B
Can
we
bring
him
the
town
for
a
couple
of
bucks
and
right
now
the
concert
business
has
completely
been
commoditized
and
corporatized.
It's
owned
by
large
companies
like
live
nation
that
are
big
monolithic
companies.
They
bring
bands
to
town,
they
can
charge
a
hundred
and
eighty
bucks
a
ticket
and
put
it
out
a
range
of
most
people
and
charge
20
extra
parking
and
nine
bucks
for
a
coke.
It's
just
a
completely
different
world
right
now.
It's
about
the
bottom
line.
Profit!
B
It's
really
not
about
the
music
anymore
record
labels,
who
used
to
be
so
integral
to
the
to
the
launching
of
a
band's
career,
now
largely
irrelevant.
There's
there's
plenty
of
bands
that
break
online
that
don't
even
need
a
record
label
anywhere.
You'd,
be
surprised.
The
number
of
superstar
artists
that
don't
have
a
record
label
the
record
labels
rather
than
trying
to
embrace
digital
music
in
mp3
s.
They
soon
asked
the
Napster
they're
trying
to
build
walls
in
the
ocean
to
protect
people
from
from
from
going
outside
and
buying
digital
songs.
B
They
still
want
you
to
buy
as
1299
CB,
with
one
good
song
on
it,
but
they've
completely
missed
the
the
digital
revolution
and
are
capping
catching
up
right
now,
still
driving
through
the
rearview
mirror,
and
sadly
there
hasn't
been
a
great
rock
band.
That
has
really
happened
in
the
last
10
years
15
years
and
if
you
think
about
it,
even
guys
like
Dave,
Grohl
and
Foo
Fighters
came
from
nirvana.
B
This
is
a
sad
one.
If
we
have
any
Bruce
Springsteen
fans
in
the
house,
if
Bruce
Springsteen
were
to
come
out
today,
he
would
never
happen
because
his
first
two
albums
before
Born
to
Run
really
went
nowhere
and
in
the
minds
of
a
record
label.
If
you
don't
happen
right
now,
you're
done
you're
off
the
label,
we're
dropping
you!
You
have
no
chance
the
the
art
of
artist,
development
and
anr
artist
and
repertoire
at
the
record.
Labels
had
patients
in
developing
artists
and
finding
the
talent
that
they
could
really
nurture.
D
B
I
ever
saw,
and
also
the
second
best
concert.
I
ever
saw
again
a
guy
who
is
passionate
about
his
music
who
lives
for
his
music.
It's
what
keeps
him
young
and
keeps
him
engaged
and
also
an
extraordinary
man.
What's
interesting,
is
that
I
think
this
is
the
next
slide.
We
grip
it
in
the
era
of
icons,
people
who
were
just
big
than
life,
characters
and
personalities,
the
generation
now
and
I'm,
making
a
vet.
B
You
know
kind
of
a
generalization,
but
there
are
a
generation
of
shoe
gazers
of
bands
that
stand
there
and
just
kind
of
play
like
this
they're,
not
bigger
than
life
Rockstar
personalities
they.
They
aren't
really
concerned
with
a
legacy
as
much
as
hitting
it,
making
some
money
and
making
enough
money,
not
a
lot
of
investment
in
the
craft
in
singing
and
performing
and
playing
and
have
something
to
say
and,
more
importantly,
how
to
earn
it.
B
B
He
put
out
record
after
record
after
record,
he
played
every
crappy
little
club
that
you
can
imagine
trying
to
just
keep
writing
and
pushing
and
touring,
and
fighting
and
investing
his
10,000
hours
to
become
great
I
had
a
chance
to
get
to
know
Sammy
in
the
very
beginning,
and
we
were
backstage
at
a
show
with
1500
people
in
the
crowd
in
a
five
or
six
thousand
seat
venue,
and
he
was
almost
in
tears
with
his
head
in
his
hands
going.
What
does
it
take?
B
But
if
there's
ever
a
guy
that
you
want
to
see
it
happen
for
Sammy's
the
guy,
he
he
ended
up
selling
starting
a
cabo
wabo
tequila
company
that
he
sold
for
90
something
million
dollars
and
right
up
there
in
terms
of
one
of
the
most
successful
and
wealthy
rock
stars
of
all
time.
This
is
about
the
same
time
with
sandy
with
the
van
Halen,
and
they
were
kind
enough
to
dedicate
it
to
to
me.
B
The
fifth
Van
Halen
I
never
saw
their
paycheck,
though
the
last
piece
of
this
and
you've
heard
me
talk
a
bit
about
it.
It's
really
sad
for
me
is
the
radio
piece,
because
music
radio,
in
my
opinion,
is
just
a
shell
of
what
it
used
to
be,
and
it's
very
sad
for
me
to
say:
I've
had
a
chance
to
work
in
radio
on
the
local
level,
a
national
level
across
the
country.
B
The
spirit
of
innovation
of
radio
is
just
sad
League
on
the
the
era
of
music
discovery
and
having
personalities
that
you
can
relate
to
is
largely
gone.
It's
been
consolidated
and
turned
into
Mick
radio,
and
if
you
do
any
traveling
around
the
country,
you
know
that
there's
a
station
called
hot
and
a
station
called
magic
and
a
station
called
power
and
it's
day-
and
it
is
just
the
fan
there-
they're
all
over
the
country,
their
cookie
cutter
replicas
of
each
other.
B
Rather
than
do
something
unique
and
individual,
it's
become
more
common
for
them
just
be
owned
by
one
company
that
makes
a
cookie
cutter
version
in
this
town.
You
have
an
extraordinary
station
like
WTOP,
but
you
also
have
several
radio
stations
that
are
in
town
that
you
may
not
even
realize
none
of
the
disc
jockeys
live
here.
They
don't.
There
are
a
couple
of
exceptions.
The
music
is
all
pre-programmed
on
a
computer
days
in
advance,
so
the
idea
of
taking
a
request
or
at
making
sounding
remotely
spontaneous
is
completely
false.
B
Everything
look
is
loaded
into
a
hard
drive.
In
fact,
your
favorite
radio
station
is
probably
a
hard
drive.
You
would
walk
into
the
studio
and
there's
absolutely
nobody
there
or
no
live
body,
and
you
know,
as
I
say
to
people
that
you
know
if
radio
or
a
movie
they'd
be
rolling
the
credits.
Now
it's
it's
sad,
unfortunately,
but
it's
true.
B
B
These
artists,
that
I'm
talking
about
in
the
ones
that
I
wrote
about
in
my
book
are
people
that
were
infected.
They
they
were
passionate.
They
were
totally
engaged.
They
created
music
that
spoke
to
your
heart
and
your
body
and
your
mind,
and
they
created
an
escape.
They
made
an
emotional
connection
and
I
thought
it
was
fitting
to
kind
of
wrap
up
this
segment
with
a
cut
another
genius
message
from
from
Keith
Richards,
who
really
says
it
correctly?
B
You
know
he's
not
here
to
make
records
he's
here
to
say
something
and
to
move
other
people
and
and
I
think
that
that
generation
and
that
and
the
music
of
that
generation,
just
really
was,
was
built
to
do
that
now.
If
you're
interested
I
have
a
couple
of
other
bonus
stories
that
I
will
share
with
you.
B
B
So
I
quickly
went
to
the
table
of
contents
and
went
all
the
way
down
and
went
there
you
go
if
I
was
I
was
looking
for
a
book
and
I
was
at
the
airport
a
bookstore
I'd
say
I
pick
up
something:
that's
called
like
killed,
pink,
floyd's
pig,
but
pink
floyd's
pig
is
a
is
a
story
again.
I
was
working
at
this
radio
station
and
Pink
Floyd
was
coming
to
play
in
the
stadium,
60,000
seats
sold
out
and
I
thought.
C
B
Famous
concert
pig
that
I
can
fly
over
my
radio
station
the
week
leading
up
to
the
concert
and
his
manager
paused
and
goes
you
must
be
out
of
your
mind.
We
fly
that
in
concert
every
night
over
the
crowd.
It
hooks
on
a
scaffolding
rigging
on
a
motorized
thing
and
it
tracks
around,
and
it's
the
high
point
of
the
show
the
audience
goes
crazy.
If
anything
were
to
happen
to
that
pig
we'd
be
completely
screwed
and
I
said
on
my
life.
I
will
watch,
I
will
sleep
with
this
thing?
B
Nothing
will
happen
to
the
pig
in
a
weak
moment.
They
said
yes
and
I
thought
this
is.
This
is
terrific,
so
this
crate
arise
and
300
pounds
of
pink
fabric
inside
and
we
hoist
it
up
on
the
roof
and
we
inflate
it
with
air
and
it's
flying
about
80
feet
above
the
radio
station
and
it
looks
majestic.
It
was
just
wonderful
and
all
the
TV
cameras
or
the
helicopters
were
flying
around
and
the
we're
pulling
into
our
parking
lot
taking
picture
of
himself
with
the
pig
in
the
background
it
was
really
glorious.
B
This
is
a
pig
that
has
some
experience
in
getting
away.
It
was
created
for
the
album
cover
animals
that
pink
floyd
put
out
in
Roger
Waters
wanted
the
pig
created,
so
it
can
fly
over.
The
London
harbour
is
kind
of
a
promotional
stunt
when
the
at
when
the
album
came
out,
but
it
broke
through
its
tethers
and
flew
30,000
feet
to
the
point
where
pilots
were
reporting
it
and
it
shut
down,
Heathrow
Airport,
inbound
and
outbound
until
they
could
retrieve
the
pig.
C
B
B
It's
40
feet,
long
I
said:
look
it's
a
little
lighter
now
go
outside
and
check
against,
it
puts
the
phone
down,
runs
out,
comes
back
huffing
and
puffing
know
it
picks
gone.
So
I'm
looking
at
my
clock
at
six
a.m.
I
said,
don't
say
anything
to
anybody.
I'm
on
my
way,
so
I
jump
in
the
car
fly
to
the
radio
station
park.
B
My
car
scramble
up
this
ladder
to
the
top
of
the
radio
station
and
lo
and
behold,
the
pig
is
deflated
and
it's
draped
all
over
the
air-conditioning,
ducts
and
the
gravel
on
top
of
the
roof.
It's
gone
and
I'm
thinking.
How
does
it
deflate
what
could
happen
to
this
thing?
At
least
it
didn't
escape,
but
I'm
now
trying
to
with
a
flashlight,
because
it's
still
dark
pick
up
corners
of
the
pig
and
walk
around
it.
B
B
Somebody
I
think
from
a
competing
radio
station
didn't
like
all
the
attention
we
were
getting
and
hired
some,
because
this
is
a
professional
arrow,
not
that
it
was
too
hard
to
hit,
but
it
was
done
and
I'm
thinking.
Okay,
I've
got
to
have
this
thing
back
at
the
venue
at
noon.
It's
now
seven
a.m.
and
I've
got
a
dead
pig.
Where
do
you
even
start
repairing
something
like
that?
So
I
called
kind
of
everybody
in
and
said:
okay
all
hands
on
deck.
B
What
do
we
do
and
we
found
a
parachute
company
who
said
sure
bring
it
in
and
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
so
we
stuffed
300
pounds
of
fabric
into
the
radio
station
and
van
and
fly
all
the
way
up.
45
minutes
to
this
parachute
company.
We
bring
it
out.
We
spread
this
thing
out
all
over
his
warehouse
floor
and
he
says
well
I
can't
stitch
it.
He
goes
you're
going
to
inflate
this
thing.
It
won't
hold
it'll
pop,
it
won't
hold
the
air
he
was
I
have
to
put
a
patch
on
it.
C
C
B
A
lot
of
options,
I
said,
look
just
do
what
you
need
to
do
just
patch
it
up.
So
he
goes
give
me
a
hat
about
an
hour,
and
I
said
I
don't
have
an
hour
and
he
goes
give
me
a
half
an
hour
so
he's
laying
down
and
putting
this
patch
on
and
he's
stitching
up
the
pig
and
it
all
kind
of
settles
in
it
looks
like
it's:
okay,
stuff
it
in
the
van
and
I'm
looking
at
my
watch
and
it's
11am
and
we
have
to
be
an
hour
away
in
the
Seattle.
B
King
go
at
noon,
so
we
fly
in
there
through
wet
streets
and
lots
of
traffic
and
I,
and
we
get
to
the
front
of
the
venue
and
here's.
This
big
giant
man
standing
right
on
the
loading
dock
like
this.
Looking
at
his
watch
and
we
come
in
at
eleven
fifty-nine
I
said,
got
your
pig,
so
we
open
the
doors
and
his
road
crew.
Take
it
it's
all
kind
of
all
crumpled
in
a
ball
and
we
kinda
threw
it
to
them
and
they
ran
with
it
inside
and
we
got
the
hell
out
of
there
and
I.
D
B
B
Halen
was
coming
to
town
for
two
nights
and
it
was
sold
out
and
I
called
her
manager
and
I
said:
hey
look
when
the
guys
were
in
town.
Would
they
please
come
by
the
radio
station
we'd
love
to
visit
and
see
what's
going
on
and
let
them
you
know,
play
some
records
and
talk
on
the
air,
something
that
rarely
happens
anymore
and
is
managing
as
well.
You
know
they're
really
busy
this
time.
You
know
we
love
you
guys,
but
we
don't
think
it's
going
to
happen
fast
forward
a
couple
of
months.
B
They
walk
right
into
the
radio
station,
walk
right
past
the
receptionist
down
the
hallway,
open
the
control
room
and
said
we're
here
to
take
over
and
they
they
took
our
disc
jockey
here
in
the
metal
and
basically
kicked
him
aside,
and
they
went
on
the
air
and
said
what
they
wanted
and
played
what
they
wanted
and
they
turned
the
studio
monitors
up.
What
you
can't
see
in
here
all
the
way
to
10
and
these
girls
got
up
and
they're
dancing
all
over.
C
B
B
You
know
your
book
really
depressed
me
because
nobody
comes
to
our
radio
station
now,
I
never
get
invited
backstage
and
if
I
do
get
vited
backstage,
they
don't
want
to
have
anything
to
do
with
me
after
that,
because
I
feel
like
you
were
there
when
it
was
fun
and
it's
not
fun
now
and
and
then
it
was
kind
of
at
that
point
that
I
realized.
Maybe
I
should
write
these
things
down,
because
the
way
that
this
book
really
happened
was
after
being
out
with
friends
one
too
many
times
where
they
go.
B
B
This
one
is
too
embarrassed
for
me
to
tell
you,
but
I
did
get
a
chance
to
actually
spend
some
time
with
Robert
Plant,
the
great
Robert
Plant,
who
was
a
magnificent
man
very
smart,
very
articulate,
very
charming.
He
wanted
to
talk
about
his
solo
music
because,
after
he
left
led
zeppelin,
he
wanted
to
know
that
people
still
liked
him
that
people
could
could
embrace
robert
plant
without
having
Jimmy
Page
standing
next
to
him,
and
he
was
all
about
trying
to
get
some
feedback
on.
B
You
know
what
did
I
think
of
his
new
record
and
did
I
think
it
was
going
to
work
and
Here.
I
am
talking
to
the
golden
god
of
rock
about
do
I
think
he
has
a
prayer
as
a
solo
artist,
but
I
really
wanted
to
impress
him
I
really
wanted
to
say,
have
a
chance
to
really
knock
this
guy
out.
He's
he's
been
interviewed
by
everybody
I'm
going
to
just
stunned
him
with
my
brilliance
and
I
completely
did
a
face
flop,
I
embarrassed
myself
and
the
photographer
at
that
very
moment
took
took
this
picture.
B
So
it
takes
a
lot
of
courage
to
stand
up
here
in
front
of
you,
knowing
that
that
this
was
not
my
highlight
of
my
career
when
this
happened,
but
I
had
a
lot
of
fun.
It
was
fun
while
it
lasted
and
it
was
a
special
window
of
time
from
the
late
70s
into
the
early
90s.
That
really
will
never
happen
again
in
a
few
or
fans
of
that
music.
You
really
were
truly
into
something
special.
So
with
that
I
will
say.
Thank
you
for
coming.
I
have
some
books
over
here.
E
E
B
B
Okay,
but
I
saw
as
companies
became
more
dominant
as
they
really
bulldoze
the
landscape
and
didn't
want
to
really
take
time
to
make
an
effort
to
be
a
local
radio
station,
because
it
was
so
much
cheaper
to
have
one
person
just
record
tracks.
450
radio
station
I'll
tell
you
something
that
you
asked
last
company
I
was
with
and
we
employed
couple
of
hundred
disc
jockeys
and
they
would
sit
in
the
studio
and
say
hello.
Birmingham.
It's
going
to
be
68
and
clear.
B
Today,
hello,
Toledo,
it's
going
to
be
47
at
one
after
another,
and
these
people
would
record
200
of
those
in
one
sitting
and
it
becomes
robotic.
It
became
very
much
like
a
factory
where
there
was
really
no
passion.
There
was
no
soul.
There
was
no
engagement.
It
was
just
trying
to
work
through
that
list
and
that's,
sadly,
one
of
the
patterns
of
radio,
it's
being
commoditized,
and
I
don't.
B
I
don't
think
that
radio
is
standing
up
and
fighting
and
saying
you
know
what
we
can
do
things
that
pandora
can't
we
can
do
things
that
sirius
XM
can't
we
can
do
things
that
you're
not
going
to
get
from
an
internet
radio
station,
but
sadly
they're
not
inspired
to
do
that,
and
their
companies
are
more
about
cutting
and
cutting
and
cutting,
and
rather
than
investing
more
about
taking
things
away.
That
might
get
you
to
tune
out
rather
than
adding
things
into
their
radio
station
that'll
make
it
make
you
want
to
tune
in.
B
As
for
the
audience,
you're
talking
about
radio
is,
is
makes
its
money
on
25
to
54
year
olds
period.
That's
what
drives
all
ad
agency
business!
It's
the
money
demo
as
they
call
it.
So,
if
you're
playing
music
and
a
lot
of
the
sixties
music
that
you're
talking
about
you're,
not
here
on
the
radio
anymore.
B
For
that
reason,
because
people
who
grew
up
with
that
music
are
going
to
be
54
or
55
plus
and
they
can't
sell
it
so
when
you're
talking
about
Sinatra
and
Tony
Bennett
and
Al
Martino
and
Perry
Como,
and
all
of
that
I'm
surprised,
there's
any
of
those
stations
left.
So
if
your
parents
found
one
God,
love
them
tell
them
not
to
get
too
attached,
it's
not
going
to
be
there
for
long
all.
C
Right,
thank
you
for
being
here
has
been
wonderful
to
listen
to
you.
Coincidentally,
I
just
read
a
biography
of
David
Bowie
I
can't
remember
the
author's
name,
but
I
got
it
here
at
the
library
and
it
started
when
he
was
just
I,
think,
14
or
so,
and
really
back
in
the
early
60s,
maybe
even
late
50s,
and
we
went
through
the
whole
gamut
of
everything,
the
details
of
his
whole
life
and
how
he
dealt
with
the
business,
the
business
of
music
and
etc,
etc.
C
B
Did
I
met
him
actually
during
his
heyday?
He
he
were
during
the
era
of
let's
dance,
which
was
kind
of
at
least
commercially
his
peak
and
and
his
get
two
guitar
players
that
he
worked
with
Peter
Frampton
and
Stevie
Ray
Vaughan,
where
the
guitar
players
that
played
with
David
Bowie
David
Bowie
also
has
the
distinction
of
being
the
only
guy
I
know
who
sold
stock
in
himself
yeah.
You
could
buy
stock
in
how
well
he
does
from
here
forward.
B
Unfortunately,
as
great
as
greater
days
were
kind
of
behind
him,
I
didn't
I
did
meet
David,
Bowie,
very
classy,
very
elegant
man,
very
soft-spoken
man
also
shorter
than
me
most
of
the
stars.
It's
interesting.
You
know
I'm
5
10
on
a
good
day,
but
when
you
start
meeting
some
of
these
artists,
it's
really
remarkable
how
I
was
taller
than
most
of
them
was
really
remarkable.
I
also
got
to
do
this
several
stories
in
my
book
about
the
band
ac/dc.
Well,
I.
B
D
B
C
D
B
That
was
interesting,
I
never
got
to
meet
john.
You
know
when
people
ask
me,
I
mean
who
haven't
you
met
that
you
would
like
to?
He
probably
be
right
right.
There
is
number
one
I
was
running
a
radio
station
1980
we
were,
it
was
in
our
heyday
and
I
came
out
of
a
restaurant
and
I
got
in
the
car
and
I
and
I
turn
on
my
radio
station,
and
my
disc
jockey,
who
is
also
one
of
my
best
friend's,
was
on
the
air
and
he's
crying
and
I'm
thinking
what
is
going
on.
B
I
me,
this
is
a
rock
station
at
night.
It
should
be.
You
know
it's
crime
and
there's
a
listener.
Saying
Steve
it's
going
to
be
okay,
it's
going
to
be
you'll,
be
all
right
and
Steve
goes
I
know,
but
I
just
can't
believe
John
Lennon's
dead,
and
that
was
the
first
that
I
heard
and
I
never
running
right
through
a
red
light
and
a
big
busy
intersection
like
three
lanes.
B
Each
direction
I
went
right
through
the
middle
of
it
and
then
I
drove
to
the
radio
station
and
heard
the
news
and
stayed
there
most
of
the
night.
As
all
the
reports
were
coming
in
and
the
vigils
were
popping
up
around
the
country
but
horrible
night,
have
you
been
to
strawberry
field
and
Central
Park
ya
gotta
pay
homage
right
across
from
the
Dakota
yeah.
You
know
it's
funny,
I.
I
lived
in
the
New
York
area
for
last
17
18
years
before
moving
here
and
took
my
kids
to
the
Dakota
and
I
asked
the
guard.
B
There
I
said
people
still
come
by
here,
a
lot.
He
said
every
hour
of
every
day,
rain
or
shine
warm
or
cold
all
the
time,
and
even
while
I
was
their
calves,
slow
and
people
get
out
again.
I.
Don't
think
that
they're
going
to
do
that,
god
forbid
that
you
know
one
of
the
pop
stars
of
today.
You
know
it
meets
their
fate
like
that,
but
I
just
don't
think
that
the
lasting
you
know
you
know
35
years
later,
that
that'll
be
the
same.
Well,
thank
you
for
coming.
I
really
appreciate
you
coming
hope.