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A
Welcome
to
the
February
2018
carryover,
Planning
Commission
meeting
tonight's
agenda
will
include
an
action
item
on
site
plan
number
90,
Central
District
retail
phase
1
the
Arlington
County
Planning
Commission
was
established
in
1956
as
a
citizen
advisory
board
authorized
by
the
Virginia
State
code.
It
promotes
the
orderly
development
of
Arlington
County
and
its
environs
by
advising
the
county
board
on
development
and
use
of
land
facilities
and
zoning.
As
always,
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
an
item
this
evening
must
fill
out
a
speaker
slip
before
the
item
is
called.
Please
turn
off
your
sorry.
A
A
B
A
C
C
As
you
see
the
site
area
of
work
here,
the
majority
of
it
is
on
the
east
side,
west
side
of
crystal
drive
to
the
bottom
of
your
screen,
where
the
new
theater
and
the
grocer
at
the
corner
of
15th
Street
and
the
proposed
new
loading
dock
on
lon
South,
Belle
Street
to
the
west
near
us
Highway
one
existing
conditions.
Many
of
you
were
on
a
walking
tour
during
the
site
plan
review
committee
meeting,
and
this
is
the
1550
Crystal
Drive
office
building.
That's
a
currently
a
tenant
at
office
building.
C
However,
it
has
a
driveway
which
reaches
one
and
a
half
stories
up
the
building
for
bus
turnaround
in
the
1970s
when
parts
of
the
Crystal
City
Street
network
were
not
completed.
Yet
this
does
have
a
public
easement
on
it,
but
it
is
not
assigned
as
a
public
street.
It
is
not
on
our
master
transportation
plan.
It
is
surplus
to
our
requirements.
So
that's
why
it's?
C
The
subject
of
item
to
be
the
applicant
is
actually
proposing
is
to
construct
the
grocer
and
additional
retail
slide
into
the
back
of
sidewalk,
underneath
this
Porte
cochere,
while
keeping
the
current
office
tenants
above
it.
This
is
an
example
of
the
existing
streetscape
and
the
existing.
This
is
a
retail
addition
that
was
constructed
in
the
early
1990s,
rather
typical,
of
the
design
of
that
time.
It
isn't
very
street
facing
the
design
is
very
heavy
and
not
oriented
towards
the
street.
C
Although
there
is
an
entrance,
as
you
see
in
this
slide,
for
instance,
the
sidewalks
do
not
come
up
to
the
shop
windows,
there's
exhaust
from
the
garage
there
and
plantings
that
prevent
pedestrians
from
passing
and
a
generally
inadequate
streetscape
along
this
side,
with
a
very
heavily
pedestrian
trafficked
side
of
Crystal
Drive
background
to
the
site.
This
was
an
existing
site
plan,
approved
in
1972
of
build-out
towards
the
end
of
the
1970s.
It
was
multi
towers,
including
one
residential
building
owned
by
another
party.
C
C
C
C
There
are
adopted
plans
and
policies
governing
this
site
from
the
most
general
to
the
most
specific,
the
general
Land
Use
Plan,
and
then
the
zoning
on
the
site,
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
project
has
been
analyzed
in
light
of
the
adopted
plans,
although
it
is
not
a
CEO
Crystal,
City,
full
redevelopment
project
and
then
the
most
specific,
the
Arlington
retail
plan
adopted
after
the
adoption
of
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan.
The
general
land-use
plan
for
almost
all
of
Crystal
City
is
a
high
office
apartment.
C
Hotel
I
would
and
is
located
in
the
Crystal
City
redevelopment
district,
which
qualifies
a
site
to
be
rezone
to
CL
Crystal
City
should
a
developer
require.
The
triangles
are,
unfortunately
come
out
very
small
in
this
map,
but
are
various
open
spaces,
including
under
review,
proposed
major
open
space
on
the
north
side
of
18th
Street
south?
This
is
the
water
park
across
the
street
from
the
site,
a
site
that
will
be
you
know
of
interest
to
this
development.
C
The
zoning
is
currently
Co
mixed-use,
most
of
Crystal
City
was
developed
using
that
zoning
category
throughout
the
60s
and
70s.
That's
a
zoning
category
dating
back
to
the
1960s,
and
it
allows
density
of
up
to
3.8
floor
area
ratio
for
commercial
development
and
incentivizes
a
residential
development
with
a
floor
area
ratio
of
up
to
4.8
FA
are
the
Crystal.
City
sector
plan
designates
this
area
as
the
business
core
of
Crystal
City
that
business
core
goes
stretches
all
the
way
to
the
23rd
Street
and
to
the
other
side
of
Crystal
Drive.
C
This
other
map
here
is
a
density
map.
Although
densities
are
largely
the
same,
as
I
said,
with
a
high
office
apartment,
Hotel,
3.8,
F,
AR
and
4.8
f
AR,
this
area
is
considered
medium
of
appropriate
for
medium
density.
The
highest
density
would
actually
be
immediately
around
the
metro
station
on
the
south
side
of
this
block.
We're
mostly
talking
about
development
on
the
north
side
of
this,
the
north
half
of
this
block.
C
This
is
the
site,
as
contemplated
in
the
sector
plan,
with
a
full
block
redevelopment
with
the
park
along
18th
Street.
The
sector
plan
did
envision
the
whole
entire
blocks
being
redeveloped
at
once,
and
this
is
merely
just
an
illustrative
plan
to
show
Gen
what
the
sector
plan
anticipated,
which
is
an
open
space
here,
a
realigned
clerk,
Bell
Street,
which
is
largely
in
the
same
path
as
the
existing
South
self
Clark,
South,
Bell,
Street
and
then
additional
new
office
buildings
around
this
site
plan,
the
black
designation.
C
This
is
divided
up
into
two
blocks:
the
block
G
1
and
block
G
2.
This
is
in
the
northeast
area
of
block
G
2.
The
figures
there
are
the
building
face,
the
building
face,
ideal
figures,
a
hundred
feet
across
crystal
drive
from
building
faced
to
future
building,
face
170
feet
across
15
Street
South
to
allow
for
the
Korea
County's
creation
of
a
new
park
in
the
future
in
the
middle
of
15th
Street
base
density
recommended
in
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
is
all
the
same.
C
That
purple
is
3.8
FA
our
resident,
a
commercial
for
paint,
8
FA,
our
residential
and
the
dashed
lines
are
the
recommended
build
two
lines
again:
the
recommended
Heights
actually
up
to
200
feet
in
this
particular
area.
The
south
half
of
the
block
is
up
to
300
feet,
but
the
sector
plan
recommends
heights
of
up
to
200.
C
In
this
area,
retail
frontage
there
is
required
Street,
fronting
retail,
along
crystal
derive
and
along
in
the
future
phase
the
proposed
park
on
18th
Street,
but
in
this
area
that
we're
concentrating
on
here,
the
applicant
is
providing
the
required
retail
frontage.
The
arrows
are
the
required
underground
connections.
The
applicant
is
preserving
the
existing
underground
connections
there
in
fact,
two
connections
east-west
here
another
one
that
goes
off
to
the
hotels
in
this
area
and
a
north-south
interior
connection
and
the
underground
con
courses
in
the
Crystal
City
underground.
C
The
developer
is
preserving
those
services
and
loading
are
recommended
for
the
new
realigned
Clark
Bell
Street.
The
developer
is
proposing
a
new
loading
space
approximately
here
where
it
is
recommended
in
the
sector
plan
and
the
is
to
serve
existing
buildings,
but
could
also
serve
future
development
as
well.
The
grocery
store
has
particular
needs
and
the
grocery
store
did
need
have
two
large
loading
docks.
This
is
a
subject
of
discussion
during
SPRC
review
along
15th
Street
south.
C
They
do,
however,
wrap
the
15th
Street
with
the
retail
frontage
and
agree
to
the
required
transparency
and
staff
other
supports
the
location
of
the
loading
dock
here,
just
because
it
is
necessary
for
the
operation
of
the
grocery
store,
the
Arlington
retail
plan.
The
most
specific
guidance
on
the
site
is
a
gold
site,
so
not
as
1/4
that's
open
to
retail
or
retail
equivalent.
C
The
ad
with
also
interior
and
exterior
design
standards
which
the
applicant
does
meet.
The
interior
design
standards
are
generally
floor
to
ceiling
heights,
which
the
developer
easily
meets,
and
the
exterior
standards
are
the
standard
transparency
requirements
which
the
developer
agrees
to
the
theater.
The
applicant
will
show
you
more
architectural
elevations,
but
the
theater
is
placed
on
an
existing
private,
plaza,
not
public,
for
that
serves
the
Crystal
City,
the
Crystal
square
development.
This
is
an
existing
garage
entrance
and
exits.
Both
are
entrances
and
exits.
One
goes
to
G
2.
Another
goes
to
G.
C
3
in
between
the
developer
actually
proposes
miscellaneous
retail
to
further
sort
of
hide.
These
places
the
developer
as
they'll
no
doubt
tell
you
in
their
presentation,
there's
a
small
lobby
at
the
street
level.
The
main
ticketing
lobby
for
the
movie
theater
will
be
at
the
second
level,
therefore
freeing
up
space
at
the
ground
level
for
retail
that
can
meet
the
transparency
requirements
and
avoiding
a
dead
spot
of
a
large
lobby.
C
The
applicant
is
requesting
modifications
from
the
zoning
ordinance.
They
are
for
parking
parking
space
size
drive
aisle
with
the
parking
ratio
and
the
compact
parking
ratio
like
previous
Crystal
City
development,
including
the
century
Center
development.
Last
year,
the
developer
is
proposing
to
reuse
an
existing
1970s
garage
which
has
sufficient
parking
to
serve
the
current
needs
and
future
needs
staff
supports
all
of
these
modifications
to
provide
parking.
C
The
applicant
is
also
requesting
excluding
eighty
six
hundred
approximately
nine
thousand
square
feet
of
new
exclusions
from
gross
floor
area
from
the
underground
which
current
county
policy
does
not
support
the
type
of
new
exclusions
they
are
requesting.
The
underground
is
private,
no
public
easements,
but
they're,
not
providing
any
new
connectivity
that
we
don't
already
have.
However,
previously
approved
exclusions
by
the
County
Board
may
remain.
There
is
about
58
thousand
square
feet
of
existing
exclusions
from
gross
floor
area
that
had
been
approved
in
the
1970s,
including
some
underground
storage.
C
The
applicant
may
rearrange
areas
within
between
if
they
need
to
relocate
areas
of
arcades
and
the
underground.
Within
that
58,000
square
foot
already
previously
approved
ratio.
There
was
a
public
process
of
three
cycle.
Energy
committee
meetings
in
the
autumn
of
1920
17
main
discussion
topics
were
a
pedestrian
circulation
inside
and
through
the
site
and
on
the
surface,
vehicular
queuing
and
weather.
C
Through
the
site
plan
review
committee
process,
the
developer
was
able
to
revise
the
loading
docks
in
order
to
not
impact
the
proposed
15th
Street
Park
with
the
longest
trailers
at
least
one
delivery
a
day
from
a
large
tractor
trailer.
Originally,
the
turning
radiuses
showed
that
intruding
into
the
slightly
into
the
public
park
that
is
in
the
future
proposed
for
15th
Street
that
has
been
resolved
by
slightly
widening
the
apron
to
a
level
that's
still
acceptable
by
staff,
as
well
as
they
deepened
the
loading
bay
a
little
more
to
allow
for
more
efficient
turning.
C
There
was
also
the
impact
of
the
theater
on
this
north-south
surface
walkway,
which
was
private
but
used
by
people
in
the
know,
to
access
through
the
site
without
going
through
the
Crystal
City
underground,
and
also
the
impact
of
the
building
on
the
adjacent
apartment
building
and
then,
finally,
as
I'll
show
you
an
example
how
dowhat
staff
is
calling
the
theater
cube,
especially
the
rear.
A
movie
theater
for
obvious
reasons
does
not
generally,
is
not
generally
conducive
to
having
open
windows
and
and
and
lights
or,
however,
that
does
lead.
C
These
are
the
auditoriums
to
create
generally
not
facing
public
rights-of-way
areas
of
blank
space
which
the
applicant
is
proposed,
with
gray
a
great
treatment
which
some
have
likened
to
the
the
East
Building
of
the
the
National
Gallery
of
Art
was
mentioned
many
times
in
the
site
plan
review
committee
process.
But
could
there
be
some
further
texture
definition
to
provide
interests?
The
developer
is
proposing
as
they're
showing
significant
planting,
which,
which
is
generally,
which
is
viable
according
to
staff.
C
A
E
D
A
D
You
thanks
so
much
all
right,
so
there's
a
we
have
a
couple
of
slides
to
set
the
stage.
I.
Think
Peter's
presentation
did
a
fantastic
job
of
covering
a
lot
of
that
detail.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
I'll
try
and
skip
through
some
of
that.
If
there's
anything
that
I've
missed,
please
let
me
know
and
happy
to
go
back.
I
like
to
start
with
an
update
on
the
project
timeline.
D
As
many
of
you
know,
Jerry
G
Smith
is
relatively
new
to
the
neighborhood
of
Crystal,
City
and
Pentagon
city
and
after
the
merger
between
vornado
Charles,
E,
Smith
and
jbg,
we
had
a
lot
of
catching
up
to
do,
and
so
we
spent
basically
six
months
of
17
meeting
with
the
different
community
members
different
civic
associations,
individuals
to
get
an
understanding
of
what
do
they
love
about
the
neighborhood?
What
are
some
things
that
they're
looking
to
change?
D
Where
are
the
sensitivities,
and
we
collected
that
feedback
with
the
intent
of
being
able
to
put
that
into
play
before
we?
You
know
we're
to
go
ahead
and
put
pen
to
paper
on
plan
and
I.
Think
if
we
were
to
make
like
a
word
cloud
of
some
of
the
things
we
started
to
hear
we
heard
over
and
over
again
no
more
beige,
we
really
want
a
grocery
store.
No
one
do
we
want,
you
know
a
theater.
We
want
something:
that's
special
and
unique
to
Crystal
City.
D
That
really
culminates
with
what
we
call
our
design
review
committee,
which
is
a
group
that
is
separate
from
our
investment
committee.
That's
really
focused
on
the
returns
of
a
project
and
is
much
more
focused
on
the
qualitative
aspects
of
a
project
and
before
we
can
go
and
show
anything
to
the
public.
That's
a
group
that
has
to
give
us
our
sign-off
sort
of
a
internal
planning.
D
The
first
is
diversity
of
offering
that's
making
sure
that
you're,
balancing
different
uses
between
residential
office
hotel
and
then
even
different
uses
within
those
products,
different
kinds
of
retail,
for
different
people,
different
kinds
of
living
situations,
etc.
Likewise,
you
need
to
have
really
well
placed
anchors,
the
kinds
of
larger
uses
that
bring
people
to
a
neighborhood
and
excite
the
folks
who
already
live
in
it.
Things
like
theaters,
like
grocer's,
public
space.
This
is
this
is
a
big
one.
D
How
people
interact
with
our
projects
at
the
ground
plane
is
incredibly
important
and
we
call
it
our
2020
vision.
It's
the
first
20
feet
of
the
sidewalk
and
the
first
20
feet
up
the
building,
we're
all
architecture
nerds,
and
we
like
to
focus
on
everything
that's
happening
on
the
building,
but
the
average
person
who
is
walking
through
the
neighborhood.
D
What
they're
experiencing
is
the
plantings,
the
sidewalk,
the
textures
and
that
first
20
feet
of
architecture
and
materiality
that
we
spend
a
long
long
time
and
a
lot
of
effort
trying
to
craft
when
it
comes
to
public
space.
We
think
again,
diversity
is
key
there
and
that
there
are
public
spaces
for
large
gatherings,
public
spaces
for
smaller,
more
intimate
gatherings,
more
durable,
hard,
durable
public
spaces
with
hard
scape
and
much
more
lush
public
spaces
for
a
little
bit
more
intimacy
in
respite
transportation
and
walkability
is
key.
D
Every
great
neighborhood
should
give
to
its
residents
safe
access
to
multiple
modes
of
transportation
and,
finally,
the
last
pillar
is
sense
of
community,
and
we
find
that
if
we
do
the
first
four
things
right,
we
can
help
improve
the
ladder.
Unfortunately,
Crystal
City
is
already
a
neighborhood
that
has
a
fantastic
sense
of
community
I
think
we
can
probably
skip
through
some
of
these
existing
condition,
slides
on
page
six,
just
to
point
out
1515
Jefferson
Davis
highway.
That
is
the
only
building
on
the
block
that
is
owned
by
a
separate
landowner.
D
The
four
buildings
that
you
see
running
counterclockwise
are
all
office
buildings
1770
now
1750
is
a
currently
vacant
office.
Building
the
remaining
buildings
are
all
occupied,
a
couple
of
other
landmarks
to
point
out,
both
the
existing
VRE
station,
as
well
as
the
North
Landing
of
the
proposed
VRA
station
and
then
the
trailhead
for
the
Mount
Vernon
trail
as
well
as
the
water
park.
D
D
The
attempt
the
the
real
goal
of
this
project
was
to
find
a
way
to
interject
some
of
these
really
important
neighborhood
characteristics
like
theater
anchors
like
a
grocer
while
trying
to
be
cognizant
of
one
building
that
wasn't
ours
and
three
buildings
that
are
actually
fairly
occupied
and
performing
very
well.
So
we
found
an
opportunity
with
the
grocer,
as
well
as
about
10,000
square
feet
of
net
new,
in
line
retail,
to
actually
slide
that
space
into
and
underneath
the
existing
1550
building.
D
As
Peter
pointed
out,
and
then
with
the
theater,
we
saw
an
opportunity
to
land
that
theater
between
two
existing
buildings
on
that
plaza
level,
so
you
can
see
that
Cube
sort
of
dropping
down
between
1550
and
the
1750
building
next
few
slides,
showing
some
of
those
existing
conditions.
I
think
on
this
first
page,
we're
mostly
focused
on
the
plaza
level,
which
is
about
15
feet
above
Crystal
City
great.
As
you
can
see
here,
architecture
is
predominantly
gray,
as
Peter
said
very
heavy.
D
D
Throughs
pass
throughs
and
garage
entrances
that
we'll
be
building
into
with
the
future
of
grocer,
as
well
as
some
of
that
retail
space
that
sits
on
Crystal
Drive,
as
designed
today,
most
of
the
retail
space,
with
the
exception
of
the
FedEx
store.
This
is
actually
you're
looking
at
the
retail
space
back-of-house
and
because
most
of
every
tail
is
fronting
on
the
existing
underground.
D
What
we're
proposing
here
is
to
instead
front
that
retail
on
crystal
drive
and
push
that
back
up
house
further
down
into
the
block
in
an
attempt
to
add
a
lot
more
vibrancy
to
that
pedestrian
experience
on
crystal
and
turn
what
are
you
know:
empty,
opaque
shadow
boxes
in
front
of
windows
into
active,
operable
storefronts.
We
were
able
to
see
you
know
the
sights
and
sounds
and
smells
of
restaurants
and
active
stores,
and
then
image
3.
You
can
also
see
in
a
picture
of
the
existing
garage
entrance
that
will
be
bridged
over
by
the
future
theater.
D
Next
up
on
the
illustrious
to
point
out
running
clockwise,
starting
on
15th
Street,
there
are
the
the
bus
pastures
underneath
1550,
there's
the
speed
ramp
that
takes
drivers
from
15th
Street
down
into
the
below
grade
garage
that
serves
the
entirety
of
the
block.
That
is
one
of
those
garage
entrances.
D
This
is
the
existing
outline
of
the
underground,
and
you
can
see
here
there's
a
strong
north-south
connection
that
connects
this
block
to
the
blocks
north
and
south
of
it
and
maintains
a
strong
connection
running
basically
parallel
to
Crystal
Drive.
For
for
the
majority
of
Crystal
City,
as
well
as
there's
a
strong,
east-west
connection
that
actually
terminates
a
crystal
drive
and
then
goes
underneath
and
route
one
further
towards
Pentagon
City.
D
In
the
next
image.
You
can
see
the
proposed
plan
overlaid
over
those
existing
conditions
on
15th
Street.
You
can
see
there's
a
small
cutout
shown
for
where
the
proposed
loading
entrance
would
be.
As
you
start
to
come
around
the
corner
onto
crystal.
You
can
see
the
outline
of
the
grocer's
roof
line
as
well
as
some
of
that
proposed
inline
retail.
D
You
can
see
how
the
theater
is
built
over
those
two
existing
garage
entries
and
then
south
of
the
theater
we've
overlaid
the
Phase
two
for
point
one
now.
The
next
slide
shows
the
resulting
underground
layout
again
that
north-south
connection
remains
as
well
as
that
strong,
east-west
connection
through
the
1770
building.
Again,
you
can
see
the
two
elevators
running
through
the
building
for
the
public
parking
usage
and
then
in
The
Grocer
space.
D
As
a
part
of
our
internal
study,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
visioning
for
what
not
just
a
project
but
a
neighborhood
and
a
block
should
feel
like
and-
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time,
picking
the
right
imagery
and
the
right
words
to
try
and
accomplish
what
it
is
that
we're
aiming
for.
So
in
a
place
like
Shaw
in
downtown.
Some
of
those
words
might
be
cutting-edge
aspirational.
D
The
first
up
is,
is
the
grosser
I
think
this
to
us
is
really
the
definition
of
sort
of
that
fresh
word.
We
have
a
color
palette,
that's
clean,
but
also
warm.
You
have
materials
that
are
being
used
that
are
natural
but
finished
and
not
to
expose
not
to
industrial.
On
the
next
page,
you
can
see
sort
of
the
before
followed
by
the
after.
D
A
couple
of
things
to
point
out
here
is
use
of
glass
along
both
crystal
and
fifteenth,
to
add
that
visual
interest
to
folks
who
are
walking
by
there's
actually
an
awning
that
runs
the
length
of
the
building
out
over
the
sidewalk
and
that's
something
that
we've
employed
to
try
and
bring
that
building.
That's
that's
the
only
Jewish
stories
tall
still
down
to
that
pedestrian
level
and
and
give
pedestrians
a
little
bit
of
a
ceiling
so
that
they
feel
that
much
more
comfortable
in
this
environment
and
then
finally,
you'll
see
in
this
image.
D
Trees
at
the
very
north
end
are
shown
in
pots,
probably
a
little
bit
more
mature
than
you'd
be
able
to
achieve
in
those
pots.
But
that's
because
there's
an
existing
garage
structure
beneath
this
area.
Otherwise
these
trees
would
be
in
planters,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
planting
beds
like
the
rest
of
the
trees
in
the
streetscape
on
the
next
image.
You
can
see
us
starting
to
move
south
down.
Crystal
Drive
you'll
see
a
lot
of
green
and
this
and
other
images
not
not
by
a
mistake.
D
The
next
slide
is
some
more
detail
that
we
can
always
go
back
to
about
the
grocer,
but
effectively.
This
is
showing
how
the
grocer
sits
about
40
feet
out
proud
of
the
existing
building.
So
there,
the
existing
building
effectively
ends
up
being
40
feet,
setback
from
from
the
the
sidewalk
again
trying
to
bring
everything
back
down
to
that
pedestrian
scale.
D
The
next
shot
is
a
couple
of
images
for
the
future
in
line.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
color
palette,
trying
to
add
a
little
bit
of
variety.
We
don't
want
every
building
to
look
like
it
was
built
at
the
same
time,
even
though
it
will
be
so.
You
see
a
little
bit
of
a
darker
color
palette,
a
little
bit
more
texture,
and
here
you
can
see
the
before
of
sort
of
that
rear,
facing
retail,
not
very
transparent,
to
a
shot
of
the
future.
D
This
is
an
area
where
we'd
expect
to
use
a
lot
of
operable
windows
and
storefront
to
let
some
of
those
sights
sounds
and
smells
spill
out
onto
the
street.
Maintain
those
important
public,
clear
paths,
but
also
find
ways
to
act,
continue
to
activate
the
street
with
outdoor,
cafe,
Dining's
lighting
and
then
add
a
little
bit
more
energy
through
the
use
of
rooftop
activation
and
finally,
is
the
theater.
This
was
was
sort
of
a
no-brainer
for
us
in
terms
of
going
with
a
little
bit
heavier
than
our
deco
influence.
D
We
always
saw
that
that
time
period
as
really
being
the
Golden
Age
of
film
and
and
something
that
we
wanted
to
celebrate
with
a
specialty
use
like
a
theater
and
you'll
see.
You
know,
we
relied
really
heavy
on
bold,
bright,
marquees,
bright
metals
to
try
and
replicate
some
of
that
glitz
and
glam
and
allure
of
the
theater
experience
the
Hollywood
experience.
D
So
again
we
have
our
before
shot
and
then
the
after
and
and
the
real
thesis
the
design
thesis
behind
this
building
was.
It
was
so
important
for
us
to
add
that
energy
to
Crystal,
Drive,
so
you'll
see
lighting
schemes,
materials
chosen,
textures
chosen
to
add
that
visual
interest
at
night.
You
have
this
glass
block,
little
mini
Tower
that
acts
as
a
lantern
and
a
beacon
on
the
street,
and
we
really
want
it
to
be
this
to
be
that
unifying
element
on
the
streetscape,
because
this
is
a
theater.
It's
about
a
nine
hundred-seat
theater.
D
As
Peter
mentioned,
we
have
the
byproduct
of
sort
of
the
box
and
the
theater
not
being
very
conducive
to
having
windows.
Our
intent
was
to
make
sure
that
that
box
disappears
as
much
as
possible
the
front
facade
on
Crystal
Drive
rises
to
about
60
feet
and
then
sets
back
a
little
over
30
feet
before
rising
the
final
30
feet.
D
So
from
crystal
drive
on
that
side
of
the
sidewalk
you
as
a
pedestrian,
don't
experience
that
box
and
and
where
it
starts
to
peak
out
from
the
public,
right-of-way
really
wanted
to
try
and
find
a
way
to
quiet
that
down
and
let
the
design
on
crystal
drive
be.
The
thing
that
shines
next
page
is
a
little
bit
of
information.
Everybody
who
wants
to
look
at
it
about
the
Alamo
Theatre,
in
short,
a
group
we're
really
excited
about.
We
wanted
to
bring
something
to
Crystal
City.
D
That
was
unique,
that
felt
like
it
was
gonna
have
a
DNA
of
its
own
in
Crystal,
City
Alamo
was
founded
by
a
husband
and
wife
couple
who
describe
themselves
as
film
nerds,
and
they
really
focus
on
running
everything
from
first-run
summer.
Blockbusters
all
the
way
to
art
house
movies
and
emphasized
each
of
their
individual
franchisees
that
they
need
to
be
focusing
on
the
neighborhood
running
a
lot
of
movie
festivals
for
different
events
and
holidays,
and
it's
something
we're
really
excited
about
in
addition
to
running
a
really
fantastic
FMV
program.
D
Next
up
are
a
couple
of
slides,
showing
the
different
angles
of
the
theater
I.
Think
the
the
most
challenging
aspect
of
the
theater
is,
as
Peter
mentioned,
from
the
rear.
That
is
where
you
don't
get
to
experience
that
Crystal
Drive
facade.
This
is
something
that
we've
probably
spent
more
time
on
internally
than
the
front,
because
we
do
own
the
three
buildings
that
surround
it
and
our
most
close
to
it.
We
actually
have
a
lot
of
tenants
in
both
241
and
1550
that
are
expected
to
roll
shortly
after
the
delivery
of
the
seeder.
D
One
of
the
things
that
we
like
about
sort
of
this
traditional
stucco
is
it's
at
home
in
the
period
and
is
very
off
period
for
this
particular
architecture
and
it's
something
that
can
be
executed
in
a
very
clean,
seamless
way
to
try
and
find
ways
to
reduce.
You
know
the
perceived
scale
and
mass
of
a
building.
It
really
is
I'm
running
out
of
time
here.
D
The
next
slide
shows
this
north-south
connection
running
halfway
through
the
block.
I
think
this
is
probably
our
the
the
biggest
miss
that
we
had
out
of
the
gates.
When
we
presented
the
original
plan,
we
didn't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this
particular
pathway.
The
community
came
out
very
strong
and
said
this
is
something
that
we
value
today.
This
is
a
path
a
lot
of
us
take
to
get
to
the
metro.
D
So
we
had
another
look
at
this
during
the
SPRC
process,
focused
not
just
on
new
plantings
and
making
sure
that
those
new
plantings
worked
within
the
existing
structure,
but
also
trying
to
preserve
some
of
those
existing
mature
trees
that
are
there
today
and-
and
the
next
slide
will
show
you
some
of
some
of
those
existing
mature
trees
that
are
very
lush
and
very
beautiful.
Next
up
is
a
rendering
here
we
have
a
slide
showing
existing
verses,
proposed
public,
private
and
green
and
impervious
space.
D
A
A
D
This
the
parking
side
happy
to
go
back
to
that
and
questions
on
questions
for
you
sure,
on
street
sections,
15
Street
the
sector
plan
calls
for
a
on
our
side
of
the
street,
a
parking
lane
and
two
travel
lanes.
We
were
actually
able
to
work
with
staff
to
right-size
those
travel
lanes
a
little
bit
and
and
find
enough
space
to
add
a
dedicated
bike
lane,
which
we
thought
was
was
a
great
add
to
that
street.
D
D
The
next
slide
shows
the
requested
exclusions,
where
we
have
realigned
the
underground
corridor.
This
is
something
that
the
community
felt
strongly
was
an
important
piece
of
of
transportation
infrastructure
and
basically
an
indoor
sidewalk,
and
then
you
can
see
where
we're
proposing
building
storage
I
think
the
last
point
that
I'd
like
to
make
on
the
exclusion.
D
D
If
we
set
a
precedent
that
when
underground
corridor
is
touched
and
realigned,
that
developers
have
to
then
go
and
buy
density
to
provide
that
public
benefit,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
preserve
that
underground
corridor
going
forward
and
you're
gonna
find
in
developers
that
are
incentivized
that
when
they
touch
that
underground
corridor,
they
leave
it
demolished
and
don't
replicate
and
replace
that
transportation
network
thanks.
So
much
thank.
A
F
Judy
freshman
for
Crystal
City,
Civic
Association,
our
Civic
Association
participated
in
the
SPRC
meetings
on
the
proposed
amendment,
finds
the
amendment
elements
interesting
and
acceptable.
Overall,
it
generally
conforms
to
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
sector
plan
for
an
interim
development,
given
that
market
forces
preclude
redevelopment
of
the
entire
bike
as
block
as
envisioned
in
the
sector
plan.
We
note
that
the
block
plan
now
under
review
for
the
southern
portion
of
block
G
also
proposes
to
reuse
existing
structures
so
reaching
the
sector
plans.
F
Larger
vision
is
far
in
the
future
to
issues
of
the
concern
our
association
may
be
addressed
in
this
hearing
and
have
been
mentioned.
The
first
deals
with
traffic
and
circulation.
Crystal
Drive
is
being
asked
to
do
a
bit
too
much
under
the
sector
plan.
The
options
for
north-south
traffic
in
Crystal
City
are
pretty
much
limited.
F
Crystal
drive
for
the
foreseeable
future
crystal
drives
the
primary
primary
arterial
for
vehicular
traffic,
including
buses
and
cargo
bikers
and
pedestrians,
the
existing
retail,
the
proximity,
the
metro
station
and
the
location
of
entrances
to
both
Mount
Vernon
trail
in
the
long
bridge
park
contribute
to
the
congestion.
For
this
reason,
we
are
very
anxious
to
see
that
the
northbound
bike
lane
be
retained.
Its
appeared
and
disappeared
with
changes
to
the
trolley
and
transit
wait
plans.
F
As
things
stand
now,
we
cannot
afford
removal
of
the
spike
lane,
as
it
would
have
a
detrimental
effect
for
both
the
bikers
and
the
pedestrians
who
have
already
have
to
put
up
with
the
unusual
volume
of
commuter
biker
traffic
on
the
sidewalk.
We
understand
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
the
modified
Street
section
that
includes
the
northbound
bike
lane
and
urge
you
to
express
your
support
for
this
important
change
to
the
application.
We're
also
concerned
about
the
probable
impact
of
double
parking,
drop-offs
and
other
obstacles
related
to
the
grocery
store
in
the
theater.
F
This
already
happens
with
regularity
all
along
Crystal
Drive
to
the
south
and
can
be
expected
to
also
occur
at
this
site.
Absent
service,
roads
or
alleys.
Access
to
retail
stores
for
service
will
continue
to
be
challenging
on
our
Main
Street
of
equal
concern
is
the
facade
treatment
of
the
rear
of
the
proposed
cinema
building.
As
you
know,
the
units
of
many
of
the
residents
of
Crystal
square
face
East
and
will
look
directly
at
the
back
of
the
cinema.
F
There's
also
a
pool
recreation
area
for
Crystal
Square
and
the
north
south
interior
pedestrian
way
behind
1550
and
the
proposed
cinema,
which
means
many
residents
and
pedestrians,
will
view
this
facade
daily.
The
staff
report
highlights
the
significant
discussion
in
SPRC
on
this
issue
and
points
out
that
the
windowless
cube
will
be
two
storeys
and
quote
eighty
feet
above
media
greater
the
walkway
and
quote
that's
equivalent
to
an
eight
story.
Building
and
we've
seen
photographs
that
show
just
how
massive
it
appears
no
amount
of
landscaping,
a
visual
buffer
for
such
a
windowless
mass.
F
The
existing
buildings
on
this
block
and
throughout
Crystal
City
stand
alone
and
are
visual
from
all
four
sides.
And
often
any
usable
open
space
is
behind
the
buildings.
So
all
facades
matter
and
should
be
properly
treated,
I've
been
in
many
site
plan
meetings
and
often
great
emphasis
is
made
on
the
need
for
transparency
of
retail,
for
pedestrians,
even
to
include
faux
windows
where
the
internal
uses
need
to
remain
hidden.
This
pedestrian
way
should
be
treated.
Similarly,
there
are
many
building
material
options
and
architectural
treatments
than
can
be
used
to
lessen
the
impact
as
well.
F
Surely
we
can
come
up
with
some
facade
treatment.
That
lessens
the
impact
of
the
cinema.
Building
mass,
especially
since
will
soon
be
discussing
redevelopment
to
the
south,
from
which
this
facade
will
also
be
visible.
The
applicants
should
be
required
by
condition
to
conduct
deliberative
sessions
with
Civic,
Association
members
and
other
interested
parties
to
address
this
issue
immediately,
so
it's
reconciled
before
construction
begins.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
does
that
conclude
our
speakers
on
this
item
very
good.
So
now
we
turn
to
Commission's
and
I
just
want
to
explain
that
commissioner
Weir
was
not
able
to
attend
tonight.
He
what
has
been
and
will
be
for
another
month
or
he's
now
for
another
month,
our
liaison,
who
represented
a
liaison
to
the
Transportation
Commission.
We've
spoken
with
him.
We've
spoken
to
Chris
slat,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
Commission
and
Commissioner
LAN.
Tell
me
he'll
be
picking
up
that
responsibility
going
forward,
we'll
give
our
Transportation
Commission
report.
Thank
you.
G
Difference
was
on
granting
the
the
additional
exclusions
requested
by
the
applicant
eret
areas
that
were
discussed,
that
some
of
the
commissioners
expressed
concern
of
the
state
of
the
bicycle
facilities
on
Crystal
Drive
and
asked
that
staff
and
the
applicant
continue
to
work
together
to
find
two
feet
of
wit,
necessary
to
protect
the
bike
lane
on
the
applicant
side
of
the
street.
That's
the
west
side.
The
concern
was
also
raised
in
connection
to
feedback
that
vehicles
would
park
illegally
in
the
bike
lane
for
loading
and
drop-off
delivery.
G
That
sort
of
thing
they
also
suggested
that
there'll
be
lighting
in
the
middle
of
the
streets
rather
than
just
on
the
sides.
In
order
in
response
to
concerns
that
the
street
was
under
lit.
Most
of
this
discussion,
however,
involved
the
exclusion
requests
there
was
concern
among
the
commissioner
is
that
the
ninety
four
hundred
square
feet
did
not
correspond
to
an
actual
increase
in
ninety
four
hundred
square
feet
of
underground
space,
either
real
or
perceived.
G
The
staff
and
the
applicant
seemed
to
suggest
that
the
exclusion
correspond
it
to
an
increase
in
absolute
terms
of
nine
to
four
hundred
square
feet.
Even
if
people
in
the
underground
get
that
they
had
to
go
out
of
the
way
relative
to
their
the
current
a
way
it's
arranged,
they
also
struggle
to
understand
whether
the
applicant
would
be
seeking
or
would
need
to
seek
the
same
exclusions
had
they
left
the
underground
on
touched
further.
G
Nonetheless,
there
were
concerns
that,
if
the
exclusions
are
not
granted
the
underground
for
the
underground
hallways,
they
will
slowly
go
away
as
part
of
redevelopment,
especially
if
what
we're
seeing
here,
which
is
an
adaptive
reuse
rather
than
whole
scale
redevelopment,
becomes
what
is
normal
for
the
rest
of
the
of
Crystal
City.
They
definitely
do
see
this
being
a
precedent-setting
project
and
slowly
losing
the
Crystal
City
underground.
Connectivities
would
not
be
in
furtherance
of
the
sector
plan
and
borrowing
whole
scale
redevelopment.
G
We're
gonna,
have
real
difficulty
breaking
up
the
Crystal
City
super
blocks,
which
makes
those
underground
connections
all
the
more
important
for
overall
circulation.
The
transit
transportation
committee
members
seem
to
think
that
the
developer
presented
a
compelling
case
and
that
not
excluding
the
underground
corridors
will
strongly
disincentivize
them
for
maintaining
those
connections
as
part
of
their
proposals.
G
A
H
H
You
provide
a
lot
of
invaluable
information
to
help
us
guide
our
discussion
and
answer
questions
throughout
Peter
Joanne
and
the
urban
design
team,
and
thank
you
also
to
the
community
for
diligently
showing
up
at
these
meetings,
some
of
which
ran
late
and
sharing
your
your
knowledge
of
the
area
which,
with
the
new
Planning
Commission
and
a
new
development
team,
really
was
very
critical
and,
of
course
thank
you
to
the
applicant
for
these
enthusiastic,
informative
and
very
responsive
meetings
that
we've
had
so
far.
So
I'll
go
through
my
report.
H
Very
briefly,
just
to
help
focus
our
discussion
a
bit
more
jbg
smith.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
major
site
plan
amendment
to
Crystal
Square
in
order
to
construct
84,000
square
feet
of
new
retail,
fronting
on
Crystal,
Drive
and
15th
Street
south,
and
to
make
other
site
improvements.
Construction
of
a
grocery
store
on
the
ground
level
of
15th
Street
and
Crystal
Drive
construction
of
an
Almo
theater
on
Crystal
Drive
generally
across
from
water
park.
H
Creation
of
a
new
loading
dock
on
Bell,
Street
to
service
the
existing
office
building
and
the
Crystal
City
underground
and
sidewalk
and
streetscape
improvements
to
Crystal
Drive
and
15th
Street.
This
is
the
first
of
several
planning
efforts
for
this
block
and
lrpc
in
a
second
SPRC
process
have
recently
begun
to
address
changes
that
are
being
proposed
to
additional
areas
of
the
block,
including
where
the
second
proposal
differs
from
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan.
H
Participation
did
include
membership
from
the
local
and
nearby
civic
associations,
and
issues
raised
during
the
SPRC
process
again
include
parking
modifications
from
the
zoning
ordinance
for
parking
ratio,
parking
space
with
percentage
of
compact
spaces
and
drive
eye
width
in
order
to
use
the
existing
three-story
parking
structure,
which
was
developed
in
the
70s
in
accordance
with
1970s
design
standards.
Staff
is
fine.
With
this
landscaping,
there
were
some
landscaping
issues
that
were
raised.
H
Not
just
the
ground
cover
plantings
that
we
see
on
some
of
our
public
buildings,
but
maybe
vines
that
spill
over
our
shrubs
that
are
visible
from
the
pedestrians
on
the
walkways.
In
addition,
I
raised
a
separate
issue
going
through
the
application
and
mr.
Duffy.
Perhaps
you
can
help
us
with
this
as
it
goes
forward
with
other
site
plans.
H
Some
of
the
plants
that
are
proposed
are
on
the
county's
invasive
species
list
which
I
noted
in
this
case,
but
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
going
forward
there's
a
way
to
gently
get
in
touch
with
everyone
and
make
sure
that
we
stay
up
to
speed
up
to
speed
on
that.
In
this
case,
it
was
Miscanthus
and
I
believe
the
county
sauce
done
this
in
the
past
planted
something
like
that
that
when
it
goes
to
seed
propagates
very
quickly
and
becomes
a
much
bigger
problem
over
time,
so
those
were
the
landscaping
issues.
H
The
theater
design
in
architecture
was
another
area
where
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
that
the
design
appears
from
some
angles
to
be
a
windowless
cube
and
design
is
something
that
can
be
a
little
amorphous
and
everybody
has
a
different
interpretation
of
that.
But
this
was
a
fairly
consistent
concern.
There
were
discussions
about
possibly
modifying
the
design
texture
as
well,
very
strong,
consistent
demand
to
retain
the
bike
lanes
and
pedestrian
access
to
the
site
throughout
construction
and
retaining
that
northbound
bike
lane
on
crystal
Drive.
H
So
we
are
indeed
very
happy
to
see
that
you
are
working
to
do
that
and
thank
you,
miss
Gabor
for
working
with
them
to
make
this
all
possible.
We
did
hear
a
bit
about
the
gross
floor
exclusions
and
we'll
get
to
that
a
bit
more.
In
a
moment.
Another
concern
was
the
pedestrian
circulation
through
and
within
the
site
wayfinding
on
the
upper
levels.
How
accessible
was
it
on
the
street-level
signage?
So
people
knew
where
to
park
if
they
were
coming
here
from
not
necessarily
from
the
neighborhood.
H
H
The
applicant
is
requesting
additional
exclusions
from
the
calculation
for
GFA
beyond
those
previously
approved
and
again,
and
the
70's,
the
county
board,
approved
exclusions
of
approximately
fifty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
square
feet,
which
consisted
of
the
underground
public,
pedestrian,
arcades,
the
walkways
and
below
grade
storage.
The
applicant
has
reconfigured
some
of
these
as
part
of
site
development,
resulting
in
an
increase
of
public
pedestrian,
arcade
and
below
grade
storage,
an
increase
of
ninety
four
hundred
square
feet,
so
they
were
therefore
requesting
an
exclusion
from
gfa
calculations
of
this
additional
ninety
four
hundred
square
feet.
H
I
would
like
some
more
understanding
of
why
that's
necessary
what
was
moved.
What
what
happened
that
you
needed
to
reconfigure
this
and
results
in
this
ninety
four
hundred
square
feet.
Staff
does
not
support
this
at
the
present
time
because
it
does
not
conform
to
the
current
zoning
ordinance
and
Zoning
Administrator
interpretation.
The
za
memo
notes
that
request
to
exclude
these
areas
as
density
must
be
considered
by
the
county
board
and
that
they
must
be
evaluated
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
So
this
is
something
for
us
to
think
about
as
we
go
forward
with
this
discussion.
H
As
we've
heard
from
mr.
LAN
tell
me,
the
transportation
commission
does
support
the
additional
exclusion
and
they
see
the
underground
as
providing
valuable,
pedestrian
pathways
and
circulation
options
throughout
the
community.
With
regard
to
other
discussion
topics
and
outstanding
issues,
so
exclusions
would
be
one
and
design
issues
would
be
the
second.
This
happens
to
go
with
the
theater.
H
The
landscaping
I'm
pleased
to
hear
about
these
post
approval,
design,
modifications
working
with
staff,
and
indeed,
staff,
has
been
extremely
helpful
in
helping
to
translate
what
they're
hearing
from
the
community
in
the
SPRC
into
terms
that
work
with
the
development
team.
We
just
heard
from
his
freshman
that
the
community
would
like
to
be
involved
in
this
in
some
way.
H
A
You
very
much,
commissioner
Garin.
So
let
me
let
me
tell
you
what
I've
heard
in
terms
of
our
our
agenda
and
then
I'll
ask
for
additions.
If
you,
if
you
think
we
need
them
the
way
I
have
this
in
the
following
order,
would
be
architecture
and
design
that
would
include
the
cube,
the
theater
cube
and
the
interior
site
design
in
terms
of
circulation,
both
auto
and
pedestrian
and
bikes,
the
two
items
they
are,
the
protected
bike
lane
and
double
parking
and
drop-off
concerns.
A
We
hadn't
heard
anything
about
parking.
Maybe
we
should
add
that
I
know.
Mr.
lash
was
eliminated
that
slide
due
to
lack
of
time,
but
we
could
go
back
and
ask
him
for
that
slide.
Open
space,
trees,
landscaping,
I,
wanted
some
clarification
on
the
interior
park.
I
wasn't
quite
sure
what
you
had
said
about
what
will
happen
to
that
and
the
exclusions
in
that
the
exclusion
of
the
nine
approximately
9,000
square
feet
from
GFA.
I
A
A
A
A
Have
parking
and
under
under
that
we
could
talk
about
garage
design,
just
general
categories
and
please
feel
free
to
feel
free
to
bring
up
what
you
look
like
so
I'm,
just
gonna
write
that
down
so
I
have
it:
okay,
let's
start
with
architecture
and
design
the
theater,
the
theater
cube,
which
we
heard
from
his
freshman.
Who
is
reflecting
a
lot
of
discussion
at
the
SPRC
who
would
like
to
start
I.
A
Wanted
to
just
add,
I
picked
up
on
a
comment
from
our
speaker
about
a
windowless
cube,
and
that
suggested
to
me
that
the
theater
is
very
welcome
in
this
place,
but
perhaps
there
are
different
ways
to
treat
the
theater
cube
as
you're,
calling
it
and
in
fact
those
a
texture,
four
or
some
sort
of
design
for
the
these
surfaces
that
rise
I
think
it's
90
feet
was
suggested
during
the
SPRC.
But
my
question
would
be
you
you
seem
to
have
not
embraced
that
solution.
There's
another
solution
about
false
windows,
and
things
like
that.
D
Course
so
I
think
we
had
a
robust
discussion
during
SPRC.
We've
had
a
lot
of
discussions
internally
as
well
about
what
that
architectural
treatment
wants
to
be
during
the
SPRC.
We
showed
a
couple
of
different
options:
everything
from
some
classical
designs
that
would
break
that
massing
to
planting
options
and
to
you
know
large-scale
art,
pieces
and
murals
and
an
our
takeaway
was
that
there
were
sort
of
perceived
merits
and
detriments
to
all
of
those,
and
we
had
a
hard
time
kind
of
sensing
consensus
on
what
people
wanted,
that
to
be
I.
D
Think
some
people,
including
ourselves
internally,
think
you
know
large
expressions
in
the
classical
sense,
draw
attention
to
the
box.
Some
people
look
at
the
art
and
say
that's
gonna
be
static
and
and
maybe
cool
for
a
week,
but
then
it
starts
to
become
tiresome.
So
all
of
that
feedback-
both
SPRC
and
internally,
has
continued
to
push
us
back
to
this
idea
that
this
is
an
architectural
expression
that
wants
to
be
quiet
and-
and
that
really
is
how
we've
sort
of
landed
back
at
this
original
quiet
design,
I.
A
Appreciate
that
I
do
believe
there
are
pros
and
cons
and
I
think
you
have
maintained
your
your
sense
that
downplaying
the
building
is
is
the
way
to
go.
I
think
these
are
aesthetic,
as
there
are
different
aesthetic
sensibilities
that
work
here,
but
I'd
invite
other
commissioners
Commissioner
Len
tell
me
I.
G
Actually
want
to
go
on
record
as
supporting
that
Lisner
auditorium
in
downtown
DC
is
a
actually
a
similar.
Look,
the
light
white
very
clean,
very
simple:
it's
a
very
active
area
there.
It
doesn't
it
all
dead
in
that
area,
so
the
GW
campus
in
in
DC,
it's
a
very
a
very
active
area
and
I
think
it
fits
in
quite
nicely
now
it
might
have
to
do
it
portion,
but
it
has
the
same.
G
K
K
K
Walls,
but
it
has
the
benefit
of
being
articulated
in
very
dramatic
forms
and
I,
think
that
something
like
this
is
better
carried
off.
When
you
have
that
dimensionality
I,
wonder
if
there
might
not
also
be
the
option
to
look
at
treatments
I
and
the
architect
in
me
says
that
faux
windows
and
and
sort
of
contrived
treatments
are
not
the
solution,
but
I've
seen
a
number
of
interesting
design
alternatives
for,
for
example,
large
parking
garages
in
urban
centers
that
get
a
variety
of
treatments
in
Miami.
K
There's
a
dozen
of
them
right
off
the
main
drag
there
and
they're
just
sort
of
overgrown
as
as
perfect
green
foliage
cubes
as
one
example,
others
are
treated
with
a
variety
of
finishes.
That
may
be
just
material
finish
or
may
be
attached
to
articulate
and
and
sort
of
decorate
the
box.
So
that
would
be
an
alternative.
A
Perhaps
that's
a
you
might
want
to
look
at
the
garages
in
Miami
and
see
it
occurred
to
me
or
just
say
and
I.
Don't
know
what
the
restrictions
or
the
permissions
are
for
this.
It
looks
to
me,
like
a
wonderful
canvas
to
generate
a
light
design
sort
of
the
you
you
could
project
at
different
times.
A
Okay,
anybody
else,
the
cube.
Why
don't
we
talk
about
the
interior
site
design?
I
know
we
pushed
you
at
a
SPRC
to
consider
that.
Are
there
any
further
comments
about
that?
My
only
question
was
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
that
the
park,
the
current
quiet
open
space
in
that
area
will
go
away,
but
you
will.
It
will
be
replaced
by
parks
on
either
side
of
the
superblock,
correct,
15th,
Street
and
18th
Street.
Is
that
what
you
had
said?
That's.
D
A
That
was
what
you
were
meant
to
say.
Are
there
any
other
comments
on
that?
No
okay:
let's
move
to
circulation
cars,
pedestrian,
including
protected
bike
lane
we
want
to
talk
about
that.
Does
anybody
have
further
comments?
It
looks
like
that's
being
considered.
There's
some
work
being
done.
Maybe
we
could
have
miss
Gabor,
give
us
a
sort
of
update
rundown
on
where
we
are
with
that.
L
Thank
you
again.
My
name
is
Joanne
Gabor
I'm
with
DES.
So
after
the
last
SPRC
meeting,
we
continued
to
work
with
the
applicant
and
what
we
ended
up
doing
is
introducing
the
northbound
and
southbound
bike
lane.
These
are
not
protected
bike
lanes,
defined
as
having
some
sort
of
flexible
bollard
or
some
sort
of
raised
median
separated.
It's
just
merely
a
painted
area
on
the
traveling.
L
One
of
the
challenges
in
this
area
is
just
balancing
the
road
width
and
in
the
sidewalk
width
and
trying
to
narrow
the
road
to
minimize
the
pedestrian
crossing,
but
then
also
provide
safe
area
for
the
bicyclists
and
between
discussions
with
the
applicant
and
where
we
were.
We
ended
up
just
having
the
northbound
and
southbound
bike
lane.
Incidentally,
this
is
basically
the
cross
section
that
exists
today
out.
There
is
what
we're
gonna
end
up
with
okay.
H
L
L
We
typically
utilize
seven
foot
parking
lanes
and
send
Mary's
where
we
do
anticipate
a
large
volume
of
turnover.
Where
there's
a
lot
of
retail,
we
may
end
up
using
eight,
but
typically,
we
use
seven
again,
just
because
we're
trying
to
minimize
the
street
cross-section
and
maximize
the
pedestrian
sidewalk
area.
I
L
I
L
L
L
D
Sure,
thanks
Joanne,
so
the
area
that
we've
carved
out
for
the
potential
on
street
loading
is
just
a
couple
feet,
west
of
the
intersection
of
15th
and
Crystal,
so
between
the
proposed
new
loading
dock
and
and
that
intersection
there
and
that's
really
intended
to
try
and
maintain
some
flexibility
for
the
smaller
box
that
some
groceries
use.
We
are
out
there
chasing
potential
grocers.
D
It's
the
smaller
box,
trucks
that
are
coming
in
with
the
fresher
food
that
gets
replenished
more
often
that
they're
looking
for
that
flexibility
for
the
quick
drop-off
that
a
lot
of
grocers
ask
for
and
and
and
that
we're
trying
to
provide
I'd
agree
with
Joanne.
That's
that's
not
an
ideal
scenario
at
all.
When
you
talk
about
friendliness
of
the
sidewalk
having
a
truck
idling,
there's
is
not
something
we're
looking
for,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
not
having
that
isn't
isn't
something
that
prohibits
Crystal
City
from
getting
a
grocery
store.
I
Yeah
and
also
potentially
idling
in
the
bike
lane,
yes
that
so
this
always
comes
up,
doesn't
an
enforcement
issue
and
it's
also
a
design
issue.
So
if
we
don't
I
mean
I'm
glad
you're
thinking
about
it,
but
something
I
think
we
all
get
here
from
the
neighborhoods
that
you
know
whether
you
design
it
or
not
trucks
park
where
they
want
to
park
and
so
something
we
should
all
kind
of
continue
to
work
on.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
L
L
We
are
well
aware
if
we
obviously
want
to
have
the
road
network
and
the
pedestrians
oh
streams,
be
as
safe
as
possible
in
the
road
network
work
as
smoothly
as
possible
in
the
double
parking
and
the
drop-offs
is
not
helping
us
toward
that
goal.
So
it's
something
that
we're
aware
of
we're
cognizant
of
we're.
Looking
at
mechanisms,
you
know
whatever
that
we
can
do
to
try
and
alleviate
this
and
come
up
with
a
happy
medium,
so
everything
can
function
as
it
would
on
the
streets.
That's
available
to
us,
I
guess.
A
Your
you
have
to
balance
the
the
pedestrian
realm,
which
is
very
important
here,
because
of
density
that
we
or
the
population
we
expect
and
wish
to
come
in
the
area
against
the
against
the
more
room
on
the
street
for
the
car
with
a
lay-by
or
something
like
that,
and
it's
not
not
appropriate
in
this
area.
That's.
L
Correct
you
know
it
is
something
you
know
in
certain
areas
we
do
have
loading
areas,
especially
around
hotels,
we'll
have
that
short
term.
You
know
15
minute
loading
area.
You
know
instead
of
the
two
hour
or
four
hour
parking
spots.
So
that's
something
that's
definitely
you
have
a
tool
that
we
can
use
it's
County
right
away.
L
A
L
And
there
definitely
plenty
of
spaces.
I
know
the
applicant
didn't
get
a
chance
to
mention
it,
but
there
are
going
to
be
dedicated.
Elevators
they'll
go
right
from
the
parking
garage
up
to
the
grocery,
so
if
you're
familiar
with
the
Trader
Joe's
and
Clarendon,
so
it
is
something
that
we
hope
with
some
additional
wayfinding
making.
The
garage
thoroughfare
is
easier
to
use
and
more
friendly
to
the
folks
that
aren't
the
everyday
daily
users
that
they'll
use
that
so
then
we
won't
have
as
much
of
an
issue
on
the
streets.
Yes,
thank
you
good.
A
I
It's
actually
more
related
to
bike
parking
and
me,
but
it's
about
the
parking
garage.
It's
fine!
So
in
the
staff
report
on
page
74.
A
I
D
Yes,
so
that
area
that
you've
pointed
out
on
the
g1
level
is
was
previously
used
as
a
fitness
center
for
one
specific
tenant,
who's,
no
longer
a
tenant
of
ours,
and
so
that's
an
area
that
we're
looking
to
reconfigure
to
serve
as
Locker
and
shower
facility
for
the
users
of
the
new
proposed
retail
space.
Okay,.
I
I
L
I
L
So,
as
yep
lien
just
mentioned,
there
are
some
existing
locker
and
shower
facilities
already
on
the
g1g
one
of
the
garage
that
will
be
able
to
be
utilized
by
all
the
tenants.
One
of
the
struggles
we
have
from
a
parking
perspective
is
when
you
have
something:
that's
not
a
full
block
redevelopment
you
have.
This
sort
of
infill
is
the
way
we
do
your
the
bicycle
parking
and,
quite
frankly,
the
vehicle
parking
it
doesn't
fit
into
that
need
box
of
you
know
you
will
have
one
bicycle
parking
space
for
every
6,000
square
foot
for
example.
L
So
if
there
are
a
lot
of
existing
tenants
and
existing
employees
that
may
want
to
utilize
these
services,
so
you
know
we
don't
want
to
take
the
gfa
for
the
entire
block
and
say
the
applet
needs
to
provide
for
that
entire
block,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
we
have
more
than
the
minimum.
So
this
is
basically
memorializing
a
lot
of
discussions
that
we
have
had
with
the
applicant
about.
We
know
where
the
locker
areas
are.
We
know
where
some
SKUs
excuse
me.
L
We
know
where
the
bike
storage
facilities
are
going
to
be,
the
secure
bike,
storage
facilities
are,
and
while
they
haven't
had
a
chance
to
lay
out
the
rooms
exactly.
We
feel
that,
looking
at
the
layout
that
they
have
that
there
is
additional
room
that
they
would
be
able
to
provide
some
additional
blockers.
We
just
sort
of
ran
out
of
time
with
doing
all
the
exact
dimensions
within
the
rooms.
So,
as
we
get
through
to
the
building
permits
set,
that's
when
we'll
be
down
to
that
nitty-gritty
of
how
many
bikes
can
they
fit?
L
I
L
That's
a
little
bit
of
the
challenge.
We
have
I
mean
the
minimum,
that's
shown
on
the
plans
now
we're
comfortable
with
again.
We
would
just
like
to
get
as
many
as
possible
and
try
and
optimize
those
rooms.
It's
something
that
you
know
through
the
course
of
this
I
know
that
if
you
look
at
where
we
start
with
the
bike
parking
where
we
ended,
we
definitely
have
increased
the
number
of
bicycle
spots
and
that
to
me,
a
lot
of
is
just
because
of
additional
excuse
me.
L
D
I'd
be
happy
to
you
know.
Like
Joann
said,
we've
been
working
pretty
closely
with
staff
on
this
one
and
we
are
in
sort
of
a
strange
spot,
given
the
requirements
are
for
the
net
new
density
and
we
certainly
meet
those
minimums
and
are
working
with
staff
to
try
and
find
ways
to
exceed
that.
I'd
say
that
in
general,
as
a
company,
we
recognize
that
shower
facilities.
Lockers
etcetera,
are
incredibly
valuable
and
used
by
our
tenants
all
over
the
region.
So
we
feel
like,
what's
being
planned
for
and
provided
for
today
is
doing
a
gonna.
D
Do
a
great
job
of
helping
us
understand.
What
is
that
long
term
demand?
So
if
we
provide
these
and
all
of
a
sudden
they're
full,
that's
a
great
sign
to
us
that
we
need
to
start
looking
at
other
spaces
and
figuring
out.
Is
that
the
highest
and
best
use
for
that
space?
Or
is
that
something
that
should
also
be
turned
into
as
a
part
of
another
capital
improvement
project
in
another
building
into
another
facility?
Very.
A
J
L
1515
10
crystal
drive,
you
mean
you
threw
me
for
a
loop
at
23rd
Street.
Therefore,
second,
sorry
so
on
15th
Street,
the
required
minimum,
clear
sidewalk
is
6
feet
and
the
required
overall
streetscape
is
a
15
to
18
foot.
Mixed
commercial
is
what
it
is
classified
as,
and
that
is
the
same
for
Crystal
Drive,
okay,.
J
L
They
are,
we
actually
have
a
minimum
of
8-foot
clear
sidewalks
in
a
if
you
will
a
linear
forward
path
along
the
entire
front
edge
of
15
and
crystal
drive.
The
additional
green
again
is
just
you
know,
as
a
applicant
mentioned
we're
just
trying
to
introduce
as
much
green
as
we
can
and
balance
that
with
the
pedestrian
area.
L
J
D
Sure,
Victoria
you
mind
just
jumping
to
page
50
of
the
PDF
perfect.
So
this
is
a
section.
I
think
does
a
good
granites,
it's
it's
a
specific
cut
at
two.
So
if
you
look
at
the
key
to
the
top
right,
you
can
see
where
the
section
is
cut
and
so
that
shows
sort
of
how
we
think
about
different
types
of
cafe
zones.
This
particular
section
shows
the
retail
parklet
that
sits
between
the
the
curb
tree
pit
and
then
the
8-foot
pedestrian
area.
So
that's
one.
We
call
it
an
outdoor,
dining,
outboard,
dining
area.
D
D
Don't
think
I
have
the
right
section
on
me,
but
another
example
would
be
an
inboard
dining
area,
so
there
you'd
see
on
the
facade
facing
side
of
the
8-foot
clear,
for
example
like
a
two-top
table
that
would
that
would
sit
in
bored
of
that
sidewalk
and
against
the
facade
again
I'm,
just
a
way
to
sort
of
bring
some
of
that
activity
out
to
the
street,
but
in
either
of
those
scenarios
the
area
being
used
for
those
tabletops
is
is
not
included
and
not
set
in
the
space
of
that
minimum.
Clear.
A
J
I
did
have
a
question
on
trees,
again,
I
think
in
front
of
the
theater
area
you
had
on
23rd,
you
showed
some
trees
in
pots
and
so
I
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
about
and
they
were
very
tall,
trees
and
I.
Think
you
did
make
the
comment
that
probably
they
couldn't
get
that
tall.
So
are
you
looking
at
perhaps
raised
beds
instead,
or
are
you
actually
looking
at
pots
so.
D
The
the
one
area
along
its
along
crystal
drive
at
the
at
the
corner
of
15th
and
crystal
right
in
front
of
grocer,
that's
where
we
have
existing
stock,
so
we
can't
sink
down
which
is
requiring
the
use
of
something
above
grade.
We
did
look
at
really
large
planners
and
unfortunately,
we
don't
have
the
structural
capacity
of
the
existing
structure
to
support
those,
which
is
what
forces
us
towards
the
smaller
than
we'd,
like
pots
that
exists
for
off
the
top
of
my
head.
D
I'd
call
it
probably
four
six
forty
to
sixty
feet,
the
rest
of
crystal
drive
and
the
entirety
of
15th
Street
would
be
the
the
standard
tree
pit
that
you're
used
to
seeing
I
want
to
say
it's
four,
four
by
five
minimums
that
allow
that
root
growth
to
have
the
space
necessary
to
be.
You
know,
turning
to
a
mature
tree,
so.
D
J
D
D
K
D
D
E
K
My
question
was
not
really
related
to
tree
pots,
but
the
alternative
to
tree
pots,
which
would
be
in
a
regular
tree
planters
in
the
sidewalk,
in
which
case
it
would
impact
that
vault
right,
if
that
were
a
parking
space
under
their
perimeter
parking.
That
would
be
a
potential
option.
But
if
it's
a
utility
vault
and
things
like
that,
yeah,
that's
much
more
problematic.
H
H
H
Thank
you
and
then
the
second
issue
was
with
regard
to
the
trees
planted
around
the
theater.
There
was
some
concern
in
the
SPR
seas.
Some
people
said:
oh,
that's
plenty
of
space.
Some
said
no,
there's
not,
and
we
said
we're
just
gonna
fill
up
better.
If
you
talk
with
Vincent
or
another
urban
forester,
and
that's
happened.
Yes,.
D
So
I'm
Simon,
our
Landscape
Architect
and
Vincent,
had
a
chance
to
talk
and
I
believe
that
they're
in
agreement
that
there
is
the
required
depth
to
get
those
maturity
trees.
On
the
back
side,
we
actually
have
a
good
number
of
mature
trees
back
there
today,
I'm
sort
of
sort
of
lucky
in
that
we're
able
to
replicate
some
of
that
existing
condition
to
replace
the
mature
trees
that
we're
losing
and
then
obviously
to
continue
to
keep
healthy.
The
mature
trees
are
trying
to
keep
back
there
great.
H
And
then
the
third
question
I
has
had
to
do
with
the
planting
on
the
theater.
We
were
excited
about
the
green
roof
and
we
recognize
it's
not
publicly
accessible,
but
we
did
ask
that
if
you
do
vegetate
it,
you
do
with
things
that
are
visible
from
the
street.
So
we
get
some
of
that
benefits
and
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
from
either
the
four
point
one
or
the
site
plan
conditions
where
that
sort
of
codified.
D
Have
to
double-check
the
language
of
those
details.
I'll
say
that
it's
certainly
our
intent
to
make
that
the
case
when
we
show
green
spilling
over
and
renderings.
It's
something
we're
really
looking
to
achieve
to
the
right
planting
beds
and
right
irrigation.
So
if
it's
all
right
with
you,
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
that's
in
our
submission
set
and
add
a
note,
if
possible,
following
this
hearing
or
follow
up
with
you,.
H
That's
fine,
it's
my
intent
that
that
happened,
because
that's
what
we
heard
from
the
community
and
we
keep
hearing,
they
want
this
green
space.
They
want
this
open
space
and
this
provides
some
of
those
same
amenities
and
I'm.
I'm,
not
sure
how
you
will
achieve
this,
but
certainly
shrubs
that
are
a
little
taller
than
ground
cover,
would
be
visible.
Fines
that
spill
over
the
sides
Peter
does
that
mr.
Schultz
does
that
work
for
us
to
have
them
at
a
note.
C
Yeah
and
they
can
work
with
the
landscape
architect
again
to
make
sure
that
that's
explicitly
shown
they
also
with
have
been
working
with
our
fresh
air
team.
Yes,
while
they're
not
achieving
LEED
certification.
With
this
proposed
project,
we
are
agreeing
to
a
green
vegetated
roof,
so
they
could
work
with
both
our
landscape,
architect
and
the
lead,
and
you
know
all
the
exhibits
they've
shown
to
show
these
kind
of
types
of
plantings.
You
know
those
become
part
of
the
record,
so
after
approval
we
can
work
with
them.
Yeah.
H
A
D
E
D
J
We
received
a
letter
and
there
was
a
comment
made
about
open
space
that
I
thought
was
important
enough
to
read
a
little
bit
of
the
letters
from
mr.
Cristal,
and
he
talks
about
the
fact
that
the
bill
line
recommendation
in
the
sector
plan
has
often
are
he
seeing
as
having
negative
repercussions
for
the
pursuit
of
new
public
open
space.
He
goes
on
to
mention
that
he
thinks
that
it's
led
to
the
integration
of
open
space
within
or
on
top
of
residential
buildings
and
really
limiting
the
ability
of
the
public
to
actually
access
the
open
space.
J
I
think
we've
seen
this
in
other
places
as
well,
but
the
sector
plan
requests
that
the
efforts
be
made
in
case
is
to
offer
public
access,
but
he's
concerned
that
this
hasn't
happened
and
what
he's
concerned
about
is
that
buildings
are
taking
on
the
nature
of
gated
communities.
So
I
was
curious
because
maybe
I've
misunderstood
a
little
bit
about
the
the
trade-offs
that
that
are
happening.
J
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
just
very
briefly
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
existing
green
space,
especially
in
the
middle
of
you
know,
between
buildings,
is
being
traded
out,
and
you
know
what
the
level
of
commitment-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
staff.
What
the
level
of
commitment
is
to
actually
realize
the
green
space
along
I
believe
it's
18th
and
maybe
also
15th.
There
was
some
talk
about
the
grocery
loading
dock,
that
you're
doing
away
with
becoming
a
future
park.
Sure.
D
So
this
slide
I
think
is
a
good
place
to
start
the
top
image
you
see.
The
existing
image
Thanks
shows
between
the
1550
building
in
the
1750
building
there's
an
hour
area.
That's
about
50
percent,
green
and
50
percent
pavement.
The
majority
of
that
space
does
get
built
over
by
the
theater
we're
able
to
preserve
a
portion
of
the
mature
trees
that
exist
today
in
that
north-south
passage
way.
But
it
is
correct
to
say
that
a
majority
that
that
upper
level
plaza
space
goes
away.
D
I'd
say
that
that
space
is
really
successful
and
that
it's
allowed
to
become
mature
and
feels
very
lush
where
I
think
it's
unsuccessful
is
that
it
is
an
area
that
is
elevated
above
street
level
and
buried
between
essentially
five
different
buildings.
So
it
certainly
doesn't
have
a
public
easement,
but
on
top
of
that
it
just
doesn't
feel
very
public
and
particularly
open
and
visible
to
that
public.
D
So
this
is
an
area
that
the
sector
plan
calls
for
to
be
built
over
and
for
that
amount
of
space
and
then
some
to
be
replaced
in
the
form
of
the
sector
plan,
18th,
Street
Park
and
that's
a
park
that
we're
currently
discussing
with
the
SPRC
lrpc
process.
As
a
part
of
the
second
phase
of
this
application,
Commissioner.
H
H
C
People
here
in
certainly
this
is
really
a
multi-phase
project
for
the
gradual
redevelopment
of
this
block.
It's
not
a
full
redevelopment
of
this
block,
but
the
developer
has
worked
with
staff
to
break
this
out
in
phases.
This
first
phase
that
we're
seeing
here
is
an
amendment
to
the
existing
site
plan
to
add
the
retail
along
Crystal
Drive
and
15th
Street.
C
Now
that,
because
it
is
a
rezoning
to
Co
Crystal
City,
at
least
for
the
portion,
that's
residential
triggered
a
block
planning
process
and
what
the
block
planning
process
is
is
a
small
plan
of
the
through
the
long
range
planning
committee
of
the
Planning
Commission.
The
main
topic
of
discussion
will
be
the
nature
of
the
18th
Street
open
space,
which
the
sector
plan
anticipates
to
be
a
major
public.
We
dedicated
space
and
whether
a
two-story
retail
pavilion
building
at
the
corner
of
18th
Street
and
crystal
drive
is
appropriate.
C
That
was
something
that
was
not
anticipated
by
the
sector
plan,
so
the
process
going
forward
in
this
second
phase
of
the
applicants,
the
partial
redevelopment
of
the
block
is
really
going
to
examine
whether
that
building
is
appropriate
to
be
there.
What
will
then
consequences
be
for
the
Oh
space
that
results?
What
kind
of
open
space
would
the
public
be
dedicating
with
the
public
beginning
and
and
what?
What
would
the
the
the
nature
of
it
a
nature
of
it
be?
C
Would
it
be
negatively
impacted
by
having
a
second
a
building
in
an
area
whether
it
was
a
sector
plan
was
not
called
for?
Of
course,
the
sector
plan
is,
you
know,
anticipated
full
block
clean
slate
redevelopment
razed
to
the
ground,
which
we
know
is
just
for
many
practical
reasons,
not
feasible,
and
so
does
the
applicants
proposal,
though,
generally
follow
the
sector
plans
general
guidance,
so
this
is
at
least
a
two-phase
project.
C
H
A
J
And
I
would
say
that
I
really
appreciated
the
memo.
The
very
detailed
and
thorough
and
thoughtful
memo
we
received
for
mr.
all,
because
I
realized
I
also
was
not
clear
on
something,
but
the
filling
the
retail
on
the
above
ground
is
clearly
within
your
realm
and
your
responsibility,
the
underground
location,
whose
responsibility
is
it
to
fill
that
retail
as.
J
Also,
yours,
so
anything
that
comes
under
your
building.
Okay,
wonderful-
and
there
was
a
comment
again
from
mr.
all
that
it
raised
a
question
as
to
you
know
how
how
do
you
envision
the
retail
and
the
differentiation
I
guess
of
retail
and
how
one
doesn't
how
the
above-ground
doesn't
make
the
underground
less
viable?
How
do
they
interact
basically,
and
and
what
is
your
plan
for
that
sure.
D
So
I
think
it's
it's
it's
a
complicated
plan
with
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
and
a
lot
of
individual
businesses,
many
of
whom
have
been
there
for
a
long
long
time
in
general.
Our
thought
is
that
the
best
neighborhoods
or
neighborhoods
that
have
active
and
vibrant
streets
and
that
retail,
along
with
greenery
right
right,
streetscape
choices
and
many
other
things,
helps
make
those
streets
vibrant.
You
know
sort
of
the
Jane
Jacobs
eyes
on
the
street
approach,
I
think
when
it
comes
to
the
underground.
D
It's
a
little
bit
of
a
unique
beast
that
we
have
here
in
Crystal,
City
I
think
there
are
some
tenants
that
that
are
clamoring
to
get
a
view
of
the
sky
and
and
be
out
on
on
street
level.
Some
of
those
tenants
are
ones
we're
starting
conversations
with
to
actually
come
out
to
Crystal
Drive,
and
then
there
are
other
tenants
who
are
very
successful
in
the
underground
and
and
would
prefer
to
stay
and
and
and
that
we
think
are
complimentary
to
that
sort
of
indoor
outdoor
experience.
G
G
D
It's
so
so
in
order
to
bridge
those
two
areas
that
retail
would
have
to
be
very
deep
well
over
a
hundred
feet.
Deep.
Most
retailers
who
really
are
concerned
with
outdoor
street
frontage
and
and
visible
light,
really
don't
have
any
interest
in
renting
space
deeper
than
you
know.
Sixty
eighty
feet
so
I
think
it's
probably
one
fairly
unlikely
that
we
were
able
to
get
retailers
who
are
willing
to
rent
that
space.
That's
that
deep
and
then
the
other
challenge
becomes.
D
If
you
have
frontage
on
both
sides,
you
don't
have
anywhere
for
back-of-house,
so
our
preference
and
I
think
the
retailer's
preference
for
the
most
part
would
be
making
sure
that
their
storefront
is
transparent
and
vibrant
and
pushing
that
back
of
house
to
somewhere.
That's
not
on
the
street,
so
I
think
that
that
would
make
it
really
make
it
a
really
challenging
requirement
just
require
two
fronts
of
house
and
and
not
give
them
space
for
backup
house.
D
Might
have
misunderstood
the
question
we
will
not
allow
anyone
to
turn
Krystal
drive
into
their
back
of
house
that
that
that
would
be
required
to
be
front
of
house.
We'd
have
very
stringent
requirements
around
how
the
signage
can
work,
how
their
brand
expression
can
work,
typically
working
with
tenants
to
design
and
provide
for
operable
storefronts
to
help
increase
that
transparency.
We
would
not
let
somebody
turn
Krystal
drive
into
into
back-of-house.
Sorry
for
the
misunderstanding:
okay,
okay,.
I
You,
madam
chair
mr.
Schultz
I,
have
a
question
on
page
76
of
the
staff
report
about
the
temporary
facade
treatments
for
retail
frontages
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
address
it's
in
f1a
here
in
the
underlined
text,
wondering
if
you
could
address
how
long
these
could
be
temporary,
it's
obviously
until
the
the
retail
is
occupied,
but
I'm
wondering
if
we're
kind
of
struggling
to
get
a
retail
tenant.
How
long
is
temporary.
C
Well,
a
staff
would
support
for
as
long
as
it
takes
for
that
retail
space
to
be
filled.
You
know,
the
retail
space
being
filled
depends,
of
course,
on
market
forces,
and
things
like
that
so
staffed
I.
Don't
want
to
put
a
lot
of
time
limit
on
those.
If
the
the
thing
is.
Is
that,
fortunately,
with
their
the
developer
is
generally
requires
the
the
applicant
to
kind
of
build
out
the
facade
and
do
their
particular
work.
C
What
this
colorful
treatment
would
do
and
they
have
used
it
elsewhere
in
Crystal
City,
on
projects
they
own
elsewhere
in
the
metropolitan
areas,
that
it
would
at
least
provide
some
sort
of
color
and
and
and
interest
to
the
street
that
wouldn't
need
a
have
to
come
back
for
a
site
plan
amendment
that
administrative
Lea,
you
know
subject
to
the
sign
regulations.
They
could
have
these
artistic
treatments
that
at
least
provide
interest
for
a
pedestrian
passing,
and
we
think
that
this
would
be
a
good
thing
to
even
do
elsewhere
in
the
county.
D
D
You
know
our
opinion
is
that
perceive
vacancy
but
gets
more
vacancy
and
that
if
you
have
sort
of
that
dead,
storefront
it's
colorless,
it
makes
it
a
lot
less
friendly
for
not
just
the
pedestrians
but
other
tenants
who
are
looking
to
potentially
move
in.
So
those
are
areas
that
we
like
to
treat
artistically.
Have
them
be
colorful,
have
them
be
vibrant?
So,
even
though
they're
not
open
for
business,
they
feel
okay
to
walk
by
and
and
that's
something
that
obviously
there
are.
D
I
A
I
do
have
I,
guess
a
comment
and
then
a
question
to
two
points:
I've
spoken
to
a
lot
of
people
in
in
this
neighborhood
who
really
regret
that
so
much
of
the
retail
that's
successful
are
the
chain
stores
the
Anthropology
and
you
can
name
it
that
comes
to
mind
and
that
it
would
be
really
wonderful
to
have
interesting,
maybe
local,
smaller
unusual
businesses
we're
not
Williamsburg
Brooklyn
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
challenge
there.
So
that's
kind
of
one
comment.
A
The
other
comment
is
we're
seeing
as
the
county
redevelops,
we
do
see
areas
that
supported
very
local
businesses
being
kind
of
driven
out
I,
don't
know
what
all
of
the
determinants
are
for
that.
I
know
that
ad
our
staff
is
working
on
a
study
for
Columbia
Pike,
so
I'd
like
you
to
comment
on
that
and
wonder
whether
for
recruiting
or
marketing
those
spaces,
you
wouldn't
consider,
for
example,
taking
a
look
at
small
businesses
that
are
actually
being
displaced
because
of
development.
So.
D
I'll
start
with
the
the
second
question.
First
and
it's
sort
of
you
know
where
where's
the
retail
going.
This
is
how
I
heard
it
and
and
it's
it's
two-part
one-
is
that
retail
is
a
already
a
pretty
fast-paced
world
and
it's
getting
faster
and
and
ever-changing,
and
there
are
certainly
some
headwinds
in
the
retail
world.
We
see
that,
in
you
know
the
bigger
box
stores
that
are
closing
across
the
country.
D
There
are
some
real
opportunities
and
and
right
now
we
see
a
lot
of
the
opportunities
being
more
on
the
experiential
side,
and
so
that's
in
a
lot
of
forms,
much
more
dining
heavy.
Something
that
can't
be
replaced
by
you
know
a
a
click
in
a
credit
card
entry
online,
so
those
types
of
operations
are
doing
particularly
well.
D
I
think
that
the
along
the
lines
of
the
question
of
how
can
you
know
we,
as
as
a
region
and
specifically
as
a
county,
help
retain
and
attract
retail
when
we
sit
down
with
retailers,
especially
the
small
business
retailers,
but
even
even
the
larger
chains,
that
you'd
assume
would
have
lots
and
lots
of
capacity
and
bandwidth,
but
in
those
smaller
chains,
they're
struggling
to
identify
that
one
next
site.
You
know:
where
are
we
going
to
plant
our
second
flag
and
when
they
start
to
look
around
the
region?
D
They
certainly
look
at
traffic
and-
and
you
know,
parking
and
visibility
and
all
of
those
important
things,
but
they
also
look
at.
Where
can
we
operate
in
a
place
where
we
can
get
open
really
quickly?
They
aren't
financed
in
a
way
that
allows
them
to.
You
know,
take
12
months
to
build
out,
not
own
any
income.
D
So
where
can
we
open
really
quickly,
and
where
can
we
be
in
a
place
where
we're
allowed
to
express
our
brand
that
comes
across
in
terms
of
signage
and
and
and
most
of
them
are
looking
to
find
creative
ways
to
express
their
brand
and
differentiate
themselves?
In
terms
of
color
in
terms
of
materiality
from
their
neighbors,
we
love
it.
We
think
that
it
helps
add
a
little
bit
more
of
that
patchwork
quilt
aspect
to
a
particular
neighborhood.
All
within
reason.
D
The
first
question
along
the
lines
of
sort
of
the
chain
versus
the
smaller
business,
something
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
focusing
on
it.
We
have
a
whole
retail
team
that
focuses
exclusively
on
something
that
we
call
merchandising,
but
what
it
really
is
is
retail
curation
and
it's
trying
to
pick
out
spaces
for
not
just
specific
uses
but
specific
kinds
of
uses.
So
the
example
I
always
like
to
fall
back
on
is
coffee.
D
So
if
you
look
at
a
neighborhood
like
Crystal
City,
there's
demand
for
well
more
than
one
coffee
shop
and
also
when
you
look
at
a
place
like
Crystal
City,
you
have
everything
from
long-term
residents
who
own
renters
hotels
as
well
as
offices,
and
they
all
have
different
needs
when
it
comes
to
coffee.
Sometimes
people
want
quick
service,
reliable,
cheap
price
and
there
are
brands,
often
chains
that
supply
that
and
and
those
can
exist,
but
there's
also
people
who
want
to
meet
somebody
for
a
cup
of
coffee
and
take.
D
You
know,
don't
mind,
taking
five
minutes
to
order
and
would
like
to
enjoy
that
cup
of
coffee
for
twenty
minutes
and
there's
smaller
groups
and
a
lot
of
them
being
local
that
can
cater
to
that.
And
so
we
look
to
try
and
find
a
balance
there.
So
on
this
particular
block.
It's
interesting
because
we
have
a
mix
of
office,
but
also
some
proximity
to
retail.
So
this
area
of
crystal
both
this
block
and
the
block
immediately
south
is
one
where
we
are
looking
at
coffee
and
trying
to
figure
out.
D
A
You
very
much
we
we
benefit
from
your
thinking
about
it,
a
difficult
issue,
anybody
else
on
retail,
okay,
let's,
let's
talk
about
the
exclusion
Oh,
certainly
before.
H
C
Well,
we'll
certainly
work
together
with
them
and
provide
to
try
to
strategize
a
way
to
bring
the
community
and
to
consult
with
on
this
process.
So
not
I,
don't
think
a
formal
process,
but
we
would
certainly
work
with
the
urban
design
staff,
our
County
architect,
and
definitely
include
our
our
constituents
of
the
Crystal
City
Civic
Association,
in
in
coming
up
with
a
solution.
H
A
K
Might
be
opening
Pandora's
box
here,
but
this
is
gonna
come
up
over
and
over
again
I
suspect
and
I
I
questioned
the
future
of
the
underground
and
how
many
fights
we
want
to
have
like
the
exclusion
here
for
it
as
crystal
city
starts
to
redevelop
and
the
streets
are
become
vital,
exciting
places
to
be
I,
don't
see
the
viability
of
the
underground
retail
for
for
a
long
period
of
time.
So
I
guess
my
point
is:
when
does
that
discussion
begin
and,
and
when
does
it
start
to
factor
into
our
decision
here?
The
Planning
Commission
I.
A
D
D
The
the
connection
point
between
Victoria
mind
just
with
the
mouse
showing
that
north-south
run
perfect
right
there
there
exactly.
That's
that's
what
previously
existed
as
a
north-south
connection
point
as
a
part
of
the
overall
infrastructure.
It's
one
that
we
heard
was
an
important
one
to
keep.
So,
although
we're
being
forced
to
demolish
it
to
build
the
theater,
that's
one
that
we
would
and.
D
A
D
Addition
to
some
of
that
storage
area-
that's
sort
of
left
effectively
stranded.
The
94
gets
a
little
confusing
the
way
I
try
to
frame.
It
is
currently
there's
about
fifty
eight
thousand
square
feet
of
underground
corridor
and
storage
area.
That's
excluded.
Under
the
old
approved
plan.
In
the
proposal
there
will
be
sixty-seven
thousand
square
feet
of
corridor
and
storage
area
that
we're
looking
for
exclusion
on.
So
you
end
up
getting
that
Delta
of
the
94.
So.
E
D
Building,
storage
and-
and
it's
it's
really
sort
of
stranded
space
that
isn't
viable
as
underground
retail,
but
also
isn't
leasable.
So
it's
not
space,
we're
looking
to
exclude
and
then
earn
income
on.
It's
not
space
that
we'd
be
allowed
to
earn
income
on,
because
it
is
called
out
as
building
storage.
It's
the
kind
of
space
that,
for
the
most
part,
sets
dark
and
empty
highest
and
best
use
would
be
trying
to
find
a
space
in
there
for
like
a
holiday,
Christmas
tree.
D
G
Yeah,
this
storage
space-
you
do
have
a
number
of
offices
down
there.
Now
that
are
more
professional
services,
like
doctors,
offices,
eyeglass,
this
storage
space
could
not
be
used
for
those
type
of
things,
that
less
stores
that
don't
need
windows
don't
need
outside
access,
and
you
said
you
couldn't
lease
it
or
is
it
you're
saying
this
is
a
practical
matter
or
is
there
something
that
prevents
you
from
leasing
it
legally?
So.
J
If
list
yeah
35
staff
lists,
the
memorandum
was
quotes,
the
memorandum
from
the
Zoning
Administrator
about
exclusions
to
GFA,
and
so
there
are
five
five
items
here
listed.
So
are
you
claiming
the
exclusion
under
number
two
which
talks
about
ancillary
space
below
grade
use
to
store,
provide
for
equipment.
M
I
wanted
to
just
mention
one
one
thing,
commissioner
McSweeney,
because
I
do
think
it's
important
when
considering
these
five
elements
that
are
cited
is
to
actually
take
a
look
at
the
language
of
the
memo
and
I'll.
Just
read
it
to
you
here.
This
is
the
lead-in
to
showing
those
five
items.
It
says
examples
of
the
types
of
spaces
for
which
density
exclusions
have
been
requested
and
approved
in
the
past
include
the
following.
M
However,
all
future
requests
are
to
be
evaluated
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
so
I
think
it's
important
before
we
talk
about
what
of
these
categories.
Our
request
may
fit
into
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
document
that
staffs
relying
on
does
not
provide
these
five
elements
as
the
only
types
of
areas
that
may
be
excluded.
Rather,
they
are
examples
of
what
has
been
approved
in
the
past,
but
the
guidance
going
forward
is
to
consider
each
of
these
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
M
So
I
think
that's
important
to
mention
at
the
outset,
so
that
we're
clear
I
do
think
the
the
particular
space
is
we're
looking
at
here
could
potentially
fit
into
category
number
two,
but
I
also
want
to
be
careful,
because
the
reason
we
are
having
this
discussion
is
not
only
for
this
block
in
this
particular
request,
but
the
impacts
for
the
underground
generally
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
limit
the
discussion
to
potentially
storage
space.
When
really
we're
have
this
discussion
going
forward
related
to
purely
arcade
space
on
other
blocks
within
Crystal
City.
J
N
H
You
mind:
if
I,
would
you
mind
Erin
I
was
going
to
ask
mr.
Schreiber.
Would
you
also,
as
part
of
your
discussion,
tell
us
why
this
is
so
important
from
a
staff
perspective
that
we
not
approve
it
because
I
don't
think
we
fully
understand
where
you're
coming
from
with
that
and
what
the
implications
are
long-term
I
think
that
will
help
our
discussion.
Sure.
N
I'm
happy
to
do
that
so,
first
and
foremost,
the
way
the
staff
report
characterizes
this,
as
it
does
make
reference
to
an
advice,
memorandum
provided
by
the
Zoning
Administrator,
and
what
I
want
to
stress
about
this
is
that
this
is
not
any
new
policy.
All
that
this
letter,
this
advice
memorandum
stated
was
what
the
zoning
ordinance
states
what
gross
floor
area
is,
and
it
differentiates
the
difference
between
gross
floor
area
and
gross
parking
area,
because
for
a
time
a
number
of
developers
were
asking
for
exclusion
of
areas
that
were
gross
floor
area.
N
So
we
had
to
come
to
some
statement
to
remind
everybody
what
the
zoning
ordinance
says
about
it.
So,
a
very
simple
way
of
thinking
about
closed
gross
floor
area
per
our
zoning
ordinances.
Everything
within
the
four
walls
of
the
building-
that's
not
associated
with
the
parking,
it's
it
so
the
underground,
it
counts,
storage
areas,
they
count
venting
day
count,
and
so
the
reason
why
the
staff
report
references.
N
N
So
we
we,
we
respected
that
and
we
understood
what
the
board's
intent
was,
and
so
we
discussed
this
with
the
applicants
and
we
can
support
a
reaffirmation
of
the
exclusion
as
previously
approved
by
the
board,
and
we
would
even
be
okay
with
you
reconfiguring
that
area,
but
as
long
as
you
were
still
providing
the
underground
connection,
any
expansion
of
that,
because
now
it's
new
gfa,
it's
not
something
that
they're
reconsidering.
This
is
new
gf8,
that
they're
adding
to
the
project.
N
That
does
count
and
therefore
it
does
add
to
those
elements
of
the
building,
and
so
we
felt
it
had
to
be
considered
and
it's
not
worthy
of
an
exclusion.
And
so
then
another
point
is
why
this
is
so
important
to
us.
As
you
know,
we
did
look
at
the
sector
plan
and
the
sector
plan
does
talk
about
underground
elements,
and
it
does
remember
that
map
that
Peter
showed
and
I
believe
that
mr.
Lall
showed
it
as
well.
It
showed
those
areas
of
where
the
underground
should
be
preserved
on
this
block.
N
So
when
we
evaluate
the
site
plan,
we're
looking
at
it
from
a
conformance
perspective,
what
the
sector
plan
the
applicant
was
proposing
to
retain
that
they're,
showing
some
reconfigurations,
and
so
that
is
consistent
with
the
sector
plan,
adding
new
density
and
then
excluding
it,
because
they're
still
providing
the
sector
that
requirement
of
the
sector
plan
we
didn't
think
was
worthy
of
an
exclusion.
So
really
what
it
sounds
more
like
is
a
bonus
is
a
modification
of
density
and
something
that
is
being
asked
in
order
to
comply
with
the
sector
plan.
N
So
you
know
if
the
applicant
had
come
forward
and
not
provided
those
elements
of
the
to
plant,
and
we
would
say
this
site
plant
project
is
not
in
conformance
with
the
sector
plan.
We
probably
wouldn't
support
it,
but
the
applicant
was
providing
those
things
and
the
applicant
doesn't
need
any
additional
density
because
they're
redeveloping
under
the
existing
Co
parameters.
So
there
is
no
bonus
density.
N
There's
no
need
to
have
this
density
held
for
other
portions
of
the
block,
and
so
what
they're
asking
for
is
an
exclusion,
and
we
don't
think
it's
appropriate
because
it
does
add
to
the
bulk
in
the
mass
of
the
building.
It
is
new
elements
of
the
building
that
we
have
to
consider
per
the
zoning
ordinance
as
gross
floor
area
and
for
all
those
reasons,
that's
why
staff
does
not
support
that
exclusion
and
I
think
that
I
know
there's
been
a
discussion
that
this
is
something
that
will
address
on.
N
You
know,
block
by
block
basis
and
I
agree
with
you
that
we
will,
but
on
every
block
that
comes
forward
in
Crystal
City
and
where
the
sector
plan
calls
for
the
retention
of
the
sector
plan.
That
is
one
of
the
basic
things
that
we
would
be
looking
for
is
how
that
project
conforms
with
a
sector
plan.
You
know
density
exclusions,
density
bonuses,
that's
a
different
matter,
but
this
site
plan
proposal
the
way
they
are
proposing.
It
though
it
doesn't
reach
the
full
redevelopment
of
the
plan.
N
It
doesn't
preclude
the
achievement
of
some
of
those
elements
of
the
sector
plan.
It
is
providing
those
elements
of
the
underground.
That's
why
we
support
it
in
its
totality,
except
for
this
very
limited
element
of
an
additional
ninety
four
hundred
square
feet
of
density.
That
per
the
exclusion
request
would
be
density
that
would
be
available
for
other
portions
of
future
redevelopment
of
the
block.
J
N
Add
storage,
and
so,
once
again,
the
58
thousand
square
feet
was
comprised
of
passageways,
underground
storage
areas
and
they're
reconfiguring
some
of
those
and
they're
adding
new
storage
areas.
In
addition
to
that,
so
once
again
we
recognize
the
importance
of
having
the
underground.
Here
we
support
the
reaffirmation
of
fifty
eight
thousand
square
feet
to
provide
for
the
underground
in
some
of
those
ancillary
storage
areas
that
were
previously
approved.
We
do
not
support
the
expansion
of
those
two
areas
that
are
being
added
as
new
areas
to
this.
So.
H
N
We
look
at
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
what
you'll
see
we
do
not
in
excuse
me.
In
the
past
we
have
looked
at
a
range
of
exclusions
of
density,
which
the
advice
memorandum
addresses
some
of
those
areas
that
have
been
excluded
in
the
past.
Some
of
these
leftover
spaces
below
grade
some
of
the
vertical
shafts.
N
The
vertical
shafts
is
one
that
we've
been
supportive
of
since
the
publishing
of
this
memo,
but
only
in
the
event
when
those
shafts
vent
directly
to
the
roof
of
the
building,
so
that
you
don't
have
the
horizontal
venting
so
that
it
penetrates
the
face
of
the
building
and
you
get
those
additional
vent.
You
know.
Sometimes
people
refer
to
them
as
the
pig
snouts
and
some
of
those
other
features.
N
So
once
again,
it's
the
idea
of
once
those
are
limited
and
they're
co-located
with
in
corridors
and
other
areas,
and
they
go
directly
to
the
roof
and
they're
not
taking
away
from
other
building
elements
or
adding
to
the
bulk
and
mass
and
those
limited
instances.
We've
been
supporting
those
in
the
past,
but
in
terms
of
actual
density.
Since
the
publishing
of
this
memo,
we
haven't
done
that.
On
the
flip
side,
you
have
seen
some
things
where
there
is
a
modification
of
use
which
essentially
is
a
bonus
density
and
for
doing
certain
things.
A
M
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
a
few
things.
Mister
Schreiber
mentioned
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
dispute
that
this
would
be
considered
gross
floor
area
under
the
definition
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
We
are
asking
for
an
exclusion
to
it
and
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
kind
of
concern
or
dispute
about
that.
It
is
something
that's
been
excluded
in
the
past.
It
was
excluded
in
the
1970s
when
this
was
originally
approved.
So
you
know
it
could
easily
fall
into
this
category
of
the
five
things
that
are
listed
that
had
been
excluded
in
the
past.
M
These
have
been
excluded
in
the
past.
These
kinds
of
areas
I
want
to
be
clear
that
this
is
not
tenant
storage.
This
is
building
storage,
which
is
one
of
the
items
that's
listed
here
in
the
memorandum.
Mr.
Schreiber
made
some
comments
related
to
conformance
with
the
sector
plan
and
ensuring
that
underground
spaces
are
provided
in
order
to
conform
to
the
sector
plan.
Providing
these
underground
areas
advances
the
goals
of
the
sector
plan
I.
M
Think
that's
abundantly
clear
and
I
think
what
we're
saying
is
that
you
know
we're
not
asking
for
any
kind
of
benefit
or
a
bonus
for
conformance
with
the
sector
plan
in
this
area,
but
we
also
don't
want
to
be
punished
for
it.
We
don't
want
to
have
to
incur
an
additional
cost
in
terms
of
buying
up
more
density,
only
to
conform
with
the
recommendations
of
the
sector
plan.
This
is
the
only
circumstance
I've
ever
seen
where
a
developer
actually
gets
punished
for
providing
elements
of
the
sector
plan.
M
As
far
as
this
space
being
needed
later,
oftentimes
we
will
go
back.
Tenants
will
ask
for
additional
space.
The
grocer
may
ask
for
a
mezzanine
space.
This
happened
at
the
Bartlett
at
the
Whole
Foods,
so
there
are
times
when
this
density
may
be
needed
in
order
to
further
build
out
the
block.
You
know
there
was
also
reference
to
the
shafts
and
venting
that
are
okay
to
be
excluded.
O
O
Staff
has
been
very
clear
in
terms
of
how
we're
interpreting
the
the
directive
from
the
Zoning,
Administrator
and
I
believe
the
ordinance
mr.
Shriver
did
an
excellent
job
in
summarizing.
What
the
basis
for
our
position
was.
I
think
it
was
very
unfortunate
that
planning
staff
were
unable
to
attend
the
transportation
commission
meeting.
I
think
we
could
have
clarified
that,
because
I
heard
it
I
heard
a
point
that
the
Transportation
Commission
would
have
liked
him
had
further
discussion
with
staff
we
weren't
there,
and
so
we
could
discuss
this
for
quite
a
while
tonight.
O
I
I
I,
come
back
to
Commissioner.
Rick's
is
kind
of
a
initial
question
and
something
that
I
know
the
Transportation
Commission
also
addressed,
which
is
how
do
we
in
kind
of
in
what's
the
mechanism
to
maintain
the
underground
kind
of?
If
we
want
to
and
I
know,
Commissioner
Rick's
is
kind
of
questioning
that,
but
I
know
that
staff.
If
an
applicant
came
forward
that
wasn't
proposing
to
to
maintain
the
underground
staff,
would
propose.
As
mr.
I
So,
if
we're
not
getting
applicants
to
come
forward
to
do
that,
and
they
don't
respond
to
it
I'm
wondering
kind
of
if,
if
we're
thinking
about
this
in
a
way
that
encourages
this
to
come
forward
the
next
time,
if
we're
not
I
want
to
kind
of
get
your
sense
of,
are
we
being
kind
of
a
Pennywise
and
pound-foolish
in
the
long
run
or
if
you
think
that
the
next
applicant
is
gonna?
Look
at
this
and
say:
I'll
do
the
same
and
I'll
I'll
do
it
even
though
I
didn't
get
the
density
exclusion.
O
Commissioner
Sheryl,
thank
you
for
your
your
comments.
Again,
we
have
a
single
application
before
you
tonight,
and
the
staff
has
indicated
this
application
and,
as
the
applicant
has
presented,
will
continue
and
preserve
the
underground
consistent
with
the
sector
plan.
I
think
that
was
clear
and
mr.
Schultz's
presentation,
as
well
as
mr.
Schreiber's
remarks.
Staff
is
going
to
continue
to
support
the
policy
direction
provided
by
the
sector
plan.
I
know
that's
what
the
crystal
cities
sector
of
Crystal,
City,
Civic,
Association
and
community,
wants
to
continue
to
have
a
support
and
that's
very
important.
O
This
plan
does
that
and
I'd
be
very
careful
looking
ahead
at
future
applications
that
we
don't
have
before
you
tonight
or
before
staff
we're
making
the
decision
this
evening
on
this
particular
application.
We'll
continue
to
have
discussions
with
applicants
in
Crystal
City
about
future
block
plans
future
redevelopment,
but
this
evening
I'd
urge
you
not
to
set
a
new
precedent.
O
I
think
staffs
guidance
and
recommendation
is
on
point
and
I
encourage
you
to
support
that
recommendation.
So
again,
a
madam
chair.
We
can
discuss
this
for
quite
a
while
tonight.
I
think
staff
has
been
very
clear
on
point
with
what
the
position
is,
the
underlying
basis
for
it,
and
especially
we'd,
ask
you
to
support
staffs
position.
Thank.
A
You
mr.
Duffy
I,
just
wanna
I,
don't
want
to
be
here
all
night
discussing
this
issue
and
I
think
we
actually
could
I
appreciate
the
extents
extensive
description
discussion
that
mr.
Shriver
gave
us
I
have
to
say
I
really
at
this
point,
don't
fully
understand
the
reasoning
and
the
logic
it
it's.
It's
very
very
complicated
begins
by
understanding
what
you
mean
by
adding
to
the
bulk
and
mass
of
the
building.
A
Commissioner
Garin
and
I
feel
we've
excluded
non
rentable
below
grade
storage
space
in
other
SPRC,
so
I
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
the
time.
I
think
this
still
is
a
live
issue
for
us,
because
at
least
two
of
us
right
now
don't
quite
follow.
For
me.
What
was
built
out
it
just
looks
to
me
like
there
was
a
straight
line
and
it
had
to
then
curve
around
the
grocery
store
in
order
to
continue
the
the
continuous
corridor,
and
if
that
curve
added
square
feet,
then
that
was
just
a
function
of
the
reconfiguration.
A
O
Sorry
that
that
it's
as
complex
as
it
is
it
seems
like
it
should
be
simple,
but
it
has
a
number
of
ramifications,
I.
Think
and
again,
this
probably
is
a
matter
that
maybe
we
should
discuss
further
with
the
long
range
planning
committee
in
terms
of
its
relationship
to
Crystal
City,
but
again,
I
would
urge
you
I
think
staff
has
given
you
sound
advice
and
I'd
urge
you
to
respectfully
support
staff
with
with
your
motion,
I
do.
G
D
That's
that's
a
great
question.
Some
of
that
space
shown
as
as
storage
is
currently
excluded
as
storage
today
and
and
some
of
that
space
is
predominantly
vacant.
Retail,
so
I
may
have
done
us
a
disservice
by
continuing
refer
to
this,
as
storage
I
say
that
it's
really
ends
up
being
leave
behind
space
that
exists
today
was
already
built.
We
would
love
to
not
have
to
refinish
it
not
have
to
rebuild
it
if
possible,
but
because
it
is
that
existing
structure
and
we
can't
leave
that
that
hole
in
the
earth.
D
D
K
One
more
quick
question
to
mr.
Shriver
in
your
discussion:
I
heard
something
that
all
just
uses
an
analogy
to
explain
it.
You,
you
almost
described
this.
Ninety
four
hundred
square
feet:
exclusion
as
as
sort
of
an
air
rights
where
the
applicant
in
Phase
two
can
use
that
space
somewhere
else
like
free,
like
free,
free
gross
floor
area.
Can
you
just
elaborate
on
that
comment?
Yes,.
N
N
That
is
the
absolutely.
The
concern
is
that
it
is
gfa.
It
is
density.
So
if
you
don't
count
it,
if
you
don't
count
the
hypothetical
ten
thousand
square
feet,
that's
ten
thousand
square
feet
more,
that
they
can
build
somewhere
else,
and
so
that
that's
the
concern
is
that
you're,
not
counting
this
portion.
It
gives
them
more
to
use
elsewhere.
N
They
wouldn't
be
using
it
today,
but
it
leaves
an
extra
in
this
case
extra
ninety
four
hundred
square
feet
of
density,
that
they
could
then
use
on
the
next
phase
or
in
a
future
redevelopment
and
that's
just
a
principle
for
any
exclusion
on
any
site
planned
project.
So
you
know
whether
it's
you
know
on
the
ground
floor
or
it's
you
know
partially
below
grade
or
it's
on
the
rooftop.
If
the
exclusion
is
granted
they're
just
going
to
build
that
amount
somewhere
else
and
then
so
then
you
have
the
concern
of.
N
A
D
A
D
Corridor
would
be
lit
and
and
heated
as
a
result
of
being
open
to
the
public.
This
would
be
you
know,
sprinkled
and
and
made
safe
and
heated
and
would
actually
have
to
be
heated
as
well
because
of
plumbing
that
runs
nearby
it.
So
if
you
didn't
heat
it
cold
and
froze
you'd,
have
pipes
bursting
and
conditioned
space.
Okay,.
I
N
No,
no
because
once
again,
this
is
all
within
the
site
plan
area.
So
through
the
way
this
site
plan
is,
is
configured
they're,
not
tripping
that
maximum
density
under
the
CEO
district.
So
there's
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
Delta
between
what
they're
proposing
now
and
what
the
bay
and
what
the
ceiling
is.
So
you
can't
grant
a
density
credit.
The
exclusion
would
just
leave
a
little
bit
more
that
they
could
use
elsewhere.
So
thank
you.
N
J
You
so
so,
given
the
explanation
we
just
heard-
and
thank
you
for
that.
That
was
extremely
clear,
given
that
under
the
sector
plan,
they
really
are
obligated
to
keep
the
underground
as
well,
given
the
fact
that
this
was
former
retail
space
granted,
it
wasn't
being
used
or
it
wasn't
able
to
be
rented
but
they're,
really,
basically
not
in
turning
into
storage
space.
They're,
not
finishing
you
know,
those
areas
are
refinishing.
Those
areas
and,
given
that
density
exclusions
go
directly
against,
you
know
count
against
or
diminish
the
amount
of
amenities.
J
M
Only
response
I
had
was
on
a
prior
item
related
to
the
use,
the
density
elsewhere.
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
any
use
of
density
requires
a
site
plan
and
is
gonna
require
county
board
action
and
public
review.
It's
not
as
though
we're
throwing
density
around
it
will
here.
The
other
thing
I'd
mention
is
is
just
that
there
needs
to
be.
If
we're
going
to
make
this
a
policy
going
forward,
I
think
we
ought
to
have
a
policy.
M
We
have
an
advice,
memo
that
merely
states
what
we
were
already
doing,
which
is
that
we
need
to
look
at
these
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
Until
we
have
a
policy,
we
need
to
rely
on
what
we've
got,
which
is
the
sector
plan
and
again
I.
Think
the
sector
plan
makes
very
clear
that
maintaining
these
underground
spaces
is
of
critical
importance.
M
D
Know
it's
it's
that
current
policy
guidance
that
has
driven
us
to
this
plan.
If
we
didn't
have
such
strong
policy
guidance
to
maintain
the
underground,
we
would
have
looked
at
different
retail
planning
depths
and
looked
at
effectively
shifting
the
area
you
see
in
blue
today.
If
we
didn't
have
to
preserve
some
of
those
corridors
and
if
we
were
able
to
do
that,
we
wouldn't
end
up
with
that
left
over
what
we're
calling
storage
space,
but
basically
the
leftover
empty
space,
and
we
wouldn't
be
here
talking
about
that
exclusion
at
all.
D
So
if
that
guidance
were
underground,
sidewalks
for
the
public
are
considered
density
and
we
didn't
have
to
preserve
that.
We
wouldn't
have
this
leftover
space
that
we're
talking
about
today.
So,
even
though
that
corridor
is
a
very
small
sliver
of
the
9,000
we're
talking
about
that,
9,000
exists
today,
because
of
all
of
the
planning
ramifications
that
have
happened
as
a
result
of
that
policy
guns
and
and
and
again
I
do
want
to
highlight
we're
talking
about
9,000
square
feet
here,
which
is
not
a
really
large
amount.
D
What
is
a
significant
amount
is
a
hundred
thousand
square
feet
of
underground
corridor
that
exists
throughout
Crystal
City
today
and
on
many
of
those
blocks,
you're
talking
about
significant
amounts
of
density
and
and
setting
a
policy
that
D
prioritizes
the
underground
and
treats
it
as
rentable
space,
even
though
it
is
public
amenity,
I
think
has
really
really
strong
ramifications
for
plans
that
would
come
forward
in
the
future.
If.
D
Think
that
our
preference
in
general
is
is
that
you
have
a
limited
amount
of
ability
to
focus
energy
in
any
given
place
and
being
able
to
concentrate
that
energy
in
key
areas
like
along
a
Crystal
Drive
is
a
real
strong
benefit
to
any
new
proposal
at
anytime.
You
end
up
with
sort
of
spiders
of
different
areas
that
require
energy
and
take
some
of
that
vibrancy
off
of
those
key
areas.
You
end
up
with
with
a
little
bit
of
a
weaker
plan,
so
I
think
that
were
not
for
that
guidance
of
the
sector
plan.
J
N
Is
no
policy,
the
policy
is
our
zoning
ordinance
in
the
way
in
which
the
zoning
ordinance
classifies.
What
gross
floor
area
is
I
just
want
to
reiterate
the
advice
from
the
Zoning
Administrator:
that's
that's,
not
new
policy
she's,
not
those
five
things
that
she
set
out.
Those
aren't
criteria
under
which
an
exclusion
can
be
granted
she's
merely
saying
here's
where
the
board
has
granted
exclusions
in
the
past.
The
key
element,
as
mr.
N
Whitmore
stated,
as
you
know,
will
look
at
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis
if
somebody
requests
it,
but
there
is
no
policy
because
we,
our
policy,
is
what
the
zoning
ordinance
says.
Gross
floor
area
is,
and
that's
and
that's
it
I,
don't
think
that
I
don't
know
if
we
need
a
new
policy
going
forward,
saying
you
know
what
you
know,
what
could
we
consider
as
an
exclusion
or
modification,
because
we're
gonna
evaluate
those
when
those
requests
come
forward
and
I?
Think
for
the
reasons
we
stated
tonight,
we
don't
support
the
request.
E
N
G
G
N
I
first
I
wonder:
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
this
and
I
just
want
to
preface
this
by
once
again
reiterating
that
staff
supports
the
application.
We
think
this
is
a
good
proposal.
We
think
that
this
is
a
good
way
to
treat
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
nobody,
especially
the
applicant,
thinks
that
in
any
way,
we
feel
that
this
is
an
inappropriate
application
in
terms
of.
A
N
To
this
specific
point
on
the
exclusions,
the
reasons
why
we
don't
support
it
is
because
it
conflicts
with
the
zoning
ordinance
and
because
the
areas
that
they're
asking
to
be
excluded
from
density
do
contribute
to
the
bulk
and
mass
of
the
building,
because
it
is
new
density
that
they're,
adding
to
this
structure.
They're
filling
in
that
portion
they're,
adding
this
grocery
store
because
they're
adding
the
grocery
store.
N
They
have
to
reconfigure
portions
of
the
underground
in
order
to
allow
for
that
new
feature
to
be
there
and
we
think
that's
great,
and
we
want
that
underground
to
remain
the
viability
of
it.
We
understand
that's
a
concern,
but
we
want
the
pedestrian
passageway
and
so
once
again
because
it
conflicts
with
the
zoning
ordinance.
We
do
not
support
that.
A
O
Though
those
other
sites
are
not
before
you
this
evening,
that
is
a
longer
you're.
Looking
beyond
I
hear
you
behind
this
and
I
strong,
encourage
you,
let's
focus
tonight
on
the
application
is
before
you
and
again
I
think
staffs
been
very
clear
on
what
we
believe
is.
The
policy,
particularly
from
the
zoning
ordinance,
is
so
central
to
this
argument.
Discussion
so.
A
N
If
the
exclusion
is
granted,
it
does
once
again
we're
not
true.
There
is
no
penalty
that
we're
trying
to
assess
on
future
blocks
that
the
underground
is
there,
but
once
again
we'll
evaluate
how
the
underground
is
handled
on
those
individual
blocks
at
a
future
date.
If
they're
coming
in
under
Co
crystal
city
density
is
not
relevant,
it's
form-based,
but
how
you
earn
the
density
is,
and
so
we'll
look
at
those
in
the
future.
N
But
once
again,
the
way
the
exclusion
has
been
presented
to
staff
here
with
this
particular
application
that
requests
to
redevelop
under
the
CEO
parameters
rather
than
the
CEO
crystal
city
parameters.
We
cannot
support
the
exclusion
albian
it's
a
de
minimis
amount,
but
it
does
contribute
to
the
elements
of
the
building
that
are
density
per
our
ordinance.
E
E
A
H
R
A
A
H
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
find
that
vacations
of
one
two
portions
of
the
easement
for
public
street
and
utilities
purposes
for
15th
Street
south
one
portion
located
on
the
northwest
corner
of
parcel
to
Crystal
Square
and
the
other
portion
located
on
the
northeast
corner
of
parcel
to
Crystal
Square
at
the
intersection
of
15th
Street
south
and
crystal
drive
to
the
portion
of
an
easement
for
public
street
and
utilities
purposes
running
east
to
west,
from
crystal
drive
through
parcel
to
Crystal
Square
to
parcel
one.
A
Crystal
Square
and
three.
H
H
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
the
county
board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
staff
report
dated
February
7th
2018
to
approve
the
subject
site
plan
amendment
to
construct
approximately
84
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
and
commercial
space,
with
modifications
to
the
required
parking
ratio,
parking
space
and
drive,
I'll
size
and
percentage
of
compact
parking
and
other
modifications
as
necessary.
To
achieve
the
proposed
development
plan
located
at
1550,
Crystal,
Drive
and
251
18th
Street,
south
and.
A
G
H
G
A
G
A
A
G
E
E
A
A
That's
not
a
good
thing,
because
we
we
deal
with
them
all
the
time
and
I
think
we
need
to
know
what
the
basis
the
form
basis
mister
Schreiber's
described
the
first.
The
thing
that
staff
looks
at
under
the
ordinance
is
the
the
form,
the
massing
and
there's
additional
massing.
That
isn't
what
I
had
understood
that
we
were
doing
and
that's
not
a
good
thing,
so
I
I
would
just
that's
why
I
abstained
because
I
don't
think
I
fully
understand
the
issue
after
that
extended
discussion.
G
That
I
believe
this
will
come
up
again
in
the
context
of
the
underground
and
the
redevelopment
of
Crystal
City
I
would
like
us,
somehow
suggest,
maybe
through
the
lrpc,
to
explore
this
further
and
get
some
guidance,
because
Crystal
City
is
unique
in
the
county.
The
underground
is
unique
in
the
county
and
what
the
exclusion
policy,
which
could
very
well
be
absolutely
appropriate
in
Rosslyn
and
the
Boston
corridor
and
other
places.
G
O
A
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
call
the
meeting
back
to
order.
We
have
our
business
meeting
tonight
and
sort
of
as
part
of
that,
but
prior
to
that,
I
did
want
to
ask
mr.
Duffy
to
provide
a
short
report
on
the
C
PhD
work
plan.
As
you
know,
the
board
and
the
manager
had
a
work
session
last
night
and
I
think
we
can
have
additional
information
from
what
was
gleaned
from
board
priorities
and
direction
after
mr.
Duffy
speaks.
A
There
will
be
some
public
speakers,
as
you
know,
I
just
want
to
also
add
and
preface
preference
as
a
preface
the
lrpc
reviewed,
the
C
PhD
work
plan.
Recently
you
have
Commissioner
yeah
Khomeini's
report
in
which
the
following
needs
issue
issues
were
were
raised.
One
of
them
is
to
update
older
plans,
particularly
the
Ballston
sector
plan.
I
I
did
want
to
raise
that
and
I
hope.
Mr.
Duffy
could
speak
to
that
tonight.
A
It
is
included
for
future
work
in
the
page
15
of
the
work
plan,
the
other
things
that
were
raised
just
very
briefly
in
the
lrpc
meeting,
or
the
additional
work
on
s3,
a
district
intern
concerning
height
and
placement
for
other
facilities.
Other
than
schools,
as
I
understood
it
r-27
zoning
was
discussed.
That
was
discussed
last
night
at
the
board
and
we
we
also
did
praise
the
you
Rd
staff
and
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
them
more
and
more
as
we
go
forward,
we've
really
benefited
from
their
their
input.
A
O
I
did
include
a
summary,
as
the
chair
described
it
as
work
future
work
program
items
and
when
you,
when
you
go
to
that
page
I,
believe,
what's
on
page
12
you'll
see
that
the
source
from
that
is
the
discussion
that
you
had
at
lrpc,
as
well
as
the
work
session
with
the
county
board
and
from
the
work
the
lrpc
did
on
the
five-year
review
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
there
are
many
important
items
that
are
teed
up
for
future
work.
O
So
last
night
I
had
the
opportunity,
with
our
senior
staff,
to
review
the
work
program
with
the
board.
As
you
know,
we
do
this
in
advance
of
the
board
receiving
the
county
managers
budget,
where
the
board
then
begins
to
consider
certainly
resources
and
basically
the
the
funding
necessary
to
to
for
the
department
and
the
Planning
Division
to
move
forward
with,
with
many
of
these
these
initiatives
or
projects,
the
reports
you
have
which
I
understand
the
clerk
gave
you
a
link
to
on
Friday
three
parts.
Just
very
briefly.
O
The
first
part
gives
you
a
good
overview
of
our
current
organization
of
our
staff.
We
have
a
number
of
vacancies,
as
you
can
see,
because
of
promotions
and
we're
actively
recruiting
and
filling
those
positions.
In
fact,
we've
just
added
a
new
associate
planner
this
week,
who's
going
to
be
working
on
the
childcare
initiative,
as
well
as
supporting
zoning
work,
we're
getting
very
close
to
retaining
a
new
zoning
coordinator.
O
But,
and
so
those
are
the
major
vacancies,
so
we're
getting
close
to
certainly
rebuilding
our
staff
and
that's
important
to
prepare
for
this
work
program.
One
thing
I
noted
last
night
is
some
detail
with
with
the
county
board.
Is
that
if
you
look
at
page
six
of
the
report
you
had
which
sort
of
a
functional
organizational
chart
for
the
division?
O
Historically,
we've
had
these
three
sections:
comprehensive
planning,
current
planning,
urban
design
and
research.
It's
imperative
that
we
do
everything
to
ensure
that
those
three
sections
can
collaborate
combine
their
efforts,
work
in
tandem
as
teams
across
those
sectional
lines
and
you've
seen
that
in
some
projects
very
recently
where
Chris
Kreider
his
staff
have
done
with
special
glup
studies.
We're
involved
now
with
the
block
study,
that's
underway
in
Crystal
City,
which
he
described.
O
So
it's
important
that
we
ensure
that
we
can
break
out
of
those
historic
sections
and
work
across
lines
and
that
our
staff
continue
to
have
the
opportunity
to
to
take
on
new
responsibilities
across
these
lines
as
well.
We
need
to
ensure
professional
development,
talent
management
across
those
and
we're
doing
I
think
a
very
good
job
of
that.
It's
it's
gonna
pay
off
so
a
little
bit
about
the
staff
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
the
the
comprehensive
planning
and
current
planning
in
urban
design
research
work
program.
O
I
could
summarize
it
but
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
touch
on
briefly
are
the
four
areas
that
the
county
board
focused
on
last
evening
and
and
I,
don't
think
we
talked
about
several
these
with
the
long
range
planning
committee
and
I.
Think
tonight,
you'll
hear
from
one
of
the
chairs
of
the
joint
facility
Advisory
Commission
about
the
critical
need
for
long-range
capital
and
community
facility
planning.
That's
certainly
been
a
priority
for
this
commission.
Certainly
it
was
defined
as
a
priority
in
your
five-year
review.
We
certainly
had
significant
discussion
about
that
last
evening.
O
The
new
public
facility
coordinator
position
will
about
to
hire.
Will
be
able
to
play
a
central
role
working
with
members
of
our
staff,
an
interdepartmental
team
over
time
to
ensure
that
we
proceed
with
that
I
can't
define
how
we're
going
to
proceed.
I
think
our
role
is
a
new
one,
since
January
of
supporting
J
fact,
the
manager
asked
us
to
take
that
mission
on
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
very
closely
with
the
co-chairs
and
certainly
with
J
fax.
O
So
the
board
had
some
discussion
about
the
importance
of
this
and
I
suspect
there'll,
be
more
discussion
and
you're
going
to
have
some
discussion
tonight.
I.
No
doubt
we
started
a
discussion,
I
think
at
the
lrpc
meeting
about
working
very
closely
with
with
the
zoning
committee
on
finding
a
way
that
we
can
address
potential
zoning
ordinance
amendments
and
Commission
and
county
board.
Member
guts
Shaw
referred
to
at
last
evening
as
the
low
overhead
items
and
and
those
items
relate
to
two
category,
as
you
can
describe
it
within
one
is
when
there's
clear
county
board
policy.
O
Let's
say
from
the
parking
study
residential
parking
study
that
the
ratios
that
we
want
to
strive
for
to
address
the
realities
of
transportation.
Mobility.
In
Arlington
and
we
have
to
amend
districts
like
the
RC
to
provide
some
flexibility
for
for
the
county
board
to
achieve
those
ratios.
The
second
falls
into
the
category
of
when
there
are
there's
legislation
at
the
state
level,
as
is
being
considered
now
for
telecommunications.
O
There
are
also
amendments
that
deal
with
correlating
the
building
code
in
the
zoning
code
related
to
Penn
House
uses
and
how
the
codes
relate
to
one
another.
So
these
two
categories,
policy
related
and
more
legislative
or
technical,
that
we
should
be
able
to
move
forward
working
with
zoko
in
a
in
a
in
a
in
a
more
timely
way
and
what
we
said
last
night
is
and
what
we
said
at
lrpc
that
we
want
to
begin
to
have
that
conversation
with
zoko
how
best
to
structure
that,
because
the
issues
aren't
with
drafting
the
code.
O
Some
of
these
are
very
straightforward
code
amendments.
It
sometimes
is
the
process,
and
we
want
to
be
sure
that
we
have
adequate
engagement,
but
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
move
forward
more
rapidly
with
some
of
these
and
the
board
seemed
an
agreement
that
that's
something
we
need
to
do
and
more
to
come,
and
the
commission
will
play
a
key
role
with
that.
A
large
part
of
our
work
program
2018,
is
implementing
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
and
that
deals
with
the
second
phase
of
the
housing
Conservation
District
and
incentives
preserve
affordable
units.
O
That's
also
an
implementation
measure,
so
we
can
certainly
focus
on
those
households
that
are
closer
to
the
Missal
missing
middle
120%
of
am
I
the
one
area,
that's
new
that
that
we've
discussed
and
it's
also
consistent
with
implementing
the
for
housing
master
plan.
These
non-conforming
duplex
units
in
certain
zoning
districts,
as
you
know,
they're
households
that
would
like
to
not
only
preserve
but
improve
those
units
to
add
additional
space.
O
O
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
enable
those
types
of
improvements
to
move
forward,
but
ensuring
sensitivity
to
the
surrounding
neighborhood
context
in
properties.
So
we
added
that
to
our
work
program
and
it
rounds
out
this
for
full
approach.
I
think
tip
lamenting
the
affordable
housing
master
plan
we'll
be
doing
a
lot
of
work
both
with
the
the
Housing
Commission,
as
well
as
the
the
Planning
Commission.
O
Is
we
undertake
that
that
is
a
high
priority
for
the
board,
as
they
express
last
night,
the
in
fact
they
would
like
us
to
if
we
can
to
break
that
into
pieces,
maybe
early
action
pieces
that
we
can
bring
forward.
So
it
could
be
a
major
item
for
us
in
in
the
in
the
work
program,
the
fourth
area
that
we
discussed-
and
this
is
clearly
associated
with
the
work
the
Commission
and
the
lrpc-
does
and
that's
the
special
glup
study
process.
O
As
you
know,
over
the
last
year,
we've
had
at
least
two
fairly
demanding
glup
studies,
Washington
Kirkwood
and,
to
some
degree
the
leaven
thin
Vermont
study,
which
you
heard
the
the
site
plan
on
Monday
evening.
Both
of
those
studies
involve
significant
commitments
of
staff
resources
and
and
to
develop
recommendations
for
the
Planning
Commission's
consideration.
The
board's
concerns
consistent
with
an
existing
policy.
O
We
think
there
are
two
things
that
we
need
to
look
hard
at:
the
cost
of
those
studies
and
the
fee
schedule
and
I
will
go
to
the
tails
of
it.
We've
done
a
fairly
significant
study
to
look
at
what
our
costs
were
in
both
of
those
efforts
and
to
should
we
break
this
consideration
of
the
scope
and
the
direction
and
how
we
proceed
with
special
glup
requests
into
one
or
more
than
one
phase.
O
We
need
to
revisit
that
I
think
with
the
lrpc
and
come
back
to
the
board,
with
some
recommendations
jointly
with
the
Commission
to
amend
that,
while
this
year
we
have
several
special
glup
studies,
there
are
three
of
them.
Two
of
them
are
in
progress
that
the
board
the
Commission
is
well
aware
of
and
and
I
know
we
have
representatives
from
the
Shirlington
Civic
Association
here
tonight
in
Shirlington
Village.
The
federally
investment
trust
has
asked
us
to
take
a
look
at
that
at
the
part
of
the
PD
sp.
O
That's
there
today
and
look
at
that
large
parking
lot,
and
that
will
be
an
important
study
when
we
undertake
that
it
will
probably
require
us
to
have
significant
resources
devoted
towards
it.
I
don't
think
we'll
get
to
that
till
till
much
later
this
year,
I
know
we're
going
to
be
talking
to
the
the
Shirlington
Civic
Association
about
it,
and
we
continue
to
have
discussions
with
federal
investment
trusts.
O
But
again
those
are
major
efforts
and
we
anticipate
we
may
see
one
or
two
other
special
glup
studies
this
year
and
their
significant
efforts,
certainly
for
the
for
the
Planning
Commission,
the
lrpc
as
well.
Those
were
the
four
areas
that
the
board
focused
on.
We
talked
to
also
talk
just
very
briefly
about
chair.
We
talked
about
completing
the
form
on
Valley
Initiative,
which
has
been
a
fairly
contentious
process
for
a
number
of
reasons,
but
we're
nearing
next
week
on
February
20th
major
milestone
a
review
with
the
County
Board
on
the
draft
policy
framework.
O
Lee
Highway
I'm
really
pleased
to
tell
you
that
yesterday,
actually
on
Monday,
we
released
the
request
for
a
proposal
to
begin
the
retention
that
the
the
recruitment
process
for
the
consultant
team.
That's
going
to
be
working
with
us
on
that
important
effort,
and
we
should
have
that
team
on
board
in
April,
we'll
be
going
back
to
the
county
board
with
the
charge
and
convening
the
the
committee
so
that
those
elements
come
together
later
this
spring
and
early
summer.
So
we're
going
to
kick
that
off,
so
really
an
important
milestone
that
were
underway
believe
highway.
O
Will
continue
in
beyond
2018
and
2019,
ultimately,
we're
going
to
have
to
in
19
2019
begin
to
focus
on
implementation
of
the
four
mile
run
valley,
effort
too,
but
we
did
not
include
that
in
our
work
program
this
year,
you'll
see
at
the
table
that
says
future
work,
program
items
so
again.
Four
key
areas
of
the
board
focused
on
the
highway,
a
major
initiative
for
us
and
completion
of
the
form,
outrun
valley,
planning
effort.
As
you
can
see
from
the
work
program
and
again
the
summary
that
we
included
on
pages
page
13.
O
We
once
again
have
a
very
ambitious
work
program
and
again
we
will
certainly
wait
to
see
how
our
budget
shapes
up
for
the
department
and
the
planning
division
when
the
county
manager
releases
that
a
week
from
tomorrow,
and
so
again,
thank
you
for
the
chance
to
give
you
the
overview
and
I'll
certainly
be
able
to
respond
to
questions
any
details
about
projects
going
forward.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you
very
much
chairman
Siegel,
chairman
Siegel,
is
that
and
commissioners
staff,
mr.
Duffy
and
and
others
present,
my
name
is
Edie
Wilson
and
I.
Am
the
president
of
the
Shirlington
Civic
Association,
the
aforementioned
by
mr.
Duffy
PD
SP
106,
which
is
the
request
from
Federal
Realty
investment
trusts
for
a
study.
A
special
go
up
study
is
why
I'm
here
and
I
have
a
brief
comment.
Q
Q
My
husband
and
I
renovated
a
condo
on
Campbell
that
was
built
in
the
second
phase
that
was
15
years
ago.
How
time
flies
it
needed
it
Shirlington
needs
it.
Properties
such
as
the
village
need
reinvestment
and
renewal,
and
that
we'd
like
to
call
back
to
the
attention
of
the
Commission
after
you
do
the
new
stuff.
You
need
to
have
a
program
for
going
back
and
looking
25
years
later,
to
keep
it
up
to
date.
Q
So
to
do
that,
you
need
committed
landlords,
we
are
very
happy
with
ours,
but
we
understand
that
the
landlord
needs
to
maximize
his
investment
and
generate
income.
If
we
want
reinvestment
and
renewal,
so
this
request
from
federal
reality
about
its
remaining
undeveloped
parcel
on
South
Arlington
Mill
Drive-
is
welcome
and
not
surprising.
The
only
word
I
can
use
to
describe
this
parcel
is
unprepossessing.
Q
We
have
absolute,
we
know
sentimental
attachment
to
it.
It
is
a
parking
lot.
We
assume
the
parking
will
be
replaced.
We
understand
we
have
to
have
a
conversation
about
density
and
probably
some
other
things,
and
we
look
forward
to
that.
But
the
only
way
to
describe
how
this
parcel
currently
looks
from
the
street
is
bad.
I
can
elaborate,
I
will
not.
It
is
late,
but
it's
time
to
get
it
done
all
right.
We
need
a
gateway
to
the
village.
We
think
this
could
be
really
nice.
Q
There
are
lots
of
things
it
could
be
done,
but
it
is
not
the
largest
project
in
your
portfolio
or
anyone,
elses
I'm,
not
sure
and
I,
look
forward
to
understanding
why
significant
resources
are
necessary
and
I'm
sure
they
are,
but
I'm
still
not
really
understanding
it.
We
are
not
at
this
point
eager
for
a
glup
review.
The
larger
village
of
Shirlington
area.
Q
So
I
have
a
meeting
soon
with
mr.
Davi
that
he
alluded
to
where
we
can
discuss
this
in
more
detail,
but
in
general
our
feeling
is:
let's
keep
it
simple
and
focused
I
agree
with
his
comments
last
night
and
tonight
that
these
processes
need
to
be
less
cumbersome,
less
costly
and
time-consuming.
Our
community
leadership
is
exhausted
after
two
years
of
Four
Mile
Run
planning
discussions.
Q
S
Evening,
my
name
is
Greg
Greeley
I
am
the
vice
chair
of
the
joint
facilities,
Advisory
Commission,
so
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
tonight
and
speak
to
chair
Segal
and
the
other
members
of
the
Commission.
As
many
of
you
probably
know.
Three
years
ago,
almost
to
this
day,
the
community
facilities
study
kicked
off
and
the
goal
there
was
to
recommend
improvements
to
how
we
do
decision-making
in
Arlington,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
major
community
challenges
around
growth.
S
One
of
those
recommendations
was
the
creation
of
the
J
FAC.
So
a
year
ago,
both
the
county
board
and
the
school
board
took
action.
They
created
the
J
fact
charge.
They
created
the
J
fact
and
part
of
our
charge
was
capital
needs,
assessments,
capital
improvement
plans
and
long-range
facility
planning.
We
were
encouraged
to
think
about
the
challenges
and
think
big
visionary
ways,
so
we
had
a
successful.
First
year
we
looked
at
the
buck
property
on
Quincy
Street.
S
We
looked
at
the
Virginia
hospital
properties,
particularly
on
the
one
on
Karlin
Springs
Road
and
had
some
you
know,
I
think
very
valuable
recommendations
for
our
boards
about
how
to
proceed
forward
with
those
properties.
We
also
looked
at
bus
parking,
not
the
most
exciting
thing
in
the
world,
but
what
got
out
to
the
community
some
key
elements
of
how
we
need
to
manage
our
bus
fleets
and
again
that
was
helpful
in
moving
the
ball
forward
on
what
we,
as
a
community,
are
doing
for
siting
bus
facilities.
S
We
also
worked
on
a
draft
of
the
charge
for
the
working
group
that
we
have
today
to
take
a
look
at
the
Arlington
Career
Center,
which
is
actually
one
of
our
most
valuable
pieces
of
our
Columbia
Pike
puzzle
that
is
on
the
table
today.
But
what
we
want
to
do
now
is
turn
to
our
principal
challenge,
which
is
the
long-range
planning.
S
In
fact,
our
one
of
our
newest
County
Board
members,
Eric
guts,
all
noted
that
it
is
time
to
build
a
consensus
for
a
long-range
plan
to
squeeze
the
most
out
of
our
valuable
land
that
we
have
here
in
Arlington.
Our
land
is
valuable,
our
dollars
are
scarce
and
we
do
need
countywide
solutions
about
how
our
schools,
our
fire
stations,
our
parks
and
all
of
these
things
will
fit
together.
You
know,
as
we
were
looking
at
the
preliminary
work
plan
for
the
planning
division.
S
We
were
initially
concerned
that
that
plan
didn't
show
resources
for
long-range
planning
when
it
came
to
J,
fax
work,
and
we
were
president
yesterday
at
the
work
session,
where
there's
lots
of
discussions
amongst
the
board
members
and
some
direction
about.
How
can
we
look
at
long-range
planning
and
J
FAC?
So
it's
well
time
that
we're
able
to
come
here
tonight.
You.
S
Those
questions
to
you
on
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
do
that
over
the
next
year.
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
have
some
resources,
so
we
can
define
and
scope
out.
What
can
we
do
for
long-range
planning
things
and
that
scope
might
include
preliminary
concepts
for
scopes
and
processes?
You
know
what
type
of
plan
should
it
be?
What
types
of
facilities
should
be
included?
What
are
the
objectives?
What
are
we
trying
to
do?
Are
we
using
the
land
more
efficiently?
S
How
do
we
change
the
use
over
time
interim
longer
term
the
tools
for
the
objectives?
What
kind
of
tools
could
we
use?
Are
these
conceptual
phase
development
plans?
Are
these
land
acquisition
policies?
Are
these
zoning
policies
cz?
There's
a
lot
of
questions
that
that,
without
actually
making
the
plan
itself,
we
can
help
move
the
ball
forward
by
defining
that
framework
in
which
we
would
be
doing
the
planning.
S
P
Good
evening,
good
evening,
good
evening,
chair
Siegel
and
members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
my
name
is
Stacy
Snyder
and
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
APS
Advisory
Council
on
facilities
and
capital
projects.
Our
role
as
a
committee
is
to
assist
the
school
board
in
the
continuous
systematic
review
of
school
facilities
and
the
annual
and
long-range
capital
improvement
program.
This
year.
We
are
not
only
advising
the
school
board
on
the
ten-year
CIP
which
comes
every
other
year,
but
we
are
also
advising
them
on
boundary
changes
the
new
elementary
school
at
Reid,
the
Career
Center.
P
We
are
currently
looking
working
on
a
report
that
outlines
what
our
future
facilities
needs
may
look
like
in
a
growing
school
system,
and
we
look
forward
to
any
coordination
with
the
J,
FAQ
and
long-range
planning
committee.
I'm
sure
it's
no
news
to
any
of
you
on
the
Planning
Commission
that
API
is
growing
and
is
projected
to
continue
to
grow.
P
Our
report
takes
a
broad
high-level
view
of
the
APS
system
as
a
whole
to
illustrate
what
our
future
facilities
needs
would
look
like
if
the
APS
system,
which
is
currently
around
27,000
students,
continues
to
grow
to
a
system
with
35,000
students,
37,000
500
students
and
40,000
students.
It
is
our
hope
that
this
report
will
define
the
potential
need
of
creating
new
seats
to
accommodate
enrollment
growth
and
act
as
a
catalyst
to
encourage
APS
staff,
County
staff
and
all
Arlington
residents
to
engage
in
the
important
discussion
of
finding
potential
solutions.
P
As
our
school
system
grows,
our
community
must
find
ways
to
address
our
enrollment
growth
within
our
Langton
counties,
limited
space
and
limited
budget.
As
a
community,
we
need
to
understand
the
impact
of
the
potential
student
enrollment
growth
and
begin
a
conversation
about
which
solutions
we
are
most
comfortable
with
and
how
the
needs
of
ApS
align
and
coordinate
with
the
needs
of
the
county.
We
hope
to
give
our
community
decision-makers
in
our
entire
Arlington
community
a
long-term
vision
to
assist
in
planning
to
identify
sites
or
other
ways
to
address
this
growth.
P
We
understand
that
the
solution
to
our
enrollment
growth
will
come
from
long
term
planning
and
probably
from
a
combination
of
capital
and
non-capital
solutions
that
are
reached
after
a
robust
and
thorough
conversation
with
the
community
about
our
priorities
and
options.
The
important
thing
is
to
is
to
begin
to
identify
potential
sites
and
to
understand
how
we,
as
a
community,
can
be
in
the
best
position
possible
to
make
informed
and
forward-thinking
position.
P
Our
forward-thinking
decisions
planning
for
sites
now
is
important,
regardless
of
whether
new
sites
are
ultimately
needed.
Planning
for
them
now
requires
minor
resources,
budget
and
time
and
kind
of
forward
thinking
planning,
whereas
not
planning
for
them
now,
in
the
event
that
they
are
needed
later,
will
require
additional
costs
and
most
likely
emergency
measures
that
are
not
very
popular
with
community.
We
believe
the
most
efficient
way
to
address
enrollment
growth
within
ApS
is
through
a
long-range
planning
process
that
is
collaborative
with
J
FAC
and
the
county.
A
J
Mike
Sweeney.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Well.
My
first
question
is
I.
Think
to
you
mr.
Duffy,
about
you
know.
We
heard
from
two
people
about
long
range
planning
from
the
J
FAC
and
also
from
ApS
FAC,
and
my
question
is
you
know
not
having
the
benefit,
unfortunately,
last
night
of
being
able
to
listen
to
the
meeting,
are
you
thinking
that
your
public
facilities
coordinator
is
going
to
be
the
person
who
fills
the
role
for
supporting
J
FAC
moving
forward
or
how
are
you
looking
to
to
help
with
the
long-range
planning
efforts
that.
O
Is
why
the
position
was
created
only
to
support
J
fact,
but
also
to
work
in
collaboration
with
the
public
facilities
review
committee
and
to
be
on
point
with
Arlington
public
schools
and
their
staff?
But
let
me
I
think
you
all
understand
that
it's
gonna
be
more
than
one
staff
member
who's
going
to
have
to
be
engaged
with
even
the
development
of
a
work
program
which
is
part
of
what
you'll
see
on
page
17
of
the
report
that
once
that
position
is
on
board
this
praying.
We
need
to
begin
to
work
on
how
we
proceed.
Mr.
O
Greeley
mentioned
a
number
of
strategies.
There
may
be
a
number
of
alternative
paths
and
selecting
the
right
one
for
Arlington
is
going
to
be
key,
so
we're
eager
to
begin
that
work
and
the
public
facilities
coordinator
is
going
to
play
here.
Oh,
but
she
or
he
is,
can
be
part
of
a
team
and
a
staff,
and
that's
going
to
be
the
important
I
think
again
and
I
encourage
you
to.
O
As
the
Commissioner
noted,
you
may
want
to
watch
that
segment
of
the
the
work
session
last
night
in
terms
of
more
discussion,
the
man
and
the
managers
discussion
and
but
we're
to
begin
on
this.
It's
vitally
important,
but
it's
going
to
take
more
than
one
position
to
work
through
successfully
on
this
anything.
J
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
I
did
want
to
also
thank
mr.
Greeley
and
Miss
Snyder
for
staying
so
late
to
give
us
the
benefit
of
their
planning
and
their
thoughts.
I
did
want
to
also
ask
a
question
that
Miss
Wilson
brought
up
and
that
is
related
to
the
glup
process.
You
did
indicate
that
if
I
heard
you
correctly,
it's
been
very
costly.
It
certainly
has
been
labor-intensive
I.
Think
for
the
processes
you've
come
forward.
You
know
she
indicates
that
perhaps
this
glup
process
might
our
glup
study
might
be
a
more
abbreviated.
O
So
how
do
we
plan
for
that
new
increment
of
density
and
what
the
implications
of
that
density
for
Shirlington,
no
question
that
we
should
find
a
path
forward
to
reinforce
one
of
the
one
of
the
great
urban
centers
of
Arlington
and
that
Shirlington
and
fill
in
that
gap.
That's
the
parking
lot,
so
it
will
reinforce.
O
You
know
really
one
of
Arlington's,
two
main
streets,
a
Arlington
Village,
so
we're
gonna
begin.
We
will
begin
later
this
year
to
develop
a
work
program
we'll
be
committed
to
that,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
maybe
adjust
how
we
approach
this
so
that
we
can
maybe
there's
some
decision-making
earlier
on
about
the
scope
and
and
the
overall
direction
that
we
may
take.
O
So
I
don't
want
to
get
into
that
too
much,
because
we
really
haven't
thought
it
through
and
I
think
we
need
to
think
it
through
the
long
range
planning
committee
as
well
and
so
we'll
be
doing
that
later
this
spring
and
but
again
it's
a
project
that
we've
got
in
our
work
program.
It
will
be
committed
to
begin
this
year
on
it.
Commissioners.
A
I
O
We
may
use
Shirlington,
maybe
as
a
model
or
a
way
to
demonstrate
what
an
option
is.
I,
don't
want
to
preclude
what
those
options
I
get
into
a
tonight,
I
think
but
I
think
that's
a
discussion
we
have
to
have
with
the
lrpc
again.
It's
certainly
not
the
same
type
of
study
as
the
Washington
in
Kirkwood
study
involving
all
those
well,
but
it
is
going
to
require
a
different
amount
of
effort
than
many
of
the
seven
or
eight
club
studies
that
were
done
immediately
following
the
adoption.
O
The
policy,
if
you
remember
some
of
those
studies
that
they
just
did
not
require
that
level
of
commitment.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
maintain
our
glove,
and
you
heard
someone
described
managing
growth.
That
glup
is
how
we
manage
growth
in
Arlington
County
and
the
Commission
plays
a
central
role
in
that.
So
we'll
need
to
work
together
to
look
at
the
process
and
if
there
is
an
alternative
way,
bring
that
forward
to
the
county
board.
I
Thank
you
for
that.
I
would
like
to
personally
have
some
discussion
about
how
we
do
this
kind
of
outside
of
the
context
of
a
actual
proposal.
Thinking
about
what
may
be
staff
is
thinking
about
what
those
buckets
are,
and
maybe
what
would
trigger
going
to
a
more
in-depth
review
and
what
would
be
less
than
that
and
what's
kind
of
in
the
middle,
but
trying
to
respect
you
know
neighborhoods.
That
may
not
want
to
be
guinea
pigs
for
a
new
process
and
what
I'd
like
to
have.
I
At
least
you
know
some
discussion
as
planning
commissioners
about
why
we
would
want
a
more
in-depth
line
and
had
that
conversation
with
staff
about
you
know
what
what
trigger
is,
what
and
and
so
when
we
don't
have
to
get
into
it
tonight.
Mr.
Guffey,
but
yeah
dialogue
interim
before
we
get
to
the
fall
or
winter
when
we
actually
kick
off
the
next
one,
which.
A
Else,
I
thought
could
just
make
three
short
comments
and,
while
we're
on
the
clock,
I
very
much
support
commissioners
Cheryl's
comment,
sometimes
it
feels
as
though
when
we
do
a
glove
study.
It's
because
there
is
a
an
application
for
a
site
plan
that
requires
change
in
the
club.
But
then,
when
we
do
the
club
study,
we're
asked
to
think
sort
of.
A
Theoretically,
as
if
that
plan
doesn't
exist,
and
then
we're
told
that
we
have
to
have
to
recommend
the
glup
study
and
the
glove
becomes
real
when
we
except
the
when
we
deal
with
the
site
plan,
so
it
it.
It
kind
of
confuses
me
and
I
think
the
idea
of
having
a
more
general
conversation
about
parameters
about
when
we
change
the
club
would
would
be
helpful
if
we
could
so
I
just
did
want
to
say
that
and
I
appreciate.
Your
comment.
A
I
also
do
want
to
really
applaud
you
for
the
the
way
in
which
you're
managing
staff
to
give
more
opportunities
to
staff.
It
increases
learning,
it
increases
interest
and
I
think.
In
the
end,
it
makes
the
staff
much
more
efficient
and
effective.
Having
worked
in
a
bureaucracy
for
25
years,
silos
really
are
deadening
and
they
they're
a
great
weight
on
the
ability
of
an
organization
to
be
nimble
and
effective.
So
I
really
do
applaud
that
and
wanted
to
shout
that
out.
I
also
do
want
to
say
I'm
I'm
very
happy
to
have
this
testimony
tonight.
A
We
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
site
plans
and
density
exclusions
and
and
very
technical
issues
like
that,
but
I
don't
want
us
to
lose
sight
of
larger
planning
issues
that
we
must
think
about,
because
we
need
to
respond
to
growth,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
have
had
the
conversation
here
tonight.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
A
I
You,
madam
chair,
we're
we
have
a
meeting
next
week
on
the
21st
on
Reed
School
will
be
held
at
Reed
school
at
7
o'clock
to
consider
the
transportation
issues
surrounding
the
site
and
then
the
next
day
the
22nd
we're
gonna
have
a
joint
meeting
with
Long
Branch
kind
of
planning
body
that
predated
pfr,
see.
That's
considering
has
been
considering
the
Aquatic
Center
for
a
number
of
years
and
we're
going
to
be
meeting
with
them
to
look
at
some
design
elements.
This
is
going
through
design-build,
which
is
a
different
process
than
kind
of
reading.
A
J
A
J
We've
had
a
couple
of
really
good
meetings
and
some
great
participation
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
you
know
to
a
few
things:
we
we
will
have
some
preliminary
sort
of
sighting
and
and
the
sighting
drawings
that
will
be
available
from
the
architects
at
the
end
of
February.
To
look
at
it's
really
about
where
we're
placing
things
you
know
where,
where
the
boxes
will
sit
and
we've
had
some
great
feedback
on.
J
You
know
the
programs
we've
had
terrific
presentations
and
we
have
two
more
meetings
in
February
or
two
meetings
in
February
coming
up
and
on
April
17th.
We
will
have
a
work
session
with
the
county
board
and
ApS
to
talk
about
where
we
are.
We
also
need
to
come
up
with
some
information
for
the
CIP
so
that
they
have
an
idea
of
what
this
may
cost
in
the
long
run.
J
It'll
be
a
very
round
number,
not
you
know,
since
we
aren't
doing
any
specific
design
of
any
building,
that's
really
what
be
LPC
and
P
FRC
do
so.
We
stopped
short
of
that,
but
we
will
have
a
preliminary
report
starting
to
take
some
shape
in
April
May,
and
you
certainly
will
by
then
we'll
have
some
sighting
principals
as
well.
Wonderful.
A
Thank
you
and
speaking
of
CIP
I'll,
be
attending
a
meeting
when
the
SI
PhD
work
plan
issues
come
on
concerning
budget.
So,
if
there's
any
input
that
you
have
any
any
particular
issue,
you'd
like
me
to
advance
and
explain
and
put
forward
to
the
group,
please
please
send
me
an
email
or
call
me
up
whatever
you'd
like
otherwise.
J
A
J
Staff
has
put
out
a
report.
It
is
available
on
the
county's
website.
Some
of
you
may
have
read
some
of
the
reaction
to
it
in
Arlington
now
and
in
maybe
other
venues,
but
we
are
coming
to
a
reporting
time
and
coming
to
Commission's
I.
Think
in
that
in
the
upcoming
months,
so
we
will
be
coming
before
probably
lrpc
first,
but
that
should
be
in
a
month
or
two
okay,.