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A
About
what
are
the
rules?
How
do
we
follow
them
properly?
I
just
want
to
do
one
more
quick
overview
here.
We
have
met
Quorum
by
the
skin
of
our
team
today,
and
this
goes
to
show
like
how
important
it
is
just
to
figure
out.
Let
me
know
ahead
of
time,
so
we
can
figure
out
this
if
we
aren't
going
to
meet
Forum
an
agenda
that
does
not
include
us
from
making
progress
on
our
commission,
basically
so
yeah,
just
let
me
know
but
work
I'll
hand
it
over
to
you
sure.
B
Thank
you,
chair
Hoopa,
so
good
evening.
My
name
is
Marco
Rivero
I'm,
the
Park
and
Recreation
Commission
staff
liaison
and
welcome
to
the
May
meeting.
B
I
would
like
to
remind
our
attendees
that
the
PRC
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
that
just
started.
We
would
ask
that
Commissioners,
presenters
and
attendees.
Please
mute
your
microphones
and
turn
off
your
video
feeds.
B
If
you
are
not
speaking
for
those
attending
on
Via
telephone,
you
can
mute
and
unmute
your
microphones
by
dialing
star
six
and
the
top
toolbar
contains
a
raise
your
hand
function
in
case
a
commission
member
or
presenter
as
a
question
during
the
meeting,
Commissioners
and
presenters
may
share
their
screens
using
the
shared
content
box
above
the
chat
box
will
also
be
checked
routinely
mainly
to
address
logistical
questions
or
items
that
may
come
during
the
meeting.
B
A
B
And
others
on
the
commission
joining
us
virtually
will
be
recognized.
First
then,
in
person
attendees
will
be
able
to
comment
as
way
of
information.
We
will
be
holding
a
public
comment
period
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
Each
public
commenter
will
have
up
to
three
minutes
for
their
comment
and
I
will
speak
a
signal
to
the
speaker
once
time
is
up
and
I
will
admit,
yeah
all
right
and
before
I
hand
it
over
to
our
chair.
I
do
want
to
briefly
remind
folks
about
our
electronic
meetings
policy
and
actually
what
that
means.
B
We
spoke
about
it
just
a
little
bit
right
now
as
it
relates
to
Quorum,
since
there
is
a
physical
Forum
of
eight
members
or
more.
We
don't
have
this
issue,
but
in
the
case
that
we
do
have
this
issue
if
physical
Quorum
has
not
met
the
county,
attorney's
office
has
advised
that
those
members
who
are
attending
virtually
either
leave
the
meeting
or
stay
on,
but
can
only
view
the
meeting
as
an
observer.
B
The
risk
of
the
second
option
is
that
PRC
members
may
still
be
personally
liable
in
case
there
are
any
foia
violations
raised
or
documented
PRC
numbers
cannot
attend
as
public
commenters
in
this
setting.
B
In
other
words,
your
participation
is
based
solely
on
as
commission
members,
so
if
the
physical
form
is
not
met,
that
opportunity
cannot
be
provided
to
you
per
the
policy
and
what
the
Commonwealth
allows
and
I
would
encourage
any
PRC
members,
either
joining
us
online
or
in
person
to
please
contact
the
County
Board
office
liaison
student
County
Board
member
Takis,
Karen
Thomas
who's,
our
liaison
to
this
commission
Sandra
Calisto
Mendoza.
B
A
We
do
on
certain
things
like
naming
and
pushing
those
forward
processes
forward.
Okay,
and
we
also
can't
like
adopt
the
meeting
minutes,
which
is
fine
again.
We
like
push.
We
can
just
push
forward,
push
forward
like
that.
So
it's
not
it's
pretty
mine.
It's
not
we're
not
one
of
those
commissions
where
it's
essential
I
agree,
but
it
is
kind
of
silly
because
I
do
want
still
to
hear
participation
from
everyone
right,
virtual
or
not.
A
We
all
agree,
okay,
plug
your
ears
and
turn
off
the
recording
for
a
second,
but
we
all
agree
that
the
policy
is
kind
of
silly.
The
problem
is
that
we
must
meet
an
in-person
once
we
do
that
all
hinges
unlocked
because
Melissa
and
other
virtual
participation
participants
can
participate.
All
that
jazz
is
good.
You
don't
meet
the
physical
Forum.
Then
we're
really
limited
on
discussion
and
to
me
that's
the
limiting
fact.
C
I
also
believe
when
we
have
issues
that
we
wish
to
express
our
opinions
to
the
County
Board
be
write
letters.
That's
right.
We
have
some
very
important
issues
coming
up
on
the
forestry
and
natural
resources
management
plan,
and
if
we
miss
a
vote,
we
have
missed
our
window
to
present
our
case
before
the
County
Board.
We
could
go
in
public
to
a
public
meeting
and
and
reiterate
that,
but
our
formal
comments
are
passed
around
the
table
and
committee
board
meetings
before
anybody
stands
up
in
public.
D
A
F
A
Something
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
like.
Okay,
we
heard
a
presentation
on
X
today,
Jill's
going
to
write
a
letter
for
x
and
Peter
and
Sarah
and
Colt
will
be
the
Edward.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that,
but
we
could
finagle
it
by
doing
it
over
email
outside
of
the
meeting.
That's
very
silly
Peter
for
everyone,
where's
silly,
but
yeah.
A
So
tldr,
if
you're
not
going
to
make
the
meeting
just
like
any
other
reason,
please
let
me
know
ahead
of
time,
so
we
can
craft
an
agenda
that
and
General
Marco
and
I
meet
on
the
day
that
we
have
these
meetings
every
month,
and
so
we
can
always
be
flexible
with
the
agenda
so
that
we
can
maximize
our
time
together
for
it
who
are
in
person.
Even
if
you
know,
if
you
don't
yeah,
okay,
let
me
do
introduction,
then.
Are
we
good
on.
A
Also
introduce
yes,
so
Nelson
is
not
with
us
today
and
I.
Don't
see
him
online
I
hope
we
can
catch
him
next
month,
but
we
have
two
new
Commissioners
added
to
our
commission
as
of
last
month,
so
we
have
Alex
here
joining
us
Alex.
Do
you
want
to
give
like
a
one
minute
on
you,
your
background,
bringing
you
to
Arlington.
G
H
I
eleven
Arlington
Forest
spent
about
12
years
on
e2c2.
C
And
some
was
a
little
younger
now
he's
a
little
bigger
I
can
afford
this,
but
a
little
more
time
and
I've
been
very
engaged
in
environmental
Affairs.
So,
while
I
was.
A
F
F
A
Going
to
talk
about
field
trip
today,
good
news
on
field
trip,
so
big,
exciting
good
meeting
today,
I
think
we're
ready
to
kick
off
so
I'll
start
off
with
consideration
of
both
the
March
and
April
meeting
minutes
again,
because
we
didn't
meet
Forum
last
month,
we're
approving
both
sets
of
minutes.
A
So
with
consideration
not
hearing
any
opposition,
oh
Nelson's
here,
can
we
take
a
pause?
Oh
wonderful,
yeah,
hello,
take
a
seat.
I
feel
sorry
about
that.
I
really.
G
A
G
I'm
Nelson
commission.
G
In
in
August
for
work
right
out
of
college
and
on
some
email
lists
about
things
happening
throughout
the
community
and
said,
I
want
to
get
involved
with
something
and
look
through
that
list
and
that
Parks
and
Rec
seems
like
a
really
great
place
to
learn
a
lot
about
the
community
to
get
involved.
G
These
parts
every
day,
I,
love
them,
I.
Think
it's
incredible
green
spaces
that
I've
been
able
to
utilize
a
lot
since
I
moved
here
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
really
getting
involved
with
the
commission
and
to.
A
G
E
A
B
Sorry,
yes,
we
have
two
public
commenters
signed
up
to
speak
and
the
first
one
is
Mr
Brian
secrets.
I
Great
thanks
a
lot
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
Brian
cigarettes,
I'm,
the
co-president
of
the
Arlington
Heights
civic
association
and
I,
know
you're
going
to
be
hearing
about
the
career
center
use
permit
here
in
a
minute
by
APS
and
County
staff.
I
You
know,
we've
been
long
supportive
of
APs.
We
actually
have
more
APS
schools
within
our
neighborhood
than
any
other
in
Arlington.
That
being
said,
we
do
have
some
significant
concerns
with
the
career
center
use,
permit
and
I
believe
we
sent
around
a
letter
earlier.
So
hopefully
you
all
receive
that.
But
if
anyone
wants
a
copy
of
the
letter
later,
please
let
me
know,
but
a
lot
of
our
concerns.
You
know
deal
with
issues
we're
all
you
know
focused
on
as
well,
mainly
the
lack
of
green
or
open
space
in
the
use
permit.
I
What
this
use
permit
has
is
constructions
of
new
buildings
is
going
to
maintain
three
large
buildings
which
is
really
going
to
it
cut
into
the
mouth
of
green
or
open
space
on
the
site.
So
we
would
like
to
see
the
year's
permit
modified
to
show
final
condition
of
no
more
than
two
buildings,
which
is
the
eventual
intention
of
APs,
but
it's
not
showing
up
in
this
use
permit
so
right
now,
for
example,
you
know
talking
about
some
of
the
green
and
open
space
for
losing
we're
losing
large,
open
space.
I
That's
been
used
by
both
our
neighborhood
and
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
there's
apartment
building
right
across
the
street
from
career
center
that
doesn't
have
any
sort
of
playground
and
they
use
the
playground
a
lot
so
we're
losing
playgrounds,
we're
losing
basketball
courts,
we're
losing
a
diamond
field
and,
as
I
mentioned
kind
of
the
open
space.
So
with
maintaining
all
those
buildings.
I
You
know
it's
really
going
to
cut
back
on
the
usability
of
this
area
and
you
know
the
parks,
and
we
also
want
to
see
you
know
open
access
to
the
parks,
make
sure
that
the
playground,
okay,
unlocked
we've
had
issues
without
the
past,
with
the
Montessori
School,
locking
the
playground.
We
want
to
make
sure
the
fence
is
only
four
feet
and
not
six
feet
to
make
it
more
accessible.
We
also
want
to
see
that
this
proper
sidewalk
and
streetscaping
around
the
entirety
of
the
site
there's
also
some
environmental
questions
about
this
building.
So
yeah.
I
Those
are
our
main
focuses,
and
you
know
it
really
does
come
down
to
ensuring
that
there's
enough
green
and
open
space
for
this
location
and
that's
been
our
main
focus
and
it's
a
concern.
We've
that's
been
shared
with
other
neighborhoods
around
Columbia
Pike
as
well,
so
I
know
some
of
the
other
ones
are
getting
ready
to
weigh
into
so
with
that
I
think.
That's
it
for
me
and
once
again,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
A
Thank
you
Brian,
and
we
also
passed
around
your
letter
that
you
reported
to
me
for
all
the
Commissioners
here
just
to
keep
in
our
back
of
our
mind,
we.
B
You
thank
you.
The
next
commenter
is
Dr
Bernard
Byrne.
F
J
Yes,
the
department
of
Parks
and
Recreation
is
presently
the
Final
Phase,
where
it's
designed
for
the
up.
It's
the
upper
Blue
Line
Park
project,
Joshua's
Circus,
the
dpr's
principal
plan
for
report
project.
The
project
is
located
immediately
south
of
Wilson
Boulevard
near
Four,
Mile
Run.
It
will
create
it
contains
a
number
of
tennis
courts,
you're,
probably
familiar
with
it
they're
creating
the
logically
auxiliary
building
that
will
have
restrooms
and
other
features.
It
will
also
add
a
tennis
practice
court.
J
Well,
most
importantly,
the
product
will
radically
change
the
design
appearances
of
the
present
for
us
condition.
The
project
had
two
alternative
design
project.
One
would
have
basically
maintain
the
same
conditional
since
my
changes.
Minor
changes,
however,
DTR
selected
design
two
after
the
public
engagement
process,
this
design
will
destroy
a
designated
monarchway
station
near
the
South
End
of
the
parking
lot
north
of
the
South
side's
radio
office
and
restrooms.
A
prominent
sign
of
the
month
on
the
site
identifies
the
Monarch,
Wayside
and
so
people
know
about
it.
J
However,
the
the
project
painted
page
contains
a
diagram
of
these
areas
is
just
conditioned,
but
does
not
show
this
Monarch
weigh
station.
This
was
incompetent,
the
sign
was
there
well,
so
I
was
probably
the
only
one
who
commented
they
need
to
replace
this
weigh
station
or
keep
it
they
had.
This
is
a
product
final
product
does
not
do
that.
I've
written
to
Joshua,
sir,
several
times
no
response,
this
Monarch
Way
Station
contains
much
common
milkweed,
except
for
your
Syria.
J
The
project
was
therefore
contradict
the
county
boards
to
2016
Monarch
pledge
which
states,
whereas
for
decades
all
of
the
county
has
managed
Urban
little
Landscapes
and
public
lands,
as
well
as
wildlife
habitats
with
Native
plantings,
including
milkweed.
Well,
here
they're
taking
outage
there
are
two
monocleid
stations
on
in
this
park.
One
is
being
retained.
That's
closer
to
Wilson
Boulevard,
this
one's
at
the
other
end,
the
south
end
of
the
parking
lot
near
the
restrooms
the
the
park.
J
The
car
is
presently
making
U-turn
around
that
to
make
space
they're
just
for
that
waste
for
the
restroom.
Basically,
they
they
have
pushed
us.
They've
taken
out,
they've
moved
the
the
U-turn
that
the
cars
make
and
taking
out
the
the
Demonic
weigh
station.
There's
no
good
reason
for
this.
At
least
they
could
replace
it
somewheres.
They
could
get
rid
of
that.
A
practice.
Tennis
court,
for
example,
replaces
a
similar
size.
J
Please
therefore
I'm
there
as
there
are
no
plans
were
placed
it.
Please
therefore,
try
to
ensure
the
project
will
retain
or
replace
its
important
feature.
I
mean
this
is
what's
known
as
a
you
know:
biophilia,
etc,
etc,
but
these
the
planners,
if
you
don't,
if
some
planner
looks
at,
looks
at
the
thing,
it
doesn't
see
a
sign,
there's
a
Montague
station.
This
is
the
result.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
public
comments
to
both
of
you.
We'll
start
off
with
our
first
agenda
item,
which
is
a
presentation
on
APS
career
center
project
youth,
permit
presentation,
discussion
by
Olivia
here.
B
Today,
actually,
we
have
Jeff
Chambers
from
APS
and
Jasmine
McDuffie
from
Pacific.
K
L
L
L
M
L
L
Existing
careers
Center
will
remain
in
place,
but
we
are
demolishing
a
portion
of
that
building
to
make
space
for
the
import
ant.
The
scope
of
the
project
includes
a
new
curbless
environment,
which
you
see
a
two-tone
Shades
of
Gray,
and
that
is
a
pedestrian
friendly
environment.
The
only
vehicles
that
will
be
allowed
on
that
site
would
be
buses,
service
vehicles
and
vehicles
that
start
that
are
used
for
the
automotive
program
in
the
school.
L
In
terms
of
the
facilities,
we
also
have
a
number
of
green
spaces
around
the
site.
A
lot
of
those
are
fire
retention
areas
that
are
along
South
Waterview
Drive.
L
We
have
a
new
synthetic
turp,
which
is
item
number
three
and
we
have
as
part
of
the
projects
which
is
starting
this
summer,
providing
new
play
fields
around
mpsa
along
South,
Highland
streets,
and
it
goes
along
seventh
as
well
and
we'll
get
into
more
detail
about
what
those
facilities
I
want
to
call
your
attention
to
on
the
east
side
or
excuse
me,
the
west
side
of
the
new
auditing
career
center.
We
have
a
tree
boss,
provide
some
shading
opportunity
for
students
and
pedestrians
that
are
on
campus.
L
This
is
a
bike
friendly
environment,
so
there's
a
number
of
bike
racks
or
facilities
on
campus,
as
well
as
a
covered,
secure
bike
facility
in
the
garage
we
have.
The
main
entrance
to
the
new
career
center
is
right
across
from
the
Columbia
Pike
Library
entrance
right
there.
Thank
you
so
much
and
then
there's
a
secondary
entrance
off
of
70.
L
L
L
So
there's
a
new
grass
turf
field,
that's
being
planned
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
or
South
side
of
the
plan.
There's
a
new
Synthetic
Turf
field
right
off
of
South
Highland
Street,
and
there
are
three
play
areas
lined
in
this
planned
one
for
ages,
two
to
five
and
two
for
ages:
five
to
twelve
there's,
also
a
half
courts,
basketball
court
adjacent
to
the
digress
field.
L
We're
trying
to
maintain
and
keep
as
many
of
the
existing
trees
as
we
can,
and
so
the
area
in
green
represents
the
plane
curb
the
play
area
curve.
We
have
two
in
this
particular
location,
which
is
on
the
corner:
South
Main,
Street,
seventh,
there's
two
entrances
to
this
play
area
and.
F
L
Area
for
ages,
two
to
five,
those
interests
are
accessible
and
there
are
a
number
of
play.
Equipment
pieces
that
are
located
within
that
enclosure
and
the
shape
of
that
again
is
a
response
to
trying
to
maintain
as
many
of
those
assist
trees
as
possible
and
trying
to
keep
the
equipment
out
of
the
drip
line.
F
L
This
is
the
first
of
the
two
play
areas
for
the
ages,
5
and
12..
This
one
again
has
the
Aryan
green
represents
the
play
curve.
The
extent
of
the
engineered
with
fiber
ground,
there's
an
accessible
entrance
to
this
facility
and
a
play
area
and
again
we're
maintaining
existing
trees
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
in
this
area.
L
L
L
The
image
on
the
left
shows
you
what
it
would
be
like
about
the
buses,
the
majority
of
the
time
that's
been,
bending
by
friendly
biker
machines,
we're
seeing
like
that
just
for
context.
This
is
a
aerial
view
of
the
new
career
center
that
made
insurance
is
located
with
that
canopy
on
the
lower
left
side
message:
yes,
right
across
from
overheating
from
the
library.
L
So,
just
in
terms
of
context,
the
building
stepping
back
off
of
South
watery
drive.
We
should
face
additional
Green
Space
along
along
that
Boulevard,
and
it
also
keeps
the
scale
and
the
mass
of
the
building
back
variety
of
skill,
that's
more
relevant
to
living
surrounding
site
and
across
the
streets.
C
For
those
is
that
a
impervious
surface
there,
that's
a
lot
of
it.
What
is
it
that's?
What
I
meant
impervious
service
yeah.
F
C
F
C
That's
what
I
was
that's
what
I
was
going
for.
So
that's
what
was
forcing
the
the
bio
Swale
piece
yeah,
so
there's
no
way
to
get
around
the.
So
the
concrete
was
there
before
and
it's
still
going
to
create.
A
Okay,
sorry
to
add
on
to
that
so
is
wait
can
use
bike
use
to
expect
like
emergency
vehicles
to
use
this
things
yeah.
N
N
C
L
I'll
be
additional
facility.
That's
going
to
be
available
to
Recreation
Department
is,
is
the
gym
that's
located
on
the
third
floor
plans
of
close
Luke
Arlington
career
center,
and
that
gymnasium
is
on
the
third
floor.
I
laid
on
top
of
the
page
double
above
the
third
floor
joined
the
gymnasium
in
the
context
of
the.
F
N
Okay,
I'm
going
to
go
into
quickly
for
the
the
basic
plants
just
so
everybody
is
aware.
The
comment
that
was
made
with
regard
to
the
hard
surface,
essentially,
the
current
site
is
very
much
impervious
in
the
sense
of
in
the
middle
of
the
site.
You
can
see
all
of
those
parking
spaces.
Currently
there
are
two
sections
of
relocatable
trailers,
so
that's
pretty
much
all
impervious
at
this
point
in
time.
N
The
the
Montessori
Public
School
of
Arlington
on
the
Highland
Street
side
is
currently
a
piece
of
asphalt,
but
we're
also
again
replacing
that,
with
with.
N
N
Essentially,
the
primary
section
of
the
building
is
along
Island
Street.
So
that's
what
we're
there
there's
currently
Gardens
and
a
boy
pond
in
the
corner
inside
corner
that
all
remains
of
that
school
and
then
we
will
be
putting
in
a
grass
play
area.
In
addition
to
the
hard
surface,
basketball
court
and
the.
N
N
It's
better
of
engineered
wood
fiber.
Thank
you
around
the
play
structures
we're
also
creating
Pathways
that
are
bonded
fiber,
so
that
they
can
be
fully
except.
C
C
N
N
N
N
Okay,
and
if
you
go
to
the
other
side
of
the
building,
we
have
a
large
play
structure
that
is
being
added,
which
is
actually
more
play
facility
than
they
currently
have,
which
is
out
along
South,
Monterey,
Drive,
pretty
much
separated
from
the
building,
and
they
have
primary
and
the
Upper
Elementary
altogether,
which
has
always
been
a
problem
and
then
just
plants
out.
This
is
the
next
slide.
Is
this
play
area
so
there's
multiple
structures
and
multiple
pieces
of
equipment?
N
You
can
see
that
Meandering
path,
that
is
an
accessible
path
by
then
they
engineered
wood
fiber,
is
in
between
that
to
the
left
is
a
half
court
basketball
to
replace
the
court?
It
was
actually
a
full
court
now,
but
eight
and
a
half
court
in
this
location,
so
pardon
it
is.
It
is
a
rubberized
surface
that
is
accessible.
We
actually
do
our
playgrounds.
Now
we
have.
F
N
And
other
groups
get
involved
in
our
playground
structures
because
that
we're
making
them
as
accessible
as
possible
while
playground
equipment,
says
it's
accessible,
but
is
it
accessible
for
the
names
they
can
add
because
it
doesn't.
You
know
because
you've
got
hearing
impaired,
you've
got
visual
impairments,
physical
impairments,
and
you
want
to
try
to
tailor
it
to
be
the
best
or
what
the
facility
is
first.
N
F
F
N
Had
buildings
on
it
at
one
time
that
relocatables
there
at
one
time
and
one
thing
I
do
want
to
say
with
regard
to
the
phasing
is
we
have
to
maintain
the
operation
of
Montessori
public
school?
We
have
to
maintain
Supply
programs
that
are
in
these
career
center,
which
has
grown
and
before
Tech
is,
is
a
growing
program,
which
is
why
we
have
the
relocatable
trailers
on
the
site.
There
is
a
need
this
facility,
this
secondary
program,
is.
N
F
N
Play
areas
because
they
have
to
be
in
place
where
Monastery
and
fall,
including
the
guitar
field,
so
that
they
have
those
spaces
to
use
when
they
come
back
to
school,
have
to
make
all
of
those
modifications
change,
but
you
can
see
that's
the
existing
condition.
Next
slide
there.
You
can
see
the
playground
areas
again.
We
had
anticipated
starting
the
field
work
in
May.
B
N
F
N
Same
time
next
slide,
please,
you
can
see.
We've
made
some
modifications
to
the
parking
lot.
We
basically
have
to
maintain
parking
where
the
staff
that
is
currently
there,
so
we
have
approximately
250
spaces
for
the
school.
We
currently
lease
some
spaces
in
the
ecpc
garage
on
the
island
at
night
and
as
we
Face.
N
2024
next
slide,
please.
So
this
you
can
see.
This
is
what
the
site
would
look
like
during
construction.
The.
N
Will
actually
be
has
to
be
built
from
the
boulder
Reed
side
because
we
have
to
maintain
all
of
those
programs
all
of
the
parking
and
all
of
the
everything
that
is
going
on
on
the
site
has
to
be
in
place
as
we
do
this
work.
So
we
have
traffic
patterns
that
modify
and
change.
As
we
view
this
construction
at
the
same
time
leave
the
streets
is
being
designed
for
people
to
read,
you're,
cooperating
and
coordinating
with
the
county
on
the
streets.
N
C
So
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
construction
chair
I.
One
of
the
things
that
we
run
across
is
we,
as
we
hear
presentations
and
they
have
green
space
in
and
then,
when
the
construction
turns
around,
it
turns
out
that
there
are
these
double
secret.
Nobody
knew
about
underground
utilities
that
absolutely
prevent,
ironically,
the
inability
to
put
trees
in
that
green
space.
I,
wonder
if
you
guys
would
be
sure
to
check.
N
C
N
No
thank
you.
Okay
next
slide.
So
anyway,
once
that
building
is
operated,
the
students
will
move
out
of
the
existing
career
center
and
movement,
and
at
that
time
the
relocatables
will
go
away.
F
N
And
we
will
be
able
to
produce
some
of
the
parking
that
we
have
at
ectc
and
we
are
building
a
parking
structure
working
again,
if
you
don't
have
the
final
number
of
parking
spaces
County,
because
that's
determined
with
the
s3a
zoning
is
determined
as
part
of
the
use
permit
as
well
as
setbacking
is
five
stories
current
building.
It's
two
stories.
Needless
to
say,
there's
a
lot
more
square
footage,
a
lot
more
programs
by
programs
that
work
out
at
that
school
plus
the
adult
education,
which
we
don't
really
have
as
part
of
that.
N
So
essentially,
what
we
will
be
doing
is
taking
down
the
high
base
bases,
the
current
shops
and
Labs,
because
that
building
gets
reused
to
be
school
building,
but
not
necessarily
need
shops
that
are
currently
there.
You
can't
use
the
shop
spaces
in
space,
because
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
taking
that
off.
The
only
shop
that
remains
is
the
current
video
or
TV
studio.
N
G
N
F
N
Which
is
intended
to
be
used
by
phys
Ed
classes,
the
space
on
the
corner,
seven
and
Walter
Reed
is
where
that
sometimes
took
place.
But
again
it
wasn't
very
usable.
This
would
be
fully
usable.
We
don't
have
the
lines
finalized,
but
we
have
some
people
request
a
square
where
we
have
the
higher
fence,
so
it
can
be
used.
Along
came
home.
N
Next
slide,
please!
So
then
we
get
to
the
final
condition
of
we
have
actually
shared
this
with
a
lot.
F
F
N
F
N
F
N
F
N
That
we've
done
is
Care.
Center
is
constant
temperature
Loop
to
be
in
future
connected
to
geothermal,
but
we
don't
have
the
space
to
put
anyone.
N
The
use
permit
is
for
the
campus,
okay
and
the
way
the
county
puts
the
use
permit.
Currently
we
have
some
partial
use
permits
I
believe
on
this
site.
We
don't
have
a
full
use
permit.
In
fact,
there
are
multiple
properties
right
now
on
that
you're
all
going
to
be
combined
into
on
campus.
We
will
have
a
use
permit.
So
all
future
work
here
will
have
to
go
through
the
public
process
and
we
will
have
to
do
amendments.
N
C
M
N
We
have
not
structured
an
additional
floor
on
that.
However,
the
way
this
garage
is
structured
is
half
of
it
is
flat
and
then
the
other
half
is
around.
So
there
are
spaces
that
could
could
be
used
in
the
garage
there.
N
M
N
H
N
But
we
don't
know
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
with
these.
They
have
a
building
there
and
if
they
fully
occupied
that
building,
they
would
need,
but
they
are
not
fully
occupying.
A
It,
but
is
the
stand
of
your
presentation,
can
be
opened
up
to
them.
Okay,
cool
yeah,
yeah
I
can
hit
this
up,
so
Melissa
will
start
with
you
virtually
was
there
anything
you
wanted
to
add,
and
we
just
came
today
or
any
questions
you
had.
K
A
little
bit
but
not
much
I
I,
do
think.
I
share
some
of
the
concerns
expressed
about
green
space,
but
I
do
understand
the
limitations,
so
I
think
people
can
speak
more
eloquently
to
that.
Probably
more
than
I
can
but
I
just
kind
of
generally
also
a
little
bit
concerned
about
that.
F
A
F
A
Right,
okay,
but
I
think
my
first
question
then,
for
you
guys
really
is
on
how
we
can
get
that
strong
language
into
the
plan
right
now
to
promote
as
much
occasional
Green
Space
in
this
development
as
possible,
I
think
as
a
Burlington
County
property.
We
really
want
to
demonstrate
that
we're
maximizing
get
out
of
this.
We
will
write
this
in
our
letter
as
well,
but
would
love
to
hear
about
the
commitments
that
are
being
made
holistically,
Beyond,
just
the
fields
planting
this
great
tree,
whatever
they
called
baths.
N
N
You
know
the
board
to
follow
through
with
that
again
until
it's
in
a
CIP,
it
doesn't
exist
for
design
construction
facility,
but
they
made
that
commitment.
The
current
the
board
at
that
time
made
that
commitment
to
encourage
the
board
to
follow
through
with
to
talk
about
to
you
know,
reduce
this.
We
did.
If
you
look
at
the
first
slide
of
that
presentation,
the
board
actually
up
front
did
did
make
a
limit
on
the
size
of
how
many
students
would
be
on
campus.
Yes,.
A
Okay,
nice,
this
all
right.
There
you
go
and
then
I
think
my
one
other
comment
for
our
commission
is,
since
we.
A
On
this
item,
I
would
encourage
that,
if
you're
interested
in
the
world
committee
I
think
one
other
point
that
perhaps
we
can
put
a
point
of
view
on
here
is
what
we
would
like
to
see
with
the
potential
new
development
project
that
isn't
yet
budgeted
for
the
npca
building.
Right.
N
N
A
You
because
I
think
that
it's
clear
that
they'll
go
about
like
field
use
and
stuff
like
that.
But
if
we
want
to
be
more
creative
and
thinking
about,
perhaps
an
excuse
possibility
or
can
make
an
argument
away
from
traditional
field
use
to
public
open
space.
We
can
try
and
craft
an
argument
there
in
our
letter
on
this
project.
H
N
D
F
A
N
N
F
N
N
A
N
A
Last
year,
insurgent
yeah
there.
It
is
right
there,
yeah.
F
A
E
N
H
H
Most
of
the
Green
Space
now
is
open.
There's
not
much
tree
canopy
exercise
overall
edges
based
on
the
the
plans
here
it
seems
hard
to
imagine
you
know
it
seems.
A
E
G
E
Interested
in
the
total
tree
canopy
cover
on
the
campus
Because.
This
campus
is
in
one
of
the
10
Equity
neighborhoods
that
ask
among
the
lowest
so
I'd
like
to
know
if
the
tree
canopy
cover
of
the
campus.
F
N
Yeah
I
I
again
we'll
calculate
that
I,
don't
know
whether
it's
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
can
say
that
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
more
Street
trees
than
there
currently
are.
There
are
a
lot
more
trees
being
planned
at
seventh
at
Walter,
Reed
and
again
at
the
at
the
Highland
Street
and.
A
H
P
F
G
H
Losing
due
to
the
new
ACC
building,
do
you
know
how
much
money
is
being
spent
on
that,
and
when
do
you
expect
that
buildings
be
demolished
if.
G
N
N
Is
which
is
the
largest
portion
of
dollars
right,
but
we've
told
the
vendor
that
we
plan
on
being
able
to
being
installed
generally,
you
would
set
it
in
concrete.
They
said
they
can
put
sleeves
around
the
structure,
so
that
doesn't
mean
people
damage
things
and
that
replace
things,
but
the
gold
would
be.
H
Okay,
okay
and
then
my
file
was
it's
about
the
the
view.
The
three
so
I
know.
Chuck
we've
talked
about
this
back
of
the
the
baseball
Community
is
going
to
be
losing
a
well
used,
but
poorly
maintained
Fields
earlier
than
we
expected.
That's
a
separate
issue
which
I
won't
bring
up
today,
but
I
don't
see
any
evidence
that
number
three
is
going
to
be
available
for
for
baseball,
I
mean
all
the
designs.
H
I
know
they're,
not
final
designs,
but
there's
nothing
that
it
shows
me
that
that
could
be
used
as
a
baseball
field
and
I'm
going
to
be
sending
you
ideas
and
information
about
how
that
can
happen.
But
I
just
want
to
relate
that
that,
given
that
we're
losing
this
field-
and
the
fact
that
is
mpsa
is
sticking
down,
there
could
be
another
soccer
field
put
in
there
again
we're
losing
a
Diamond
fields,
well
used.
A
E
F
A
A
When
the
building
comes
down,
it
opens
up
a
can
of
worms
of
possibilities,
and
we
want
to
maximize
obviously
that
space
continually
being
used
for
Green
Space.
So
in
our
letter
we
propose
what
we
think:
phasing
should
be,
including
perhaps
replacing
the
baseball
field
and
encouraged
more
open
public
space.
That
might
be
a
way
for
us
to
insert
our
opinion
before
this
plan
gets
written
into
action
and
their
opportunities.
A
M
M
Incredibly
heavily
used,
looks
terrific.
Both
it's
I,
think
really
successful
and
I
think
I'd
love
to
see
that
as
the
template
for
everything
that
school
system
does
from
now
on
parking
is
parking.
Is
you
know
a
big
negative
for
for
everything
we're
trying
to
do
with
Parkland,
and
here
we
have
an
opportunity
to
put
it
on
the
bridge.
A
Hear
three
great
points
immediately
from
Jill
getting
tree
canopy
to
be
prioritized
in
this
plan,
specifically
in
this
campus
plan,
two
providing
some
sort
of
road
map
for
the
phasing
of
the
mpsa
building,
including
a
ballpark,
baseball
diamond
Park
and
encouraging
more
green
space,
and
then
third,
looking
at
using
lover,
run
as
a
blueprint
for
what
potential
can
be
done
with
static
garage
space.
It
went
to
a
roof
up
there,
yeah.
H
I
have
a
few
questions.
You
don't
have
any
sense
of
about
how
much
impervative
surface
there
is
now
on
the
site.
Now
we're.
F
H
Doing
that
right,
you
mentioned
the.
F
H
Can
you
pointed
that
out?
Is
that
anticipated
to
be
available
for
public
use?
Yes,
that's
on
the
third
floor.
Does
EPS
actually
expect
to
give
the
public
real
use
of
that,
because
they're
often
yeah,
which
is
one.
H
They
did
these
couple
things.
You
know
one
big
difference,
and
what
this
is
is
that
parking
garage
is
not
objective
and
so
the
access
to
the
roof
or
she's
real
simple.
It's
a
street
level,
whereas
this
one
it
would
be.
How
many
stories
is
it
worked,
so
that
would
be
a
fifth
Story,
so
unless
they
were
considering.
M
I
mean
we're
facing
this
really
ugly
and
underutilized
parking
garage
fifth
floor.
Roof
could
be
a
great
place
for
pickleball
courts.
Yeah.
M
N
We
are
essentially,
you
know.
We
we
try
to
use
our
rooftops
wherever
possible,
to
make
them
available
for
solar.
We
don't
discover
is
the
only
solar
we
own.
Everything
else
is
a
power
purchasing
agreement,
so
we
would
offer
this
to
a
company
that
would
do
it
as
a
power
purchasing
agreement.
The
one
issue
with
this
building
is
number
one
is
again
safe
space
we've
compacted.
N
It
went
up
not
out,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
special
systems:
auto
body,
painting,
Auto,
Body,
Auto,
Tech
program,
culinary
programs,
animal
Sciences,
there's
a
lot
of
ventilation
requirements
so
that
if
you
looked
at
the
renderings
you'll
see
that
there's
lots
of
equipment
on
the
roof,
and
we
do
have.
N
One
thing
we
did
actually
have
a
Sawtooth
roof
music
area
which
we've
gone
to,
is
just
a
single
slope
so
that
that
could
actually
be
good.
So
we
would
like
to
see
that
happen,
but
at
this
point
you
know
it
would
be
a
power
purchasing
agreement.
It
would
not
be
part
of
the
project
is
because
there's
billions
of
dollars
of
the
current
building
right,
that
is,
that
is
actually
a
possibility.
We
probably
want
to
see
how
we're
going
to
reduce
the
building.
N
We're
going
to
make
penetrations,
don't
want
to
add
Millions
to
the
project
by
not
having
ventilation
issue
or
having
been
lunch
having
constructed,
but
that
has
a
very
large
clear
roof
at
this
point
in
time
and
they
probably
could
use
a
recoating
on
it
and
have
to
have
rooms
that
are
relatively
new
or
have
a
20-year
25-year
warranty
on
it
considered.
So,
essentially,
our
roofs
that
get
re-roofed.
M
A
I
agree,
I,
agree,
Peter
totally
totally
agree.
We
can
definitely
mention
both
as
an
option
but
I
push
for
rooftop
garden.
As
our
commissioner
do
you
guys
have
a
date
that
this
is
going
I'm
thinking
about
our
letter?
Do
you
guys
have
a
date
that
this
is
going
to
the
commission
already
in
the
agenda
all
right
to
the
County
Board.
N
B
N
No,
it
is
not
if.
E
N
Are
looking
at
a
lot
of
election
operations,
but
it's
gotten
at
zero
The
Net
Zero?
Is
you
have
to
have
a
low
eui,
find
it
very
difficult
without
a
geothermal
without.
M
N
M
Seen
I
mean
obviously,
would
help
us
everybody
the
whole
County
too,
to
know
what
having
I
don't
know,
but
that
maybe
like.
M
A
Because
we're
like
at
a
little
over
three
okay,
we
are
way
over
toes.
Please.
H
So
one
of
the
things
I
know:
DPR
staff
have
been
on
the
the
group.
That's
working
on
this
and,
from
my
experience
in
I,
also
serve
on
the
fact
that
social
advisor
commission
Council
for
APS
and
I
don't
feel
that
DPR
staff
has
have
been
doing
their
job
very
effectively
because
a
lot
of
things
have
been
coming
out
of
this.
It
didn't
didn't
come
to
us,
we
didn't.
H
We
didn't
we're
just
hearing,
obviously
getting
now
and,
for
example,
the
baseball
fields,
it's
being,
it
could
have
been
even
now
as
being
being
taken
out
of
commission
as
June
5th,
which
is
before
the
end
of
the
baseball
season,
is
over
and
there's
been
no
word.
That's
gotten
out
to.
H
P
Hello,
so
I'm
yeah,
so
I
was
a
staff
member
on
it.
We
just
found
out
gosh
I
believe
it
was
the
end
of
last
week
that
that
feel
was
coming
out
of
that.
That
field
was
coming
out
of
use
and
right
now
our
staff
is
looking
into
how
to
you
know,
find
other
opportunities
for
the
the
youth
leagues
that
are
using
that
field.
Currently
so
again,
you
know
we
just
recently
found
out
about
that
field.
Coming
offline.
A
A
A
A
A
F
A
Is
actually
a
great
Segway,
so
our
second
presentation
of
the
evening,
so
we're
not
late
on
time,
but
second
presentation
of
the
day
is
on
by
Ophelia
in
Arlington
and
I
see
we
have
our
guest
speakers
virtually
great
Laura
and
Chris.
Thank
you
yes,
I'll
hand
it
over
to
you.
We
are
big
biophilia
enthusiasts
here,
so
excited
to
hear
about
your
presentation
today.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you
and
we
are
delighted
to
be
at
the
the
Park
and
Recreation
Commission
meeting
and
it's
been
a
number
of
years,
so
I
think
the
last
time
I
was
there
was
when
we
were
presenting
the
courthouse
vision
and
we
still
have
a
parking
lot,
so
we
always
have
more
work
to
do
so.
My
name
is
Chris
Kreider
and
I'm,
the
supervisor
of
the
Urban
Design
Team
and
we
are
part
of
the
planning
divisions,
but
we
we
support
interdepartmentally,
DPR
and
Des
transportation.
Q
We
also
work
to
educate
people
about
design
and
better
Urban
Design,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
I've
been
charged
with
is
supporting
the
biophilic
initiative.
I
I
do
that
with
Arena
classic
from
DPR,
and
she
and
I
actively
participate
in
the
network.
I
want
to
quickly
introduce
my
my
colleague,
Laura.
Take
it
away.
D
Hi
everybody
thank
you
for
having
us
so
I
work
with
Chris,
Kreider
and
also
in
the
Urban
Design
Team,
but
beyond
that
I
also
review
the
landscape
plans
for
a
site
plan,
special
site
plan
developments
and
use
permits
as
well
so
I
get
into
the
little
bit
of
a
finer
grain
detail
on
the
biophilics
biophilia
in
Arlington.
Q
Yeah,
so
Elora
is
going
to
advance
the
slides
and
I'm
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
an
introduction
and
then
she'll
she'll
sort
of
take
us
into
the
meat
of
the
matter.
Q
First
of
all,
Arlington
for
those
who
are
not
familiar,
we
became
part
of
the
biophilic
Cities
movement
so
to
speak,
and
in
2019
and
and
really
it's
about
in
our
resolution,
we're
making
a
commitment
to
be
becoming
and
continuing
to
be
a
biophilic
city
as
you'll
see,
there's
many
things
that
we've
been
doing
well
in
the
past
and
many
things
that
we
can
do
better.
Q
So
tonight
we're
going
to
sort
of
focus
on
a
little
bit
of
background,
but
then
also
particularly
with
site
plan
projects,
because
that's
where
we
see
the
greatest
amount
of
change
occurring
in
Arlington,
so
as
a
partner
City,
we're
a
member
of
a
network
next
slide
and
presently
I
believe
there's
26
cities,
and
we
have
boxed
out
that
we
have
a
number
of
regional
Partners
in
this
and
we
share
a
lot
of
information.
Q
The
purpose
of
the
biophilic
Cities
network
is
really
to
engage
in
best
practices
share
information
with
one
one
another
and
and
each
each
month
we
participate
on
a
call,
sometimes
it's
very
early
in
the
morning
for
our
our
folks
on
the
on
in
the
other
side
of
the
planet,
and
sometimes
it's
late
in
the
afternoon.
But
the
point
is
is
that
we
are
all
committed
to
to
doing
this.
This
goal
that
is
very
innate
in
human
nature,
and
that
is
a
connection
to
Nature
and
one
of
the
things
we.
Q
The
studies
will
show
that
that
there
is
an
important
role
that
nature
plays
in
our
livelihood
and
our
healthful
living,
and
so
we
we
certainly
embrace
the
The
Greener
aspects,
but
we
also
really
embrace
the
human
element.
Q
The
the
human
benefits
next
slide,
yeah,
so
part
of
our
commitment
to
buy
feely
is
really
looking
at
what
we're
called
five
Municipal
indicators,
and
these
are
required
as
members
of
the
biophilic
Cities
Network,
they're
they're,
broken
into
four
broad
categories:
biophilic
institutions,
planning
and
governance,
biophilic
engagements
participation
and
knowledge,
natural
conditions,
qualities
and
infrastructure,
and
finally,
human
health
and
well-being
factors.
So
it
really,
as
you
can
see,
it
really
touches
on
a
number
of
important
issues
and
just
taking
the
first
one.
For
example.
Q
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
those
biophilic
engagement
participates
in
knowledge
as
you'll
see
we're
working
very
hard
internally
to
increase
our
knowledge
around
biophilic
design,
and
hopefully
that
translates
into
our
working
with
the
community
and
finally,
you've
seen
a
tremendous
investment
from
the
county
and
green
infrastructure,
and-
and
this
is
both
an
important
investment
in
our
sort
of
economic
benefits,
of
preserving
our
investments,
but
also
replenishing
and
restoring
our
our
Urban
habitats.
Q
And
if
you
look
at
other
cities,
one
of
the
member
cities
Toronto,
they
have
a
very
extensive
Ravine
plan.
Looking
at
those
green
areas,
because
they're
they're
being
asked
to
do
a
lot
of
things.
So
as
we
look
at
that,
how
do
we
do
better
and
then?
Finally,
as
I've
mentioned-
probably
most
importantly,
we're
looking
for
ways
to
to
increase
access
for
everyone?
For
example,
our
affordable
housing
master
plan,
which
is
going
to
be
updated
soon,
does
not
talk
about
that
connection
in
nature
and
I.
Q
Think
if
there's
ever
a
demographic
that
could
benefit
it's
those
that
are,
you
know
in
less
economic,
beneficial
means
and
having
that
access
to
breed
spaces
and
I'm
sure
everybody
here
on
the
commission
appreciates
that
next
slide.
So
as
we
report
these
annually
to
the
board
we're
sort
of
making
sure
that
we
are
keeping
track.
So
what
have
we
been
doing
in
those
few
years?
Well,
we
we
started
out
with
a
biophilic
pop-up
event,
and
that
was
in
2016,
and
this
was
really
Community
activist-led.
Q
Q
Sometimes
so,
it
first
appeared
in
our
public
spaces
master
plan
as
a
recommendation
and
taking
that
as
a
lead,
we
explore
the
opportunity
of
warning
joining
the
biophilic
studies
Network
and
from
that
we
formed
an
interdepartmental
team
to
identify
those
Municipal
indicators
and
to
to
also
to
start
to
begin
to
to
implement
many
of
those
in
our
day-to-day
work.
Q
And
as
part
of
that,
we
hosted
the
the
this
biophilic
Arlington
Symposium,
which
was
an
internal
and
I,
think
we
had
about
over
150
staff
participating
virtually
during
the
middle
of
covet
over
two
week
period,
and
it
was
really
about
learning
from
each
other.
What
we're
already
doing
in
the
county
and
then
also
looking
at
peer
communities
and
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
do
attend
those
bcn
meetings
on
a
monthly
basis.
So,
in
terms
of
some
of
the
things
we're
doing
more
recently
is
Laura
and
I.
Q
In
the
Urban
Design
Team,
we
host
a
monthly
design
lunch.
Last
month
we
had
a
representative
from
Toronto
talking
about
their
green
cities,
initiative
and,
importantly
about
their
green
benefits
program
that
they
use
with
site
plans.
Q
It's
just
point
scoring
and
it's
not
as
it's
focused
on
energy,
but
even
more
focused
on
biodiversity
and
and
we're
really
looking
at
that,
as
is
perhaps
a
blueprint
for
expanding
some
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
see
in
the
sprc
process
which
we'll
talk
about
later,
but
as
you
see
too,
we've
we've
already
Incorporated
and
are
starting
to
incorporate
it
in
all
of
our
planning
documents,
and
some
of
those
are
highlighted.
So
the
next
slide.
Q
So
Laura
is
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
site,
plan,
design,
review
process
and
then
take
it
from
there
Laura.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
Chris,
so
yeah
I'm
going
to
talk
about
biophilic
implementation
in
relation
to
the
special
exception
site
plan
review,
so
I
know
you
guys
are
actively
involved
in
a
lot
of
public
review
of
public
spaces.
D
D
So
you
know,
Arlington
has
been
a
biophilic
community
for
some
time
now,
even
before
our
commitment
to
bcn.
This
is
mainly
because
the
people
who
live
and
govern
here-
but
you
know
before
we
join
the
network
before
my
time
at
the
county
projects,
have
been
built
and
meeting
some
of
these
14
patterns
of
biophilic
design
all
on
their
own
volition.
So
these
are.
These
are
projects
that
were
built
in
recent
years,
but
prior
to
our
commitment,
so
We've
obviously
had
a
vested
interest
in
a
long
time.
D
So,
whether
intentional
or
not
designers
have
been
into
you
know,
inspired
by
Nature
since
the
beginning
of
time.
So
again,
whether
intentional
or
unintentional,
we
are
making
changes
at
various
scales
that
are
hopefully
furthering
our
commitment
to
this
biophilic
place
Arlington.
So,
in
this
presentation,
we're
mainly
going
to
speak
to
the
intentional
biophilic
designs
in
Arlington
throughout
the
4.1
site
plan
processes
and
really
the
Urban
Design
team's
role
in
that
work.
So
we
can
also
touch
on
and
answer
some
questions
about.
D
Admin
changes
and
buy
right,
buy
right
processes
as
well,
if
you'd
like
to
get
into
that
towards
the
end
of
the
presentation.
So
we,
the
Urban
Design
Team,
see
plans
throughout
every
stage
of
the
site
plan
review
process.
From
the
moment
the
applications
are
submitted
and
cell
County
board
approval.
D
So
Chris
and
I
also
have
the
Good
Fortune
to
see
these
plans
post
County
board
approval
through
landscape
plan
and
facade
submissions.
Just
just
to
give
you
some
background
on
what
we
do.
We
also
follow
the
plans
through
post
construction
and
inspection,
and
then
you
know,
the
owners
of
these
projects
are
obligated
to
maintain
and
uphold
the
approved
designs
throughout
the
life
of
the
site
plan.
So
I
can
truly
say
that
these
plans
never
leave
our
desks
and
any
changes
to
the
approved
plans
require
administrative
changes
and
further
staff
review.
D
So
we
are
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
you
know
what
we
see
and
what
questions
we
ask
as
as
we
go
through
this
process,.
D
So,
applicants
have
the
option
of
submitting
a
conceptual
site
plan
for
internal
staff
review
prior
to
the
formal
application,
so
this
is
not
required,
but
it
does
give
the
applicant
an
initial
review
by
planners
to
highlight
major
policy
concerns,
give
an
overview
of
County
initiatives
related
to
their
site
and
development.
So
this
is
just
some
some
clips
of
some
concept
plans
that
we've
seen,
but
they
you
know
these
are
very
conceptual,
so
the
plans
are
submitted
at
varying
levels
of
plan
detail.
D
So,
after
that,
we
see
what
you
see
so,
along
the
way
we
see.
We
see
we
see
along
every
step
of
the
way,
so
I'm,
just
showing
this
plan
to
kind
of,
highlight
the
progress
and
highlight
that
engagement
matters.
So
there's
many
conflicting
concerns
and
a
lot
of
stakeholders
during
the
sprc
process
and
Designs
can
change
dramatically
from
the
feedback
that
staff
in
the
community
give
during
these
design
reviews.
D
So
we're
seeing
the
same
imagery
that
you're,
seeing
and
our
job
is
from
a
policy
perspective
is
to
make
sure
these
projects
are
meeting
the
minimum
requirements
of
the
site.
Everything
from
the
sector
plan
guidance
to
streetscape
requirements,
but
our
job,
more
broadly
as
Urban
designers,
is
to
sort
of
scale
our
views
throughout
the
design
process
and
then
help
the
applicants
make
the
best
design
decisions
for
the
public.
So,
as
we
all
know,
biophilic
design
can
be
very
subjective,
so
it
can
be
hard
to
quantify
quantify
at
a
conceptual
level.
D
It's
not
the
number
of
bike
racks
that
are
provided
on
site,
it's
much
easier
to
sort
of
quantify
the
benefits
of
biophilic
Design
After
spaces
are
built
and
established
and
experienced
in
real
life,
and
it
requires
a
commitment
to
the
applicant
to
not
only
design
these
spaces
but
to
construct
them
to
maintain
them
and
then
to
care
for
the
facilities
and
the
materials
over
time.
So
we
ask
a
lot
of
our
public
and
private
spaces
and
it
requires
this
stewardship
of
these
ideas
in
the
long
term.
D
So,
as
you
all
know,
I'm
sure
you've
all
seen
these
we've
been
gifted
these
14
patterns
of
biophilic
design,
and
these
are
the
concepts
that
staff
is
actively
wrapping
their
brains
around
all
the
time
you
know
given,
given
these
Concepts
on
a
blank
slate.
D
You
know
they
may
be
a
little
easier
to
realize,
given
them
on
a
development
site.
These
concepts
are
subject
to
many
constraints,
so
we
hear
more
generic
language.
We
see
more
generic
imagery
and
a
lot
of
what
we
find
is
that
these
concepts
are
squeezed
into
spaces
that
are
serving
multiple
functions.
So
just
like
the
things
that
you
guys
were
talking
about
today
with
APS,
so
you
know
we
ask
a
lot
of
our
streetscapes,
meaning
that
face
of
building
tobacco
curb
and
sometimes
our
standards
can
be
constricting.
D
So
I'm
just
going
to
pick
one
small
thing
that
I
know
I
speak
to
a
lot.
Anybody
who
knows
me
knows
I
speak
to
this
one,
a
lot
but
green
wall
elements.
So
we
are
seeing
more
and
more
of
these
on
incoming
plans
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
how
they
are
interpreted
and
sort
of
the
biobolic
design
realm.
So
this
it's
important
as
it
relates
to
what
we
see
and
what
we
get
and
all
the
steps
in
between
the
site
plan
process
and
the
long-term
success
after
build
out.
D
So
like
we're
looking
at
the
image
on
the
left,
we
see
these.
We
see
these
sort
of
creepy
crawly
hanging
things
off
of
the
rooftops.
We
see
the
carpeted
green
Walls
on
buildings,
they're
very
painterly,
renderings,
they're,
sort
of
they're
showing
what
we
all
hope
for
in
as
the
building
matures
and
some
of
the
challenge
that
we're
sort
of
hit
with
right
off
the
bat
are
that
the
words
and
imagery
are
sort
of
lacking
in
a
detail
or
an
industry
definition.
D
So
we
all
may
be
looking
at
the
same
image,
but
talking
about
different
things
and
thus
getting
a
very
different
build
product.
So
these
are
some
of
the
words
and
labels
that
we
see
on
plans.
So
these-
and
these
are
the
words
that
you've
seen
on
the
plans
too.
So
by
the
Macy's,
I'm
not
sure
what
they
were
calling
this
element
on
the
top
of
the
building,
but
these
other.
D
These
other
buildings
were
saying
you
know
vertical
green
elements,
green
wall,
living
wall,
biophilic
elements,
but
not
being
very
specific
about
what
exactly
that
construction
looks
like
and
what
what
what
exactly
they're
talking
about.
So
unless
we
know
what
questions
to
ask,
we
might
not
all
be
getting
what
we
envisioned
from
some
of
these
renderings.
So
we
need
to
ask
the
applicants
to
be
very
specific
about
what
we
can
expect
over
time,
such
as
can
native
plant
material
even
grow
vertically,
as
it's
depicted
in
some
of
these
images.
D
So
what
we
have
seen
mostly
in
Arlington,
thus
far
has
been
the
ground-based
system
and
I
love
this
image,
this
little
graphic
Vincent
from
urban
forestry
found
it
and
I
will
give
credit
to
it
if
we
ever
figure
out
who
gave
it
to
us,
but
it
is
it's
great
to
sort
of
show
these
these
different
systems.
Mostly,
we
see
these
ground-based
systems
which
is
cabling
or
trellises
on
the
side
of
a
building
and
then
plant
material
at
the
base.
D
We
are
starting,
though,
to
see
more
and
more
of
these
wall
based
systems,
which
is
the
one
on
the
far
right.
These
are
very,
very
intensive.
They
have
irrigation
and
integrated,
they
have
lighting
integrated.
They
have
a
vertical
planting
media,
so
they're
they're,
very
they're,
expensive,
but
they're
very
intensive,
and
they
look.
They
look
like
what
the
rendering
is
showing
we
rarely
do.
We
see
the
trough
systems.
Those
are
a
little
bit
more
like
window
wells.
Sometimes
we
see
them
on
parking
garages,
but
these
are
very
different
costs.
D
Very
different
construction
needs
associated
with
them
and
so
understanding
the
difference
here
is
important.
So
those
are
the
questions
that
we're
kind
of
asking
so
yeah.
You
may
think
that
you're
getting
the
image
on
the
left
and
you
may
be
getting
the
image
on
the
right.
So
there
are
always
what
I
like
to
say
is:
there's
always
finer
grain
details
that
we
get
into
post
4.1
approval.
D
We
we
are
looking
at
civil
plans,
landscape
plans,
facade
reviews
where
we're
really
really
getting
into
how
these
things
are
construction,
but
we
have
a
responsibility
to
ask
the
infrastructure
what
infrastructure
is
needed
to
achieve.
What's
in
these
renderings,
you
know
whether
that's
soil
volume,
irrigation
the
orientation
to
the
sun,
proximity
to
utilities
and
I
know
you
guys
are
all
asking
these
questions,
because
I
heard
them
all
tonight
too.
D
Q
And
I
think
what
what
we're
seeing
is
that
the
the
marketplace
is
already
starting
to
deliver
some,
these
biophilic
elements
and
and
just
to
sort
of
take
you
from
left
to
right,
while
the
focus
is
on
bird
friendly,
glass,
I
think
it's
also
part
of
sort
of
the
the
biophilic
scope
and
the
the
far
left
image
is
from
the
Aquatic
Center,
the
one
right
next
to
that
is
from
the
Springs.
Q
It's
an
affordable
housing
project
and
finally,
the
one
at
the
bottom
is
actually
a
fritted
glass
that
APS
used
at
the
education
center.
Well.
So
in
that
case,
it's
actually
serving
two
purposes.
It's
helping
to
reduce
the
energy
production
as
well
as
providing
that
that
patterning,
that
birds
need
and
in
terms
of
some
of
the
other
elements
that
we
seek
in
terms
of
biophilic
response,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
analogs
and
the
the
picture
in
the
the
bottom
there
just
below
the
word.
Analog
is
actually
from
the
port.
From
your
your
space.
Q
There
there'll
be
some
more
of
this
type
of
glass,
but
Lynn
Myers
was
hired
as
a
public.
She
did
the
public
art
pieces
if
it
introduces
this
frosted
glass
and
it's
all
referencing,
that
to
the
right
of
that
you'll
see
the
the
newly
poured
bridge
at
West,
Libra
bridge,
that
is
connecting
Alexandria
and
Arlington.
Q
So
this
was
just
poured
in
the
last
week
and
the
metaphor
here
is
really
picking
up
on
the
flow
of
water
through
the
river
and
the
bubbles
that
it
generates
over
it,
as
it
hits
the
Rocks
just
above
that,
the
bridge
design
that
we're
working
on
for
the
the
Mount
Vernon
again
Arlington,
Road
Ridge
bridge,
is
is
once
again
and
this
one
is
inspired
by
the
the
tales
of
a
of
a
red
tail
hawk
but
I'm.
Q
Sorry,
the
the
feathers
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
the
drawing
the
bottom
half
is
actually
this
formed
concrete,
but
the
upper
half
would
be
a
grill.
So
it's
really
off.
You
know
opportunities
where
there
are
places
where
a
lot
of
visibility
to
reconnect
people,
both,
sometimes
literally
but
also
more
figuratively,
and
finally,
the
image
on
the
right
and
Laura's
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this
project.
We're
starting
to
see
where
the
the
the
developers
are.
Q
You
know
trying
to
create
these
spaces
for
their
tenants,
and
we're
really
excited
to
see
some
of
these
examples,
because
I
think
they
represent
how
even
in
an
urban
environment
we're
we're
really
trying
to
make
that
connection
to
Nature
and
recognizing
that
both
from
its
economic
and
environmental
benefits,
but
also
you
know
just
human
quality
benefits
next
slide.
So
one
thing
I
did
want
to
feature
as
Laura
mentioned.
Q
We
do
these
these
inspections
and
we
recently
actually
I
think
Laura,
probably
made
seven
or
eight
trips
to
the
Amazon
hq2
Project
at
Metropolitan
Park,
but
you'll
start
to
see
that
that
the
corporate
America
is
really
starting
to
embrace
this.
The
image
in
the
upper
in
the
middle
is
actually
on
an
upper
level.
Floor,
I
think
it's
like
the
13th
or
14th
floor
and
what
they're
doing
is
they're
they're,
putting
plants
that
are
native
to
the
shenandoahs
because
they
operate
well.
Q
It's
just
high
wind
sort
of
high
elevation
exposed
environment,
so
creating
those
types
of
spaces
and
places
is
becoming
part
of
creating
a
sense
of
opportunities
for
talk
or
meetings
or
reflection
and
then
they're
even
introducing
it.
As
you
see
in
the
upper
right
image,
these
are
benches
in
the
lobby
area
that
will
ultimately
house
plants
taking
on
these
organic
anthropomorphic
forms
and
then,
of
course,
in
the
center
and
the
bottom
that
you
know.
Q
This
is
sort
of
the
early
stages
of
the
transformation
of
Matt
Park,
which
is
probably
one
of
the
most
biophilically
designed
spaces
I've
ever
seen,
and
really
look
forward
to
experiencing
that
in
the
coming
years.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
Laura
sort
of
talk
through
one
of
the
examples
we
just
mentioned.
D
Yes,
so
I'm
gonna
actually
go
a
little
bit
in
Reverse,
so
this
is
the
sir,
and
if
you
haven't
been
down
there,
I
definitely
encourage
it.
There's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
great
furnishings
and
elements
there
that
are
using
warm
natural
products.
So
this
was
this
is
an
interesting
one
because
it
was
a
little
bit
outside
of
the
4.1
process,
so
this
actually
came
into
us
in
2020
as
an
administrative
change
to
the
original
approved
design
in
2007..
D
So
what
I
kind
of
wanted
to
speak
to
this
is
that
this
is
what-
and
this
might
be
a
little
hard
to
see.
But
this
is
what
the
applicant
could
have
built.
It's
sort
of
it's
it's
not
very
illustrative
I!
Wasn't
here
in
2007,
I,
don't
know
what
the
process
looked
like,
but
you
know
it's
showing
some
of
the
plans
are
showing
trees
and
containers.
There's
not
a
lot
of
detail
on
what
they're
providing
but
on
their
own
volition.
D
So
they
could
have
very
well
built
this,
but
on
volition,
they
came
in
with
an
administrative
change
to
really
up
the
ante
right,
like
they're,
doing
they're
doing
something
better
for
the
public
they're
doing
something
better
for
their
tenants
like,
like
Chris,
had
said
so.
This
is
a
really
interesting
project.
They
are
using
these
intensive
green
Walls,
underneath
the
the
Breezeway
here
and
outside
in
their
front
entrance,
and
they
look
great
in
winter
too.
D
Just
a
just
a
note,
so
you
know
what
can
we
be
asking
that
helps
that
helps
us
realize
these
14
patterns
of
design
in
construction
in
the
4.1
process?
How
can
we
interpret
these
big
Concepts
on
papers?
D
This
is
kind
of
what
we
grapple
with
to
try
to
get
that
those
that
biophilia
from
out
here
to
sort
of
built
and
tangible-
and
these
are
these-
are
just
some
ideas
that
kind
of
go
through
my
mind
every
day
when
when
I'm
reviewing
plants,
so
you
know
this
visual
connection,
non-visible
connection
to
Nature,
you
guys
had
already
brought
up
in
the
aps
project
that
that
using
rooftops.
So
some
of
the
questions
that
we
can
ask
early
on
in
the
4.1
process
is
soil
volume.
D
So
maybe
we
don't
know
what
the
plants
are
yet,
maybe
we
don't
know
what
how
the
space
is
totally
going
to
be
occupied
yet,
but
if
we
know
that
the
space
is
on
the
second
or
third
floor,
maybe
we
can
ask
for
more
infrastructure
to
support
more
soil
so
that
we
can
get
more
grasses
more
pollinators,
something
else
up
there,
whereas
if
we
get
through
the
4.1
process-
and
we
haven't
really
defined
that
that
structure
is
needed
for
that
level
of
soil,
then
did
we
miss
an
opportunity,
because
at
that
point,
that
cost
could
be
through
the
roof
to
sort
of
accommodate
that.
D
D
You
know
the
the
idea
of
water
water
feature
is
another
one.
We
always
want
this
presence
of
water,
but
we,
you
know,
we
we
go
back
and
forth
with
the
health
department
on
how
how
we
can
make
that
a
design
element
not
have
it
be
accessible,
have
it
be
accessible
whatever
that
entails
also
a
cost
related
to
that,
and
what
does
it
look
like
in
the
winter
time?
So
is
it
biophilic
in
the
winter
when
the
water's
not
running?
D
So
these
are
just
some
questions
and
ideas
that
that
we
have
so
moving
forward.
How
are
we
doing
in
our
in
our
design,
biophilic
design
initiative?
So
Chris
has
already
touched
on
some
of
these.
Some
of
these
items
on
the
left
here,
the
things
that
we're
doing
currently
and
what's
on
the
horizon,
so
we
are
meeting
with
effort
and
the
forestry
natural
Resources
Commission
next
month,
so
that
we're
going
to
take
this,
this
presentation
to
them
just
to
kind
of
keep
them
updated
in
the
mix.
D
But
just
so
you
know,
I
know
that
the
the
the
fnrp
is
coming
out
and
there
are
some.
There
are
some
implementation
items
in
there
related
to
Native
Plant
requirements
and
the
zoning
ordinance.
So
those
are
things
that
might
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
get
implemented,
but
they're
on
our
radar
there's
something
there
that
that
we
we
hear
the
public.
We
understand
it's
important
and
we're
moving
forward
with
them
and
then
the
other
big
one
is
the
biophilic
design
narrative.
D
So
that's
where
we
are
now
and
we
just
keep
moving
forward.
Hopefully
so
I'm
really
grateful
that
you
guys
let
us
come
and
and
and
present
and
sort
of
speak
to
to
what
we
do
every
day,
and
we
appreciate
what
you
guys
do
every
day.
So
I
don't
know
if
Chris
has
any
other
notes,
he
would
like
to
say,
but
we
are,
we
would
love
to
open
up
this
discussion
and
hear
hear
your
thoughts.
A
A
Totally
and
we
want
to
have
more
of
these
sprc101-
this
is
the
bread
and
butter
of
how
we
can
be
affected
and
so
just
a
reminder
that
the
presentation
will
be
available
online
for
us
to
access
and
reference
when
we
go
to
sbrcs
ourselves.
But
let's
the
burner
like
as
a
repeat:
okay,
I'm
sure
we
have
questions
so
please
raise
your
hand.
Oh
I'm.
Sorry,
let's
start
with
Melissa
on
the.
K
Phone
first,
yes,
thank
you.
Wonderful
presentation,
I,
really
appreciated
how
yeah
the
the
wall
plants
always
bothered
me
when
I
see
them
on
these
renderings,
because
I'm
on
the
Boston,
Macy's,
sprc
and
I,
asked
about
that
and
they're
like
yeah.
We
don't
have
a
plant
list
yet
we'll
get
you
that
plant
list
I'm
like
when.
So
when
you're
constantly
told
we
don't
have
the
plant
list
yet
do
you
have
a
like
good
list
of
plants?
D
So
that's
a
good
question
that
comes
up
a
lot
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
little
tricky
when
it
comes
down
to
very
specific
species,
only
because
sometimes
three
years
from
now,
some
of
that
stuff
isn't
available.
D
So
we
always
reference
plant
Nova
natives,
that's
our
go-to
for
for
all
of
our
applicants
and
the
way
I
can
even
put
the
website
in
the
chat
too.
They
have.
They
have
different
categories
based
on
what
you're
looking
for.
So
if
it's
Wetland
environment,
if
it's
climbing
screening,
Evergreen
and
it's
all
Native
and
and
native
to
this
region.
So
that's
our
go-to
I.
A
K
You
for
that
no
just
say
yes,
this
really
great
presentation
and
I
will
definitely
look
up
this
again
after
for
more
resources,.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
doing
this.
We
are
quite
challenged
with
securing
as
much
green
space
as
we
can
in
Arlington
and
we're
not
making
any
new
ground
in
Arlington
and
the
only
way
we're
going
to
get
it
is
through
site
development
plans
and
the
plan
reviews.
It's
a
real
challenge,
though,
to
come
up
with
what
should
the
what
is
a
biophilic
lens?
How
do
we
interject
goes
through
this
too?
C
Do
we
have
a
lens
that
we
can
use
to
focus
and
apply
to
these
site
plans?
You
know
we
could
and
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
want
to
be
flippant
and
call
it
a
checklist,
but
we
certainly
need
a
solid
framework
that
we
can
all
understand
so
I'm
the
bio-friendly
bird
window,
guy,
okay,
so
I
kind
of
got
that
market,
but
there's
got
to
be
more
than
that
and
we
need
help
with
understanding
what
the
lens
should
be.
We've
got
these
14
principles
and
everybody
salutes
we're
done.
C
You
know
we
have
to
do
more
than
that,
but
we
don't
know
how
to
do
more
than
that,
because
we're
not
planning
an
engineer,
we're
citizen
body
that
makes
recommendations
doing
the
best
we
can.
So
if
we
had
some
clearer
guidelines
that
we
could
use
boy
I'd
sure
take
them
and
soil
volume
is
one
of
them
and
they
don't
have
to
be,
they
could
just
be
generalities.
General
suggestions
of
things
that
we
should
look
for
would
really
help.
Thank
you.
D
Sure
and
I
can
just
come
into
that
a
little
bit,
I
think
that,
from
from
what
I
see
and
I
was
in
the
private
sector
before
coming
to
Arlington
five
years
ago,
almost
five
years
ago,
so
I
understand
that.
There's
you
know
you,
you
want
something:
that's
like
very
quantifiable.
D
So
when
yeah,
when,
when,
when
you're
looking
at
like
furnishings
and
things
like
that
on
site,
like
you
want
it
yeah,
the
soil
volume
is
a
big
one.
I
think,
because
we
really
want
to
make
sure
they
have
the
infrastructure
from
the
go
to
be
able
to
make
these
things
viable
in
the
long
term.
E
Joe,
thank
you
so
much
for
this
presentation.
It's
very
helpful.
Can
you
hear
me
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
we,
along
with
two
other
commissions,
wrote
a
letter
to
the
County
Board
in
March
of
2022.,
pointing
out
the
need
for
some
change
in
process
that
would
enhance
the
ability
to
it's
Force.
E
If
you
will
the
biophilic
principles,
and
one
in
particular
came
up
for
me
last
just
this
month
when
I
asked
for
the
plant
species,
you
know,
can
you
please
give
us
a
plant
species
and
they
said
well
we'll
try,
but
you
know
we're
not
required
to
do
that
and
I
said
I
know
you're
not
required
to
do
that.
E
If
that
really
sticks
in
our
craw,
because
that
means
that
you
can
go
ahead
and
get
approval
and
then
a
construction
phase,
all
done
so
I
I
would
just
like
to
I'm
just
saying
this
to
direct
your
attention
to
that
letter
and
ask
your
help
and
generally,
it
sounds
like.
E
Maybe
this
narrative
that
talking
about
can
speak
to
some
of
these
issues,
but
the
more
that
can
be
done
to
change
the
process
to
and
our
public
ability
to
require
some
of
these
things
and
then
for
you
guys
to
be
able
to,
and
then
I'll
say
that
and
then
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
we
had
a
presentation
recently
about
noxious
plants
and,
as
an
aside,
somebody
said
in
Delaware.
E
Q
Laura,
could
you
back
up
two
slides
I?
Think,
let's
put
the
the
14
there
you
go
I
just
I
think
you
guys
are
on
the
right
track.
This
is
we
want
to
give
you
the
opportunity,
because
you
have
a
you
know.
You
have
a
very
important
role
in
this
conversation
with
the
developers
you
can
see.
You
can
ask
for
things
and
say
things
and
do
it
in
a
way
that
we
can't
so
the
more
that
we
can
help.
Q
You
give
you
the
tools,
the
better
I
think
the
conversation
can
ultimately
be
and
and
what
we're
looking
at
is,
as
Laura
mentioned,
is
we're
going
to
ask
the
developers
to
weigh
in
on
all
14
of
these
and
and
we
really
don't
want
sort
of
a
checklist
from
them.
You
know,
and
we've
all
been
in
these
meetings
lately,
where
they
they
talk
about
a
street
tree
as
if
it's
biophilic
and
it's
not
right
now,
maybe
three
trees
together
and.
Q
Now
now
we
could
be
talking
right.
So,
let's,
let's
call
what
call
it
is
what
it
is
right.
That's
a
street
tree
that
is
not
biophilic
but
I'm
think
using
this
list,
so
they
can
start
with
that
and
have
that
conversation
and
as
the
plan
evolves,
they
they,
you
know,
start
to
refine
where
they
are
going
to
do
it,
and
why
and
I
think
the
stronger
that
connection.
Q
But
the
critical
part
of
this
is
when
it
comes
to
the
sprc
is,
is
as
they
introduce
their
sort
of
biophilic
response.
Is
that
you're
asking
the
kind
of
questions
that
Laura
is
asking
right
and
and
that
we
that
we
really
drill
down,
because
it's
not
that
we're
cynical?
Maybe,
but
this
is
a
transaction
for
them
right.
Q
Q
They
see
that
they're
future
residents
would
love
to
be
more
in
nature,
so
they're
responding
to
the
marketplace,
but
oftentimes
they're
just
responding
with
a
pretty
drawing,
and
it's
not
enough,
and
so
that's
where
really
that
due
diligence
that
we,
together
with
the
community,
need
to
do
to
make
sure
that
they
deliver
or
they
just
take
them
off
the
drawings
and
we've
had
some
projects
where
you
said
you
are
you
really
going
to
plant
balconies
with
plants?
Well,
it's
Apartments.
Q
We
can't
maintain
it
and
stop
showing
them
to
the
public,
because
it's
not
it's
not
representative
of
how
that
building
will
be.
But
on
a
positive
note,
you
know,
as
I
said
earlier,
we're
already
seeing
the
marketplace
to
respond.
It's
it's
in
Arlington
is
in
a
great
position
to
really
press
forward,
but
it's
going
to
take
your
support,
so
I
I,
you
know
wanted
to
ask
the
folks
in
the
room.
Q
What
are
the
things
that
you
were
thinking
that
we
maybe
didn't
ask
that
we
could
be
asking
or
that
you
could
be
asking
any
thoughts
from
from
the
group
about.
You
know
how
how
you
could
assist
in
this
conversation.
O
Something
so
I
I
live
in
the
Meridian
Courthouse
neighborhood
I
live
in
a
multi-family
building,
I've
been
in
all
these
sprc
meetings
for
all
the
developments
around
here,
as
well
as
the
lrpc
meeting
Club
studies
and
all
of
that
and
approaching
those
conversations
as
a
member
of
the
PRC
as
much
as
a
resident
disabled
does
not
have
a
yard
does
not
have
access
to
recreational
space
and
thinking
about
you
know
what
is
what
is
biophilia
mean
for
me
as
a
fairly
representative
member
of
the
growing
demographic
in
Arlington,
and
you
know,
there's
a
difference
between.
O
O
So
thinking
about
the
ways
that
like
biophilia,
can
exist,
but
also
be
something
that
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
people
running
errands
can
engage
with
it.
You
know
whether
that's
a
sensory
experience
by
touching
or
smelling
or
I
mean
you
know.
Edible
biophilia
biophilic
design
is
like
my
goal.
You
know
like
fruit,
trees
and
stuff.
I
know
that
that's
an
implementation
like
things
of
that
nature,
I
think
There's
real
Platinum
standard
for
me
as
a
resident
in
this
community,
but
more
so
just
to
Echo
the
whatever
everyone
else
here
is
said.
O
Resources
to
be
able
to
advocate
for
these
things,
Arlington
doesn't
have
like
standardized
design
guidelines,
it's
circumstantial
and
based
on
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
that's
something
a
lot
of
people
struggle
with
coming
to
these
conversations
of
like
well.
O
A
All
over
the
place,
yeah
we'll
go
back
to
your
other
questions,
but
I
think
to
add
to
like
requests
that
we
have
I.
Think
one
thing
that's
come
up
a
lot
this
year
is
understanding
how
we
can
be
a
voice
in
advocating
for
trade-offs
between
different
solutions.
So
you've
provided
a
great
example
when
it
comes
to
on
building
trellises
or
whatever.
We
want
to
call
the
wall
Gardens,
but
we
also
see
it
when
it
comes
to
permeable
impermeable
Services.
A
We
also
see
it
when
it
comes
to
things
like
field
use
versus
open
public
space,
there's
all
kinds
of
trade-offs
that,
like
we
just
can't
be
informed
enough
to
talk
about
it
at
skrc
meeting
so
like
adding
that
to
a
robust
design.
Language
is
what
guidance
is
anyone
else
on
feedback
on?
What
else
do
you
need
for
I'm
going
to
kick
it
back
to
Sarah
for
other
questions.
O
D
O
Feel
is
the
public
involvement
ends
when
ever
yeah
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
space
for
engagement
in
that
project,
moving
forward
unless
you're
a
member
of
that
civic
association
or
a
resident-
and
it
really
struck
me
the
the
Clarendon
Commons,
the
outdoor
mall
they've,
recently
redeveloped
their
public
space
and
like
that,
came
to
us
as
sprsprc,
and
it
was
an
SRC
process
but
being
able
to
provide
the
feedback
of
like
oh
well.
O
This
part
isn't
working
and
we
can
tell
you
that
and
you
can
change
that
moving
forward
and
you
incorporate
that
into
the
redesign,
and
you
know
then
see
that
happen
like
it
would
be
great
to
have
that
type
of
space,
Also
for
other
types
of
development
or
privately
maintained
and
I
know.
That's
not
something
that
exists
yet,
but
that's
just
something
that
I've
been
thinking
about.
Like
you
know,
we
probably
know
faster
than
staff
when.
E
O
A
H
So
I
mean
this
whole
discussion
reminds
me
food.
How
language
is
used
to
make
things
seem
like
they're
different
than
what
they,
what
they
are,
it's
basically
re-washing.
What
we're
talking
about
here
is
preventing
re-washing
from
happening
on
these
site
plans
and
I
I.
One
thing
I
was
wondering
is:
is:
are
you
also
looking
to
I
hate
the
YouTuber
Force,
but
require
maybe
developers
to
have
a
standard
language?
Then
they
they
should
be
using
that
they
shouldn't
be
calling
things.
H
D
So
I
don't
know
that
I
can
require
a
Common,
Language
necessarily
but
I
always
say
the
devil's
in
the
details.
It
always
is,
and
those
are
the
things
that
we
look
at
so
when
I
see
that
in
a
rendering
I
immediately
go
to
their
plans
immediately,
go
to
their
facade,
rendering
and
make
sure
that
they
they're
actually
showing
what
how
it's
going
to
be
implemented
and
if
they're
not
then
that's.
My
first
comment
is
this:
is
this
a
vertical
cyst?
Is
it
a?
Is
it
a
green
wall
system?
D
So
those
are
the
words
that
I
use
and
again
they're
different
from
everybody
else's,
but
is
it
a
Greenwald
system,
meaning
it's
functioning
as
a
system
on
its
own,
or
is
it
a
cut
in
the
ground,
maybe
six
inches
of
soil
and
a
trellis,
and
that's
like
directly
how
we
ask
so
I
think
that's
that's
part
of
Staff,
as
what
we
do
is
is
look
at
all
of
those
details
when
we
see
the
renderings
and
make
sure
that
that's
what
that's
whatever
they
mean
is
what
you
guys
are
seeing
so.
Q
And
I
think
too
Laura
that
you
know
the
Harris
Teeter
on
North
Lee
was
a
classic
example.
They
showed
it
on
the
elevation
and
then
we
looked
at
the
details.
I'm
like
it's
AstroTurf
right.
D
Q
Like
texting,
Laura
I'm
like
it's,
it's
not
even
it's
plastic
right,
so
we
add
some.
It's
like
you
know.
Do
you
do
you
realize
that
this
is
not
when
we
went
through
the
sprc,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
about
this
green
wall
and
we're
looking
at
these
post
4.1
drawings,
we're
like
whoa,
wait
a
minute,
the
community's
expectation
and
we
can
roll
the
tape
was.
Is
that
that
was
going
to
be
a
living
green
wall?
Q
You
know
it
was
actually
going
to
be
natural,
so
they
changed
it,
but
we
also,
you
know
we
don't
want
them
to
produce
something
that
doesn't
survive
right,
so
we're
we'd
almost
rather
them
not
put
something
in
unless
they're
going
to
do
it
right
and
and
I
think.
That's
also
where
the
community
can
also
weigh
in
and
say
that
you
know
either
a
is
not
going
to
work
or
B.
If
you
are
going
to
do
it,
we
expect
it
to
to
meet
this.
Q
You
know
what
what
you're,
showing
and
I
think
that's
another
role
for
you
all
is
to
is
to
ask
the
questions,
because
they,
you
know
oftentimes
they
they
don't
know.
As
Laura
said,
and
the
more
we
can
get
them
to
commit
the
more
likely
we
are
to
get
it.
A
F
H
For
the
group
here
is
that
is
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
start
thinking
about
whether
it
would
be
really
helpful
to
have
a
guide,
I
guess
to
being
a
PRC
member
or
serving
on
one
of
these
sprcs,
because
I
found
myself
with
the
arvo
one
that
I
was
like.
You
know,
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
what
you
know
things
I
should
be
asking
for
and
what
I
mean
I
know
some
things,
but
those
people
are
confident
if
I,
if
I,
if
I
had
some
common.
A
Yeah,
when
this
is
primer,
I'm
planning
on
our
July
meeting
having
an
other
business
section
focused
directly
on
this
and
I
would
propose
that.
Perhaps
we
use
that
time
to
have
a
live,
shared,
brainstorming
document
and
we
start
adding
in
that
stuff.
I
think
these
14
points
make
it
in
I.
A
Think
we
put
in
some
questions
that
we
would
like
to
ask
some
generic
questions
and
then
we
can
add
it
have
it
be
a
living
document
that
isn't
official,
it's
not
going
to
anyone,
but
the
Commissioners
that
we
can
circulate
and
add
to
create
versions
of
for
our
uses
here.
I
think
that's
a
good
outcome.
We
we
were
talking
about
this
this
morning.
So
let's,
let's
do
that.
Let's
do
that.
Yeah.
E
I
happen
to
find
out
that
an
e2b2
some
kind
of
list
that
they,
if
you
can
get
what
they
ask
the
developers
I
think
even
before
they
have
them.
If
you
can
get
that,
we
can
add
it
two
hours.
They
were
asking
me
after
the
meeting.
Could
we
jointly
work
on
something
about
I.
A
D
A
Is
like
one
of
the
more
impactful
presentations
we
had
this
year,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
we'd
like
to
see
you
again
in
six
months
for
onboarding,
new
folks
and
getting
a
refresher.
Perhaps
we
can
share
with
you
what
we've
come
up
with
from
that
phrase.
Q
Well,
thank
you.
You
know
your
support,
for
this
is
is
very
important
to
us
and
the
more
you
can
sort
of
speak
to
that
I
think
the
the
more
beneficial
we
can
all
be
so
we,
this
is
a
this
is
a
partnership,
and
we
welcome
the
opportunity
to
to
talk
to
you
tonight,
because
this
is
something
that
we
love
and
the
more
people
that
we
get
behind.
This
I
think
the
more
successful
we
can
be
as
a
community.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
We've
still
got
a
little
bit
of
agenda
to
go
guys.
I
think
we
can
aim
for
9
30
as
in
good
closing
time.
Let's
try
and
reversely
get
there.
I'm
gonna
move
us
to
staff
Report
with
the
other
two
items
for
today.
Right.
B
So
I
wanted
to
first
mention
I,
think
it
was
mentioned
at.
F
During
Laura.
B
And
Chris's
discussion.
F
B
B
There
are
a
few
other
items:
I
can
just
go
through
a
few
of
them.
Max
Stewart
who's
on
the
call
as
well
we'll
be
following
up
with
the
discussion
on
the
facility
naming
at
Highview,
Park
related
to
a
diamond
field
there
to
potentially
Alfred
Foreman
senior
field
and
I.
Believe
the
commission
saw
that
item
or
heard
about
that
item.
A
few
months.
B
Yes,
that's
a
good
point.
The
next
PRC
meeting
is
all
virtual,
so
there
won't
be
the
the
need
for
an
in-person
form
within.
G
B
This
room,
we
will
also
be
potentially
hearing
the
arva,
as
you
mentioned,
Adam
I
believe
the
applicant
will
be
providing
a
presentation
related
to
that
I
mentioned
the
fnrp
and
then
potentially
a
presentation,
presentation,
discussion
on
the
food
study
which
see
PhD
staff
will
be
providing.
B
F
B
Yes
and
then
also,
if
you
haven't
been
to
Pentagon
City
met,
Park
is
open,
so
please
check
it
out.
The
dog
run
is
open
playground,
Forest,
walk
facility,
the
community
table
the
County
Board,
actually.
B
The
use
permit
last
month
for
a
new
Open
Air
Market
in
and
around
that
space
and
I
believe
their
first
date
will
be
June
24th.
So
please
come.
A
Help
thank
you
Marco.
Thank
you,
okay,
I'm,
going
to
zip
through
other
business.
So
thank
you
all
for
providing
commission
reports
to
Marco
as
usual.
We
continue
to
do
that.
I'm,
going
to
move
this
through
other
business
and
try
and
get
quickly
so
APS
career
center
letter
will
be
written.
I've
taken
notes
on
points
here,
I'm
going
to
voluntell
Sergio
to
be
the
writer
here,
but
I,
don't
know
if
he'll
be
able
to
So.
Adam
has
already
raised
his
hand
to
be
on
editor
else
like
to
be
part
of
that.
A
A
Go
out
today
for
me,
since
we
have
that
June
10th
deadline,
my
goal
would
be
to
get
something
written
by
Sergio
by
the
end
of
the
month
or
first,
then,
we
can
edit
for
10
days,
send
it
to
the
full
commission,
send
it
to
the
board
by
the
10th,
which
is
10th
or
13th
when
we
participated
it'll
go
to
the
board.
Okay,
next
August
field
trip.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
this?
We're.
B
B
So
we
are
going
to
have
staff,
provide
us
a
walking
tour
of
the
new
or
renovated
Alcova
heights
park.
So
we're
really
happy
about
that.
They
actually
do
have
a
lot
of
flexibility.
So
we
have
two
dates
already
identified
within
the
calendar:
August
15th
or
the
22nd
we're
able
to
make
either
one
work
so
they're.
A
Of
August,
both
work
for
me,
I
didn't
have
preference
and
anyone
had
any
preference.
There
there's
also
not
board
meetings
on
either
of
those
days
check
that.
B
So
that,
for
these
particular
meetings
for
those
that
are
that
are
new
within
the
commission,
we
don't
act
on
official
items
we
beat
earlier.
Actually
so
we'll
be
starting.
The
walking
to
around
6
p.m,
probably
meet
for
about
an
hour
act
on
the
minutes
from
the
July
meeting.
But
that's
really
the
only
official
business
that
we'll.
A
F
A
A
August,
15th
or
22nd
a
problem
for
you
for
our
field
trip.
K
I
cannot
attend
either
as
I'll
be
on
a
business
trip
for
two
weeks.
During
that
time,
no.
A
Worries
no
worries.
Thank
you
for
the
heads
up.
Okay,
we'll
figure
out
we'll
figure
out
what
we're
doing
the
best.
Then
thank
you
guys,
okay,
great!
So
that's
that
okay
appointment
of
PRC
co-chairs
for
the
Bill
Thomas
award,
so
we've,
given
it
a
little
bit
of
thought
and
I'm
doing
the
appointment
now.
A
A
It's
one
of
the
main
things
that
we
vote
on
and
adjudicate
like
to
have
a
seasoned
member
like
Melissa
and
a
new
member
new
members
or
new
member.
So
I
would
love
for
both
Nelson
and
Alex
to
serve
if
you
guys
are
open
to
it
to
help
with
Melissa
with
adjudicating
the
work.
There'll
be
a
team
of
seven.
B
B
No
so
it'd
be
five
five
T
Numbers
within
the
committee.
The
five
members
within
the
community.
A
Got
it
okay,
so
we
will
have
a
panel
of
folks
Melissa
will
kind
of
walk
you
through
excited
about
the
applicants.
You'll
be
able
to
get
on
the
floor
and
understand
like
what
makes
a
volunteer
a
good
volunteer
and
the
bigger
news.
Even
bigger
news,
is
that
this
year
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
big
party
to
celebrate
this
year's
winners.
Upcoming
winners,
as
well
as
the
winners
from
since
2020..
A
We
haven't
been
able
to
celebrate
them.
Yes
and
we've
chosen
to
wait
until
we
can
actually
in
celebration.
We
couldn't
do
that
last
year
because
the
building
was
on
the
renovation
still
not
because
of
covid.
So
this
is
our
year
to
fully
celebrate.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
once
we
get
that
date
on
the
calendar,
that's
socialized!
Well,
we
can
all
attend,
because
when
we
did
do
it
in
the
past,
it
was
a
great
moment.
We
usually
got
in
the
paper
about
it.
Things
like
that
bring.
B
It
back,
and
typically
they
they're
usually
scheduled
during
like
a
recessed
County
board
meeting
date,
either
before
or
after
so
just
be
on
the
lookout
we'll
be
planning
that
up
as
we.
A
Great
okay:
moving
to
our
last
items,
I'm
gonna
table
the
potential
pickleball
opportunities
letters.
We're
calling
about
this
Mark
Lincoln's
suggestion
to
possibly
cite
pickleball
courts
and
variety
of
locations.
We'll
say
that
for
next
meeting,
when
he's
at
the
meeting,
psnpic
didn't
have
a
whole
bunch,
we
did
have
an
update
on
psmp
from
the
county
last
month.
A
I
can
share
those
the
presentation
with
you
guys.
If
we
even
talk
about
it
next
month,
too,
I
have
news
about
that.
We're
looking
good.
The
acreage
thing
is
rancid.
We're
like
at
a
little
more
than
three
acres
out
of
our
30-year
commitment
and
worked
five
years
in
our
30
acre
commitment
and
we're
five
years
at
halfway
like
do.
They
think
that
Army
Navy
Drive
is
going
to
be
sold
like
what
are
we
going
to
do
here
like
I?
A
F
A
Concerned,
okay.
Last
item,
then
Peter
I'm
gonna
kick
it
over
to
you.
So
this
is
the
Quincy
Park
letter.
Have
you
provided
a
redo
drop
that
presented
letter,
form
I?
Think
that's
the
first
yeah.
A
A
I
think
that
the
first
the
action
item
for
tonight
would
possibly
be
just
because
of
our
timing.
Today,
let's
circulate
this
letter.
I'd
love
to
get
an
editorial
commission
committee
for
this
letter
that
Peter
has
written
it
says
Workshop
it
the
text.
Is
there
anyone
off
the
get-go
right
now?
Who
would
be
interested
in
being
in
that
editorial
committee?
We
don't
have
any
deadlines
for
this
great
Alex.
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
I
would
like
to
also
be
part
of
it.
A
Let's
do
that
if
everyone
who
just
raised
their
hand,
including
myself,
take
a
look
at
the
letter
and
provide
feedback
to
Peter
directly.
Perhaps
we
can
do
this
with
centralizing
feedback
around
Peter.
We.
F
A
H
A
M
A
M
H
H
F
P
A
B
Even
have
a
meeting
so
if
you
can
have
it
well,
the
parameters
for
that
particular
meeting
then
would
just
be
a
discussion
amongst
the
Commissioners
that
are
present
in
the
room.
So
you
cannot
act
on
any
particular
item.
So,
for
example,
minutes
you
can't
act
on
minutes.
You
can't
have
a
vote
on
a
potential
name
or
a
memorial
plaque
or
anything
else,
that's
being
considered
by
the
commission.
Sure.
A
B
Yeah,
so
I
would
suggest
if
you
want
more
information
about
this
and
I
had
mentioned
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
as
well.
B
We
have
a
County
Board
office
staff
liaison
or
Aid
actually
Sandra
Callisto
Mendoza,
who
works
with
with
a
County
Board
member
Takis
karantonis,
and
is
also
who
you
know
liaises
for
our
commission
so
be
in
touch
with
her,
and
she
may
be
able
to
provide
you
more
information
based
off
of
what
the
county
attorney's
office
has
provided
me,
but
also
what
is
allowed
within
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia,
because
again,
this
is
what
these
are,
the
parameters
that
were
you
know,
working
with
and
unless
the
Commonwealth
provides
us
more
latitudes
in
the
future.
B
B
A
We
have
to
follow,
the
rules
are
stupid,
and
but
we
have
to
follow
them.
That's
the
limiting
factor
like
we're.
Even
talking
about
things
like
the
difference
between
12
members
and
13
members
makes
a
difference
in
helping
us
meet
the
Quorum,
even
though
the
value
is
still
seven
people
we
have
to
it's
just
like
so
mixed
bag.
Here,
we're.
H
A
A
Not
on
the
agenda
today
Dr
Byrne,
but
we
can
definitely
bring
up
the
alarm
park
at
a
separate
meeting.
Unfortunately,
we've
had
a
really
package
on
us
today,
so
it's
hard
to
cover
all
the
topics,
but
we
can
table
it
and
I've
noted
your
public
comment
for
future.