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B
B
A
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
April
11th
2018
carryover
meeting
of
the
Arlington
County
Planning
Commission
tonight
we
have
one
item
on
our
agenda
on
which
we
will
advise
the
county
board
on
a
request
to
advertise
the
Four
Mile
Run
Valley
policy
framework,
which
is
here
in
this
regard.
The
Commission
will
hear
a
presentation
from
staff
on
this
two-year
planning
process,
and
we
will
also
hear
from
mr.
Charles
Montfort
the
chair
of
the
Four
Mile
Run
Valley
working
group.
We
will,
as
usual,
take
testimony
from
the
public
and
hear
from
our
other
Commission's.
A
Then
the
Planning
Commission
will
discuss
the
policy
framework.
Be
sure
if
you
wish
to
speak
to
have
your
speaker
slips
into
the
clerk
before
she
calls.
The
item
for
tonight
I
anticipate
that
we
will
take
two
hours
to
hear
and
discuss
the
item,
and
then
we
will
entertain
a
motion
to
advise
the
county
board
regarding
this
request
to
advertise.
A
This
item
will
be
followed
by
the
Commission's
monthly
business
meeting
and,
just
to
remind
you,
the
Arlington
County
Planning
Commission
is
a
citizen
advisory
board
authorized
by
Virginia
State
Code.
It
promotes
the
orderly
development
of
Arlington
County
and
its
environs
by
advising
the
County
Board
on
development,
land
use
facilities
and
zoning.
The
Planning
Commission
meetings
are
video
and
audio
tape,
so
now
would
be
a
good
time
to
turn
off
your
cell
phones
and
if
you
could
keep
them
away
from
the
microphones
as
there
may
be
feedback.
C
D
We'll
we'll
try
to
break
this
up
into
two
parts:
the
area
of
all
three
parts
and
an
overview
that
I'll
quickly
give
an
area
plan
review
which
I
will
do
is
well
with
the
help
of
Richard
best
and
then
Marko
Rivero
will
will
finish
with
considerations
for
the
park
master
plan
in
terms
of
overview.
This
is
the
the
study
area,
which
includes
two
two
distinct
areas:
the
area
plan
area
outlined
in
dark
red
and
the
park
master
plan
area
outlined
in
orange.
D
This
is
a
unique
planning
process
where
we're
endeavoring
to
complete
both
an
area
plan
and
a
park
master
plan
at
the
same
time.
At
the
same
time,
this
has
this
initiative
has
gone
under
the
heading
of
four
mile
run
valley,
because
we
also
incorporate
ongoing
planning
efforts
for
the
NOC
Town
Square.
In
addition
to
the
three
of
us
who
have
been
primarily
involved
in
this
process,
this
process
is
headed
by
Chico
and
joko,
who
is
the
division
chief
for
Neighborhood
Services
he's
here
in
the
audience
tonight?
D
This
process,
as
was
mentioned
by
the
chair,
was
initiated
in
2016.
We
have
had
extensive
community
involvement,
including
an
community
forum,
a
public
charrette,
an
open
house.
We've
had
over
30
working
group
meetings.
So
at
this
point
we
probably
in
another
year
or
two-
we
can
get
this
thing
squared
away.
That
was
a
joke.
D
Just
to
give
you
some
background,
this
area
is
primarily
designated
for
industrial
uses,
the
magenta
color
on
the
general
land-use
plan.
There
are
also
areas
for
medium
residential
development
in
the
location,
near
24th,
road
and
and
Glee
Road,
and,
of
course,
there
are
public
uses
park
spaces
throughout
the
study
area,
in
keeping
with
the
general
land
use
plan
designations.
This
area
is
zoned
primarily
for
industrial
uses,
the
M,
1
and
M
2
uses,
and
there
is
hotel
and
and
multi-family
residential
again
in
the
area
near
24th
and
Glee.
D
In
looking
at
the
area
plan
area,
which
is
again
primarily
zoned
for
industrial
use,
there
are
a
number
of
recurring
themes
and
these
covered
in
the
staff
report,
as
well
as
recurring
themes
for
the
park
master
plan
area,
and
these
are
important
and
we
use
these
to
guide
us
in
terms
of
developing
the
vision
for
the
area
plan
area.
Some
of
the
key
ideas
were
keeping
the
industrial
use,
promoting
the
Arts
and
addressing
parking
as
a
major
issue
for
this
area.
D
The
policy
framework
includes
a
vision
statement
which
staff
drafted
and
we've
received
some
recent
input
from
the
working
group
and
the
the
recent
changes
minor
edits
are
shown
in
red
on
your
screen.
I
won't
go
into
this,
but
I
think
it
underscores
the
idea
that
the
that
there's
a
desire
to
promote
the
continued
industrial,
flavor
and
character
of
the
area,
incorporating
the
Arts,
increasing
access
to
the
natural
resources
in
the
area
making
park
improvements
in
the
area
etc.
D
So
these
are
things
that
we
carry
through
in
in
the
vision
statement,
so
I'm
gonna
review
the
area
plan
concept
plan
related
issues,
issues
that
have
come
up
during
the
process.
How
we've
revised
the
policy
framework
since
the
time
it
was
a
first
issue
for
review
in
early
February
and
and
some
other
policy
recommendations
which
I
think
are
key
in
for
your
consideration
before
I
show
you,
the
area
plan
concept
plan
want
to
make
sure
we
understand
how
the
map
is
is
to
be
used.
D
So,
looking
at
the
concept
plan,
you
can
see
that
and
we've
broken
the
study
area
into
four
areas:
sub
areas,
a
B,
C
and
D.
So,
starting
on
the
left
in
the
west
of
the
study
area,
the
area
west
of
Walter
Reed
Drive,
we
show
that
this
area
would
remain
or
continue
to
have
the
industrial
and
service
commercial
type
uses
the
sub
area.
B
would
and
also
have
the
same
uses
or
continued
uses,
but
also
be
the
area
where
we
would
encourage
the
arts
to
be
expanded
in
sub
area.
D
C
and
D
predominantly
we're
saying,
keep
the
existing
uses,
but
we
have
that
small
areas
that
are
adjacent
to
the
north
revitalization
district
outlined
in
purple
here,
where
we
would
encourage
broader
uses,
similar
in
scope
and
intent
for
from
the
the
noch
revitalization
plan,
which
calls
from
mixed-use
development.
Mid-Rise
development
within
this
area
is
also
a
Lomax
AME
Church,
which
is
already
designated
historic
and
and
we
we
have
no
changes
in
store
for
that
site
just
to
back
up
just
for
orientation
purposes.
D
As
of
the
most
recent
publication
of
the
policy
framework,
how
we
might
deal
with
uses
within
the
to
block
area
adjacent
to
Jana,
Dean
Park
and
the
larger
concept
of
an
Arts
District
in
the
study
area,
how
we
might
use
incentives
to
accomplish
our
goals
and
then
reaction
to
strategies
that
the
staff
has
outlined
for
parking
and
reconfiguration
to
form
our
and
drive.
So
I'll
review
these,
as
well
as
some
concepts
and
policy
recommendations
that
are
in
the
policy
framework.
D
So
going
back
to
the
beginning,
we
we
started
with
three
concepts,
just
as
a
as
a
starting
point
again
in
reaction
to
the
input
we
received
at
the
community
forum
and
charrette
that
we
had
in
December
of
2016
again
keeping
the
idea
that
we
would
recommend
limited
change
in
a
majority
of
the
study
area.
We
were
looking
for
areas
where
we
could
entertain
additional
development,
broader
uses,
perhaps
within
certain
sub
areas
and
so
concept.
One.
D
It
calls
for
mid-rise
development,
six
to
eight
stories,
mixed-use
development
along
the
frontage
of
Shirlington
Road.
It
also
outlined
new
streets
to
be
implemented
within
sub
area
D,
and
we
show
that
within
our
concept.
So
again
we
had
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community
about
our
recommendation
or
our
study
of
this
particular
concept.
There
were
concerns
about
the
potential
loss
of
industrial
uses.
D
D
The
heights
are
consistent
with
existing
zoning,
so
in
in
this
area,
which
is
primarily
zone
m1,
the
the
height
limit
is
675
feet.
So
we
want
to
keep
that
generally
in
place.
So
we
don't
preclude
preclude
the
type
of
development
that
can
be
built
currently,
and
we
want
to
want
to
work
within
that
two
sites
or
three
sites
want
to
mention.
D
We
had
a
significant
amount
of
discussion
about
colocation
and
and
making
best
use
of
county
facilities
where
we
can,
and
so
if
the
buses
are
to
remain
there,
we
want
to
preserve
the
opportunity
to
build
something
of
adequate
height
to
meet
other
county
needs
or
other
community
needs
in
the
future.
If
the
opportunity
presents
itself,
we
saw
a
few
areas
where
the
height
is
limited
to
45
feet,
including
the
Lomax
church
property,
the
properties
that
are
currently
zoned,
c2,
which
again
the
height
currently
is
45
feet
and
the
all-important
weenie
beanie.
D
D
Just
to
have
a
better
experience
and
most
people
say
the
stream
is
there,
but
there's
not
really
that
access
that
opportunity
to
really
enjoy
looking
at
Alley,
free
Park,
which
is
not
part
of
the
park
master
plan
area,
is
part
of
the
area
plan
area.
It's
a
natural
area.
We,
our
recommendation,
is
to
keep
it
that
way.
It's
an
area
west
of
Walter,
E
Drive
between
Walter
Reed
and
bark
Rock,
Park
south
of
the
stream,
and
in
this
area
again
keeping
it
natural.
D
We
want
to
enhance
it,
perhaps
by
just
creating
a
gateway,
and
perhaps
some
art
or
interpretive
information
about
the
area
and
space.
A
major
issue
as
well
discussed
in
our
process
is
the
idea
of
creating
an
Arts
District.
The
working
group,
which
consists
of
25
members,
had
a
committee
looking
at
the
idea
of
an
Arts
District
and
had
several
created
a
report
and
had
several
recommendations,
including
designate
of
an
Arts
District
staff,
is
generally
supportive
of
the
idea
of
continuing
the
discussion
of
an
Arts
District.
D
We
would
we
propose
to
work
with
the
Arts
Commission
arts
groups,
local
property
owners
and
and
neighbors
to
really
really
work
to
define
what
we
mean
by
arts
district,
what
the
incentives
might
be,
what
the
character
of
this
area
and
what
the
uses
might
be
that
might
be
in
this
area.
So
we
certainly
support
the
idea,
but
we
we
have
recommended
that
there
be
a
follow
on
process
to
really
dig
into
this
issue,
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
forward
in
a
way
that
works
for
everyone.
D
We
have
shown
an
area
between
ginny
dean
park
and
and
walter
reed
drive,
where
we
would
encourage
the
arts
to
be
expanded
beyond
the
parcels
where
the
county
owns
right
now,
that
might
be
used
for
that
purpose,
including
a
two-block
area
and
all
of
the
rest
of
sub
area.
B
again,
we
would
like
to
really
work
with
the
community
as
a
fall
in
the
following
process
to
really
identify
the
vision
and
the
goals
and
how,
in
fact,
we
want
to
move
forward
in
defining
and
creating
this
arts
district
in
the
future.
D
One
of
the
things
that
has
changed
since
the
printing
of
the
policy
framework
in
February
and
it's
in
the
current
version.
In
the
first
and
in
the
previous
version,
we
had
recommendations
relating
to
the
three
parcels
that
the
county
has
owned
for
some
time.
There
are
two
parcels
in
this:
l-shaped
configuration
the
the
old
signature,
theater
building,
3806
Walter,
E
Drive
and
then
a
warehouse
building,
so
two
buildings
on
this
parcel
and
at
the
end
of
Oakland
street
and
3700,
where
there
are
a
range
of
arts
uses
and
county
office
spaces.
D
So
our
previous
recommendation
was
that
two
of
these
parcels
would
eventually
become
open
space.
Once
we
found
alternate
locations
for
the
uses
that
are
in
those
buildings
now,
and
that
the
3700
building
could
be
developed
as
a
future
community
facility
that
might
also
incorporate
open
space
of
recreation
uses,
we
got
significant
feedback
from
the
community.
D
We've
created
the
flexibility
and
the
opportunity
for
the
the
community
to
really
weigh
in
and
weigh
all
the
options
in
terms
of
how
these
parcels
can
be
used.
A
second
point
that
the
board
directed
us
to
follow
up
on
was
to
change
the
boundary
role,
boundary
line
between
the
park
planning
area
and
in
the
area
plan
area.
D
So
this
two
block
area
which
had
been
part
of
the
park
planning
area,
is
now
part
of
the
area
plan
area,
and
that
was
to
signify
that
the
board
was
not
supportive
of
the
idea
of
expanding
open
space
in
this
area.
Beyond
what
the
county
currently
owns,
and
there
was
a
significant
concern
and
feedback
that
we
received
from
business
owners
and
property
owners
in
that
area,
so
this
was
responsive
to
some
of
their
concerns.
D
Some
of
our
environmental
recommendations
are
really
in
line
with
current
policy,
so
we
certainly
want
to
integrate
green
infrastructure
with
our
public
improvement,
so
our
streetscape
and
sidewalk
projects
that
will
potentially
implement
it
over
time.
We
want
to
incorporate
that
there
and
there's
a
public
education
aspect
that
we
want
to
implement,
as
well
specifically
for
four
mile
run,
which
is
in
this
stretch
of
a
very
stable
facility
that
was
engineered
and
built
by
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
as
opposed
to
other
areas
which
are
more
natural
and
more
susceptible
to
erosion,
etc.
D
But
there
is
some
some
need
to
continue
to
stabilize
the
bank
by
strategically
increasing
the
vegetative
buffer.
We
want
to
remove
invasive
species
and
we
want
to
address
stormwater
impacts
from
adjacent
uses.
So
we
want
to
work
overtime
with
the
property
owners
on
a
voluntary
basis
to
to
help
to
address
that
in
the
eastern
edge
of
the
the
study
area
between
Shellington,
road
and
395.
There's
a
knock
branch,
and
not
a
lot
of
people,
know
about
that.
It's
a
tributary
to
four
mile
run
running
through
those
industrial
parcels.
D
It
often
floods
it's
under
capacity,
but
there
there's
not
an
opportunity
at
this
point
based
on
our
land,
use,
reckoning,
recommendations
and
the
ownership
pattern
to
really
address
it
at
this
time.
So
we
want
to
work
overtime
to
find
opportunities
to
address
the
flooding
in.
In
opportunities
arise,
so
we
want
to
pursue
easements
with
the
property
owners,
and
if
there
is
redevelopment
that
occurs,
we
want
to
work
with
those
property
owners
to
move
buildings
away
from
this
that
waterway
and
create
the
space
that's
necessary
to
provide
maintenance
and
upkeep.
D
There
has
been
a
question
that
has
arisen
a
number
of
times
in
the
working
group,
discussion,
online
comments,
etc.
You
know
how
in
fact,
can
we
incentivize
the
development
that
we
seek
specifically
for
the
Arts
and
and
other
complimented
redevelopment,
as
well
as
encouraging
property
owners
to
deal
with
the
stormwater
management
issues
that
are
in
this
area?
D
D
E
Thank
you,
Richard,
going
into
this
effort.
We
had
two
major
goals
in
transportation.
The
first
was
to
increase
the
the
parking
supply
and
we
would
do
that
through
the
utilization
of
Owen
Street
resources.
Second
goal
was
really
looking
at
the
pedestrian
and
bike
connectivity
and
really
providing
for
safe.
You
know
the
passage
in
sidewalks.
The
transportation
recommendations
are
actually
broken
down
into
three
areas.
The
first
one
is
a
short
term
within
one
year
parking
plan
and
parking
management.
E
The
second
one
is
short
term
items
that
we
can
implement
and
basically
implement
these
very
quickly
in
sort
of
two
to
four
years,
or
we
can
implement
these
in
paint
and
a
temporary
measure
and
to
test
them
and
in
the
third
group,
would
be
longer-term.
This
is
where
we
take
the
items
that
we've
tested
and
we
make
them
permanent.
The
first
item
is
the
proactive
curb
space
management.
E
This
would
be
completed
in
about
one
year,
and
this
is
really
looking
at
the
the
parking
around
Jenny
Dean
Park,
and
today
we
have
a
whole
mix
of
regulations.
Certain
blocks
certain
sides
of
the
street
there's
a
parking
meter
across
the
street.
There's
no
regulation
whatsoever,
there's
certain
commercial
parking
sections
on
four
mile
run,
so
it's
really
a
whole
mix,
a
really
a
mixed
bag
of
regulation.
We
want
to
streamline
this
really
to
promote
turnover,
so
we
don't
have
a
meter
on
one
side
and
non
regulation
on
the
other
under
the
midterm.
E
This
is
the
reconfiguration
and
evaluation.
This
is
where
we
actually
do
a
lot
of
the
measures
and
on
a
temporary
basis
and
really
test
and
measure
them.
The
two
of
the
major
items
for
this
is
to
test
the
angled
parking
on
the
south
side,
a
four
mile
run
drive
and
this
would
be
right
adjacent
to
the
Jenny
Dean
Park,
and
this
would
really
come
online.
The
same
time,
the
park
is
coming
online
to
provide
extra
parking
spaces
for
the
park.
The
second
initiative
here
is
to
have
a
sidewalk.
E
E
This
is
where
we
actually
after
we
test
the
measures,
then
we
would
repave
and
re
stripe
and
make
them
permanent,
so
the
angled
parking,
then
would
become
permanent
if,
if
we
go
through
the
tests-
and
it
proves
to
be
safe-
also
there's
a
number
of
other
improvements
that
we'd
be
testing,
and
this
is
when
they
would
be
evaluated
and
built
a
couple
of
other
items.
The
one
other
thing
as
far
as
long-term
is
a
sidewalk.
On
the
north
side,
a
four
mile
run
drive.
E
Here
we
have
the
four
mile
run
drive
concept,
and
this
shows
the
angled
parking
landscaping
sidewalks
on
both
sides
of
the
street,
and
this
would
be
a
detail
of
the
angled
parking
and
again,
this
is
back
in
angled
parking
that
we
really
find
to
be
much
safer
than
standard
angled
parking.
This
is
the
concept
for
west
of
Nelson,
again
sidewalks
landscaping,
and
in
this
section
it
would
be
parallel
parking
throughout
the
process.
E
Here
we
have
four
mile
run.
A
drive
today
has
two
lanes
in
each
direction
with
parallel
parking,
and
here
we
have
the
sort
of
the
vision
concept.
This
would
be
a
three
lane
configuration
one
travel
lane
in
each
direction,
with
the
center
turn
lane
parallel
parking
on
the
north
side,
with
a
sidewalk
and,
of
course,
a
quality
sidewalk
on
the
south
side,
with
landscaping
in
the
grass
utility
strip.
E
E
As
far
as
the
additional
future
recommendations,
we
have
the
pet
and
bike
safety
improvements,
we're
also
looking
at
Shirlington
Road
and
having
some
safer
pedestrian
crossings
for
Shirlington
Road
and
Arlington
Mill
Drive,
and
also
for
mal
run.
So
this
would
be
some
measures
to
facilitate
pedestrians
crossing
these
major
roads
easily
far
as
transit
related
improvements.
F
F
In
terms
of
the
working
group
charge.
The
part
of
the
charge
states
that
the
park
master
plan
will
provide
a
vision
for
the
comprehensive
replacement
and
realignment
of
existing
park
features
and
the
addition
of
new
park
amenities
to
meet
the
growing
demand
for
active
and
passive
recreation,
cultural
resources
and
natural
resource
preservation,
as
well
as
state
stating
a
few
of
the
key
study
elements,
as
shown
within
this
slide
in
terms
of
Charlatans
park.
F
Stakeholders
asked
for
casual
use,
recreation,
continued
removal
of
invasive
species,
plant
species,
improved
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety,
place,
making
and
wayfinding
opportunities
throughout
the
park.
Greater
connections
to
nature
through
overlooks
which
we're
providing
for
three
within
this
park.
F
This
shows
an
existing
the
existing
configuration
of
the
Shirlington
dog
park,
which
is
located
on
the
northern
side,
a
four
mile
run
stream,
just
east
of
east
of
south
Walter,
E,
Drive
and
all
the
way
towards
south
or
Oakland
Street.
The
Charlatans
dog
park
was
a
major
topic
of
discussion
at
last
May's
work
session.
Accordingly,
the
working
group
developed
a
committee
to
address
the
challenges
of
having
a
dog
park
adjacent
to
the
stream.
F
The
park
master
plan
will
include
short
and
midterm
recommendations
for
improving
the
dog
park,
including
stormwater
considerations,
removal
of
invasive
species
and
other
water
quality
improvements.
However,
the
plan
will
not
provide
for
a
redevelopment
concept
for
the
Shirlington
dog
park
for
Jenny
Dean
Park.
After
several
months
of
community
input,
including
the
open
house,
Civic
Association
meetings
and
meetings
with
the
working
group,
there
was
a
staff
recommended
option
that
was
shared
at
last
February's
county
board
work
session
and
some
of
the
elements
contained
within
that
I
will
run
through
here.
F
So
during
phase
one
construction,
the
WETA
building
and
access
remains
from
27th
Street
South.
This
concept
also
places
the
two
diamond
fields
along
South
Nelson
Street,
and
incorporates
a
rectangular
field
overlay
within
the
adult,
softball
diamond.
In
this
case.
It's
the
large
diamond
field,
which
could
be
used
for
unprogrammed
play
the
playground,
restrooms
and
large
picnic
shelter
would
be
located
just
south
of
the
weta
parcel
and
casual
use,
open
space
and
tree
canopy
would
surround
the
site.
F
It's
part
of
phase
two
if
the
WIDA
parcel
is
acquired,
as
well
as
the
other
two
parcels
which
are
just
north
east
of
the
site,
the
installation.
Within
this
phase
there
would
be
the
installation
of
the
athletic
courts,
which
includes
one
basketball
and
two
tennis
courts,
as
well
as
the
additional
casual
use
open
space.
Just
east
of
that
all
elements
would
be
incorporated
north
of
the
resource
protection
area,
which
you
can
see
faintly
within
a
dotted
line
just
north
of
the
run.
F
Additionally,
a
soft
path
north
of
the
Four
Mile
Run,
would
provide
access
and
visibility
within
these.
Within
this
area
terms
of
feedback
that
we've
received,
there
were
members
of
the
working
group
that
preferred
a
previously
considered
option,
which
is
known
as
option
which
was
known
as
option
3
and
we'll
go
through
that
with
in
the
next
few
slides,
because
the
option
places
fields
and
associated
lighting
to
an
area
further
south
of
the
park
away
from
the
Nok
neighbourhood.
F
So
the
committee
met
on
four
occasions
in
March
and
also
in
the
early
part
of
this
month,
and
the
work
of
the
committee
will
be
shared
with
the
working
group
tomorrow
evening
and
to
speak
about
the
committee's
work.
There
were
actually
two
new
committee
concepts
that
were
developed
and
discussed
during
that
time.
So
in
terms
of
the
first
concept
concept,
one
phase
one,
it
shows
the
WETA
building
remaining
and
access
to
it
remaining
from
27th
Street
South.
F
The
concept
places
the
two
diamond
fields
along
South,
Nelson,
Street,
how
this
is
different
from
the
staffs
recommended
concept
in
February,
where
the
diamond
fields
here
are
flipped,
showing
the
youth
baseball
diamond
located
south
of
Four
Mile,
Run
Drive,
the
playground,
a
small
shelter
and
restrooms
are
located
along
the
frontage
of
Four
Mile,
Run
Drive
and
a
basketball
court.
Tennis,
court
and
large
picnic
shelter
are
also
located
an
area
just
south
of
south
of
the
weta
parcel.
F
There's
also
the
soft
path
north
of
Four
Mile,
Run
Drive,
which
is
which
would
be
implemented
under
this
phase.
The
configuration
of
this
site
elements
allows
for
all
existing
uses
to
be
accommodated
in
some
form
during
phase
one
and,
furthermore,
a
small
surface
parking
lot
within
the
park.
Just
west
of
sterlington
Road
would
also
be
retained.
F
It's
part
of
Phase
two,
if
Jenny
Dean
Park,
if
there
would
be
the
acquisition
of
the
WIDA
parcel
as
well
as
the
other
two
parcels
just
northeast
of
the
site,
the
concept
would
show
the
final
configuration
of
all
the
site
elements
which
includes
a
relocated
basketball
court
within
the
wheel,
parcel
area
as
well
as
two
tennis
courts.
Just
south
of
the
WIDA
parcel
and
expanded
casual
use,
open
space
east
of
the
basketball
court.
F
Within
concept,
two
phase,
one
this
electric-
this
illustrates
how
Jenny
Dean
Park
could
look
within
this
concept,
with
the
WIDA
building
remaining
and
access
to
it
from
27th
Street
south.
Also
remaining
this
phase
moves
the
adult,
softball
diamond
along
south
Nelson
Street,
and
also
moves
the
youth
baseball
diamond
temporarily
to
the
current
location
of
the
adult,
softball
diamond,
where
its
boundaries
will
remain
partially
and
the
resource
protection
area
and
would
have
minimal
renovations
and
amenity
and
amenities
provided.
F
Under
this
phase,
the
tennis
courts
are
located
roughly
in
their
current
location,
and
it
also
cites
a
new
basketball
court,
just
northwest
of
the
current
location
and
sites,
the
new
playground,
small
shelter
and
restrooms
along
four
mile
run
drive.
This
concept
also
retains
the
small
surface
parking
lot
on
the
east
side
of
the
site,
as
well
as
the
soft
path
just
north
of
Four
Mile
Run
drive
within
concept
to
Phase
two.
This
shows
Jenny
Dean
Park.
A
A
G
G
Richard
mentioned,
that
this
is
sort
of
a
unique
processor,
was
a
unique
process
because
it
was
both
a
park,
planning,
master
planning
process
and
the
area
plan.
All
done
together
by
the
same
group
of
people
had
some
very
contentious
issues,
but
we
had
two
different
communities
of
people,
both
staff
and
community
members
trying
to
work
together
for
the
first
time
and
those
the
park
planning
process
and
the
area
planning
process
are
really
different.
So
that
was
a
real
challenge,
but
one
other
way
this
hold
this.
G
This
this
study
was
unique,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
this
is
the
last
major
area
of
light
industrial
land
in
Arlington.
I
cannot
tell
you
how
many
people
came
up
to
me
and
said:
don't
close,
my
car
repair
place
I
store
all
my
stuff.
There
don't
get
rid
of
that.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
sentiment,
a
lot
of
support
for
these
businesses,
because
it
is
this
is
not
a
failing
industrial
area.
These
are
successful,
very
well
patronized,
very
popular
businesses.
G
They
provide
a
lot
of
employment
and
there's
was
really
no
incentive,
an
either
the
community
or
in
the
working
group
to
get
rid
of
those
and
put
in
more
condos
high-rise
office
buildings.
Whatever
the
sentiment
was
these.
This
is
a
well-liked,
well
used
set
of
businesses
and
we
should
keep
them
there.
G
I'm
their
car
repair
places,
they're
storage
places,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
dog
related
businesses
which
have
sprung
up
organically
because
the
dog
park
and,
of
course,
there's
our
brewery,
which
we've
all
come
to
know
and
love
very
much
in
terms
of
the
transportation
improvements.
It
was
obvious.
The
first
day
we
did
a
walking
tour
of
the
site,
all
the
way,
the
length
of
Four
Mile
Run
Drive,
and
it
was
very
obvious
that
our
major
issues
for
anyone
trying
to
walk
or
bike
through
that
area.
G
G
It
I
think
the
staff
told
you
that's
actually
private
property,
so
it's
very
difficult
to
put
sidewalks
in
and
if
we're
putting
a
new
park
at
Jenny
Dean,
that's
going
to
cause
more
pedestrian,
more
bicycle
traffic,
so
we
really
felt
we
needed
to
address
improvements
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
and
this
plan
has
lots
of
those
improvements
in
it.
There
were
a
couple
of
ideas
that
came
up
that
are
sort
of
longer-term
answers,
for
example,
the
idea
of
continuing
the
bike
path
along
formal
around
itself,
under
a
bridge
or
over
the
bridge.
G
Oh
sure,
Lincoln
bridge
that
you
know
we're
beyond
the
scope
of
this
and
maybe
something
we
should
look
at
in
the
long
term,
but
near-term
improvements
that
are
extensive
in
this
Marko's
talked
about
Shirlington
Park,
that
is
already
a
nice
spot
and
D.
Yesterday,
a
DPR
did
a
great
job
in
recommending
improvements
to
that
it
was
not
controversial
in
the
least
sort
of
everybody
in
the
first
presentation
gravitated
boom.
We
want
to
do
that
so
that
that's
sort
of
no
issue
there.
G
The
dog
park,
as
you
may
have
heard,
was
very
controversial,
especially
at
the
beginning.
There
was
a
lot
of
concern
that
the
park
was
going
to
change
or
move
or
be
reduced
in
size.
There
was
a
lot
of
public
concern
about
that.
We
raced
it
with
the
county
board
and
they
basically
asked
us
to
revisit
it.
So
we
did
set
up
a
dog
park
committee
to
look
into
it,
and
the
consensus
of
the
committee
was
is
that
nobody
would
put
a
dog
park
there
if
you
were
doing
it
now
because
of
the
change
environmental
regulations.
G
It
could
be
ten
million
dollars,
twelve
million
dollars
because
a
large
area-
and
you
have
to
dig
way
down
a
fact
which
is
on
Nelson
Street
very
close
by
recently
renovated
their
building
and
had
to
put
a
new
say
to
put
a
new
cement
floor
and
they
had
to
excavate
they
to
take
14
truckloads
of
garbage
out
from
under
their
floor
before
they
got
down
to
solid
ground
and
I.
Think
that
it
sort
of
would
be
you'd
find
that
throughout
the
area.
G
So
the
bottom
line
is
we're
not
going
to
spend
ten
million
dollars
renovating
that
dog
park
when
we
could
use
that
money
to
actually
improve
the
park
itself.
So
our
bottom
line-
and
that
is
keep
it
where
it
is,
make
some
improvements
or
some
things
we
can
do
to
minimize
the
environmental
impact.
But
it
makes
no
sense
that
it
is
by
the
way
the
most
popular
dog
park
in
Arlington
and
rated
by
the
New
York
Times
last
year
as
the
number
one
dog
park
in
the
United
States.
G
So
we
want
to
make
it
better
in
its
current
location,
the
arts
and
industries
district.
You
know
it's
described
in
here
and
there's
several
and
both
as
a
recommendation
that
we've
got
a
recommendation
in
here
to
create
an
arts
and
industries
district,
but
I.
Think
it's
more
accurate
to
say.
The
working
group
wants
to
recognize
the
existing
organic
arts
district
that
has
come
up
on
its
own,
just
sort
of
created
without
a
lot
of
planning,
because
the
signature
garage
is
there.
G
G
You
know,
do
something
related
to
the
arts,
and
so
we
had
extensive
testimony
from
people,
community
groups
and
individuals
that
that
building
is
really
important
and
if
it
was
gonna
go
away,
that
facility
would
have
to
be
recreated
somewhere
else
and
it
became
clear
I
think
to
the
pretty
large
majority
of
working
group
that
this
is
kind
of
interesting.
Here.
We've
got
a
facility
that
signatures
using
if
they
could
expand,
there's
the
3700
building
that
could
expand
could
be
used
for
other
things.
G
It's
connected
to
Shirlington
by
a
footbridge,
and
so
the
thought
was:
let's
look
at
creating
arts,
an
industry
district
that
would
encourage
arts
uses
not
kick
out.
The
industrial
people
not
kick
out
the
car
people,
but
create
potentially
create
some
incentives
to
bring
more
arts
related
uses.
Maybe
a
coffee
shop,
maybe
a
coffee,
roaster
and
all
kinds
of
things
have
popped
up.
G
And
you
know
the
the
last
remaining
major
issue
is
Jennie
Dean
Park
and
we've
looked
at
I,
don't
know
a
dozen
different
designs
for
it.
Every
one
of
these
designs,
the
ones
the
two
remaining
designs-
all
have
the
same
things
in
ultimately,
because
the
direction
from
the
county
board
is,
you
will
replace
and
improve
the
existing
facilities.
So
they'll
be
a
softball
park.
G
They'll
be
a
baseball
park,
they'll
be
tennis
courts
in
a
basketball
court,
there'll
be
a
playground,
they'll
be
a
picnic,
a
shelter,
that'll
that'll
all
be
in
there,
and
the
issue
is:
how
do
you
fit
it
all
in
in
that
in
that
fairly
constrained
space?
We're
actually
going
if
these
plans
come
to
fruition
from
12
to
almost
16
acres,
which
is
a
big
increase,
but
the
facilities
are
all
larger.
G
The
you
know
that
the
current
baseball
field
and
softball
field
are
substandard,
they're,
too
small,
and
so
getting
all
that
stuff
in
that
Park
has
been
a
real
challenge.
We're
not
done
with
that
issue
where
everything
a
meeting
tomorrow
night
to
talk
about
the
gennadiy
and
Park
committee
report.
I,
don't
know
we're
gonna
go
with
that,
but
it's
it's
been.
It's
been
a
difficult
challenge
and
you
know
something
I
hope
we
can
resolve
soon.
G
That's
the
only
other
point
I
want
to
make
is
that
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
we
have
will
require
some
serious
thought
when
it
comes
to
implementation.
Usually,
when
we
have
an
area
plan
and
we
call
for
redevelopment
of
sites,
the
county
doesn't
pay
for
the
new
sidewalks
curbs,
gutters
and
lighting.
It's
the
developers
pay
for
that.
That's
not
envisioned
here,
and
so
it
it
it.
G
It
calls
for
a
longer-term
plan
and
and
some
creative
thinking
about
a
fund
some
of
these
improvements
and
as
that
staff
is
gonna
deal
with
a
lot
of
that
in
the
final
report.
The
final
Park
master
plan,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
take
some
creativity
on
the
part
of
all
involved.
Maybe
that's
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
I
Thanks
no
I'm
good
appreciate
it.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
give
a
few
remarks
from
the
Park
and
Rec
Commission
perspective
and
I
know.
There's
been
some
questions
about
how
we've
been
looking
at
this
these
issues
just
a
reminder
since
I've
been
on
the
park
and
Rec
Commission
about
five
years.
I
Looking
at
the
policy
framework,
we
have
a
lot
of
multi-faceted
objectives
that
I
think
have
been
laid
out:
enhancing
open
space,
environmental
protection
from
Four,
Mile,
Run,
preservation
of
trees,
creating
casual
use,
opportunities
and
natural
settings
supporting
sports
activities,
including
the
diamond
sports,
possible
rectangular
field,
sports
and
I
think
we've
got
some
options
there,
supporting
existing
casual
basketball
and
tennis
facilities
and,
of
course,
with
adequate
fencing
for
safety.
We've
supported
improvement
of
the
dog
park
and
acknowledging
the
growing
demand
for
that
throughout
the
county.
I
Improved
safe,
approved
and
safe
playgrounds
picnicking
for
park
visitors,
important
thing
that
we
found
out
both
in
parks
and
other
aspects
throughout
the
county.
I
know
you've
all
been
familiar
with.
This
is
just
focusing
on
the
ease
of
connections
to
and
from
the,
for
example,
a
park
for
all
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
ease
of
connections
within
the
park.
I
I
know
that's
come
out
in
some
of
our
discussions
and
then
you
know
it's
been
alluded
to
adequate
and
convenient
parking
for
park
users
and
then
finally,
a
broader
issue
was,
is
paying
attention
to
the
neighborhood
needs
and
concerns,
while
acknowledging
Jenny
Dean
Park
as
a
park
used
by
residents,
countywide
and
I
think
there's
obvious
that
tension
that
that
we're
dealing
with
nowadays
on
parks.
Now
the
one
thing
I
think
in
terms
I
guess
from
a
process
perspective,
it's
important.
The
Park
and
Rec
Commission
has
had
representation
for
it.
I
At
that
time,
that's
the
the
Jenny
Dean
Park
committee
had
been
reviewing
and
using
an
earlier
draft
version
of
the
jenny
committee.
We
reviewed
the
options
and
there
was
a
in
the
end.
I
felt
there
was
not
a
you
know
in
the
discussions.
There
wasn't
a
real
strong
objection
to
either
option
from
members
of
the
Commission.
I
Now,
after
that,
I
heard
very
strongly
from
several
sources
very
concerned
that
they
hadn't
been
notified
of
the
agenda
of
our
meeting
and
that
several
points,
notably
those
from
the
Shirlington
and
Douglas
Park
Civic
Association,
had
not
been
presented
during
our
discussions.
There
was
also
concern
that
I've
heard
that
our
discussions
were
premature.
Given
the
Jenny
Dean
Park
committee,
hadn't
completed
its
work
and
I
acknowledge
those
criticisms
and
comments
and
I
tried
to
forward
them
all
to
our
commissioners
and
I
had
a
couple
of
Commissioners
who
came
back
and
said?
I
Oh,
you
know
we
should
rescind
this
vote
another
one
saying.
Yes,
it's
important
to
reminder
of
making
sure
that
we
have
all
the
views,
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
to
everybody
about
that.
That's
what
we've
been
trying
to
deal
with
and
looking
at
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that
and
if
you
have
any
other
questions
in
that
regard,
just
a
couple
of
other
thoughts.
So
I
have
broader
perspective.
I
We
again-
and
it's
been
mentioned
mr.
Mountford
mentioned
just
I-
think
strong
support
for
the
Shirlington
Park
renovations
and,
on
the
other
side
of
for
a
mile
run
and-
and
we
also
applaud
the
planned
improvements
at
all-
a
freed
Park
that
I
don't
know
if
they
were
discussed
thoroughly,
but
they're
proposed
I
understand
the
framework
in
terms
of
I
just
wanted
to
say
another
time
terms
of
the
to
block
area
for
West
of
Nelson.
I
The
Commission
still
has
concerns
on
the
Denis
on
the
decision
to
reposition
these
County
properties,
away
from
the
originally
intended
use,
which
is
expansion
of
Jenny
Dean
Park,
and
it's
probably
where
we
got
the
the
strongest
amount
of
common
passion
or
concern
amongst
of
Park
and
Rec
commissioners
and
again
now,
we've
seen
we've
gone
back
and
forth
on
it
in
terms
of
it.
One
point
came
back:
oh
you're
gonna
propose
green
space
in
there
that
area
for
those
those
former
properties,
and
now
it's
it's.
I
A
removal
of
the
area
from
the
park,
planning
area
and
I
know
as
you
as
planning
commissioners
will
appreciate
it.
You
know
we
had
a.
We
had
to
plan
to
do
some
planning
and
now
we're
getting
rid
of
that
plan,
and
so,
as
you
know,
sometimes
we
we
get
bothered
if
we're
heading
down
a
certain
direction
and
then
things
are
changed
now
we
at
least
support
future
use
of
those
properties
being
kept
as
to
be
determined
and
and
I
think
we
appreciate
what
we
see
in
the
language
they're
given
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainties
about.
I
What's
going
to
happen
here,
and
we
don't
want
option,
we
hope
would
be
constructed
of
the
property
for
outdoor
recreation
and
open
space.
At
least
some
of
that
and
now
I
have
to
say
this
and
from
my
perspective,
if
it's
meant
to
end
up
being
some
arts,
business,
district
arts,
industrial
district,
one
could
see
a
very
nice
public,
open
space
or
Plaza
there,
and
that
type
of
thing
you
can
imagine
thinking
of
successful
areas
like
this,
that
you
could
have
a
place.
I
I
Working
with
you
on
some
of
the
you
know
the
private,
privately
owned
public
spaces
and
then
finally
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
that
we'd
like
to
fully
support
the
boards
February
statement
from
it's
working
session,
that
looking
for
seeking
other
open
up
continue
to
seek
other
open
space
opportunities
and
in
the
in
this
area,
just
such
as
along
Shirlington,
Road
and
I.
Think
some
suggestions
have
been
made
for
possibilities
there,
so
I
think
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
Thanks.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
very
full
report.
We
appreciate
hearing
the
full
that
a
description
of
the
full
gist
discussion.
That's
the
strength
of
Arlington
County,
particularly
when
we
really
are
mixing
uses.
I
just
want
to
plug
that
from
what
I've
seen
at
30,000
foot
level.
That's
what
we're
it
is
really
really
hard.
I
participated
in
some
of
the
beginning
working
groups
reviewing
the
area
and
what's
there
and
I
thought
that
was
going
to
be
the
biggest
challenge
and
I
think
we
really
are
meeting
it.
J
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
good
to
be
here.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
better
so
so,
like
like
the
Park
Commission,
the
Sports
Commission
has
been
a
part
of
the
Jenny
Dean
process.
Since
its
inception,
it's
been
a
long,
interesting
process
that
I've
learned
a
lot.
I
will
have
to
say
our
interest
have
been
predominantly
about
the
park
and
the
sports
amenities
in
the
park.
The
redesign
of
the
park
is
important
to
the
Sports
Commission
and
the
people
that
we
represent.
There
have
been
sports
activities
in
that
Park
for
over
75
years
they're.
J
J
The
county
boards
direction
for
the
working
group
is
something
that
I
have
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Reading
the
board
directed
that
the
master
plan
will
provide
a
vision
for
the
comprehensive
replacement
of
realignment
of
existing
park
features
in
the
addition
of
new
park
amenities
to
meet
the
growing
demand
for
active
and
passive
recreation,
cultural
resources
and
natural
resource
preservation.
The
first
part
of
that
charge,
the
replacement
and
realignment
of
existing
features.
The
Sports
Commission
reads
that
as
a
mandatory
minimum
outcome.
J
In
other
words,
if
we
do
nothing
else,
we
are
to
replace
what
is
already
there.
The
second
part
addressing
the
addition
of
new
park
amenities
to
meet
the
growing
demands
that
we
know
exist
in
Arlington.
We
see
that
as
an
important,
extremely
important
and
valuable
outcome
to
be
achieved
to
the
maximum
extent
possible,
but
not
at
the
expense
of
existing
amenities.
There's
a
balance
to
be
struck
between
preserving
and
expanding.
J
We
approached
this
project
with
the
assumption
and
conviction
that,
at
a
minimum,
all
existing
amenities
would
be
retained:
a
lighted
baseball
diamond,
a
lighted,
softball
field,
two
lighted,
tennis
courts
and
a
lighted
basketball
court.
There
were
plenty
of
discussions
in
the
working
group
about
whether
the
group
water
should
stick
to
that
charge.
Given
all
the
things
that
constituents
want
from
that
park,
as
Charles
mentioned,
it's
not
a
lot
of
space
and
we
want
a
lot
from
it.
J
It's
a
very
beloved
place
in
Arlington
I'm,
happy
to
say
that
I
believe
that
there
is
agreement
at
this
point
that
all
those
amenities
will
stay.
It
may
be
big
grudging
agreement
on
the
part
of
some
people,
but
it
is
nonetheless
agreement
that
those
amenities
are
going
to
stay
there
as
currently
configured.
The
question
for
us
now,
as
Charles
pointed
out,
is
what's
the
best
place
to
put
them,
and
when
should
we
put
them
there?
J
So
it's
really
a
question
of
where
and
and
what's
the
phasing
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
working
group
and
staff
and
consultants
have
worked
so
hard
to
explore
myriad
ways
in
which
the
park
could
be
organized.
I
can't
emphasize
enough
how
hard
some
very
smart
and
very
creative
people
have
worked
to
explore
every
feasible
design
option.
Those
of
us
on
the
sub
Johnny
Dean
Park
subcommittee,
experienced
firsthand
how
difficult
it
is
to
develop
a
layout
that
achieves
multi
objectives
at
a
site
with
so
many
constraints.
J
We
worked
in
a
collaborative
manner
under
Elizabeth
Karen's
expert
leadership.
Thank
you
very
much.
Elizabeth
and
I.
Think
we've
made
a
strong
contribution
to
the
overall
process
for
the
two
options
now
into
consideration.
The
Sports
Commission
strongly
supports
option.
1
I
cannot
say
that
we
unanimously
support
it
because
we
haven't
taken
a
vote
like
the
Park
Commission
has
done,
but
I've
pulled
my
members
about
the
two
options
from
the
subcommittee,
as
well
as
the
staff
policy
framework
to
give
them.
J
You
know
a
broad
range
of
things
to
consider
and
in
their
expressed
back
to
me,
they're
strong
and
sometimes
fervent
support
for
option
one.
The
primary
reason
for
their
support
was
that
option.
1
provides
the
maximum
number
of
sports
amenities
as
well
as
well
as
the
other
desired
park
elements
in
phase
1
and
makes
good
use
of
the
funding
that
is
now
available.
Although
option
2
provides
for
all
existing
amenities
in
phase
1,
commissioners
were
very
opposed
to
the
treatment
of
these
youth
baseball
diamond.
J
They
feel
that
the
lack
certainty
surrounding
further
acquisition
land
acquisition
in
the
park,
specifically
the
WIDA
building,
where
the
new
baseball,
the
baseball
diamond,
would
be
relocated,
puts
that
diamond
field
at
considerable
risk
of
never
being
improved.
This
is
a
heavily
used
amenity
whose
future
cannot
be
gambled.
They
told
me
in
a
temporary
field
is
not
acceptable.
J
Concerns
were
raised
about
the
orientation
of
the
field
in
the
policy
framework
when
it
was
presented
to
the
county
board
at
the
work
session.
I
believe
that
the
orientation
that
we
have
now
is
a
safer
orientation.
The
balls
that
would
be
hit
any
balls
that
would
be
hit
off
of
the
softball
diamond
would
be
headed
for
the
RPA,
which
would
hopefully
not
be
as
densely
populated
as
perhaps
a
playground,
for
example,
and
into
the
stream
and
and
it's
less
likely
that
there'll
be
a
lot
of
home,
runs
off
of
the
youth
baseball
diamond.
J
One
thing
that
I
did
want
to
mention
for
you
guys
to
think
about,
as
we
move
forward
with
this
project
is
that
we
had
talked
in
the
work
in
the
subcommittee
about
potentially
turfing
that
softball
diamond
as
a
way
to
make
it
a
really
truly
multi-use
facility
and
I'm
hopeful
that
that's
something
that
they'll
be
funding
for
further
option.
One
would
move
expeditiously
to
replace
all
of
the
outdated
light
fixtures
for
the
fields
and
courts
with
the
most
current
technology
available
option.
J
Two
instead
would
retain
several
as
older
features
around
the
youth
baseball
diamond
for
an
unknown
period
of
time.
Both
the
Knox
Civic
Association
and
the
Charlatans
Civic
Association
have
stated
their
strong
desire
to
see
the
current
lights
replaced
as
soon
as
possible
to
reduce
glare
and
light
spillage
on
the
existing
sports
amenities,
and
this
is
fully
accomplished
in
option
1.
There
are
other
aspects
of
option
when
the
sports
commission
favors,
not
the
least
of
which
is
the
copious
amount
of
contiguous
open
space,
but
would
be
provided
for
the
neighbors
and
the
overall
community.
J
We
hear
in
virtually
every
arlington
process
how
much
the
community
needs
and
wants
meaningful
sections
of
unprogrammed
open
green
space
and
the
Sports
Commission
supports
that
goal.
Option
1
provides
a
large
curved
swath
of
green
space
from
the
pedestrian
bridge
by
the
Shirlington
Park.
All
along
the
RPA,
and
up
to
an
along
four
mile
run,
drive
creating
a
tangible
link
between
the
two
adjacent
communities
option
to
basically
bisects
the
park
into
three
sections:
green
space
along
fromom,
Run,
Drive,
green
space
along
the
RPA
and
a
sport
Zone
in
the
middle.
J
We
believe
the
design
for
option
one
is
more
aesthetically
pleasing
and
will
provide
a
more
enjoyable
park
experience
for
decades
to
come.
The
Commission
does
have
concerns
about
both
options
on
currently
table.
As
built
mentioned.
We
are
disappointed
with
the
developments
that
concern
the
acquired
parcels
west
of
Nelson
Street.
We
thought
that
those
would
have
provided
for
an
opportunity
to
expand
both
park
and
recreation
space.
J
This
was
as
a
result
of
a
deliberate
and
strategic
acquisition
of
Park
of
property
to
expand
the
park
in
recognition
of
demonstrated
need
in
that
area
and
that
need
still
exists,
and
so
we're
disappointed
that,
with
the
way
that
things
turned
out-
and
we
you
know
remain
hopeful
as
bill
said
that
maybe
we'll
get
some
of
those
properties
for
park
and
recreation
purposes
down.
The
road
fencing
has
been
a
big
topic
of
discussion
for
the
baseball
diamond,
the
diamond
fields,
the
Sports
Commission
has
kind
of
been
I.
J
Think
we've
been
a
little
torn
into
by
some
of
the
developments
that
have
taken
place
on
fencing
in
Arlington.
As
I
said,
we
support
our
non
sports
neighbors,
getting
access
to
the
fields
and
using
them
when
they're
not
being
programmed.
The
concern
we
have
is
one
of
safety,
one
of
safety
and
one
of
maintenance,
and
so
the
experiment
currently
underway
at
Virginia
Highlands.
J
Finally,
we
have
concerns
about
parking.
We've
tried
as
hard
as
we
could
to
find
a
way
to
provide
enough
parking
in
the
right
locations.
We
didn't
feel
like
we
could
do
it
on
the
subcommittee
without
eating
away
parkland
and
I'm,
not
convinced
that
the
parking
lot
that
is
there
to
be
used
in
addition
to
street
parking.
It's
really
going
to
be
all
that
convenient
for
people,
and
so
that's
just
I
think
that's
something
that
that
is
an
ongoing
concern.
J
We
are
aware
of
the
strong
push
that
our
friends
in
the
Nok
Civic
Association,
and
particularly
in
the
sterlington
crest
town
house
across
from
the
park,
have
made
and
continue
to
make
for
a
large
section
of
uninterrupted
green
space
long
from
our
Run
Drive.
This
lends
them
leads
them
to
support
option
two
over
option.
One
I
want
to
be
clear
that
the
Sports
Commission
supports
the
expansion
of
open
space
as
much
as
possible,
but
we
believe
that
option
one
does
that
in
a
responsible
and
collaborative
manner
that
respects
all
pur
constituents.
A
K
K
They're
happy
to
be
here,
they
really
wanted
to
come
and
show
their
support
for
the
Arlington
community.
I
have
just
as
a
background.
I
have
lived
in
Arlington
for
19
years.
I'm
I
moved
here
as
a
young
professional
and
worked
here
for
many
years,
my
husband
in
Arlington,
and
we
have
since
lived
in
Farrington
and
The
Fairly
teams
made
for
13
years,
and
we
have
raised
our
family
there
because
we
love
it
so
much
and
we
love
Arlington.
We
love
what
Arlington
provides.
K
We
love
the
environment,
we
love
the
setting,
it's
wonderful,
and
so
many
friends
across
Quaker
Lane
have
tried
to
pull
us
to
Alexandria
and
we're
just
like.
We
cannot
leave
Arlington.
The
schools
are
phenomenal,
but
the
also
thing
that
we
love
about
it
is
the
recreational
aspects
that
Arlington
provides.
Our
children
from
I
mean
they're
huge
baseball
fans.
They
play
soccer
flag
football,
we
use
Barcroft
for
gymnastics.
K
We
use
the
pools,
it's
such
a
phenomenal
and
phenomenal
thing,
but
it
is
and
that
all
the
all
the
baseball
fields
are
over
utilized
I
mean
if
you
go
down
to
Jenny
Dean
Park,
specifically
every
night
we
had
a
game
there.
Last
night,
we're
gonna
have
a
game
there
on
Thursday,
Saturday
and
Monday
will
be
at
Jenny.
Dean,
Park
and
I
have
two
younger
kids
and
we
all
go
and
we
all
participate
as
a
family
and
enjoy
these
activities
as
a
family.
We
love
the
park,
we
love
the
field.
K
There
definitely
can
be
some
improvements
within
that
particular
field
and
the
amenities
that
go
especially
the
bathrooms,
but
we
love
it
and
it's
essential
and
we
use
we
I
mean
these.
This
is
kind
of
where
their
dreams
come
true,
as
community
members
in
Arlington
Virginia
it's
going
to
these
baseball
fields
and
going
and
having
these
moments
as
young
kids
and
feeling
that
crack
of
the
ball
and
seeing
those
lights
and
on
a
Friday
night
or
a
Thursday
night
or
a
Tuesday
night
or
a
Monday
night
or
going
to
practice.
K
It's
so
meaningful
to
those
of
us
who
are
live,
live
in
this
area
and
who
are
choosing
to
live
in
smaller
spaces
so
that
we
can
have
our
kids
experience.
What
we
can
experience
in
Arlington
that
you
can't
find
anywhere
else.
You
can't
go
into
Vienna.
You
can't
go
to
Fairfax,
you
can't
go
to
Annandale.
You
can't
go
to
our
Alexandria,
it's
only
an
Arlington
that
you
can
find
this
close-knit
community.
Just
the
other
day
we
were
driving
to
his
baseball
game
and
he
said
mom.
K
Do
you
know
how
many
friends
I've
made
through
the
baseball
community?
Isn't
it
great
that
I
can
make
so
many
friends
as
I
play
baseball
and
it
is
true:
we've
made
friends
both
my
husband
and
I,
and
our
children
as
we've
been
able
to
compete
to
be
a
part
of
this
Arlington
Little
League
baseball
program
that
we
have
been
for
the
last
five
years.
So
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
we
excuse
me.
K
We
support
option
one
and
really
want
that
and
many
of
the
other
families
in
Abington
as
well,
who
are
at
baseball
activities
this
evening
that
couldn't
come.
There's
seven
total
heads,
but
we
thought
that
might
be
a
little
much
to
reach
to
the
meeting
this
evening,
but
we
just
want
you
to
know
how
much
we
appreciate
that
space
down
there,
how
much
it
means
to
our
families
and
how
much
we
love
it
as
a
community
and
as
an
organization
and
as
families
to
be
able
to
go
and
to
have
such
wonderful
time
as
a
family.
L
Madam
chair
commissioners,
thank
you
very
much
for
having
us
I
come
as
the
president
of
the
Shirlington
Civic
Association,
a
member
of
the
working
group
on
four
mile
run,
as
well
as
a
former
member
of
the
parks
Commission
mr.
Ross,
who
only
stepped
out
so
I,
could
serve
on
the
working
group
because
I
could
not
do
both
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
actually
a
really
impressive
interdisciplinary
effort.
I
mean
a
first
kind
of
thing
and
they
really
have
worked
together
in
the
most
admirable
way.
L
I
know
it's
made
things
more
complicated,
but
we
are
very
impressed
and
grateful
the
Shirlington
Civic
Association,
along
with
the
Douglas
Park
Civic
Association,
released
a
statement
last
week.
We
try
and
do
things
in
writing
for
clarity
and
transparency
also
with
our
members.
So
they
know
what
we're
up
to
it's
included
in
your
packet
and
I
will
not
go
into
great
detail
here.
L
The
we
find
at
this
point
for
the
park
of
Jenny
Dean
that
option
one
gives
95%
of
what's
needed
in
phase
one.
We
think
that's
it
in
essence
can
be
summed
up
as
best
design
overall,
attractive
layout.
Strong
will.
Work
gets
rid
of
awkward
spaces
and
some
of
the
things
we've
put
up
with
for
so
long.
It
works
for
the
most
people
and
the
most
neighborhoods
strongly.
L
L
With
regard
to
option
two
option:
two
keeps
one
set
of
the
oldest
field
lights
in
the
county.
They
are
on
right
now:
I
love
watching
the
kids
out
playing
and
the
adult
softball,
but
those
field
lights
when
there's
money
in
the
CIP
to
replace
them
in
the
near
term.
Those
people
have
to
get
in
cars
and
go
and
turn
them
off
folks,
maybe
if
they
don't
have
other
things
to
do
they
stay
on
all
the
time
they
shine
like
this,
and
it's
just
not
acceptable.
L
We
have
businesses
along
South,
Arlington,
Mill
Drive,
who
are
in
the
process
of
writing.
You
I
think
one
wrote
today
saying
this
is
really
hard
for
us
and
finally,
postponing
the
Little
League
field,
just
just
doesn't
make
sense.
I
will
close
with
two
things.
One
is.
We
feel
a
little
sad
that
somehow
we're
supposed
to
have
to
come
to
meetings
and
justify
as
Shirlington
that
we
live
right
next
to
this
park.
It's
our
only
Park,
all
right
and
neighborhood
is
a
big
concept
in
Arlington.
L
We're
in
this
neighborhood,
so
I
rode
in
are
now
and
I'll
close
as
Arlington's
population
and
density
increases,
something
everyone
keeps
telling
us.
The
demand
for
Park
and
recreations
space
is
shooting
up.
No
one
neighborhood
owns
these
parks,
so
let's
focus
on
the
future.
We
need
to
build
together.
Let's
share
thank.
M
Thank
you,
hello,
madam
chair
members
of
excuse
me
members
of
the
Commission
I'm
Robyn
Stambler
I
am
vice
chair
of
the
working
group,
but
I'm
not
here
in
that
capacity
today.
Actually
I'm
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
Portia
Clark,
who
has
a
conflict
and
wasn't
able
to
be
here.
Portia
is
the
president
of
the
Nok
Civic
Association,
so
I
offer
these
remarks
on
her
behalf.
The
Knox
Civic
Association
respectfully
requests
a
change
to
the
RTA
regarding
the
matter
of
the
design
of
Jenny
Dean
Park
as
written
the
RTA
limits
action
on
this
matter.
M
The
RTA
report
in
front
of
you
says,
quote:
documents
to
j-p-j
DPC
concepts
for
the
board's
consideration.
End
quote,
however,
the
board
will
not
be
provided
with
these
two
options
or
even
an
alternative.
Since
the
RTA
states,
that
quote
only
one
Jenny
Dean
Park
concept
plan
recommendation
will
be
included
for
County
Board
consideration
in
May
end
quote,
so
you
can
see.
There's
a
conflict
here.
The
RTA
as
written,
appears
to
tie
the
hands
of
the
public
and
does
not
permit
our
elected
officials
to
make
a
decision
on
these
options.
M
It
would
relegate
the
matter
without
a
vote
to
County
staff.
We
urge
you
to
amend
the
RTA
to
allow
the
county
board
to
consider
at
a
minimum
both
options.
This
would
not
only
add
value
to
the
deliberations,
but
would
allow
for
transparency
and
democratic
action
on
the
matter.
So
we
ask
that
you
consider
this
action
as
you
move
forward
on
the
RTA.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
N
Good
evening
hi
good
evening,
everybody,
my
name
is
Megan
Lynch
I'm,
the
vice
president
of
the
Douglas
Park
Civic
Association
I,
am
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
Adam
Henderson,
our
president
and
on
behalf
of
my
neighborhood
Douglas
Park
is
one
of
three
civic
associations
appointed
to
the
Four
Mile
Run
working
group,
our
representative,
as
Adam
Henderson
and
I,
wanted
to
come
here
tonight
to
talk
to
you
about
the
considerations
that
you've
all
been
discussing
tonight.
We've
watched
with
interest
and
anticipation
as
the
policy
framework
has
been
developed.
We're
eagerly
awaiting
the
results
are
the
decision.
N
Although
Douglas
Park
lies
at
the
western
end
of
the
study
area,
our
residents
are
regular
users
of
the
amenities
within
the
area.
I
myself,
my
husband
and
my
two
children
and
my
dog
make
the
trek
from
Douglas
Park
every
single
weekend
down
to
the
dog
park
and
Ginny
Dean
Park
and
then
across
to
Shirlington,
and
that's
just
our
little
routine
and
we
love
it.
In
addition,
we
have
refree
Qin
the
the
businesses.
The
long
four
mile
run,
I
get
my
car
serviced.
There
I
take
my
jog
to
get
washed
at
the
muddy
mutt.
N
My
wedding
vendor
for
the
caterer
was
right
on
four
mile
run
main
event:
caterers.
They
did
awesome.
So
obviously,
I
have
a
vested
interest
in
the
area
on
March
22nd,
the
Douglas
Park
Civic,
Association
Executive
Committee
met,
and
we
considered
the
two
concepts
and
the
first
thing
I
looked
at
as
mom
with
two
small
children.
Where
is
the
playground?
Where
is
the
playground
and
I
saw
the
option?
One
or
concept
when
I
guess
is?
N
The
playground
is
adjacent
to
the
bathrooms
and
the
Little
League
diamond,
which
I
thought
was
perfect
because
oftentimes
every
single
weekend,
when
I'm
there
I
see
parents
toggling
between
the
Little,
League
diamond
and
the
playground.
One
kid
is
playing
ball.
The
other
kids
are
climbing
on
the
monkey
bars,
so
I
thought,
okay
ooh.
That
will
accommodate
me
in
my
needs
personally,
but
then
further
upon
further
discussion,
we
just
looked
at
the
logistics.
More
importantly,
the
completion
of
concept
two
is
contingent
on
multiple
things.
N
In
addition
to
the
bond
funding
that
is
needed,
WETA
needs
to
relocate
its
studios
and
we
need
to
acquire
two
more
parcels.
None
of
this
is
guaranteed
so
simply
put
concept.
One
gives
the
valley
more
amenities
in
a
better
configuration
in
phase
one
which
can
be
accomplished
with
the
existing
space
and
the
existing
money
that
has
been
allocated.
So
these
are,
among
many
reasons,
that
we
voted
unanimously
to
endorse
concept
one
virginity
in
park
beyond
June
18.
There
are
other
things
that
are
important
to
Douglas
Park
and
indeed,
all
visitors
going
to
that
area.
N
We
need
to
be
able
to
walk
safely
easily
unpleasantly
a
long
four
mile
run
with
jog,
with
stroller
with
coffee
in
hand.
Everything
and
the
county
needs
to
commit
to
new,
continuous
sidewalks
from
Walter
Reed
Drive
along
the
length
of
Four
Mile
Run
Drive
and
improve
the
crossings
along
four
mile
run,
drive
itself,
which
I
saw
was
done
in
the
plants
which
looked
very
nice.
N
We
also
need
good
signage
along
the
wo
&
D
trail
along
four
mile
run
to
indicate
that
those
amenities
are
available
to
passerby
as
people
from
our
community
or
people
just
going
through
on
the
Wold
trail,
as
the
valley
becomes
even
more
a
destination
for
all
of
us.
We
need
a
strong
committee
to
remedy
the
safety
issues
for
cyclists,
pedestrians
and
other
trail
users,
and
we
hope
that
moving
forward
you
take
into
consideration
all
of
our
our
thoughts
and
deliberations
on
this
matter.
So
thank
you.
O
I'm
Jim
Harris
from
North
Carrollton
and
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
and
a
number
of
residents
of
Miami
in
school
neighborhood.
The
four
mile
run
policy
framework
can
best
be
understood
in
the
context
of
Arlington
County
government
being
controlled
by
one
political
party
for
almost
four
decades
and
has
for
at
least
the
past
30
years
embraced.
New
Urbanism
is
its
sole
planning
paradigm
concomitant
Lee
County
government
has
embraced
development
for
the
sake
of
development
and
mixed-use
redevelopment
as
a
primary
means
of
establishing
social,
economic
and
political
hegemony
over
the
county
and
its
residents.
O
Two
observers
from
both
inside
and
outside
Arlington
County
government
has
become
increasingly
authoritarian,
with
more
decisions
made
in
secret
with
all
power
vested
in
residents
and
non-residents,
who
adhere
to
the
controlling
political,
social
and
economic
ideologies.
The
controlling
political
party
retains
hegemony
by
rewarding,
select
constituencies
with
taxpayer-funded
projects
and
programs,
although
new
urbanism
is
marketed
as
an
adaptive,
reuse
and
repurposing
of
older
neighborhoods.
O
The
Nexus
of
the
Four
Mile
Run
policy
framework
was
the
result
of
another,
largely
industrial
neighborhood,
allowed
to
deteriorate
for
decades.
Several
longtime
kin,
longtime
constituencies,
eg
arts
organizations
and
sports
organizations
secretly
approached
the
Callaghan
County
Board
of
Supervisors
County
Board,
and
demanded
greatly
increased
infrastructure
for
their
programs.
O
Several
members
of
the
county
board
agreed
and,
as
usual
redevelopment
was
handed
over
to
County
staff,
to
facilitate
a
committee
packed
with
the
majority
of
New
Urbanism
adherents
was
formed
ie,
the
four
mile
run
Valley
working
group
with
current
residents
and
existing
industrial
businesses
in
the
minority
their
needs
could
be
ignored.
Consequently,
most
industrial
small
businesses
will
be
gentrified
out
of
the
four
mile
run
valley
to
create
a
regional
arts
district
in
a
regional
outdoor
sports
facility
and
expensive
mixed-use
redevelopment
will
be
imposed
on
the
Shirlington,
not
residential,
neighborhood.
P
P
But
it's
also
our
last
role,
opportunity
to
plan
a
park
and
do
it
really
well
and
I've
been
looking
at
this
since
I've
been
involved
in
the
park
and
Rec
Commission
for
many
many
years,
and
we
was
always
in
the
CIP
as
far
as
on
the
list
on
the
list
and
finally,
we
have
that
opportunity
and
I
think
we
were
all
very
excited
about
being
able
to
do
that.
But,
as
mr.
P
Ross
pointed
out,
we
were
all
very
disappointed
that
the
parcels
that
had
been
purchased
for
that
use
to
expand
the
park
were
not
included
that
made
the
park
planning
exceedingly
difficult,
trying
to
cram
all
of
these
various
uses
into
a
very
constrained
space.
So
that
has
made
the
process
more
difficult.
I'm
really
here,
not
so
much
as
the
former
chair
of
the
Park
and
Rec
Commission,
or
the
vice
chair
of
the
Four
Mile
Run
working
group.
P
I'm,
more
speaking
for
myself,
or
maybe
with
the
hat
of
the
the
Pops
advisory
group
and
the
two
of
our
members
on
the
Planning
Commission
have
been
very
involved
in
that,
and
we
appreciate
that.
But
one
of
the
principles
we
have
there,
as
you
well
know,
is
maximum
flexibility
of
space
and
a
huge
issue
has
been
the
casual
use
space.
And
how
do
we
develop
design
intentionally?
Do
this
going
forward?
P
P
Also
along
four
mile
run
drive
all
of
those
issues
have
been
addressed
in
option
one
and
you
may
not
exactly
the
way
they
wanted
them,
but
I
feel
like
it
was
really
a
strong
effort
and
for
those
who
spent
the
hours
and
again
I
commend
the
staff
as
well
for
the
tremendous
work
and
openness
and
creativity
to
really
see
if
we
could
come
up
with
something
that
would
work
and
be
the
best
for
the
most
people.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
your
all's
work
on
this
and.
A
I,
thank
you
for
your
also
for
your
dedicated
service
to
the
Pops
to
the
Four
Mile
Run
working
group.
We
really
appreciate
it.
Okay.
Is
that
the
end
of
public
speakers
all
right?
The
matter
is
now
with
the
Commission
here's
how
I'd
like
to
proceed.
First,
I
want
to
amend
what
I
said
and
I
should
know
better
I
think
we'll
probably
be
going
longer
than
two
hours.
Sorry
Richard.
A
We
will
go
as
long
as
we
need
to
because
I'd
like
the
commissioners
to
be
it's
a
lot
of
information.
As
you
know,
we
have
the
area
plan.
We
have
the
Park
Park
of
Jenny
Dean
Park
master
plan,
we'll
have
two
reports
from
our
liaison.
Commissioner
McSweeney
was
a
liaison
to
the
area
plan
and
Commissioner
Gearin
ran
chaired
the
Jenny
Dean
Park
master
plan
process
and
you've
heard
a
lot
of
about
that
tonight.
One
thing
I'd
like
to
clarify
before
we
go
there
is
that
we
will
be
making
a
recommendation
on
this
document
correct.
D
A
D
Certainly
III
think
there
there
is
a
little
bit
of
confusion
on
the
part
of
Portia,
Clark
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
her
yesterday.
So
to
be
clear,
what
we've
done
is
we've
requested
that
the
policy
framework
document
be
advertised
at
this
point,
and
so
there
are
two
concepts
in
there.
D
We
are
holding
the
conversation
open,
given
the
fact
that
the
working
group
hasn't
fully
considered
the
two
options
we
haven't
had
that
conversation
there,
their
preferences
haven't
been
stated,
so
we
and
we
understand
that
others
in
the
community
may
want
to
weigh
in
as
well.
So
what
we're
advertising
are
the
two
park
concepts?
What
the
staff
report
says,
however,
is
that
in
the
May
report
in
the
final
adoption
report
that
will
come
forward
in
May,
it
is
our
goal
as
staff
to
have
one
concept
based
on
the
input
that
we
are
now
receiving
right.
D
So
if,
if
tonight,
tomorrow
night
in
the
coming
days,
we
have
input
that
the
conversation
is
leading
in
one
direction
or
the
other
staff
would
prefer
to
make
a
recommendation
for
one
of
the
concepts
and
move
that
one
forward.
But
in
that
we
have
at
where
we're
choosing
at
this
point
to
advertise
both
the
the
the
board
has
every
opportunity
to
Pete
to
pick
either/or
in
May.
So
we're
you
know,
there's
not
really
an
issue
there
very.
A
Good
okay
I
wanted
to
just
get
that
clarified.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
So
now,
I'd
like
to
turn
to
Commissioner
McSweeney,
who
will
give
a
report
you've
all
seen
it
at
the
end.
She
has
some
suggested
topics
for
discussion,
but
I'd
like
Commissioner
McSweeney's
report
first
and
then
at
the
appropriate
time,
we'll
have
Commissioner
gear
and
give
her
report
and
then
go
to
Commission
discussion
that
sound
good.
Okay.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
and
because
I
am
cognizant
at
the
time
and
I
know
that
we
have
I'm
sure
we'll
have
a
very
fulsome
discussion.
I
will
not
take
a
lot
of
time
to
present
this
report.
I
do
think
that
both
the
staff
report
and
the
Chairman's
report
were
were
very
complete.
I
I
did
want
to
make
sure
that
I
take
an
opportunity
to
thank
staff
and
the
the
Chairman
and
the
co-chairs
of
the
committee
and
all
the
members
of
the
committee,
some
of
whom
were
here
tonight.
B
This
was
very
hard
work
and
it
was
almost
two
years
of
very
hard
work
and
many
many
moving
parts
and,
as
you
heard,
it
was
also
the
first
time
really
that
we
were
trying
to
plan
these
areas
that
the
county
was
trying
to
plan
these
areas
together
apart
an
area
plan
and
and
a
park
plan.
At
the
same
time,
I
did
want
to
underscore
for
my
fellow
commissioners
that
there
has.
The
working
group
has
met
an
average
of
twice
per
month.
B
There
has
been
a
lot
of
ample
opportunity,
I
think
for
people
to
weigh
in
I
know
we're
always
concerned
about
public
engagement
and
I
think
that
over
these
two
years
there
have
been
charettes.
There
have
been
two
work
sessions
with
the
county
board
and
there
have
been
obviously
a
large
number
of
public
meetings
and
notably
a
large
community
visioning
workshop.
Also
I.
B
Also
wanted
to
underscore
that
there
were
three
subcommittees
that
actually
did
some
work.
During
this
time.
The
Shirlington
dog
park
committee
was
mentioned.
They
presented
a
full
report
and,
as
you
heard,
they
concluded
concluded
that
leaving
the
dog
park
in
its
current
position
was
again
not
where
we
would
have
put
a
dog
park.
Perhaps,
but
the
mitigation
efforts
would
trigger
expensive
and
undesirable
changes
to
the
park,
and
so
there
really
are
no
substantive
changes
being
proposed
for
this
park.
B
It
was
formed
at
the
recommendation
of
the
chair
and
board
members
supported
it
during
the
last
work
session
to
resolve
the
issue
with
the
park
plans
that
had
been
put
forward
as
viewed
by
the
by
the
committee
or
the
working
group
and
Commissioner
Garin
chaired
that
subcommittee
and
has
provided
you
a
report
also
and
we'll
be
providing
one
tonight
and
the
formal
working
group
has
yet
to
weigh
in
on
the
work
of
this
group.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody,
so
they'll
be
discussing
the
report
tomorrow
night.
B
We
were
not
able
to
actually
meet
to
discuss
the
report
before
this,
and
so
there
are
some
issues
remaining
on
which
the
formal
working
group
up
to
hopefully
tomorrow
night
remains
divided.
Maybe
tomorrow,
night
I
think
everybody
will
come
to
agreement
on
these
items,
but
they
are
items
perhaps
that
we
should.
B
In
the
actual
report
and
arts,
the
arts
district
up
sorry,
implementation
concerns
have
been
raised
about
incentives
for
businesses
to
improve
the
facades,
as
we've
talked
about
a
lot
during
these
meetings
and
to
provide
technical
assistance
to
businesses
to
improve
stormwater
management.
So
even
if
their
properties
aren't
gonna
be
under
growing,
a
lot
of
renovation
there's
still
a
desire
to
do
some
improvement
of
stormwater
management
and-
and
there
has
been
some
concern
expressed
about
the
county's
ability
to
realize
the
vision
expressed
in
this
policy
framework
and
staff
has
indicated.
B
These
items
would
be
details
in
the
final
plan
document,
but
we
may
have
more
questions
about
that.
So,
in
terms
of
the
potential
discussion
for
tonight,
I
do
have
an
outline.
So
the
first
would
be
site
related
land
uses,
area
plan
parks
and
environmental
elements,
so
under
area
plan,
I
have
retaining
much
of
the
industrial
service,
commercial,
designation
throughout
the
area.
The
arts
and
industries
designation,
sorry,
I,
skipped,
County,
owned
properties
and
sub
area,
B
heights
and
sub
areas.
C
and
D.
B
The
county
recommended
use
in
sub
area
C
for
bus
parking,
sub
area,
D
broader
uses
limited
to
the
area
of
budding
NOC
and
limits.
Well,
it
could
limit
the
ability
to
subdivide
large
blocks
and
improve
site
circulation.
There
parks
and
environmental
issues
there's
been
a
thread
of
balance
of
casual
use
versus
program
use
throughout
environmental
issues
related
to
art,
the
RPA
erosion
flooding,
management
of
invasive
invasive
species
along
the
stream
and
water
quality.
B
A
B
You,
traffic
circulation
and
parking
elements.
The
road
diet,
that's
been
proposed,
general
parking
issues,
the
testing,
timing
and
implementation
of
the
proposals,
pedestrian
and
bike
experience,
including
safety
connectivity
to
stream
and
trails
from
Arlington
to
Alexandria
and
then
under
other
I,
have
started
the
list
with
economic,
economic
analysis
of
planned
viability,
incentives
for
businesses
to
improve
facades
and
stormwater
management
and
incentives
for
area
infrastructure
improvements.
B
A
You
thank
you
very,
very
much.
I
think
you've
absolutely
succinctly
covered
the
the
landscape
so
with
the
Commission
care
to
hear
Commissioner
Garon's
report,
or
shall
we
shall
we
do
that?
Would
you
like
to
do
that
now,
I
think
she'd
like
to
do
it
all
right,
carry
on
I,
think
I
think
we
we
can
sit
and
hear
you
now.
Okay,.
Q
Commissioner
McSweeney
made
it
sound
as
though
this
subcommittee
were
like
the
others,
but
this
subcommittee
was
on
a
very
accelerated
schedule.
So
thank
you
to
mr.
Rivero
for
public
noticing
our
meetings
at
the
last
minute
and
doing
all
of
that
in
finding
us
meeting
space
and
show
mr.
Smith
who's
not
here
tonight,
but
thank
you
very
much
DPR
for
letting
us
have
a
landscape
architect
to
translate
a
lot
of
what
we
were
describing
in
our
meetings
and
to
some
sort
of
visual
that
we
could
agree
upon
and
thank
you,
mr.
Q
tucker,
for
providing
this
overall
framework
and
answering
all
of
these
questions
about
process
and
keeping
us
in
line
so
miss
Stambler
knows
I
had
similar
questions
for
mr.
Tucker
yesterday
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
going
through
exactly
how
this
works,
making
sure
that
we
all
understood
how
the
RTI
works
within
our
traditional
planning
process.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
participants
in
the
formal
Vaughn
working
group
process.
Q
Q
And
then
you
have
an
abbreviated,
Planning
Commission
report
that
we
traditionally
give
each
other
when
we're
summarizing
something
from
a
larger
process
or
meeting,
and
that
has
a
sort
of
summary
of
the
concept
plans
and
discussion
points
in
it,
and
also
you
have
a
very
rough
chart
that
I
made
the
last
minute
to
help
us
keep
track
of.
What's
in
which
concept
plan.
So
I'll
give
you
a
little
more
background
on
this
committee
so
that
you
understand
where
we're
coming
from,
and
maybe
why
were
how
we've
moved
forward?
Q
As
Miss
Bravo
said:
the
casual
use
space,
the
adult
softball
in
the
youth
baseball
diamonds,
the
tennis
and
basketball
courts,
the
playground,
the
restroom,
the
picnic
area
and
the
committee
included
five
members
that
were
either
representatives
or
alternates
to
the
working
group.
So
we
were
familiar
with
the
process
to
that
point.
Our
direction
also
included
a
desire
from
the
county
from
the
board
direction
that
they
did
not
want
to
pay
for
citing
any
of
these
elements
twice.
Q
So
that's
something
that
I
really
need
to
underscore
here,
so
that
you
understand
why
these
concept
plans
look
the
way
that
they
do
so.
For
example,
we
couldn't
propose
putting
a
new
softball
field
and
phase
one
and
then
moving
that
same
softball
field
in
Phase,
two,
the
counties
being
very
generous
with
this
current
allocation
of
funds
in
fiscal
year
1920
in
the
CIP,
but
they
don't
want
to
have
to
pay
to
do
things
twice
charged
with
thinking
of
the
best
to
do
this
four
phases,
one
and
two.
Q
We
did
hold
four
meetings
in
the
space
of
little
more
than
a
month,
and
we
reviewed
the
history
of
the
concept
plans
and
discussed
and
said
a
lot
of
clarifying
information
from
staff
with
regard
to
the
size,
materials,
design
and
location
of
amenities.
And
again,
here,
I
have
to
thank
miss
brothel,
whose
chair
of
Sports
Commission
who's,
really
our
MVP.
Here
she
offered
to
walk
the
site
with
everyone
and
explain
how
some
things
could
fit
and
why
they
couldn't
go
there.
How
tall
netting
was.
Q
It
was
really
invaluable
for
those
of
us
who
haven't
played
these
sports
in
a
while,
and
she
did
come
up
with
some
of
these
ultra
constant
plans.
Even
though
they're,
not
maybe
in
sports
commissions
best
interest,
she
really
did
become
very
collaborative
and
helped
us
think
in
a
broader.
In
a
broader
way.
We
also
looked
at
pedestrian
biking,
stroller
access
and
travel
patterns
chew
and
thrown
the
park
from
the
various
entrances,
making
sure
that
the
various
communities
that
surround
the
park
all
have
equal
access
parking
options.
Q
As
you
heard,
that's
sort
of
an
outstanding
issue
as
well
safety
issues,
ways
to
activate
the
space
and
tire
to
the
community,
recognizing
its
historical
character
and
its
industrial
past.
Our
PA
protection
and
status
of
WETA
in
the
community
desire
from
multiple
welcoming
park,
entrances
and
other
issues,
and
the
committee
worked
with
staff
to
refine
these
concepts
and
to
create
a
new
plan
and
to
create
a
written
report
that
chronicles
our
work
in
comparison.
And
that's
with
that
larger
report
is.
Q
We
also
engaged
in
what
we
would
call
sort
of
our
Lego
process
where
we
asked
staff
and
they
were
very
responsive
to
create
a
large
version
of
the
renderings
and
cut
out
for
the
pieces
so
that
we
really
could
try
to
figure
out
where
things
could
go.
It
was
very
hands
on
over
the
course
of
our
meetings.
We
identified
several
key
issues
that
influenced
our
ultimate
constant
plan
designs
and
some
of
these
had
already
been
highlighted
in
the
policy
framework,
the
safety
of
the
park
users.
This
includes
field,
location
and
lighting.
Q
We
try
to
orient
field
so
that
the
Sun
isn't
in
the
eyes
of
the
players,
especially
for
younger
children,
pedestrian
and
bike
connections,
and
so
on
connectivity
through
the
site,
including
access
to
casual
use
space.
So
you
feel,
like
you,
have
a
lot
of
space
to
walk
through
activation
of
the
site
in
connection
to
the
community,
including
the
design
of
the
amenities
and
welcoming
entrance
is
a
desire
to
minimize
any
parklands
for
use
for
automobile
parking
and
the
cost
and
the
phasing
again,
and
that
had
to
do
with.
Q
We
were
only
we're
really
only
trying
to
cite
these
things
once
and
the
group
agreed
that
all
of
these
were
important
to
guide
our
discussions
going
forward.
So
both
concept
plans
or
options,
as
noted
I,
think
by
miss
Haynes,
responded
to
the
working
group
motions
to
provide
more
casual
use,
open
space
and
the
playground
closer
to
form
a
love
and
drive
both
of
them
do
that
the
committee
discussions
mostly
also
responded
to
the
other
motions
and
thus
recommended
that
future
park
design
when
we
get
into
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
may
be
designing.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Don't
phase
two
you
have
all
of
these
elements
in
different
locations
and
phase
one
for
concept
plan,
one,
the
refinement
of
the
staff
recommendation.
We
flipped
the
diamond
field,
so
the
youth
diamond
is
closer
to
formal
event
Drive
and
we've
minimized
the
out
of
play
area
around
the
diamonds.
In
order
to
maximize
the
open
space,
that's
closest
to
formal
run
drive.
It's
probably
a
little
bit
hard
to
remember
what
the
original
staff
recommendation
looked
like,
but
right
now.
Thank
you.
Q
The
third
base
is
seventy-five
feet
from
formal
event
Drive,
and
there
is
no
fence
along
the
third-base
line,
but
there
is
outfield
fencing
and
the
outfield
fencing
is
overlap
that
when
the
field
is
not
programmed,
you
can
run
through
it.
We
do
have
a
lot
to
accomplish
in
this
small
space
and
we
try
to
be
as
creative
as
possible
and
how
it
might
be
used
all
the
time
not
just
when
the
fields
are
programmed
and
you
know
not
just
in
great
weather.
Q
So
when
you're
looking
at
this
you're
imagining
the
third
baseline
does
not
have
a
fence
from
about
third
base
to
the
corner.
Is
that
right?
Mr.
Ferrell?
Thank
you
and
the
outfield
does
have
a
fence
and
you
can
sort
of
see
it
in
our
rendering,
where
the
it
jogs
a
little
bit
its
overlap.
So
a
lot
of
what
you're
gonna
hear
is
compromise.
We
kept
working
to
try
to
find
ways
to
address
a
lot
of
what
we'd
heard,
so
this
minimizes,
the
out
of
play
around
the
Diamonds
as
well.
Q
We
were
able
to
shave
a
little
bit
of
space
off
with
help
from
staff
who
aren't
here
tonight,
but
who
are
familiar
with
fields
talking
about
where
we
might
be
able
to
take
a
little
space
away:
option
concept,
plan,
one
sites,
one
tennis,
court
and
one
basketball
court
and
the
area
south
of
the
current
WETA
building
and
sites.
The
new
fenced
playground
and
restrooms
along
four
mile
run,
drive
and
phase
two.
Q
We
can
convert
the
basketball
court
to
a
second
tennis
court
and
site
a
new
basketball
court,
either
just
north
of
the
tennis
courts
or
adjacent
to
Shirlington
Road
parking
lot
and
a
larger
picnic,
pavilion
cluster,
picnic
tables
or
small
shelter
could
be
sited
in
either
phase.
So
the
concerns
here
are
that
the
distance
of
the
third
baseline
for
the
youth
baseball
diamond
is
75
feet
from
four
mile
run,
drive
and
there's
fencing,
although
overlap
fencing
and
the
outfield
there.
So
this
breaks
up
the
open
space
in
that
area.
Q
In
addition,
it
also
defers
cost
for
the
second
tennis
court
to
Phase
two.
So
we
do
get
one
tennis
court
here
we
don't
get
two
tennis
courts,
but
we
do
get
two
fully
functioning
fields.
The
youth
saw
baseball
diamond
in
the
adult,
softball
diamond
and,
and
the
lighter
green.
There
is
the
area
that
we
all
agreed.
If
this
works,
we
would
love
to
say
that
that
can
be
a
turf
practice
field
for
other
sports
again
trying
to
maximize
all
the
different
groups
who
would
be
able
to
use
this
space?
Q
The
second
concept
plan
will
call
the
new
concept
plan
or
concept
onto
sites.
The
adult
softball
diamond,
where
the
youth
diamond
is
now
moves
the
youth
diamond
temporarily
to
the
site
of
the
adult
softball
diamond.
So
it's
partially
in
the
our
PA,
which
we
are
trying
to
avoid,
and
it
has
minimal
renovations
and
amenities.
So
it's
not
going
to
get
updated
lighting,
there's
some
questions
about
whether
the
lighting
will
even
be
most
appropriate
for
the
youth
players,
because
we're
gonna
use
the
lighting.
That's
already.
Q
So
that
is
something
that
the
community
as
a
whole
has
wanted
us
to
address,
retains
both
tennis
courts
in
roughly
their
current
location,
sights
a
new
basketball
court,
just
northwest
of
the
current
location
and
sights
a
new
playground
and
restrooms
long,
formal,
Run,
Drive
and
in
Phase
two.
It
moves
and
fully
renovates
the
youth
baseball
diamond
into
the
current
location
of
the
WTA
building
and
its
sights
the
new
larger
shelter
just
just
south
of
the
youth
diamond
in
just
north
of
the
RPA.
Q
It
does
also
offer
fewer
opportunities
for
this
contiguous
casual
use,
open
space
along
the
riparian
area,
including
along
four
mile
run,
and
it
defers
opportunities
for
the
RP,
a
restoration
to
Phase
two
and
defers
major
cost
for
the
youth
diamond
to
Phase
two
as
well.
So
in
summary,
again,
the
easy
part
is
to
remember
then
phase
two.
Q
We
do
get
all
the
amenities,
including
two
tennis
courts,
basketball,
court,
both
diamonds
and
Phase,
two
they're
in
different
places,
a
very
different
layout
and
the
timing
is
definitely
an
issue
because
we
don't
know
when
phase
two
begins
phase
two
is
dependent
on
two
things:
the
disposition
of
the
weta
building
and
that's
the
value
part
of
our
community.
They
may
stay
in
this
location
and
decide
to
renovate
their
building.
There's
no
certainty
at
all
that
they
will
actually
leave,
and
we
don't
know
if
they
do
decide
to
move
it'll
be
three
years
or
twenty
years.
Q
Q
One
replaces
all
the
existing
lighting
in
phase
one
and
constant
plan
to
retain
some
of
the
existing
lighting
until
phase
two
console
plan.
One
is
configured
so
that
the
third
base
of
the
youth
baseball
diamond
is
75
feet
from
form
a
low-rent,
Drive
and
concept
plan.
Qu
doesn't
have
any
part
of
either
diamond
field
closer
than
150
feet,
150
feet
to
form.
Q
All-Around
drive
125
feet
in
Phase
two
for
the
courts,
constant
plan,
one
provides
for
the
large
shelter
and
phase
one
and
concert
plan,
two
delays
that
until
phase
two
and
constant
plan,
one
has
more
opportunities
for
continuous,
connected
casual
use,
open
space
along
the
riparian
area
and
continuing
into
the
space
long
form
element
drive,
there's
also
a
chart
that
I'm
Jeremy
Smith
provided
for
us.
That
shows
the
distances
between
these
different
amenities.
Some
of
these
questions
were
asked
at
our
last
committee
meeting.
We
wanted
some
clarification:
how
to
read
the
renderings,
how
to
share
them.
Q
One
thing
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
is
where
the
options
are
the
same
and
where
they're
different
they're
the
same
with
distance
from
the
playground
to
form
our
and
drive
with
walking
distance
from
the
corner
of
Shirlington
Road
to
form
our
and
drive
walking
distance
from
the
edge
of
the
pedestrian
bridge
to
the
playground
where
they
differ.
Is
the
distance
from
the
tennis
courts
to
form
over
and
drive
the
percentage
of
the
first
150
feet
of
frontage.
Q
Q
So
before
we
go
into
our
discussion
questions
in
addition
to
those
discussion
questions,
our
committee
also
raised
the
issues
and
they
were
outside
the
scope
of
what
we
were
supposed
to
do
address.
But
we
raised
the
issue
as
well
to
consider
other
sites
in
the
planning
area,
including
along
Shirlington
Road.
We
were
fortunate
to
have
people
on
the
working
group
who
are
wheelchairs,
who
keep
on
top
of
this,
and
let
us
know
these
are
other
sites
that
might
be
used
for
some
of
the
demand
that
we're
hearing
for
these
uses
and
a
desire
turned
future.
Q
Q
So
these
were
things
that
came
up
in
our
discussion
outside
the
scope
of
what
we
could
recommend
in
our
concept
plans,
as
we
go
forward
with
our
discussion
today,
I
think
what
we
should
be
thinking
about
as
commissioners
is
I
have
basically
five
things
here.
One
is
neighborhood
preferences.
This
park
is
meant
to
serve
the
county,
but
also
at
a
more
local
level.
It's
meant
to
serve
the
three
different
neighborhoods
that
surround
it
as
well,
and
we
heard
from
some
of
them
today.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
balance
of
providing
the
amenities.
Q
We
know
from
a
parallel
planning
process
that
the
county
is
undertaking
right
now,
updating
the
public
spaces
master
planner
pops.
That
not
only
is
there
a
lot
of
demand
for
program
space
the
highest
priority
that
we
hear-
and
this
is
in
surveys
and
charettes
at
meetings-
is
for
this
casual
use,
open
space,
the
timing
and
the
disposition
of
our
varied
value,
member
and
the
community
WETA,
and
the
timing
and
phasing
for
new
funding,
as
we
heard
and
what
can
get
done
in
phase
one
versus
what
can
be
done
at
some
future
point.
Q
We
have
money
allocated
now
for
phase
1
and,
as
Edie
said
you
know,
this
is
a
sure
bet
and
phase
2.
We
don't
know
when
that's
going
to
be,
and
we
don't
know
what
funds
will
be
available
to
implement
any
of
these
visions.
Another
option,
another
thing
that
we
might
want
to
consider
if
there's
any
value
to
prolonging
the
RTA
period.
Q
Sorry
so
that
there's
more
time
to
consider
this
and
I
just
want
to
summarize
since
I'm,
not
sure
we
all
had
a
chance
to
see
this
I
did
get
a
chance
to
go
through
the
packet
of
letters
that
were
sent
to
us
as
planning
commissioners
and
I.
Just
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
summarize
this.
For
us,
Commissioner
Guerin
could
there's
42
formal
comments.
There
39
are
from
parents
supporting
the
fields,
38
specifically
asked
for
option
1,
because
they
want
functional
youth,
softball
diamond
in
phase
1.
They
don't
want
it
to
be
taken
offline.
Q
A
You
thank
you
very
much.
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
do
now
is
to
return
to
Commissioner
McSweeney's
outline
and
here's
how
it's
on
page
2
of
her
report.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is,
let
me
just
lay
out
her
major
headings.
I
will
I'll
start
by
also
announcing
her
subheadings,
but
I
don't
want
to
constrain
the
conversation
too
much
and
there's
an
awful
lot
here
and
at
least,
let's
confine
ourselves
to
the
major
headings:
wonder:
site
land
use,
area,
plan
parks
and
environmental
elements.
A
R
You
chairman,
CEO
I,
had
a
question
for
staff
if
they
could
provide
some
clarity
for
me
with
respect
to
I,
guess
the
industrial
flex
that's
referenced
on
slide,
21
and
more
specifically,
how
that
industrial
flex
aligns
itself
with
the
page
42
initiatives
with
respect
to
preserving
the
existing
use.
And
then,
therefore,
why
are
we
using
industrial
flex
in
two
separate
areas,
both
B
and
as
far
as
I'm,
able
to
tell
in
C
and
D.
D
So,
instead
of
a
in
addition
to
warehousing
or
in
some
people's
mind
a
factory
space
or
make
a
something
of
that
nature,
spaces
where
there
are
maker
spaces,
where
artists
maybe
create
their
works
and
sell
their
works
and
the
new
technology
that
is
emerging
in
in
in
the
nation
in
the
world
where
there
are
different
types
of
the
idea
of
flexes
its
industrial
or
it's
more
heavy-duty
than
then
a
typical
office
building
might
be.
But
it's
there
is
an
office
component,
things
like
3d,
printing
and
things
of
that
nature.
D
S
D
S
S
I
mean
I
I
do
think,
since
you
do
have
a
future
heights
map,
obviously
its
retaining
the
current
zoning,
and
so
that's
not
changing
and
those
could
develop
today
to
that
height.
But
it
may
just
be
good
for
context
to
it.
If
you're
not
gonna,
do
a
Heights
map
and
I
understand
not
wanting
to
spend
kicks
off
resources,
but
maybe
the
introductory
portion
just
includes
some.
There
are
two
to
four
storeys
kind
of
existing
context
and
I.
T
T
T
As
well
as
when
things
have
just
started
on
their
own,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
we
keep
that
going
and
that
in
next
phase
that
when
we
start
to
do
the
planning,
we
think
of
ways
to
supplement
that
organic
nature
rather
than
to
replace
it,
we
don't
want
to
supplant
it
right
supplement,
but
not
supplant
and
and
encourage
it.
I
am
NOT
troubled
by
the
two
properties
that
the
county
has
purchased
with
the
notion
of
open
space.
T
I
know
it's
probably
a
trivial
matter,
but-
and
people
have
probably
said
this-
that
back
in
the
day,
arts
used
to
be
part
of
DPR
of
the
Park
section,
and
it
was
moved
to
AED
so
their
land
that
was
obtained
with
Park
funding
sort
of
you.
Could
you
could
talk
about
that?
It
could
be
for
the
arts.
We
also
don't
own
all
of
those
buildings
so
to
have
a
meaningful
part
of
contiguous
green
space
or
open
space.
T
There
is
not
yet
possible
and
again
given
funding
constraints
that
will
probably
be
coming
along
with
lots
of
demands
from
schools
in
other
places.
I,
don't
see
that
that
would
be
a
high
priority,
so
I'm
thank
I'm
grateful
to
staff
for
putting
in
a
marker
that
says.
Yes,
these
are
county
owned
and
this
was
for
parks,
but
right
now
we
can
keep
using
them
for
an
Arts
District.
So
I
thank
you
all
and
for
the
group
for
trying
to
strike
a
balance
and
and
have
a
way
forward.
T
A
You
Commissioner
Yamini
anyone
else
on
the
first
three
subjects
under
sight,
if
not
I
just
wanted
to
add
my
own
comment
about
how
excited
I
am
about
the
idea
of
keeping
things
as
they
are
and
improving
them
and
allowing
an
organic
development
of
uses
that
could
contain
a
gamut
from
industrial
to
industrial
service,
to
service,
to
arts
to
pubs.
I
think
we
don't
know
what
the
market
will
deliver
and
there,
of
course,
is
a
challenge
in
terms
of
incentivizing,
these
things
incentivizing,
but
not
making
a
rubber
stamp
and
and
over
prescribing
what
should
be
there.
A
So
I
think
this
is
really
really
exciting.
Recognizing
the
challenges
which
I
think
we
have
some
disk,
it
will
have
some
discussion
on
later.
I
am
just
persuaded
that
this
is
wonderful.
You
you
make
the
most
of
what
you
have
and
I
think
we
have
a
diamond
in
the
rough
and
I
really
look
forward
to
just
seeing
it
develop
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
comment.
Commissioner,
Hughes
sort.
R
Of
to
play
off
that,
because
I'm
I
am
also
happy
to
see
this
area
retain
for
nothing
more
to
remind
us.
The
High
Line
was
an
abandoned
rail
line
on
an
industrial
zone
that
was
later
transformed
into
a
park
we
will
have,
and-
and
one
of
the
things
that
will
I
will
talk
about
of
my
flows
and
Commons
is
my
concerns
that
this
plan
is
a
little
bit
myopic
in
the
sense
of
only
looking
at
the
short-term
versions
of
here.
R
In
the
respect
to
the
fact
that
the
Columbia
Pike
area
plan
will
add
40,000
new
housing
units,
and
with
that
plan
we
will
have
a
difficult
time
finding
locations,
barring
some
other
large
parcels
of
areas
of
opportunity
to
which
to
expand
our
diamonds
and
rectangle
opportunities
throughout
this
county.
But
that's
on
a
separate
note,
but
it
is
played
here
two
comments
with
respect
to
of
the
land
acquisition
and
the
park
usage.
But
I
have
no
objection
to
its
timber
usage.
As
arts
I
have
a
question
for
staff
with
respect
to
figure.
R
R
Is
there
any
sort
of
recollection
or
a
recognition
of
the
era
of
the
flood
map,
or
why
are
we
not
paying
more
attention
to
the
fact
that
these
properties
are
service,
light
industrial
for
varying
reasons,
number
one
of
which
we
don't
want
people's
homes
or
livelihoods
to
be
destroyed,
frequently
with
the
possibility
of
storms,
although
over
the
decades
we've
done
great
things
across
our
community?
The
storm
water
retention,
every
single
family
home
owner
has
to
endure
when
they
do
a
renovation
is
just
one
part
of
that.
R
D
I
think,
looking
at
this
area,
historic,
the
area
is
zoned
for
industrial
use,
most
likely
because
the
uses
were
there
before
we
had
even
zoning
and
land
use
controls
and
those
industrial
uses
were
there
because
of
the
railroad
and
because
of
the
stream.
So
you
can,
you
know
ship
your
goods
in,
and
you
can
put
your
waste
off
the
back
door
and
not
say
anything
anyway.
That
was
that
was
the
way
business
was
done
at
the
time.
D
So
I
think
that's
really
the
the
historical
genesis
of
this
area,
obviously
being
next
to
the
stream,
creates
some
challenges
and
so
they're.
There
we've
we've
discussed
in
our
process
the
impacts
of
the
floodplain.
A
lot
of
the
considerations
for
the
park
design
are
cognizant
of
that
understanding
that
we're
not
recommending
change
per
se
in
this
area,
in
that
the
existing
buildings
would
likely
stay
or
redevelopment
would
be
of
a
similar
nature.
A
I'd
like
to,
if
no
one
has
any
other
burning
questions
on
the
first
three
subjects:
I'd
like
to
move
to
the
second
three
Heights
in
sub
areas,
C
and
D,
single
county
use
recommended
in
sub
area
C.
That's
the
bus
parking
and
sub
area,
D
broader
uses,
limited
to
area
abutting,
knock
limits,
ability
to
subdivide
large
blocks
and
improve
site
circulation.
B
You
well
I
understand
what
Commissioner
Hughes
was
referring
to
before
in
a
different
part
of
Arlington.
I.
Do
think
that
the
heights
and
sub
areas
C
and
D,
particularly
having
heights
of
75
feet
and
suggesting
that
they
go
up
to
date,
120
near
395
and
the
single
county
use
recommended
sub
area.
C
are
really
tied
to
one
another
and
that
was
to
try
to
incentivize
the
county
or
on
that
lot
than
just
park
buses,
and
we
were
trying
to
to
facilitate
that
kind
of
thinking.
While.
D
But
in
the
in,
in
the
spirit
of
working
with
the
community
and
and
and
and
considering
that,
their
desire
and
the
for
some
sort
of
joint
use,
which
is
also
in
the
community
facility
study
and
J
FAC,
has
discussed
this
as
well.
We
don't
want
to
foreclose
on
the
opportunity
to
entertain
that
at
some
point
in
the
future.
So
if
the
funding
complications
can
be
worked
through
in
the
long
haul,
there
would
be
this
opportunity
for
some
other
use
of
the
site
in
addition
to
the
buses
being
on
the
site.
D
H
H
H
A
H
H
It
strikes
me
right
now:
it's
nothing
more
than
an
open
storm
sewer
and
yes,
it's
going
through
an
industrial
area
that
will
remain
industrial
but
at
the
same
time
shouldn't
we
have
at
least
a
long-term
vision
for
it
to
be
more
than
what
it
is.
It
is
vital
for
storm
storm
water
management,
but
there's
ways
to
do
storm
water
management,
they're
way
more
creative
than
a
concrete
trench,
and
if
we
could
put
the
vision
there
as
the
opportunities
arrive,
as
this
area
is
redeveloped,
we
can
jump
on
it
and
let
property
owners.
H
There
know
what
the
long-range
vision
is.
So
they
can
work
on
it
right
away,
we're
either
than
building
buildings
right
up
to
the
edge
and
continue
to
have
this
narrow
channel
that
is
presumably
going
to
be
flooding
more
and
more
as
climate
change
continues
continues,
along
with
more
extreme
events,
I'm
trying
to
look
for
right
now,
our
flood
plain
Maps
or
more
than
outdated.
If
you
go
ahead,
you
know
10
20
30
40
years.
H
D
I
think
that's
where
that
was
our
starting
point
of
staff
and
why
we
recommended
concept
2,
which
was
this
concept
on
the
on
the
bottom,
where
there
would
be
broader
uses
and
incentives
through
redevelopment
of
that
whole
sub
area
d.
So
the
two
benefits
of
redevelopment
in
this
area
would
be
the
ability
to
move
development
away
from
just
creating
the
breathing
space
and
the
access
to
get
in
there
and
ii
was
breaking
up
the
superblock
and
creating
more
opportunity
for.
D
Access
through
the
site,
both
vehicular
and
pedestrian,
but
in
recommending
that
and
following
up
on
that
concept
with
the
working
group
and
and
especially
the
NOC
community,
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
about
that
level
of
redevelopment
which,
given
today's
marking,
would
be
residential
development,
even
though
we
would
be
open
to
industrial
and
and
office
development,
etc.
We
would
most
likely
be
residential
development,
mixed-use
development,
so
that
creates
an
additional
strain
on
the
neighborhood
with,
and
that
was
their
thought.
D
And
then,
when
we
looked
at
the
transportation
impacts
of
that
level
of
development
there,
there
were
some
serious
concerns
that
we
had
in
terms
of
the
impacts
on
the
on
the
transportation
network.
So
we
had
to
back
away
from
that
and
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
with
modified
approach
where
we're
attempting
to
incentivize
the
development
that's
already
called
for
and
augment
the
development.
D
Removal
invasives
around
the
the
creeks,
so
those
things
are
you
know,
are
certainly
things
that
we
can
do
in
a
bar
right
setting
if
the
redevelopment
occurs.
But
in
the
absence
of
redevelopment
and
again
that
would
be
by
right,
then
the
buildings
are
gonna
be
where
they
are
and
and
the
access
to
the
stream
is
just
not
there
or
the
the
waterway.
The
county
does
not
have
any
easements
across
that
space,
so
we
don't
even
have
a
right
to
go
week.
D
We
can
go
in
and
look
at
it,
but
we
can't
do
any
repairs
to
it.
So
it's
something
that
what
we're
saying
in
the
in
the
framework
is
over
time
we'd
like
to
work
with
those
property
owners
to
get
the
access
that
we
need,
so
that
those
improvements
could
be
made.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
long-term
process.
U
I
was
curious
to
hear
more
about
the
knocked
Town
Center.
I
I
think
that's
outside
of
the
forum
RV
planning
area,
but
it
what
the
little
I
saw.
It
seems
to
be
some
sort
of
bioretention
area
or
related
to
stormwater
management
and
including
water.
In
the
plan,
I
was
wondering
how,
if
it
is
related
to
the
Four
Mile
Run
Drive
in
some
well.
D
To
different
things,
there's
the
the
not
revitalization
plan
which
addresses
the
many
of
the
commercial
and
residential
properties
along
Shirlington
Road,
which
is
adjacent
to
our
study
area
and
then
knock
branch,
which
is
a
tributary
to
four
mile
run
stream,
which
runs
through
some
of
the
industrial
properties
between
Shirlington,
Road
and
395.
So
there's
two
different
things
mm-hmm,
so
the
revitalization
plan
was
adopted
back
in
2004.
There
was
a
three
or
four
year
process,
starting
I
believe
in
2000
and
at
that
time.
D
Interestingly,
this
study
area
was
part
of
that
study
and
it
became
too
much
and
it
was
a
lot
going
on
with
the
county
at
the
time
it
was
a
number
of
planning
efforts
going
on,
and
so
the
planning
for
this
industrial
area,
which
we're
considering
now
was
severed
from
the
Nok
plan
and
not
plan,
went
forward
and
was
adopted
in
2004,
and
it's
been
since
then
that
we've
been
this.
This
plan
has
been
on
the
back
burner
and
we're
finally
getting
to
the
point
of
completing
it.
So.
U
D
Now
the
four
mile
run
stream
I
think
I
mentioned
before
is
a
in
this
stretch
is
a
hardened
structure,
so
there
are
much
more
dire
stretches
of
stream
or
waterways
in
the
county
that
are
higher
on
the
priority
list
for
action.
There
is
a
four
mile
run
revitalization
plan
for
the
stream
itself.
This
is
part
of
that,
or
this
really
deals
with
the
area
east
and
of
this
area,
that
that
study
stops
at
Shirlington
bridge.
D
But
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
are
considered
in
this
area
as
well
for
this
area
for
four
mile
run
stream,
what
we're
talking
about
is
getting
rid
of
invasives,
bolstering
the
vegetative
buffer
on
the
on
the
stream
bank,
but
otherwise
the
hardened
structure,
the
the
the
channel
that
is
there
remain,
will
remain
in
place.
Thank.
U
You
I
had
one
other
point
to
make
since
it's
it's
on
point
with
this
subject,
and
it
relates
to
some
things
I'm
doing
out
at
the
University
of
Maryland
College,
Park,
Golf
Course,
and
that
is
restoration
of
the
monarch
butterfly
community,
which
is
either
on
the
endangered
species
or
is
now
an
endangered
species.
It
strikes
me
as
you
work
on
form
form,
I'll,
run
stream
and
work
on
the
vegetated
banks
that
that
would
be
a
wonderful
place
to
integrate
milkweed
native
milkweed,
which
is
habitat
to
the
butterflies.
A
T
B
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
on
page
six
of
the
actual
policy
framework
I
think
that
Commissioner
Rick's
was
referring
to
the
knock
town
squares
concept
plan,
which
talks
about
a
BIOS
whale
and
a
bioretention
planner,
and
that's
part
of
that
swath
of
green
space
that
reaches
down
into
the
four
mile
run,
or
you
know
that
sort
of
introduces
perhaps
yeah.
A
A
R
Want
to
make
a
quick
comment
to
staff
on
reading
this
whole
document.
We
talked
a
great
deal
about
stormwater
management
in
this
document
and
I
hope
that
we
covered
it
within
the
the
study
area.
You
know
we
heard
the
tonight
from
neighbors
in
Farrington
and
Shirlington.
Everyone
talked
about
how
we
are
each
other's
neighbors,
and
this
is
what
a
what
a
better
place
than
this
area
plan.
R
We
missed
it
in
my
mind
to
have
told
the
community
how
the
improvements
outside
of
this
area
are
impacting
four
mile
run
right
here,
because
this
was
an
exceptionally
flood
prone
area
and
through
our
implementation
of
a
great
deal
of
the
stormwater
management
practice
has
done
throughout
the
county.
We
have
helped
that
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
reduce
the
impact
here.
So
we
talked
about
a
lot
how
we
can
do
some
little
changes
at
the
streambed.
R
We're
treating
the
water
does
the
least
to
benefit
the
whole
community
when
further
uphill
we're
doing
the
massive
good
work
to
that's,
helping
make
sure
that
less
water
is
coming
off
each
person's
property.
That's
that
common
cumulative
effect
that
gets
down
here
I
think
we
missed
an
opportunity
here
and
said.
That's
just
a
comment
for
staff,
because
we
talked
a
lot
about
stormwater
management
on
the
site
without
realizing
how
much
in
our
plans
outside
of
the
site
have
helped
this
site.
A
Anyone
else,
I
I,
do
have
a
comment
to
make.
I
was
kind
of
very
engaged
in
the
beginning.
As
of
citizen
watching
the
working
group
go
through
its
some
pieces
and
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
how
to
repair
the
dog
park
in
the
event
of
a
devastating
storm
which
would
create
under
as
I
understand
it
Chesapeake
Bay
rules
the
need
to
really
make
some
remediation,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
discovered
in
thinking
about
it
and
I
believe
I.
A
Don't
know
that
it
that
this
information
surfaced
officially
in
the
discussions
that
may
have
been
a
side
discussion
was
that
the
plan
that
would
require
the
the
rebuilding,
let's
say
or
planting
of
a
forest,
would
be
compromised
by
the
runoff
from
the
flat
roofs
of
the
properties
just
abutting
the
dog
park.
So
it
really
wasn't
a
viable
plan.
A
Improvements
like
rain
barrels
cisterns,
and
they
don't
really
know
how
expensive
they
are.
I,
don't
know
that
that
they're
terribly
expensive
that
those
kinds
of
small
measures
could
help
develop
a
forest
which
sucks
up
the
water,
and
so
you
don't
have
the
spillover
into
four
mile
run
down
into
the
Chesapeake.
So
I
want
to
hold
out
those
measures
and
they
compilation
of
those
measures,
as
it's
really
making
a
very
big
difference.
A
So
I'm
just
calling
out
the
the
value
of
small
things
and
that
kind
of
what
I
find
very
exciting
about
this
and
I
hope
it
builds
over
time
and
that
we
get
really
creative
about
what
are
those
small
things
we
can
do
so.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
coming
any
other
comments
on
three
subjects
about
C
and
D,
and
the
sub
areas
C
and
D.
Basically
anything
else,
I'm,
sorry
we're
in
parkson's.
A
Okay,
very
good.
Yes,
we
have
are
there
any
other
comments,
balance
of
casual
use
versus
program
use.
We've
talked
about
some
environmental
issues:
stormwater
management,
NOC
branch
stream,
access
improvements-
if
not,
let's
leave
Jenny
Dean
Park
design
off
and
go
to
traffic
circulation
and
parking.
Does
anybody
have
comments?
Commissioner
Glenn
tell
me
yeah.
H
Want
to
thank
the
the
working
group
for
addressing
we're
beginning
to
address
the
four
mile
run
drive
in
Shirlington
intersection,
where
the
bike
trail
comes
through,
have
been
used
that
many
times
with
all
the
curb
cuts.
Therefore,
the
concrete
plant,
the
gas
station,
the
roads,
the
weenie
beanie.
It's
really
not
good
for
everybody
who
uses
it
from
cars,
buses,
bicycles,
pedestrians,
people
walking
their
dogs,
it's
it's!
It's
not
it's
not
designed
optimally
for
anybody's
use,
so
focusing
on
that
as
an
area
for
improvement
is
something
that
is
very,
very
much
needed.
V
Gonna
handle
this
because
I
was
on
the
Commission
at
the
time,
although
I
was
not
able
to
be
present
at
that
meeting.
I
can
say
that
that
the
overwhelming
majority
of
members
of
the
Commission
that
I
spoke
with
and
myself
and
and
the
Commission
chair,
slat,
both
being
Chris
lab
both
having
been
an
alternate
member
and
member
respectively
of
the
working
group,
are
very
much
in
favor
of
the
raw
diet
would
rose.
V
It
raised
a
lot
of
concerns
during
the
March
meeting
about
decisions
about
the
likelihood
that
sparking
would
be
under
metered
in
this
area
that
you
know
there
was
concern
about
decisions
to
not
meet
her
parking
in
the
parking
lots,
for
instance
in
the
park.
While
there
was
also
a
conversation
about.
Where
is
the
parking
for
the
park
going
to
go?
V
Well,
the
the
two
questions
are
obviously
completely
inconsistent
with
each
other
and
the
one
answers
so
I
think
that
that
the
the
the
other
concerns
that
were
raised
just
in
terms
of
circulation
was
that
that
that
there
is
a
study
about
pedestrian
and
bike.
Lane
connections
coming
out
of
the
recommendations,
but
not
a
whole
lot
more.
In
terms
of
actual
pedestrian
or
bicycle
crossings,
there
was
a
desire
among
some
members
of
the
Commission
for
a
hawk
light.
For
instance,
at
Walter
Reed.
There
was
talk
about
the
need
for
an
additional
bridge
going
over
the
stream.
V
The
Ford
is
almost.
You
know
that
if
there's
been
rain
any
time
in
the
last
week
to
two
weeks,
the
the
Ford
is
fifty
percent
likely
to
be
crossable
at
all
limiting
pedestrian
connections
from
the
other
side
of
the
stream.
So
we
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
more,
but
and-
and
we
definitely
would
like
to
see
more
parking
management,
but
we
are
very
happy
about
the
road
diet
and
strongly
support
it
again.
That's
not
the
commission.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
S
E
Far
as
obviously,
if
you
look
at
this
as
a
framework
document
and
more
details
will
really
be
in
the
the
final
plan.
However,
what
we're
seeing
out
there
today
is
a
lot
of
vehicle
storage
and
it's
a
vehicle
storage.
These
vehicles
that
are
parked
there
for
multiple
days-
and
this
is
really
you
know.
E
One
of
our
goals
here
is
to
promote
turnover
so
different
ideas
that
could
be
implemented
is
you
could
do
sort
of
an
hourly
restriction,
so
vehicles
aren't
parked
there,
for
you
know
weeks
on
end,
often
there's
a
lot
of
commercial
vehicles
that
are
parked
today,
right
adjacent
to
Jenny,
Dean,
Park
and
they're
sort
of
they're
stored
there.
Well,
the
commercial
parking
could
go
further
west
west
of
Nelson
or
Oakland,
so
that
would
free
up
two
spaces
adjacent
to
the
park
for
some
sort
of
turnover.
E
I
A
E
A
It
isn't
I
mean
the
dog
park.
Parking
does
work
because
you
do
go
and
walk
your
dog
for
thirty
minutes
or
so
less,
maybe
a
little
more
I.
Don't
there
may
be
some
abuse,
but
it
it
actually
works
for
the
sports
activities.
I
think
that's
a
different
story,
but
there
are
different
uses
and
let
me
go
to
Commissioner
land.
Tell
me
you're.
H
Following
up
with
Commissioner
Searles
discussion
on
the
commercial
parking,
there,
I
do
notice
that
those
trucks
are
parked
there,
and
some
of
them
are
for
quite
a
while,
but
do
we
know
who
they
are,
because
they
could
very
well
be
small
businessmen
who
business
owners
who
live
here.
That
truck
is
their
business
and
they
live
there
or
they
live
in
the
county
and
there's
really
very
little
other
places
to
park
and
clearly
it's
an
artifact
of
it
being
industrially
zoned
that
these
big
trucks
you
fit.
That
usage
ultimately
do.
E
We've
done
a
number
of
observations
on
the
commercial
parking
you
know.
Often
these
vehicles
are
registered
in
Arlington,
it's
a
whole
mix
of
things,
many
times
they're
not
even
registered
in
Virginia,
so
we're
really
not
sure
who
is
actually
parking
them
there,
because
you
know
we
can
go
by
the
tag
or
by
the
sticker.
You
know
often
if
they
don't
have
a
Virginia
tag
and
not
at
Arlington
decal.
We
really
don't
know.
E
W
E
To
accommodate
that,
however,
we
really
don't
want
to
accommodate.
You
know:
vehicle
storage,
it's
one
thing:
if
someone
lives
in
the
area
and
has
a
commercial
vehicle
and
comes
in
there,
you
know
in
the
evening
and
then
moves
it
in
the
morning,
but
to
see
a
dump
truck
with
the
trailer
with
the
bulldozer
for
better
part
of
four
weeks.
You
know:
that's
that
storage,
that's
abusing.
H
That
drains
questions
and
that
that's
exactly.
Why
is
wondering,
because
you
could
see
good
reasons
why
it
could
be
there,
but
also
not
good
reasons
why
it
could
be
there
and
before
we
start
messing
around
with
things
or
at
least
restricting
I'd
want
to
know
more
about
who's,
doing
it
that
we
don't
end
up
harming
small
business
owners.
Our.
E
S
You,
madam
chair
I'd,
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
associate
myself
with
commissioner
lintel
nice
comments
about
formal
Ron
in
Shirlington,
Road,
I'm
glad
to
see
staffs.
Looking
at
that,
that's
that's
great
I!
Wonder
if
you
missed
your
best,
you
could
address
how
we're
gonna
be.
Excuse
me
how
we're
gonna
be
paying
for
some
of
these
pedestrian
improvements
along
formal
run.
S
E
Not
sure
about
that
one
realizing
a
lot
of
these
items
we
would
test.
We
would
do
this
in
sort
of
thermoplastic
and
paint
with
the
flexi.
You
know
batons
so
initially,
so
we
could
implement
things
within
a
year
or
two
or
three.
We
would
kind
of
do
it
on
a
trial
basis,
so
we
wouldn't
spend
a
lot
of
money
and
certainly
that
would
be
operating
money
des
transportation
and
operating
funds
where
we
go
in
and
sort
of
implement
something
on
a
test
basis.
Now,
if
it's
workable,
we
certainly
could
construct
that.
E
S
D
S
A
We
do
have
one
more
item
unless
there's
anything
else
on
transportation,
seeing
none.
We
do
have
one
more
item
before
we
go
to
Jenny
Dean
Park
concepts,
and
that
is
exactly
what
you
were
getting
at
commissioners
role
in
terms
of
the
economic
analysis,
the
incentives.
How
do
we
get
this
done
without
our
normal
redevelopment?
Bonus
density
for
Community,
Benefit
bargain,
so
I
think
what
you're
looking
for
is
maybe
some
suggestions
about
what
what
we
might
do
is
that
is
that
what
you
had
in
mind:
missioner
McSweeney,
when
you
put
this
down
on
our
agenda,
it.
B
A
A
A
P
So
I
don't
know
that
it
would
necessarily
go
to
some
of
the
other
items,
but
we
did
have
a
discussion
within
that,
though,
also
of,
are
there
some
kind
of
incentives
just
for
businesses
to
improve
the
outside
of
their
building
or
to
capture
some
rainwater?
Some
of
those
kind
of
things
you
know
is
there
something
in
economic
development
that
we
have
not
explored
that
we
ought
to
in
it
might
be
minor,
but
it
could
be
something
and
if
everybody
did
a
little
bit
of
something.
G
Terms
of
that
incentive
or
some
sort
of
incentive
program
for
businesses
to
to
improve.
Yes,
there
are
their
buildings
kind
of
used
to
have
something
like
that:
I
think
they
ended
it
because
the
cost,
but
one
way
to
do
this
here-
is
to
create
some
sort
of
incentive
program
that
only
applied
to
m1
districts,
m2
districts,
because
there
aren't
many
of
them
and
that
would
essentially
be
targeted
toward
toward
this
area.
What.
G
G
A
Think
that's
extremely
good
news
bids
can
do
as
a
student
of
Chris
Lineberger,
who
said
who
has
a
whole
presentation
on
the
benefit
of
place,
management
and
bids
and
combining
those
with
civic
associations
I
think
there
that's
something
one
would
want
to
look
into.
I
also
think
and
I'm
of
two
minds
about
this,
but
I
do
think
the
some
sort
of
fee
for
users
who
come,
who
are
not
our
linked
own
Ian's
or
maybe
we're
due
a
reduced
fee
for
Arlington
Ian's
I,
haven't
thought
it
through.
A
To
that
extent,
I
do
know
that
Keith
Fred
and
the
volunteers
who
are
tireless
and
I
have
to
say
miss
Wilson
who,
if
you
walk
with
miss
Wilson
through
the
dog
park,
she
will
pick
up
other
dog's
droppings
at
any
time
any
place
anywhere.
The
the
dedication
of
the
Arlington
dog
community
is
really
quite
extraordinary
and
I
think
there's.
There
are
some
things
that
can
be
done
to
sort
of
support
that
effort.
I,
don't
know
why
it's
funny.
A
A
B
You
so
I
was
happy
that
you
actually
raised
the
issue
of
technical
assistance
that
would
come
from
the
county,
because
I
think
that's
been
talked
about
quite
a
bit
or
at
least
suggested
in
meetings
of
the
working
group
and
staff
would
I.
Mr.
Tucker
would
I
expect
to
see
that
or
would
we
expect
to
see
that
in
the
implementation
plan,
rather
than
say
added
to
this
policy
framework,
as
it
goes
forward
to
the
board
I.
D
Think
it's
it's
mentioned
and
I'd
have
to
take
a
minute
to
find
it,
but
I
think
it's
mentioned
that
we
already
provide
technical
assistance
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that
in
this
particular
area,
so
that
you
know
there
is.
There
is
a
mechanism
and
there's
a
program
that
we
have
in
place
and
we
want
to
make
that
available
to
the
property
owners
in
this
area.
So
I
think
it's
mentioned
in
some
respect
in
the
in
the
framework.
A
Anyone
else
economics
before
we
go
to
Jenny
Dean
Park
I
I,
do
want
to
just
respond
to
Commissioner
Hugh's
comment
about
the
High,
Line
and
sort
of
lack
of
vision.
It
took
a
billion
dollars
from
a
I.
Think
bloomberg
may
have
been
part
of
this
from
a
group
of
very
wealthy
people,
putting
together
a
fund
to
do
the
High
Line
I'm,
a
New
Yorker
or
former
New
Yorker.
There
is
no
such
thing
as
a
former
New
Yorker,
but
if
there
were,
if
there
were
I
am
one
and
I
and
I
do
think
them.
A
The
parallels
often
aren't
as
instructive
as
they
might
be.
I
sit
at
your
feet
in
terms
of
your
the
overall
view
you
have
the
county
here.
I
would
just
disagree
that
the
small
things
really
can
lead
to
very
big
results
and
I
think
sometimes
that
that's
all
we
have
now.
Maybe
we
can
put
a
fund
together
and
I
think
we'll
look
for
the
implementation
part
of
the
plan
to
see
whether
maybe
you
have
some
ideas
on
that.
But
I
just
did
want
to
point
point
out
what
the
how
the
High
Line
got
got
put
together.
B
We
move
on
to
Jenny
Dean
I
did
just
want
to
I,
didn't
put
something
on
my
list
and
I
did
want
to
ask
about
the
secret
location.
You
did
mention
in
the
policy
framework
that
the
county
was
working
with,
seek
to
relocate
that
that
program.
Do
you
do
you
have
any
updates
on
that,
or
will
you
be
providing
them
tomorrow?
Night
I
was
just
curious.
B
D
Have
no
update
about
that?
That's
sort
of
a
longer
conversation
that
we
will
have
to
have
I
think
we
all
we
know
at
this
point
is
that
there
is
a
which
is
whenever
the
construction
starts
for
Ginny
Dean
park,
that
we
need
to
have
a
solution
in
place,
so
will
will
will
probably
take
every
minute
of
that
time
to
get
there.
A
V
Have
a
clarifying
question
and
I
spoke
with
one
of
my
fellow
commissioners
about
this,
but
I
want
to
ask
it
in
the
open
and
I
apologize
if
I
just
missed
the
answer,
but
am
I
right
that
in
inferring
that
the
Nok
civic
association
either
has
formally
or
almost
certainly
will
formally
endorse
the
second
option?
I.
T
I'll
go
up,
I'll
lead
off,
I
was
able
to
attend
two
of
the
Jenny
Dean
Park
subcommittee
meetings,
and
indeed
Commissioner
Garin
I
think
did
a
great
job
can,
as
well
as
the
other
members
that
I
observed
working
there
on
a
very
tight
timeframe
and
sometimes
having
less
time
really
concentrates
the
mind
and
that's
a
good
thing
so
to
the
notion
that
perhaps
the
RTA
period
should
be
extended
for
the
two
options.
I,
don't
agree
with
that
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
good
discussion.
I
think
it's
very
clear.
T
I
am
pleased
actually
that
in
an
RTA
we're
going
forward
with
some
options,
because
that
that
is
not
generally
the
case
with
RTA
is
just
like:
god
bless
you
of
mr.
best.
Just
you
know
in
general,
sometimes
Planning
Commission
doesn't
get
to
see
the
RTA.
So
this
is
really
good
that
we
we
get
to
debate
it,
that
there
options
going
forward.
The
County
Board
will
have
a
fulsome
discussion
on
it,
and
then
there
will
be
a
document
that
they
can
look
at.
T
We
will
discuss
it
again
may
and
will
go
for
approval
in
May
to
the
board
and
Miss
Smith
or
mr.
Tucker
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
this
particular
plan
is
a
little.
This
RTA's
a
little
different
than
what
we
see
if
we
do
zoning
language
right,
because
there's
a
real
scope
there,
if
you
don't
have
particular
language
included
in
the
RTA,
the
board
is
not
able
to
expand
it
in
any
way.
T
I
had
forgotten
about
that.
That's
right,
you
would
have
to
react
vert
eyes.
So
with
a
document
like
this,
we
really
are
not
bound
by
those
rules.
So
there
is
the
possibility.
I
would
suggest
that
even
between
the
adoption
of
the
RTA
and
board
action
that
there's
there
could
still
be
some
more
discussion,
not
that
one
necessarily
encourages
it
again.
One
is
focusing
on
this,
but
because
of
the
nature
of
the
document
and
the
nature
of
the
RTA,
it's
a
little
different,
you're
correct
good,
so
that
that's
one
thing
as
we
go
along.
T
Knowing
you
know,
knowing
that
Commissioner
ware
has
has
brought
out
that
we
don't
think
that
the
immediate
neighbourhood
would
necessarily
be
for
option
one
and
in
Cherrydale
we
have
Oakland
mini
park
and
it
is
sits
within
our
neighborhood
boundaries
and
is
adjacent
to
single-family
houses,
and
it
is
home
to
a
youth
soccer
field
as
well
as
some
play
equipment
and
some
regular
open
space.
Mr.
T
Montfort
knows
it
well,
having
been
a
cherry
deal
neighbor,
and
there
is
that
use
that
is
so
embedded
if
you
will
in
the
neighborhood
and
yet
accommodates
users
from
outside
the
neighborhood
in
a
way
in
a
play
area.
Excuse
me
in
a
field
situation,
and
that
is
not
uncommon
in
the
parks
that
we
have
in
so
you
know,
I
think
we
keep
that
in
mind
at
being
26
square
miles
and
and
being
very
difficult
and
expensive
to
keep
acquiring
land.
T
You
may
get
more
quickly
because
you
just
don't
know
what'll
happen,
and
they
are
there,
elements
on
which
everyone
agrees
and
I
really
like
that,
there's
open
space
and
that
there
is
a
buffer.
If
you
will
a
green
buffer
along
the
major
roadway,
which
of
course
then
has
the
trail
and
then
in
it,
so
there's
there's
quite
a
bit
of
space
here
that
it's
not
bumping
up
against
any
single-family
houses,
any
type
of
residential
use.
So
you
know
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
T
V
With
nearly
everything
commissioner
community,
that
you
just
said,
I
think,
except
for
your
conclusion
and
I'd
like
to
explain
why
you
know
this
is
a
conversation.
As
commisioner
alchemy
has
pointed
out
about
the
needs
of
balancing
about
how
to
balance
the
needs
of
the
county
as
a
whole,
with
the
needs
and
the
interests
of
a
neighborhood
and
I'm
thinking
about
parks
that
I
Drive
by
or
walk
by
or
bike
by
in
the
county.
That
really
impressed
me
or
that
we've
been
thinking
about
I.
V
Like
rocky
run
park
on
North
Barton
and
Fairfax
and
I
Drive
by
it
on
my
way
home
when,
when
driving
from
the
metro
or
and
I
think
I,
think
or
I
Drive
by
hunter
dog
park
in
Clarendon
and
I,
think
that's
a
great
park
and
then
I
reflect
on
some
of
the
other
times
that
we've
confronted
this
sort
of
balancing
issue
between
a
neighborhood
and
and
the
needs
of
the
whole
county.
When
we
think
about
where
does
massing
get
built,
we
hear
too
much
massing
for
this
area
when
we're
asked
to
think
about.
V
V
Then
what
happens
in
phase
one
of
option
one,
and
it
just
so
happens
that
this
neighborhood
is
perhaps
uniquely
among
our
neighborhoods,
been
on
the
receiving
end
of
the
power
of
the
state
to
discriminate
and
to
segregate,
and
now
the
whole
county
is
saying.
We
really
need
these
ball
fields.
We're
gonna,
come
down
to
your
neighborhood
and
and
we're
gonna
put
our
feet
up
on
your
couch
and
I
am
extremely
concerned
about
what
it
means.
V
If
we
fail
to
give
the
same
credence
to
neighborhood
concerns
here
that
we
gave
to
neighborhood
concerns
in
Williamsburg
the
last
time
we
confronted
the
whole
arlington
versus
concerns
of
the
neighborhood
issue,
and
I
I
recognize
my
rhetorical
style,
I'm
more
animated,
I
sound,
more
animated
about
this
than
I
am
but
I
do
care
deeply
about
it
and
I
will
be
making
a
motion
to
to
amend
the
county
managers
resolution
expressing
a
preference
for
option.
Two
I'm
gonna
do
that
yet,
but
I
just.
A
I'm
gonna
turn
the
floor
over
to
my
fellow
commissioners,
but
I
do
want
to
correct
what
I
think
is
a
misconception
of
what
we
did
with
Williamsburg.
What
we
did
with
Williamsburg
was
we
did
not
prioritize
Williamsburg
over
the
rest
of
the
county.
We
said,
Williamsburg
is
part
of
the
rest
of
the
county,
and
until
we
had
a
Pop's
framework
with
which
to
evaluate
where
turf
and
lights
should
go,
we
really
weren't
in
a
position
to
make
a
judicious
decision.
A
I
I
really
do
reject
the
notion
that
we
prioritized
Williamsburg
over
the
rest
of
the
county.
We
didn't
have
enough
information,
we
had
an
ongoing
framework
discussion
and
we
felt
that
the
decision
should
be
part
of
a
larger
review
of
the
neighborhoods
in
the
county.
Yes,
neighborhoods
are
important
and
they
have
different
characters,
but
our
job
as
commissioners
is
to
balance
all
of
the
elements,
not
only
the
preference
of
a
single
neighborhood.
There
are
three
neighborhoods
involved
here:
Shirlington
the
lights
from
feels
go
to
those
apartments
in
Shirlington.
A
They
see
those
lights,
I,
don't
I,
don't
I
would
not
prioritize
one
neighborhood
over
the
other.
There
are
three
in
this
area:
they
suffer
the
same
parking
issues,
the
same
traffic
issues,
the
same
ugly
trucks
parking
along.
What
really
should
be
a
lovely
park,
so
I
I
wanted
to
just
correct.
What
I
really
do
think
is
a
misapprehension
of
what
the
Williamsburg
lighting
decision
was
and
expressed
my
own
way
of
looking
at
the
neighborhoods
and
the
impact
of
the
this
plan
on
the
three
neighborhoods
commissioner.
Oh
yes,
yeah.
U
You
get
the
most,
as
some
have
already
said,
we
get
the
most
and
phase
one
without
risk
of
phase
two.
Just
incase
phase
two
doesn't
happen.
I
was
gonna,
say
overwhelming
public
choice,
but
that
being
contention
now
it
minimizes
the
redo
of
facilities
were
not
moving
them
temporarily
and
moving
them
back.
Minimizes
RPA,
disturbance,
I
did
have
one
question,
though,
in
its
efficiency
of
layout,
you've
got
both
ball
fields
together
with
the
entrance
serving
both
the
ball
fields
will
be,
the
the
highest
use
and
the
users
will
have.
F
So
I
think
what
you're
referring
to
is
that
the
drop-off
area,
that's
right
at
the
corner
of
drop-off
right
so
yeah.
That
was
just
to
minimize
any
sort
of
backup
in
terms
of
having
folks
come
in
and
out
of
the
the
the
the
field
areas
for
whatever
games
that
they're
participating
in
providing
for
some
short-term
relief
for
people
to
drop
off
their
children
or
other
players.
That
would
be
using
these
fields
and
it
would
be
for
short
turnaround
in
and
out
of
the
of
the
space
minimizing.
F
U
B
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
respond
a
little
bit
to
you,
Commissioner,
where
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I,
don't
know
that
everybody
else
does
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
or
to
let
everybody
know,
I
think
what
you're
referring
to
in
terms
of
putting
your
feet
up
on
somebody
else's
couch.
I.
Think
what
you're
referring
to
is
the
fact
that
Jenny
Dean
Park
specifically
was
a
park.
During
the
era
of
segregation
were
african-american
students
our
children
could
actually
play.
B
Q
One
of
the
the
policy
framework
and
we've
noted
that,
as
it
goes
forward
for
more
specific
development,
Park
planning
things
like
the
fencing
around
the
playground
determined
to
reflect
the
history
or
the
industrial
character,
both
things
that
are
priorities
so
long
as
that's
the
way
in
accordance
with
the
community
participation.
At
that
time,
similar
to
the
artwork,
we
talked
about
durable
play
space
so.
B
To
continue
this
thought,
thank
you
very
much
to
continue
that
thought,
though
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
do
associate
myself
with
your
comments,
your
chairwoman
Siegel,
because
I
do
think
that
it
is
more
than
just
the
front
yet
I
mean
I.
I
agree.
It
is
the
front
yard
of
a
lot
of
the
Nok
neighborhood,
but
it's
also
the
front
yard
of
Shirlington
and
I.
Believe
we
heard
from
Edie
who
is
the
Civic
Association
president
and
Douglas
Park
as
well
uses
that
Park,
so
I
do
think
that
it
serves
a
larger
community.
B
But
I
do
understand
your
comments
and
I
appreciate
them,
and
thank
you
for
bringing
them
up.
The
one
thing
I
guess
I
would
say:
I
would
like
fellow
commissioners
to
remember
is
that
the
the
Four
Mile
Run
Valley
working
group
has
not
yet
even
opined
on
this.
So
what
I
was
hoping
we
could
do
was
really
just
have
motions
about
advertising
the
RTA
and
then
in
May.
We're
gonna
hear
this
again.
I
understand
and
action
right,
and
it's
that
point
I
was
thinking
motion.
B
V
To
be
I
should
be
clear:
I
I
was
referring
to
a
motion
that
I'm
inclined
to
make.
Should
we
see
something
similar
next
month
to
what's
before
us
I'm
content?
I
was
extremely
concerned
coming
into
this
meeting,
because
I
was
under
the
same
misunderstanding,
that
only
one
concept
was
going
to
be
going
to
the
board
that
misunderstanding
on
my
part
corrected
I'm
content
to
support
the
RTA,
but.
V
A
R
You
Commissioner
Siegel
I'm
struck
the
the
similarities
between
concept,
1
and
concept,
2
phase,
1
and
phase
2
and
and
and
I.
Think.
If
you
flip
between
the
pages,
you
will
find
the
same.
What's
disconcerting
for
me
and
I
think
a
bigger
issue
that
we
should
think
about
as
we
address
this
in
the
future,
is
why
some
of
our
community
feels
that
getting
everything
now
is
so
needed.
R
Why
is
it
not
a
question
of
which
one
is
better
and
more
important
of
which
one's
delivering
the
most
up
front
and
that's
because
we,
the
county,
have
been
an
unreliable
partner,
frequently
and
repeatedly
throughout
the
most
recent
history
with
these
civic
associations,
so
I
understand
the
sentiment
both
behind
the
sterlington
Civic
Association
and
the
Douglas
Park
Civic
Association
capture
as
much
as
you
can
at
the
MOU.
You
have
the
opportunity
to
because
you
doubt
that
you
will
get
a
second
chance
at
that
Apple,
but
with
respect
to
them,
I
think
concept,
1
and
concept.
R
F
G
Actually,
I
attended
this
Shirlington
Civic
Association
meeting
on
Monday
night
during
which
WETA
s
new
CFO
that
came
and
outlined
their
plans
for
this
property.
They
have
hired
a
consulting
firm
to
they've,
hired
a
consulting
firm
to
examine
three
options
for
them.
The
first
option
is
building
a
new
studio
between
their
existing
building
and
their
garage.
P
G
A
S
Was
wondering
there?
There
are
existing
tables
sort
of
towards
the
back
of
Jenny
Dean
Park,
where
families
can
have
picnics
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
know
there
will
be
overhangs
and
things
in
both
of
these
designs.
Small
and
large
I'm
wondering
if
any
tables
are
envisioned
in
either
of
these
design
concepts
and
if
so
so,.
S
F
S
F
A
B
R
You
I
don't
want
to
belittle
the
work
of
the
two
and
a
half
year
process.
They
brought
this
to
us,
but
I
do
not
intend
to
support
the
RTA
for
this
framework.
I
do
agree
with
the
intents
of
this
retaining
the
service
commercial
as
an
opportunity
for
the
businesses
that
are
currently
there.
The
immediate
improvements
agenda
theme
park
that
are
desperately
needed
and
overdue,
where
I
think
the
plan
falls.
R
We
are
going
to
come
into
desperate
need
for
rectangles
and
diamonds
and
they
take
large
acreages
and
the
more
valuable
the
land
is,
the
harder
it
is
to
caulk
wire.
These
sites
are
in
floodplains
and
the
existing
businesses
to
exist
and
I
have
no
desire
intention
and
if
it,
organically
stays,
I'm
perfectly
fine
with
it,
but
not
laying
out
a
vision
that
shows
the
possibility
for
a
large
continuous
park
in
this
site.
I
feel
is
a
disservice
to
the
community
and
a
failure
to
vision
in
the
future.
B
Just
wanted
to
take
another
opportunity
to
thank
the
chairman,
Charles
and
the
two
co-chairs
who've
actually
stuck
with
us.
The
whole
night
and
the
members
of
the
working
group
who
are
here
and
those
who
are
not
and
also
I,
did
want,
to
mention
permission,
ERG
Erin
for
leading
a
very,
very
important
process.
I
think
in
a
very
short
time
and
I
really
did
not
mean
to
minimize,
because
I
know
it
was
a
very,
very
big
undertaking.
B
So
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
I'm
sorry
and
just
half
who
have
really
have
been
at
every
meeting
and
I
think
really
incorporated
very
well,
I.
Think
the
issues
and
the
comments.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
you've
done
a
great
service
to
the
conversations
that
were
had
at
the
different
meetings
and
to
the
people
who
participated.
Thank
you.
A
Any
other
comments
before
we
take
a
vote.
I
would
just
say
once
again
I'm
very
excited
by
the
plan.
I
think
it's
a
very,
very
good
idea.
I
look
forward
to
all
the
ideas
that
can
help
this
area
grow
organically
within
the
framework
of
of
this
policy,
which
I
think
is
a
good
one.
So,
having
said
that,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
raise
your
hand,
got
it
all
opposed
Stephen
nope,
abstain,
Steve,
okay,
very
good,
okay,
thank
you!
So
much
we'll
take
three
or
four
minutes.
A
V
V
W
Just
sort
just
to
let
the
pine
Commission
know
I
think
some
people
are
aware
that
we
have
a
new
zoning.
I,
don't
even
know
what
his
title
is,
but
zoko
someone
working
with
Elizabeth
Kerr
Wharton.
Thank
you
guys,
owning
code
coordinator,
I,
guess
I'm,
not
sure
what
his
official
title
is,
but
that
started
very
recently.
His
name
is
Nick
Rogers.
W
A
Good
thank
you
site
plan
review
committee.
That
would
be
me.
I
am
working
with
Bob
on
the
revision
to
the
operating
guide.
I
will
we're
almost
done
with
our
work
and
once
that
is
accomplished,
you're
going
to
see
the
draft
again
for
comments,
I
had
meant
to
bring
the
outstanding
site
plans
in
there's.
There's
nothing
new,
except
we're.
Anticipating
pen,
pen,
place
I
think
there
may
still
be
some
issues
or,
though
I
think
the
preliminary
has
been
accepted
and
I
think
we're
having
Commissioner
we're
share
that
with
the
able
assistance
of
Commissioner
Hughes
who's.
T
We've
made
Monday's
meeting
April
16th
to
be
an
lrpc
meeting
for
plan
G.
Then
that
notice
has
gone
out
so
because
it
kept
going
back
and
forth.
April
25th
we're
looking
at
Vanek
Benjamin
Banneker
Park
glup
amendment
and
rezoning
for
McCoy
Park
there'll
be
some
other.
Some
relocatable
22:32
things
as
well
Yorktown
rear
center
in
elementary
may
3rd
is
staples
special
glup
study.
We
are
going
to
have
another
meeting
on
that
and
may
29th
as
pops.
A
Q
Q
S
So
the
public
facilities
review
committee
has
been
considering
the
concept
design
for
Reid
school.
The
school
board
last
week
voted
5
to
0
to
adopt
the
integrated
design
concept,
which
would
build
a
four-story
elementary
school
and
the
place
of
the
where
the
existing
school
is
today.
Yes,
knock
down
part
most
of
the
existing
school
and
build
four-story
school
there,
so
we're
moving
to
schematic
design
phase.
Our
meeting
will
be
15th
of
May
yep.
That's
our
next
meeting
and
so
can.
S
B
S
A
S
V
R
B
B
But
what
the
group
has
been
terrific
sports
about
doing
this,
asking
great
questions
asking
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
site
and
about
the
future
and
about
our
charge,
which
is
voluminous
I,
would
like
to
say
that
tomorrow
night
is
another
Career
Center
working
group
at
which
we
will
do.
You
know
a
version
of
your
Lego
exercise.
We
have
lovely
3d
that
people
will
be
moving
around
in
largely
in
an
attempt
to
figure
out.
B
You
know
where
we
want
Heights
and
massing
and
density,
and
also
where
we
think
we
can
put
fields
and
which
fields
fit
where
because
of
course,
if
you're
putting
more
students
on
this
on
this
site
and
if
you're
putting
any
students
on
the
site,
you
really
need
some
green
space.
And
so
so
that's
tomorrow
night
and
then
we
are
also
prepping
busily
for
our
county
board
school
board
work
session,
which
is
actually
next
Tuesday
night
you're
in
this
room
right,
excellent,
I'm,
sorry,
no,
it
actually
might
be
at
the
site
back
Center
I
thought.
A
It
did
okay,
okay,
anybody
else
ever
have
a
report
that
they're
burning
to
make,
if
not
I
would
just
say
under
the
Chairman's
report-
is
we're
looking
at
in
less
than
a
month
that
our
main
eating
in
which
we're
going
to
hear
this
again,
the
four
mile
run
and
I
think
all
of
the
both
phases
of
I
believe
I,
don't
know.
I
won't
know
until
I
talk
to
Bob
in
a
week
or
so
we
will
hear
the
Central
District
retail
phase,
one
phase
two
of
Crystal
City,
where
there
really
are
a
lot
of
tough
issues.
A
H
That
was
very
very
interesting
because
the
hospital
center
had
a
very
rough
meeting.
The
Transportation
Commission
was
concerned
about
the
size
of
the
garage
physically
the
size
of
it,
the
number
of
cars
that
were
going
into
it.
The
fact
that
this
Transportation
Commission
felt
that
the
hospital
center
did
not
have
a
credible
TDM
plan
in
place
or
propose
one
that
bicycles
were
not
being
properly
accommodated
on
the
site,
as
is,
nor
does
the
plan.
Is
there
a
plan
for
that?
They
were
concerned
about
the
loss
of
street
parking,
including
metered
parking
pretty
much.
T
And
we'll
just
be
seeing
it
again
at
SPRC
on
April
19th,
so
folks,
please,
please
come
out
it.
As
you
know,
it's
it's
sighted
right
there
in
the
midst
of
a
traditional
african-american,
neighborhood
so
and
we'll
see,
if
there's
any
changes
to
the
proposed
architecture
and
the
height
and
the
massing.
A
A
Hearing
you,
if
there
isn't
anything
in
addition,
just
want
to
talk
about
letters
Steven.
Will
you
do
the
letter
on
Red,
Cross
and
James
and
I
will
do
the
first
three
issues
if
you'll
send
us
the
copies,
will
collaborate
and
then
send
it
around
to
the
rest
of
you
guys?
Okay,
if
that's
all
I
will
adjourn
this.