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From YouTube: Arlington Reads: David Brooks
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Arlington Reads: David Brooks, Author of "The Second Mountain: The Quest for a Moral Life."
Join us tonight for author and New York Times columnist David Brooks in conversation with Library Director Diane Kresh. https://library.arlingtonva.us/
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A
A
That
work
continues
in
earnest
today.
My
distinguished
friend
and
colleague,
university
of
chicago
alum,
david
brooks,
and
yes,
I'm
from
chicago,
has
offered
illuminating
insight
and
perspective
on
contemporary
issues
for
decades.
As
one
of
america's
most
prominent
thought,
leaders
david
has
been
an
op-ed
columnist
for
the
new
york
times
since
2003.
A
He
reminds
us
to
be
inspired
to
find
our
multiple
commonalities
and
be
kind
and
to
care
for
one
another,
especially
in
these
divisive
times
tonight.
We
will
learn
about
three
arlington
residents
who
exemplify
the
spirit
behind
david's
weave
project.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
for
this
arlington
reads:
conversation.
B
Well,
thank
you
to
sharon
rockefeller.
Thank
you
to
weta
for
supporting
us
today
in
this
important
conversation
about
how
to
build
community.
You
know
this
year.
It's
I
think
clear
to
everybody
even
more
how
important
community
is,
but
it's
been
so
difficult
with
the
pandemic
and
in
fact
we
started
out
this
year.
B
Actually,
our
attempt
to
get
through
this
year
together
build
a
sense
of
community
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
the
discussion
with
with
mr
david
brooks
today,
and
our
wonderful
director
of
our
libraries
is
going
to
head
up
diane,
crush
and
mark.
Why
don't
you
talk
a
little
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
diane
and
her
and
her
book
talks
that
she
gives.
C
C
Diane's
interviews
are
always
provocative
and
they
raise
a
number
of
interesting
questions,
and
so
I
know
that
when
she
wraps
up
at
the
end,
it's
going
to
be
we're
going
to
come
back
to
a
conversation
among
the
three
of
us,
libby,
myself
and
diane,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
introduce
diane
who
will
be
interviewing
david.
Brooks
so
see
you
all
back
here.
At
the
end
of
that
interview
thanks
everybody.
D
D
D
D
Many
of
us
know
you
from
your
new
york
times
op-ed
columns
and
then
before
that
the
wall
street
journal
columns-
and
I
know
you
best
for
your
appearances
on
the
weekly
news
hour,
which
for
me
is
appointment,
television,
you're
sparring
with
mark
shields
each
week.
I
have
on
my
desk
and
I'm
you
know
no
point
in
reading
it,
but
it's
an
op
ad
that
you
wrote
in
may
of
2015
and
it's
called
what's
your
purpose
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
set
the
stage.
D
What
were
you
thinking
about
at
the
time
that
made
you
go
through
a
personal
journey?
If
you
will
a
personal
development
process,
personal
examination
and
led
you
to
where
you
are
today,
you
published
two
books,
the
road
to
character
and
the
second
mountain
which
we
can
refer
to
later
and,
of
course
we
have
them
in
arlington
library.
But
please
tell
us
where
you
were
mentally
and
emotionally
about
six
or
seven
years
ago.
E
Yeah,
I
guess
professionally,
I
had
achieved
way
more
career
success
than
I
ever
thought.
I
would
I
got
to
work
in
the
new
york
times
in
the
newshour
and
various
places,
and
I
learned
that
career
success
helps
you
avoid
any
anxiety.
You
might
feel
if
you
felt
yourself
a
failure,
but
it
doesn't
give
you
that
much
positive
happiness
and,
along
the
way
I
had
neglected
my
my
relationships.
E
I
had
neglected
my
friendships
in
particular,
and
so
at
about
that
time
my
kids
were
leaving
a
home
to
go
to
college
or
about
to
or
had
my
marriage
had
ended.
I
was
living
alone
in
an
apartment
on
wisconsin
avenue,
and
I
realized
that
I
had
a
lot
of
work.
Friends,
people
I
could
go
to
lunch
with
and
talk
politics.
E
I
didn't
know
a
lot
of
great
weekend:
friendships,
the
kind
that
are
actually
friendships
who
were
the
people,
you're,
actually
intimate
and
close
with,
and
so
the
moment
was
symbolized
for
me
in
my
apartment
was,
I
was
working
all
the
time.
I
was
like
any
idiot
who
tries
to
work
their
way
through
an
emotional
problem
and
a
spiritual
problem,
and
if
you
went
to
my
kitchen
and
pulled
open
the
drawers
where
there
should
have
been
forks
and
knives
for
guests,
I
had
post-it
notes
and
where
there
should
have
been
plates
for
guests.
E
I
had
envelopes
and
stuff
like
that,
stationary
supplies,
and
so
that's
a
misled
life,
and
so
I
decided
that
I
would
you
know,
try
to
change
my
life
in
a
way
that
was
deeper
and
more
relational
and
more
community
oriented.
So
I
did.
I
wrote
two
books,
one,
the
road
character
which
was
about
how
do
you
lead
a
moral
life
and
then
the
second
mountain
is
really.
How
do
you
lead
a
relational
life
and
those
books
were
not
part
of.
They
were
part
of
the
solution.
They
were
not
the
whole
solution.
E
Actually
leading
a
life
dedicated
to
commitments
was
was
part
of
the
solution
and
I'm
not
perfect.
I
still
tend
to
shrink
away
sometimes
from
deep
emotional
bonds,
but
I'm
a
lot
better
than
I
was,
and
it's
a
it's
a
sign.
It
was
assigned
to
me
that
a
life
can
change
pretty
dramatically
at
any
stage
in
life.
If
you
choose
to
throw
yourself
into
it,.
D
E
Our
whole
country
is
going
through
it
and
that's
been
evident
for
a
few
years
with
the
you
know,
the
rising
depression
rates,
the
rising
suicide
rates,
but
it's
been
super
present
this
year
in
2020,
and
I
I
was
helped
learning
about
thinking
about
2020.
It
was
super
confusing
year
to
think
about,
because
so
much
was
going
on,
but
samuel
huntington,
harvard
political
scientist,
wrote
a
book
in
1981
on
the
politics
of
disharmony
and
he
said
every
60
years.
America
goes
through
a
moral
convulsion.
E
These
are
periods
when
people
are
indignant
about
how
things
are.
There
have
lost
faith
in
systems,
they've
lost
faith
in
each
other.
A
new
moral
generation
comes
along
the
scene
outside
groups
want
to
get
inside,
and
so
he
says
we
have
these
convulsions.
We
had
in
the
1770s
1830s
1890s,
with
a
progressive
error
in
the
1960s
and
all
that
and
he
predicted
in
1981
that
we'd
probably
have
one
around
2020.
E
And
lo
and
behold
we
had
this
convulsion.
We
could
have
come
together
in
covid
and
we
did
not,
and
the
crisis
manifests
itself
as
a
crisis
of
trust,
that
we
don't
trust
each
other.
We
don't
trust
our
institutions,
and
so
it's
the
same
process
that
I
was
going
through,
but
on
a
national
scale
and
it's.
How
do
you
take
isolation,
distrust
and
create
some
sense
of
trust
and
relationship
and
mutual
commitment
and
community?
And
that's
really
the
challenge
for
all
of
us.
D
D
Courthouse
libby,
garvin
garvey,
our
county
board
chair,
has
grandchildren,
so
we're
all
boomers
and
what
what
can
we
do
to
encourage
this
generation
of
I'd
say
pretty
activist
I
mean
people
who
are
looking
for
purpose
and
looking
for
something
to
identify
with
what
what
encouragement
can
we
give
them
to
help
them
either
be
more
of
who
they
are,
or
in
fact,
reach?
That
second
mountain
that
you
talked
about
in
your
second
book.
E
Yeah,
I
would
say
we
one
thing
we
can
do.
Let
them
learn
from
our
successes
and
let
them
learn
better.
I
think,
over
the
course
of
the
boomer
generation
we've
made
life
fairer
than
it
used
to
be
fair
for
women,
fair
for
african
americans,
fair
for
jews,
fairer
for
a
lot
of
groups,
not
all
the
way
there.
But
progress
has
been
made.
E
Our
failures
derive
from
maybe
the
flip
side
of
our
success,
which
is
we're
a
pretty
individualistic
generation
starting
in
the
1960s.
The
songs
were
about
liberation,
people
felt
hemmed
in,
they
felt
they
were
too
conformist,
they
felt
too
constrained,
and
so
the
soldier
free
bird,
I'm
a
rambling
man,
I'm
born
to
run
right,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
the
central
boomer
story,
it's
the
story
of
liberation
and
we've
taken
60
years
and
we've
had
60
years
of
individualism,
which
has
been
great
for
the
liberation
of
individuals.
E
It's
not
been
great
for
the
connections
between
people.
When
I
look
at
gen,
z
and
and
millennials,
I
look
at
a
generation,
as
you
say,
super
morally
passionate
super
committed
to
community
in
a
way,
maybe
people
20
years
ago,
weren't,
but
still
distrustful
still
having
grown
up
in
an
era
that
has
let
them
down
the
financial
crisis
or
donald
trump
and
so
helping
cross
generation.
All
of
us
to
find
trusting
organizations,
I
think
it's
organizations
and
institutions
are
the
key.
E
D
Of
course,
when
we're
living
in
a
pandemic,
it
makes
the
relationship
building
that
much
harder.
And,
of
course
I
worry
about
the
amount
of
time
each
of
us
spends
on
social
media
and
tend
to
define
ourselves
by
how
many
likes
we
have.
What
our
reach
is,
how
many
thousands
of
people
our
tweets
reach.
Sadly,
my
tweets
reach
nobody,
but
but.
D
E
Yeah,
this
is
not
my
term.
I
forgot
a
political
scientist
at
tufts.
I
think,
and
she
argues
that
history
moves
forward
by
what
she
calls
ratchet
hatchet
pivot
ratchet
and
basically,
what
happens
is
a
country
confronts
a
problem
in
the
1960s
there
was
civil
rights,
it
was
feminism,
we
had
we
had
sexism,
we
had
these
problems
and
we
created
a
culture
to
solve
it
and
we
made
some
progress
so
we
ratcheted
it
up,
but
then
the
culture
we
created
sort
of
stopped
working
too
individualistic.
E
D
E
Yeah,
well,
I
was
writing
all
these
columns
and
they
all
came
down
to
social
isolation
and
disconnection
which
we've
been
talking
about,
and
I
thought
this
is
the
core
problem
underlying
a
lot
of
our
problems,
underlying
polarization
underlying
a
lot
of
economic
problems
and
lack
of
social
mobility,
and
I
realize
it's
being
solved
at
the
local
level
by
people.
I
call
weavers
who
are
really
good
at
building
relationship.
E
E
Culture
changes
when
a
small
group
of
people
find
a
better
way
to
live
and
the
rest
of
us
copy
them,
and
so
we
go
around
the
country
when
we
plot
ourselves
down
whether
it's
in
the
englewood
neighborhood
in
chicago
or
wilkes,
north
carolina,
rural
america
and
we
say
who's
trusted
here
and
we
learn
we
run
away.
We
run
across
75
people
who
are
active
in
the
community
who
are
making
that
community
work.
For
example,
there's
a
guy
named
panchayat
willis
in
houston.
E
He
takes
undocumented
immigrants
who
have
been
paralyzed
while
working
on
construction
sites,
and
he
gets
them
diapers
and
catheters
and
wheelchairs.
So
they
can
lead
dignified
lives
and
he
turns
them
into
social
workers.
So
you'll
be
in
your
neighborhood
in
houston
and
60.
Latino,
guys
in
wheelchairs
will
roll
in
your
neighborhood
to
help
your
community
and
that's
what
they
do.
They
just
rush
to
the
hurricane.
They
see
a
problem
and
they're
just
phenomenal
at
building
relationships
and
somehow
we
we
all
should
aspire
to
be
a
little
more
like
that.
D
Well,
it
seems
that
people
too
are
are
striving
for
that
kind
of
community
connection.
When
I
grew
up
in
the
60s,
we
knew
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
we
had
parties
and
barbecues
together.
If
I
went
out
to
play,
I
could
be
assured
that
all
of
the
other
mothers
were
looking
out
for
each
of
us
and
we
don't
have
that
sense
of
connectedness
now,
and
so
we
want
to
take
a
couple
of
minutes
to
talk
about
the
weavers
that
we've
identified
here
in
arlington.
H
They're
referred
here
through
dhs,
the
department
of
human
services.
They
produce
handcrafted
items
such
as
tote
bags,
scarves,
small
pouches,
lunch
totes
place,
mats,
tea,
towels,
small
coin
purses
and
when
our
items
sell
the
participant
that
makes
that
particular
item
gets
100
percent
of
the
proceeds.
G
Today
is
special
because
we
have
a
group
from
notre
dame
and
they're
here
with
a
program
that
brings
them
into
lars,
which
is
a
group
home
that
a
couple
of
our
participants
are
a
part
of
and
they're
actually
here
to
visit,
lori,
because
it's
lori's
birthday
soon
and
and
they've
all
really
become
good
friends
with
lori.
In
the
past
few
days,.
G
The
program
at
arlington
weaves
helps
build
confidence
and
self-esteem
amongst
the
individuals,
because
it
not
only
gives
them
a
sense
of
independence
when
they
can
choose
the
colors
and
the
types
of
patterns
that
they
want
to
build.
But
then
it
also
helps
them
to
want
to
turn
the
paycheck
into
and
to
receive
some
sort
of
payback
for
their
artistry.
H
H
I
Go
I'm
diane,
lynn,
cohen.
I'm
an
executive
and
career
coach
with
coaching
to
connect,
and
what
brings
me
here
today,
which
I'm
very
grateful
and
appreciative
for,
is
that
I'm
a
certified
laughter,
yoga
leader
and
a
laughter
ambassador,
there's
four
elements:
there's
clapping,
there's
childlike
playfulness
and
there's
the
pranayama
breathing,
which
is
the
yoga
piece
we
don't
do
poses.
We
laugh
and
we
breathe
a
lot
laughter.
Yoga
is
laughing
for
no
reason
it's
a
unique
concept.
There
are
no
jokes.
We
laugh
at
ourselves.
I
Its
mission
is
world
peace,
so
many
people
are
mocked
or
laughed
at
or
put
down
or
treated
cruelly,
and
so,
when
we
laugh
at
ourselves
and
nodded
other
people,
it's
a
wonderful
tool.
I've
learned
so
many
lessons.
I
think
one
of
the
greatest
is
resilience
and
how
laughter
contributes
to
that,
because
when
you
start
to
laugh
at
yourself
or
at
the
problem,
you
can
bounce
back
and
gain
your
power.
I
J
The
women
that
I
employ
were
directly
affected
their
families
and
their
children
by
this
shutdown,
and
it
was
really
my
wife
saying
you
know
you
know
you
got
to
do
something
because
I
came
home
that
day
telling
her
about.
You
know
my
team
and
their
kids,
and
oh,
my
god,
how
are
they
going
to
get
meals.
J
K
K
K
An
important
part
of
equity
is
understanding
who's
missing,
whose
voices
are
missing
and
trying
to
get
those
voices
to
the
table
if
I'm
constantly
bumping
into
walls,
and
why
should
I
continue
every
time
I
get
to
that
point?
I
get
some
sort
of
bubble.
That
tells
me
about
the.
Why
so
you
know
someone
will
come
up
to
me
and
say
charisse.
K
K
K
E
E
E
They
lose
a
child
and
they
don't
want
to
happen
other
people,
and
so
they
form
an
organization
that'll,
maybe
help
prevent
teenage
depression
and
and
kids
taking
their
own
lives,
and
so
what
david
is
there
was
a
felt
need,
and
he
just
responded
and
what's
beautiful
about
that
story,
is
that
he
feels
he's
deeper
into
the
neighborhood
than
he
ever
was.
He
was
on
the
block,
but
he's
not
in
the
block
and
and
so
he's
had
his
life
transformed
by
this
and
and
that's
what
so
happens.
E
D
Right
and
what
what
strikes
me
too,
is
that
it's
it's
simple
kind
of
basic
step
when
you
step
back
one
person,
one
neighborhood
one
initiative
at
a
time,
but
the
cumulative
effect
can
bring
about
real
transformation.
My
my
favorite
moment
in
david's
video
was
when
he
said
you
know
I
I
saw
there
was
a
problem
before
us
and
I
grabbed
a
big
spoon
and
he
started
making
the
beans
and
rice,
and
I
thought
I
thought
that
was
just
just
perfect.
We
also
had
the
the
laughing
yoga
thoughts,
thoughts.
E
D
E
Yeah,
I
forgot
her
phrase,
diane's
phrase
she
used
to
be
a
perfectionist
and
then
a
serious
alcoholic,
or
something
like
that,
and
so
what's
beautiful
about
that,
is
it's
she's
emerging
from
her
own
reality
that
she
had
this
problem.
She
was
perfectionist.
She
probably
didn't
laugh
enough,
and
so
she
figures
out
a
solution
and
she
shares
it
and
there's
this
interest
for
it.
The
number
of
people
who
showed
up
the
meeting
the
number
of
people
who
showed
up
at
the
national
cathedral.
E
That
is
often
unmet
in
everyday
life,
and
so
somebody
like
her
who
just
radiates
transparency,
there's
a
hunger
for
that,
and
I
find,
as
I
go
around
the
country
when
you
really
think
about
what
weavers
are
doing.
They're
making
people
feel
felt.
They're
they're,
making
people
feel
seen
and
at
the
core
of
every
successful
community
or
organization
or
family
is
the
ability
to
know
other
people
and
be
deeply
known
yourself,
and
we
don't
teach
that
in
schools,
but
she
she
has
it
in
abundance.
D
What
I
also
liked
about
her
she,
she
sort
of
surrendered
the
ego
she
and
even
sort
of
at
one
point.
It
was
less
about
me
and
and
being
kind
to
others
and
seeing
others
and
and
making
that
possible
and
just
the
way
she
ended
it.
You
know
be
kind
and
laugh
I
mean
how
many
times
do
we
think
about
laughing
at
ourselves?
No,
we
don't
like
to
do
that
and
that
that
sense
of
ego
less.
Is
that
also
true,
a
characteristic
of
the
weaver.
E
For
sure
they
live
lives
for,
for
their
lives,
are
not
about
self.
Their
runs
really
are
about
surface
and
they
take
on
a
lot
of
burdens
and
sometimes
there's
risk
of
burnout.
But
the
thing
that
they
also
share
often
is
what
what
she
has
is
the
ability
to
be
vulnerable
and
childlike
right,
and
I
hope,
if
I
were
around
her
I'd,
be
uninhibited
enough
to
actually
do
the
silly
stuff,
but
but
to
lead.
People
in
that
way
is
is
a
way
of
just
breaking
down
the
adult
encrustations
that
built
up
around
our
personalities.
D
Absolutely
right:
we've
all
got
these
protective
shells
which
are
in
many
cases
decades
old
and
hardened
over
I've.
I'm
she
does
classes
for
the
library
actually,
and
I'm
told
that
it's
really
it's
fun
and
infectious.
I
don't
even
like
yoga,
so
I'm
not
sure
I'm
going
to
join
in,
but
it
looked
like
an
incredible
release
and
then
the
third
person
is
cherise
kearns
and
she
is
active
in
education
and
advocating
for
black
students,
in
particular
thoughts
about
about
her
piece
and
her
work.
E
E
It's
easy
to
have
like
at
this
informal
gathering,
but
the
health
of
our
society
is
based
on
our
institutions
based
on
the
structures,
whether
it's
governmental
or
county
government
or
the
school
system,
and
so
continually
improving
the
school
systems
and
reforming
them
is
the
work,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
have
lost
faith
in
institutions.
They
say:
oh,
they
don't
work.
Institutions,
don't
work,
I'm
anti-institutional,
but
we
have
to
make
it
work
because
that's
you
know
what
we
live
and
that's
what
we
get
educated
within.
D
Right
she
also
talks
a
lot
about
people
asking
her.
You
know,
do
you
ever
get
tired
of
advocating
for
this
issue,
and
she-
and
you
know,
do
you
ever
feel
like
hitting
the
wall,
and
she
says
when
I
do.
I
think
about
the.
Why
and
the
why,
as
opposed
to
the,
how
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
importance
of
the
y
and
the
grounding
of
the
y.
E
E
D
And-
and
she
also
talks
about
again
the
importance
of
love-
I
mean
just
just
loving
each
other
and
again
some
of
us
feel
I
mean
I'm
somebody
for
whom,
if
somebody
were
to
call
me
a
lover,
I'd
be
horrified
a
strong
leader,
etc.
But
we
tend
to
shy
away
from
those
rooms
and
I
think
that's
another
example
of
shying
away
from
our
intimacy
and
our
willingness
to
be
vulnerable
and
to
get
too
close
to
other
people.
And
these
folks
don't
seem
to
have
that
problem.
E
D
I
remember
some
of
the
teachers
that
I
had
over
the
decades
and
how,
in
many
cases,
they
really
saved
me
from
myself
when
I
didn't
even
know
I
needed
saving,
so
it's
an
important
relationship
and
again
one
I
worry
about
as
we
are
doing
more
social
distancing
and
not
as
available
in
the
classroom
as
as
we
might
be,
it
challenges
us
to
think
of
more
ingenious
ways
of
connecting.
I
want
to
talk
to.
D
E
Yeah,
that's
a
you
know.
I
did
this
big
long
piece
about
trust
for
the
atlantic
and
I
talked
to
all
these
social
scientists.
They
all
said
we
know
a
lot
about
how
trust
is
destroyed.
We
don't
know
how
it's
built,
because
it
hasn't
been
built
in
a
long
time,
and
you
know
we
have
lost
faith,
our
institutions
and
in
each
other.
If
you
talk
to
young
adults
and
you
ask
them,
can
most
people
be
trusted?
E
E
E
They
created
all
these
organizations
in
the
1890s,
the
boys
and
girl
scouts,
the
boys
and
girls
clubs,
the
temperance
movement,
the
settlement
house
movement,
the
naacp,
the
union,
so
just
one
organization
after
another
just
got
built
suffragettes
and
all
at
once,
and
so
it
was
within
those
organizations
that
trust
was
built
up
and
community
was
reestablished
and
then
later
they
had
the
progressive
movement
which
cleaned
up
government,
and
so
it
you
can
do
it.
But
I
do
think
you
have
to
work
on
common
projects
together
and
see
each
other.
E
But
you
know
trust
is
the
ratio
between
the
number
of
times
you've
been
betrayed
and
the
number
of
times
you
haven't
been
betrayed
when
people
have
actually
kept
their
promises?
Sure,
and
but
you
you've
got
to
put
yourself
in
situations
where
people
are
making
and
keeping
their
promises
to
one
another,
and
then
people
then
say:
oh
yeah,
the
world
is
a
trustworthy
place.
D
Right,
the
the
line
between
advocacy,
maybe
assertive,
advocacy
and
tribalism,
which
you've
described
in
a
couple
of
your
of
your
writings
and
and
weaving,
is
that
is
that
a
difficult
line
to
keep
separate?
I
mean,
when
does
tribalism
become
the
thing
as
opposed
to
I'm
working
on
behalf
of
a
group,
I'm
a
part
of
and
I'm
working
for,
a
greater
good?
Is
there
tension
between
those
two.
E
Yeah
they
can
blend
into
each
other
when
threat
arises.
But
to
me
community
is
love
of
a
common
thing.
Like
love
of
arlington
county.
We
just
love
our
place
and
we
want
to
serve
it.
Tribalism
is
hatred
of
another,
and
so,
if
you
were
joining
because
you
love
arlington
county,
that's
community,
if
you're
joining,
because
you
hate
montgomery
county,
that's
tribalism,
and
so
often
a
lot
of
our
groupings
are
not
based
on
mutual
love
but
on
a
shared
hatred
of
something
else,
and
one
grows
out
of
abundance
mentality
community.
Does
that
there's
enough
for
all?
D
D
And
when
it's
not
covered,
we
we
actually
have
a
store
and
we
sell
them,
and
so
now
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
have
each
of
them
have
a
loom
in
their
home
so
that
they
continue
to
have
that
sense
of
purpose
and
connectedness,
but
getting
back
to
the
government,
we're
a
government
and
we're
interested
in
in
improving
the
social
fabric
and
what?
What
role?
If
any,
you
talked
about
institutions
earlier
local
governments
or
institutions?
How
can
they
catalyze
weaving
so
that
we
can
be
better
together.
E
The
local
governments
are
always
so
much
healthier
and
the
relationships
between
the
people
within
working
in
the
governments
and
serving
the
governments
is
just
a
lot
healthier
than
say
in
the
united
states
congress.
So
that's
already
a
step
up.
I
do
think
government
can
do
things
if
government
can't
build
a
lot
of
the
relationships
that
are
trusting
relationships.
Those
are
built
between
people,
but
government
can
set.
The
table.
E
Government
can
use
the
schools
first
as
a
place
to
emphasize
that
a
school
is
a
community
not
just
a
factory
for
knowledge,
but
also
using
the
schools
as
hubs
for
the
surrounding
communities
with
wraparound
services,
and
things
like
that
right
and
then
government
can
set
a
place
of
even
physical
places
apart
and
something
like
that
can
clean
up
a
place
can
create
a
meeting.
Ground
government
can
also
reward
service
and
and
either
subsidize
or
somehow
provide
hosts
for
people
who
do
want
to
start
communities.
E
They
know
I
was
at
a
place
in
detroit
where
they've
taken
an
old
abandoned
school,
which
they've
got
a
lot
of
in
detroit
and
they've
just
made
it
sort
of
a
it
would
be
a
tech
hub,
but
it's
for
non-profits
and
they
all
are
in
this
big
school
and
they
all
are
interacting
and
and
the
people
in
the
neighborhood
were
suspicious
at
first
because
they
didn't
know
what's
happening
and
now
they're
enthusiastic,
because
they've
got
a
community
center
right.
And
so
there
are.
D
I'm
thinking
too,
with
schools
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
bringing
back
classes
in
civics
I
mean
just
basic:
how
do
we
live
and
and
work
together
in
community,
and
how
do
we
bring
about
change
and
not
leave
everything
to
the
highest
levels
of
legislatures
or
state
governments
in
the
atlantic?
Article
again,
you
called
out
houston
texas,
so
I'm
curious
what
what
stands
out
with
houston
or
what
do
they
have
that
we
don't.
E
Yeah
well,
arlington
may
have
it
it's
they're,
not
dissimilar.
I
mean
if
you
go
to
I'm
from
new
york
city.
I
grew
up
there
and
if
you
go
to
new
york,
you
know
where
the
midtown
is.
You
know
where
the
center
of
the
thing
is.
If
you
go
to
houston,
you
don't
know
where
the
center
there's
no
center
they've
got
a
lot
of
different
centers
and
houston
is
the
most
diverse
city
in
america.
It's
got
120
languages,
I
think
spoken
in
the
school
system
and
and
what
they've
got
is
they've
got.
E
I
just
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
centralized
the
way
we
were
when
we
were
like
basically
a
white
protestant
country,
we're
going
to
be
a
more
diverse,
pluralistic
country,
we're
not
going
to
quite
have
a
center,
but
in
houston
they
have
a
lot
of
different
centers
and
you
drive
through
houston,
and
sometimes
you
feel
like
you're
in
lagos,
nigeria.
Sometimes
you
feel
like
you're
in
vietnam.
Sometimes
you
feel
like
you're
in
china,
there's
just
all
these
little
ethnic
enclaves
and
the
thing
they
have
is
they
welcome
you
in?
E
And
so,
if
you
move
there
and
believe
me,
I'm
not
a
huge
fan
of
the
city
because
it's
kind
of
ugly,
but
but
if
you
move
there,
they
welcome
you
and
they
don't
ask
you
about
your
past.
They
ask
you
about
your
future
and
there's
a
reigning
atmosphere
of
goodwill,
and
so,
even
with
all
the
diversity
there's
good
will,
I
would
say,
toward
each
other
in
arlington
counties
like
this.
It's
obviously
got
tremendous
diversity.
D
E
How
a
child
develops
intellectually,
and
so
that's
on
my
nightstand
I've
just
finished
a
book.
Some
books
are
really
rereading
of
by
a
neuroscientist
out
at
usc
who
studies
people
who've
suffered
lesions
in
their
brain
and
they
they're
they
have
they
can't
process
emotion,
you
show
them
a
horrible
picture.
They
know
they
should
feel
shocked
by
it,
but
they
just
can't
process
emotion,
and
you
would
think
that
those
people
are
super
smart,
mr
spock's,
because
they're
so
rational
and
logical,
but
they're
incomparable.
E
They
can't
do
life
because
what
our
emotions
do
they
don't
distract
from
reason?
They
assign
value
to
things,
and
if
you
don't
know
what
the
value
of
something
is,
then
you
can't.
You
can't
make
a
decision
about
it,
and
so
he
shows
that
emotions
are
really
the
undergirding
of
reason,
not
the
opposite
of
reason.
D
E
F
E
Because
they
have
that
piece
of
them
in
them
and
it
doesn't
require
you
to
believe
in
god.
We
all
know
that
we
have
this
peace
and
it
we're
not
equal
in
our
brain
power.
We're
not
equal
in
our
muscle
power,
but
we're
equal
at
the
level
of
soul,
we're
all
equal
right
and
what
the
soul
does.
In
my
view,
is
it
it
yearns
for
goodness
it
we
want
to
do
something
that
serves
something
some
ideal,
and
so
I
just
observe
people
on
it.
E
E
Yeah
well,
libraries,
I've
never
seen
an
institution
that
has
so
successfully
transformed
itself
in
the
face
of
new
conditions.
It's
not
only
about
books,
anymore.
Libraries,
all
around
the
country
are
the
absolute
sources
of
community,
and
I
have
a
friend
eric
kleinenberg,
who
calls
them
cathedrals
for
the
people
right
and-
and
I
was
talking
to
him
as
a
sociologist-
and
he
says,
if
we
didn't
have
libraries,
would
we
have
the
courage
to
build
them?
E
Are
we
the
kind
of
society
who
built
library
would
build?
Libraries
would
build
these
fabulous
community
centers
that
are
now
doing
a
million
different
things,
and
he
said
I'm
not
sure
we
would
we
somehow
we
don't
seem
to
be
good
at
building
things
anymore
right
and
thank
god
we
have
them,
but
it
should
inspire
us.
The
creation,
libraries
and
people
think
of
andrew
carnegie,
but
mostly
it
was
county
line,
was
government
libraries
right
and
we
should.
It
should
inspire
us
to
think
about.
E
D
Well,
certainly,
arlington
library
system
began
just
as
you
described.
It
was
a
bunch
of
individuals.
It
was
women
in
garden,
clubs
and
and
book
clubs
and
cooking
clubs
who
felt
that
children
needed
some
activity
after
school
to
keep
from
being
in
trouble,
so
they
they
very
deliberately
set
about
to
create
the
neighborhood
system
that
we
still
have
today.
D
E
Well,
I
it's
funny.
I
went
back
and
reread
that
book
about
two
years
ago
and
I
was
a
little
shocked
by
it
because
it's
a
sad
book,
it's
about
this-
bear
who
comes
from
peru
and
doesn't
have
a
family
stuck
at
a
train
station
in
england
and
suddenly
a
family
sweeps
them
up
and
takes
them
in,
and
I
thought
wow.
E
So
that's
been
my
life,
that's
what
I
do
and
I
shouldn't
tell
you
this
story,
but
when
I
was
in
high
school,
my
friends
and
I
were
out
at
2
a.m
and
we
were
thought
we'd
do
some
something
daring,
that's
teen
daring,
so
we
broke
into
our
local
library
and
once
we
got
in
once
we
got
inside,
we
just
ran
around
and
then
we
left,
but
you
know,
you're
a
book
person
when
you're
you're,
active
high
school
daring
do
is
to
break
into
a
library.
We
didn't
see
any
books.
We
were.
D
E
Yeah,
well,
I
think
it
is
the
weavers
I
I've
I've
spent,
you
know
the
last
three
years
with
them
and
it's
been
a
tough
political
season,
but
they
have
lifted
me
up
every
time.
Just
amazing
people,
some
who've,
been
through
the
worst
things
you
can
imagine.
There's
a
woman
named
sarah
atkins,
I
met
outside
of
columbus
ohio
who
her
husband
killed
their
kids
and
himself
and
she's
been
through
the
worst.
You
can
imagine,
but
she
now
is
a
teacher.
She
now
has
a
free
pharmacy
because
she's
a
pharmacist.
E
She
now
has
helps
women
who
suffered
from
violence,
and
so
you
around
her
and
she
says-
I'm
not
fully
stable
and
you
know
it's.
This
has
been
three
or
four
years
and
but
it's
horrible,
and
yet
it's
a
life
of
service,
and
so
you
are
around
these
people
and
you
see
richard
rohr
who's.
A
franciscan
monk
says
they
have
a.
D
So
we
will
leave
it
there.
It's
been
a
delightful
conversation
with
you,
david
brooks,
and
we
will
let
our
readers
know
that
let's
see
it's,
we
are
weavers.org
is
your
foundation
and
we
appreciate
again
the
work
that
you're
doing
the
work
that
you
have
been
doing,
opening
our
minds
to
the
importance
of
love
and
friendship
and
relationships
and
most
of
all,
having
a
bias
toward
action,
even
if
it's
a
small
step,
one
person,
one
neighborhood
at
a
time.
D
D
Yes,
indeed,
thank
you
thanks.
Well
that
was
terrific,
and
I'm
here
now
again
with
libby
and
mark
libby,
garvey
and
mark
schwartz,
and
david
certainly
gave
us
a
lot
to
think
about.
So
before
we
start
about
next
steps
and
where
we
go
from
here,
can
you
tell
me
please
what
a
couple
of
the
key
takeaways
were?
Libby?
Let's
start
with
you,.
B
D
Right
well
that
kind
of
launched
him
on
the
journey.
He
was
stuck
on
the
first
mountain
of
success
and
then
realized
how
empty
he
felt
so
libby.
He
also
talked
about
the
value
of
institutions
where
local
government-
we
are
an
institution.
We
are
a
player
in
in
transformation.
So
what
do
you
think?
What
do
you
think
of
the
idea
of
institutions
in
the
role
they.
B
D
B
Love
what
he
talked
about
government
setting
the
table
right
because
I
mean,
and
let's
face
it
government-
is
how
people
organize
themselves
in
societies.
If
we're
talking
about
community
you've
got
to
have
a
government
of
some
sort,
and
I
think
his
point
about
setting
the
table
we're
supposed
to
set
the
circumstances
for
people
to
thrive
and
to
make
sure
that
we
make
sure
everyone
thrives,
which-
and
I
know
we'll
get
into
it
later.
That's
part
of
the
whole
deal
with
systemic
racism,
because
sometimes
government
sets
the
table
and
some
people
get
to
the
table.
F
D
And,
of
course,
I've
got
to
throw
a
plug
in
for
libraries.
He
called
us
what
civic
cathedrals.
Yes,
that's
now
going
to
go
on
our
website,
our
new
tagline,
the
other,
the
other
part
of
it
that
really
struck
me
was,
of
course,
the
features
on
our
own
weavers.
We
have
the
dhs
arlington
weavers,
and
then
we
had
the
three
who
were
featured
yesterday
in
the
in
the
conversation
between
the
two
of
us.
D
C
B
Yeah,
no,
I
I
really
loved
the
the
fact
that
they
were
sort
of
ordinary
people,
extraordinary
ordinary
people
and
I
think,
that's
part
of
the
theme.
It's
just.
It's
really
wonderful
and
I
think
it
keeps
us
all
going.
I
think,
particularly
by
the
time
you
get
to
a
certain
age,
many
of
us
have
when
you
go
through
a
hard
time.
I
I
think
everybody
finds
if
you
can
not
focus
on
yourself
and
the
difficulties
you're
having
focus
on
helping
others,
you
feel
so
much
better.
You
feel
so
much
better.
Well,.
D
And
brooke's
talked
a
lot
about
that:
you're
surrendering
the
ego
in
service
to
other
people
and
all
of
those
folks
hit
those
notes
of
love
and
kindness
and
reaching
out-
and
it's
not
about
me-
and
I
I
thought
each
of
those
stories
was
incredibly
powerful.
So
let's
talk
about
how
we
can
grow
more
weavers
because
they
have
demonstrated
that
really
everybody
anyone
can
be
a
weaver
and
we
have
a
series
of
race
and
equity
conversations
that
we're
launching
in
the
community
and
we're
expecting
those
to
be
both
challenging
but
ultimately
transforming
conversations.
D
C
Yeah
this,
this
is
something
I've
been
thinking
about,
especially
since
I
got
to
you
know.
Listen
to
the
interview
you
had
with
david
brooks
having
the
conversations
about
diversity
and
race
and
equity.
They
are
not
easy
things
to
do.
We're
asking
people
to
literally
open
themselves
up
and
say
here
are
some
problems.
I
have
and
concerns,
and
it's
very
taxing
and
will
be
very
emotional
for
a
lot
of
people
and
I'm
not
going
to
pretend
to
speak
for
all
the
people
who
participate
in
it.
C
But
I
will
tell
you
that
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
reaching
an
understanding
on
an
intellectual
level.
I
think
is
important,
but
unless
you
tie
it
with
actual
acts
of
kindness
right
acts
of
giving
to
the
community
at
the
end
of
the
day,
unless
we
do
that,
we
will
really
thought
through
the
problem
really
well,
but
we
will
not
have
really
changed
the
community,
so
I
think
marrying
up
the
tough
conversations
with
actual
actions
on
the
part
of
every
individual.
B
Yeah,
you
know
I'm
thinking
about
how
our
colleague
christian
dorsey,
when
he
talks
about
these
conversations,
says
that
you
know
these
are
difficult
conversations
and
because
they
are
that
you
tend
to
only
have
them
with
people
who
are
kind
of
in
your
own
bubble.
If
you
will
people
that
you
are
comfortable
with
that,
you
have
similar
views
with
you,
don't
sit
down
and
talk
about
racism
with
somebody
that
you
don't
know
and
don't
really
know
where
they're
coming
from
or
they
come
from
a
different
place
and
that's
the
table.
B
We're
trying
to
set
here
is
to
bring
people
together
and
part
of
the
reason
you
know,
I
think
sometimes
people
might
say
well,
people
just
need
to
talk,
give
us
some
questions
and
we'll
just
talk
well.
The
fact
is,
I
think,
as
mark
talked
about
that
this
is
difficult
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
little
painful,
and
so
the
point
is
not,
which
is
kind
of
typically
arlington
about
all
those
those
things
in
the
drawers.
People
are
just
policy
wonks
right.
G
B
D
I
also
want
to
remind
the
community
that
we
have
a
questionnaire
that
we
distributed
and
that
we
have
available
through
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
so
that
people
can
do
a
self
reflection
on
where
they
are
on
the
race
and
equity
continuum,
and
I
think
we'll
use
that
as
one
of
the
tools
to
open
up
conversations
among
ourselves.
So
if
you
don't
know
about
the
questionnaire,
if
you
haven't
looked
at
it
yet
it
will
be
available
on
the
county
website.
D
So
in
in
wrapping
up
this
conversation.
He
has
this
beautiful
phrase
for
these
times
of
tumult,
which
is
looking
for
the
spots
of
beauty
in
a
storm
and
that
that
more
than
anything,
I
think
has
stuck
with
me
and
resonated
with
me
as
we
close
out
what
are
examples
of
the
spots
of
beauty
in
the
storm
that
each
of
you
think
about
what
gets
you
through.
C
So
I'm
going
to
pick
two
one,
which
is
just
an
example
of
an
organization
that
started
up
about
five
or
six
years
ago.
Arlington
neighborhood
villages
were
where
people
literally
on
their
own
spontaneously,
decided
that
they
were
going
to
reach
out
and
help
other
people
who
might
not
be
able
to
drive
places
or
assist
with
tasks.
C
B
Yeah,
you
know-
and
I
I
loved
it
the
way
sharon
talked
to
I
didn't
know
she
had
all
those
roots
in
arlington.
Of
course,
they're
staying
here,
they're
part
of
our
family
in
our
community,
which
is
really
really
special,
very
arlington.
You
know
for
me,
I
keep
coming
back
to.
I
think
it's
the
randolph
pta.
B
You
know
we
get
so
many
examples,
and
I
will
tell
you
I
get
you
know
emails
and
seeing
things
in
a
you
know,
we
get
a
lot
of
criticism
from
people
they're
people
that
are
upset,
understandably
so,
but
we
also
keep
hearing
about
good
things
that
are
happening.
They're
like
little
sparks
of
light.
You
know
that
kind
of
keeps
you
going
and
the
randolph
pta
they
just
keep
going
every
week.
B
They
pull
together
bags
of
groceries
and
feed
about
150
250
families
a
week,
and
they
just
kept
going
and
at
one
point
so
randolph
is
you
know,
of
course,
in
a
part
of
arlington
where
they
have
a
lot
of
families
in
their
school
community
that
need
that
needs,
support,
but
and
also
jamestown
pta,
which
they
don't
have
many
people
with
need.
They
they
started.
Putting
together
bags
of
groceries
and
bringing
them
to
randolph
to
distribute.
F
B
D
Yeah
I
mean
it
was
just
a
beautiful
phrase
and
just
back
to
the
weta
influence,
I
grew
up
in
arlington
as
as
both
of
you
know-
and
I
was
an
early
viewer
of
weta
in
at
tuckahoe
elementary.
The
big
tv
would
be
rolled
into
the
classroom
one
day
a
week
for
a
french
lesson.
I
didn't
retain
much,
but
it
just
speaks
to
its
long-standing
adherence
and
advocacy
for
education
and
and
culture,
and
really
celebrating
the
community
so
kudos
to
weta
for
their
work
and
for
their
continued
relationship
with
us.
F
C
Their
own
ability
to
make
change,
and
don't
I
mean,
if
you
have
that
spark
which
both
of
you
have
mentioned,
try
to
capture
it
and
move
ahead
with
it
and
I'm
an
optimist.
I
think
that
there's
an
enormous
amount
of
power
in
the
individual,
working
and
working
collectively
in
the
community,
so
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
B
Yeah,
I
love
that
point
mark
and
you
know
david
brooks
talked
about
soul.
We
all
have
a
soul
and
and
everybody's
got
that
spark
in
them.
Everybody
does
and
we
all
just
need
to
help.
We
we
in
government
need
to
help
set
the
table
and
just
as
individuals
do
whatever
we
can
to
pull
out
and
and
and
bring
out
that
spark.
You
know
I
I
was.
I
keep
thinking
back
to
this
children's
movie,
although
it
was
for
adults
too.
B
Cinderella
that
came
out
about
five
or
six
years
ago
took
my
granddaughter
to
it
and
it
was
a
great
kind
of
modern
remake
with
a
powerful
cinderella.
But
her
theme
was
have
courage
and
be
kind,
have
courage
and
be
kind,
and
I
think,
as
we
go
into
these
courageous
conversations
and
continue
to
get
through
this
storm,
that
is
the
pandemic.
If
we
all
have
courage
and
are
kind
we're
going
to
be
just
fine
and.
D
If
we
can
be
humble
and
and
gracious-
and
you
know
frankly,
just
cut
one
another
a
little
bit
of
slack,
I
think
that
goes
a
long
way.
I'm
I'm
also
on
team
optimism
and
I
look
forward
to
the
next
several
months.
Thank
you
both
for
your
conversation
and
thoughts
this
afternoon
and
looking
forward
to
the
next
chapter.