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From YouTube: Here/now: Interview with Pat Creed Pt. 3
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This special segment of AVN's monthly magazine show, "Here/now", features Director of Arlington County Library Diane Kresh interviewing Pat Creed, co-author of the book: "Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11."
A
B
Was
assigned
the
acting
officer
on
truck
105,
we
were
in
the
station
at
the
time
of
the
plane
crash
gentlemen,
Ron
christman
and
my
driver
is
not
hear
of
Brian
Roche.
We
heard
the
impact
and,
as
we
believe
in
the
station
we
heard
captain
McCoy
land
in
g
one
and
one
who
said
it
was
constantly
around
the
fourteenth
Street
bridge.
We
started
out
that
way
and,
as
we
got
a
little
bit
free
pass
the
station
we
realize
it
was
the
Pentagon
there.
C
Was
also
a
credible,
not
symbolism
involved.
You
know
the
Pentagon
on
the
seat
of
power,
the
military
strength
in
the
United
States,
obviously
a
target
for
the
terrorists.
The
personal
stories,
though,
for
me
really
stick
out
and
and
really
capture
the
whole
spirit
of
what
happened
and
what
we've
learned
as
a
nation.
Since
then,
you
interviewed
hundreds
of
people
in
the
course
of
doing
the
research
joins.
A
So
many
the
hardest
hardest
part
was
editing
down
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
could
keep
in
the
book.
You
know
the
initial
manuscript
was
900
pages
long
and
that
sounds
400.
You
can
imagine
was
twice
as
thick
as
this
book
and
it
was
painful
to
have
to
take
out
stories
of
heroism
by
these
firefighters
are
just
resilient
and
what
they
did
it
just
it
was
a
man.
You
know.
Chief
cornwell
was
one
of
the
stories
that
were
he
just
said,
I'm
not
leaving
one.
A
You
know
ed
Han,
another
firefighter
who
kept
going
trying
to
get
in
to
save
people
spinal
cuz
of
obstacles-
hey.
We
just
saw
so
many
stories
like
that
it.
It
was
really
impressive
in
not
only
that,
but
a
certain
level
of
toughness
so
where
are
linked
in
a
small
Department,
stood
up
for
itself
and
said
this
is
our
incident
we're
running
it?
We've
got
it
and
people
like
Bob
Gray,
who
are
getting
challenged
by
government
officials
to
how
they're
supposed
to
go
and
do
this
operation,
though
we're
not
going
to
do
it.
A
That
way,
we're
we're
running
the
show
we're
going
to
do
it
the
safest
way
possible.
So
no
one
gets
hurt.
Then
we
do
this
operation
effectively
right
and
it
was
just
impressive.
They
keep
going
on.
Scott
McKay
was
had
a
special
operation,
did
a
phenomenal
job
and
working
with
seamless,
search
and
rescue
teams
from
around
the
country
that
arrived,
but
it
was
still
Arlington
that
was
directing
how
all
the
efforts
would
go
and
they
all
work
together.
C
C
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
struck
me.
It's
a
tragedy
created
the
sort
of
equalized,
in
effect
where
everybody
was
involved
in
the
same
thing,
but
you
said
something
about
the
character
of
firefighters
anyway,
that
their
their
bravery,
zor,
courageousness
or
heroism
their
ability
to
withstand
that
kind
of
calamitous
situation.
Just
seems
to
me
extraordinary
people,
men
and
women-
go
into
that
field
and
they're
drawn
because
it's
it's
exciting,
but
it's
also,
it
seems
like
it.
A
Just
thing
to
remember
about,
when
you
see
firefighters
and
police
officers,
the
sheriff
thinks
people
took
those
jobs,
they
wanted
to
get
rent
sure
they
did
it
because
they
had
a
driving
interested
want
to
help
and
when
push
comes
to
shove-
and
you
have
that
terrible
incident,
like
I
said
so
many
the
firefighters
told
me
as
they
arrived
at
the
scene.
They
alter
the
burning,
Pentagon
and
said
we're
going
to
die
right.
C
A
Dead,
we're
walking
towards
the
building
there's
smoke,
there's
flame
Andrea
Kaiser,
who
drove
engine
101
with
Captain
Steve
McCoy
said
it
wasn't
scares
most
year,
she'd
been
in
their
entire
life
and
they
still
win
it
right
it
in
a
style.
Whether
people
who
are
too
scared
to
go
of
course,
that
that.
C
A
But
you
know
everyone
we
heard
in
the
Arlington
County
Department.
You
just
can't
really
explain
even
how
tough
it
is
to
go
into.
This
is
a
war
situation.
Nobody
knew
how
many
more
planes
were
coming,
how
long
they
are
going
to
be
there,
how
bad
the
fire
was
they
just
kept
going,
and
that
was
the
police.
You
know
purple
bow
skeleton
police
department
actually
saw
the
plane
coming
in,
but
it
was
the
first
person
to
call
in
that
plane
down
at
the
Pentagon,
followed
by
Derek.
A
Spector
was
the
first
fire
fire
at
the
scene
to
call
it
in
there
expect
her
acting
is
Captain
on
the
truck.
Only
there's
three
guys
are
Ford.
They
only
had
three
they're
the
first
people
to
get
there
right.
He
had
to
call
in
and
explain
it
on
the
radio.
You
can
hear
the
tape
transmissions
and
trying
to
very
deliberately
explain
that
you
can
see
the
Pentagon
is
frying.
C
A
And
the
more
I
learn,
especially
when
you
went
to,
though
I
went
to
county
fire
houses,
and
these
guys
are,
like
you
know,
I
think
we
might
have
had
the
biggest
and
most
complicated
roof
operation
and
then
history
of
the
country
in
terms
of
firefighting,
Andrea,
you
in
your
glow,
you
know
I,
think
they're
right.
But
how
do
these?
How
do
you
these
people
not
get
the
recognition
for
the
right
now?
What
happened
in
New
York
was
so
overwhelmingly
tragic.
It
would
all
happened,
live
on
TV.
A
We
all
thought
it
was
easy
to
forget
about
the
Pentagon,
but
in
itself,
if
New
York
hadn't
happened,
911
would
still
be
that
day
in
American
history,
where
the
Pentagon
got
hit.
Mole
people
killed
in
Oklahoma
City,
one
of
the
most
recognizable
buildings
in
the
entire
world,
struck
by
a
hijacked
jetliner.
This
this
story
would
have
stood
on
its
own
for
years,
and
you
know
the
firefighters,
so
many
of
them
and
other
rescuers
and
police
and
said
you
know
they
they're
glad
they
got
to
serve,
but
they
were
a
will.
A
You
know
it
was
a
little
painful
to
know
that
they
seem
to
be
overlooked
in
history
and
it
was
a
challenge.
I
had
no
idea
how
to
write
a
book
when
I
started
this,
and
it
was
far
more
difficult
than
I
imagined
and
but
very
satisfying
on
the
lie
to
came
out
and
my
co-author,
especially
being
a
professional
journalist,
made
it.
He
kept
hammering
me
again
and
again
and
again
this
is
you
need
to
be
proud
of
this.
No
errors
confirm
everything
right.
A
C
Well,
it
really
is
an
extraordinary
story.
I
mean
I,
found
myself
really
gripped.
I
grew
up
to
do
up
here
as
well.
I
was
here
on
911
I
mean
was
in
another
federal
agency
at
the
time
working.
So
it's
one
of
those
events
as
fearing
for
me
today,
as
the
Kennedy
assassination
was
in
1963.
It's
one
of
those
things.
We
always
remember
where
you
were
what
you
were
thinking,
so
that
the
story
certainly
is
compelling.
C
We've
done
a
wonderful
job,
you
and
Rick
Newman
in
presenting
the
story,
which
I
think
is
really
about
a
community
coming
together
and
doing
something
extraordinary
in
the
face
of
unknown
and
potential
other
disasters
that
was
one
of
the
things
is
significant
about
that
day.
Is
that
we
didn't
know
what
else
was
coming
and
still
people
were
showing
up
and
doing
their
job
and
motivated
by
something,
as
you
said
earlier,
more
than
a
dental
plan
or
a
paycheck.