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From YouTube: Arlington's Digital Destiny | Part 2
Description
A panel of technologists and futurists led by Arlington's Department of Technology Services discuss how technology is rapidly shaping the future and how Arlington can position itself as a leader in what ever comes next.
A
Welcome
back
to
our
conversation
on
Arlington's
digital
destiny,
with
our
distinguished
panel
of
futurist
from
around
the
region.
Jack,
let's
start
with
you,
you've
discussed
an
inflection
point
for
Arlen
Tony
ins,
where
they
will
either
be
disrupted
or
disruptors.
Can
you
set
the
stage
for
this
next
session
when
we're
focused
on
Arlington
and
the
national
capital
region,
and
what
the
digital
destiny
44
here
looks
like
yeah,.
B
And
that's
a
tough
question
but
I
think
you're
right.
It's
we've
been
talking
about.
That
is
what
really
reaches
the
hearts
of
our
constituents
at
community.
What
what's
going
to
motivate
them
when
a
challenge
we
have
is
we're
asking
how
come
we
don't
have
more
participation
from
the
community
in
terms
of
what
we
do
and
plan?
Is
it
because
of
disinterested
are
involved?
These
are
some
of
the
most
involved
people
in
the
world.
If
you
talk
to
them
individually,
you'll
find
it
that
committed
to
this
community.
B
They
love
this
community,
but
they're
not
about
to
follow
the
processes
we
would
like
them
to
follow
to
articulate
what
they
want,
and
so
how
do
we
reach
those
people
and
I?
Think
that
inflection
point
once
you
get
that
recognition
that
you
understand
what
the
people
are
doing,
the
majority
is
looking
for
and
then
you
can
move
forward
to
developing
plans
to
meet
their
needs
to
satisfy
the
personalization
I
think
did
you've.
C
C
How
are
we,
how
are
weary
engaging
so
we
have
like
post
offices
and
communities
that
are
just
buildings
to
buy
stamps
and
ship
packages?
How
can
we
think
about
that?
Being
a
digital
hub
being
a
place
to
do
transaction,
be
a
physical
place
in
your
cubicle?
So
talk
about
the
good
stuff,
that's
going
on
in
the
community.
We
talked
about
this
earlier
right.
C
B
D
That's
a
really
good
example
when
we
pursue
that
a
little
bit
to
see
if
it
brings
us
to
new
place.
So
one
of
the
things
we
were
talking
to
your
librarian
about
and
I've
spoken
to
librarians
around
the
u.s.
about
this,
is
they
have
these
makers
faces
now?
How
cool
is
that
and
plus
they're
trying
to
get
broadband
connectivity
faster
connectivity
to
people?
Sometimes
it's
not
in
their
home,
so
it
could
be
at
the
library,
and
so
when
you
think
of
that
changing
its
kind
of
face
you're
getting
a
facelift.
D
D
Absolutely
so
they're
doing
all
this
cool
stuff.
So
if
we
use
that
as
an
example
because
before
it
was
cat
card,
catalogs
member
mirror
kids
and
maybe
not
you
vote
card
catalogs,
you
know
very
you
put
the
one
in
the
wrong
place.
Forget
about
I
came
for
anything,
and
so
how
could
we
use
that
as
an
example,
maybe
for
how
the
public
square
could
change
I?
Actually.
E
Don't
think
the
public
squares
physical
I
mean
we're
on
the
cusp
of
virtual
reality.
You
know
people
right
now.
They
are
using
snapchat
that
using
messenger
things
and
what's
great
about
that
too,
is
when
it's
not
in
person.
It's
already
digital.
It's
already
data,
you
can
measure
it
and
you
can
analyze
it.
So
it
may
be
more
about
digital
public
forums
as
a
way
that
is,
you
know,
approachable
and
transparent
and
highly
accessible,
I.
Think.
D
That's
a
great
point
for
the
digitally
adept
the
ones
who
want
to
be
digitally
didn't
everybody
wants
to
be
digitally
adept
yet
so
I
think
that's
good
for
that
crowd.
I
totally
agree
with
you,
I'm
thinking
of
all
these
cool
apps
and
how
it
all
comes
together
on
my
phone
or
whatever.
But
then
what
about
the
other
people?
You
know
that
you
want
to
get
to
too
because
they're,
probably
part
or
maybe
you're
saying
eighty
percent
of
arlington
is
the
digitally
adept.
I
don't
know
or.
C
Maybe
if
you,
if
you
said
I
want
to
engage
and
with
a
cub
reporter
program
in
arlington,
county
school
system,
for
the
kids,
with
snapchat
to
engage
around
a
transit
problem
or
whatever
problem
you
wanted
to
talk
about
and
say,
show
me
how
we
experience
us
today
and
talk
about
how
we'd
like
to
experience
this
in
the
future
through
kids
and
have
the
kids
working
with
their
families
and
so
on.
Life
just
figure
out
how
to
get
folks
and
go
to
where
they
are
they're.
E
D
So
soon
or
like
take
the
cameras
out,
what
is
it
that
ad
that
they
had
where
they
said
run
like
a
girl?
You
know,
you
know,
you
know
the
one
I'm
talking
about
and
the
first
one
is
better
than
same.
Unlike
a
girl
and
I
go
like
this,
but,
like
you
actually,
let
them
kids
will
do
that
kind
of
stuff.
Right
though
they'll
play
act.
That
would
be
kind
of
fun
to
say.
So
how
would
it
be
different?
D
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
right
example,
but
but
going
where
they
are
and
letting
them
share,
and
you
know,
come
out
of
their
chrysalis
and
be
a
butterfly
and
say
this
is
how
I
wish
it
would
be.
This
is
how
it'll
be
when
I
grow
up
like
what
is
it
going
to
be
like
when
you
grow
up
mm-hmm?
What
do
you
think
sure
Sean.
B
You
talk
about
the
challenges
that
we're
facing
with
this
digital
destiny,
and
you
say
that
you
can
ignore
it,
but
it's
going
to
happen,
it's
it's
coming,
you
know,
and
what?
How
do
you
see
that
playing
out
in
the
community
like
this
and
bought
in
the
region?
I
mean
I?
When
is
that
go
back
to
Christian
original
question?
Where's
that
point
of
inflection,
all
of
a
sudden
that
people
say
boy,
that's
something
we
need
to
consider,
isn't
what
does
it
always
happen
in
our
case,
an
IT.
It's
a
crisis.
B
F
I
think
if
you
see
what
people
are
doing
today,
what
what
think
tanks
and
universities
are
working
on
today
when
they
start
to
look
at
what
communities
will
look
like
in
30,
40,
50
years,
they're,
building
the
communities
that
make
sense
and
allowing
those
been
to
attract
the
type
of
you
know,
individuals
that
will
then
occupy
those
those
communities.
So
you
have,
two
forces
have
been
at
the
same
time.
F
One
is
servicing
the
community
as
it
exists
today,
and
one
is
building
the
services
that
will
service
the
community
that
will
exist
30
40
50
years
from
now,
and
so
you
see
we're
on
in
10
has
already
done
that
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
crystal
city.
We
live
the
techshop
1776
all
of
those
services
in
the
community,
not
only
service
existing
residents
within
the
community,
but
attract
new
residents
to
the
community.
I
think
Arlington
is
uniquely
positioned
in
Washington
DC
to
be
an
urban
center
around
a
city
that
has
height
restrictions
around
their
building.
F
So
we
globally
have
this
push
towards
urbanization.
It
will
happen
in
a
very
interesting
way
in
the
DC
metro
area,
because
you
can't
build
skyscrapers
in
Washington,
DC
and
so
they'll
start
to
show
up
in
Arlington
will
start
to
show
up
and
in
other
places
you
already
see
that
happening
in
crystal
city
in
rosslyn
and
so
I
think
that
will
start
to
frame
this
community
differently
in
30
or
40
50
years
as
we
urbanized
the
world.
You.
B
Know
is
a
test
run
an
article
to
you
about
Hudson
Yards
in
New
York,
where
they
applied
the
best
practices
of
planning,
the
best
practices
how
to
develop
the
community,
and
it
seemed
to
be
some
pushback
taking
place.
We've
seen
that
here
in
this
community,
where
we
applied
when
we
thought,
were
the
best
practices
and
said
this
is
a
great
idea.
Let's
do
it
in
the
community
said:
that's
really
not
something
we
want
transportation,
you
showed
you
and
I
were
talking
about
transportation.
B
You
know,
let's
build
a
streetcar
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
not
everybody
and
maybe
goes
back
to
the
idea
of
certain
communities
want
a
different
way
of
commuting
and
traveling
with
among
themselves.
So
it's
is
it
always
the
best
practices
that
we
need
to
apply,
or
is
it
don't?
We
need
to
get
some
sort
of
ground
set
in
terms
of
what
exactly
does
a?
Does?
A
community
want
I.
D
Think
you
should
ask
them
so
you
know
when
someone
calls
you
and
they
like
they
talk
and
talk
and
talk,
and
they
say:
I
have
to
go.
I
don't
have
time
to
talk
what
they
mean.
Is
they
don't
have
time
to
listen,
never
happened.
You
I
just
saw
that
happening
a
day.
Is
that
of
translation?
They
didn't
have
time
to
listen,
so
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
listen
I.
Think
we
start
by
asking.
What
is
it
that
you
want?
D
F
Had
I
asked
my
customers
what
they
wanted,
they
would
have
asked
for
a
faster
horse,
so
we
can't
always
rely
on
the
individuals
to
think
about
what
they
want
and
that's
where
you
want
the
innovators,
the
entrepreneurs
living
in
those
communities
designing
new
services
that
they
want
to
be
part
of
and
that
they
want
to
partake
in
and
it's
it's
allowing
the
community
to
ebb
and
flow
to
bring
those
services
in,
while
still
maintaining
some
of
the
integrity
that
it
defines.
The
community
I.
D
Think
what
people
wanted
was
to
go
faster.
So
in
their
mind
it
was
a
faster
horse
and
you
know,
and
so
there's
a
different
ways.
That's
why
you
want
to
get
to
the
root.
What's
the
root
that
they're
looking
for
I
want
to
go
faster,
I
want
to
go
farther.
You
know,
I
want
to
be
more
connected
to
my
family,
that's
global!
Now
you
know
my
daughter's
in
Spain,
my
niece's,
that
you
know
I've.
You
know
how
do
I
help.
You
know
them
do
that.
I
have
what's
that
by
a
wee
chat.
D
E
But
one
thing
we
have
no
now
more
than
ever
is
more
data
and
that
allows
us
to
be
more
analytical
and
also
more
transparent.
So
you're
saying
we
do
know
where
the
right
places
for
bike
shares
are
because
we've
been
tracking
the
streets,
we
know
where
the
traffic
is.
We
made
a
smart
decision,
here's
our
methodology.
This
is
why
we
picked
it.
It
makes
you
not
just
seemed
accessible,
it
makes
you
seem
smart
and
it
kind
of
restores
people,
faith,
Thank.
F
C
Moment
there,
though,
is
to
be
clear
about
the
problem
and
the
data
at
the
real
facts
and
the
analytics
behind
it
and
have
a
real
conversation
about
that.
Not
the
presumption
that
you've
done.
The
smart
thing
are
going
to
do
the
smart
thing.
It's
kind
of
combining
those
two
thoughts
right,
which
is
to
say
yeah
I,
want
to
engage
the
community,
yet
I'm
gonna
community
in
a
very
deliberate
way
around
a
problem
and
the
data
animal
looks
as
we
see
them
and
try
to
get
to
a
new
place.
F
So
the
problem
is,
though,
things
like
bike
shares
can
be
added
to
street
corners
and
start
to
flesh
out
a
community
in
an
ad
hoc
way
and
I
think
some
of
the
problems
that
we
are
facing
today,
our
problems
that
won't
really
fully
materialize
until
2050
or
until
2060,
but
because
we're
dealing
with
long-lived
assets
like
buildings
that
that
have
life
spans
of
50
60
years.
We
need
to
start
making
those
decisions
now,
so
you
take
a
look
at
something
simple,
like
retail,
we're
about.
F
Seven
percent
of
what
we
buy
is
online
and
and
I
think
most
analysts
day
would
say:
maybe
that
doubles
I
could
see
an
environment
where
it's
forty.
Fifty
sixty
percent
of
what
we
buy
is
online
because
already
today,
you're
seeing
appliances
that
can
start
to
order
things
on
your
behalf.
So
we're
going
to
move
towards
not
just
autonomous
vehicles,
but
autonomous
shopping
where,
where
are
our
home,
is
bindings
on
our
behalf,
so
the
retail
environment
that
we
today
visit
won't
be
the
retail
environment.
We
need
40
50
years
from
now.
F
The
infrastructure
we
have
in
the
buildings
that
we
live
in
the
homes
that
we
live
in
will
need
to
shift
as
we
start
to
move
towards
these
type
of
environment.
So
everything
that
we
know
today
can
and
will
change
because
of
the
digitization
of
things
that
don't
even
necessarily
impact
that
geographic
space,
the
digitization
further
digitization
of
retail,
is
going
to
change
everything
I
do
today
in
my
home
in
my
building
how
I
walk
where
I
go
to
the
shops
I've.
Is
that
all
that
could
change
that.
E
Is
gonna
change
taxes
I
know,
a
big
reason
that
pop-up
shops
are
popular
now
is
because
you're
not
actually
performing
any
retail
activity
in
the
shop
you're,
just
taking
up
some
space
and
paying
rent
for
it
right
and
that's
big.
You
see
change
like
bonobos
and
Warby
Parker,
right
and
other
things
that
you
see
the
younger
people,
love
right
and
there's
no
Commerce
actually
happening
in
that
store.
E
C
Already
happening,
yeah
think
about
is
the
uniqueness
of
the
region
that
were
in,
and
we
were
talking
about
this
a
little
bit
earlier
and
also
what
Sean
was
just
saying
about
the
the
building
limits
and
how
things
are
going
to
push
around.
It's
like
it's
really
important
for
Island
and
county
to
recognize.
It's
not
just
Arlington
County,
it's
part
of
that
capital
region
and
everybody
in
that
region
should
be
working
together
for
the
betterment
of
that
whole
region
and
that
the
tax
be
like.
C
Maybe
there's
different
ways
of
thinking
about
revenue
sharing
or
you
know,
raising
raising
revenue
or
that
we
haven't
even
thought
of
yet.
But
it's
all
all
of
that
intellectual
property
is
changing
how
many
exchanges
and
moves.
So
it's
all
going
faster.
What
are
we
doing
to
think
about
it
regionally
and
then
think
about
the
problems
transportation,
green,
like
all
of
that,
is
impacted
in
the
whole
area.
We
can't
just
say
Arlington
County
anymore,
so.
A
Taking
that,
can
we
focus
a
little
bit
on
what
distinguishes
not
only
Arlington
but
the
national
capital
region
from
elsewhere.
So
a
lot
of
what
we're
talking
about
is
really
applicable,
because
we're
saying
this
change
is
happening
everywhere.
What's
specifically
here,
do
we
have
what
are
the
assets
we
have
to
offer.
E
I
think
that
access
to
decision-makers,
it's
something
that
we
talk
a
lot
about
in
the
start
of
space.
Why
would
you
be
here
if
you're
doing
transportation,
you
know
the
Department
of
Transportation?
Is
here
right?
You
can
talk
to
senators
about
transportation
if
you're,
if
you're
working
in
Washington
DC,
you
can
change
regulations
that
can
put
a
moat
around
your
business
if
you're
smart,
which
can
be
really
great
for
some
of
this
new
stuff.
That's
coming
out.
That
is
very
personal,
like
if
you're
hiring
someone
to
drive
your
child,
which
is
the
evolution
of
uber.
E
C
A
B
Well,
we
actually,
you
know,
sort
of
been
Mike
in
a
good
way
and
I
don't
mean
this.
The
way
it
sounds,
but
by
911
I
think,
because
911
brought
us
to
the
point
of
recognizing
that
you
have
to
walk
work
collaboratively
at
that
time.
It
wasn't
the
federal
government
who
came
in
and
said
we're
here
to
help
you.
It
wasn't
the
state
it
was
a
fire
chief.
B
He
took
charge
and
said
I'm,
not
in
some
communi,
and
we
got
to
make
this
work
and
recover,
and
so
what
we've
done
since
then
is
we've
done
a
lot
of
things
that
I
really
mocked
as
I
be
unusual.
We
meet
on
a
regular
basis
to
public
safety
chiefs
with
me.
The
IT
guy
that
doesn't
happen
in
many
jurisdictions
were
frankly,
the
fire
guy
doesn't
talk
to
police
guy
and
heck
yeah
they're
not
going
to
talk
to
the
IT
guy
right,
but
to
having
that
discussion.
So
we
did
things
like
computed,
aided
dispatch.
B
So
that's
when
you
call
911,
somebody
gets
the
phone
says:
okay,
where
I
only
send
somebody
out.
So
what
we
decided
to
do
is
collaborate,
so
we
have
in
Northern
Virginia.
We
look
at
where
you
are
so
you
haven't
falls
church.
It
might
be
better,
you
call
911,
it
might
be
better
for
fifth
acts
to
come,
take
care
of
to
get
to
you.
They
have
four
minutes
to
get
to
you.
If
you
say
you
had
a
heart
attack,
they
can't
get
you
in
four
minutes.
Your
likelihood
of
survival
are
slim.
B
So
by
doing
this
now
we've
automated
into
jurisdictionally
how
we
we
operate
and
I
fire
chief
is
not
a
deputy
county
manager
is
really
pushing
for
the
idea
that
more
cross
regional
types
of
things
need
to
be
done.
Why
should
I
learn
to
build
its
own
radio
system?
I
watch
it
out
on
samsung
commit
computer-aided
dispatch
system.
Why
don't
we
have
Fairfax
to
Alexandria
or
the
District
of
Columbia,
but
to
do
that
requires
trust
and
sharing,
and
you
know
that's
a
big
step,
because
we
all
we
all
look
at
ourselves
as
unique.
B
Ours
is
different
than
Alexander
and
we
want
to
be
different
and
that's
why
we're
better,
and
certainly
with
better
than
District
of
Columbia,
but
the
reality
is,
if
you
want
to
go
into
district
conv
and
you've
got
a
pack
mobile
application,
you
don't
want
to
get
their
application.
You
want
to
use
black
mobile
the
park
and
that's
what
we
have
now
I
think
more.
That
has
to
take
place,
but
it's
really
a
cultural.
It's
not
a
technical
issue
with
us.
It's
been,
you
know.
B
D
E
A
row,
and
sometimes
it
makes
something
ripe
for
disruption.
I
think
uber
is
a
great
example
of
that.
Hopefully,
it'll
affect
transportation
as
well,
I'm
sure,
not
the
only
person
that
hates
the
bus
lines
conveniently
stop
near
County
limits
that
are
completely
arbitrary
to
me.
You
know
we're
really
one
city
I
think.
C
With
the
federal
government
in
the
in
the
region,
have
you
know
if
you
had
arlington
county
in
DC
and
montgomery
county?
Let's
just
say:
there's
the
name
like
come
together
to
the
Department
of
Transportation
say
we
want
to
do
something
together.
What
could
we
do
that?
That
might
be
a
different
presentation?
It
might
be
a
different
than
than
building
the
trust
and
doing
something.
It's
it
I
think
it's
it's
an
opportunity
to
take
advantage
of
all
of
the
things
and
the
challenges
that
we
don't,
because
we're
comfortable
running
things
the
way
they're
running
today.
B
D
Across
areas
or
things
well,
New
York
after
911,
you
know
had
to
do
that
for
public
safety
reasons.
So,
and
they
talk
about
that
in
that
Hudson
Yards
article
that
you
sent
right
have
a
lot
of
things
are
integrated
and
they
have
a
great
surveillance
system
that
they
actually
have
been
selling
to
other
other
cities
as
well
in
Rio.
God
bless
them
getting
ready
for
the
Olympics.
A
D
They
had
the
world
cup,
they
actually
integrated,
like
15
or
20
of
their
city
systems,
so
that
they
can
share
the
data.
They
have
big
issue
with
mud
slides
there
when
it
rains
a
lot
and
they're
trying
to
keep
people
safe,
especially
as
all
these
all
these
people
that
don't
usually
live
there
come
into
the
city.
D
You
know
when
they
have
the
Olympics
so
they're,
not
they
don't
have
the
instinct
that
maybe
the
people
they
already
have,
which
makes
it
more
dangerous
and
so
they've
actually
integrated
all
the
15
or
20
of
the
systems,
and
so
they
can
share
the
data
and
mayor
Eduardo.
Paes
actually
did
a
TED
talk
on
this
a
few
years
ago,
where
he
talks
a
little
bit
about
that.
So
that's
an
example,
but
they
had
a
potential
risk.
You
know
that
they
were
trying
to
mitigate
that
they
needed
to
deal
with.
B
Greenfield
areas
estonia
example,
we're
busy
is
what
is
they
had
to?
They
had
to
stop
they
so
I,
don't
know
only
how
to
rebuild,
but
you
know,
that's
something
will
you
you
mentioned
that
you
talk
well,
estonia
is
doing
it,
people
look
at
you
like
you
got
to
be.
You
know
that
wouldn't
work
in
allenton
it
may
not,
but
the
thing
is
it's
at
least
it's
a
model
of
where
they've
had
to
be
think
how
they
do
business.
I.
C
Don't
want
your
making
or
over
again
as
well
it's
the
pain.
If
there's
pain,
people
will
come
together
to
try
and
work
through
it
and
unfortunately
it
takes
crisis
moments
that
are
there.
But
so
the
question
is:
do
you
have
the
data
to
create
an
argument
that
builds
the
burning
platform
that
that
enables
people
to
come
together?
Make
markets
get
created
off
of
that
they
invest,
because
that
need
is
there
and
you
can
see
a
return
off
of
so.
E
D
B
It's
not
a
little
bit
about
that
I'm
in
open
court.
Let
me
dive
down
into
that.
I
mean
the
head
of
Metro.
He
said
it's.
We
need
maximum
investment
of
money
from
the
local
jurisdictions
to
rehabilitate
metro
right,
and
it
also
I
mean
that's,
that's
we
spent
a
lot
of
money.
Allenton
was
a
leader
in
that
we
had
more
stars,
portarlington
anyplace
else.
It
made
huge
benefit
to
us
in
terms
of
a
community
development
and
such
but
putting
it
on
the
hat.
B
D
It's
time
to
rethink
it
I
think
it's
really
time
to
rethink
the
transportation
system
in
this
area,
because
when
you
have
to
it's
like
when
you
have
an
old
car
and
you
have
to
put
like
you
know
thousands
of
dollars,
as
you
know,
well,
actually
I
want
a
Tesla.
You
know
so
I'll
use
like
a
zipcar
until
that
or
whatever
it
is.
You
have
all
these
new
potential
business
models.
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
time
to
rethink
it
and
it
actually
gets
into
master
planning
if
you'll
excuse
the
concept
right.
D
It's
like
I'm
on
this
infrastructure
master
plan
advisory
council
right
now
for
university.
It's
a
10
year
plan
with
a
30
year
outlook
interesting
right,
so
maybe
you
could
do
some
I
know.
Isn't
it
cool,
so
I
can
send
you
something
on
that
if
you
want
yeah,
and
so
maybe
you
actually
think
of
it
in
a
master
plan
perspective,
you
know
the
transportation
system
these
little.
You
know
these
pods
and
areas
like
in
Crystal
City.
D
A
You
even
see
beyond
that
those
and
not
having
the
geographical
borders
connecting
us
but
hopping
over
kind
of
a
digital
concept
of
a
sister-city,
the
old
school
sister
city,
where
maybe
I
can
see
a
connection
with
somebody.
You
know
three
states
away
or
something
like
that
that
that
might
for
just
and
help
move
things
forward.
I
think.
E
Community
is
going
to
be
revolutionized,
I
mentioned
it
before,
but
virtual
reality
alone
is
just
huge.
I
mean
people
engage
in
a
completely
different
way.
You
know
now
people
are
entirely
accessible.
You
know
you
can
tweet
it
anybody
you
want
in
the
whole
world
and
with
all
that
data
out
there.
Well
certainly
I
mean
we'll,
certainly
matchup
people,
people
are
already
getting
matched
up,
I
mean
dating
completely,
has
changed
in
the
last
ten
years.
A
good
example.
That's
only
the
start,
mm-hmm
friendships,
businesses.
It's
all
going
to
happen.
That
way.
You.
D
Were
talking
about
this
before
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
time
for
you
to
expound
on
it.
We
were
talking
about
like
regions
and
you're,
saying
they're,
not
like
physical
anymore,
like
communities
aren't
physical
there's
something
else
there
cultural
or
there
whatever.
So,
if
that's
kind,
that
makes
me
think
of
what
you're
talking
about
right.
Now,
too,
is
there
like
something
that
you
see
regarding,
like
city,
master
planning
or
regional
master
planning
for
the
future?
E
I
think
that
to
do
that,
back
to
city
master
planning,
you
have
to
figure
out
like
first
of
all,
what
is
it
you're
trying
to
cultivate?
Who
do
you
want?
More
of
and
unfortunately,
who
do
you
want
less
of
and
in
particular
areas
and
where
do
people
belong
and
I
mean
like
if
you
go
and
you
see
that
we
live?
E
How
do
we
get
the
people
we
want
and
how
do
we
very
politely
not
attract
the
people
we
don't
want,
so
we
can
create
that
kind
of
density
and
I.
Think
that
you
know
the
advent
of
P
working
from
home
has
also
created
this
isolation
that
now
people
are
kind
of
they
have
like
this
gap
that
they're
kind
of
trying
to
reclaim
right
now
and
I.
Don't
think
people
know
it's
definitely
not
a
solved
problem.
All
right,
you're
right
about
that
more
coffee
shops
had.
F
Always
worth
it,
but
everyone's
less
copy,
that's
a
part
of
the
urbanization
of
communities,
though
in
a
region.
So
as
we
move
to
more
greater
urban
settings,
density
increases
and
I
think
our
footprints
actually
shrink
all
right.
So
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
a
much
more
walkable
city,
so
that
changes
all
of
these
other
type
of
investment
decisions
around
what
type
of
transportation
does
one
need
when
one
never
leaves
a
mile
radius
or
two
mile
radius,
and
so
that
will
change
demand
for
those
type
of
services
as
well
and.
C
E
D
E
C
D
A
really
good
example,
so
she
knows
a
particular
area
where
it's
really
difficult
to
get
there,
but
she
does
want
to
have
some
congregation
and
people
want
to
come
together.
So
that's
a
good
if
you're
going
to
do
use
cases
of
transportation
challenges
you
have
today
and
how
could
you
envision
a
better
future?
That's
a
great
example,
and
maybe
you
can
find
some
others
of
them
well,.
C
Not
only
that,
but
where
are
they
trying
to
go
at
that
time,
because
a
lot
of
them
will
be
working
from
home
parts
of
communities
that
come
and
go
fluidity
right?
It
was
upped.
I
say
that
right
liquidity
know
that
liquidity
to
be
able
to
if
they
don't,
they
can
come
and
go
together
as
much
as
they
need
to
you.
B
F
About
this,
we
live
is
just
an
example,
and
actually
they
don't
restrict
by
age,
but
you
you
do
get
self-selection
and
you
actually
have
a
really
interesting
group
of
individuals
that
live
there
because
of
the
type
of
services
that
are
offered.
It's
not
a
living
space.
Where
you
bring
your
furniture,
the
furniture
is,
it
seems.
F
What
we're
getting
to
in
some
of
these
instances
is:
does
the
internet
make
sense
here
and
we
start
to
explore
if
the
internet
make
sense
here,
I
think
you
see
that
in
consumer
electronics
we
tend
to
talk
so
much
about
things
like
smartwatches,
but
really
what
we're
fundamentally
asking
is:
does
the
internet
make
sense
on
the
wrist
and
if
it
does,
what
are
the
really
interesting
use
case?
Scenarios
and
I
think
that's
more
broadly.
What
we're?
F
What
we're
looking
at
in
all
of
these
experimentations
does
the
internet
make
sense
in
a
vehicle
and
if
it
does,
does
it
spur
autonomous
driving
and-
and
if
that
does
then
what
does
that
start
to
look
like,
because
when
you
digitize
an
environment,
you
can
fundamentally
change
that
environment
x.
Vehicle
doesn't
need
a
steering
wheel.
It
doesn't
need
seats
that
face
forward.
You
could
put
a
desk
in
there.
You
could
put
a
couch
in
there.
You
can
put
a
hot
tub
in
there.
F
You
can
do
what
whatever
you
want
in
that
environment,
because
you've
digitized
it
you've
connected
it,
you've
sensorized
it.
So
if
that's
true
with
vehicles,
where
else
is
that
true,
and
what
does
that
start
to
look
like
so
in
my
home,
if
everything
is
digitized
connected
sensorized,
how
does
it
start
to
change
the
way
I
use
that
space?
Well,
how
big
does
that
space
need
to
be?
How
small
can
that
space
be?
All
of
those
questions
start
to
be
going
to
be
vetted
out
there
all
on
the
table
and.
E
With
space
being
more
flex,
well,
you
know
old
fashioned
zoning
laws,
kind
of
come
into
question
because
you
could
receive
ibly.
If
a
space
can
reassemble
itself,
you
could
use
it
for
anything.
You
can
sleep
there.
It
can
become
a
shop
in
the
morning
and
at
night
it
could
host
a
meet-up
right
and
so
a
lot
of
these
contracts
we
have
we'll
just
you
know-
have
to
fade
away
for
something
else,
because
you
can
everything's
flexible
now,
but.
F
D
C
C
F
It's
what
are
the
externalities
on
the
community
I
mean
that
to
use
an
economist
term
right,
so
there's
positive
spillover
and
there's
also
a
negative
spillover
and
and
government
is
trying
to
limit
the
the
negative
spillover.
Well,
accelerating
the
positive
spillover.
I
think
that's
more
fundamentally.
What
we
need
to
try
to
get
to
that
was.
The
whole
premise
behind
permits
is:
how
do
we
limit
negative
consequences
for
some
institution
being
created
in
some
environment?
How
do
we
increase
the
positive
benefits?
F
E
B
It
takes
to
present
mindset
is
that
applied
for
doctor's
visit,
call
for
doctor's
visit.
They
say
takes
21
days
in
the
average
to
get
a
doctor's
visit.
You
go
in
and
people
when
they
serve
am
say.
You
know
four
or
five
say
I
was
really
dissatisfied
with
the
diagnosis.
I
got
other
care,
I
got
and,
and
you
know,
and
the
questions
isn't
that
now
going
to
it
change
as
well
as
major
transformation,
I'm,
not
not
right
now,
but
maybe
in
the
future.
No.
C
No,
it's
a
question
of
not
health
care,
it's
health
and
care.
Okay,
that's
something
I
doctor
say
that
to
me:
it's
not
I
didn't
make
that
up,
but
it
was
it's
like
these.
You
know.
How
are
you
thinking
about
your
health?
You
know
if
I'm
wearing
a
Fitbit
watch
and
watching
what
I
eat
and
getting
on
the
scale
and
before
I
eat
the
chips.
I've
run
a
mile
and
a
half
which
I
never
do
jazz.
C
Then
you
know
how
am
I
thinking
about
my
health
and
the
question.
Then
the
next
question
is
okay,
so
what
care
am
I
getting
when
I
do
have
something
that's
wrong
and
how
and
how
is
that
being
taken
care
of,
and
then
how
you're
creating
healthy
communities
and
that
give
access
to
both
of
those
things.
E
Yeah
I
forget
the
exact
numbers,
but
there's
fewer
than
a
million
physicians
for
everybody
in
the
United
States.
So
one
of
the
big
things
that
I'm
seeing
right
now
and
in
fact,
there's
a
local
startup
in
Arlington.
That's
doing
this
called
door
sada
is
that
they're
recording
doctor
decisions,
because
eventually,
if
you
see
how
doctors
work,
you
can
train
nurse
practitioners
to
do
the
same
decisions.
And
eventually
a
machine
will
tell
you.
E
You
need
antibiotics
for
your
sinus
infection
and
when
you
do
that,
you
allow
them,
especially
the
most
talented
doctors,
to
focus
on
the
really
important
problems
and
you
provide
better
care
for
everybody
else.
And
it's
more
immediate
and
it's
live
updated
with
data
is
updated
with
new
findings
yeah.
So.
F
I
think
that
the
future
will
be
specializations
areas
will
specialize
individuals
will
specialize,
because
when
the
information
can
flow
freely,
I
don't
necessarily
need
to
go
see.
Somebody
in
the
region
to
have
x
rays
looked
at
or
MRIs
looked
at
or
cat-scans
looked
at.
I
can
have
those
sent
to
somebody
anywhere
in
the
world
who's
an
expert
in
that
particular
MRI
reading
or
that
particular
x-ray
reading,
and
that
information
can
come
back
very
quickly.
I
may
want
somebody
locally
to
implement
the
solution,
but
that
will
change
what
the
infrastructure
looks
like
the.
C
Other
question
to
ask
in
that
that
you
just
sparked
in
my
mind,
was,
is
what
is
the
public
safety
data
say?
What
does
the
health
data
say
and
just
if
you
use
those
two
things?
What
does
that
mean
about
your
commune?
What
is
the
five
percent
thing
that
you
could
do
that
would
have
the
sixty
or
eighty
percent
impact
so.
D
I
think
there
are
a
few
things
that
are
going
to
be
happening.
One
is
the
cognitive
computing
you're
talking
about
you
know.
I
worked
on
the
IBM
Watson
strategy
in
the
night
before
and
I
was
at
IBM
before
I
retired
you're
going
to
take
this
job,
and
that's
one
of
their
big
areas
is
on
health
care
right
and
the
idea
is
that
you
can
gather
all
this
data.
D
You
look
at
historical
data,
you
do
predictive
analytics
and
then
you
can
make
recommendations
either
it
has
to
FB,
fda,
certified
or
a
doctor
gets
to
make
the
choice.
You
know
so
there's
still
some
of
that
regulation.
That's
in
there
too.
Another
thing,
that's
going
that's
happening
already,
though,
is
telemedicine.
I
might
have
shown
this
video
at
the
meeting
when
I
met
you
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
did
but
I
was
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
D
What
I
would
love
is
actually
it's
like.
Okay,
if
he's
home
in
his
pajamas,
like
Prince
George,
had
his
little
bathrobe
on
I'd,
be
okay
with
that.
If
he
was
saving
me
right,
you
know,
so
you
could
do
telemedicine
from
anywhere.
It
could
be
on
FaceTime.
You
know
whatever.
How
cool
would
that
be
so
I
think
there's
going
to
be
an
opportunity
from
where
this
specialized,
but
like
real-time
telemedicine,
which
would
be
really
cool,
still
has
to
be
regulated
to
a
certain
degree.
If
you
want
it
to
be
go
to
someone
else.
D
If
you
want
and
then
the
other
thing
that's
happening,
there's
this
really
cool
video
that
Kaiser
Permanente
has
out
there,
which
has
this
connected
health
care
stuff.
Going
on
we're
like
this
little
kid
has
like.
It
looks
like
a
watch
but
he's
running
around,
and
there
was
a
healer
there's,
an
asthma
alert
that
day
and
it
actually
automatically
sends
information
to
a
nap
and
the
mom
takes
her
iPad
out,
and
it
says:
low
asthma
risk
and
she's
like
oh
okay.
He
can
keep
running
I'm
like
how
cool
is
that
right?
D
So
there's
this
whole
internet
of
medical
things
going
on
too,
and
all
of
these
are
going
to
be
happening
and
it
provides
health
and
wellness
opportunity
right,
making
sure
everyone's,
okay
and
and
providing
the
care
in
a
telemedicine
or
whatever
term
we
use
a
virtual
reality
care
whatever
we
call
it
at
that
time.
You
know
how
low
care
hello
wins
care.
B
Let's
talk
a
little
downside
of
that
I
used
to
work
in
capitol
hill
and
my
job
will
show
you
how
old
I
am.
My
job
was
at
the
time
to
introduce
the
electronic
mail
internet
to
members
of
Congress.
So
I
went
around
to
every
office.
440
members
of
Congress
under
Senators
talked
about
the
internet.
I'd
asked
him,
I
needed
you
two
could
think
about
getting
a
meal
address,
email
address
and
I
went
to
a
southern
congressman.
His
name
is
sonny
montgomery.
B
He
had
been
in
Congress
for
many
many
years
he
came
from
state
of
Mississippi
and
I
said
so
we're
going
to
get
you
this
electronic
mail
address,
congressman
and
you'll
be
able
to
connect
to
anybody
anywhere,
and
he
looked
at
me
and
he
said,
son
I
was
young
at
the
time
his
son,
he
said
I,
don't
want
any
of
this.
I
said.
Why
is
that
he
said
you
folks
in
technology
are
going
to
work
on
medicine.
You
got
to
get
it
to
the
point
where
people
are
going
to
continue
to
live,
they
will
die.
B
We
don't
have
enough
food,
we
don't
have
enough
housing
and
so
I'm
gonna
be
asked
at
some
point
in
time.
Okay,
you
gotta
pass
legislation
because
this
person
has
reached
what
age
are
they
going
to
reach
when
we
turn
off
the
sensors
and
let
him
die,
he
said
I,
don't
want
any
part
of
that
I'm
leaving
Congress
well,
so
that
that
was
maybe
what
1996
something
like
that
95.
But
is
that
a
real
problem?
How
do
we
deal
with
that?
If
we
continue
to
live?
We
were
talking
about
that
earlier.
B
D
Gonna
be
new
ethics
and
regulation
questions
coming
up.
That's
what
I
think
is
going
to
happen.
We
at
this
IOT
discussion
we
had.
We
talked
about
IOT
ethics
and
teaching
kids
ethics
at
a
very
young
age.
Like
you
know,
Katherine
who
made
the
you
know
the
little
garage
door
opener
before
right,
so
they're
going
to
be
new
ethics
discussions,
I
think
and.
E
In
general,
innovation
is
going
to
change
now
that
we
can
control
physical
devices,
so
much
of
our
law
is
based
around
whether
physical
harm
occurred
and
in
the
past
you
know
if
email
didn't
deliver,
nobody
died,
but
now
I
mean
your
toaster
could
kill
you
and
that's
vague
and
that's
going
to
change
the
way
that
software
developers
develop
it's
going
to
change.
You
know
our
QA
processes
right
and
a
lot
of
that
will
warp
now
that
code,
physical
harm.
E
A
The
examples
you
talked
about
you
gave
the
example
of
how,
from
a
work
perspective,
people
started
teleworking
more
working
from
home,
but
then
they
missed
the
interaction
with
people.
Some
of
the
examples
you
talked
about
with
medicine,
how
you
know
soon
computers
are
going
to
learn
well
enough,
but
they
can
make
the
diagnosis
themselves.
Is
there
a
concern
at
all
in
this?
A
This
digital
focus
that
we're
losing
the
not
the
personalization,
but
the
human
touch
so
I'm
just
trying
to
think
you
know
we
talked
a
lot
about
well,
how
do
we
know
what
it
is
that
we
should
be
focusing
on?
We
need
to
engage,
we
need
to
engage
people
where
they
are
we
to
convene
the
government
first
should
convene.
How
do
we
ensure
that,
as
we
move
forward
in
this
digital
future,
we're
not
losing
that
human
touch?
You.
D
I
think
so
because,
like
you
know
like
in
the
cognitive
computing
health
care
strategy,
you
know
there's
a
doctor
or
you
know
someone,
that's
certified,
you
know
to
actually
make
the
decision.
You
know
that
has
the
instinct
that
can
look
at
you
and
say:
oh
you
look
little
jaundice,
though
you
know
it,
it's
not
I.
Don't
think
that's
exactly
right.
So
that's
one
decision,
but
that's
something.
We're
gonna
have
to
be
cognizant
of
I.
Think
you'd.
C
Embrace
the
opportunity,
yeah,
there's
so
much
opportunity,
so
much
good
and
and
then
also
don't
pretend
that
you
don't
live
in
a
world
where
you
have
to
think
about
these
things
as
well,
and
it's
a
genius
of
the
and
and
figure
out
how
to
how
to
find
the
right
balance
between
those
two.
Yet
to
not
do
it
because
you're
afraid
of
what's
going
to
happen,
30
40
years
down,
the
road
is
it's
it's
not
what
we're
about
yeah.
F
If
we
focus
on
worst-case
scenarios
will
never
get
best
case
scenarios
who
always
beep
end
up
with
some
mediocre
outcome
and
I
think
so
often
throughout
history
we
have
assigned
our
deepest
fears
to
technology.
You
kind
of
look
back
at
sci
fi
in
the
50s
and
60s
and
we
had
fear
of
annihilation,
and
so
that's
where
you
know
a
lot
of
sci-fi
was
built
around
the
sphere
of
annihilation.
Now
we
have
these
fears
of
no
longer
being
relevant.
F
So
we
have
these
fears
of
robots
taking
over
all
of
our
jobs
and
making
us
relevant
and
I.
Think
you
see
even
what
Watson
has
done
and
is
empower
people
to
make
other
decisions,
so
it
changes
certainly
changes
the
way
we
live,
work
communicate,
but
it
doesn't
replace
the
way
or
replace
that
we
live
work
and
communicate.
D
B
My
son
was
here
that
last
night
and
he's
a
musician
plays
a
bluegrass
band,
so
he's
off
after
Chattanooga
Tennessee
for
content.
I
was
top
we're
talking
about
this
today
and
he
says
yeah
I
understand
what
you're
doing
what
the
people
are
talking
about.
But
what
about
the
people
who
drive
the
cars?
We're
not
gonna
have
jobs
any
longer.
Other
people
are
the
attendance
at
the
medical
offices
weren't
going
to
be
there
and
we
were
inclusively,
read
our
mission
statement
out
of
the
county.
It's
we
were
all
inclusive
community.
B
C
E
There's
computer
science
that
is
being
taught
back
when
I
did
interactive
storytelling
stuff,
something
very
similar
to
the
phrase
you
used
was
we
always
said
code
or
be
coated
you're
either
building
the
future
or
somebody
else
in
this
world
is
building
the
future,
and
that's
part
of
why
it's
important
that
we
have
lots
of
engineers
and
if
we
have
more
of
them
here
in
Arlington
we're
going
to
build
more
of
the
future
than
the
rest
of
the
United
States.
And
that
would
be
great
here.
A
That's
great.
Thank
you.
That's
a
great
point
to
end
so
I
want
to
extend
my
appreciation
to
this
illustrious
panel
Sean
Florence,
Cheryl,
Jack
and
Frank
I,
look
forward
to
talking
about
the
next
steps
and
how
we
can
move
this
conversation
forward
and
engage
a
broader
audience
in
helping
to
define
Arlington's
digital
destiny.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.