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From YouTube: Long Range Planning Committee Meeting 2500 Wilson Boulevard SGLUP Study Tier | January 31, 2023
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A
This
is
a
hybrids
meeting
to
go
over
2500
Wilson
Boulevard
special
Club
study
tier
one
review
before
we
get
in
a
further
I
have
a
number
of
opening
remarks
about
how
this
will
all
work
tonight.
A
A
A
Housing
Commission
Transportation
Commission,
if
they're
on,
let
me
know
on
yet
so
they
are
seeing
in
10,
so
they
would
probably
be
coming
on
as
we're
talking
I'd
like
to
orient
everyone
to
how
this
hybrid
environment
works
and
cover
a
few
specifics
about
tonight's
meeting
will
be
run
members
of
the
public.
They
attend
the
meeting
here
in
person
or
electronically
by
using
the
Microsoft
teams
link
provided
on
the
lrpc
web
pages,
County's
events
calendar
and
the
email
notification
sent
out
to
the
lrpc
email
subscribers.
A
Additionally,
there
is
a
dilated
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it
formal
planning,
Commissioners
joined.
Virtually
anyone
loses
internet
connectivity
to
our
today's
meeting,
these
reconnect
with
us
by
phone
and
that
such
many
Commissioners
that's
for
anybody
who's
at
at
the
virtual
table,
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you're
called
upon
and
turn
off
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
you
to
minimize
interference
to
the
virtual
attendees
using
Microsoft
teams.
A
A
While
these
will
be
monitored,
they
will
not
be
formally
acknowledged
that
may
address
these
comments.
The
team's
chat
should
not
be
used
for
discussion
or
any
inappropriate
statements.
Those
who
are
planning
to
provide
public
comment
they'll
need
to
do
so
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
as
the
chat
will
not
serve
as
that
opportunity.
A
All
public
comments
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record
during
the
assigned
public
testimony
periods.
I'd
also
like
to
remind
everybody
in
the
room
to
speak
up
slowly
and
clearly
for
microphones
at
the
top
of
the
ceiling.
Here,
that's
what
we're
really
talking
towards
when
we're
at
the
table
that
will
allow
the
virtual
participants
to
hear
us.
In
addition,
if
you'd
like
to
share
your
screen,
please
request
permission
from
me
the
other
piece
chair
prior
to
doing
so
we're
planning,
commissioners
or
subgroup
members
a
commissioner.
Those
subgroup
members
participated.
A
Virtually
we
recognized
to
speak
on
an
item
during
the
course
Community.
Please
turn
on
your
video
feed
and
raise
your
virtual
hand.
Teams,
I
is
full
of
one
of
the
staff.
Member
staff
will
monitor
those
video
feeds
that
are
on
as
you
indicator
of
who
would
like
to
speak
so
you'll
be
joining
my
phone
I
think
we
do
have
some
commission
members
and
other
members
of
the
public
or
other
members
of
the
lrpc
will
be
attending
virtually
yes,
Jason
area
is
on
one
of
the
members.
A
That's
so
far
as
others
joined
will
receive.
The
requirements
for
members
of
the
public
would
like
to
provide
feedback
and
comment,
unlike
it
any
commission's
regular
meetings.
The
lrpc
agenda
item
is
not
overhearing.
Therefore,
a
public
comment
is
that
the
lrbc
chair
discretion
after
the
commission
Community
discussions
concluded
if
you
are
signed
up
or
indicate
you're
interested
in
making
public
comment.
You'll
be
called
upon
to
speak
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
be
done
on
tonight's
item.
A
Speaking
technological
depend
on
the
number
of
speakers,
I'll
call
for
speakers
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
Alaska's
childhood
to.
Let
me
know
if
we
have
virtual
attendees
who'd
like
to
provide
comment.
This
chapter
will
acknowledge
speakers
in
the
team
chat
you
duplicate
in
the
chat
if
you'd
like
to
provide
comment
or
your
enabled,
so
your
name
can
be
added
to
the
list
of
speakers.
A
Members
of
the
public
attending
virtually
will
speak
first,
followed
by
the
in-person.
When
virtual
attendees
are
called
upon
speed.
You
must
unmute
Yourself
by
clicking
on
the
microphone
icon
located
on
your
meeting
command
bar
moderator
does
not
have
the
ability
to
unmute.
You
will
then
mute
it
when
your
time
has
concluded
an
alternative.
Public
comment
is
available
and
need
to
be
provided.
A
A
With
that
we're
ready
to
move
on
to
our
meeting
the
way
we're
going
to
work
first
tonight
we'll
have
a
staff
presentation
from
Margaret
Rhodes
and
Tim
Murphy,
I,
guess,
Matt
from
the
Department
of
Community
planning
and
Housing
and
Development
after
they're
concluded.
We
will
have
a
presentation
by
the
applicant.
We
have
all
the
lead
vice
president
of
acquisition
to
development
from
TMG
the
applicant,
the
then
move
on
to
discussion,
so
Rhodes
yeah,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
let's
first
go
over
the
table.
Make
sure
we
know
who
we
all
are.
B
Sally,
it
means
certainly,
commissioner
Saturday
from
the
Planning
Commission
evening:
Oliver
Lee,
hi
Kendrick,
Whitmore
I'm.
F
Jackie
Snelling
lion,
Village,
citizen
Association.
Let's.
A
Go
to
our
online
attendees
if
you're,
a
member
of
the
table
of
the
lrpc,
raise
your
virtual
hands,
so
we
can
call
on
you
want.
G
G
H
Hey
everybody
I'm
Jason
Harrier
from
Lion
Village
citizens,
Association.
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
anybody
else.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
so
the
roads,
it's
yours.
C
F
The
special
Channel
land
use
plan
policy,
site
location,
the
requested,
Amendment
and
then
we'll
move
to
the
staff
analysis
and
preliminary
staff
recommendation
compared
to
the
special
General
land
use
plans.
Study
background
in
2008,
the
County
Board
adopted
the
policy
for
consideration
of
General
land
use,
plan
amendments
unanticipated
by
previous
planning
efforts,
and
this
policy
calls
for
a
community
review
process.
F
F
To
determine
if
it
is
in
the
tier
2
study
is
appropriate
and
then
we
have,
of
course,
the
lrpc
discussion
and
it's
formalized
in
a
memo
from
the
lrp
secure
two
staff
summarizing
alert
see
process.
The
tier
one
review
would
then
conclude
with
a
letter
from
the
cphd
director
regarding
accept
this
denial
or
a
recommendation
for
a
different
type
of
study
ability.
F
Question
is:
should
this
be
studied
further
and
if
so,
through.
G
F
Process,
what
would
be
most
appropriate
if
this
was
to
advance
to
the
tier
2
review?
That
is,
would
be
a
full
review
via
the
tier
two
process.
Other
options
could
include
a
small
area
plan,
a
pdfp
review,
a
card
or
study.
There
are
other
types
of
evaluation
processes
that
may
be
more
appropriate
and
then
should
it
be
deemed
appropriate.
G
F
Plan
to
eventually
be
amended,
the
project
could
advance
to
the
site
plan
review
process,
so
it
is
at
the
site
plan
review
process
where
more
detailed,
a
more
detailed
analysis
of
an
actual
project
would
be
evaluated.
So
this
phase
is
really
looking
at
a
high
level
land
use
and
then,
if
it
was
to
advance
to
the
sperc
process,
that's
when
you
look
at
more
detailed
things
like
it's
like
architecture,
tapers.
F
F
F
The
block
is
founded
by
Wilson
Boulevard
to
the
North
Clarendon
Boulevard
to
the
South
North
Barton
Street
to
the
East
and
North
Cleveland
Street
to
the
West
black
from
prices,
apparently
1.42
acres
and
is
currently
occupied
by
a
five-story
office.
Building
the
block
is
bordered
by
low-scale
retail,
to
the
north
presidential
development,
to
the
South
retail
parking
and
a
temporary
public
space
to
the
east
and
then
a
courthouse.
The
courthouse,
West
General
Amy's
plan
study
was
just
concluded
for
the
block
to
the
left.
F
This
is
an
excerpt
from
the
general
Landings
plan
or
Club.
Subject:
block
is
designated
low
office
apartment
Hotel,
the
north
along
Wilson
Boulevard
is
service.
Commercial
development
bordering
the
lion
Village
neighborhood,
but
the
south
is
high
residential.
The
East
is
high,
medium
mixed
use
and
to
the
West
is
currently
service
commercial.
Although
the
County
Board
authorized
the
advertisement
of
medium
office,
Department
of
Health
for
this
site
in
September
of
2022.
C
F
I
F
One
of
those
categories
is
high
office
apartment
Hotel,
which
corresponds
with
C
the
co
mixed-use
District
So
Co
allows
for
up
to
three
point,
far
or
office
use
and
up
to
4.8
FDR
for
residential
and
3.8
FDR
for
hotel
and
Heights
from
153
to
180
feet,
depending
on
the
use
the
other
General.
Ladies
tonight,
category
that's
was
requested,
is
medium
office
apartment
hotel,
which
corresponds
with
Co
2.5
co2.5.
F
Heights
range
from
12
to
16
stories,
depending
on
the
use
the
applicant
is
requesting
the
glove
amendment
to
high
office
apartment
compelled
or
medium
office,
Department
Hotel,
because
in
1993
Courthouse
sector
plan
and
denim
calls
for
higher
density,
commercial,
residential
and
excuse,
but
it
does
not
specify
a
specific
love
bird
zoning
category.
This
would
allow
the
applicant
to
develop
up
to
up
to
16
stories
if
we
were
to
go
under
CO2
points
and
now
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Oliver.
For
the.
J
Great
well,
thank
you,
everyone
for
being
here
and
taking
the
time
to
speak
about
this
project
with
us.
We
appreciate
it
the
the
site
we
we
all
know
well,
it's
the
lower
density
five-story
office
building
across
the
street
from
a
Realty
block.
Girls
posted
good
food
to
the
north
to
the
South.
There's,
there's
the
residential
residential
really
really
get
started
right
along
along
this
block
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
block
demonstration
shown
in
the
bottom
right
photo.
J
J
There's
is
actually
a
little
bit
of
available
density
on
the
Block.
As
is
we
don't
want
to
build
that
out
right
now,
it
doesn't
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
do
so.
I
would
like
to
touch
on
TMG
as
a
larger
organization.
On
several
Office
Buildings
in
the
in
the
market
and
I
think
everyone
knows
well
office
is
very
challenging
right
now,
and
we
believe
that
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
to
take
a
site
offline
and
change
it
to
a
retail
or
sorry.
J
A
residential
use
that
will
be
productive
used
for
the
entire
Community
I
will
bring
more
retail
on
the
ground
floor,
we'll
bring
more
functional,
productive,
open
space
and
continue
to
contribute
to
the
ecosystem.
That
is
the
RV
Corridor.
That
I
think
everyone
in
the
center
of
Europe
we're
all
sitting
here.
We
want
to
see
it
be
successful.
J
J
Sure,
sorry
about
that
I
would
talk
a
little
bit
louder.
As
Margaret
mentioned
the
block
next
door.
The
courthouse
West
block
was
recently
recommended
for
Co
2.5.
J
Initially
our
block
was
was
recommended
for
Co.
After
several
discussions
with
community
members
staff
plan
Commissioners,
we
believe
we
can
achieve
the
goals
that
we
originally
set
out
to
achieve
with
the
co
2.5
designation,
some
of
those
just
to
list
a
few
out
are
sustainable
biophilic
elements.
That
is
a
priority
not
only
for
our
organization
just
for
psu's
standpoint,
but
also
for
this
project
from
a
range
of
unit
sizes.
J
Due
to
the
the
unit
constraint
with
the
co
2.5
designation,
we
believe
that
will
that
will
result
in
some
larger
floor
plans,
three
four
bedroom
units
which
are
not
not
commonly
available
throughout
the
sub
Market,
and
we
believe
that
that
deep,
retail
and
open
space
again
and
just
general
streetscape
will
greatly
be
improved
beyond
the
current
condition.
J
We
do
think
that
the
given
the
bullseye,
the
bullseye
approach,
which
I
know
has
been
spoken
about
it
nauseam
for
the
for
the
glove
study
adjacent
to
this
one.
We
believe
that
that
this
block
is
logical
to
take
a
slight
step
up
from
the
the
hike
happens,
14
stories
on
the
courthouse,
West
block
the
recommended
height
cap,
going
up
to
16,
which
is
the
maximum
in
the
co
2.5
designation
as
we
get
closer
to
the
Metro.
J
So
we
believe
that
all
of
these
features
of
Co
2.5
will
will
still
allow
us
to
have
a
successful
project.
We
believe
that
Co,
you
know
had
this
similar
similar
characteristics
to
allow
us
to
achieve
that.
But
we
do.
We
do
think
that
we'll
be
able
to
still
provide
an
impactful
project
for
the
community.
J
G
J
During
a
4
0.1
process-
and
we
welcome
it,
we
think
it's
important
and
we're
we're
not
a
we're,
not
ignoring
it,
and
pushing
that
that
density
and
massing
around
on
the
site
to
make
it
the
least
impactful
for
lower
density
structures
nearby,
but
most
impactful
from
a
pedestrian
experience,
and
by
that
I
mean
if
we're
able
to
pull
the
building
up
a
little
bit
more,
we
can
depend
push
it
back
on
the
street
and
create
more
open
space
at
the
ground
level,
greater
pedestrian
retail
interaction
and
again
continue
to
to
build
out
the
connectivity
between
warehouse
and
Clarendon,
which
is
in
this.
J
This
location
specifically
dies
a
little
bit
so
16
stories
will
allow
us
to
continue
to
to
achieve
those.
You
know
in
a
more
significant
way
that
a
lower
height
cap
would
again
this.
This
slide
is
intended
to
just
demonstrate
the
optionality
that
we
will
consider-
and
you
know,
have
I'm
sure,
extensive
discussions
with
community
Civic
associations
and
staff
as
this
overall
and
we
look
forward
to
it.
J
J
J
We
showed
in
just
proximity
to
the
Metro
under
a
five
minute,
walk
to
where
you
can
actually
get
into
that
Metro
entrance
and
a
much
higher
density
does
higher
density
designations
that
the
co
3.5
that
we
all.
J
So
that
that's
all
I
have
prepared
just
wanted
to
hit
on
a
few
few
items
that
we
were
thinking
of
Welcome
questions.
You
know
later
on
during
the
discussion
and
answer.
F
I
F
Okay,
now
we
will
move
on
to
the
staff
analysis
and
then
special
about
study
evaluation.
So
we
have
the
process,
the
right
criteria
and
some
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
as
part
of
our
review
revolve
around
various
topics.
The
one
is
support
for
County
Gold,
with.
F
F
G
F
And
then,
in
terms
of
our
existing
policy
guidance,
of
course
we
have
the
general
land
use
plan
and
are
in
the
general
ladies
plan,
booklet
we've
had
our
development
and
growth
goals,
which
provide
some
guidance
they
solve
for
concentrating
high
density,
residential
commercial
office
development
within
our
Metro
station
areas,
promoting
mixed-use
development
again
in
the
Metro
's
increasing
the
supply
of
housing
by
encouraging
construction
of
a
variety
of
housing,
types
and
prices
and
a
range
of
heights
and
densities
in
a
near
Metro
station
areas.
K
The
next
set
of
slides
review,
existing
plan
guidance
for
the
2500
Wilson
Boulevard
block,
as
well
as
the
adjacent
area,
so
going
back.
First
in
1981,
County
Board
adopted
the
courthouse
sector
plan
which
planned
for
Ring
of
development
around
the
courthouse,
Metro
Station,
as
well
as
a
Government
Center.
K
K
In
1984,
the
County
board
approved
the
glove
Amendment
rezoning
and
site
plan.
More
than
2500
Wilson
Boulevard
block
the
globe.
Amendment
back
then
changed
the
designation
to
low
office
apartment
Hotel.
The
site
plan
resulted
in
the
five-story
office
building
that
exists
on
the
Block.
Today,
this
development
precedes
the
adoption
of
the
courthouse
sector
plan
addendum
it's
adopted
in
1993,
12
years
later
after
the
courthouse
sector
plan,
the
addendum
provided
updated
planning
guidance
for
this
block
and
identified
the
location
within.
K
Area
that's
identified
for
higher
density,
commercial,
residential,
mixed
use.
Development
addendum
includes
little
explanatory
texts
regarding
this
designation
and
did
not
recommend
or
identify
a
specific
glove
Amendment
or
glove
designation
or
designations
that
would
that
would
hire
density,
commercial,
residential,
mixed
use
classification.
K
K
Go
back
one
size,
the.
H
K
G
K
K
The
map
shown
here
illustrates
the
approximate
existing
building
Heights
around
the
area
when
considering
these
Heights
see
that
much
of
the
development
that
has
existed
since
back
before
the
courthouse
sector
plan
in
1981
is
lower
scale.
Commercial
development
of
approximately
one
to
three
stories,
I
think
the
best
you
can
find
that
on
the
north
side
of
Wilson
mobile
Garden,
more
recent
development
consists
of
taller
developments.
G
K
Finally,
this
slide
looks
at
Building
height
guidance
that
that
exists
today
for
the
2500
Wilson
Boulevard
block
the
surrounding
area
and
Courthouse.
So
what
this
map
does
it
identifies
the
the
general
land
use
plan
designations
and
then
the
maximum
height
that
would
be
allowed
in
the
zoning
districts
that
are
found
in
each
designation
within
the
area.
The
existing
guidance
generally
envisions
building
Heights
decreasing,
as
if
you
move
away
from
the
courthouse,
Metro
Station
and
we
see
Heights
of
up
to
180
be
closer
to
the
station.
F
Wilson
they'll
pass
it
back
to
Margaret
to
do
the
presentation
so
in
terms
of
our
staff
analysis.
Looking
back
at
those
questions
for
discussion
that
we
already
identified,
you
know
in
terms
of
support
for
County
goals,
as
we
saw
the.
F
F
In
terms
of
the
most
recent
guidance,
as
Tim
mentioned,
we
have
the
2022
Courthouse
West
special
Club
study
document,
which
provides
various
recommendations,
including
noting
that
Medium
office
potential
starting
point
creation
for
this
subject
site
and
that
you
know,
as
Jason
site
as
we
saw
for
the
courthouse.
West
allows
for
building
Heights.
F
Now
we'll
move
on
to
our
recommendations,
so
we
have
two
different
recommendations.
The
first
option
is
a
streamlined
review.
Through
the
site
plan
review
committee
process.
F
F
You
know,
as
the
we
said
before,
the
courthouse
West
special
Club
study
document
notes
medium
office
apartment
hotel
as
a
possible
starting
point
for
consideration
for
this
subject's
law
high
medium
residential
mixed
use,
which
is
also
the
designation
of
the
block
to
the
east,
but
also
potentially
be
considered,
and
then
in
terms
of
the
proposed
Building
height
density
transitions.
F
The
second
option
that
we
are
recommending
is
evaluation
is
part
of
a
broader
Metro
station
area
or
metro
card
or
analysis
propose.
A
land
use
Amendment
for
the
site
could
also
be
evaluated
through
a
broader
study.
I
would
not
look
not
just
at
this
site,
but
at
other
nearby
sites
within
the
Roslyn
involvement.
G
F
Here,
weapons
running
designations
that
we've
discussed
and
then
we
would
like
to
ask
if
there
are
any
clarifying
questions
that
anyone
has
and
then
we
would
like
to
hear
your
feedback
on
the
proposed
process
options.
First,
the
streamlined
review
for.
F
A
Thank
you.
So
it
is
now
all
over
discussion
of
the
table
in
the
virtual
table
and,
as
as
said,
first
we'll
do
clarifying
questions
so
I'll
go
around
if
anybody
has
any
either
staff
or
the
applicant
Now's
the
Time,
to
ask
questions.
Anybody
virtual
raise
your
hand
if
sections.
C
A
Table's
open
commission
control
first
yeah.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Mr,
chairman
Mr
Rhodes
I'm,
wondering
in
your
slide
34
by
proceeding,
I.
Guess
cyber
seating,
this
one,
you
reference.
Oh
sorry,
it's
I
think
it's
your
supply!
36!
Apologies!
C
F
We
were
thinking
that
it's
the
designation
for
the
site,
the
East
and
it
could
potentially
be
appropriate
here.
You
know,
as
you
can
see,
RC
allows
for
up
to
3.24
far
enough
to
do
95
feet.
So
that's
another
designation
like
this
potentially
be
considered.
It
is
not
the
one
requested
by
recommended
coming
out
of
the
document.
B
A
Right
you're
next
yeah.
E
J
Based
on
the
staff's
work
and
really
everyone
in
this
room
worked
on
once
proposal,
we
think
it
gives
great
justification
and
reasoning
for
Co
2.5
and
the
discussions
as
we
as
we
saw
that
process
unfold.
We
think
that
Co
2.5
will
achieve
ment
and
so
going
to
the
co
route,
and
we
may
not
achieve
much
more
is
ultimately
what
we're
concluding
and
you
know,
potentially
requiring
significant
resources
at
people
in
history.
Collectively
there
is
included
and
we
don't
want
to
missions,
and
we
think
the
work
that
was
done
is
great.
E
Work
and-
and
why
do
you
prefer
One
versus
the
other
from
the
medium
and
the
High
Museum.
E
C
C
J
We
think
that
RC
provides
challenges
due
to
that
height
cap
95
feet.
You
just
drew
a
massing
standpoint.
You
end
up
with
a
short
squatty
building.
You
can
cram
a
lot
of
units
in
there,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
very
blocky
building.
Potentially,
as
I
was
saying
mentioning
before
during
our
my
segment,
we.
B
J
Getting
a
little
taller
to
allow
open
space
and
impactful
open
space
is
important
and
going
a
little
more
vertical
helps
achieve
that
in
a
significant
way.
E
So
I
would
like
to
ask
with
that,
with
with
those
different
designations,
what
kind?
What's
the
maximum
bonus
density
that
they
can
get,
including
but
I
think
starting
point,
which
is
what
they
have
right
now
like
how
much
bonus
density.
F
They
get
so
for
the
various
setting
categories
that
we're
looking
at.
You
know,
let's
focus
on
co2.5,
they
could
get
additional.
G
F
Density
in
return
in
exchange
for
Community.
F
Such
as
affordable
housing,
Green
Building
provisions
a
community
space
that
sort
of
thing
that
bonus
density,
though,
would
still
be
capped
by
the
height
in
the
zoning
organs.
Because.
F
E
A
I
Elizabeth,
what.
J
G
K
J
C
C
Miss
Rhodes
on
your
kind
of
First
Step
recommendations,
process,
option.
C
Given
what
the
applicant
is
saying
at
the
table
that
they
are
fine
with
medium
oah,
but
then
that
be
staff's
recommendation
here.
That.
F
That
would
be
the
one
that
would
go
to
lrbc
and
not
both
I,
don't
know
which
is
so
important.
Glove
category
would
necessarily
be
appropriate,
but
I
think
you
know,
given
the
guidance
of
the
core
Courthouse
study,
probably
medium
offices.
C
And
okay,
were
you
considering
at
any
point
that
it
would
be
an
open
question
to
help
to
sprc
about
the
glove
category?
Initially,
that
would
proceed
other
conversations
so
maybe
like
a
mini
lrpc
sbrc
discussion
like
we've,
had
with
other
block.
F
F
Too!
Oh,
but
that's
something
that
could
be
a
topic.
C
G
C
Been
largely
answered
in
in
the
courthouse
last
study.
Obviously
there
are
some
differences,
it's
a
different
site
and
we
need
to
explore
those,
but
I
do
think
that
the
the
extensive
review
of
the
sbrc
process
provides
probably
gives
ample
opportunities
explore
any
of
those
questions
without
necessarily
requiring
a
separate
process.
C
Yeah
I
mean
that's
helpful,
I
mean
I,
think
the
sprc
you're
thinking
about
whether
or
not
the
Club
category
is,
is
you
know
and
related
to
or
consistent
with
other
planning
guidance
right
and
and
kind
of
answering
different
questions
so
outside
of
like
kind
of
more
theoretical?
Is
it
appropriate
so.
E
I
mean
understanding
all
right,
so
the
thing
is
that
the
the
courthouse
West
process
is
that
it
was
limited
and
I
didn't
actually
find
the
quotes
in
the
study.
But
from
what
you've
quoted?
Is
that
a
good
start
or
potentially
start
so
that
doesn't
mean
we've
adopted
that
it's
just
that
it
could
really.
The
starting
point
is
where
we
are
now.
E
The
other
thing
is
that
the
courthouse
West
the
when
the
plant
when
it
was
before
the
Planning
Commission.
There
was
some
misinformation,
which
was
about
a
potential
Metro
entrance
which
the
County
board
chairman
refuted,
but
it
was
after
the
people.
G
E
Have
an
opportunity
today,
hello,
you
know:
we've
been
living
around
here
for
30
years
and
no
it's
not
in
any
CIP.
So
so
there
was
some
misinformation
that
some
of
members
of
our
community.
E
It
was
doesn't
necessarily
voted
on
with
the
the
right
information
that
way.
So
that's
one
concern
the
sensor
and
I
have
is
about
notice
to
the
public,
so
best
time
was
happening.
It
was
dealing
with
that
survey
regarding
that
property.
It
wasn't
about
the
one
next
door,
you
know,
or
a
different
Civic
associations
United
and
trying
to
to
have
it
fix
stories
or.
F
Lower
so
so
we
know
that
there.
E
C
C
To
address
your
first
point
on
the
the
incorrect
information,
that's
absolutely
right
that
that
was
that
was
incorrect.
We
did
make
a
mistake
in
presenting
that
so
number
one
want
to
be
upfront
about
our
maintenance
State
there
two
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up.
You
did
once
we
realized.
We
made
the
mistake.
We
did
clarify
it
to
get
to
the
port.
Afterward
and
I,
sent
a
separate
email
to
the
board,
explained
to
them
that
this
was
not
the
correct
information,
so
we
got
to
get
it
right.
F
A
For
us
to
look
bigger
on
things
more
broadly,
but
yeah,
absolutely
that
could
be
something
that
all
our
PCS.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
want
follow
up
on
this.
Thank
you
for
raising
the
same
Mr,
chair,
I'm,
Miss,
Rhodes
I,
understand
that
if
we
did
a
longer
study,
this
would
have
to
be
accommodated
in
what
is
the
timing
for
something
like
that
look
like.
Is
that
something
that
you
all
think
you
could
accommodate
in
the
next
six
months?
12
months,
18
months,
two
years.
H
G
H
F
Then,
through
the
comprehensive
plan
exploration,
we
could
also
recommend
and
or
begin
wrestling
Fallston
cardar
study
or
something
yeah.
I
L
G
L
Whether
it's
for
painted
buildings,
what
have
you
and
so
I
do
think.
There's
a
broader
conversation
place
there,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
other
development
shouldn't
be
able
to
move
forward
or
I,
don't
perceive
that
it
be
able
to
that's
my
view.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
everyone.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
C
I,
don't
really
care
what
commissioner
Steinberger
or
that,
given
the
extensive
work
that
was
done
on
the
adjacent
parcel
of
the
Cy
that
could
be
used
this
applicant,
but
I
would
be
supportive
of
a
pretty
much
broader
study
than
just
an
update
to
the
courthouse
addendum.
A
A
My
time
needs
to
be
looked
down.
Yeah
I
have
a
question,
because
this
will
be
a
change
in
the
news
from
office
to
residential
and
looked
at
the
there's.
The
policy
document
that
the
county
views
that
there
is
that
change
from
office
to
residential.
Has
that
been
considered
as
Farmers
or
is
that
really
is
wrong?.
F
And
one
of
the
other
things
to
think
about
is
also
in
terms
of
did
it
if
there
was
to
be
a
general
ladies
plan
Amendment
that
would
bring
into
play
that
affordable
housing
contribution
that's
required
when
we
do
a
general
aims,
plan
Amendment,
so
there
would
certainly
be
20
or
more
about
the
club
in
terms
of
affordable.
F
A
E
Exactly
because
tax
have
a
question
for
you:
did
you
guys
consider
converting
the
building
at.
G
E
B
J
And
it's
going
to
be
something
that
we
consider
in
a
further
design
process.
We
need
to
do
more
studies
on
that
on
that
item,
but
there's
there's
also
parking
below
it.
Why
throw
that
away?
If
we
can,
you
know
we're
aligned
on
that?
Don't
don't
waste
something
that
you
can
reuse.
B
J
E
J
Addition,
oh
just
changing
the
use.
It's
we
have
tenants
in
there
now
it
wouldn't
it
would
not
be
a
it,
wouldn't
be
something
that
that
would
make
sense
and
and
I've
you
know,
I
we
would.
We
would
need
to
go
through
a
site
plan
Amendment
for
that,
but
we
wouldn't
need
to
be
here.
A
A
little
bit
to
discussion
so
I
guess
we've
been
doing
that
too.
So
any
comments
from
the
book.
J
So
you
know
TMG.
Overall
we
have.
We
have
a
strong
commitment
to
PSG
and
making
sure
that
our
projects
are
following
those
those
sort
of
efforts,
and
so
we
again
it's
something
we're
going
to
study,
how
we
Implement
that
levels
of
sustainability
in
a
lot
of
ways-
and
you
know
not
just
sustainability
but
Wellness
as
well-
and
you
know
I'd
kind
of
rolled
by
a
feeling
up
into
a
wellness
category.
J
I
To
have
I'm
happy
to
hear
that,
and
we
know
we're
adding
it,
especially
in
our
Metro
corridors.
Those
are
for
households,
especially
residential,
that
don't
have
backyards,
and
we've
done
enough
study
that
we
know
that
everybody
benefits
from
this
regular
access
to
Nature,
so
adding
things
that
are
not
just
for
your
residence,
but
they
contribute
to
accessible
open
space
for
the
folks
living
there
and
then
the
folks
who
are
already
in
the
community,
and
it
would
be
lovely
to
see
you
guys,
sort
of
set
an
example
for
what
future.
J
Development
and-
and
just
on
on
that
point,
you
know
we
we
view
the
customers,
the
projects
being
there.
You
know
they're
the
people
walking
by
driving
by
it
yeah
the
retailers
that
might
be
next
door.
You
know
everyone
in
this
room,
so
you
know
we.
We
understand
that
the
building
impacts,
everyone
to
different
degrees
and
in
different
ways
and
so
ensuring
that
it
is
impactful.
A
In
those
ways
to
everyone
is
a
focus.
Okay,
do
you
have
examples
of
all
the
budgets
narrative
here.
J
So
the
our
signature
project
is
to
burrow
I'm
out
in
Tysons.
That's
a
multi-phase
mixed-use
project
movie
theater
residential
office.
J
We
are
about
two
and
a
half
phases
through
about
eight
and-
and
that
is
that's
probably
the
best
representative
project
or
you
know
how
how
we
think
about
things,
how
we
focus
on
Place
making
has
been
a
very
large
success,
making
standpoint
and
creating
a
community
there
and
really
you
know
the
way
we
went
about
that
development
and
the
initial
phasing
I'm
delivering
it
immediately
in
full
retail
in
two-sided
retail
strip,
even
though
it
wasn't
economical
to
create
a
little
area
that
is
comfortable
to
come
into
that.
C
Led
to
Whole
Foods,
actually
blog,
that
that
project
has
been
has
been
successful,
we'll
definitely
leverage
those
successes
of
Lessons
Learned
into
future.
C
F
So
we
would
be
using
the
guides
from
the
courthouse
West
study,
which
had
already
noted
that
it's
a
Point
of
Departure
for
this
study
so
I
think
that
would
be
our
starting
place
and
then,
if
there's
any
additional
guidance,
you
know
in
a
courthouse
sector.
G
F
That
would
be
relevant,
but
that
would
be
the
Point
of
Departure.
C
C
F
F
F
C
B
F
C
Members,
Community
Etc
all
right
last
question:
Mr
chairman,
that's
a
slightly
different
issue
is
Staff,
aware
of
any
other
specialist
studies
in
in
this
part
of
the
camp
like
foreign
areas,
I
guess.
K
F
E
The
the
whole
area
behind
the
courthouse,
West
and
2500
Wilson
Boulevard,
is
owned
by
one
owner,
one
property
right
just
between
that
and
lions
Village
and
they
supported.
E
You
know
they
sent
it
a
letter
and
they
appeared
of
the
request.
So
you
know
I
wasn't
sure
if
they
were,
you
know,
I
don't
want
us
to
be
at
the
end
of
this
one
like
the
last
one
and
then
it
suddenly
pops
up.
You
know
so
this
is
yeah
so
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
both.
E
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
the
courthouse
West
along
Clarendon
Boulevard,
the
county,
envisioned
a
public
state
and
then
right
now
there
is
another
public
space
with
green
bath
and
even
though
it's
not
really
inviting
to
the
public
or
the
public
cannot
use
really,
it
does
provide
grass
which
helps
with
climates
and
Visually.
It's
actually
one
of
the
more
pleasant
walks.
So
so
so
so
you
know
we
do
get
to
see
an
Arts
culture
and
there
is
green
grass
right.
So
there
is
an
open.
E
Then,
after
that,
there
is
a
triangular
piece
which
I
think
the
Korean
Embassy
has
led
to
the
county.
So
ideally
it
would
be
lovely
to
have
a
pedestrian
open
public
space
that
goes
along
because
you
know
with
tapering
off
for
that
Korean
Embassy
thing,
because
it's
there
and
it
would
make
it
feel
even
bigger
than
it
is
because
it
would
cover
the
expense
two
blocks
right.
E
E
G
E
Limited-
and
this
is
one
more
green
space
that
was
right
now
and
so
I
want
that
to
be
part
of
equation
the
diagrams.
You
talked
about
about
open
space,
but
then,
when
you
showed
us
the
pictures
they
didn't
look
like
there
was
much
open
space,
so
so
I
I
was
like
okay.
What
are
we
talking
about
here?
You
know
a
little
corner
between
three
big
buildings.
That's
not
gonna
really
give
us
that
Faith
so
that
Equity
land
about
you
know
the
Open
Spaces.
E
Questions
yeah,
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
expect
another
important
point,
which
is
if
we
are
and
you
decide,
and
we
can't
force
you
to
do
anything,
I
know
about
the
county
and
vote.
But
if
you
decide
to
bring
down
that
building,
there
is
going
to
change
there
and
if
we
as
a
county,
one
of
our
goals
is
zero
carbon.
So
then,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
embodied
energy
in
that
building.
E
Thank
you
yeah,
so
a.
L
Question
on
on
timing,
because,
as
we
were
talking
about
sort
of
the
statistics
of
the
larger
study
and
when
that
could
realistically
happen
in
terms
of
straightforward
with
even
an
sprc
at
this
point,
what
are
we
looking
at?
I
mean
from
holding
County.
F
And
and
then
but
then
there
is
talk
for
whatever
View
their
long-range
planning
their
it's
a
little
bit
independent
about
sex.
G
H
Hey
everybody:
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
great
yeah,
I'm
Jason
Harrier
from
lion,
Village
I
just
wanted
to
make
one
quick
comment
about
option
one
and
the
increase
in
height
from
Courthouse
west
from
the
14
to
the
16.
I
just
wanted
to
add
just
a
little
bit
of
contact.
Stema
touched
on
it
a
little
bit
earlier,
but
that
the
14
height,
four
Courthouse
West,
really
was
the
result
of
a
very
aspirational
and
bold
move
by
the
board.
H
I
think
that
the
the
community
surrounding
Courthouse
West
was
quite
involved
in
that
process
for
for
quite
some
time
and
there's
a
lot
more
involvement
in
that
process
from
the
community
than
we
have
in
this
process
and
I
think
that
the
four
Community
associations
surrounding
it
recommended
six
stories,
I
believe
in
that
project
staff
recommended
12
and
when
I
went
to
the
board,
they
wanted
to
be
very
bold
and
go
all
the
way
up
to
14.
H
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
level
set
that
the
14
isn't
a
low
number
or
or
something
that
we
should
start
at.
That
was
really
an
aspirational
and
bold
goal
from
the
board,
and
so
I
think
that
option
one
at
14
that
matches
Courthouse
West
does
make
some
sense,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
anything
more
than
14
would
thanks.
A
It
wasn't
until
like
a
year
or
two
ago
that
I
realized
actually
public
space.
That
is
not
private.
It
just
reads
all
wrong.
So
if
you're
right,
then
you
can
you
do
that
and
I
think
you're,
absolutely
right
that
it's
something
you
should
coordinated
with
other
Open
Spaces
in
the
area.
We
would
never
design
something
like
that,
along
with
one
part
of
the
bill.
I
think
we
would
have
to
be
much
press
release,
but
it's
nice.
It
has
some
uses,
but
we
would
need
much
more.
A
I
Thank
you
for
that
and
not
to
make
more
work
for
you,
but
in
a
perfect
world
we
would
ask
you
to
look
at
how
your
plan
to
open
space
would
fit
with
the
rest
of
the
community.
Can
you
have
a
little
path
that
connects
to
another
apartment,
because
there
really.
I
J
G
B
Commission
I'm
going
a
little
bit
on
a
different
direction.
Although
this
this
conversation
and
brings
up
these
up
a.
A
B
Bit
and
I'm,
probably
echoing
commissioner
schro,
more
than
anything
else,
but
a
little
bit
struggling
a
little
bit
with
this
site
relative
to
courthouse
West
this
notion
of
Special
Love
and
at
some
point
it
becomes
so
many
independent
points
that
it's
hard
to
Anchor
this
on
sort
of
a
greater
context.
You
know.
B
Sort
of
you
know,
engage
in
the
conversation
because
of
that
it's
like
trying
to
reference
back
to
a
larger
plan
and
that's
why
I
particularly
like
proposal
too,
because
of
that
you
know
that
larger
context
and
how
this
fits
into
the
whole
and
and
I'm
uncomfortable
tying
this
too
closely
at
the
courthouse
West.
Because
of
that
you
know,
Courthouse
West
was
at
one
off
now.
There's
a
two
off.
B
You
get
my
point,
so
that's
that's
where
I'm
at
but
I
think
otherwise.
You
know
I
think
the
the
I
think
there's
a
parking
garage
right
under
the
grass
yeah,
so
I
think
that's
why
it's
elevated-
and
this
goes
back
to
our
last
Circle
media
called
balls
or
enemies.
Good
right.
D
D
To
Clarendon,
as
people
move
from
one,
the
other
I
live
County
corner
to
this
parcel,
so
I
know
it
very
well
and
block
that
block
all
the
time
and
I.
You
know,
I,
think
all
these
comments
about
the
value
of
open
space
really
speak
to
the
Merit
of
pursuing
option,
one
in
the
short
term,
because
yeah
the
grass
is
nice,
but
it's
strictly
aesthetic
for
99
of
the
community
and
a
better
open
space.
That's
more
integrated
with
The
Pedestrian
experience
as
well.
B
D
The
surrounding
poor
souls
would
provide
a
lot
more
value
to
the
community
and
I
really
think
you
know
we
shouldn't.
D
Sacrifice
that
because
I
think
the
vision
you've
laid
out
and
talked
about
today
lays
out
pretty
clearly
your
value
is
in
your
intent
and
kind
of
creating
that
coordination
that
we
would
like
to
see
and
I
think
we
can
that
through
an
SP
hours.
D
Yes,
I
would
like
to
say
also,
though,
that
the
second
auth
I
think
associating
with
commissioner
Steinberger
and
troll
the
second
also
pursuing
the
second
option
of
a
broader
Corridor
study
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
because
we're
kind
of
having
the
same
conversation
tonight
that
we
had
through
the
courthouse
West
special
Club.
D
It
you
know
reasons
that
we're
going
to
keep
having
this
conversation
so
and
throughout
the
county
as
well.
Continuing
that
conversation
on
you
know
how
our
Metro
corridors
are
evolving
through
the
21st
century
and
how
land
use
in
the
corridors
is
evolving
as
well,
and
the
cascading
impacts
on
open
space
and
transportation
and
other
amenities.
E
I
wanted
to
mention
something
that
we
mentioned
at
the
time
of
Courthouse
class.
E
E
We
have
a
huge
percentage
of
our
County
and
I
went
for
house
wealth
developers.
I
want
you
guys
all
to
consider
that
building
within
your
development
offered
some
sort
of
benefit
of
you
know,
foreign
access
to
the
swimming
pool,
or
what
have
you?
E
But
it's
something
I
wanted
early
on,
to
introduce
the
concept
and
for
County
staff
to
be
aware
that,
from
an
equity
perspective,
we
need
something
along
the
orange
line
that
caters
to
people.
Development
suitable,
but
I
also
want
developers
to
also.
E
I
I
know
that
that's
on
the
agenda,
anyways
I,
think
I
wanted
to
stress.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
actually
Miss
Rose
is
is
if
we
have
like
an
abbreviated
special
Club
versus
like
just
skipping.
The
special
Club
here
too,
would
that
make
more
sense
than
just
jumping
into
sprc.
F
I
think
that
in
this
case,
given
that
Tim
spent
I.
I
F
Necessary
to
take
an
additional
three
to
six
months
to
do
a
special
General,
Annie's
plan
study
process.
One
thing
we've
been
hearing
from
the
planning
commissioners
is
is
a
desire
to
be
more
streamlined
in
our
special
generation
studies.
F
So
I
think
this
is
one
way,
and
you
know
in
this
special
book
study
process
criteria,
says
that
other
study
Avenues
are
appropriate,
so
it
could
be
sprc.
It
could
be
a
small
area
plan.
It
could
be
a
pdsp
review,
so
it
it's
not
necessarily
that
we
need
to
always
go
from
tier
one
to
tier
two
I
think
that
the
sprc
can
look
at
a
lot
of
these.
You
know
these
questions
and
sounds
like
the
questions
that
we're
hearing
are
about.
Where
should
the
open
space
be
located?
What
should
I
respect
papering.
E
Alternative
suggestions
of
actually
acquired
actual
sdrc.
If
applicants
can
actually
survey
up
Community
work
with
us
with
us
or
actually
try
to
get
like
a
more
structured
feedback
and
I'll
tell
you.
I
I
worked
extensively
on
what
my
market
comment
or
environment
classes
now
and
I
was
at
the
table
with
the
artist,
and
we
were
able
to
make
suggestions
that
made
it
such
a
successful
development
and
our
ability
to
be
on
the
table
with
them
and
sharing
our
ideas.
I.
Remember
the
architect.
E
J
E
J
G
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
other
comments.
A
Okay,
I'll
go
around
the
table
once
once
for
everybody
to
give
everybody
a
chance
to
say
something
about
table
and
virtually
the
Christian
purity
of
any
final
comments
do.
B
You
like
thank
you
for
sure.
You
know,
I,
think
thanks
staff
for
the
for
the
for
the
presentation
and
thanks
and.
G
E
A
It
Mr
Harrier.
H
A
Thank
you.
We
can
now
move
on
again.
A
Be
able
to
give
two
minutes
per
person
put
up
on
the
screen
at.
J
M
M
Ahead:
okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Anne
Bowden
I'm
from
Lion,
Park
and
I'm
slightly
concerned.
We
seem
to
be
repeating:
Courthouse
West,
where
the
county
leapfrogged
whole
categories
of
land
use
density,
going
from
a
two-story
Zone
parcel
to
14..
This
up
zoning
isn't
quite
as
big
a
difference
from
a
existing
to
proposed
zoning,
but
it's
also
not
an
excuse
to
just
cave
on
bad
Testament
test
precedent.
Sorry
I've
testified
against
density
so
many
times,
but
let's
see
if
a
new
tactic
gains
any
traction.
I
have
four
animal
stories
to
share
tonight.
M
M
Three
camels,
your
sighting
Courthouse
West,
is
the
camel's
nose
Under,
the
Tent,
that's
where
the
board
ignored
a
request
from
four
Civic
associations
to
limit
New
Height
at
six
stories
and
approve
14..
As
I
mentioned,
these
sites
are
not
comparable.
This
contains
a
massive
structure
that
should
live
out
its
full
lifespan
and
not
come
down
for
mere
profit.
This
side
is
even
further
from
Metro
and
it
is
part
of
a
sector
plan.
M
These
efforts
look
to
me
like
spot
zoning,
and
the
camel's
nose
seems
to
be
a
way
to
reframe
that
animal
four
is
the
pig
I
believe
the
manager
has
told
us.
We
have
a
30
million
dollar
deficit
or
plans
for
new
density.
All
over
Arlington
fail
to
analyze
the
impact
on
our
long-term
operating
budget
as
long
range
planning
folks,
you
know
the
new
residents
cost
money,
often
more
than
they
bring
in
new
taxes.
They
need
larger
Waters,
sewer
and
storm
water
facility.
Schools,
Parks
fire
stations,
Etc
and
the
piggy
bank
is
empty.
M
A
A
You
Brooke
Alexander's
next
Milwaukee.
G
N
Hi
it's
Brooke
Alexander.
Can
you
hear
me
yes.
N
Okay,
thank
you.
Just
as
a
little
background
on
on
me,
I
live
in
Ashton
Heights
I've
lived
in
central
Arlington
for
48
years,
I
have
a
master
of
land
use
and
environmental
planning
from
UVA
I
was
one
of
ten
citizen
planners
representing
the
five
Civic
associations
surrounding
Clarendon
who
participated
in
in
the
development
of
the
original
Clarendon
sector
plan
in
1984..
N
Lots
has
changed
during
my
35
year,
Hiatus
I'm
still
getting
familiar
with
the
lrpc
and
the
tier
one
and
the
tier
two
studies
and
how
things
are
done
currently
in
Arlington
I
will
say
that
I
have
a
number
of
concerns
with
the
way
that
Arlington
is
doing
business,
but
today,
I'd
like
to
focus
on
the
recreation
aspect.
To
that
end
and
I
know,
this
has
been
touched
on.
Thank
you
at
what
point
do
we
look
at
the
big
picture?
We
are
adding
more
residents.
We
are
expecting
those
new
residents
to
have
few
cars.
N
N
So
in
looking
at
the
public
spaces,
master
plan
I'm
not
going
to
have
time
to
read
all
of
this,
but
within
a
five
minute
walk.
There
are
certain
level
of
service
aspects
that
are
are
targeted
and
there's
also
a
set
with
a
10
minute
walk,
and
so,
given
the
proposed
increase
in
the
number
of
residents
with
finite
land
area,
we
should
be
looking
at
incorporating
residential
I
mean
recreational
facilities
within
the
building,
as
commissioner
Garen
had
suggested.
So.
A
Some
ideas,
okay,
your
time
is
up,
is
Alexander.
You
can
submit
further
comments
in
writing
of
the
lrpc
website
about
this
project.
So
if
you
have
more
to
say
which
I
think
you
do,
please
do
write.
N
It
thank
you.
Unfortunately,
the
decision
will
already
be
made,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
no
you
have
time
to
do
the
offer.
A
A
I
think
he
may
have
dropped
up
so
we'll
move
on
Dr
Burr
you're
next
of
Duty.
O
Yes,
hello,
you,
you
are
the
long-range
Planning
Commission
committee.
Therefore,
look
at
the
big
picture,
as
a
previous
speaker
said,
flock
is
unique.
The
plot
contains
the
only
large
green
space
that
still
remains
between
Clarendon
Boulevard
and
Wilson
Boulevard,
or
between
Fairfax
Drive
and
Wilson
Boulevard
in
Virginia
square
and
Boston.
O
This
screen
space
is
far
more
biophilic
than
anything
that
the
applicant
intends
to
provide
or
will
provide
if
the
county
approves
the
refresh
the
glove
change
and
subsequent
rezoni
and
a
side
plan
to
preserve
the
communities
surrounding
communities
livability
and
what
can
eventually
become
a
major
historic
resource.
The
county
needs
to
deny
the
applicant's
request,
regardless
of
any
other
plans
or
guidance,
they're
they're.
Simply
the
time
to
say,
stop,
stop
this
request
in
its
tracks
now
or
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Dr
Byrne,
just
in
order
to
watch
my
comments.
Thank
you.
Okay,
that
wraps
up
our
public
comments.
I
think
we're
really
done
for
tonight.
How's
everything,
I'm
missing
great
I,
now
declare
our
meeting
at
adjourned.