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Everybody
can
use
your
phones
devices,
we
will
get
started
right.
Welcome
everybody
to
the
January
18th
evening
at
the
long-range
planning
committee.
My
name
is
James
schroll
Al,
the
member
of
the
buying
Commission
I'm,
chairing
this
special
love
study
meeting
now
before
we
get
started
here,
I
want
to
go
over
a
few
Crown
rules
and
a
few
pieces
of
information
for
those
of
us
who
are
here
in
person
who
are
joining
online.
So
we
are
holding
this
hybrid
public
meeting
electronic
participation
as
legally
authorized
go
to
Virginia
or
the
planning
commissions
Electronics.
A
books
are
participating
here
in
the
FED
in
the
room
and
also
people
are
participating
remotely.
We
do
have
a
quorum
here
in
the
room
which
I
should
acknowledge
based
on
the
roster
that
was
about
to
recent
Planning
Commission
meeting
I'd
like
to
orient
everybody
to
our
hybrid
environment
and
cover.
Thank
you
specifics
about
tonight's.
Maybe
more
Broad
members.
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D
A
A
I
will
address
when
I
turn
it
on.
Here.
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The
meeting
chat
is
active
for
two
purposes,
for
participants
who
have
technical
difficulties
and
for
those
who
want
to
propose
brief,
clarifying
questions
to
the
larger
audience.
Well,
this
may
be
monitored
by
staff.
It
may
not
be
formally
acknowledged,
and
he's
wishing
to
make
public
comment
needs
to
do
so
verbally
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
It's
actually
not
to
use
for
any
discussion
or
any
inappropriate
statements.
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In
addition,
the
names
and
email
addresses
of
subgroup
members
are
posted
on
the
County
website
Forum,
which
is
allowing
for
virtual
reasons
so
for
members
of
the
lrpc
that
wish
to
participate
these
like
to
do
so
because
you
can
raise
your
your
virtual
hand
that
indicator
this
tragedy
is
monitoring
that
as
well.
It
can
help
me
identify
that
you
wish
to
speak.
A
I
recognize
those
members,
I
see
them
basically
turn
on
your
camera
and
unmute
yourself,
AC.
Member
again,
once
you've
concluded
your
remarks,
please
turn
off
your
video
feed
and
beat
yourself
again
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
joining
us
who
are
not
representing
the
organization
at
the
lrpc
table.
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Lastly,
this
reading
is
being
recorded.
Anything
that's
that
or
captured
online
excited
to
freedom
of
Virginia
agreement,
Information
Act
requirements
as
well,
so
that
long
Prelude
out
of
the
way.
Sorry
for
all
that,
let
us
go
around
table
here
for
our
lrpc
members
and
then
we'll
do
the
introductions
online
and
then
we
will
jump
into
tonight
again:
control
pointers,
so
the
radius
and
overseas,
when
okay,
so
you're
you're,
just
our
president
you're,
not
an
lrpc
member
last
year.
Yes,.
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A
Thank
you
all
right,
members.
M
A
Lrpc,
who
are
joining
us
virtually
if
you
could
raise
your
virtual
hand,
please.
A
I'll
come
to
you
in
a
minute
Chris.
N
A
You,
commissioner,
McIntosh.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Schneider.
Q
F
A
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Walker
all
right
reminder
to
folks
to
lower
your
virtual
hand.
Once
you've
introduced
yourself,
50
members
of
staff
are
joining
us.
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A
Hands
Miss
Brown.
M
A
I
know
we
have
a
number
of
other
folks
who
are
joining
us
electronically.
I
think
in
the
interest
of
time
may
try
to
move
along
in
our
agenda.
If
you
are
making
public
comment,
we
would
encourage
you
to
introduce
yourself
at
that
time.
So
we
do.
Thank
you
for
all
the
information.
A
So
let
me
just
said
a
little
bit
of
ground
rules
of
what
we're
here
to
do
set
stage
a
little
bit
and
then
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
Miss
Rose
for
a
fat
presentation
followed
by
applications,
a
presentation
as
well.
So
this
is
the
tier
two
study
thing
for
the
special
block.
A
What
you
want
here
tonight
is
where
the
front
door
is
where
the
actual
loading
is
going
to
be
actually
how
many
cars
are
coming
in
and
out
of
the
site
and
I
know.
That
is
a
concern
of
many
of
the
folks
in
this
world.
A
lot
of
those
topics,
as
this
Rose
will
probably
walk
through
our
site
plan
concern.
A
F
A
There
are
things
that
we're
not
rushing
aside,
they're
things
that
we
would
cover,
but
they're
not
to
be
they
would
not
be
covered
since
this
year.
So
I
want
to
cover
that
I
said:
Mr
Rose
is
going
to
walk
through
a
staff
presentation
applicants.
Can
you
have
five
minutes
the
neighborhood
five
five
minutes
to
do
the
presentation.
A
That's
how
we're
going
to
structure
it.
The
neighborhood
is
also
a
member
of
the
table
and
can
certainly
ask
questions
outside
of
your
presentation.
Hey.
This
is
to
do
high
level
presentation
and
your
your
presentation
has
been
shared,
but
the
one
in
November
and
then
the
one
that
shared
with
us
with
staff
yesterday
has
been
posted.
A
So
with
that
out
of
the
way,
I've
talked
way
too
much
I'll
pass
over
to
miss
Rhodes
presentation.
We're
gonna
take
a
whole
discussion
until
after
this,
this
road.
T
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Margaret
Rose
and
I'm
with
the
planning
division
and
please,
if
you're
virtual-
and
you
cannot
hear
hear
us-
please
let
us
know
I-
will
try
to
be
brief.
So,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
a
number
of
slides
to
get
through.
T
So
we'll
start
with
background
information,
we'll
move
on
to
existing
conditions.
The
results
of
the
community
engagement
session
that
we
had
we'll
look
at
the
proposed
guiding
planning
principles,
our
refined
massing
scenarios,
we're
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Department
of
Environmental
services
staff
for
a
preliminary
Transportation
analysis
and
then
we'll
conclude
with
some
discussion
suggestions
for
the
alert
you.
U
T
So
you
can
see
the
policy
for
consideration
of
General
land
use,
plan
amendments
unanticipated
by
previous
planning
efforts
was
adopted
by
the
County
Board
in
2008..
This
policy
calls
for
a
community
review
process
in
those
instances
where
there
is
either
no
adopted
plan
or
where
the
request
is
an
area
where
it
would
be
inconsistent
with
a
relevant
adopted
plan.
T
Special
Club
studies
evaluate
the
appropriateness
of
the
requested
club
or
general
land
use,
plan
change
and
what
club
category
or
categories
may
be
most
appropriate
when
sharing
this
information,
I
want
to
highlight
that
there
have
been
questions
from
the
community
about
spot
zoning
and
whether
the
county
is
conducting
spot
zoning
and
considering
applications
that
differ
from
the
existing
glove
in
the
existing
zoning,
and
it
is
important
to
understand
that
this
is
not
spot.
Zoning.
Many
areas
of
the
county,
including
this
site,
are
never
planned,
but
rather
designated
based
on
the
existing
zoning
early
in
use.
E
T
Well,
while
we're
sorting
that
out
I'm
going
to
continue,
this
is
also
available
online.
We've
posted
it
on
both
the
sunrise
special
General
land
use
plan
study
web
page
that
you
can
find
through
a
Google
search
on
the
Arlington
County
webpage,
and
it's
also
on
the
long
range
planning
committee
of
the
Planning
Commission
webpage,
which
you
can
Google
under
our
lrpc.
If.
T
T
M
T
Are
actually
talking
about
the
vision
for
this
area?
Therefore,
this
is
not
not
so.
The
special
General
Annie's
plan
study
can
consists
of
two
review.
U
T
T
Document
and
a
recommendation
to
the
planet,
commission
and
the
County
Board
to
advertise
or
not
to
advertise
a
Glock
Amendment,
and
we
would
also
bring
forward
a
study
document
if
it
advances
to
that
stage.
The
staff
recommendations
in
the
study
document
are
then
reviewed
and
considered
by
the
Planning
Commission
and.
T
Q
T
F
T
T
The
requested
amendment
is
from
low
residential
one
to
ten
units
per
acre
to
low
medium
residential
16
to
36
units
per
acre,
and
there
is
the
potential
for
a
future
request
of
an
Associated
resulting
from
rm6
the
r818
and
the
rezoning
would
be
examined
at
a
future
Point
concurrent
with
a
potential
site
plan.
Application.
T
F
T
Use
plan
study
we
are
looking
at
the
uses,
the
range
of
uses,
density
and
height
permitted
in
the
zoning
District
associated
with
the
the
low
medium
residential
land
use.
So,
although
the
application
Elder
Care
in
doing
our
due
diligence
as
group
here,
we
need
to
look
at
multiple
uses
so
that
hence
the.
T
Of
both
the
family
and
the
Elder
carries
so
the
three-dimensional
modeling
of
the
existing
conditions
and
the
proposed
designation
and
what
that
would
allow
what
will
be
coming
up
in
the
present
station
and
during
the
tier
two
and
we're
bringing
up
some
of
the
questions
that
were
raised
in
the
tier
one
review.
Some
of
those
issues
that
were
raised
for
buildings
scale,
massing
materials,
that
kind
of
pedestrian
level,
ground
floor,
environment,
Landscaping
safety
and
then
environmental
issues,
including
sustainability
and
storm
water
management.
T
U
T
Come
in
with
the
tier
one
application,
so
no
additional
information
was
needed
for
staff
to
proceed
with
the
review
us
recommended
by
the
lrpc
at
the
lrpc
tier
one
meeting,
and
given
that
the
process
guide
is
Administrative
and
procedural
as
opposed
to
Regulatory,
and
no
additional
information
was
needed
to
proceed
with
tier
two
we'd
already
gotten
the
full
Transportation
analysis.
Etc
staff
will
be
evaluating
the
need
to
have
tier
two
applications.
T
Application
letters
in
the
in
the
future,
as
we
look
at
potential
process
updates,
see
what
what
may
be
needed
in
terms
of
process
stuff
and
I'll.
Just
also
note
that
the
scope
of
this
study
includes
addressing
issues
raised
as
I
mentioned
during
the
tier
one
review,
and
the
staff
presentation
addresses
those
areas
of
concern
for
the
proposed
guiding
principles.
T
So
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
further
along
in
the
presentation,
and
then
you
know
also
just
note
that,
through
the
application
advance
to
site
plan
review
committee
review,
there
would
be
more
reviews,
conditions
and
regulations
to
address
some
of
the
more
detailed
concerns
that
have
been
raised
over
email
by
The
Neighborhood,
such
as
engineering
design,
storm
water
mitigation.
It's
a.
T
Next
part
of
the
presentation
reviews
very
quickly
the
existing
conditions
for
the
study
area.
So
here
we
can
see
an
excerpt
from
the
general
land
use
plan.
The
subject
site
is
outlined
there
in
blue.
The
general
land
use
plan
establishes
the
County's
land
use
Vision.
This
slide
identifies
the
existing
blood
designations
for
the
site,
and
the
in
the
area
surrounding
the
subject
site
you
can
see
across
from
the
site
is
the
mute
site
which
is
designated
public
in
the
light
green
now.
T
But
we
might
be
addressing
that
inconsistency
as
it
is
actually
occupied
with
low
residential
one
to
ten
units
per
acre
of
Housing
Development.
You
can
see.
T
T
For
additional
comprehensive
plan
guides
for
this
area,
we
looked
at
the
affordable
housing
master
plan,
which
is
relevant
because
it
calls
for
allowing
Arlington
residents
to
age
in
the
community
and
provide
supports
that
they
can
do
that.
T
Classified
as
an
arterial-
and
there
is
frequent
bus
and
Transit
service
along
North
Glebe
Road
in
this
area,
we'll
talk
more
about
transportation,
a
little
bit.
T
Existing
conditions,
so,
in
addition
to
the
existing
adopted
guidance
policy
guidance,
there
is
guidance
for
this
area,
which
is
informed
by
the
existing
site.
Here
we
have
a
site
analysis
overview.
You
can
see
the
subject
site
towards
the
center
of
the
screen
and
you
can
see
the
observed
land
uses
public
spaces,
Transit
bicycle
infrastructure
and
tree
canopy
in
the
vicinity
of
the
study
area
and
next
we'll
look
at
the
results
of
our
community
engagement
survey.
T
T
Survey,
it
ran
for
a
number
of
weeks,
so
it's
extended
past
the
initial
anticipated
length
of
the
study
to
allow
for
additional
comment.
We've
received
144
individual
responses,
and
if
you
want
to
look
at
all
the
individual
responses,
we
have
posted
a
PDF
of
all
that
raw
data
on
the
project
web
page.
T
As
you
can
see,
from
the
community
engagement
session
overview,
we
asked
which
of
the
preliminary
massing
scenarios
do
you
believe
best
responds
to
the
proposed
building
planning
guidance
for
post
guiding
planning
principles,
and
you
know
the
majority
certainly
supported
the
four-story
option.
T
One
of
the
other
questions
we
asked
most
of
the
other
questions
that
we
have
here
dealt
with
the
proposed
planning
principles.
So
you
can
see
there
was
support
for
each
one
of
the
planning
principles
so
74
the
you
know,
74
out
of
the
total
we're
supporting
this
insurer
that
building
scale
masking
materials
complement
the
surrounding
area.
T
There
was
a
strong
support
for
provide
for
attractive
and
welcoming
pedestrian
level
conditions
through
tree
conservation.
Landscaping
other.
T
T
T
T
Sometimes
all
the
planning
process,
the
elementary
school
I've,
had
no
concerns
construction
and
displacement.
Racial
Equity,
fire
safety
and
public
art
were
also
topics
that
were
discussed
in
addition
to
the
responses
that
we
got
through
the
online
community
engagement
survey.
We
also
heard
directly
from
the
president
of
the
Cleveland
Association
identifying
some
of
these
Transportation
concerns:
pedestrian
Crossings
access
and
loading
with
initially
with
delivery
and
Landscaping
trucks,
clear
passage,
emergency
vehicles,
Etc
and
then,
apparently,
there
is
pick
up
a
drop
off
activity
occurring
for
the
nearby
Elementary
School
on
20th
Street.
T
F
T
Q
T
T
Again,
these
are
the
principles
which
I
have
gone
over
in
the
context
of
the
community
engagement
results
and
then
for
more
specific
areas.
Where
we've
heard
people
would
like
to
see
more
specific
events
like
hurricane
storm,
water
management,
Etc
again,
it's
a
constructural
mention
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
would
be
addressed
if
this
was
Advanced
to
advance
to
site
plan
review.
Those
were
fine-grained.
T
U
T
U
T
Range
of
use
associated
with
this
area,
so
we
all
have
an
understanding
of
that
and
I.
You
know
again.
These
are
based
on
the
input
we've
received
and
it's
important
to
note
that
lower
building,
Heights
and
or
tapers
could
be
recommended.
If
that's
the
feedback.
U
T
You
know
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
hear
at
this
meeting
the
modeling
assumptions.
I
don't
want
to
go
over
these
in
detail,
but
they're
fairly
General
we're
assuming
underground
parking,
we're
consuming
access
off
of
20th
Street.
T
We
made
unit
assumptions
for
Elder,
Care
and
multi-family
to
try
and
capture
the
common
areas
for
those,
and
we
would
propose
that
there
would
be
greater
height
and
massing
towards
the
arterial,
Glebe
Road
and
then
less
towards
the
residential
start,
because,
and
then
the
footprint
that
we
designed
is
try
and
preserve
the
greatest
number
of
trees
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
height,
the
lower
four-story
and
higher
six-story
Building
height
scenarios
again
illustrate
that
range
of
heights
that
are
potential
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
the
density
that
we
modeled.
T
We
did
one
scenario
with
the
base
site
plan
density,
and
then
we
did
two
with
a
modest
0.25
bonus
density
which
could
allow
for
a
Green
Building
initiative
or
affordable
housing
incentive.
But
again
none.
T
And
none
of
the
bonus
Etc
is
to
be
decided
here.
That
would
be
something
if
this
was
too
advanced
a
site
plan
that
would
be
discussed
so
again.
These
are
just
illustrative
bottles,
illustrative
model
of
what's
currently
there.
This,
however,
does
not
include
since
two
additional
Parcels
I
mentioned.
T
The
scenario
one
we're
seeing
her
four-story
building
with
no
bonus
density
and
the
maximum
Elder
Care
height.
You
know
you
can
see
here
and
then
for
already
1426.
It's
just
what
we're
showing
here,
45
to
50.,
with
the
most
of
the
height
up
against
Lee
Road.
T
U
T
So
you
can
look
at
these.
U
U
T
Majority,
the
greater
height
is
up
along
the
road
scenario.
Two
go
to
the
next
slide
is
a
four-story
building,
with
bonus
density,
that
small
amount
of
bonus
density
that
could
allow
for
Green
Building
initiative
or
affordable
housing
or
other
bonus.
T
If
there
was
a
desire
for
that,
if
this
was
too
advanced
since
they
plan
the
view
process,
you
can
see
here
it's
starting
further
down.
28Th
Street
you've
got
three
stories,
then
moving
to
four
stories
and
four
stories
coming
around
along
Cleve
Road.
This
is
a
five-story
scenario.
This
is
the
next
one,
so
we
have
three
with
again
that
bonus
density
and
you
can
see
it's
three
stories
further.
U
U
T
To
one
another
so
for
the
first.
T
You
can
see
the
four-story
building
would
have
less
height,
but
may
cover
more
of
the
site,
and
the
building
in
all
these
scenarios
would
be.
We
would
recommend
that
it
would
step
down
towards
the
surrounding
houses
scenario,
two
a
four-story
building
similar
to
what's
in
scenario
one,
but
with
the
bonus
density
we
discussed
and.
U
T
Scenario:
three:
the
building
would,
with
the
greater
height,
could
cover.
U
T
Of
this
site,
with
a
smaller
footprint
while
achieving
the
same
number
of
units
and
then
for
the
three
scenarios.
U
T
To
the
ground
story,
plane,
Trace
conservation,
Landscaping,
etc
for
scenarios
one
and
two
with
the
lower
Heights.
The
building
would
occupy.
F
F
T
Be
an
opportunity
for
more
days
so
go
to
the
next
slide.
We
can
see
with
regards
to
the
transportation
connectivity
planning
principle
for
all
of
these,
we're
presuming
that
access
with.
T
Scenarios
but
unlimited
access
off,
of
course,
other
recommendations.
More
specific
would
be
addressed
in
the
study
document
that
we
provide
and
then
there
would
also
be
a
discussion
of
storm
water
and
sustainability
in
the
study
document
and
then,
given
the
input
on
the
next
sorry,
if
we
go
back,
one
side
see
the
preferred
masking
scenarios,
given
the
input
we've
received
from
the
lrpc.
The
community
staff
believes
that
all
three
of
the
scenarios
I
just
showed,
are
responsive
to
the
proposed
guiding
principle
and
scenarios.
T
Potentially
be
thoughts
such
as
Green
Building
benefits
and
then
of
these
two
scenarios.
With
the
bonus
density
scenario,
three
would
allow
for
the
most
open
speeds
that
building
Mass
being
constituted
up
along
North,
Glebe,
Road
and
staff
does
not
recommend
that
building
kite
exceed
five
stories
and
any
scenario
given
the
context
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Sergio.
M
Thanks
Margaret,
could
you
possibly
fix
the
display
settings?
I
have
some
tables
that
it
might
be
hard
to
read
some
of
the
numbers.
M
I,
firstly,
wanted
to
start
off
with
just
resources
and
assumptions
we
made
for
projecting
these
trips
in
the
next
slide.
You'll
see
that
our
main
resource
is
an
industry
standard
resource.
It's
the
trip
generation
manual
and
the
county
has
the
latest
edition
which
helps
staff
project
trips,
not
only
for
vehicles
but
for
pedestrians,
transits,
cyclists
and
motorists.
M
Some
of
the
assumptions
that
we
made
for
this
site
was
that
it
is
not
close
to
rail.
Transit,
typically
close
to
rail
Transit
is
within
half
mile.
This
site
is
just
over
a
mile
from
the
nearest
metro
station
and
then
we
use
data
sets
that
were
for
the
areas
of
the
Northeast
and
Mid-Atlantic
regions,
and
we
applied
mode
shares
for
the
North
Arlington
area
mode
shares,
meaning
that
in
this
area
we
see
more
motorists
rather
than
Transit
users
or
walkers.
M
Lastly,
for
the
assumptions
a
multi-family
residential,
we
consider
it
as
a
producer
of
trips
and
you'll
see
this
in
the
tables
as
it's
during
the
morning.
There's
more
trips
leaving
the
site
and
then
in
the
PM
you
will
see
more
trips
are
coming
into
the
site
for
the
Assisted
Living
scenario.
M
We
decided
that
one
is
an
attractor
of
trips
because
it
has
staff,
visitors
and
services
that
go
to
the
site.
So
in
the
morning
you'll
see
more
trips
headed
towards
the
site
and
then
in
the
PM
more
trips
are
leaving
the
site.
M
What's
on
the
presentation,
right
now
is
scenario
one.
This
is
what
was
provided
by
cphd
and
for
multi-family
housing.
We
were
provided
77
dwelling
units
and
then
for
the
Assisted
Living.
We
were
provided
the
number
of
128
beds
in
summary,
multi-family
would
produce
19
vehicle
trips
during
the
morning
and
then
19
or
I'm
sorry
28
vehicle
trips
during
the
PM.
Meanwhile,
Assisted
Living
would
provide
22
vehicle
trips
in
the
morning
and
then
29
vehicle
trips
in
the
PM
in
the
chart.
M
You
can
also
see
some
of
the
projective
active
trips,
so
these
are
the
ones
that
people
may
use
for
Transit
bike
or
walking
to
the
site
for
scenarios
two
and
three:
it's
a
slightly
higher
intense
use.
We
were
provided
77
dwelling
units
for
the
multi-family
and
128
beds
for
the
Assisted
Living
am
during
the
peak
hour.
We
are
seeing
that
there
will
be
19
vehicle
trips
for
the
site
and
then
in
the
PM.
M
It
would
be
28.,
I'm,
sorry,
that's
scenario,
one
am
and
for
both
land
uses
during
the
am
it
projected
out
to
be
25
vehicle
trips
in
the
morning
and
then
for
PM.
It
was
32
vehicle
trips
for
multi-family
and
then
34
vehicle
trips
for
Elder,
Care
and
there's
also
some
of
the
active
trips
there
that
you
can
see.
M
Lastly,
in
summary,
with
these
trips
just
for
this
site,
we
do
not
foresee
that
this
development
would
require
its
own
entrance
off
of
Glebe
Road.
This
is
mostly
to
comply
with
some
of
the
county
standards
and
also
to
keep
Glebe
Road
operational
and
just
safe
as
well.
As
you
know,
if
you
provide
some
type
of
driveway
access,
there
left
South
nearby,
20th
Street
could
become
some
conflict
point.
If
not,
you
know
signalized
well
or
if
there's
not
enough
sight
distance.
M
So
those
are
some
of
the
factors
we
consider
and
also
VDOT
is
the
owner
of
Glebe
Road.
So
a
lot
of
the
their
access
management
standards
would
require
that
some
access
be
off
20th
Street.
If
one
were
to
be
provided
off,
Glebe
Road,
it
would
have
to
be
some
type
of
restricted
access,
as
in
a
right
out
right
in
right
out
scenario,.
M
Our
recommendations
for
this
site
and
the
developers
to
submit
a
multimodal
traffic
assessment
so
that
assessment
will
capture
some
of
the
existing
residential
trips
on
20th
Street.
We
know
that
there's
around
30
single-family
homes
there
and
also
we've
heard
that
there's
some
pickup
and
drop-off
during
APS,
so
the
developer
would
have
to
collect
traffic
counts
just
to
capture
what's
happening
on
20th
Street
today.
M
On
top
of
that,
they
would
also
put
the
projected
side
trips
just
to
complete
the
picture
of
the
impact
of
this
site,
with
the
existing
traffic
on
20th
Street
to
20th,
Street
and
also
to
Glebe
Road.
Some
additional
recommendations
are
that
we
would
urge
the
developer
to
internalize
parking
and
loading
onto
their
site.
We've
heard
a
lot
from
the
residents
about
operations
happening
on
the
roadway
or
even
in
private
property,
to
the
right
there's
an
example
of
a
sunrise
development
in
Burke
Virginia.
M
We
think
that
this
one
did
a
good
job
in
the
design
of
incorporating
loading,
pickup
and
drop
off
and
then
even
parking
for
visitors
all
into
one
site.
Lastly,
a
lot
of
site
plans
will
have
Community
benefits
and
what
we're
seeking
from
from
this
type
of
site
plan
is
that
they
should
assist
with
formalizing
20th
Street
North.
Currently,
as
you
make
a
right
or
left
turn
onto
20th
Street
North,
you
will
notice
that
curb
and
gutter
are
lacking.
Sidewalk
connections
are
lacking
as
well.
M
X
K
T
Kelly,
if
you
could
go
to
the
final
slide,
so
these
are
the
lrpc
suggested
discussion
topics
that
Steph.
We
would
like
your
input
on
so
does
the
lrpc
confer
with
the
proposed
low
medium
residential
Club
designation?
Does.
T
Concur
with
the
recommended
masking
scenarios
and
which
building
type
does
all
of
you
think
color
piece
you
think
is
most
appropriate
and
where
on
this
site,
should
the
greatest
space
be
lucky
and
where
should
it
taper
down?
So
those
are
some
things
that
we
would
like
to
see
of
your
feedback
on
tonight.
Thank
you
and
your
staff's
representation.
We
will
come
back
to
today's
questions
and
others.
I
To
the
applicant
for
your
impersonation
Mr
McGraw
great,
thank
you
to
all
groups.
I
just
need
to
share
and
bring
the
PowerPoint.
I
Triple
okay!
Well,
first
of
all,
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here
tonight,
both
person
in
person
and
virtual,
as
I
said
before
I'm
five
McGraw
I'm
vice
president
of
real
estate,
Persona
Senior
Living.
We
have
Ben
Simon
from
our
Development
Group
and
Kedrick
Whitmore
who's.
Our
land
use
Council
from.
F
I
I
For
example,
Alzheimer's
thoroughs
of
Arlington
was
actually
our
very
first
purpose-built
Sunrise
of
the
nearly
300
that
we
operate
today,
which
is
something
that
we
are
extremely
proud
of.
As
Mrs
Rhodes
said,
and
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Rose
representation,
the
site
is
at
the
corner
of
20
I.
Think
leave
just
south
of
Wednesday.
I
When
we
take
a
look
at
Arlington
County,
we
find
that
there's
a
huge
imbalance
between
the
supply
and
demand
of
assisted
living
and
Memory
Care
in
the
immediate
area.
In
fact,
there's
not
been
a
new
senior
housing
building
built
in
Arlington
County
in
20
years.
We
look
at
just
the
area
right
around
the
existing
Sunrise,
the
three
mile
rate.
We
find
that
there's
an
imbalance
about
a
thousand
units
of
need
versus
living
versus
supply
for
memory
care.
We
find
there's
about
a
600
unit,
imbalance
between
a
need
for
memory
care
and
what's
actually
available
today.
I
So
there's
this
huge
imbalance
and
as
our
population
continues
to
grow,
that
balance
and
balance
is
going
to
get
more
even
more
again.
This
is
an
existing
Sunrise,
as
I
mentioned
our
first
very,
very
first
personal
sunrise,
very
proud
of,
but
unfortunately,
the
building
is
obsolete.
The
units
are
too
small.
The
bathrooms
are
too
small.
The
hallways
are
too
narrow.
There's
too
little
common
space
as
I'm
sure
everyone
in
the
Stream
can
imagine
over
40
years
have
been
great
changes
in
the
design
of
senior
housing
and
unfortunately,
the
building
is
today.
I
Looking
at
the
existing
site
plan,
you
can
see
the
the
outlined
existing
building
kind
of
the
triangle
shape
here.
The
surface
parking
lot
excuse
me,
and
also
the
residential
lot
next
door
that
we
own
So.
F
I
Our
parking
underground
in
the
garage
to
help
relieve
some
of
the
pressure
on
20th
Street
in
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
having
a
dedicated
loading
zone.
In
addition,
when
the
building
was
built
originally
I
doubt
there
were
stormwater
management
requirements
or
if
there
were
they
were
minimal.
Obviously,
today
we
would
put
it
into
place
the
the
highest
requirements
that
Arlington
County
would
have
just
a
quick
item
on
on
procedure.
I
We
are
here
for
our
tier
two
study
as
Mr
said
three
requirements
for
us
being
paying
the
fee
which
we
did
providing
a
transportation
analysis
which
we
also
did
and
providing
any
other
information
that
staff
acquires.
There
was
no
further
request
or
information.
That's
why
we're
here
today,
I
did
just
want
to
mention.
I
did
actually
Reach
Out
multiple
times
to
leadership
of
both
Waverly
Hills
and
Cleveland
associations.
In
preparation
for
this
meeting,
unfortunately,
I
never
heard
back
from
any
leadership.
I
also
actually
reached
out
to
Mr
solder
multiple
times
over.
I
The
last
I
guess
it's
probably
over
a
year
ago
now,
I
also
never
heard
back
from
him.
Unfortunately,
that
being
said,
I've
met
with
many
of
the
neighbors
very
happy
to
me
with
any
of
you
anytime
and
have
a
conversation.
I
did
just
want
to
point
out
here.
There's
a
number
of
frequently
asked
questions.
We've
heard
regarding
increased
intensity
transitions,
structural
impacts,
traffic,
stormwater
management,
spot
zoning,
we're
happy
to
get
into
details
any
of
those
and
finally
multi-family
use.
I
J
My
name
is
John
sauttered,
we're
gonna,
look
at
sunrising
today
and
our
expectations.
J
J
J
J
So
the
second
thing
is
the
you
know
the
applicant
is
instructed
to
file
the
full
glove
study
and
then
the
security
process.
How
that
is.
J
Agent,
we
do
have
a
record
of
the
tier
one
important
it's
here,
two
application
letters
dated
July
29th.
This
is
the
same
day
tier
one,
revised
application
this
day
predates
date
at
which
the
studies.
J
Transparency
of
multi-family
option
with
higher
unit
counts.
We
don't
know
where
this
came
from,
but
this
is
significantly
different
than
what
the
album
asked
for
I've
been
back
and
forth.
Communications
on
this,
we
just
don't
know
why
it's
there.
We
don't
know
where
it
came
from.
There's
been
a
little
bit
of
explanation.
You
can
see,
there's
a
ton
of
use
cases,
so
I
mean
we
don't
know
why
I
molded
them
rest
significantly
impacts
the.
J
These
are
two
different,
entirely
tutoring
categories.
One
thing
that
we're
aware
of
is
once
the
glove
study
is
amended.
Even
if
the
property
sold
off
that
Amendment
doesn't
go
back.
That's
true.
That's
a
question
now,
once
the
once,
the
property
is
invented
once
the
glove
study
is
done.
J
J
Just
an
issue
of
transparency.
I'm,
sorry,
I'll
speak
up
louder.
Thank
you.
The
online
engagement
session
was
a
YouTube
video.
It
was.
It
was
not
really
what
we
would
call
engagement.
It
had
no
opportunity
for
the
community.
Then
a
a
survey
was
issued.
The
survey
was
very
problematic.
J
It
rates
because
it's
sort
of
a
field
of
asking
questions
that
we
could
all
agree
with
and
that
sort
of
derives
that
is
not
the
same
as
currents
just
because
we
agree
with
all
the
principles
in
the
survey
does
not
make
me
improving
project
as
a
whole.
J
That's
one
County
new
address
on
new
unaddressed,
Resident
concerns.
So
in
this
memorandum.
J
J
Especially
with
the
YouTube
video,
there
was
no
opportunity
to
engage
here's
your
YouTube
video
and
here's.
Your
survey,
surveys
driving
you
towards
certain
responses
that
we
could
all
agree
upon.
The
issue
of
spot
zoning
is
one
that
I
we
head
scratcher
for
us.
The
one
thing
that
we
will
call
out
is
that
Sunrise
getting
an
exceptionally
High
increase
in
density
that
is
not
offered
to
the
properties.
Basically,
specifically
the
outline
all
that
went
out,
but
that
property
adheres
sorry
Baker
sure
that
they
accommodate.
J
So
they
didn't
get
any
of
those
benefits.
I
think
you
all
made
your
point.
I
just
kind
of
draw
out
I
really
draw
out
right
here.
J
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Sutter,
okay,
the
discussion
is
now
with
the
members
of
the
lrpc
both
at
the
table
and
then
those
participating
online.
This
discussion
at
the
line.
T
So
the
first
first
recommended
question
was:
does
the
lrpc
concur
with
the
proposed
low
medium
residential
Club
designation.
Q
G
F
G
T
G
G
U
T
You
can
have
low
residential
one
to
ten
and
then
there's
also
a
slightly
higher
low
residential
category,
but
I
think
you
know
the
request
was
for
the
low
medium
residential,
which
was
would
correspond
to
the
rhap,
so
I
think
that's
the
question
for
the
lrpc
is:
is
R6
and
low
residential
still
be
appropriate
category
here,
or
should
something
like
smoking.
T
There's
an
inconsistency
across
the
street
with
The
Muse
and
that's
designated
public.
The
county
does
not
own
that
land.
The
county
has
no
plans
in
our
public
places
after
plan
or
any
other
documents,
a
public
use
like
a
park
or
something
in
that
area.
It's
occupied
Now
with
houses.
So
that
would
be
an
admit.
You
know
a
cleanup
that
we
could
do.
A
Thank
you
before
we
dive
too
deeply
in
this
I
did
want
to
one
step
back
on
our
agenda
here
and
just
do
kind
of
questions
just
for
clarification,
like
Mr,
Sarah
I
think
you
have
some
questions,
and
so,
let's
just
do
questions
against
around
the
table
here.
Other
questions
we'll
try
to
end
everything.
F
E
Context
and
perhaps
purposefully
so
the
guide
that
we're
talking
about
here.
E
E
E
E
E
A
E
Of
what's
with
two
is
pass:
crack
there's
been
one
special
glove
study
with
this
manual.
That
was
the
courthouse
Weston.
What
was
filed
at
the
courthouse,
West
study
or
tier
two
was
a
fee
traffic
study,
no
changes
to
the
application
because
we
talked
with
staff
and
it
didn't
need
anything
that
is
consistent
with
the
past
practice.
Let
me
finish
please
so
we're
consistent
with
the
letter
of
the
law
and
we're
consistent
with
past
practice.
Lastly,
practically
speaking,
nothing
has
changed,
nothing's
being
hidden,
nothing's,
being
obfuscated,
we're
ready
to
provide
any
information
that
you
need.
A
E
B
T
Yeah
this
rest
in
the
letter
they
addressed
consistency
with
the
surrounding
area
in
the
in
the
letter,
and
that's
that's
actually
really
something
that
we.
We
don't
detail
what
that
means,
and
this
is,
as
we
mentioned
before,
it's
procedural,
it's
administrative,
it's
not
in
the
you
know.
None
of
this
process
is
in
the
county
code.
None
of
this
process
is
in
the
zoning
ordinance
it's
not
illegally
binding.
This
is
just
sort
of
a
procedural
guide,
and
so
you
know
that's
it's
very.
U
T
As
to
what
demonstrating
that's
something
that
we've
talked
at,
we
looked
at,
you
know
what
is
the
surrounding
context?
We
went
through
the
background
information
that
you
all
saw.
We
went
for
the
extensions.
T
Principles,
our
very
first
guiding
principle
is
to
deal
with
that
context
and
making
sure
that
what
is
proposed
you
know
anything
that's
potentially
proposed
here-
would
complement
that
surrounding
area,
so
ensure
building
scale,
massing
and
materials
complement
the
surrounding
areas.
You
can
see
that
slide
on
page
38
of
our
presentation,
so
they
were
the
application.
All
the
application
materials
were
received
by
staff.
So
it
sounds
like
you.
U
F
Q
T
A
And
while
we're
on
raising
guiding
principles,
Miss
Rhodes
I
think
one
that
we
heard
last
time
and
ever
a
concern
throughout
this
process
has
been
the
concern
about
this
parcel
being
developed
or
multi-family.
I
know,
that's
not
what
the
applicant
is
suggesting,
but
I
know
that's
what
we're
doing
so.
I
would
suggest
in
keeping
what
with
what
we've
heard
for
Neighbors.
Also
other
lrpc
members
is
adding
that
there
be
that.
J
Strong
preference
for
affordable
senior
living
at
this
site
we're
fine
with
that
yeah
we've
expressed
the
fact
that
we're
concerned
about
consistency
on
from
this.
So
another
question
sure
is
just
for
clarity
for
everyone
in
the
room.
A
lot
of
amendment
goes
through
properties
sold
off.
T
U
T
Misinformation
that
needs
to
be
clarified
so
at
the
termination
of
a
special
General
land
use
plan
study,
as
I
noted,
let's
see
in
the
overview
on
the
process,
the
study
terminates
with
a
study
document
prepared
by
staff
and
it
is
brought
to
the
Planning
Commission.
The
big
word
public
hearings,
where
everyone
is
encouraged
to
participate.
T
We
bring
forward
either
a
request
to
advertise
or
a
request
not
to
advertise
a
potential
General
Andy's
plan
Amendment.
It
then
is
discussed
by
the
Planning
Commission,
the
over
receive
a
report
from
the
lrpc
chair
about
this.
These
very
meetings
that
were
here
tonight
you
know
undertaking
and
then
it
would
Advance
with.
T
Commission
recommendation
to
the
County
Board
and
then
the
County
Board
is
the
decide.
The
site
of
staff
is
not
the
decider
at
lrpc's,
not
a
site
or
PC
is
not
the
decider.
It's
the
County
Board.
That
would
make
a
decision
and
the
decision
is-
and
this
is
the
Nuance
perhaps
but
the
decision
is
not
to
amend
the
general
ages
plan
at
that
time.
I
understand
it
is
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
the
decision
is
is
the
potential.
Let's
say
that
we
recommend
there
is
a
glove
amendment.
T
Is
that
potential
guapa
amendment
in
the
realm
of
consideration?
Yes
or
no?
At
that
juncture,
let's
say
that
that
glob
category
is
then
advertised.
No
action
is
taken.
The.
U
T
No
amendments,
it's
merely
advertised
and
then
the
special
glove
study.
The
document
is,
you
know,
finalized
Etc,
so
stood
there
at
another
juncture,
be
a
site
plan
application
that
comes
forward.
It
would
be
evaluated
against
the
recommendations
of
the
study
document
and
all
the
you.
U
T
Engagement
that
we've
had
and
then
that
application
would
then
be
reviewed
by
the
site
plan
review
committee
and
then
the
planning
cushion
of
the
County
Board
the
count,
no
change
again
still
with
all
this
process.
No
change
to
the
general
Laney's
plan
would
be
made
at
that
time.
If.
U
T
Is
an
appropriate
site
plan
that
it,
you
know
take
seems
to
abide
by
the
recommendations
in
the
general
Andy's
plan
and
make
those
through
the
site
plan
review
committee
process.
At
that
time
it
will
be
brought
to
the
plant
Commission
on
the
County
Board,
the
County
Board,
and
the
Planning
Commission
then
could
put
the
County
Board
to
potentially
act
on
a
series
of
actions.
So
at
that
time,
if
they
thought
it
was
appropriate,
they
could
amend
the
amend
the
general
Annie's
plan.
T
They
could
approve
a
rezoning
and
they
could
approve
a
site
plan.
But
again
no
special,
no
Club
Amendment
occurs
as
part
of
the
lrpc.
F
T
And
no
Gulf
Amendment
occurs
as
part
of
sprc
process.
It's
only
if
there
is
an
appropriate
site
plan,
so,
for
instance,
if
you
you
raise
concerns
again
about
multi-family.
So
if,
let's
say
in
your
scenario
that
I
think
you
were
alluding
to,
let's
say:
Sunrise
goes
bankrupt
and
there's
a
residential
developer
that
comes
in.
T
T
T
F
T
T
Something
like
multiple
family,
because
it
is
in
this
study-
that's
my
clarification,
so
there
would
be
a
principle.
It
sounds
like
addressing
Elder
Care
if
they
were
looking
for
something
other
than
what
potentially
the
outcome
of
this
could
be.
U
O
U
U
T
T
T
Picked
out
for
family,
and
that
is
consistently
so
we're
already
team,
that
was,
it
was
best
and
it
in
arterial
Etc.
So
you
know
I,
don't
think
that
you
know
it
could
be
any
one
of
those.
So
specifically
we
focused
on
walking.
T
A
So
we
have
a
question
for
Mr
Webber.
Q
Yeah
I
didn't
see
any
slide
that
actually
showed
the
existing
tree.
Canopy
I
visited
the
site.
Today,
the
mature
large
trees
are
along
Glebe
Road.
Q
Q
T
This
slide,
one
of
the
things
that
it
shows
is
the
tree
canopy,
but
that
is
something
that
we
could
certainly
address
with
some
better
visuals
in.
Q
A
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
and
you'll
probably
hear
us.
Mr
Webber
say
this
a
few
times
tonight
that
these
don't
reflect
an
actual
proposal.
So,
while
they're
potential
massing
models,
it's
hard
to
say
that
you
know
when
we
ultimately
come
forward.
This
tree
will
be
here.
History
will
not.
We
just
haven't
designed
to
build.
A
A
L
Yeah
I
would
just
like
to
second
Mr
Weber's
comments
on
that
and
I
noticed
on
the
applicant's
presentation
that
there's
no
mention
of
tree
canopy
on
the
frequently
asked
questions,
so
that
might
be
something
else
they
might
want
to
add
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
yeah.
Q
T
That's
right
so
I'd
like
to
just
be
thought
of
that
very
briefly,
so
the
applicant
provided
a
transportation
analysis
as
part
of
their
tier
one
application,
which
also
satisfies
that
requirement
for
a
tier
two
staff.
Actually,
as
Sergio
presented,
runs
our
own
transportation
analysis.
So
we
are
actually
looking
at
General
models
through
ite,
so
those
are
based
on
and
seriously
better
than
can't,
but
on.
T
No
real
relationship
to
actual
you
know:
pandemic
post-pandemic,
you
know,
conditions
Etc
and
again.
This
is
theoretical
based
on
assumptions.
So
if
this
was
to
advance
to
a
site
plan
for
site
plan
application,
the
applicant
would
actually
in
the
building-
and
we
actually
know
we
would
require
a
full
multi
these
analysis
of
that
juncture
and
that's
when
it
would
be
really
important
to
make
sure
that
the
time
of
the
year
Etc
is
accounted
for
in
that
full.
A
Okay,
let's
move
back
to
that
discussion.
Outline
next
item
was
the
discussion
of
whether
there's
a
concurrence
with
the
proposed
low
medium
residential
buff
designation.
So
if
you
hear
something
from
commissioner
will
tell
me,
I
welcome
other
back
reactions.
A
C
Yes,
is
you
calling
me
yes,
ma'am?
Yes,
okay,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
whether
this
is
an
appropriate
question
now
or
whether
there's
a
and
I'm
having
a
hard
time
Hearing
in
this
hybrid
format.
But
I
was
just
curious
about
doing
this.
Redevelopment
I
mean
it's
important
to
have
assisted
list
living
facilities
and
Residences
for
seniors,
and
it's
also
I
I
understand.
My
question
here
is
I
understand
now,
for
so
there's
something
different
from
what
I
read
that
there
is.
C
There
are
going
to
be
77,
Maori,
family
residential
units
Plus,
the
128
I
hear
that
right,
Assisted,
Living
units
and
I'm
curious
about
whether
any
of
either
of
those
housing
types
are
going
to
be
affordable
and
at
what
rates,
because
one
of
the
things
that
would
be
a
community
benefits,
that's
absolutely
lacking
in
in
Arlington,
is
Affordable
Assisted
Living
and,
of
course,
we
need
to
increase
the
number
of
affordable,
affordable
housing
units
anyway,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
know
is:
are
these
Assisted
Living
units
going
to
be
an
apartment
type,
or
are
they
going
to
be
a
a
a
more
nursing
home
type
with
with
a
bedroom
and
a
separate
bathroom,
and
what
an
accessibility
level
are
they
planned
to
be
at
there's.
A
I
Actually
so
I
think
I
there
were.
There
were
two
questions.
I
heard.
The
first
was
about
affordable
units
here,
so
as
of
right
now,
the
building
is
is
not
designed.
We
don't
know
what
the
final
density
or
unit
account
will
be.
We
are
not
proposing
any
affordable
on-site
units
here
at
this.
At
this
juncture,
I
will
say
that
Sunrise
does
do
a
number
of
things
to
try
to
make
the
units
more
affordable,
one
of
which
is.
We
have
a
variety
of
unit
sizes.
I
So
we
have
everything
for
two
bedrooms:
one
bedrooms
down
to
Studios
who
made
them
more
affordable.
We
also
have
at
Sunrise
and
we're
just
some
other
Senior
Living
providers,
a
lot
of
sharing
in
our
units,
meaning
that
we
have
two
bedroom
units
with
two
individuals
that
share
it.
That
brings
down
the
cost
and.
G
I
Find
that
makes
it
more
affordable
for
people
the
challenge
with
affordable
housing
and
Senior
and
Senior
assisted
living
is
you
can
discount
the.
F
I
But
you
can't
discount
the
care
for
someone,
so
we
find
that
by
having
variety
of
room
sizes
and
sharing
it
does
allow
for
a
little
bit
more
affordability.
The
other
issue
is
frankly
Market
forces,
which
is
rather
than
the
new
senior
housing
built
in
20
years,
there's
just
very
limited
Supply.
When
you
increase
the
supply,
it
tends
to
bring
down
the
overall
overall
cost
in
the
market
in
terms
of
the
design.
This
is
what
I
think
is
called
a
group
living
which
means
that
every
individual
or
couple
has
their
own.
T
I
still
just
like
to
add
just
to
the
very
beginning
of
your
question,
commissioner
Ray,
there
is
no
proposal
for
multi-family
on
the
table.
The
applicant
is
proposing
elder
care
and
when
we
model
the
scenarios
we
model
it.
U
C
I
I
I'm
not
sure
if
I
follow
what
you
mean
by
levels
of
assisted
living,
but
Sunrise
typically
provides
the
highest
level
of
Assisted
Living
available
short
of
skilled
nursing,
independent
or
yes,
okay,
oh
I'm,
sorry
sure,
if
you
mean
you
know
from
the
gamut
of
active
adult
yeah.
I
Assisted
living
or
skilled
nursing,
active
adult
is,
is
essentially
an
apartment.
Building
where
you
say
You
must
be
55
or
older
to
live
here.
That's
not
what
this
is.
Independent
Living
is
for
seniors
in
group
living,
but
doesn't
provide
any
care.
That's
not
what
this
would
be
still
nursing
at
the
far
spectrum
is
is
full
on
Medical
Care,
24
7,
which
is
now
what
this
is.
This
is
Assisted
Living.
F
I
A
You,
commissioner,
Schneider.
A
P
I
would,
on
behalf
of
the
Commission
on
Aging
I,
would
just
like
to
Echo
the
concerns
of
commissioner
Rafe
about
the
need
for
affordable,
assisted
living,
and
we
raised
this
in
a
private
meeting
with
Mr
McGraw,
Mr
Whitmore
and
his
team.
The
sunrise
folks,
about
our
hope
that
Sunrise
will
set
aside
some
units
as
affordable
and
I
would
like
to
remind
the
sunrise
folks
in
their
development
in
Old
Town,
the
sunrise
of
Old
Town.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Schneider
okay,
I
do
want
to
kind
of
get
us
back
to
see
if
there's
any
more
comments
on
on
the
proposed
glove
designation.
A
So
you
know
if
there
aren't
comments,
we'll
move
on
I'll
sort
of
I.
Think
the
the
silence
at
or
interpret
it
as
Ascent,
but
Mr.
J
F
A
U
F
A
A
member
from
our
Housing
Commission
I
wonder
Ms
Schneider.
Are
you
aware
of
that
commissioner
Schneider.
P
Not
not
informally,
but
informally
is
all
I
can
say.
So
it's
it's
through
various
committee
work
on
that
information
is,
but
staff
does
not
track
it.
County
staff
does
not
track
it.
J
F
A
All
right
so
I'm
I'm
not
hearing
any
strong
critique
of
the
club
designation.
So
we
shall
move
on
in
our
conversation.
The
Guiding
principles
I've
already
suggested
one
Amendment.
A
Senior
Living
I
was
just
trying
to
encapsulate
what
we
heard
I
think
previously,
okay
tonight,
but
Senior
Living
any
other
any
other
amendments
to
the
guiding
person
all
right,
seeing
any
hands.
Let
us
move
then,
to
the
massive
experience
this
Road's.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
putting
up
scenario,
one
and.
H
I
have
a
few
questions
if
you
can
just
walk
me
through
a
little
bit
the
massing
on
this.
So
the
first
question
is:
why
didn't
the
building
Circle,
the
edge
of
Third
Street
20th,.
L
T
T
Would
be
maybe
more
appropriate
here
and
then
the
idea
was
to
have
the
greater
number
of.
O
F
T
From
Glebe
Road
there's
a
wall
in
a
elevation
there
on
the
edge,
and
then
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
setback
that
you
can
see
for
the
townhouses
just
to
the
north.
T
H
So
yeah
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there
isn't
sort
of
sort
of
intent
on
that,
like
you
know,
through
the
transportation
or
some
analysis
or
some
Clause
and
and
something
that
the
community
was
interested
in
having
because
my
first
sort
of
blind
approach
to
this
site
would
have
been
to
line
the
exterior
and
create
like
a
bit
of
a
buffer.
You
know
or
a
bit
space
between
the
neighbors
and
the
in
the
building.
I
agree
that
Glebe
should
have
the
highest.
H
H
You
know
so
facing
the
the
public
front
of
plebe,
I
think
makes
sense,
I,
think
transitioning
down
as
you
go
along,
20,
20th
I
think
makes
sense,
and
then
perhaps
you
know,
I
I
think
there
was
some
mention
of
underground
parking,
so
I
think
if
I
recall
correctly,
if
I'm
an
engineering
perspective
given
the
grade,
you
know
that
could
be
used
to
your
advantage.
H
The
fact
that
a
long
lead
we're
at
the
beginning
of
20th
there's
this
sort
of
lower
level,
which
you
know,
creates
the
opportunity
to
put
that
under
underground
parking
garage
with
less
ramp.
You
know
which
builds
in
the
efficiency
making
sure
that
the
street
running
front
and
even
20th
is
the
one
sort
of
reaction
that
I
have
right
away.
I
think
the
height
analyzes
are.
H
I
think
you
know,
particularly
if
you
can
taper
towards
the
neighbors,
you
could
achieve
sort
of
a
good
transition
and
even
Some
Noise
buffering.
You
know
I
think
the
one
concern.
F
H
Would
have
was
with
the
existing
canopy
I
think.
Unfortunately,
you
know
we're
almost
inversing
the
the
current
situation
with
the
new
proposal,
but
I
think
creating
that
transition
from
sort
of
urban
to
suburb,
and
you
know
the
the
party.
That's
a
from
a
guard
architecture.
That's
like
the
diagram
is
sort
of
this
L
along
the
edge,
so
I
think
if
staff
could
take
a
look
at
that
and
sort
of
pros
and
cons
and
tapering
towards
the
West.
H
Sorry
I
think
that's
it.
For
now.
A
U
H
Think
the
short
answer
is
I.
Think
no
I
do
not
and
I
think
there's
not
enough
of
a
contrast
caused
me
to
have
a
strong
preference
one
way
or
the
other
I
think
it
starts
to
become
on
on
the
detail.
One
of
the
things
that
the
existing
structure
has
is.
It
has
a
lot
of
scale
and
how
should
I
say
this?
It
has
elements
on
the
architecture
that
make
it
residential
in
flavor
and
I.
H
Think
some
of
that
can
be
brought
back
but
again,
I
think
it
really
is
on
the
design
where
you
can
transition
from
the
more
urban
to
the
more
residential
in.
H
H
The
building
is
almost
a
better
thing
as
far
as
it
relates
to
the
neighborhood
and
as
far
as
it
sort
of
blending
in
but
I
think
you
know,
I
would
react.
Obviously,
with
more
detail
and
more
preference
once
I
see
some
more
details,
right
I
have
to
say
for
the
applicant
the
the
the
spruce
plan.
That's
in
your
presentation
is
not
particularly
encouraging.
So
just
commissioner.
A
React:
okay,
I
want
to
go
to
commissioner
Haynes
and
I'll
come
to
you,
commissioner,
wash.
L
Your
hands,
thank
you,
yeah
I,
you
know,
I
get
it
that
these
are
massing
studies
and
that
we
are.
This
is
not
the
sprc
I
get
all
of
that,
but
I
think
to
the
point
that
was
made
earlier.
The
fact
that
there
are
some
mature
trees
along
Glebe
Road
and
if
one
of
the
guiding
principles
is
preservation
tree
conservation,
it
seems
that
we
really
do
need
to
be
thinking
about
that.
L
There's
also
another
tree
a
large
tree
right
on
20th
and
seems
to
me
as
we're
thinking
about
the
the
larger
picture
of
you
know:
I'm
fine
with
a
higher
density
along
Glebe
Road,
but
it
needs
to
be
in
the
context
of
that
tree
preservation
because
they
really
are
the
worth
worth
preserving
in
that
site.
Thank
you.
A
A
G
Pretty
much
everything
that
commissioner
sorely
was
saying:
I
don't
have
approach
in
the
scenarios
other
than
to.
F
G
As
much
mass
as
possible
along
the
road
and
shrink
it
down
into
the
neighborhood
as
much
as
possible,
you
know
a
long
lead.
It's
a
very.
It
is
a
very
busy
street
I
think
there
actually
would
be
some
sound
reading
effects,
but
the
more
massive
you
have
there
to
the
neighborhoods
that
go
down
the
hill.
G
G
Q
I
was
just
wondering
if
it
were
possible
to
share
picture
I
have
on
my
screen
of
the
view
of
the
Glebe
Road
Frontage.
Q
At
this
picture,
I'm
I'm
reminded
that
the
neither
the
current
picture
nor
any
of
the
scenarios
picture
the
overhead
wires,
which
are
pretty
prominent
and
I
and
should
be
undergrounded
in
any
civilized
Community
and
those
would
inhibit
any
restoration
of
the
canopy
along
Glebe
Road.
You
don't
show
the
very
large
White
Pine
it's
about.
Oh
I
would
guess
60
feet
tall
right
there.
Q
So
that's
what
I'm
that's
what
I'm
you
know
getting
at
and
it
did
in
addition,
several
sycamores
and
Oaks
there
along
Glebe,
Road
You're,
just
showing
the
ground
level,
and
and
thank
you
for
showing
the
overhead
wires,
which
need
to
be
undergrounded
in
all
roads
in
Arlington
over
time
they
inhibit
the
tree
canopy,
and
that
has
to
be
a
component
of
what
we're
considering
in
terms
of
priority
outcomes.
A
Okay,
so
we're
doing
that
any
other
questions
comments
on
the
masking
scenarios,
where
the
most
appropriate
height
should
be
located.
A
Lots
of
different
things
and
favor
to
the
community
both
to
the
north
and
to
the
into
the
West
and
I'm
experienced
that
folks
are
okay
with
low
medium
residential
and
that
people
support
this
additional
guiding
principle
there.
That
would,
you
know,
ask
for
senior
living
on
this
site
or
investors
yeah
we're.
M
A
The
older
canopy
I
think
to
be
captured
in
the
study
document
and
then
certainly
things
that
would
you
know,
should
be
addressed
if
they
said
go
to
a
site.
One
which
is
you
know,
draw
concern
concerns
about
parking
loading,
storm
water
management.
H
Have
a
quick
question:
yes,
I'm
sorry
is
r10
T,
just
the
north
of
that
is
that
the
density.
G
S
F
F
J
Foundation
damage,
so
one
of
our
one
of
our
neighbors
is
actually
postponing
the
installation
of.
F
H
I
Care
if
I
could
just
address
I
can't
comment
on
the
on
the
solar
panels.
The
building's
not
designed
we
don't
know
what
height
and
masking
will
be.
At
this
point
regarding
the
structure,
though
I
will
say,
you
know,
we've
built
almost
300
sunrises,
all
across
North
America,
in
a
variety
of
different
areas.
So
just
an
example.
In
the
last
couple
years,
we've
built
new
ones
in
Manhattan
on
East,
56th,
Street
right
at
a
corner
immediately
next
to
other
buildings
and
in
Old
Town
Alexandria.
I
A
Thank
you,
Miss
Walker,
commissioner
Walker
I
should
say,
and
then
I'd
like
to
try
to
go
to
publiconic
as
well.
R
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
given
Sunrise
I'm
just
assuming
that
pedestrian
access,
including
wheelchair
access,
is
being
considered
a
long
leave,
Road
I
assume
that's
going
to
be
part
of
a
separate.
You
know
discussion,
yes,.
A
Commissioner
Walker,
that
is
part
of
the
slight
plan,
Review
Committee
process,
site
access
site
circulation,
is
a
part
of
that
discussion,
and
that
would
be
something
to
bring
up
at
that
time.
Okay,
thank.
F
A
A
I,
don't
know,
commissioner
McIntyre.
We.
O
Will
start
with
you
yeah
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
it
in
terms
of
the
overall
structure
is,
is
you
know
the
mass
scene
that's
being
proposed?
Is
in
actually
it's
you're,
just
you're
pulling
down
an
old
building
and
the
carbon
emissions,
and
it's
not
that
old
of
a
building
is
pretty
the
the
embedded
carbon
and
that
needs
to
be
considered
as
part
of
sustainability,
of
of
not
reusing
existing
structures
and
then
the
footprints
is,
it
seems
almost
impossible
to
preserve
the
trees
in
the
open
space.
O
That's
there
within
the
space,
which
is
going
to
have
issues
related
to
storm
water
management
as
well
as
just
deteriorating
open
spaces
and
and
finally
I
just
comment
is
that
you
know
kind
of
living
in
the
neighborhood
and
seeing
it
is
the
existing
building
really
fits
in
well
with
the
neighborhood
and
I.
Don't
know
that
you
know
the
new
what's
proposed
for
the
new
building
seems
to
be
somewhat
out
of
place
for
for
what's
existing
there
now.
K
U
K
K
K
F
K
All
or
that
we've
had
the
benefit
of
County
planners
attention
to
our
concern.
This
proposal
will
change
our
neighborhood
forever.
Does
that
not
deserve
a
fair
and
impartial
hearing
from
the
powers
that
be?
What
is
the
point
patient
in
agreement
or
in
descent?
If
the
planners
have
already
made
a
decision
and
to
be
able
to
see
what
a
typical
unit
layout
of
senior
housing
looks
like
what
the
likely
floor
plan
will
be
based
on
Project
Sunrise
is
currently
building.
K
We
should
have
an
explanation
about
why
the
entrance
to
the
parking
garage
can
only
be
on
20th
Street,
and
not
only.
We
deserve
to
know
how
much
disruption
to
our
daily
lives
will
come
from
this.
What
are
the
trade-offs
and
the
benefits
right
now?
I?
Don't
see
any
benefits
at
all
for
our
neighborhood,
certainly
not
for
our
home.
K
W
I,
don't
know
how
I
follow
that
that
was
really
good.
Thank
you.
So
much
Joanne
I
actually
live
my
family
and
I've
gone
on
Brandywine
in
2018.
We
faced
the
back
of
Sunrise.
Currently
you
guys
have
been
an
excellent
game.
W
K
W
There
is
because
we
felt-
and
that
has
completely
focused-
and
it
makes
me
feel
bad
for
the
other
families
that
live
on
the
street
that
have
also
purchased
and
learning
provided.
You
know
I,
so
I
really
really
would
love
if
you
just
when
you
do
redo
this.
If
it
does
happen
that
you
consider
your
neighbors
also
to
the
West,
because
it
really
is
gonna
affect
our
quality
of
life.
So,
while
you
say
you've
reached
out
to
the
neighbors,
I've
never
received
it
or
not,.
W
Do
mailers
all
the
time
I
know
how
to
reach
people
I've
never
been
reached
out
to
you
all,
but
you.
O
W
I
really
just
hope
you
all
consider
you
know
really.
The
impact
is
going
to
have
on
the
community,
because
you
know
we
also
purchased
in
proximity
in
close
proximity
that
lead
Elementary.
W
Where,
if
this
happens,
my
son
will
no
longer
be
able
to
walk
to
school,
which
he
is
going
to
be
going
to
elementary
school
next
year.
So
you
know
it's
it's
unfortunate,
the
timing
of
all
of
this,
but
we
understand
not
against
development,
not
against
Improvement.
W
A
D
Good
evening,
I'm
a
resident
on
20th,
Street
and
I've
been
there
for
28
years.
D
I
have
co-existed
my
wife
and
I,
and
our
son
we
co-existed
with,
but
I,
would
not
say
that
we
loved
having
sunrise
on
that
property
I.
Think
Sunrise
as
it
currently
exists,
is
maximizing
the
use
of
that
property.
Any
any
change
whatsoever
to
increase
the
density
of
use
of
that
property
would
be
detrimental
to
everybody
on
20th
Street.
Anybody
who
goes
to
school
at
the
leaves
School
through
the
neighbors
to
the
north.
Anybody
who
is
going
to
have
to
come
by
that
area
on
Glebe
Road,
it
will
just
be
extremely
difficult.
D
I
would
keep
the
zoning
or
the
designation
as
R6
I
would
not
increase
it,
and
if
I
were
the
property
owner,
I
would
consider
doing
what
you
can
with
what
you
have
it's.
What
everybody
else
does
in
Arlington
we
modify
from
within
we,
we
increase
the
value
using
changes
to
our
own
property
and
maybe
increase
the
note.
D
The
width
of
a
hallway
we've
we've
done
that
at
our
house,
we've
increased
the
size
of
a
room,
that's
what
you
do
to
improve
value
and
your
amenities,
an
annual
potentially
attract
your
clients,
but
I
would
not
do
it
by
doubling
tripling
the
number
of
units
on
site.
That's
just
greed.
D
X
I'm
Lindsay
stuffed
I've
lived
in
Northern
Virginia
four
years
old,
1996
I've
lived
in
plain
Indiana
and
Arlington,
but
the
name
sounds
familiar
to
you
guys.
My
dad's
actually
robbed
parallel.
X
So
I
just
have
a
quick
question
for
you.
What
is
the
current
great
at
Sunrise.
X
Okay,
because
that's
just
interesting
to
see
I
also
worked
at
jll
and
and
at
jll
I
would
package
the
lens
student
house.
So,
as
you
said,
this
is
so,
if
you
were
to
get
this
zoning
pass
and
say
maximize
the
highest
five.
F
R
X
X
X
I
X
F
I
I
think
it's
and
Mark
I'm
happy
to
let
you
answer
this.
The
zoning
doesn't
change
until
an
actual
site
plan
is
approved,
so
you
can
just
sell
it
to
Greystar
and
say
Google
multi-family.
Do
they
have
to
go
through
the
entire
site
plan
review
process?
That
would
reflect
all
this
saying.
It's
supposed
to
be
senior.
A
I
A
Thank
you.
Our
next
speaker
is
Lucia
balkazai.
V
So
I'm
my
name
is:
we
just
bought
the
house
writing
to
April,
in
fact
in
May,
and
so
when
we
bought
it,
we
sort
of
knew
that
Sunrise
was
planning
to
develop,
but
we
weren't
expecting,
you
know,
suddenly
deal
with
the
six
story
building
or
something
as
massive
as
if
you're,
seeing
now
and
I
would
just
like
to
tell
you
to
please
consider
the
building's
height
in
relation
to
the
townhouses
on
the,
because
even
the
the
structure
is
already
on
Higher
Ground
relative
to
our
townhouses.
V
Announced
because
that's.
U
B
Hi
I'm
Carl
settlemeyer
I'm,
a
neighbor
I
live
on
North
20th
Street
Sunrise
has
been
great
for
our
neighbors
mother
who
just
passed
away
and
has
been
grateful
friend's
father
in
that
regard.
All
of
you
guys
in
high
esteem
but
frankly
living
at
the
bottom
of
a
of
a
you
know
two
block
long
cul-de-sac
where
your
Cisco
trucks,
frequently
either
illegally
parked
in
front
of
the
building
or
get
stuck
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill,
say
nothing
of
the
every
single
time
your
landscaping
company
is
parked
illegally
in
front
of
the
fire
hydrant.
B
This
exacerbates
the
problem
that
is
not
reflected
adequately,
in
my
view,
in
any
of
the
staff
presentation,
which
is
the
Topography
of
that
street
I
looked
at
the
topographic
map
that
Arlington
has
on
its
website
and
from
what
I
can
count
counting
the
bars
in
a
50-foot
span
from
the
top
of
the
hill
down
to
Glebe
Road
you're,
going
down
a
8
to
10
foot
decline
at
the
top
of
the
hill,
which
you
can't
see
over.
You
can
see
what's
in
front
of
you
on
Glebe
coming
the
other
way.
B
That
goes
down
into
a
again
a
street
with
a
a
very
narrow
passage
for
sometimes
only
one
vehicle
at
a
time
can
pass,
and
also
when
you
mention
in
the
staff
presentation
the
pickup
and
drop
off
the
elementary
school
you're,
not
accounting,
also
for
the
heavy
foot
traffic
in
the
morning
around
between
8
30
and
9
A.M,
and
between
3
30
and
4
P.M
when
the
school
kids,
their
families,
their
dogs,
their
younger
siblings,
are
walking
up
on
Paul's
Hill
up
20th
Street
into
the
back
of
Glebe,
from
through
my
yard,
which
we
let
people
cut
through
from
over
in
the
Greenwood
townhouses
come
through
and
go
down,
Brandywine
and
all
of
those
those
kids
have
to
contend
with
riding
and
the
more
traffic
you
bring
the
worse.
B
A
A
I
know
that
there
are
some
folks
here
who
expressed
that
some
of
their
concerns
aren't
addressed
this
process
and
I
want
to
reiterate
what
I
said
at
the
beginning
of
this
evening.
Number
of
the
concerns
you're
raising
are,
is
there
anything
are
addressed
through
the
site
plan
process,
so
things
like
traffic
things
like
parking
loading
where
those
trucks
go
tree,
tree
canopy,
strong,
Water
Management.
K
W
A
A
A
A
A
We're
at
right
now
is
not
designed
to
answer
that
question
I'm,
saying
that
that
would
be
answered
at
the
next
stage
and
we
could
be
at
that
stage.
The
answer
there
could
be
that
we
don't
recommend
that
the
process
go
for
it.
Well,
I
should,
hopefully,
you
should
all
understand
is
that
if
we
recommend
that
this
process
go
forward,
it
is
not
saying
that
we
as
a
planet.
Commissioner,
we
as
an
lrpc
endorse
the
sunrise
proposal.
That
is
not
what.
W
Just
nobody
is
singing
I
mean
if
you've
ever
bought
a
home
before
just
visiting
it
for
an
hour
you
decide
if
you
want
to
buy
it
right
after
you
buy
it
after
you
move
in.
Do
you
discover
things
that
you're
like?
Oh,
oh
this
by
living
there?
So
what
we
want
is
just
because
we're
living
this
every
day.
You
know.
A
I,
don't
understand,
and
I
guess
to
reiterate
is
that
this
isn't
yeah.
This
is
the
this
is
the
sort
of
beginning
of
this
process
in
a
way
and
there's
a
lot
more
analysis
to
come.
There's
a
lot
more.
A
Neighborhood
understood
interested
so
no
I
hear
you
and
your
your
concerns
have
certainly
been
heard,
but
yes,
is
this
right.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Ray.
C
Yes,
thank
you.
I'm
I'm,
not
I'm,
entirely
sure
where
this
is
going
and
whether
there's
going
to
be
another
meeting.
C
So
there's
a
process
question
in
this
for
me,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
one
I'm
concerned,
because
if
there's
a
Redevelopment
going
on
here,
where
will
the
current
residents
go
and
and
I
hope
not
to
a
nursing
home
or
something?
Because
because
that's
why
they're
in
Assisted
Living
to
be
able
to
live
independently
with
Services,
of
course?
But
so
the
other
thing
is
I
I'd
like
to
know
what
level
of
accessibility
is
going
to
be
used
here,
because
technically
any
facility,
that's
Assisted.
C
Living
comes
under
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act,
which
is
not
necessarily
true.
If
it's
a
facility,
that's
used
only
as
body
family,
residential
and
also
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
fast
will
be
used
and
then
the
last
thing
is
I'm
wondering
if
the
applicant
is
going
to
contribute
to
improving
the
accessibility
of
pedestrian
infrastructure.
That
was
kind
of
mentioned
by
somebody
else
and
I
think
it
is,
is
very
important
in
that
neighborhood
to
improve.
If
there's
going
to
be
a
community
benefited
improving
pedestrian
inner
struck
infrastructure
will
be
important.
A
I
A
Lf3C
doesn't
take
votes,
it's
sort
of
the
sense
of
the
lrbc
and
to
kind
of
answer
the
other
question
this.
This
is
I
think
at
this
stage,
our
last
lrpc
meeting,
if
I'm
looking
at
those
file
a
four
point
well
in
the
future,
if
we
get
to
a
stage
where,
where
any
board
does
adopt
study
documents
and
the
applicant
is
able
to
file
four-point
line,
there
would
be
future
site
plan
meetings
at
that
stage.
A
I
The
process
that
this
this
roads
walked
through
Mr
McGraw
right
regarding
outside
of
our
physical
study.
That
would
be
obviously
up
to
Burlington
County
staff
and
for
me
yes,
obviously,
we
work
with
them
all
that,
in
terms
of
our
own
site,
the
property
that
we
control.
Of
course,
we
build
our
properties
to
the
highest
required
Ada
standards.
I'm
sure
you
can
imagine,
many
of
our
residents
are
in
wheelchairs.
So
it's
incredibly
important
to
us
and
your
first
question
about
the
existing
residents.
They
are
in
assisted
living
now.
I
Sunrise
operates
a
number
of
other
assisted
living
communities
in
Northern
Virginia.
We
would
work
with
each
family
to
temporarily
move
them
to
another
community
and
then
once
the
new
building
was
built,
we'd
welcome
them
back
to.
Q
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
propose
that
the
guiding
principles
of
storm
water
management
explicitly
include
consideration
for
preservation
of
tree
canopy
and
pervious
surface
I'm.
In
related
to
that,
the
undergrounding
of
the
overhead
wires.
A
I
I
Don't
have
an
answer
really.
This
process
is
taking
significantly
longer
than
We've
originally
anticipated.
A
Document
a
few
months
you
know,
and
then
we
go
to
the
County
Board
the
advertise
to
go
up
Amendment
and
then
they
would
have
to
files
a
4.1
site
plan.
We
have
to
build
the
site
plan
process,
which
is,
let's
call
it
six
months
once
it
starts,
and
then
it
would
have
to
break
around
so
you're,
probably
talking
and
permits
everything
like
that.
So
you're,
probably
talking
a
year
or
at
the
earliest
before
they
could
even
consider
that
maybe
longer
I.
A
So,
okay,
well
again,
when
I
think
folks
for
coming
out
and
preparing
those
concerns,
I
would
encourage
you
to
follow
this
process
there.
There
is
a
place
to
sign
up
online
to
kind
of
follow
this
process
along
if
you
haven't
not
already
but
again,
I
do
want
to
thank
you.