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Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
May
1st
2023
meeting
of
the
Arlington
County
Planning
Commission
I'm,
commissioner
Steinberger
Vice,
chair
filling
in
for
our
chair,
who
had
a
conflict
Tonight
Tonight.
The
commission
will
consider
the
following
agenda
items
item
one
zoa
2023-05
an
ordinance
to
amend,
reenact
and
recodify
articles;
three
four:
five:
six:
seven:
eight
twelve
thirteen
fifteen.
A
Sixteen
eighteen
of
the
Arlington
County
zodiac
zoning
ordinance
to
correct
technical
errors
and
to
update
regulatory
inconsistencies;
item
T
at
item
two
zoa
2023-06,
fbc-30
and
nfbc-17
in
ordinance
to
amend
reenact
and
recodify
articles,
7,
8,
11,
12
and
18
sections
three
and
four
of
appendix
a
Columbia
Pike
special
revitalization
district,
form-based
code
and
part
9
of
appendix
B
Columbia,
Pike,
neighborhood,
special
revitalization
district
form-based
code
of
the
Arlington
County
zoning
ordinance.
Acco
do
I
have
to
read
all
the
items.
It's
relating
to
do.
A
I
have
to
read
all
the
sub
items
that
it's
relating
to
great
and
assorted
sub
items,
one
through
six
item:
three
consideration
of
the
following
actions
pertaining
to
2000:
North,
Glebe,
Road,
Sunrise,
Senior,
Living,
special
General
land
use
planned
glove
study.
A
Acceptance
of
the
2000
North
Glebe
Road
Sunrise
Senior
Living
special
General
land
use
plan
study
document
request
to
advertise
future
public
hearings
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
County
Board
to
consider
a
club
Amendment
from
low
residential
one
to
ten
units
per
acre
to
low
medium
residential
for
the
area
located
in
the
Northwestern
corner
of
North,
Glebe,
Road
and
20th
Street
North,
and
then
the
last
time
will
be
PC
business
approval
of
the
April
10
2023
meeting
minutes
staff
report
on
current
matters
I
believe
we
have
a
few
other
assorted
activities
great
with
that
I'm
going
to
call
the
first
item.
A
Do
we
that's
the
zoa
233-05
ordinance
to
amen,
recodify
and
reenact
and
re-codify
a
series
of
Articles
of
the
audience
accounting
zoning
audience
ordinance?
Is
there
a
staff
presentation
on
this.
B
A
B
Okay
is
the
presentation
up
okay
yeah,
so
this
is
a
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
ordinance
that
is
going
to
be
taking
quite
a
few
Corrections
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
There
are
multiple
errors
that
are
very
technical
in
nature.
B
Just
to
give
you
a
background
so
over
the
course
of
the
past
several
years-
and
you
know,
while
and
administering
the
zoning
ordinance
writing
determinations
issuing
permits,
answering
questions
to
interpret
the
zoning
ordinance
We've
in
the
zoning
division
like
We've
discovered
quite
a
few
minor
errors
and
accuracies
and
consistencies.
B
These
are
everything
from
like
minor
grammatical
errors
to
incorrect
citations
and
references.
It
could
be
Provisions
that
are
not
in
compliance
with
the
code
of
Virginia
or
other
regulations,
such
as
the
building
code
or
the
county
code,
and
in
the
zoning
version
we
have
maintained
a
catalog
of
these
and
as
of
today,
there
are
approximately
60
of
these
errors
and
we
are,
and
we've
been
working
with
the
planning
division
to
come
up
with
a
system
to
take
these
errors
through
the
legislative
process
that
have
them
corrected.
B
The
issue
with
these
errors
is
that
these
are
all
demonstrably
provable
they're.
So
there's
really
no
like
study
policy
or
Community
engagement.
These
are
correcting
things
that
are,
you
know
just
demonstrably
provable
that
they're
wrong
on
on.
You
may
not
be
able
to
see
on
the
slide,
but,
on
the
right
hand,
slide.
You
know
these
are
some
examples
of
like
the
errors.
For
instance,
Jefferson
Davis
Highway
was
renamed
Richmond
Highway
several
years
back.
B
So
there's
really
no,
not
a
lot
of
policy
study
to
correct
that,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
going
through
with
a
series
of
these
amendments
to
correct
these
errors
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
This
first
batch
is
is
primarily
like
line
item
edits.
They're
very.
We
basically
have
been
three
categories
of
scrivener's
Errors,
technical,
Corrections
and
clarifications
and
again
like
Distributors.
B
Errors
are
like
like
incorrect
citations
in
some
cases
or
spelling
or
grammatical
errors,
errors
on
diagrams
that
are
not
in
line
with
importing
with
the
actual
text
of
the
regulations.
B
The
technical
Corrections
are
again
more
conflicting,
Provisions
like
like
regulations
that
don't
comport
with
like
the
code
of
Virginia
or
the
building
code
and
so
forth,
and
then
clarifications
are
more
they're
just
to
make
things
clearer
when
we
have
to
interpret
the
zoning
ordinance
and
again,
this
would
be
the
first
in
a
series
we're
going
to
do
this.
Future
ones
will
include
updating
our
Telecom
regulations
to
be
consistent
with
the
code
of
Virginia.
B
There
are
several
inconsistencies
with
particularly
article
three,
which
pertains
to
setback
placement
coverage
for
birray
projects
and
yeah,
and
so
like
there
will
be
more
of
these
coming
forward,
but
this
is
like
the
very
first
one
of
these
technical
Corrections
that
we're
hoping
to
go
through
the
process.
So
again,
I
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
Madam
chair
secretary?
Do
we
have
any
public
speakers
on
this
item?
Do
you
have
any
not
public
speakers
on
this
item?
Well,.
A
No
speakers
got
it.
The
matter
is
now
with
the
commission.
Do
we
have
anyone
who
wishes
to
be
recognized
in
this
item?
I'll.
Do
it?
Oh
sorry,
it's
okay
report.
Yes,
please
yeah.
D
So
this
came
in
front
of
zoko
in
January,
17th
I
believe
and
it's
something
we've
been
expecting
to
be
coming
up
and
it
will
come
up
again
as
the
staff
presentation
mentioned
so,
but
other
than
that.
It's
fairly
self-explanatory
and
straightforward.
A
I
appreciate
the
clear
report
on
that
matter.
Would
anyone
on
the
commission
like
to
be
recognized
for
this
item?
Questions
comments
concerns
if
not
I
have
a
motion
great.
A
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommends
the
County
Board
amend,
reenact
and
recodify
articles
three
four:
five:
six:
seven,
eight
twelve
thirteen
fifteen.
Sixteen
and
eighteen
of
the
Arlington
County
zoning
ordinance,
as
shown
an
attachment,
a
of
the
staff
report
to
correct
technical
errors
to
update
regulatory
inconsistencies
to
make
editorial
changes
for
improved
Clarity
and,
for
other
reasons
required
by
public
necessity,
convenience,
general
welfare
and
good
zoning
practice.
F
A
A
You,
commissioner,
Garen,
has
seconded.
Is
there
any
discussion?
A
Sorry,
commissioner,
Hughes
hi
Commissioner
Karen
aye,
commissioner
Weir.
G
D
A
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Can
you
please
call
the
second
item
sure.
C
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
we're
here
tonight
to
address
two
potential
or
proposed
changes
to
the
zoning
ordinance
use
tables
that
will
be
heard
by
the
County
Board
later
this
this
month.
H
H
So
again
my
name
is
Mark
McCauley
Arlington
economic
development,
but
in
this
context
one
of
the
co-leads
of
the
commercial
Market
resiliency
initiative,
the
managers
initiative
to
more
nimbly
and
adeptly
change,
parts
of
the
zoning
ordinance
in
response
to
economic
change.
H
This
item
was
advertised
by
the
County
Board
on
March
18th.
We
went
to
the
zoco
on
March
14th,
had
a
good
discussion
there
and
come
coming
before
the
board.
This
month
is
relative
to
the
quick
nature
of
the
process
of
the
commercial
Market
resilience
initiative,
in
particular,
with
these
uses.
The
relatively
limited
impact
that
these
uses
inside
of
Office
Buildings
would
have
on
the
general
public
identified
tenant
demand
and
the
potential
positive
impact
on
Place
making
goals
and
office
vacancy.
H
So
first
audio
visual
production
and
broadcast
space
you'll
see
the
definition
here.
Obviously
someone
self-explanatory.
These
are
uses
that
would
be
producing
and
broadcasting
audio
and
visual
media.
We
currently
have
a
definition
in
the
zoning
ordinance,
but
this
would
expand
it
and
why
are
we
doing
this?
Well,
obviously,
media
companies
have
been
using
are
are
often
have
been
part
of
our
office
inventory
for
quite
some
time,
but
as
the
economy
has
changed,
we've
seen
some
different
Trends
things
like
podcasting
digital
broadcasting.
H
Co-Location
of
these
types
of
uses
within
hotels,
Office,
Buildings,
restaurants,
I
mean
multi-family
and
Retail
spaces
and
the
growth
of
something
that
I
don't
know
anything
about,
but
other
people
do
the
influencer
market
and
apparently
that's
a
big
thing.
So
we're
really
trying
to
make
sure
our
zoning
ordinance
is
reflective
of
these
these
opportunities
again.
This
would
allow
for
a
co-location
of
these
types
of
uses
with
with
other
spaces
and
to
fill
vacant.
H
Space
provides
an
attractive
amenity,
allows
for
new
revenue
streams
for
buildings
that
are
looking
to
recover
from
the
pandemic,
looking
to
lower
the
barrier
of
Entry
in
creating
visually
interesting
speech,
Scapes
and
space
for
creativity
and
skill
building
for
for
folks
for
uses
that
bring
people
together
and
create
a
sense
of
community.
H
This
is
the
introduction
of
office
into
office
spaces
of
what
we
typically
is
called
r
d
space,
which
is
a
combination
of
traditional
office,
uses
with
things
like
robotic
Labs
or
Laboratories
or
other
things,
but
it's
not
meant
to
be
wholesale
manufacturing
or
production.
H
It's
r
d
research,
often
with
technology
very
clean
type
of
of
research,
not
not
messy
and
therefore
have
have
been
really
are
appropriate
for
office
space
use,
particularly
since
a
lot
of
these
uses
are
something
that
our
emerging
tech
companies
want
to
really
have,
as
they
think
about
how
to
use
their
space
post
pandemic.
They
need
places
for
administrative
functions
for
office
use,
but
also
need
places
to
do
these
sort
of
research
and
development
activities.
H
So
again,
the
idea
here
being
that
the
way
commercial
office
buildings
are
being
used
is,
has
changed
and
has
continued
to
changing,
not
just
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
I
think,
certainly,
as
we
think
about
return
to
office.
These
are
the
types
of
uses
that
actually
bring
people
back
into
the
office.
H
We
all
know
we
can
work
from
home
if
we
have
a
have
a
have
a
zoom
or
teams,
but
in
terms
of
doing
these
types
of
activities,
you
need
to
be
in
a
space
with
specialized
equipment
that
can
handle
the
the
necessary
back
of
back
of
house
activities
that
support
these.
So
we
really
think
this
is
an
important
part
of
not
only
filling
vacant
office
space
but
obviously
having
uses
that
bring
people
back
into
the
office
and
supporting
our
local
community.
H
So
again,
a
lot
of
this,
as
I
said
return
to
office,
allows
our
big
team,
which,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
the
tournament,
so
our
business
Investment,
Group
and
AED,
who
go
out
there
and
find
tenants
and
retain
tenants.
This
allows
them
to
ramp
up
efforts
across
the
country
to
find
firms
and
better
off
of
them.
H
This
type
of
space
it
allows
entrepreneurs
to
locate
their
universities
and
Industry,
which
we
think
is
an
important
Synergy
and
then
obviously,
one
of
the
outcomes
here
is
that
we
think
that,
through
this,
we'll
have
a
much
more
streamlined
process.
If
we
do
have
a
tenant,
that's
looking
to
be
creative
with
their
space,
we'll
have
the
ability
to
react
quickly
and
get
them
into
that
space
and
make
their
decision
faster.
H
So
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
at
zoko
and
I'm
sure
commissioner
Sally
will
mention
this
as
well.
We
had
a
good
discussion
about
you
know.
Well
what
what
are
the
is
there
any
danger
of
these
uses
from
a
landing's
perspective?
We
really
think
these
uses,
given
the
technology
that
they
use,
are
not
they're,
not
dirty.
H
Industry,
they're,
clean
industry,
but
also
that
there's
a
number
of
other
regulations
that
exist
local
state
and
federal
that
protect
us
from
any
of
these
uses
being
a
nuisance
or
not
such
imp
having
a
nuisance
or
not
not
just
impact
on
the
broader
community,
and
we
are
certainly
not
alone.
In
fact,
I
think
this
is
certainly
an
example
of
one
where
we
need
to.
H
We
need
to
work
quickly
on
these
sort
of
amendments
to
catch
up
in
many
ways
to
our
peer
cities
like
in
Boston
and
Cambridge
out
in
the
West
San
Diego
San
Francisco
Berkeley.
All
of
these
places
have
parts
of
those
running
ordinance
that
allow
these
uses
within
Office
Buildings
and
even
locally
Montgomery
County
Prince
George's
County
Fair
first
County
have
also
worked
to
get
these
types
of
uses.
H
So
we
really
think
this
is
important
for
our
competitive
positioning
in
the
marketplace
and
you'll
see
that
currently
how
the
office
table
looks,
and
all
this
would
simply
do
is
add
a
newly
defined
use
of
research
and
development
Flex,
as
well
as
redefining
Audio,
Visual
and
broadcast
studio
as
part
of
our
office
use.
H
This
is
important
because,
as
we
improve
site
plans
and
they're
approved
for
office,
having
them
in
the
office
use
table
is
important
so
that
we
don't
need
any
major
site
plan
or
minor
site
plan
amendments
to
be
able
to
allow
these
buy
right
uses
and
again.
This
is
the
I
won't
read
this,
but
but
part
of
this
is
also
we
reflecting
the
change
of
the
office
definition
of
office
to
include
these
uses,
and
then
the
recommendation
I
obviously
will
not
read
this,
but
so
thank
you.
H
Any
questions
happy
to
have
a
good
discussion.
A
D
Yes,
did
this
come
in
front
of
zoko
on
March
14th,
as
Miss
McCauley
mentioned,
and
we
did
have
a
fairly
hearty
discussion
about
unintended
consequences
and
sort
of
making
sure
that
we
can
fix
any
issues
as
we
go
along
I
think
this
whole
process,
you
know,
as
it's
been
coming
in
front
of
the
zoko
and
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission,
is
sort
of
an
ongoing
activity
and
we're
sort
of
just
making
the
market
more
resilient,
which
of
course,
we've
all
heard
about
so
I
think
this
is
something
that
generally
the
zocal
committee
was
happy
to
support.
A
Excellent
appreciate
that
report-
the
matter
is
now
with
the
commission.
Commissioner:
sarley.
Are
there
any
specific
topic
areas
you'd
like
to
direct
our
conversation
to
otherwise
I
open
the
floor?
If
there
are
specific
topic
areas
or
we
can
have
a
I,
think
it's
a
concise
enough
topic,
we
can
have
a
free-for-all.
D
I'm
welcome
with
free
for
all
the
only
highlight
was
sort
of
this
notion
of
controlling
any
sort
of
dangerous,
or
perhaps
you
know,
toxic
or
chemical
or
bio
sort
of
uses,
Within
These
and
how
we
would
control
it.
I
think
there
was
a
little
bit
of
unclearity
as
to
which
code
would
be
in
effect,
I.
D
Don't
think
the
building
code
manages
what
kind
of
use
goes
into
a
building,
but
Mr
McAuley
can
correct
me
and
clarify
that
issue,
and
that
was
a
little
bit
of
the
sort
of
thing
that
really
stood
out
in
my
mind.
But
I.
Don't
think
it's
something
that
we
need
to
be
too
worried
about,
but
other
than
that
it's
a
referral.
A
For
this
item,
the
prior
item
already
passed,
so
you
lost
your
chance.
No
other
commission
reports
on
this
item.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
update
Commissioners
Harley.
Would
anyone
like
to
be
recognized
on
this
item?
Yes,
commissioner,
Peterson
and
then
commissioner
Lynn
tell
me.
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
appreciate
you
listing
in
the
staff
report
all
of
the
different
regulations
that
would
be
acting
to
protect
the
citizens
from
possible,
chemical
or
or
other
hazardous
research
that
might
be
getting
done.
I
did
want
to
clarify
so
we
have
listed
here.
You
know,
research
and
development.
I
So
after
listening
to
me
read
that
list,
my
concern
would
be
if
a
citizen
was
worried
about
something
that
was
happening
in
a
building
that
was
or
in
a
unit
like
below
them.
If
it's
ground
floor
usage
or
in
a
building
next
to
them,
are
they
going
to
have
to
search
in
these,
like
you
know,
12
different
Regulatory
Agencies
to
make
sure
that
this
is
kosher?
Is
there
any
person
a
point
of
contact
that
they
could
reach
out
to
and
say
you
know,
I
smell?
Something
strange:
is
this
safe?
I
How
do
we
know
it's
safe,
a
startup
organization
that
is
interested
in
doing
some
R
D
as
a
new
business?
This
seems
like
a
lot
of
organizations
that
they'd
have
to
get
into
compliance
with,
whereas
maybe
if
there
was
an
Arlington
policy
that
kind
of
brought
everything
together
very
easily,
it
might
make
it
easier
for
a
small
business
startup
to
get
into
this
market.
So
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
feedback
on
all
of
that.
If
this
is
the
easiest
way
from
a
Communications
point
of
view
to
handle
this
yeah.
H
I
think
I
think
the
the
short
answer
is:
is
the
easiest
first
call
and
really
overarching
Life
Safety
has
been
through
our
inspective
services
division,
a
building
code
and
they
would
capture
all
that
I
think
a
lot
of
these
other
regulations.
Quite
frankly,
if
you
are
in
the
business
of
doing
bioscience,
laboratory
work,
you're-
probably
just
more
familiar
with
these,
because
that's
part
of
your
business,
you
have
to
get
the
right
certification
get
the
right.
But
yes,
from
a
from
a
practical
standpoint,
if
someone
said
you
know,
I,
don't
I,
there's
a
smell.
H
There's
a
noise
there's
a
vibration.
The
first
call
would
be
to
the
building
code
official
and
they
would
check
it
out
and
certainly
that
the
building
code
would
be
a
pretty
robust
tool
for
for
for
for
for
addressing
any
noxious
issues
that
were
coming
out
of
the
space.
J
They
can.
Thank
you.
Yes,
thank
you.
I'm
very
happy
with
this
moving
forward.
I
participated
in
the
zoko,
and
we
did
have
a
very
robust
discussion
about
all
of
these
topics.
So
I
think
we
did
a
pretty
good
job
vetting.
Those
raising
the
questions,
I
think
that
needed
to
be
needed
to
be
answered.
So
that
was
great.
What
really
helps
me
here
also
is
that
Cambridge
Massachusetts
basically
has
no
controls.
They
rely
on
others.
Cambridge
in
many
ways
is
our
twin
in
I
mean
in
so
many
ways
it's
our
twin.
J
So
if
they've
been
having
a
very
good
experience
with
this
and
I,
take
it
it's
more
than
just
a
year
or
so
that
they've
been
that
they
have
had
the
this
Paradigm
in
place.
That
gives
me
a
lot
of
confidence
that
it'll
work.
Here
too,
it's
been
quite
a
engine
for
growth
in
in
Cambridge,
these
type
of
uses.
J
It's
it's.
They
just
line
them
up
all
through
through
Cambridge.
They
have
entire
areas
of
the
city
that
seem
to
be
devoted
to
this
type
of
work.
So
it'd
be
great.
If
we
could
have
that
happen
here
also,
that
would
definitely
help
help
with
our
office
vacancy
rates.
Do
we
have
other
types
of
getting
a
little
off
topic?
Others
coming
in
the
pipeline,
looking
at
regulations
that
we
can
be
streamlining
that
would
allow
us
to
have
more
economic
activity
in
our
in
our
office,
buildings.
H
So
we
have
gone
to
the
zoco
on
that
as
well
or
we'll
be
going
to
the
zoo,
I'm,
sorry,
right
and
and
I
think
that's
the
next.
That's
the
next
one.
That's
been
advertised
after
that
we
are
we're,
definitely
looking
at
okay.
H
What
is
what
is
next,
I
can
tell
you
top
of
list
is
a
process
change,
that's
been
in
the
planning
work
plan
for
quite
some
time,
though,
we're
working
with
planning
on
which
is
the
admin
minor,
major
definition
of
what
comes
before
the
pledge
commission
and
the
board
to
streamline
that
process
and
to
have
a
robust
discussion
about
that.
We're
also,
we've
done
a
fair
amount
of
work
behind
the
scenes
on
things
like
office
to
residential,
conversions
and
I.
Think
we'll
be
coming
forth
with
some
zoning
text.
H
Changes
that
maybe
clarified
that
particularly
adding
a
potentially
a
live
work
unit
as
a
defined
use,
because
a
lot
of
these
conversions
are
taking
a
floor
plate
and
sort
of
saying
instead
of
a
unit,
that's
just
an
apartment.
It's
a
unit,
that's
an
apartment
that
also
has
an
office
space.
So
if
people
have
you
know
if
you're
an
architect-
and
you
have
one
or
two
employees
that
they're
not
sitting
on
your
your
bed-
well
they're
working,
but
it's,
but
it's
using
officially
the
floor
plate
of
an
office
building.
So
that's
another
one.
H
We
look
looking
at
and
then
there's
a
number
of
other
ones
that
we
are
things
like
Self,
Storage,
other
things
that
have
we've.
People
have
come
to
us
and
sort
of
said:
hey
can
I
use
my
office
4
plate
for
something
a
little
differently.
H
Data
centers,
for
instance,
is
also
on
our
list
and
then
I
think
throughout
the
rest
of
this
year
that
that
this
process
was
always
intended
to
be
proactive,
but
also
to
be
responsive,
so
I
think
there's
only
going
to
be
a
limited
Universe
of
New
Uses
that
we
can
study
until
we
hear
from
people
in
the
marketplace
and
sort
of
say,
hey
I've
just
spoke
with
a
great
idea
can
I
do
this,
and
part
of
this
process
is
about
having
the
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
say.
Okay.
H
Now,
let's
do
that
quickly,
so
we're
we're
definitely
still
in
proactive
mode,
but
then
I
think
later
in
the
year,
we'll
be
really
just
waiting
for
new
ideas
to
come
to
us
so
that
we
can
react
to
them.
J
K
L
Thanks
first
from
the
form-based
code
perspective,
this
wasn't
heard
from
the
form-based
code,
although
it
impacts
it.
So
I
feel
obliged
to
inform
my
colleagues
and
generally
the
form-based
code,
members
of
the
OG,
encourage
as
many
uses
as
possible
and
the
form
base
code
to
be
consistent
with
all
other
areas
of
the
county.
L
So
there's
nothing
in
this
particular
text
that
would
infringe
upon
that
I
felt
like
that
first
and
for
my
own
self,
as
a
personal
as
a
commissioner,
I
continue
to
be
concerned
that
we
go
through
an
iterative
list,
as
you
just
explained,
as
a
reactionary
function
to
how
we
deal
with
commercial
office
vacancy
and
in
general,
the
Adaptive
nature
of
the
market
and
would
greatly
prefer
for
staff
to
work
on
a
performance-based
system
that
works
on
externalities.
Of
course,
three
major
ones
are
smell:
noxiousness,
odors,
noxious
noise
and
noxious
vibrations.
L
Those
are
the
three
things
that
if
people
don't
experience
in
their
life,
they
really
aren't
concerned
too
much
what's
going
on
underneath
them.
If
those
three
things
aren't
something
they
deal
with
on
on
the
separate
note,
I
will
be
abstaining
this
evening
because
of
the
inclusion
of
the
biological
within
the
particular
listed
categories
of
uses
for
r
d.
There
are
standards,
I
understand
the
various
standards
that
are
required,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
broader
conversation
has
been
complete
on
that.
L
A
Okay,
with
that
I,
have
a
motion
that
I
will
make.
It
is
a
long
one.
A
A
The
item
is
now
with
the
board.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion?
Any
thing
we
need
to
resolve
before
moving
to
a.
M
You
know
I
I'm,
fully
supportive
of
this
motion
and
we'll
vote
for
it.
It
just
it
wouldn't
be.
My
last
full
commission
hearing
if
I
didn't
make
one
recommendation
on
Robert's
Rules,
which
is
Madam
chair
I,
would
recommend
that
you
not
make
motions
as
well
your
chair
and
that,
because
you
would
be
ruling
on
those
as
chair.
A
A
Could
you
reframe
your
question
as
a
question
about
the
motion?
That's
before
the
committee.
Are
you
sure?
Okay,
then,
if
there's
no
other
discussion,
we
will
move
to
a
vote.
Okay,
commissioner,
Begley
aye
was
not
ready.
Hang
on.
A
Commissioner
Weir
aye,
commissioner
Lynn
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
Peterson
abstain.
Commissioner
sarley.
E
M
A
Commissioner,
Steinberger
aye,
the
motion
carries
unanimously
with
four
abstentions.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
comprehensive
report.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
our
next
item.
Madam
clerk.
Can
you
please
call
the
next
item?
Yes,.
C
And
we'll
give
staff
time
to
set
up
our
next
item.
Number
three
is
the
consideration
of
the
following
actions
pertaining
to
2000
North
Glee
road,
which
is
the
Sunrise
Senior
Living
special
General
land
use
plan
glup
study
3A
is
the
acceptance
of
the
2000
North
Glebe
Road
Sunrise
Senior
Living
special
General
land
use
plan
study
document.
C
3B
is
a
request
to
advertise
future
public
hearings
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
County
Board
to
consider
a
glup
Amendment
from
low
residential
to
low
medium
residential
for
the
area
located
at
the
Northwestern
corner
of
North
Glebe
Road
and
20th
Street.
We
have
two
planning
staff.
Our
main
project
manager
on
this
is
Margaret
tulips
Rhodes
and
we
have
Kelly
Brown
as
our
staff
to
present
this
item
this
evening.
A
Thank
you
and
I
believe
we
will
hear
a
staff
presentation
first
and
then
applicant
okay,
a
staff
presentation
when
you're
ready.
Thank
you.
E
O
O
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
amendment
to
the
general
land
use
plan
from
low
residential
one
to
ten
units
per
acre
to
low
medium
residential
16
to
36
units
per
acre.
There
is
also
an
anticipated
future.
Zoning
rezoning
request
from
R6
to
ra-818,
Gallup
and
Zoning
amendments
would
be
needed
to
support
expansion
of
the
existing
Elder
Care
use.
O
And
here
we
have
an
excerpt
from
the
general
land
use
plan
and
an
excerpt
from
our
zoning
map.
As
you
can
see
here,
the
subject
site
outlined
in
blue
is
low
residential
one
to
ten
units
per
acre
and
you
can
see
in
the
surrounding
area.
There
is
low
residential
there's
public,
there's
government,
Community
facilities
and
Northeast
from
the
site.
You
can
see
low
medium
residential
adjacent
to
the
low
residential
on
they
got
the
sorry,
the
zoning
excerpt
you
can
see
that
the
site
is
R6.
O
During
the
special
Club
study
process,
we
developed,
of
course,
a
project
webpage
and
we
had
two
long-range
planning
committee
meetings.
At
those
meetings,
the
lrpc
was
comprised
of
representatives
from
the
gleeboid
and
Waverly
Hill,
civic
association,
the
Housing
Commission,
the
forestry
and
Natural
Resources
Commission,
the
Commission
on
Aging,
the
disability
advisory
commission,
the
Transportation
Commission
and
The
Pedestrian
advisory
committee.
O
O
O
They
are
intended
to
ensure
that
building
scale
massing
and
materials
complement
the
surrounding
area
that
there
is
the
provision
of
attractive
and
welcoming
pedestrian
level
conditions
established
through
tree
conservation,
landscaping,
biophilic
design
and
underground
parking.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
access,
connectivity
and
safety
are
prioritized
for
all
modes
of
travel
in
and
around
the
site.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
sustainability
and
stormwater
management
best
practices
are
prioritized,
and
we
also.
This
was
something
that
the
lrpc
requested,
that
we
add.
O
So
you
can
see
here
it's
at
a
1.5,
far
for
Elder
Care,
which
is
the
maximum
density
and
we're
just
showing
this
as
one
way
in
which
the
site
could
redevelop
here
is
another
model
again
for
stories,
but
we're
showing
a
modest
amount
of
bonus
density
so
for
Elder
Care
we're
showing
0.25
far
bonus
density,
which
could
allow
for
some
potential
Community
benefits
such
as
Green
Building
initiative
benefits,
and
here
is
another
alternative
where
it's
a
five-story
building
and
the
bulk
of
that
height
is
up
along
North
Glebe
Road,
which
is
an
arterial
here.
O
You
can
see
that
this
might
leave
a
little
bit
more
open
space
on
the
site
in
terms
of
the
preferred
massing
scenarios.
The
long-range
planning
committee
was
generally
supportive
of
the
potential
General
land
use
plan,
amendment
to
low
medium
residential
The
Guiding
principles,
which
we
just
reviewed
and
the
3D
modeling
options
that
we
just
shared.
Given
this
input,
staff
believes
that
all
three
scenarios
are
responsive
to
the
proposed
guiding
principles.
O
Scenarios
two
and
three
both
allow
for
bonus
density
to
realize
Community
benefits
that
may
be
sought,
such
as
Green
Building
benefits
and
then,
as
we
saw
of
these
two
scenarios
scenario,
three
might
allow
four
additional
open
space
as
the
building
mass
is
concentrated
along
the
arterial
and
for
all
of
these
scenarios,
staff
recommends
the
building
height
not
exceed
five
stories.
Given
the
surrounding
context,
and
I
should
note
that
preliminary
review
appears
to
show
that
the
number
of
projected
trips
would
be
supported
by
the
existing
Transportation
Network.
O
It's
of
course
important
to
note
that,
should
a
site
plan
project
be
filed,
there
would
need
to
be
a
full
Transportation
analysis.
A
much
more
detailed
analysis
staff
conducted
this
study
in
a
manner
that
applies
several
refinements
to
address
feedback
from
planning,
Commissioners
and
others
on
our
recent
special
General
and
use
plan
studies.
O
O
In
conclusion,
staff
recommends
adoption
of
the
resolution
to
accept
the
special
General
Lane
use
plan,
study
document
and
Adoption
of
the
resolution
to
advertise
future
public
hearings
on
a
request
to
change
the
amend
the
general
Angus
plan
from
low
residential
one
to
ten
units
per
acre
to
low
medium
residential
for
the
subject
site.
This
concludes
my
presentation.
Thank
you.
P
P
E
P
It's
okay?
Well,
good
evening,
everyone?
My
name
is
Clyde
McGraw
I'm,
vice
president
of
real
estate
for
Sunrise
Senior,
Living
I'm.
P
Sunrise
is
one
of
the
largest
providers
of
Senior
Living
in
North
America,
with
nearly
275
communities.
We
were
founded
over
40
years
ago
in
Northern
Virginia
and,
in
fact,
our
first
purpose-built
Sunrise
Community
was
sunrise
of
Arlington,
which
we
still
operate
today
and
which
we
will
be
discussing
this
evening,
while
Sunrise
provides
a
full
range
of
senior
housing
options
from
independent
living
through
skilled
nursing.
P
Now,
each
new
Sunrise
is
designed
to
fit
in
aesthetically
with
each
neighborhood
they're
built
and
to
be
much
more
reflective
of
the
local
design
vernacular,
for
example,
here
are
four
recent
Sunrise
projects
in
different
markets
across
the
country,
including
Newton
Massachusetts,
Burlingame,
California
and
Summit
New
Jersey.
Each
building
is
designed
to
fit
in
within
the
local
neighborhood.
P
P
We
would
invest
more
than
70
million
dollars
into
the
development
and
would
strive
to
integrate
the
building
into
its
surrounding
surroundings.
Through
architectural
design.
We
see
Sunrise
as
extensions
of
the
community
for
which
they
serve
by
engaging
with
local
schools,
religious
and
Community
programs.
P
Finally,
through
sunrises
living
with
generosity
program,
our
seniors
able
to
give
back
to
the
community,
for
example,
by
assembling
lunch,
lunch
bags
for
local
shelters
or
baby
blankets
for
local
hospitals
at
Sunrise,
we
put
the
health
and
well-being
of
our
residents
first.
In
fact,
Sunrise
is
the
first
and
largest
provider
in
the
senior
living
industry
to
achieve
the
prestigious
well
health
safety
rating
across
our
entire
portfolio,
which
reviews
our
ongoing
management
for
items
such
as
emergency
preparedness,
communication
with
our
residents
and
their
families,
and
our
cleaning
and
sanitation
procedures.
P
Sunrise
is
also
at
the
Forefront
of
Senior
Living
design.
The
last
two
years
we've
been
awarded
the
argentum
senior
living
by
Design
award
for
two
of
our
newest
communities
in
Northern
Virginia,
in
Old,
Town
Alexandria
and
in
Fairfax,
which
reviews
aspects
of
design,
Innovation
and
operational
excellence.
P
When
we
review
the
Arlington
Market,
we
find
there
is
a
significant
imbalance
between
the
available
Supply
and
needed
demand
for
our
type
of
building.
In
fact,
there's
not
been
a
new
senior
housing
project
bill
in
Arlington
County
in
over
20
years,
when
Sunrise
estimates
the
needed
Supply
within
just
three
miles
of
the
site.
We
estimate
a
need
of
approximately
1300
Assisted
Living
units,
while
only
276
exist.
Today,
it's
similar
when
we
look
at
the
needed
supply
of
memory
care
units
which
we
estimate
at
approximately
700,
while
only
about
100
units,
exist
in
the
market.
P
P
Unfortunately,
as
I'm
sure
everyone
can
imagine,
there
have
been
significant
changes
in
the
design
of
senior
housing
for
the
last
40
years,
which
has
rendered
the
existing
building
functionally
obsolete.
It
does
not
have
the
characteristics
that
are
expected
in
modern
senior
housing.
The
hallways
were
too
narrow.
The
bathrooms
were
too
small
difficult
to
access
and
there's
not
enough
common
space.
P
P
We've
met
with
our
neighbors
in
the
local
Civic
associations
many
times
and
have
heard
their
concerns
with
the
existing
site
that
we
believe
we
can
significantly
mitigate
through
Redevelopment.
Specifically,
we've
heard
concerns
regarding
insufficient
parking
on
the
site
and
the
lack
of
a
dedicated
loading
area.
A
Redevelopment
would
allow
us
to
significantly
increase
the
number
of
parking
spaces
by
putting
the
parking
below
grade,
as
well
as
creating
a
dedicated
loading
area.
P
We've
also
heard
concerns
heard
concerns
about
stormwater
Management
in
this
general
area
of
Arlington.
A
Redevelopment
here
would
comply
with
the
current
Arlington
County
stormwater
management
standards
to
help
alleviate
some
of
the
current
issues
in
the
area
compared
to
the
existing
building,
which,
when
Bill
likely
had
no
or
very
limited
stormwater
management
requirements.
P
I
do
want
to
point
out
that,
as
staff
has
mentioned,
the
glove
study
process
does
not
allow
for
a
detailed
discussion
of
building
design.
All
these
issues
that
I've
mentioned
will
be
discussed
in
a
future
4.1
site
plan
process
before
anything
is
built
at
the
site.
So,
while
we
cannot
talk
specifically
about
how
the
building
will
operate,
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
are
incorporated
into
the
glove
study
document
and
will
be
important
elements
of
any
future
building
design.
P
Here
we
have
a
conceptual
design
of
what
a
Redevelopment
of
the
site
could
look
like
you'll
notice
that
the
parking's
been
put
below
grade
with
access
off
of
20th
Street
for
our
neighbors
we've
heard
concerns
with
vehicular
access
off
of
20th
Street
versus
off
of
Glebe
Road
and
sunrise
is
open
to
studying
both
options
during
the
site
plan
review
process.
The
existing
building
is
three
stories
today,
and
our
proposed
Redevelopment
would
likely
be
three
or
four
stories
depending
on
the
final
massing
and
setbacks
Etc.
P
We
would
of
course,
work
with
our
neighbors
and
planning
staff
on
appropriate
design
and
height
during
the
site
plan
process.
We've
also
heard
concerns
regarding
speed
and
safety
Crossing
Glebe
Road
in
this
area.
While
this
is
outside
of
sunrises
purview,
we
certainly
are
very
open
to
Arlington
County,
introducing
speed
counting
measures
in
this
area
of
Glebe
Road.
P
Sunrise
is
also
committed
to
biophilic
design,
as
it's
very
important
for
our
residents.
This
includes
the
principles
of
biophilia,
including
providing
a
green
envelope,
nature,
inspired,
forms
and
shapes
providing
for
natural
light,
organic
patterns
and
processes,
Human
Relationships
to
Nature
and
sensory
experiences.
P
In
addition,
Sunrise
is
to
committed
to
tree
preservation
where
possible,
while
we're
hopeful
that
some
of
the
trees
in
the
exterior
of
the
site
can
be
preserved.
The
Practical
nature
of
Development
and
Construction,
including
putting
parking
below
grade
and
introducing
modern
stormwater
management
practices,
means
that
some
trees,
located
in
the
middle
of
the
site
or
with
extensive
root
structures,
may
not
be
able
to
be
maintained.
P
P
Finally,
we've
heard
from
many
residents
of
Arlington
County
regarding
the
need
and
desire
for
on-site,
affordable,
housing
beds,
affordable
housing
is
challenging
in
Senior
Living
because,
although
you
may
be
able
to
Discount
the
rent,
someone
pays
you
can't
discount
the
care
that
they
receive.
That
being
said,
we
have
studied
the
issue
here
extensively
and,
while
the
potential
density
of
this
site
would
not
feasibly
allow
affordable
beds
on
site
here,
we
are
currently
in
the
site
plan
review
process
for
our
proposed
Sunrise
of
South
Arlington
project
at
716,
South,
Glebe
Road.
P
Given
that
the
two
sites
are
less
than
three
miles
apart,
they
are
within
the
same
catchment
area
and
would
serve
the
same
general
population.
This
is
another
item
that
will
obviously
be
discussed
in
Greater
detail
during
any
site
plan
review
process.
But
given
the
questions
that
we've
received,
we
want
to
be
as
responsive
as
possible
at
this
point.
A
Q
Hi
everybody.
Can
you
hear
me.
Q
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you,
hi.
My
name
is
Kathy
Ginther
and
I'm
new
to
the
neighborhood
I
live
directly
across
from
sunrise
and
I
chose
this
house,
in
particular
for
the
quiet
street
and
I'm
frankly,
just
a
little
concerned
about
how
the
plans
could
change.
All
of
that
since
moving
here
I've
noticed
that
there
are
some
issues
with
Sunrise
that
I
think
will
likely
worsen.
If
this
plan
is
allowed
to
move
forward,
our
street
is
narrow
and
visibility
over
the
hill,
which
you
can't
fully
see
in
some
of
the
presentations
we've
looked
at
tonight.
Q
Visibility
over
that
Hill
is
reduced
in
both
directions.
From
my
vantage
point,
directly
across
from
Sunrise
I
often
observe
their
delivery
and
Landscaping
trucks
parking
illegally
in
front
of
their
building,
which
further
compromises,
visibility,
children
and
adults
walk
down
that
street
throughout
the
day,
and
the
walkability
of
this
neighborhood
is
at
risk
if
Sunrise
is
allowed
to
grow
in
size
and
create
a
garage
entrance
on
20th
Street
North.
In
addition,
I
have
some
concerns
with
the
draft
study
documents.
The
proposed
height
and
coverage
limits
are
unclear
in
one
place.
Q
A
height
limit
of
45
feet
is
put
forward
elsewhere.
A
limit,
a
limit
of
60
feet
with
less
coverage
is
discussed.
It'd
be
helpful
if
staff
could
clarify
these
limits,
which
will
be
Central
to
whether
the
structure
fits
with
the
existing
character
of
the
neighborhood
or
overwhelms
it.
The
issue
of
bonus
density
is
another
concern
to
my
knowledge.
This
possibility
has
not
been
has
not
been
raised
before
now.
In
my
view,
no
bonus
density
should
be
allowed
for
Elder
Care
Facilities.
Environmental
improvements
should
be
standardized
without
being
justification
for
bonus
density.
Q
Q
I'm
not
sure
how
much
time
I
have
left,
but
that
is
that's
pretty
much
all
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
move
on
to
the
next
speaker.
R
Good
evening
Madam
chair,
my
name
is
Ann
bodong
I'm
from
Arlington's
for
our
sustainable
future
and
we're
asking
the
Planning
Commission
to
consider
some
amendments
to
include
a
20
tree
canopy,
a
maximum
zoning
of
14-26
versus
ra
818,
some
storm
water
mitigation
inside
the
special
glove
and
only
Senior
Living
uses.
R
There's
a
lot
of
confusion
about
this
project
and
I.
Don't
think
I
have
enough
time,
but
just
I'll
go
into
a
few
details
from
the
staff
report.
In
January
there
were
notes
about
storm
water,
runoff
conditions
that
need
to
be
addressed
as
part
of
Redevelopment
asfs
that
this
be
incorporated
into
the
glop.
In
exchange
for
this
extra
density
that
the
applicant
is
seeking,
there's
concerns
about
tree
canopy.
R
The
special
glop
allows
a
higher
percentage
than
the
Chesapeake
Bay
Ordnance
preservation,
and
this
site
has
50
canopy
now
ASF
asks
that
the
special
glove
require
a
20
tree
canopy
on
this
site.
It's
only
one
acre,
but
we're
losing
a
lot
of
trees.
There's
a
lot
of
confusion
on
land
use
and
far
and
the
various
documents
they
go
from
far
of
1.25
to
1.5
to
1.75
across
the
models.
R
In
one
instance,
you
say:
the
owner
wants
85
units
we
have
about
57
now,
but
you're
modeling
over
150
units,
so
I
agree
with
the
previous
speaker
to
say
we
should
clear
up
this
confusion.
Let's
eliminate
the
confusion
instead
and
just
go
with
14-26,
which
is
a
cap
of
60
feet
for
the
density
you're.
Also,
we
were
asking
that
you
only
limit
this
for
senior
housing
uses
to
remove
some
confusion
about
flipping
for
multi-family
use.
R
Later,
there's
some
confusion
on
energy
plan
or
comprehensive
energy
plan
raising
a
30
year
old
building
releases,
captured
carbon
and
requires
carbon,
intense
inputs.
These
are
things
that
we
should
be
avoiding
so
again,
20,
trees,
14-26
is
maximum
density,
storm
water
mitigation
and
only
Senior
Living.
Thank
you.
S
Good
evening,
all
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
I'm
John
Musso,
an
Arlington
resident
and
government
Affairs
manager
for
the
Arlington
Chamber
of
Commerce
on
behalf
of
the
chamber,
I,
would
like
to
express
support
for
both
of
the
Motions
concerning
Sunrise,
no
sleep
bro
that
are
on
the
docket
this
evening,
as
well
as
support
for
the
project
overall.
As
mentioned
previously,
northern
Virginia
is
currently
suffering
a
shortage
of
senior
housing
units,
and
this
project
is
a
major
step
forward
in
addressing
this
issue.
S
I've
noted
this
facility
is
towards
the
end
of
its
operational
life
and
needs
additional
renovation
for
its
continued
operation,
and
this
project
would
allow
for
a
significant
increase
in
the
number
of
units
available
to
seniors.
Sunrise
has
been
an
integral
part
of
North
Arlington
for
nearly
40
years,
and
this
project
would
allow
them
to
continue
to
be
a
core
part
of
the
North
Arlington
Community
for
decades
to
come.
S
So
we
ask
that
you
vote
in
favor
of
accepting
the
glove
study
document
and
recommending
to
the
board
that
the
pro
the
glove
Amendment
hearings
be
advertised
and
then
at
this
project
goes
forward
supporting
the
project
as
a
whole.
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
T
Good
evening
Madam
chair
commissioners,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
raise
my
concerns.
I'm
Joanne
McKee
I'm,
the
next
door
neighbor
to
Sunrise
to
the
proposed
development
to
begin.
The
proposed
structure
in
its
various
configurations
is
proposed
by
applicant
and
staff
is
simply
too
big
for
the
site.
T
T
Sunrise
has
existed
as
part
of
our
neighborhood
for
over
35
years,
but
now
wants
to
intrude
and
have
an
oversized
presence,
putting
at
risk
what
we
built
here.
It
goes
beyond
who
gets
to
live
where
in
Arlington
and
how
many
beds
are
available
for
Elder
Care.
Here
it's
about
a
harmonious
coexistence
of
different
types
of
housing.
Why
must
we
accept
a
huge
commercial
building
that
doesn't
comport
with
any
of
the
guidelines?
T
The
county
purports
to
hold
dear,
affordable
housing
for
cost
burdens,
seniors
tree
canopy
preservation,
Watershed
awareness
as
it
impacts,
storm
water,
runoff,
safe
routes
to
school,
for
School,
Walkers
and
more
I
strongly
urge
the
Planning
Commission
to
put
the
brakes
on
this
application
for
Amendment
to
the
club
and
the
proposal
to
rezone
the
site
to
a
higher
density,
without
giving
serious
consideration
to
covenants
and
conditions
for
applicants
that
will
protect
not
only
our
neighborhood
and
properties,
but
those
of
other
Arlington
neighborhoods
that
will
be
similarly
affected
in
the
future.
Thank
you
very
much.
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Jason
Schwartz
and
we
definitely
need
more
housing
supply
for
our
seniors.
Just
a
couple
headlines
that
I
sent
in
my
presentation,
one
senior
cares
crushing
the
expensive
two.
The
U.S
Senior
housing
market
is
facing
the
supply
shortage
and
three
occupancy
recovery
is
fueled
by
healthy
demand
and
delayed
inventory
growth
for
seniors
housing.
We
definitely
need
this
desperately.
We
need
this
housing.
Northern
Virginia
had
the
six
largest
increases
in
Residence
ages,
65
and
over
among
the
50
largest
U.S
Metro
areas.
U
You
know
this
is
a
really
great
opportunity
to
add
key
housing
that
we
need.
This
site
is
located
in
a
great
location
to
add
more
housing
over
85
000
people
already
live
within
a
20
minute
bike
radius
and
this
location
is
on
Glebe
Road,
a
large
arterial
where
there's
been
a
33
percent
decline
in
traffic
over
the
last
decade.
This
site
is
just
an
eight-minute
bike.
Ride
from
the
Boston
station
development,
with
144
committed,
affordable
units,
only
eight
minute
bike
ride
away.
U
So
this
is
could
be
great
for
someone
who
can
live
in
this
development.
That's
that's
being
that's
almost
that's
nearing
completion
in
Boston.
They
can
bike
eight
minutes.
Work
here,
have
opportunities
for
Education
opportunities
to
send
their
kids.
This
is
enabling
future
growth
not
just
for
seniors,
but
for
people
to
come,
work
here
and
and
support
this
community,
and
this
site
is
going
to
be
extremely
beneficial
for
the
built
environment.
U
It's
going
to
create
a
more
walkable
and
pedestrian-centered
environment.
The
frontage
will
provide
buffer
and
against
the
loud,
noisy,
Road,
a
provider
buffer,
not
only
for
the
residents
and
the
green
space
that
they'll
newly
enjoy,
but
also
for
the
current
residents,
because
they'll
have
that
nice
buffer
along
Glebe
Road.
So
this
is
really
going
to
fit
well
within
the
urban
fabric.
It's
not
oversized
at
all.
It's
it's.
A
very
modest
increase
in
size.
I
wholeheartedly
support
it.
Thank
you
so
much.
V
So
they
just
simply.
We
amended
the
ordinance
allowed
the
use
in
the
categories
and
they
came
forward
with
their
with
their
use,
permit
the
danger
that
the
community
has
and
what
I
would
like
to
see
them
protected
from
is.
If
this
amendment
does
in
fact
get
granted
and
the
the
appropriate
zoning
to
follow
is
RA
818.
Well,
once
that
takes
place,
there's
no
guarantee
that
this
use
will
in
fact
be
done,
because
if
you
have
a
use
permit,
you
don't
have
to
utilize
it.
V
V
You
know
I've
been
doing
this
for
40
years
and
when
I
began
frankly,
I
think
Civic
associations
and
neighbors
probably
had
too
much
involvement
in
the
process.
I
think
that
what's
happened
lately
is
there's
not
enough,
and
so
I
would
respectfully
suggest
that
the
way
to
do
this
is
amend
the
ordinance
and
allow
it
in
R6
and
there's
no
danger
to
the
community
of
a
switch
in
use.
Thank
you.
W
Good
evening,
I'm
Cynthia
Schneider,
representing
the
Commission
on
Aging,
the
Commission
on
Aging,
supports
this
project
to
go
forward
at
this
time,
so
we're
in
support
of
both
actions
before
the
Planning
Commission
tonight.
W
As
previously
stated,
there
is
a
great
need
for
this
type
of
older
adult
housing
in
the
county,
and
we
appreciate
the
staff
recognize
this
in
amending
their
guiding
principles
for
the
project
being
one
being
to
prioritize
the
need
to
prioritize
senior
living
arrangements
because
of
the
need
for
senior
housing.
W
We're
the
Commission
on
Aging
is
also
appreciative
of
the
sunrise
developers,
taking
into
account
the
need
for
some
reduced
cost
units,
and
we
hope
that
it's
not
totally
off
the
table
for
this
particular
project.
But
we
continue
to
look
forward
to
working
with
you
as
planning
goes
forward.
So
thank
you.
X
Good
evening
my
name
is
Alice
Hogan
I'm,
with
the
alliance
for
Housing
Solutions
I,
wanted
to
Echo
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
I
heard
from
Jason
Schwartz,
as
well
as
from
Cindy
Schneider.
You
know
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
we
need
every
kind
of
housing
unit
in
Arlington
and
especially
affordability.
X
So
we
know
that
our
community
and
our
population
is
growing
very
very
quickly
and
one
of
the
biggest
segments
of
growth
is
actually
in
people
85
and
up
whom
we
are
expecting
to
increase
by
a
percentage
of
65
in
the
next
20
15
to
20
years.
So
we're
really
in
a
budget
in
a
crunch
for
housing
for
older
people,
and
we
know
that
our
current
stock
does
not
have
the
dis,
the
accessible
or
ground
level
entry
types
of
units
that
this
growing
population
will
need.
X
So
AHS
is
very
much
in
favor
of
this
Redevelopment.
It
sounds
like
we
could
have
85
to
100
or
even
this
evening,
perhaps
more
units
on
this
site.
It
does
seem
to
be
within
a
good
scale
for
the
for
the
area,
particularly
on
Glebe
and
keeping
in
mind
that
it's
just
a
stone's
throw
from
Langston
Boulevard,
where
a
lot
of
changes
and-
and
you
know,
high
intensity-
will
be
coming-
it's
very
close
to
a
church
and
a
school.
So
it's
it's
well
situated
in
a
community.
That's
not
exclusively
single
family!
X
Only
and
you
know
I
Echo.
What
Cindy
is
saying
in
the
Commission
on
Aging
that
wherever
possible,
if
we
can
get
any
affordability,
Within
These
senior
units,
we
know
how
expensive
this
kind
of
living
is
and
that
there
are
thousands
and
thousands
of
people
who
first
can't
find
a
spot
and
then
can't
afford
a
spot.
So
anything
we
can
do
to
try
to
to
cultivate
those
kind
of
opportunities
in
Arlington
is
crucial
for
our
population.
So
we
fully
support
the
Redevelopment
and
look
forward
to
continuing
conversations,
particularly
around
affordability.
Thank
you.
Y
Greetings,
my
name
is
John.
Sutter
I
represent
Leewood
civic
association.
Can
everyone
hear
me?
Okay,
okay,
so
the
problem
we
have
with
this
study
is
it's
really
two
studies,
the
applicant
initially
applied
for
assisted
living
facility,
rezoning
and
introdu,
and
the
county
introduced
multi-family,
and
that
causes
a
great
deal
of
concern
because
multi-family
is
not
restricted
in
any
way
to
be
Senior
care
Living,
so
and
not
only
that
we
were
confused
as
to
why
it
was
selected
because
there's
four
other
use
cases
for
our
18..
Y
So
if
you're
going
to
pick
one
selectively
and
it's
not
tied
to
Elder
Care
use,
then
why
not
pick
the
other
four
and
explore
them
as
well.
So,
in
addition
to
that,
the
study
cites
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
with
the
objectives
that
this
amendment
will
help
with
it.
Yet
it
fails
to
address
how
these
objectives
will
be
achieved.
The
applicant
offers
market
rate
housing,
as
they
have
stated.
Presumably
the
new
facility
would
cost
more
than
the
existing
facility
and,
in
effect,
would
actually
increase
the
cost
of
housing
for
seniors.
Y
So
the
other
assertion
is
that
there's
a
growing
need
for
seniors
to
be
able
to
Able
age
in
the
community,
but
there's
no
figures
in
the
study
to
back
this
up.
Everyone
keeps
saying:
there's
a
need
for
this.
However,
there
are
700
existing
Assisted
Living
units
within
a
three-mile
radius.
The
Jefferson
in
Boston
has
26
senior
condominiums
for
sale.
The
county
doesn't
have
any
way
of
measuring
vacancy
of
senior
care
housing
at
all.
I've
asked
about
this
I
asked
about
it
in
the
prior
meeting.
This
is
an
area
of
concern.
Y
You
got
to
make
sure
that
the
demand
is
there
and
that
people
can
afford
this,
so
so
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
So
the
other
thing
is
the
study
does
not
address
openly
mitigating
measures
in
a
single
section
of
the
document.
It
would
be
great
to
lump
these
all
together
and
understand
what
you're
going
to
do
to
ease
the
burden
on
gleibwood.
So
we'd
really
appreciate
that
the
study
requires
a
transportation
analysis,
the
analysis
performer,
the
county
is
modeled
and
not
based
on
on-site
specific
data.
Y
Y
Affordable
housing
is
not
really
addressed,
I
mean
it's
just
not
squarely
addressed
at
all.
It's
just
it's
discussed,
but
it's
not
there's
no
commitment
from
you
know
the
owner
or
the
applicant
no
metrics
to
support
the
demand.
You
know
there's
no
way
that
Arlington
County
currently
quantifies
how
much
housing
is
available.
Y
Consider
that
for
a
minute,
because
Arlington
has
found
itself
in
a
situation
where
there
are
over
supplies
of
other
land
use,
this
I'm
thinking,
retail
and
Commercial,
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
take
a
lesson
learned
here
and
make
sure
that
whatever
we
put
in
place,
we
don't
make
it
inaccessible
for
people
that
want
to
use
it
based
on
price
or
over
Supply,
no
concrete,
mitigating
measures
for
the
neighborhood
and
we
we
would
like
a
site-specific
transportation
analysis,
part
of
the
tier
two,
so
that
was
never
done.
Z
Hi
good
evening
my
name
is
Paul
Holland
I'm,
the
current
president
of
Waverly
Hills,
civic
association,
Waverly
Hills
Association,
is
located
immediately
across
Glebe
Road
from
the
site.
The
civic
association
has
not
taken.
The
board
has
not
taken
a
formal
position
on
the
project,
but
we
do
have
some
considerations
that
we
will
be
tracking
should
the
project
move
forward
this
evening.
Those
include
tree
preservation,
including
the
large
white
pines,
White,
Oaks
and
sycamores
that
are
located
on
the
site
there
is.
Z
There
was
one
that
was
recently
recently
fell
down
and
caused
a
power
outage
in
the
neighborhood.
Another
key
concern
for
the
civic
association
is
storm
water
management,
as
some
folks
I'm
sure
are
aware.
The
county
is
in
the
process
of
purchasing
single-family
Parcels
in
Waverly
levels
and
given
the
the
location
of
the
site
at
the
top
of
the
Watershed.
Z
We
are
very
conscious
of
the
potential
storm
water
impacts
on
our
neighborhood
speed
on
Glebe
Road
and
the
safety
for
pedestrians,
including
children,
walking
to
school,
or
we're
hoping
that
there
will
be
further
study
of
the
transportation
and
the
potential
for
maybe
even
a
Crossing
light
or
a
speed
camera
on
Glebe
we're
conscious
of
the
pros
and
cons
of
having
a
side
entrance
off
Glee
versus
20th
Road
and
the
parking
and
loading
consideration
associated
with
also
issues
with
managing
deliveries
and
services
to
the
site.
Z
The
last
two
issues:
architectural
design,
we're
strongly
in
favor
of
architectural
design
and
and
conscious
of
its
impact
on
the
residents
and
surrounding
homes,
including
the
scale
and
materials
and
tapering
and
finally,
as
many
affordable
senior
housing,
is
a
key
priority
for
our
neighborhood
and
issues
of
accessibility
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
the
perspective
and
considerations
of
Waverly
Hills
civic
association.
A
I
believe
we've
already
heard
from
the
other
commissions
we
had
aging
and
there's
another
commission.
Yes,
thank
you.
Does
Transportation
Commission
have
a
report.
A
In
that
case,
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
commissioner
schroll
as
chair
of
the
sprc.
Can
you
please
give
us
your
report.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
the
lrpc
heard
this
item
in
several
meetings
as
Miss
Rose
noted
I
did
circulate
a
memo
by
email
last
night
to
members
of
the
commission,
I
think
Miss
Rhodes
her
report
in
her
presentation
on
this
evening
due
a
fair
amount
to
kind
of
encapsulate
the
make
kind
of
key
issues
here.
There's
a
fair
amount
of
consensus
during
the
lrpc
process
that
allowing
a
senior
living
facility
to
redevelop
on
this
site
make
sense.
M
There
is
an
existing
use
here,
so
there
was
consensus
and
support
for
advertising
the
low
medium
residential
Club
designation.
In
addition
to
support,
for
you,
know,
advertising
the
study
document,
as
was
noted,
I
think
by
Miss,
Rhodes
and
also
by
the
applicant.
M
This
doesn't
disregard
some
of
the
nearby
neighbor
concerns
regarding
traffic
parking,
loading
site,
circulation,
production
access,
storm,
water,
tree
preservation,
height
and
transitions
to
say
a
document
actually
does
a
fairer
amounts
at
this
point
at
a
high
level
to
address
those
issues
and
and
note
them
for
concerns,
but
I'll
state
that
I
think
that
those
are
really
much
better
suited
to
be
addressed
at
sprc,
not
at
the
long
range
planning
level.
M
A
lot
of
these
are
more
fine-grained
things
like
the
transportation
study.
That
Mr
Sutter
noted
is
something
that
the
mmta
would
require
at
the
next
stage,
I
think
for
the
purposes
our
purposes
this
evening.
It
is
good
to
focus
on
whether
the
study
document
goes
far
enough
to
encapsulate
what
was
discussed
at
lrpc
and
in
the
kind
of
main
buckets,
and
would
would
that
set
us
up
for
a
robust
process
at
sprc.
M
The
kind
of
key
topics
that
I
think
are
worth
discussing
are
as
follows:
the
club
designation
itself,
The
Guiding
principles,
Building
height
and
design,
the
transportation
related
issues,
the
environment,
implementation
and
then
certainly
any
other
ones
that
people
would
have
so.
That
concludes
my
report.
Madam,
chair
and
I
I
deal
back.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
schroll.
So
with
that
in
mind,
the
topics
that
we
have
for
our
discussion
amongst
the
commission
are
glub
design.
Sorry,
glup
designation,
guiding
principles,
Building
height
and
design
Transportation
the
environment
implementation
in
a
catch-all
other.
Are
there
any
other
topics
that
any
Commissioners
would
like
to
move
to
add
to
that
list
or
stick
with
what
was
covered
I?
Yes,
I
can
read
it
again:
glup
designation,
guiding
principles,
Building
height
and
design,
Transportation,
the
environment
implementation
other.
It's
also
the
list
that
is
in
commissioner
schroll's
email.
A
Units,
okay
and
we
will
add
affordable
units
to
that
conversation
as
well.
Okay,
so,
let's
start
seeing
no
other
topics
to
be
added,
let's
start
with
glup
designation.
Would
anyone
like
to
be
recognized
on
that
item.
L
Thanks
a
quick
question
for
staff
and
I'm:
sorry,
if
I
I
didn't
see
it
in
the
staff
report
or
other
zoning
districts
considered
I'm
thinking,
specifically
like
an
SD
designation,
which
is
I,
believe
the
zoning
underlying
the
South
Arlington
Senior
Living
facility.
It's
daffodil
considered
an
SD
designation.
L
A
Sorry
chairs
privilege
follow
up
on
that.
Did
you
say
they
could
pursue
that
for
the
South
Arlington
property,
but
not
for
the
North
Arlington.
L
Madam,
chair
might
I
suggest
it
would
appear
that
counselor
for
the
applicant
might
wish
to
speak
on
this,
but
I
will
also
add
to
it
prior
to
speak.
If
you
would
give
me
the
moment,
this
is
particular
to
a
form
so
remember
we
are
going
to
Overlay
the
site
with
a
Glock
designation
within
the
glut
designation.
L
There
are
applicable
zoning
categories
that
one
can
opt
into
the
low
medium
residential
for
negle.
Up
designation
is
the
one
being
proposed
this
evening,
and
the
zoning
text
will
allow
particular
zoning
categories
for
the
applicant
and
the
board
to
consider
in
this
case
I
believe
we
have
an
RA
Dunning.
So
does
that
make
sense,
yeah.
AA
That
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
name
is
Kendrick
Whitmore
I'm
with
Venable,
commissioner
Hughes
to
your
question.
We
considered
a
number
of
different
potential
glove
designations
and
Associated
zoning
designations.
One
of
the
issues
with
the
SD
is
related
to
a
site
area.
There
are
certain
restrictions
on
sites
under
two
acres
in
the
SD
that
does
not
apply
to
the
South
Arlington
site,
which
is
over
two
acres.
This
one
is
at
just
over
one
acre,
so
there
would
be
certain
restrictions
there
in
that
zoning.
AA
That
would
make
this
a
difficult
site
to
build
on.
AA
Was
a
consideration?
I
mean
we
did
admittedly
file
this
two
years
ago.
So
all
the
discussions
that
we
have
had
since
then
are
not
top
of
mind,
but
I
know
that
that
was
a
consideration
in
taking
a
look
at
this
okay.
F
O
O
But
in
terms
of
some
of
the
conversation
about
the
confusion
over
low
medium,
you
know
in
a
potential
multi-family
development
yeah,
because
this
is
a
general
land
use
plan.
High
level
study.
We
need
to
evaluate
all
different
land
uses.
So
that
is
why
you
saw
in
the
modeling
we
saw
you
know
the
potential
for
a
multi-family
or
an
elder
care,
but
then,
as
a
result
of
what
we
heard
from
the
community
in
the
lrpc,
we
added
the
guiding
principle
stating
the
preference
strongly
for
Elder
Care
use.
F
G
I
I
think
that
I
commission
again
I
think
where
you're
what
you're
trying
to
get
to
is
is
how
do
we
ensure
going
forward
at
the
lrpc
stage,
or
you
know
at
the
stage
where
we're
at
that,
that
we
don't
end
up
with
an
amendment
to
the
glove
that
would
allow
something
other
than
the
project
that
we're
interested
in
right?
That
the
community
is
interested
in
I.
G
But
what
I
just
want
to
point
out
right
is
that
that
this
is
an
advertisement
that
that
the
action
upon
which
the
board
here
is
at
the
same
time
as
the
sprc
right.
So
we
actually,
you
know
we
don't
really
it
I
I,
think
that
I
I
don't
know
that
it
matters
a
whole
lot,
whether
the
conditions
are
applied
at
the
sprc
stage
or
at
the
lrpc
stage,
because
if
things
go
sideways
in
the
sprc
stage,
that's
still
before
the
board
formally
acts
on
any
change
to
the
glop
right.
M
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
would
just
like
to
concur
with
what
commissioner
Weir
was
saying,
which
is
that
you
know
nothing.
Nothing
happens
until
the
board
takes
action.
This
is
merely
an
advertisement
and
I
think
by
adding
that
preference
for
Elder
Care
into
the
study
document
that
it
does
hopefully
give
some
more
Assurance
to
the
neighborhood.
That
I
know
had
concerns
about
this
being
multi-family,
but
the
desire
expressed
in
the
long-range
planning
committee
was
for
Elder
Care
on
this
site.
M
The
reason
that
where
people
were
okay
with
this
coming
forward
was
because
of
the
existing
use
and
a
desire
to
maintain
it,
it
wasn't
to
see
Redevelopment
to
multi-family
generally.
That
was
not
the
ex
desire
expressed
among
members
of
the
lrpc,
so
we
just
wanted
to
provide
that
context
for
those
who
didn't
participate.
Thank.
O
O
L
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
really
clear
that
up
for
the
community,
because
I
think
you
did
a
great
job.
So
at
this
evening
we
will
recommend
to
the
county
board
and
the
County
Board
can
choose
to
advertise
a
possible
change
to
the
glove
study.
The
glove
map
itself
will
not
change
as
the
applicant
continues
to
forward.
They
may
come
forward
and
propose
a
a
particular
site
that
will
be
walked
through
at
the
sprc
plan
and
at
the
conclusion
of
that.
L
If
the
County
Board
agrees,
they
can,
at
the
exact
same
moment,
approve
a
site
plan
with
a
rezoning
and
the
actual
glove
change
map
in
three
separate
actions
that
go
forward
to
the
board
after
that
Community
process.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
all
walked
our
way
through
that
process
again,
so
we
know
what
we're
doing
tonight
so
this
evening,
all
the
board
is
doing
if
they
were
to
approve
this
application
is
to
indicate
the
possibility
that
an
acceptable
site
plan
could
come
forward
if
it
meets
the
General
price.
L
Your
own
guidelines
they
adopt
in
the
doctor's
half
plan
with
that.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Mr
Steinberg,
thank
you.
J
Thank
you
first
I'd
like
to
align
myself
with
my
fellow
Commissioners
here.
I
agree
that
this
any
action
we
take
here
tonight
is
not
making
a
certainty
for
anything
going
forward.
It's
simply
saying,
as
has
been
mentioned
within
the
realm
of
possibility,
that's
it
I
also
want
to
raise.
This
also
shows
the
flaws
of
the
lrpc
process.
J
We've
had
we've
been
up
here
for
other
lrpc,
the
results
of
other
lrpcs
and
every
single
one
of
them
has
the
same
issue
that
the
neighborhoods
come
forward
with
very
very
legitimate
concerns
concerns
that
we
also
acknowledge,
but
they
don't
get
addressed
in
the
lrpc
process.
They
are
part
of
the
sbrc
process.
It
it's
very
much
inside
baseball,
it's
very
frustrating
to
the
neighborhoods
and
I,
fully
appreciate
that
it
can
be
frustrating
to
us
too.
J
This
is
the
process
that
we
go
through.
Nothing
will
be
happening
until
we
go
through
a
full
sbrc
process
that
we
have
an
actual,
what's
called
a
4.1
plan
that
comes
from
the
applicant,
which
says
exactly
what
they're
going
to
be
building
and
how
they're
going
to
be
addressing
all
of
these
items.
We
then
get
to
vet.
J
Those
all
of
those
issues
which
again
are
legitimate
issues
I've
walked
that
neighborhood,
it's
a
great
neighborhood
and
I've
and
you're
right
about
the
topography,
you're
right
about
the
trees,
you're
right
about
the
loading
dog
or
where
the
loading
needs
to
be
the
sidewalks
all
of
those
things
there
absolutely
have
to
be
addressed.
We
will
not
ignore
those,
because
they
are
very
legitimate
issues
that
have
to
be
dealt
with
in
order
for
any
any
project
to
go
forward.
J
But
that
said,
at
this
stage
we
can't
address
those
they're,
not
they're,
simply
not
right.
This
is
a
very
high
level
review
of
the
glup
and
the
zoning
and
whether
they
are
possible
only
if
they
are
possible.
That's
all
we're
doing
here
tonight,
so
I
like
I,
said
I
want
to
concur
with
my
fellow
Commissioners
here
about
what
we're
doing
and
try
to
give
at
least
some
assurances
to
the
neighborhoods
that
this
isn't
over,
and
this
is
not
a
final
decision
by
any
means.
Thank
you.
A
AB
I
will
say,
having
sat
through
many
sprc's
later
that
the
original
plan
that
comes
in
is
oftentimes
very
much
changed
in
the
end,
based
on
your
input,
so
don't
be
discouraged
tonight,
but
please
hang
in
there
and
I
will
say
that
this
group
does
hold
all
the
things
that
commissioner
land
tell
me
just
said
at
a
very
high
level.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Begley.
Okay,
the
next
topic
is
guiding
principles.
Oh
you
wanted
the
last
topic.
Didn't
you,
commissioner,
Peterson.
I
Thank
you,
I
also
wanted
to
say,
as
the
sprc
chair.
While
we
might
not
be
getting
into
the
details
tonight
and
making
any
decisions
about
the
details
tonight,
we
did
all
hear
your
feedback
so
far,
and
one
of
us
will
be
the
project
chair
of
this
sprc
if
this
does
get
approved
tonight
and
by
the
County
board.
So
your
feedback
tonight
does
impact
what
will
happen
with
the
sprc
and
then
we'll
you'll
just
get
a
chance
chance
to
say
it
again
in
a
few
months
time.
I
A
F
Again,
this
is
something
that
would
probably
be
wisely
adhered
to
when
we
do
get
a
specific
development
proposal
that
comes
forward
with
reference
to
that.
This
was
the
sort
of
concern
that
was
raised
during
the
discussion.
O
There
is
a
recommend,
a
specific
recommendation
for
tapering
in
the
second
bullet
talks
about
the
four
stories
in
certain
areas
buffering
the
different
height
minimizing
Shadows
Etc.
O
F
D
I'll,
just
second
or
associate
myself
with
commissioner
garen's
comments,
I
think
I
read
the
text
and
I
saw
the
models
and
there
was
a
little
bit
of
disconnection
there.
So
I
think.
If
we
are
going
to
look
at
Shadow
studies,
you
know
the
massing
needs
to
be
towards
20th
and
Glebe.
That's
where
the
height
needs
to
be
and
then
taper
towards
the
neighbors.
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
wishing
to
be
heard
on
Guiding
principles,
okay,
Building
height
and
design,
which
I
think
could
also
be
a
place.
We
talk
about
tapering,
but
if
we've
already
generally
covered
that
I
think
as
a
general
sense
of
the
this
commission,
we
look
to
tapering
to
make
sure
that
we
are
fitting
as
best
we
can
within
the
surrounding
community.
So
I
think
that
tapering
will
continue
to
be
something
that
comes
up
again
with
this
project,
in
whatever
format
it
moves
forward.
If
and
when
that
happens,
yeah.
J
It
is
appropriate
that
we
cap
the
height
that
we
have
here
talking
about
at
most
50
feet
along
Glee,
Road
I,
think
that
is
that
is
correct,
and
we
should
continue
that
going
forward.
Give
at
least
those
assurances
we've
had
special
Club
studies
in
the
past,
where
we've
also
limited
the
height
going
forward
for
when
we
get
to
the
sbrc
stage.
F
I
want
to
align
myself
with
those
comments.
I
also
had
some
questions
about
the
height
being
in
Stories
versus
feet.
Thanks.
L
G
AD
Go
ahead,
I'm
quite
sure
where
this
is
Matt
Pfeiffer,
with
the
planning
division,
so
Building
height
is
measured
from
average
site
elevation
and
it
is
exclusive
of
mechanical
penthouses.
It
goes
to
the
main
building:
height
main
roof
height.
Excuse
me,
I'm,.
G
A
I
will
recognize
myself
for
transportation.
I
think
it's
important
that,
given
the
constraints
of
the
site
as
we
move
forward
and
I,
don't
want
to
get
into
sprc
territory
too
much,
but
I'll
give
myself
some
leeway,
because
I
can
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
look
at
both
access
opportunities
from
20th,
Street
and
North.
Glebe
and
I
am
pleased
that
the
applicant
indicated
a
willingness
to
do
so.
A
I
think
we
want
to
given
the
size
of
the
site
and
some
of
the
other
constraints
and
neighborhood
concerns,
and,
along
with
that,
we
look
at
what
would
be
best
in
both
scenarios
and
how
that
can
impact
I
do
also
want
to
recognize
that
I
am
pleased
to
hear
that
part
of
the
consideration
on
a
future
site
design
would
be
undergrounding
the
parking,
because
that
is
something
that
we
are
moving
towards
across
the
county
and
I.
A
Think
that
is
a
great
benefit
where
we
can
not
just
have
surface
parking
but
really
move
to
have
that
as
an
undergrounded
option.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
question
for
Miss
Rhodes
about
the
access
off
of
20th
Street
for
this
site,
given
that
it's
a
state
road
that
Glebe
Road
is
a
state
road
I'm
wondering
if
staff
has
had
any
conversations
with
the
state
on
on
that
at
this
stage
and
if
not,
if
you
could
speak
to
kind
of
when
in
the
process
following
the
following
of
a
4.1
staff,
might
have
those
conversations.
O
AE
Hi
good
evening,
everybody
that's
right
what
Margaret
had
said.
We
typically
coordinate
with
VDOT
somewhere
in
the
4.1
approval,
to
give
him
a
heads
up
once
we
have
a
fully
vetted
mmta.
So
it's
a
multimodal
traffic
assessment
and,
depending
on
the
changes
to
the
access
to
the
site,
we
either
give
them
a
cursory
review
or
the
applicant
will
have
to
work
with
VDOT
for
some
type
of
access
management
exception.
C
M
That's
helpful,
so
yeah
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
in
the
neighborhood
know
and
other
you
know,
interested
parties
that
you
know
this
is
not
necessarily
fully
in
the
County's
hands.
So
even
if
the
county
thought
this
was
a
good
idea,
they
do
need
to
negotiate
with
VDOT
on
this
and
so,
and
that
is
something
that
has
happened
along
Glebe
Road
for
other
sites,
so
that
wouldn't
be
duped,
as
particular
to
this
site.
But
something
to
consider
you
know
has
moved
to
the
next
process.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
schroll
anyone
else
wishing
to
be
recognized
on
Transportation,
okay,
the
environment.
L
Commissioner
Hughes
thanks
first
question:
I
have
is
for
the
applicant,
so
this
is
your
first
building
and
it
was
built
40
years
ago.
Correct.
Is
that
right.
P
Yes,
it
was
our
first
purpose-build
building,
they
operated
a
couple
single-family
homes
as
assisted
living,
but
this
was
the
first
purposely
designed
and
built
Assisted
Living
ability
that
Sunrise
built.
L
And
you
generally
I
presume,
have
engineering
studies
by
professionals
to
determine
life
cycle
awareness
of
your
buildings
and
how
they're
doing
is
that
correct?
Do
you
perform
an
annual
maintenance
or
regime
or
a
five-year
plan
to
determine
maintenance
needs
and
Rehabilitation
and
recapitalization
requirements
of
buildings?
Yes,.
L
So
is
this
building
reaching
its
sort
of
end
of
service
life
because,
generally
speaking
with
stick
Built
construction,
which
I
assume
these
are
all
stick
build
construction
somewhere
between
40
and
50
years
of
major
recapitalization
is
generally
required.
That's.
L
K
L
Thank
you,
so
I
just
want
to
point
this
out
that
we
all
hate
change,
but
the
change
in
our
community
is
required
by
generally
speaking,
how
the
methodology
of
construction
is
done
and
by
building
and
stealing
and
concrete
in
the
future,
it'll
be
very
less
likely
that
you'll
redevelop
that
site
in
40
to
50
years
and
instead
my
own
daughter,
who's.
Eight
will
be
a
very
old
lady
by
the
time
you're
back
to
bringing
the
banker
to
the
the
building.
L
F
Garen,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
unsurprisingly,
I'm
going
to
weigh
in
and
encourage
you
to
retain
as
many
of
your
mature
trees
as
you
can.
F
They
serve
as
a
nice
buffer
to
the
community
and
the
condition
that
they're
there
also
I,
guess
I'd
like
a
little
clarification
on
the
comment
that
I
heard
that
there's
50
percent
tree
canopy
coverage
now
we're
only
requiring
20
percent
I
do
know
that
we
have
some
limitations
as
accounting
at
Dylan
roll
State
as
to
how
much
we
can
require
so
I
I,
don't
know
if
staff
can
weigh
in
on
that,
but
I
would
certainly
encourage
you
to
add
as
much
Greenery
as
possible.
It
sounds
like
in
your
presentation.
F
That's
part
of
your
plan,
one
of
the
things
that
we
encouraged
when
we
brought
forward
the
concept
of
biofilia
before
the
county
adopted.
The
resolution
to
join
the
biophilic
cities
network
was
that
tree
canopy
is
a
laudable
goal,
but
a
layered
landscape
can
also
provide
a
lot
of
viable
Greenery
on
site,
providing
a
lot
of
the
same
benefits
that
people
get
from
regular
access
to
Nature.
So,
yes,
your
canopy
trees,
but
also
your
understory
trees.
F
Your
Woody
shrubs,
your
Vines
and
so
on,
and
then
just
was
there
just
a
misunderstanding:
Ms
Rhodes
with
the
requirement
on
the
tree
canopy
or
with
the
statement
that
right
now,
there's
50,
but
we're
only
going
to
require
20
percent.
O
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
that
further,
but
we
would
make
sure
that
any
regulations
are
complied
with
through
the
site
plan
review
process,
but
in
terms
of
the
high
level
guidance
that
we
have
in
our
study
document
we're
encouraging
the
retention
of
trees,
where
possible,
additional
new
large
canopy
trees
should
be
planted.
O
Green
spaces
and
Landscaping
are
important
for
visual
noise,
attenuation,
buffering,
softening
transitions,
supporting
Wildlife
flora
and
fauna,
opportunities
for
conservation
of
trees
Etc,
but
in
terms
of
a
specific
number
I
think
that
that
will
be
something
that's
determined
through
the
site
plan
review
process.
I
see
the
urban
Forest
master
plan
recommends
25
tree
canopy
for
urban
residential
sites
such
as
this,
but
again,
I
think
a
definitive
number
would
need
to
either
be
determined
by
Des
regulations
or
Chesapeake
Bay
regulations
or
whatever
pertinent
regulations
there
are
and
or
through
the
negotiations
through
the
sprc
process.
Thank.
F
J
And
I
think
we
can
also
segue
into
stormwater,
because
that's
Environmental,
yes,
this
and
you
know
I
walk
the
side.
Yet
this
is
a
very
very
it's
the
high
point
of
the
neighborhood.
J
There
is
definitely
storm
water
issues
throughout
this
this
area,
as
Mr
Holland
mentioned,
where
is
going
to
be
flowing
down,
it's
a
very
steep
slope,
moving
away
from
this
I'm
assuming
that,
given
that
this
is
a
25-year
plus
old
project
that
back
then
storm
water
was
simply
not
considered
the
way
it
is
now
so
I
am
assuming
also
that,
however,
we
redevelop
this,
whether
it's
this
or
somebody
else,
there
will
be
a
much
more
robust
stormwater
plan
than
exists
right
now
on
that
property
and
that
we
will
not
be
having
masses
of
water
flowing
off
worse
than
what
happens
now
and
in
fact
it
should
be
dramatically
better
than
what
there
is
now
you
know
we
don't
have
somebody
from
Des
here,
but
you
know
we
have
significantly
tightened
up
our
storm
water
requirements
over
the
past
25
years.
J
This
will
have
to
comply
with
the
Chesapeake
Bay
ordinance,
so
we
have
numerous
additional
standards
in
place
that
did
not
exist
when
this
original
building
was
built.
So
stormwater
will
be
a
very,
very
large
part
of
this
plan.
Going
forward
that
will
be
considered
at
sprcu
stage,
am
I
correct
on
those
statements.
V
AB
A
Before
I
go
to
Commissioners,
Harley
I
will
also
align
myself
with
the
tree
preservation
comments.
I
live
somewhat
close
to
the
North
Glebe
location
and
I
was
very
sad
when
the
very
large
tree
went
down.
M
Yeah
I
think
we've
already
kind
of
covered
that
topic,
which
was
that
commissioner
Weir
went
through
about
how
you
know
the
implementation
of
this
is
something
that's
delayed.
You
know
that
we're
really
advertising
the
the
future
Club
amendment
I
think
it's
just
making
sure
that
we
cover
that
ground
and
I
think
it's
already
covered.
A
AB
P
The
residents
that
are
there
now
will
be
able
to
move
into
other
Sunrise
facilities
in
the
area
and
then
once
the
building
is
rebuilt,
they'll
be
welcome
to
come
back.
A
I'm
gonna
ask
a
follow-up
question
to
commissioner
I:
imagine
that
you've
done
this
at
other
Sunrise
locations
before
so
there's
some
sort
of
a
streamlined,
very
helpful
process
for
these
folks,
because
I'm,
a
young
adult
and
moving
is
traumatic
and
I.
Can't
imagine
it's
going
to
be
like
more
fun
having
to
do
it
much
older
Okay.
So
that's
like
there's
a
good
process
for
that.
The.
P
Answer
is
yes,
it
is
something
we've
done
in
several
instances
and
we
do
have
a
very
thorough
process.
For
example,
the
existing
Sunrise
of
Fairfax
was
also
one
of
our
original
buildings,
almost
four
years
old.
What
built
that
was
redeveloped
a
few
years
ago
into
a
modern
steel
and
concrete
building,
and
this
process
was
put
in
place
for
the
current
residents,
where
relocated
other
sunrises
and
then
welcome
back
to
after
Construction.
P
The
instruction
timeline
here,
of
course,
is
not
set
up
but
18
to
24
months.
Okay,
in
addition,
I'll
just
mention
that
once
we
had
more
surgeon
going
forward
with
the
process,
we
would
of
course
stop
welcoming
new
residents
into
the
facility.
So
at
some
point
there
would
naturally
be
less
people,
because
we'd
stop
moving
people
in
so
less
people
would
have
to
move.
A
P
I
Peterson
I
have
a
question
about
implementation,
which
is
just
that
Mr
McGraw
I
know
you
mentioned
wanting
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and
that's
important
to
you.
So
do
you
currently
have,
or
will
you
have
a
liaison
for
this
process
where
neighbors
can
call
you
and
ask
questions
and
or
report
vendors
who
are
illegally
parking
on
the
street
so
that
we
can
get
those
situations
resolved
quickly?.
P
Absolutely
the
community
is
welcome
to
reach
out
to
me
personally
anytime
and
of
course,
our
existing
team
on
site,
including
the
executive
director,
are
also
always
available
to
knock
on
the
door.
Make
a
phone
call
I'm
happy
to
provide
her
information
as
well.
So
if
there
are
existing
issues,
they
can
reach
out
to
the
community
directly.
A
Thank
you
any
other
topics
regarding
implementation:
okay,
let's
go
to
affordable
housing
and
then
last
will
be
kind
of
other
as
a
catch-all,
if
anything
because
it
wasn't
covered.
Yes,.
N
Hi,
yes,
thank
you.
This
may
be
out
of
scope,
so
it's
more
so
earlier
on
in
the
process.
But
I
am
curious
for
the
applicant
I
understand
that
you
mentioned
that
you
can
lower
rents,
but
you
can't
lower
the
price
of
care
and
that
you
are
going
to
potentially
put
some
affordable
units
for
more
of
those
to
be
in
South
Arlington,
but
not
in
the
North
Arlington
location.
Is
that
correct.
P
It's
something
we're
currently
discussing
with
staff.
Yes,
okay,.
N
I
turning
to
me
because,
perhaps
going
to
keep
emulating
the
North
First
South
Dubai
Where,
You
Are,
putting
this
lower,
you
know
affordable
units
in
the
South,
but
not
in
the
North
and
yet
you're
asking
for
increased
density
in
the
north.
So
you
know
if
we're
talking
about
economies
of
scale,
wouldn't
it
allow
if
you
allow
for
a
higher
density.
Wouldn't
it
also
allow
you
for
more
affordable
units
to
be
in
the
northern
North
Arlington
location.
P
It's
a
very
fair
question,
so,
even
with
the
density
that
we're
requesting
it's
still
in
reality,
a
very
small
building,
at
least
for
new
Sunrise
standards,
I
think
our
requested
density
is
only
76
to
78,
000
square
feet
and,
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
these
buildings
are
extremely
expensive
to
build
and
to
operate
and
so
that
size
building.
Once
you
get
below
a
certain
amount
of
market
rate
units,
it
no
longer
becomes
feasible.
P
So
in
this
case
we
have
a
very
low
amount
of
density
compared
to
our
normal
projects
in
South
Arlington,
where
we
have
more
density
available,
the
project
there
could
absorb
affordable
units
while
still
allowing
the
project
to
be
feasible.
In
addition,
the
two
sites,
although
technically
yes,
North
and
South
Arlington,
are
in
fact
less
than
three
miles
apart
they're
on
the
same
road,
and
so
we
would
consider
that
to
be
the
same
catchment
area
just
to
serve
the
same
general
population.
So.
N
AA
Sorry,
just
to
add
one
thing:
I
mean
we
this
site,
irrespective
of
what
we
talk
about
here
today,
will
still
be
subject
to
the
County's,
affordable
housing
conditions
in
the
zoning.
So
any
any
project,
that's
over
a
1.0,
far
is
subject
to
the
requirements
to
either
pay
NVA
if
fund
provide
units
on
site
or
off-site
elsewhere.
AA
So
it's
it's
kind
of
in
that
context
that
we're
through
of
that
portion
of
the
ordinance
that
we
are
talking
about
this
use
of
potentially
some
more
beds
in
the
South
to
to
help
fulfill
that
obligation.
That's
that's
generated
on
the
north,
but
it
is.
It
is
something
that's
provided
for
in
the
in
the
ordinance
not
used
very
frequently,
which
is
why
we're
having
a
lot
of
discussion
with
staff
about
it.
But
it
is
there.
It
does
exist.
N
L
You
I
want
to
continue
this
conversation
first
of
all,
for
clarifying
for
the
record
since
counselor
for
the
applicant
chose
to
bring
up
the
existing
zoning
ordinance.
There
are
three
options
for
all:
categories
of
options:
on-site
units
nearby
units
and
cash
and
almost
exclusively
nearly
every
development.
In
the
eight
years
I've
been
on.
This
commission
has
chosen
cash
unless
they
are
an
affordable,
housing,
non-profit
developer,
who
chooses
to
do
the
on-site
units,
which
is
just
a
method
of
their
man,
how
they
work
so
I
want
to
make
that
for
the
record
I.
L
Second,
the
commissioner's
comments
and
want
to
go
further
on
them.
L
If
you
don't
mind
and
the
question
for
staff
now,
let's
just
talk
about
the
current
thing
we
heard
from
the
applicant
this
evening,
which
was,
let
me
be
sure,
I
understand
this
South
Arlington's
senior
Sunrise
living
facility,
which
is
a
glut
site
assembly
public
requesting
a
rezoning
for
SD,
which
is
a
Buy
Right
Choice
within
that
existing
glove
category
and
we're
hearing
this
evening,
a
rezoning
and
a
reglapping
and
a
reglaping
is
the
only
time
in
a
residential
building
where
we
have
the
I,
don't
know
the
best
word
to
use
it
influence
to
ensure
that
on-site,
affordable
units
are
delivered
with
a
project.
L
L
So
I
won't
hear
this
site
when
it
comes
before
this
major
commission.
I
will
simply
state
that
I
I'm
almost
can
count
I
suspect
on
the
toes
and
fingers
on
the
Commissioners
at
the
table.
The
number
of
affordable
units
that
we
have
that
are
located
both
north
of
Langston,
Boulevard
and
north
of
I-66,
and
this
is
almost
in
those
two
categories.
L
It's
entirely
different,
since
this
tracks
entirely
different
parts
of
the
community
and
entirely
different
issues
that
are
resorted
so
I
hope
staff
thinks
carefully
about
how
we
take
this
forward.
I,
don't
plan
to
support
this
evening's
position,
I
plan
to
abstain,
I
almost
admit
the
no
and
I
might
be
convinced
by
my
cat.
L
My
questions
from
my
fellow
Commissioners
this
evening,
but
the
point
is,
is
that
staff's
failure
to
come
forward
with
either
a
strong
statement
of
how
affordable
housing
will
be
part
of
Sunrise
seniors
plan
for
an
inclusive
community
in
areas
where
it's
otherwise
not
provided
or
or
some
other
method?
I,
don't
see
it
I,
don't
see
it
in
this
plan.
So
thank
you,
commissioner.
Steinberger
and
I
yield
the
floor
unless
staffs
commission.
AC
Yeah
I
I
can
just
follow
up
on
one
point:
I
mean
we.
We
don't
have
a
specific
principle
looking
for
affordable,
Elder
Care
in
this
project,
but
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
that
there
is
a
study
that
the
county
will
be
initiating
to
look
at
how
to
facilitate
more
affordable,
Elder
Care
units,
and
there
is
a
bullet
point
in
the
study
document
that
notes
that
further
guidance
may
be
forthcoming.
That
could
inform
the
review
of
potential
site
plan.
AC
So
at
this
time
we
felt
it
was
premature
to
come
out
with
a
specific
policy
statement
on
affordable
housing
in
an
elder
care
use,
but
don't
but
but
certainly
kind
of
included
it
as
a
placeholder
once
there's
more
specific
guidance
that
could
inform
a
site
plan.
J
Yeah,
this
is
something
that
I've
noticed
in
the
newspapers
a
few
in
the
past
month
or
so
about
Elder
Care
you're.
You
are
charging
Market
rates,
the
unit
and
the
care
are
all
balled
up
into
one
one
price
is
that
correct.
P
No,
they
are,
they
are
charged
separately.
They.
J
P
To
be
perfectly
honest,
the
operations
of
how
that's
handled
are
beyond
my
my
purview
and
expertise
of
the
company,
but
well
before
that
was
to
happen.
They
have
a
financial
review
of
all
of
our
residents
and
we
have
many
options
to
reduce
costs
for
residents,
including
moving
from
a
two
bedroom
to
a
one
bedroom
to
a
studio.
We
also
have
a
number
of
units
that
are
shared
by
seniors,
which
brings
the
cost
down
significantly,
so
we're
often
able
to
find
that
there
are
creative
ways
to
allow
Bill
to
stay
in
place.
J
Well,
we're
going
to
want
to
know
more
about
that
going
forward
if
we
get
to
the
Espress
sbrc
stage,
because
that's
part
of
affordability,
when
somebody
does
reach
that
point,
there
were
some
newspaper
stories
recently.
You
know
with
with
definitely
horror
stories
about
that.
So
how
you
deal
with
that-
and
maybe
some
statistics
on
that
will
be
very
useful
in
our
looking
at
these
applications
and
that's
for
actually
for
both
sunrises.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
tell
me:
okay,
yes,
commissioner
Begley
yeah
I,
just
wanna.
AB
Expand
on
commissioner
and
tell
me
so
the
these
units,
this
place
will
be
at
market
rate.
AB
So
if
we're
lucky
enough
for
those
of
us
who've
had
financial
planners
and
have
worked
our
butts
off
and
hopefully
have
a
big
enough
retirement
account
that
we
can
afford
this,
but
studies
are
showing
that
that
is
becoming
less
and
less
likely,
especially
in
an
expensive
place
like
this.
So
it's
it's
almost
unconscionable
to
not
be
thinking
about
affordable
units
here
and
you're,
going
to
hear
a
lot
more
about
that
as
this
process
goes
on,
so
I
highly
encourage
you
to
reconsider
that.
Thank
you.
I
I
have
a
follow-up
question
when
we're
talking
about
affordable
units,
either
on
this
site
or
at
the
Sunrise
South
site.
Does
the
affordable
aspect
only
apply
to
the
rent
aspect
of
it
and
it
wouldn't
apply
to
discounted
Medical
Services,
because
I'm,
just
imagining
that
somebody
who
qualifies
for
affordable
housing,
probably
isn't
going
to
have
the
wherewithal
to
pay
full
price
for
the
medical
services?
So
then
nobody
nobody's
going
to
use
those
rooms
they're
just
going
to
sit
empty
because
they
can't
pay
for
the
more
expensive
portion
of
this.
This
deal.
AA
AA
What
we
use
as
the
metric
is
is
the
ability
for
people
at
a
certain
Ami
to
afford
the
rent
I,
don't
know
how
that
how
that
gets
calculated
and
rolled
in
it's
certainly
from
our
perspective,
made
the
calculus
more
complicated
I,
don't
know
if
the
the
study
that
Miss
Brown
alluded
to
will
take
that
into
account.
But
but
honestly,
we
don't
have
an
answer
for
that.
A
All
right,
I'm
going
to
recognize
myself
I
think
this
has
been
a
productive
initial
conversation
among
the
commission
and
I
appreciate
the
applicant's
willingness
to
engage
in
this
conversation.
I
understand
that
it
is
very
early
to
be
knowing
what
that
looks
like
and
that
when
it
comes
to
affordable
housing
options
for
the
type
of
service
and
site
that
we're
discussing
it
is
more
complicated
and
there
are
some
factors
that
there
may
not
be
easy.
Answers
for.
A
As
you
know,
the
the
project
you
know
if
an
sprc
does
develop
for
the
North
Glebe
site,
you
know,
as
we
move
forward
with
the
you
know,
discussions
for
the
South
Glebe
site
and
I
think
that
I
appreciate
having
that
conversation
in
an
open
manner.
I,
don't
know
that
it's
going
to
change
the
hearts
and
minds
of
very
many
Commissioners,
and
you
know
on
this
bench-
dice
whatever,
but
I
do
think
that
it
is
an
important
conversation
to
be
had
and
I
appreciate
that
it
has
started
this
evening.
G
Well,
this
is
a
question
for
staff
I'm
thinking
about
this
project
in
in
not
in
Con,
in
in
the
context
of,
but
in
conjunction
with
the
the
YMCA
project
and
some
of
the
houses
of
worship
that
have
redeveloped
recently
and
a
Common.
G
Thread
is
facilities
that
are
surrounded
on
two
or
three
sides
by
low
density
residential
that
were
built
in
the
80s,
give
or
take
a
half
decade
and
are
and
whose
buildings
are
coming
up
on
on
end
of
life
and
are
likely
to
want
to
continue
using
offering
the
same
program
when,
when
the
building
comes
up
on
end
of
life,
but
are
are
almost
certainly
like.
G
These
projects,
like
like
the
ones
that
I've
mentioned
almost
certainly
going
to
Aspire
to
the
more
urban
form
and
and
may
or
may
not
have
I
ideas
for
how
to
finance
that.
G
Or
just
want
to
provide
more
of
what
they're
providing
and
where
the
expectations
for
zoning
don't
match
and
fruit
for
land
use
don't
match
the
urban
form
that
these
buildings,
you
know
that
that
are
coming
up
on
end
of
life
are
going
to
look
like
and
I
I
I'm
not
expecting
an
answer
to
the
question
tonight,
but
I
but
I
I
can't
help
but
wonder
how
many
more
of
these
kinds
of
projects
are.
G
We
going
to
see
how
many
you
know
how
many
facilities
were
built
in
in
the
80s
and
are
going
to
not
have
the
open-air
parking
parking
lot
and
and
become
a
much
bigger
whatever
it
is,
and
my
request
of
staff
is
that
you
all
put
some
time
into
thinking
about
whether
or
not
that's
a
trend
that
we're
likely
enough
to
face
that
we
should
be
mindful
of
some
Sops
and
or
trying
to
identify
the
population
of
potential
future
projects.
G
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
move
on
anything
else
in
the
other
category,
okay,
commissioner,
schroll,
do
you
have
a
motion.
M
I
do
Madam
chair,
I
have
two
separate
ones,
so
I'll
move
the
first
one
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
a
County
Board
adopt
the
resolution
to
accept
the
tooth
2000
North
Glebe
roads
sunrise
in
your
living
special
General
land
use
plan
study
document,
as
contained
within
the
staff
report,
dated
April
24th
2023.
A
Thank
you
moved
by
commissioner
schroller
seconded
by
commissioner
and
tell
me,
commissioner
schroll.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion.
M
A
Commissioner
Begley,
are
you
seeking
recognition?
Oh
okay,
oh
you're,
just
getting
ready
to
vote
okay,
seeing
no
hands
raised
for
discussion
on
the
motion.
We
will
move
to
the
vote.
Commissioner
Begley.
How
do
you
vote.
G
A
Commission
Lynn
tell
me
I,
commissioner
Peterson
aye,
commissioner
sarley.
E
A
N
Inflection
points,
I
abstain,.
A
Abstain.
Okay,
commissioner,
schroll
bye
and
I
will
vote
I
as
well.
The
motion
passes
eight
to
one
with
one
of
abstention
and
commissioner
schroll,
you
indicate
you
have
a
second
motion.
M
Yes,
Madam
chair
I,
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
resolution
to
the
staff
report
dated
April
24
2023
to
advertise
future
public
hearings
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
County
Board
on
dates,
concurrent
with
those
for
consideration
of
the
future
site
plan
and
rezoning
applications
to
consider
a
glup
Amendment
from
low
residential
one
to
ten
acre
units
per
acre
to
low
medium
residential
for
the
area
located
at
the
Northwestern
corner
of
North
Glebe
Road
and
20th
Street
North.
A
Thank
you
motion
is
made
by
commissioner
schwall
and
seconded
by
commissioner
Lynn.
Tell
me:
would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion,
commission
control.
A
Understood
would
anyone
like
to
speak
to
this
motion?
Okay,
then
we'll
move
to
the
vote,
as
commissioner
Begley
is
ready.
I
can
tell
commissioner
Begley.
How
do
you
vote
aye,
commissioner
Hughes
abstain,
Commissioner
Karen
aye,
commissioner
Ware
aye
commissioner
and
Tommy
aye,
commissioner
Peterson
aye,
commissioner
sarley
aye,
commissioner
Guevara.
A
It
yeah
understood
I,
follow
commissioner
schroll
hi
I
will
vote
I
as
well.
The
vote
passes.
The
motion
passes
eight,
nothing,
two
abstentions,
any
other
motions,
commission
control
or
anyone
else.
A
Oh
before
we
deal
with
minutes
and
such
things,
we
do
want
to
recognize
that
we
have
folks
coming
and
going
onto
the
commission
coming.
Commissioner
Guevara
hello,
I'm
gonna
get
better
at
that.
Thank
you.
This
is
her
very
first
commission
meeting,
so
welcome
we're
very
excited
to
have
some
new
blood
yay
because
we
are
losing
some
blood,
so,
commissioner
Hughes
and
commissioner
schroll.
This
is
each
of
their
final
meetings
this
evening,
commissioner
schroll
is
virtual.
Commissioner
Hughes
is
right
there.
A
A
I
know
this
company,
because
I
knew
the
people
founded
it
anyway,
so
yeah,
there's
that
so
have
cookies
pass.
There
should
be
and
I'm
supposed
to
make
a
motion
about
minutes
or
no
someone
else
is
supposed
to
make
a
motion.
Can
someone
can.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
commissioner
Shirl
and
commissioner
Hughes
I've,
actually
written
down
a
few
notes,
so
bear
with
me
here
so
I
want
to
thank
you
on
behalf
of
all
of
us,
for
your
eight
years
of
service,
eight
years
leading
public
engagement
processes
welcoming
the
community
shaping
development
for
the
better
to
include
unheard
voices,
accommodate
multiple
perspectives
and
balance,
limited
resources,
you've
both
displayed
a
positive
attitude
and
professionalism
and
inspired
all
of
us
here
to
give
our
best
you've
been
integral
to
improving
our
commission's
relationship
with
the
Community
Trust
and
the
engagement
process
and
creating
developments
in
Open,
Spaces,
public
and
private
that
are
better
for
your
involvement.
F
You've,
both
distinguished
yourselves
as
leaders
in
this
environment,
stewards
of
our
public
resources
and
tirelessly
living
giving
of
your
time
and
thoughts
and
I
know
one
of
our
former
chairs.
One
of
our
colleagues
had
tracked
his
hours
the
year
he
was
chair
and
he
estimated
800
hours
of
work
on
a
PC.
So
we
know
this
is
a
lot
of
work.
We're
here
with
you.
F
So
during
their
tenure
James,
you
served
on
Transportation
Commission
led
the
lrpc
more
than
a
year,
including
chairing
special
clubs
and
shared
many
many
sprcs
and
served
as
Vice
chair
and
chair
and
Stephen.
You
led
the
OG
for
years
and
many
many
many
sprcs
so
and
even
through
all
of
that,
you
both
met
serious
milestones
in
your
own
lives.
While
you
were
on
here
James
you
got
married
when
you
were
on
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
bought
a
house
changed
jobs
had
a
baby
and
Stephen.
Likewise,
you've
expanded
your
family.
F
Now
you
have
three
beautiful
children
and
a
dog
and
we're
working
on
your
house
so
very
proud
to
have
you
both
as
Community
leaders
the
last
eight
years
and
to
work
with
you
and
happy
to
have
had
your
companionship
and
friendship
on
here
as
well
and
finally,
I
know.
This
is
not
the
last
step
in
your
work
as
public
servants
and
look
forward
to
seeing
all
the
great
things
that
you
both
go
forward
and
do
next.
So
thank
you.
A
J
Yeah
I
mean
I
certainly
want
to
align
myself
with
everything
that
commissioner
Garin
said,
but
at
two
things
one
for
each
for
commissioner
schroll
being
our
resident
parliamentarian
has
been.
Certainly
as
when
I
was
chair,
it
was
a
boon
to
have
you
there
as
a
backstop
to
make
sure
things
were
being
done
right.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
J
In
addition
to
all
the
other
things
you've
done
on
the
commission
during
my
tenure
here
and
for
commissioner
Hughes,
how
many
times,
two
years
three
years
after
you've
said
something
I
go
darn,
he
was
right
or
you
know
he
had
a
great
point.
So
I
will
definitely
miss
that.
From
from
you,
commissioner,
Hughes.
A
AB
At
the
his
final
sprc,
what
last
week
or
I
can't
remember,
we
did
do
a
little
something
there,
but
I
think
most
of
us
here
can
see,
especially
on
the
affordable
housing
things
that
all
the
times
that
you've
stepped
forward
and
said
things
that
has
really
inspired
all
of
us,
and
you
know
I
hope
that
we
can
keep
that
up
in
your
absence,
because
that
has
been
super
important
and
you
know
that
lives
beyond
you
and
folks,
who
obviously
aren't,
as
you
know,
in
need
that
kind
of
assistance
and
to
commissioner
schroll
gosh
I
met
him
back
when
bvsca
he
was
the
president
of
Boston
Virginia,
Square,
civic
association
back
when
I
think
we
were
down
to
like
five
members,
including
him,
and
he
brought
in
a
vice
president
and
they
put
a
website
together
and
everything.
AB
So
we
watched
him
there
and
then
he
went
on
to
the
Civ
fed
and
then
he
went
on
to
transportation,
and
then
he
went
on
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
we
always
kind
of
thought
that
he
would
wind
up
as
a
board
member.
Don't
do
it
but
anyway,
so
to
see
you
in
your
new
chapter
with
you
know
a
baby
and
again,
as
commissioner
Lynn
tell
me
said,
for
those
of
us
who
really
never
had
time
to
read.
AB
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
I
know
we're
gonna
miss
you
there
because
half
the
time
we're
like
okay,
that
sounds
good.
Let's
do
it!
So
congratulations
and
good
luck
to
you
and
thank
you
for
all
the
opportunity
to
observe
you
over
the
years
on
the
various
roles.
So.
A
Ongoing
basis,
we
would
love
to
hear
from
you
I'd
like
to
recognize
each
of
you
to
say
a
few
final
words
and
then
we'll
finish
out.
Our
business
and
leave
commissioner
stroll.
M
Yeah,
thank
you
we'll
first
want
to
start
by.
You
know
thanking
the
Commissioners
that
you
know
said
all
those
kind
words
about
me
and
my
my
colleague
it's
you
know
been
up.
It's
been
an
honor
to
have
served
on
the
commission
these
past
eight
years
leading
you
know
pfrc
lrpc,
serving
as
Vice
chair
and
chair.
It's
been
a
very
rewarding
experience
and
I
hope
in
you
know
some
small
way
that
I've
left
Arlington
a
little
bit
better
than
I
found
it.
M
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
staff,
members
of
the
other
commissions
and
organizations,
applicants,
Civic
associations,
some
certainly
residents
and,
of
course,
my
Planning
Commission
colleagues,
you
know
to
commissioner
Hughes,
who
is
as
we
all
know,
is
this
is
his
last
hearing
as
well.
I
want
to
congratulate
you
to
for
your
eight
years
of
service
and,
as
commissioner
Bagley
rightly
noted,
you've
really
been
a
champion
of
affordable
housing.
M
When
we
first
got
on
the
commission,
commissioner
Steve
Cole
really
drilled
into
my
head,
that
you
need
to
do
a
few
things
and
one
was
to
stand
up
for
what
you
believed
in
and
do
it
each
time,
and
you
certainly
have
lived
that
I
want
to
thank
Miss
Johnson
for
all
of
your
support
and
assistance
and
guidance
over
my
tenure.
M
You
know,
as
I
conclude
here
idea,
perhaps
a
few
words
of
guidance
when
I
first
joined
the
commission.
Steve
Cole
said
that
being
a
good
planning
commissioner
took
about
four
years
and
said
that
you
know
you
really
only
as
good
as
what
you
know.
You
know
our
power
as
a
commission
is
really
the
power
of
persuasion.
Most
of
what
we
accomplish
is
is
in
our
subcommittees
and
really
not
at
this
hearing
dice
that
you're
all
at
this
evening.
M
So
to
that
end,
I
really
encourage
you
to
you
know,
go
and
do
as
much
as
you
can
learn
as
much
as
you
can
I
know.
There's
a
lot
to
do.
It
can
get
overwhelming,
particularly
for
those
who
have
young
families,
but
you'll
be
more
effective.
The
more
you
more
you
know.
So
get
to
know
the
site
plan
conditions
and
the
zoning
ordinance
and
compound
elements
get
to
know
those
things
and
please
dive
into
the
details.
M
The
Details,
Matter
I
am
leaving
the
commission
at
the
end
of
May,
but
yeah
I
might
go
on
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
and
be
a
signing
board
to
the
extent
that
that's
useful.
So
thanks
again
it's
been
a
pleasure
sharing
with
you
all.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
Hughes.
If
you
would
like
to
say
a
few
words.
L
I
want
to
Second
everything
that
commissioner
troll
said
it's
my
appointment,
buddy
he
he
and
I
what
you
don't
know.
Is
we
carport
a
lot
when
we
first
started,
and
so
I
really
do
appreciate
the
wisdom
he
shared
with
me
I.
All
of
you
I
consider
to
be
great
friends
and
colleagues,
and
it
is
the
co
how
we
treat
each
other
is
so
amazing.
I
love
all
of
you
and
I've
Loved.
All
the
Commissioners
I've
ever
worked
with.
L
Even
those
I
disagree
with
most
profoundly
and
frequently
so
it
was
figuring,
and
so
it's
it
is
through
dialogue.
It
says
through
knowledge
that
you're
you're
able
to
shape
our
community
and
leave
it
just
just
an
inch
better.
L
Then
we
got
it
and
I
do
want
to
thank
a
few
people,
commissioner
fornash
for
lying
to
me,
so
that
I
actually
did
join
the
commission.
Commissioner
yakimini
for
being
there
on
the
first
day
to
introduce
me
to
the
commission,
because
I
had
no
idea
what
I
had
signed
up
for,
and
it
is
horrible
for
all
of
you
for
never
appointing
me
as
chairman.
I
really
do
appreciate
that,
because
I
send
my
condolences
to
all
of
you
every
time.
L
Those
of
you
who
accept
that
a
burden
and
appreciate
those
of
you
who
do
and
then
my
final
thought
for
each
of
you
and
I'm
sure
I've
left
somebody
off
is.
L
We
serve
a
purpose
in
the
state
code.
There
are
I,
think
20
to
30
different
Commissions
in
the
county.
Some
of
us
are
empowered
by
state
code.
Hence
the
reason
we
get
sued.
L
Others
are
strictly
advisory
and
state
code
is
the
bounding
function,
and
we
have
to
remember
that
and
so
to
the
extent
that
you're
able
to
ensure
that
technicalities
under
state
code
are
not
glossed
over
and
the
facts
are
shown
to
the
community.
To
be
true
is
your
ability
to
actually
shape
discussion
and
move
forward,
and
it's
so
cool
for
me,
the
thing
I
love
most
about
my
job
is
like
this
past
weekend,
I
was
in
Crystal
City
and
two
buildings
are
being
built
right.
L
There,
1900,
Crystal,
Drive
and
I
can
tell
my
kids,
hey
Daddy
helped
those
buildings
get
built
like
that's
really
cool,
and
so
it's
really
a
rewarding
job
and
we
need
more
Commissioners
and
we
need
broader
Commissioners.
So
I
appreciate
all
of
your
time
and
effort,
and
you
guys
know
where
to
find
me.
So
thanks.
A
Thank
you
both
we
do
still
have
a
little
bit
of
business
to
take
care
of.
So
let's
get
through
that.
Can
someone
please
make
a
motion
with
regards
to
the
April
10th
meeting
minutes.
J
I
ask
unanimous
consent
to
accept
the
minutes
of
the
April
10th,
adopt
the
the
minutes
of
the
April
10th
Planning
Commission
meeting.
A
With
regards
to
staff
reports,
oh
sorry,
Commission
reports
have
already
been
heard
from
I
believe
they
circulated
for
pfrc
lrpc
zoko.
Did
you
send
a
report.
D
A
A
It's
not
all
about
food,
though.
Okay.
Thank
you
appreciate
that
report.
Sprc
I
did
I
get
access
to
the
thing,
so
I
can
read
the
thing
or
did.
I
I
I
I
I
Yes,
perfect,
okay,
so
colleagues,
this
document,
plus
the
edition
of
commissioner
Guevara
and
I,
asked
for
your
unanimous
consent
to
amend
the
previously
adopted
roster.
A
Seeing
no
objection
so
adopted,
that's
the
language
so
adopted
great
yay.
Are
there
any
staff
reports.
AD
It's
my
mic
on
Madam,
chair
I,
do
have
two
very
fun
updates
that
I
would
love
to
share
with
you.
The
last
couple
of
months
we've
been
very
busy
working
to
hire
an
associate
Planner
on
our
current
planning
team
and
a
new
principal
planner
to
replace
Michael
Cullen.
We
I'm
happy
to
announce
that
we
have
hired
some
folks
and
they
may
be
familiar
names,
so
Nicole
bowling
who
previously
worked
for
the
county,
is
coming
back
to
assume
a
role
as
an
associate
planner
with
us
and
Chrissy.
AD
Wallintish
is
also
returning
to
to
assume
a
role
on
the
the
site
plan
review
team.
So
we're
very
happy
about
that
and
they
will
be
both
be
starting
during
the
month
of
May
and
so
look
out
for
them
and
that's
all
I
have
to
report.
A
Oh,
so
those
were
the
two
fun
updates
got
it:
okay,
it
was
like
hired
people.
Okay,
never
mind,
that's
great
next
time
with
disco,
music,
okay,
so
yep,
commissioner
Hughes.
L
Since
I
didn't
sell
the
AG
report,
the
OG
heard
an
update
to
the
Jarre
Lynch
Redevelopment
proposals
going
on
at
the
Barcroft
project.
So
first
steps
and
then
there's
an
upcoming
meeting
on
the
Christian
or
the
commissioner
will
be
chairing
on
Maytag.
A
A
Just
kidding
we
are
meeting
on
the
17th
of
May
for
career
center
I,
believe
that
will
be
the
last
meeting
for
career
center
before
things
happen,
and
it
goes
more
places
but
I've
been
wrong
before
so
we'll
see.
Okay,
anything
else
can
I
gavel
us
out
all
right.
We
are
adjourned,
see
y'all
in
June.
Oh
no
May,
31st,
right,
May
31st
for
the
June
meeting.